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KLANSMAN:
Oh, yeah.
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All right.
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[somber orchestral music]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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PERSON:
For 2,000 years, God Almighty
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has seen fit to have
a separation of the races.
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Either you are for the white,
or you are for the Black.
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PERSON: Ladies and gentlemen,
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there is a white day coming
in the United States.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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[spirited rhythmic beat]
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JOE: Living with all
of these ghosts around me,
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the things that I have done
and the knowledge I have,
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it is life altering.
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- The white people
of this nation
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are sick and tired.
[cheers and applause]
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TERRILL: This was the Klan,
seeking to kill someone
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because of their skin color.
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PERSON: It is not malice
when we protect ourselves.
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JASON: And it wasn't 1965.
It was 2015.
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SINGER:
♪♪ The bottom of the river ♪♪
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LATONYA: The KKK wanted
to catch my son,
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cut him up in pieces
on the creek,
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and leave him there.
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JASON:
This is a modern-day lynching
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of a Black man
in the Deep South.
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- The facts of this case
are despicable.
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JOE:
I asked the question,
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"Do you want him
6 feet under?"
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GEORGE: He was a rising star
of the Klan.
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He actually became
the Grand Nighthawk.
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- He came home
with a Ku Klux Klan outfit.
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And I was like,
"Oh my God. What is this?"
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SINGER:
♪♪ Meet me at the bottom ♪♪
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GEORGE:
Tapes don't lie.
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You fear
for your safety now?
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JOE:
Yes.
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JOE: If something were
to happen to me,
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I need the world
to know the truth.
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SINGER:
♪♪ Bottom of the river ♪♪
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[fire crackling]
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[insects chirring, birdsong]
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[tense music]
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TAMEKA: There are
many different Floridas.
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Not many people
appreciate that.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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I would tell people
that I was from Florida,
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and they immediately
thought about beaches
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and palm trees, about Disney.
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But that's not the Florida
that I grew up in.
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- North Florida is
significantly more rural.
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It's more farmland.
It's old plantation.
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JASON: It's a region
that has been left behind
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by the modern economy.
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There is a lot
of agriculture jobs here,
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but the other big job in rural
communities is prisons.
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In Florida, the prison system
is the largest state employer,
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employing thousands of people.
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There are about
150 facilities,
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about 80,000 inmates,
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and even though Florida has
about a 17% Black population,
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half of inmates are Black.
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I think a place like this
that has such a long history
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of racial strife should
not be surprising to anyone
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that the largest employer
is also going to have
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members of the Klan in it.
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The members of the Klan
when they join,
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join something
called the Invisible Empire.
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[eerie music]
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They exist among us
in society,
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not in their robes and hoods,
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but in everyday street clothes
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working everyday,
regular jobs.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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Obviously, this is not
an everyday kind of story.
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In 2015,
there was a press release
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by the state of Florida.
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It said that they'd arrested
three prison guards,
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and it turned out
that the guards were members
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of the Ku Klux Klan
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plotting the murder
of a Black man, an inmate,
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once he got out of prison.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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I just started
looking into it,
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and I kind of became
obsessed with it.
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And I did a story
for the AP wire,
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which went national,
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but there were just
a lot of questions,
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a lot more questions
than answers.
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It was only after
I wrote the second article
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in my series
that I received an email,
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and my heart stopped.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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There was someone
who was in the Ku Klux Klan,
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and he came forward to me.
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The subject was,
"This is Joseph Moore."
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"Hello, I do not go
by Joseph Moore anymore,
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"but that was me.
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"There is and was
much more going on
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"in the white supremacist
circles
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than I can discuss
at this time..."
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JOE: "But I am not restricted
at this point that I know of.
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"My family and I are
under constant threat
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"from white supremacists.
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"I want to give you
information I have
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"in case something happens
to me
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"and I can no longer speak.
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Joe."
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[tape rewinding]
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[dramatic music]
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When you first
put that robe on,
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that persona that you put on
can overcome you.
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[indistinct speech]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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I was Grand Nighthawk
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of the realm
of Florida and Georgia.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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JASON: The Grand Nighthawk is
basically the Klan's
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top security officer.
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JOE: Cross burnings
are sacrosanct to the KKK
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and one of the most
closely guarded secrets.
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I, as the Grand Nighthawk,
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would be the person
that lights the fire.
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JASON: So there's a big
nighttime cross lighting
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at a farm
in rural North Florida.
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- It was very remote,
very wooded, very rural,
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and there would be no traffic.
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JASON: All of the Klan members
in the region would show up
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in a field
and light a cross on fire.
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JOE: The night
of the cross burning,
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there were approximately
40 people there.
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JASON: They were members
of a violent group of the Klan
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called the Traditionalist
American Knights
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of the Ku Klux Klan.
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They were comprised of members
who had violent felonies,
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violent crimes in their past.
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[indistinct shouting]
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JASON: The Klan tries
to present a public face
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of being kind of
a social club.
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But behind the scenes,
oftentimes,
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they're plotting violence.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- The Grand Nighthawk has been
sort of a hit man for the KKK.
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I embraced the fact
that the KKK might
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call upon me for violence.
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GEORGE: The crosses are
burning, the moon is full,
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and that night changed
everything.
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- Yes.
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[ominous music]
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After the ceremony
and the cross lighting,
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I stepped away from the crowd.
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And as I'm looking up
at the moon,
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I hear something coming my way.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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Charles Newcomb,
the Exalted Cyclops,
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which is essentially
the local leader,
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walked up to me and said,
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"Hey, Brother Joe,
we got a situation
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we wanted to, uh,
talk to you about."
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♪♪ ♪♪
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"We got Brother Driver
and Brother Moran over here.
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They want to talk
to you about something."
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David Moran was a Klansman
working his way towards
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a position directly under
Charles Newcomb,
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the Exalted Cyclops.
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Thomas Driver
was a newer Klan member,
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not even first
or second level yet.
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- The other thing
these three had in common
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was they had all worked for
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the Florida Department
of Corrections
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as prison guards.
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- Thomas driver explained
that he got into a fight
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with this inmate,
and they handed me
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a paper with
an inmate's picture on it
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and the inmate's
biographical information.
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The inmate was Warren Williams.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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I asked,
"What do you want to do?"
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Driver and Moran
looked at one another.
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I asked the question,
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"Do you want somebody
to talk to him?"
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They looked at each other,
said no.
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I said, "Do you want someone
to beat him up?"
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They looked at each other
and said no.
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Then I asked the question,
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"Do you want him
6 feet under?"
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And they said yes.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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I said "OK, you need
to put that paper away,
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"and then we need
to meet another time
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"to talk about this outside
of this environment.
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Brothers, uh, y'all enjoy
the rest of the evening."
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[eerie music]
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GEORGE: So three men
have talked to you
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about a potential murder,
but they didn't know
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something very important.
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- They don't know that I was
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undercover for the FBI.
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[suspenseful music]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- So this is the Reception
and Medical Center
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in North Florida, Lake Butler.
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And it houses
thousands of prisoners,
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as well as being the hospital
for the prison system
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in this region.
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Driver and Moran worked here
during the murder plot.
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Newcomb was a former employee,
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and all three were members
of the Klan.
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ANTWAN: Lake Butler Reception
and Medical Center
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has to be the worst prison--
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it is the worst prison
in Florida.
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Lake Butler is known to be
so bad that you can leave,
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go to another prison,
and you can tell the officer,
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"Man, I'm glad
I ain't at Lake Butler."
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Well, you know
what they tell you?
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Rednecks don't play down there.
Kill your ass, huh?
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[blues music]
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When I was there,
I knew Sergeant David Moran.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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We called him Chief.
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Back then, he had
a little size on him,
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barrel-chest dude, and inmates
feared and respected him.
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They knew--they knew Chief--
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they were like, "You know,
man, Chief'll kill you."
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JASON: In the eight years
that I've covered this region,
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there have been
a number of stories
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that had involved Klansmen
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being unmasked
law enforcement.
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ANTWAN: You not gonna surprise
no Black person
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by telling them the Klan
is working in prison,
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not Southern Black people.
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- And with the resurgence
of white supremacist groups...
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[people chanting and screaming
indistinctly]
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JASON: You have seen
an emboldened Klan.
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CHRIS: We had been receiving
a series of directives
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going back to 2006
concerning the threat
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from domestic terrorism
extremism groups.
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GREG: It's always best,
in any criminal investigation,
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to have somebody
on the inside
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because you're not only
having eyes and ears
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where yours can't be,
but in many cases,
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you're getting
real-time feedback.
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- Hence, the approach
to Joe Moore.
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[indistinct chatter]
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- Good to see you.
- Nice to meet you.
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- Nice to meet you.
Have a seat.
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So you don't go by the name
Joe Moore anymore?
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- No, we've gotten
identity changes.
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- Can I call you Joe?
- Yeah, that's fine.
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That's what most people
call me anyway.
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- Let's start out at--
at the beginning.
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[bright music]
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JOE: I was born in 1971
in Jacksonville, Florida.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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I guess I always wanted
to be in law enforcement.
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[chuckles]
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I was close to my sister,
and I was her protector.
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In high school, I ran track,
played football.
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After college, I enlisted
in the Army as a private.
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- You really did well
at the beginning.
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- I was a distinguished
honor graduate
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in my basic training class,
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making rank pretty quick,
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and was selected
to become a sniper.
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Eventually became
the sniper section leader.
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I began learning
breathing techniques,
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maintaining your composure,
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being able to get control
of what would
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otherwise cause people
to panic.
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For me,
I was serving my country.
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I was fulfilling who I was.
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[soft dramatic music]
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- But after that,
you ran into some challenges.
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- Yes.
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I received
an honorable discharge,
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and I was already
receiving treatment
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when I left the Army,
for depression,
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and within a year
of being discharged,
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I was diagnosed
with bipolar disorder.
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GEORGE: How do you manage it?
JOE: You see multiple doctors.
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And of course, you get
onto a medication protocol.
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And when I'm feeling manic,
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I imagine
I'm wearing a heavy suit.
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And then when I'm depressed,
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I imagine zipping out
of that heavy suit,
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as well as
constantly practicing
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my breathing techniques
that I've learned as a sniper.
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LATONYA: When you have kids,
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you want the best for 'em
in all situations.
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[laughs]
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But he just didn't go
the route
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that I would have had him go.
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I'm Latonya Crowley.
I'm Warren William's mother.
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JASON: Warren Williams
is a young man who grew up
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in the Central North Florida
town of Palatka,
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which is
on the St. John's River.
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He lived with his mother
and three younger sisters,
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protective older brother.
