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- You okay?
- Fine.
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Scared.
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Your taxi.
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I'm so sorry, Sheila.
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Thank you.
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I know you're in there!
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Ray!
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Ray!
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Sir Phillip. Asil.
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Your son sent me.
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- Mr Slater.
- No, no, no, no, no.
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You said you were coming tomorrow.
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- We need to do it now, I'm afraid.
- What...
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Well, it's their anniversary.
We were having a...
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Sorry.
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Everyone listen up, please!
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Can you listen to me, please?
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Can someone turn the music off, please?
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What on earth is going on?
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We'll speak to you
in one second, Mr Slater.
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Okay, we have a warrant
to search this property,
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alongside the gardens
and the outbuildings.
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So I'm afraid the party is over.
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And with the exception
of the immediate Slater family,
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we would like you to leave as quickly
and as quietly as possible, please.
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Thank you.
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Hi, this is Lizzie.Please leave a message.
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Hello, love. It's me, again.
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Please call,
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even if it's just to say
that you're safe.
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I love you, babe,
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very much.
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Okay, Mr Slater. So earlier tonight...
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- Am I under arrest?
- No, you're not under arrest.
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And you're free to leave
any time you choose
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but we hope you'll want to help us
with our investigation and, um...
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give us your side of things.
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My... My side of what things?
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I am going to caution you, though,
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and tell you that
you do not have to say anything
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but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention when questioned
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anything you later rely on in court.
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Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
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My side of what things?
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As I was saying, um, earlier tonight,
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your son rang our station
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following a conversation
he had this evening.
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What? He rang you from our party?
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He did.
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And I spoke to both him and your wife
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and she confirmed
what she had told your son.
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Which is that she believes
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you buried a body in woodland
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at the bottom of your garden,
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sometime in the late part of 1978.
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That... That's just not true.
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I mean, you must know,
she has no idea what she's saying.
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You know, it's... It's not true.
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You must know that.
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It... It is not true.
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Yes, I pressed her,
of course I did,
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- repeatedly, for specific detail.
- She actually said...
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She actually said she saw him
digging a hole in the copse
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in the middle of the night
and then he got something...
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- Stuck it down there.
- Something?
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It was probably a carpet, Matt.
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'Cause that's what a sane man does
in the middle of the night, isn't it?
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You think she's sane?
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According to you mate, she's fine,
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a little forgetful,
but other than that, fine.
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She actually said
that she thought it was a body?
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Yeah. Yeah, she did.
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And she waits 40 years
to tell anyone?
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Which is why when she did
I just felt I...
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I had to call the police.
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But I swear this, I never meant...
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I never meant for this
on their anniversary.
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They said they're taking them
both to Ely,
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I think one of us should go there,
be there for them.
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Fine, you go. I'll... I'll wait here.
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Matt, all I want
is for me to be as wrong
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as I've ever been about anything.
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I don't care if Mum and Dad
never spoke to me ever again.
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I just want to be wrong.
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How far's their nick?
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- Ten minutes.
- Hmm.
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Their guvnor asked
if we could give him an ETA.
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- Is the house clear of guests?
- Yeah, clear now.
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Tell him...
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Tell him we have absolutely no idea.
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How many friends you have, man?
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Where is she?
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Ray?
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Where have you taken her?
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- Where have I...
- My wife.
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What have you done to her?
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I don't know where your
nigger-hating wife is, Ray.
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Now, piss off
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before I bust you up proper.
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I want to say...
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I want you to know,
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if I've never said it before,
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it has tortured me every single day
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of my life...
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... what I did.
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Every single day.
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And I'm so sorry.
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Come on.
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Come on. Hup, hup.
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Dog's been through the whole house
three times.
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There's nothing there.
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What do we think this is now, guv?
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Do you think we could have
multiple bodies out there?
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That Jimmy was just one of many?
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We think...
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We have to take it seriously,
what she said, we have to but...
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Claire Slater's a woman
who's losing her mind
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so, we think, we hope...
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I hope that she's wrong.
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And that there's nothing here.
Nothing at all.
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Coming.
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Hello?
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Oh, it's Sheila
from the community centre.
