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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640 In the criminal justice system the people are represented 2 00:00:03,675 --> 00:00:05,960 by two separate yet equally important groups - 3 00:00:05,995 --> 00:00:08,085 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:11,160 and the crown prosecutors who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,195 --> 00:00:13,080 These are their stories. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,165 Those were his exact words. I thought, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,845 what I am doing with someone who objectifies people down to numbers? 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Besides which I'm an 8ร‚ยฝ - ask anyone. Maybe an eight when I had the braid 9 00:00:28,675 --> 00:00:32,537 but I won't make that mistake again. And he thinks he's a nine? I know. 10 00:00:32,572 --> 00:00:36,400 With those chicken legs. From now on I'm just going to concentrate on me. 11 00:00:36,435 --> 00:00:38,800 Take some time to think about what I really want. 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Good for you. OK, ciao, bella. See you later, babes. 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,120 All right, hungry people! Come and get it! 14 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,165 Three dead and one serious head injury. 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,200 Joanne Ellis, one of their customers. She's in a bad way. 16 00:01:13,235 --> 00:01:15,080 Right, OK. 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,600 What's this, age before beauty? Something like that. 18 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Joy? I take it you're here for the tour. 19 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Kelly Scott, one of the sales assistants. 20 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,760 Only started yesterday. 21 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,565 And this one's a customer. 22 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Driving licence IDs her as Linda Bowers. 23 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,680 Works in a cake shop nearby. 24 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,700 That's the owner, Steven Marx, 25 00:01:46,735 --> 00:01:48,840 been trading just under a year. 26 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Who found them then? The other sales assistant - Paul Dean. 27 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,440 Came back after his lunch break. And got the fright of his life. Mm. 28 00:01:57,475 --> 00:02:00,517 So, what is this - some sort of glorified charity shop? 29 00:02:00,552 --> 00:02:03,560 Vintage designer, apparently. Not your average tat. 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,525 Blimey, I'll say. Look at that. 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,645 200 quid? I should flog some of my old threads. 32 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,960 You're looking for a masked man. May answer to the name of Zorro. 33 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,660 A sword? You've got some really deep stab wounds, 34 00:02:16,695 --> 00:02:19,765 not to mention a lot of wild slashing and gashing. 35 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,205 Shame the cameras are dummies. Must have been quite a show. 36 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,080 So, we're looking for a homicidal maniac wielding a sword in a public place. 37 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,080 What a nightmare. 38 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,400 I was gone to meet a friend. 39 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,040 I was only gone 30 minutes. 40 00:03:22,075 --> 00:03:23,920 40 minutes max. 41 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Has your...has your boss been having any problems with anyone lately? 42 00:03:28,475 --> 00:03:31,440 Steven? No, don't think so. 43 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,400 We had this couple in this morning but... What couple? 44 00:03:35,435 --> 00:03:37,680 Italian. I thought they were tourists. 45 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,480 The bloke got me unchaining the leather jackets. 46 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,020 Steven caught the girl putting stuff in her bag. 47 00:03:45,055 --> 00:03:47,560 Started shouting in Italian. Then what happened? 48 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Steven said he'd call the cops and they legged it. 49 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,120 OK. Have you got a description for us? 50 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Er...yeah...um... 51 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,400 She was a sort of young Nancy Dell'Olio. 52 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,720 He was a turned-down Mika. 53 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,560 I don't get it. Why would someone do this? 54 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,200 I don't know, son. I really don't. 55 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,120 The DI's called a press conference asking for anyone in the area to come forward. 56 00:04:18,155 --> 00:04:21,160 That's handy. Just a few thousand tourists and shoppers 57 00:04:21,195 --> 00:04:23,657 How come we've got no witnesses? Precisely. 58 00:04:23,692 --> 00:04:26,166 Whoever it was must have been covered in blood. 59 00:04:26,201 --> 00:04:28,605 And they were carrying a bloody great sword. 60 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,725 Matt, this city is full of people walking around with blinkers on. 61 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,840 Covent Garden is full of people standing around in gold paint or fire-eating. 62 00:04:36,875 --> 00:04:40,200 He might not have stood out that much. And he's still out there. 63 00:04:40,235 --> 00:04:42,640 Which is the scary part. Devlin. 64 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,200 Ang, you're a star. 65 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Gianni Patrone and Lia Rossi. 66 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Picked up outside Selfridges with six grand's worth of designer clothing. 67 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,805 And we're sure these are the same two? 68 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:01,800 Your witness ID'd them. Apparently Ms Rossi's dress is one she stole earlier. 69 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,040 But I'm not getting homicidal maniac, that's for sure. Me neither. 70 00:05:07,075 --> 00:05:09,320 But there's just a chance they saw something. 71 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,965 Though up to now they've not been very co-operative. 72 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Let's get in there, give them some encouragement. Whatever it takes. 73 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,085 Commissioner Callaghan wants hourly updates 74 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,240 and once the media frenzy starts our job'll get even harder 75 00:05:24,275 --> 00:05:27,360 so anything you can get out of these two. Anything at all. 76 00:05:27,395 --> 00:05:29,600 We'll talk to 'em. Do we need an interpreter? 77 00:05:29,635 --> 00:05:31,480 I doubt it, they're from Enfield. 78 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,640 I'm telling you, I didn't see anything and I didn't hear anything. 79 00:05:36,675 --> 00:05:38,805 But you admit you were in the shop. 80 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:41,920 And you threatened Steven Marx. Threatened him? Shut up. 81 00:05:41,955 --> 00:05:44,325 And less than two hours later he was dead. 82 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,640 Maybe you went back there, you thought he'd identify you from the CCTV tapes. 83 00:05:48,675 --> 00:05:50,520 Tapes? What tapes? 84 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Are you new? The cameras aren't even real. 85 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,600 Three people. Three people, Gianni, left lying in their own blood. 86 00:05:58,635 --> 00:06:02,000 One girl's head was nearly severed from her body. I know, OK? 87 00:06:02,035 --> 00:06:04,000 I told you, we had nothing to do with that. 88 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,760 If we'd been there half an hour later that could have been us. 89 00:06:07,795 --> 00:06:10,005 You any idea what that feels like? 90 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,360 Must be terrifying. So I'm asking you again, where did you go after you left the shop? 91 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,445 I told you, I don't remember exactly. 