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- Oh, yeah, Kevin.
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(Laughter)
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- What do you feel like?
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- Try it. Say something.
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- It's like a... (Laughs)
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You know what it's like?
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- No, no, no, no.
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You must tell me in here
what it's like. Okay.
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- It's like being... (Laughs)
- I can't talk like that.
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It's like you're...
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- No, no, no, no, no...
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- Come on.
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- It's like...
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Being in a...
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Spaceship.
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(Laughter)
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- I want to write
something about the movie.
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(Mechanical whirring)
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Is there some common thing
about you other than your age?
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- I think between us we've
got a fair cross-section of...
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- But it's not really an
accurate cross-section.
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- No, but it's a cross-section.
- It's all we can do.
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- Yeah.
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- You got into fantastic
subtitles because a lot of people
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might call us all one section
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when in fact that even
in a smaller section
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there's smaller sections
and in smaller sections,
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there's even smaller sections.
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- In the film medium...
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- The medium is the message?
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- Yeah, right.
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Two columns: One visual and one audio.
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- What scenes have you
just generally mapped out?
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- Well, like, in the movie we'll be...
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(Jackhammer)
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(Chatter)
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- Isn't that beautiful?
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- It's fantastic.
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- I'm just wondering what
type of film it will be,
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whether it will be all hippie
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or if this is to do with teenagers,
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if it's to do with teenagers.
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I know that it isn't teenagers.
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All teenagers aren't hippies.
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- Yeah.
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Well, you're not and you're here.
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- Yes, and that's what I'm wondering.
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- The kids are deciding
what the film's going to be.
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Is that right?
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- It's pretty difficult
to argue with 30 kids.
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(Laughter)
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- So, oh, what a freak show.
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(Laughter)
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(Doo-wop music)
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- Is anyone... oh, it's me.
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I'm getting two notes.
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- Take three.
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Here we go.
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Okay, let's do it.
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Christopher's movie matinee
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- You're it.
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We're going on a holiday
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heading somewhere far away
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I don't like the cold anyway
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just want a little warmth every day
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and night
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if it's all right
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the rain is falling
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the month is June
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I'm so jived
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I can't resist the spoon of your sugar
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to sweeten
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the moon
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come let's make our getaway
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we can't last another day
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survival is the only way
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we're going on a holiday
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find a way
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we'll leave today
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- I think you'd be wise
to get a permit from...
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Mr. Thompson.
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- What do we need the permit for though?
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- You need a permit to take
pictures in the park here,
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if they're to be used for
other than private purposes.
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- Is there any place
you can take pictures?
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- Pardon.
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- Is there any place you can take pictures
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or is that all...
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- If you want to come in as a
family and take your picture,
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that's perfectly okay.
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- We're family. We're a family.
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- But if you want...
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If you want to come in
and take pictures for the
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national film board or,
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or for commercial... for
television or something like that,
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I would think that it would
be wise to get a permit
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from pw Thompson, the commissioner
Metro parks department.
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- How long does it take to get a permit?
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- I don't know. He's
down on the 10th floor,
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east tower, city hall.
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(Tires crunch on gravel)
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- Bye.
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Be sure to bring your mandolin
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we've got to keep our handle in
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the pot
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which after all is hot
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see the box we're finally in
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- no, we're just a group of kids,
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but we've got some cameramen
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from the national film board with us.
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We're laughing freaks who live to grin
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- may I please ask for a permit
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to be made out to a group of kids
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who are doing a film in
the etienne brule park.
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If you think this means we can win?
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(Car honking)
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- Hello?
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- Who the hell is this?
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Baby, here's where we came in
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(cars whooshing)
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Goodbye-a ye-a ye-a ye
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goodbye-aye-a ye
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I'm away
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movie
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matinee
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(cars whooshing)
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- We have to get a permit, don't we?
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- She just wanted somebody
to come down and sign it.
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- Just one person or a whole bunch?
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- She said one person. I said we'd all go.
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- Let's all go...
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- Down to the 10th floor of the...
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West building in the city hall.
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And she gave me a list of rules,
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and she said that I was supposed to phone
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this other division, but
she said she'd do it for me.
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(Engine revving)
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- Malcolm's shooting.
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- Malcolm, have you got your
license as a photographer?
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- Whatever you turned on,
you better turn it off fast.
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- Get a shot of Malcolm shooting.
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- Hey, look at that. Look at the duck.
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- It's a Mallard.
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- Money.
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- You're wasting our film, mort.
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- Cause it's running out. (Laughter)
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- Is next week gonna be spontaneous?
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- Some guy's gonna have a little script
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and he knows what he's gonna say...
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- No, not a script. No script.
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- So be spontaneous then.
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- Yeah, well some guy will just say,
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this is roughly what we
want to say and say it
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'cause we've got to have some
idea of what we want to do
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if we're shooting an actual scene.
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Like the one... there's gonna
be a scene with this guy,
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like a mock of an army sergeant.
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We just tell him roughly
what we want him to say.
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- But we have to really
know what he's gonna say.
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- He should think it
over in his head first,
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so he doesn't get all mixed up.
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- I can't afford that footage.
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- Hey, another cop.
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- Malcolm will pay for it.
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Don't worry about it.
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- I think we have a friend of
the friendly men in blue here.
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- All right.
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- This is supposed to be part of his duty.
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- Really?
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- And punching babies
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- oh no.
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- I know, but you're gonna get
nailed for police brutality,
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even if he hits you first.
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- You can have a stick, and
hit him over the head though.
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- When was the last time
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somebody was nailed for police brutality?
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Give me an example.
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- Who's gonna nail them?
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- Yeah, the police?
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- No.
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- Anybody see wojeck the other night?
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(Engine revving)
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- Five minutes ago,
before I come down here,
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I stopped a car.
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Two fellas in this car
fit the description to a t
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for armed robbery yesterday.
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Now, if I just let them go,
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for fear of police brutality,
what would that make me?
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(Chatter)
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- So the judge would have to interpret it.
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- Mmm-hmm.
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- We rest our case.
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- Yes, can we steal one of these?
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You've only got one left anyway.
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(Laughter)
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- Should make about 15 out here.
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- I think we're worrying about
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what's the purpose of the film?
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What's the nature of it?
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- So far, for the past
week, we haven't had any...
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- Now what if I told you that
I thought the shot was...
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Uh, was stupid.
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Should I go ahead and shoot it anyway,
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because then I'm putting
my professional reputation
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on the line as a cameraman.
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- Yeah.
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- Well, tell us what you
think of it before you...
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What you think of the whole situation.
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- It shouldn't be just
up to any one person
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to go up to you and say,
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I think you ought to shoot this
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because it's what I'm
thinking and I like it.
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If it's a group effort, then everybody
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ought to say whether they
think it's a good idea or not.
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- We've been faced with
all different policies.
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Like you say all right,
if you don't like this,
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go ahead and say so, all right.
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So Roger and I decided to
film you getting mad at us.
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You were gonna film us getting mad at you.
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Okay?
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So we do this and it kind of
flops off in the first stage.
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And then you come up and
say we can't afford that.
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Yet you encouraged that sort of thing
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in the first place.
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What's the point, you see?
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We're faced with all this
different policy here.
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If you want a film organized,
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we're vastly capable of organizing it,
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we're capable of choosing the right sets,
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we can get...
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You just sit back on
your fannies and earn.
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We'll arrange the whole movie.
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We'll tell you, "bring the camera here,"
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and you can direct it from there on,
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and we'll have the whole
movie ready for you.
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- Well, couldn't you ask...
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- And then you can edit it
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and do anything after that,
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but I mean, tell us what
you want for Pete's sake.
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- Couldn't you ask Martin to
show me getting mad at you?
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- I did.
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- Which you probably did anyway.
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- Sure he did.
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- No, but you didn't, did
you? You took the camera.
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Do you wanna see the film that you shot?
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What happens if it doesn't come out?
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Will you have me getting mad at you,
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if it doesn't come out?
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- Martin will. Martin will.
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- Well, I didn't object to
Martin shooting me getting angry.
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Did I?
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- No.
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- I objected to you...
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I objected to you shooting
off a roll of film.
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- It wasn't a full roll when we got it.
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- No, but I didn't stop
him right away either.
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- Yeah, but you didn't know
right away either, did you?
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- Conflict.
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(Laughter)
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- The point, you know,
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the point is we're not
really giving you the...
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The camera, we're giving you the crew.
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Like I don't object to...
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- All right so say that!
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But you haven't said that before, you see.
266
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Now you've said it.
267
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All right, that's fine.
268
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- No, no, no.
269
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I said it right at the very
beginning, that we were...
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That what we would do is work out
271
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the filmic expression with you
272
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while we were shooting.
273
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When you talk... when we talked about,
274
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when we talked about limits of control...
275
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- But we haven't really,
you know. You've said some,
276
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but I mean, you know, just make it clear.
277
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Stand up now and say, "this
is the way it's going to be,"
278
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and we'll do it for you.
279
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- Well,
280
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- but I can't stand this way.
281
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It's just messing around right now.
282
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I mean, it's fine for
a few days. All right.
283
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We've got lots of pretty
little cut shots, you know,
284
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and everything will look fine.
285
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It'll look all so spontaneous,
286
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and everybody will think
what a marvelous little film,
287
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but let's get down to business.
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('60s rock music)
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Right out of sight
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most every night
291
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no we are not afraid to fly
292
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we know to live is to die
293
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for me how
294
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- oh, well... after
all, they're only young.
295
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Some people
296
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- they're only young.
297
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Just can't grow old
298
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- they'll get over it.
299
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Angel of death
300
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in my dreams
301
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- the congestion is there only
because people feel there is
302
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something freakish to look at.
303
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Lady strange
304
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we change
305
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today
306
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- they feel that there
shouldn't be any wars
307
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or everybody should be peaceful.
308
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It's not the way
309
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- that's almost impossible.
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It was to be
311
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in your dream
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- carbon monoxide and everything.
313
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It's making them all sick.
314
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Funny how
315
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some people just
316
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- that led quickly to a
very dangerous situation.
317
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Can't grow gold
318
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(protest chant)
319
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- Close our streets! Close our streets!
320
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- Well, we've certainly
had a lot of concern
321
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over what is going on at yorkville,
322
00:13:27,724 --> 00:13:29,308
and I took it upon myself
323
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and talked to these people called hippies.
324
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Now, they're not all bad.
325
00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:34,605
Not all kids are bad,
326
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but sometimes you get a cancer area there,
327
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and we're trying to ferret that out.
328
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- If they at least wash their hair,
329
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they can wear it long if they want to.
330
00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:45,991
- And eating flowers
and that sort of thing,
331
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- but I just can't see it, that's all.
332
00:13:47,618 --> 00:13:51,621
- I have learned one
thing in life for sure.
333
00:13:51,622 --> 00:13:54,584
- You're on the hot seat, Jack,
what are you gonna say for yourself?
334
00:13:55,376 --> 00:13:57,336
- Why are you here?
335
00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:59,629
- What do you have to say for yourself?
336
00:13:59,630 --> 00:14:01,006
- You'll never go to the top
337
00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:03,008
unless you have personal discipline.
338
00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:05,845
(Chatter)
339
00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:14,895
- Cause he assured me he'd
be here five minutes to two.
340
00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,146
- It is suggested by some of the group
341
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that they are on their way.
342
00:14:18,483 --> 00:14:20,650
- If I were their age,
343
00:14:20,651 --> 00:14:23,653
I would probably be a hippie myself.
344
00:14:23,654 --> 00:14:26,114
- Mr. Depoe there please.
345
00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:27,533
Mr. Depoe.
346
00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:31,411
- Whoa, they seem to be a bit... way out
347
00:14:31,412 --> 00:14:33,497
my way of thinking.
348
00:14:33,498 --> 00:14:35,500
- Is Mr. Depoe with you?
349
00:14:40,755 --> 00:14:42,798
- If we can find out who of
Mr. Depoe's group is, sir.
350
00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:43,633
We're not getting any answers.
351
00:14:43,634 --> 00:14:46,510
- This group that marched in...
352
00:14:46,511 --> 00:14:47,886
- Is Mr. Depoe with you?
353
00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:50,055
- But if we stop some of
this, and this meeting today
354
00:14:50,056 --> 00:14:51,807
will do it. I am sure.
355
00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:54,017
We'll get these fellas on the right track,
356
00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:55,310
and try and help them,
357
00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:57,312
or maybe we'll have to have
another one to get to it,
358
00:14:57,313 --> 00:14:59,523
but we get the right questions
and the right answers.
359
00:14:59,524 --> 00:15:00,441
We'll accomplish them.
360
00:15:00,442 --> 00:15:01,566
And those parents,
361
00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:04,694
there's no doubt about it.
If a lot of this is stopped,
362
00:15:04,695 --> 00:15:06,822
those children will head for home.
363
00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:08,573
- Do they go to work at all, these people?
364
00:15:08,574 --> 00:15:10,701
(Chatter)
365
00:15:21,212 --> 00:15:23,422
- We have a few people who want to talk.
366
00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:25,425
- Do you want to get them up here?
367
00:15:28,845 --> 00:15:30,345
- Well, I think they're
just another little bit
368
00:15:30,346 --> 00:15:31,972
of human nature.
369
00:15:31,973 --> 00:15:34,099
- I wonder sometimes what
happened to the girls that used to
370
00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:36,101
like the boys that got their hair cut
371
00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,687
and wore after shave
lotion and stuff like this.
372
00:15:38,688 --> 00:15:40,815
(Chatter)
373
00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:45,819
- We were queer in many ways, but not...
374
00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:47,863
Not as far out as they are.
375
00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:49,489
- I don't see that they
have to have bare feet
376
00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:51,741
and beards to get their point across.
377
00:15:51,742 --> 00:15:54,619
- They dress and act and their hygiene
378
00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,997
is different than it ever was
379
00:15:56,998 --> 00:15:59,124
to my knowledge in history
380
00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:02,003
that I can find or to my...
381
00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:06,756
Knowledge and fact in this
city who was born here,
382
00:16:06,757 --> 00:16:09,092
have I ever seen it it
displayed in this way.
383
00:16:09,093 --> 00:16:10,093
- Please.
384
00:16:11,137 --> 00:16:12,013
- You Mr. Depoe?
385
00:16:12,013 --> 00:16:12,889
- Yes.
386
00:16:12,890 --> 00:16:14,097
- Thank you very much.
387
00:16:14,098 --> 00:16:16,600
- Oh, well it's very, very nice of you,
388
00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:18,018
and thank you very much, sweetheart.
389
00:16:18,019 --> 00:16:21,021
Here. Can I give you a kiss?
390
00:16:21,022 --> 00:16:22,147
- Picture?
391
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:24,901
(Applause)
392
00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,905
- This is one of the nicest bouquets
393
00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:31,281
I ever had in my life.
394
00:16:31,282 --> 00:16:34,493
When it comes from the heart,
that's the important thing.
395
00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,786
Remember, you'll never go to the top
396
00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:38,246
unless you remember,
397
00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:40,040
you gotta start at the bottom,
398
00:16:40,041 --> 00:16:42,501
and you gotta remember the
fella just to the top of you
399
00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,503
is your boss and the next step up,
400
00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:47,297
you gotta have a boss and
if you can learn to take it,
401
00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:49,633
you can learn to dish it out.
402
00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:52,177
(Applause)
403
00:16:52,178 --> 00:16:53,929
So whoever's first, Mr. Depoe,
404
00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:55,680
would you like to say something first?
405
00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:57,933
- Yeah. I'd just like to say
406
00:16:57,934 --> 00:17:01,144
that I'd like the thing to
be as informal as possible.
407
00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,063
- It will be.
408
00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:04,564
- I didn't realize that we were
409
00:17:04,565 --> 00:17:08,861
gonna have quite such a
formal occasion as this, but
410
00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:12,155
I guess...
411
00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,494
Maybe you can start off
by asking some questions.
412
00:17:17,495 --> 00:17:18,912
Would you like to do that?
413
00:17:18,913 --> 00:17:20,539
- Yes, I will.
414
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:21,915
Number one, will you tell me...
415
00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:26,127
Perhaps the most difficult
one, as you know,
416
00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:28,548
we all in this administration,
417
00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:31,758
on behalf of the mayor and the board
418
00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:33,552
are in favor, most in favor
419
00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,680
of the very wonderful place, yorkville.
420
00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:39,808
Yorkville is a Cosmopolitan
area and certainly
421
00:17:39,809 --> 00:17:42,561
we need more of them in this city.