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Oh, hi, Sheila. Hang on.
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Hi.
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I'm so sorry
to disturb you this early, Grace.
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It's fine. Are you okay?
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- Do you want to come in?
- Oh, no, no, no. I'll be very quick.
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I just thought you had a right to know.
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I had to go down
to the police station last night
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and tell them it was Robert
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who stole the money
from the community hall safe.
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He admitted it to me yesterday.
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And also that he'd been stealing
from the church for quite some time.
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And you.
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He told me he'd stolen some of
your jewellery. Wouldn't tell me why.
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Oh, he needs help, Grace.
He really does.
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God bless.
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You wait for it all your life,
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the knock on the door.
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And one day you wake up
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and realise your life
is the knock on the door.
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The police never came. There was...
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no trial, no prison sentence,
but you were punished.
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What you got, Lulu?
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Show me, then. Good girl.
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What you got?
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Okay, we've got something!
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Steady, steady.
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How sure?
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If it were me, I'd dig.
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We need a tent down here, please!
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Yeah, you need to get up.
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Well, thank you for taking time
to speak to me. I know...
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Don't be silly, Grace.
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I'm just so sorry.
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And I want you to know we're all
thinking of you and praying for you,
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all of you.
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Thank you, Geoff.
Bye. Bye-bye, now.
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They think he might've been
stealing money for years.
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Tens of thousands.
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Spent on what?
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Don't know.
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Wasn't on us, though, was it?
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That was my grandmother's ring.
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How can you know someone
your whole life and then...
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How does this happen?
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How do you think people deal with it?
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Deal with what?
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Ma'am.
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All these cases where
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people pretend to be one thing
for half a century
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and then turn out to be something else.
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Wonder if they still love 'em?
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Or do you just cut off?
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Say, "I'm sorry.
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"Loved someone else.
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"I loved the person you said you were."
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Here!
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We found something!
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- What is it?
- Just there.
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Oh, no.
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Robert?
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Good morning.
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Morning, Geoff.
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So, uh...
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Grace rang me.
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Sheila went round there this morning
after she'd been to the police.
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Okay.
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So, how should I do this?
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Do you want me to speak
to our mob first or...
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Well,
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we would, of course, love to know
what you've been spending it all on.
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But I think you owe it to Grace
to tell her first.
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I'll drive you round there,
if you like, and then to the police.
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Well, for what it's worth,
none of it was for me.
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And I'll walk, thanks.
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Robert.
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Don't try and stop me, Geoff.
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Please.
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I may look old and doddery
but I could still snap you in two.
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- You thought it'd be female?
- No, no. I just...
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I'm looking for theories as to how
a fairly unremarkable bookkeeper
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ends up connected to two murders
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and some love triangle connection
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between Eric and, um,
Jimmy and Joanna Bridges
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seemed like one possibility
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but as you might guess,
I'm slightly struggling.
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Hiya. Are you one of the Slaters?
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Is it a body, then?
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Les, don't go away, talk to me.
Is there a body there, Les?
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Are there any more?
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Police have confirmed
that a 76-year-old man
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is being interviewed in connection
with the murder of James Sullivan
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nearly 40 years ago.
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Reports that further remains have been
found near the suspect's house
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have not yet been confirmed.
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Sullivan, who was only 17
when he disappeared in 1976...
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Hello?
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They've arrested someone, Dad,
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for James Sullivan's murder.
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It's on the news. Switch it on.
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They've found another body
in the back of his bloody garden,
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so Fenwick can send them the photos
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but I don't think they're going to be
too interested now.
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You're in the clear, Dad.
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... where his remains
were recently found by workers...
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Dad, are you there?
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I couldn't have left your mum
on her own, Belle.
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Sorry?
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I mean, I couldn't let Fenwick
do that to her.
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What have they done?
What did you tell the Turks to do?
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I only spoke to them late last night.
They haven't done anything yet.
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I'll just... call them off.
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Ask him what his last hours were,
will you?
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My boy's.
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If it is him,
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I do want you to prepare yourself
for the fact that he...
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He might not want to help us.
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It sometimes goes like that.
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But ask him.
