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There are places in Britain where
no-one wants to see a house built -
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in our green belt perhaps,
in our National Parks,
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in the centres of our historic towns
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which are replete
with heritage sites
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and Roman archaeology.
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And then, there are those people
who are determined to build,
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who will fight even a 34-year
history of planning refusal.
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Who consider it their right,
their duty,
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to fight the system
and to break the deadlock.
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Surrounding one of Britain's most
historic cathedrals in Hertfordshire
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is some of the country's
most highly protected land.
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There's been no chance of building
on it for the past 30 years.
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But no-one reckoned
on golf-coach Chris.
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After a playing career,
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he went into business, running
and owning golf centres.
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He is a true sportsman,
trained to win.
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Winning I guess is always important.
It's pleasurable to win,
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you don't want to lose, I guess,
more than anything else.
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Chris met his future wife, Kayo,
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when she booked golf lessons
with him 20 years ago.
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She's also a sports champion,
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figure skating
for her home country, Japan.
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I am quite strong, I like to compete
and I like to win, I don't give in.
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They have three school-age children.
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Theirs an active, driven family
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who don't easily take "no"
for an answer.
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And their lives are about to be
uprooted.
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They live in this house,
in the shadow of the Abbey.
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The new building plot
they've bought is bang next door,
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on a strip of wasteland.
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This is your house there, is it?
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It is indeed. What a lovely
building.
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It's gorgeous and semi-rural -
what's wrong with this?
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Well, absolutely nothing really,
nothing wrong with the house,
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nothing at all wrong
with the positioning of it
other than unfortunately
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this particular site
was a huge problem for us
because there was massive
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antisocial behaviour going on
when we arrived -
lots of youths drinking,
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taking drugs, doing whatever.
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Was that because you're surrounded
by woodland and open space?
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Yes, because we're very close
to a main city centre
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and this was a hidden piece of
woodland and it was very easy
for kids to come in there,
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hide away from everybody.
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How many times did we call
the police?
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I don't know, 50 or 60 times?
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Seriously? Yep.
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The family home, in the dream
location, turned out
to be a nightmare.
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Chris and Kayo's solution was to
build a house on the plot next door.
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But that's easier said than done.
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It's on a scheduled
ancient monument site,
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so it needs the say-so
from Historic England
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and scrutiny from the planners.
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It is a very difficult site -
archaeology,
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location in relation to the abbey.
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If you were actually going to,
in planning policy terms,
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look at this site on a piece of
paper you would say
there's no chance of us
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actually putting something
positive.
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It didn't take Chris and Kayo long
to find out they'd bitten off much,
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much more than they could chew.
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It can't have been that easy,
the past few years.
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No, it was difficult for a long
time, you know, Chris' moods
up and down.
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Sometimes sending an application in,
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you never get the response for
months and months,
Chris gets frustrated.
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I think, you know,
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she probably knows my ambition -
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when I decide I want to do
something,
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then I don't like to stop
and back down,
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so I was determined to try
and sort out this problem.
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Chris put on his best sporting
armour and went into battle,
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and after six long years
of struggle,
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making endless alterations
and concessions to get it
through the planning process,
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a design was agreed.
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The shallow foundations give a clue
to the unusual zigzag shape of this
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house, following the slope's
contours and the lines
of previous archaeology trenches
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so as to respect the medieval
and Roman remains buried below.
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Meanwhile, the planners wanted to
see a single-storey building
here so as to
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preserve the sight lines
to and from the abbey
and construction would
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be in light, highly-insulated
timber cassettes
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to reduce the weight of the building
on the archaeology below.
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The glazed link between the two
wings will suggest a light
transparent
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centre to the house
that's almost not there.
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Cladding will be narrow
cinder-coloured bricks,
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with decorative coursing echoing
a 2,000-year-old Roman
wall-building style
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appropriate for this city.
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The brickwork flourishes will be
triangular-pierced screens almost
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redolent of ruined walls.
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The roof will be flat and punctured
by three large roof lights and a
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series of light tubes to brightly
illuminate the rooms.
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And it'll be covered in sedum,
another planning condition.
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The west wing will contain a series
of bedrooms - the master suite,
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a row of three almost monastic rooms
for the children,
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a spare room and at the end,
a family cinema room.
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Through the front door,
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you'll cross a tiny moat of water
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then turn left
along the glazed link to
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reach the living wing. You'll have
noticed there's no white emulsion
here.
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The house is built of wood
and lined with wood - maple,
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partly to suggest a traditional
house in Japan.
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Almost every fitting and piece of
furniture will be crafted
from yet more
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maple in the pursuit of
a single, ordered aesthetic.
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There are rooms too -
this house isn't open-plan -
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but highly organised into
compartments - sitting and dining
rooms and a kitchen.
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This design is rich in influences -
it's part Japanese transparency
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and lightness, part mediaeval
cloister and part Roman villa
in layout.
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And nowhere are you far from a
relationship with the natural,
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organic world, which of course
for Chris,
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means there has to be a putting
green in his garden.
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The layout of this highly unusual
house is already carved
into the ground.
