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(quirky music playing)
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John Wilson: Hey, New York.
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If you're like me, you spend
a lot of time indoors.
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Most of your favorite things
can be found
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within the four walls
of your apartment.
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And some days,
you forget to leave at all.
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This is why it's important
to force yourself outside
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every once in a while to
get reacquainted with nature.
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But, when you finally
get out there,
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(clears throat)
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You may not know what to do
or how to enjoy yourself.
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Most of the time, your eyes
are focused on the ground,
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uh, whenever you walk around.
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But, once you start to look up,
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there's a whole other world
you didn't know about.
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There's danger,
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scandal,
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and suspense.
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Onlooker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
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- (car horn honks)
- No...
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- (crowd gasps)
- Oh, my God!
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(applause, cheering)
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John: But most of the time
when people are looking up,
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they seem to be
fixated on birds.
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You never really
cared about birds.
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You're not even sure
what they do.
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But, there must be
something magic about them
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for so many people to devote
so much time to looking at them.
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So, instead of spending
another afternoon
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staring into space,
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or feeling cooped up inside,
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stick with me and I'll show you
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how to escape your old routine
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and start, uh,
just watching birds.
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First thing
you're gonna wanna do
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is get a little guide
that h-has all the birds in it
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so you know
what you're looking at.
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This looks like a cardinal.
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That might be a hawk.
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And that's a pigeon.
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But most birds are very far away
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and you can't really
see them very well.
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Seems like birders have
a lot of gear they use
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to see better with.
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So, go to a store that
specializes in stuff like this
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to pick something up
for yourself.
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What kind of stuff
do you got here
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for, for long-range
surveillance?
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You got binoculars.
If you're into hunting.
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Deer hunting, bear.
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-John: Okay, yeah. Maybe some birds, too.
-Clerk: Birds also.
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We also have GPS trackers
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- uh, if you like to track your-your spouse.
- John: Oh, okay.
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You can track your employee.
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John: Can you track
animals with this?
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Clerk: Uh, no, that would be
a different type of, uh, GPS.
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John:
Who are your biggest customers?
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Well, my biggest customers
are mostly women.
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Women sometimes are smart,
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and they know how to lie
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and do things
more than, um, men.
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Uh, men, I guess, sometimes
they're... easily get caught,
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because, sometimes, they get
too involved with the other person,
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and they just forget about...
They just don't think straight.
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I think a woman thinks
a little bit more,
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uh, than getting caught
than a man.
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John:
Do you ever go bird watching?
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Bird watching. Mm...
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You know, clients ask me
to do a type of work,
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to, to do a surveillance,
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that's kind of like bird
watching, but really not.
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It's really, uh, actually
watching people. (Chuckles)
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That's what I do.
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- John: Yeah, me, too.
- Okay.
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John: So, now that you have
your new binoculars, or whatever,
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you try to join
a bird watching group
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to get a better idea
of where to look.
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What's going on up there?
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- Birder 1: Well, those are parrots.
- John: Oh, wow.
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(parrots squawking)
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- Look, there goes the Cooper's hawk.
- Birder 2: Yeah.
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We do something on our walks
where we exaggerate and go,
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"Wow! Look at that!"
And I don't know,
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but, just when I said
that right now, I felt,
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"Oh, wonder if
something's happening."
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And that's one thing
we can do during bird walks
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is if we don't happen
to see much,
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just go ahead
and go "wow" anyway,
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and train yourself to be amazed
at what's here right now.
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John (flatly): Wow.
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Birder 1: Those are
the English house sparrows.
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- John: I don't see it.
- Oh, look at there!
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- Those are black-headed gulls.
- John: Where is it?
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There's the Cooper's hawk again.
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John:
I don't see it. You see it?
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Yeah, yeah, I've got him.
That's why, why I'm not moving.
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- John: Wow.
- Birder 2: Oh, my gosh!
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Birder 1: This is a Merlin!
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John:
A Merlin? How can you tell?
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They wrote everything down
that they saw,
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but you're not sure what they
do with that information.