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And if he tells you,
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however bad it is,
I want you to promise me
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you'll tell me what he says.
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I will. Uh, I promise.
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However bad it is.
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Can't be as bad
as I've spent a lifetime imagining.
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Think, Curtis.
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Where would she go?
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If you were her, what would you do?
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Uh, did she ever talk about, you know,
somewhere or someone,
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uh, she felt safe with or...
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Ray, I'm not interested. Okay?
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I don't give a fuck, mate.
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I'd never abandon you.
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I won't abandon her.
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I hope you won't, either.
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00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,149
And so you have absolutely no idea
how the body got there?
260
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,834
Well, of course,
it's all I've been thinking about.
261
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,629
And?
262
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,788
What...
263
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,552
No. No idea.
264
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,635
All I can think is
265
00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:05,629
I got friendly with a lot of
the residents of Arlingham House.
266
00:23:05,719 --> 00:23:07,994
I stayed in touch with some of them.
267
00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:12,072
And a few came to visit us
over the years.
268
00:23:12,999 --> 00:23:17,629
I took people on face value,
uh, DCI Stuart,
269
00:23:17,719 --> 00:23:20,677
and maybe, maybe I was naive.
270
00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:24,195
A lot of these people
had very dark pasts.
271
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:30,196
So, are you, um, suggesting that maybe
an ex-resident put the body there?
272
00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:32,235
No, I'm just guessing.
273
00:23:36,679 --> 00:23:37,998
Can you give me names?
274
00:23:38,078 --> 00:23:40,638
Oh, no, I can never remember names.
275
00:23:40,718 --> 00:23:44,791
I mean, maybe it wasn't but, uh,
you know, it's a remote spot.
276
00:23:44,878 --> 00:23:46,948
I just know it wasn't me.
277
00:23:47,038 --> 00:23:49,506
So, like you, I'm struggling.
278
00:23:51,078 --> 00:23:52,955
Are you sure
it was your husband, Claire?
279
00:23:54,798 --> 00:23:56,754
Am I sure who was my husband?
280
00:24:01,958 --> 00:24:04,916
You said you think you saw your husband
281
00:24:06,158 --> 00:24:08,513
putting a body into the ground.
282
00:24:09,838 --> 00:24:11,317
Are you sure it was him?
283
00:24:13,558 --> 00:24:15,116
When did I say that?
284
00:24:20,397 --> 00:24:22,513
Why don't you just tell me
who it is, Eric?
285
00:24:23,797 --> 00:24:27,312
How can I tell you who it is
if I didn't know he was down there?
286
00:24:28,957 --> 00:24:30,231
I didn't say it was a man.
287
00:24:30,317 --> 00:24:34,026
Oh, please. It's a figure of speech.
288
00:24:34,117 --> 00:24:35,755
I don't know anything about it.
289
00:24:40,397 --> 00:24:42,911
Do you have any idea
who the body is, Claire?
290
00:24:45,997 --> 00:24:47,146
Is Carol coming?
291
00:24:48,957 --> 00:24:52,074
No, Carol's not coming.
292
00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:53,510
Do you know who it is?
293
00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:59,305
Do you know what, I think we
should leave it there, don't you?
294
00:25:00,436 --> 00:25:01,994
My client...
295
00:25:05,436 --> 00:25:06,915
Sometimes I have these...
296
00:25:09,196 --> 00:25:10,914
These memories are so clear.
297
00:25:12,196 --> 00:25:13,424
Memories of what?
298
00:25:15,756 --> 00:25:17,633
Memories of what, Claire?
299
00:25:19,756 --> 00:25:22,634
I just want it all to end.
300
00:25:29,356 --> 00:25:32,631
How can he still be out of signal?
I rang you half a fucking hour ago.
301
00:25:34,395 --> 00:25:36,545
Look, I don't care how you do it.
Just do it.
302
00:25:36,635 --> 00:25:39,593
Just get someone to stop him.
303
00:25:50,075 --> 00:25:51,793
Police have now confirmed
304
00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:54,787
that a second body was found
in the garden of the suspect,
305
00:25:54,915 --> 00:25:59,466
who has been identified only as
a 73-year-old Cambridgeshire man.