92 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,725 You ended up in Oxford Street. Did you go straight there? 93 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,760 I'm not sure. I don't care if you turned over half the shops in Covent Garden, 94 00:06:24,795 --> 00:06:26,640 I just want to know where you went. 95 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Lia, what about Gianni? 96 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,165 Was he with you all the time? 97 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,120 Gianni's the last person you should be harassing. Who would you suggest? 98 00:06:38,155 --> 00:06:40,320 The crackhead in the alley for a start. 99 00:06:40,355 --> 00:06:42,200 What crackhead in the alley? 100 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,325 A total nutter. 101 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,280 Kept banging his head against the wall. 102 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,480 So, what do we think? 103 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,245 About the convenient crackhead? 104 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:54,800 It's about the only bit of the story they agree on. 105 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,405 Get on to all the drop-ins and shelters with a description. 106 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,120 If these two can't pick him out of WADS then get them to do an E-FIT. 107 00:07:02,155 --> 00:07:05,280 And keep them apart, yeah? Strictly no conferring. 108 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,845 Not exactly twins but they could be related. 109 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,160 They could also be half the homeless guys in London. Can Forensics narrow it down? 110 00:07:19,195 --> 00:07:22,480 Apparently not, guv, the prints were just a mass of smudges. 111 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,280 But they have come up with a profile of the weapon. 112 00:07:27,315 --> 00:07:30,125 A single-edged blade, probably military. 113 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Comparisons were run. The closest comparison they do have 114 00:07:33,475 --> 00:07:37,440 is a US-Army-issued bayonet circa 1950. 115 00:07:37,475 --> 00:07:39,097 Just a sec. 116 00:07:39,132 --> 00:07:40,720 Chandler. 117 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,440 Oh, great. Thank you. 118 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Joanne Ellis has regained consciousness. 119 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Just give her some time. OK. 120 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,760 The blade ripped her scalp and dug a trench in her skull. 121 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Joanne, um...when the woman screamed where were you? 122 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,720 T- t-trying on a d-d-dress. 123 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,240 Th-th...there-there was a woman on the floor. 124 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,960 A man hit me. 125 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 The man, did you see his face? 126 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,165 Joanne. Sorry, sweetheart, 127 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,640 I'm going to...going to show you a picture, OK? 128 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,600 If it looks like the man just let us know, OK? 129 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,440 Yes. 130 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,400 All right? Anything? No, more of the same. 131 00:08:50,435 --> 00:08:52,280 What's the word from uniform? 132 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,125 Still going door to door. Nothing definite to report. 133 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Round here the homeless really are invisible. What do you reckon? 134 00:08:59,635 --> 00:09:01,640 Keep on going, meet up in organic beauty? 135 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,280 If we must. 136 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,560 Are you going to buy that? 137 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,120 I wouldn't know whether to wear it or eat it. 138 00:09:12,155 --> 00:09:13,960 Um, can I help? 139 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,965 Yes, actually, you can. 140 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,325 We're looking for some information 141 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,925 regarding the fatal incident in Brewers Alley. 142 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,280 The papers said it was completely random, that he could strike again. Is that true? 143 00:09:27,315 --> 00:09:30,280 Well, we're advising everyone to be cautious, yeah. 144 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,740 I'm sorry, do you...would you happen to recognise this man? 145 00:09:34,775 --> 00:09:38,320 You might have seen him wandering around the area yesterday. 146 00:09:38,355 --> 00:09:40,405 No, not yesterday but the day before. 147 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,765 He was standing right outside the door. Just kept looking in. 148 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,600 I thought he might be watching one of my customers. Anyone in particular? 149 00:09:47,635 --> 00:09:51,080 Um, a pretty girl. Blonde. She comes in quite a lot. 150 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,400 Actually, she signed up for my mailing list. 151 00:09:54,435 --> 00:09:56,240 I teach yoga a couple of nights a week. 152 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,800 Yeah. Linda Bowers. 153 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Was she one of them? I'm afraid so, yeah. 154 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,680 Oh, poor girl. 155 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,685 So, it wasn't random. 156 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,040 Doesn't look like it. No, our mystery man was after Linda Bowers. 157 00:10:16,540 --> 00:10:18,665 Yeah, that's the guy. 158 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:22,340 The girl called us around 10ish. Said some weirdo had followed her home. 159 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:24,820 What, from Neal Street to Southwark? 160 00:10:24,855 --> 00:10:26,745 Yeah. 161 00:10:26,780 --> 00:10:28,745 By the time we got there he was gone. 162 00:10:28,780 --> 00:10:30,985 But we did a drive-by a couple of hours later 163 00:10:31,020 --> 00:10:34,100 and he's standing across the street, walking in circles. 164 00:10:34,135 --> 00:10:36,340 Any ID? Afraid not. 165 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:40,300 No wallet. No driving licence. He didn't want to give us his name. 166 00:10:40,335 --> 00:10:43,700 You didn't bring him in? We couldn't charge him with anything. 167 00:10:43,735 --> 00:10:45,700 So we decided to relocate him. 168 00:10:45,735 --> 00:10:47,620 Sorry? You know. 169 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:52,780 Like what they do with bears. Drove him back across the river and dumped him. 170 00:10:52,815 --> 00:10:55,260 Thought at least that way he couldn't do any harm. 171 00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:57,825 Bears? 172 00:10:57,860 --> 00:11:01,140 Are you saying he was picked up for harassing one of the victims 173 00:11:01,175 --> 00:11:04,420 and we still have no idea who he is? It's like he doesn't exist. 174 00:11:04,455 --> 00:11:06,300 No name, no fixed abode, nothing. 175 00:11:06,780 --> 00:11:10,300 Callaghan's pressuring me to release the E-FIT to the media. 176 00:11:10,335 --> 00:11:13,237 Well, you know what, that might not be such a bad idea. 177 00:11:13,272 --> 00:11:16,140 How many homeless guys are there in woolly hats out there? 178 00:11:16,175 --> 00:11:18,545 We'd be buried alive under reported sightings, 179 00:11:18,580 --> 00:11:21,840 not to mention the chances of the wrong bloke getting lynched. 180 00:11:21,875 --> 00:11:25,100 Hello, Ronnie. Are we keeping you from your afternoon tea? 181 00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:27,785 No, not at all. Sorry, guv. 182 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:29,985 I was thinking about the bayonet. 