422
00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:45,189
We will do all we can
to keep them healthy,
423
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,567
but the problem we have is for teenagers,
424
00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:51,444
have been accused of being disorderly.
425
00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:54,781
As you know, there's a long
list of police convictions
426
00:17:54,782 --> 00:17:56,032
and lost people.
427
00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:57,701
A disorderly group,
428
00:17:57,702 --> 00:18:00,829
perhaps not intended by you,
429
00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:05,333
has developed to a point where
430
00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:08,211
uneasiness rests in that area.
431
00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:10,715
Now will somebody tell me why?
432
00:18:12,341 --> 00:18:14,844
- That's a very good question.
433
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:19,598
- I'm not too sure what
you're really asking.
434
00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,099
(Laughter)
435
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:23,685
- It seems there's a reason for...
436
00:18:23,686 --> 00:18:24,853
Are you working, may I ask?
437
00:18:24,854 --> 00:18:25,937
- No, I'm not.
438
00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,480
- Well, then perhaps we'll hit that and...
439
00:18:27,481 --> 00:18:29,733
Nobody's condemning you for it...
440
00:18:29,734 --> 00:18:31,360
Perhaps we'll say then why...
441
00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,238
Do you wish not to work?
442
00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:38,241
We're trying to find out
what can we do for this?
443
00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,701
What is there? Do you
want more recreation?
444
00:18:39,702 --> 00:18:43,496
Do you want some type of employment,
445
00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:44,873
some type of schooling,
446
00:18:44,874 --> 00:18:47,500
something to give you aims or objects?
447
00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:50,503
Would you please tell us that answer?
448
00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:53,089
- I don't think it's a question of
449
00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:56,009
just supplying facilities.
450
00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:58,720
Certainly, for the most part,
451
00:18:58,721 --> 00:19:01,514
these kids drop out of jobs
because they don't like the way
452
00:19:01,515 --> 00:19:03,892
that people are exploited by industry.
453
00:19:03,893 --> 00:19:06,269
They drop out of school
because they don't like the way
454
00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:08,021
the school is operating.
455
00:19:08,022 --> 00:19:11,232
Practically all of the academic
work in primary schools
456
00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:13,401
could be given in four years.
457
00:19:13,402 --> 00:19:16,404
That leaves people to wonder
just what it is that they're
458
00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:18,657
spending the rest of the
time teaching people.
459
00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:20,116
A form of indoctrination probably,
460
00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:22,285
teaching kids how to sit in school
461
00:19:22,286 --> 00:19:24,496
with their hands properly
folded on the desk,
462
00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:27,290
to walk in single files down halls.
463
00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:30,377
- The statistics show that
there are more people today
464
00:19:30,378 --> 00:19:34,130
employed as a result of
that system than ever before
465
00:19:34,131 --> 00:19:35,382
in our history.
466
00:19:35,383 --> 00:19:37,425
- Perhaps there is another element,
467
00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:38,802
which should be considered.
468
00:19:38,803 --> 00:19:41,179
The personal pride and dignity people have
469
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:43,556
and their ability to be happy or satisfied
470
00:19:43,557 --> 00:19:44,766
with the job.
471
00:19:44,767 --> 00:19:46,434
- But you refer to the word dignity.
472
00:19:46,435 --> 00:19:47,811
Now that's a very good word.
473
00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:50,438
A number of them there
haven't been washed for weeks.
474
00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:52,440
Now they aren't seeking dignity, are they?
475
00:19:52,441 --> 00:19:53,275
- All right then what...
476
00:19:53,276 --> 00:19:57,195
- They wish to live and be
happy not to work because the
477
00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,031
greatest happiness is derived
from working that I've found.
478
00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,075
I think most of the people who...
479
00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:02,952
- Chairman...
480
00:20:02,953 --> 00:20:04,327
- Who have to work like I do...
481
00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,287
(Chatter)
482
00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:09,082
I'm interested in those who say...
483
00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:11,459
I'm interested in those that say "no."
484
00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:13,169
Well, now please tell us your psychology
485
00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:14,838
because it's got me buffaloed
486
00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:16,089
and I'm sure it'll have many
487
00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:19,467
buffaloed when it's printed that you...
488
00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:21,469
- It's very nice to say the
greatest happiness derives from
489
00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:25,348
working when it seems to be
an indication that our society
490
00:20:25,349 --> 00:20:27,809
is striving for more leisure time.
491
00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:29,227
It looks like they're trying harder
492
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:30,854
not to have any happiness.
493
00:20:30,855 --> 00:20:32,105
- Well, that's a point,
494
00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:33,857
and I think you're quite right sometimes,
495
00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:36,609
and that's why there's so many
things of amusement required
496
00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,987
to keep the people busy
in their spare time.
497
00:20:38,988 --> 00:20:42,490
But how are you going to live
without earning a living?
498
00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:44,951
One can't live off the other.
499
00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:46,995
- Don't you think we're
working at the moment
500
00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:49,706
by coming down here to talk to you?
501
00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:51,624
I mean, we're doing
exactly what you're doing.
502
00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:53,877
You're talking to us.
We're talking to you.
503
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:56,337
Only we're not getting paid for it.
504
00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:59,008
(Applause)
505
00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:04,721
- Have a sense of humor like you have,
506
00:21:04,722 --> 00:21:06,015
- it's not funny.
507
00:21:07,016 --> 00:21:09,768
You hold a position, probably to effect
508
00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:12,228
some sort of change, to help people.
509
00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:13,271
That's why you work.
510
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,731
- I have yes, an abundance.
511
00:21:14,732 --> 00:21:15,524
- All right.
512
00:21:15,525 --> 00:21:17,525
I think that's what a lot of
the people here are doing.
513
00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:18,985
They're trying to help people.
514
00:21:18,986 --> 00:21:21,237
They're trying to effect
some sort of change.
515
00:21:21,238 --> 00:21:22,363
- Well, that's what I'm trying to get at.
516
00:21:22,364 --> 00:21:23,990
I know you are. You've explained that,
517
00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:26,659
but tell us the change
that you want to have occur
518
00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:28,787
in society. We haven't got that yet.
519
00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:29,747
- We want people...
520
00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:30,872
- We know what you're doing,
521
00:21:30,873 --> 00:21:32,499
and what you'd like in a home,
522
00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,542
but please tell us what the change is
523
00:21:34,543 --> 00:21:37,045
that you think this
city could help you with
524
00:21:37,046 --> 00:21:39,881
in the federal units or
provincial units to...
525
00:21:39,882 --> 00:21:42,926
- It's not the city itself it can help.
526
00:21:42,927 --> 00:21:44,052
It's the people in the city.
527
00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:46,179
- We're in a position to be
able to speak for you probably
528
00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:47,555
if there are some things that we can do.
529
00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:49,057
- Practice leaving us alone.
530
00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:51,434
- Unfortunately, society
doesn't work that way.
531
00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,061
Just exactly the way you like it.
532
00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:55,147
- That's why we drop out.
533
00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:57,941
- Society doesn't work that way.
534
00:21:57,942 --> 00:21:59,693
- Of course you are, but...
535
00:22:00,945 --> 00:22:03,321
Democracy has laid down
in rules that we don't...
536
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:04,948
(Laughter)
537
00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:09,410
It means that the majority will
always be in the authority.
538
00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:12,789
- Could you be very specific
and honest and outline what you
539
00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:16,043
would like ideally yorkville to become?
540
00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:18,837
- Well, I'd like yorkville to grow as
541
00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:20,588
a shopping center.
542
00:22:20,589 --> 00:22:22,423
(Laughter)
543
00:22:22,424 --> 00:22:25,093
Of an unusual nature as it is,
544
00:22:25,094 --> 00:22:29,098
a place for artists to display their art,
545
00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:32,475
the coffee shops I like to see.
546
00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:34,811
I don't like to see them
when they're in an area that
547
00:22:34,812 --> 00:22:36,729
they're going to disturb.
548
00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:39,232
If they're too close to
the housing districts,
549
00:22:39,233 --> 00:22:41,734
that wouldn't be reasonable.
550
00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:42,611
- But you haven't...
551
00:22:42,612 --> 00:22:45,446
You haven't gone over the problems you
552
00:22:45,447 --> 00:22:48,491
have outlined for us and said
what you want to be done about
553
00:22:48,492 --> 00:22:50,201
these problems,
554
00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:53,621
how you would ideally like
to deal with these problems,
555
00:22:53,622 --> 00:22:54,831
and I really don't see
how leaving yorkville
556
00:22:54,832 --> 00:22:56,082
as a shopping center...
557
00:22:56,083 --> 00:22:58,376
- We'll have to discuss this at the board.
558
00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,502
This is exploratory,
559
00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:01,754
and I'm just as interested
as you are in hearing these
560
00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:02,755
answers to try.
561
00:23:02,756 --> 00:23:05,091
- I just wanted to know
specifically what you wanted
562
00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:07,010
yorkville to become.
Now I know. Thank you.
563
00:23:07,011 --> 00:23:07,887
- Yes.
564
00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:08,762
- You know,
565
00:23:08,763 --> 00:23:11,097
contributing by furthering
their mental powers
566
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:14,267
or something like this and
that isn't this a relevant
567
00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:16,019
means of contributing to the society.
568
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:17,521
- Of course it is.
569
00:23:19,273 --> 00:23:20,481
- Is the secretary there?
570
00:23:20,482 --> 00:23:22,525
Tell him that I want him.
571
00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:24,527
We'll put that down for a study too.
572
00:23:24,528 --> 00:23:26,029
- The spiritual is so often ignored.
573
00:23:26,030 --> 00:23:28,281
- Would you take this up with Mr. Depoe?
574
00:23:28,282 --> 00:23:29,116
- Okay, yeah.
575
00:23:29,117 --> 00:23:30,533
- Will you? And tell him that
576
00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:32,410
I agree with you a hundred percent.
577
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:35,663
- See Mr. Miller, I was
in Ottawa for three weeks
578
00:23:35,664 --> 00:23:37,666
before coming to Toronto...
579
00:23:39,168 --> 00:23:40,544
Well, what I found out in Ottawa.
580
00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:44,172
- Wait! This gentleman... go down with you
581
00:23:44,173 --> 00:23:45,381
to the cafeteria.
582
00:23:45,382 --> 00:23:47,176
Somebody will show him how.
583
00:23:55,309 --> 00:23:57,769
- So you take a tough stand on the thing,
584
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:58,770
but the thing is that those kids,
585
00:23:58,771 --> 00:24:00,396
those kids went into a meeting.
586
00:24:00,397 --> 00:24:03,441
- Oh, those kids. All of
a sudden they're kids?
587
00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:04,442
They're not kids.
588
00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:07,195
- All right. Those young
people. Those young adults.
589
00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:08,821
They went into a meeting and they spent...
590
00:24:08,822 --> 00:24:12,033
- Those young adults.
- Eddie boy... Mr. Depoe?
591
00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:14,160
- Look, they've spent a long time.
592
00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:17,080
They spent about four
hours talking to lamport,
593
00:24:17,081 --> 00:24:18,957
and all he did was laugh at them.
594
00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:23,336
They just refused to
take the kids seriously.
595
00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:24,337
But what sense is that?
596
00:24:24,338 --> 00:24:25,713
What would any minority...
597
00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:27,298
What do the negroes in the states do
598
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:29,467
when people refuse to
take their ills seriously?
599
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,094
- You want to talk about
the negroes in the states
600
00:24:31,095 --> 00:24:32,845
or you want to talk
about the boys up here?
601
00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:33,972
- They're both the same thing.
602
00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:35,848
They're all reactionary movements.
603
00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:37,809
They're all reacting
against the same thing.
604
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:38,602
- Oh, come on.
605
00:24:38,603 --> 00:24:39,727
- They're reacting for different reasons.
606
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:40,728
- Be your age, eh.
607
00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,063
- They're reacting for different reasons.
608
00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:43,481
- Be your age.
609
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:44,565
- I am my age.
610
00:24:44,566 --> 00:24:46,317
- Come on.
611
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:47,236
You're comparing yourself
612
00:24:47,237 --> 00:24:49,362
to the negroes in the states already.
613
00:24:49,363 --> 00:24:50,488
- We're all reacting.
614
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:52,491
- You ever been down there and seen them?
615
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:54,951
You ever been down and
seen how the negroes live
616
00:24:54,952 --> 00:24:55,869
in the southern states?
617
00:24:55,870 --> 00:24:57,495
- Yes, I have.
618
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:58,705
- And you compare yourself to them?
619
00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:00,331
- I compare myself in that
620
00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:01,749
we're both reacting against something.
621
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:02,750
-Mmmm.
622
00:25:04,378 --> 00:25:06,380
(Indistinct frustration)
623
00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:08,840
You're reacting against what?
624
00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:10,633
- Against your kind of world.
625
00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:11,884
- Against my kind of world, eh?
626
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:13,512
- Yeah.
627
00:25:14,388 --> 00:25:15,388
- Well...
628
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,600
What I would say to you is this,
629
00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,144
and a friend of mine across there,
630
00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:23,021
we were discussing this earlier.
631
00:25:23,022 --> 00:25:24,605
You know what I'd like to see?
632
00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:25,399
- What?
633
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,525
- I'd like to see the world
turned back, you know,
634
00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:29,736
20 years, 25 years,
635
00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:32,780
and I'd like to be standing
in the gates of my barracks
636
00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:33,906
of my regimen,
637
00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:36,367
and I'd like to see all
of you march in there
638
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:40,872
and you know what? I'd
change your mind in one week.
639
00:25:40,873 --> 00:25:41,790
- No, you wouldn't.
640
00:25:41,791 --> 00:25:43,291
- Yes, I would, buddy.
641
00:25:43,292 --> 00:25:44,168
- No, you wouldn't.
642
00:25:44,168 --> 00:25:45,002
- Oh boy.
643
00:25:45,003 --> 00:25:46,669
(Laughter)
644
00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:48,171
- But what could you prove?
645
00:25:48,172 --> 00:25:49,006
- Huh?
646
00:25:49,006 --> 00:25:49,798
- What could you prove?
647
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:51,674
- Nothing, but I'd tell you what I'd do.
648
00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:53,134
When I said march, you would march,
649
00:25:53,135 --> 00:25:56,054
and you wouldn't have your locks anymore.
650
00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:56,930
- Well, so what?
651
00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:57,765
- That's visual boy.
652
00:25:57,766 --> 00:25:59,557
- So what? What are you gonna prove?
653
00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:00,434
- Nothing.
654
00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:02,310
- What on earth are you gonna prove?
655
00:26:02,311 --> 00:26:03,561
- Well, all of a sudden,
you turn around and say...
656
00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:04,771
- The world has had...
657
00:26:04,772 --> 00:26:07,190
- "I'm not a moon man
anymore, I'm a human being."
658
00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:08,566
That's what you'd say, buddy boy.
659
00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,818
- I say I'm a human being right now.
660
00:26:10,819 --> 00:26:13,321
- Well, we've got an argument there.
661
00:26:13,322 --> 00:26:15,073
- What on earth are you gonna prove
662
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,157
by making me do something
663
00:26:16,158 --> 00:26:18,034
at the jump of somebody else's will?
664
00:26:18,035 --> 00:26:19,035
- Well...
665
00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:21,537
- Look, the world has had
thousands of years of soldiers,
666
00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:23,081
thousands of years of people jumping up
667
00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:24,791
when the order was shouted.
668
00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:26,084
Isn't it about time that everybody starts
669
00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:26,960
thinking for themselves?
670
00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:29,212
- You don't only jump up
because the order's shouted, eh.
671
00:26:29,213 --> 00:26:30,089
All of a sudden you're something,
672
00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:33,716
and you know what you are? Eh?
673
00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:37,220
You're a man and you
ain't never gonna be a man
674
00:26:37,221 --> 00:26:39,598
while you're doing this.
Honest to god.
675
00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:43,601
You're gonna reject everything,
676
00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:46,104
but you will never be a man.
677
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,606
You can live to 90 and
you will never be it.
678
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:50,733
- What's a man?
679
00:26:50,734 --> 00:26:53,361
- When you achieve manhood,
you'll find out, buddy.
680
00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,571
I can't tell you.
681
00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:56,864
Okay?
682
00:26:56,865 --> 00:26:58,116
I'll tell you one thing.
683
00:26:58,117 --> 00:27:02,120
You won't be a man with
pansies in your hair, you know?
684
00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:03,122
Huh?
