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Nice dog. 7 00:00:26,593 --> 00:00:28,928 For the first several months of life, 8 00:00:28,995 --> 00:00:31,965 infants are slaves to gravity. 9 00:00:32,032 --> 00:00:35,468 They're just stuck in whatever place somebody put them in. 10 00:00:40,507 --> 00:00:44,077 And then this remarkable transformation happens 11 00:00:44,411 --> 00:00:46,379 when babies learn to crawl. 12 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:54,921 Wee! 13 00:00:55,522 --> 00:00:59,192 Now they can move their own body from one place to another, 14 00:00:59,259 --> 00:01:03,096 and now the whole wider world is opened up to them. 15 00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:04,764 Hey, bubba. Hi! 16 00:01:05,398 --> 00:01:06,933 Hey! 17 00:01:07,434 --> 00:01:08,268 Hey! 18 00:01:08,334 --> 00:01:11,571 But how is it that babies learn to crawl, 19 00:01:11,638 --> 00:01:13,740 and what do they learn 20 00:01:13,807 --> 00:01:15,708 when they're crawling around in the world? 21 00:01:21,047 --> 00:01:21,881 You can do it. 22 00:01:21,948 --> 00:01:23,388 In the first year of life, 23 00:01:23,450 --> 00:01:25,718 babies are growing faster than they ever will. 24 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:28,388 Come on, you can do it! 25 00:01:28,455 --> 00:01:31,324 The baby can wake up in a different body 26 00:01:31,391 --> 00:01:32,659 than they went to sleep in. 27 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:35,995 It's longer. The arms are longer, the legs are longer, 28 00:01:36,062 --> 00:01:39,833 and as they begin to move, they cannot do 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,368 exactly what they could do yesterday 30 00:01:42,902 --> 00:01:44,137 with the same precision. 31 00:01:44,304 --> 00:01:47,407 You can! Call him here! 32 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:50,677 What does this mean for a baby who's learning to crawl? 33 00:01:55,682 --> 00:01:56,983 For decades, 34 00:01:57,050 --> 00:02:01,955 we really believed that crawling was just a stage toward walking, 35 00:02:02,021 --> 00:02:05,058 but could crawling be more than a stage? 36 00:02:06,025 --> 00:02:07,927 Could crawling be fundamental 37 00:02:08,695 --> 00:02:10,230 to the way we all move? 38 00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:38,790 Ready? 39 00:02:40,026 --> 00:02:41,026 Who is that? 40 00:02:41,961 --> 00:02:43,263 Take a video for Mum. 41 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:45,598 Now that Amelia's back at work, 42 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:49,469 I kick into my primary carer role in earnest. 43 00:02:49,769 --> 00:02:51,271 Look, who is that? Who's that? 44 00:02:51,671 --> 00:02:52,671 Is that Pascoe? 45 00:02:53,339 --> 00:02:55,008 There's Dad, there's Pascoe. 46 00:02:55,074 --> 00:02:57,043 Which I'm really excited about, 47 00:02:57,443 --> 00:03:00,313 just because it's great time I get to spend with Pascoe. 48 00:03:03,383 --> 00:03:06,252 And we're gonna get back to practicing some tummy time, 49 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:07,987 see how he's doing with crawling. 50 00:03:08,788 --> 00:03:10,423 Ready? Who's this here? 51 00:03:11,591 --> 00:03:14,003 When Rich starts telling me, "Oh, we did this today," 52 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:16,429 and, "Oh, Pascoe started crawling today," 53 00:03:16,496 --> 00:03:17,697 or "He did this move..." 54 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:20,400 Get your arms going. That's it. That's it. 55 00:03:20,466 --> 00:03:21,334 Who's there? 56 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:23,803 And I'm sort of sat at work, just at my laptop... 57 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:24,870 Good boy. 58 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:27,640 You know, I feel like I'm missing out on quite a bit. 59 00:03:27,707 --> 00:03:28,707 Good! 60 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:31,210 Oh. 61 00:03:31,644 --> 00:03:32,712 Hey! 62 00:03:32,779 --> 00:03:35,615 I think also as a first-time mum you're quite keen to sort of 63 00:03:35,682 --> 00:03:38,718 tick off all the milestones, and you sort of read the books 64 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:40,763 that say, "At this stage your baby will be doing this," 65 00:03:40,787 --> 00:03:42,331 and you're like, "My baby's not doing that," 66 00:03:42,355 --> 00:03:44,757 or "My baby did that two months ago. Is he too early?" 67 00:03:47,794 --> 00:03:49,329 Good, he's got it! 68 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:50,630 First past the post. 69 00:03:52,398 --> 00:03:55,235 Oh, and you even pressed stop on the video. Good boy. 70 00:03:55,668 --> 00:03:56,970 You know how it works. 71 00:03:57,036 --> 00:03:58,204 You know how it works. 72 00:04:00,173 --> 00:04:01,307 You know how it works. 73 00:04:10,617 --> 00:04:16,189 My career is not a straightforward, I would say, uh, trail. 74 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:17,723 Not at all. 75 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,463 I started to be a nuclear physicist. 76 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:28,101 I was studying the movement of electrons and atoms. 77 00:04:30,003 --> 00:04:31,904 And then, as a biologist, 78 00:04:31,971 --> 00:04:36,342 I switched to be more interested with the movement of the body. 79 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:40,546 All of the steps gave me an open mind... 80 00:04:41,681 --> 00:04:44,884 to different ideas that you can have about movement. 81 00:04:48,254 --> 00:04:50,623 Many people thought for a long time 82 00:04:50,690 --> 00:04:54,761 that crawling emerged only around eight, ten months, 83 00:04:55,094 --> 00:04:57,997 and is a transitory step toward walking. 84 00:05:02,902 --> 00:05:05,638 However, it is maybe more mysterious. 85 00:05:09,475 --> 00:05:14,380 I think for me the question was, "Could crawling be more than a stage? 86 00:05:16,382 --> 00:05:20,053 Could crawling be crucial to the way 87 00:05:20,119 --> 00:05:21,888 all humans move around?" 88 00:05:27,860 --> 00:05:29,996 What can I get for you? 89 00:05:30,596 --> 00:05:32,498 I'll have a coffee. 90 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:35,034 - That's alright. - Thank you. 91 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:39,238 In the womb, fetuses are able to move 92 00:05:39,305 --> 00:05:41,507 from one place to another place if they want, 93 00:05:42,008 --> 00:05:45,378 and you have to imagine a newborn as an astronaut 94 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:47,480 coming back from the moon, 95 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,250 where it was able to do a lot of movements freely 96 00:05:51,317 --> 00:05:54,320 and now is stuck with the gravity. 97 00:05:57,357 --> 00:06:01,194 But there are specific times or occasions 98 00:06:01,661 --> 00:06:06,499 where you can see a newborn moving his body from one place to another. 99 00:06:09,602 --> 00:06:12,505 Around one hour after birth, 100 00:06:12,572 --> 00:06:16,175 if the baby is skin to skin on the belly of the mother, 101 00:06:16,576 --> 00:06:22,482 you will see the newborn moving slowly to the breast of the mother. 102 00:06:27,954 --> 00:06:29,655 And this is a fantastic behavior. 103 00:06:29,722 --> 00:06:33,092 I love it, I saw it a lot. Many, many times. 104 00:06:42,034 --> 00:06:45,538 So another occasion is to put the newborn in the water. 105 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:50,777 The first time that I saw that, I was just, uh, shocked. 106 00:06:51,978 --> 00:06:53,212 I said, "My God, 107 00:06:53,846 --> 00:06:57,083 these newborns are able to do a lot of things, 108 00:06:57,150 --> 00:07:01,687 and they are already able literally to crawl in the water." 109 00:07:06,726 --> 00:07:11,664 And so it is where I get very interested with this movement, 110 00:07:12,131 --> 00:07:13,599 and starting to ask, 111 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:17,737 "Is this crawling that is already here 112 00:07:18,471 --> 00:07:23,443 really disappear to reemerge eight or ten months later 113 00:07:23,509 --> 00:07:25,812 for the baby to learn how to do that on land, 114 00:07:26,913 --> 00:07:29,916 or is there a link between these two behaviors, 115 00:07:30,316 --> 00:07:32,351 the newborn and the older baby?" 116 00:07:36,155 --> 00:07:39,358 People believe that newborn movements 117 00:07:39,425 --> 00:07:43,563 are only reflexes that will disappear very soon after birth. 