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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,835 --> 00:00:02,753 - Oh, yeah, Kevin. 2 00:00:02,754 --> 00:00:04,879 (Laughter) 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,756 - What do you feel like? 4 00:00:06,757 --> 00:00:07,882 - Try it. Say something. 5 00:00:07,883 --> 00:00:10,802 - It's like a... (Laughs) 6 00:00:12,054 --> 00:00:13,513 You know what it's like? 7 00:00:13,514 --> 00:00:14,389 - No, no, no, no. 8 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:16,516 You must tell me in here what it's like. Okay. 9 00:00:16,517 --> 00:00:21,395 - It's like being... (Laughs) - I can't talk like that. 10 00:00:21,396 --> 00:00:22,231 It's like you're... 11 00:00:22,232 --> 00:00:24,149 - No, no, no, no, no... 12 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,485 - Come on. 13 00:00:27,486 --> 00:00:29,654 - It's like... 14 00:00:29,655 --> 00:00:32,823 Being in a... 15 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:34,325 Spaceship. 16 00:00:34,326 --> 00:00:37,036 (Laughter) 17 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:39,413 - I want to write something about the movie. 18 00:00:39,414 --> 00:00:41,332 (Mechanical whirring) 19 00:00:41,333 --> 00:00:44,585 Is there some common thing about you other than your age? 20 00:00:44,586 --> 00:00:46,796 - I think between us we've got a fair cross-section of... 21 00:00:46,797 --> 00:00:48,589 - But it's not really an accurate cross-section. 22 00:00:48,590 --> 00:00:50,299 - No, but it's a cross-section. - It's all we can do. 23 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:51,093 - Yeah. 24 00:00:51,094 --> 00:00:53,678 - You got into fantastic subtitles because a lot of people 25 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:54,971 might call us all one section 26 00:00:54,972 --> 00:00:57,848 when in fact that even in a smaller section 27 00:00:57,849 --> 00:00:59,850 there's smaller sections and in smaller sections, 28 00:00:59,851 --> 00:01:01,051 there's even smaller sections. 29 00:01:01,728 --> 00:01:03,480 - In the film medium... 30 00:01:04,314 --> 00:01:05,940 - The medium is the message? 31 00:01:05,941 --> 00:01:07,149 - Yeah, right. 32 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:10,403 Two columns: One visual and one audio. 33 00:01:10,404 --> 00:01:13,656 - What scenes have you just generally mapped out? 34 00:01:13,657 --> 00:01:15,575 - Well, like, in the movie we'll be... 35 00:01:15,576 --> 00:01:18,078 (Jackhammer) 36 00:01:24,668 --> 00:01:27,713 (Chatter) 37 00:01:29,798 --> 00:01:31,340 - Isn't that beautiful? 38 00:01:31,341 --> 00:01:32,341 - It's fantastic. 39 00:01:32,467 --> 00:01:35,469 - I'm just wondering what type of film it will be, 40 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:37,930 whether it will be all hippie 41 00:01:37,931 --> 00:01:40,183 or if this is to do with teenagers, 42 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:41,475 if it's to do with teenagers. 43 00:01:41,476 --> 00:01:44,186 I know that it isn't teenagers. 44 00:01:44,187 --> 00:01:46,105 All teenagers aren't hippies. 45 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:46,982 - Yeah. 46 00:01:46,983 --> 00:01:49,609 Well, you're not and you're here. 47 00:01:49,610 --> 00:01:51,090 - Yes, and that's what I'm wondering. 48 00:01:51,361 --> 00:01:54,113 - The kids are deciding what the film's going to be. 49 00:01:54,114 --> 00:01:54,948 Is that right? 50 00:01:54,949 --> 00:01:58,743 - It's pretty difficult to argue with 30 kids. 51 00:01:58,744 --> 00:02:01,371 (Laughter) 52 00:02:02,748 --> 00:02:04,749 - So, oh, what a freak show. 53 00:02:04,750 --> 00:02:07,002 (Laughter) 54 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:10,172 (Doo-wop music) 55 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:14,050 - Is anyone... oh, it's me. 56 00:02:14,051 --> 00:02:15,676 I'm getting two notes. 57 00:02:15,677 --> 00:02:17,803 - Take three. 58 00:02:17,804 --> 00:02:18,888 Here we go. 59 00:02:18,889 --> 00:02:20,432 Okay, let's do it. 60 00:02:22,893 --> 00:02:26,688 Christopher's movie matinee 61 00:02:33,278 --> 00:02:34,279 - You're it. 62 00:02:35,906 --> 00:02:40,534 We're going on a holiday 63 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:44,664 heading somewhere far away 64 00:02:44,665 --> 00:02:49,460 I don't like the cold anyway 65 00:02:49,461 --> 00:02:54,215 just want a little warmth every day 66 00:02:54,216 --> 00:02:57,093 and night 67 00:02:57,094 --> 00:03:02,099 if it's all right 68 00:03:02,474 --> 00:03:04,725 the rain is falling 69 00:03:04,726 --> 00:03:07,478 the month is June 70 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:09,438 I'm so jived 71 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:14,361 I can't resist the spoon of your sugar 72 00:03:14,528 --> 00:03:16,987 to sweeten 73 00:03:16,988 --> 00:03:20,491 the moon 74 00:03:20,492 --> 00:03:24,578 come let's make our getaway 75 00:03:24,579 --> 00:03:29,250 we can't last another day 76 00:03:29,251 --> 00:03:34,088 survival is the only way 77 00:03:34,089 --> 00:03:38,759 we're going on a holiday 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,220 find a way 79 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:44,015 we'll leave today 80 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:49,896 - I think you'd be wise to get a permit from... 81 00:03:51,022 --> 00:03:52,398 Mr. Thompson. 82 00:03:52,399 --> 00:03:55,401 - What do we need the permit for though? 83 00:03:55,402 --> 00:03:58,654 - You need a permit to take pictures in the park here, 84 00:03:58,655 --> 00:04:01,907 if they're to be used for other than private purposes. 85 00:04:01,908 --> 00:04:03,784 - Is there any place you can take pictures? 86 00:04:03,785 --> 00:04:04,661 - Pardon. 87 00:04:04,662 --> 00:04:05,786 - Is there any place you can take pictures 88 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:07,538 or is that all... 89 00:04:07,539 --> 00:04:09,915 - If you want to come in as a family and take your picture, 90 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:11,000 that's perfectly okay. 91 00:04:11,001 --> 00:04:13,043 - We're family. We're a family. 92 00:04:13,044 --> 00:04:13,920 - But if you want... 93 00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:16,255 If you want to come in and take pictures for the 94 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:17,840 national film board or, 95 00:04:17,841 --> 00:04:21,135 or for commercial... for television or something like that, 96 00:04:21,136 --> 00:04:23,846 I would think that it would be wise to get a permit 97 00:04:23,847 --> 00:04:28,852 from pw Thompson, the commissioner Metro parks department. 98 00:04:29,019 --> 00:04:31,021 - How long does it take to get a permit? 99 00:04:32,898 --> 00:04:34,732 - I don't know. He's down on the 10th floor, 100 00:04:34,733 --> 00:04:36,109 east tower, city hall. 101 00:04:36,526 --> 00:04:40,155 (Tires crunch on gravel) 102 00:04:44,659 --> 00:04:45,659 - Bye. 103 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:51,165 Be sure to bring your mandolin 104 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:55,419 we've got to keep our handle in 105 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:58,297 the pot 106 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:02,802 which after all is hot 107 00:05:02,803 --> 00:05:06,765 see the box we're finally in 108 00:05:08,058 --> 00:05:10,559 - no, we're just a group of kids, 109 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,144 but we've got some cameramen 110 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:13,688 from the national film board with us. 111 00:05:14,397 --> 00:05:18,443 We're laughing freaks who live to grin 112 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:21,320 - may I please ask for a permit 113 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,823 to be made out to a group of kids 114 00:05:23,824 --> 00:05:26,576 who are doing a film in the etienne brule park. 115 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:31,581 If you think this means we can win? 116 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:34,334 (Car honking) 117 00:05:41,925 --> 00:05:42,843 - Hello? 118 00:05:42,844 --> 00:05:44,219 - Who the hell is this? 119 00:05:45,095 --> 00:05:48,472 Baby, here's where we came in 120 00:05:48,473 --> 00:05:51,309 (cars whooshing) 121 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:55,938 Goodbye-a ye-a ye-a ye 122 00:05:55,939 --> 00:05:58,357 goodbye-aye-a ye 123 00:05:58,358 --> 00:06:00,693 I'm away 124 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:03,237 movie 125 00:06:03,238 --> 00:06:05,489 matinee 126 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:08,243 (cars whooshing) 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,121 - We have to get a permit, don't we? 128 00:06:12,122 --> 00:06:14,875 - She just wanted somebody to come down and sign it. 129 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:17,585 - Just one person or a whole bunch? 130 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:21,089 - She said one person. I said we'd all go. 131 00:06:25,343 --> 00:06:26,511 - Let's all go... 132 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,471 - Down to the 10th floor of the... 133 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:31,891 West building in the city hall. 134 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:33,642 And she gave me a list of rules, 135 00:06:33,643 --> 00:06:35,895 and she said that I was supposed to phone 136 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:40,358 this other division, but she said she'd do it for me. 137 00:06:42,485 --> 00:06:45,238 (Engine revving) 138 00:06:46,865 --> 00:06:48,407 - Malcolm's shooting. 139 00:06:48,408 --> 00:06:51,869 - Malcolm, have you got your license as a photographer? 140 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:54,413 - Whatever you turned on, you better turn it off fast. 141 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:55,539 - Get a shot of Malcolm shooting. 142 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:56,665 - Hey, look at that. Look at the duck. 143 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:57,542 - It's a Mallard. 144 00:06:57,542 --> 00:06:58,418 - Money. 145 00:06:58,418 --> 00:06:59,294 - You're wasting our film, mort. 146 00:06:59,295 --> 00:07:01,170 - Cause it's running out. (Laughter) 147 00:07:01,171 --> 00:07:03,297 - Is next week gonna be spontaneous? 148 00:07:03,298 --> 00:07:04,298 - Some guy's gonna have a little script 149 00:07:04,299 --> 00:07:05,299 and he knows what he's gonna say... 150 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:06,550 - No, not a script. No script. 151 00:07:06,551 --> 00:07:07,927 - So be spontaneous then. 152 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:09,136 - Yeah, well some guy will just say, 153 00:07:09,137 --> 00:07:11,680 this is roughly what we want to say and say it 154 00:07:11,681 --> 00:07:13,682 'cause we've got to have some idea of what we want to do 155 00:07:13,683 --> 00:07:15,893 if we're shooting an actual scene. 156 00:07:15,894 --> 00:07:18,562 Like the one... there's gonna be a scene with this guy, 157 00:07:18,563 --> 00:07:20,648 like a mock of an army sergeant. 158 00:07:20,649 --> 00:07:22,900 We just tell him roughly what we want him to say. 159 00:07:22,901 --> 00:07:25,903 - But we have to really know what he's gonna say. 160 00:07:25,904 --> 00:07:27,571 - He should think it over in his head first, 161 00:07:27,572 --> 00:07:29,156 so he doesn't get all mixed up. 162 00:07:29,157 --> 00:07:31,034 - I can't afford that footage. 163 00:07:32,661 --> 00:07:34,453 - Hey, another cop. 164 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:36,330 - Malcolm will pay for it. 165 00:07:36,331 --> 00:07:37,331 Don't worry about it. 166 00:07:37,332 --> 00:07:40,167 - I think we have a friend of the friendly men in blue here. 167 00:07:40,168 --> 00:07:40,961 - All right. 168 00:07:40,962 --> 00:07:42,086 - This is supposed to be part of his duty. 169 00:07:42,087 --> 00:07:42,963 - Really? 170 00:07:42,963 --> 00:07:43,797 - And punching babies 171 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:44,673 - oh no. 172 00:07:44,674 --> 00:07:46,674 - I know, but you're gonna get nailed for police brutality, 173 00:07:46,675 --> 00:07:47,925 even if he hits you first. 174 00:07:47,926 --> 00:07:50,552 - You can have a stick, and hit him over the head though. 175 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:51,346 - When was the last time 176 00:07:51,347 --> 00:07:53,847 somebody was nailed for police brutality? 177 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:54,808 Give me an example. 178 00:07:54,809 --> 00:07:56,100 - Who's gonna nail them? 179 00:07:56,101 --> 00:07:57,601 - Yeah, the police? 180 00:07:57,602 --> 00:07:58,602 - No. 181 00:07:58,603 --> 00:08:01,689 - Anybody see wojeck the other night? 182 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:04,484 (Engine revving) 183 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,236 - Five minutes ago, before I come down here, 184 00:08:07,237 --> 00:08:08,363 I stopped a car. 185 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:11,865 Two fellas in this car fit the description to a t 186 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:14,244 for armed robbery yesterday. 187 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:17,955 Now, if I just let them go, 188 00:08:17,956 --> 00:08:21,625 for fear of police brutality, what would that make me? 189 00:08:21,626 --> 00:08:25,838 (Chatter) 190 00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:27,756 - So the judge would have to interpret it. 191 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:28,633 - Mmm-hmm. 192 00:08:28,634 --> 00:08:29,717 - We rest our case. 193 00:08:29,718 --> 00:08:30,884 - Yes, can we steal one of these? 194 00:08:30,885 --> 00:08:32,761 You've only got one left anyway. 195 00:08:32,762 --> 00:08:34,931 (Laughter) 196 00:08:36,558 --> 00:08:38,518 - Should make about 15 out here. 197 00:08:38,935 --> 00:08:40,060 - I think we're worrying about 198 00:08:40,061 --> 00:08:42,312 what's the purpose of the film? 199 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:44,940 What's the nature of it? 200 00:08:44,941 --> 00:08:48,944 - So far, for the past week, we haven't had any... 201 00:08:48,945 --> 00:08:52,031 - Now what if I told you that I thought the shot was... 202 00:08:52,032 --> 00:08:54,034 Uh, was stupid. 203 00:08:54,951 --> 00:08:56,577 Should I go ahead and shoot it anyway, 204 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:58,829 because then I'm putting my professional reputation 205 00:08:58,830 --> 00:09:00,706 on the line as a cameraman. 206 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:01,583 - Yeah. 207 00:09:01,584 --> 00:09:04,335 - Well, tell us what you think of it before you... 208 00:09:04,961 --> 00:09:07,588 What you think of the whole situation. 209 00:09:07,589 --> 00:09:09,465 - It shouldn't be just up to any one person 210 00:09:09,466 --> 00:09:10,341 to go up to you and say, 211 00:09:10,342 --> 00:09:11,467 I think you ought to shoot this 212 00:09:11,468 --> 00:09:13,677 because it's what I'm thinking and I like it. 213 00:09:13,678 --> 00:09:15,345 If it's a group effort, then everybody 214 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:18,057 ought to say whether they think it's a good idea or not. 215 00:09:18,058 --> 00:09:20,477 - We've been faced with all different policies. 216 00:09:22,604 --> 00:09:24,229 Like you say all right, if you don't like this, 217 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:26,356 go ahead and say so, all right. 218 00:09:26,357 --> 00:09:29,109 So Roger and I decided to film you getting mad at us. 219 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:31,361 You were gonna film us getting mad at you. 220 00:09:31,362 --> 00:09:32,488 Okay? 221 00:09:32,489 --> 00:09:35,365 So we do this and it kind of flops off in the first stage. 222 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:37,826 And then you come up and say we can't afford that. 223 00:09:37,827 --> 00:09:39,244 Yet you encouraged that sort of thing 224 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:40,996 in the first place. 225 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:41,997 What's the point, you see? 226 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:44,208 We're faced with all this different policy here. 227 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:45,501 If you want a film organized, 228 00:09:45,502 --> 00:09:48,629 we're vastly capable of organizing it, 229 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:50,881 we're capable of choosing the right sets, 230 00:09:50,882 --> 00:09:51,882 we can get... 231 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:54,635 You just sit back on your fannies and earn. 232 00:09:54,636 --> 00:09:56,386 We'll arrange the whole movie. 233 00:09:56,387 --> 00:09:57,888 We'll tell you, "bring the camera here," 234 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,640 and you can direct it from there on, 235 00:09:59,641 --> 00:10:01,517 and we'll have the whole movie ready for you. 236 00:10:01,518 --> 00:10:02,393 - Well, couldn't you ask... 237 00:10:02,394 --> 00:10:03,727 - And then you can edit it 238 00:10:03,728 --> 00:10:05,979 and do anything after that, 239 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:08,483 but I mean, tell us what you want for Pete's sake. 240 00:10:09,359 --> 00:10:12,111 - Couldn't you ask Martin to show me getting mad at you? 241 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:12,987 - I did. 242 00:10:12,988 --> 00:10:14,404 - Which you probably did anyway. 243 00:10:14,405 --> 00:10:15,156 - Sure he did. 244 00:10:15,157 --> 00:10:17,491 - No, but you didn't, did you? You took the camera. 245 00:10:17,492 --> 00:10:19,284 Do you wanna see the film that you shot? 246 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:20,786 What happens if it doesn't come out? 247 00:10:20,787 --> 00:10:22,663 Will you have me getting mad at you, 248 00:10:22,664 --> 00:10:23,789 if it doesn't come out? 249 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,499 - Martin will. Martin will. 250 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:28,043 - Well, I didn't object to Martin shooting me getting angry. 251 00:10:28,044 --> 00:10:28,878 Did I? 252 00:10:28,878 --> 00:10:29,671 - No. 253 00:10:29,672 --> 00:10:31,004 - I objected to you... 254 00:10:31,005 --> 00:10:35,384 I objected to you shooting off a roll of film. 255 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:37,803 - It wasn't a full roll when we got it. 256 00:10:37,804 --> 00:10:39,805 - No, but I didn't stop him right away either. 257 00:10:39,806 --> 00:10:43,517 - Yeah, but you didn't know right away either, did you? 258 00:10:43,518 --> 00:10:44,310 - Conflict. 259 00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:46,020 (Laughter) 260 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:50,065 - The point, you know, 261 00:10:50,066 --> 00:10:52,526 the point is we're not really giving you the... 262 00:10:52,527 --> 00:10:54,320 The camera, we're giving you the crew. 263 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:56,030 Like I don't object to... 264 00:10:56,031 --> 00:10:57,698 - All right so say that! 265 00:10:57,699 --> 00:10:58,949 But you haven't said that before, you see. 266 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:00,033 Now you've said it. 267 00:11:00,034 --> 00:11:00,952 All right, that's fine. 268 00:11:00,952 --> 00:11:01,828 - No, no, no. 269 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:03,704 I said it right at the very beginning, that we were... 270 00:11:03,705 --> 00:11:05,205 That what we would do is work out 271 00:11:05,206 --> 00:11:06,707 the filmic expression with you 272 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:08,041 while we were shooting. 