685
00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:06,874
Making like a Daisy chain
and all this jazz, huh?
686
00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:08,876
No, sir.
687
00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:13,089
You won't be a man like
making like a bully either.
688
00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:14,132
- Well, isn't that what you're being
689
00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:15,573
when you march us into the barracks.
690
00:27:16,385 --> 00:27:18,094
No, no, no, no.
691
00:27:18,095 --> 00:27:20,972
You apply a constitution and respect it.
692
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,974
In other words, you conform.
693
00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,892
- Well, what's the good of that?
694
00:27:24,893 --> 00:27:27,478
The world has had thousands
of years of conforming.
695
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,647
- And it's been doing pretty darn good.
696
00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:30,648
- It hasn't been.
697
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,275
It's been having some pretty hellish wars.
698
00:27:32,276 --> 00:27:35,153
- But we've done pretty good
since the last one already.
699
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,155
- And we're gonna have
another one already.
700
00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:39,115
- If we have another one, buddy,
701
00:27:39,116 --> 00:27:40,241
and you're in the army,
702
00:27:40,242 --> 00:27:42,160
I'm gonna go over to the other side.
703
00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:44,662
(Laughter)
704
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:46,248
Don't ever tell me!
705
00:27:48,041 --> 00:27:49,376
- Jesus Christ.
706
00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:52,379
Come on.
707
00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:54,672
We gonna have another war.
708
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,174
Who's gonna fight us?
709
00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:57,175
What do we got?
710
00:27:57,176 --> 00:27:58,676
- What are we gonna fight about?
711
00:27:58,677 --> 00:27:59,511
- Got the Navy.
712
00:27:59,512 --> 00:28:00,553
- This is it.
713
00:28:00,554 --> 00:28:02,430
- What are we gonna fight about?
714
00:28:02,431 --> 00:28:04,182
It's only because you
push people into barracks,
715
00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:05,433
and make them jump at the sound
716
00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:07,685
of somebody's order that we have wars.
717
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:08,562
- Ahhh.
718
00:28:08,563 --> 00:28:10,563
- What's there to fight about?
719
00:28:10,564 --> 00:28:12,023
- But you said we were gonna fight.
720
00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:13,441
I didn't say we were gonna fight.
721
00:28:13,442 --> 00:28:15,151
- I said you're gonna
fight. I'm not gonna fight.
722
00:28:15,152 --> 00:28:16,444
- I say we settled it last time.
723
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:18,279
- It's your world. You're still in charge.
724
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,198
- My world?
725
00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:21,324
Where did you go, the moon?
726
00:28:21,325 --> 00:28:22,159
- I'm here.
727
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,410
- So you stay here and
it's your world too.
728
00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:25,287
- No.
729
00:28:25,288 --> 00:28:26,829
- And as soon as you face up the fact
730
00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:28,956
that when I'm an old
man, staggering around
731
00:28:28,957 --> 00:28:31,584
in a wheelchair, buddy,
you gotta look after me
732
00:28:31,585 --> 00:28:35,087
because I've been looking
after you all your young life.
733
00:28:35,088 --> 00:28:36,088
- I didn't ask you to.
734
00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:38,591
- Start contributing. I didn't ask you to?
735
00:28:38,592 --> 00:28:40,468
I didn't ask to be born.
736
00:28:40,469 --> 00:28:42,095
Come on. Grow up.
737
00:28:43,055 --> 00:28:44,847
You know, make like a human being.
738
00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:46,682
- You're not facing the question.
739
00:28:46,683 --> 00:28:48,726
- Oh, I'm facing the question.
740
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:50,353
- I didn't ask to be born.
741
00:28:50,354 --> 00:28:53,856
- I know you didn't, and I
feel sure that your mother
742
00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:58,611
and father also asked this question.
Why?
743
00:28:58,612 --> 00:28:59,862
Huh?
744
00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,489
(Laughter)
745
00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:03,366
- You ever said that to
me and I was your dad,
746
00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:05,368
oh man, we would get together.
747
00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:06,494
- Yeah.
748
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,246
- I'm telling you.
749
00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,874
We'd have a father and son chat,
750
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,752
and that is for sure.
751
00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,256
- Take 100. Roll 37.
752
00:29:18,131 --> 00:29:19,840
A centennial special.
753
00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:21,510
(Laughter)
754
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:23,637
- Remember this man?
755
00:29:23,638 --> 00:29:26,138
Remember at the city hall the other day?
756
00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:28,224
- Oh, that's right, yes.
757
00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:30,018
- He just tried the earphones.
758
00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:32,646
- Yeah, great.
759
00:29:33,981 --> 00:29:35,232
- You're gonna be in the movie.
760
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:37,149
- Tom.
761
00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:39,860
Cathy.
762
00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:40,654
Tom.
763
00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:41,655
Everyone.
764
00:29:41,655 --> 00:29:42,489
- Thanks a lot.
765
00:29:42,489 --> 00:29:43,489
- Tom!
766
00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:46,159
What we're doing...
767
00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:49,287
We're doing this scene in
which you turn the camera on,
768
00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:50,538
you know?
769
00:29:50,539 --> 00:29:52,290
So everybody has to look
770
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:55,376
for beautiful images on this street
771
00:29:55,377 --> 00:29:59,547
for Richard and Martin at times,
772
00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:01,299
to photograph. Okay?
773
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:02,300
So look for things.
774
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:03,926
You remember we started
doing the other day.
775
00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:04,803
- Yeah.
776
00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:05,928
- See what things you can find. Everyone.
777
00:30:05,929 --> 00:30:07,805
Any suggestions are welcome
778
00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:10,183
as to what we can shoot on the street.
779
00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:14,562
(Whistling)
780
00:30:14,563 --> 00:30:15,689
- Don't forget the binder.
781
00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:20,902
- That was tremendous.
782
00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:30,828
- What do you got?
783
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,039
- What have I got?
784
00:30:35,709 --> 00:30:38,711
- How about these flowers?
785
00:30:38,712 --> 00:30:41,298
- They're not very colorful.
786
00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:45,843
- There's a lot of
little flowers back there
787
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:47,595
that are rather beautiful, you know,
788
00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:50,431
in a way because they're
just inconspicuous,
789
00:30:50,432 --> 00:30:53,434
just sort of sitting there
minding their own business.
790
00:30:53,435 --> 00:30:55,186
Why don't you film some of those?
791
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,188
- The flowers are obvious.
792
00:30:57,189 --> 00:31:00,691
What you said you wanted earlier
was to try and get things
793
00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:02,693
that look drab at first glance.
794
00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:03,819
- Well, that looks drab.
795
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:05,821
Look at the scene. It's a cold wall
796
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,449
and dirty white paint.
797
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:11,994
And yet in this green and a
little bit of beauty there.
798
00:31:11,995 --> 00:31:13,621
- I mean, it'll be a sensational thing
799
00:31:13,622 --> 00:31:15,374
if you can turn this...
800
00:31:17,626 --> 00:31:19,086
This is drab.
801
00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:26,009
- I mean, this is really drab.
802
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:31,139
- Is this a real zoom in thing?
803
00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:33,224
- That shot is feasible.
804
00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:36,102
- So should it be done? Is it...
805
00:31:36,103 --> 00:31:39,230
- Should it be done is not my business.
806
00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:41,108
I just say it's feasible.
807
00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:43,984
- Yeah, but is it
feasible with good quality
808
00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:47,239
or bad quality, cinematically speaking?
809
00:31:49,533 --> 00:31:51,659
- Well, that depends on
your standards of quality.
810
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:54,495
- Well, we have a good cameraman, okay.
811
00:31:54,496 --> 00:31:56,288
- It's not a matter of good and bad.
812
00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:57,124
No, no.
813
00:31:57,125 --> 00:31:59,793
It's not good or bad. It's a matter of...
814
00:32:03,505 --> 00:32:04,755
(Whistling)
815
00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:08,676
Being a certain shot for
a certain type of film.
816
00:32:08,677 --> 00:32:09,802
- Yeah.
817
00:32:09,803 --> 00:32:11,303
- Like what I'm going have to do...
818
00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:12,430
You want me to go all through
819
00:32:12,431 --> 00:32:13,764
these different things here, right?
820
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:14,558
- Yeah.
821
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,308
- A, it'll be handheld, so it'll be shaky,
822
00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:17,185
okay?
823
00:32:17,186 --> 00:32:19,562
It won't be on a tripod.
824
00:32:19,563 --> 00:32:21,689
You can't say whether
that's good or bad
825
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:23,316
because good or bad
826
00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:26,193
depends on the situation.
827
00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:27,070
You know?
828
00:32:27,071 --> 00:32:30,030
- It's got to be the feeling
of this big space out here.
829
00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:30,824
- Yeah.
830
00:32:30,825 --> 00:32:33,284
- So you've got to get rid of this thing.
831
00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:35,161
I mean, you're right up
to the bay street sign,
832
00:32:35,162 --> 00:32:39,541
even at the the shortest magnification.
833
00:32:41,209 --> 00:32:42,334
So that's no good.
834
00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:47,299
- You go from space to a
very, very small detail shot.
835
00:32:48,217 --> 00:32:51,970
We need lenses for the camera, Richard.
836
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,849
Turn off that stupid camera
and get me some lenses.
837
00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:59,852
- We need other lenses.
838
00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:01,228
- I'm in charge now, okay?
839
00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:02,730
Mort is no longer director.
840
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:05,191
I'm in charge, as far
as this sequence goes.
841
00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:07,109
- When did this happen?
842
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:08,944
- Mort just said so a minute ago.
843
00:33:08,945 --> 00:33:11,322
All right. I'm directing
this sequence, right?
844
00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,199
- Nobody said you're directing.
845
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,116
- You said I could tell him what to do,
846
00:33:14,117 --> 00:33:15,367
and he would do it.
847
00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,745
You said I could tell him
what to do and he would do it.
848
00:33:17,746 --> 00:33:18,497
Didn't you?
849
00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:21,749
- No, I said you could
advise him what to do.
850
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:23,751
- You said go in and get your point
851
00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:25,002
and make sure about it.
852
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,879
- Yeah, make sure you
get your point across.
853
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,756
Sure.
854
00:33:27,757 --> 00:33:29,340
- Well, make sure you
get your point across.
855
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:30,133
Tell him.
856
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:31,009
- Well, come on Martin.
857
00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:32,259
We've gotta shoot this thing.
858
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:33,220
- Tell him what you want.
859
00:33:33,221 --> 00:33:35,012
It doesn't matter whether
he does it right now.
860
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,389
- Turn around. Okay?
861
00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:39,892
You know, we've gotta have
the shot of the street.
862
00:33:39,893 --> 00:33:41,018
- Shot of the street.
863
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,019
- Yeah.
864
00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:45,397
- Can I get a feeling of space?
865
00:33:45,398 --> 00:33:48,026
- A feeling of space. Okay. I zoom back.
866
00:33:49,402 --> 00:33:51,237
I got it. Now what?
867
00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:54,156
- Okay, now we want to get a zoom shot,
868
00:33:54,157 --> 00:33:55,533
which connects this space
869
00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:57,868
with the space of the sign back here.
870
00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,662
- A zoom shot, which connects that space
871
00:33:59,663 --> 00:34:00,788
with the space over here.
872
00:34:00,789 --> 00:34:01,789
Hold my glasses.
873
00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:05,168
- Okay?
874
00:34:05,169 --> 00:34:06,544
- Yeah.
875
00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:08,296
- Space of the street
876
00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:12,341
and this sign here.
877
00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:13,842
- Fairweather.
878
00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:15,094
The fashion store.
879
00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:17,096
- Doreen, stand up on the sign, okay?
880
00:34:17,097 --> 00:34:17,931
- Now what?
881
00:34:17,932 --> 00:34:20,308
- Like we're gonna shoot you up there.
882
00:34:21,935 --> 00:34:24,354
Ken? Can you move? Okay?
883
00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,982
- Okay, now get a shot...
884
00:34:27,983 --> 00:34:29,483
Now get a shot of Doreen,
885
00:34:29,484 --> 00:34:31,694
leaning through the bars there.
886
00:34:31,695 --> 00:34:34,697
- Doreen leaning through the bars?
887
00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:36,865
Tight or loose?
888
00:34:36,866 --> 00:34:38,867
- Whatever you think's better.
889
00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:40,579
I think fairly middle.
890
00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:43,582
Just a fairly general scene.
891
00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:49,879
Okay?
892
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,005
- Okay, I got it.
893
00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,757
- Now we're gonna move behind the bars.
894
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,009
- We're gonna move behind the bars.
895
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:56,719
- Yeah, get in the dark space there.
896
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,514
- Now you go first and
show me and I'll follow.
897
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:08,022
What?
898
00:35:08,023 --> 00:35:12,401
- We want a shot from about
here over to this tree trunk.
899
00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:15,237
Just get the nice little area in here,
900
00:35:15,238 --> 00:35:17,865
this little groove and pan up to there
901
00:35:17,866 --> 00:35:20,618
to get a feeling of the
sunlight and the leaves up high.
902
00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:22,287
- Sunlight and leaves up high. Okay.
903
00:35:23,163 --> 00:35:24,997
I'm gonna have to pull aperture on this,
904
00:35:24,998 --> 00:35:26,541
so it may not be...
905
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:31,670
An absolutely technically perfect shot.
906
00:35:31,671 --> 00:35:34,506
I'm also gonna have to take
the shoulder base camera
907
00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:35,800
off my shoulder.
908
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:45,310
- Somebody's standing
right in the frame there.
909
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,450
Now what?
910
00:36:01,451 --> 00:36:03,702
- Okay, now we wanna move
back and get a feeling
911
00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:06,538
of the outer space through these bars.
912
00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:09,458
- Outer space through these bars.
913
00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:11,044
- Work in the kids too.
914
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,712
- Work in the kids too.
915
00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:16,090
- Get the buses and
the traffic back there.
916
00:36:16,091 --> 00:36:17,966
- Buses and traffic.
917
00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:19,344
Who am I hitting?
918
00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:27,059
- We want some street noise too.
919
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:29,437
- And street noise. Get street noise.
920
00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:41,699
- That's about it unless
you want to return
921
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,992
to the little grove and
emphasize the idea that
922
00:36:43,993 --> 00:36:46,203
there's some beauty
here behind the street,
923
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:47,996
and the contrast between the city space
924
00:36:47,997 --> 00:36:48,957
and the space down here.
925
00:36:48,958 --> 00:36:51,250
- Do you still want the street?
926
00:36:51,251 --> 00:36:52,085
- No.
927
00:36:52,086 --> 00:36:53,210
- We better get this slated.
928
00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,629
- Okay, let's have a slate.
929
00:36:58,091 --> 00:37:00,134
- Take 106, roll 38.
930
00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:01,468
- There's a shot here we're supposed to...
931
00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:02,387
- Did you get your shot?
932
00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:03,221
- Yeah.
933
00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:04,513
Except if you want to finish it off
934
00:37:04,514 --> 00:37:07,141
with another shot of the greenery.
935
00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:08,767
- Another shot? I did one already.
936
00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:11,145
- Okay, fine. If you think that's enough.
937
00:37:11,146 --> 00:37:12,730
- If I think it's enough for what?
938
00:37:12,731 --> 00:37:14,857
- Well, you know, I just
wanna emphasize the fact
939
00:37:14,858 --> 00:37:16,608
that what's behind there
is totally different,
940
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:17,902
yet it's very close.
941
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:23,907
- You wanna do a pan shot then
from the street into here?
942
00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:24,784
- Yeah.
943
00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:25,618
- Pan shot.
944
00:37:25,619 --> 00:37:28,162
- Clear out of the way everybody.
945
00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:29,414
Watch out.
946
00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:35,794
Pan shot coming up.
947
00:37:35,795 --> 00:37:37,505
(Tires screeching)
948
00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:47,766
That's one stop underexposed in here.
949
00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:50,392
If you want it technically perfect,
950
00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:51,393
we'll have to get lights.
951
00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:52,436
- Okay, that's enough.
952
00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:55,522
- You want to get it
technically perfect with lights?
953
00:37:55,523 --> 00:37:56,523
- No.
954
00:37:57,192 --> 00:37:58,192
Okay.
955
00:37:59,152 --> 00:38:01,320
You got what you want, mort?
956
00:38:01,321 --> 00:38:02,447
- What I want.
957
00:38:03,573 --> 00:38:05,949
- That's the craziest shot
I've ever done in my life.
958
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:07,326
- Why?