118 00:07:44,797 --> 00:07:47,900 And so they have nothing to do 119 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:53,372 with a connection coming from the brain to control the movement. 120 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:57,176 But with that newborn, crawling was so beautiful, 121 00:07:57,777 --> 00:07:59,912 it's not really an automatic system. 122 00:07:59,979 --> 00:08:01,047 It could not be. 123 00:08:04,851 --> 00:08:08,921 This is why we thought of a very crazy experiment. 124 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:14,627 So the question we asked was relatively simple... 125 00:08:15,695 --> 00:08:18,698 Was the crawling that we saw in the newborn 126 00:08:19,065 --> 00:08:22,301 already controlled with something in the brain? 127 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:30,510 And one of the stimuluses of the brain, one of the most important systems 128 00:08:30,576 --> 00:08:35,414 that controls the crawling at seven, eight months, 129 00:08:35,948 --> 00:08:36,948 is the vision. 130 00:08:44,223 --> 00:08:46,001 Hello, have you had a good journey? 131 00:08:46,025 --> 00:08:46,859 Yes, very good. 132 00:08:46,926 --> 00:08:49,729 Look how he's grown! 133 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:52,598 So knowing the importance of vision, 134 00:08:52,665 --> 00:08:56,002 we were wondering, and this was really our big question, 135 00:08:56,802 --> 00:08:58,704 what will happen to a newborn 136 00:08:58,771 --> 00:09:00,873 if we give them the illusion 137 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,042 that they are moving around? 138 00:09:04,777 --> 00:09:05,778 Voilà. 139 00:09:05,978 --> 00:09:08,281 Will they move? Will they not move? 140 00:09:10,816 --> 00:09:12,919 Let's not forget his little hat. 141 00:09:12,985 --> 00:09:14,954 The hat of an astronaut. 142 00:09:15,955 --> 00:09:17,056 Hop là. 143 00:09:17,690 --> 00:09:19,530 There you go. Ready to go to space. 144 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,596 Exactly. We're going to send him into space. 145 00:09:25,932 --> 00:09:29,769 What we have done is to imagine black dots 146 00:09:30,436 --> 00:09:34,407 that are moving on a pattern that is completely white. 147 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:38,611 So to get the impression of moving, 148 00:09:38,878 --> 00:09:41,747 you have to have all the dots moving, 149 00:09:41,814 --> 00:09:43,182 and in the same direction. 150 00:09:59,665 --> 00:10:01,167 As soon as they see, 151 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,638 they move their legs and their arms, and literally swimming. 152 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:07,974 Swimming in the air. 153 00:10:10,376 --> 00:10:12,445 We were just shocked when we saw that. 154 00:10:19,485 --> 00:10:20,653 We had this idea, 155 00:10:21,387 --> 00:10:25,625 but we were not completely sure that we will get this, you know, result. 156 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:27,927 We were very surprised. 157 00:10:32,798 --> 00:10:35,401 Hello, little girl. 158 00:10:35,768 --> 00:10:36,802 Hop là. 159 00:10:38,204 --> 00:10:39,205 Hop là. 160 00:10:41,874 --> 00:10:45,277 This, for us, was really something incredible 161 00:10:45,344 --> 00:10:48,681 because that means that they have this primitive link 162 00:10:48,814 --> 00:10:51,450 between the brain and the spine, 163 00:10:51,917 --> 00:10:55,688 and the vision, and the motoring activity to say, 164 00:10:55,755 --> 00:11:00,459 "Hello, I see something and I am moving according to what I see." 165 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:06,032 And this was, for us, really the first evidence 166 00:11:06,432 --> 00:11:09,635 that this crawling pattern that you see at birth 167 00:11:09,702 --> 00:11:11,303 is coming from the brain. 168 00:11:12,104 --> 00:11:18,177 What we have here is an extension of the leg at the same time 169 00:11:18,244 --> 00:11:20,746 as movement of the elbow and arm. 170 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,449 Now, having seen this baby 171 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:27,753 just swimming literally in air with arms and legs, 172 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:29,455 this definitely shows 173 00:11:30,456 --> 00:11:34,994 that this crawling pattern that a lot of people believe was just a reflex 174 00:11:35,494 --> 00:11:37,363 is not a reflex. 175 00:11:37,897 --> 00:11:39,365 It's wonderful. 176 00:11:42,134 --> 00:11:43,736 Let's take your hat off for a minute. 177 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:45,704 Voilà. 178 00:11:46,138 --> 00:11:48,541 Look at Mom and Dad. 179 00:11:53,979 --> 00:11:59,885 We started to think of how to study and analyze the same kind of movement... 180 00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:02,621 if we put them on land. 181 00:12:04,623 --> 00:12:11,097 We knew thatit's very difficult for babies to propel themselves, 182 00:12:11,163 --> 00:12:16,268 because the head is very heavy, it's one third of the weight of the body. 183 00:12:18,604 --> 00:12:22,675 So they are not able to support that in the gravity. 184 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:25,878 Oh! 185 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:28,581 - Can I come in? - Yes. 186 00:12:30,649 --> 00:12:31,893 - Hello. - Hello. 187 00:12:31,917 --> 00:12:33,018 Ah! 188 00:12:33,119 --> 00:12:35,421 So, Hello little Helmi... 189 00:12:35,855 --> 00:12:38,157 So now we start about thinking 190 00:12:38,924 --> 00:12:41,560 how to make the baby free to move around, 191 00:12:42,495 --> 00:12:45,698 and how to find a tool finally 192 00:12:46,165 --> 00:12:48,167 for them to be not crushed 193 00:12:48,801 --> 00:12:52,037 by the gravity and having their arms and legs free to move. 194 00:12:52,438 --> 00:12:56,108 Would you like to participate in this experiment 195 00:12:56,175 --> 00:12:57,843 which will last around ten minutes 196 00:12:57,910 --> 00:13:02,348 and a little longer to get Helmi downstairs? 197 00:13:02,882 --> 00:13:03,783 Let's go. 198 00:13:03,849 --> 00:13:05,727 So we were thinking a lot 199 00:13:05,751 --> 00:13:07,486 about how to construct such a tool. 200 00:13:08,187 --> 00:13:10,055 We thought it will be easy to do it. 201 00:13:10,122 --> 00:13:13,559 But not at all. It took us, like, one or two years 202 00:13:14,026 --> 00:13:15,861 to build this kind of tool. 203 00:13:16,562 --> 00:13:17,396 - Hello. - Hello. 204 00:13:17,463 --> 00:13:20,332 So we started to test our first baby 205 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:23,903 on this mini skateboard in 2016, 206 00:13:24,670 --> 00:13:28,107 and, uh, we call the final version 207 00:13:28,174 --> 00:13:29,241 "the Crawlerskate." 208 00:13:37,716 --> 00:13:40,052 He's looking now. 209 00:13:40,853 --> 00:13:44,557 They are comfortable, that sometimes triggers it. 210 00:13:44,623 --> 00:13:45,791 They do whatever they want. 211 00:13:45,858 --> 00:13:48,060 We explain what is the Crawlerskate, 212 00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:49,829 and all the time they are very interested 213 00:13:49,895 --> 00:13:53,666 because they think their newborn cannot at all crawl. 214 00:14:03,409 --> 00:14:04,643 Hop, hop, hop! 215 00:14:07,446 --> 00:14:08,446 Ah. 216 00:14:36,375 --> 00:14:41,747 Some babies are making a huge movement, even crossed the mattress 217 00:14:42,748 --> 00:14:44,450 once or two or three times. 218 00:14:44,516 --> 00:14:46,252 It seemed really incredible. 219 00:14:46,352 --> 00:14:47,286 Wow! 220 00:14:47,353 --> 00:14:49,521 Bravo! Bravo! 221 00:14:50,422 --> 00:14:52,258 Bravo, Helmi. 222 00:14:52,324 --> 00:14:54,627 We were just shocked to see 223 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,396 that these little two days newborn babies 224 00:14:57,463 --> 00:15:00,332 were able to do that on our Crawlerskate. 