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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,960 ‏[narrator] This program contains content that may be disturbing to some viewers 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,000 ‏viewer discretion is advised 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,240 ‏[dramatic theme music] 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:18,800 ‏That day 26 years ago, I remember crystal clear, every single thing that happened. 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,120 ‏It seems to be completely burned into my memory, every detail of it. 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,960 ‏I don't think that's something that you ever really forget. 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,280 ‏I realized he didn't have enough time to come and get me. 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,720 ‏There was absolutely no reason for the shark to stop. 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,720 ‏I had lost approximately five pints of blood. 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,760 ‏You only have eight to nine in your body. I was waiting for the feeding frenzy. 11 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,240 ‏[dramatic crescendo] 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,840 ‏[gentle theme music] 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,480 ‏I'm in the Red Sea, visiting an old friend of mine, 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,920 ‏so they asked me if I wanted to do my open water diving. 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,640 ‏[dramatic bellow] 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,520 ‏The Red Sea off the coast of Egypt is home to many different species of sharks. 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,040 ‏We have oceanic whitetips, silky sharks, scalloped hammerheads. 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,640 ‏That's why so many people go there for the diving. 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:25,400 ‏As it's a tourist hot spot, these interactions between sharks and humans 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,720 ‏are increasing, and sometimes with negative consequences. 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,640 ‏[dramatic bellow] 22 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,640 ‏The day that it happened, Harry and I'd been out diving. 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,600 ‏We had just started to complete our open water diving exam. 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,960 ‏It was actually my first open water course I'd ever run as a brand new instructor. 25 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,440 ‏We'd completed a couple of open water dives. The day was going great. 26 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,800 ‏We were just going back to port. 27 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,200 ‏On the way back, we saw three dolphins and a baby dolphin. 28 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,920 ‏That was the initial reason that we'd slowed down. 29 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,640 ‏[Martin] I jumped in to swim with them. Obviously as soon as I hit the water... 30 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,800 ‏the dolphins disappeared. 31 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 ‏[Harry] It was a baking hot day... 32 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,680 ‏and we put some ropes out off the back of the boat. 33 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,280 ‏We're going half a knot. It's not something that we would normally do. 34 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,840 ‏[dramatic music swells] 35 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,520 ‏In hindsight, a human body does behave like a lure 36 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,280 ‏when it's behind a boat on a rope. 37 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,280 ‏-It's probably not the wisest thing to do. -[dramatic bellow] 38 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,280 ‏[Harry] Then I remember he let go of the rope. 39 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,640 ‏I thought to myself, he's burnt his hands probably, 40 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:47,680 ‏because you can get a bit of rope burn while it's going along. 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,280 ‏Someone being towed behind a boat would be a perfect lure for a shark. 42 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,840 ‏With the silhouette that a human can present is a bad idea. 43 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,440 ‏The next thing I remember, we were looking at Martin... 44 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,360 ‏and that's when it happened really. 45 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,960 ‏[music intensifies] 46 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,040 ‏As soon as you get hit like that in the water, you know exactly what it is. 47 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,720 ‏[underwater screams] 48 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,160 ‏I saw Martin lifted out of the water, like this. 49 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,320 ‏I was screaming out "shark" at the top of my lungs. 50 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,560 ‏Shark! 51 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,880 ‏It's very likely that during the tow, 52 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,440 ‏this is when the shark first became interested, 53 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,080 ‏and then the minute that Martin stopped moving, 54 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,600 ‏to a shark, that's just, go, go, go. Now's the time to attack. 55 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,920 ‏[underwater screams] Shark! 56 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,240 ‏There's panic and screaming. 57 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,640 ‏I think there was possibly a delay in my brain between I'm looking, 58 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,440 ‏I was watching him and I thought there's something very, very wrong. 59 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,200 ‏Obviously, there was just a lot of blood in front of me, 60 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,920 ‏and my first reaction was to get away from the blood, 61 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,440 ‏and at this point I looked back, 62 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,320 ‏I saw Harry, he jumped straight in the Zodiac 63 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,520 ‏and came as fast as he could to come and get me. 64 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,600 ‏-[music intensifies] -[engine roars] 65 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,960 ‏What's really fascinating about shark behavior 66 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,240 ‏is just how opportunistic they can be and how adaptable they are. 67 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,880 ‏Sharks can hit incredible speeds right away, 68 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,800 ‏they have this kind of burst speed response. 69 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,960 ‏They can get up to 20 kilometers an hour or more, 70 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,680 ‏and just nail prey before they even know the shark's coming. 71 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,480 ‏And then all of a sudden, the shark came up from underneath. 72 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,000 ‏-[intense music] -[water splashing] 73 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,920 ‏As it hit me here, just about here, just about that much of its head, 74 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,880 ‏was just crowning out of the water. 75 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:12,760 ‏So I punched it as hard as I could, one of the most worst feelings that I've had, 76 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,120 ‏of actually the shark's skin and flesh. 77 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,480 ‏It took three bites out of my back, then went away. 78 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,480 ‏[dramatic bellow] 79 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,720 ‏Martin's floating on the surface of the water. 80 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,760 ‏We would expect a shark to attack from below and behind 81 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:33,680 ‏because it gives them the advantage of surprise, 82 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,640 ‏and it also means that they're going to attack an area 83 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,160 ‏which is rich in blood vessels. 