959
00:38:07,327 --> 00:38:08,327
- Well, why didn't you tell them
960
00:38:08,328 --> 00:38:09,828
it's a crazy shot instead of doing it.
961
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:11,955
If you don't don't believe
in something, don't do it.
962
00:38:11,956 --> 00:38:13,582
- Crazy is not necessarily bad.
963
00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:14,417
It was fun.
964
00:38:14,418 --> 00:38:15,834
I kinda got out of my confusion
965
00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:18,670
by doing the very confused shot.
966
00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:20,089
(Laughter)
967
00:38:23,468 --> 00:38:25,594
- I'm sorry, I don't speak about anything
968
00:38:25,595 --> 00:38:27,971
that I don't know anything about,
969
00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:31,099
and Vietnam war I don't
know anything about.
970
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,353
- It's been going on for a whole year.
971
00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,730
For more than that.
972
00:38:36,731 --> 00:38:38,190
- Well, if it's been going on for years,
973
00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:40,735
I don't know how you
know so much about it.
974
00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:44,613
- I'm not pretending to know
a terrible amount about it,
975
00:38:44,614 --> 00:38:46,073
I just... I do feel involved
976
00:38:46,074 --> 00:38:48,575
in things I read in
the newspaper about it.
977
00:38:48,576 --> 00:38:52,080
Some of the reports I've
read about the casualties.
978
00:38:53,248 --> 00:38:56,209
I guess we've all seen some
of those horrible pictures,
979
00:38:57,377 --> 00:38:59,002
and you spoke of your group.
980
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:02,965
The eastern star is doing
a great deal of good work,
981
00:39:02,966 --> 00:39:05,259
and I thought this is another
area where you could do a lot
982
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:06,844
of good work and help people
983
00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:08,512
that are really in desperate need,
984
00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:09,389
people that are...
985
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:11,890
Crippled and burnt and
torn by war every day,
986
00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:15,353
while we're sitting here
and talking, it's happening.
987
00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:20,774
And you yourself said
war was a terrible thing.
988
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:22,776
Please tell me if you think I'm all off.
989
00:39:22,777 --> 00:39:26,363
I'm just... I feel a very,
very deep commitment,
990
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:27,656
a deep involvement,
991
00:39:27,657 --> 00:39:31,159
and I want to understand how
other people feel about it.
992
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,663
- You haven't gotten your head...
993
00:39:34,789 --> 00:39:35,998
- Are you angry at me?
994
00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:37,667
(Chatter)
995
00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:45,299
- Look, Tom.
996
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:47,551
- That point is this all has to cut in
997
00:39:47,552 --> 00:39:49,554
with you walking down the street,
998
00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:53,181
and these are things that you would see.
999
00:39:53,182 --> 00:39:54,808
Now do you think you
would see a ladybug or...
1000
00:39:54,809 --> 00:39:56,310
- Yeah, they always fly on me.
1001
00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:57,186
- Eh?
1002
00:39:57,187 --> 00:39:58,687
- If you turn on the camera,
1003
00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,815
minute detail is one of the
things you always notice.
1004
00:40:01,816 --> 00:40:03,317
- It seems logical to you?
1005
00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:05,193
Would you find one on the
street when you walk along?
1006
00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:06,945
- A lot of the time they fly onto you,
1007
00:40:06,946 --> 00:40:08,447
like you just walking along
and all of a sudden it's on.
1008
00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:09,907
- In the other shot,
you'll have to pretend
1009
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,450
that one flies onto you, right?
1010
00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,827
- Yeah, and I'll just look at it.
1011
00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:17,414
And you'll have me looking on
it then all of a sudden zoom.
1012
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:18,957
Like that can be the first shot.
1013
00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:20,208
Like I'll be walking down the street,
1014
00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,085
all of a sudden a ladybug will hit me,
1015
00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,587
and then I'll look at it,
1016
00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:26,840
and all of a sudden I'll
get kind of enmeshed
1017
00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:28,717
in just the ladybug.
1018
00:40:28,718 --> 00:40:30,571
And another shot coming
out 'cause when you come out
1019
00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:33,472
everything kind of spans right out.
1020
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:35,098
It's like coming from a little...
1021
00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:37,559
A different little world
into a whole new one.
1022
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,561
It's like rebirth almost,
just coming out of the alley.
1023
00:40:39,562 --> 00:40:40,604
- You better save the ladybug,
1024
00:40:40,605 --> 00:40:42,481
so you'll have it for the long shot.
1025
00:40:42,482 --> 00:40:45,609
- Yeah, we've been hanging
onto it for a long time.
1026
00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:48,988
Well, we gotta have Pilar playing herself
1027
00:40:49,948 --> 00:40:52,574
in the credits 'cause that's her name.
1028
00:40:52,575 --> 00:40:53,575
Okay?
1029
00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:56,370
I got a great idea for a fantasy,
1030
00:40:56,371 --> 00:40:58,497
like when I see the bug on my hand,
1031
00:40:58,498 --> 00:41:01,625
I look at it and then
there's a picture of me
1032
00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:04,753
leading about 50 ladybugs
and they're all reciting
1033
00:41:04,754 --> 00:41:07,631
Thomas my Shepherd, I shall not want.
1034
00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:08,633
- Take a look. Quick.
1035
00:41:11,761 --> 00:41:13,721
Turn your hand over. Turn your hand over.
1036
00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:28,903
(Chatter)
1037
00:41:29,779 --> 00:41:30,655
- Well, if you're not angry...
1038
00:41:30,656 --> 00:41:33,281
If I haven't insulted you personally,
1039
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,158
do you just think I'm being...
1040
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:36,743
- I think you're speaking about something
1041
00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:38,412
that you know nothing about
1042
00:41:38,413 --> 00:41:40,914
when you speak of Vietnam.
1043
00:41:40,915 --> 00:41:42,916
- Are you saying this
because you feel you know
1044
00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:44,668
more than me and I've made
some dreadful mistake?
1045
00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:46,128
- No, I don't know anything about Vietnam.
1046
00:41:46,129 --> 00:41:48,296
That's why I won't say
anything about Vietnam.
1047
00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:49,923
- My curiosity is why haven't you bothered
1048
00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:51,258
to learn more about it
1049
00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:54,177
when this is a war, and people are dying.
1050
00:41:54,178 --> 00:41:55,429
And if you feel it's awful,
1051
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:57,556
then why haven't you bothered
to learn more about it
1052
00:41:57,557 --> 00:41:59,307
and learn how you could help in it,
1053
00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:00,559
how you could learn to stop it,
1054
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,685
how you could help the people
1055
00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:03,937
that are being so terribly hurt?
1056
00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:07,774
- An individual like you
and I can't help Vietnam
1057
00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:10,277
when the American people themselves...
1058
00:42:10,278 --> 00:42:13,321
There's thousands of the
mothers in the United States
1059
00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:17,659
is trying to get this war
stopped and they can't.
1060
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:20,579
So why should we in Canada here
1061
00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:22,707
try and do anything about it?
1062
00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:27,335
- Well, ask Canadians to
produce a great many of the...
1063
00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:29,921
Well, I just think that more individuals
1064
00:42:29,922 --> 00:42:32,716
that get together on this thing, you know,
1065
00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:35,594
the greater the movement against Vietnam,
1066
00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:39,181
and you're not an individual.
You belong to a group.
1067
00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:40,974
- You're speaking about something that
1068
00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:42,809
you know nothing about, the same as I.
1069
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:44,604
I know nothing about Vietnam,
1070
00:42:45,605 --> 00:42:47,105
and you're only a child,
1071
00:42:47,106 --> 00:42:50,943
so I don't see how you can
know anything about Vietnam.
1072
00:42:53,112 --> 00:42:55,697
- Switch now because we shot so much.
1073
00:42:55,698 --> 00:42:57,200
- We lost the bug.
1074
00:42:59,202 --> 00:43:00,745
- You lost the bug?
1075
00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:03,872
- That's the first law.
1076
00:43:03,873 --> 00:43:05,958
- Hey, maybe we can
find it with this thing.
1077
00:43:06,876 --> 00:43:07,876
- Don't step on it.
1078
00:43:07,877 --> 00:43:08,753
- Bug.
1079
00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:09,587
- Don't step on it.
1080
00:43:09,588 --> 00:43:11,713
- Pilar.
1081
00:43:11,714 --> 00:43:14,007
- Do you think you can do
your sequence without the bug?
1082
00:43:14,008 --> 00:43:14,884
- Pilar.
1083
00:43:14,885 --> 00:43:16,134
- We gotta find the bug though.
1084
00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:17,011
- Careful!
1085
00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:17,845
- Then I could kind of think...
1086
00:43:17,846 --> 00:43:20,514
- Careful! We can't shoot
the scene without that bug.
1087
00:43:20,515 --> 00:43:21,641
(Laughs)
1088
00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:24,977
- Bugs are a necessary part of life.
1089
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,147
You should feed it. It looks...
1090
00:43:30,858 --> 00:43:32,651
You can't even find it with this thing.
1091
00:43:32,652 --> 00:43:33,902
This is hopeless.
1092
00:43:33,903 --> 00:43:34,862
- You know what it does?
1093
00:43:34,863 --> 00:43:36,404
It gets under a whole pile of grass,
1094
00:43:36,405 --> 00:43:37,739
like it was doing that over there,
1095
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:40,784
but I always knew what
area it was in before.
1096
00:43:40,785 --> 00:43:43,037
The wind just blew it off right...
1097
00:43:45,999 --> 00:43:47,541
- Okay, what about this...
1098
00:43:47,542 --> 00:43:48,542
- Well, that's what I hate.
1099
00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:49,543
It's about the whole thing.
1100
00:43:49,544 --> 00:43:51,670
You constantly have to
be on the move, you know,
1101
00:43:51,671 --> 00:43:53,505
or you're dead. I mean, like,
1102
00:43:53,506 --> 00:43:55,173
that's connected with yorkville.
People...
1103
00:43:55,174 --> 00:43:57,634
They can't stand people just
sitting there doing nothing,
1104
00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:00,011
you know, like freeways
are the same thing.
1105
00:44:00,012 --> 00:44:02,180
The whole america and Canada
1106
00:44:02,181 --> 00:44:04,891
are geared toward moving places
1107
00:44:04,892 --> 00:44:06,184
and there's no place to go.
1108
00:44:06,185 --> 00:44:08,937
Expressways are going through,
knocking down buildings,
1109
00:44:08,938 --> 00:44:09,772
you know?
1110
00:44:09,773 --> 00:44:13,650
I mean, it's becoming
part of a mobile culture.
1111
00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:14,693
You know, like this thing,
1112
00:44:14,694 --> 00:44:17,529
this drive-in restaurant,
drive-in banks,
1113
00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:21,575
drive-in drive-ins, you know,
to make out in, constant...
1114
00:44:21,576 --> 00:44:24,202
I mean, pretty soon people
will be having babies in cars,
1115
00:44:24,203 --> 00:44:26,204
getting buried in cars,
we're gonna have to
1116
00:44:26,205 --> 00:44:29,082
have floating cemeteries with, you know,
1117
00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:31,585
corpses constantly on the move.
1118
00:44:31,586 --> 00:44:33,712
And so we're gonna get like
that until finally just,
1119
00:44:33,713 --> 00:44:36,173
you know, you're gonna be very lucky
1120
00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:38,967
if you can sit still for a second.
1121
00:44:38,968 --> 00:44:40,468
(Crew laughing)
1122
00:44:40,469 --> 00:44:41,345
That's it.
1123
00:44:41,346 --> 00:44:42,930
- Isn't that great.
1124
00:44:45,433 --> 00:44:46,433
- That's terrific.
1125
00:44:46,434 --> 00:44:47,310
Okay.
1126
00:44:47,311 --> 00:44:48,935
(Chanting)
1127
00:44:48,936 --> 00:44:53,481
- Close our street! Close
our street! Close our street!
1128
00:44:53,482 --> 00:44:55,859
Close our street! Close our street!
1129
00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:57,361
(Chanting continues)
1130
00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:06,369
You may question tomorrow's rain,
1131
00:45:06,370 --> 00:45:11,375
but your questions
will only bring pain.
1132
00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:15,128
Father,
1133
00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:19,633
shadow of light
1134
00:45:19,634 --> 00:45:22,011
in my schemes
1135
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,264
- now we've always had
some rebellious youth.
1136
00:45:26,265 --> 00:45:28,266
Nobody's against the fun
and games of kids
1137
00:45:28,267 --> 00:45:29,517
who want to have fun.
1138
00:45:29,518 --> 00:45:32,270
But remember, they've
gotta cooperate with that
1139
00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:34,105
that is going to permit us to eat
1140
00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:36,483
and sleep along with the decent people.
1141
00:45:36,484 --> 00:45:40,904
You still play with power
1142
00:45:40,905 --> 00:45:44,867
the shortest your hour
1143
00:45:45,534 --> 00:45:48,536
moving on
1144
00:45:48,537 --> 00:45:51,415
since time began
1145
00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:57,545
(crowd clapping)
1146
00:45:57,546 --> 00:45:59,130
(Police radio chatter)
1147
00:45:59,131 --> 00:46:01,883
(Crowd clapping)
1148
00:46:01,884 --> 00:46:05,804
(Crowd whistling and shouting)
1149
00:46:05,805 --> 00:46:08,515
(Crowd clapping)
1150
00:46:08,516 --> 00:46:11,142
(Crowd yelling)
1151
00:46:11,143 --> 00:46:13,896
(Crowd cheering)
1152
00:46:17,066 --> 00:46:19,693
(Whistling)
1153
00:46:19,694 --> 00:46:22,779
(Crowd yelling)
1154
00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:26,950
(Whistling and chaotic chattering)
1155
00:46:26,951 --> 00:46:28,827
(Police radio chatter)
1156
00:46:28,828 --> 00:46:30,829
Funny how
1157
00:46:30,830 --> 00:46:32,956
(crowd yelling)
1158
00:46:32,957 --> 00:46:34,582
Some people
1159
00:46:34,583 --> 00:46:35,959
(crowd yelling)
1160
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,919
Just
1161
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,420
(crowd yelling)
1162
00:46:38,421 --> 00:46:39,338
Can't
1163
00:46:39,339 --> 00:46:40,339
(crowd yelling)
1164
00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:41,340
Grow
1165
00:46:41,341 --> 00:46:43,091
(crowd yelling)
1166
00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:44,718
Old
1167
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,723
(chaotic whistling and yelling)
1168
00:46:50,182 --> 00:46:52,851
- Do you believe in democracy?
- Let me put it this way.
1169
00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:53,686
- I don't...
1170
00:46:53,687 --> 00:46:55,312
- Do you believe in democracy?
1171
00:46:55,313 --> 00:46:57,981
- I haven't answered that
question for myself yet.
1172
00:46:57,982 --> 00:47:00,942
- Well, what do you believe?
- In what system do you believe?
1173
00:47:00,943 --> 00:47:02,235
- In the political system?
- I don't know.
1174
00:47:02,236 --> 00:47:03,486
I don't believe in politics.
1175
00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:04,738
- You don't believe in politics?
1176
00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:05,573
- No.
1177
00:47:05,574 --> 00:47:09,075
I might someday, but I'm
trying to figure it out.
1178
00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:10,744
- I don't believe in a lot of politicians.
1179
00:47:10,745 --> 00:47:13,621
I agree with you there, but
there must be some system.
1180
00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:15,874
There must be laws. Is
this direct, or not?
1181
00:47:15,875 --> 00:47:17,334
- I even challenge that.
1182
00:47:17,335 --> 00:47:18,877
- You challenge that in as much,
1183
00:47:18,878 --> 00:47:23,757
there should be police to
uphold these laws or not?
1184
00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:26,760
- Well, maybe we could find
a way to live without police.
1185
00:47:26,761 --> 00:47:28,261
Maybe it's possible.
1186
00:47:28,262 --> 00:47:30,388
- Well, you gotta have a lot of love buddy,
1187
00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:31,389
to believe this.
1188
00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:32,350
- That's what we talk about.
1189
00:47:32,351 --> 00:47:33,892
- You take all the cops off the street
1190
00:47:33,893 --> 00:47:35,143
of this city for one week,
1191
00:47:35,144 --> 00:47:36,269
what are you thinking gonna happen?
1192
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:38,229
- Haven't you heard about flower power?
1193
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:41,900
- Mmm, Jesus Christ. I come
from a flower town of Canada,
1194
00:47:41,901 --> 00:47:43,151
you know, Brampton.