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LATONYA:
He had a great spirit,
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and he liked outdoors,
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always, you know,
hands on with dirt,
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flowers, stuff like that.
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He get it from his granddaddy.
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JASON: He spends time
quietly fishing
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in St. John's River.
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- He's not a people person.
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He never have been,
never have.
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- Warren suffered from
some pretty severe
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mental illness diagnoses
throughout his life.
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LATONYA: Warren has
some mental issues,
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and they kind of arose
when he was in high school.
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And that's when I start
noticing the little changes.
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He didn't see it,
but I seen it,
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you know, with bipolar.
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They put him on medication.
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He'll take it for a while,
and then he'll stop
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because he feel like
he's not himself.
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- Sometimes, he would have
one of these episodes,
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and his mother
or other people he was with
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would, you know,
have to call the police
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because they couldn't
deal with him.
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LATONYA: Because he's not
taking his medicine,
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he had taken a baseball bat
to my car.
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Because I know
he wasn't in his right mind,
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I had to call the police.
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[soft dramatic music]
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You know, he needed help.
He just needed help.
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[faint police sirens blaring]
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The police came to the house.
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And Warren was, you know,
sitting on the porch.
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You know, and I told them,
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"Don't try to attack him."
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JASON: The police came when he
was having a mental breakdown,
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and he became violent.
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Warren hit one
of the police officers,
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which would send him in
to that prison.
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[gun shots]
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JOE: There are bad things
that happen daily,
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and you certainly can't
build fences around life.
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My identity and how
I was formed as a person
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were the result
of some criminal things
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that were done to me
as a child.
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When I was eight years old,
I was victimized by two men
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over a period of
approximately three months.
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JASON: First time I met Joe,
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he brought up
his childhood abuse.
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It's clearly something
that is not only traumatizing,
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but that he's turned into
a major life-motivating force.
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JOE: Instead of deciding
to become a victim
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of those tragedies,
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I decided to be the person
that would speak out
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against things
that were wrong.
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I was giving classes
at a local shooting range
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to active duty
military personnel,
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police personnel.
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[indistinct chatter]
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While I was conducting
a class, I guess,
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a member of the Joint Terrorism
Task Force noticed me,
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and I received
a phone call after that.
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- He--he fit the bill.
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And by that, I mean he had
certain qualifications.
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- Like what?
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CHRIS: Well, he had
a military background.
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Physically,
he sort of fit the bill.
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I mean, he's a white male.
He was from--from that area.
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He could walk the walk.
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JOE: When I was growing up,
I lived in a very swampy,
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rural part of town,
and where I lived at,
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those people
flew Confederate flags,
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those people used the N-word.
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- The FBI asked you
to go undercover.
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What was your mission?
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JOE: My mission was
go inside the KKK
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to identify people
that are involved
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and to forewarn the FBI
of any illegal activities.
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[gun shots]
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- Was there a threat in
northern Florida at the time?
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- Yes, clearly.
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[eerie music]
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GEORGE: KKK?
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CHRIS: The KKK has--
has the history,
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the image, so to speak.
- We do not...
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CHRIS: They're capable
and dangerous.
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GREG: Florida has been
a bastion of the Klan.
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I usually call the KKK
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the granddaddy of white
supremacy movements
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because you can see the roots
if you study the history.
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TAMEKA: The Klan was founded
after the end
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of the United States Civil War
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by whites who were determined
to maintain their supremacy.
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In 1921, it was estimated
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that there were approximately
100,000 Klan members
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across the United States.
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A full one-third of them
were believed
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to have been
in the state of Florida.
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African Americans
living in the state of Florida
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have the highest likelihood
of being lynched
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of any people
in the United States.
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During
the Civil Rights Movement,
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you're going to see
a lot of these Klan members
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be active in confrontations
of civil rights demonstrators.
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You see that very vividly
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in Saint Augustine, Florida,
in 1964.
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JASON: Local leaders,
officials, sheriffs
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were openly members
of the Ku Klux Klan
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who ran these towns
100 or less years ago.
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So it's still a very active
part of the culture
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and history of this region.
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GEORGE:
And to do your job well,
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you have to make them believe
you're one of them.
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How do you even start though?
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- So this wasn't my first time
undercover for the FBI.
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Back in 2007,
I spent about four years
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undercover for the FBI
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in a different
Klan organization.
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- Joe walks into the FBI office
in Gainesville, Florida
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to report what he thought
was a crooked cop.
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The FBI agent saw
Joe's military background,
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saw something in him
and thought,
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"Here's someone we could
recruit to help us out."
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- Initially, I wasn't surprised
that they contacted me,
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but I was--
I was honored.
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I realized that I had
a second chance
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to serve my country again.
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I had the opportunity
to help someone else,
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just as I wished somebody
was there to help me
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when tragedy happened to me
as a child.
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GEORGE: But something
went wrong there.
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They believed
your cover had been blown?
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- The problem
was my family issues.
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- Joe was under
a lot of pressure
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and stress from his wife.
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JASON: There was some secret.
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Sooner or later,
he came clean,
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and when the FBI discovered
that he told his wife,
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they severed the relationship
immediately.
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- So he broke the rules?
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CHRIS: He broke a rule,
he broke a rule,
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and a decision
was made to sever ties.
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GEORGE: So if a guy
breaks the rules once,
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why bring him back?
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CHRIS: Because it was,
in a sense,
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almost understandable.
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JASON:
This time, they were able
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to strike up a new deal
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where his wife would know
from the beginning.
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CHRIS: You also consider
the need to bring somebody in
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who already has
that experience.
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The decision to reopen him,
so to speak,
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was really an easy decision.
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[people shouting
and chanting indistinctly]
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JASON: In 2013, there were
more than 100 Klan groups
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operating
in the United States.
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CHRIS: Really,
the first year or so was,
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be on the lookout,
gather intelligence,
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evaluate the threat.
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- I was learning how to be
a part of that organization
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and getting close to them.
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This is the application
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to the Traditionalist American
Knights of the KKK.
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And it simply asks,
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"Do you support
white supremacism?"
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They want people
that have skills.
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They want people
from the military.
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The KKK has a formal structure
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similar to a military unit.
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The KKK has
what is essentially
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a commander-in-chief
in the Imperial Wizard.
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The governors of the regions
would be the Grand Dragons,
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and the Grand Nighthawk
would be that state
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or that region's leader
of the National Guard.
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They use acronyms
in order to ensure
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that impostors
were not infiltrating
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the meeting or the Klan.
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They would use terms like
AYAK, are you a Klansman?
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And the proper response,
if you are a Klansman,
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is AKIA, A-K-I-A,
a Klansman, I am.
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If you don't respond
with AKIA,
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they know
you're not a Klansman.
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- They also have a blood oath.
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- Yes, they do.
When you sign the blood oath,
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they tell you
that if you violate
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or disclose secrets of the KKK,
you'll pay with your blood.
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[tense music]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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GEORGE: What does it mean
to be operational for the FBI?
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JOE: I was constantly
in contact with the Klan,
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nearly on an hourly basis,
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transferring information,
attending meetings.
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I perhaps, would be
having dinner or lunch
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with my family,
or at church or something,
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and we'd get a phone call,
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and I knew
it was a Klan member.
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- The KKK,
who did they think you were?
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- Someone far more qualified
than myself.
503
00:25:28,556 --> 00:25:30,694
GEORGE: A warrior?
JOE: Yes.
504
00:25:30,761 --> 00:25:32,631
[exhales deeply]
505
00:25:32,698 --> 00:25:36,238
My Zodiac sign is Gemini.
506
00:25:36,304 --> 00:25:37,941
Being the twins,
507
00:25:38,008 --> 00:25:40,847
there were two aspects
of myself,
508
00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:46,057
one undercover,
and one who I really was.
509
00:25:46,124 --> 00:25:48,495
- They were really interested
in his military background
510
00:25:48,562 --> 00:25:50,633
and training as a sniper.
511
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:55,309
He took on a character
that inflated his credentials
512
00:25:55,376 --> 00:25:57,915
even further
than what they already were.
513
00:25:57,981 --> 00:26:00,485
CHRIS:
He took military experience
514
00:26:00,553 --> 00:26:04,895
and made it sound
almost sexy to them.
515
00:26:04,962 --> 00:26:07,767
So he talked about
being a sniper,
516
00:26:07,834 --> 00:26:11,074
alluding to killing people
in Delta Force,
517
00:26:11,141 --> 00:26:14,080
which they clearly
were attracted to.
518
00:26:14,147 --> 00:26:16,752
- I was able
to rise through the ranks
519
00:26:16,819 --> 00:26:20,192
to the point that they made me
a Nighthawk and, eventually,
520
00:26:20,259 --> 00:26:22,831
the Grand Nighthawk.
521
00:26:22,897 --> 00:26:28,543
- It's clear from his ascent
that he impressed them.
522
00:26:28,609 --> 00:26:30,647
They trusted him.
523
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,951
He displayed
admirable patience
524
00:26:33,018 --> 00:26:34,755
throughout that process,
525
00:26:34,821 --> 00:26:39,463
which easier said than done,
526
00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:41,367
particularly in a situation
like that
527
00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:44,875
that's potentially
very dangerous.
528
00:26:44,942 --> 00:26:47,647
[Klansmen chanting]
529
00:26:52,456 --> 00:26:55,495
- So in his first year,
Joe was leaking intelligence
530
00:26:55,563 --> 00:26:56,933
to the FBI here and there,
531
00:26:56,999 --> 00:26:59,971
but there were no major plans
he's disrupting.
532
00:27:00,038 --> 00:27:02,777
But that would all change.
533
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:08,722
It was the height of
534
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:11,529
North Florida
deep South summer,
535
00:27:11,596 --> 00:27:14,868
which anybody knows
is one of the most humid,
536
00:27:14,935 --> 00:27:17,206
sticky, hot places.
537
00:27:17,273 --> 00:27:19,912
Many of the rooms
inside the RMC
538
00:27:19,979 --> 00:27:21,248
are not air conditioned.
539
00:27:21,314 --> 00:27:23,653
It makes conditions
even more tense
540
00:27:23,719 --> 00:27:25,924
between the inmates
and the guards.
541
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:28,930
Thomas Driver
worked in the dorm area
542
00:27:28,997 --> 00:27:31,869
where Warren Williams
was an inmate.
543
00:27:31,936 --> 00:27:34,508
They crossed paths
at numerous times.
544
00:27:34,574 --> 00:27:38,314
But one day, Thomas Driver
had brought Warren
545
00:27:38,381 --> 00:27:42,791
into a room inside the prison
to reprimand Warren
546
00:27:42,858 --> 00:27:46,097
for losing his ID badge.