225 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:04,770 I find it emotional every time they move like that. Huh? 226 00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:06,906 Too good. 227 00:15:07,239 --> 00:15:10,609 It was really a very emotional moment, I can tell you. 228 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:13,746 Not only for us, but for the parents. 229 00:15:13,979 --> 00:15:15,080 Hop là. 230 00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:18,450 If we look at the results that we obtained with the Crawlerskate, 231 00:15:18,617 --> 00:15:22,087 what that suggests is that the nervous system 232 00:15:22,488 --> 00:15:27,192 that is important for the baby to move their arms and legs 233 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,361 and crawl 234 00:15:29,995 --> 00:15:32,031 and to propel themselves 235 00:15:32,431 --> 00:15:33,632 is already in place. 236 00:15:34,166 --> 00:15:36,936 - Thank you very much. Goodbye. - See you later. Goodbye. 237 00:15:38,203 --> 00:15:40,940 So what we have found 238 00:15:41,006 --> 00:15:42,006 is very new, 239 00:15:42,641 --> 00:15:43,976 and controversial. 240 00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:46,912 Because for decades, 241 00:15:47,379 --> 00:15:50,015 people believed that we were born as bipeds. 242 00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:54,787 That means that we are walking only with our two legs. 243 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:03,963 But what we have found is a completely different picture. 244 00:16:12,905 --> 00:16:16,408 We believe now that we are born 245 00:16:16,775 --> 00:16:18,677 moving arms and legs... 246 00:16:19,645 --> 00:16:20,713 as quadrupeds. 247 00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:30,389 If you look at adult walking, 248 00:16:30,456 --> 00:16:34,226 it seems to be automatic to move our arms when we are walking. 249 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:43,635 But in fact we can do much more than that. 250 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:55,180 We are still quadrupeds inside us, 251 00:16:55,581 --> 00:16:57,116 in the nervous system. 252 00:17:00,786 --> 00:17:02,921 So is crawling 253 00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:05,190 just a transitory stage? 254 00:17:07,292 --> 00:17:09,228 I think now, no. 255 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:13,065 Wake up now. 256 00:17:13,132 --> 00:17:14,767 We need you today. 257 00:17:15,467 --> 00:17:17,936 In fact, if you see the baby as a car, 258 00:17:18,637 --> 00:17:22,741 the engine is, like, sleeping and waiting 259 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:25,844 for the bodywork to be ready, 260 00:17:26,645 --> 00:17:31,984 for the moment where the baby will be strong enough, with strong muscles, 261 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:33,919 to take care of the weight 262 00:17:34,686 --> 00:17:36,722 and to be motivated to move it. 263 00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:42,828 For that, the baby will have to grow. 264 00:17:43,529 --> 00:17:46,598 And this is another story of how the baby grows up... 265 00:17:46,665 --> 00:17:47,599 Hey! 266 00:17:47,666 --> 00:17:50,669 ...and changes the body with maturation and experience. 267 00:17:53,038 --> 00:17:54,206 Mwah! 268 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:55,740 Hey! 269 00:18:06,752 --> 00:18:08,187 What a yawn! 270 00:18:08,887 --> 00:18:09,887 Good boy. 271 00:18:10,689 --> 00:18:13,058 All right, should we see if he can do the crawl? 272 00:18:13,692 --> 00:18:14,927 Come on. Oh. 273 00:18:14,993 --> 00:18:16,495 A bit of a... A bit of a bump. 274 00:18:16,562 --> 00:18:19,665 Oh, there's a push. There's a push. 275 00:18:19,965 --> 00:18:21,567 Use those legs. 276 00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:23,902 Come on. Good boy. 277 00:18:25,204 --> 00:18:26,305 Good boy. 278 00:18:27,706 --> 00:18:29,141 Oh, oh... 279 00:18:30,676 --> 00:18:32,010 That's it. 280 00:18:34,246 --> 00:18:35,814 You little champion! 281 00:18:38,817 --> 00:18:39,885 Push up. 282 00:18:42,354 --> 00:18:43,355 Good boy. 283 00:18:45,757 --> 00:18:46,792 Oh, hello. 284 00:18:47,693 --> 00:18:48,894 Very good. 285 00:18:49,194 --> 00:18:50,194 Good boy. 286 00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:53,298 Lift yourself up. 287 00:18:53,398 --> 00:18:55,868 Wahey! Look at that! 288 00:18:57,002 --> 00:18:58,103 Right, just... 289 00:18:59,872 --> 00:19:02,641 getting a bit happier staying on his front. 290 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,610 There, you've got that the play with. 291 00:19:04,843 --> 00:19:08,347 Pascoe does seem a little bit unsettled during the day. 292 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:11,283 Probably he's just going through a bit of a growth spurt, 293 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:13,485 or a developmental spurt. 294 00:19:13,552 --> 00:19:16,088 He seems to just be getting longer and longer, 295 00:19:16,388 --> 00:19:17,689 and stronger and stronger. 296 00:19:19,024 --> 00:19:20,159 You can do it. 297 00:19:20,692 --> 00:19:21,692 That's it. 298 00:19:21,727 --> 00:19:24,062 He's got the legs going. The legs are pumping. 299 00:19:24,129 --> 00:19:26,165 He's getting bigger, that's for sure. 300 00:19:26,231 --> 00:19:27,833 He's got some good power in his legs 301 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:30,469 and I think he's starting to feel that in his feet. 302 00:19:30,602 --> 00:19:31,602 Okay. 303 00:19:33,305 --> 00:19:35,040 - Good work, buddy. - See? 304 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,344 I think we thought that he would be crawling by now, so... 305 00:19:39,611 --> 00:19:41,613 You can start crawling if you'd like. 306 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,115 Would you like to start crawling? 307 00:19:54,593 --> 00:19:56,328 I started out in anthropology 308 00:19:56,395 --> 00:20:00,699 with an interest in the interaction that babies had with their families. 309 00:20:02,668 --> 00:20:04,836 Every parent experiences 310 00:20:04,903 --> 00:20:06,238 how disruptive 311 00:20:06,638 --> 00:20:07,973 babies can be. 312 00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:12,110 They're sleeping, and then there's no way they will go to sleep. 313 00:20:12,578 --> 00:20:14,446 There are times when they're not very hungry, 314 00:20:14,513 --> 00:20:16,782 and times when they become very hungry. 315 00:20:16,848 --> 00:20:21,186 Or out of nowhere they become kind of morphed, 316 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:23,222 and parents will say, 317 00:20:23,288 --> 00:20:28,594 "Who's this monster who yesterday was such a good little girl?" 318 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:35,400 It occurred to me that knowing something about growing 319 00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:37,269 would be informative here. 320 00:20:40,005 --> 00:20:44,977 In 1979, my neighbor was about to have a baby, 321 00:20:45,811 --> 00:20:48,013 and I suggested to her at some point, 322 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,117 would you mind if we measured your baby? 323 00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:54,853 She was very kind and she said, "Yes, of course." 324 00:20:57,422 --> 00:20:59,062 - Good morning. - Good morning. 325 00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:04,296 Okay, should be see how long you are? 326 00:21:06,131 --> 00:21:08,834 Measuring a baby's length is a two-person job. 327 00:21:09,234 --> 00:21:12,337 Are you ready? Set? Measure! 328 00:21:12,404 --> 00:21:13,839 Whoopsie! 329 00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:16,139 You have somebody who can focus the attention 330 00:21:16,174 --> 00:21:19,144 of the infant correctly, and then you need somebody 331 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:20,846 to actually stretch the baby out. 332 00:21:21,913 --> 00:21:22,913 Good job. 333 00:21:23,081 --> 00:21:25,117 Excellent, Aspen. Thank you so much! 334 00:21:25,183 --> 00:21:26,818 Very good job! 335 00:21:28,053 --> 00:21:29,054 Yeah! 336 00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:32,391 I very clearly remember that I was 337 00:21:32,924 --> 00:21:35,594 a little concerned about doing it, but we did it. 338 00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:39,531 And I wrote the measurement down, it was 62.7 centimeters. 