183 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:33,060 He didn't have it on him when they took him across the river 184 00:11:33,095 --> 00:11:35,065 so he must have got hold of it last week. 185 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:37,505 It's not the kind of thing you find in a skip. 186 00:11:37,540 --> 00:11:41,020 No reports of any bayonets being stolen in the Greater London area. 187 00:11:41,055 --> 00:11:43,105 What if we went to the dealers, 188 00:11:43,140 --> 00:11:46,620 see if any have been carrying any unofficial 20th century items? 189 00:11:46,655 --> 00:11:50,100 Yeah. Turns out Matty's got a secret stash of antique muskets. 190 00:11:50,135 --> 00:11:51,980 Hm. Do you know, I can see that. 191 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:56,220 Yeah, that sounds right. Compatible with an M1 rifle, yeah? 192 00:11:56,255 --> 00:11:58,100 This was last week? 193 00:11:59,140 --> 00:12:01,100 OK, thanks. You've been very helpful. 194 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:05,380 Bloke comes up to Covent Garden first Monday of the month, 195 00:12:05,415 --> 00:12:08,505 says he had a mint-condition M1 bayonet 196 00:12:08,540 --> 00:12:11,020 nicked from his stall by some homeless wanker. 197 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:15,100 Our homeless wanker? Right down to his woolly hat. 198 00:12:15,135 --> 00:12:17,225 Tried to buy it with some vouchers. 199 00:12:17,260 --> 00:12:19,825 That didn't work so he smashed the case and took it. 200 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:23,380 Vouchers. Yeah, he reckons it was for some night shelter. 201 00:12:23,415 --> 00:12:25,940 He had a stack of them. Thought it was a chequebook. 202 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:29,820 That very much resembles John. 203 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:33,265 Would John happen to have a last name? 204 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:36,620 We only know him as John though some of the regulars call him Zero. 205 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:39,420 As in Bravo Two Zero. 206 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:42,140 From Zorro to Zero. 207 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:44,980 Do you mean he's ex-military? No, no. 208 00:12:45,015 --> 00:12:47,020 John's more a one-man army. 209 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:51,260 But he likes to wear the clothes, the boots, all that sort of thing. 210 00:12:51,295 --> 00:12:53,140 I'm sorry, what is this about? 211 00:12:54,180 --> 00:12:58,460 Well, unfortunately, John is a suspect in a murder investigation. 212 00:12:59,580 --> 00:13:01,980 John? That can't be right. 213 00:13:02,340 --> 00:13:04,665 Well, has he been in recently? 214 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:08,420 No, not for a few days. The last time was Thursday, I think, for breakfast. 215 00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:12,300 Do you know where he goes when he's not here? No, I'm sorry, I d- 216 00:13:12,335 --> 00:13:14,660 But are you certain this is the person you want? 217 00:13:14,695 --> 00:13:16,657 It's starting to look that way. 218 00:13:16,692 --> 00:13:18,620 I'm very surprised by this. 219 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:21,820 He doesn't use drugs and he's never violent. 220 00:13:22,820 --> 00:13:25,140 Sometimes he's a little confused, perhaps, 221 00:13:26,060 --> 00:13:29,420 but he struck me as an educated sort of man. 222 00:13:30,340 --> 00:13:32,220 Not dangerous in any way. 223 00:13:33,140 --> 00:13:35,060 Excuse me. 224 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:37,380 Thank you, Father. 225 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:41,865 So, sometimes he's a bit confused. 226 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:46,380 When he's not banging his head against the wall. If he ain't a crackhead, he's a nutjob. 227 00:13:47,940 --> 00:13:51,500 Yeah, I know him. Usually wears army fatigues. Name's John Smith. 228 00:13:52,460 --> 00:13:54,580 You're kidding? It's the name he gave us. 229 00:13:54,980 --> 00:13:57,860 Interesting guy. He recognised my tattoo. 230 00:13:57,895 --> 00:14:00,580 Kushta. Means truth in Aramaic. 231 00:14:01,180 --> 00:14:04,140 John always said it was the language of the common people. 232 00:14:04,175 --> 00:14:06,305 So he was a regular, yeah? 233 00:14:06,340 --> 00:14:10,660 He was. According to this he hasn't picked up his prescription in... 234 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:14,460 nearly three months. That's not good. What's he on? 235 00:14:14,495 --> 00:14:17,585 Risperidone and carbamazepine. It's for schizophrenia. 236 00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:20,240 They tried weekly injections but he'd miss the appointments. What happens if he doesn't take them? 237 00:14:20,275 --> 00:14:22,860 They tried weekly injections but he'd miss the appointments. What happens if he doesn't take them? 238 00:14:22,895 --> 00:14:26,545 Delusions, psychosis. Possibly full-blown mania. 239 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:30,140 Schizophrenics aren't necessarily violent though, are they? 240 00:14:30,175 --> 00:14:32,780 There's always the exception that proves the rule. 241 00:14:33,340 --> 00:14:35,540 Is John in trouble? Afraid so. 242 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:38,665 Do you have any idea where we might find him? 243 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:41,480 Most of these guys register using the clinic address. 244 00:14:41,515 --> 00:14:44,260 So how do they pick up a prescription without an ID? 245 00:14:44,295 --> 00:14:46,540 They have a badge with a temporary NHS number. 246 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:51,300 Although John had his nicked a while back so he just uses his Westminster library card. 247 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:54,660 He has a library card? Yeah, a lot of them do. 248 00:14:54,695 --> 00:14:56,580 Some of them even read the books. 249 00:15:03,180 --> 00:15:06,700 He's been in Ancient History since we opened. Same as always. 250 00:15:06,735 --> 00:15:10,185 We thought evacuating the building would arouse his suspicions. 251 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:14,340 Quite right. You've had no problems with him in the past? No. He just comes to read. 252 00:15:14,375 --> 00:15:17,505 Right, lads, get people out as quickly and quietly as you can. 253 00:15:17,540 --> 00:15:21,060 Whereabouts is he, please? He's in the far corner. Great, thank you. 254 00:15:58,740 --> 00:16:00,660 All right? 255 00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:03,060 Matt, he's coming your way. 256 00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:10,000 Just take it easy, John. 257 00:16:10,035 --> 00:16:12,025 Get away! Police, stop. 258 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:14,305 John, listen. Drop the bayonet. 259 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:17,980 I can't hear you. I'm not listening. I can't hear you. No, no, put that down. 260 00:16:18,015 --> 00:16:20,660 Put that down. Someone will get hurt. I can't hear you. 261 00:16:20,695 --> 00:16:22,620 No, no, no, no. 262 00:16:23,580 --> 00:16:27,520 John Smith, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Steven Marx, 263 00:16:27,555 --> 00:16:31,460 Kelly Scott and Linda Bowers and the attempted murder of Joanne Ellis. 264 00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:48,100 Well done, son. 265 00:16:50,980 --> 00:16:52,900 Are you limping? No. 266 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:57,860 But I am a captain in Jabin's army. 267 00:16:58,220 --> 00:17:00,500 I fought at Kishon River. Calm down, John. 268 00:17:00,535 --> 00:17:03,060 OK? OK? Calm down. 269 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:06,860 It's quite a system. 270 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:10,420 They drive wireless HD to work and they're still hungry. 271 00:17:19,860 --> 00:17:23,345 Worse thing is after a while it almost starts making sense. 272 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:27,260 Are we sure about his name? We're running his prints through the system. OK. 273 00:17:28,220 --> 00:17:31,820 So, let's set up a video ID and get in the eyewitness. 274 00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:37,540 No. 275 00:17:40,580 --> 00:17:42,540 That's him. 276 00:17:44,180 --> 00:17:46,700 Smith's solicitor wants him back on his drugs. 277 00:17:46,735 --> 00:17:49,185 Fine, but we charge him with murder first. 278 00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:52,265 So he's agreed to have a solicitor? As far as we can tell. 279 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:56,420 We've got a match on the prints. So, why have we previously had the pleasure? 