84 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,480 ‏It's all taking place in one 40-second event, 85 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 ‏but I'm heading towards Martin as fast as I can. 86 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,760 ‏That's when it took a bite out of me here. 87 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,960 ‏-He's continuing to be eaten. -[dramatic bellow] 88 00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:59,440 ‏When you're an ambush predator, 89 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,640 ‏you usually attack first and then see what it is later, 90 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,560 ‏because by the time you make a calculation of what is that, 91 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,080 ‏that fast-swimming prey may have seen you and gotten away. 92 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,080 ‏-[engine roars] -[dramatic music] 93 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,480 ‏I am 20 meters away from Martin at this point, and I'm thinking to myself, 94 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,040 ‏"God, that's, that's a lot of blood." 95 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,800 ‏I knew it was circling me, and I realized, he didn't have enough time, 96 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,200 ‏you know, there was too much blood, 97 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,000 ‏and basically, I was waiting for the feeding frenzy. 98 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,000 ‏So I turned away and looked to the mountains. 99 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,800 ‏-I gave up. -[sentimental music] 100 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,920 ‏What I felt was pure contentment. 101 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,520 ‏It was... 102 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,760 ‏just like when you let all the air out, 103 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,920 ‏you breathe out completely, it's just like... 104 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,480 ‏-[engine roars] -[music intensifies] 105 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,440 ‏[Harry] I'm approaching the last few final meters, and it went very, very quiet. 106 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,720 ‏-Then... -[music intensifies] 107 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,520 ‏two fins shot behind Martin's left-hand shoulder. 108 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,200 ‏The attack had stopped, I mean it had just stopped dead. 109 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,840 ‏It just went very, very quiet, and it wasn't normal. 110 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,200 ‏There were two fins over this shoulder of Martin, 111 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,480 ‏and I think the dolphins that we had stopped 112 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,120 ‏to interact with on the ropes. had intervened. 113 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,840 ‏[dolphins squeaking] 114 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,240 ‏This is a phenomenon which divides marine scientists, 115 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,760 ‏whether or not a shark could be stopped from attacking a human 116 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,680 ‏through the interaction of another animal, such as a whale or a dolphin. 117 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,280 ‏It's really hard to know the motivation of these animals. 118 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,600 ‏It may not be a fully altruistic "We're trying to protect these people," 119 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,360 ‏it could be "We just want this predator 120 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,480 ‏that could be dangerous to us, out of here." 121 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,040 ‏Being saved by another animal is certainly a very romantic notion, 122 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,560 ‏and there are those people that believe that it is true. 123 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,360 ‏I'm positive there was a very pronounced curve to the dorsal fins. 124 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,520 ‏I'd stake my life on it that they were dolphin fins. 125 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,240 ‏It's hard to understand exactly why dolphins would do this, 126 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,440 ‏but if you have a big predator that might attack you or your young, 127 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,120 ‏you want to keep it in sight and scare it away. 128 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,280 ‏The dolphins see this big cloud of blood, 129 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,960 ‏they know the shark's in the area and it's bitten someone. 130 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,240 ‏It seems like this is a really dangerous moment for the dolphins, 131 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,320 ‏because you've got a shark in feeding mode. 132 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:09,280 ‏There was no reason for, um, the shark to stop. 133 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,360 ‏It had already taken five bites out of my body, had a punctured lung. 134 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,920 ‏Because the dolphins have echolocation, 135 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,680 ‏they've got the speed, they've got the maneuverability, 136 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,800 ‏if they know where that shark is, the danger isn't actually any greater. 137 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,280 ‏They're able to get in there, mob the shark, annoy it, and drive it away. 138 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,120 ‏[dramatic music bellows] 139 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,000 ‏It'd been very, very calm, extremely still, 140 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,320 ‏and there was no more frenzied attack going on, 141 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,760 ‏so clearly they stopped an attack on him. 142 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,120 ‏My whole state of my brain changed and just turned into this, 143 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,160 ‏just do what you have to do to get him in the boat and keep him alive. 144 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,480 ‏I remember uncontrollable blood just pumping and pumping out of his chest, 145 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,520 ‏and the site was losing a lot of blood. 146 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,880 ‏[dramatic music continues] 147 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,720 ‏And from that point, I don't remember anything else. 148 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,880 ‏Now, there are well-documented cases where people believe they have been saved 149 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:27,240 ‏from a potential shark attack, but what we don't know in these scenarios 150 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,960 ‏is what that particular animal, or the shark, was thinking. 151 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,360 ‏As scientists, we deal in proof, 152 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,840 ‏so when it comes to looking at the deliberate actions 153 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,960 ‏of a whale or dolphin protecting a human from a shark attack, 154 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,880 ‏-we need to look at the evidence. -[damatic musc] 155 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,320 ‏It happened so quick. You don't feel anything, there was no pain. 156 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:58,080 ‏I knew there was no way I could survive. I accepted it, I accepted dying. 157 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,040 ‏It had already taken five bites out of me. 158 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,640 ‏There was absolutely no reason for the shark to stop. 159 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,320 ‏[music continues] 160 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,680 ‏I firmly believe that the dolphins did save my life; 161 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,600 ‏there's no other explanation as to why the shark would stop. 162 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,880 ‏Here's one bite here, there's another one all down there, 163 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,680 ‏then you've got the whole mouth, right here. 164 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,840 ‏And this is where he punctured my lung. 165 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,960 ‏And he took this out here, 166 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:37,960 ‏and then just scars all down here and all up here as well. 167 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,320 ‏[camera shutters] 168 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,440 ‏With the teeth marks that I have, they say it's a mako shark. 