306
00:25:59,595 --> 00:26:03,986
James Sullivan, who went missing
in 1976, has been the subject of a...
307
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:11,828
So I'll get them both
driven down to town now.
308
00:26:11,914 --> 00:26:14,030
I've informed the sons
about what's happening,
309
00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:15,706
they'll make their way down.
310
00:26:15,794 --> 00:26:19,184
You and me can get a bit of shut-eye
and start fresh this afternoon.
311
00:26:20,354 --> 00:26:23,903
With any luck, uh, we should have a bit
more information on the body by then.
312
00:26:23,994 --> 00:26:25,393
Great.
313
00:26:25,474 --> 00:26:26,793
So, you okay to drive?
314
00:26:27,954 --> 00:26:29,672
Yeah, I'm good. Thanks.
315
00:26:34,554 --> 00:26:36,431
Can you bell Jake Collier,
would you?
316
00:26:37,394 --> 00:26:39,988
Ask him to speak to his witness
Mackie again,
317
00:26:40,074 --> 00:26:41,268
about Eric Slater.
318
00:26:42,514 --> 00:26:44,869
I want to know everything there is
to know about him.
319
00:27:29,192 --> 00:27:30,307
Lizzie?
320
00:27:37,072 --> 00:27:38,551
Um...
321
00:27:38,632 --> 00:27:40,588
Um, when she took me to see Hamlet,
322
00:27:40,672 --> 00:27:43,664
there were some people
down by the theatre who knew her.
323
00:27:43,752 --> 00:27:46,744
People she gave money to.
Like, homeless people and that.
324
00:27:47,592 --> 00:27:51,267
Um, she knew their names
and some of them knew hers.
325
00:27:51,352 --> 00:27:52,467
We'll need a photo.
326
00:28:04,632 --> 00:28:06,030
Steady.
327
00:28:13,591 --> 00:28:14,865
Brush.
328
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:52,704
Bye.
329
00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:58,265
He fell asleep smoking, apparently.
330
00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:04,623
Bed caught fire. Whole house went up.
331
00:29:08,270 --> 00:29:10,340
Wouldn't have known a thing.
332
00:29:14,110 --> 00:29:15,828
I've told him I'll be back by 7:00.
333
00:29:15,910 --> 00:29:18,663
I thought we could all go out,
have a curry or something.
334
00:29:21,630 --> 00:29:24,666
And if you fancy taking
your granddad for a drink before.
335
00:29:26,189 --> 00:29:29,386
He's a bit low at the moment,
he could do with a bit of cheering up.
336
00:29:29,469 --> 00:29:31,221
- Take him down the Feathers?
- Not the Feathers.
337
00:29:31,309 --> 00:29:33,869
- They still have pole dancers?
- They're mainly Bulgarian now.
338
00:29:34,029 --> 00:29:35,303
Brilliant.
339
00:29:35,389 --> 00:29:37,186
I meant a nice chat
over a pint somewhere quiet,
340
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:40,864
not in front of naked women
showing you their insides.
341
00:29:41,549 --> 00:29:44,063
You don't want a heart attack
on your conscience, do you?
342
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:48,983
It's a misconception
that plastic doesn't degrade.
343
00:29:49,069 --> 00:29:52,539
It does but not through bacteria,
through light.
344
00:29:53,589 --> 00:29:57,502
Luckily for us, there isn't
a lot of light six feet under,
345
00:29:57,589 --> 00:29:59,944
which is why this little beauty
346
00:30:01,908 --> 00:30:03,978
could still probably buy your lunch.
347
00:30:05,348 --> 00:30:06,463
Jeez!
348
00:30:06,548 --> 00:30:09,858
So, obviously we can't confirm
anything until we get a DNA match,
349
00:30:09,948 --> 00:30:11,859
but we have good reason to believe
350
00:30:11,948 --> 00:30:14,701
that the remains are those
of Nicholas Howard Whitmore,
351
00:30:14,788 --> 00:30:16,380
known as Nick.
352
00:30:16,468 --> 00:30:20,143
He was born 12th of January, 1954,
in Godstone, Surrey.
