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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,280 {\an8} 4 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,240 As far as I can remember, 5 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,080 I've always had dreams of houses and doorways 6 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:52,960 and hallways and hiding places. 7 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,040 {\an8} 8 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,920 As a kid, we tend to push things down. 9 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,280 But when you turn to adult, 10 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,600 I think that's when all the feelings start coming back. 11 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,360 For a long time, I didn't know who I was. 12 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,920 I knew I had fragmented memories 13 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,760 of a little white sister. 14 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,920 But I couldn't put the pieces together. 15 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,240 {\an8} 16 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,360 {\an8}I had to get answers. 17 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,200 I had to find out who I was. 18 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,040 I've never shared this story before. 19 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,040 And I don't think anyone's heard it like this before. 20 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,000 I've had to go back so I can move forward. 21 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,480 Uh... 22 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,520 We're here one reason and one reason only, 23 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,280 as far as I can make out, 24 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,160 and that's Brenda. 25 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,960 And I can only fill in bits and pieces, 26 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,600 but I hope it all works out. 27 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Why are you nervous? 28 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,680 I don't know. Just sort of... 29 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,920 All this gear around and... 30 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Now I'm here. 31 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Well, I met Connie in the sole milk bar, 32 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,720 which was run by her dad. 33 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,600 I got sight of her and I thought, 34 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,760 "Jeez, this is a nice-looking girl working in there." 35 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,320 He came back for lunch. 36 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Sort of met and, um... 37 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:57,080 Yeah, sort of, things went on from there. 38 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,280 And I ended up with a hamburger and a bride 39 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,960 in the end, so that was alright. 40 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,440 We were in a house, which we sold, 41 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,240 and then we rented a place and we built our own home. 42 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,160 I cut the frame out myself, bricked it up. 43 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,320 And it come together very nicely. 44 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,240 We had our first daughter, Rebecca, 45 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,480 and then we thought, "Well, let's keep going." 46 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,920 We were always thinking 47 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,680 of having a bigger family. 48 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,080 We'd talked about adoption a bit. 49 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,920 There were kids out there that needed... needed a home 50 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,800 and that weren't as fortunate as we were. 51 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,200 We thought, "Well, why don't we go and pick up the papers 52 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,440 "and see what we have to do to fill them in?" 53 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,480 It just got put on the shelf, I suppose, for a while. 54 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,440 I fell pregnant in between that and I had a boy. 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,440 And then we got the surprise call. 56 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,240 The department rang, wanting to know 57 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,280 if I was still interested in having a child. 58 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,520 They said, "We have someone here, 59 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,080 "but it's a little Aboriginal girl." 60 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,680 And I thought, "Well, that's interesting." 61 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,720 When my baby was only nine weeks 62 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,120 and my little girl was only two and a half, 63 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,279 I said, "Oh, well, it'll be hard but it'll be worth it. 64 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,959 "We've been waiting long enough." 65 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,839 We had good room in the house. 66 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,160 We were paying our bills and eating well. 67 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,360 So we landed up ringing them back 68 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,920 and saying, "Yes, we'll take her." 69 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,240 We got to delivery date at the railway station. 70 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,760 We stood there for a while 71 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:43,280 waiting for this train 72 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,720 and we kept looking at each other, sort of thing, 73 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,440 and gee, excited, apprehensive, I suppose. 74 00:04:55,840 --> 00:05:00,920 Then there was a lady with a little Aboriginal girl. 75 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,760 She said, "Mr and Mrs Ockers?" 76 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:07,200 I said, "Yes." 77 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:08,920 She said, "This is Brenda." 78 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,200 Yeah, I can live that moment forever 79 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:16,840 even if I get to be 200 years old, I think. 80 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,320 It was a very quick exchange. 81 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,280 Was just really... and not much said at all. 82 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Then she walked off and that was it. 83 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Brenda didn't say a word. 84 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Was a big step for her too, 85 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,760 a little girl to come to a family she doesn't know. 86 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:35,280 All aboard! 87 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,040 One day just melded into the next. 88 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,120 She just went along with Gene and Becca at those times. 89 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:46,840 Life began as a family of three children. 90 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,560 And that was the good bit. 91 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,680 It was good. 92 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:04,880 This way a bit. 93 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,840 Yeah, but you... 94 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,920 - Darling... - I had it perfect. 95 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,040 I know you're perfect. 96 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,920 No, I'm not perfect. I said I had it perfect. 97 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,640 When I first met Mark, 98 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,040 he was taking children on cultural camps. 99 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,800 I've had the honour of paddling and walking 100 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,400 with the Bundjalung people. 101 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,720 I collaborated with them 102 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,600 to get other people to experience 103 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,960 what I have experienced. 104 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,600 It was a bit scary at first. 105 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,360 He looked like a drill sergeant, 106 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,200 especially when he spoke. 107 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,800 Once you've thrown your gear in the rescue boat, 108 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,160 come and grab a PFD out of the two red bags. 109 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,800 The pocket goes to the front. 110 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Once you've done that, go to the back of the trailer 111 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,840 and grab your paddle, please. 112 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,320 I started warming up to him 113 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,920 when I went on the camps with him. 114 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,680 It was a time for me where I was learning myself. 115 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,240 But before we start, just going to 116 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,520 hand you over to Jarulah. 117 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,160 He's gonna do the welcome to country. 118 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,680 When I first met Brenda, 119 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,840 yeah, it was a bit of a mystery. 120 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 She was shy, timid, 121 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,120 couldn't really even look you in the eye, 122 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,600 especially to a whitefella. 123 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,120 At the beginning, Mark just wanted to know 124 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,880 more about me, 125 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,160 and I hadn't shared that with anyone before. 126 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,680 That drew me to her 127 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,680 because I could see Brenda was carrying a story. 128 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,960 We just needed to find out what that story was. 129 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Rebecca and Brenda's relationship was very close. 130 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,120 They held hands. They played together. 131 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,320 You know, there was no arguing about the clothes. 132 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,520 Connie dressed them basically all the same. 133 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,159 We had a playpen thing and they all got in. 134 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,679 And Brenda said, 135 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,600 "How come the baby is not black, is not dark?" 136 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,280 I knew then that I had to actually tell her 137 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,840 where she came from. 138 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,880 She took it as it was. 139 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,560 She was quite happy. 140 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,120 She started school. We enrolled her. 141 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,520 We put her in as Brenda Ockers. 142 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,240 We were gonna hope she's gonna be an Ockers eventually. 143 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,000 That's the whole system 144 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,520 that we were going through - 145 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,680 to foster to start with, to intention for adopt. 146 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,000 The whole family loved her, you know? 147 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,880 She was part of us. 148 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Down the line we put an application in 149 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,960 as an adoption. 150 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,120 Within a very short time, we got a visit 151 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,600 from the welfare that was looking after the case. 152 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:36,240 We were hoping it was all gonna go through, 153 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,160 that's why he was there. 154 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,520 You know, get some paperwork done. 155 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,120 We thought, "This is a home run." 156 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,120 She just wanted to be loved and secure, 157 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,520 and that's what she had with us. 158 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,080 Everyone seated. Stay nice and tight. 159 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,960 Come on down, Aunty Brenda. Give her a big clap. 160 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,520 One day, Mark asked me to share my story on camp. 161 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,200 I didn't know much about my story, 162 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,360 but I knew that I had a little white sister. 163 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,320 I don't think I could really remember any detail, 164 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,640 but I just remember her. 165 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,280 I remember that... 166 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,600 ...there was love there. 167 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,960 This guy from the welfare, 168 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,120 he come in, sat down on the lounge 169 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,000 and we said, "Well, we're gonna adopt her." 170 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,920 He says, "Oh, no, no." 171 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,920 He says, "Things have changed, mate. Things have changed. 172 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,320 "She's gotta go up to Newcastle. 