280 00:17:56,455 --> 00:18:00,820 John Patrick Smith. One arrest for stalking a woman 16 months ago. 281 00:18:01,260 --> 00:18:04,860 The original charge was threats to kill but the CPS reviewed it 282 00:18:04,895 --> 00:18:07,745 and amended it to Section 2, simple harassment. 283 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:11,820 Eh? He got a 12-month supervision order and paid 200 quid in costs. 284 00:18:11,855 --> 00:18:14,540 Might as well give him a Mars Bar and a pat on the head. 285 00:18:14,575 --> 00:18:16,660 What are the chances of nailing him this time? 286 00:18:21,460 --> 00:18:25,020 Well, do I resign now or do I wait till this hits the papers? 287 00:18:25,055 --> 00:18:27,945 The file says the original charge was way over the top. 288 00:18:27,980 --> 00:18:32,300 And the police had no evidence to support harassment, let alone threat to kill. 289 00:18:32,335 --> 00:18:36,017 And, at the time, Smith had a job. Doing what, for heaven's sake? 290 00:18:36,052 --> 00:18:39,700 Marking legal exams for undergraduate exam boards. God help us all. 291 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:44,420 His defence never referred to his mental state and the prosecution missed it. 292 00:18:44,455 --> 00:18:46,305 My God. 293 00:18:46,340 --> 00:18:48,505 The Home Secretary's hyperventilating. 294 00:18:48,540 --> 00:18:51,900 If the press find out that we had this guy and then we let him go - 295 00:18:51,935 --> 00:18:54,340 Smith's solicitor's withdrawing from the case. 296 00:18:55,140 --> 00:18:57,060 And so the madness begins. 297 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:00,700 He informed me that he no longer requires my services. 298 00:19:00,735 --> 00:19:03,457 Who's representing him? John Patrick Smith. 299 00:19:03,492 --> 00:19:06,145 MA from Oxford, Master of Laws from Cambridge. 300 00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:09,660 Not to mention his PhD. And he did mention it. Several times. 301 00:19:09,695 --> 00:19:11,825 You're not serious? Oh, yes. 302 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:14,665 The lunatic has officially taken over the asylum. 303 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:19,500 And he knows his rights. As long as he's fit to stand trial he's fit to represent himself. 304 00:19:19,535 --> 00:19:21,785 He's not fit for anything. 305 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:24,385 If he represents himself, this will be a farce. 306 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:28,500 It's listed for mention so you can bring it up with the judge. Don't worry, I will. 307 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:33,905 Mr Steel it is usually the defence 308 00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:36,865 who raise the issue of mental competence. 309 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:39,900 I know, but given the unusual circumstances... Very well. 310 00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:43,585 Mr Smith, it says here 311 00:19:43,620 --> 00:19:47,220 that you have a history of schizoaffective disorder. 312 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:50,160 That's correct, my Lord. 313 00:19:50,195 --> 00:19:52,140 Since the age of 23. 314 00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:55,180 I'm prone to manic depression, 315 00:19:56,060 --> 00:19:59,060 paranoid delusions and hallucinations... 316 00:20:00,380 --> 00:20:02,585 unless I'm taking my medication. 317 00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:05,020 And are you currently taking your medication? 318 00:20:05,055 --> 00:20:06,900 Yes, my Lord, ever since my arrest. 319 00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:11,660 And I understand you wish to represent yourself. 320 00:20:12,740 --> 00:20:17,300 Yes, my Lord. I have a first class law degree from Oxford, 321 00:20:17,335 --> 00:20:19,465 as I believe do you, my Lord. 322 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:23,220 Also an LLM from Cambridge and a PhD in jurisprudence. 323 00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:26,940 Without proper counsel Mr Smith will be at a disadvantage. 324 00:20:26,975 --> 00:20:29,585 He could also suffer another psychotic break 325 00:20:29,620 --> 00:20:33,060 in which case the trial would collapse, we'd be back where we started. 326 00:20:33,095 --> 00:20:34,940 But, as Mr Steel is aware, 327 00:20:36,180 --> 00:20:38,100 that's an irrelevance. 328 00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:42,620 Unless prosecution can establish incompetence at this precise moment 329 00:20:42,655 --> 00:20:44,460 then the trial must go ahead. 330 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:47,265 In which case, 331 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:49,980 subject to medical confirmation 332 00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:55,180 of the defendant's fitness to stand trial, we shall proceed. 333 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:57,865 There's one more thing, my Lord. 334 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:01,420 As Mr Steel pointed out, I will be at a disadvantage. 335 00:21:01,455 --> 00:21:03,585 Perhaps to level the playing field, 336 00:21:03,620 --> 00:21:06,100 I might conduct my defence from counsel's row. 337 00:21:06,135 --> 00:21:07,700 Mr Steel? 338 00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:10,900 I don't think it's at all appropriate, my Lord. 339 00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:13,660 The defendant is already in custody. 340 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,025 I will allow it. 341 00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:20,660 As you say, Mr Steel, these are unusual circumstances. 342 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:25,220 A 200-page application to dismiss. 343 00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:28,740 I don't know if we should prosecute him or offer him a job. 344 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:32,620 I don't understand. Why's he not going for the insanity plea? 345 00:21:32,655 --> 00:21:35,940 He thinks he can prove we've got the wrong man. That won't work. 346 00:21:35,975 --> 00:21:39,425 Well, he's challenging every piece of prosecution evidence. 347 00:21:39,460 --> 00:21:43,185 Prentice won't rush to dismiss against a homicidal schizophrenic. 348 00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:48,340 He won't give you an inch either. And he won't be swayed by public opinion, however vitriolic. 349 00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:51,660 I'd be happier if we could find something resembling a motive. 350 00:21:51,695 --> 00:21:53,825 According to Joanne Ellis' statement 351 00:21:53,860 --> 00:21:57,340 he didn't give any sign he even knew who Linda was. Talk to her again. 352 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:02,020 And didn't Smith give a sister as his residential address? Yeah. 353 00:22:02,055 --> 00:22:03,940 I want to meet her. 354 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:07,700 Remember, it's not just Smith in the dock over this one. 355 00:22:07,735 --> 00:22:09,620 Radio? TV. 356 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:11,900 Go easy on the make-up, George. 357 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:18,620 There was lots of screaming. 358 00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:22,500 There might have been words. 359 00:22:23,620 --> 00:22:26,860 Do you have any idea of what those words could have been? 360 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:30,740 Something like, 'Live forever'. 361 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:36,020 Maybe 'life forever'. What does it matter what he said? 362 00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:40,820 The man's a lunatic. If you'd heard him in court last week, you might not be so sure. 363 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:44,820 It said in the paper he's got a law degree. 364 00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:48,105 Yes, he has. 365 00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:51,420 That why he got let off the first time? Cos he was one of your own? 366 00:22:51,455 --> 00:22:54,625 Absolutely not. It was nothing like that. 367 00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:57,320 The trouble was the prosecution didn't know enough about him. They knew he was stalking a woman. 368 00:22:57,355 --> 00:22:59,980 The trouble was the prosecution didn't know enough about him. They knew he was stalking a woman. 