339 00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:43,669 The next day I come back... 340 00:21:44,369 --> 00:21:46,171 and we go through the process again, 341 00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:48,373 take the measurement. 342 00:21:49,675 --> 00:21:51,443 It was very different. 343 00:21:52,844 --> 00:21:53,844 Sixty-four point five. 344 00:21:54,746 --> 00:21:56,615 I thought, that can't be, 345 00:21:56,682 --> 00:22:01,186 because yesterday it was 62.7 centimeters, 346 00:22:01,253 --> 00:22:04,256 but today it's 64.5 centimeters. 347 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:07,926 My first reaction was, "Well, I'm really terrible at this. 348 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:10,562 I mean, I'm terrible at this. Because that's way too much." 349 00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:15,667 I came back several more times. 350 00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:20,205 And each time we measured the baby, 351 00:22:21,139 --> 00:22:24,409 the length of the baby was 64.5 centimeters. 352 00:22:24,476 --> 00:22:26,411 Now I was actually quite unnerved, 353 00:22:26,878 --> 00:22:28,714 because there was no growth. 354 00:22:30,215 --> 00:22:31,983 I've just taken five measurements, 355 00:22:32,317 --> 00:22:35,187 none of which are what you would expect to see. 356 00:22:35,587 --> 00:22:37,756 One is too much, and then there's no growth at all, 357 00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:38,990 and that's not possible. 358 00:22:39,925 --> 00:22:41,793 How much of my data reflect the fact 359 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,595 that I don't know what I'm doing 360 00:22:44,429 --> 00:22:46,231 because I'm new, and I'm a novice? 361 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:48,700 And how much of this might be... 362 00:22:49,501 --> 00:22:51,470 um, a moment of... 363 00:22:52,504 --> 00:22:53,504 "Who knew?" 364 00:22:54,406 --> 00:22:57,376 And that's where I began. 365 00:23:06,451 --> 00:23:07,451 Hey, bubba. 366 00:23:08,653 --> 00:23:09,755 Hey, Mateo. 367 00:23:11,790 --> 00:23:13,792 Yeah, you're smiling now. 368 00:23:13,859 --> 00:23:16,461 Your sleep has been more difficult lately, hasn't it? 369 00:23:16,828 --> 00:23:18,730 And Mama is very tired. 370 00:23:19,498 --> 00:23:21,066 What else is going on with you? 371 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,101 He's going through a growth spurt, 372 00:23:23,769 --> 00:23:26,938 and there have been moments where... 373 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,909 Mateo has just, like, randomly 374 00:23:31,376 --> 00:23:34,112 just burst out into hysterical crying, 375 00:23:34,579 --> 00:23:36,848 and there's been no particular reason for it. 376 00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:40,419 Yeah, you're lucky you're so cute. 377 00:23:40,485 --> 00:23:43,155 Yeah, you're lucky you're so cute and that I love you. 378 00:23:43,221 --> 00:23:44,756 'Cause you've been a handful. 379 00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:45,924 Yes, you have. 380 00:23:46,925 --> 00:23:47,826 Yes, you have. 381 00:23:47,893 --> 00:23:49,995 You've been more difficult with your naps. 382 00:23:50,228 --> 00:23:51,228 Yes. 383 00:23:51,596 --> 00:23:53,632 You don't want to sit down for too long. 384 00:23:53,698 --> 00:23:56,368 Yeah, you want to pull yourself up. 385 00:23:57,903 --> 00:23:59,137 Yes, you do. 386 00:24:03,074 --> 00:24:04,576 Oh, don't get upset. 387 00:24:05,343 --> 00:24:06,611 Don't get upset. 388 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:11,149 Yeah, I know you don't like to lay down. 389 00:24:11,216 --> 00:24:12,717 Okay, it's okay. 390 00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:14,920 He's definitely taking more attention now. 391 00:24:14,986 --> 00:24:16,521 He wants more attention now. 392 00:24:17,422 --> 00:24:20,091 Which is harder to get things done in the house. 393 00:24:21,059 --> 00:24:22,127 Mateo. 394 00:24:32,537 --> 00:24:35,607 We used to think that babies grew every day. 395 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:38,643 Little by little. Slowly, very slowly. 396 00:24:39,211 --> 00:24:41,680 That it was a kind of background noise of life. 397 00:24:43,715 --> 00:24:46,618 There's a growth chart in every pediatrician's office, 398 00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:50,989 so every parent has seen their child's size 399 00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:52,591 plotted on a growth chart. 400 00:24:53,458 --> 00:24:58,997 These particular charts show the size of 882 children 401 00:24:59,798 --> 00:25:02,234 that were measured at ages one week, 402 00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:05,003 two weeks, four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks, 403 00:25:05,303 --> 00:25:08,106 and then monthly thereafter until one year of age. 404 00:25:09,174 --> 00:25:11,643 When we look at a growth chart, we see a curve. 405 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:14,713 But the curves are actually 406 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,449 a result of a connect-the-dots process. 407 00:25:18,383 --> 00:25:22,754 There were no measurements between these two specific time points. 408 00:25:23,221 --> 00:25:25,223 But it creates the visual image 409 00:25:25,957 --> 00:25:27,058 of how growth occurs. 410 00:25:27,459 --> 00:25:29,594 Very slowly and continuously through time. 411 00:25:34,299 --> 00:25:35,934 Is it actually continuous, 412 00:25:36,334 --> 00:25:37,334 little by little, 413 00:25:37,969 --> 00:25:40,338 every day, as we all assume it is? 414 00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:54,386 I set out to measure 30 babies, 415 00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:59,224 because 30 babies would be a reasonable scientific size. 416 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,594 Also, when I started measuring babies, 417 00:26:02,661 --> 00:26:05,597 I asked parents to please keep a record 418 00:26:05,664 --> 00:26:07,032 of their baby's behavior 419 00:26:07,766 --> 00:26:09,768 on a day-to-day basis. 420 00:26:11,803 --> 00:26:14,739 These notebooks are the original data. 421 00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:18,843 This was a typical day in my life. 422 00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:21,479 On the 23rd of August in 1981, 423 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,682 I visited 12 children. 424 00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,217 And for each of them, 425 00:26:26,651 --> 00:26:28,687 I measured at least 426 00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,655 their head and their length. 427 00:26:32,190 --> 00:26:34,960 I met the first family at 7:20 in the morning, 428 00:26:35,026 --> 00:26:36,861 I remember that quite precisely. 429 00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:39,497 And I saw the last person on this page... 430 00:26:40,131 --> 00:26:42,567 Um, I left their house at 10 p.m. 431 00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:46,838 It looks simple, but that's what it took to do the measurements. 432 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,678 I noticed that babies who were measured once a week 433 00:26:54,179 --> 00:26:56,915 did grow in the course of a week. 434 00:26:57,415 --> 00:26:59,951 This led me to wonder, did it really take a whole week 435 00:27:00,251 --> 00:27:02,287 for that growth to occur? 436 00:27:03,121 --> 00:27:05,590 I decided to measure them twice weekly, 437 00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:09,194 and I noticed that babies grew in half a week. 438 00:27:09,260 --> 00:27:10,395 And I thought, 439 00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:15,166 does it really take them one half of a week to grow? 440 00:27:18,503 --> 00:27:23,074 And that moment is when I first started measuring babies daily. 441 00:27:24,976 --> 00:27:27,912 Scientifically, it was a remarkable experience, 442 00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:30,815 because I did not know what we would find. 443 00:27:33,218 --> 00:27:35,887 On the 19th of February in 1986... 444 00:27:37,188 --> 00:27:39,991 this child was 59.8 centimeters. 