273 00:11:08,042 --> 00:11:09,960 When you talk... when we talked about, 274 00:11:09,961 --> 00:11:12,171 when we talked about limits of control... 275 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:14,590 - But we haven't really, you know. You've said some, 276 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:16,717 but I mean, you know, just make it clear. 277 00:11:16,718 --> 00:11:19,428 Stand up now and say, "this is the way it's going to be," 278 00:11:19,429 --> 00:11:20,804 and we'll do it for you. 279 00:11:20,805 --> 00:11:21,723 - Well, 280 00:11:21,724 --> 00:11:23,432 - but I can't stand this way. 281 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:25,100 It's just messing around right now. 282 00:11:25,101 --> 00:11:26,727 I mean, it's fine for a few days. All right. 283 00:11:26,728 --> 00:11:29,688 We've got lots of pretty little cut shots, you know, 284 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:30,856 and everything will look fine. 285 00:11:30,857 --> 00:11:31,733 It'll look all so spontaneous, 286 00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:33,483 and everybody will think what a marvelous little film, 287 00:11:33,484 --> 00:11:34,724 but let's get down to business. 288 00:11:35,236 --> 00:11:38,114 ('60s rock music) 289 00:11:48,499 --> 00:11:50,459 Right out of sight 290 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:53,003 most every night 291 00:11:53,004 --> 00:11:58,008 no we are not afraid to fly 292 00:11:58,009 --> 00:12:02,596 we know to live is to die 293 00:12:02,597 --> 00:12:04,890 for me how 294 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:08,018 - oh, well... after all, they're only young. 295 00:12:08,019 --> 00:12:10,479 Some people 296 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,522 - they're only young. 297 00:12:12,523 --> 00:12:17,152 Just can't grow old 298 00:12:17,153 --> 00:12:19,030 - they'll get over it. 299 00:12:22,492 --> 00:12:26,286 Angel of death 300 00:12:26,287 --> 00:12:28,748 in my dreams 301 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:33,377 - the congestion is there only because people feel there is 302 00:12:33,378 --> 00:12:35,754 something freakish to look at. 303 00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:39,675 Lady strange 304 00:12:39,676 --> 00:12:42,010 we change 305 00:12:42,011 --> 00:12:43,929 today 306 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:45,555 - they feel that there shouldn't be any wars 307 00:12:45,556 --> 00:12:47,683 or everybody should be peaceful. 308 00:12:47,684 --> 00:12:50,687 It's not the way 309 00:12:51,813 --> 00:12:53,772 - that's almost impossible. 310 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:57,025 It was to be 311 00:12:57,026 --> 00:12:59,696 in your dream 312 00:13:02,198 --> 00:13:03,699 - carbon monoxide and everything. 313 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:04,950 It's making them all sick. 314 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:06,576 Funny how 315 00:13:06,577 --> 00:13:09,579 some people just 316 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:12,416 - that led quickly to a very dangerous situation. 317 00:13:12,417 --> 00:13:15,335 Can't grow gold 318 00:13:15,336 --> 00:13:17,087 (protest chant) 319 00:13:17,088 --> 00:13:20,341 - Close our streets! Close our streets! 320 00:13:21,843 --> 00:13:24,553 - Well, we've certainly had a lot of concern 321 00:13:24,554 --> 00:13:27,723 over what is going on at yorkville, 322 00:13:27,724 --> 00:13:29,308 and I took it upon myself 323 00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:31,685 and talked to these people called hippies. 324 00:13:31,686 --> 00:13:33,312 Now, they're not all bad. 325 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:34,605 Not all kids are bad, 326 00:13:35,606 --> 00:13:38,567 but sometimes you get a cancer area there, 327 00:13:38,568 --> 00:13:41,111 and we're trying to ferret that out. 328 00:13:41,112 --> 00:13:42,612 - If they at least wash their hair, 329 00:13:42,613 --> 00:13:44,489 they can wear it long if they want to. 330 00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:45,991 - And eating flowers and that sort of thing, 331 00:13:45,992 --> 00:13:47,617 - but I just can't see it, that's all. 332 00:13:47,618 --> 00:13:51,621 - I have learned one thing in life for sure. 333 00:13:51,622 --> 00:13:54,584 - You're on the hot seat, Jack, what are you gonna say for yourself? 334 00:13:55,376 --> 00:13:57,336 - Why are you here? 335 00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:59,629 - What do you have to say for yourself? 336 00:13:59,630 --> 00:14:01,006 - You'll never go to the top 337 00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:03,008 unless you have personal discipline. 338 00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:05,845 (Chatter) 339 00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:14,895 - Cause he assured me he'd be here five minutes to two. 340 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,146 - It is suggested by some of the group 341 00:14:16,147 --> 00:14:18,482 that they are on their way. 342 00:14:18,483 --> 00:14:20,650 - If I were their age, 343 00:14:20,651 --> 00:14:23,653 I would probably be a hippie myself. 344 00:14:23,654 --> 00:14:26,114 - Mr. Depoe there please. 345 00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:27,533 Mr. Depoe. 346 00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:31,411 - Whoa, they seem to be a bit... way out 347 00:14:31,412 --> 00:14:33,497 my way of thinking. 348 00:14:33,498 --> 00:14:35,500 - Is Mr. Depoe with you? 349 00:14:40,755 --> 00:14:42,798 - If we can find out who of Mr. Depoe's group is, sir. 350 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:43,633 We're not getting any answers. 351 00:14:43,634 --> 00:14:46,510 - This group that marched in... 352 00:14:46,511 --> 00:14:47,886 - Is Mr. Depoe with you? 353 00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:50,055 - But if we stop some of this, and this meeting today 354 00:14:50,056 --> 00:14:51,807 will do it. I am sure. 355 00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:54,017 We'll get these fellas on the right track, 356 00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:55,310 and try and help them, 357 00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:57,312 or maybe we'll have to have another one to get to it, 358 00:14:57,313 --> 00:14:59,523 but we get the right questions and the right answers. 359 00:14:59,524 --> 00:15:00,441 We'll accomplish them. 360 00:15:00,442 --> 00:15:01,566 And those parents, 361 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:04,694 there's no doubt about it. If a lot of this is stopped, 362 00:15:04,695 --> 00:15:06,822 those children will head for home. 363 00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:08,573 - Do they go to work at all, these people? 364 00:15:08,574 --> 00:15:10,701 (Chatter) 365 00:15:21,212 --> 00:15:23,422 - We have a few people who want to talk. 366 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:25,425 - Do you want to get them up here? 367 00:15:28,845 --> 00:15:30,345 - Well, I think they're just another little bit 368 00:15:30,346 --> 00:15:31,972 of human nature. 369 00:15:31,973 --> 00:15:34,099 - I wonder sometimes what happened to the girls that used to 370 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:36,101 like the boys that got their hair cut 371 00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,687 and wore after shave lotion and stuff like this. 372 00:15:38,688 --> 00:15:40,815 (Chatter) 373 00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:45,819 - We were queer in many ways, but not... 374 00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:47,863 Not as far out as they are. 375 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:49,489 - I don't see that they have to have bare feet 376 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:51,741 and beards to get their point across. 377 00:15:51,742 --> 00:15:54,619 - They dress and act and their hygiene 378 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,997 is different than it ever was 379 00:15:56,998 --> 00:15:59,124 to my knowledge in history 380 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:02,003 that I can find or to my... 381 00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:06,756 Knowledge and fact in this city who was born here, 382 00:16:06,757 --> 00:16:09,092 have I ever seen it it displayed in this way. 383 00:16:09,093 --> 00:16:10,093 - Please. 384 00:16:11,137 --> 00:16:12,013 - You Mr. Depoe? 385 00:16:12,013 --> 00:16:12,889 - Yes. 386 00:16:12,890 --> 00:16:14,097 - Thank you very much. 387 00:16:14,098 --> 00:16:16,600 - Oh, well it's very, very nice of you, 388 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:18,018 and thank you very much, sweetheart. 389 00:16:18,019 --> 00:16:21,021 Here. Can I give you a kiss? 390 00:16:21,022 --> 00:16:22,147 - Picture? 391 00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:24,901 (Applause) 392 00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,905 - This is one of the nicest bouquets 393 00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:31,281 I ever had in my life. 394 00:16:31,282 --> 00:16:34,493 When it comes from the heart, that's the important thing. 395 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,786 Remember, you'll never go to the top 396 00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:38,246 unless you remember, 397 00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:40,040 you gotta start at the bottom, 398 00:16:40,041 --> 00:16:42,501 and you gotta remember the fella just to the top of you 399 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,503 is your boss and the next step up, 400 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:47,297 you gotta have a boss and if you can learn to take it, 401 00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:49,633 you can learn to dish it out. 402 00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:52,177 (Applause) 403 00:16:52,178 --> 00:16:53,929 So whoever's first, Mr. Depoe, 404 00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:55,680 would you like to say something first? 405 00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:57,933 - Yeah. I'd just like to say 406 00:16:57,934 --> 00:17:01,144 that I'd like the thing to be as informal as possible. 407 00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,063 - It will be. 408 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:04,564 - I didn't realize that we were 409 00:17:04,565 --> 00:17:08,861 gonna have quite such a formal occasion as this, but 410 00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:12,155 I guess... 411 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,494 Maybe you can start off by asking some questions. 412 00:17:17,495 --> 00:17:18,912 Would you like to do that? 413 00:17:18,913 --> 00:17:20,539 - Yes, I will. 414 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:21,915 Number one, will you tell me... 415 00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:26,127 Perhaps the most difficult one, as you know, 416 00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:28,548 we all in this administration, 417 00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:31,758 on behalf of the mayor and the board 418 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:33,552 are in favor, most in favor 419 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,680 of the very wonderful place, yorkville. 420 00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:39,808 Yorkville is a Cosmopolitan area and certainly 421 00:17:39,809 --> 00:17:42,561 we need more of them in this city. 422 00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:45,189 We will do all we can to keep them healthy, 423 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,567 but the problem we have is for teenagers, 424 00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:51,444 have been accused of being disorderly. 425 00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:54,781 As you know, there's a long list of police convictions 426 00:17:54,782 --> 00:17:56,032 and lost people. 427 00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:57,701 A disorderly group, 428 00:17:57,702 --> 00:18:00,829 perhaps not intended by you, 429 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:05,333 has developed to a point where 430 00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:08,211 uneasiness rests in that area. 431 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:10,715 Now will somebody tell me why? 432 00:18:12,341 --> 00:18:14,844 - That's a very good question. 433 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:19,598 - I'm not too sure what you're really asking. 434 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,099 (Laughter) 435 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:23,685 - It seems there's a reason for... 436 00:18:23,686 --> 00:18:24,853 Are you working, may I ask? 437 00:18:24,854 --> 00:18:25,937 - No, I'm not. 438 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,480 - Well, then perhaps we'll hit that and... 439 00:18:27,481 --> 00:18:29,733 Nobody's condemning you for it... 440 00:18:29,734 --> 00:18:31,360 Perhaps we'll say then why... 441 00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,238 Do you wish not to work? 442 00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:38,241 We're trying to find out what can we do for this? 443 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,701 What is there? Do you want more recreation? 444 00:18:39,702 --> 00:18:43,496 Do you want some type of employment, 445 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:44,873 some type of schooling, 446 00:18:44,874 --> 00:18:47,500 something to give you aims or objects? 447 00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:50,503 Would you please tell us that answer? 448 00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:53,089 - I don't think it's a question of 449 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:56,009 just supplying facilities. 450 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:58,720 Certainly, for the most part, 451 00:18:58,721 --> 00:19:01,514 these kids drop out of jobs because they don't like the way 452 00:19:01,515 --> 00:19:03,892 that people are exploited by industry. 453 00:19:03,893 --> 00:19:06,269 They drop out of school because they don't like the way 454 00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:08,021 the school is operating. 455 00:19:08,022 --> 00:19:11,232 Practically all of the academic work in primary schools 456 00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:13,401 could be given in four years. 457 00:19:13,402 --> 00:19:16,404 That leaves people to wonder just what it is that they're 458 00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:18,657 spending the rest of the time teaching people. 459 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:20,116 A form of indoctrination probably, 460 00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:22,285 teaching kids how to sit in school 461 00:19:22,286 --> 00:19:24,496 with their hands properly folded on the desk, 462 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:27,290 to walk in single files down halls. 463 00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:30,377 - The statistics show that there are more people today 464 00:19:30,378 --> 00:19:34,130 employed as a result of that system than ever before 465 00:19:34,131 --> 00:19:35,382 in our history. 466 00:19:35,383 --> 00:19:37,425 - Perhaps there is another element, 467 00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:38,802 which should be considered. 468 00:19:38,803 --> 00:19:41,179 The personal pride and dignity people have 469 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:43,556 and their ability to be happy or satisfied 470 00:19:43,557 --> 00:19:44,766 with the job. 471 00:19:44,767 --> 00:19:46,434 - But you refer to the word dignity. 472 00:19:46,435 --> 00:19:47,811 Now that's a very good word. 473 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:50,438 A number of them there haven't been washed for weeks. 474 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:52,440 Now they aren't seeking dignity, are they? 475 00:19:52,441 --> 00:19:53,275 - All right then what... 476 00:19:53,276 --> 00:19:57,195 - They wish to live and be happy not to work because the 477 00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,031 greatest happiness is derived from working that I've found. 478 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,075 I think most of the people who... 479 00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:02,952 - Chairman... 480 00:20:02,953 --> 00:20:04,327 - Who have to work like I do... 481 00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,287 (Chatter) 482 00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:09,082 I'm interested in those who say... 483 00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:11,459 I'm interested in those that say "no." 484 00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:13,169 Well, now please tell us your psychology 485 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:14,838 because it's got me buffaloed 486 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:16,089 and I'm sure it'll have many 487 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:19,467 buffaloed when it's printed that you... 488 00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:21,469 - It's very nice to say the greatest happiness derives from 489 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:25,348 working when it seems to be an indication that our society 490 00:20:25,349 --> 00:20:27,809 is striving for more leisure time. 491 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:29,227 It looks like they're trying harder 492 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:30,854 not to have any happiness. 493 00:20:30,855 --> 00:20:32,105 - Well, that's a point, 494 00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:33,857 and I think you're quite right sometimes, 495 00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:36,609 and that's why there's so many things of amusement required 496 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,987 to keep the people busy in their spare time. 497 00:20:38,988 --> 00:20:42,490 But how are you going to live without earning a living? 498 00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:44,951 One can't live off the other. 499 00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:46,995 - Don't you think we're working at the moment 500 00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:49,706 by coming down here to talk to you? 501 00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:51,624 I mean, we're doing exactly what you're doing. 502 00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:53,877 You're talking to us. We're talking to you. 503 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:56,337 Only we're not getting paid for it. 504 00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:59,008 (Applause) 505 00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:04,721 - Have a sense of humor like you have, 506 00:21:04,722 --> 00:21:06,015 - it's not funny. 507 00:21:07,016 --> 00:21:09,768 You hold a position, probably to effect 508 00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:12,228 some sort of change, to help people. 509 00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:13,271 That's why you work. 510 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,731 - I have yes, an abundance. 511 00:21:14,732 --> 00:21:15,524 - All right. 512 00:21:15,525 --> 00:21:17,525 I think that's what a lot of the people here are doing. 513 00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:18,985 They're trying to help people. 