547
00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:49,003
Driver just smoking
a cigarette,
548
00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:52,176
started blowing smoke
at Warren's face.
549
00:27:52,243 --> 00:27:54,582
LATONYA: And he said
he asked him to stop,
550
00:27:54,648 --> 00:27:55,650
and he wouldn't.
551
00:27:55,717 --> 00:27:57,253
You know, he kept saying,
you know,
552
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,190
"Get out my face
with the cigarette smoke."
553
00:27:59,257 --> 00:28:03,298
You know, "Get out of my face.
Get out my face."
554
00:28:03,365 --> 00:28:06,437
ANTWAN: They would do things,
outrageous things,
555
00:28:06,505 --> 00:28:07,874
that push you in a corner,
556
00:28:07,941 --> 00:28:10,913
just things
that just not necessary.
557
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:12,383
JASON:
Warren asked him to stop.
558
00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:14,086
Driver refused to stop,
559
00:28:14,153 --> 00:28:16,592
and it was at that point
that Warren jumped on him,
560
00:28:16,658 --> 00:28:18,930
and the fight started.
561
00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:21,301
LATONYA: Warren and Driver
was fighting,
562
00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,037
wrestling, you know,
on the floor or whatever,
563
00:28:23,104 --> 00:28:27,379
and the other COs came in.
They beating him.
564
00:28:27,446 --> 00:28:33,058
♪♪ ♪♪
565
00:28:33,125 --> 00:28:36,999
They beaten him so bad,
they took him to the hospital.
566
00:28:39,572 --> 00:28:42,109
JASON: Williams had gotten
the better of Driver
567
00:28:42,176 --> 00:28:44,213
in the fight,
and during the fight,
568
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,321
had also bit Driver
and broken the skin,
569
00:28:48,388 --> 00:28:50,894
and Driver had required
a series of tests
570
00:28:50,961 --> 00:28:52,864
to make sure
that he didn't have some
571
00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:57,072
serious communicable diseases,
hep C or HIV,
572
00:28:57,139 --> 00:29:00,914
and because of the worry
over whether or not
573
00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:02,817
he'd picked up
one of these diseases,
574
00:29:02,884 --> 00:29:05,488
he said it
had caused his family
575
00:29:05,556 --> 00:29:07,994
immeasurable stress
and that he just
576
00:29:08,061 --> 00:29:10,933
wanted this guy assassinated.
577
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,271
♪♪ ♪♪
578
00:29:13,337 --> 00:29:15,342
So Warren was released
from prison
579
00:29:15,408 --> 00:29:18,315
right around Christmas time
and returned back
580
00:29:18,382 --> 00:29:20,753
to his mother's small home
in Palatka.
581
00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:22,456
[soft dramatic music]
582
00:29:22,524 --> 00:29:27,066
He began working
a landscaping job,
583
00:29:27,133 --> 00:29:29,838
trying to stay out of trouble.
584
00:29:29,905 --> 00:29:31,241
He was on probation,
585
00:29:31,308 --> 00:29:34,447
so he's going to
regular probation meetings,
586
00:29:34,515 --> 00:29:36,217
fishing when he can,
587
00:29:36,284 --> 00:29:40,259
just trying to get his life
back to a peaceful state,
588
00:29:40,325 --> 00:29:43,298
but at the same time,
the Ku Klux Klan
589
00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:47,105
is plotting to snatch him up
and murder him.
590
00:29:48,843 --> 00:29:50,412
JOE: I ask the question,
591
00:29:50,479 --> 00:29:52,383
"Do you want him
6 feet under?"
592
00:29:52,449 --> 00:29:54,788
And they said yes.
593
00:29:54,855 --> 00:29:56,926
I said, "OK, brothers,
594
00:29:56,993 --> 00:29:58,997
y'all enjoy the rest
of the evening."
595
00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:01,301
Get in my vehicle,
596
00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:03,806
just running the night
over in my head
597
00:30:03,873 --> 00:30:05,876
over and over and over.
598
00:30:05,943 --> 00:30:08,014
When I got
safely down the road,
599
00:30:08,081 --> 00:30:10,887
I immediately called the FBI
to tell them
600
00:30:10,953 --> 00:30:13,559
that these guys
were prepared to murder.
601
00:30:22,844 --> 00:30:25,415
CHRIS: So December 6...
602
00:30:25,482 --> 00:30:28,756
everything about that
meeting...
603
00:30:28,823 --> 00:30:31,328
was chilling.
604
00:30:31,394 --> 00:30:34,901
It's not illegal to engage
in hateful speech.
605
00:30:34,968 --> 00:30:38,308
What is illegal is to go
from hateful speech
606
00:30:38,375 --> 00:30:42,817
into the planning
of a criminal act,
607
00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:44,688
a violent act.
608
00:30:44,755 --> 00:30:47,861
- And once he hears some talk
about murder,
609
00:30:47,927 --> 00:30:50,265
that's when you need him
to wear a wire?
610
00:30:50,331 --> 00:30:51,500
- Yes.
611
00:30:58,783 --> 00:31:01,989
They've had this conversation
in December.
612
00:31:02,056 --> 00:31:05,395
Now he has to go back,
wearing a wire this time,
613
00:31:05,462 --> 00:31:09,436
and recreate important
parts of that conversation.
614
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:20,593
PAUL: It's invaluable
to have those recordings
615
00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:24,668
to validate and corroborate
exactly what the informant
616
00:31:24,734 --> 00:31:27,472
is telling us so that we know
precisely the words used.
617
00:31:42,737 --> 00:31:44,841
PAUL: There are many hours
and many meetings.
618
00:31:44,908 --> 00:31:48,582
Countless hours of him
spending time talking with them
619
00:31:48,649 --> 00:31:50,886
so we could try
to keep a good pulse
620
00:31:50,953 --> 00:31:52,623
of what were they thinking.
621
00:32:06,852 --> 00:32:08,756
CHRIS: If you've ever
had a cotton ball
622
00:32:08,822 --> 00:32:12,095
and you try to pull it apart,
if you pull too hard,
623
00:32:12,162 --> 00:32:13,533
it won't come apart.
624
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,037
If you pull easily,
it comes apart.
625
00:32:16,104 --> 00:32:20,613
That's what Joe Moore was able
to do with this organization.
626
00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:31,267
CHRIS:
He never pushed too hard.
627
00:32:31,334 --> 00:32:35,676
He would inquire, listen,
go along with things.
628
00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:47,099
- It was obvious that
they did harbor
629
00:32:47,165 --> 00:32:48,735
racial animosity
toward the victim.
630
00:32:55,248 --> 00:32:56,484
- And the other thing
that was apparent to me
631
00:32:56,552 --> 00:33:00,458
was there was absolute intent
to see this carried out.
632
00:33:16,525 --> 00:33:18,361
PAUL: He's obviously
interacting with
633
00:33:18,428 --> 00:33:20,566
and around people
that have expressed
634
00:33:20,633 --> 00:33:22,235
a clear intent
to commit murder.
635
00:33:22,302 --> 00:33:24,006
If it came out
that Joe was cooperating
636
00:33:24,073 --> 00:33:26,511
and working with the FBI,
we feared his--
637
00:33:26,578 --> 00:33:30,385
his life could very well
be in danger.
638
00:33:30,452 --> 00:33:33,559
- Joe was in danger.
He also had a wife and kids.
639
00:33:33,625 --> 00:33:35,162
- He did.
640
00:33:35,228 --> 00:33:37,499
With sources,
it's a constant challenge
641
00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:40,606
and a struggle, particularly
if they have family,
642
00:33:40,673 --> 00:33:43,044
if they're trying
to lead a normal life.
643
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:47,520
To have that going on
on the side is--it's tough.
644
00:33:48,455 --> 00:33:50,325
- Make sure they're
all the way over here, love.
645
00:33:50,392 --> 00:33:51,695
[indistinct chatter]
646
00:33:51,762 --> 00:33:53,097
GEORGE: When you're in it,
how do you go
647
00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:55,068
from a cross burning
at night to having breakfast
648
00:33:55,135 --> 00:33:56,705
with your kids
the next morning?
649
00:33:56,772 --> 00:33:57,707
JOE: It's difficult.
650
00:33:57,774 --> 00:33:59,176
With whatever operation
651
00:33:59,243 --> 00:34:00,746
you're conducting
with the FBI,
652
00:34:00,813 --> 00:34:02,683
you still have family life
to deal with.
653
00:34:04,353 --> 00:34:06,057
ZOE: Lord, thank you
for watching over us.
654
00:34:06,123 --> 00:34:08,395
I thank you
for our many blessings.
655
00:34:08,461 --> 00:34:11,801
You know, I always say
everything is for a reason.
656
00:34:11,868 --> 00:34:16,110
And we weren't together
six months when we got engaged.
657
00:34:16,177 --> 00:34:17,479
About six months.
658
00:34:17,547 --> 00:34:19,016
- And we've been together
15 years.
659
00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:20,887
- Yeah, yeah.
660
00:34:20,954 --> 00:34:22,757
[upbeat rock music]
661
00:34:22,824 --> 00:34:24,694
♪♪ ♪♪
662
00:34:24,761 --> 00:34:27,466
JOE: I have four children
in total,
663
00:34:27,534 --> 00:34:30,305
one from a previous marriage.
664
00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:32,209
ZOE: Joe just told me
that there was a man
665
00:34:32,276 --> 00:34:33,712
that they was wanting to kill
666
00:34:33,779 --> 00:34:36,117
and that this was gonna be
some dangerous waters.
667
00:34:36,183 --> 00:34:39,691
He didn't even know what he
was going to be stepping into,
668
00:34:39,758 --> 00:34:41,160
so I was always worried.
669
00:34:41,227 --> 00:34:44,868
- Good job, bud.
Yeah.
670
00:34:44,934 --> 00:34:48,775
I would wonder about
what would happen to my family
671
00:34:48,842 --> 00:34:52,215
if I was discovered
all the time,
672
00:34:52,282 --> 00:34:56,090
every day, every second
673
00:34:56,157 --> 00:34:59,296
of being operational.
674
00:34:59,363 --> 00:35:01,300
- The burden
that it put on me--
675
00:35:01,367 --> 00:35:04,808
and it wasn't just me.
It's our children.
676
00:35:04,874 --> 00:35:08,047
We were worried.
677
00:35:08,114 --> 00:35:09,951
Is he gonna be safe?
678
00:35:10,018 --> 00:35:12,990
Are we gonna be safe?