169 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,000 ‏It took three surgeons four hours to stitch me up. 170 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,720 ‏I had over 100 stitches inside and over 200 outside. 171 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,320 ‏Unfortunately, I've learnt that as soon as I take my t-shirt off, 172 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,320 ‏everybody just keeps staring at me. 173 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,880 ‏When I got out of the hospital, I met up with Harry, 174 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,200 ‏and the first question I asked him was, 175 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:21,000 ‏was that true about the dolphins, because I needed to know for myself. 176 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,440 ‏Harry looked me in the eyes, he said, 177 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,120 ‏"I saw a dolphin a meter away from you and another one in the vicinity." 178 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,680 ‏-[water splashes] -[hopeful music plays] 179 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:36,640 ‏I believe the shark didn't finish the job because it was stopped by the dolphins. 180 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,560 ‏It's undeniable that the dolphins were there beforehand, 181 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,800 ‏they were there when I pulled him out, and that they stopped something 182 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,520 ‏that could have actually finished him off completely. 183 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:54,320 ‏They may not have been trying to save Martin, but effectively they did. 184 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,120 ‏[music intensifies] 185 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,640 ‏It was my first proper trauma, and I don't think that's something 186 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,880 ‏that you ever really forget, 187 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,240 ‏and I couldn't go back in the water for a year. I'd just become an instructor, 188 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,800 ‏and for some reason I couldn't let go of the ladder, 189 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:14,680 ‏which was really annoying, I felt like I was being not very brave. 190 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,400 ‏It's made me a better person for sure. 191 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,040 ‏You learn the greatest gift you're given is life. 192 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,040 ‏-[music continues] -[water splashes] 193 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,120 ‏Now people can believe or disbelieve these accounts, 194 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,800 ‏but when it's witnessed by a scientist, then there's reason to listen. 195 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,120 ‏[dramatic music] 196 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,400 ‏The South Pacific Ocean is a fantastic place to observe marine life. 197 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:55,680 ‏You have incredible coral reefs, dolphins, you've got things like the humpback whale, 198 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,840 ‏and of course you've got some fantastic predatory sharks. 199 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:05,120 ‏One in particular that owns that whole South Pacific area is the tiger shark. 200 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,720 ‏[dramatic music bellows] 201 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,280 ‏I've been a whale biologist for 30 years, and every day when I wake up, 202 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,520 ‏I know that there's a new adventure that awaits me. 203 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,920 ‏[serene music] 204 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,200 ‏Because I'm underwater a lot, I've had many, many interactions with sharks, 205 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,320 ‏and most of the time they're just beautiful, beautiful fish. 206 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,600 ‏It's really only the oceanic whitetip, the bulls, tigers, 207 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,720 ‏and great whites that I get out of the water for. 208 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,600 ‏-[blow hole sounds] -[music continues] 209 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,560 ‏This is the strangest thing I've ever seen. 210 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,120 ‏If someone else hadn't slid in the water and filmed it, 211 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,600 ‏I would not really have believed everything had happened. 212 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,560 ‏Oh, my God. 213 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,080 ‏I'm making a film in Rarotonga about my research. 214 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,520 ‏Two whales approached and we didn't have enough footage of me underwater, so... 215 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,400 ‏[Elissa] Okay. It's recording. 216 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,560 ‏They suggested that I slide over the side of the boat. 217 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,400 ‏[water splashing] 218 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,040 ‏I'm in the water and a whale starts swimming up to me, 219 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:24,040 ‏and he's swimming up to me very fast. So put my hand out and I touch his head, 220 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,800 ‏because he's pushing me, and I know that I can't push away a 50,000-pound whale. 221 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,320 ‏But this whale keeps pushing. I cannot figure out what's going on. 222 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,560 ‏[intense music bellows] 223 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,840 ‏I get away just briefly, and I look over, there's another whale there, 224 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,840 ‏and she's slapping her tail a bit, swishing it in the water. 225 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,120 ‏I'm thinking, what is going on here? 226 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,920 ‏Usually, you think about these whales, 227 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,960 ‏maybe kind of keeping an eye on the people swimming with them, 228 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,720 ‏largely ignoring them, interacting, 229 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,840 ‏but definitely keeping space and not initiating contact. 230 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,120 ‏-[music continues] -[water sloshing] 231 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,400 ‏[Nan] The next thing I know, he's got me on his head. 232 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,960 ‏-[man] Is she okay? She okay? -[Elissa] Careful! 233 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:23,160 ‏To see this whale lift her up onto its snout, it's kind of mind-blowing. 234 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,760 ‏[Nan] I'm sitting on his head and freaking out a little bit. 235 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,400 ‏His eye is wide open and I'm right next to it, 236 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:40,080 ‏and he slips me down his body and tries to tuck me under his pectoral fin. 237 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,040 ‏[dramatic sting] 238 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,680 ‏Those are behaviors that would be consistent with 239 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,040 ‏trying to protect a young humpback whale. 240 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,840 ‏[dramatic bellow] 241 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,200 ‏This is really incredible. You can see the whale swimming right at her, 242 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,000 ‏and Nan's trying to not be in its way. 243 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,560 ‏[dramatic bellow] 244 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,640 ‏You can see this is not her swimming to the whale and initiating the contact. 245 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,160 ‏[Nan] He's looking at me, and I know he has something to tell me. 246 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,480 ‏I do not understand, and he wants me to understand. 