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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,110 --> 00:00:01,810 David Walker had a lot of secrets. 2 00:00:01,860 --> 00:00:03,770 We've just found another -- Ellen Price. 3 00:00:03,820 --> 00:00:05,290 If they got friendly with him, 4 00:00:05,340 --> 00:00:07,090 they'd get invited to the gatherings. 5 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:10,330 She was 12 years old. David Walker sexually assaulted her. 6 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:12,890 If this is true, I promise you, I knew nothing about it. 7 00:00:12,940 --> 00:00:15,980 You clearly had no idea what sort of a person your husband was. 8 00:00:16,060 --> 00:00:18,970 We need to consider the possibility that one of these people 9 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:21,330 were assaulted by Walker. The question is, which? 10 00:00:21,380 --> 00:00:23,130 What the hell have you done? 11 00:00:23,180 --> 00:00:26,050 Don't blame me! She was the one who done it in the first place. 12 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:28,170 - What do you want? - What we want is 20 grand 13 00:00:28,220 --> 00:00:29,490 or we tell social services 14 00:00:29,540 --> 00:00:32,610 about your husband being interviewed in connection with a murder. 15 00:00:32,660 --> 00:00:35,770 The city in the '80s, was it really as brutal as everyone says? 16 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:38,860 - It screwed me up so much, I could have killed someone. - Did it? 17 00:00:38,940 --> 00:00:42,860 An allegation was made by a Maria Gonzalez. She said he raped her. 18 00:00:42,940 --> 00:00:45,410 The police have found people that I hung about with... 19 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:47,370 - in the '80s. - What people? 20 00:00:47,420 --> 00:00:48,490 IRA. 21 00:00:48,540 --> 00:00:52,860 - Did you ever see her with this man? - No... 22 00:00:52,940 --> 00:00:55,280 but she wanted us to kill him. 23 00:01:03,860 --> 00:01:06,140 ♪ All we do is hide away 24 00:01:07,660 --> 00:01:10,400 ♪ All we do is, all we do is hide away 25 00:01:11,540 --> 00:01:13,740 ♪ All we do is lie and wait 26 00:01:15,260 --> 00:01:18,130 ♪ All we do is, all we do is lie and wait 27 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:22,740 ♪ I've been upside-down 28 00:01:22,820 --> 00:01:26,500 ♪ I don't wanna be the right way round 29 00:01:26,580 --> 00:01:30,140 ♪ Can't find paradise on the ground ♪ 30 00:01:53,220 --> 00:01:55,340 I did always keep stuff. 31 00:01:55,420 --> 00:01:57,960 Silly bits of receipts and things. 32 00:01:59,060 --> 00:02:02,560 There'll be something that proves I was there, abroad. 33 00:02:03,420 --> 00:02:05,420 All right, well... 34 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,500 I'll start this side. 35 00:02:12,660 --> 00:02:15,370 - Bye, Daddy. I love you. - Bye, sweetheart, I love you. 36 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:18,360 - And remember, don't be late. - I won't. 37 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:33,410 - You didn't call me back. - Someone stole my phone. 38 00:02:33,460 --> 00:02:35,530 When's our money coming? 39 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:40,060 I can have it for you by Wednesday. 40 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:43,770 I just want to be sure you're making the right choices. 41 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:46,570 - I'm making the right choices? - Because like I said last week, 42 00:02:46,620 --> 00:02:50,100 I'm not the kind of man who forgets when someone screws him over. 43 00:02:50,180 --> 00:02:52,170 That's very Liam Neeson. 44 00:02:52,220 --> 00:02:54,960 3:00, Wednesday, in the cafe. Be there. 45 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:05,900 OK, thank you. 46 00:03:09,540 --> 00:03:12,620 She was in a B&B in Havering, 47 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:16,180 the landlady found her when she didn't come down for breakfast. 48 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:18,210 - Found her? - Unconscious. 49 00:03:18,260 --> 00:03:20,210 They're taking her in to St Agatha's now. 50 00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:23,060 - Is she gonna be OK? - I have no idea. 51 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:24,490 Love, I'm sorry. 52 00:03:24,540 --> 00:03:26,730 You see, you asked me to take the wall down, Tony, 53 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:28,130 but that's what's behind it -- 54 00:03:28,180 --> 00:03:31,660 what I did to her and what I do to every single relationship I've ever had -- 55 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:33,540 try to fuck it up. 56 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:38,730 You're over-reacting. 57 00:03:38,780 --> 00:03:41,820 Cos I'm pissed off you stayed married to a child-abuser? 58 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:43,410 Sorry, but I wanna go home now. 59 00:03:43,460 --> 00:03:46,660 Oh, what, to that depressing little flat and your pretend friends? 60 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:50,060 Oh, God, Jason, I'm sorry. 61 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:52,700 Come on. 62 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:56,260 What is this? We've always been there for each other. 63 00:03:56,340 --> 00:03:59,500 And I always thought that was cos I needed you. 64 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:01,570 Please, love, don't... 65 00:04:01,620 --> 00:04:04,300 Jason. Jason, please. 