1195
00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:45,653
And if ever you took that
little police force off
1196
00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:47,864
the streets in Brampton
for one weekend,
1197
00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:49,532
you know what'd happened to you?
1198
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:53,495
Eh? She wouldn't be a
flower town no more boy.
1199
00:47:53,496 --> 00:47:54,288
- Well,
1200
00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:55,247
- huh?
1201
00:47:55,248 --> 00:47:58,166
- Why not fix the cause of that? I mean,
1202
00:47:58,167 --> 00:48:00,044
what's the cause of all that violence?
1203
00:48:01,379 --> 00:48:02,796
Isn't the cause of all that violence,
1204
00:48:02,797 --> 00:48:03,756
the barracks that you created
1205
00:48:03,757 --> 00:48:06,508
and people jumping up and
down when they're told to?
1206
00:48:06,509 --> 00:48:09,636
- You do come up with
some real questions, boy,
1207
00:48:09,637 --> 00:48:11,054
silly ones, really.
1208
00:48:11,055 --> 00:48:12,931
You're not even facing fact.
1209
00:48:12,932 --> 00:48:14,141
- Why is it silly?
1210
00:48:14,308 --> 00:48:15,184
What's the fact.
1211
00:48:15,185 --> 00:48:17,560
- The fact is that we're human beings.
1212
00:48:17,561 --> 00:48:18,561
Okay?
1213
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:21,315
And we don't all love each other.
1214
00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:46,923
(Ambient chatter)
1215
00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:50,594
Christopher's movie
1216
00:48:53,681 --> 00:48:57,351
matinee
1217
00:49:00,312 --> 00:49:01,563
two, three, four
1218
00:49:01,564 --> 00:49:03,982
we're going on our holiday
1219
00:49:03,983 --> 00:49:05,066
whoop-Dee-doo
1220
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:07,360
going somewhere far away
1221
00:49:07,361 --> 00:49:08,570
whoop-Dee-doo
1222
00:49:08,571 --> 00:49:11,114
I don't like the cold anyway
1223
00:49:11,115 --> 00:49:12,240
whoop-Dee-doo
1224
00:49:12,241 --> 00:49:14,701
need a little warmth every day
1225
00:49:14,702 --> 00:49:15,869
whoop-Dee-doo
1226
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:20,875
and I, if it's all right
1227
00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:22,876
the rain is falling
1228
00:49:22,877 --> 00:49:24,752
the month is June
1229
00:49:24,753 --> 00:49:29,758
I'm so jive I can't resist
a spoon of your sugar
1230
00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:33,636
to sweeten the mood
1231
00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:36,222
come let's make our getaway
1232
00:49:36,223 --> 00:49:37,265
whoop-Dee-doo
1233
00:49:37,266 --> 00:49:39,726
we can't last another day
1234
00:49:39,727 --> 00:49:40,727
whoop-Dee-doo
1235
00:49:40,728 --> 00:49:43,271
survival is the only way
1236
00:49:43,272 --> 00:49:44,272
whoop-Dee-doo
1237
00:49:44,273 --> 00:49:46,649
let's go for a holiday
1238
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,359
whoop-Dee-doo
1239
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,028
by the way
1240
00:49:50,029 --> 00:49:53,406
we'll leave today
1241
00:49:53,407 --> 00:49:58,412
(upbeat folk rock)
1242
00:50:06,253 --> 00:50:09,048
Be sure to bring your mandolin
1243
00:50:09,882 --> 00:50:12,550
we've got to keep our handle in
1244
00:50:12,551 --> 00:50:14,677
the pot
1245
00:50:14,678 --> 00:50:18,056
which, after all, is hot
1246
00:50:18,057 --> 00:50:20,767
see the box we're finally in
1247
00:50:20,768 --> 00:50:22,435
whoop-Dee-doo
1248
00:50:22,436 --> 00:50:24,521
laughing Greeks to lift a grin
1249
00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:25,897
whoop-Dee-doo
1250
00:50:25,898 --> 00:50:27,941
if you think this means we can win
1251
00:50:27,942 --> 00:50:29,025
whoop-Dee-doo
1252
00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,402
maybe it's where we came in
1253
00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:32,403
whoop-Dee-doo
1254
00:50:32,404 --> 00:50:34,656
goodbye, arrivederci
1255
00:50:34,657 --> 00:50:37,033
goodbye
1256
00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,577
morning, watts, broadcasting from...
1257
00:50:39,578 --> 00:50:41,580
Matinee
1258
00:50:44,833 --> 00:50:48,086
(applause)
1259
00:50:48,087 --> 00:50:51,298
(Groovy music begins)
1260
00:51:24,832 --> 00:51:29,253
(Groovy music continues
with crowd chattering)
1261
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:50,833
(Groovy music fades)
1262
00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:53,711
(Crowd applauding)
1263
00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:56,089
- We had to sit-in on
yorkville last night,
1264
00:52:56,090 --> 00:52:59,468
several people got busted, including me.
1265
00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:03,221
Last Thursday, we went down
1266
00:53:03,222 --> 00:53:06,349
and we talked to the board of
control in this city of ours.
1267
00:53:06,350 --> 00:53:08,434
And we told them a lot of
things about who we are
1268
00:53:08,435 --> 00:53:09,353
and what we wanted to see
1269
00:53:09,354 --> 00:53:10,812
and what kind of a nice place we wanted
1270
00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:13,065
to see this city turn into.
1271
00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:16,484
And one thing we asked was,
1272
00:53:16,485 --> 00:53:20,613
"why don't you try closing
down our street? You know?"
1273
00:53:20,614 --> 00:53:24,325
And they said, "no, man, we can't do that."
1274
00:53:24,326 --> 00:53:27,830
We said, "why?"
And they didn't really know.
1275
00:53:29,123 --> 00:53:32,375
And that's what the thing
last night was all about.
1276
00:53:32,376 --> 00:53:34,335
- I was just wondering
what the possibilities
1277
00:53:34,336 --> 00:53:36,462
were of getting a
copy of that tape...
1278
00:53:36,463 --> 00:53:37,256
- What tape?
1279
00:53:37,257 --> 00:53:40,216
- Well, would you not have this all taped,
1280
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,759
when they were taking the film?
1281
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,636
- Oh, yes.
1282
00:53:42,637 --> 00:53:44,387
Shooting it, sure, yes.
1283
00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:47,765
- The, particularly, the speeches by depoe
1284
00:53:47,766 --> 00:53:50,268
and, that gal I'd like to get...
1285
00:53:50,269 --> 00:53:52,103
- Oh, why would you want that?
1286
00:53:52,104 --> 00:53:55,106
- I'd like to hear it
over again, that's all.
1287
00:53:55,107 --> 00:53:56,899
- Oh, but we can't do that.
1288
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:57,900
Do you think, well,
1289
00:53:57,901 --> 00:54:01,112
do you think it would be fair
taping somebody without their...
1290
00:54:01,113 --> 00:54:03,865
You know, knowing that
it's gonna get to you or...
1291
00:54:03,866 --> 00:54:05,241
- Well, this is possible.
1292
00:54:05,242 --> 00:54:07,994
I just asked. If you don't want to...
1293
00:54:07,995 --> 00:54:09,912
- Well, as I say, I don't
think it's very fair.
1294
00:54:09,913 --> 00:54:12,123
Do you, inspector?
1295
00:54:12,124 --> 00:54:14,542
- Well, I hadn't thought
of it along those lines.
1296
00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:17,170
It might be.
And that they were talking.
1297
00:54:17,171 --> 00:54:19,423
I mean, we have most of the...
1298
00:54:21,383 --> 00:54:24,510
I have no stuff verbatim anyway,
but it's just that I heard,
1299
00:54:24,511 --> 00:54:26,554
but it's quite all right.
1300
00:54:26,555 --> 00:54:28,431
- People talk a great deal about
1301
00:54:28,432 --> 00:54:30,183
the whole big brother thing,
1302
00:54:30,184 --> 00:54:32,059
and I always tend to disbelieve it.
1303
00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:35,813
And that's why it surprises me
that you would want to take...
1304
00:54:35,814 --> 00:54:36,939
- It was just a thought,
that's all.
1305
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:39,275
- Since they didn't know that we'd
1306
00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:40,526
be giving it to you.
1307
00:54:40,527 --> 00:54:41,320
- This is true.
1308
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,196
- It'd be kind of unfair.
1309
00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:43,030
- Oh, okay.
1310
00:54:43,031 --> 00:54:44,822
I can see your point.
1311
00:54:44,823 --> 00:54:45,699
- Yeah.
1312
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:47,074
What did you think of the...
1313
00:54:47,075 --> 00:54:48,451
- Oh, it was...
1314
00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:51,830
It was an afternoon's
entertainment for them.
1315
00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:55,666
- Did it give you any trouble
of any kind. Did it?
1316
00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:57,710
- No, no problems to us.
1317
00:54:57,711 --> 00:54:59,587
Same as the last one they had here.
1318
00:54:59,588 --> 00:55:01,297
They had a much larger crowd
1319
00:55:01,298 --> 00:55:04,343
the last time they were here.
No problems with it.
1320
00:55:05,594 --> 00:55:08,221
- Oh, I understood the
police weren't very favorable
1321
00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:11,098
towards this kind of a gathering.
1322
00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:13,100
- I wouldn't say we weren't
favorable towards it.
1323
00:55:13,101 --> 00:55:14,727
We get a little apprehensive at times
1324
00:55:14,728 --> 00:55:16,479
when we know what has happened
1325
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,106
in some places over these things.
1326
00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:21,984
We just like to keep our finger
on the holster of things.
1327
00:55:21,985 --> 00:55:22,985
You know?
1328
00:55:25,864 --> 00:55:26,490
- I see.
1329
00:55:26,491 --> 00:55:27,865
- We don't really get too concerned.
1330
00:55:27,866 --> 00:55:29,992
We only had about three
men here this afternoon,
1331
00:55:29,993 --> 00:55:33,204
and if we were that worried about it,
we'd have probably had more.
1332
00:55:33,205 --> 00:55:34,747
- Oh, I thought I saw
more police than that.
1333
00:55:34,748 --> 00:55:36,207
Or were they from a
different department or...
1334
00:55:36,208 --> 00:55:38,501
- No, no. In the park
here had about three
1335
00:55:38,502 --> 00:55:40,879
and myself and the patrol sergeant.
1336
00:55:42,214 --> 00:55:44,882
- I see. How did you hear about it?
- Through the publicity or...
1337
00:55:44,883 --> 00:55:45,884
- No...
1338
00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:49,136
Well, we did read about it
in the newspaper, of course.
1339
00:55:49,137 --> 00:55:49,972
- I see.
1340
00:55:49,972 --> 00:55:50,848
- It was publicized there.
1341
00:55:50,849 --> 00:55:52,723
Of course, any time there's a permit...
1342
00:55:52,724 --> 00:55:53,642
- Oh, yes.
1343
00:55:53,643 --> 00:55:55,853
- These kind of things, of course we...
1344
00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:57,645
- I see.
1345
00:55:59,606 --> 00:56:01,274
Well, I hope you enjoy...
1346
00:56:01,275 --> 00:56:02,358
- Oh, how are you?
1347
00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:03,151
- Very well, sir.
1348
00:56:03,152 --> 00:56:04,277
- Your face looks familiar.
1349
00:56:04,278 --> 00:56:06,529
- It shouldn't unless
you just saw it today.
1350
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:07,530
I'm from Illinois.
1351
00:56:07,531 --> 00:56:08,365
- Oh, are you?
1352
00:56:08,366 --> 00:56:10,366
- So I'm a long way out.
- Away from home.
1353
00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:13,912
- I was thinking of what's his name.
- Reverend...
1354
00:56:15,163 --> 00:56:16,290
He has a radio program,
1355
00:56:16,456 --> 00:56:18,040
and I've seen his picture in the paper.
1356
00:56:18,041 --> 00:56:18,876
- Oh.
1357
00:56:18,877 --> 00:56:20,919
- And I thought you were he...
1358
00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:24,422
- What did you think of the
afternoon's proceedings?
1359
00:56:24,423 --> 00:56:26,674
- I was here for about an hour and a half
1360
00:56:26,675 --> 00:56:31,930
and I talked with several of the
persons who were involved and I...
1361
00:56:32,931 --> 00:56:35,767
I thought it was very interesting.
1362
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:38,019
I don't, I don't really,
1363
00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:40,438
I'm not in a position to
make a judgment particularly
1364
00:56:40,439 --> 00:56:42,064
because it's my first contact with,
1365
00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:45,192
with the whole movement, this closely,
1366
00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:47,654
with this, this bigger number...
1367
00:56:49,907 --> 00:56:51,282
Then in the states, actually
1368
00:56:51,283 --> 00:56:53,702
it's limited to certain areas,
1369
00:56:54,953 --> 00:56:58,581
and there is none around
where I come from,
1370
00:56:58,582 --> 00:57:00,708
which is the St. Louis area.
1371
00:57:00,709 --> 00:57:01,709
- I see.
1372
00:57:03,962 --> 00:57:06,089
- My brother lives in St. Louis.
1373
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:09,343
I go down there periodically, visit him,
1374
00:57:10,344 --> 00:57:12,721
nothing going on like this out there.
1375
00:57:12,888 --> 00:57:13,847
- No, nothing.
1376
00:57:13,848 --> 00:57:16,724
- Maybe down in gaslight square,
we might see the odd one.
1377
00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:17,725
- A few.
1378
00:57:17,768 --> 00:57:19,353
They're scattered,
1379
00:57:20,479 --> 00:57:21,979
there's no community.
1380
00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:22,814
- Yeah, okay.
1381
00:57:22,814 --> 00:57:23,607
- See you again.
1382
00:57:23,607 --> 00:57:24,483
- Nice meeting you.
1383
00:57:24,483 --> 00:57:25,317
- Yeah, nice meeting you.
1384
00:57:25,318 --> 00:57:27,194
- Bye, sir.
1385
00:57:29,488 --> 00:57:31,990
(Folk rock music)
1386
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,747
Away we go
1387
00:57:39,748 --> 00:57:41,958
laughing
1388
00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:45,878
falling down the street.
1389
00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:49,882
Should we be crying?
1390
00:57:49,883 --> 00:57:54,136
Like all the people we meet
1391
00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:58,391
bubble gum's for chewing
1392
00:57:58,392 --> 00:58:02,019
and I'm chewing mine
1393
00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:05,648
I really love to chew gum
1394
00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:09,736
I do it all the time
1395
00:58:10,988 --> 00:58:12,364
who are you?
1396
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,033
Who am I?
1397
00:58:15,242 --> 00:58:17,786
Do you want to laugh or cry?
1398
00:58:18,912 --> 00:58:21,873
It doesn't matter what you do
1399
00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:25,002
what's in a name
1400
00:58:30,132 --> 00:58:33,427
Swimming in the pool
1401
00:58:34,553 --> 00:58:37,555
people want to throw them out
1402
00:58:37,556 --> 00:58:41,308
but I think they're cool
1403
00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:46,189
(folk rock instrumental)
1404
00:58:56,658 --> 00:59:00,661
Away we go laughing
1405
00:59:00,662 --> 00:59:05,207
falling down the street
1406
00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,461
should we be crying?
1407
00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:13,049
Like all the people we meet
1408
00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:15,342
who are you?
1409
00:59:15,343 --> 00:59:17,845
Who am I?
1410
00:59:17,846 --> 00:59:21,182
Do you want to laugh or cry?
1411
00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:24,852
It doesn't matter what you do
1412
00:59:24,853 --> 00:59:28,105
what's in a name?
1413
00:59:28,106 --> 00:59:30,233
Without
1414
00:59:35,113 --> 00:59:37,198
- all right, all right, don't push.
1415
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:40,327
(Chatter)
1416
01:00:00,013 --> 01:00:01,765
(Desk slamming)
1417
01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:13,526
(Coughing)
1418
01:00:13,527 --> 01:00:17,364
(Chatter)
1419
01:00:18,615 --> 01:00:19,908
- Where's the teach?
1420
01:00:20,158 --> 01:00:21,118
(Laughter)
1421
01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:21,910
- Yeah.
1422
01:00:21,911 --> 01:00:23,536
- They usually do most of the talking.
1423
01:00:23,537 --> 01:00:26,038
- All right, class. Settle down.
1424
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:27,665
(Laughter)
1425
01:00:27,666 --> 01:00:28,542
- Okay, you can teach.