247 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,960 ‏[music intensifies] 248 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:27,680 ‏And I look down into the deep blue, and then I see right below me 249 00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:30,520 ‏the tail going like this. 250 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,360 ‏[music continues] 251 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,040 ‏I'm starting to put together a little bit more 252 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,240 ‏about what that whale was trying to tell me. 253 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,200 ‏[man] Are you hurt? 254 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,720 ‏[Nan] There's a great big tiger shark over there! 255 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,640 ‏Tiger sharks and humpback whales are found in the same spot. 256 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,240 ‏Tiger sharks are incredible predators, they're one of the few species of sharks 257 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,040 ‏that eats really big prey. It wouldn't surprise me if tiger sharks 258 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:08,000 ‏are going after injured whales or very small ones. 259 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,680 ‏It was huge, as long as my truck. 260 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:18,240 ‏It is the hugest shark I have ever seen. 261 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:25,720 ‏15 feet, 18 feet's possible, and that is a monstrous top predator. 262 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,240 ‏They've got that mouth right at the end of their snout, 263 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,680 ‏so it's easy to reach out and grab on. 264 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,200 ‏The teeth are curved and serrated so they can even grab onto a sea turtle, 265 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,840 ‏shake their head back and forth and cut straight through that shell. 266 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,880 ‏[suspenseful music] 267 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,480 ‏[Nan] I'm looking at the shark, 268 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,040 ‏and it's about 35 feet away from me and it's approaching quickly. 269 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,880 ‏[Mike] They'll spend time swimming along the surface 270 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,960 ‏then maybe drop down to the bottom, 271 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,840 ‏and they appear to need to sneak up on their prey 272 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,360 ‏and get fairly close to make that last little dash to get it. 273 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,120 ‏If you run into a big tiger shark with pectoral fins depressed, 274 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,840 ‏starting to swim erratically or fast, you have something to be worried about. 275 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,760 ‏I see its pec fins down, I see it arching its body, 276 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,040 ‏and it's moving fast, and it's coming towards me. 277 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:24,120 ‏[dramatic music intensifies] 278 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,960 ‏I know, and the whale knows, that this is a serious situation, 279 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,680 ‏and I wanted to get out of the water. 280 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,840 ‏And then all of a sudden I was swooped up 281 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,560 ‏by the whale that had been pushing me, 282 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,760 ‏and now he's got me right on the front of his face, 283 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,640 ‏and I yell to the boat, "Please help me!" 284 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,320 ‏-Oh, my God! -[blow hole sputters] 285 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,080 ‏And then voom! I'm back down in the water again. 286 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,520 ‏-[man] Is she okay? Is she okay? -[Elissa] Yeah, yeah! 287 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,080 ‏Somehow I always sort of knew with my job 288 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,720 ‏that I probably would be killed by a whale, so I thought, is this the day? 289 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000 ‏-[dramatic music] -[water sloshing] 290 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,800 ‏[Mike] Those tails, or the pectoral fins of humpback whales, 291 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,240 ‏they can do tremendous damage if they want to. 292 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,800 ‏I can only imagine what Nan is thinking at that point in time, 293 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,160 ‏because, yeah, those pectoral fins could kill her. 294 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,680 ‏I don't want to get caught underneath, because 295 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:27,480 ‏I know that with a snorkel and mask on, I won't be able to breathe. 296 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,120 ‏The whale's so close to me that all I see are these throat pleats. 297 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,760 ‏And I suddenly realize that the shark is coming up, 298 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,680 ‏just at me like this, right below me. 299 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,280 ‏[dramatic music bellows] 300 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,640 ‏The whale pushes me back to the boat, 301 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,840 ‏and my research assistant Elissa says, "Nan, the whale." 302 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280 ‏Nan, careful! [laughs] 303 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,720 ‏[Nan] I look, and he's right there next to me, protecting me. 304 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,560 ‏-[music swells] -I was so... 305 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,040 ‏And I cried. Oh, my God! 306 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:19,080 ‏Oh, my God! It is a very emotional moment. 307 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,640 ‏[upbeat music] 308 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,080 ‏For me, it matters that Nan is the one telling this story. 309 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,240 ‏She is a serious scientist, she has been studying these animals for years. 310 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,400 ‏[Nan] Holy moly! 311 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,880 ‏I've been around whales for so long 312 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,600 ‏that there's this whole compassionate behavior that they have. 313 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,000 ‏I believe with my whole heart 314 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,520 ‏that that humpback actually protected me from the shark. 315 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,640 ‏You have a big tiger shark in the area 316 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,280 ‏and this very, very rare event for a whale to initiate contact, 317 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:58,400 ‏and in ways that are similar to what it would do 318 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,160 ‏if it was trying to protect a young humpback whale. 319 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,000 ‏So when she talks about just how rare and unique 320 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,200 ‏this occurrence is, I put a lot of stock in that. 321 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800 ‏Realistically, any conflict between 322 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,520 ‏two incredible oceanic predators will come down to the scenario 323 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,440 ‏that they find themselves in at that time. 324 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,720 ‏[eerie music] 325 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,440 ‏The oceans around the coasts of New Zealand 326 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,960 ‏are absolutely packed with life. 327 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,560 ‏You just need to go a few meters off the shore 328 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,600 ‏and you're in this incredible, rich marine environment. 329 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,280 ‏[music intensifies] 330 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,920 ‏We have all sorts of different species of whales. 331 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,080 ‏We have different species of sharks, bronze whaler sharks, 332 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,560 ‏we've seen the odd mako, we've come across some small hammerheads. 