679
00:35:13,057 --> 00:35:15,930
[soft dramatic music]
680
00:35:15,997 --> 00:35:17,465
JOE: After the holidays,
681
00:35:17,533 --> 00:35:19,202
I got a call
from Charles Newcomb
682
00:35:19,269 --> 00:35:22,910
that he wanted to go
on a reconnaissance.
683
00:35:31,662 --> 00:35:33,765
JOE: It is Charles Newcomb
who, in fact,
684
00:35:33,832 --> 00:35:37,172
did take charge
of the overall operation
685
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,675
and was essentially
the puppet master
686
00:35:38,742 --> 00:35:40,512
of all the pieces
that were moving.
687
00:35:46,223 --> 00:35:49,664
I was told
by Charles Newcomb
688
00:35:49,731 --> 00:35:53,138
that we were going to surveil
his location
689
00:35:53,204 --> 00:35:58,214
in order to further identify
the plan to murder him.
690
00:36:06,397 --> 00:36:10,740
And I asked him
if Brother David Moran
691
00:36:10,807 --> 00:36:12,375
would be attending.
He said yes.
692
00:36:12,442 --> 00:36:13,645
And I said,
"What about Brother Driver?"
693
00:36:21,662 --> 00:36:25,402
JOE: He said, "Brother Driver
will be working that day."
694
00:36:25,468 --> 00:36:26,905
In the back of my head,
I'm thinking,
695
00:36:26,972 --> 00:36:28,542
"You're making sure
he is working on the day
696
00:36:28,609 --> 00:36:31,213
we're just
doing reconnaissance."
697
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,985
So there's a little red flag
that popped up for me there.
698
00:36:42,235 --> 00:36:43,672
The morning I left my home,
699
00:36:43,739 --> 00:36:46,644
I had to secretly meet
with the FBI.
700
00:36:48,649 --> 00:36:50,151
JASON:
They had outfitted Joe's truck
701
00:36:50,218 --> 00:36:52,222
with numerous microphones.
702
00:36:52,289 --> 00:36:55,394
And Joe, of course, had
a recording device as well.
703
00:37:02,877 --> 00:37:04,480
GEORGE: What would
have happened to Joe
704
00:37:04,548 --> 00:37:06,450
had they discovered the wire?
705
00:37:06,518 --> 00:37:09,423
- On the surface,
you would think they would
706
00:37:09,490 --> 00:37:12,997
probably react emotionally,
violently.
707
00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:15,401
- Would they have killed him?
- I think so.
708
00:37:25,889 --> 00:37:28,729
I showed up
at Charles Newcomb's home.
709
00:37:28,795 --> 00:37:32,904
And I'm thinking, "OK,
I have to hope for the best,
710
00:37:32,971 --> 00:37:35,876
but I have to expect
the worst."
711
00:37:35,943 --> 00:37:39,149
JASON: The general plan
was to case the area
712
00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:43,693
and get intelligence
for a future drive.
713
00:37:43,759 --> 00:37:47,566
What he'd find out is
that Newcomb had other plans.
714
00:37:55,214 --> 00:37:57,419
JASON: Injecting someone
who's not diabetic
715
00:37:57,485 --> 00:37:59,489
with too much insulin
poisons them.
716
00:37:59,557 --> 00:38:01,661
It kills them.
717
00:38:12,917 --> 00:38:15,789
- They were gonna take him out
on the spot using those drugs.
718
00:38:15,856 --> 00:38:18,695
- They also had thought ahead
719
00:38:18,762 --> 00:38:20,666
how to get rid
of all the evidence.
720
00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:21,668
JOE: Yes.
721
00:38:31,353 --> 00:38:33,826
- So the fishing pole
that day that they introduced
722
00:38:33,893 --> 00:38:36,665
was really to set the scene
to make it look like
723
00:38:36,732 --> 00:38:39,102
it was a normal day,
the victim was out fishing,
724
00:38:39,169 --> 00:38:42,275
and then he had had
a medical condition collapse,
725
00:38:42,342 --> 00:38:43,612
and he was face down
in the water.
726
00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:09,430
- So he puts the fishing gear
in the back of my SUV,
727
00:39:09,496 --> 00:39:13,070
where some of
the FBI equipment is.
728
00:39:13,137 --> 00:39:16,544
And I'm thinking...
- Don't open that.
729
00:39:18,615 --> 00:39:20,418
JOE: David Moran showed up,
730
00:39:20,484 --> 00:39:23,792
and there was
an exchange of firearms.
731
00:39:33,177 --> 00:39:35,582
I was not able
to inform the FBI
732
00:39:35,649 --> 00:39:40,826
of the intent of these guys
to kill Mr. Williams.
733
00:39:40,893 --> 00:39:44,466
- It's easy to watch TV
and believe the FBI is--
734
00:39:44,534 --> 00:39:46,505
is everywhere
and that they're--
735
00:39:46,572 --> 00:39:48,074
that they're in vans
down the street.
736
00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:51,314
The reality is
the idea that we can
737
00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:55,623
have an immediate response--
it's just not feasible.
738
00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:59,564
Joe Moore was out there
operating on his skills,
739
00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:02,703
on his instincts,
on his ability to react.
740
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,352
- They're talking through
how they might even
741
00:40:27,419 --> 00:40:29,222
alternatively dispose
of the body.
742
00:40:37,506 --> 00:40:39,109
JOE: The closer we got
to Palatka,
743
00:40:39,175 --> 00:40:41,614
it's like these guys just--
744
00:40:41,681 --> 00:40:45,087
Moran got more excited.
Newcomb got more serious.
745
00:41:04,326 --> 00:41:06,097
JOE: When we pulled
into Warren's neighborhood,
746
00:41:06,163 --> 00:41:10,071
there were people
walking on the sidewalks,
747
00:41:10,138 --> 00:41:12,543
sitting outside
their front doors.
748
00:41:31,982 --> 00:41:36,457
- Almost immediately,
as we turn on to the road
749
00:41:36,524 --> 00:41:41,366
where Warren Williams lived,
there was an obvious presence
750
00:41:41,433 --> 00:41:44,273
of law enforcement.
751
00:41:44,339 --> 00:41:46,110
CHRIS: Enough
law enforcement presence
752
00:41:46,176 --> 00:41:49,383
was arranged
in that area, visible,
753
00:41:49,449 --> 00:41:52,155
to dissuade them from doing
754
00:41:52,221 --> 00:41:55,027
anything rash and sudden.
755
00:41:56,196 --> 00:41:57,867
JOE: They told me
law enforcement would
756
00:41:57,933 --> 00:42:02,844
be in the area, but I had no
idea what the plan was.
757
00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:05,583
- Now, there's much that
goes on in the background
758
00:42:05,649 --> 00:42:08,187
that we don't necessarily
tell the informant.
759
00:42:10,959 --> 00:42:13,598
JOE: An unmarked vehicle
showed up immediately
760
00:42:13,665 --> 00:42:17,171
and pulled right in behind us.
761
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,858
I saw the expression
on Newcomb's face.
762
00:42:26,925 --> 00:42:28,628
He was ready
to jump into battle,
763
00:42:28,695 --> 00:42:31,635
and I'd be right
in the middle of it.
764
00:42:31,701 --> 00:42:33,404
- You're thinking he could
pull the gun out at any moment?
765
00:42:33,471 --> 00:42:35,241
- Absolutely.
766
00:42:36,110 --> 00:42:38,114
CHRIS: While we're in control
of parts of it there,
767
00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:41,822
we can't control Newcomb
and Moran's reaction.
768
00:42:41,888 --> 00:42:46,163
And it does pose danger
to Joe Moore.
769
00:42:52,175 --> 00:42:55,147
- I kept driving.
I kept my mouth shut.
770
00:42:55,214 --> 00:42:57,987
I turned left,
771
00:42:58,053 --> 00:43:01,093
and that vehicle
stayed right behind us.
772
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,065
Moran kept turning around,
watching them.
773
00:43:09,877 --> 00:43:12,015
JOE: We went around
the block twice,
774
00:43:12,081 --> 00:43:17,058
and that patrol vehicle stayed
behind us the whole time.
775
00:43:17,125 --> 00:43:20,932
Newcomb let out
a breath of exasperation,
776
00:43:20,999 --> 00:43:24,840
as if he was getting
even more pissed.
777
00:43:28,181 --> 00:43:30,018
JOE: It was like I almost
had to have three eyes,
778
00:43:30,085 --> 00:43:33,224
one on Newcomb,
one on the road,
779
00:43:33,290 --> 00:43:35,060
and one on Moran.
780
00:43:46,885 --> 00:43:50,659
I was thinking to myself,
get myself under control,
781
00:43:50,726 --> 00:43:53,798
breathe, focus, observe.
782
00:43:57,773 --> 00:44:00,111
- I put my hand on my sidearm.
783
00:44:00,178 --> 00:44:03,150
I turned right
onto the highway
784
00:44:03,217 --> 00:44:06,256
and drove out,
785
00:44:06,323 --> 00:44:10,164
and that vehicle pulled over
and did a U-turn.
786
00:44:14,974 --> 00:44:19,249
I thought to myself,
"Thank God."
787
00:44:22,823 --> 00:44:25,327
However, Newcomb
was very suspicious.
788
00:44:54,252 --> 00:44:58,360
- What they were planning to do
became more and more
789
00:44:58,427 --> 00:45:00,131
shocking and disturbing.
790
00:45:00,197 --> 00:45:03,370
It was clear
they wanted him killed.
791
00:45:18,034 --> 00:45:19,971
PAUL: And so what we
needed to do was come up
792
00:45:20,037 --> 00:45:23,377
with an alternative
so that it prevented them
793
00:45:23,444 --> 00:45:26,116
from taking
independent action,
794
00:45:26,182 --> 00:45:29,255
and we can ensure the victim
was safe at all times.
795
00:45:32,863 --> 00:45:36,504
LATONYA: Warren did, I think,
almost a year in prison.
796
00:45:36,571 --> 00:45:38,542
And you know,
when he came home,
797
00:45:38,609 --> 00:45:40,011
he told me, he said,
798
00:45:40,078 --> 00:45:42,817
"Mama, ain't nobody
gonna ever hear my story."
799
00:45:42,884 --> 00:45:45,054
I was like, "OK.
800
00:45:45,121 --> 00:45:48,460
Well, sit down
and tell me your story."
801
00:45:48,528 --> 00:45:50,431
[soft dramatic music]
802
00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:52,603
♪♪ ♪♪
803
00:45:52,669 --> 00:45:57,412
WARREN: I believe it was about
three months into my sentence
804
00:45:57,478 --> 00:46:00,986
that I got into
the incident with him.