369 00:23:00,015 --> 00:23:03,340 Didn't that give them a clue there was something wrong with him? 370 00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:09,020 Mr Ellis, I can't imagine what you're going through, 371 00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:11,500 you and Joanne. 372 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:15,380 I want you to know how sorry I am. 373 00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:18,580 And that makes it all right, as long as you're sorry? 374 00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:21,380 You lot had him and you let him go. 375 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:24,020 And now my little girl - Dad. 376 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:31,700 Yeah, well, we've got ourselves a lawyer too, 377 00:23:32,260 --> 00:23:34,505 us and the other families. 378 00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:38,220 And he's advised us to take a civil action against the police and the CPS. 379 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:42,160 You let us down, Miss Phillips, 380 00:23:42,195 --> 00:23:44,180 and someone's going to pay. 381 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:49,420 When I talked to my brother last month... 382 00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:52,260 he didn't mention Linda Bowers. 383 00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:56,780 He called because he'd overheard someone plotting to kill our parents. 384 00:23:57,860 --> 00:23:59,780 Our parents died three years ago. 385 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:04,540 The woman he injured heard him shout the words 'life forever'. 386 00:24:04,575 --> 00:24:06,380 He probably said 'the wife of Heber'. 387 00:24:06,740 --> 00:24:08,660 It's from the Old Testament. 388 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:14,900 She lured Sisera into her tent with food then stabbed him through the temple. 389 00:24:14,935 --> 00:24:17,740 Does this have a particular relevance for your brother? 390 00:24:17,775 --> 00:24:18,980 Uh. 391 00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:23,220 Johnny went through a religious phase as a teenager. 392 00:24:24,220 --> 00:24:26,585 When he developed schizophrenia 393 00:24:26,620 --> 00:24:29,700 he accused his girlfriend of putting needles in his brain. 394 00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:33,105 He called her the wife of Heber. 395 00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:35,220 Was he violent towards his girlfriend? 396 00:24:36,420 --> 00:24:38,780 He tried to strangle her in his room at Oxford. 397 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:43,780 The next day he was admitted to hospital for six months. 398 00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:46,465 So there's your motive. 399 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,820 I only wanted to find out about his behaviour. 400 00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:52,105 Oh, really? 401 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:55,740 Because last time Johnny was arrested, I kept trying to tell someone 402 00:24:55,775 --> 00:24:57,985 that he needed to be in hospital. 403 00:24:58,020 --> 00:25:02,065 That he needed supervision and support to help him stay on his medication. 404 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:05,900 But surely, given that history, there must have been some way to get him help. 405 00:25:05,935 --> 00:25:08,020 And what would you suggest? 406 00:25:08,055 --> 00:25:09,860 Have him locked up? 407 00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:13,865 Have him forcibly injected with antipsychotics? 408 00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,260 Unfortunately, the mentally ill have rights too, Mr Steel. 409 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,220 I'm sorry. It's just... 410 00:25:20,860 --> 00:25:23,780 For 15 years I've known something like this was coming. 411 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:26,900 And there was nothing I could do to stop it. 412 00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:31,740 It's not about money. I won't say a trial like this isn't expensive, of course it is, 413 00:25:31,775 --> 00:25:34,657 but, at the end of the day, you're faced with a choice 414 00:25:34,692 --> 00:25:37,540 between a public expenditure that is way out of control... 415 00:25:37,575 --> 00:25:39,380 God, 'at the end of the day'. 416 00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:44,500 I sound like the Scotland football manager. Suit looked good though. 417 00:25:44,535 --> 00:25:46,585 What reaction from on high? 418 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:49,865 I have been summoned for a strategy discussion. 419 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:53,580 The good news is Smith's application to dismiss has been denied. 420 00:25:53,615 --> 00:25:56,100 He's pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. 421 00:25:56,135 --> 00:25:58,260 He couldn't have done that from the start? 422 00:25:58,295 --> 00:26:00,317 OK, let's get this over with then. 423 00:26:00,352 --> 00:26:02,340 Accept the plea, establish the facts, 424 00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:05,620 then Prentice can issue a hospital order 425 00:26:05,655 --> 00:26:07,540 and put Smith back where he belongs. 426 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:13,220 With no criminal conviction, he can only be held while there's a mental health justification. 427 00:26:13,255 --> 00:26:16,265 So if he takes his medication he could be out within weeks. 428 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:20,060 Smith knows that. Why else risk an insanity plea? Because he's insane. 429 00:26:20,095 --> 00:26:21,985 OK, OK. 430 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:25,500 And you really think he belongs in prison? There has to be a trial. 431 00:26:25,535 --> 00:26:28,505 You won't get a murder verdict if he goes down this route. 432 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:32,540 I'll talk to him. If I get him to plead manslaughter diminished responsibility 433 00:26:32,575 --> 00:26:34,985 he'll get a sentence in a secure unit or hospital 434 00:26:35,020 --> 00:26:38,140 and there'll be no early release just cos he took his pills. 435 00:26:38,175 --> 00:26:40,020 And if he won't change his plea? 436 00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:42,340 Look, why am I even asking? 437 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:44,900 Fine. Talk to him. 438 00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:56,100 I'd be interested to know what you thought of my application, Mr Steel. 439 00:26:56,900 --> 00:27:00,660 Of course, it's a long shot - Mr Smith, I'm only here to discuss your plea. 440 00:27:00,695 --> 00:27:02,500 Of course. 441 00:27:03,380 --> 00:27:05,545 You know, the... 442 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,900 one thing I regret about pleading insanity 443 00:27:08,935 --> 00:27:11,025 is that there won't be a full trial. 444 00:27:11,060 --> 00:27:13,140 I'd have enjoyed the chance to really... 445 00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:16,660 flex my legal muscles. 446 00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:23,505 Three people are dead. 447 00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:26,260 And a young girl has been left with horrific injuries. 448 00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:29,620 That doesn't bother you? 449 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:33,000 Well, obviously, I'm sorry for what happened 450 00:27:33,035 --> 00:27:35,900 but, you have to understand, that wasn't me, 451 00:27:35,935 --> 00:27:37,820 I'm not that creature. 452 00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:40,340 I...I... 453 00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:43,420 won't take the blame for something that he did. 454 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:47,020 You honestly believe you should walk free? 455 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:50,900 I don't think I should be punished for something I didn't do 456 00:27:50,935 --> 00:27:53,705 and I can hardly be rehabilitated 457 00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:56,785 when I have no memory of committing a crime. 458 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:59,780 Assuming, of course, that you subscribe to the view 459 00:27:59,815 --> 00:28:02,705 that prison is an opportunity for rehabilitation. 460 00:28:02,740 --> 00:28:05,740 I'm here because we're prepared to amend the indictment. 461 00:28:06,980 --> 00:28:09,260 We'll accept a plea of guilty to manslaughter due to diminished responsibility. 