445 00:27:40,058 --> 00:27:41,159 Next day, 446 00:27:41,226 --> 00:27:45,997 the length measurement for this child was 59.8 centimeters. 447 00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:51,269 The following day, the child was 59.8 centimeters. 448 00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:54,105 Uh, and one day later, 449 00:27:54,572 --> 00:27:58,677 the child was 60.8 centimeters. 450 00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:01,079 So in this one day, 451 00:28:01,146 --> 00:28:03,415 the child was one centimeter longer. 452 00:28:05,283 --> 00:28:07,686 Among the babies I measured every day, 453 00:28:07,752 --> 00:28:12,791 their growth varied between one half of a centimeter 454 00:28:13,158 --> 00:28:16,795 and 1.65 centimeters 455 00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:18,663 in one 24-hour period. 456 00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:19,730 In one day, 457 00:28:20,165 --> 00:28:21,165 they grew. 458 00:28:21,299 --> 00:28:26,137 And these growth days were separated from one another... 459 00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:28,740 in an individual 460 00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:32,343 by two to twenty-eight days of no growth. 461 00:28:32,744 --> 00:28:34,345 And then these bursts, 462 00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:35,513 these spurts, 463 00:28:36,247 --> 00:28:37,247 occurred. 464 00:28:40,418 --> 00:28:41,553 From these records 465 00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:45,123 I was also able to identify a clear link 466 00:28:45,523 --> 00:28:47,492 between the times during which 467 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,794 they were having a growth spurt 468 00:28:50,095 --> 00:28:53,498 and dramatic changes in babies' behavior. 469 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:55,567 Changes in their sleeping behavior, 470 00:28:56,034 --> 00:28:57,068 tantrums, 471 00:28:57,502 --> 00:29:00,371 and times of insatiable hunger. 472 00:29:02,941 --> 00:29:03,775 Wow. 473 00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:06,678 I was thinking, this is a very big thing. 474 00:29:07,045 --> 00:29:08,045 I was shocked. 475 00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:09,413 I was awed. 476 00:29:09,781 --> 00:29:12,851 I thought this was remarkable, and it was a moment of... 477 00:29:14,452 --> 00:29:17,255 It was a moment of, I have no idea how this happens, 478 00:29:17,322 --> 00:29:18,990 but these are the data. 479 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:25,663 So what we used to think is that growth 480 00:29:26,164 --> 00:29:27,732 happened in a curve. 481 00:29:31,569 --> 00:29:33,538 And what we now can see 482 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:36,074 is that growth happens in jumps 483 00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:39,277 that separate times of no growth. 484 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,814 Two very distinctive phases. 485 00:29:44,649 --> 00:29:47,552 And the reason that we can see this now 486 00:29:47,986 --> 00:29:50,421 is because of the increased frequency 487 00:29:50,989 --> 00:29:52,390 in the measurements themselves. 488 00:29:59,964 --> 00:30:01,804 The day that the paper was published 489 00:30:01,833 --> 00:30:05,470 it was on the front page of The New York Times, 490 00:30:05,537 --> 00:30:07,005 The Washington Post, 491 00:30:07,071 --> 00:30:11,009 and it hit a number of media outlets. 492 00:30:11,075 --> 00:30:13,344 There was a genuine interest. 493 00:30:13,978 --> 00:30:15,580 This is remarkable. 494 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:18,917 Isn't it exciting that we now know this about children? 495 00:30:20,585 --> 00:30:21,886 What I did not expect... 496 00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:26,324 was the reaction from the scientific community. 497 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,129 I was invited to a conference. 498 00:30:31,796 --> 00:30:33,765 And I had a few very nice, 499 00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:35,266 very sensible questions. 500 00:30:36,067 --> 00:30:37,067 And then... 501 00:30:38,403 --> 00:30:41,606 a leading figure in the field stood up 502 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:44,776 and started by mocking the data, 503 00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:47,612 that this can't be, we all know this can't be, 504 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,347 because look at the growth curve. 505 00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:52,650 That this wasn't credible, 506 00:30:52,717 --> 00:30:55,053 that it stretched their imagination, 507 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:58,556 that babies could grow so much in one day, 508 00:30:58,623 --> 00:31:00,225 it simply wasn't possible. 509 00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,328 I was not prepared 510 00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:05,630 for that level of... 511 00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:09,067 rancor, at all. 512 00:31:09,601 --> 00:31:10,869 Just not at all. 513 00:31:13,638 --> 00:31:16,207 But I think it's an example of 514 00:31:16,274 --> 00:31:19,544 when one has a model in one's mind, 515 00:31:19,611 --> 00:31:21,746 a model of how things work. 516 00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:23,481 This is classic in science, 517 00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:26,417 and somebody comes and says, "Well, wait a minute. 518 00:31:26,484 --> 00:31:27,886 Let's consider this." 519 00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:30,755 The reaction to that is very frequently a kind of... 520 00:31:33,258 --> 00:31:34,993 hostile disbelief. 521 00:31:36,461 --> 00:31:39,564 But I think it's absolutely consistent with... 522 00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:42,433 how science progresses. 523 00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:55,580 Understanding that the baby is experiencing its own growth... 524 00:31:55,947 --> 00:31:58,416 It's fun for me, too, you know. Yes. 525 00:31:58,483 --> 00:32:02,987 ...and that its body is changing, and it has to adjust 526 00:32:03,054 --> 00:32:05,790 to its own changing body, 527 00:32:05,857 --> 00:32:08,593 and where it is in space and what it can do, 528 00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:13,431 is a very different way of thinking about the influences on early development. 529 00:32:16,701 --> 00:32:18,136 What does this mean 530 00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:20,505 for a baby who's learning to crawl? 531 00:32:30,214 --> 00:32:32,817 Ready? One, two, three. 532 00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:34,719 And then they just stand up. 533 00:32:37,322 --> 00:32:38,690 Yeah! 534 00:32:38,756 --> 00:32:40,725 Is that funny? 535 00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:42,059 Hello. 536 00:32:43,094 --> 00:32:44,629 - Hello. - Hi. 537 00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:45,997 There's Pascoe! 538 00:32:47,932 --> 00:32:49,033 Hello, Paxie. 539 00:32:49,667 --> 00:32:51,587 So we've been doing loads of tummy time. 540 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,672 - Has he? - But not showing much signs 541 00:32:54,739 --> 00:32:56,240 of wanting to crawl. 542 00:32:57,642 --> 00:32:59,310 Wow. 543 00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:00,697 Well, the toys he'll grab, 544 00:33:00,745 --> 00:33:02,213 - but he doesn't... - Yeah. 545 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,148 He'll try and reach for things, 546 00:33:04,215 --> 00:33:06,250 but his feet don't move. 547 00:33:06,317 --> 00:33:09,253 Yeah, he kind of happily goes on his tummy for a bit, 548 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,655 but then he gets really annoyed. 549 00:33:10,722 --> 00:33:13,424 It's really worth persisting with that, Mimi, though. 