173 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,200 "That's where her family is." 174 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,480 And that shocked us, because we had no idea 175 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:10,120 that we were going to have to give her up. 176 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,480 He says, "We'll give you some more instructions, 177 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:16,120 "and you'll have to take her up there for a day visit." 178 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,800 I said, "Why," 179 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,680 seeing we had her already for so long, 180 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,040 and what was... how can they do that, 181 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,040 and they said, "Oh, the father is a reformed alcoholic." 182 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,320 And Connie was talking to Brenda a bit, 183 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,280 trying to set her in the situation, 184 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,800 which would have been very difficult. 185 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,640 How can you say to a child, 186 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,080 you know, they haven't been home for five, six years, 187 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,240 and say, "Oh, this is your mummy"? 188 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,680 When we first got there to take her there, 189 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,280 it was quite nerve-racking. 190 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,640 We both got out and took Brenda... 191 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,240 ...and walked up to the front door. 192 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,040 We were given no intel at all, 193 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,000 even at that time. 194 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:28,040 We weren't told about all the other kids. 195 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,240 And then Brenda's mum was standing 196 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,760 at the end of the table 197 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,920 with this cold stare at me. 198 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,040 It was... something I'll never forget, 199 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,920 how desperate she looked, you know, and hurt. 200 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 You could see she was hurt in her eyes. 201 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,560 Her mother wasn't very happy. 202 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,120 I didn't have eye contact with her. 203 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,080 You know, I couldn't even talk to her. 204 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,720 All I said is, 205 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,720 "Brenda, we'll see you later in the afternoon." 206 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,760 She knew the protocol, that she had to go back that day. 207 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,160 But that was... that was quite remarkable... 208 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,840 ...when you face that. 209 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,520 And you think, "What have I done? 210 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,440 "What have I done?" 211 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Oh, I gotta stop. 212 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,320 Nah. 213 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,200 After my first time sharing, 214 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,440 I felt good. 215 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,080 I felt a bit of relief. 216 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,040 But every time I shared it, 217 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,440 it was scary and it was, again, hurtful, 218 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,120 because it was triggering the trauma that was inside of me. 219 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:56,280 I started getting more flashbacks, more memories. 220 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,320 Mmm! 221 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Yay! 222 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:11,480 But it was still not knowing anything 223 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:13,560 about my white family, 224 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,640 who were missing in my life. 225 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,800 When we went home, she was very quiet. 226 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,320 You can imagine how she felt, 227 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,240 in a little tricky visit for three or four hours, 228 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,440 and then you gotta go. 229 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Once we saw what was there, 230 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,080 we knew that it just wasn't right. 231 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,000 You know, what... what went on wasn't right. 232 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,080 We thought we were the heroes 233 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,920 but we ended up being the villains 234 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,440 in the piece, really, 235 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,120 to deprive a mum of her child. 236 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,920 So, it wasn't long after the first visit 237 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360 that we had to pack up all her belongings 238 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,000 and take her back. 239 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,920 We spent a bit more time 240 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,040 than we normally would with her, 241 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,600 that's for sure. 242 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,200 Made it special, you know, just with the little things. 243 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,640 And, uh... tried to prep her a bit 244 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,600 for what was coming up. 245 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,800 And I said to her, "Don't you ever forget us, 246 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,600 "and make sure when you get older, you come and find us," 247 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,360 and she said, "I will, I will." 248 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,640 Had I known that I'd never get her back, 249 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,080 no, I don't think I would have taken her on, 250 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,240 because even after she left, 251 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,280 they asked us if we wanted another child, 252 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,080 and it was complete, straightaway, "No way." 253 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,840 I didn't want to break my heart... 254 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,440 ...have anyone else break my heart like that. 255 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Just packing away the stuff was sad. 256 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,200 Then you know it's all over. 257 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,160 I couldn't go back into the house then after that 258 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,680 when we dropped her off. 259 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,120 I landed up staying in the car with Rebecca, 260 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,920 'cause we took Rebecca with us, 261 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,280 'cause we thought that'd be nice for her, to say goodbye. 262 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,080 We had to walk in there - the longest walk I've ever had. 263 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,040 You're sort of thinking, "Jeez, you know, 264 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,920 "this is it. 265 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,560 "This is the end of that chapter of our lives." 266 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,520 And that was a pretty quiet drive home. 267 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,040 We just had to get on with our lives then, 268 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,720 but hoping that, you know, she was... she was happy. 269 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,839 But it was hard. 270 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,920 It was hard. 271 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,680 When I came back, I didn't talk to anyone about 272 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,840 my white family and living with them, 273 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,080 because my black family, 274 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,560 they looked like they knew each other 275 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,520 and they lived with each other for a long time, 276 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,920 and I had no connection to that. 277 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,880 And I felt like I was intruding in on their family. 278 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,920 Growing up, Mum had told us 279 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,800 that we were all taken away from her, 280 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,320 that we were part of the Stolen Generation, 281 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,360 because we were stolen children. 282 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Were you taken away from your parents? 283 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Yes, I was taken away from my mother as a baby. 284 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Did this just happen to you? 285 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,120 Who else did it happen to? 286 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,680 Oh, quite a number of children. 287 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,520 Why were they taken away? 288 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,000 I don't know what the reason was. 289 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,800 I suppose they thought they could give us better homes 290 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,240 away from our mothers. 291 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,880 Between 1905 and 1969, 292 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,720 Indigenous children were taken from their families 293 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,480 to be assimilated into white society. 294 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,560 We wasn't told where our mother lived, 295 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,680 who were they, none whatsoever. 296 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,280 They've become known as 297 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:37,800 the Stolen Generation. 298 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,520 It's estimated 100,000 Aboriginal children 299 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,880 were removed before the practice was abolished 300 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,880 in 1969. 301 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,160 {\an8}Compensation is certainly owing, 302 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,080 {\an8}and I think what is owing to white Australia too 303 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,640 {\an8}is the true history of this country. 304 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,200 The true history of this country has not been told. 305 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,560 The first time I heard about the compensation scheme 306 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,120 was when my husband took some politicians 307 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,120 on a paddle. 308 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,640 He met somebody... named Jan Barham. 309 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,240 She said to me, 310 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,280 "I'm the lady behind the compensation scheme 311 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,840 "to help get Indigenous people get compensation 312 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,520 "for being stolen from their families." 313 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,000 And I said, "That's amazing." 314 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,440 I said, "My wife's Stolen Generation. 315 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,960 "She was taken away in 1973." 316 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,200 And her mouth sort of dropped and she said, "1973?" 317 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,720 I said, "Yeah, 1973." 318 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,160 "You sure she was stolen?" 319 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,480 I said, "Yeah." 320 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,120 Survivors of the Stolen Generation 321 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,520 stand alongside members of parliament 322 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,960 only decades after government policies 323 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,320 changed their lives forever. 324 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,720 Jan invited us down to Parliament in Sydney. 325 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Every other Indigenous person that was there 326 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,520 was removed before 1969. 327 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Brenda was the only one that was removed after 1969. 328 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,640 But never did we feel like we were any different, 329 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,840 because everyone in that room was taken by welfare. 330 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,280 As a mother, I just cannot even comprehend 331 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:12,320 what it was like for your mothers to lose you. 332 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,560 And it was the state's institutions 333 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,320 who told them to think white, act white. 334 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,320 We can never give you back those years, 335 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,800 but we can try to make amends. 336 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:26,960 After I applied for the compensation scheme, 337 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,880 I just waited on an answer. 338 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,000 For me, it wasn't about the money. 339 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,000 It was about helping... 340 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,240 ...my family heal from that. 341 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,200 Helping them find justice. 342 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,200 Growing up, we never talked about 343 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,200 being taken away, 344 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,920 being black, acting white. 