462 00:28:09,295 --> 00:28:12,217 We'll accept a plea of guilty to manslaughter due to diminished responsibility. 463 00:28:12,252 --> 00:28:15,140 Is that a joke? You'd be looking at 5-10 years in a secure unit or hospital 464 00:28:15,175 --> 00:28:17,660 as opposed to the 25 you'd get in prison for murder. 465 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:20,460 They'll never send me to prison. 466 00:28:20,820 --> 00:28:24,145 I've got a dozen expert witnesses, 467 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:27,100 all of whom will confirm that I'm insane. 468 00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:30,900 I wouldn't necessarily assume a jury will find you not guilty. 469 00:28:30,935 --> 00:28:33,637 You killed three people. They won't care why you did it, 470 00:28:33,672 --> 00:28:36,340 they'll want to lock you up so you can't do it again. 471 00:28:36,740 --> 00:28:40,380 I feel that's an acceptable risk when weighed against my freedom. 472 00:28:40,415 --> 00:28:42,540 Freedom to do what exactly, John? 473 00:28:44,540 --> 00:28:47,420 Look at how you've been living. If you plead guilty 474 00:28:47,455 --> 00:28:49,757 to manslaughter diminished responsibility 475 00:28:49,792 --> 00:28:52,060 you'll go somewhere where you can get help. 476 00:28:52,095 --> 00:28:54,385 Do you know the kind of people 477 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:57,660 who end up in mental institutions, Mr Steel? 478 00:28:57,695 --> 00:28:59,500 I am NOT one of them. 479 00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:03,860 I don't belong there. You have an illness, John. 480 00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:07,940 Yes, but when I'm medicated I'm just like you. 481 00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:13,540 I think you find that frightening. 482 00:29:16,660 --> 00:29:19,740 Perhaps you know how it feels, 483 00:29:19,775 --> 00:29:22,425 that urge to just let go 484 00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:24,340 and to hell with the consequences. 485 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,340 There are always consequences. Are there? 486 00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:34,660 I would have made a brilliant lawyer, Mr Steel. 487 00:29:34,695 --> 00:29:36,580 I really would. 488 00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,420 And I will get to prove it. 489 00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:48,785 He's treating the whole thing like a game. 490 00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:51,580 We can't counter his plea by claiming he was sane. 491 00:29:51,615 --> 00:29:53,905 The witnesses say he was climbing the wall. 492 00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:57,140 Now he's calmly debating the merits of the penal system. 493 00:29:57,175 --> 00:30:00,077 He's different when he's medicated. That's hardly news. 494 00:30:00,112 --> 00:30:02,980 It's practically the basis of his defence. Exactly. 495 00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:06,865 As long as he takes his pills his mind works just fine. 496 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:10,420 So when he decided to stop taking them he knew what he was doing. 497 00:30:10,455 --> 00:30:13,665 But he didn't go out and get high. That's his natural state. 498 00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:18,580 I'm naturally bad-tempered. It doesn't mean I can punch you when you annoy me. Like now. 499 00:30:18,615 --> 00:30:22,665 I'd like to see you try. We're talking about prosecuting for an omission. 500 00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:27,220 We wouldn't have a leg to stand on. I'm saying he knew what would happen and did it anyway. 501 00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:32,940 Have you ever been on antipsychotic drugs, Dr Armitage? 502 00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:35,585 No, I haven't. 503 00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:41,020 Well, I am using every ounce of energy that I have right now 504 00:30:41,055 --> 00:30:42,900 just trying to talk to you. 505 00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:47,560 It's like I'm pawing through a thick blanket. 506 00:30:47,595 --> 00:30:51,460 I feel stiff and half a step behind everybody. 507 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:53,780 I feel so tired just trying to... 508 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,020 ..hold on to reality. 509 00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:01,660 I don't know. I think letting go is almost a relief. 510 00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:07,225 He knows what he's like without medication. He wilfully chose to stop taking it. 511 00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:11,980 I know where you're going with this. He created the circumstances that led to the murders. 512 00:31:12,015 --> 00:31:15,057 Letting go isn't just a relief. He actively enjoys it. 513 00:31:15,092 --> 00:31:18,065 You can't punish someone for having a medical condition. 514 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:21,785 Smith says as long as he's on his medication he's as sane as the next man. 515 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:26,460 Makes you worry about the next man. The legal system can't deal with the mentally ill. 516 00:31:26,495 --> 00:31:29,637 You only work with absolutes. He slaughtered three people. 517 00:31:29,672 --> 00:31:32,780 While in the grip of a terrifying and overwhelming delusion. 518 00:31:32,815 --> 00:31:35,140 You say he's shown no remorse. How can he? 519 00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:39,080 Convincing himself that crazy John is a totally separate entity 520 00:31:39,115 --> 00:31:42,580 is the only way that he can cope. He's playing the system, Roddy. 521 00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:45,385 He's an expert on legal insanity 522 00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:48,820 using his condition to get away with murder. If he pleads guilty 523 00:31:48,855 --> 00:31:51,785 his coping mechanism will crumble. Then where does he go? 524 00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:55,140 The way I see it, the longer he's locked up the safer for everyone. 525 00:31:56,020 --> 00:31:59,660 It's as if your expert witness may as well be working for the defence. 526 00:32:00,340 --> 00:32:02,880 I can work around it. The Home Secretary feels very strongly that we should take the plea. 527 00:32:02,915 --> 00:32:05,420 I can work around it. The Home Secretary feels very strongly that we should take the plea. 528 00:32:05,455 --> 00:32:09,780 He thinks it would be a PR disaster if Smith is found not guilty 529 00:32:09,815 --> 00:32:11,865 after a long, high-profile trial. 530 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,500 And what did you say? I told him that it was entirely inappropriate 531 00:32:15,535 --> 00:32:19,100 for him to try to influence a prosecution of a high court case. 532 00:32:19,135 --> 00:32:21,305 Go George. Well, I am indeed the man. 533 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:24,380 But we are not operating in a vacuum here, James. 534 00:32:24,415 --> 00:32:27,385 Mental health charities are banging down the door 535 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:30,940 saying that the system fails to indentify vulnerable defendants 536 00:32:30,975 --> 00:32:34,305 and this lot want to start a campaign 537 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:37,620 for a national register for the mentally ill. 538 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:42,020 If Smith does win in court then the fallout could be horrendous. 539 00:32:42,055 --> 00:32:44,380 In all directions. He's not going to. 540 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,665 He can play the victim all he likes. 541 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,945 Even if a jury thinks that he was insane when he drew the bayonet, 542 00:32:50,980 --> 00:32:54,580 what about when he stole it or when he decided to throw away his pills? 543 00:32:54,615 --> 00:32:56,785 He didn't just make one choice, George. 544 00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:59,260 A whole series of decisions led to those deaths. 545 00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:03,460 And if Joanne Ellis has to live with the consequences... 546 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:06,300 then so should Smith. 547 00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:15,780 I saw the manager and another woman on the floor bleeding. 