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(birder speaking)
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John: A life list?
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John: How do you know, like, uh,
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like, if someone is telling the
truth that they've seen a bird?
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(birder speaking)
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And, it's, it's
the honor system. Right.
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- John: Really?
- Mm-hmm.
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John: It seems like the
world of birdwatchers
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is a trustworthy community.
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If you say that
you saw something,
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other birders
will just believe you.
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Yeah, I saw like a Blue Jay,
I think.
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Well, this would be
the time of year to see 'em
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- 'cause they're migrating through.
- (birds squawking)
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John: You like to be
naturally trusting of people
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but as you kept talking
to other birders,
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you met someone who
actually knew about a scandal
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that violated the birders'
sacred code of ethics.
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Swallowgate is a story
of a young,
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up-and-coming, enthusiastic,
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and well-liked birder,
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who found the very first
violet-green swallow
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in his state,
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and he became a birding hero.
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Other birders
were pretty suspicious
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of some of his reports,
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which led to a multi-month
investigation deep-dive
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into his original
violet-green swallow report.
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And it was found
to have been, uh, not legit.
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John: Did he think that
no one would just notice
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or care to investigate?
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I think so. I think he thought
he was too clever.
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- John: Mm.
- Ultimately.
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John: You were troubled that
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some people
lie about seeing birds,
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but New York is filled
with dubious claims.
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Businesses try
to make themselves
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seem better than they are
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by using clever language.
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You can understand why
they would stretch the truth
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to get a competitive edge,
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but birding seems like something
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you only really do for yourself,
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and it's unclear why someone
would make something up
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they saw in the sky.
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In 1975, I was working
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with a crew of
six other men in the forest.
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We encountered
a large glowing object.
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One of the men yelled out,
"It's a flying saucer!"
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I mean, it was,
it was not some vague,
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uh, glowing cloud or something.
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I was practically under it,
looking up at it, uh,
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when I was knocked unconscious.
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John: And then what happened?
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I woke up on board the craft
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in a great deal of pain.
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I saw these beings
standing over me
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and I just flipped out
and lashed out at 'em
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and, and fought, fought 'em off.
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John: Why did people
think that you made this up?
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Well, people were,
uh, very reluctant to believe
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that such a thing could happen.
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And, uh, so, naturally,
the immediate, um...
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thing was to assume
that there was...
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Hell, they come up with any
sort of excuse they could
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not to believe it, you know?
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"These guys must be
hallucinating on drugs."
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- But, seven people don't have identical hallucinations.
- John: Hm.
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So, they had taken
lie detector tests
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from the state police
and passed.
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John: Seems like even
if your story is farfetched,
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taking a lie detector test
is solid proof
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that you're telling the truth
about what you saw out there.
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- UFO Witness: This is the total?
- John: How much do we owe you?
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UFO Witness: It's 1,500.
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- John: Oh, okay. Um...
- So, this is 500 plus...
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- 20... 30...
- John: Okay. We have, we have the rest in the car.
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- I think I got, I think I got the wrong envelope.
- 40.
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John: So, you go to
a polygraph specialist
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to make sure your story
is convincing.
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A polygraph is
a psychophysiological technique.
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It's, uh, it's an aid
to an interrogation
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or an investigative interview.
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- Alright, just try to relax.
- John: Okay.
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Specialist:
Test's about to begin.
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Did you ever see a bald eagle?
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- John: Yes.
- Mm. Passed that one.
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Have you ever seen an egret?
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John: Yes.
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- Telling the truth.
- John: Mm.
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Did you ever see a raven?
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John: Yes.
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- Okay. Passed that.
- John: Really?
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Have you ever stolen anything
from a store?
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John: Yes.
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Have you ever lied
to someone on your show?
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- John: No.
- That's a lie.
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Are you a competitive
human being?
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- John: No.
- That's a lie.
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Have you ever lied about seeing
something that you didn't see?
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- John: No.
- That's a lie.
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John: Do people drink a lot
of water when they're lying?
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Yes. Uh,
the reason being is that, uh,
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you often get a dry throat
when you, when you lie.