805
00:46:01,053 --> 00:46:03,925
Some type of feeling
overcame me,
806
00:46:03,992 --> 00:46:07,131
and I took it out on him.
807
00:46:07,198 --> 00:46:09,502
After what I did to him,
808
00:46:09,570 --> 00:46:11,406
he told me
to get on the floor,
809
00:46:11,473 --> 00:46:16,784
and another officer demanded
that he whoop my ass.
810
00:46:16,851 --> 00:46:21,493
Broke my finger,
hit me in the mouth,
811
00:46:21,561 --> 00:46:24,166
hit me in the eye,
812
00:46:24,232 --> 00:46:27,105
and I think he Maced me, too,
in the same eye.
813
00:46:27,171 --> 00:46:28,975
And I was feeling like,
you know,
814
00:46:29,042 --> 00:46:31,914
he might as well
just go ahead and kill me.
815
00:46:31,981 --> 00:46:38,393
♪♪ ♪♪
816
00:46:38,460 --> 00:46:40,966
LATONYA: Warren had went
to probation one day,
817
00:46:41,033 --> 00:46:43,705
and, you know,
he was doing fine.
818
00:46:43,772 --> 00:46:48,247
So he went, and later,
819
00:46:48,314 --> 00:46:51,053
driving with a friend of mine,
820
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,794
and we was at a red light.
821
00:46:54,861 --> 00:46:57,164
♪♪ ♪♪
822
00:46:58,668 --> 00:47:02,075
And this--this van,
823
00:47:02,141 --> 00:47:04,313
you know, waving me down.
824
00:47:04,379 --> 00:47:08,888
The man presented himself.
You know, "We FBI,
825
00:47:08,955 --> 00:47:11,226
And I can't tell you
anything else."
826
00:47:11,293 --> 00:47:14,667
I said, "Well, you don't
have to tell me anything else
827
00:47:14,734 --> 00:47:16,938
because I already know."
828
00:47:17,005 --> 00:47:19,242
I said, "Somebody done
put a hit out on Warren."
829
00:47:19,308 --> 00:47:21,446
PAUL: She spontaneously
just mentioned
830
00:47:21,514 --> 00:47:23,584
that it was those
correctional officers
831
00:47:23,651 --> 00:47:25,989
that had the confrontation
With her son,
832
00:47:26,056 --> 00:47:27,893
and they hadn't gotten
over that.
833
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,532
We didn't confirm
who was behind it,
834
00:47:30,598 --> 00:47:33,204
but she assumed accurately.
835
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:35,140
LATONYA: So, you know,
we turned around
836
00:47:35,207 --> 00:47:36,644
and went back to the house.
837
00:47:36,711 --> 00:47:38,480
They said they needed
to get some pictures
838
00:47:38,548 --> 00:47:42,454
that seemed like
that somebody did kill him.
839
00:47:42,522 --> 00:47:44,359
WARREN: You know,
they was telling me
840
00:47:44,426 --> 00:47:48,300
that I have an option
to go with them
841
00:47:48,367 --> 00:47:52,442
because someone was after me.
842
00:47:52,510 --> 00:47:54,212
CHRIS: We need to make sure
you're protected,
843
00:47:54,279 --> 00:47:56,918
and, hey, we need
to stage this murder.
844
00:47:56,984 --> 00:47:58,922
[clock ticking]
845
00:47:58,988 --> 00:48:00,759
Williams was positioned
on the floor
846
00:48:00,826 --> 00:48:03,397
with what appeared to be
gunshot wounds to his chest,
847
00:48:03,464 --> 00:48:06,670
which had been discussed
with Driver.
848
00:48:11,781 --> 00:48:13,184
LATONYA: So you know, they--
849
00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:15,555
they knocked some stuff around
on the floor.
850
00:48:15,622 --> 00:48:20,933
- They poured water on me
like I peed my pants,
851
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,772
and they took a couple photos.
852
00:48:23,838 --> 00:48:25,575
[camera clicking]
853
00:48:29,583 --> 00:48:33,057
And after, we were to leave
and go to a hotel
854
00:48:33,124 --> 00:48:37,566
until the situation
was under wraps.
855
00:48:37,633 --> 00:48:40,773
TERRILL: He had been required
to stage his own death
856
00:48:40,839 --> 00:48:42,977
and was whisked away.
857
00:48:43,043 --> 00:48:47,553
It's--it's just something
that's unimaginable.
858
00:48:47,619 --> 00:48:49,723
[camera clicking]
859
00:49:00,177 --> 00:49:01,948
LATONYA:
When they took Warren,
860
00:49:02,015 --> 00:49:05,655
they didn't tell me
where they was taking him.
861
00:49:07,959 --> 00:49:10,666
It just something
that needed to happen.
862
00:49:10,733 --> 00:49:13,538
[bluesy music]
863
00:49:13,605 --> 00:49:15,876
WARREN: They didn't tell me
exactly who was after me,
864
00:49:15,943 --> 00:49:20,785
because they wouldn't want to
ruin an ongoing investigation.
865
00:49:20,852 --> 00:49:25,662
But I was able to,
you know, just trust them.
866
00:49:25,729 --> 00:49:27,800
♪♪ ♪♪
867
00:49:27,866 --> 00:49:29,903
CHRIS: The more evidence
you can bring
868
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:32,141
only helps
the prosecution's case.
869
00:49:32,208 --> 00:49:34,680
To round out the case
and prove
870
00:49:34,747 --> 00:49:36,651
that this was more
than just talk,
871
00:49:36,717 --> 00:49:38,721
Joe Moore
was given a photo
872
00:49:38,788 --> 00:49:43,263
to show them and ask again,
"Is this what you wanted?"
873
00:49:44,567 --> 00:49:46,436
JOE: No one told me beforehand
874
00:49:46,504 --> 00:49:49,510
that they were
going to set that up.
875
00:49:49,577 --> 00:49:51,279
♪♪ ♪♪
876
00:49:51,346 --> 00:49:53,952
SINGER:
♪♪ Hell, brimstone ♪♪
877
00:49:54,019 --> 00:49:57,358
♪♪ Fire burn on ♪♪
878
00:49:57,425 --> 00:49:59,697
♪♪ This is the fire ♪♪
879
00:49:59,764 --> 00:50:03,170
♪♪ ♪♪
880
00:50:03,237 --> 00:50:04,840
GEORGE:
The FBI hands you a phone
881
00:50:04,907 --> 00:50:07,211
with a picture of
Warren Williams on the ground.
882
00:50:07,278 --> 00:50:08,581
What did you think
when you saw that?
883
00:50:08,648 --> 00:50:13,624
JOE: I'm thinking...
I failed.
884
00:50:13,691 --> 00:50:15,596
And then they
sort of snickered
885
00:50:15,662 --> 00:50:16,597
and laughed and said,
886
00:50:16,664 --> 00:50:18,166
"It's just
a staged death scene.
887
00:50:18,233 --> 00:50:20,839
We wanted to see
how effective it was."
888
00:50:20,906 --> 00:50:23,244
♪♪ ♪♪
889
00:50:23,310 --> 00:50:25,414
- And what did the FBI ask you
to do with that photo?
890
00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:29,288
- I was to present this photo
to the three guys,
891
00:50:29,355 --> 00:50:31,059
as I was the hit man.
892
00:50:31,126 --> 00:50:33,964
I did this job to sort of
893
00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:36,270
give the defendants a chance
894
00:50:36,336 --> 00:50:40,144
to say they really
895
00:50:40,211 --> 00:50:43,150
didn't intend this,
896
00:50:43,216 --> 00:50:46,824
or to suggest that, yes,
this is what they wanted.
897
00:50:46,891 --> 00:50:49,563
♪♪ ♪♪
898
00:50:55,642 --> 00:50:58,146
JASON: He was outfitted
with a secret video camera.
899
00:50:58,213 --> 00:51:02,021
And he knows
that his life is in danger.
900
00:51:02,087 --> 00:51:05,796
He's seen what
these men are capable of.
901
00:51:05,862 --> 00:51:07,967
They would kill him
if they found
902
00:51:08,033 --> 00:51:09,737
that he was wearing a wire.
903
00:51:09,804 --> 00:51:12,809
♪♪ ♪♪
904
00:51:12,876 --> 00:51:16,483
JOE: I made messages
for my wife and children.
905
00:51:16,551 --> 00:51:18,153
- In case something
happened to you?
906
00:51:18,220 --> 00:51:19,623
- Because every day,
907
00:51:19,690 --> 00:51:21,927
there's a chance
I wasn't coming home.
908
00:51:21,994 --> 00:51:24,032
- What were they?
909
00:51:24,098 --> 00:51:28,274
- The last words that
910
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:31,881
I felt they wanted to hear
from me.
911
00:51:31,948 --> 00:51:33,551
♪♪ ♪♪
912
00:51:33,618 --> 00:51:37,759
GEORGE: So what happened when
you showed them the phone?
913
00:51:37,826 --> 00:51:40,464
JOE: When I drove
to meet with David Moran
914
00:51:40,532 --> 00:51:43,369
to show him the photo,
I had a little bit of time
915
00:51:43,436 --> 00:51:45,675
to get into character slowly
916
00:51:45,742 --> 00:51:49,683
and think about
what I had to do.
917
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:52,354
♪♪ ♪♪
918
00:52:04,412 --> 00:52:08,353
Moran was known for being
919
00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:10,692
an extremely
dangerous person,
920
00:52:10,758 --> 00:52:13,865
beating prisoners to within
an inch of their life,
921
00:52:13,932 --> 00:52:19,408
and I was very worried
about showing him the photo.
922
00:52:30,999 --> 00:52:34,706
- He was excited and gleeful,
923
00:52:34,773 --> 00:52:36,342
and I thought to myself,
924
00:52:36,409 --> 00:52:39,482
"How disgusting
can someone be?"
925
00:52:39,550 --> 00:52:42,388
But I just had
to maintain my composure,
926
00:52:42,455 --> 00:52:44,392
maintain my character.
927
00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:49,368
- Don't interject,
and let him do the talking.
928
00:53:10,845 --> 00:53:13,316
[engine turns over]
929
00:53:22,769 --> 00:53:25,374
JOE: It was upsetting,
but I can't dwell on that.
930
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,015
I can't quit.
That's not an option.
931
00:53:29,082 --> 00:53:32,021
It's on me to make this case.
932
00:53:32,087 --> 00:53:34,994
JASON: At this point,
Joe is so deep in this case.
933
00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:38,233
Even with all the stress,
there's a job to finish.