333 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,800 ‏We get great whites. 334 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,800 ‏When you swim in the oceans off New Zealand, 335 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,200 ‏you're most certainly swimming with sharks. 336 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,640 ‏[dramatic bellow] 337 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,120 ‏-[waves crashing] -[suspenseful music] 338 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,000 ‏It started with us just going for one of our regular training swims. 339 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,080 ‏So, we went into the water, 340 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,880 ‏around to the rocks where we played for a wee while, 341 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,680 ‏and then we decided to swim to the other end of the beach. 342 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,680 ‏I've been with Whangārei Heads Surf Club for a number of years. 343 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,680 ‏I'm a senior lifeguard. I get a lot of pleasure 344 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,160 ‏from training all the new, fresh lifeguards. 345 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,040 ‏The surf club is like a big family, we all look after each other. 346 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,040 ‏[dramatic bellow] 347 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,440 ‏Every time I think back to that day, I think how lucky we were. 348 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,720 ‏We want to do a taster for my friend Helen 349 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,240 ‏to see if she wants to get involved in surf lifesaving. 350 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,920 ‏With me is my dad and my friend Karina. 351 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,400 ‏We want to get Helen hooked on becoming a lifeguard. 352 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,160 ‏We swim from one end to the other, so from north to south, 353 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,280 ‏but it does get us close to Shark Alley. 354 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,920 ‏The area between the mainland and the island, 355 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,480 ‏we call it Shark Alley because it's a transition point 356 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,800 ‏for some sharks when they don't want to go around the headland, 357 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,640 ‏so they'll just cut through. 358 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 ‏[Tom] If you're swimming in an area of the ocean 359 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,880 ‏which sharks are using as a highway to move in and out, 360 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,240 ‏they will be a little bit more opportunistic, 361 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,800 ‏they'll be looking for a snack if there's one available 362 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,440 ‏to keep them fueled up as they're moving from A to B. 363 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,080 ‏We have to be kind of realistic 364 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,640 ‏that we are swimming near sharks all the time. 365 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,480 ‏It's just I'm very scared of them. They're big and aggressive, 366 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,600 ‏and I don't want to be mistaken for anything in the water. 367 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,320 ‏My primary responsibility for this swim 368 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,600 ‏will be to make sure that we go in with myself and three girls, 369 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,960 ‏and come out with myself and three girls. 370 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,480 ‏Definitely feel safer when I'm with Dad in the water. 371 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,480 ‏I know that if anything happens he's there to help. 372 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,880 ‏[Rob] We'd been swimming maybe just a little bit longer than five minutes. 373 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,960 ‏We began seeing fins approaching us, 374 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:25,800 ‏and obviously there's the initial panic when you see a fin. 375 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,840 ‏You then have to quickly process to see what type of creature it is. 376 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,000 ‏Sharks are always present. In most cases, we're not aware of their presence. 377 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,480 ‏[dramatic music] 378 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,320 ‏Once we clearly identified that the fins that we were seeing 379 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,720 ‏were dolphins... any anxiety drops. 380 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,720 ‏[Nicky] We are excited because Helen's having her first day 381 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600 ‏and she gets to hang out with dolphins. 382 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,840 ‏They are so playful, they swim around, they catch the waves, 383 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,960 ‏and you get to see them do flips and jump out. 384 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,880 ‏And that was gonna be a sure way to get her hooked into surf lifesaving. 385 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,560 ‏-[music bellows] -As time went on, more fins appeared, 386 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,920 ‏and they got closer, and they started circling. 387 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,800 ‏I'm used to having dolphins swimming alongside me, 388 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,480 ‏but this was totally different. 389 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,200 ‏They're starting to swim tight circles around us, 390 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,240 ‏which they don't normally do that aggressively. 391 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,320 ‏We were looking at each other like this is not normal. 392 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,320 ‏There was something happening that we knew nothing about 393 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,240 ‏that was creating this behavior pattern. 394 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,240 ‏The behavior displayed by the dolphins is very, very classic. 395 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,920 ‏It's signs of fitness, it's showing to a potential predator, 396 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640 ‏"Look how strong I am, look how fast I am. 397 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,880 ‏Don't bother trying to catch me, I will fight back." 398 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,120 ‏I was a volunteer surf lifeguard. 399 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,680 ‏It was just a normal day at the beach. You're in the ocean every weekend. 400 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960 ‏If somebody gets in trouble, you're there to help. 401 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,080 ‏We were heading out to join the swimmers, 402 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080 ‏what looked to be having a lot of fun with the dolphins. 403 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:30,280 ‏When I hear the boat, there's an element of relief, but I'm focused on the girls. 404 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,520 ‏We're looking at Dad for some, like, guidance, 405 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,800 ‏like, what is going on here, what are we supposed to do? 406 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,080 ‏The dolphins are going closer to us, 407 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,600 ‏they literally are within centimeters of our face, 408 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,720 ‏and they're getting their tails right next to us, 409 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,400 ‏and they're slapping their tails on the water. 410 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,960 ‏The whole tone changed to aggression, 411 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,880 ‏as if they were either warning us or warning something else. 412 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,880 ‏I'd never heard of dolphins attacking humans before, but it just felt that way. 413 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880 ‏-[dramatic bellow] -[scream] 414 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,640 ‏[Rob] I then noticed that there was a large dolphin heading straight for me. 415 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,080 ‏I saw its back arch in the water, it dived down just before it got to us. 416 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,600 ‏It was a primal reflex, my legs came up to my chest, 417 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,440 ‏and that's when very briefly I saw the shape. 