550 00:33:13,891 --> 00:33:17,862 It's terribly important for them to crawl, and to use all those muscles, 551 00:33:17,929 --> 00:33:21,532 because that's really important for their future development, you know? 552 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,077 - Get those legs going. - Yeah. 553 00:33:23,101 --> 00:33:25,436 It's just hard when he really hates tummy time, 554 00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:26,914 - and is really upset. - Yeah. 555 00:33:26,938 --> 00:33:28,106 It's hard to keep doing it. 556 00:33:28,172 --> 00:33:30,751 - Do you think you want to crawl, mate? - Are you listening to that? 557 00:33:30,775 --> 00:33:32,143 Grandma says you have to. 558 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:35,046 Oh, he shook his head! 559 00:33:36,214 --> 00:33:38,883 - "No! No, I don't want to." - No? 560 00:33:43,621 --> 00:33:44,655 Cheeky boy. 561 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:50,294 I can definitely see where she's coming from with her concerns, 562 00:33:50,361 --> 00:33:52,964 but there's not much you can do with a baby. 563 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:56,801 You can try telling him so many times "You need to crawl before you walk," 564 00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:58,736 but if that's what he wants to do... 565 00:34:11,082 --> 00:34:13,718 I haven't always been a scientist. 566 00:34:14,485 --> 00:34:16,921 In college I actually studied fine art. 567 00:34:18,156 --> 00:34:22,794 And on the first day of class, the professor handed me a plant. 568 00:34:25,329 --> 00:34:27,098 And he said, "Draw this." 569 00:34:30,935 --> 00:34:32,103 Every day 570 00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:35,606 he would come with a different plant and he would tell me... 571 00:34:36,207 --> 00:34:40,111 "You need to really look at it and understand how it grows." 572 00:34:46,451 --> 00:34:47,285 So now, 573 00:34:47,351 --> 00:34:49,353 all these years later, um, 574 00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:52,557 I feel like I'm essentially doing the same thing, 575 00:34:52,623 --> 00:34:55,226 only now I'm looking at babies, 576 00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:58,563 and I'm looking at their movements, so that I can understand 577 00:34:58,629 --> 00:35:00,331 how does behavior grow? 578 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,402 In the real world, 579 00:35:04,469 --> 00:35:08,840 the ground is not perfectly flat and empty and uniform. 580 00:35:09,807 --> 00:35:14,145 But for the last hundred years, and even going on now today, 581 00:35:14,212 --> 00:35:19,984 people study infant crawling by encouraging the babies to crawl 582 00:35:20,051 --> 00:35:22,987 in a straight line over uniform ground. 583 00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:26,224 But that's not how real mobility works. 584 00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:32,196 In the real world, as babies are crawling around, 585 00:35:32,263 --> 00:35:34,365 they actually have to make decisions, 586 00:35:34,432 --> 00:35:38,536 they have to use perception to guide their crawling movements. 587 00:35:38,603 --> 00:35:40,938 So, you know, "Should I crawl over the edge of the bed 588 00:35:41,005 --> 00:35:43,141 or should I stop at the edge?" Um... 589 00:35:43,374 --> 00:35:46,711 And so I wanted to find a way to test 590 00:35:46,777 --> 00:35:51,782 how do babies use perception to guide their crawling movements? 591 00:35:59,957 --> 00:36:03,427 If a baby really could perceive 592 00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:06,030 what they can do and what they cannot do, 593 00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:10,134 then they should be able to do it in a totally novel situation, 594 00:36:10,201 --> 00:36:12,670 something that they've never encountered before. 595 00:36:17,408 --> 00:36:21,145 So I built an adjustable slope apparatus. 596 00:36:27,385 --> 00:36:31,189 So, for this study, we want to see how babies, um, 597 00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:35,059 know what actions are possible and what actions are not. 598 00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:37,628 - Mm-hmm. - So we're going to ask him to crawl 599 00:36:38,162 --> 00:36:39,606 - over this walkway. - Great. 600 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:41,899 It's gonna make a noise, Grant. 601 00:36:41,966 --> 00:36:44,068 It can have really small slopes like this... 602 00:36:44,135 --> 00:36:47,038 - Yep. - ...or steeper ones like that. 603 00:36:47,104 --> 00:36:48,104 Gotcha. 604 00:36:48,573 --> 00:36:50,041 Good. I love it. 605 00:36:51,576 --> 00:36:53,077 All right, kiddo, let's go. 606 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:56,814 Grant is about ten months old, 607 00:36:57,181 --> 00:36:59,917 and he's been crawling for a little over a month. 608 00:37:01,485 --> 00:37:03,430 Come get it! We've got it all down here! 609 00:37:03,454 --> 00:37:04,789 Come here! 610 00:37:04,956 --> 00:37:07,458 Grant, come get these. 611 00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:08,725 Yeah. 612 00:37:09,026 --> 00:37:10,161 Good job. 613 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:12,396 Aah! You got it! 614 00:37:12,463 --> 00:37:15,299 We increased the degree of slant six degrees at a time. 615 00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:17,868 All right, Grant, are you ready? 616 00:37:18,803 --> 00:37:20,638 I've got it on the tower again. 617 00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:23,507 - Come here. - Go, go, go! Go, go, go! 618 00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:24,875 We're trying to figure out 619 00:37:24,942 --> 00:37:29,947 how precise are the babies' decisions about what they can and cannot do? 620 00:37:30,014 --> 00:37:33,384 - He couldn't get 'em - You've got all of 'em down there! Go! 621 00:37:34,418 --> 00:37:36,020 All right, working on that arm. 622 00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:38,556 Here you go! Come get the blue one! 623 00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:42,693 On a successful trial, 624 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,830 he crawls from top to bottom, belly off the floor, 625 00:37:45,896 --> 00:37:47,465 and nobody has to touch him. 626 00:37:50,835 --> 00:37:52,703 Go, go, go! Go, go, go! 627 00:37:53,037 --> 00:37:54,972 On an unsuccessful trial, 628 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:56,474 his arms give out 629 00:37:56,540 --> 00:37:58,142 or he stumbles 630 00:37:58,209 --> 00:38:02,113 or, you know, he's about to do a faceplant on the surface 631 00:38:02,179 --> 00:38:04,682 and the experimenter has to rescue him. 632 00:38:05,316 --> 00:38:08,119 - Okay, we're waking 'em all up. - Come here. 633 00:38:08,185 --> 00:38:11,022 You want to put 'em down to sleep? Wanna put 'em to sleep? 634 00:38:14,992 --> 00:38:15,992 That's good. 635 00:38:16,727 --> 00:38:19,263 Come put 'em down to sleep! Go to sleep. 636 00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:21,599 All right. 637 00:38:21,666 --> 00:38:23,501 - Good try. - There you go! 638 00:38:23,567 --> 00:38:27,104 He's making judgments thatare completely off 639 00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:28,673 from what he really can do. 640 00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:36,580 Then finally we present them with the largest slope, 641 00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:39,517 which is really a 90-degree drop-off. 642 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:43,620 Go, go, go! 643 00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:46,057 It's all the way down there, you gotta go get it. 644 00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:52,105 - You coming? - He will. 645 00:38:52,129 --> 00:38:53,197 You coming? 646 00:38:53,264 --> 00:38:54,832 All right! 647 00:38:56,233 --> 00:38:58,135 - Good try, man. - You got 'em! 648 00:38:58,202 --> 00:39:01,038 Grant approached the 90-degree drop-off 649 00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:03,774 the same way as he was approaching the shallower slopes. 650 00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:06,610 Come over to the edge, look and see what's at the bottom... 651 00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:07,878 Oh, the pop-up pals! 652 00:39:08,412 --> 00:39:10,514 And then just crawl right over the edge. 653 00:39:10,581 --> 00:39:11,916 All right! 