934
00:53:43,177 --> 00:53:45,147
JOE: I met with Thomas Driver
935
00:53:45,213 --> 00:53:49,122
at a parking lot
of a shopping mall
936
00:53:49,188 --> 00:53:51,292
in Lake City, Florida.
937
00:53:52,862 --> 00:53:57,639
Since this particular case
started with him,
938
00:53:57,706 --> 00:54:00,477
it needed his approval.
939
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,621
- If Thomas Driver had said
that he didn't want
940
00:54:21,687 --> 00:54:23,525
the target, Williams, dead,
941
00:54:23,591 --> 00:54:25,862
the entire case
would have fell apart.
942
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:49,977
[chuckles]
943
00:54:50,044 --> 00:54:54,051
JOE: He appeared to get
the blood that he wanted.
944
00:55:02,802 --> 00:55:05,975
When I got back
into the vehicle...
945
00:55:09,014 --> 00:55:12,088
I felt a huge relief.
946
00:55:12,154 --> 00:55:14,860
[dramatic music]
947
00:55:14,927 --> 00:55:19,703
However, when I had to go meet
with Charles Newcomb,
948
00:55:19,769 --> 00:55:22,509
that was probably
the most intense meeting.
949
00:55:22,576 --> 00:55:24,980
♪♪ ♪♪
950
00:55:25,047 --> 00:55:27,117
He was certainly
the ringleader
951
00:55:27,184 --> 00:55:30,892
and probably the most driven
of the three.
952
00:55:30,959 --> 00:55:33,664
♪♪ ♪♪
953
00:55:46,389 --> 00:55:51,266
Newcomb was so meticulous
and had an attention to detail.
954
00:55:51,332 --> 00:55:53,403
It was alarming.
955
00:56:00,518 --> 00:56:02,822
JOE:
Charles Newcomb was perhaps
956
00:56:02,889 --> 00:56:05,761
most likely to ask
a dangerous question.
957
00:56:13,476 --> 00:56:18,019
I expected him to ask,
"Where's the body?"
958
00:56:27,038 --> 00:56:30,010
Because there's
a guy murdered.
959
00:56:30,077 --> 00:56:32,347
We don't see anything
about it in the news.
960
00:56:32,414 --> 00:56:34,151
Where's the body?
961
00:56:49,281 --> 00:56:51,052
I had to come up with a way
962
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:54,860
to get him off of
his normal thought processes.
963
00:56:54,927 --> 00:56:58,467
And I thought,
"OK, what can I do?"
964
00:56:58,534 --> 00:57:01,841
I can pretend to be sick,
965
00:57:01,907 --> 00:57:04,445
had powder on my face
to look like I was pale.
966
00:57:10,792 --> 00:57:12,896
He looked at me,
and I kind of tried
967
00:57:12,963 --> 00:57:16,469
to look like I was tired
and exhausted.
968
00:57:27,992 --> 00:57:32,836
- I keep telling myself,
"Breathe, focus, listen,
969
00:57:32,903 --> 00:57:36,677
breathe, focus, listen."
970
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,813
JOE: The moment
where Charles Newcomb
971
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,020
became happy with it,
I thought to myself,
972
00:57:58,086 --> 00:58:00,591
"Thank God."
973
00:58:00,658 --> 00:58:04,031
I have reached that crest.
974
00:58:08,005 --> 00:58:10,778
But I had seen
so many false peaks
975
00:58:10,845 --> 00:58:15,420
that I questioned myself,
"Is this really the end?"
976
00:58:16,289 --> 00:58:18,126
REPORTER:
Shocking case coming to light.
977
00:58:18,193 --> 00:58:20,598
Three KKK members,
who are current
978
00:58:20,665 --> 00:58:22,134
and former
Florida corrections...
979
00:58:22,201 --> 00:58:23,738
REPORTER:
The Attorney General,
980
00:58:23,805 --> 00:58:25,207
Pam Bondi, was fired up
about these arrests.
981
00:58:25,274 --> 00:58:26,943
- Hey, guys.
982
00:58:30,383 --> 00:58:32,922
ANTWAN: Up at
Charlotte Correctional,
983
00:58:32,989 --> 00:58:35,060
that's the prison
I went home from,
984
00:58:35,127 --> 00:58:37,431
you know,
the 6:00 news came on.
985
00:58:37,498 --> 00:58:39,101
So I'm like,
"Man, what is that?"
986
00:58:39,168 --> 00:58:41,707
- Today, in conjunction
with the FBI,
987
00:58:41,774 --> 00:58:43,443
three defendants were charged,
988
00:58:43,511 --> 00:58:46,817
all with conspiracy
to commit first-degree murder.
989
00:58:46,884 --> 00:58:48,821
ANTWAN: They showed the
pictures of the officers.
990
00:58:48,888 --> 00:58:50,357
And I recognized chief.
991
00:58:50,423 --> 00:58:53,430
I said, "That's Chief.
Man, what the hell?"
992
00:58:53,496 --> 00:58:55,100
And then I heard the story.
993
00:58:55,167 --> 00:58:57,304
PAM: All three were employees
994
00:58:57,371 --> 00:58:59,442
of the Department
of Corrections
995
00:58:59,510 --> 00:59:03,517
and are known alleged members
996
00:59:03,584 --> 00:59:05,822
of the Ku Klux Klan.
997
00:59:05,889 --> 00:59:07,992
- So it was--[chuckles]
I went through
998
00:59:08,059 --> 00:59:09,829
all the emotions
sitting there watching this.
999
00:59:09,896 --> 00:59:12,602
I'm not gonna lie,
my first thought was,
1000
00:59:12,669 --> 00:59:14,238
"These guards,
they done went crazy now."
1001
00:59:14,305 --> 00:59:16,308
- And, again, no one
has been convicted yet.
1002
00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:17,979
These are pending charges,
1003
00:59:18,045 --> 00:59:21,452
but the facts
of this case are despicable.
1004
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,425
[soft dramatic music]
1005
00:59:24,492 --> 00:59:26,062
♪♪ ♪♪
1006
00:59:26,129 --> 00:59:29,334
WARREN: I saw that the
officers had gotten arrested.
1007
00:59:31,372 --> 00:59:34,980
I knew that
everything had worked out.
1008
00:59:35,046 --> 00:59:37,919
It was time
for me to go back home.
1009
00:59:39,723 --> 00:59:41,693
JOE: After Driver,
Newcomb, and Moran
1010
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,165
were taken into custody...
1011
00:59:44,231 --> 00:59:48,373
my wife, my children,
and I were taken
1012
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,609
into protective custody.
1013
00:59:49,676 --> 00:59:52,214
- The FBI had called us,
and they said
1014
00:59:52,281 --> 00:59:55,822
to get what you need
and you have to leave.
1015
00:59:55,888 --> 00:59:59,729
So fit everything that you can
into your car, and that's it.
1016
00:59:59,796 --> 01:00:02,233
♪♪ ♪♪
1017
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,206
JOE: It's an incredibly
emotional feeling.
1018
01:00:07,378 --> 01:00:12,287
But I had to struggle
with this character
1019
01:00:12,354 --> 01:00:16,062
that I had been
for so many years.
1020
01:00:16,129 --> 01:00:18,800
You try to get back
to your life,
1021
01:00:18,867 --> 01:00:23,176
but it becomes
more and more difficult...
1022
01:00:23,243 --> 01:00:28,152
to discard or insulate
yourself from that character.
1023
01:00:28,219 --> 01:00:32,829
♪♪ ♪♪
1024
01:00:32,896 --> 01:00:34,666
- Joe being undercover
for so long,
1025
01:00:34,732 --> 01:00:36,670
it just--it takes a toll.
1026
01:00:36,737 --> 01:00:39,943
I was ready to start over new.
1027
01:00:45,386 --> 01:00:47,324
CHRIS:
The arrests occur in April.
1028
01:00:47,391 --> 01:00:51,499
And then two years later,
a trial.
1029
01:00:51,567 --> 01:00:52,735
Now Joe Moore
1030
01:00:52,802 --> 01:00:54,071
is going to testify
1031
01:00:54,137 --> 01:00:56,543
as the key state's witness.
1032
01:00:56,610 --> 01:01:00,416
JASON: Driver got a reduced,
four-year sentence
1033
01:01:00,483 --> 01:01:03,924
after entering a guilty plea
to a lesser charge.
1034
01:01:03,991 --> 01:01:07,532
Both Moran and Newcomb
1035
01:01:07,598 --> 01:01:11,272
stood trial for conspiracy
to commit murder.
1036
01:01:11,339 --> 01:01:13,109
LATONYA:
We got in the courthouse.
1037
01:01:13,176 --> 01:01:15,213
They had FBI agents there.
1038
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,552
They had
so many polices there,
1039
01:01:17,619 --> 01:01:19,689
and Warren, he was all right.
1040
01:01:19,756 --> 01:01:23,831
He don't show
a lot of emotions.
1041
01:01:23,898 --> 01:01:26,335
He just hold 'em in.
1042
01:01:26,402 --> 01:01:30,645
♪♪ ♪♪
1043
01:01:30,712 --> 01:01:33,717
JOE: The defense in this case
was not able to attack
1044
01:01:33,784 --> 01:01:36,288
the facts of the case.
1045
01:01:50,016 --> 01:01:53,055
They couldn't deny the fact
1046
01:01:53,122 --> 01:01:55,995
of Williams
as being the victim.
1047
01:01:56,061 --> 01:01:59,970
The only thing
they could attack was me.
1048
01:02:00,037 --> 01:02:02,942
[tense music]
1049
01:02:03,009 --> 01:02:05,080
♪♪ ♪♪
1050
01:02:05,147 --> 01:02:08,386
- You got paid by the FBI?
- Yes.
1051
01:02:08,453 --> 01:02:09,689
- How much?
1052
01:02:09,756 --> 01:02:13,362
- For the 10-year span,
1053
01:02:13,429 --> 01:02:16,001
somewhere over $100,000.
1054
01:02:16,068 --> 01:02:18,439
GEORGE: And at the trial...
JOE: Yes.
1055
01:02:18,507 --> 01:02:21,112
GEORGE: The defense tried
to make an issue of this?
1056
01:02:21,178 --> 01:02:22,481
- Yes.
1057
01:02:22,548 --> 01:02:24,452
- But you say you weren't doing
this for the money.
1058
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,654
- I was not.
1059
01:02:25,721 --> 01:02:27,357
At one point,
I actually told the FBI,
1060
01:02:27,424 --> 01:02:30,330
"Don't pay me anything.
Just cover expenses."