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You have to remember that although
this building is not vast
in volume,
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its footprint is large on the ground
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because it's a bungalow - it's a
single-storey building.
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So the
living wing here, for example,
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the foundations are in for that.
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Then there's the extra foundations
here for the link
between that wing and
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the bedroom wing over here.
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And although these don't look very
precise, these foundations,
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because they're so big and so long,
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if they are only a few degrees out,
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that means the building itself
then won't fit on to the footings.
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What's really bizarre is the
foundations for this, look,
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this is where the bedrooms
kind of crank out,
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and look what the concrete does.
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It's bizarre. It's like following a
crazy golf course.
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Where's the windmill?
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I'm really not sure what I make
of this highly-detailed,
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very crafted design - it's not
fashionable, thank goodness.
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But it's not my house,
it's Chris and Kayo's.
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Do you like it much? Do you like the
design? It's unusual, isn't it?
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You know, I think I could probably
tell you that in a few months' time.
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So you're not sure? I got a kind of
Eureka moment when we got the
planning
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permission, and then I kind of asked
myself - do I definitely want
to live
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in this house, and my architect had
to sit me down and kind of start
all over again.
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His passion, his enthusiasm,
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his vision I think convinced me that
this was really worth building and
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maybe even worth living in.
Now hang on, he's the architect,
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you're the client, it's
not the other way round,
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I mean, surely you feel some passion
for this, some kind of excitement,
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some kind of vision?
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I think, you know,
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when you win a battle,
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sometimes there needs to be a kind
of period of time
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when you gather your thoughts
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and I'm still probably in that mode.
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Gathering? Yeah.
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I wasn't expecting that.
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Chris is just gathering his thoughts
about a house he's commissioned.
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And we're not talking
small change here,
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this is an expensive part of the
country so the plot wouldn't have
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been a cheap investment.
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Certainly five, five zeros and more.
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I can't remember you know,
I'm not very good with zeros.
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I suggest it's six -
it's got to be well into six?
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It may be, I can't remember.
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And how much is it going to cost you
to put the building on it?
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Well, we started off with a budget
of 600 but it seems to be going up.
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And when do you hope to finish?
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Oh, soon.
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A year. A year and a half.
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18 months, sounds good.
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So, all in all they'll take 18
months or longer
to build a house for
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between one and a half and two
million pounds, I reckon,
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a house which I'm not sure
they even like.
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This highly unusual project has been
designed by Rogan Gale-Brown.
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He's worked with Chris
for over 20 years,
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designing his golf centres
and house extensions.
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This house is something
of a passion project.
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I'm actually doing this as part
of a long-term vision of mine,
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and hopefully it will have something
to say to young architects about
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thinking about architecture
rather than just drawing
white square lines on
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paper and just plugging glass in
which, you know, I
just don't believe in.
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This is a designer who knows his own
mind, that's clear.
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I've got a few questions for Rogan.
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Chris has been very happy
to be led on this project by you.
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Well, yes he has.
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He really didn't know in the
beginning what he was going to get,
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he took a leap of faith,
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and I hope that by now he's
appreciated what we are
trying to do for him -
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that it's unlocked his vision
of what he'd like to see.
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I'm absolutely admiring of your
clients here in handing
you this gorgeous
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and beautiful responsibility of,
you know, kind of leading them,
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taking them on this journey but of
course there is always the risk
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that in the end they will turn round
to you and say,
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"Hang on, we've seen the models.
We don't like it!
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"This is not our house,
it's yours, Rogan."
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It sounds a bit egotistical to say
it, but I think that I've been
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deeply into their psyche,
I know what they feel,
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I know that Kayo doesn't
like things lying around,
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that she likes everything in
cupboards and I know
that they don't like
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endless open space.
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This is trust of the highest order.
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There are a lot of opinions
going on here.
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But very little from the
clients, Chris and Kayo.
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Now then, there's a question
of ownership here
because it's almost as
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though the architect is half
expecting to move into this house
when it's finished.
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Oh, and then there's English
Heritage, of course, who have wanted
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to design the thing from scratch
from the word go,
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the local authority who have taken
an interest, oh,
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and there's of course Chris and
Kayo, the people who are paying
for it,
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you know, for whom the project is
almost a by-product,
really, of a separate
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process of trying to figure out what
to do with this site -
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I mean, whose house is it?
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It takes nearly seven months
to complete
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the crazy golf concrete footings
that step up and down the site,
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which is now ready for
the next phase -
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the highly-insulated timber frame
which is being manufactured off-site
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as ready-made wall, floor
and ceiling panels, or cassettes,
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every one of which is
a different size and shape.
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And today is project manager Steve's
personal moment of truth.
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Will the 786 cassettes fit
his complicated foundations?
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I'm confident
what I've done's right.
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I wasn't confident it fit
cos I didn't have any control over
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making these cassettes, but I don't
think a computer can be wrong -
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it's what you put into it.
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At last, Steve is no longer alone.
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There's a new team on site,
and work's accelerating.
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The main issue of today
was getting the vehicles in.