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Did you ever betray
someone you love?
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- No.
- John: That's a lie.
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John: Fuck.
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Truth is most important thing,
always, man.
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More, more important than
anything else is the truth.
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It's the only way we can...
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we can all work out things
in this world.
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John: Maybe you're not as
honest as you thought you were.
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โช โช
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Whenever you shoot stuff
for the show,
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you take a lot of pride
in the fact that it's real,
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and that people always believe
what they're seeing.
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But, sometimes when you go out,
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you don't see
anything good at all
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and your hunger for rare images
only grows stronger.
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When you were making
the first season of the show,
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someone showed you a video,
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uh, that they took of a bathroom
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-overflowing with sewage. This is the video.
-Onlooker: No! No! No!
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- (splashing)
- (screaming)
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John: You were so jealous
that they had the good fortune
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to witness it,
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and you couldn't
bear the thought
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that this image wasn't yours.
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Then you remembered
that you needed to have
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at least one day on a stage
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in order to get
a tax credit for the show.
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So you rented a studio
and had them rebuild
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the whole bathroom from scratch.
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Then, you hired
pyrotechnics people
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to create a volcanic
eruption of fake poo
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to imitate the initial video
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and made them all sign NDAs.
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It eventually made it
into an episode later.
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You thought that people would
be really excited about it,
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but after it aired,
the only response
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was people asking you if
it was actually real.
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You kept telling them
that it was even though
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you knew in your heart
that it was a fabrication.
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(vacuum whirring)
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John: People also started to
ask you if you actually bought
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the building from your landlord
in that, that one episode,
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which was a ridiculous
question to you.
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โช โช
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And then when you went on
"Late Night,"
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the host asked you if something
else in your show was real,
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which made you feel like people
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just don't trust you anymore.
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Okay, the guy you meet
in the, in the supermarket.
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- Yeah.
- Was he just in the supermarket?
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- Yeah. I mean, he was in the Stop & Shop.
- (Jimmy Kimmel laughs)
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- And I had no idea about the Mandela Effect Conference.
- (audience laughter)
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John: Maybe birding
is the wrong hobby
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if everyone thinks
you're dishonest.
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And even if you do see
a rare bird,
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nobody will believe
what you saw anyway,
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because they're all just
waiting for you to trip up
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and make a mistake.
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- Get outta here!
- (seagulls cawing)
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John: Hey!
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Maybe the only place you belong
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is somewhere
with other people like you.
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It could be that you're making
the wrong kind of movies,
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and maybe it'll be good
to make a documentary
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that's backed up with a lot
of historical evidence
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that no one can disagree with.
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Supposedly, the theory is
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that they used less than
high-quality rivets
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- on the hull.
- John: Of what?
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- The "Titanic."
- John: Okay.
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So, so that when
it hit the iceberg,
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it just had like
a zipper effect,
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- and that's why it went down.
- John: Oh, okay.
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Seems like people
are still really interested
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in the "Titanic" these days.
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So, you hired a camera crew
and found an expert
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to get you started
on your new project.
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- Sound Mixer: Sound speeds.
- John: Hold it there.
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Assistant Camera:
Scene 71, take one.
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(majestic music playing)
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The "Titanic" was the most
opulent ship ever built,
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and it was supposed
to be unsinkable.
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Well, it turned out
that it wasn't unsinkable.
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As a matter of fact,
on its maiden voyage,
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it hit an iceberg,
and it went down
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in two hours and 40 minutes.
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- (music stops)
- John: Um...
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- Okay, great.
- Well, the wealthiest person on the ship
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was John Jacob Astor.
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John: Okay. Wait, can
you look at that camera?
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- (music resumes) - First were
pretty much wealthy people.
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- (music stops) - Second class
was kind of a professional class.
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John: You could just... Wait,
can you look at that camera?
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- (music resumes) - There were,
there were, um, uh, uh, clergymen.
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There were, uh, professors.
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-Could we stop a minute?
-John: Oh, sure, sure. Yeah, go ahead.