1426
01:00:28,543 --> 01:00:29,792
- Can I be teacher?
1427
01:00:29,793 --> 01:00:30,918
- Yeah, you be teacher.
1428
01:00:30,919 --> 01:00:32,294
- Put your hat on.
1429
01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:34,673
(Laughter)
1430
01:00:44,808 --> 01:00:46,685
- All right, listen up...
1431
01:00:50,397 --> 01:00:52,941
(Laughter)
1432
01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:55,569
Now...
1433
01:00:55,570 --> 01:00:58,320
Today we're beginning a
whole new... whole new year.
1434
01:00:58,321 --> 01:01:00,322
Today we're not going to do anything.
1435
01:01:00,323 --> 01:01:03,033
We're just going to
get to know each other.
1436
01:01:03,034 --> 01:01:04,286
Well, tomorrow...
1437
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,079
Young lady...
1438
01:01:11,084 --> 01:01:12,169
(Laughter)
1439
01:01:14,421 --> 01:01:16,714
There are certain rules and regulations,
1440
01:01:16,715 --> 01:01:18,424
which must be observed.
1441
01:01:18,425 --> 01:01:20,593
I mean, I don't make the rules.
1442
01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:21,802
Now this year, and some other years,
1443
01:01:21,803 --> 01:01:24,472
you may have had
difficulties with discipline.
1444
01:01:25,473 --> 01:01:26,873
Now, I'm not a hard disciplinarian,
1445
01:01:27,934 --> 01:01:29,226
but when I want to have something done,
1446
01:01:29,227 --> 01:01:31,061
I expect to have it done.
1447
01:01:31,062 --> 01:01:31,980
(Laughter)
1448
01:01:31,980 --> 01:01:32,856
Now you treat me like an adult
1449
01:01:32,857 --> 01:01:35,065
and I'll treat you like adults...
1450
01:01:35,066 --> 01:01:37,985
Which is completely untrue because
1451
01:01:37,986 --> 01:01:41,865
you treat him like god and
he treats you like some kids.
1452
01:01:42,991 --> 01:01:46,493
- Oh, I had a teacher who
said first day school...
1453
01:01:46,494 --> 01:01:48,245
- Classrooms are a drag.
1454
01:01:48,246 --> 01:01:50,999
(Laughs)
1455
01:01:53,752 --> 01:01:55,878
- Have you ever seen some of
the signs they put in the back?
1456
01:01:55,879 --> 01:01:57,713
Like "learning is earning."
1457
01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,715
- Well, let's get down to the facts.
1458
01:01:59,716 --> 01:02:03,093
What we're talking about
is isolated little cases.
1459
01:02:03,094 --> 01:02:04,887
Like the things on the back.
1460
01:02:04,888 --> 01:02:07,723
What about discussing
the educational system?
1461
01:02:07,724 --> 01:02:09,391
Instead of just the...
1462
01:02:09,392 --> 01:02:10,268
- That's a trouble, you see,
1463
01:02:10,269 --> 01:02:12,270
it's the system.
1464
01:02:12,646 --> 01:02:14,897
- Before we start,
I'd like to make a point.
1465
01:02:14,898 --> 01:02:16,607
The teacher should
have a better attitude.
1466
01:02:16,608 --> 01:02:18,400
The whole thing should be more relaxed.
1467
01:02:18,401 --> 01:02:20,986
I mean, we don't like it
and they don't like it.
1468
01:02:20,987 --> 01:02:22,529
- Yeah. That's right.
1469
01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:25,241
- Like most kids have dropped
out of school completely.
1470
01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,242
- You mean they're dropped out
1471
01:02:26,243 --> 01:02:27,409
and they're still sitting in their desks.
1472
01:02:27,410 --> 01:02:28,245
- Oh yeah.
1473
01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:29,037
- I did that last year.
1474
01:02:29,037 --> 01:02:29,871
- So did I.
1475
01:02:29,872 --> 01:02:30,913
- I, you have to do it.
1476
01:02:30,914 --> 01:02:32,873
There's no way that you can be...
1477
01:02:32,874 --> 01:02:34,166
- Not no way.
1478
01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:36,293
- You people are still buggered
up with the system though.
1479
01:02:36,294 --> 01:02:39,004
McLuhan was talking about,
I think it was socrates.
1480
01:02:39,005 --> 01:02:42,049
And he spent all his time
looking for the perfect school,
1481
01:02:42,050 --> 01:02:43,050
and he didn't realize that he
1482
01:02:43,051 --> 01:02:44,510
and his pupils were living right in it.
1483
01:02:44,511 --> 01:02:46,053
They were living in Athens.
1484
01:02:46,054 --> 01:02:50,182
What greater city... to get
an education in than Athens?
1485
01:02:50,183 --> 01:02:52,559
And the point is that the
world is the best teacher
1486
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,061
and that if kids want to learn,
1487
01:02:54,062 --> 01:02:56,188
they should darn well go out
and find themselves a teacher.
1488
01:02:56,189 --> 01:02:57,273
They should go to the teacher.
1489
01:02:57,274 --> 01:02:58,565
They shouldn't have to
have come to school.
1490
01:02:58,566 --> 01:03:00,693
They shouldn't have to have any education
1491
01:03:00,694 --> 01:03:02,695
because kids are natural learners.
1492
01:03:02,696 --> 01:03:03,779
- Of course, there's a lot of people
1493
01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:04,698
that just fall right into it,
1494
01:03:04,699 --> 01:03:06,073
and they really couldn't give a damn.
1495
01:03:06,074 --> 01:03:07,199
You know that, you know there's...
1496
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,560
- That's what I was talking about.
1497
01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:13,205
It's harder without regimentation,
1498
01:03:13,206 --> 01:03:14,540
that's for sure,
1499
01:03:14,541 --> 01:03:16,292
and all these progressive systems,
1500
01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,961
the kids say they want a
progressive system, but it's much,
1501
01:03:18,962 --> 01:03:21,673
much harder because they have
to do the work themselves.
1502
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:23,425
- You heard of summerhill?
1503
01:03:23,426 --> 01:03:24,967
You know that school
where the kids all live.
1504
01:03:24,968 --> 01:03:25,802
- Yeah.
1505
01:03:25,803 --> 01:03:27,344
- And some of them are really
frightened by their freedom
1506
01:03:27,345 --> 01:03:28,345
that they're given...
1507
01:03:28,346 --> 01:03:29,222
- Yeah.
1508
01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:30,056
They don't know what to do with it
1509
01:03:30,057 --> 01:03:31,598
now because they've never been prepared.
1510
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,684
The parents always say
that we're preparing you
1511
01:03:33,685 --> 01:03:34,727
for the world.
1512
01:03:34,728 --> 01:03:36,186
But the thing is, it's such a...
1513
01:03:36,187 --> 01:03:38,480
It's such a circle and
that if they prepare us
1514
01:03:38,481 --> 01:03:39,940
for the world as it is...
1515
01:03:39,941 --> 01:03:41,358
How are we gonna change it?
1516
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:42,568
- I feel like we are the world.
1517
01:03:42,569 --> 01:03:43,736
- That's right.
1518
01:03:43,737 --> 01:03:45,863
- It's so fake because it's not
the real world in here.
1519
01:03:45,864 --> 01:03:46,989
It's some sort of...
1520
01:03:46,990 --> 01:03:47,824
- Yeah...
1521
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:48,616
- It's, it's a created...
1522
01:03:48,617 --> 01:03:49,867
- It's a gray ivory tower...
1523
01:03:49,868 --> 01:03:52,619
- So we can change it, if
only we're taught to...
1524
01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:56,123
Realize our freedom, and they give...
1525
01:03:56,124 --> 01:03:59,251
They give us this crap about
the great Democratic society,
1526
01:03:59,252 --> 01:04:01,712
and the great freedom we
have, when there is...
1527
01:04:01,713 --> 01:04:03,005
So little freedom
1528
01:04:03,006 --> 01:04:06,216
because of the small
dictatorships and business.
1529
01:04:06,217 --> 01:04:07,843
- What's an education?
1530
01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:10,137
- An education for me
is not what I'm getting.
1531
01:04:10,138 --> 01:04:11,638
An education is, I mean,
1532
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:13,098
not what I'm getting in a classroom,
1533
01:04:13,099 --> 01:04:14,391
but I'm getting a tremendous education
1534
01:04:14,392 --> 01:04:16,852
just by going to school and
meeting all these people.
1535
01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:18,479
- Why do we have to
go to school to talk?
1536
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,855
- You know cause our vice principal,
1537
01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:21,982
he walks around the halls, the
first three days of school,
1538
01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,776
telling everybody to get a haircut,
1539
01:04:23,777 --> 01:04:24,777
and this guy's, you know,
1540
01:04:24,778 --> 01:04:27,363
earning $12,000 a year
and that's his job.
1541
01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:29,656
- Like the principal was
having a talk with me
1542
01:04:29,657 --> 01:04:31,867
and... he said, "get your hair cut,
1543
01:04:31,868 --> 01:04:34,119
'cause you won't be accepted
by society with long hair."
1544
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,913
And I said, "well, the way society is now,
1545
01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:37,915
I don't really want to be accepted by it."
1546
01:04:37,916 --> 01:04:39,541
And he wouldn't let me go to class
1547
01:04:39,542 --> 01:04:41,502
until my attitude changed.
1548
01:04:41,503 --> 01:04:43,670
And that to me is the whole school system.
1549
01:04:43,671 --> 01:04:46,006
- Like a lot of people, they
begin thinking like that,
1550
01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:48,675
and then they get all
worried about the long hair
1551
01:04:48,676 --> 01:04:52,930
and the long hair becomes
more important than learning.
1552
01:04:52,931 --> 01:04:53,681
- That's right.
1553
01:04:53,682 --> 01:04:55,766
- You know that, I mean, sure,
1554
01:04:55,767 --> 01:04:57,810
it's a ridiculous thing,
1555
01:04:57,811 --> 01:05:01,188
but it's not nearly as
important as learning.
1556
01:05:01,189 --> 01:05:02,815
- Yeah, they're in a transition period
1557
01:05:02,816 --> 01:05:04,316
where there's not enough disciplines
1558
01:05:04,317 --> 01:05:05,943
that you're forced, you know...
1559
01:05:05,944 --> 01:05:08,529
You have to respect them or get beat up.
1560
01:05:08,530 --> 01:05:10,823
- We should do something
while we're in school
1561
01:05:10,824 --> 01:05:13,200
'cause, I mean, it'd be nice
to have it changed later,
1562
01:05:13,201 --> 01:05:15,202
but I want to change now
so I don't have to throw
1563
01:05:15,203 --> 01:05:17,454
my years away 'cause it's kind of
1564
01:05:17,455 --> 01:05:19,415
almost a survival thing.
1565
01:05:19,416 --> 01:05:21,083
(Chatter)
1566
01:05:21,084 --> 01:05:22,043
Yeah, I will.
1567
01:05:22,044 --> 01:05:23,585
I'm trying. I'm gonna run for president.
1568
01:05:23,586 --> 01:05:25,672
I'm really gonna try to start
something, honestly.
1569
01:05:27,215 --> 01:05:29,068
I mean, I'm gonna have
things like general meetings
1570
01:05:29,092 --> 01:05:30,092
of the whole and not after school.
1571
01:05:30,093 --> 01:05:31,218
I mean during the school,
1572
01:05:31,219 --> 01:05:33,095
so we miss half an hour of Latin class.
1573
01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:35,931
So what? It's not gonna
influence our lives.
1574
01:05:35,932 --> 01:05:37,724
A child at three or four is the...
1575
01:05:37,725 --> 01:05:41,563
Greatest thing because
they're so beautiful.
1576
01:05:41,729 --> 01:05:44,189
They want to know everything.
They really do.
1577
01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:46,066
And gradually, as they go through school,
1578
01:05:46,067 --> 01:05:48,110
the pity is this gets dampened.
1579
01:05:48,111 --> 01:05:51,113
If there's only some way
to capture it and bottle it
1580
01:05:51,114 --> 01:05:53,615
and give it to older people, you know?
1581
01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:55,868
And they can, if you've ever seen a man
1582
01:05:55,869 --> 01:05:57,619
with his little girl, you know,
1583
01:05:57,620 --> 01:06:00,330
he suddenly becomes a little boy again.
1584
01:06:00,331 --> 01:06:02,124
I think it may be in kindergarten the way
1585
01:06:02,125 --> 01:06:03,750
the regimentation starts.
1586
01:06:03,751 --> 01:06:05,377
And the beautiful thing about kindergarten
1587
01:06:05,378 --> 01:06:06,879
is the pictures they draw.
1588
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,714
- Yeah.
1589
01:06:07,715 --> 01:06:08,964
- They're so great. They're so...
1590
01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,341
They're abstract and they're
beautifully abstract.
1591
01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,844
They're subconscious is still
close to their conscious.
1592
01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:15,512
- And all they can teach
us is how to learn.
1593
01:06:15,513 --> 01:06:17,139
All they can do is give
us the study skills.
1594
01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:18,891
They can't teach us anything about...
1595
01:06:18,892 --> 01:06:20,267
- Nobody can teach you how to learn.
1596
01:06:20,268 --> 01:06:21,518
- But yes, they can teach us how to read...
1597
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:22,603
- Nobody can teach you how to learn,
1598
01:06:22,604 --> 01:06:23,896
- how to write essays...
1599
01:06:23,897 --> 01:06:26,148
Because you've got to
learn from them how to learn.
1600
01:06:26,149 --> 01:06:28,150
- But they can. What do you mean?
1601
01:06:28,151 --> 01:06:29,027
- That's true.
1602
01:06:29,028 --> 01:06:30,527
- Everybody knows how to learn.
1603
01:06:30,528 --> 01:06:31,404
- No...
1604
01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:32,363
- If they only listen to themselves
1605
01:06:32,364 --> 01:06:33,655
and then they can magnify that power,
1606
01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:35,240
but nobody can teach you how to learn.
1607
01:06:35,241 --> 01:06:36,658
- There's certain basic skills,
1608
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,160
certain knowledge they have to...
1609
01:06:38,161 --> 01:06:39,369
- You can't learn how to learn.
1610
01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:40,662
- They can. They can give you...
1611
01:06:40,663 --> 01:06:42,164
- Because you have to be taught that.
1612
01:06:42,165 --> 01:06:43,790
- What's the basic problem
with the whole system...
1613
01:06:43,791 --> 01:06:45,000
Or is there one?
1614
01:06:45,001 --> 01:06:46,418
- The basic system...
1615
01:06:46,419 --> 01:06:47,878
- There's no basic problem.
1616
01:06:47,879 --> 01:06:49,922
The basic problem is...
1617
01:06:49,923 --> 01:06:51,548
So entwined with people...
1618
01:06:51,549 --> 01:06:52,799
- In our school, you know,
1619
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,260
you have to be out of the
sight of the school to smoke,
1620
01:06:55,261 --> 01:06:57,804
which means if you can see
the school, then, you know...
1621
01:06:57,805 --> 01:06:59,307
- They can see you.
1622
01:07:00,308 --> 01:07:01,642
(Laughter)
1623
01:07:01,643 --> 01:07:04,038
- And you have to keep walking
until you can't see it anymore.
1624
01:07:04,062 --> 01:07:05,938
- The big thing that's
wrong with school, and
1625
01:07:05,939 --> 01:07:08,148
the big thing that's wrong
with this classroom right now
1626
01:07:08,149 --> 01:07:09,399
is the fact it's boring.
1627
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,694
- That's right.
1628
01:07:13,446 --> 01:07:16,824
- If I'm left by myself,
I'll either do something...
1629
01:07:18,201 --> 01:07:19,952
- If we can even get an answer.
1630
01:07:19,953 --> 01:07:20,787
- What's the hell?
1631
01:07:20,787 --> 01:07:21,787
- Shut up.
1632
01:07:23,331 --> 01:07:24,957
- One good thing about
the whole bloody system...
1633
01:07:24,958 --> 01:07:25,792
- I've given the answer already.
1634
01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:26,584
- Yeah.
1635
01:07:26,585 --> 01:07:28,168
You talk about walking
in the wrong door,
1636
01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:29,962
through the cafeteria.
That is no problem.
1637
01:07:29,963 --> 01:07:32,089
(Chatter)
1638
01:07:32,090 --> 01:07:33,966
- It's boring. It's boring.