1061
01:02:30,397 --> 01:02:33,870
- The concept that Joe Moore
would not have been paid
1062
01:02:33,937 --> 01:02:36,242
or his payments were contingent
1063
01:02:36,308 --> 01:02:40,951
on positive reporting
or results is just a fallacy.
1064
01:02:41,018 --> 01:02:44,124
If his payments
were dependent on arrests
1065
01:02:44,191 --> 01:02:46,930
or successful operations,
1066
01:02:46,997 --> 01:02:50,705
then we wouldn't have been
paying him up to that point.
1067
01:02:50,772 --> 01:02:54,712
- Defense also tried to argue
that your mental-health issues
1068
01:02:54,779 --> 01:02:57,284
made you an unreliable witness.
1069
01:02:57,351 --> 01:02:59,823
- That's fine.
1070
01:02:59,889 --> 01:03:02,127
Prove it.
1071
01:03:02,194 --> 01:03:06,001
- Not one element
of his mental-health struggles
1072
01:03:06,068 --> 01:03:07,772
dealt with truthfulness,
1073
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:10,745
and they can say
his truthfulness
1074
01:03:10,812 --> 01:03:12,649
was suspect all they want.
1075
01:03:12,715 --> 01:03:15,554
Tapes don't lie.
1076
01:03:15,621 --> 01:03:18,059
JASON: Joe weathered
the cross-examination well,
1077
01:03:18,125 --> 01:03:20,898
and the jury found him
credible enough
1078
01:03:20,964 --> 01:03:23,871
to find these men guilty.
1079
01:03:23,937 --> 01:03:27,845
Moran and Newcomb were
sentenced to 12 years each.
1080
01:03:27,912 --> 01:03:29,850
LATONYA:
And I thank God for it,
1081
01:03:29,916 --> 01:03:31,686
and I thank God
for the informant
1082
01:03:31,753 --> 01:03:33,456
that told his story,
1083
01:03:33,524 --> 01:03:36,362
that put his life
on the line for us,
1084
01:03:36,429 --> 01:03:40,103
because this could
have been so wrong.
1085
01:03:40,169 --> 01:03:42,407
It could have been so wrong.
1086
01:03:47,083 --> 01:03:49,556
[instrumental hip-hop beat]
1087
01:03:49,623 --> 01:03:53,196
JASON: For Warren,
even though that plot
1088
01:03:53,263 --> 01:03:55,334
was foiled and these men
were put in prison,
1089
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,208
he lives with a constant fear
that someone's gonna come
1090
01:03:59,275 --> 01:04:02,247
and finish what
their Klan brothers couldn't.
1091
01:04:02,314 --> 01:04:03,951
LATONYA:
People know who we are,
1092
01:04:04,018 --> 01:04:07,157
but we don't know
who all they are.
1093
01:04:07,224 --> 01:04:08,727
TERRILL:
And so he found himself
1094
01:04:08,794 --> 01:04:11,232
just stuck in the house
and looking out the window
1095
01:04:11,299 --> 01:04:14,004
and making sure
no strange cars were around.
1096
01:04:14,071 --> 01:04:16,710
And that's a very difficult
place to be
1097
01:04:16,777 --> 01:04:19,716
for years, for a lifetime.
1098
01:04:19,783 --> 01:04:22,254
WARREN: I kind of like
being alone more,
1099
01:04:22,321 --> 01:04:27,063
but I try not to have
too many friends because...
1100
01:04:27,130 --> 01:04:30,904
I really can't trust
everybody in the world.
1101
01:04:30,971 --> 01:04:34,546
LATONYA: He will sit
in the house and make beats,
1102
01:04:34,612 --> 01:04:36,616
He write poems.
1103
01:04:37,952 --> 01:04:41,225
He's more into poetry
and music.
1104
01:04:41,292 --> 01:04:44,465
I don't really think
he even talk to people.
1105
01:04:44,533 --> 01:04:47,003
You know,
it was hard for him
1106
01:04:47,070 --> 01:04:50,243
to come out the house.
1107
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:52,080
Warren hasn't been fishing.
1108
01:04:52,146 --> 01:04:55,487
- That serenity
has totally been shattered
1109
01:04:55,555 --> 01:04:58,392
because that thing
that he loves to do
1110
01:04:58,459 --> 01:05:01,933
was part of the plan
of the Klan to kill him.
1111
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,906
[soft dramatic music]
1112
01:05:04,973 --> 01:05:07,410
♪♪ ♪♪
1113
01:05:07,477 --> 01:05:09,549
I had one very simple question
after reporting
1114
01:05:09,616 --> 01:05:13,055
this story for Florida's
corrections officials.
1115
01:05:13,122 --> 01:05:15,193
If you know
that there were Klansmen
1116
01:05:15,260 --> 01:05:16,997
working in one of your prisons,
1117
01:05:17,064 --> 01:05:18,266
what have you done
1118
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:19,836
to investigate whether or not
1119
01:05:19,903 --> 01:05:23,309
this is a wider problem?
1120
01:05:23,375 --> 01:05:26,683
And I was told by them
that there was no indication
1121
01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:29,523
or evidence that would lead
to a wider investigation.
1122
01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:32,127
I know that's not true
in a couple of ways.
1123
01:05:32,193 --> 01:05:35,801
One, Joe Moore told me
that he had evidence
1124
01:05:35,868 --> 01:05:37,638
that other members of the Klan
1125
01:05:37,705 --> 01:05:39,843
had also worked
at that same prison.
1126
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:41,580
JOE:
As Grand Nighthawk,
1127
01:05:41,647 --> 01:05:45,153
I had access
to membership lists,
1128
01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:46,990
and that information
was vetted.
1129
01:05:47,056 --> 01:05:51,298
This list has not only
Thomas Driver,
1130
01:05:51,365 --> 01:05:54,271
David Moran, and
Charles Newcomb on the list,
1131
01:05:54,338 --> 01:05:56,976
it has other
law enforcement officers
1132
01:05:57,043 --> 01:05:58,847
on the list as well.
1133
01:05:58,914 --> 01:06:01,151
JASON: Beyond Joe's list,
my investigation
1134
01:06:01,218 --> 01:06:03,924
found numerous
more recent cases
1135
01:06:03,991 --> 01:06:05,861
of Florida prison guards
1136
01:06:05,928 --> 01:06:08,734
who are suspected members
of white supremacist groups
1137
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,038
at prisons throughout
the state of Florida,
1138
01:06:11,104 --> 01:06:13,977
not just the Florida Reception
and Medical Center.
1139
01:06:14,044 --> 01:06:17,317
This is QAnon symbolism here.
1140
01:06:17,384 --> 01:06:20,156
It's like a "Punisher."
1141
01:06:20,223 --> 01:06:24,364
If you drive to
the parking lot of the prison
1142
01:06:24,431 --> 01:06:27,404
where these Klansmen work,
you will see
1143
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:30,511
symbols that are used
by white supremacist groups
1144
01:06:30,577 --> 01:06:32,882
slapped on as stickers
on the cars
1145
01:06:32,948 --> 01:06:34,653
in the employee parking lot,
1146
01:06:34,719 --> 01:06:37,257
and you would think that
as somebody who works
1147
01:06:37,324 --> 01:06:40,096
for a state institution,
those types of symbols,
1148
01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:41,967
while covered
by the First Amendment,
1149
01:06:42,033 --> 01:06:43,804
would still be frowned upon.
1150
01:06:43,870 --> 01:06:45,641
There's
an institutional indifference
1151
01:06:45,708 --> 01:06:47,343
by the Department
of Corrections
1152
01:06:47,410 --> 01:06:51,018
to my questions and
to this problem as a whole.
1153
01:06:51,085 --> 01:06:53,757
And we know this is just not
a Florida problem.
1154
01:06:53,823 --> 01:06:56,630
It's just not
a correctional problem.
1155
01:06:56,697 --> 01:06:58,700
- White nationalists
are seeing it as their time.
1156
01:06:58,767 --> 01:07:00,705
[people chanting]
1157
01:07:00,771 --> 01:07:03,877
[impacts, people screaming,
tires screeching]
1158
01:07:03,944 --> 01:07:06,282
MERRICK: The top domestic
violent extremist threat
1159
01:07:06,348 --> 01:07:08,553
we face comes from racially
1160
01:07:08,620 --> 01:07:11,359
or ethnically motivated
violent extremists,
1161
01:07:11,425 --> 01:07:14,833
specifically those who advocate
for the superiority
1162
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:16,035
of the white race.
1163
01:07:16,102 --> 01:07:18,507
JASON: Louisiana...
1164
01:07:18,574 --> 01:07:20,242
- Tonight
a Lake Arthur police officer
1165
01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:22,781
is out of a job over
a controversial picture...
1166
01:07:22,848 --> 01:07:24,952
REPORTER: Taken at
a Ku Klux Klan meeting.
1167
01:07:25,019 --> 01:07:26,188
- Michigan...
1168
01:07:26,255 --> 01:07:27,892
- Muskegon police officer
is now on leave
1169
01:07:27,959 --> 01:07:30,698
after KKK memorabilia
was discovered in his home.
1170
01:07:30,764 --> 01:07:32,033
- Ohio...
1171
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:33,904
- The Sheffield Lake
police chief has resigned
1172
01:07:33,971 --> 01:07:37,444
after video emerged
of him placing KKK imagery
1173
01:07:37,511 --> 01:07:40,884
on a raincoat
belonging to a Black officer.
1174
01:07:40,951 --> 01:07:44,425
JASON: So the Klan is also
evolving and morphing,
1175
01:07:44,491 --> 01:07:48,199
often joining up
with other more modern groups.
1176
01:07:48,266 --> 01:07:50,470
all: [shouting indistinctly]
Stop the steal!
1177
01:07:50,538 --> 01:07:52,107
GREG: From the Proud Boys
to the Oath Keepers
1178
01:07:52,173 --> 01:07:53,510
to the Klan,
1179
01:07:53,577 --> 01:07:56,850
that ribbon of racial identity
or white supremacy
1180
01:07:56,916 --> 01:07:58,253
runs through all of them.
1181
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:00,256
PERSON:
You fucking traitors!
1182
01:08:00,323 --> 01:08:03,262
GREG: These groups are trying
to recruit law enforcement,
1183
01:08:03,328 --> 01:08:05,635
and they're using
and twisting these symbols.
1184
01:08:05,701 --> 01:08:07,838
CHRIS: They're armed.
They've had training.
1185
01:08:07,905 --> 01:08:10,678
They have access
to confidential information.
1186
01:08:10,744 --> 01:08:12,347
GREG:
When we talk about extremism
1187
01:08:12,414 --> 01:08:14,118
within law enforcement,
1188
01:08:14,184 --> 01:08:15,821
I've heard 1%.