345 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,200 Trying to find my identity in all of that... 346 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,560 Where do you belong? 347 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,600 I have five children of my own and four grandchildren. 348 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,640 Mark has four children of his own. 349 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,040 I needed to find out who I was 350 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,760 so I can let them know who they are. 351 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,800 But also, I knew that there was a longing inside 352 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,880 for me to go find my white family. 353 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,280 I think it was Rebecca's love 354 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,240 that was pulling me down that path. 355 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,000 I could feel it but I couldn't see it. 356 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,640 And I realised that I had to get answers. 357 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,880 I had to find out who I was. 358 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,200 I had to go back. 359 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,000 Brenda. 360 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,880 This is your street, Brenda. 361 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,680 -Same. - Yep. 362 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,160 It's not the same, eh? 363 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,280 Brenda Mum. Here she is. 364 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:22,960 Look at you. 365 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,720 - Hello! How are you? - Hi, Mark. 366 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,640 - Good, thank you. - Wonderful to see you. 367 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,320 Mmm. 368 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,080 This is the home that we got, um... 369 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,280 ...to get our children back who were taken from us. 370 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,440 Planted a lovely big strawberry tree out there. 371 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,120 You can see the strawberry tree. 372 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,680 Mulberry tree. 373 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Mulberry. Whatever it was. 374 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,760 And, um... 375 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,840 ...we used to get the strawberries off it. 376 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Mulberries. 377 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:56,840 And this is where, when we... 378 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,000 I'd say my mother is... 379 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,920 ...giving... 380 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,760 ...and kind and gentle. 381 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,600 She's funny. 382 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 She'd just break out in song and dance anywhere. 383 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,920 And she's got a confidence about her that... 384 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,560 ...yeah, I really admire. 385 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Dad was a pastor. 386 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,000 I think it was their faith 387 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,360 that held them together for so long. 388 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,440 He'd get his tape recorder out 389 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,000 and we'd just sing Christian songs all night. 390 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,680 That's what he was like. 391 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,840 So, I got those tapes 392 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,200 and I got them put on... 393 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,840 ...some of them put on CD, 394 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,360 so I'll be able to play them when I go to my new home 395 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,600 and sit down and bring back all those memories. 396 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,720 About 10 years ago, Dad... had a stroke. 397 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,920 He's been in a nursing home for 9 or 10 years now 398 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,160 and, um... he can't walk. 399 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Um... he can't see. 400 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,320 But he can hear. 401 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,040 We go in and we'll tell him how the family's going, 402 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,760 how... how we're all doing. 403 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,560 He's a strong-willed man and he's still there today. 404 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,240 It's an old, um, film. 405 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,920 Come home one evening, 406 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,920 {\an8}My little children 407 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,720 weren’t running around anymore 408 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,720 ...they were missing 409 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,920 {\an8}And I felt pretty well down-hearted 410 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,360 {\an8}without children to greet me home. 411 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,040 When I got home, um... my wife said 412 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,560 that our little children's been taken away from us. 413 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,160 All seven of them. 414 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,880 We was terrible down-hearted 415 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,440 and big emptiness in the heart 416 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,600 where nobody could... nothing could fill it. 417 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240 Only your little children filled that spot. 418 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,040 So when we were taken away, 419 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,880 did they send us all to the one home 420 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,280 or did they separate us? 421 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,280 They sent you to the one home when they... 422 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,800 Which one was that? 423 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,360 ...took you all from the courthouse. 424 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Like, in Gil or Dubbo. I don't know where. 425 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,680 Yes, but which home... 426 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,440 And from there, we didn't know. 427 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,960 - Don't know nothing. -Oh, OK. 428 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,720 We never gave up, me and Pop see. 429 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,560 If he was there when Pop come... 430 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,680 ...Pop was home when he come to the house, 431 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,480 I know what Pop might have done to him. 432 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,240 He wouldn't have let him take... 433 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,200 He wouldn't have let him take his kids, don't worry. 434 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,520 No, he wouldn't have. He'd have... 435 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 He could've brought the police and everybody there. 436 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,760 He wouldn't have got them. 437 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,520 He just happened to be at work that day. 438 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,760 "On 22 February 1973, 439 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,000 "at the age of two years, 440 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,080 "in this day, charged before this court, 441 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,840 "for that, at Gilgandra... 442 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,240 "..is a neglected child..." 443 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:21,920 "..hereby committed to the care of the minister 444 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,880 "to be dealt with as a ward 445 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,000 "admitted to the state control... 446 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,680 "..given under hand and seal at this court... 447 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,640 "..this 10th day of April, 1973." 448 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,920 When I received my welfare files, 449 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,520 it didn't make sense to me. 450 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,320 It just didn't add up. 451 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,600 It was just all disconnected and rearranged. 452 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840 I knew the family. 453 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,320 I got to the first page 454 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,440 and I broke down. 455 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,880 I felt for Brenda. 456 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,480 I couldn't believe what they were writing 457 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,280 about Brenda's mother and father. 458 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,880 They were making all these accusations 459 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,280 but they never had the story because they never asked. 460 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:26,600 Someone else telling our story made me angry. 461 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,720 It wasn't who we were. 462 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,880 It wasn't reflecting our family structure. 463 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,200 It wasn't the truth. 464 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,760 ♪ I got the joy bells 465 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,680 ♪ In my heart 466 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,320 ♪ I got the joy bells 467 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280 ♪ In my heart 468 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,040 ♪ I'll sing his praises 469 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,960 ♪ Throughout the ages 470 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600 ♪ I've got the joy bells 471 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,800 ♪ In my heart. ♪ 472 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,400 I'll never forget them songs... 473 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,800 ...'cause it meant a lot to me 474 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200 to sing them in the churches and that. 475 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,800 Yeah. 476 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Oh, everything made us happy, Everything. 477 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,240 When we got married, we were just so happy. 478 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,040 We had children. We were happy with them. 479 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,160 And Gary, he was a pastor. 480 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,240 He loved talking about the Lord to people. 481 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,160 We went places, done a lot of travelling around. 482 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,800 And, like, if we was at one house, 483 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,440 they'd ring up and say, 484 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,040 "Oh, we're gonna have a cottage meeting tonight. 485 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,840 "Can you come over? 486 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760 "Bring the guitar, ukulele, whatever." 487 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,600 All night, just singing and praising the Lord 488 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,640 and sitting up just talking, you know. 489 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,480 One day we just decided to go out to Gilgandra. 490 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,120 Gary was working on the council with his brother. 491 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,920 We stayed with a Christian family. 492 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,720 But before he goes to work, 493 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,520 he used to get a bag of lollies, 494 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,280 and every time they'd come home, 495 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,800 they'd run out to him. 496 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800 They loved him. 497 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,960 Every day he'd just go to work 498 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,480 and I'd be home with the children, 499 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160 sending them to school and that. 500 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,920 We just heard a knock on the door one day. 501 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,000 They said they wanted to talk to me. 502 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,920 And when I went out, it was the welfare. 503 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,560 He just had his papers there and he said to me 504 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,840 that he'd come to take my children. 505 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,360 And I didn't know what to say or do. 506 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,640 And I begged him and asked him not to take them. 507 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,000 I said, "Just wait until my husband comes home." 508 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,920 But he said no, that he had to take them then. 509 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,520 So I didn't know what to do. 510 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,040 I didn't know where they went to. 511 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,800 They didn't tell me where they were taking them. 512 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080 I had seven children 513 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,680 and the whole seven of them were taken. 514 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,880 When Gary came home, 515 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,960 he asked me where the children were, 516 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,720 and I told him what happened. 