418 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,480 ‏Gray back, and I could see the defined line with the white where it separates. 419 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,600 ‏It's the definition between the gray and the white 420 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,800 ‏that told me that it was a great white. 421 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,960 ‏A shark would be attracted towards the noise of a group of swimmers, 422 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880 ‏because all that splashing and kicking around in the water, 423 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,640 ‏that mimics the sound of a struggling fish, 424 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280 ‏so it's worth a shark coming in to investigate. 425 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,760 ‏[music continues] 426 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,480 ‏When I saw the shark, 427 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,680 ‏I could have quite easily called out to them, "Shark." 428 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,080 ‏I'm not telling the girls, because there was always the risk 429 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,000 ‏that they then broke out of the defensive circle of dolphins 430 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,400 ‏to try and make a break for the rocks. 431 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,000 ‏A great white could just chew you up and spit you out. 432 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,040 ‏[Tom] Sharks will stalk their prey by firstly following a scent trail. 433 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,960 ‏They will then use their lateral line 434 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,600 ‏and their ears to feel vibrations in the water. 435 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,440 ‏Then as they get a little bit closer, they can start to use their eyesight, 436 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,040 ‏and it's only at the very, very end that their electric sensitivity 437 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,760 ‏that they have around their face comes into play. 438 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,360 ‏If something lights up all those different senses, 439 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,640 ‏you're guaranteed that the shark will bite. 440 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,520 ‏So, saw the shark. 441 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,960 ‏I'm trying to remain calm. So you've got the duck principle-- 442 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,720 ‏calm on the top, paddling like hell underneath. 443 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,120 ‏I've been in the water with these dolphins for 40 minutes. 444 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,960 ‏There was a large dolphin heading straight for me... 445 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,320 ‏saw its back arch in the water, 446 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,360 ‏and suddenly the solution to the problem has presented itself. 447 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,880 ‏The dolphin came at us, it was actually targeting the shark 448 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,800 ‏that was coming in from our left. 449 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200 ‏That is a big threat towards the shark. 450 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,680 ‏The dolphin could attack the gills, the eyes, and seriously damage 451 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,280 ‏if not potentially mortally wound the shark, 452 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,680 ‏and a wounded shark is a dead shark. 453 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,480 ‏-[dramatic bellow] -[engine roars] 454 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,680 ‏[Matt] From the boat I see a dolphin swimming along underwater. 455 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,000 ‏So I dive in. 456 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,840 ‏I'm expecting to see a dolphin. I open my eyes and I see... 457 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,840 ‏a great white shark. 458 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,440 ‏[dramatic music] 459 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,280 ‏[Matt] The way the tail of the shark was pointing, 460 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,200 ‏and the way it swam through the water, 461 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 ‏told me instantly that that was not a dolphin, 462 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,600 ‏that was a great white shark, and I'm in the water with it. 463 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,080 ‏There's a moment of shock and panic. 464 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,200 ‏I am scared, not knowing what it's going to do. 465 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,600 ‏I resurface and I look around, and Nev has driven off in the rescue boat. 466 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,920 ‏[suspenseful music] 467 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,240 ‏Only myself and Matt have got an understanding 468 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,880 ‏of what's actually just happened. 469 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,320 ‏I'm looking at the three girls with all the dolphins, 470 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160 ‏and I'm trying to track the direction of the shark. 471 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,000 ‏I can see it angling over to its right. 472 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,880 ‏This shark is over 10 feet long. 473 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,040 ‏And it's arcing around me, heading in the direction of Nicky and Karina 474 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,320 ‏and the dolphins, that at this point now were going absolutely ballistic. 475 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,520 ‏Everything built to a big crescendo, and then... 476 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,480 ‏-[music crescendos] -Everything just went calm. 477 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,120 ‏[wind blowing softly] 478 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,480 ‏The shark disappeared very, very quickly. It was bizarre. 479 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,040 ‏You're actually asking yourself what's just happened? 480 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,120 ‏[Nicky] It's crazy to think what could have happened. 481 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,520 ‏I believe that dolphins came and saved us. 482 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,680 ‏[uplifting music] 483 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,840 ‏[Rob] After the event, the feeling you get is one of awe, 484 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,720 ‏in terms of what that dolphin did when it broke away, 485 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,840 ‏having clearly identified what was going to occur if it didn't intervene. 486 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,720 ‏[Nicky] There was a potentially fatal situation. 487 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,240 ‏They saved our lives and they protected us. 488 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,560 ‏[Rob] These dolphins saved my life, my daughter's life, 489 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,720 ‏and our friends' life from a potential attack coming in... 490 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,160 ‏from a great white shark. 491 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,320 ‏Human interactions with big predatory sharks are certainly rare. 492 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,560 ‏Interactions with whales and dolphins and sharks are rarer still. 493 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,840 ‏But there are shark hot spots around the world 494 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,440 ‏where encounters are more likely to happen. 495 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:46,600 ‏Areas like the Bahamas, Mexico, Australia, and certainly New Zealand. 496 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,520 ‏[dramatic music] 497 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,680 ‏[Tom continues] New Zealand's Cook Strait is a small passage of water 498 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,840 ‏that runs between the North and South Islands 499 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,080 ‏where you'll get blue sharks there, you'll get your mako sharks... 