I've heard 2%.
1189
01:08:15,888 --> 01:08:19,696
Nobody wants to hear, "It's OK.
I have 2% cancer."
1190
01:08:19,762 --> 01:08:21,767
It's going to spread.
1191
01:08:21,834 --> 01:08:24,505
JASON: The states that have
tried to implement screening
1192
01:08:24,572 --> 01:08:27,311
have come against
the correctional guards unions,
1193
01:08:27,377 --> 01:08:29,348
and they're powerful.
1194
01:08:29,415 --> 01:08:30,617
You see in the federal level,
1195
01:08:30,684 --> 01:08:32,721
hearings and discussions,
at least,
1196
01:08:32,788 --> 01:08:35,359
of these types of problems,
but at the state level,
1197
01:08:35,426 --> 01:08:37,899
they're not seemed
to be taken very seriously.
1198
01:08:37,965 --> 01:08:40,403
[indistinct shouting]
1199
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:42,775
TERRILL: And it's something
that has to stop.
1200
01:08:42,841 --> 01:08:45,747
Until America decides
1201
01:08:45,814 --> 01:08:48,152
to live its creed...
1202
01:08:48,218 --> 01:08:51,459
and face up to its flaws,
1203
01:08:51,526 --> 01:08:53,362
there will continue
to be stories
1204
01:08:53,429 --> 01:08:55,232
that shock the conscience.
1205
01:09:03,015 --> 01:09:05,754
JASON: After the trial,
Joe's identity
1206
01:09:05,821 --> 01:09:07,457
is now discoverable
1207
01:09:07,524 --> 01:09:09,729
because he testified
in open court.
1208
01:09:09,796 --> 01:09:11,833
- It's the last goal
of the Bureau,
1209
01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:14,772
or any law enforcement,
is to expose your informants.
1210
01:09:14,839 --> 01:09:20,283
Is it the case in some states
and jurisdictions?
1211
01:09:20,350 --> 01:09:23,055
Sometimes you're required to.
1212
01:09:23,122 --> 01:09:25,895
- He is responsible
for putting away
1213
01:09:25,961 --> 01:09:28,031
members of the Ku Klux Klan.
1214
01:09:28,098 --> 01:09:32,274
It's a betrayal,
not only of his Klan oath
1215
01:09:32,340 --> 01:09:33,643
from the Klan point of view,
1216
01:09:33,710 --> 01:09:38,152
but also these men
who he'd befriended.
1217
01:09:38,219 --> 01:09:40,289
The FBI gave him
and his family
1218
01:09:40,356 --> 01:09:41,926
a new identity, new names
1219
01:09:41,993 --> 01:09:44,431
and put him
into Witness Protection.
1220
01:09:44,497 --> 01:09:46,435
But at some point,
1221
01:09:46,502 --> 01:09:49,041
someone who is affiliated
with the Klan contacted Joe
1222
01:09:49,108 --> 01:09:51,513
and said,
"We know where you are."
1223
01:09:51,580 --> 01:09:53,883
JOE: We have had
representatives
1224
01:09:53,950 --> 01:09:55,554
from the KKK come
to our house,
1225
01:09:55,621 --> 01:09:57,791
let us know
they know where we live.
1226
01:09:57,858 --> 01:10:01,966
We've had supporters of KKK
contact us on our phones.
1227
01:10:03,803 --> 01:10:06,041
I have no choice
but to come out and speak
1228
01:10:06,108 --> 01:10:07,678
to the general public
1229
01:10:07,745 --> 01:10:10,383
in an effort to try
to bring light to the issues
1230
01:10:10,450 --> 01:10:12,955
that I uncovered
when I was undercover.
1231
01:10:14,725 --> 01:10:18,199
If something
were to happen to me
1232
01:10:18,266 --> 01:10:20,403
because of the threats,
1233
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:22,908
I needed the world
to know the truth.
1234
01:10:24,444 --> 01:10:26,348
ZOE: So the youngest
doesn't grasp
1235
01:10:26,415 --> 01:10:29,154
what Daddy has really done,
1236
01:10:29,221 --> 01:10:32,027
but as far
as my two older children,
1237
01:10:32,094 --> 01:10:36,302
they look
at my husband as a hero.
1238
01:10:36,368 --> 01:10:38,908
- You recently met
Warren Williams.
1239
01:10:38,974 --> 01:10:41,478
JOE: Yes, I did.
1240
01:10:41,546 --> 01:10:44,585
[soft dramatic music]
1241
01:10:44,652 --> 01:10:47,357
How you doing, Warren?
Nice to finally meet you.
1242
01:10:47,424 --> 01:10:48,560
- Nice to meet you, too.
1243
01:10:48,627 --> 01:10:50,029
- Thank you so much
for coming over.
1244
01:10:50,096 --> 01:10:52,301
- I'd like to say thank you
for what you did for me.
1245
01:10:52,367 --> 01:10:54,037
- You got it, man.
You got it.
1246
01:10:54,104 --> 01:10:55,507
- Thank you.
1247
01:10:57,009 --> 01:10:59,849
JOE:
When I met Warren Williams...
1248
01:11:01,886 --> 01:11:03,389
I...
1249
01:11:03,456 --> 01:11:05,861
I was fighting back the tears.
1250
01:11:05,927 --> 01:11:08,833
You just want to open
that gate right there for me?
1251
01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:13,811
Warren and I,
we both like to fish.
1252
01:11:13,877 --> 01:11:15,914
I could see
that when he's fishing,
1253
01:11:15,981 --> 01:11:18,920
he's just--
it's just him and nature.
1254
01:11:18,987 --> 01:11:22,628
♪♪ ♪♪
1255
01:11:22,695 --> 01:11:26,603
And it's just mind-blowing
1256
01:11:26,669 --> 01:11:31,078
how people can have
so much disdain
1257
01:11:31,144 --> 01:11:33,316
for a fellow human being,
1258
01:11:33,382 --> 01:11:36,622
certainly one
as such as Warren is.
1259
01:11:39,361 --> 01:11:41,465
- Can I ask
a personal question?
1260
01:11:41,533 --> 01:11:43,102
- Sure.
- It's not towards you.
1261
01:11:43,169 --> 01:11:47,344
- Oh, you can ask me anything.
- It has to do with me.
1262
01:11:47,410 --> 01:11:48,746
- OK.
1263
01:11:48,813 --> 01:11:53,355
- No matter who you are,
no matter how old you are,
1264
01:11:53,422 --> 01:11:55,260
you don't always
make good decisions.
1265
01:11:55,326 --> 01:11:56,629
- Uh-huh.
1266
01:11:56,696 --> 01:12:00,270
- Someone has to be there
to protect you.
1267
01:12:00,336 --> 01:12:04,712
Through thick and thin,
somebody should be there...
1268
01:12:04,778 --> 01:12:05,881
right?
1269
01:12:05,947 --> 01:12:07,584
- Like...
1270
01:12:07,651 --> 01:12:11,993
having somebody
you can go to for advice...
1271
01:12:12,059 --> 01:12:14,097
or...
1272
01:12:14,164 --> 01:12:16,168
- The kind of person you are.
1273
01:12:16,235 --> 01:12:18,172
- Oh.
[chuckles]
1274
01:12:18,238 --> 01:12:21,145
So, in your situation,
1275
01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:24,484
you were not treated fairly.
1276
01:12:24,552 --> 01:12:27,390
There were so many things
wrong with that.
1277
01:12:27,456 --> 01:12:29,962
And...
1278
01:12:30,029 --> 01:12:32,701
I sympathize with things
1279
01:12:32,768 --> 01:12:35,039
that you might
have gone through,
1280
01:12:35,105 --> 01:12:37,711
and...
1281
01:12:37,778 --> 01:12:40,049
it's not any more complicated
than that.
1282
01:12:40,116 --> 01:12:42,888
[tender music]
1283
01:12:42,955 --> 01:12:44,959
LATONYA: Warren have
a beautiful soul.
1284
01:12:45,026 --> 01:12:46,294
He do.
1285
01:12:46,361 --> 01:12:48,299
He's a great person.
1286
01:12:48,365 --> 01:12:49,902
I raised Warren
1287
01:12:49,969 --> 01:12:52,741
to be the man that I would want
to marry one day.
1288
01:12:52,808 --> 01:12:55,379
[laughs]
And he is.
1289
01:12:55,446 --> 01:12:57,317
He is.
1290
01:12:57,383 --> 01:12:58,887
JOE:
All right.
1291
01:12:58,954 --> 01:13:01,859
There you go, buddy--
a little one-pounder.
1292
01:13:01,926 --> 01:13:03,597
LATONYA:
I want him
1293
01:13:03,664 --> 01:13:07,671
to at least try
to move on with his life...
1294
01:13:07,738 --> 01:13:10,443
but I don't know
if that will ever happen.
1295
01:13:10,511 --> 01:13:13,148
♪♪ ♪♪
1296
01:13:13,215 --> 01:13:17,925
TERRILL: But I think he's
found a way to continue on.
1297
01:13:17,992 --> 01:13:21,332
He'll be able to talk
about his experiences
1298
01:13:21,398 --> 01:13:23,102
through poetry.
1299
01:13:23,169 --> 01:13:25,139
♪♪ ♪♪
1300
01:13:25,206 --> 01:13:27,812
WARREN: "Love is trust.
Love is compromise.
1301
01:13:27,878 --> 01:13:31,752
Love is a must
in order to survive."
1302
01:13:31,819 --> 01:13:34,759
TERRILL: He has a story
that America needs to hear.
1303
01:13:34,825 --> 01:13:37,263
He has a story
that the world needs to hear.
1304
01:13:37,330 --> 01:13:38,600
And he's got a voice
1305
01:13:38,666 --> 01:13:41,271
that's gonna allow him
to share that story.
1306
01:13:41,338 --> 01:13:44,512
WARREN: Love is a promise.
Keep love alive.
1307
01:13:44,579 --> 01:13:46,950
♪♪ ♪♪
1308
01:13:47,017 --> 01:13:49,989
Know who you love before you
define who to hate.
1309
01:13:50,056 --> 01:13:51,959
♪♪ ♪♪
1310
01:13:52,026 --> 01:13:54,364
The love you give
is the love you get.
1311
01:13:54,431 --> 01:13:57,470
♪♪ ♪♪
1312
01:13:57,538 --> 01:14:01,344
No matter where you stand,
no matter whom you're with.
1313
01:14:01,411 --> 01:14:07,791
♪♪ ♪♪
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