1639
01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:36,593
I wanna sit and scream in
class because it's boring,
1640
01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:38,595
and it's probably gonna
be boring next year,
1641
01:07:38,596 --> 01:07:40,097
and I hope it isn't, but
it probably will.
1642
01:07:40,098 --> 01:07:40,932
- Right?
1643
01:07:40,933 --> 01:07:42,057
- You people are all crazy
1644
01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:43,100
because you're looking for the best
1645
01:07:43,101 --> 01:07:44,101
school and the best school
in the world.
1646
01:07:44,102 --> 01:07:45,727
And you're looking for the best exams
1647
01:07:45,728 --> 01:07:47,230
and the best exam is life.
1648
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,731
- I dunno. It'll be
interesting to see though.
1649
01:07:49,732 --> 01:07:50,608
- I'd like to have...
1650
01:07:50,609 --> 01:07:52,442
(Arguing)
1651
01:07:52,443 --> 01:07:54,194
- What is the problem with the system?
1652
01:07:54,195 --> 01:07:56,071
You've been here for about 45 minutes,
1653
01:07:56,072 --> 01:07:59,116
talking about walking up
the wrong flight of stairs.
1654
01:07:59,117 --> 01:08:00,701
- I think he's got a point.
1655
01:08:00,702 --> 01:08:02,703
(Chuckling and indistinct banter)
1656
01:08:02,704 --> 01:08:03,621
- You're the one who's being...
1657
01:08:03,622 --> 01:08:04,871
- Then I ask you a question and you say,
1658
01:08:04,872 --> 01:08:06,206
"yes, well, there's a problem."
1659
01:08:06,207 --> 01:08:07,499
And then you talk about
walking in the wrong door,
1660
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:09,209
through the cafeteria.
1661
01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:10,335
- We're all acting like hurt children.
1662
01:08:10,336 --> 01:08:11,129
- There is no problem.
1663
01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:12,629
- There's no problem.
- What's the problem?
1664
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:13,630
- There's a teacher standing there...
1665
01:08:13,631 --> 01:08:15,007
- You people are creating a problem.
1666
01:08:15,008 --> 01:08:17,593
- Malcolm, if you don't... if
you're so annoyed of this,
1667
01:08:17,594 --> 01:08:19,219
why do you go back to school?
1668
01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:20,470
- If I dropped out of school
1669
01:08:20,471 --> 01:08:23,098
and then went to work
or... became a hippie,
1670
01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:24,474
or something like that, I'd be...
1671
01:08:24,475 --> 01:08:26,351
I wouldn't be gaining anything.
1672
01:08:26,352 --> 01:08:28,061
I still have just as much freedom
1673
01:08:28,062 --> 01:08:29,730
as I have going to school
because we're all deluded
1674
01:08:29,731 --> 01:08:31,732
that we have a certain amount of freedom,
1675
01:08:31,733 --> 01:08:33,860
which is denied, which is utter nonsense.
1676
01:08:34,027 --> 01:08:35,570
Nobody's free.
1677
01:08:35,737 --> 01:08:38,113
So all I'm gaining and all I'm trading
1678
01:08:38,114 --> 01:08:40,241
is one little prison for another.
1679
01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:43,745
- Learning...
1680
01:08:43,746 --> 01:08:46,830
- You've seen sounds
like that, haven't you?
1681
01:08:46,831 --> 01:08:48,206
- Is earning!
1682
01:08:48,207 --> 01:08:50,751
(Clapping)
1683
01:08:50,752 --> 01:08:51,877
- Here's money.
1684
01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:54,129
- Time is money, learning is earning,
1685
01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:55,756
and school is boring.
1686
01:08:55,757 --> 01:08:58,342
(Chuckling)
1687
01:08:58,343 --> 01:09:01,011
That's it. That's all they have to know.
1688
01:09:01,012 --> 01:09:03,513
- Omnia per scientiam,
that's what I always say.
1689
01:09:03,514 --> 01:09:04,514
- Yes, put that down.
1690
01:09:04,515 --> 01:09:05,849
- He told me to tell you,
1691
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:07,392
you're sitting on the
right chair the wrong way.
1692
01:09:07,393 --> 01:09:09,228
So I just hammed it up from there on.
1693
01:09:09,604 --> 01:09:11,271
- What's your school motto?
1694
01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:12,272
- Omnia per scientiam.
1695
01:09:13,608 --> 01:09:15,776
Don mills, Don mills collegiate
1696
01:09:15,777 --> 01:09:18,278
is the school we honor and Cherish
1697
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:19,404
hey, hey, hey
1698
01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:24,284
Don mills, sing our allegiance
for the whole...
1699
01:09:24,285 --> 01:09:27,413
(Singing)
1700
01:09:33,753 --> 01:09:38,006
The lap of learning that makes
our future look bright,
1701
01:09:38,007 --> 01:09:39,049
right?
1702
01:09:39,927 --> 01:09:42,052
Don mills held by the banner
1703
01:09:42,053 --> 01:09:46,306
of the white, the black and the gold
1704
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:52,021
Don mills... where our
hopes and dreams may unfold
1705
01:09:52,689 --> 01:09:56,191
oh, when we shout it,
and brag about it
1706
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:59,444
you know we'll never deny.
1707
01:09:59,445 --> 01:10:03,281
We come from d-o-n m-i-I-I-s
1708
01:10:05,201 --> 01:10:06,703
Don mills
1709
01:10:15,461 --> 01:10:17,421
- That's an actual school song.
1710
01:10:17,422 --> 01:10:18,714
(Laughter)
1711
01:10:18,715 --> 01:10:20,173
- The Latin teacher wrote it.
1712
01:10:20,174 --> 01:10:21,842
- Oh, that's terrible.
1713
01:10:21,843 --> 01:10:24,052
- Far as it's written about 1890.
1714
01:10:24,053 --> 01:10:26,596
When all that sort of imperialistic
crap was trying its head...
1715
01:10:26,597 --> 01:10:28,098
- Right country, right or wrong?
1716
01:10:28,099 --> 01:10:30,350
- Right or wrong. Right.
1717
01:10:30,351 --> 01:10:31,351
- Okay, kids.
1718
01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:32,436
- Okay, what now?
1719
01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:33,478
- In the ties, we know...
1720
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,981
- We gotta clean the classroom and...
1721
01:10:35,982 --> 01:10:36,858
- What?
1722
01:10:36,858 --> 01:10:37,734
- Yeah. We have to clean it up.
1723
01:10:37,734 --> 01:10:38,609
- Boo.
1724
01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:39,569
- And the blackboard?
1725
01:10:39,569 --> 01:10:40,361
- Huh?
1726
01:10:40,361 --> 01:10:41,237
- You're humorous.
1727
01:10:41,238 --> 01:10:42,362
- The blackboard.
1728
01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:44,114
(Chatter)
1729
01:10:44,115 --> 01:10:47,325
- Leave the blackboard, please.
1730
01:10:47,326 --> 01:10:50,747
(Folk rock music)
1731
01:10:57,378 --> 01:10:58,879
Worry, worry
1732
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,006
what a drag
1733
01:11:01,007 --> 01:11:03,133
makes me do it
1734
01:11:03,134 --> 01:11:06,136
it makes me shoulder sag
1735
01:11:06,137 --> 01:11:08,013
worry, worry
1736
01:11:08,014 --> 01:11:10,140
I'm all through
1737
01:11:10,141 --> 01:11:14,270
listening to the likes of you
1738
01:11:15,521 --> 01:11:18,649
yeah, I've been working every day
1739
01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:23,654
on my... twitching way
1740
01:11:24,739 --> 01:11:27,992
worry, worry, I'm all through
1741
01:11:28,910 --> 01:11:32,789
listening to the likes of you
1742
01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:37,293
now I'm working on other ways
1743
01:11:38,544 --> 01:11:42,256
and worry doesn't mar my days
1744
01:11:43,049 --> 01:11:46,677
just concentrate on being you
1745
01:11:47,678 --> 01:11:51,682
it'll drive you crazy,
but you won't be blue
1746
01:11:51,849 --> 01:11:55,894
I met a strange man downtown
1747
01:11:55,895 --> 01:12:00,691
and he said things that
really brought me around
1748
01:12:01,567 --> 01:12:04,821
he called us silly, mad machines
1749
01:12:05,530 --> 01:12:07,322
to worry and fret
1750
01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:10,201
and live in dreams
1751
01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:14,413
now I'm working on other ways
1752
01:12:15,331 --> 01:12:19,210
worry doesn't mar my days
1753
01:12:19,794 --> 01:12:23,214
just concentrate on being you
1754
01:12:24,215 --> 01:12:28,219
it'll drive you crazy,
but you won't be blue
1755
01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:32,431
worry, worry, what a drag
1756
01:12:33,349 --> 01:12:37,436
makes me twitch, it
makes me shoulders sag
1757
01:12:38,604 --> 01:12:39,939
worry, worry
1758
01:12:40,940 --> 01:12:42,232
it's all I do
1759
01:12:42,233 --> 01:12:46,945
about what's happening to me and you
1760
01:12:46,946 --> 01:12:49,824
ooh, ooh, ooh
1761
01:12:50,116 --> 01:12:52,743
ooh, ooh, ooh
1762
01:12:58,457 --> 01:13:01,710
- Because especially that
time, which you all know of,
1763
01:13:01,711 --> 01:13:04,963
the time when we were at
that old deserted building,
1764
01:13:04,964 --> 01:13:06,381
when he was rolling,
1765
01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:08,884
and you broke in on
something very personal
1766
01:13:08,885 --> 01:13:10,511
and that upset me.
1767
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:11,846
- I can't hear you.
1768
01:13:11,847 --> 01:13:15,473
- You broke in on something
very personal and that upset me
1769
01:13:15,474 --> 01:13:17,142
because I was trying to get away
1770
01:13:17,143 --> 01:13:19,394
from all the terrible
things you were doing
1771
01:13:19,395 --> 01:13:21,479
'cause I thought they were terrible,
1772
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:25,108
all those planned sequences of us,
of us...
1773
01:13:25,109 --> 01:13:26,526
We ran out of the car.
1774
01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:29,154
We arrived about 14 times, you know,
1775
01:13:29,155 --> 01:13:31,781
and you don't really do that
when you're going to play
1776
01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:34,492
in a deserted building, you just come.
1777
01:13:34,493 --> 01:13:36,161
And so I... ran into the corner
1778
01:13:36,162 --> 01:13:39,289
and Martin came with his little camera
1779
01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:41,917
and I turned around and there he was.
1780
01:13:41,918 --> 01:13:44,044
- You were angry at Martin?
1781
01:13:44,045 --> 01:13:47,422
- Not so much angry at Martin
1782
01:13:47,423 --> 01:13:48,924
as angry at...
1783
01:13:48,925 --> 01:13:51,801
Not you but, well, you too,
1784
01:13:51,802 --> 01:13:52,762
but the idea...
1785
01:13:52,763 --> 01:13:56,933
Of the camera taking
something so personal...
1786
01:13:59,185 --> 01:14:01,687
Which I meant to ask you yesterday.
1787
01:14:02,688 --> 01:14:03,688
Did you turn the camera?
1788
01:14:03,689 --> 01:14:07,025
Like, were you filming
when I was with Larry?
1789
01:14:07,026 --> 01:14:08,151
- Ask Martin.
1790
01:14:08,152 --> 01:14:09,527
- Martin, were you?
1791
01:14:09,528 --> 01:14:10,820
- Yes, dear, what?
1792
01:14:10,821 --> 01:14:12,072
- Were you filming when I...
1793
01:14:12,073 --> 01:14:16,826
When Larry and I were over
on the... standing over on the...
1794
01:14:16,827 --> 01:14:18,453
- Yes, I was.
1795
01:14:18,454 --> 01:14:21,539
- Like that, I'd object... to that.
1796
01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:23,541
Although I wouldn't
say you couldn't use it,
1797
01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:25,710
if you wanted to, but that was something
1798
01:14:25,711 --> 01:14:27,922
terribly personal.
1799
01:14:28,464 --> 01:14:29,590
- Tell Martin.
1800
01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:34,345
- Martin, that was
something terribly personal.
1801
01:14:36,555 --> 01:14:37,348
- But, yes...
1802
01:14:37,349 --> 01:14:39,350
- When you were filming that...
1803
01:15:06,752 --> 01:15:09,379
- It's only the personal
things that are worth filming.
1804
01:15:09,380 --> 01:15:10,256
Really.
1805
01:15:10,256 --> 01:15:11,132
- Yeah, well...
1806
01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:14,093
- They have, you
know, they convey...
1807
01:15:15,386 --> 01:15:19,097
A meaning to other human beings
1808
01:15:19,098 --> 01:15:20,891
that a non-personal thing doesn't.
1809
01:15:22,768 --> 01:15:24,645
- Yeah. I see that.
1810
01:15:25,771 --> 01:15:29,358
I suppose it all depends
on how you use it,
1811
01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:34,363
but I think the film's
gonna turn out more...
1812
01:15:34,655 --> 01:15:35,489
- Can't hear you.
1813
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:37,616
- I think the film's
going to be beautiful.
1814
01:15:37,783 --> 01:15:38,784
I really do.
1815
01:15:39,368 --> 01:15:41,370
- Why did you change your mind?
1816
01:15:42,496 --> 01:15:46,541
- I don't know what it was
because when you get to know
1817
01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:49,169
the people, the kids...
1818
01:15:49,170 --> 01:15:52,172
How we all got together,
and we're all so different,
1819
01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,299
and yet we all tolerate each other,
1820
01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:55,759
and we all listen to each other,
1821
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,011
and I think there's
something important in that.
1822
01:15:58,012 --> 01:16:01,765
And I think the film should
show that because it's true.
1823
01:16:01,766 --> 01:16:03,391
I was talking to art about it.
1824
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:06,061
How the two things we have in common
1825
01:16:06,062 --> 01:16:08,313
are that we tolerate each other
1826
01:16:08,314 --> 01:16:12,026
and that we're all kind of
searching for something.
1827
01:16:12,902 --> 01:16:13,902
I think that's what...
1828
01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:15,570
- Mark, could you tighten in,
1829
01:16:15,571 --> 01:16:17,822
so that jock can get closer, please?
1830
01:16:17,823 --> 01:16:19,032
- Yes.
1831
01:16:19,033 --> 01:16:21,201
- Okay. Move in closer.
1832
01:16:21,202 --> 01:16:24,788
I wanna make sure that we hear everything.
1833
01:16:24,789 --> 01:16:27,207
- And I can't wait to see it
1834
01:16:27,208 --> 01:16:31,711
because it's like a dream,
this whole thing...
1835
01:16:31,712 --> 01:16:34,714
What we're trying to show
and it's so beautiful,
1836
01:16:34,715 --> 01:16:38,343
and I hope that everybody sees that.
1837
01:16:38,344 --> 01:16:41,471
It makes me so happy. I've never been...
1838
01:16:41,472 --> 01:16:44,100
Felt so happy as with
you, all of you people.
1839
01:16:44,725 --> 01:16:45,725
It's great.
1840
01:16:50,606 --> 01:16:53,108
Now I think you're going
to make me cry again.
1841
01:16:53,109 --> 01:16:53,984
- Oh no.
1842
01:16:53,985 --> 01:16:55,360
Oh no.
1843
01:16:55,361 --> 01:16:57,488
No, you don't have to do that.
1844
01:16:59,990 --> 01:17:03,452
Hey, why are you crying if you're happy?
1845
01:17:04,495 --> 01:17:08,123
Doreen, why are you
crying if you're happy?
1846
01:17:08,124 --> 01:17:11,377
- I always cry when I'm happy, I guess.
1847
01:17:19,385 --> 01:17:21,636
- I'm very... crying today.
1848
01:17:21,637 --> 01:17:23,012
I cried today too.
1849
01:17:23,013 --> 01:17:24,348
- Let's go back.
1850
01:17:41,282 --> 01:17:42,158
- There have been hippie marches,
1851
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,784
and hippie sit-ins since
early Sunday morning.
1852
01:17:44,785 --> 01:17:46,911
More than 60 people have been arrested
1853
01:17:46,912 --> 01:17:49,789
and the hippie protest continues.
1854
01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:52,917
Police are now investigating
the possibility of a link
1855
01:17:52,918 --> 01:17:55,170
between the hippie
activity and the presence
1856
01:17:55,171 --> 01:17:58,673
of a national film board
company in this area.