548 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:20,380 Then I heard a shout... 549 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:23,380 ..and this man ran towards me. 550 00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:27,900 Something hit my head. 551 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,260 I don't remember anything else. 552 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:35,660 Miss Ellis, can you describe the long-term effects 553 00:33:35,695 --> 00:33:37,540 of the head injury you sustained? 554 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:44,340 I've lost the sight in my right eye. 555 00:33:47,180 --> 00:33:51,220 I have limited muscle control on my left-hand side... 556 00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:55,300 ..particularly my left arm. 557 00:33:57,020 --> 00:33:59,185 I get very bad headaches 558 00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:02,140 and I have problems with concentration and memory loss. 559 00:34:03,380 --> 00:34:05,940 What did you do for a living before the incident? 560 00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:09,620 I was a dancer with the Royal Ballet. 561 00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:15,620 And will you be able to continue in that career at some point? 562 00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:19,900 No. 563 00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:23,340 Thank you. No further questions. 564 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:29,660 Miss Ellis, um... 565 00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:33,220 I'm very sorry that you were injured. 566 00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:38,140 When you first saw me I didn't look like this, did I? No. 567 00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:41,140 Do you remember what I used to look like? 568 00:34:41,175 --> 00:34:43,945 You were dirty, with longer hair. 569 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:46,660 You were disgusting. I looked like somebody who should have been in a mental hospital. Yes. 570 00:34:46,695 --> 00:34:49,340 You were disgusting. I looked like somebody who should have been in a mental hospital. Yes. 571 00:34:49,375 --> 00:34:52,140 Like somebody who is clearly insane. My Lord - Yes. 572 00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:56,700 In fact, you're pursuing a civil action, aren't you, against the CPS 573 00:34:56,735 --> 00:35:01,260 for allowing someone so unmistakably insane to walk free? 574 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:04,905 Yes, I am. So, if you blame anyone, 575 00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:08,260 it's really the justice system that failed to protect you. 576 00:35:08,295 --> 00:35:11,700 My Lord, please. He's right. You let him do this. 577 00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:15,660 You could have stopped him but you let him go. 578 00:35:15,695 --> 00:35:17,540 And look what he did to me. 579 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:23,940 That will do, Mr Smith. 580 00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:29,180 Miss Ellis, 581 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:31,860 you may step down. 582 00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:42,980 Antipsychotic drugs have powerful side effects. 583 00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:46,620 It's the most common reason patients stop taking them. 584 00:35:46,655 --> 00:35:48,745 So, in the case of the defendant, 585 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:51,260 he didn't stop because he thought he was cured. 586 00:35:51,295 --> 00:35:53,345 I don't believe so. 587 00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:55,260 So he was aware of the consequences. 588 00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:59,025 He knows he's susceptible to paranoid delusions 589 00:35:59,060 --> 00:36:02,660 and that these previously led him to try and strangle a girlfriend. 590 00:36:03,340 --> 00:36:06,380 And do they explain why he was following Linda Bowers 591 00:36:06,415 --> 00:36:08,260 and why he ultimately killed her. Yes. 592 00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:11,940 He believed she was plotting to kill him and that Miss Ellis and the others were her accomplices. 593 00:36:11,975 --> 00:36:14,460 He believed she was plotting to kill him and that Miss Ellis and the others were her accomplices. 594 00:36:14,495 --> 00:36:16,340 So, just to be entirely clear, 595 00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:21,025 at the moment when the defendant stopped taking his medication 596 00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:25,620 he knew that would cause the return of the delusions that had previously led to violence. 597 00:36:25,655 --> 00:36:27,500 Yes, he did. 598 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:30,300 Thank you, Dr Armitage. 599 00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:34,820 Dr Armitage, um... 600 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:41,820 ..you described the side effects of my medication as powerful. 601 00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:44,145 That's correct. 602 00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:46,100 So, in your opinion, 603 00:36:47,340 --> 00:36:50,620 whilst experiencing these powerful side effects, 604 00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:55,620 would I have been able to accurately predict the likelihood 605 00:36:55,655 --> 00:36:58,100 of any future psychotic behaviour? 606 00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:01,585 No. Thank you. 607 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:04,900 And will he be able to predict it in the future? No. 608 00:37:04,935 --> 00:37:07,905 Mr Steel, you are not at liberty 609 00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:11,900 to fire questions at the witness whenever the mood takes you. 610 00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:24,625 That poor girl was your best bet 611 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:27,065 and Smith got her to say that he wasn't to blame. 612 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,660 But did you see how Smith reacted when Roddy talked about next time? 613 00:37:30,695 --> 00:37:33,497 So he realises he's trapped in a cycle of behaviour. 614 00:37:33,532 --> 00:37:36,265 What good does that do us? For Smith to admit his guilt 615 00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:39,545 he must confront what he's done and accept he might do it again. 616 00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:43,380 We need someone who's been through that cycle with him time after time. 617 00:37:43,415 --> 00:37:45,665 Patricia won't help you put her brother away. 618 00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:48,940 She knows him better than he knows himself. She's on his side. 619 00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:50,940 Doesn't mean she's on his witness list. 620 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,060 With a manslaughter charge he could still go to prison. 621 00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:02,420 If he did, he'd be in a secure unit under medical supervision. 622 00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:05,620 But unless he changes his plea, 623 00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:10,460 he could be found guilty of murder. That won't happen. 624 00:38:10,495 --> 00:38:12,585 They can see that he's sick. 625 00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:15,500 If he's found not guilty and he's back on his medication, 626 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:18,900 they won't legally be able to hold him. 627 00:38:18,935 --> 00:38:20,820 I don't believe this. 628 00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:24,865 I've spent half my life dreading what he might do 629 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:29,220 and this happened and now you're telling me it makes no difference, nothing's changed. 630 00:38:29,980 --> 00:38:33,060 I'm sorry. I can't do this any more. I'm sorry, I just can't. 631 00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:35,745 Then break the pattern. 632 00:38:35,780 --> 00:38:39,020 Make the jury understand how badly John needs long-term care. 633 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:41,660 You're asking me to betray my brother? 