517 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,880 He went down to the police station 518 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,120 to see if they could help him. 519 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,440 He said to Gary that if he gets a better job, 520 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,480 decent house, 521 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,600 he would help him get them back. 522 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,280 That's what they told him. 523 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520 And that's the police station you run down to 524 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,800 to tell them that your kids were taken. 525 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,520 The police station, yeah. 526 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,080 - Yeah. -That's it. 527 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,080 Gilgandra Courthouse. 528 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,880 That the courthouse there? 529 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,440 -Yeah. -That's the courthouse? 530 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,000 That's all changed. 531 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,880 Mum had asked us 532 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,800 to go out Gulargambone for a reunion with the family. 533 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,440 Gulargambone and Gilgandra, 534 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,640 they're neighbouring towns. 535 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,840 We went to the courthouse at Gilgandra. 536 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,000 Mum wouldn't get out of the car 537 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,560 but I wanted to have a look. 538 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920 Come on, then. Brenda. 539 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,240 To me, that's the place 540 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,480 where we were deemed neglected children. 541 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680 That's where we were told 542 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,680 Mum and Dad wasn't doing their job 543 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,880 as a mother and a father 544 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,760 by their standards. 545 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,240 Come on, let's go. 546 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,320 We can't hang around here with the police here. 547 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,840 It's funny, 'cause you're in a story together, 548 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,920 but you're on different journeys, 549 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,360 you're on different paths. 550 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,320 And sometimes it's hard to see someone else's path 551 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,160 when you're stuck in yours. 552 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 It's hard to see the trauma in someone else 553 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640 when you're stuck in your own trauma. 554 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,080 When we had to go to court, 555 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,240 I just sat out with the children. 556 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,120 I thought it'd be easy 557 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,520 and that, you know, that they'd just say 558 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,240 "Oh, well, made a mistake," 559 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,200 or, you know, "They can give your children back to you." 560 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,760 Gary came out and said that they have to go. 561 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,880 And then when he came out, the welfare... 562 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,480 ...I said to him, "Can I make a bottle?" 563 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,680 And that's when I made the bottle. 564 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Give it to Gary to... 565 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,640 ...just give it to her when she got hungry. 566 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,159 He just put all the kids in the back, 567 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,000 drove off. 568 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920 And they were just all trying to turn around 569 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,159 and look at their mother and father... 570 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,960 ...to wave to us. 571 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,440 What could you say? 572 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,000 You can't say anything. 573 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,400 We were very lonely. 574 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,639 We'd just sit on their beds, 575 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,600 pick up their little teddy bears, dolls, 576 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,320 and cuddle them. 577 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,960 What can you do? 578 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,520 No little kids running around, 579 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,640 singing out, "Mummy, can I have this?" 580 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:01,200 "Daddy, can I have that?" 581 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,000 There's nothing you could do... 582 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,960 ...but sit there with all that pain and hurt... 583 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,400 ...of your children being taken from you. 584 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,400 It's all you can do. 585 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680 This is where he took youse all, from here. 586 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,920 Do you want to go see it? 587 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,280 It's OK. 588 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,800 - Come on. - I'll be fine. 589 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,480 Hmm? 590 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,800 - It's good. - And where was we? 591 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,320 When they come and got us? 592 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,080 - Inside. Youse were playing. - Inside. 593 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,480 And I was out here talking to him, yeah. 594 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,080 Yeah. 595 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,880 And Pop was at work. 596 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,880 So we can go and see Bubbie. 597 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,840 Do youse want to go inside or what? 598 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,000 Yeah. 599 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,520 She hadn't been to the house where we were taken from 600 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,520 since we were taken. 601 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,520 I just wanted her, I suppose, 602 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,520 to go back to that haunted place 603 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,880 and to let her know that, you know, 604 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,680 it might be a scary place in our memories and our minds, 605 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,920 but I think returning to these places 606 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,840 brings a sense of healing. 607 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,920 That's all covered in too, eh? There was a bedroom there. 608 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,760 Yeah. There's still a bedroom out the back there. 609 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,600 The bedroom out there, that's where we were staying in, 610 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960 that bedroom out there, yeah. 611 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,480 A lot of them down in... 612 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,040 I thought returning to the house 613 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,000 would bring back some memories for myself. 614 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,000 But... 615 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,080 ...I-I didn't have any memories. 616 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,520 It felt... 617 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,160 ...like being in an empty room. 618 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,760 That's how I could describe it. 619 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,600 There was nothing in there. 620 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,920 ♪ Spend my time 621 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,520 ♪ With my family 622 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,240 ♪ Spend my time 623 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,280 ♪ With my family. ♪ 624 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,280 I tell you, it was very, very... lonely at night. 625 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,120 And all those lonely nights and Christmases 626 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,440 that they were away from us, 627 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,480 we were very sad 628 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,800 that we couldn't spend it with them. 629 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,240 But we knew in our hearts that we'd get them back. 630 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,480 We found a house in Armatree. 631 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,640 We made the house homely. 632 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,920 Gary would get up early to go to work. 633 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,840 I'd have to get up then with him 634 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,560 to get the house ready, clean, 635 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,560 for the welfare to come and check the house out. 636 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,840 He never said anything to me. 637 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,800 He'd just walk through the house, check it, 638 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,000 and away he'd go again. 639 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080 What more could I do for the welfare? 640 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,160 Them fellas out there in... Gilgandra, 641 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,920 they wouldn't... 642 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,120 ...wasn't helping us enough, 643 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,280 because they would just come into the house, check it out, 644 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,800 and you'd... you'd never see them until the next week. 645 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,600 We just thought that if we come back to Newcastle, 646 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,680 we'd be seeing other welfares down here. 647 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,240 And when we came back down here, 648 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,000 we got a house in Mayfield 649 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,720 and that's where we had our other baby that we had. 650 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,080 I just done the house up 651 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,200 the same way I did in Gilgandra. 652 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,160 Gary would be at work every day 653 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,360 and the welfare would come, talk to me. 654 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,160 Very kind fella. 655 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,840 All of a sudden, 656 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,480 we got them saying, you know, 657 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,720 you can get your children back. 658 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,920 And we were just excited. 659 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,440 So thrilled, we was. 660 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,400 We got two home. 661 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080 Then we got another two home, 662 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520 another two, and then... 663 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,600 It was good that we had those children with us, 664 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,280 but I knew the other one was coming. 665 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,680 All my children came back to me, 666 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,640 and that's the most important thing in my life... 667 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,320 ...'cause I don't know what I would have done 668 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,840 without my children. 669 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,680 And when I got them back, 670 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,360 we just enjoyed life. 671 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,360 We settled down, 672 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760 tried to give them the best life that we could. 673 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,480 I'm a good mother. 674 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,520 Yeah. Good mother. 675 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,440 {\an8} 676 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,240 {\an8} 677 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,800 Going back through Mum's side of the story, 678 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:23,240 I felt like I was finally getting some answers, 679 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,960 but I... 680 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080 ...I just couldn't put the pieces together. 681 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,960 There was pieces missing, like a puzzle. 682 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,760 And if I didn't go back and find answers 683 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,720 on both sides of my families, 684 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,520 black and white, 685 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,360 I still wouldn't know who I am. 686 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,440 I still wouldn't know where I belong. 687 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,240 I've always had a memory there. 688 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,440 I knew it was my white father 689 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,880 taking me back to my mother and father's place. 690 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,200 I thought that they had just dropped me off 691 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,720 and, you know, I thought 692 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,240 they were coming back to pick me up and take me home. 693 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,160 For a long time, I felt abandoned by my white father. 694 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,320 I thought that they didn't want me anymore. 