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It's quite a tight site,
so bit of a hoo-hah there,
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but we got in, got out.
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No damage, all the trees
are still there, so...good.
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This single-storey house has
a very large footprint
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of 557 square metres -
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nearly six times
your average family home -
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sprawling over this sloping site.
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Size isn't the only problem, though.
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Normally, a timber frame like this
would drop neatly onto a flat slab,
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everything in line and square.
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There you go, that's how
an ordinary house is laid out -
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one, two, three, four little rooms.
Very straightforward, isn't it?
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That's not what they've done here,
though,
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cos the watchword for this project
is "complicated".
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So in order to follow
the slope of the hill,
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what Rogan's done in each of
these two wings is not only angle
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the rooms, but also step them so
that across the site
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you step up from one room to
the next, one room to the next
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through the building, and as a
result of that, at the far end
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at the top there, it's a metre above
ground level at this end.
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So what does that mean?
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It means that from the setting out
of the groundworks, and the slab,
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and to the walls, to the roof,
to the glazing -
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every part of the building
is different to every other part.
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Enormously complicated.
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No, you haven't got a plinth there.
You've got a plinth going across
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the back there, and you've got
a plinth going across here.
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Once they get their heads
round the plans,
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the team bolt the walls
to the floor plates.
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Each of these floor decks
have got solid timbers,
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so we can screw through the base of
the panel into the solid timber,
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which holds it down.
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One of the benefits of this type
of construction should be speed.
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Timber frame wise, if we were
to get a clear run at it,
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we'd be looking at sort of
a five-week programme,
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a five-, six-week programme.
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Five weeks would be a long schedule
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for a normal timber,
cassette-frame house.
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Everything about this project
is lengthy.
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But while Steve and the timber
company get on with their job,
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Chris has time to get back
onto the golf course - with me.
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Boy, oh, boy.
This is not my natural habitat.
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I feel a bit like
a fish out of water.
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Chris is a proper sportsman -
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he keeps his cards
very close to his chest.
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Maybe he'll open up here
in his comfort zone.
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That's a super shot!
Where did it go?
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GLASS SMASHES
Straight in the greenkeeper's shed.
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Oh, man! Very well struck, though.
Sorry!
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This is going rather well.
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Time to ask the hard questions.
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What does he really think
about Rogan's design?
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It's very different to anything
you've lived in before, isn't it?
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When we started the project,
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it was Rogan's baby in terms
of the style of the house,
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something that fitted the site
and pleased the planners
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and English Heritage
and everybody else.
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I think it is going to be different
from where we've ever lived before,
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and I'm kind of embracing that.
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I think it's a rare opportunity
to live in a house
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that is really extremely unusual.
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Back at Chris and Kayo's
current home,
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I have a chance to see for myself
just exactly what their usual is.
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Hello. Hello. Can I come in?
Please come in.
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I'll take my shoes off here.
Yes, please, it's Japanese style.
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That's good. No, I approve of it,
cos it keeps the house clean.
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We always ask people
to take their shoes off.
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How oriental, then, is your house?
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Cos you grew up in Tokyo,
didn't you?
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Yes, because I grew up in Tokyo,
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my parents' house never had tatami
mats, and more and more...
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So it was more western?
More western.
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So you're quite westernised,
then, in your tastes
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and in the way that you like
to furnish... Yes. ..the home.
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This is classic family living -
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comfortable, likeable
and unsurprising.
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Definitely sociable.
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There's a table and chairs... Yes.
..there's a table and chairs... Yes!
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..there's a table and chairs
and in your kitchen,
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you've got seating
for eating as well.
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So, quite clearly,
that's important to you.
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Yes, we like to sit down and eat.
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If it's nice weather,
we sit outside.
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Oh, my goodness me,
what a tidy kitchen!
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You don't like clutter, do you?
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No, I like plenty of cupboards
so I can put everything away. Yeah.
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Can I have a look inside
your cupboards? No. Top Secret.
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Really? How tidy...?
You are quite tidy.
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Seriously, I mean, look,
there's nothing on that worktop.
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I mean, there should be a toaster
or a kettle or something.
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They're all in the utility room.
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Can we go and look at that? No. Oh.
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Because British people,
they probably only have a kettle
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and a toaster, but I have to
have bread maker, rice cooker,
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toaster and fish roaster... Yes.
..so I have all different gadgets.
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In the utility room?
Yes, for different cooking.
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So when you cook a specific meal,
you'll bring...
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One comes out, and goes back in.
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To the utility room? Yes.
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So importantly, in
the new kitchen... Yes?
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..will there be somewhere
to put the rice cooker?
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Yes, I have an extremely large
utility room.
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KEVIN CHUCKLES
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I'm now convinced that,
were it not for Rogan,
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Chris and Kayo would be building a
house that might look quite similar
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to the one they live in
at the moment.
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And I wouldn't blame them,
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because their new house would, I
think, challenge anyone's judgment.
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Here's the thing - this design
really isn't to my taste.
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But that doesn't matter,
because taste changes,
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taste is unreliable.