353
00:30:21,148 --> 00:30:22,706
He's a son and a brother.
354
00:30:23,548 --> 00:30:28,178
So, Nick was, um, last seen
on December the 30th, 1978,
355
00:30:28,268 --> 00:30:30,907
at a Clash concert at the Lyceum
in the West End.
356
00:30:32,868 --> 00:30:35,428
At the time of his disappearance,
he lived in Hammersmith
357
00:30:35,508 --> 00:30:38,068
and he was training to be a nurse.
358
00:30:38,627 --> 00:30:41,346
Now, he disappeared
about two and a half years after Jimmy,
359
00:30:41,427 --> 00:30:46,899
but crucially, at least two years after
the Slaters moved in to their house.
360
00:30:48,067 --> 00:30:51,696
Can we assume that the body went in
the ground close to the time of death?
361
00:30:51,787 --> 00:30:53,379
We'll assume nothing yet.
362
00:30:53,467 --> 00:30:56,061
Any obvious connections
to Arlingham House or to Jimmy?
363
00:30:56,147 --> 00:30:59,742
No, not yet. Um, but we've made
preliminary contact with Nick's family
364
00:30:59,827 --> 00:31:02,387
and I'll be able to speak to them
properly later today.
365
00:31:02,467 --> 00:31:05,903
Okay, Murray, um, the original
investigation determined
366
00:31:05,987 --> 00:31:08,660
that the bank card was last used
in a pub in Hampstead.
367
00:31:08,747 --> 00:31:10,385
It was called the King George.
368
00:31:10,467 --> 00:31:13,584
And that was on
the 31 st of December, 1978.
369
00:31:13,667 --> 00:31:15,897
So in an ideal world,
370
00:31:15,987 --> 00:31:21,265
um, we'd need to place Eric Slater in or
around that area on that same evening.
371
00:31:22,106 --> 00:31:23,380
It's a tough one, I know.
372
00:31:23,466 --> 00:31:24,740
- Got it.
- Okay.
373
00:31:24,826 --> 00:31:27,863
- Jake, where are you with Mackie?
- Seeing him at 6:00.
374
00:31:29,506 --> 00:31:31,815
And is there anything else
coming through from the house?
375
00:31:31,906 --> 00:31:35,581
No, no. Nothing more from the house,
the garden or the copse.
376
00:31:35,666 --> 00:31:37,145
Okay, that's good.
377
00:31:39,026 --> 00:31:40,300
That's it for now.
378
00:31:41,346 --> 00:31:42,540
Thank you, everyone.
379
00:31:42,626 --> 00:31:46,221
Guv, surely we've got the wife saying
she saw him put the body in the ground.
380
00:31:46,306 --> 00:31:50,140
Actually, it's becoming clear
that she has no idea what she saw.
381
00:31:51,546 --> 00:31:54,742
And no jury would ever convict him
on her testimony alone so...
382
00:31:56,465 --> 00:31:57,693
we need more.
383
00:31:57,785 --> 00:31:59,377
We need much, much more.
384
00:32:05,265 --> 00:32:06,664
The woman...
385
00:32:09,865 --> 00:32:14,416
The girl, Joanna,
that I had a relationship with,
386
00:32:17,945 --> 00:32:20,664
uh, she got pregnant
387
00:32:20,745 --> 00:32:23,054
and she said that it was by me.
388
00:32:24,905 --> 00:32:28,659
So, obviously, I offered to pay
for the termination.
389
00:32:32,864 --> 00:32:35,742
And I thought she'd done
what she wanted.
390
00:32:39,344 --> 00:32:40,697
Two years later,
391
00:32:42,384 --> 00:32:44,944
she rang me and told me that
392
00:32:45,024 --> 00:32:47,584
actually, she hadn't been able
to go through with it...
393
00:32:51,584 --> 00:32:53,495
...and she'd had the baby.
394
00:32:55,864 --> 00:32:57,536
I was shocked
395
00:33:00,064 --> 00:33:01,292
and scared.
396
00:33:03,744 --> 00:33:06,702
But I said I would support them,
the baby.