695 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:18,080 I wanted to know now 696 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,320 did they ever love me? 697 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,640 Did they ever think about me? 698 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,720 And I knew there was something missing, 699 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,800 and that was my little white sister. 700 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,560 There was a deeper love there that nothing could take away. 701 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,280 And that longing inside of me was calling me. 702 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:44,720 When I went back into the files, 703 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,720 I saw the address that we had lived at. 704 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,320 So I just searched up and down the street 705 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,720 on the... on Google. 706 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,920 Things started coming back to me. 707 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,680 I had some sort of connection there. 708 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,320 I had been there before. 709 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,440 My memories were there. 710 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,920 I just didn't know how to reconnect to that place. 711 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,080 She was so excited to find the address. 712 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,480 But at the same time, 713 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,320 it was that fear of being rejected again, 714 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,000 the scariness of all the "what ifs", 715 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,040 'cause she knew if she opened that door, 716 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,240 it could hurt. 717 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,120 But also, I couldn't... 718 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,800 ...do it out of respect for my mother. 719 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,560 And I wanted to... 720 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,840 ...get her permission to do that 721 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,000 before I even went there. 722 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,040 Brenda was putting it off. 723 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,560 She was hesitant and reluctant and she wanted me to do it, 724 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,360 and I said to Brenda, "This is not my space. 725 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,160 "You need to do this. This is your story." 726 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:53,280 I was beating around the bush 727 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,000 and just making conversation, I think, and... 728 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,160 ...I just plucked up the courage to ask her. 729 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,000 "Can I go see my white family?" 730 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,640 Yeah, and she just said, 731 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,960 "What do you want to go find them for?" 732 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:19,920 I'm her mum. 733 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,760 I was the one that had her. 734 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,400 And I fought for her... 735 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,080 ...until I got her back. 736 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,960 "Why would you want to go 737 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,760 "and visit your white family again... 738 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,960 "..when you've been taken away from me?" 739 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,920 You know? 740 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,280 "And to get youse all home, it was just..." 741 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,240 Just so happy to get them all home. 742 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,600 And to say, "Nobody will touch my kids again, nobody. 743 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,800 "Nobody will take my kids again." 744 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,760 She had a story and I had a story, 745 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,360 and my side told me that there was love there... 746 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,440 ...where her side was telling her 747 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,360 that there was hurt and pain there. 748 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,920 And I could understand that. 749 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000 You know, why would she want to go back 750 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,720 and see those people, 751 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,320 her white parents who looked after her? 752 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,920 But there's also a bit of love in me that... 753 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,120 ...I can give to her a blessing 754 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,400 and say, "Right, well, you can go back and you can... 755 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,720 "..search for your white mum and dad. 756 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,440 "Find out." 757 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,920 Mum had the grace 758 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,440 to let me do what I needed to do, 759 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,720 and then I thought, "Oh, this is it." 760 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,720 Are you putting them herbs on now? 761 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,080 Yeah. 762 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,520 I thought we could look up the name, 763 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,200 my little white sister's name, Rebecca Ockers. 764 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,040 So, Mark's daughters, Kiara and Amy, 765 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,760 started to search for that. 766 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,240 I think we had 'Ockers'. 767 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,320 {\an8}All we had was Ockers, and it was Eugene, Jesse and Rebecca. 768 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,520 - And a Conchita and... - And a Conchita and Herman. 769 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,160 We were just searching, searching, searching. 770 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,920 And then we finally click onto, 771 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,040 like, maybe our 30th web page. 772 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,480 Oh. 773 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,840 This is what it kind of came up with. 774 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,960 "Rebecca Regina Lamond/Ockers." 775 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,640 And then it had, "Daughter of Herman and Conchita Ockers, 776 00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,040 "mother to Blake and Shae, sister to Eugene and Jesse." 777 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,000 And they found a death notice... 778 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,360 ...of Rebecca's. 779 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,240 And I said to them... 780 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,120 ..."It can't be true. 781 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,680 "That..." 782 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,720 So I asked them to look at the birth date on the notice, 783 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,040 with the birth date on my files, from the welfare files. 784 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,760 And it was her. 785 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,680 The one I felt closest to in my life 786 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,320 was now forever out of my life. 787 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,000 All I could do was walk into my room and cry my heart out. 788 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,080 Brenda needed some time, some space 789 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,800 to reflect on that. 790 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,040 That's what amazes me about her. 791 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,000 She's very resilient. 792 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,440 She didn't have closure with Rebecca. 793 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,280 But she was also drawn from the love she had 794 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,360 from her white mother and father. 795 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,920 And our hope was... 796 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,520 ...are they still around? 797 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,760 Are they still alive? 798 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,760 Can we find them? 799 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,000 So, that was our next step. 800 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,600 We found Conchita. 801 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,280 We couldn't find her before because her name is Connie. 802 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,920 She goes by Connie, not Conchita. 803 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,240 So we were like, "We found them, Brenda." 804 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,560 "Hi. I'm Kiara Matthews. I'm Brenda's stepdaughter. 805 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,920 "She would love to meet up or even talk on the phone 806 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,160 "if you would want to." 807 00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,920 Connie then responded, "We would love to talk to her." 808 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,320 - Smiley face. - Smiley face. 809 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,000 I was... I was really excited. 810 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,320 There's been a whole big gap in my life for so long, 811 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,320 and now I'm... I'm finally getting something. 812 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,440 Connie said to Kiara 813 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,680 that she would ring me that night. 814 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,320 I just wanted to prepare myself. 815 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,760 I just wanted that moment for me. 816 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,840 After so many years, to actually get a message 817 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,640 to say that, you know, Brenda wanted to get in contact, 818 00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,080 I was just blown away. 819 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,880 I just couldn't believe it. 820 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,920 I just said, "Maybe it's not her." 821 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,920 Connie said, "It is Brenda. 822 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,920 "And she wants to know if we'll talk to her." 823 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,240 And I says, "Of course! Of course we will." 824 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,440 We were waiting on the table, we're sitting there, 825 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,800 anxious to... to ring. 826 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,240 I think we rang a bit earlier than we were supposed to. 827 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,040 Once we got through, it was just quiet. 828 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,760 And then all of a sudden, we said, "Hello?" 829 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,520 And then we heard Brenda say, "Hello?" very quietly. 830 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,920 I said, "I can't believe that it's you." 831 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,040 I'm speechless. 832 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,480 All I say to them is, "Well, what do youse look like now?" 833 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,040 I said, "Oh, I'm a bit like Brad Pitt. 834 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,560 "A little bit shorter." 835 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,880 He doesn't look anything like Brad Pitt. 836 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,920 So, um, yeah, I was like, "Oh, yeah, do you?" 837 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,080 And he calls me 'Bren' and... 838 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,320 ...it really made me feel like 839 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,080 I had something there with them. 840 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,920 I said to them, 841 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,760 "It'd be lovely to come and meet youse." 842 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,200 We were just hoping... 843 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,320 Couldn't come quick enough to see her, 844 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,520 and to get back some of the history 845 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,000 that we'd lost with her. 846 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,000 Then I said, "Oh, OK, then. 847 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,640 "See you soon." 848 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,200 It was a pretty long drive, 849 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,480 but we wanted to get down there, 850 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,880 so we didn't worry about the time. 851 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,840 She kept in contact while she was driving down, 852 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,280 where she was, 853 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,640 so we were getting more and more hyped up 854 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,280 to see her. 855 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,920 Get a phone call, look down, and it's Mum. 856 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,640 When Brenda Mum gives you a phone call, 857 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,880 if you don't answer, she don't give up. 858 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,920 She'll just dial that number continuously, 859 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,040 and I don't know how many missed calls Brenda had. 860 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,480 I think it just hit me after that, 861 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,120 "What if I open this door 862 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,080 "and it doesn't go how I want it to go? 863 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,240 "If it doesn't look like how I want it to look?" 864 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,720 But we just kept going. 865 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,120 It was very nerve-racking, 866 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,720 'cause I kept looking down the driveway 867 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,720 and you didn't know, you know? 868 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,240 We saw the car drive up and that was it. 869 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,160 We just... I just burst into tears. 