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You want some water
or something?
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- (car honks outside)
- (indistinct chatter)
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The two sister ships
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were the "Titanic"
and the "Olympic."
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And this one that looks
very much like the "Titanic"
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happens to be the "Olympic."
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John: Wait, sorry.
That's not the "Titanic"?
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Expert:
No. This is the "Olympic".
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But it was the "Titanic"
that went down.
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John: Wait, there are people
that think the "Titanic" didn't sink?
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There was fake news
right from the beginning.
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The theory that the "Titanic"
did not go down
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because it was "unsinkable,"
that the ship that went down
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was its sister ship,
the "Olympic."
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But it, it... that's what it is.
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It is fake news,
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and it had to do with people
collecting, um, insurance money.
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- And by the way, they did collect insurance money.
- John: Hm.
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You were surprised that there
were conspiracy theories
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about the "Titanic"
that you had never heard about.
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And when you start to dig
into the archives,
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it turned out there was
a $5 million insurance policy,
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uh, that was paid out
after it crashed.
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But it was hard to find more
information about the "Olympic"
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in the midst of all
the other news, uh, of the day.
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Big news.
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You go on the message boards
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to see what other people think,
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but no one wanted
to engage with you.
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โช โช
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And at one point, you notice
that there was a white van
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that was parked outside
of your apartment
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that was there for a few days.
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You eventually found an obscure
book that talked in detail
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about an "Olympic"
conspiracy theory.
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It felt like you were
on to something.
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So you contacted the author,
this guy named Bruce Beveridge.
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He agreed to talk as long
as you drove to meet him
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close to his home, uh,
all the way in Tennessee.
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The switch theory goes that
the "Olympic" was involved
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in a very serious accident,
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and her keel was
permanently damaged
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in September of 1911.
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So the damaged ship was actually
brought out into the open ocean
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as the "Titanic,"
and sunk on purpose.
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The idea was to cash in
on an insurance policy
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and to scuttle the ship.
Unfortunately,
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- the plan went wrong.
- John: Mm.
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Is there anything else
that's inaccurate
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that people don't know about?
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You know, in the James
Cameron movie at the end,
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you see Rose floating
on a piece of lounge panel,
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and she's holding
onto Jack's hand,
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and she's rescued by one boat,
you know,
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that was commanded
by, by Officer Lowe.
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I said,
you know that's fictitious
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in the fact that there was
a 16-year-old girl
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floating out there,
but the piece of wood floating
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- with a passenger on it, that was true.
- John: Hm.
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That was factual, but it wasn't
a 16-year-old girl.
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- It was a Chinese man.
- (dramatic sting)
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John: He also told you about
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a life-size
replica of the "Titanic"
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that also had a museum
inside of it,
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and he absolutely insisted
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that he drive you over there.
In your car.
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Bruce Beveridge: I'm now a
maintenance man which... at a, at a hotel.
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And I do that by choice.
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Because, being
an ex-police officer,
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I should be doing security work
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or being the head of a security
at some college somewhere.
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John: So, is this, like, based
off the "Olympic" or "Titanic"?
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- Oh, no. This is "Titanic."
- John: Oh, okay.
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But the difference, you know,
you can tell
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because it's got
the enclosed A-deck promenade.
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There was a time where I was
gonna move down here
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because I was going
through a divorce,
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and I got a hold of the own...
One of... the curator, Paul.
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I said, "Paul, I'm thinking
about moving
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to, uh, Sevierville
or Pigeon Forge."
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I go, "If I come down here,
can I get a job at the museum?"
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And he told me no. (Laughs)
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-They wouldn't hire me here. I don't know.
-John: Oh, geez.
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- How's it going?
- Good morning.
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It's a reproduction
of the grand staircase.
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You know,
they actually used oak.
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- John: This is a very romantic scene here.
- It is, from the movie.
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John: What does Anne
Frank got to do with this?
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- Bruce: Nothing.
- John: Oh, okay.
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There was damning evidence
everywhere you look.
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But, all the employees
still seem to be in denial.