654 00:39:11,982 --> 00:39:16,454 That's telling us that Grant is not yet able to distinguish 655 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,623 what he can do and what he cannot do. 656 00:39:22,259 --> 00:39:27,531 It's absolutely typical that babies, when they first begin crawling, 657 00:39:27,598 --> 00:39:29,867 when they first begin any new skill, 658 00:39:29,934 --> 00:39:32,603 they just are willing to try everything. 659 00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:36,173 And it's actually a pretty good way for development to work. 660 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,609 If you don't try things, you're never gonna learn. 661 00:39:38,676 --> 00:39:40,478 And so they just take the leap. 662 00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:42,613 Go, go, go! 663 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,282 - Go, go, go! - Yeah. 664 00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:50,654 Marlow's interesting because she's quite a strong hands-and-knees crawler. 665 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,290 Down you come! Down you come! Down you come! 666 00:39:54,291 --> 00:39:56,460 Good crawling, Marlow. 667 00:39:56,527 --> 00:40:02,066 In terms of having alternative ways of coping with a difficult motor problem, 668 00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:05,603 she was, like, right on the edge of understanding 669 00:40:05,669 --> 00:40:07,938 that, you know, there was other positions 670 00:40:08,005 --> 00:40:10,141 that are available to her to solve the problem. 671 00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:11,909 Come here. 672 00:40:11,976 --> 00:40:13,110 You can do it. 673 00:40:13,177 --> 00:40:16,947 Babies show really different kinds of behaviors 674 00:40:17,014 --> 00:40:21,452 as they're approaching the brink of an impossibly steep slope. 675 00:40:21,919 --> 00:40:22,953 Come on down. 676 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:24,989 I know, it's so funny. Just come on down. 677 00:40:25,956 --> 00:40:28,859 So I'm pretty sure you can figure it out. 678 00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:32,263 The babies who make smart decisions, 679 00:40:32,329 --> 00:40:36,801 those are the same babies that will generate perceptual information 680 00:40:36,867 --> 00:40:38,769 by looking and by touching. 681 00:40:42,006 --> 00:40:43,808 You see that? You coming? 682 00:40:44,708 --> 00:40:48,712 Marlow was quite good at perceiving what she could and could not do. 683 00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:51,816 She knew if the steps were very steep 684 00:40:51,882 --> 00:40:53,150 that they were impossible. 685 00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:55,386 Xylophone, and... 686 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:57,521 Yeah! 687 00:40:57,988 --> 00:41:00,791 Wee! 688 00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:01,858 Okay. 689 00:41:02,793 --> 00:41:04,728 Good... Good try, man. 690 00:41:04,795 --> 00:41:05,795 All right. 691 00:41:06,664 --> 00:41:09,209 - I'm gonna send this down to Justine. - Can I have that? 692 00:41:09,233 --> 00:41:10,301 I'll hold it for you. 693 00:41:10,401 --> 00:41:13,737 Dax would switch freely between crawling on hands and knees 694 00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:15,906 and crawling on hands and feet like a bear. 695 00:41:16,707 --> 00:41:18,309 A little more challenging. 696 00:41:18,876 --> 00:41:22,446 He actually can move faster when he's up on hands and feet, 697 00:41:22,513 --> 00:41:24,715 and so when he really wanted to get to something, 698 00:41:24,782 --> 00:41:26,617 he would just extend his legs 699 00:41:26,684 --> 00:41:30,187 and, you know, crawl down the pathway on hands and feet. 700 00:41:30,254 --> 00:41:31,622 He's crawling. What's that? 701 00:41:31,689 --> 00:41:34,558 He was just, you know, reconfiguring his body on the fly 702 00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:38,095 to kind of figure out how to solve that problem. 703 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:40,082 - Let's do it again. - Perfect. 704 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,102 All right. Are we coming down? 705 00:41:45,469 --> 00:41:46,469 Ready? 706 00:41:47,371 --> 00:41:49,373 We built this tall tower for you. 707 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,777 Dax really, really could perceive the limits of his own abilities. 708 00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:55,179 Wow! 709 00:41:55,246 --> 00:41:56,447 You did it! 710 00:41:56,747 --> 00:42:01,385 So as the slope started to get too steep for him to crawl safely, 711 00:42:01,452 --> 00:42:05,890 that's when he was beginning to switch to find alternative strategies. 712 00:42:07,057 --> 00:42:08,893 Ready? 713 00:42:08,959 --> 00:42:10,628 Come get some down here. 714 00:42:11,996 --> 00:42:13,998 Yeah, they're all waiting for you. 715 00:42:15,266 --> 00:42:16,534 Wow! 716 00:42:16,934 --> 00:42:18,168 Smart thinking. 717 00:42:18,502 --> 00:42:19,502 You got it. 718 00:42:20,971 --> 00:42:25,342 It takes about 20 weeks of crawling experience 719 00:42:25,409 --> 00:42:29,647 before a baby is showing adult-like accuracy 720 00:42:29,713 --> 00:42:32,550 when they're looking at an impossibly steep slope. 721 00:42:34,218 --> 00:42:36,220 What is it that babies are learning 722 00:42:36,287 --> 00:42:38,822 over all those weeks of crawling? 723 00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:40,457 Definitely not in Manhattan. 724 00:42:41,592 --> 00:42:42,726 Good job. 725 00:42:42,793 --> 00:42:43,994 Good job. 726 00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:45,996 They're learning how to figure out, 727 00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:49,567 in this moment right now, what is my body like? 728 00:42:49,633 --> 00:42:51,435 What is the environment like? 729 00:42:51,502 --> 00:42:55,105 And what can I do with this body in this environment? 730 00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,375 And those things will change from day to day, 731 00:42:58,442 --> 00:42:59,677 because they can wake up 732 00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:03,080 and find that they've grown another two centimeters. 733 00:43:03,147 --> 00:43:05,416 Their mom could dress them in a different outfit 734 00:43:05,482 --> 00:43:08,419 that is functionally changing their body dimensions, 735 00:43:08,485 --> 00:43:10,454 or the way that they can move. 736 00:43:10,854 --> 00:43:12,856 Go, go, go! Go, go! 737 00:43:12,923 --> 00:43:15,459 And it's good for your baby to crawl on grass 738 00:43:15,526 --> 00:43:17,828 or crawl on sand or crawl on whatever, 739 00:43:17,895 --> 00:43:23,267 because learning to crawl isn't learning some specific pattern of coordination 740 00:43:23,334 --> 00:43:25,002 between your arms and legs, 741 00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:28,839 it's learning to behave in a really flexible way 742 00:43:28,906 --> 00:43:31,609 so that the baby can get around in the world. 743 00:43:45,322 --> 00:43:46,522 It's tummy time again? 744 00:43:47,424 --> 00:43:48,424 Huh? 745 00:43:49,193 --> 00:43:50,661 What do you do in tummy time? 746 00:43:53,998 --> 00:43:55,899 Is that a laugh or is that a cry? 747 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,400 Mateo. 748 00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:59,269 Is that a laugh or a cry? 749 00:44:06,977 --> 00:44:08,045 Where's Laura? 750 00:44:09,647 --> 00:44:11,248 Yeah, you don't like this position. 751 00:44:14,451 --> 00:44:16,020 Are you going to crawl, Mateo? 752 00:44:16,086 --> 00:44:18,022 Think you can crawl? 753 00:44:32,102 --> 00:44:33,137 Come, come, come. 754 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,508 I see you, Mateo. Come. 755 00:44:37,574 --> 00:44:38,574 Come on. 756 00:44:39,376 --> 00:44:41,011 Hey! 757 00:44:44,314 --> 00:44:45,416 Oh, detour. 758 00:44:46,316 --> 00:44:49,286 A few weeks ago, he just started crawling, 759 00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:51,221 and then as soon as he started, 760 00:44:51,989 --> 00:44:54,224 he's just been going nonstop ever since. 