870 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,280 And... 871 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,520 Because, um... 872 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,720 ...it was something... 873 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,920 ...we were waiting for for so long. 874 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,320 And, uh... 875 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,040 ...when... when she came out... 876 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,680 ...we just ran to each other. 877 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,240 We just hugged and... 878 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,000 ...and that was... it was such a good thing... 879 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,800 ...after so long. 880 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,640 Driving up the driveway, 881 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:51,040 I told Mark to get it on video, on the iPad. 882 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,680 She gave me one job. 883 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,800 She said, "Mark, take the iPad." 884 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,240 And I'm not good on that at the best of times. 885 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,920 I didn't film it. 886 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,920 So, I didn't do my job well. 887 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,040 But the emotion was too much. 888 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640 So, we missed the opportunity. 889 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,680 And... 890 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,600 Yeah, we just cuddled and embraced each other. 891 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,520 We sit down, made a cup of tea 892 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,800 and sat and looked at each other in awe, 893 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,240 you know, like, "This is happening." 894 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,760 They showed us photos of all the family. 895 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,360 And in nearly every photo, 896 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,240 me and Rebecca's holding hands 897 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,920 and close, cuddling. 898 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,840 Yeah, I just... I wanted to know, 899 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,520 did Rebecca ever think about me? 900 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,640 Did she ever wonder where I was? 901 00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:50,440 Did she want to find me? 902 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,360 Well, she'd already known that she was passed. 903 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,040 She died of a medical problem. 904 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,600 She was just out of hospital and it went wrong. 905 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,120 How do you get over that? You know? 906 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,600 Rebecca always had... 907 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,520 ...wanting to catch up with Brenda again. 908 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,640 I think she was searching as well. 909 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,280 It's just sad that we couldn't... it didn't happen. 910 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,000 But at least they've still got... 911 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,560 ...she's still got some photos and some happy memories 912 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,080 of when they were together, 913 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,680 and Rebecca, growing up, 914 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,120 always sort of thinking of her as well. 915 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,080 I think inside it was... 916 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,840 ...unlocking doors 917 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,000 that had been closed for a long, long time. 918 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,880 I saw someone who loved that life, 919 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,040 someone who fitted in, 920 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,080 someone who... 921 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,240 ...was happy, happy to be there. 922 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,480 After we settled down 923 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,240 and we started asking each other questions, 924 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,800 there was so much to talk about. 925 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,800 Brenda was excited and getting answers 926 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,600 and finding out more about her parents 927 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,320 and more about Rebecca. 928 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,360 And we were both feeling the warmth from them. 929 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,880 Yeah, we were just sitting at the table, yarning. 930 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,240 Then, suddenly, Connie asked me a question. 931 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,280 I said to Brenda, "How's your family?" 932 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,040 I said, "Is your father still an alcoholic?" 933 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,360 I don't know how hard I kicked Brenda, 934 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,440 but I just straightaway gave her a kick in the shins, 935 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,000 as if, "Where did that come from?!" 936 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,920 "What? 937 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,520 "My father was never an alcoholic. 938 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,120 "Why are they talking this way about my father? 939 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,280 "They don't even know him." 940 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,640 And I said, "Oh, we always thought that 941 00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:50,600 "that was the reason you were taken, 942 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,760 "because he was an alcoholic. 943 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,680 "That was... That's what we heard." 944 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,560 It was good, in a way, 945 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,720 because then that opened the door for a conversation 946 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,480 to bring in the truth. 947 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,280 And then Mark jumped in and said, "No, no." 948 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,920 And Brenda too. 949 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,840 There was never any trouble with the alcohol 950 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,600 because, you know, he's always been a man of God. 951 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,160 And I says, "Well, you know, 952 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,800 "this is some of the information we were getting." 953 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,760 They were lied to and we were lied to. 954 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,960 My mum and dad were lied to. 955 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,000 I remember her going down there. 956 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,320 She told me, rang me and told me, yeah. 957 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,720 And I just asked her, "How did it go?" 958 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,320 And... and, "What happened?" 959 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,920 And she brought back some photos and showed us. 960 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,920 And I suppose in my heart I knew that she was safe... 961 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,040 ...and she was well looked after 962 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,880 ...by these white parents. 963 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,920 And that they... 964 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,040 ...that they had the love there to give her, 965 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,800 as well as my love for her. 966 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,920 We were having a yarn with Mum around the table 967 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,320 about our experience down there with my white family 968 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,160 and what they had told us 969 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:38,000 about what they were told, how Dad was an alcoholic. 970 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,240 She was shocked. She was hurt. 971 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,240 She was angry. 972 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,680 And I don't know what they thought. 973 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,080 I honestly don't know what the white parents thought. 974 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,840 We were a Christian family, preaching the Gospel. 975 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,840 And I don't understand that 976 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,000 or why they'd say things like that. 977 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,040 I couldn't take that. 978 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,520 If that's what was based on 979 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,120 the children getting taken away, 980 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,880 why wasn't it written down? 981 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,360 It just... you just can't get it out of your mind. 982 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,760 Why? 983 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,200 Why did he do it? 984 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,840 "However, it appears 985 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480 "that until early 1976, 986 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,560 "there has been no requests by the parents 987 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,240 "for information on Brenda." 988 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,320 They're saying at no stage 989 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,320 did you ever request information on your daughter. 990 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,880 That makes you out to be 991 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,120 a mother who doesn't even care for her children. 992 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,920 Care about her children. 993 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,080 It says in another file that... 994 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,600 She's to start school... 995 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,560 ...she's to start school in '77. 996 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,040 Yet on there it says '76. She's come back... 997 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,200 And in mine it's '77, 25 June. 998 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,080 So... so what we're now discovering 999 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,360 on every sibling's file, 1000 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,880 there's all different dates and all these discrepancies 1001 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,560 and nothing adds up. 1002 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,560 -Nothing. -Nothing. 1003 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,120 I was looking for answers... 1004 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,040 ...from the system that took us, that broke us. 1005 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,880 It was just... 1006 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,400 ...seemed like lies. 1007 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,560 The system pulls you down, 1008 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,320 and Brenda didn't need to be pulled down any further. 1009 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,560 Nothing is fact, nothing is accurate. 1010 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,080 They just write things as they see fit. 1011 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,640 Come on, mate. End of the year, every year. 1012 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,080 {\an8}That day, all I can remember is... 1013 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,840 {\an8}...getting taken in the car. 1014 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,960 They took us all to a hospital. 1015 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,680 {\an8}I can still remember this smell, eh, 1016 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,160 of methylated spirits. 1017 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,760 They must have been... 1018 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,760 ...putting it in their hairs 1019 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,520 and just trying to scrub them with it. 1020 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,680 I can... listen... hearing all this screaming, 1021 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,000 bellowing out for Mum and Dad and... 1022 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,360 And, um, I said, "I'm supposed to be here to protect them." 1023 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,800 You know? Like... 1024 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,520 We never really talked about 1025 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,720 what had happened to us. 1026 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,160 Some of us still don't. 1027 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,680 Going back through story 1028 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,320 I think has helped me to open up a bit more, 1029 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,480 and now is allowing them 1030 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,600 to maybe talk about their story a bit more. 1031 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,080 ...but because you're the oldest and you remember more 1032 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,440 and you got a bit more to tell than most of us. 1033 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,800 I was fostered out to this family. 1034 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,240 Nelson Bay, wasn't it? 1035 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,760 White family up in Nelson Bay. 1036 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,040 And we were just doing some shopping. 1037 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,880 Next minute I heard this voice 1038 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,360 and it said, "There's Gary Boy." 1039 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,200 Yeah, I turned around and it was Dad. 1040 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:14,880 That was the... 1041 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,760 ...sweetest voice you ever heard, you know? 1042 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,360 He was so excited and happy. 