397
00:33:07,864 --> 00:33:13,381
And I did so until the child,
Thea, was 18.
398
00:33:14,703 --> 00:33:16,136
Thea's now 38
399
00:33:17,663 --> 00:33:19,494
and she's made her way in life.
400
00:33:19,583 --> 00:33:23,496
And as her father,
I've tried to help out as best I could.
401
00:33:25,343 --> 00:33:28,938
Sometimes with emotional support,
402
00:33:30,423 --> 00:33:32,459
sometimes with money.
403
00:33:32,543 --> 00:33:33,896
Not fortunes.
404
00:33:34,983 --> 00:33:36,462
A hundred,
405
00:33:37,943 --> 00:33:39,615
occasionally a thousand.
406
00:33:42,903 --> 00:33:46,942
But always with money I didn't have.
407
00:33:50,022 --> 00:33:52,013
So I stole it.
408
00:33:55,022 --> 00:33:59,413
I am now and always have been
deeply ashamed by this.
409
00:34:01,542 --> 00:34:03,897
I'm going to the police station now.
410
00:34:03,982 --> 00:34:05,700
I'm not running from anything.
411
00:34:08,502 --> 00:34:10,891
I just wanted to give you the facts.
412
00:34:12,382 --> 00:34:14,100
Give you a chance to digest them.
413
00:34:34,141 --> 00:34:35,460
You bastard!
414
00:34:37,021 --> 00:34:38,977
Bastard! Bastard!
415
00:34:39,061 --> 00:34:40,858
No, please, please.
416
00:34:40,941 --> 00:34:42,613
You bastard!
417
00:36:01,979 --> 00:36:05,733
I'd like to start, Eric, if you
don't mind, by going back to Jimmy.
418
00:36:05,819 --> 00:36:07,411
Of course.
419
00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:11,811
And seeing, um, if you can help me out
with something that's been troubling me.
420
00:36:11,899 --> 00:36:14,049
Well, if I can help, I will.
421
00:36:14,139 --> 00:36:17,415
Okay, so, I now think
that the assault on Paul West
422
00:36:17,499 --> 00:36:19,569
was actually
nothing to do with football.
423
00:36:20,179 --> 00:36:23,966
But was, as his sister said,
a homophobic attack.
424
00:36:24,058 --> 00:36:25,696
I...
425
00:36:26,818 --> 00:36:29,810
Well, I must confess,
I couldn't see a link
426
00:36:29,898 --> 00:36:32,810
between West's attack
and Jimmy's murder.
427
00:36:32,938 --> 00:36:35,213
I mean, Jimmy was, um,
428
00:36:35,578 --> 00:36:40,493
clearly in a long-term heterosexual
relationship with Joanna Bridges.
429
00:36:40,578 --> 00:36:41,897
Yes, Jo Jo.
430
00:36:41,978 --> 00:36:43,650
- Exactly.
- Hmm.
431
00:36:44,218 --> 00:36:47,813
But what I didn't know,
uh, until earlier today,
432
00:36:48,698 --> 00:36:51,417
um, when a colleague of mine
433
00:36:51,498 --> 00:36:54,092
spoke to an old friend of Jimmy's
from the hostel
434
00:36:54,178 --> 00:36:56,897
was that when Jimmy
first came to London,
435
00:36:56,978 --> 00:36:58,730
uh, he was homeless and broke
436
00:36:58,818 --> 00:37:03,174
with no obvious way of, um,
making money.
437
00:37:04,057 --> 00:37:07,527
He did what a lot of young runaways
did back then,
438
00:37:07,617 --> 00:37:09,926
which was to work as a male prostitute.
439
00:37:12,137 --> 00:37:15,015
Now, in the months before he was killed,
440
00:37:15,097 --> 00:37:17,736
we know that Jimmy, um, borrowed
50 pounds from a gang
441
00:37:17,817 --> 00:37:19,694
to pay for an abortion for Jo Jo
442
00:37:19,777 --> 00:37:22,211
and that that money,
um, was then stolen.
443
00:37:22,977 --> 00:37:25,047
So he desperately needed money.