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Whereas quality -
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the quality of design, the quality
of execution of something,
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how well it is thought about
and put together -
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that...that's a sort of a constant,
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that is something that we can all
instinctively recognise.
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So I'm looking forward to
the quality of this project,
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and all I can do is exalt you to put
your taste to one side
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and prepare yourself to admire
this house.
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After two weeks of painstaking
cassette assembly,
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the house is starting to take shape.
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And then the inevitable happens.
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But this wall is like
top-to-bottom glass.
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How are you going to close this
glass in the evening,
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if you're having a bath
in the evening?
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After months of standing
on the sidelines,
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Chris and Kayo make a sudden move.
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They want changes,
starting with their bedroom.
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We noticed that, as we entered
the room, the wall which actually
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formed the bathroom was directly in
the way of the whole of the room,
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so you saw nothing other
than the hallway and this wall.
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I mean, right here, the wall came
all the way across to here,
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so literally the wall was just here
in fact, and you can see how close
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that is to the chimney itself.
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And we felt that compromised
such a beautiful feature,
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as well as blocking the view
as you walked into the room.
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A second alteration they want
to Rogan's design is
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to change the cinema room into a
large bedroom overlooking the abbey.
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I think we've kind of put
our thoughts into it now
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rather than just follow
the drawings.
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It's our own little mark on
what is Rogan's masterplan.
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The site has to wait for
new engineering drawings
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to make the Chris and Kayo changes,
so everything stops for a month,
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adding several thousand pounds
to the budget.
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When the construction team get back,
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they find the project manager,
Steve, is missing.
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We've turned up on site today,
and Steve's not here.
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I'm not sure if he's coming back,
or if he's gone to another project,
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but sort of bit in the dark
ourselves at the moment, so...
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It was a bit unexpected,
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but we know what we're doing, timber
frame wise,
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so it shouldn't affect us massively,
so we shall proceed.
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Onwards and upwards.
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Chris has made a big decision
about Steve.
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There was a time when I almost felt
like there really wasn't enough for
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him to be doing, so I guess I felt
that the time had come when maybe
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I needed to probably play
a closer role.
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It is my house,
at the end of the day.
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Chris has decided to project manage
this build himself.
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This is dangerous territory.
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Chris has never managed anything
on this scale before.
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They're now one year into the
18-month schedule, and it's already
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costing more and taking longer
than Chris had planned for.
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As a businessman, that's what
I always have to ask myself -
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is this value for money,
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does it represent a good investment,
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and am I going to be happy
living here?
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But this isn't just an investment -
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it's their new family home,
isn't it?
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And to make matters worse, he has
Rogan's complex design to handle.
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Yeah, this is his canvas,
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and I'm the kind of protector
of that, I guess.
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And I've got to ensure that I try
and really kind of do him justice,
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and I hope I do at the end,
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and I hope that we enjoy this
as a family home.
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But I'm sure I will.
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Chris is treating this project
as a business proposition,
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where the profit and loss and
balance sheet value will somehow
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eventually be measured
in family happiness.
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And like all business propositions,
it is a gamble.
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Towards the end of 2014,
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the timber frame of Chris and Kayo's
house
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is finally completed and the
brick cladding is underway.
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Like everything else in this house,
it's beautiful and complicated.
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I've never built one of these
feature walls.
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I've done sort of,
other brickwork,
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but never anything like this.
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I mean, hats off to the architect
for designing it.
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19,700 and something,
probably 80-something bricks.
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There'll be a light behind them and
plants growing up them.
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Unusual, very unusual.
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00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,079
Organic architecture.
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That's what I've been told, anyway.
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Now there's two people who
understand this house -
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Rogan, and the master bricklayer.
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Lots of complicated shapes
and troughs and planters.
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Levels and steps and brickwork
and triangles.
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My goodness me, Rogan is not a man
who is afraid of triangles.
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This is a very, very strongly shaped
building and really powerful.
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And it does bear the stamp of its
designer.
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What I can't see, yet,
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is the mark of Chris.
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This house has its own fabulous
character,
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and I'm starting to understand it,
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and EVEN like it.
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It's a building that wants a place
in architectural history,
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that might even, as Rogan hopes,
move it on.
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Settle down, class, because we're
going to look at some slides.
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Look at those shapes, look at those
strong triangular forms,
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that perforated brickwork, you know?
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I think that, actually, the
tradition that this house fits into
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is primarily 20th century,
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in the works of people
like Stromberg.
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This is one of his houses which has
deep overhangs,
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a big projecting roof, casting deep
shadows over the building.
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00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,799
And here's another house which could
almost be by Rogan,
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it's actually by Frank Lloyd Wright,
dating from the 1930s.
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Again, lots of glass, overhangs and
planters,
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loads of places within the
architecture to put foliage.
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And like Chris and Kayo's house,
this building by Frank Lloyd Wright,
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the Kentuck Knob house, uses
triangles, big projecting angles,
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overhangs and hexagons -
perforations in the roof structure,
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just like at Chris and Kayo's house.
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You know, I think this is
Frank Lloyd Wright
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at his most sophisticated, at his
most beautifully crafted.