1043 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,120 I wanted to run over and cuddle him, but... 1044 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,760 Like, with the... them foster parents there, 1045 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,840 I didn't know what to do, so... 1046 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,600 You know, they were 12 foot away 1047 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,320 but it felt like 1,200 miles, you know? 1048 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,040 It's just terrible what they done to us 1049 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,680 and what they done to Mum and Dad. 1050 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,880 Like she said, they shouldn't have took us. 1051 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,080 They should have just left us there. We were... 1052 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,240 She looked after us really good, Mum, you know? 1053 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,760 They should have just left us there. 1054 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,760 To the mothers and the fathers, 1055 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,640 the brothers and the sisters, 1056 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,480 for the breaking up of families and communities, 1057 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,880 for the pain, suffering and hurt 1058 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,920 of these Stolen Generations, 1059 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,640 we say sorry. 1060 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,840 A future where this Parliament resolves 1061 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,800 that the injustices of the past 1062 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,200 must never, never happen again. 1063 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,680 After I applied for the compensation scheme, 1064 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,120 I received this letter. 1065 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,120 "From the information provided, 1066 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,720 "the Stolen Generations Reparation Scheme 1067 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,920 "has determined that you do not meet 1068 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,840 "the eligibility requirements 1069 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:50,440 "as your date of birth is 24 November 1970. 1070 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,040 "This means that you could not have been removed 1071 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,000 "by the New South Wales Aboriginal Welfare Board, 1072 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,360 "as it was abolished in 1969." 1073 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,440 Growing up, 1074 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,080 I had been told that I was a stolen child. 1075 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,960 And then they turn around and they tell me that... 1076 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,640 ...I wasn't. 1077 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,000 In their eyes, 1078 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,640 taking us away was the right thing to do. 1079 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,560 That meant Brenda's mother and father 1080 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,200 were still classified as neglectful parents 1081 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,920 and Brenda was still a neglected child. 1082 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,240 It's not right. It's not right. 1083 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,920 We have feelings. 1084 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,440 As mothers, we have feelings. We hurt. 1085 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,400 I never, ever neglected my children. 1086 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,280 Never. 1087 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,120 It doesn't matter about the Act. 1088 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,320 Doesn't matter about it. 1089 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,160 My children are still a part of the Stolen Generation. 1090 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,000 The Stolen Generation. 1091 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,080 It felt like being rejected again, 1092 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,560 abandoned. 1093 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,040 All I saw was the hurt and the pain. 1094 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,480 Who am I? 1095 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,360 What's my identity in this space? 1096 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,720 We went to the system to try to get help and healing. 1097 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:52,320 And every... door that I thought was open 1098 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,000 ...slammed on my face. 1099 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,920 That just made me even more angrier, 1100 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,320 but determined... 1101 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,280 ...to find another way for justice. 1102 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,440 I thought the story needed to be told. 1103 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,400 I thought the truth needed to be told. 1104 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,000 Expressing all that anger and frustration out on paper, 1105 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,640 I can see the lies being uncovered. 1106 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,000 I realised that the government were right 1107 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,840 in saying we weren't removed 1108 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,560 by the NSW Aboriginal Board, 1109 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,320 because the Act had changed. 1110 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,520 But the action didn't. 1111 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,600 The action stayed the same. 1112 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,000 And it doesn't matter which Act it come under. 1113 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,080 We were still stolen children. 1114 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:09,240 That has given me the will to keep going on 1115 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,080 and finding... a new identity. 1116 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,480 Oh, hey! 1117 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,080 -Hi! - Hello, darling! 1118 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,360 It's so nice to see you! You look amazing. 1119 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,200 -So do you. - Oh, wow! 1120 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,560 I can't believe you're here. It's so good. 1121 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,640 Hello. 1122 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,560 - How have you been? Good? - Yeah, good. 1123 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,720 {\an8}-Reconnecting again with my white family, 1124 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,960 {\an8}I think I was in a happy space. 1125 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,200 I had some sort of connection there. 1126 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,760 Well, my very first memory, 1127 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,240 so there's nothing before Brenda. 1128 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,880 {\an8}And then I couldn't say goodbye to you. 1129 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,560 {\an8}Like, I remember my mum saying, 1130 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,880 {\an8}"Rich, you've gotta say goodbye. Give Brenda a hug." 1131 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,520 {\an8}I'm like, "No." Couldn't do it. 1132 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,279 And that's you and Rebecca. 1133 01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:19,200 At some points, I could feel them 1134 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,200 wanting to get close to me, 1135 01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,080 but I would just back off. 1136 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,160 When I got back to my black family 1137 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,920 and I speak or I talk or whatever, 1138 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,520 they tell me I'm acting white. 1139 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,040 But if I was brought up with whitefellas 1140 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,399 for the first five, six, seven years... 1141 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,720 ...how else am I supposed to act? 1142 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,120 Didn't know culture, we didn't know... 1143 01:08:58,279 --> 01:08:59,920 ...how to be Aboriginal, 1144 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,640 'cause a couple of generations ago 1145 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,200 we were disconnected from that. 1146 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,560 How are you, Aunty? 1147 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,760 Good to see you! Mwah! 1148 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,000 This is your family tree here. 1149 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,200 I want you to put an asterisk 1150 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,479 next to... Maria. 1151 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,800 She's Aboriginal. 1152 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,800 {\an8}- She is the mother of Edward. BRENDA: OK. 1153 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,120 {\an8}He's Aboriginal. 1154 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,000 We always knew Dad's country was Biripi, 1155 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,560 so we had connection there. 1156 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,920 But there was another half missing, 1157 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,520 until Kim showed us 1158 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,920 where Mum's mother was from and her mother was from, 1159 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,920 which was in Walla, in Wiradjuri country. 1160 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,600 Because you get a lot of your colour from your father. 1161 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,800 Mm. 1162 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,680 Your mother's a lot lighter than you, isn't she? 1163 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,920 Mm. 1164 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,320 Very much. 1165 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,560 You throw someone like me into the mix, 1166 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:09,920 their policies worked quite well on my family. 1167 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,080 They bred the colour out of my family. 1168 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,560 They might be able to breed the outside colour out, 1169 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,240 but they'll never breed the black out. 1170 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,280 Where was the first point of contact with whitefellas 1171 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,480 for our... 1172 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,080 For our mob, 1173 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,880 all this was settled down around Melbourne way. 1174 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,600 This gets settled quite quickly, 1175 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,280 and also we get people from Adelaide 1176 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,080 coming over into these places. 1177 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,560 - We do fight back. -Mm. 1178 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,840 - We fight back hard. -Mm... 1179 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,920 The Wiradjuri had an uprising. 1180 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,680 Next thing, martial law's declared, massive war. 1181 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,480 Lots of our men were killed off, 1182 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,880 lots of women killed as well. 1183 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,920 And so many of the babies 1184 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,480 were sent to different missions 1185 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,200 that were started all around NSW. 1186 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,440 So, that's when they start taking our babies 1187 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,120 from that area. 1188 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,080 Did you know your mother was taken away 1189 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,200 and put in a home? 1190 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,440 I found those records. 1191 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,160 Not only was she in a home, 1192 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,680 so was her mother. 1193 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,160 My grannie. 1194 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,920 I feel like I'm just... 1195 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,120 ...travelling through a house with nowhere to rest, 1196 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,640 nowhere to plant my feet. 1197 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,120 I just feel like a wanderer 1198 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,520 that just keeps wandering. 1199 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,360 You're looking for answers, you're looking for belonging, 1200 01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:03,600 you're looking for healing. 1201 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,640 But where do you find that 1202 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,880 if everybody else around you is hurt too? 1203 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,680 Mark can grab the tape. 1204 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,960 Hey, we going pretty good. 1205 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,720 He said "Where youse going?" 1206 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,080 I said, "We're going down here to have a burial." 