514 00:21:18,986 --> 00:21:21,237 They're trying to effect some sort of change. 515 00:21:21,238 --> 00:21:22,363 - Well, that's what I'm trying to get at. 516 00:21:22,364 --> 00:21:23,990 I know you are. You've explained that, 517 00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:26,659 but tell us the change that you want to have occur 518 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:28,787 in society. We haven't got that yet. 519 00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:29,747 - We want people... 520 00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:30,872 - We know what you're doing, 521 00:21:30,873 --> 00:21:32,499 and what you'd like in a home, 522 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,542 but please tell us what the change is 523 00:21:34,543 --> 00:21:37,045 that you think this city could help you with 524 00:21:37,046 --> 00:21:39,881 in the federal units or provincial units to... 525 00:21:39,882 --> 00:21:42,926 - It's not the city itself it can help. 526 00:21:42,927 --> 00:21:44,052 It's the people in the city. 527 00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:46,179 - We're in a position to be able to speak for you probably 528 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:47,555 if there are some things that we can do. 529 00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:49,057 - Practice leaving us alone. 530 00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:51,434 - Unfortunately, society doesn't work that way. 531 00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,061 Just exactly the way you like it. 532 00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:55,147 - That's why we drop out. 533 00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:57,941 - Society doesn't work that way. 534 00:21:57,942 --> 00:21:59,693 - Of course you are, but... 535 00:22:00,945 --> 00:22:03,321 Democracy has laid down in rules that we don't... 536 00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:04,948 (Laughter) 537 00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:09,410 It means that the majority will always be in the authority. 538 00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:12,789 - Could you be very specific and honest and outline what you 539 00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:16,043 would like ideally yorkville to become? 540 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:18,837 - Well, I'd like yorkville to grow as 541 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:20,588 a shopping center. 542 00:22:20,589 --> 00:22:22,423 (Laughter) 543 00:22:22,424 --> 00:22:25,093 Of an unusual nature as it is, 544 00:22:25,094 --> 00:22:29,098 a place for artists to display their art, 545 00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:32,475 the coffee shops I like to see. 546 00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:34,811 I don't like to see them when they're in an area that 547 00:22:34,812 --> 00:22:36,729 they're going to disturb. 548 00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:39,232 If they're too close to the housing districts, 549 00:22:39,233 --> 00:22:41,734 that wouldn't be reasonable. 550 00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:42,611 - But you haven't... 551 00:22:42,612 --> 00:22:45,446 You haven't gone over the problems you 552 00:22:45,447 --> 00:22:48,491 have outlined for us and said what you want to be done about 553 00:22:48,492 --> 00:22:50,201 these problems, 554 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:53,621 how you would ideally like to deal with these problems, 555 00:22:53,622 --> 00:22:54,831 and I really don't see how leaving yorkville 556 00:22:54,832 --> 00:22:56,082 as a shopping center... 557 00:22:56,083 --> 00:22:58,376 - We'll have to discuss this at the board. 558 00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,502 This is exploratory, 559 00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:01,754 and I'm just as interested as you are in hearing these 560 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:02,755 answers to try. 561 00:23:02,756 --> 00:23:05,091 - I just wanted to know specifically what you wanted 562 00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:07,010 yorkville to become. Now I know. Thank you. 563 00:23:07,011 --> 00:23:07,887 - Yes. 564 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:08,762 - You know, 565 00:23:08,763 --> 00:23:11,097 contributing by furthering their mental powers 566 00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:14,267 or something like this and that isn't this a relevant 567 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:16,019 means of contributing to the society. 568 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:17,521 - Of course it is. 569 00:23:19,273 --> 00:23:20,481 - Is the secretary there? 570 00:23:20,482 --> 00:23:22,525 Tell him that I want him. 571 00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:24,527 We'll put that down for a study too. 572 00:23:24,528 --> 00:23:26,029 - The spiritual is so often ignored. 573 00:23:26,030 --> 00:23:28,281 - Would you take this up with Mr. Depoe? 574 00:23:28,282 --> 00:23:29,116 - Okay, yeah. 575 00:23:29,117 --> 00:23:30,533 - Will you? And tell him that 576 00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:32,410 I agree with you a hundred percent. 577 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:35,663 - See Mr. Miller, I was in Ottawa for three weeks 578 00:23:35,664 --> 00:23:37,666 before coming to Toronto... 579 00:23:39,168 --> 00:23:40,544 Well, what I found out in Ottawa. 580 00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:44,172 - Wait! This gentleman... go down with you 581 00:23:44,173 --> 00:23:45,381 to the cafeteria. 582 00:23:45,382 --> 00:23:47,176 Somebody will show him how. 583 00:23:55,309 --> 00:23:57,769 - So you take a tough stand on the thing, 584 00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:58,770 but the thing is that those kids, 585 00:23:58,771 --> 00:24:00,396 those kids went into a meeting. 586 00:24:00,397 --> 00:24:03,441 - Oh, those kids. All of a sudden they're kids? 587 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:04,442 They're not kids. 588 00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:07,195 - All right. Those young people. Those young adults. 589 00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:08,821 They went into a meeting and they spent... 590 00:24:08,822 --> 00:24:12,033 - Those young adults. - Eddie boy... Mr. Depoe? 591 00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:14,160 - Look, they've spent a long time. 592 00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:17,080 They spent about four hours talking to lamport, 593 00:24:17,081 --> 00:24:18,957 and all he did was laugh at them. 594 00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:23,336 They just refused to take the kids seriously. 595 00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:24,337 But what sense is that? 596 00:24:24,338 --> 00:24:25,713 What would any minority... 597 00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:27,298 What do the negroes in the states do 598 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:29,467 when people refuse to take their ills seriously? 599 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,094 - You want to talk about the negroes in the states 600 00:24:31,095 --> 00:24:32,845 or you want to talk about the boys up here? 601 00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:33,972 - They're both the same thing. 602 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:35,848 They're all reactionary movements. 603 00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:37,809 They're all reacting against the same thing. 604 00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:38,602 - Oh, come on. 605 00:24:38,603 --> 00:24:39,727 - They're reacting for different reasons. 606 00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:40,728 - Be your age, eh. 607 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,063 - They're reacting for different reasons. 608 00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:43,481 - Be your age. 609 00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:44,565 - I am my age. 610 00:24:44,566 --> 00:24:46,317 - Come on. 611 00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:47,236 You're comparing yourself 612 00:24:47,237 --> 00:24:49,362 to the negroes in the states already. 613 00:24:49,363 --> 00:24:50,488 - We're all reacting. 614 00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:52,491 - You ever been down there and seen them? 615 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:54,951 You ever been down and seen how the negroes live 616 00:24:54,952 --> 00:24:55,869 in the southern states? 617 00:24:55,870 --> 00:24:57,495 - Yes, I have. 618 00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:58,705 - And you compare yourself to them? 619 00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:00,331 - I compare myself in that 620 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:01,749 we're both reacting against something. 621 00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:02,750 -Mmmm. 622 00:25:04,378 --> 00:25:06,380 (Indistinct frustration) 623 00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:08,840 You're reacting against what? 624 00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:10,633 - Against your kind of world. 625 00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:11,884 - Against my kind of world, eh? 626 00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:13,512 - Yeah. 627 00:25:14,388 --> 00:25:15,388 - Well... 628 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,600 What I would say to you is this, 629 00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,144 and a friend of mine across there, 630 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:23,021 we were discussing this earlier. 631 00:25:23,022 --> 00:25:24,605 You know what I'd like to see? 632 00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:25,399 - What? 633 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,525 - I'd like to see the world turned back, you know, 634 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:29,736 20 years, 25 years, 635 00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:32,780 and I'd like to be standing in the gates of my barracks 636 00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:33,906 of my regimen, 637 00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:36,367 and I'd like to see all of you march in there 638 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:40,872 and you know what? I'd change your mind in one week. 639 00:25:40,873 --> 00:25:41,790 - No, you wouldn't. 640 00:25:41,791 --> 00:25:43,291 - Yes, I would, buddy. 641 00:25:43,292 --> 00:25:44,168 - No, you wouldn't. 642 00:25:44,168 --> 00:25:45,002 - Oh boy. 643 00:25:45,003 --> 00:25:46,669 (Laughter) 644 00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:48,171 - But what could you prove? 645 00:25:48,172 --> 00:25:49,006 - Huh? 646 00:25:49,006 --> 00:25:49,798 - What could you prove? 647 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:51,674 - Nothing, but I'd tell you what I'd do. 648 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:53,134 When I said march, you would march, 649 00:25:53,135 --> 00:25:56,054 and you wouldn't have your locks anymore. 650 00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:56,930 - Well, so what? 651 00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:57,765 - That's visual boy. 652 00:25:57,766 --> 00:25:59,557 - So what? What are you gonna prove? 653 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:00,434 - Nothing. 654 00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:02,310 - What on earth are you gonna prove? 655 00:26:02,311 --> 00:26:03,561 - Well, all of a sudden, you turn around and say... 656 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:04,771 - The world has had... 657 00:26:04,772 --> 00:26:07,190 - "I'm not a moon man anymore, I'm a human being." 658 00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:08,566 That's what you'd say, buddy boy. 659 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,818 - I say I'm a human being right now. 660 00:26:10,819 --> 00:26:13,321 - Well, we've got an argument there. 661 00:26:13,322 --> 00:26:15,073 - What on earth are you gonna prove 662 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,157 by making me do something 663 00:26:16,158 --> 00:26:18,034 at the jump of somebody else's will? 664 00:26:18,035 --> 00:26:19,035 - Well... 665 00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:21,537 - Look, the world has had thousands of years of soldiers, 666 00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:23,081 thousands of years of people jumping up 667 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:24,791 when the order was shouted. 668 00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:26,084 Isn't it about time that everybody starts 669 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:26,960 thinking for themselves? 670 00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:29,212 - You don't only jump up because the order's shouted, eh. 671 00:26:29,213 --> 00:26:30,089 All of a sudden you're something, 672 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:33,716 and you know what you are? Eh? 673 00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:37,220 You're a man and you ain't never gonna be a man 674 00:26:37,221 --> 00:26:39,598 while you're doing this. Honest to god. 675 00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:43,601 You're gonna reject everything, 676 00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:46,104 but you will never be a man. 677 00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,606 You can live to 90 and you will never be it. 678 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:50,733 - What's a man? 679 00:26:50,734 --> 00:26:53,361 - When you achieve manhood, you'll find out, buddy. 680 00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,571 I can't tell you. 681 00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:56,864 Okay? 682 00:26:56,865 --> 00:26:58,116 I'll tell you one thing. 683 00:26:58,117 --> 00:27:02,120 You won't be a man with pansies in your hair, you know? 684 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:03,122 Huh? 685 00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:06,874 Making like a Daisy chain and all this jazz, huh? 686 00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:08,876 No, sir. 687 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:13,089 You won't be a man like making like a bully either. 688 00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:14,132 - Well, isn't that what you're being 689 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:15,573 when you march us into the barracks. 690 00:27:16,385 --> 00:27:18,094 No, no, no, no. 691 00:27:18,095 --> 00:27:20,972 You apply a constitution and respect it. 692 00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,974 In other words, you conform. 693 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,892 - Well, what's the good of that? 694 00:27:24,893 --> 00:27:27,478 The world has had thousands of years of conforming. 695 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,647 - And it's been doing pretty darn good. 696 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:30,648 - It hasn't been. 697 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,275 It's been having some pretty hellish wars. 698 00:27:32,276 --> 00:27:35,153 - But we've done pretty good since the last one already. 699 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,155 - And we're gonna have another one already. 700 00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:39,115 - If we have another one, buddy, 701 00:27:39,116 --> 00:27:40,241 and you're in the army, 702 00:27:40,242 --> 00:27:42,160 I'm gonna go over to the other side. 703 00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:44,662 (Laughter) 704 00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:46,248 Don't ever tell me! 705 00:27:48,041 --> 00:27:49,376 - Jesus Christ. 706 00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:52,379 Come on. 707 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:54,672 We gonna have another war. 708 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,174 Who's gonna fight us? 709 00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:57,175 What do we got? 710 00:27:57,176 --> 00:27:58,676 - What are we gonna fight about? 711 00:27:58,677 --> 00:27:59,511 - Got the Navy. 712 00:27:59,512 --> 00:28:00,553 - This is it. 713 00:28:00,554 --> 00:28:02,430 - What are we gonna fight about? 714 00:28:02,431 --> 00:28:04,182 It's only because you push people into barracks, 715 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:05,433 and make them jump at the sound 716 00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:07,685 of somebody's order that we have wars. 717 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:08,562 - Ahhh. 718 00:28:08,563 --> 00:28:10,563 - What's there to fight about? 719 00:28:10,564 --> 00:28:12,023 - But you said we were gonna fight. 720 00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:13,441 I didn't say we were gonna fight. 721 00:28:13,442 --> 00:28:15,151 - I said you're gonna fight. I'm not gonna fight. 722 00:28:15,152 --> 00:28:16,444 - I say we settled it last time. 723 00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:18,279 - It's your world. You're still in charge. 724 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,198 - My world? 725 00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:21,324 Where did you go, the moon? 726 00:28:21,325 --> 00:28:22,159 - I'm here. 727 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,410 - So you stay here and it's your world too. 728 00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:25,287 - No. 729 00:28:25,288 --> 00:28:26,829 - And as soon as you face up the fact 730 00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:28,956 that when I'm an old man, staggering around 731 00:28:28,957 --> 00:28:31,584 in a wheelchair, buddy, you gotta look after me 732 00:28:31,585 --> 00:28:35,087 because I've been looking after you all your young life. 733 00:28:35,088 --> 00:28:36,088 - I didn't ask you to. 734 00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:38,591 - Start contributing. I didn't ask you to? 735 00:28:38,592 --> 00:28:40,468 I didn't ask to be born. 736 00:28:40,469 --> 00:28:42,095 Come on. Grow up. 737 00:28:43,055 --> 00:28:44,847 You know, make like a human being. 738 00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:46,682 - You're not facing the question. 739 00:28:46,683 --> 00:28:48,726 - Oh, I'm facing the question. 740 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:50,353 - I didn't ask to be born. 741 00:28:50,354 --> 00:28:53,856 - I know you didn't, and I feel sure that your mother 742 00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:58,611 and father also asked this question. Why? 743 00:28:58,612 --> 00:28:59,862 Huh? 744 00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,489 (Laughter) 745 00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:03,366 - You ever said that to me and I was your dad, 746 00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:05,368 oh man, we would get together. 747 00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:06,494 - Yeah. 748 00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,246 - I'm telling you. 749 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,874 We'd have a father and son chat, 750 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,752 and that is for sure. 751 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,256 - Take 100. Roll 37. 