66 00:04:05,540 --> 00:04:07,420 Please, love. 67 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:09,330 Please, don't leave me on my own. 68 00:04:09,380 --> 00:04:11,650 I think being on your own is just what you need. 69 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:14,170 Time to think about who you are. 70 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:20,530 So, first we need to identify the house, 71 00:04:20,580 --> 00:04:22,690 and if we can do that, then we'll try and find 72 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:24,330 the owner at the relevant time. 73 00:04:24,380 --> 00:04:26,130 - Which was when? - Erm... 74 00:04:26,180 --> 00:04:30,140 Our witness says the gatherings took place between 1981 and 1983. 75 00:04:30,220 --> 00:04:33,290 - And this is... Ellen Price... - Hm. 76 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:35,890 .. who was at a reform school when she says this happened? 77 00:04:35,940 --> 00:04:40,260 And is a very successful marketing executive now. 78 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:44,250 And do we have any reason to believe any of your suspects 79 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:46,650 could have ever found themselves at this address? 80 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:49,980 Well, that's our primary focus now. 81 00:04:51,660 --> 00:04:54,650 Were they in London at that time? Were they... 82 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:58,340 - vulnerable, in care? All of that sort of stuff. - OK. 83 00:04:58,420 --> 00:05:01,420 With Marion Kelsey being our priority 84 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:03,810 after Sinead Quinn's statement yesterday. 85 00:05:03,860 --> 00:05:06,250 And clearly, if what Ms Price is saying is true, 86 00:05:06,300 --> 00:05:08,850 then we're looking at a whole separate investigation. 87 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:11,330 Possible multiple sexual assaults on children. 88 00:05:11,380 --> 00:05:13,980 - Multiple suspects. - Maybe, yes. 89 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:17,810 Well, I know you'll be aware 90 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:19,890 of how carefully we need to tread here, Cass. 91 00:05:19,940 --> 00:05:22,730 Notwithstanding the mistakes that we have made in the past, 92 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:25,980 there are also some very unreliable witnesses out there. 93 00:05:26,060 --> 00:05:27,850 Very aware of that, sir, 94 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,640 and we'll tread very carefully indeed. 95 00:05:32,020 --> 00:05:35,010 So, cos a few unfortunate people made some stuff up, 96 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:36,690 suddenly it's all made up, again, 97 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:38,530 like it has been for the last 50 years. 98 00:05:38,580 --> 00:05:41,250 Yeah, I know. It's rubbish, isn't it? 99 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:43,060 Listen... 100 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:46,970 .. I'm sorry if I got arsey the other day. 101 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:49,360 I'm sorry if I got arsey, too. 102 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:53,740 I think... with my girls, 103 00:05:53,820 --> 00:05:56,010 I just get very emotional about it all. 104 00:05:56,060 --> 00:05:58,500 No, yeah, I get it. 105 00:05:58,580 --> 00:05:59,720 Hm. 106 00:06:01,020 --> 00:06:03,170 So, where are we with Maudsley? 107 00:06:03,220 --> 00:06:06,300 We still need to know if Colin Osborne could have ever got out. 108 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:09,500 Yeah, yeah, no, I'll chase up, and the airline manifests. 109 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:14,260 Oh, OK. And then I want Marion, Sara and Colin in, 110 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:15,690 all three of 'em together. 111 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:18,250 - What are we saying, a voluntary interview? - Hm. 112 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:21,210 And we're gonna need photos of them when they were teenagers, 113 00:06:21,260 --> 00:06:22,890 I wanna show them to Ellen Price. 114 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:25,210 Oh, we can't use photo ID from Price. 115 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:28,300 I'm not worried about evidence, I wanna know I'm not going mad. 116 00:06:28,380 --> 00:06:31,130 You don't wanna concentrate on just Marion Kelsey for now? 117 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:32,250 No, I don't think so. 118 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:34,330 Maybe they were all at one of these parties. 119 00:06:34,380 --> 00:06:36,650 - They all knew each other, you mean? - Why not? 120 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:38,930 And maybe all three were involved in his murder, 121 00:06:38,980 --> 00:06:40,170 so I want it coordinated. 122 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:43,380 I want them all in the front office at the same time. 123 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:52,980 So, Maria Gonzalez. 124 00:06:53,060 --> 00:06:57,500 We placed her with Klein Egerton on 13th March, 1990. 125 00:06:57,580 --> 00:06:59,010 13th, that's interesting. 126 00:06:59,060 --> 00:07:02,220 - And she left on the 17th it says there. - Right. 