444
00:37:26,177 --> 00:37:28,896
Another 50 for the abortion
445
00:37:28,977 --> 00:37:31,332
and the original 50
to pay back to the gang.
446
00:37:31,977 --> 00:37:33,012
Mmm.
447
00:37:33,737 --> 00:37:36,376
Now, he tried to sell a car
448
00:37:37,537 --> 00:37:39,174
but like you said,
449
00:37:39,256 --> 00:37:41,816
- um, everybody knew it was stolen.
- Mmm.
450
00:37:41,896 --> 00:37:45,445
So, in his desperation
to find the money,
451
00:37:46,616 --> 00:37:48,527
we think he went back to selling sex.
452
00:37:49,536 --> 00:37:50,730
How awful.
453
00:37:52,096 --> 00:37:54,326
- And you found out about that.
- No.
454
00:37:55,096 --> 00:38:00,170
And because I think you had
a violent hatred of homosexuals,
455
00:38:00,976 --> 00:38:05,174
at some point in July, 1976,
456
00:38:06,656 --> 00:38:08,089
you murdered him
457
00:38:08,896 --> 00:38:12,127
and buried his body in the cellar
of Arlingham House.
458
00:38:13,016 --> 00:38:14,449
Absolutely not.
459
00:38:15,296 --> 00:38:20,005
I had absolutely no idea about
any of what you've just told me.
460
00:38:20,655 --> 00:38:22,054
Well, that's interesting.
461
00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:26,927
Because Jimmy's friend says
not only did you pretty much know
462
00:38:27,015 --> 00:38:29,483
everything the residents were up to,
463
00:38:29,575 --> 00:38:35,366
but that you'd told him you'd seen
Jimmy servicing a male client
464
00:38:35,935 --> 00:38:38,495
down an alley,
behind a Hampstead queer pub.
465
00:38:39,175 --> 00:38:40,608
What friend?
466
00:38:40,735 --> 00:38:44,205
A resident of Arlingham House
called Alan Mackay.
467
00:38:44,295 --> 00:38:46,286
- Known as Mackie.
- Hmm.
468
00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:49,333
Never...
Never heard of him.
469
00:38:49,415 --> 00:38:52,851
And listen, half that lot were drug
addicts, the rest were alcoholics.
470
00:38:52,935 --> 00:38:55,573
Do you really trust
what any of them have to say?
471
00:38:55,654 --> 00:38:59,090
Well, these are the same people you
say you invited to your house, Eric.
472
00:38:59,174 --> 00:39:01,210
I don't think I've ever even been
to Hampstead.
473
00:39:01,294 --> 00:39:03,012
I had no idea Jimmy was doing
what you were saying.
474
00:39:03,094 --> 00:39:04,846
And what the hell this has to do
with this other lad.
475
00:39:04,934 --> 00:39:07,767
Well, let me tell you, because, um,
476
00:39:08,814 --> 00:39:13,649
today I've been talking with
Nick Whitmore's sister and father.
477
00:39:14,134 --> 00:39:17,331
And that was his name, by the way.
478
00:39:17,414 --> 00:39:19,006
Here's the thing, Eric.
479
00:39:21,574 --> 00:39:24,771
It turns out that Nick was gay.
480
00:39:26,494 --> 00:39:30,407
That Nick often frequented
gay bars and pubs.
481
00:39:30,494 --> 00:39:34,202
And in particular,
a pub called the King George.
482
00:39:36,453 --> 00:39:37,772
In Hampstead.
483
00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:40,890
Look, like I just said,
don't think I've ever been there.
484
00:39:43,213 --> 00:39:45,443
Do you know when the cash
dispenser was invented?
485
00:39:45,893 --> 00:39:48,088
- No.
- 1967.
486
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:53,132
First one ever used in the whole
world was in Enfield, by Reg Varney.
487
00:39:54,213 --> 00:39:55,441
Do you remember him?
488
00:39:55,533 --> 00:39:56,761
On the Buses.
489
00:39:56,853 --> 00:39:58,002
Vaguely.
490
00:39:59,373 --> 00:40:03,844
So by 1978, there were hundreds,
all round the country.