752 00:29:18,131 --> 00:29:19,840 A centennial special. 753 00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:21,510 (Laughter) 754 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:23,637 - Remember this man? 755 00:29:23,638 --> 00:29:26,138 Remember at the city hall the other day? 756 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:28,224 - Oh, that's right, yes. 757 00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:30,018 - He just tried the earphones. 758 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:32,646 - Yeah, great. 759 00:29:33,981 --> 00:29:35,232 - You're gonna be in the movie. 760 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:37,149 - Tom. 761 00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:39,860 Cathy. 762 00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:40,654 Tom. 763 00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:41,655 Everyone. 764 00:29:41,655 --> 00:29:42,489 - Thanks a lot. 765 00:29:42,489 --> 00:29:43,489 - Tom! 766 00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:46,159 What we're doing... 767 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:49,287 We're doing this scene in which you turn the camera on, 768 00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:50,538 you know? 769 00:29:50,539 --> 00:29:52,290 So everybody has to look 770 00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:55,376 for beautiful images on this street 771 00:29:55,377 --> 00:29:59,547 for Richard and Martin at times, 772 00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:01,299 to photograph. Okay? 773 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:02,300 So look for things. 774 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:03,926 You remember we started doing the other day. 775 00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:04,803 - Yeah. 776 00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:05,928 - See what things you can find. Everyone. 777 00:30:05,929 --> 00:30:07,805 Any suggestions are welcome 778 00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:10,183 as to what we can shoot on the street. 779 00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:14,562 (Whistling) 780 00:30:14,563 --> 00:30:15,689 - Don't forget the binder. 781 00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:20,902 - That was tremendous. 782 00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:30,828 - What do you got? 783 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,039 - What have I got? 784 00:30:35,709 --> 00:30:38,711 - How about these flowers? 785 00:30:38,712 --> 00:30:41,298 - They're not very colorful. 786 00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:45,843 - There's a lot of little flowers back there 787 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:47,595 that are rather beautiful, you know, 788 00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:50,431 in a way because they're just inconspicuous, 789 00:30:50,432 --> 00:30:53,434 just sort of sitting there minding their own business. 790 00:30:53,435 --> 00:30:55,186 Why don't you film some of those? 791 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,188 - The flowers are obvious. 792 00:30:57,189 --> 00:31:00,691 What you said you wanted earlier was to try and get things 793 00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:02,693 that look drab at first glance. 794 00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:03,819 - Well, that looks drab. 795 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:05,821 Look at the scene. It's a cold wall 796 00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,449 and dirty white paint. 797 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:11,994 And yet in this green and a little bit of beauty there. 798 00:31:11,995 --> 00:31:13,621 - I mean, it'll be a sensational thing 799 00:31:13,622 --> 00:31:15,374 if you can turn this... 800 00:31:17,626 --> 00:31:19,086 This is drab. 801 00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:26,009 - I mean, this is really drab. 802 00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:31,139 - Is this a real zoom in thing? 803 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:33,224 - That shot is feasible. 804 00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:36,102 - So should it be done? Is it... 805 00:31:36,103 --> 00:31:39,230 - Should it be done is not my business. 806 00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:41,108 I just say it's feasible. 807 00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:43,984 - Yeah, but is it feasible with good quality 808 00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:47,239 or bad quality, cinematically speaking? 809 00:31:49,533 --> 00:31:51,659 - Well, that depends on your standards of quality. 810 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:54,495 - Well, we have a good cameraman, okay. 811 00:31:54,496 --> 00:31:56,288 - It's not a matter of good and bad. 812 00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:57,124 No, no. 813 00:31:57,125 --> 00:31:59,793 It's not good or bad. It's a matter of... 814 00:32:03,505 --> 00:32:04,755 (Whistling) 815 00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:08,676 Being a certain shot for a certain type of film. 816 00:32:08,677 --> 00:32:09,802 - Yeah. 817 00:32:09,803 --> 00:32:11,303 - Like what I'm going have to do... 818 00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:12,430 You want me to go all through 819 00:32:12,431 --> 00:32:13,764 these different things here, right? 820 00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:14,558 - Yeah. 821 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,308 - A, it'll be handheld, so it'll be shaky, 822 00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:17,185 okay? 823 00:32:17,186 --> 00:32:19,562 It won't be on a tripod. 824 00:32:19,563 --> 00:32:21,689 You can't say whether that's good or bad 825 00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:23,316 because good or bad 826 00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:26,193 depends on the situation. 827 00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:27,070 You know? 828 00:32:27,071 --> 00:32:30,030 - It's got to be the feeling of this big space out here. 829 00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:30,824 - Yeah. 830 00:32:30,825 --> 00:32:33,284 - So you've got to get rid of this thing. 831 00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:35,161 I mean, you're right up to the bay street sign, 832 00:32:35,162 --> 00:32:39,541 even at the the shortest magnification. 833 00:32:41,209 --> 00:32:42,334 So that's no good. 834 00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:47,299 - You go from space to a very, very small detail shot. 835 00:32:48,217 --> 00:32:51,970 We need lenses for the camera, Richard. 836 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,849 Turn off that stupid camera and get me some lenses. 837 00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:59,852 - We need other lenses. 838 00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:01,228 - I'm in charge now, okay? 839 00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:02,730 Mort is no longer director. 840 00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:05,191 I'm in charge, as far as this sequence goes. 841 00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:07,109 - When did this happen? 842 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:08,944 - Mort just said so a minute ago. 843 00:33:08,945 --> 00:33:11,322 All right. I'm directing this sequence, right? 844 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,199 - Nobody said you're directing. 845 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,116 - You said I could tell him what to do, 846 00:33:14,117 --> 00:33:15,367 and he would do it. 847 00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,745 You said I could tell him what to do and he would do it. 848 00:33:17,746 --> 00:33:18,497 Didn't you? 849 00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:21,749 - No, I said you could advise him what to do. 850 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:23,751 - You said go in and get your point 851 00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:25,002 and make sure about it. 852 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,879 - Yeah, make sure you get your point across. 853 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,756 Sure. 854 00:33:27,757 --> 00:33:29,340 - Well, make sure you get your point across. 855 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:30,133 Tell him. 856 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:31,009 - Well, come on Martin. 857 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:32,259 We've gotta shoot this thing. 858 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:33,220 - Tell him what you want. 859 00:33:33,221 --> 00:33:35,012 It doesn't matter whether he does it right now. 860 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,389 - Turn around. Okay? 861 00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:39,892 You know, we've gotta have the shot of the street. 862 00:33:39,893 --> 00:33:41,018 - Shot of the street. 863 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,019 - Yeah. 864 00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:45,397 - Can I get a feeling of space? 865 00:33:45,398 --> 00:33:48,026 - A feeling of space. Okay. I zoom back. 866 00:33:49,402 --> 00:33:51,237 I got it. Now what? 867 00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:54,156 - Okay, now we want to get a zoom shot, 868 00:33:54,157 --> 00:33:55,533 which connects this space 869 00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:57,868 with the space of the sign back here. 870 00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,662 - A zoom shot, which connects that space 871 00:33:59,663 --> 00:34:00,788 with the space over here. 872 00:34:00,789 --> 00:34:01,789 Hold my glasses. 873 00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:05,168 - Okay? 874 00:34:05,169 --> 00:34:06,544 - Yeah. 875 00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:08,296 - Space of the street 876 00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:12,341 and this sign here. 877 00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:13,842 - Fairweather. 878 00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:15,094 The fashion store. 879 00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:17,096 - Doreen, stand up on the sign, okay? 880 00:34:17,097 --> 00:34:17,931 - Now what? 881 00:34:17,932 --> 00:34:20,308 - Like we're gonna shoot you up there. 882 00:34:21,935 --> 00:34:24,354 Ken? Can you move? Okay? 883 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,982 - Okay, now get a shot... 884 00:34:27,983 --> 00:34:29,483 Now get a shot of Doreen, 885 00:34:29,484 --> 00:34:31,694 leaning through the bars there. 886 00:34:31,695 --> 00:34:34,697 - Doreen leaning through the bars? 887 00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:36,865 Tight or loose? 888 00:34:36,866 --> 00:34:38,867 - Whatever you think's better. 889 00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:40,579 I think fairly middle. 890 00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:43,582 Just a fairly general scene. 891 00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:49,879 Okay? 892 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,005 - Okay, I got it. 893 00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,757 - Now we're gonna move behind the bars. 894 00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,009 - We're gonna move behind the bars. 895 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:56,719 - Yeah, get in the dark space there. 896 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,514 - Now you go first and show me and I'll follow. 897 00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:08,022 What? 898 00:35:08,023 --> 00:35:12,401 - We want a shot from about here over to this tree trunk. 899 00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:15,237 Just get the nice little area in here, 900 00:35:15,238 --> 00:35:17,865 this little groove and pan up to there 901 00:35:17,866 --> 00:35:20,618 to get a feeling of the sunlight and the leaves up high. 902 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:22,287 - Sunlight and leaves up high. Okay. 903 00:35:23,163 --> 00:35:24,997 I'm gonna have to pull aperture on this, 904 00:35:24,998 --> 00:35:26,541 so it may not be... 905 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:31,670 An absolutely technically perfect shot. 906 00:35:31,671 --> 00:35:34,506 I'm also gonna have to take the shoulder base camera 907 00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:35,800 off my shoulder. 908 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:45,310 - Somebody's standing right in the frame there. 909 00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,450 Now what? 910 00:36:01,451 --> 00:36:03,702 - Okay, now we wanna move back and get a feeling 911 00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:06,538 of the outer space through these bars. 912 00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:09,458 - Outer space through these bars. 913 00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:11,044 - Work in the kids too. 914 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,712 - Work in the kids too. 915 00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:16,090 - Get the buses and the traffic back there. 916 00:36:16,091 --> 00:36:17,966 - Buses and traffic. 917 00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:19,344 Who am I hitting? 918 00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:27,059 - We want some street noise too. 919 00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:29,437 - And street noise. Get street noise. 920 00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:41,699 - That's about it unless you want to return 921 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,992 to the little grove and emphasize the idea that 922 00:36:43,993 --> 00:36:46,203 there's some beauty here behind the street, 923 00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:47,996 and the contrast between the city space 924 00:36:47,997 --> 00:36:48,957 and the space down here. 925 00:36:48,958 --> 00:36:51,250 - Do you still want the street? 926 00:36:51,251 --> 00:36:52,085 - No. 927 00:36:52,086 --> 00:36:53,210 - We better get this slated. 928 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,629 - Okay, let's have a slate. 929 00:36:58,091 --> 00:37:00,134 - Take 106, roll 38. 930 00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:01,468 - There's a shot here we're supposed to... 931 00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:02,387 - Did you get your shot? 932 00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:03,221 - Yeah. 933 00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:04,513 Except if you want to finish it off 934 00:37:04,514 --> 00:37:07,141 with another shot of the greenery. 935 00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:08,767 - Another shot? I did one already. 936 00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:11,145 - Okay, fine. If you think that's enough. 937 00:37:11,146 --> 00:37:12,730 - If I think it's enough for what? 938 00:37:12,731 --> 00:37:14,857 - Well, you know, I just wanna emphasize the fact 939 00:37:14,858 --> 00:37:16,608 that what's behind there is totally different, 940 00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:17,902 yet it's very close. 941 00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:23,907 - You wanna do a pan shot then from the street into here? 942 00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:24,784 - Yeah. 943 00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:25,618 - Pan shot. 944 00:37:25,619 --> 00:37:28,162 - Clear out of the way everybody. 945 00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:29,414 Watch out. 946 00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:35,794 Pan shot coming up. 947 00:37:35,795 --> 00:37:37,505 (Tires screeching) 948 00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:47,766 That's one stop underexposed in here. 949 00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:50,392 If you want it technically perfect, 950 00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:51,393 we'll have to get lights. 951 00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:52,436 - Okay, that's enough. 952 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:55,522 - You want to get it technically perfect with lights? 953 00:37:55,523 --> 00:37:56,523 - No. 954 00:37:57,192 --> 00:37:58,192 Okay. 955 00:37:59,152 --> 00:38:01,320 You got what you want, mort? 956 00:38:01,321 --> 00:38:02,447 - What I want. 957 00:38:03,573 --> 00:38:05,949 - That's the craziest shot I've ever done in my life. 958 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:07,326 - Why? 959 00:38:07,327 --> 00:38:08,327 - Well, why didn't you tell them 960 00:38:08,328 --> 00:38:09,828 it's a crazy shot instead of doing it. 961 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:11,955 If you don't don't believe in something, don't do it. 962 00:38:11,956 --> 00:38:13,582 - Crazy is not necessarily bad. 963 00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:14,417 It was fun. 964 00:38:14,418 --> 00:38:15,834 I kinda got out of my confusion 965 00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:18,670 by doing the very confused shot. 966 00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:20,089 (Laughter) 967 00:38:23,468 --> 00:38:25,594 - I'm sorry, I don't speak about anything 968 00:38:25,595 --> 00:38:27,971 that I don't know anything about, 969 00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:31,099 and Vietnam war I don't know anything about. 970 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,353 - It's been going on for a whole year. 971 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,730 For more than that. 972 00:38:36,731 --> 00:38:38,190 - Well, if it's been going on for years, 973 00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:40,735 I don't know how you know so much about it. 974 00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:44,613 - I'm not pretending to know a terrible amount about it, 975 00:38:44,614 --> 00:38:46,073 I just... I do feel involved 976 00:38:46,074 --> 00:38:48,575 in things I read in the newspaper about it. 977 00:38:48,576 --> 00:38:52,080 Some of the reports I've read about the casualties. 978 00:38:53,248 --> 00:38:56,209 I guess we've all seen some of those horrible pictures, 979 00:38:57,377 --> 00:38:59,002 and you spoke of your group. 980 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:02,965 The eastern star is doing a great deal of good work, 981 00:39:02,966 --> 00:39:05,259 and I thought this is another area where you could do a lot 982 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:06,844 of good work and help people 983 00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:08,512 that are really in desperate need, 984 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:09,389 people that are... 985 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:11,890 Crippled and burnt and torn by war every day, 986 00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:15,353 while we're sitting here and talking, it's happening. 987 00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:20,774 And you yourself said war was a terrible thing. 