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It's the point in his career where
he is most inspired by Rogan.
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Rogan is clearly trying to build
a fine distinctive
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piece of architecture here.
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But is that the same
thing as a family house
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Chris and Kayo will love and enjoy?
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There's a particular brand of
mid-century kind of brick house
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that this building speaks of,
448
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,479
and it's pretty uncompromising,
449
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,480
and it's not going to be to
everybody's liking, but...
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..it is to mine.
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There are some days when I walk
through it,
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and I think actually I do,
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this is really beginning to be
something I do like,
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but I am somebody probably quite
tight with my emotions
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and I don't let myself kind
of get too far ahead.
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I think...
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..in golf we always say, you know,
take one hole at a time.
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You'd have to ask me at the end
whether I love it or hate it,
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but I hope I love it.
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So Chris still isn't sure he likes
the house.
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Blimey.
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However, he is resolutely faithful
to Rogan.
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And there's a lot to either love or
hate,
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00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,559
because Rogan isn't just designing
the house,
465
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,719
he's designed the entire interior as
well,
466
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,239
right down to the very last detail.
467
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,240
He's even designing the lampshades.
468
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,280
Any other designer would select
something that was ready-made.
469
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,079
You've designed and made here a
prototype
470
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,279
and this is going to be completely
bespoke throughout the building.
471
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,079
And this is because...
472
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,399
It ties in with what we're doing
with the furniture
473
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,119
and it performs its function
specifically,
474
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,119
it's not something which you can
say,
475
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,959
"Well, I'm going to choose some
general fitting,
476
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,799
"it doesn't really matter. It
more or less fits into the scheme."
477
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,800
So for you, the landscape, right
down to the smallest component,
478
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,399
if you can design it, you will.
479
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,599
I will.
480
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,559
It's much, much, more effort to
design,
481
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,719
build and install than to buy
fixtures,
482
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,799
fittings and furniture off the peg.
483
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,239
I have no idea how long it will take
to achieve the level of detail
484
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,159
Rogan wants and I don't think Chris
knows either.
485
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,599
Yeah, obviously, you know, more man
hours,
486
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,959
no more materials, but more man
hours for sure.
487
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,119
Yeah, I think there is an increase
in cost,
488
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,759
there's no question of that,
489
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,760
but, again, you know, hopefully,
it's justified in the end product.
490
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,079
One thing has remained constant,
though,
491
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,959
Rogan's remarkable and
rare relationship
492
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,359
with his client, Chris.
493
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,559
As the architectural experience has
been open to him,
494
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,279
you know, he's suddenly beginning to
click,
495
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,679
and, frankly, he's doing things
that I didn't expect him to do.
496
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,919
I didn't think he would build the
furniture in
497
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,119
and all the fittings and so on.
498
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,399
I think, if I'm really honest,
499
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,639
I'm probably allowing him to do what
he wants to do.
500
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,159
Yeah, he's come so far with this,
501
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,959
and he's lived and breathed it,
502
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,679
and I'm indebted to him, you know,
if I'm honest.
503
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,959
He feels everything about this
building,
504
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,159
if he comes in and we've done
something slightly different
505
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,119
to what he suggested, you know, I
can see it breaks his heart.
506
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,319
And you know, how many people are
there in this world,
507
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,320
that really care that much?
508
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,359
Chris gets his house watertight
509
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,679
courtesy of a joinery firm from
Slovakia
510
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,959
who make, deliver and fit the
floor-to-ceiling windows
511
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,960
around the whole horseshoe-shaped
courtyard.
512
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,439
There seem to be no lengths Chris
and Kayo won't go to
513
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,440
in order to satisfy the Rogan brief,
at a price they can afford,
514
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,919
so they journey to the high
Tatra Mountains in Slovakia
515
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,639
to oversee all the bespoke furniture
and fittings.
516
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,879
There is four of them.
517
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,639
See all these shadow lines,
518
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,559
they match the ones on the ceiling.
519
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,799
We won't see them. That's a shame.
520
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,959
That one, as well, will be white so
it can reflect the light.
521
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,919
Oh, my God. I think maybe leave them
natural, you know.
522
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Nice, gliding drawers.
523
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,879
This is the part which will come
out.
524
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,199
I see. That will be your dressing
part
525
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,679
and then you can open any door,
open any holder.
526
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,079
So that's my dressing table, is it?
527
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,080
Have we started
the utility room yet?
528
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,639
Originally, when we saw on the
drawings,
529
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,640
and now, actually, if you see in the
3D, the actual pieces,
530
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,640
and very precise and handcrafted,
it's very impressive.
531
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,079
All those hundreds of Rogan drawings
are becoming the furniture
532
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,359
they will live with.
533
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,999
There have been times
when you think, "Oh, my God.
534
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,039
"Are we heading in the right
direction, here?"
535
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,679
But he's always said to me,
536
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,680
"Chris, just go with me on this."
537
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,599
Back in the UK,
538
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,399
the third Christmas comes and goes,
539
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,400
and the house is still not ready to
move into.