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Have you heard about the theory
that, like, the "Olympic"
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and the "Titanic" might
have been switched at one point?
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As far as I know,
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- there's no factual proof to that conspiracy theory.
- John: Oh.
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And after the tour,
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you went down
to the souvenir shop.
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I said, look at the money
that's being made
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off of this, off of a tragedy.
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-John: Right. Yeah.
-Bruce: A lot of profit. But, you know,
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is, is it tasteless?
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I know it's been 110 years.
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John: Right.
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You went back to the hotel
after the museum to relax,
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and when you opened your laptop,
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you got a cryptic email
from an anonymous sender
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which made you feel like you
were still on to something.
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The next morning,
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Bruce said that he had
some more to show you.
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So you spent
the afternoon with him.
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- Bruce: Cher?
- John: No, that's Katy Perry.
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- Bruce: Who is this?
- John: This is Tom Hanks.
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(Bruce groans)
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John: Oh, Cameron Diaz.
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- Bruce: She got a great ass.
- John: Yeah.
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Bruce: If what I saw on the
Internet was actually her ass.
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John: Do you think
he did good in "Titanic"?
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No. I think he's a lousy actor,
to be honest with you.
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โช โช
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John: Whoa. No one's
gonna believe I saw this.
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- (monkeys squeaking)
- (John laughs)
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And right there. There we go.
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What are you chewing at?
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- John: They picked your scabs?
- Bruce: Well, either they do it
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or I do it. It doesn't matter.
I pick 'em, too.
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John: You're covered in blood.
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Employee: Welcome to the
Salt and Pepper Shaker Museum!
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John:
Ooh, "beverage." Just like you.
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Nah, spelled differently,
though, isn't it?
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Oh, my God. There's Bozo.
God bless you.
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John: You want any, uh, salt
and pepper shakers, Bruce?
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- Popeye.
- John: You want Popeye?
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If there's a Popeye one in here,
I want Popeye.
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Well, he was my favorite cartoon
since I was a kid,
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but because
of the whole sailor thing.
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I was a sergeant,
was a police sergeant.
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John: You ever see
anything you can't forget?
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Uh-huh. I've seen a lot
of things I can't forget.
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(quiet restaurant chatter)
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Any kind of a death scene
is really kind of traumatic,
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whether it be a suicide
or murder
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or a little kid gets killed,
gets murdered. That's not good.
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But it's... to see
the faces of the dead,
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the dead faces,
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and th-they'll never leave me.
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I can remember every one of 'em.
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You know, I-I've seen people,
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you know, that have
had heart attacks
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on their toilet
in the summertime
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and there, there's no
air conditioning in the house.
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And you go in there
and it's been two weeks.
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John: Yeah.
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Bruce: That's not good.
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John: Um, I-I think
we're good for right now.
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- Okay. Alright.
- John: Thank you.
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- You're welcome.
- Thank you.
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The smell...
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The smell stays in your nose
for two, three, two weeks.
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- Three weeks sometimes.
- John: Oh my...
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Bruce:
Who's your favorite Beatle?
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- John: Who's my favorite Beatle?
- Bruce: Yeah.
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John: I like George.
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What do you think?
What does that mean about me?
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- It means you and I are alike.
- Oh, really?
466
00:21:03,033 --> 00:21:04,066
Yeah.
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John: It seemed like you were
really starting to connect with him,
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and you felt like
he would understand
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if you told him about that stuff
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that you faked for the show.
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But then,
when you were finishing up,
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you checked your phone,
and you saw
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you got another email
from the same address.
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(mysterious music playing)
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You didn't want Bruce to feel
like he was in danger,
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so you asked him to just
drive you to the Best Western,
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uh, to pretend
to take care of something.
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I want my own building,
a large building,
479
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,166
hopefully my own hotel.
I want a big one.
480
00:21:39,233 --> 00:21:42,433
I wanna be in charge of people
because that's what I do.
481
00:21:43,166 --> 00:21:46,033
- John: Yeah.
- And then, I want to retire.
482
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,366
John: Turn right.