988 00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:22,776 Please tell me if you think I'm all off. 989 00:39:22,777 --> 00:39:26,363 I'm just... I feel a very, very deep commitment, 990 00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:27,656 a deep involvement, 991 00:39:27,657 --> 00:39:31,159 and I want to understand how other people feel about it. 992 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,663 - You haven't gotten your head... 993 00:39:34,789 --> 00:39:35,998 - Are you angry at me? 994 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:37,667 (Chatter) 995 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:45,299 - Look, Tom. 996 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:47,551 - That point is this all has to cut in 997 00:39:47,552 --> 00:39:49,554 with you walking down the street, 998 00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:53,181 and these are things that you would see. 999 00:39:53,182 --> 00:39:54,808 Now do you think you would see a ladybug or... 1000 00:39:54,809 --> 00:39:56,310 - Yeah, they always fly on me. 1001 00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:57,186 - Eh? 1002 00:39:57,187 --> 00:39:58,687 - If you turn on the camera, 1003 00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,815 minute detail is one of the things you always notice. 1004 00:40:01,816 --> 00:40:03,317 - It seems logical to you? 1005 00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:05,193 Would you find one on the street when you walk along? 1006 00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:06,945 - A lot of the time they fly onto you, 1007 00:40:06,946 --> 00:40:08,447 like you just walking along and all of a sudden it's on. 1008 00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:09,907 - In the other shot, you'll have to pretend 1009 00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,450 that one flies onto you, right? 1010 00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,827 - Yeah, and I'll just look at it. 1011 00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:17,414 And you'll have me looking on it then all of a sudden zoom. 1012 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:18,957 Like that can be the first shot. 1013 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:20,208 Like I'll be walking down the street, 1014 00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,085 all of a sudden a ladybug will hit me, 1015 00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,587 and then I'll look at it, 1016 00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:26,840 and all of a sudden I'll get kind of enmeshed 1017 00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:28,717 in just the ladybug. 1018 00:40:28,718 --> 00:40:30,571 And another shot coming out 'cause when you come out 1019 00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:33,472 everything kind of spans right out. 1020 00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:35,098 It's like coming from a little... 1021 00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:37,559 A different little world into a whole new one. 1022 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,561 It's like rebirth almost, just coming out of the alley. 1023 00:40:39,562 --> 00:40:40,604 - You better save the ladybug, 1024 00:40:40,605 --> 00:40:42,481 so you'll have it for the long shot. 1025 00:40:42,482 --> 00:40:45,609 - Yeah, we've been hanging onto it for a long time. 1026 00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:48,988 Well, we gotta have Pilar playing herself 1027 00:40:49,948 --> 00:40:52,574 in the credits 'cause that's her name. 1028 00:40:52,575 --> 00:40:53,575 Okay? 1029 00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:56,370 I got a great idea for a fantasy, 1030 00:40:56,371 --> 00:40:58,497 like when I see the bug on my hand, 1031 00:40:58,498 --> 00:41:01,625 I look at it and then there's a picture of me 1032 00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:04,753 leading about 50 ladybugs and they're all reciting 1033 00:41:04,754 --> 00:41:07,631 Thomas my Shepherd, I shall not want. 1034 00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:08,633 - Take a look. Quick. 1035 00:41:11,761 --> 00:41:13,721 Turn your hand over. Turn your hand over. 1036 00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:28,903 (Chatter) 1037 00:41:29,779 --> 00:41:30,655 - Well, if you're not angry... 1038 00:41:30,656 --> 00:41:33,281 If I haven't insulted you personally, 1039 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,158 do you just think I'm being... 1040 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:36,743 - I think you're speaking about something 1041 00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:38,412 that you know nothing about 1042 00:41:38,413 --> 00:41:40,914 when you speak of Vietnam. 1043 00:41:40,915 --> 00:41:42,916 - Are you saying this because you feel you know 1044 00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:44,668 more than me and I've made some dreadful mistake? 1045 00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:46,128 - No, I don't know anything about Vietnam. 1046 00:41:46,129 --> 00:41:48,296 That's why I won't say anything about Vietnam. 1047 00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:49,923 - My curiosity is why haven't you bothered 1048 00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:51,258 to learn more about it 1049 00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:54,177 when this is a war, and people are dying. 1050 00:41:54,178 --> 00:41:55,429 And if you feel it's awful, 1051 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:57,556 then why haven't you bothered to learn more about it 1052 00:41:57,557 --> 00:41:59,307 and learn how you could help in it, 1053 00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:00,559 how you could learn to stop it, 1054 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,685 how you could help the people 1055 00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:03,937 that are being so terribly hurt? 1056 00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:07,774 - An individual like you and I can't help Vietnam 1057 00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:10,277 when the American people themselves... 1058 00:42:10,278 --> 00:42:13,321 There's thousands of the mothers in the United States 1059 00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:17,659 is trying to get this war stopped and they can't. 1060 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:20,579 So why should we in Canada here 1061 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:22,707 try and do anything about it? 1062 00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:27,335 - Well, ask Canadians to produce a great many of the... 1063 00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:29,921 Well, I just think that more individuals 1064 00:42:29,922 --> 00:42:32,716 that get together on this thing, you know, 1065 00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:35,594 the greater the movement against Vietnam, 1066 00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:39,181 and you're not an individual. You belong to a group. 1067 00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:40,974 - You're speaking about something that 1068 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:42,809 you know nothing about, the same as I. 1069 00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:44,604 I know nothing about Vietnam, 1070 00:42:45,605 --> 00:42:47,105 and you're only a child, 1071 00:42:47,106 --> 00:42:50,943 so I don't see how you can know anything about Vietnam. 1072 00:42:53,112 --> 00:42:55,697 - Switch now because we shot so much. 1073 00:42:55,698 --> 00:42:57,200 - We lost the bug. 1074 00:42:59,202 --> 00:43:00,745 - You lost the bug? 1075 00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:03,872 - That's the first law. 1076 00:43:03,873 --> 00:43:05,958 - Hey, maybe we can find it with this thing. 1077 00:43:06,876 --> 00:43:07,876 - Don't step on it. 1078 00:43:07,877 --> 00:43:08,753 - Bug. 1079 00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:09,587 - Don't step on it. 1080 00:43:09,588 --> 00:43:11,713 - Pilar. 1081 00:43:11,714 --> 00:43:14,007 - Do you think you can do your sequence without the bug? 1082 00:43:14,008 --> 00:43:14,884 - Pilar. 1083 00:43:14,885 --> 00:43:16,134 - We gotta find the bug though. 1084 00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:17,011 - Careful! 1085 00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:17,845 - Then I could kind of think... 1086 00:43:17,846 --> 00:43:20,514 - Careful! We can't shoot the scene without that bug. 1087 00:43:20,515 --> 00:43:21,641 (Laughs) 1088 00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:24,977 - Bugs are a necessary part of life. 1089 00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,147 You should feed it. It looks... 1090 00:43:30,858 --> 00:43:32,651 You can't even find it with this thing. 1091 00:43:32,652 --> 00:43:33,902 This is hopeless. 1092 00:43:33,903 --> 00:43:34,862 - You know what it does? 1093 00:43:34,863 --> 00:43:36,404 It gets under a whole pile of grass, 1094 00:43:36,405 --> 00:43:37,739 like it was doing that over there, 1095 00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:40,784 but I always knew what area it was in before. 1096 00:43:40,785 --> 00:43:43,037 The wind just blew it off right... 1097 00:43:45,999 --> 00:43:47,541 - Okay, what about this... 1098 00:43:47,542 --> 00:43:48,542 - Well, that's what I hate. 1099 00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:49,543 It's about the whole thing. 1100 00:43:49,544 --> 00:43:51,670 You constantly have to be on the move, you know, 1101 00:43:51,671 --> 00:43:53,505 or you're dead. I mean, like, 1102 00:43:53,506 --> 00:43:55,173 that's connected with yorkville. People... 1103 00:43:55,174 --> 00:43:57,634 They can't stand people just sitting there doing nothing, 1104 00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:00,011 you know, like freeways are the same thing. 1105 00:44:00,012 --> 00:44:02,180 The whole america and Canada 1106 00:44:02,181 --> 00:44:04,891 are geared toward moving places 1107 00:44:04,892 --> 00:44:06,184 and there's no place to go. 1108 00:44:06,185 --> 00:44:08,937 Expressways are going through, knocking down buildings, 1109 00:44:08,938 --> 00:44:09,772 you know? 1110 00:44:09,773 --> 00:44:13,650 I mean, it's becoming part of a mobile culture. 1111 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:14,693 You know, like this thing, 1112 00:44:14,694 --> 00:44:17,529 this drive-in restaurant, drive-in banks, 1113 00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:21,575 drive-in drive-ins, you know, to make out in, constant... 1114 00:44:21,576 --> 00:44:24,202 I mean, pretty soon people will be having babies in cars, 1115 00:44:24,203 --> 00:44:26,204 getting buried in cars, we're gonna have to 1116 00:44:26,205 --> 00:44:29,082 have floating cemeteries with, you know, 1117 00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:31,585 corpses constantly on the move. 1118 00:44:31,586 --> 00:44:33,712 And so we're gonna get like that until finally just, 1119 00:44:33,713 --> 00:44:36,173 you know, you're gonna be very lucky 1120 00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:38,967 if you can sit still for a second. 1121 00:44:38,968 --> 00:44:40,468 (Crew laughing) 1122 00:44:40,469 --> 00:44:41,345 That's it. 1123 00:44:41,346 --> 00:44:42,930 - Isn't that great. 1124 00:44:45,433 --> 00:44:46,433 - That's terrific. 1125 00:44:46,434 --> 00:44:47,310 Okay. 1126 00:44:47,311 --> 00:44:48,935 (Chanting) 1127 00:44:48,936 --> 00:44:53,481 - Close our street! Close our street! Close our street! 1128 00:44:53,482 --> 00:44:55,859 Close our street! Close our street! 1129 00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:57,361 (Chanting continues) 1130 00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:06,369 You may question tomorrow's rain, 1131 00:45:06,370 --> 00:45:11,375 but your questions will only bring pain. 1132 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:15,128 Father, 1133 00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:19,633 shadow of light 1134 00:45:19,634 --> 00:45:22,011 in my schemes 1135 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,264 - now we've always had some rebellious youth. 1136 00:45:26,265 --> 00:45:28,266 Nobody's against the fun and games of kids 1137 00:45:28,267 --> 00:45:29,517 who want to have fun. 1138 00:45:29,518 --> 00:45:32,270 But remember, they've gotta cooperate with that 1139 00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:34,105 that is going to permit us to eat 1140 00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:36,483 and sleep along with the decent people. 1141 00:45:36,484 --> 00:45:40,904 You still play with power 1142 00:45:40,905 --> 00:45:44,867 the shortest your hour 1143 00:45:45,534 --> 00:45:48,536 moving on 1144 00:45:48,537 --> 00:45:51,415 since time began 1145 00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:57,545 (crowd clapping) 1146 00:45:57,546 --> 00:45:59,130 (Police radio chatter) 1147 00:45:59,131 --> 00:46:01,883 (Crowd clapping) 1148 00:46:01,884 --> 00:46:05,804 (Crowd whistling and shouting) 1149 00:46:05,805 --> 00:46:08,515 (Crowd clapping) 1150 00:46:08,516 --> 00:46:11,142 (Crowd yelling) 1151 00:46:11,143 --> 00:46:13,896 (Crowd cheering) 1152 00:46:17,066 --> 00:46:19,693 (Whistling) 1153 00:46:19,694 --> 00:46:22,779 (Crowd yelling) 1154 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:26,950 (Whistling and chaotic chattering) 1155 00:46:26,951 --> 00:46:28,827 (Police radio chatter) 1156 00:46:28,828 --> 00:46:30,829 Funny how 1157 00:46:30,830 --> 00:46:32,956 (crowd yelling) 1158 00:46:32,957 --> 00:46:34,582 Some people 1159 00:46:34,583 --> 00:46:35,959 (crowd yelling) 1160 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,919 Just 1161 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,420 (crowd yelling) 1162 00:46:38,421 --> 00:46:39,338 Can't 1163 00:46:39,339 --> 00:46:40,339 (crowd yelling) 1164 00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:41,340 Grow 1165 00:46:41,341 --> 00:46:43,091 (crowd yelling) 1166 00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:44,718 Old 1167 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,723 (chaotic whistling and yelling) 1168 00:46:50,182 --> 00:46:52,851 - Do you believe in democracy? - Let me put it this way. 1169 00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:53,686 - I don't... 1170 00:46:53,687 --> 00:46:55,312 - Do you believe in democracy? 1171 00:46:55,313 --> 00:46:57,981 - I haven't answered that question for myself yet. 1172 00:46:57,982 --> 00:47:00,942 - Well, what do you believe? - In what system do you believe? 1173 00:47:00,943 --> 00:47:02,235 - In the political system? - I don't know. 1174 00:47:02,236 --> 00:47:03,486 I don't believe in politics. 1175 00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:04,738 - You don't believe in politics? 1176 00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:05,573 - No. 1177 00:47:05,574 --> 00:47:09,075 I might someday, but I'm trying to figure it out. 1178 00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:10,744 - I don't believe in a lot of politicians. 1179 00:47:10,745 --> 00:47:13,621 I agree with you there, but there must be some system. 1180 00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:15,874 There must be laws. Is this direct, or not? 1181 00:47:15,875 --> 00:47:17,334 - I even challenge that. 1182 00:47:17,335 --> 00:47:18,877 - You challenge that in as much, 1183 00:47:18,878 --> 00:47:23,757 there should be police to uphold these laws or not? 1184 00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:26,760 - Well, maybe we could find a way to live without police. 1185 00:47:26,761 --> 00:47:28,261 Maybe it's possible. 1186 00:47:28,262 --> 00:47:30,388 - Well, you gotta have a lot of love buddy, 1187 00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:31,389 to believe this. 1188 00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:32,350 - That's what we talk about. 1189 00:47:32,351 --> 00:47:33,892 - You take all the cops off the street 1190 00:47:33,893 --> 00:47:35,143 of this city for one week, 1191 00:47:35,144 --> 00:47:36,269 what are you thinking gonna happen? 1192 00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:38,229 - Haven't you heard about flower power? 1193 00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:41,900 - Mmm, Jesus Christ. I come from a flower town of Canada, 1194 00:47:41,901 --> 00:47:43,151 you know, Brampton. 1195 00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:45,653 And if ever you took that little police force off 1196 00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:47,864 the streets in Brampton for one weekend, 1197 00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:49,532 you know what'd happened to you? 1198 00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:53,495 Eh? She wouldn't be a flower town no more boy. 1199 00:47:53,496 --> 00:47:54,288 - Well, 1200 00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:55,247 - huh? 1201 00:47:55,248 --> 00:47:58,166 - Why not fix the cause of that? I mean, 1202 00:47:58,167 --> 00:48:00,044 what's the cause of all that violence? 1203 00:48:01,379 --> 00:48:02,796 Isn't the cause of all that violence, 1204 00:48:02,797 --> 00:48:03,756 the barracks that you created 1205 00:48:03,757 --> 00:48:06,508 and people jumping up and down when they're told to? 1206 00:48:06,509 --> 00:48:09,636 - You do come up with some real questions, boy, 1207 00:48:09,637 --> 00:48:11,054 silly ones, really. 1208 00:48:11,055 --> 00:48:12,931 You're not even facing fact. 1209 00:48:12,932 --> 00:48:14,141 - Why is it silly? 1210 00:48:14,308 --> 00:48:15,184 What's the fact. 1211 00:48:15,185 --> 00:48:17,560 - The fact is that we're human beings. 1212 00:48:17,561 --> 00:48:18,561 Okay? 1213 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:21,315 And we don't all love each other. 1214 00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:46,923 (Ambient chatter) 1215 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:50,594 Christopher's movie 1216 00:48:53,681 --> 00:48:57,351 matinee 1217 00:49:00,312 --> 00:49:01,563 two, three, four 1218 00:49:01,564 --> 00:49:03,982 we're going on our holiday 1219 00:49:03,983 --> 00:49:05,066 whoop-Dee-doo 1220 00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:07,360 going somewhere far away 1221 00:49:07,361 --> 00:49:08,570 whoop-Dee-doo 1222 00:49:08,571 --> 00:49:11,114 I don't like the cold anyway 1223 00:49:11,115 --> 00:49:12,240 whoop-Dee-doo 1224 00:49:12,241 --> 00:49:14,701 need a little warmth every day 1225 00:49:14,702 --> 00:49:15,869 whoop-Dee-doo 1226 00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:20,875 and I, if it's all right 1227 00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:22,876 the rain is falling 1228 00:49:22,877 --> 00:49:24,752 the month is June 1229 00:49:24,753 --> 00:49:29,758 I'm so jive I can't resist a spoon of your sugar 1230 00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:33,636 to sweeten the mood 1231 00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:36,222 come let's make our getaway 1232 00:49:36,223 --> 00:49:37,265 whoop-Dee-doo 1233 00:49:37,266 --> 00:49:39,726 we can't last another day 1234 00:49:39,727 --> 00:49:40,727 whoop-Dee-doo 1235 00:49:40,728 --> 00:49:43,271 survival is the only way 1236 00:49:43,272 --> 00:49:44,272 whoop-Dee-doo 1237 00:49:44,273 --> 00:49:46,649 let's go for a holiday 1238 00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,359 whoop-Dee-doo 1239 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,028 by the way 1240 00:49:50,029 --> 00:49:53,406 we'll leave today 1241 00:49:53,407 --> 00:49:58,412 (upbeat folk rock) 1242 00:50:06,253 --> 00:50:09,048 Be sure to bring your mandolin 1243 00:50:09,882 --> 00:50:12,550 we've got to keep our handle in 1244 00:50:12,551 --> 00:50:14,677 the pot 1245 00:50:14,678 --> 00:50:18,056 which, after all, is hot 1246 00:50:18,057 --> 00:50:20,767 see the box we're finally in 1247 00:50:20,768 --> 00:50:22,435 whoop-Dee-doo 1248 00:50:22,436 --> 00:50:24,521 laughing Greeks to lift a grin 1249 00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:25,897 whoop-Dee-doo 1250 00:50:25,898 --> 00:50:27,941 if you think this means we can win 1251 00:50:27,942 --> 00:50:29,025 whoop-Dee-doo 1252 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,402 maybe it's where we came in 1253 00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:32,403 whoop-Dee-doo 1254 00:50:32,404 --> 00:50:34,656 goodbye, arrivederci 1255 00:50:34,657 --> 00:50:37,033 goodbye 1256 00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,577 morning, watts, broadcasting from... 1257 00:50:39,578 --> 00:50:41,580 Matinee 1258 00:50:44,833 --> 00:50:48,086 (applause) 1259 00:50:48,087 --> 00:50:51,298 (Groovy music begins) 1260 00:51:24,832 --> 00:51:29,253 (Groovy music continues with crowd chattering) 1261 00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:50,833 (Groovy music fades) 1262 00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:53,711 (Crowd applauding) 1263 00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:56,089 - We had to sit-in on yorkville last night, 1264 00:52:56,090 --> 00:52:59,468 several people got busted, including me. 1265 00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:03,221 Last Thursday, we went down 1266 00:53:03,222 --> 00:53:06,349 and we talked to the board of control in this city of ours. 1267 00:53:06,350 --> 00:53:08,434 And we told them a lot of things about who we are 1268 00:53:08,435 --> 00:53:09,353 and what we wanted to see 1269 00:53:09,354 --> 00:53:10,812 and what kind of a nice place we wanted 1270 00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:13,065 to see this city turn into. 1271 00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:16,484 And one thing we asked was, 1272 00:53:16,485 --> 00:53:20,613 "why don't you try closing down our street? You know?" 1273 00:53:20,614 --> 00:53:24,325 And they said, "no, man, we can't do that." 1274 00:53:24,326 --> 00:53:27,830 We said, "why?" And they didn't really know. 1275 00:53:29,123 --> 00:53:32,375 And that's what the thing last night was all about. 