491
00:40:04,653 --> 00:40:10,011
And there was one
at 364 Haverstock Hill, Hampstead.
492
00:40:11,013 --> 00:40:12,809
About 20 yards from the King George.
493
00:40:17,932 --> 00:40:20,287
You're one for keeping records,
aren't you, Eric?
494
00:40:21,772 --> 00:40:25,162
Must be the, uh, the bookkeeper in you,
I suppose.
495
00:40:27,492 --> 00:40:31,201
This is a copy of a document, we found
this in your, in your house earlier.
496
00:40:32,732 --> 00:40:34,563
Can you tell me the date
of this statement?
497
00:40:34,972 --> 00:40:36,530
December, 1978.
498
00:40:37,292 --> 00:40:40,443
And look at the entry dated,
uh, the 31 st of December.
499
00:40:40,532 --> 00:40:41,806
What does it detail?
500
00:40:42,932 --> 00:40:45,400
Uh, a cashpoint withdrawal.
501
00:40:46,892 --> 00:40:48,041
Ten pounds.
502
00:40:48,892 --> 00:40:53,328
And that number by the entry
corresponds to a specific machine.
503
00:40:55,811 --> 00:40:57,164
Do you know which one it is?
504
00:41:00,651 --> 00:41:02,323
Well, we rang the bank
and we asked them.
505
00:41:04,251 --> 00:41:06,765
It's for a cashpoint on Haverstock Hill.
506
00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:11,123
Number 364. Right next to the pub.
507
00:41:16,571 --> 00:41:19,961
So we can now place you,
uh, within 20 yards
508
00:41:20,051 --> 00:41:22,281
of the last known whereabouts
of Nicholas Whitmore.
509
00:41:23,571 --> 00:41:27,405
So we now have a connection
between his murder and Jimmy's.
510
00:41:29,650 --> 00:41:32,244
On top of the numerous connections
to you and Jimmy.
511
00:41:34,330 --> 00:41:38,243
And of course, Nicholas's body
was found in your garden.
512
00:41:40,930 --> 00:41:44,286
The CPS are going to charge you, Eric,
513
00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:46,167
with both their murders.
514
00:41:46,610 --> 00:41:49,841
Which means that, um,
now is the opportunity
515
00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:52,080
for you to think about
the victims' families
516
00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:54,998
and tell us the truth
about what actually happened.
517
00:42:01,370 --> 00:42:03,361
But I didn't do it.
518
00:42:06,929 --> 00:42:10,239
Eric Michael Slater,
you are charged that on a date
519
00:42:10,329 --> 00:42:12,524
between the 1 st of June, 1976,
520
00:42:12,609 --> 00:42:14,839
and the 1 st of January, 1977,
521
00:42:14,929 --> 00:42:19,047
that you did unlawfully murder
James Niall Sullivan,
522
00:42:19,569 --> 00:42:21,127
contrary to common law.
523
00:42:21,609 --> 00:42:25,363
You are also charged
on the 31 st of December, 1978,
524
00:42:25,489 --> 00:42:29,277
that you did unlawfully murder
Nicholas Howard Whitmore,
525
00:42:29,369 --> 00:42:30,882
contrary to common law.
526
00:42:32,209 --> 00:42:33,961
Do you have anything to say?
527
00:42:54,448 --> 00:42:59,647
I just thought he was going to use them
to scare Fenwick.
528
00:43:00,288 --> 00:43:01,357
Josh,
529
00:43:03,608 --> 00:43:05,439
we'll be okay.
530
00:43:05,528 --> 00:43:07,325
It's going to be okay.
531
00:43:10,368 --> 00:43:12,723
He's paid for a man
to be murdered, Bella.
532
00:43:14,128 --> 00:43:15,481
Our father.
533
00:43:17,528 --> 00:43:20,486
It's not ever going to be okay.
534
00:44:39,005 --> 00:44:40,199
What is it?
535
00:44:40,765 --> 00:44:42,198
DCI Stuart.
536
00:44:44,165 --> 00:44:46,554
I need to tell her I didn't kill them...
537
00:44:52,005 --> 00:44:53,961
but I know who did.
538
00:44:56,945 --> 00:45:04,945
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