483
00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:51,566
-Bruce: Turn right, go this way? Want me to park?
-John: Yeah.
484
00:21:51,633 --> 00:21:55,066
Yeah, yeah. Just park it now,
for, just for a second.
485
00:21:55,166 --> 00:21:58,000
You could tell
he was getting suspicious,
486
00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,433
but while you were waiting,
487
00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,733
there was something
you finally wanted
488
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,066
to get off your chest.
489
00:22:05,133 --> 00:22:08,766
Do you ever have a hard time
knowing what the truth is?
490
00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:12,733
There's a lot of absolute truths
that you would hope
491
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,833
that everyone would agree on,
yeah.
492
00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:18,100
The sky is blue. You know,
493
00:22:18,166 --> 00:22:20,766
anybody who doesn't
agree with that,
494
00:22:20,833 --> 00:22:23,366
you know, has got
some serious issues in the head.
495
00:22:25,133 --> 00:22:27,333
John: Is there a way to,
like, make something up,
496
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,133
and for it to,
like, not be a problem?
497
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,866
(phone ringing)
498
00:22:32,933 --> 00:22:34,666
I don't, I don't understand
what you mean.
499
00:22:34,733 --> 00:22:36,266
Hold on. I'm sorry.
500
00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:38,566
(phone ringing)
501
00:22:38,633 --> 00:22:40,433
- John: Who's that?
- My mother.
502
00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:42,966
-John: Oh, okay. You gotta get it?
-(answers phone)
503
00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:45,800
- Hello?
- Mother (on phone): Hello?
504
00:22:45,866 --> 00:22:47,566
- Yes.
- Mother: What are you doing?
505
00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:50,833
I'm I... right in the middle
of being interviewed.
506
00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:53,166
Mother: Oh, okay. Well, I'll
talk to you later. Gimme a call.
507
00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:56,000
Why don't you call Michelle?
Michelle's got her phone on.
508
00:22:56,066 --> 00:22:58,866
- Mother: Okay.
- Alright. Yeah. Bye-bye.
509
00:22:58,933 --> 00:23:01,000
John: (awkward laugh) It's okay.
510
00:23:02,833 --> 00:23:05,033
I, I don't... I don't know
what you mean by that.
511
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,166
John: Well, it's like, uh...
512
00:23:08,233 --> 00:23:10,966
you know, it's like
I made up, like, uh...
513
00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:12,566
I think I... I-I faked a shot
514
00:23:12,633 --> 00:23:14,700
in one of my documentaries,
you know?
515
00:23:14,766 --> 00:23:17,033
And I told someone
that it was real,
516
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:20,000
and I feel kind of guilty
about it, you know?
517
00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:21,933
But, i-it... I... (stammers)
518
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,066
It feels like kind of
a victimless thing...
519
00:23:24,133 --> 00:23:26,633
Yeah, well, sometimes, you know,
we gotta do stuff like that.
520
00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:28,600
You know, I used to
be a police officer.
521
00:23:28,666 --> 00:23:30,100
I know what that means.
522
00:23:30,166 --> 00:23:31,533
John: How do you mean?
523
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,133
Well, sometimes you gotta
fake some things,
524
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,600
because if you don't,
525
00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:38,100
it could turn into a worse
situation than what you have.
526
00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:40,800
- John: Yeah.
- (foreboding music playing)
527
00:23:40,866 --> 00:23:42,366
See, this was the deal.
528
00:23:42,433 --> 00:23:45,566
If you ever do anything
like that, this is the rule.
529
00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:48,066
And I swear to God,
you need to follow it.
530
00:23:48,133 --> 00:23:51,766
- Never tell anyone.
- John: Mm.
531
00:23:51,833 --> 00:23:53,766
Because, I mean,
you told me about it.
532
00:23:53,833 --> 00:23:55,500
But, I mean, I...
I'm not involved with your life.
533
00:23:55,566 --> 00:23:57,100
I'll probably
never see you again.
534
00:23:57,166 --> 00:23:58,533
- John: Uh-huh.
- So it won't have any effect.