1276 00:53:32,376 --> 00:53:34,335 - I was just wondering what the possibilities 1277 00:53:34,336 --> 00:53:36,462 were of getting a copy of that tape... 1278 00:53:36,463 --> 00:53:37,256 - What tape? 1279 00:53:37,257 --> 00:53:40,216 - Well, would you not have this all taped, 1280 00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,759 when they were taking the film? 1281 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,636 - Oh, yes. 1282 00:53:42,637 --> 00:53:44,387 Shooting it, sure, yes. 1283 00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:47,765 - The, particularly, the speeches by depoe 1284 00:53:47,766 --> 00:53:50,268 and, that gal I'd like to get... 1285 00:53:50,269 --> 00:53:52,103 - Oh, why would you want that? 1286 00:53:52,104 --> 00:53:55,106 - I'd like to hear it over again, that's all. 1287 00:53:55,107 --> 00:53:56,899 - Oh, but we can't do that. 1288 00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:57,900 Do you think, well, 1289 00:53:57,901 --> 00:54:01,112 do you think it would be fair taping somebody without their... 1290 00:54:01,113 --> 00:54:03,865 You know, knowing that it's gonna get to you or... 1291 00:54:03,866 --> 00:54:05,241 - Well, this is possible. 1292 00:54:05,242 --> 00:54:07,994 I just asked. If you don't want to... 1293 00:54:07,995 --> 00:54:09,912 - Well, as I say, I don't think it's very fair. 1294 00:54:09,913 --> 00:54:12,123 Do you, inspector? 1295 00:54:12,124 --> 00:54:14,542 - Well, I hadn't thought of it along those lines. 1296 00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:17,170 It might be. And that they were talking. 1297 00:54:17,171 --> 00:54:19,423 I mean, we have most of the... 1298 00:54:21,383 --> 00:54:24,510 I have no stuff verbatim anyway, but it's just that I heard, 1299 00:54:24,511 --> 00:54:26,554 but it's quite all right. 1300 00:54:26,555 --> 00:54:28,431 - People talk a great deal about 1301 00:54:28,432 --> 00:54:30,183 the whole big brother thing, 1302 00:54:30,184 --> 00:54:32,059 and I always tend to disbelieve it. 1303 00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:35,813 And that's why it surprises me that you would want to take... 1304 00:54:35,814 --> 00:54:36,939 - It was just a thought, that's all. 1305 00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:39,275 - Since they didn't know that we'd 1306 00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:40,526 be giving it to you. 1307 00:54:40,527 --> 00:54:41,320 - This is true. 1308 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,196 - It'd be kind of unfair. 1309 00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:43,030 - Oh, okay. 1310 00:54:43,031 --> 00:54:44,822 I can see your point. 1311 00:54:44,823 --> 00:54:45,699 - Yeah. 1312 00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:47,074 What did you think of the... 1313 00:54:47,075 --> 00:54:48,451 - Oh, it was... 1314 00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:51,830 It was an afternoon's entertainment for them. 1315 00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:55,666 - Did it give you any trouble of any kind. Did it? 1316 00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:57,710 - No, no problems to us. 1317 00:54:57,711 --> 00:54:59,587 Same as the last one they had here. 1318 00:54:59,588 --> 00:55:01,297 They had a much larger crowd 1319 00:55:01,298 --> 00:55:04,343 the last time they were here. No problems with it. 1320 00:55:05,594 --> 00:55:08,221 - Oh, I understood the police weren't very favorable 1321 00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:11,098 towards this kind of a gathering. 1322 00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:13,100 - I wouldn't say we weren't favorable towards it. 1323 00:55:13,101 --> 00:55:14,727 We get a little apprehensive at times 1324 00:55:14,728 --> 00:55:16,479 when we know what has happened 1325 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,106 in some places over these things. 1326 00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:21,984 We just like to keep our finger on the holster of things. 1327 00:55:21,985 --> 00:55:22,985 You know? 1328 00:55:25,864 --> 00:55:26,490 - I see. 1329 00:55:26,491 --> 00:55:27,865 - We don't really get too concerned. 1330 00:55:27,866 --> 00:55:29,992 We only had about three men here this afternoon, 1331 00:55:29,993 --> 00:55:33,204 and if we were that worried about it, we'd have probably had more. 1332 00:55:33,205 --> 00:55:34,747 - Oh, I thought I saw more police than that. 1333 00:55:34,748 --> 00:55:36,207 Or were they from a different department or... 1334 00:55:36,208 --> 00:55:38,501 - No, no. In the park here had about three 1335 00:55:38,502 --> 00:55:40,879 and myself and the patrol sergeant. 1336 00:55:42,214 --> 00:55:44,882 - I see. How did you hear about it? - Through the publicity or... 1337 00:55:44,883 --> 00:55:45,884 - No... 1338 00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:49,136 Well, we did read about it in the newspaper, of course. 1339 00:55:49,137 --> 00:55:49,972 - I see. 1340 00:55:49,972 --> 00:55:50,848 - It was publicized there. 1341 00:55:50,849 --> 00:55:52,723 Of course, any time there's a permit... 1342 00:55:52,724 --> 00:55:53,642 - Oh, yes. 1343 00:55:53,643 --> 00:55:55,853 - These kind of things, of course we... 1344 00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:57,645 - I see. 1345 00:55:59,606 --> 00:56:01,274 Well, I hope you enjoy... 1346 00:56:01,275 --> 00:56:02,358 - Oh, how are you? 1347 00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:03,151 - Very well, sir. 1348 00:56:03,152 --> 00:56:04,277 - Your face looks familiar. 1349 00:56:04,278 --> 00:56:06,529 - It shouldn't unless you just saw it today. 1350 00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:07,530 I'm from Illinois. 1351 00:56:07,531 --> 00:56:08,365 - Oh, are you? 1352 00:56:08,366 --> 00:56:10,366 - So I'm a long way out. - Away from home. 1353 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:13,912 - I was thinking of what's his name. - Reverend... 1354 00:56:15,163 --> 00:56:16,290 He has a radio program, 1355 00:56:16,456 --> 00:56:18,040 and I've seen his picture in the paper. 1356 00:56:18,041 --> 00:56:18,876 - Oh. 1357 00:56:18,877 --> 00:56:20,919 - And I thought you were he... 1358 00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:24,422 - What did you think of the afternoon's proceedings? 1359 00:56:24,423 --> 00:56:26,674 - I was here for about an hour and a half 1360 00:56:26,675 --> 00:56:31,930 and I talked with several of the persons who were involved and I... 1361 00:56:32,931 --> 00:56:35,767 I thought it was very interesting. 1362 00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:38,019 I don't, I don't really, 1363 00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:40,438 I'm not in a position to make a judgment particularly 1364 00:56:40,439 --> 00:56:42,064 because it's my first contact with, 1365 00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:45,192 with the whole movement, this closely, 1366 00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:47,654 with this, this bigger number... 1367 00:56:49,907 --> 00:56:51,282 Then in the states, actually 1368 00:56:51,283 --> 00:56:53,702 it's limited to certain areas, 1369 00:56:54,953 --> 00:56:58,581 and there is none around where I come from, 1370 00:56:58,582 --> 00:57:00,708 which is the St. Louis area. 1371 00:57:00,709 --> 00:57:01,709 - I see. 1372 00:57:03,962 --> 00:57:06,089 - My brother lives in St. Louis. 1373 00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:09,343 I go down there periodically, visit him, 1374 00:57:10,344 --> 00:57:12,721 nothing going on like this out there. 1375 00:57:12,888 --> 00:57:13,847 - No, nothing. 1376 00:57:13,848 --> 00:57:16,724 - Maybe down in gaslight square, we might see the odd one. 1377 00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:17,725 - A few. 1378 00:57:17,768 --> 00:57:19,353 They're scattered, 1379 00:57:20,479 --> 00:57:21,979 there's no community. 1380 00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:22,814 - Yeah, okay. 1381 00:57:22,814 --> 00:57:23,607 - See you again. 1382 00:57:23,607 --> 00:57:24,483 - Nice meeting you. 1383 00:57:24,483 --> 00:57:25,317 - Yeah, nice meeting you. 1384 00:57:25,318 --> 00:57:27,194 - Bye, sir. 1385 00:57:29,488 --> 00:57:31,990 (Folk rock music) 1386 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,747 Away we go 1387 00:57:39,748 --> 00:57:41,958 laughing 1388 00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:45,878 falling down the street. 1389 00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:49,882 Should we be crying? 1390 00:57:49,883 --> 00:57:54,136 Like all the people we meet 1391 00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:58,391 bubble gum's for chewing 1392 00:57:58,392 --> 00:58:02,019 and I'm chewing mine 1393 00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:05,648 I really love to chew gum 1394 00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:09,736 I do it all the time 1395 00:58:10,988 --> 00:58:12,364 who are you? 1396 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,033 Who am I? 1397 00:58:15,242 --> 00:58:17,786 Do you want to laugh or cry? 1398 00:58:18,912 --> 00:58:21,873 It doesn't matter what you do 1399 00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:25,002 what's in a name 1400 00:58:30,132 --> 00:58:33,427 Swimming in the pool 1401 00:58:34,553 --> 00:58:37,555 people want to throw them out 1402 00:58:37,556 --> 00:58:41,308 but I think they're cool 1403 00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:46,189 (folk rock instrumental) 1404 00:58:56,658 --> 00:59:00,661 Away we go laughing 1405 00:59:00,662 --> 00:59:05,207 falling down the street 1406 00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,461 should we be crying? 1407 00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:13,049 Like all the people we meet 1408 00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:15,342 who are you? 1409 00:59:15,343 --> 00:59:17,845 Who am I? 1410 00:59:17,846 --> 00:59:21,182 Do you want to laugh or cry? 1411 00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:24,852 It doesn't matter what you do 1412 00:59:24,853 --> 00:59:28,105 what's in a name? 1413 00:59:28,106 --> 00:59:30,233 Without 1414 00:59:35,113 --> 00:59:37,198 - all right, all right, don't push. 1415 00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:40,327 (Chatter) 1416 01:00:00,013 --> 01:00:01,765 (Desk slamming) 1417 01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:13,526 (Coughing) 1418 01:00:13,527 --> 01:00:17,364 (Chatter) 1419 01:00:18,615 --> 01:00:19,908 - Where's the teach? 1420 01:00:20,158 --> 01:00:21,118 (Laughter) 1421 01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:21,910 - Yeah. 1422 01:00:21,911 --> 01:00:23,536 - They usually do most of the talking. 1423 01:00:23,537 --> 01:00:26,038 - All right, class. Settle down. 1424 01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:27,665 (Laughter) 1425 01:00:27,666 --> 01:00:28,542 - Okay, you can teach. 1426 01:00:28,543 --> 01:00:29,792 - Can I be teacher? 1427 01:00:29,793 --> 01:00:30,918 - Yeah, you be teacher. 1428 01:00:30,919 --> 01:00:32,294 - Put your hat on. 1429 01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:34,673 (Laughter) 1430 01:00:44,808 --> 01:00:46,685 - All right, listen up... 1431 01:00:50,397 --> 01:00:52,941 (Laughter) 1432 01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:55,569 Now... 1433 01:00:55,570 --> 01:00:58,320 Today we're beginning a whole new... whole new year. 1434 01:00:58,321 --> 01:01:00,322 Today we're not going to do anything. 1435 01:01:00,323 --> 01:01:03,033 We're just going to get to know each other. 1436 01:01:03,034 --> 01:01:04,286 Well, tomorrow... 1437 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,079 Young lady... 1438 01:01:11,084 --> 01:01:12,169 (Laughter) 1439 01:01:14,421 --> 01:01:16,714 There are certain rules and regulations, 1440 01:01:16,715 --> 01:01:18,424 which must be observed. 1441 01:01:18,425 --> 01:01:20,593 I mean, I don't make the rules. 1442 01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:21,802 Now this year, and some other years, 1443 01:01:21,803 --> 01:01:24,472 you may have had difficulties with discipline. 1444 01:01:25,473 --> 01:01:26,873 Now, I'm not a hard disciplinarian, 1445 01:01:27,934 --> 01:01:29,226 but when I want to have something done, 1446 01:01:29,227 --> 01:01:31,061 I expect to have it done. 1447 01:01:31,062 --> 01:01:31,980 (Laughter) 1448 01:01:31,980 --> 01:01:32,856 Now you treat me like an adult 1449 01:01:32,857 --> 01:01:35,065 and I'll treat you like adults... 1450 01:01:35,066 --> 01:01:37,985 Which is completely untrue because 1451 01:01:37,986 --> 01:01:41,865 you treat him like god and he treats you like some kids. 1452 01:01:42,991 --> 01:01:46,493 - Oh, I had a teacher who said first day school... 1453 01:01:46,494 --> 01:01:48,245 - Classrooms are a drag. 1454 01:01:48,246 --> 01:01:50,999 (Laughs) 1455 01:01:53,752 --> 01:01:55,878 - Have you ever seen some of the signs they put in the back? 1456 01:01:55,879 --> 01:01:57,713 Like "learning is earning." 1457 01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,715 - Well, let's get down to the facts. 1458 01:01:59,716 --> 01:02:03,093 What we're talking about is isolated little cases. 1459 01:02:03,094 --> 01:02:04,887 Like the things on the back. 1460 01:02:04,888 --> 01:02:07,723 What about discussing the educational system? 1461 01:02:07,724 --> 01:02:09,391 Instead of just the... 1462 01:02:09,392 --> 01:02:10,268 - That's a trouble, you see, 1463 01:02:10,269 --> 01:02:12,270 it's the system. 1464 01:02:12,646 --> 01:02:14,897 - Before we start, I'd like to make a point. 1465 01:02:14,898 --> 01:02:16,607 The teacher should have a better attitude. 1466 01:02:16,608 --> 01:02:18,400 The whole thing should be more relaxed. 1467 01:02:18,401 --> 01:02:20,986 I mean, we don't like it and they don't like it. 1468 01:02:20,987 --> 01:02:22,529 - Yeah. That's right. 1469 01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:25,241 - Like most kids have dropped out of school completely. 1470 01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,242 - You mean they're dropped out 1471 01:02:26,243 --> 01:02:27,409 and they're still sitting in their desks. 1472 01:02:27,410 --> 01:02:28,245 - Oh yeah. 1473 01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:29,037 - I did that last year. 1474 01:02:29,037 --> 01:02:29,871 - So did I. 1475 01:02:29,872 --> 01:02:30,913 - I, you have to do it. 1476 01:02:30,914 --> 01:02:32,873 There's no way that you can be... 1477 01:02:32,874 --> 01:02:34,166 - Not no way. 1478 01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:36,293 - You people are still buggered up with the system though. 1479 01:02:36,294 --> 01:02:39,004 McLuhan was talking about, I think it was socrates. 1480 01:02:39,005 --> 01:02:42,049 And he spent all his time looking for the perfect school, 1481 01:02:42,050 --> 01:02:43,050 and he didn't realize that he 1482 01:02:43,051 --> 01:02:44,510 and his pupils were living right in it. 1483 01:02:44,511 --> 01:02:46,053 They were living in Athens. 1484 01:02:46,054 --> 01:02:50,182 What greater city... to get an education in than Athens? 1485 01:02:50,183 --> 01:02:52,559 And the point is that the world is the best teacher 1486 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,061 and that if kids want to learn, 1487 01:02:54,062 --> 01:02:56,188 they should darn well go out and find themselves a teacher. 1488 01:02:56,189 --> 01:02:57,273 They should go to the teacher. 1489 01:02:57,274 --> 01:02:58,565 They shouldn't have to have come to school. 1490 01:02:58,566 --> 01:03:00,693 They shouldn't have to have any education 1491 01:03:00,694 --> 01:03:02,695 because kids are natural learners. 1492 01:03:02,696 --> 01:03:03,779 - Of course, there's a lot of people 1493 01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:04,698 that just fall right into it, 1494 01:03:04,699 --> 01:03:06,073 and they really couldn't give a damn. 1495 01:03:06,074 --> 01:03:07,199 You know that, you know there's... 1496 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,560 - That's what I was talking about. 1497 01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:13,205 It's harder without regimentation, 1498 01:03:13,206 --> 01:03:14,540 that's for sure, 1499 01:03:14,541 --> 01:03:16,292 and all these progressive systems, 1500 01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,961 the kids say they want a progressive system, but it's much, 1501 01:03:18,962 --> 01:03:21,673 much harder because they have to do the work themselves. 1502 01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:23,425 - You heard of summerhill? 1503 01:03:23,426 --> 01:03:24,967 You know that school where the kids all live. 1504 01:03:24,968 --> 01:03:25,802 - Yeah. 1505 01:03:25,803 --> 01:03:27,344 - And some of them are really frightened by their freedom 1506 01:03:27,345 --> 01:03:28,345 that they're given... 1507 01:03:28,346 --> 01:03:29,222 - Yeah. 1508 01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:30,056 They don't know what to do with it 1509 01:03:30,057 --> 01:03:31,598 now because they've never been prepared. 1510 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,684 The parents always say that we're preparing you 1511 01:03:33,685 --> 01:03:34,727 for the world. 1512 01:03:34,728 --> 01:03:36,186 But the thing is, it's such a... 1513 01:03:36,187 --> 01:03:38,480 It's such a circle and that if they prepare us 1514 01:03:38,481 --> 01:03:39,940 for the world as it is... 1515 01:03:39,941 --> 01:03:41,358 How are we gonna change it? 1516 01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:42,568 - I feel like we are the world. 1517 01:03:42,569 --> 01:03:43,736 - That's right. 1518 01:03:43,737 --> 01:03:45,863 - It's so fake because it's not the real world in here. 1519 01:03:45,864 --> 01:03:46,989 It's some sort of... 1520 01:03:46,990 --> 01:03:47,824 - Yeah... 1521 01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:48,616 - It's, it's a created... 