1207 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,640 - Gee whiz. 1208 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,080 I haven't heard this one. 1209 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,240 There's him thinking himself 1210 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,480 don't bother going down there all that in the rain... 1211 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,800 ♪ "Come home, come home 1212 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,000 ♪ "It's suppertime" 1213 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,200 ♪ We're going home 1214 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,080 ♪ At last 1215 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,160 ♪ Winding down 1216 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:24,160 ♪ An old familiar pathway... ♪ 1217 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,760 Dad used to always tell us that he loved us. 1218 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,040 And he loved singing. He loved singing. 1219 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,040 And a couple of times we thought we would lose him. 1220 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,080 They told us that we'd have to go down 1221 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,920 'cause he wouldn't live to see a certain day. 1222 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,200 When we got in there... 1223 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,040 ...he said, "Where you going, Brenda?" 1224 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,240 And so I said, "Oh, I'm not going anywhere, Dad. 1225 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,360 "I'm staying here with you." 1226 01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,000 And he said to me... 1227 01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,760 ..."Sing me a song." 1228 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,480 But I couldn't. 1229 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,760 The pain wouldn't allow me 1230 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,120 to feel joy and happiness. 1231 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,160 But I've realised... 1232 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,920 ...in our culture... 1233 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,800 ...that's what we did - 1234 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,680 we shared stories, we'd sing about them. 1235 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,640 And I believe that's what he was telling me, 1236 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,240 to sing him a song. 1237 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,920 And I'm doing that through story. 1238 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,280 I'm singing his song. 1239 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,920 Going back and opening the doors 1240 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,840 that were hurtful and painful 1241 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,160 has helped me to find the healing. 1242 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,640 'Cause you can't erase history. 1243 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,000 But you can acknowledge it and... 1244 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,400 ...we can find a way to move forward. 1245 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,080 Instead of focusing on the hurt and the pain, 1246 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,200 I had to focus on the love. 1247 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,080 That was still there. That never left me. 1248 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,720 I'm just reflecting my father and my mother. 1249 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,200 That's... that's all I can do. 1250 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,040 I can only do what my parents have taught us... 1251 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,240 ...black and white. 1252 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,360 Hello, Dad! 1253 01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:45,360 -Hello. - How are you? 1254 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,120 - Good. - I missed you. 1255 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,920 - Yeah. - You miss me? 1256 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,920 - Yes. - I love you. 1257 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,840 - Yeah. - Mm. 1258 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,960 You feeling alright? 1259 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,120 Yeah. 1260 01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,880 Ah. 1261 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,760 You missed me, did you? 1262 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,000 - Yeah. - Mmm. 1263 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,080 Guess where we're off to tomorrow. 1264 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,520 We're off to Sydney tomorrow. 1265 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,480 I'm taking Mum. 1266 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,640 - Can Mum come? - Yeah. 1267 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,360 - Come for a ride down Sydney? - Yeah. 1268 01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:20,760 I'm going to introduce her to Connie and Mac, 1269 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,760 the foster parents. 1270 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,920 So she's gonna meet them. 1271 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,320 Yeah. 1272 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,960 I wish you were there. 1273 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,880 I wish you could come with us. 1274 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,800 - Yeah. -Mm. 1275 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,920 Love you. 1276 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,400 Yes. 1277 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,200 Oh, feel that breeze. 1278 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,560 Oh, my goodness. 1279 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,160 What are you worried about, Mum? 1280 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,560 It's more, um... 1281 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,240 ...getting scarier and sort of frightening me and... 1282 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,320 ...because it's getting closer... 1283 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:36,960 -Yeah... - ...to them. 1284 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,600 -Yeah. - ...to meeting with me and... 1285 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:39,920 Yeah. 1286 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,320 I know I asked you to meet up with them, 1287 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,960 but why did you agree? 1288 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:46,640 Why did you say yes? 1289 01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:50,000 I'd just like to meet them. 1290 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,160 And I...I gotta prove to them that, these white people, 1291 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,120 you know, that I was, this Aboriginal lady, 1292 01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,720 was a good mother... 1293 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,920 ...and did... never neglected her children. 1294 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,760 I looked after them. 1295 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,680 That’s what I’ve got to do. 1296 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,040 I'm... I'm nervous. 1297 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,480 I'm just... Yeah, just to, um... 1298 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,840 -She has been all week. - Yeah. 1299 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,200 Thinking about it, you know? 1300 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,080 I'm just more than happy to meet her 1301 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,920 and... and talk, you know? 1302 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,760 Talk out sort of what eventuated 1303 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,360 over the years between everyone. 1304 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,360 I'll get more nervous when they knock. 1305 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,840 Hello, Brenda? 1306 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,800 - Hello. - How are you? 1307 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,200 - Good. Where are you? - We're about 10 minutes away. 1308 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,800 Oh, true? 10 minutes away. 1309 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,120 OK. Love you. 'Bye. 1310 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,600 Continue on to The Crescent, 1311 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,960 then your destination will be on the right. 1312 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:56,760 Hello, hello. 1313 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,440 - Hello. -Here she is. 1314 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,920 How are you, darling? 1315 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,800 Hey? Good. 1316 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,360 Oh, it's good to see you. 1317 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:07,440 Good to see you in these times. 1318 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,320 Really is. 1319 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,000 Yeah, hang on. Hello, darling. 1320 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,000 Good on you. 1321 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,840 Good on you. You're very brave to do this. 1322 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,680 - Hey? Yeah, there's Connie. - Yeah. 1323 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,120 How you going? 1324 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,000 Oh, look at you. 1325 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,560 Yeah, I can see you. 1326 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,240 -Yeah. -Go and sit down. 1327 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:39,760 - Sit down. -Mm. 1328 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,240 Bringing my two sets of parents together 1329 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,040 was a way of reconciling with the past 1330 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,960 so that they can tell each other 1331 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,200 the real truth, 1332 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:55,680 not what was written down and made up, 1333 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,360 but the real truth that was in their hearts. 1334 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:00,320 ...the hard part. 1335 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,320 You know, the way... 1336 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,320 ...me and my husband looked after our children, 1337 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,360 the... you know, the welfare had no right 1338 01:21:08,440 --> 01:21:10,840 saying them things to youse, you know? 1339 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,920 I just want to thank youse for taking care of her... 1340 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,320 Oh. 1341 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,080 ...and looking after her for me. 1342 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:18,840 Anytime. 1343 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,280 I can understand how you felt. 1344 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,200 That must have been terrible. 1345 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,760 - Yeah. It was terrible. - That must have been terrible. 1346 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,720 To finally meet up with her and say, you know, 1347 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,320 "It's us. We're not... bad. 1348 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,520 "We're just sorry for what's happened to you." 1349 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,080 Yeah, she's... 1350 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,880 She's an incredible lady. 1351 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,920 - Here's your little... - I know. 1352 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,840 She's accepted us now 1353 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,320 and I feel that we can... 1354 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,040 ...we can both be good parents. 1355 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,480 One, two, three. 1356 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,880 We can all just fit in together... 1357 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,680 ...as one. 1358 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,120 That's the love that we gotta share with Brenda. 1359 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,800 Black and white, share the love with Brenda. 1360 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,680 - Mwah. -Nice to meet you. 1361 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,120 -Yes. - See you, baby. 1362 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,920 - See you. -Take care. 1363 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,160 See you later. 1364 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,440 'Bye! Love you! 1365 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,880 Finally, truth is coming out 1366 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,960 that I wasn't a neglected child. 1367 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,240 And the system that told me I was 1368 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,120 doesn't have any hold on me anymore. 1369 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,360 I'm sharing truth on both sides of the story. 1370 01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:28,680 And I can share it with anyone. 1371 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,200 So for me to pass down healing 1372 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:35,920 to my children and grandchildren, 1373 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,320 I couldn't ask for anything more... 1374 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,160 ...compensation than that. 1375 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,040 The truth has set me free. 1376 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,600 And I can just walk in that freedom now. 1377 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,120 {\an8} 1378 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,240 ♪ Many years ago 1379 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,040 ♪ In days of childhood 1380 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,880 ♪ I used to play 1381 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,680 ♪ Till evening shadows come 1382 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,360 ♪ And winding down 1383 01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:20,680 ♪ That old familiar pathway 1384 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,160 ♪ I'd hear my mother call 1385 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,600 ♪ At set of sun 1386 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,440 ♪ "Come home, come home 1387 01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,040 ♪ "It's suppertime" 1388 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,160 ♪ The shadow 1389 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:46,360 ♪ Lengthens fast 1390 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,760 ♪ "Come home, come home 1391 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,360 ♪ "It's suppertime" 1392 01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,880 ♪ We're going home 1393 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,520 ♪ At last... ♪ 95718

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