127 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:05,460 And was this her home address at that time here? 128 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:07,130 - Yeah. - It's been really helpful. 129 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:09,010 Would you mind if I took a copy of this? 130 00:07:09,060 --> 00:07:11,610 You can have it, love. She hasn't been back in 26 years, 131 00:07:11,660 --> 00:07:15,160 so I don't think we'll be getting any return business. 132 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:17,050 Sorry, what's this here? 133 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:20,300 That's just her reference, her previous employer. 134 00:07:31,340 --> 00:07:33,170 - David Walker? - Yeah. 135 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:36,460 I went online at Companies House and looked at his accounts, 136 00:07:36,540 --> 00:07:39,210 Gonzalez worked for Walker for 18 months 137 00:07:39,260 --> 00:07:41,450 before she temped at Klein Egerton's. 138 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:43,780 - As what? - A dancer. 139 00:07:44,820 --> 00:07:46,650 And she'd only been at Klein's two days 140 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:49,300 before she made the rape allegation. 141 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:52,780 OK, so we have photos of Osbourne with Walker in February, 142 00:07:52,860 --> 00:07:54,130 and then a few weeks later, 143 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:57,940 a woman who clearly knows Walker very well gets a temp job at Klein's. 144 00:07:58,020 --> 00:08:02,010 And within two days, she accuses Colin Osbourne, a gay man, 145 00:08:02,060 --> 00:08:03,330 of raping her. 146 00:08:03,380 --> 00:08:06,700 So, even in 1990, a woman makes a very public accusation of rape, 147 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:09,210 you'd reasonably assume the police would be called. 148 00:08:09,260 --> 00:08:11,050 - Yeah. - The man would be interviewed, 149 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:13,690 at the very least, his reputation is seriously damaged, 150 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:15,410 at the very worst, he goes to trial. 151 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:19,420 - Except this is banking and they... - It's all handled internally. - Yeah. 152 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:22,980 But if you took that anomaly out of the equation, you'd have to assume 153 00:08:23,060 --> 00:08:26,180 that someone wanted Colin Osbourne out the picture, wouldn't you? 154 00:08:26,260 --> 00:08:28,800 And that someone was David Walker. 155 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:42,900 Hi. Mr Osbourne? 156 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:45,980 DC Fran Lingley. Can I have a quick word? 157 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:53,210 Hello, young man. DS Murray Boulting. 158 00:08:53,260 --> 00:08:55,600 Is your mum or dad in, please? 159 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:00,980 Hello, there. DC Jake Collier. 160 00:09:01,060 --> 00:09:04,060 Have you got five minutes please, Mrs Kelsey? 161 00:09:06,140 --> 00:09:07,980 This is it. 162 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:16,100 It's here. 163 00:09:18,220 --> 00:09:20,620 Yeah, it's that one over there. 164 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:23,720 - How sure? - 100%. 165 00:09:25,460 --> 00:09:27,200 It's the number. 166 00:09:28,060 --> 00:09:31,060 There was a joke going around around that time. 167 00:09:32,180 --> 00:09:36,380 99 is like a 69, except you shove a flake up your... 168 00:09:39,060 --> 00:09:42,260 He told me that gag the first time we were there. 169 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:46,460 Yeah. There. 170 00:09:46,540 --> 00:09:48,770 So, how many times did you come here? 171 00:09:48,820 --> 00:09:50,610 - Three. - Always with Walker? 172 00:09:50,660 --> 00:09:52,810 He was always the one that picked me up, yeah. 173 00:09:52,860 --> 00:09:55,130 - From your school. - Yeah. 174 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:00,010 So, what did your headmaster say about that? 175 00:10:00,060 --> 00:10:03,360 The gatherings were supposed to be prayer evenings. 176 00:10:04,140 --> 00:10:06,290 There was a bloke there that was something to do 177 00:10:06,340 --> 00:10:08,090 with the local church. 178 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:10,770 We were supposed to be reading the Bible, 179 00:10:10,820 --> 00:10:12,900 talking about God. 180 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:16,100 No... 181 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:19,840 .. it was never a problem, no. 182 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:24,700 And Walker would... would pick you up in his car? 183 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:27,520 In a taxi, he came straight from work. 184 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:31,050 And how would you get back from the party? 185 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:32,440 Sorry... 186 00:10:35,020 --> 00:10:37,360 .. this is weird, I've erm... 187 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,740 .. I've never talked about this in 35 years. 188 00:10:42,820 --> 00:10:45,620 Not to my husband, not to anyone. 189 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:48,100 - If you want to stop... - No. 190 00:10:48,780 --> 00:10:51,450 It's fine. It's all right, it's fine. 191 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:53,800 Twice... 