535
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,933
But, you never know.
Because this is the thing.
536
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,566
There's only two people
can keep a secret...
537
00:24:03,633 --> 00:24:05,300
- John: Uh-huh.
- As long as one of 'em is dead.
538
00:24:05,366 --> 00:24:07,466
- (church bell tolls)
- John: Mm-hmm.
539
00:24:07,533 --> 00:24:08,733
And that's a fact.
540
00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,600
- I'm gonna smoke. You mind?
- John: No, no, no. Go ahead.
541
00:24:12,666 --> 00:24:15,200
Stay, stay in here. I'm
gonna get out for one second.
542
00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:21,533
- I'm just gonna go check something out in the motel.
- Okay.
543
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:27,233
John: It seems like even if
you do tell someone the truth,
544
00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:29,933
you may only be left
with one option
545
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,133
if you want your secret
to be safe.
546
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:38,266
You went up to the room that
the email told you about,
547
00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:41,766
and the door was slightly ajar.
548
00:24:41,866 --> 00:24:45,200
You walk in,
but there doesn't seem to be
549
00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:47,866
any signs of life anywhere.
550
00:24:47,933 --> 00:24:51,100
It was really nice
getting to know Bruce,
551
00:24:51,166 --> 00:24:54,233
but it seems like
it was finally time
552
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:56,833
for you to part ways.
553
00:24:57,566 --> 00:25:00,433
You weren't looking forward
to the long drive
554
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,100
back to New York City,
555
00:25:02,166 --> 00:25:04,333
but maybe what you
really need now
556
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,500
is just a little time to your...
557
00:25:07,566 --> 00:25:10,533
- (explosion blasts)
- John: Ah!
558
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,066
Fuck!
559
00:25:12,133 --> 00:25:15,100
(flames crackling)
560
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,233
(dramatic music playing)
561
00:25:22,133 --> 00:25:25,300
(sirens wailing)
562
00:25:28,666 --> 00:25:32,633
(fire truck idling)
563
00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:36,933
Was there anybody
in the vehicle?
564
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,366
John: Um, yeah. My, uh...
565
00:25:39,433 --> 00:25:41,366
my friend Bruce.
566
00:25:41,433 --> 00:25:44,133
Okay. What's Bruce's last name?
567
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,233
- John: Beveridge.
- Beveridge.
568
00:25:47,066 --> 00:25:50,133
(water hissing)
569
00:25:52,933 --> 00:25:54,966
โช โช
570
00:26:15,033 --> 00:26:18,000
(clicking)
571
00:26:21,866 --> 00:26:23,400
(presses pedal)
572
00:26:24,566 --> 00:26:27,600
(playing soft melody)
573
00:26:38,666 --> 00:26:41,966
John: There are times
when you may know the truth
574
00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:45,000
but the world might not
be ready for it.
575
00:26:45,066 --> 00:26:47,466
(piano music continues)
576
00:26:47,533 --> 00:26:50,500
It may be painful
trying to keep it a secret...
577
00:26:50,566 --> 00:26:52,033
(lever clicking)
578
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:54,900
John: ...but at the end of
the day, it'll all be worth it.
579
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,200
Oh...
580
00:26:57,266 --> 00:26:58,733
Oh, God.
581
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,100
(water splashing)
582
00:27:01,166 --> 00:27:03,533
John: Oh, no...
583
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,466
Oh!
584
00:27:05,533 --> 00:27:09,900
Because the world
needs its illusions.
585
00:27:09,966 --> 00:27:13,666
And who are you to take
that away from them?
586
00:27:16,966 --> 00:27:20,866
So the next time something
seems too good to be true...
587
00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:24,466
just enjoy that
you live in a world
588
00:27:24,533 --> 00:27:28,066
where something like that
is possible.
589
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,100
(piano melody ends)
590
00:27:31,166 --> 00:27:34,700
This is John Wilson.
Thanks for watching.
591
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600
(classical music playing)
592
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,500
โช โช
593
00:28:25,433 --> 00:28:26,433
(music fades)46674
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