761 00:44:54,291 --> 00:44:57,895 So, yeah, he goes between rooms, 762 00:44:57,961 --> 00:45:01,532 he climbed up the stairs the other day, which I was shocked by. 763 00:45:01,899 --> 00:45:03,067 Come, come, come. 764 00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:05,035 And so I really have to watch him now. 765 00:45:05,102 --> 00:45:06,303 Hey, come on. 766 00:45:08,138 --> 00:45:10,007 Come on. Hey, good boy. 767 00:45:10,674 --> 00:45:11,674 Hey. 768 00:45:12,409 --> 00:45:13,744 Good boy! 769 00:45:14,311 --> 00:45:16,346 Come. Come here. Come. 770 00:45:17,681 --> 00:45:20,250 Yeah, now I really need to be careful with him, because... 771 00:45:20,317 --> 00:45:22,986 Yeah, you're all over the place, bubs. 772 00:45:25,355 --> 00:45:27,991 It's okay, come. Come, come. 773 00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:29,827 It's okay, come. 774 00:45:31,862 --> 00:45:34,698 More recently he's getting more independent. 775 00:45:34,765 --> 00:45:37,501 Just kind of going for it and feeling confident 776 00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:39,169 to just explore on his own. 777 00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:40,938 Good boy! 778 00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:44,208 You're on the move, bub. 779 00:45:48,479 --> 00:45:49,513 All right, let's go. 780 00:45:51,982 --> 00:45:54,551 Want to have your milk? Want to go take a nap? 781 00:45:56,820 --> 00:45:57,821 Night-night, Papa. 782 00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:02,392 Over the years, 783 00:46:02,459 --> 00:46:07,064 I've watched hundreds and hundreds of babies crawl. 784 00:46:08,132 --> 00:46:10,200 One of the things that I found out, 785 00:46:10,801 --> 00:46:13,337 to my surprise and my frustration, 786 00:46:13,403 --> 00:46:18,776 was that a baby who could demonstrate that it could crawl on Monday 787 00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:22,780 would not be able to crawl on Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday, 788 00:46:22,846 --> 00:46:26,150 and then could crawl again on Friday, and then not Saturday, Sunday. 789 00:46:28,352 --> 00:46:32,923 So this raised the question of whether there's a long period 790 00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:34,892 when a baby can't crawl, 791 00:46:34,958 --> 00:46:37,161 and then, like turning on a light switch, 792 00:46:37,227 --> 00:46:40,230 all of a sudden now this baby can crawl? 793 00:46:40,297 --> 00:46:42,166 Does it really work like that? 794 00:46:42,666 --> 00:46:47,070 Well, the only way to know would be to observe babies every single day 795 00:46:47,137 --> 00:46:50,641 and see whether you turned on the crawling switch. 796 00:46:55,412 --> 00:46:58,682 This is my daughter, Lily, when she was a baby. 797 00:47:00,284 --> 00:47:04,555 And she was in my diary study, and we tracked babies 798 00:47:04,621 --> 00:47:09,760 from when they were born until they were about 18, 20 months old. 799 00:47:10,627 --> 00:47:15,432 We asked parents to track every little skill that babies might display 800 00:47:15,899 --> 00:47:18,735 on the way to being able to crawl. 801 00:47:21,471 --> 00:47:23,907 This whole file is Lilly's data. 802 00:47:25,042 --> 00:47:26,476 So, in March... 803 00:47:26,977 --> 00:47:30,681 ...Lily took her first crawling steps. 804 00:47:31,248 --> 00:47:35,185 So, on March 19th, she did a combat crawl, 805 00:47:35,986 --> 00:47:38,021 and then we never saw it again. 806 00:47:38,088 --> 00:47:42,092 And on March 28th she did a belly crawl, 807 00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:43,327 and then not again 808 00:47:43,894 --> 00:47:46,096 until April 1st. 809 00:47:48,165 --> 00:47:51,168 Now Lilly is doing a whole variety 810 00:47:51,635 --> 00:47:57,140 of little sort of crawling steps of different types of crawls. 811 00:47:57,207 --> 00:47:58,642 Sometimes they go away, 812 00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:01,478 sometimes they stay for several days in a row. 813 00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:07,885 We learned that crawling is incredibly variable 814 00:48:07,951 --> 00:48:10,320 and incredibly creative, 815 00:48:10,387 --> 00:48:15,559 and that every baby's trajectory looks different from the other babies. 816 00:48:18,228 --> 00:48:21,331 The whole idea of motor milestones, 817 00:48:21,398 --> 00:48:23,834 where there's a kind of orderly progression... 818 00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:25,168 "First, babies can roll 819 00:48:25,235 --> 00:48:27,537 and then they can sit up and then they can crawl 820 00:48:27,604 --> 00:48:29,740 and then they stand and then they cruise." 821 00:48:29,806 --> 00:48:33,243 You know, it's been in the literature for a century, 822 00:48:33,543 --> 00:48:38,415 in every pediatrician's office, in every parenting book or magazine. 823 00:48:38,482 --> 00:48:40,183 It just really doesn't happen like that. 824 00:48:44,688 --> 00:48:46,599 He's just done the same words you've made. 825 00:48:46,623 --> 00:48:48,058 Or noise. 826 00:48:48,392 --> 00:48:49,927 Oh. 827 00:48:49,993 --> 00:48:51,528 Get your balance right. 828 00:48:52,763 --> 00:48:54,298 That is brilliant. 829 00:48:54,698 --> 00:48:56,767 Our findings show 830 00:48:56,833 --> 00:49:00,671 that there really is no sort of steady march 831 00:49:00,737 --> 00:49:02,739 from one stage to another. 832 00:49:02,806 --> 00:49:04,541 Ah, success. 833 00:49:06,877 --> 00:49:09,046 From whatever, lifting your head up, 834 00:49:09,112 --> 00:49:11,515 and then all the way to walking. 835 00:49:17,054 --> 00:49:18,689 Good strong legs. 836 00:49:22,759 --> 00:49:27,364 Instead, babies are acquiring their skills in different orders, 837 00:49:27,431 --> 00:49:31,735 and skills are sort of appearing and disappearing and reappearing, 838 00:49:31,802 --> 00:49:35,973 and then, bit by bit, babies gradually make their way toward walking. 839 00:49:38,608 --> 00:49:41,712 He's on the move and there's no, sort of, turning back. 840 00:49:43,714 --> 00:49:48,051 I don't think he's gonna crawl, I think he's completely missed that stage. 841 00:49:52,789 --> 00:49:56,293 Seeing other babies crawling and getting places, 842 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,895 there was a thought of, "It'd be nice if Pascoe could do that," 843 00:49:58,962 --> 00:50:02,199 but once we got the feeling that he wasn't gonna crawl, it was just, 844 00:50:02,265 --> 00:50:04,034 "All right, just let him stand up." 845 00:50:04,101 --> 00:50:06,136 - Watch your head. - On the table. Here. 846 00:50:06,403 --> 00:50:07,403 Hey! 847 00:50:07,437 --> 00:50:09,006 Where is it? Where'd it go? 848 00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:12,409 He's just decided, "No, I like standing up 849 00:50:12,476 --> 00:50:15,479 and I like moving around this way, so I'm just gonna continue like this." 850 00:50:16,380 --> 00:50:18,315 No. No. 851 00:50:18,749 --> 00:50:20,684 - Yes. - No. 852 00:50:21,218 --> 00:50:23,587 It's just eagle eyes, watching him all the time. 853 00:50:25,422 --> 00:50:26,323 That's funny. 854 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:29,192 Making sure that he's not grabbing something that he shouldn't grab. 855 00:50:29,826 --> 00:50:31,228 Oi! 856 00:50:31,461 --> 00:50:37,100 It's really important for parents to know that crawling isn't mandatory. 857 00:50:39,736 --> 00:50:43,874 It is not an obligatory stage that babies have to do 858 00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:46,410 before they begin walking. 859 00:50:48,245 --> 00:50:51,214 And so, if your baby decides to crawl, 860 00:50:51,648 --> 00:50:52,648 great. 861 00:50:52,849 --> 00:50:54,684 What's that? It's a footy. 862 00:50:54,751 --> 00:50:58,288 And if your baby finds another solution for getting around, 863 00:50:58,355 --> 00:51:00,357 like bum-shuffling, great. 864 00:51:00,424 --> 00:51:05,796 And if your baby decides to just wait and get up and walk, that's also great. 865 00:51:06,696 --> 00:51:09,399 - That's it, that's it. - Good cruise, good cruise. 866 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,668 Yes! Reach. 867 00:51:12,102 --> 00:51:14,171 - Almost. - Get closer. Good boy. 868 00:51:14,237 --> 00:51:16,840 Babies all develop in their own way. 869 00:51:17,174 --> 00:51:19,543 One hand. Hey! 870 00:51:20,911 --> 00:51:23,413 So just relax and enjoy 871 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,849 and watch your baby's beautiful development. 65152

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