634 00:38:41,695 --> 00:38:42,900 No. 635 00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:45,980 I'm asking you to save him. 636 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:53,665 Miss Smith, is this the first time 637 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:56,140 your brother has stopped taking his medication? 638 00:38:57,340 --> 00:38:58,860 No. 639 00:38:59,580 --> 00:39:03,140 Over the past 15 years it's happened more than a dozen times. 640 00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,265 How did you deal with this? 641 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,980 Well, I begged him to keep taking his pills. 642 00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:13,260 I warned him that he might...harm himself... 643 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:17,220 ..or other people if he stopped. 644 00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:22,660 But he just said other people would have to stay out of his way. 645 00:39:22,695 --> 00:39:25,700 Did he ever offer an explanation for his behaviour? 646 00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:27,700 Yes. 647 00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:30,900 I found out he'd rented a flat in Ladbroke Grove... 648 00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:33,300 on the 14th floor. 649 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:36,300 What did you do? 650 00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:38,940 I went there. 651 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,140 He was sitting on the living room floor. 652 00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:46,140 He said he'd tried so hard to stay on his medicine 653 00:39:46,175 --> 00:39:48,500 so that he'd get a job as a... 654 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:51,580 ..lawyer or even a teacher... 655 00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:55,300 ..but that no-one wanted him because he was sick. 656 00:39:56,580 --> 00:39:59,140 He said there was no point in taking his medicine. 657 00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:02,385 He said he'd rented the flat 658 00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:04,420 so that he'd be able to jump off the balcony. 659 00:40:07,060 --> 00:40:08,940 He...he needs somebody... 660 00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:11,865 to make him take his medication. 661 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:15,700 He's trying to convince you that he's in control but he can't help himself. 662 00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:19,220 Somebody has to help him. 663 00:40:19,255 --> 00:40:21,140 Please, God. 664 00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:30,500 I understand you studied the Bible, Mr Smith, the Old Testament in particular. 665 00:40:30,535 --> 00:40:33,260 Is that right? Yes. When I was younger, yeah. 666 00:40:33,860 --> 00:40:36,420 And this was before you became ill. 667 00:40:36,455 --> 00:40:38,980 Is that correct, Mr Smith? Yes. 668 00:40:39,660 --> 00:40:43,465 And these details and these images, 669 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,745 they stayed with you when you became ill. 670 00:40:45,780 --> 00:40:48,620 In fact, they became the basis of your delusions. 671 00:40:48,655 --> 00:40:50,620 That's right, yeah. 672 00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:53,260 So, does it work the other way? 673 00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:57,820 I don't understand. Well, when you're on your medication, as you are now, 674 00:40:57,855 --> 00:41:00,597 do you ever have any thoughts or memories 675 00:41:00,632 --> 00:41:03,340 from the times you've been delusional? 676 00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:07,345 Not really, no. 677 00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:11,460 'Not really, no.' So, what, you remember some things? 678 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,500 Occasionally. People's faces, perhaps? 679 00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:17,345 Sometimes. 680 00:41:17,380 --> 00:41:19,465 What about their voices? 681 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,420 Do you hear voices, John, things they might have said? 682 00:41:22,455 --> 00:41:24,505 Er... 683 00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:28,420 I suppose so. Do you remember your sister coming to see you at Ladbroke Grove? 684 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:32,180 Where? The flat when you were planning to kill yourself. 685 00:41:32,215 --> 00:41:34,425 Uh...er...I wasn't... 686 00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:37,700 Um...I was...I was...I was taking my medication then. 687 00:41:38,140 --> 00:41:40,705 So you weren't delusional at that time? No, no. 688 00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:44,980 Do you remember seeing Joanne Ellis' face? N...n... Do you remember her voice? 689 00:41:45,015 --> 00:41:48,625 She would have been screaming as you came towards her with a bayonet. 690 00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:53,180 What about when you pushed her to the ground or sliced the bayonet into her skull? No. 691 00:41:53,215 --> 00:41:56,185 Maybe you thought she was a witness, that she'd run away. 692 00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:59,900 Maybe you thought she'd call the police. It wasn't that. What was it? 693 00:41:59,935 --> 00:42:03,780 I thought that um... What? What did you think? Explain it to me. 694 00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:07,180 I can't it. Explain it to me, John. 695 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,065 I thought that sh... 696 00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,940 I thought that they wanted to kill me. 697 00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:22,300 I thought that you all wanted me dead so I... 698 00:42:23,340 --> 00:42:26,460 had to... I had to stop you. I didn't care how. 699 00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:32,100 No further questions. 700 00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:48,060 John Smith, you have pleaded guilty to the charge of manslaughter. 701 00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,265 Yes. 702 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:55,940 Before sentencing, do you wish to say anything in mitigation? 703 00:43:01,660 --> 00:43:03,825 Yes, um... 704 00:43:03,860 --> 00:43:07,480 I have suffered from schizoaffective disorder since the age of 23. 705 00:43:07,515 --> 00:43:11,100 I'm prone to manic depression, paranoid delusions, hallucinations. 706 00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:17,780 The paper's full of needles. They gave it to me to hurt me. It cuts and I bleed. 707 00:43:17,815 --> 00:43:21,820 Mr Smith. I heard what Deborah said unto Barak. The Lord will discomfit me. 708 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:26,140 You're looking at me. 709 00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:29,140 I made them do that, Patty. 710 00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:33,920 You look like a pony. Please don't do that otherwise I'll leave. 711 00:43:33,955 --> 00:43:37,340 Mr Smith, sit down. Mr Luthra, please. Wait, wait, wait, wait. 712 00:43:37,375 --> 00:43:39,780 This isn't my armour. They took my armour. 713 00:43:40,060 --> 00:43:43,345 I absolutely can't wear this armour! 714 00:43:43,380 --> 00:43:48,260 Mr Smith, we shall take care of your armour once we are finished. 715 00:43:48,295 --> 00:43:50,837 Now, please sit down. 716 00:43:50,872 --> 00:43:53,380 I'm sitting down. 717 00:43:54,660 --> 00:44:00,540 I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down. 718 00:44:00,575 --> 00:44:02,477 I'm sitting down. Sitting down. 719 00:44:02,512 --> 00:44:04,380 I'm sitting down. I'm sitting down. 720 00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:17,665 Drink? 721 00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,140 Er, sorry, I'll be working late. 722 00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:23,940 They've put John Smith on suicide watch. 723 00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:27,820 Mm. He sent me a copy of his closing speech. 724 00:44:29,060 --> 00:44:32,980 Is it any good? It's well structured, persuasive. 725 00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:37,420 Pretty much what I'd have said if I'd been defending him. 726 00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:41,140 So, he really could have been a brilliant lawyer then. 727 00:44:43,940 --> 00:44:45,860 Well, he certainly had potential. 728 00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:52,420 So, are you buying then? 62711

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