540
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,120
You know, I was just thinking that I
was last here nearly a year ago.
541
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,280
Blimey. Talk about
The Lost Weekend...
542
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,199
..this was The Lost Year.
543
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,679
Lost to detail.
544
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,839
All those maple walls and ceilings,
545
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,079
not to mention all the handmade
maple furniture,
546
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,399
are a slow labour of love.
547
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,119
It's taking longer than we were
expecting,
548
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,519
we have to keep attention to the
details.
549
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,520
But details make it perfect.
550
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,719
When do you expect to move in?
551
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,439
Definitely some time in 2016.
552
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,119
Well, that would be a relief.
553
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,399
I mean, most people, me included,
554
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,119
standing here looking at
the building in the current state
555
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,959
might say...
556
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,399
Eight weeks.
Six to eight weeks.
557
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,799
It's a possibility.
558
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,479
But I think it might
be longer than that.
559
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,479
Well, we haven't even ordered the
kitchen, yet.
560
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,879
We haven't ordered a
lot of things, actually,
561
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,239
which we simply can't afford.
562
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,239
I have a particular style that I
want for the kitchen.
563
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,799
I don't want a cheap kitchen
to be fitted
564
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,119
just because we want to move in
here,
565
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,599
I'd rather wait than rush into it.
566
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,879
The most exciting thing from our
point of view, as well,
567
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,239
is maybe bringing some things over
from Japan.
568
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,159
You know, again, we've been talking
to Rogan about that,
569
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,279
as to what may or may not fit in
with the house.
570
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,919
I mean, it does sound
like a kind of, you know,
571
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,279
three's company kind of
thing in this situation,
572
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,999
but it's, I mean, maybe Rogan is
going to move into one of the rooms,
573
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,359
I'm not sure.
574
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,039
You know, with you guys, he's going
to be hanging the last picture,
575
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,359
the last plant in its
pot, making sure that it's growing,
576
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,360
and only then will he pull back.
He's part of the family.
577
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,759
Delivering the finish to Rogan's
precise instructions
578
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,760
takes the whole of the rest of 2016.
579
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,879
The family hasn't moved in, but the
furniture arrives.
580
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,880
Yes! There she goes.
581
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,359
Ah! Ah!
582
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,399
Happy ever after!
583
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,439
But all this time and all these
details
584
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,159
have taken their toll on
Chris's bank balance.
585
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,079
Yeah, we just had to slow it down
586
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,999
because we didn't have any money to
pay anybody.
587
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,399
We didn't have any choice. It was as
simple as that, really.
588
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,400
We had to be practical, we had to
wait until we could afford things,
589
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,560
so we decided that time was our
friend rather than our enemy.
590
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,839
All this time, all this money,
591
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,919
yet Chris and Kayo don't seem
downhearted,
592
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,199
if anything, they're more upbeat
than I've seen them before.
593
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,159
So, after four years in the
making,
594
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,279
seven years in the planning and
designing,
595
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,319
and, let's face it, 20 years of
building up the relationship
596
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,320
between designer and client...
597
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Am I right in thinking
598
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:33,240
that Chris and Kayo are just
beginning to enjoy this place,
599
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:40,000
that they actually do like it?
600
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,719
This really is a special place.
601
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:57,239
But have we got the exceptional
piece of architecture this location
602
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:01,240
deserves? After a very
tricky four-year project,
603
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,239
I think Chris and Kayo
have at last moved in.
604
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,599
But is it the home they want?
605
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,119
Wow.
606
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,120
What a house!
607
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,480
Outside, at least, the house
appears rooted and bedded,
608
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,639
almost anchored to its site,
609
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640
with vegetation and
all that robust brickwork.
610
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,319
Hello! Hi, Kevin, how are you?
Hello.
611
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,719
Very well, how are you?
612
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,599
I'm very well.
I'm not claiming anything.
613
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,679
I'm not claiming any
territory with this flag!
614
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,759
I see you've come well-equipped.
KEVIN LAUGHS
615
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,559
Welcome. How are you, Kayo?
Nice to see you.
616
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,560
And you, and you. But it looks very
beautifully finished, I mean,
617
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,159
highly detailed,
plants and everything.
618
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,160
Thank you. So is it all really done?
619
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,119
Almost. Almost.
620
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,959
KEVIN LAUGHS
621
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,559
Yeah, this house will never be done.
622
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,560
Obviously the planting really is the
thing that... Yeah. ..is taking time
623
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,199
and we always anticipated that.
624
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,200
It's taken over ten long years to
get this house up and finished
625
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,639
but it's well worth the wait.
626
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,279
Surrounded by these
majestic, giant trees,
627
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,280
this extraordinary-shaped house
is almost lost in the green.
628
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,799
But that's what the guardians
of this precious plot insisted on.
629
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,959
It could've been
a bureaucratic mess.
630
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,279
It isn't.
631
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,119
I'm genuinely looking forward to
seeing the inside of this house.
632
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Uh-huh. ..experiencing it.
Come inside. Come in.
633
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,599
Shall I take the flag?