500 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,920 ‏but you will also get great whites. 501 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,960 ‏I'm a long distance endurance swimmer. 502 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,080 ‏I traveled to New Zealand to swim the Cook Strait, 503 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:15,440 ‏which is one of the toughest ocean swims in the world. 504 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,960 ‏What I'm doing is looking to swim across from one end to another. 505 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,960 ‏In the sport that I do, physically, you're unassisted, 506 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,040 ‏you're pushing your body for hours on end, you're swimming all day long. 507 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,080 ‏You can't wear a wetsuit, you got to wear normal swim trunks, 508 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,440 ‏you can't even wear three-quarter shorts, 509 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,760 ‏because they really want you to suffer in this sport. 510 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,440 ‏It's you versus the ocean. 511 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:45,280 ‏It's 18 miles... there's very strong currents, tides, wind, massive swells. 512 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,080 ‏But the reason it's so tough 513 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,640 ‏is because of the physical and mental challenges that it possesses. 514 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,880 ‏Even now I get goose bumps thinking 515 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,760 ‏what an emotional experience it was in that moment. 516 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,920 ‏It was a connection that I'll never forget. 517 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440 ‏-[water splashing] -[dramatic music hums] 518 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,840 ‏This is where I started, you have to go land to land. 519 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,680 ‏So you never go in a straight line when you do a channel swim, 520 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,360 ‏because you're getting pushed. 521 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,240 ‏I'm Gemma Clarke. Adam Walker is my other half. 522 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,920 ‏-[grunts] Eight! And nine! -[baby squeals] 523 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,800 ‏My life changed when I met him, he turned my life upside down 524 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,600 ‏and introduced me to open water swimming. 525 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,600 ‏I don't know if I want him swimming channels. 526 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480 ‏Yeah. He's gonna swim long distance, like your dad. 527 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,280 ‏It was my dream to swim this ocean swim 528 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,280 ‏as part of the toughest seven ocean swims in the world, 529 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,680 ‏and I thought this will be the day that I have no issue, 530 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,760 ‏it'll go absolutely fine, there'll be no problem at all. 531 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480 ‏[man over radio] You've just gone over the 10 kilometer mark... 532 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,680 ‏About three hours into the swim, 533 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,440 ‏I remember swallowing a whole heap of water, 534 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,640 ‏and I started to be sick in the water. 535 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,240 ‏[aid] Focus on your stroke and just get in that rhythm again... 536 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,480 ‏-Yeah. -Okay? 537 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,120 ‏I'm trying to focus on the goal, which is to get across. 538 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,560 ‏You've got to keep the emotions at bay. 539 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,080 ‏And then I'm vomiting, and I remember thinking, 540 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,480 ‏"What have I done to deserve this?" 541 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,920 ‏[dramatic music continues] 542 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,840 ‏I looked up at the sky and I said, "Please, ocean Gods, 543 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,880 ‏give me something positive, anything." 544 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,680 ‏It's hard to watch him swimming in ridiculous currents, 545 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,000 ‏massive waves and everything that's under the ocean 546 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,320 ‏that, you know, that's all that goes through my mind, 547 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,160 ‏-you just don't know what's down there. -[dramatic hiss] 548 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,480 ‏All of a sudden out of nowhere, a fin comes towards me, 549 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,400 ‏and it's not like the Jaws movie, it's a very, very fast, bang. 550 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,080 ‏[dramatic bellow] 551 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,520 ‏[dramatic music] 552 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,560 ‏I'm swimming the Cook Strait 553 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,880 ‏'cause it's one of the toughest seven ocean swims in the world. 554 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,880 ‏[aid] See how that goes. Let me know in the next half hour 555 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,480 ‏how you felt with that drink. 556 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,640 ‏Round about three hours into the swim, 557 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680 ‏all of a sudden out of nowhere, a fin comes towards me. 558 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,920 ‏All of a sudden I've got these fins flanking me side to side. 559 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,240 ‏When I normally swim, I wear a shark device unit 560 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,080 ‏that's supposed to keep sharks away, so it lets off a sonar. 561 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,400 ‏I was gonna put it on for New Zealand, because I heard that great whites 562 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,800 ‏cross through the Cook Strait. 563 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,360 ‏The guy who was organizing the swim says, 564 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,400 ‏"There's no sharks in here, just take it off, 565 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,360 ‏it'll be no problem," so I took it off. 566 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,120 ‏The shark that would be the greatest concern 567 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,440 ‏would probably be the great white. 568 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,480 ‏A lot of sharks coming and going, and when you have an area of high traffic, 569 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,320 ‏it's more likely that someone's gonna bump into you. 570 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,760 ‏[dramatic sting] 571 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,280 ‏You can't focus on the fact that something's gonna happen to you, 572 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,680 ‏you know, you've got to believe that you're gonna be okay. 573 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,040 ‏[aid] Just start focusing on your stroke out in front. 574 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,000 ‏There were points before the swim, and I'd say to him, 575 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,280 ‏"At what point do I get you out?" 576 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080 ‏And he would say, you know, you don't get me out. 577 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,120 ‏Suddenly, out of nowhere, fins. 578 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,880 ‏[eerie music swells] 579 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,840 ‏[Gemma continues] So I'm not just talking one fin, just fins appear. 580 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,840 ‏There's no warning, all these fins surrounding him. 581 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,440 ‏[aid] They've just popped out from nowhere! 582 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,440 ‏It was absolutely incredible. 