1857
01:17:58,674 --> 01:18:01,009
Earlier this week, a course of instruction
1858
01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:03,261
on how to resist arrest and go limp
1859
01:18:03,262 --> 01:18:05,930
to be dragged away by police was conducted
1860
01:18:05,931 --> 01:18:08,183
by the hippies in the city park.
1861
01:18:08,184 --> 01:18:10,435
One of the instructors, Alison Gordon,
1862
01:18:10,436 --> 01:18:14,398
later appeared as a member
of a national film board crew
1863
01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,400
at city hall square
1864
01:18:16,817 --> 01:18:18,943
during what was termed a sleep-in.
1865
01:18:18,944 --> 01:18:21,154
The national film board
has denied any connection
1866
01:18:21,155 --> 01:18:23,948
with Ms. Gordon, except
that she had been retained
1867
01:18:23,949 --> 01:18:28,703
to act as a liaison between
the hippies and the film crew.
1868
01:18:28,704 --> 01:18:30,830
On Sunday, the film board had been issued
1869
01:18:30,831 --> 01:18:33,291
a city parks permit to
stage what they termed
1870
01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:37,420
a film-in for a sequence on
a Toronto area production.
1871
01:18:37,421 --> 01:18:40,340
By an unfortunate coincidence,
an nfb spokesman
1872
01:18:40,341 --> 01:18:43,468
said it became a part
of the hippie outbreak,
1873
01:18:43,469 --> 01:18:45,179
bill kopps, cbc news.
1874
01:18:49,225 --> 01:18:50,601
- You recording?
1875
01:19:02,571 --> 01:19:04,822
- In a way, we were
sort of responsible.
1876
01:19:04,823 --> 01:19:05,741
- No, we were not.
1877
01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:06,575
- You know, I mean,
1878
01:19:06,576 --> 01:19:08,827
people change when they get
a camera in front of them.
1879
01:19:08,994 --> 01:19:09,994
- This is funny.
1880
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,956
They called the band on Sunday
1881
01:19:12,957 --> 01:19:14,207
a bunch of hippies.
1882
01:19:14,208 --> 01:19:15,375
- Yeah, I know.
1883
01:19:15,376 --> 01:19:17,460
- They even paid for the hippie band.
1884
01:19:17,461 --> 01:19:19,879
(Laughter)
1885
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,090
- It is funny.
1886
01:19:22,841 --> 01:19:25,093
- I didn't know I was a hippie.
1887
01:19:25,094 --> 01:19:27,637
- What if your mother sees
that? What'll she do?
1888
01:19:27,638 --> 01:19:29,138
- Oh, wow.
1889
01:19:29,139 --> 01:19:31,267
- Playing with a bunch of hippies, are you?
1890
01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:35,896
(Paper crinkling)
1891
01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:40,984
- This was last night.
1892
01:19:40,985 --> 01:19:42,151
Look at that.
1893
01:19:42,152 --> 01:19:43,278
- Look at this.
1894
01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:44,529
We made the headlines, boys.
1895
01:19:44,530 --> 01:19:46,030
Show this to everybody.
1896
01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:47,156
At the top.
1897
01:19:47,157 --> 01:19:49,493
- That was the early edition.
1898
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,160
Oh, that's too much.
1899
01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:51,912
- Oh, that's killer.
1900
01:19:51,913 --> 01:19:53,162
- Yeah. Read it out loud.
1901
01:19:55,624 --> 01:19:56,916
The national film
board admitted yesterday
1902
01:19:56,917 --> 01:19:58,376
that it maneuvered some of the events,
1903
01:19:58,377 --> 01:20:00,044
which have occurred
among yorkville's hippies
1904
01:20:00,045 --> 01:20:01,297
in recent days.
1905
01:20:02,673 --> 01:20:04,632
A spokesman said the
board obtained a permit
1906
01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:07,176
from the Metro's park department on Friday
1907
01:20:07,177 --> 01:20:08,511
to hold the noisy love-in,
1908
01:20:08,512 --> 01:20:09,887
also known as a film-in,
1909
01:20:09,888 --> 01:20:12,682
which greeted David depoe
and five other hippies
1910
01:20:12,683 --> 01:20:15,685
when they were released
from Don jail last Sunday.
1911
01:20:15,686 --> 01:20:17,937
He also admitted that it
paid for the hippie band
1912
01:20:17,938 --> 01:20:21,190
and rental of sound equipment.
Hippie band.
1913
01:20:21,191 --> 01:20:22,817
(Laughter)
1914
01:20:22,818 --> 01:20:24,569
The spokesman also said
that the crews of the board
1915
01:20:24,570 --> 01:20:26,821
had moved hippies around
to several locations
1916
01:20:26,822 --> 01:20:31,659
in Metro. Report tres youth
today. That means we're hippies.
1917
01:20:31,660 --> 01:20:33,911
The board gave a mixed answer to a charge
1918
01:20:33,912 --> 01:20:36,956
that Alison Gordon, 24, was
an employee of the board.
1919
01:20:36,957 --> 01:20:39,584
Ms. Gordon instructed
hippies, Tuesday afternoon
1920
01:20:39,585 --> 01:20:42,211
in queen's park, in passive
resistance to police.
1921
01:20:42,212 --> 01:20:44,589
That afternoon another
instructor of the hippies
1922
01:20:44,590 --> 01:20:46,966
described police as mad dogs, violent
1923
01:20:46,967 --> 01:20:49,969
and loving to stamp on people's hands.
1924
01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:52,972
Leo waszczuk, location,
business manager of the board
1925
01:20:52,973 --> 01:20:55,433
said that Ms. Gordon was not an employee,
1926
01:20:55,434 --> 01:20:57,101
but a representative of the board
1927
01:20:57,102 --> 01:20:59,812
in its Montreal office, said
in a telephone conversation
1928
01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:03,107
that she was... and that
she was living in Toronto.
1929
01:21:03,108 --> 01:21:04,108
Matt rausen.
1930
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:06,487
- Is that...?
1931
01:21:08,113 --> 01:21:09,614
- Yeah. Matt rausen.
1932
01:21:09,615 --> 01:21:11,616
That's mort ransen, director of the film
1933
01:21:11,617 --> 01:21:13,117
said that technically she has not been
1934
01:21:13,118 --> 01:21:14,995
working for the board.
1935
01:21:17,247 --> 01:21:18,998
He said that the board
had arranged a film-in
1936
01:21:18,999 --> 01:21:21,000
for Sunday afternoon as part of a film,
1937
01:21:21,001 --> 01:21:23,586
yet untitled, which would show youth today.
1938
01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:25,380
The film was to be shown on television
1939
01:21:25,381 --> 01:21:27,256
and later distributed to schools.
1940
01:21:27,257 --> 01:21:30,093
- I was shocked to learn
about the whole incident,
1941
01:21:30,094 --> 01:21:32,136
and I think it's disgraceful
that an organization
1942
01:21:32,137 --> 01:21:34,514
like the film board can be
involved with such...
1943
01:21:34,515 --> 01:21:36,266
- Quite so, quite so, sir.
1944
01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,643
What do you think of
the national film board?
1945
01:21:38,644 --> 01:21:40,520
- Oh, my opinion has been lowered greatly
1946
01:21:40,521 --> 01:21:42,647
by the incidents of the past days.
1947
01:21:42,648 --> 01:21:43,482
- I agree.
1948
01:21:43,483 --> 01:21:45,733
- I'd be in shock that they'd
be associated with such...
1949
01:21:45,734 --> 01:21:46,527
- Exactly.
1950
01:21:46,528 --> 01:21:47,528
- Low members of our society.
1951
01:21:47,528 --> 01:21:48,404
- Exactly.
1952
01:21:48,405 --> 01:21:50,154
I think the national
film board is completely
1953
01:21:50,155 --> 01:21:52,407
to blame for this terrible instance.
1954
01:21:52,408 --> 01:21:55,411
Sir, do you have anything
to say upon this?
1955
01:21:58,497 --> 01:22:01,290
- Not really, except
that national film board
1956
01:22:01,291 --> 01:22:04,293
has gotten caught in
the unusual predicament
1957
01:22:04,294 --> 01:22:06,796
of being blamed for the
news that it's reporting.
1958
01:22:06,797 --> 01:22:08,048
- As usual, of course.
1959
01:22:08,215 --> 01:22:09,507
- This rarely happens with media,
1960
01:22:09,508 --> 01:22:11,801
and it's odd that it should
happen with this film
1961
01:22:11,802 --> 01:22:13,928
and significant that it
should happen with this film,
1962
01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:16,139
which is a film of social protest.
1963
01:22:16,140 --> 01:22:17,432
That's all I have to say.
1964
01:22:17,433 --> 01:22:18,308
- That is all?
1965
01:22:18,308 --> 01:22:19,184
- That's all.
1966
01:22:19,184 --> 01:22:20,018
- Thank you, sir.
1967
01:22:20,019 --> 01:22:21,561
Would you say... that the nfb
1968
01:22:21,562 --> 01:22:23,062
is to blame for this?
1969
01:22:23,063 --> 01:22:24,398
- Of course not.
1970
01:22:26,066 --> 01:22:27,442
(Laughter)
1971
01:22:27,443 --> 01:22:29,069
- No.
1972
01:22:29,945 --> 01:22:31,195
- Cut that comment.
1973
01:22:31,196 --> 01:22:32,823
(Laughter)
1974
01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:37,827
We're moving through the crowd,
1975
01:22:37,828 --> 01:22:40,664
and as we come up on our next...
1976
01:22:41,165 --> 01:22:44,417
Sir, do you have any comment
upon the yorkville riots?
1977
01:22:44,418 --> 01:22:46,794
- I think it's been misreported.
1978
01:22:46,795 --> 01:22:48,463
- He thinks it's been...
1979
01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:51,215
- What do you think of
the national film board?
1980
01:22:51,216 --> 01:22:54,802
- Well, of course...
- It's a great institution.
1981
01:22:54,803 --> 01:22:55,596
- Really?
1982
01:22:55,597 --> 01:22:56,721
- Oh, definitely.
1983
01:22:56,722 --> 01:22:58,848
- Would your opinion be biased at all?
1984
01:22:58,849 --> 01:22:59,974
- Be what?
1985
01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:01,601
- Biased. Do you know what that means?
1986
01:23:01,602 --> 01:23:02,436
- No, I don't.
1987
01:23:02,437 --> 01:23:03,561
- Prejudice. Prejudice.
1988
01:23:03,562 --> 01:23:05,229
- Do you have a prejudiced opinion
1989
01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:06,230
upon the national film board?
1990
01:23:06,231 --> 01:23:07,191
- Oh, never.
1991
01:23:07,191 --> 01:23:08,191
- Never.
1992
01:23:08,233 --> 01:23:08,859
- Never.
1993
01:23:08,860 --> 01:23:11,111
(Laughter)
1994
01:23:12,362 --> 01:23:13,821
- Obscene.
1995
01:23:13,822 --> 01:23:15,114
- Well, you've all heard about it.
1996
01:23:15,115 --> 01:23:16,115
Obviously.
1997
01:23:17,451 --> 01:23:21,747
We're filming the final
scene in the film right now.
1998
01:23:23,499 --> 01:23:24,499
This is...
1999
01:23:24,875 --> 01:23:26,375
- You're kidding?
- Oh, disillusionment.
2000
01:23:26,376 --> 01:23:28,127
- The departure of the film crew.
2001
01:23:28,128 --> 01:23:29,128
- You're kidding.
2002
01:23:29,129 --> 01:23:31,506
- We've all been ordered back to Montreal.
2003
01:23:31,507 --> 01:23:36,512
The film board hierarchy
has reacted in a panicky way,
2004
01:23:37,763 --> 01:23:39,973
and ordered us to go back,
2005
01:23:41,767 --> 01:23:43,519
and so we're leaving.
2006
01:23:46,146 --> 01:23:49,233
None of us on the crew
agree with the decision.
2007
01:23:50,150 --> 01:23:52,903
We've all told them that
we disagree with it.
2008
01:23:54,363 --> 01:23:56,364
- Maybe this is a good thing, really.
2009
01:23:56,365 --> 01:23:57,157
- Why?
2010
01:23:57,158 --> 01:23:59,617
- I mean, it shows what
we're up against, doesn't it?
2011
01:23:59,618 --> 01:24:00,410
- Yeah.
2012
01:24:00,411 --> 01:24:01,619
- We're up against the whole bit.
2013
01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:04,914
We're up against the papers
prefabricating stories
2014
01:24:04,915 --> 01:24:05,749
and lying outright.
2015
01:24:05,749 --> 01:24:06,667
- Yeah, but...
2016
01:24:06,668 --> 01:24:10,628
- We're up against administrations
believing outright lies.
2017
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:12,880
- Mort, come home! You've had enough fun
2018
01:24:12,881 --> 01:24:14,757
playing movie director.
2019
01:24:14,758 --> 01:24:17,677
- Yeah, that's it.
- I've had enough fun.
2020
01:24:17,678 --> 01:24:20,388
I've had a lot of fun. It's true.
2021
01:24:20,389 --> 01:24:24,267
(Chatter)
2022
01:24:24,268 --> 01:24:25,060
- I still can't...
2023
01:24:25,061 --> 01:24:28,188
This all seems like it's
just still part of a plot.
2024
01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,399
I can't comprehend that
it's actually over.
2025
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,192
- It is.
2026
01:24:32,193 --> 01:24:35,404
- It's a globe and mail plot
to take over Toronto, slowly.
2027
01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:41,576
- It's like listening to war.
2028
01:24:41,577 --> 01:24:43,578
- I kept thinking this was
such a beautiful chance.
2029
01:24:43,579 --> 01:24:45,204
- Put too many hopes in one thing.
2030
01:24:45,205 --> 01:24:47,456
It's like putting all your
soldiers in one battle
2031
01:24:47,457 --> 01:24:48,959
and then they all get slaughtered.
2032
01:24:49,668 --> 01:24:50,835
- Isn't it great that the illusion
2033
01:24:50,836 --> 01:24:52,962
of movie-making is
defeated by the illusion
2034
01:24:52,963 --> 01:24:55,590
of newspaper-making?
2035
01:24:55,591 --> 01:24:58,467
And we all know that not
one word of it was true
2036
01:24:58,468 --> 01:25:02,096
and yet we're acting as if
it was. How about that?
2037
01:25:02,097 --> 01:25:04,682
Hey, we should go along with them and
2038
01:25:04,683 --> 01:25:06,601
get all the kids in the village
2039
01:25:06,602 --> 01:25:08,853
to demonstrate for us 'cause we...
2040
01:25:08,854 --> 01:25:12,857
(Laughter)
2041
01:25:12,858 --> 01:25:14,818
- That's a very bad idea.
2042
01:25:16,486 --> 01:25:17,487
- Excuse me.
2043
01:25:22,868 --> 01:25:25,244
- I've got a...
- My orders are to pack
2044
01:25:25,245 --> 01:25:28,122
and get out of town, so goodbye.
2045
01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:29,123
- It sounds like...
2046
01:25:29,124 --> 01:25:30,124
(Laughter)
2047
01:25:31,376 --> 01:25:33,377
The sheriff is giving you to sundown.
2048
01:25:33,378 --> 01:25:34,254
- Okay, you too.
2049
01:25:34,254 --> 01:25:35,213
Cathy,
2050
01:25:35,214 --> 01:25:36,839
Roger, it's been a pleasure.
2051
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,965
Take care of yourself.
2052
01:25:37,966 --> 01:25:40,092
Very nice. You too, Peter.
2053
01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:41,594
Bye, Sarah. Bye, Jack.
2054
01:25:41,595 --> 01:25:43,096
Oh, come on, honey.
2055
01:25:44,973 --> 01:25:47,892
Don't be foolish.
2056
01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:49,770
Take it easy.
2057
01:25:50,604 --> 01:25:52,605
Very nice. You too, Chris.
2058
01:25:52,606 --> 01:25:53,981
Ken, Chris, Ken.
2059
01:25:53,982 --> 01:25:54,900
Who's Ken? Who's Chris?
2060
01:25:54,901 --> 01:25:56,275
Chris, Ken, Chris.
2061
01:25:56,276 --> 01:25:59,862
- Still don't know?
- Chris, Ken. I'm David, he's John.
2062
01:25:59,863 --> 01:26:02,865
- Will you be able to
make a film out of it?
2063
01:26:02,866 --> 01:26:03,909
- I don't know.
2064
01:26:07,788 --> 01:26:12,417
(Upbeat folk rock music)
2065
01:27:16,815 --> 01:27:20,318
(Upbeat folk rock music fades)
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