Well, I thought you could leave it
634
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,600
at the front door, and then
it tells people that you're in.
635
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,599
Oh, my word.
636
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,039
Oh, this is...already remarkable.
637
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Thank you.
638
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,639
Inside, it's breathtaking.
639
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,640
The light is so soft you can
almost touch it, taste it.
640
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Every surface glows and is pristine.
641
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,479
I'm quite overwhelmed
by all of this.
642
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,119
The reflections of mirror and light
643
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,120
and transparency and timber,
I mean, this is veneered.
644
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,720
It is veneered. It's like walking
into a Japanese timber-post house.
645
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,320
Yes. And so exquisitely finished.
646
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,520
The long promenade - it's too wide
to be a corridor - theatrically
647
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,120
sets up your arrival at
the main event.
648
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,160
Pulls you all the way down
into this room.
649
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,039
And the main event is,
no doubt about it,
650
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,040
the vision of organically inspired
geometric craftsmanship that Rogan
651
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,519
promised. It hits you
between the eyes.
652
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,520
And all this maple - the floor, the
furniture, the lights, the windows,
653
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,440
the ceiling, the shelving -
this is all - table, sofa -
654
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,719
is maple. Is that right? All maple.
655
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,159
So that's Rogan's choice
yeah, maple? Yes.
656
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,599
A maple building.
657
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,159
So do you like it?
658
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Do you, I mean, so much of the one
thing, do you enjoy that?
659
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,519
Yes. Yes.
660
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,520
I think, like a Frank Lloyd Wright
house, it is an homogenous thing.
661
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,879
Everything kind of works together,
662
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,959
so I think it would be a great
tragedy if you kind of ripped this
663
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,439
maple out and put a white ceiling
in, I think that would really
664
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,959
be horrible and
be very sad actually.
665
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,399
These lights, right, I thought...
666
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,479
I thought these were going
to be just too much,
667
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,559
I drew the line at that,
I thought just for heaven's sakes
668
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,759
go out and buy something,
cos this is
669
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,359
expensive to make and do,
670
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,399
and I don't want to...
Oh, it does, it does, it does move.
671
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,039
Yeah. Fantastic.
672
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,439
They're actually brilliant.
673
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,439
You know, once upon a time I think
you said that I was a patron of
674
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Rogan and I think
you were basically right,
675
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,439
I think because I love the guy
and I believe in him.
676
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,359
And you've worked with him
for 20-odd years.
677
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,479
And I've worked with him for
20-odd years, you know,
678
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,039
this was a project I was
prepared to share with him
679
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,040
and I'm not disappointed I did.
680
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,359
We automatically follow
Rogan's pre-determined route
681
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,959
around the house.
682
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,119
Next stop, the dining room.
683
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,120
Also in maple, of course.
684
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,040
The last room to be
completed was the kitchen.
685
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,039
So how are your cupboards?
686
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,679
No. No.
687
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,239
As always, you cannot
look inside the cupboards. Oh!
688
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,759
I'm sure they're beautifully tidy.
689
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,639
Please look from the outside. OK.
690
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,679
OK.
691
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,079
What I can see over there,
692
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,439
on the shelves because there are
no cupboard doors,
693
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,079
are books. Are they cookery books?
694
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,359
Yes, they are cookery books.
695
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,079
I covered them up with the washi,
696
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,080
which is a Japanese old rice papers,
which you see on these white doors.
697
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,919
How beautiful. The wooden doors.
698
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,039
How very beautiful.
699
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,679
Problem is I've got no idea
which is which. Which one is which!
700
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,159
Exactly, exactly. That's OK,
Chris never used them anyway.
701
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,160
HE LAUGHS
702
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,240
This house may seem paradoxical,
both futuristic and historical,
703
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,880
but it's successful because it's the
hard-won fruition of a 20-year
704
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,960
relationship between designer
and client.
705
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,039
So, across the...
what do you call this room?
706
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,399
This is the atrium. The atrium.
707
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,359
This is the connection between
the living and bedroom.
708
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,439
Yeah, it's a good long
distance, isn't it? It is.
709
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,879
To walk. Yeah.
710
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,880
On down through here, very pretty
shafts of light - and these kimonos.
711
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,960
Yes, this is my kimono I wore
when I was seven years old. Never!
712
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,400
And in Japan on the third birthday
and the seventh birthday you have
713
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,880
the girls celebrate their health in
front of the shrine and they always
714
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,320
wear a kimono and this is the kimono
I wore when I was seven years old
715
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,800
and this should be passed on
to the next generation.
716
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,680
The Japanese ideas of composure and
formality permeate this house,
717
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,079
not least in the bedroom wing,
718
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,080
where each room enjoys a private
terrace, angled to catch the sun.
719
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,959
Space for contemplation.
720
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,959
And in to...
721
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,439
Master bedroom.
722
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,759
Isn't it just?
723
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,239
So it was at this point, I felt
724
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,439
that you really asserted
yourselves and you said,
725
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,719
"Right, no, this is where
we step in," almost.
726
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,759
Yeah, I think we combined
our thoughts,
727
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,760
I think that's the way, it's always
been a collaborative process,
728
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,960
and it's always been the three of
us really working together.