1522 01:03:48,617 --> 01:03:49,867 - It's a gray ivory tower... 1523 01:03:49,868 --> 01:03:52,619 - So we can change it, if only we're taught to... 1524 01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:56,123 Realize our freedom, and they give... 1525 01:03:56,124 --> 01:03:59,251 They give us this crap about the great Democratic society, 1526 01:03:59,252 --> 01:04:01,712 and the great freedom we have, when there is... 1527 01:04:01,713 --> 01:04:03,005 So little freedom 1528 01:04:03,006 --> 01:04:06,216 because of the small dictatorships and business. 1529 01:04:06,217 --> 01:04:07,843 - What's an education? 1530 01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:10,137 - An education for me is not what I'm getting. 1531 01:04:10,138 --> 01:04:11,638 An education is, I mean, 1532 01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:13,098 not what I'm getting in a classroom, 1533 01:04:13,099 --> 01:04:14,391 but I'm getting a tremendous education 1534 01:04:14,392 --> 01:04:16,852 just by going to school and meeting all these people. 1535 01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:18,479 - Why do we have to go to school to talk? 1536 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,855 - You know cause our vice principal, 1537 01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:21,982 he walks around the halls, the first three days of school, 1538 01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,776 telling everybody to get a haircut, 1539 01:04:23,777 --> 01:04:24,777 and this guy's, you know, 1540 01:04:24,778 --> 01:04:27,363 earning $12,000 a year and that's his job. 1541 01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:29,656 - Like the principal was having a talk with me 1542 01:04:29,657 --> 01:04:31,867 and... he said, "get your hair cut, 1543 01:04:31,868 --> 01:04:34,119 'cause you won't be accepted by society with long hair." 1544 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,913 And I said, "well, the way society is now, 1545 01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:37,915 I don't really want to be accepted by it." 1546 01:04:37,916 --> 01:04:39,541 And he wouldn't let me go to class 1547 01:04:39,542 --> 01:04:41,502 until my attitude changed. 1548 01:04:41,503 --> 01:04:43,670 And that to me is the whole school system. 1549 01:04:43,671 --> 01:04:46,006 - Like a lot of people, they begin thinking like that, 1550 01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:48,675 and then they get all worried about the long hair 1551 01:04:48,676 --> 01:04:52,930 and the long hair becomes more important than learning. 1552 01:04:52,931 --> 01:04:53,681 - That's right. 1553 01:04:53,682 --> 01:04:55,766 - You know that, I mean, sure, 1554 01:04:55,767 --> 01:04:57,810 it's a ridiculous thing, 1555 01:04:57,811 --> 01:05:01,188 but it's not nearly as important as learning. 1556 01:05:01,189 --> 01:05:02,815 - Yeah, they're in a transition period 1557 01:05:02,816 --> 01:05:04,316 where there's not enough disciplines 1558 01:05:04,317 --> 01:05:05,943 that you're forced, you know... 1559 01:05:05,944 --> 01:05:08,529 You have to respect them or get beat up. 1560 01:05:08,530 --> 01:05:10,823 - We should do something while we're in school 1561 01:05:10,824 --> 01:05:13,200 'cause, I mean, it'd be nice to have it changed later, 1562 01:05:13,201 --> 01:05:15,202 but I want to change now so I don't have to throw 1563 01:05:15,203 --> 01:05:17,454 my years away 'cause it's kind of 1564 01:05:17,455 --> 01:05:19,415 almost a survival thing. 1565 01:05:19,416 --> 01:05:21,083 (Chatter) 1566 01:05:21,084 --> 01:05:22,043 Yeah, I will. 1567 01:05:22,044 --> 01:05:23,585 I'm trying. I'm gonna run for president. 1568 01:05:23,586 --> 01:05:25,672 I'm really gonna try to start something, honestly. 1569 01:05:27,215 --> 01:05:29,068 I mean, I'm gonna have things like general meetings 1570 01:05:29,092 --> 01:05:30,092 of the whole and not after school. 1571 01:05:30,093 --> 01:05:31,218 I mean during the school, 1572 01:05:31,219 --> 01:05:33,095 so we miss half an hour of Latin class. 1573 01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:35,931 So what? It's not gonna influence our lives. 1574 01:05:35,932 --> 01:05:37,724 A child at three or four is the... 1575 01:05:37,725 --> 01:05:41,563 Greatest thing because they're so beautiful. 1576 01:05:41,729 --> 01:05:44,189 They want to know everything. They really do. 1577 01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:46,066 And gradually, as they go through school, 1578 01:05:46,067 --> 01:05:48,110 the pity is this gets dampened. 1579 01:05:48,111 --> 01:05:51,113 If there's only some way to capture it and bottle it 1580 01:05:51,114 --> 01:05:53,615 and give it to older people, you know? 1581 01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:55,868 And they can, if you've ever seen a man 1582 01:05:55,869 --> 01:05:57,619 with his little girl, you know, 1583 01:05:57,620 --> 01:06:00,330 he suddenly becomes a little boy again. 1584 01:06:00,331 --> 01:06:02,124 I think it may be in kindergarten the way 1585 01:06:02,125 --> 01:06:03,750 the regimentation starts. 1586 01:06:03,751 --> 01:06:05,377 And the beautiful thing about kindergarten 1587 01:06:05,378 --> 01:06:06,879 is the pictures they draw. 1588 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,714 - Yeah. 1589 01:06:07,715 --> 01:06:08,964 - They're so great. They're so... 1590 01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,341 They're abstract and they're beautifully abstract. 1591 01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,844 They're subconscious is still close to their conscious. 1592 01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:15,512 - And all they can teach us is how to learn. 1593 01:06:15,513 --> 01:06:17,139 All they can do is give us the study skills. 1594 01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:18,891 They can't teach us anything about... 1595 01:06:18,892 --> 01:06:20,267 - Nobody can teach you how to learn. 1596 01:06:20,268 --> 01:06:21,518 - But yes, they can teach us how to read... 1597 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:22,603 - Nobody can teach you how to learn, 1598 01:06:22,604 --> 01:06:23,896 - how to write essays... 1599 01:06:23,897 --> 01:06:26,148 Because you've got to learn from them how to learn. 1600 01:06:26,149 --> 01:06:28,150 - But they can. What do you mean? 1601 01:06:28,151 --> 01:06:29,027 - That's true. 1602 01:06:29,028 --> 01:06:30,527 - Everybody knows how to learn. 1603 01:06:30,528 --> 01:06:31,404 - No... 1604 01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:32,363 - If they only listen to themselves 1605 01:06:32,364 --> 01:06:33,655 and then they can magnify that power, 1606 01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:35,240 but nobody can teach you how to learn. 1607 01:06:35,241 --> 01:06:36,658 - There's certain basic skills, 1608 01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,160 certain knowledge they have to... 1609 01:06:38,161 --> 01:06:39,369 - You can't learn how to learn. 1610 01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:40,662 - They can. They can give you... 1611 01:06:40,663 --> 01:06:42,164 - Because you have to be taught that. 1612 01:06:42,165 --> 01:06:43,790 - What's the basic problem with the whole system... 1613 01:06:43,791 --> 01:06:45,000 Or is there one? 1614 01:06:45,001 --> 01:06:46,418 - The basic system... 1615 01:06:46,419 --> 01:06:47,878 - There's no basic problem. 1616 01:06:47,879 --> 01:06:49,922 The basic problem is... 1617 01:06:49,923 --> 01:06:51,548 So entwined with people... 1618 01:06:51,549 --> 01:06:52,799 - In our school, you know, 1619 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,260 you have to be out of the sight of the school to smoke, 1620 01:06:55,261 --> 01:06:57,804 which means if you can see the school, then, you know... 1621 01:06:57,805 --> 01:06:59,307 - They can see you. 1622 01:07:00,308 --> 01:07:01,642 (Laughter) 1623 01:07:01,643 --> 01:07:04,038 - And you have to keep walking until you can't see it anymore. 1624 01:07:04,062 --> 01:07:05,938 - The big thing that's wrong with school, and 1625 01:07:05,939 --> 01:07:08,148 the big thing that's wrong with this classroom right now 1626 01:07:08,149 --> 01:07:09,399 is the fact it's boring. 1627 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,694 - That's right. 1628 01:07:13,446 --> 01:07:16,824 - If I'm left by myself, I'll either do something... 1629 01:07:18,201 --> 01:07:19,952 - If we can even get an answer. 1630 01:07:19,953 --> 01:07:20,787 - What's the hell? 1631 01:07:20,787 --> 01:07:21,787 - Shut up. 1632 01:07:23,331 --> 01:07:24,957 - One good thing about the whole bloody system... 1633 01:07:24,958 --> 01:07:25,792 - I've given the answer already. 1634 01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:26,584 - Yeah. 1635 01:07:26,585 --> 01:07:28,168 You talk about walking in the wrong door, 1636 01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:29,962 through the cafeteria. That is no problem. 1637 01:07:29,963 --> 01:07:32,089 (Chatter) 1638 01:07:32,090 --> 01:07:33,966 - It's boring. It's boring. 1639 01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:36,593 I wanna sit and scream in class because it's boring, 1640 01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:38,595 and it's probably gonna be boring next year, 1641 01:07:38,596 --> 01:07:40,097 and I hope it isn't, but it probably will. 1642 01:07:40,098 --> 01:07:40,932 - Right? 1643 01:07:40,933 --> 01:07:42,057 - You people are all crazy 1644 01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:43,100 because you're looking for the best 1645 01:07:43,101 --> 01:07:44,101 school and the best school in the world. 1646 01:07:44,102 --> 01:07:45,727 And you're looking for the best exams 1647 01:07:45,728 --> 01:07:47,230 and the best exam is life. 1648 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,731 - I dunno. It'll be interesting to see though. 1649 01:07:49,732 --> 01:07:50,608 - I'd like to have... 1650 01:07:50,609 --> 01:07:52,442 (Arguing) 1651 01:07:52,443 --> 01:07:54,194 - What is the problem with the system? 1652 01:07:54,195 --> 01:07:56,071 You've been here for about 45 minutes, 1653 01:07:56,072 --> 01:07:59,116 talking about walking up the wrong flight of stairs. 1654 01:07:59,117 --> 01:08:00,701 - I think he's got a point. 1655 01:08:00,702 --> 01:08:02,703 (Chuckling and indistinct banter) 1656 01:08:02,704 --> 01:08:03,621 - You're the one who's being... 1657 01:08:03,622 --> 01:08:04,871 - Then I ask you a question and you say, 1658 01:08:04,872 --> 01:08:06,206 "yes, well, there's a problem." 1659 01:08:06,207 --> 01:08:07,499 And then you talk about walking in the wrong door, 1660 01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:09,209 through the cafeteria. 1661 01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:10,335 - We're all acting like hurt children. 1662 01:08:10,336 --> 01:08:11,129 - There is no problem. 1663 01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:12,629 - There's no problem. - What's the problem? 1664 01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:13,630 - There's a teacher standing there... 1665 01:08:13,631 --> 01:08:15,007 - You people are creating a problem. 1666 01:08:15,008 --> 01:08:17,593 - Malcolm, if you don't... if you're so annoyed of this, 1667 01:08:17,594 --> 01:08:19,219 why do you go back to school? 1668 01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:20,470 - If I dropped out of school 1669 01:08:20,471 --> 01:08:23,098 and then went to work or... became a hippie, 1670 01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:24,474 or something like that, I'd be... 1671 01:08:24,475 --> 01:08:26,351 I wouldn't be gaining anything. 1672 01:08:26,352 --> 01:08:28,061 I still have just as much freedom 1673 01:08:28,062 --> 01:08:29,730 as I have going to school because we're all deluded 1674 01:08:29,731 --> 01:08:31,732 that we have a certain amount of freedom, 1675 01:08:31,733 --> 01:08:33,860 which is denied, which is utter nonsense. 1676 01:08:34,027 --> 01:08:35,570 Nobody's free. 1677 01:08:35,737 --> 01:08:38,113 So all I'm gaining and all I'm trading 1678 01:08:38,114 --> 01:08:40,241 is one little prison for another. 1679 01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:43,745 - Learning... 1680 01:08:43,746 --> 01:08:46,830 - You've seen sounds like that, haven't you? 1681 01:08:46,831 --> 01:08:48,206 - Is earning! 1682 01:08:48,207 --> 01:08:50,751 (Clapping) 1683 01:08:50,752 --> 01:08:51,877 - Here's money. 1684 01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:54,129 - Time is money, learning is earning, 1685 01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:55,756 and school is boring. 1686 01:08:55,757 --> 01:08:58,342 (Chuckling) 1687 01:08:58,343 --> 01:09:01,011 That's it. That's all they have to know. 1688 01:09:01,012 --> 01:09:03,513 - Omnia per scientiam, that's what I always say. 1689 01:09:03,514 --> 01:09:04,514 - Yes, put that down. 1690 01:09:04,515 --> 01:09:05,849 - He told me to tell you, 1691 01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:07,392 you're sitting on the right chair the wrong way. 1692 01:09:07,393 --> 01:09:09,228 So I just hammed it up from there on. 1693 01:09:09,604 --> 01:09:11,271 - What's your school motto? 1694 01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:12,272 - Omnia per scientiam. 1695 01:09:13,608 --> 01:09:15,776 Don mills, Don mills collegiate 1696 01:09:15,777 --> 01:09:18,278 is the school we honor and Cherish 1697 01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:19,404 hey, hey, hey 1698 01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:24,284 Don mills, sing our allegiance for the whole... 1699 01:09:24,285 --> 01:09:27,413 (Singing) 1700 01:09:33,753 --> 01:09:38,006 The lap of learning that makes our future look bright, 1701 01:09:38,007 --> 01:09:39,049 right? 1702 01:09:39,927 --> 01:09:42,052 Don mills held by the banner 1703 01:09:42,053 --> 01:09:46,306 of the white, the black and the gold 1704 01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:52,021 Don mills... where our hopes and dreams may unfold 1705 01:09:52,689 --> 01:09:56,191 oh, when we shout it, and brag about it 1706 01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:59,444 you know we'll never deny. 1707 01:09:59,445 --> 01:10:03,281 We come from d-o-n m-i-I-I-s 1708 01:10:05,201 --> 01:10:06,703 Don mills 1709 01:10:15,461 --> 01:10:17,421 - That's an actual school song. 1710 01:10:17,422 --> 01:10:18,714 (Laughter) 1711 01:10:18,715 --> 01:10:20,173 - The Latin teacher wrote it. 1712 01:10:20,174 --> 01:10:21,842 - Oh, that's terrible. 1713 01:10:21,843 --> 01:10:24,052 - Far as it's written about 1890. 1714 01:10:24,053 --> 01:10:26,596 When all that sort of imperialistic crap was trying its head... 1715 01:10:26,597 --> 01:10:28,098 - Right country, right or wrong? 1716 01:10:28,099 --> 01:10:30,350 - Right or wrong. Right. 1717 01:10:30,351 --> 01:10:31,351 - Okay, kids. 1718 01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:32,436 - Okay, what now? 1719 01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:33,478 - In the ties, we know... 1720 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,981 - We gotta clean the classroom and... 1721 01:10:35,982 --> 01:10:36,858 - What? 1722 01:10:36,858 --> 01:10:37,734 - Yeah. We have to clean it up. 1723 01:10:37,734 --> 01:10:38,609 - Boo. 1724 01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:39,569 - And the blackboard? 1725 01:10:39,569 --> 01:10:40,361 - Huh? 1726 01:10:40,361 --> 01:10:41,237 - You're humorous. 1727 01:10:41,238 --> 01:10:42,362 - The blackboard. 1728 01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:44,114 (Chatter) 1729 01:10:44,115 --> 01:10:47,325 - Leave the blackboard, please. 1730 01:10:47,326 --> 01:10:50,747 (Folk rock music) 1731 01:10:57,378 --> 01:10:58,879 Worry, worry 1732 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,006 what a drag 1733 01:11:01,007 --> 01:11:03,133 makes me do it 1734 01:11:03,134 --> 01:11:06,136 it makes me shoulder sag 1735 01:11:06,137 --> 01:11:08,013 worry, worry 1736 01:11:08,014 --> 01:11:10,140 I'm all through 1737 01:11:10,141 --> 01:11:14,270 listening to the likes of you 1738 01:11:15,521 --> 01:11:18,649 yeah, I've been working every day 1739 01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:23,654 on my... twitching way 1740 01:11:24,739 --> 01:11:27,992 worry, worry, I'm all through 1741 01:11:28,910 --> 01:11:32,789 listening to the likes of you 1742 01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:37,293 now I'm working on other ways 1743 01:11:38,544 --> 01:11:42,256 and worry doesn't mar my days 1744 01:11:43,049 --> 01:11:46,677 just concentrate on being you 1745 01:11:47,678 --> 01:11:51,682 it'll drive you crazy, but you won't be blue 1746 01:11:51,849 --> 01:11:55,894 I met a strange man downtown 1747 01:11:55,895 --> 01:12:00,691 and he said things that really brought me around 1748 01:12:01,567 --> 01:12:04,821 he called us silly, mad machines 1749 01:12:05,530 --> 01:12:07,322 to worry and fret 1750 01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:10,201 and live in dreams 1751 01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:14,413 now I'm working on other ways 1752 01:12:15,331 --> 01:12:19,210 worry doesn't mar my days 1753 01:12:19,794 --> 01:12:23,214 just concentrate on being you 1754 01:12:24,215 --> 01:12:28,219 it'll drive you crazy, but you won't be blue 1755 01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:32,431 worry, worry, what a drag 1756 01:12:33,349 --> 01:12:37,436 makes me twitch, it makes me shoulders sag 1757 01:12:38,604 --> 01:12:39,939 worry, worry 1758 01:12:40,940 --> 01:12:42,232 it's all I do 1759 01:12:42,233 --> 01:12:46,945 about what's happening to me and you 1760 01:12:46,946 --> 01:12:49,824 ooh, ooh, ooh 1761 01:12:50,116 --> 01:12:52,743 ooh, ooh, ooh 1762 01:12:58,457 --> 01:13:01,710 - Because especially that time, which you all know of, 1763 01:13:01,711 --> 01:13:04,963 the time when we were at that old deserted building, 1764 01:13:04,964 --> 01:13:06,381 when he was rolling, 1765 01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:08,884 and you broke in on something very personal 1766 01:13:08,885 --> 01:13:10,511 and that upset me. 1767 01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:11,846 - I can't hear you. 1768 01:13:11,847 --> 01:13:15,473 - You broke in on something very personal and that upset me 1769 01:13:15,474 --> 01:13:17,142 because I was trying to get away 1770 01:13:17,143 --> 01:13:19,394 from all the terrible things you were doing 1771 01:13:19,395 --> 01:13:21,479 'cause I thought they were terrible, 1772 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:25,108 all those planned sequences of us, of us... 1773 01:13:25,109 --> 01:13:26,526 We ran out of the car. 1774 01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:29,154 We arrived about 14 times, you know, 1775 01:13:29,155 --> 01:13:31,781 and you don't really do that when you're going to play 1776 01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:34,492 in a deserted building, you just come. 1777 01:13:34,493 --> 01:13:36,161 And so I... ran into the corner 1778 01:13:36,162 --> 01:13:39,289 and Martin came with his little camera 1779 01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:41,917 and I turned around and there he was. 1780 01:13:41,918 --> 01:13:44,044 - You were angry at Martin? 1781 01:13:44,045 --> 01:13:47,422 - Not so much angry at Martin 1782 01:13:47,423 --> 01:13:48,924 as angry at... 1783 01:13:48,925 --> 01:13:51,801 Not you but, well, you too, 1784 01:13:51,802 --> 01:13:52,762 but the idea... 1785 01:13:52,763 --> 01:13:56,933 Of the camera taking something so personal... 1786 01:13:59,185 --> 01:14:01,687 Which I meant to ask you yesterday. 1787 01:14:02,688 --> 01:14:03,688 Did you turn the camera? 