583 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,760 ‏[music intensifies] 584 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,480 ‏They were flanking me on the side, and one starts circling me. 585 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,640 ‏[man over radio] They normally come and 586 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,320 ‏have a look and then go off in the same way. 587 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,640 ‏[Adam] For 30 minutes they stay with me, and I think they're gonna disappear, 588 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:52,920 ‏they're gonna get bored. 589 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,280 ‏So at that point, I looked down, I saw a much deeper dolphin. 590 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,440 ‏It was moving differently, it was moving from side to side, 591 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,360 ‏the fin look different, everything just looked different about it. 592 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,560 ‏In previous swims I've seen fins, but I passed it off as dolphins. 593 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,400 ‏-I realized actually it wasn't a dolphin. -[music intensifies] 594 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,720 ‏I knew it was a big shark. 595 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,160 ‏Sharks will stalk their prey by firstly following a scent trail, 596 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:29,880 ‏it's the scent that will get them into the nearby area. 597 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,000 ‏It really ran through me that actually this is a potentially dangerous situation. 598 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:44,440 ‏They will use their lateral line and their ears to feel vibrations in the water, 599 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,240 ‏which again gives them an idea of what they're dealing with, 600 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,480 ‏whether it's prey that's swimming fast and well, 601 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,320 ‏or whether they are the throes and struggles of an injured fish. 602 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,240 ‏They're sort of just staying and playing. 603 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,200 ‏They don't know that there's a shark underneath me. 604 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,120 ‏They're shooting around all over the place. 605 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,320 ‏I knew with other swims when people mention shark, 606 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,760 ‏they get you out, the swim's over, it's finished. 607 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,880 ‏So I didn't want that dream to end. I decided not to tell anybody, 608 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,080 ‏because I knew if I mention it, they'll get me out. 609 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,880 ‏Adam sees this shark swimming below him, and in the Cook Strait, great white sharks 610 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,360 ‏are kind of the consummate top predator. Their ambush speed is incredible, 611 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,080 ‏so they like to ambush big prey like seals, sea lions, or even dolphins, 612 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:43,040 ‏by blasting up from below and delivering that debilitating strike right away. 613 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,400 ‏-[water splashing] -[dolphins squeaking] 614 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,200 ‏[Adam] This particular shark was checking me out, 615 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,840 ‏seeing, you know, what's this slow mammal doing in the water? 616 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,760 ‏The dolphins, they were flanking me on the side, 617 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,800 ‏one would circle me, one was in front of me, close to my fingertips. 618 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,320 ‏I've since found out they're called dusky dolphins. 619 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,880 ‏It continued for the next half an hour, 620 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,440 ‏and then I really think, okay, there's something in this. 621 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,480 ‏Why are they staying engaged with me all that time? 622 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,720 ‏And at that point, I think it must be the shark. 623 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,760 ‏[Mike] It's really hard to say what these dolphins were doing 624 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,680 ‏when they came across Adam. 625 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,600 ‏They're keeping him in the middle of them. Could that be what they'd do 626 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,800 ‏if they were trying to protect something from a shark? Yes. 627 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,000 ‏-[squeaking] -[dramatic music] 628 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,560 ‏Dolphins are curious animals, and just the novelty of a swimmer in the water 629 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,520 ‏might be enough for them to just kind of hang out 630 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,440 ‏for an extended period of time. 631 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,280 ‏This particular shark tracked me for a period of time. 632 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,760 ‏In this sport, you cannot show fear... 633 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,200 ‏You can't focus on the demons that are in your head. 634 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,280 ‏I remember looking back down after another half an hour, and I couldn't see it. 635 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:10,400 ‏And I thought, "Thanks, dolphins, for your support." 636 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,280 ‏And at that point... they disappeared forever. 637 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,160 ‏-[squeaking] -[gentle music] 638 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,920 ‏It took me 8 hours, 39 minutes, 639 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,400 ‏and the most amazing journey I've ever had in my life. 640 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,080 ‏All I can tell you is how I felt. I felt well protected, 641 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,800 ‏and I don't think it was luck or by chance, 642 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,320 ‏maybe five minutes, maybe half an hour, but not an hour and a half. 643 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,120 ‏So can dolphins save people from shark attacks? 644 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680 ‏I think the answer we've seen is that they can. 645 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,720 ‏What we don't know is, is their motivation to save people, 646 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,520 ‏or to get sharks out of the area generally? 647 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,600 ‏[Nicky] We still talk about the day it happened. 648 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,680 ‏[music continues] 649 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,440 ‏It's crazy to think if those dolphins weren't there what could have happened. 650 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840 ‏That shark was obviously stalking us. 651 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,880 ‏100%, I believe we were saved by dolphins. 652 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,960 ‏I'll always, always feel indebted to the dolphins for giving me that moment 653 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,680 ‏and allowing me to live the life I want to live 654 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,120 ‏-and be the Adam I want to be. -[music intensifies] 655 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,400 ‏There's no doubt about it, I've sent that footage to all these different people 656 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,680 ‏that know and understand behavior of animals, 657 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:40,040 ‏and not one single person has thought that this whale was not protecting me. 658 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,920 ‏I know the answer to life now, and the answer to life is happiness. 659 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,000 ‏It's brought back a lot of memories, and it's brought back that day, 660 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,200 ‏and it was extremely traumatic for me, but far more traumatic for you. 661 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,600 ‏[Martin] When I die, if I have that feeling of contentment, 662 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,200 ‏like I did back then, I'd be more than happy. 64352

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