729
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,559
Oh, very nice.
730
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,599
Beautiful.
731
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,239
And the bath is magnificent.
732
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,199
That's a Japanese bath. Yes.
733
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,200
With a television? Yes. Stonking.
734
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,560
And there's another stonking bedroom
at the abbey end of the house.
735
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,599
Plus, those three private
bedrooms for the children,
736
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,600
yet again in maple.
737
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,879
Rogan's pursuit of his organic
ideal for a healthy,
738
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,880
whole house is at once a complex
and a personal agenda
739
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,719
and, at the same time,
a great gift to Chris and Kayo.
740
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,439
Are they grateful for it?
741
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,799
You said to me,
ooh, a long while ago,
742
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,479
that you would sort of approach
this like a businessman.
743
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,359
You were looking for
value for money,
744
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,359
you were looking for
a return on your investment
745
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,360
and you also expressed a hope
to be happy living in it.
746
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,559
Does it deliver against those?
747
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,560
I think as a house to live in, it's
all that we could ever hope for,
748
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,639
maybe much more so.
749
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,640
I think, you know, every single day
that goes by and you see the house
750
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,279
kind of organically taking shape,
751
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,639
to me that's value for
money in itself.
752
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,239
And how much did it cost in the end,
in terms of value for money?
753
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,879
Well, I mean, it cost four
years of our lives,
754
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,439
so that's the biggest cost,
755
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,319
and probably another, you know,
six years of planning as well,
756
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,159
so maybe around ten
years altogether.
757
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,039
So that's a big investment.
758
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,999
But you wanted to spend 600k,
759
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,999
you thought it might go north.
760
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,319
It might go north, it might go
south, it might go east,
761
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,199
it might go west,
I'm never too sure,
762
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,999
but, you know, I suppose in
the end we went east with
763
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,679
the design
764
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,799
and I'm very happy that we did.
765
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,359
OK, you're not going to tell me how
much you spent.
766
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,119
I'm sorry, is that what
you asked me? Yeah!
767
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,120
I'm really sorry, I missed that.
768
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,319
Chris was always going to be coy
about how much this crafted house
769
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,999
cost to put together.
770
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,799
But I guess he's right.
771
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,519
It's not about the money,
if you can afford it.
772
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,520
It's about wanting
to connect to this place.
773
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,439
You said very clearly about your old
house just next door that there was
774
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,719
nothing wrong with it, so what
does this home bring you,
775
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,199
bring your family,
that that didn't give you?
776
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,199
Yes, I always felt like
the kids, the children,
777
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,999
were upstairs in their bedrooms,
I'm downstairs in the kitchen.
778
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,879
I feel like we're all together
because the fact is it's on a single
779
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,159
storey. Even though you're
separated by the atrium?
780
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,079
I can open the window
and they're on the other side.
781
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,079
Yeah, that's nice, that
sense of connection there
782
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,919
across the open space.
Yes, there is a connection.
783
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,239
And for you, Chris?
784
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:37,159
Yeah, I think if I could please
the principle stakeholders,
785
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,879
if I could resolve the issues on
this site and create a nice piece of
786
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,559
architecture for this time.
787
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,639
You know, the Romans were
here 2,000 years ago,
788
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,439
the monastery 500 years ago,
here we are today.
789
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,839
Erm.
790
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,319
It's just a little statement,
791
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,759
our little statement on the planet
in this time, and that's it.
792
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,239
And I hope we've done something
that... All of which makes it sound
793
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:03,240
as though, you know,
you feel that the years,
794
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,399
decades of work to get here
have all been worth it.
795
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,559
I think so, I hope so.
796
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,239
If this unusual house
speaks of anything,
797
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,639
it's not of Roman villas
or monasteries
798
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,279
or of Frank Lloyd Wright.
799
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,280
It speaks of collaboration,
friendship and trust -
800
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,719
and golf.
801
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,799
Well...
802
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,879
I hope you've had the discipline
to be able to park your taste
803
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,599
and instead...
804
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,359
Yes!
805
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,360
Admire the craftsmanship, admire the
quality of the design of this place,
806
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,319
cos it is there and it's brilliant
807
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,320
because of the relationship between
Rogan, Chris and Kayo,
808
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,239
because of the absolute faith
809
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:49,119
that they placed in
each other throughout.
810
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,120
And I know that that faith is
underpinned by a refusal to give up,
811
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,839
by an absolute belief
812
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,039
that things will triumph,
that you'd expect,
813
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,040
from a pair of sporting diehards.
814
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,320
We sold a very nice house.
Yeah, and you bought a pile of...
815
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,199
We want that rough,
industrial finish.
816
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,799
We don't want it to look perfect.
817
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,919
I'd put the loo here.
That's our wardrobe.
818
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,920
We'd be going to the toilet
in a cupboard. Plenty of people do.
819
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,439
Some of it is out of our control.
820
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,639
We're making our lives
more difficult, basically.
821
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,640
The road that a ruin will take you
down is the road to ruin.
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