1788 01:14:03,689 --> 01:14:07,025 Like, were you filming when I was with Larry? 1789 01:14:07,026 --> 01:14:08,151 - Ask Martin. 1790 01:14:08,152 --> 01:14:09,527 - Martin, were you? 1791 01:14:09,528 --> 01:14:10,820 - Yes, dear, what? 1792 01:14:10,821 --> 01:14:12,072 - Were you filming when I... 1793 01:14:12,073 --> 01:14:16,826 When Larry and I were over on the... standing over on the... 1794 01:14:16,827 --> 01:14:18,453 - Yes, I was. 1795 01:14:18,454 --> 01:14:21,539 - Like that, I'd object... to that. 1796 01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:23,541 Although I wouldn't say you couldn't use it, 1797 01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:25,710 if you wanted to, but that was something 1798 01:14:25,711 --> 01:14:27,922 terribly personal. 1799 01:14:28,464 --> 01:14:29,590 - Tell Martin. 1800 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:34,345 - Martin, that was something terribly personal. 1801 01:14:36,555 --> 01:14:37,348 - But, yes... 1802 01:14:37,349 --> 01:14:39,350 - When you were filming that... 1803 01:15:06,752 --> 01:15:09,379 - It's only the personal things that are worth filming. 1804 01:15:09,380 --> 01:15:10,256 Really. 1805 01:15:10,256 --> 01:15:11,132 - Yeah, well... 1806 01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:14,093 - They have, you know, they convey... 1807 01:15:15,386 --> 01:15:19,097 A meaning to other human beings 1808 01:15:19,098 --> 01:15:20,891 that a non-personal thing doesn't. 1809 01:15:22,768 --> 01:15:24,645 - Yeah. I see that. 1810 01:15:25,771 --> 01:15:29,358 I suppose it all depends on how you use it, 1811 01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:34,363 but I think the film's gonna turn out more... 1812 01:15:34,655 --> 01:15:35,489 - Can't hear you. 1813 01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:37,616 - I think the film's going to be beautiful. 1814 01:15:37,783 --> 01:15:38,784 I really do. 1815 01:15:39,368 --> 01:15:41,370 - Why did you change your mind? 1816 01:15:42,496 --> 01:15:46,541 - I don't know what it was because when you get to know 1817 01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:49,169 the people, the kids... 1818 01:15:49,170 --> 01:15:52,172 How we all got together, and we're all so different, 1819 01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,299 and yet we all tolerate each other, 1820 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:55,759 and we all listen to each other, 1821 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,011 and I think there's something important in that. 1822 01:15:58,012 --> 01:16:01,765 And I think the film should show that because it's true. 1823 01:16:01,766 --> 01:16:03,391 I was talking to art about it. 1824 01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:06,061 How the two things we have in common 1825 01:16:06,062 --> 01:16:08,313 are that we tolerate each other 1826 01:16:08,314 --> 01:16:12,026 and that we're all kind of searching for something. 1827 01:16:12,902 --> 01:16:13,902 I think that's what... 1828 01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:15,570 - Mark, could you tighten in, 1829 01:16:15,571 --> 01:16:17,822 so that jock can get closer, please? 1830 01:16:17,823 --> 01:16:19,032 - Yes. 1831 01:16:19,033 --> 01:16:21,201 - Okay. Move in closer. 1832 01:16:21,202 --> 01:16:24,788 I wanna make sure that we hear everything. 1833 01:16:24,789 --> 01:16:27,207 - And I can't wait to see it 1834 01:16:27,208 --> 01:16:31,711 because it's like a dream, this whole thing... 1835 01:16:31,712 --> 01:16:34,714 What we're trying to show and it's so beautiful, 1836 01:16:34,715 --> 01:16:38,343 and I hope that everybody sees that. 1837 01:16:38,344 --> 01:16:41,471 It makes me so happy. I've never been... 1838 01:16:41,472 --> 01:16:44,100 Felt so happy as with you, all of you people. 1839 01:16:44,725 --> 01:16:45,725 It's great. 1840 01:16:50,606 --> 01:16:53,108 Now I think you're going to make me cry again. 1841 01:16:53,109 --> 01:16:53,984 - Oh no. 1842 01:16:53,985 --> 01:16:55,360 Oh no. 1843 01:16:55,361 --> 01:16:57,488 No, you don't have to do that. 1844 01:16:59,990 --> 01:17:03,452 Hey, why are you crying if you're happy? 1845 01:17:04,495 --> 01:17:08,123 Doreen, why are you crying if you're happy? 1846 01:17:08,124 --> 01:17:11,377 - I always cry when I'm happy, I guess. 1847 01:17:19,385 --> 01:17:21,636 - I'm very... crying today. 1848 01:17:21,637 --> 01:17:23,012 I cried today too. 1849 01:17:23,013 --> 01:17:24,348 - Let's go back. 1850 01:17:41,282 --> 01:17:42,158 - There have been hippie marches, 1851 01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,784 and hippie sit-ins since early Sunday morning. 1852 01:17:44,785 --> 01:17:46,911 More than 60 people have been arrested 1853 01:17:46,912 --> 01:17:49,789 and the hippie protest continues. 1854 01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:52,917 Police are now investigating the possibility of a link 1855 01:17:52,918 --> 01:17:55,170 between the hippie activity and the presence 1856 01:17:55,171 --> 01:17:58,673 of a national film board company in this area. 1857 01:17:58,674 --> 01:18:01,009 Earlier this week, a course of instruction 1858 01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:03,261 on how to resist arrest and go limp 1859 01:18:03,262 --> 01:18:05,930 to be dragged away by police was conducted 1860 01:18:05,931 --> 01:18:08,183 by the hippies in the city park. 1861 01:18:08,184 --> 01:18:10,435 One of the instructors, Alison Gordon, 1862 01:18:10,436 --> 01:18:14,398 later appeared as a member of a national film board crew 1863 01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,400 at city hall square 1864 01:18:16,817 --> 01:18:18,943 during what was termed a sleep-in. 1865 01:18:18,944 --> 01:18:21,154 The national film board has denied any connection 1866 01:18:21,155 --> 01:18:23,948 with Ms. Gordon, except that she had been retained 1867 01:18:23,949 --> 01:18:28,703 to act as a liaison between the hippies and the film crew. 1868 01:18:28,704 --> 01:18:30,830 On Sunday, the film board had been issued 1869 01:18:30,831 --> 01:18:33,291 a city parks permit to stage what they termed 1870 01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:37,420 a film-in for a sequence on a Toronto area production. 1871 01:18:37,421 --> 01:18:40,340 By an unfortunate coincidence, an nfb spokesman 1872 01:18:40,341 --> 01:18:43,468 said it became a part of the hippie outbreak, 1873 01:18:43,469 --> 01:18:45,179 bill kopps, cbc news. 1874 01:18:49,225 --> 01:18:50,601 - You recording? 1875 01:19:02,571 --> 01:19:04,822 - In a way, we were sort of responsible. 1876 01:19:04,823 --> 01:19:05,741 - No, we were not. 1877 01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:06,575 - You know, I mean, 1878 01:19:06,576 --> 01:19:08,827 people change when they get a camera in front of them. 1879 01:19:08,994 --> 01:19:09,994 - This is funny. 1880 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,956 They called the band on Sunday 1881 01:19:12,957 --> 01:19:14,207 a bunch of hippies. 1882 01:19:14,208 --> 01:19:15,375 - Yeah, I know. 1883 01:19:15,376 --> 01:19:17,460 - They even paid for the hippie band. 1884 01:19:17,461 --> 01:19:19,879 (Laughter) 1885 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,090 - It is funny. 1886 01:19:22,841 --> 01:19:25,093 - I didn't know I was a hippie. 1887 01:19:25,094 --> 01:19:27,637 - What if your mother sees that? What'll she do? 1888 01:19:27,638 --> 01:19:29,138 - Oh, wow. 1889 01:19:29,139 --> 01:19:31,267 - Playing with a bunch of hippies, are you? 1890 01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:35,896 (Paper crinkling) 1891 01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:40,984 - This was last night. 1892 01:19:40,985 --> 01:19:42,151 Look at that. 1893 01:19:42,152 --> 01:19:43,278 - Look at this. 1894 01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:44,529 We made the headlines, boys. 1895 01:19:44,530 --> 01:19:46,030 Show this to everybody. 1896 01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:47,156 At the top. 1897 01:19:47,157 --> 01:19:49,493 - That was the early edition. 1898 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,160 Oh, that's too much. 1899 01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:51,912 - Oh, that's killer. 1900 01:19:51,913 --> 01:19:53,162 - Yeah. Read it out loud. 1901 01:19:55,624 --> 01:19:56,916 The national film board admitted yesterday 1902 01:19:56,917 --> 01:19:58,376 that it maneuvered some of the events, 1903 01:19:58,377 --> 01:20:00,044 which have occurred among yorkville's hippies 1904 01:20:00,045 --> 01:20:01,297 in recent days. 1905 01:20:02,673 --> 01:20:04,632 A spokesman said the board obtained a permit 1906 01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:07,176 from the Metro's park department on Friday 1907 01:20:07,177 --> 01:20:08,511 to hold the noisy love-in, 1908 01:20:08,512 --> 01:20:09,887 also known as a film-in, 1909 01:20:09,888 --> 01:20:12,682 which greeted David depoe and five other hippies 1910 01:20:12,683 --> 01:20:15,685 when they were released from Don jail last Sunday. 1911 01:20:15,686 --> 01:20:17,937 He also admitted that it paid for the hippie band 1912 01:20:17,938 --> 01:20:21,190 and rental of sound equipment. Hippie band. 1913 01:20:21,191 --> 01:20:22,817 (Laughter) 1914 01:20:22,818 --> 01:20:24,569 The spokesman also said that the crews of the board 1915 01:20:24,570 --> 01:20:26,821 had moved hippies around to several locations 1916 01:20:26,822 --> 01:20:31,659 in Metro. Report tres youth today. That means we're hippies. 1917 01:20:31,660 --> 01:20:33,911 The board gave a mixed answer to a charge 1918 01:20:33,912 --> 01:20:36,956 that Alison Gordon, 24, was an employee of the board. 1919 01:20:36,957 --> 01:20:39,584 Ms. Gordon instructed hippies, Tuesday afternoon 1920 01:20:39,585 --> 01:20:42,211 in queen's park, in passive resistance to police. 1921 01:20:42,212 --> 01:20:44,589 That afternoon another instructor of the hippies 1922 01:20:44,590 --> 01:20:46,966 described police as mad dogs, violent 1923 01:20:46,967 --> 01:20:49,969 and loving to stamp on people's hands. 1924 01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:52,972 Leo waszczuk, location, business manager of the board 1925 01:20:52,973 --> 01:20:55,433 said that Ms. Gordon was not an employee, 1926 01:20:55,434 --> 01:20:57,101 but a representative of the board 1927 01:20:57,102 --> 01:20:59,812 in its Montreal office, said in a telephone conversation 1928 01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:03,107 that she was... and that she was living in Toronto. 1929 01:21:03,108 --> 01:21:04,108 Matt rausen. 1930 01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:06,487 - Is that...? 1931 01:21:08,113 --> 01:21:09,614 - Yeah. Matt rausen. 1932 01:21:09,615 --> 01:21:11,616 That's mort ransen, director of the film 1933 01:21:11,617 --> 01:21:13,117 said that technically she has not been 1934 01:21:13,118 --> 01:21:14,995 working for the board. 1935 01:21:17,247 --> 01:21:18,998 He said that the board had arranged a film-in 1936 01:21:18,999 --> 01:21:21,000 for Sunday afternoon as part of a film, 1937 01:21:21,001 --> 01:21:23,586 yet untitled, which would show youth today. 1938 01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:25,380 The film was to be shown on television 1939 01:21:25,381 --> 01:21:27,256 and later distributed to schools. 1940 01:21:27,257 --> 01:21:30,093 - I was shocked to learn about the whole incident, 1941 01:21:30,094 --> 01:21:32,136 and I think it's disgraceful that an organization 1942 01:21:32,137 --> 01:21:34,514 like the film board can be involved with such... 1943 01:21:34,515 --> 01:21:36,266 - Quite so, quite so, sir. 1944 01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,643 What do you think of the national film board? 1945 01:21:38,644 --> 01:21:40,520 - Oh, my opinion has been lowered greatly 1946 01:21:40,521 --> 01:21:42,647 by the incidents of the past days. 1947 01:21:42,648 --> 01:21:43,482 - I agree. 1948 01:21:43,483 --> 01:21:45,733 - I'd be in shock that they'd be associated with such... 1949 01:21:45,734 --> 01:21:46,527 - Exactly. 1950 01:21:46,528 --> 01:21:47,528 - Low members of our society. 1951 01:21:47,528 --> 01:21:48,404 - Exactly. 1952 01:21:48,405 --> 01:21:50,154 I think the national film board is completely 1953 01:21:50,155 --> 01:21:52,407 to blame for this terrible instance. 1954 01:21:52,408 --> 01:21:55,411 Sir, do you have anything to say upon this? 1955 01:21:58,497 --> 01:22:01,290 - Not really, except that national film board 1956 01:22:01,291 --> 01:22:04,293 has gotten caught in the unusual predicament 1957 01:22:04,294 --> 01:22:06,796 of being blamed for the news that it's reporting. 1958 01:22:06,797 --> 01:22:08,048 - As usual, of course. 1959 01:22:08,215 --> 01:22:09,507 - This rarely happens with media, 1960 01:22:09,508 --> 01:22:11,801 and it's odd that it should happen with this film 1961 01:22:11,802 --> 01:22:13,928 and significant that it should happen with this film, 1962 01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:16,139 which is a film of social protest. 1963 01:22:16,140 --> 01:22:17,432 That's all I have to say. 1964 01:22:17,433 --> 01:22:18,308 - That is all? 1965 01:22:18,308 --> 01:22:19,184 - That's all. 1966 01:22:19,184 --> 01:22:20,018 - Thank you, sir. 1967 01:22:20,019 --> 01:22:21,561 Would you say... that the nfb 1968 01:22:21,562 --> 01:22:23,062 is to blame for this? 1969 01:22:23,063 --> 01:22:24,398 - Of course not. 1970 01:22:26,066 --> 01:22:27,442 (Laughter) 1971 01:22:27,443 --> 01:22:29,069 - No. 1972 01:22:29,945 --> 01:22:31,195 - Cut that comment. 1973 01:22:31,196 --> 01:22:32,823 (Laughter) 1974 01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:37,827 We're moving through the crowd, 1975 01:22:37,828 --> 01:22:40,664 and as we come up on our next... 1976 01:22:41,165 --> 01:22:44,417 Sir, do you have any comment upon the yorkville riots? 1977 01:22:44,418 --> 01:22:46,794 - I think it's been misreported. 1978 01:22:46,795 --> 01:22:48,463 - He thinks it's been... 1979 01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:51,215 - What do you think of the national film board? 1980 01:22:51,216 --> 01:22:54,802 - Well, of course... - It's a great institution. 1981 01:22:54,803 --> 01:22:55,596 - Really? 1982 01:22:55,597 --> 01:22:56,721 - Oh, definitely. 1983 01:22:56,722 --> 01:22:58,848 - Would your opinion be biased at all? 1984 01:22:58,849 --> 01:22:59,974 - Be what? 1985 01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:01,601 - Biased. Do you know what that means? 1986 01:23:01,602 --> 01:23:02,436 - No, I don't. 1987 01:23:02,437 --> 01:23:03,561 - Prejudice. Prejudice. 1988 01:23:03,562 --> 01:23:05,229 - Do you have a prejudiced opinion 1989 01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:06,230 upon the national film board? 1990 01:23:06,231 --> 01:23:07,191 - Oh, never. 1991 01:23:07,191 --> 01:23:08,191 - Never. 1992 01:23:08,233 --> 01:23:08,859 - Never. 1993 01:23:08,860 --> 01:23:11,111 (Laughter) 1994 01:23:12,362 --> 01:23:13,821 - Obscene. 1995 01:23:13,822 --> 01:23:15,114 - Well, you've all heard about it. 1996 01:23:15,115 --> 01:23:16,115 Obviously. 1997 01:23:17,451 --> 01:23:21,747 We're filming the final scene in the film right now. 1998 01:23:23,499 --> 01:23:24,499 This is... 1999 01:23:24,875 --> 01:23:26,375 - You're kidding? - Oh, disillusionment. 2000 01:23:26,376 --> 01:23:28,127 - The departure of the film crew. 2001 01:23:28,128 --> 01:23:29,128 - You're kidding. 2002 01:23:29,129 --> 01:23:31,506 - We've all been ordered back to Montreal. 2003 01:23:31,507 --> 01:23:36,512 The film board hierarchy has reacted in a panicky way, 2004 01:23:37,763 --> 01:23:39,973 and ordered us to go back, 2005 01:23:41,767 --> 01:23:43,519 and so we're leaving. 2006 01:23:46,146 --> 01:23:49,233 None of us on the crew agree with the decision. 2007 01:23:50,150 --> 01:23:52,903 We've all told them that we disagree with it. 2008 01:23:54,363 --> 01:23:56,364 - Maybe this is a good thing, really. 2009 01:23:56,365 --> 01:23:57,157 - Why? 2010 01:23:57,158 --> 01:23:59,617 - I mean, it shows what we're up against, doesn't it? 2011 01:23:59,618 --> 01:24:00,410 - Yeah. 2012 01:24:00,411 --> 01:24:01,619 - We're up against the whole bit. 2013 01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:04,914 We're up against the papers prefabricating stories 2014 01:24:04,915 --> 01:24:05,749 and lying outright. 2015 01:24:05,749 --> 01:24:06,667 - Yeah, but... 2016 01:24:06,668 --> 01:24:10,628 - We're up against administrations believing outright lies. 2017 01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:12,880 - Mort, come home! You've had enough fun 2018 01:24:12,881 --> 01:24:14,757 playing movie director. 2019 01:24:14,758 --> 01:24:17,677 - Yeah, that's it. - I've had enough fun. 2020 01:24:17,678 --> 01:24:20,388 I've had a lot of fun. It's true. 2021 01:24:20,389 --> 01:24:24,267 (Chatter) 2022 01:24:24,268 --> 01:24:25,060 - I still can't... 2023 01:24:25,061 --> 01:24:28,188 This all seems like it's just still part of a plot. 2024 01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,399 I can't comprehend that it's actually over. 2025 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,192 - It is. 2026 01:24:32,193 --> 01:24:35,404 - It's a globe and mail plot to take over Toronto, slowly. 2027 01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:41,576 - It's like listening to war. 2028 01:24:41,577 --> 01:24:43,578 - I kept thinking this was such a beautiful chance. 2029 01:24:43,579 --> 01:24:45,204 - Put too many hopes in one thing. 2030 01:24:45,205 --> 01:24:47,456 It's like putting all your soldiers in one battle 2031 01:24:47,457 --> 01:24:48,959 and then they all get slaughtered. 2032 01:24:49,668 --> 01:24:50,835 - Isn't it great that the illusion 2033 01:24:50,836 --> 01:24:52,962 of movie-making is defeated by the illusion 2034 01:24:52,963 --> 01:24:55,590 of newspaper-making? 2035 01:24:55,591 --> 01:24:58,467 And we all know that not one word of it was true 2036 01:24:58,468 --> 01:25:02,096 and yet we're acting as if it was. How about that? 2037 01:25:02,097 --> 01:25:04,682 Hey, we should go along with them and 2038 01:25:04,683 --> 01:25:06,601 get all the kids in the village 2039 01:25:06,602 --> 01:25:08,853 to demonstrate for us 'cause we... 2040 01:25:08,854 --> 01:25:12,857 (Laughter) 2041 01:25:12,858 --> 01:25:14,818 - That's a very bad idea. 2042 01:25:16,486 --> 01:25:17,487 - Excuse me. 2043 01:25:22,868 --> 01:25:25,244 - I've got a... - My orders are to pack 2044 01:25:25,245 --> 01:25:28,122 and get out of town, so goodbye. 2045 01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:29,123 - It sounds like... 2046 01:25:29,124 --> 01:25:30,124 (Laughter) 2047 01:25:31,376 --> 01:25:33,377 The sheriff is giving you to sundown. 2048 01:25:33,378 --> 01:25:34,254 - Okay, you too. 2049 01:25:34,254 --> 01:25:35,213 Cathy, 2050 01:25:35,214 --> 01:25:36,839 Roger, it's been a pleasure. 2051 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,965 Take care of yourself. 2052 01:25:37,966 --> 01:25:40,092 Very nice. You too, Peter. 2053 01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:41,594 Bye, Sarah. Bye, Jack. 2054 01:25:41,595 --> 01:25:43,096 Oh, come on, honey. 2055 01:25:44,973 --> 01:25:47,892 Don't be foolish. 2056 01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:49,770 Take it easy. 2057 01:25:50,604 --> 01:25:52,605 Very nice. You too, Chris. 2058 01:25:52,606 --> 01:25:53,981 Ken, Chris, Ken. 2059 01:25:53,982 --> 01:25:54,900 Who's Ken? Who's Chris? 2060 01:25:54,901 --> 01:25:56,275 Chris, Ken, Chris. 2061 01:25:56,276 --> 01:25:59,862 - Still don't know? - Chris, Ken. I'm David, he's John. 2062 01:25:59,863 --> 01:26:02,865 - Will you be able to make a film out of it? 2063 01:26:02,866 --> 01:26:03,909 - I don't know. 2064 01:26:07,788 --> 01:26:12,417 (Upbeat folk rock music) 2065 01:27:16,815 --> 01:27:20,318 (Upbeat folk rock music fades) 148369

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