192 00:10:55,420 --> 00:10:58,620 .. he put me in a taxi to take me back. 193 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:04,100 - Right. - And another time, there was a woman that... 194 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:05,940 drove us back. 195 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:09,700 - Was that a woman from the party? - No, she just turned up outside. 196 00:11:11,140 --> 00:11:13,410 She had a row with Walker on the pavement there, 197 00:11:13,460 --> 00:11:14,690 she was screaming at him, 198 00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:18,380 - I think she was his wife or girlfriend or something. - OK. 199 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:24,620 And how many other children were here? 200 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:28,820 There were never less than half a dozen. 201 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:32,060 - Age range? - The youngest was about 12. 202 00:11:33,140 --> 00:11:35,010 The oldest maybe... 203 00:11:35,940 --> 00:11:37,210 .. 16. 204 00:11:38,260 --> 00:11:40,260 And how many adults? 205 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:43,300 About the same. 206 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:48,770 There was something for everyone. 207 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:54,010 If I showed you some photographs of some other children 208 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:55,810 we think might have been here as well, 209 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:58,940 - do you think you might be able to recognise any of them? - Er... 210 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:02,780 I suppose it's worth a try, yeah. 211 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:06,000 Hm. 212 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:10,620 I'm so sorry. I'll just... I'll be two minutes. 213 00:12:12,260 --> 00:12:14,260 Are you OK? 214 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:17,700 Yeah, I'm fine. 215 00:12:28,460 --> 00:12:30,170 - Sunny. - So the Maudsley say 216 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:33,050 they had a soft locked-door policy in the 1990s, 217 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:35,130 meaning that it was hard but not impossible 218 00:12:35,180 --> 00:12:36,570 for a patient to walk out. 219 00:12:36,620 --> 00:12:38,610 But can they confirm Osborne was there? 220 00:12:38,660 --> 00:12:41,050 Yeah, yeah, for the exact dates he stipulated 221 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,570 and there's no record of him absconding at any time. 222 00:12:43,620 --> 00:12:44,850 But they can't rule it out? 223 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:48,420 - If he was in and out within a few hours, then, no. - OK. 224 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:49,770 And then Sara Alazi, 225 00:12:49,820 --> 00:12:52,980 we have found both her outbound flight in March 226 00:12:53,060 --> 00:12:54,770 and her inbound flight in December. 227 00:12:54,820 --> 00:12:57,810 But what we can't do is check every airline, 228 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:59,610 rail service, ferry service 229 00:12:59,660 --> 00:13:02,290 for every day between her departure and the 8th of May 230 00:13:02,340 --> 00:13:04,890 to see if she returned here at any point. 231 00:13:04,940 --> 00:13:07,820 No, OK, thanks. Listen, right now 232 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:10,530 I need you to pull Tessa Nixon in again. 233 00:13:10,580 --> 00:13:14,060 My witness here might be able to place her at this house in Brentford. 234 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:17,140 - Wow. - Yeah, I know. Thanks. 235 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:19,640 Hm. 236 00:13:30,060 --> 00:13:31,860 Hello. Can I help? 237 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:35,540 - Hi, there. DCI Cassie Stuart, Bishop Street Station. - OK. 238 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:37,850 You don't happen to know who lives here, do you? 239 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:41,820 - Oh, yeah, that's Pete and Katie. - Right, looks like they've got kids? 240 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:45,700 One, Rosie, she's three now, and then one on the way. 241 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:48,450 - Have they been here long? - Oh, about five or six years? 242 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:51,490 You don't happen to know who lived here before them, do you? 243 00:13:51,540 --> 00:13:54,330 Before them was Ken, he was here donkey's years. 244 00:13:54,380 --> 00:13:57,330 - Do you remember his surname? - Er... no. 245 00:13:57,380 --> 00:13:59,170 But he worked for the council, I think, 246 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:01,210 some sort of social service or something. 247 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:05,620 And when you say "donkey's years", roughly how long did he live here? 248 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:08,780 Well before me and I've been here since '79. 249 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:10,970 Right. 250 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,640 - Brilliant. - OK. - Thanks for your help. 251 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:17,900 Oh. Sorry, just one more thing. 252 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:20,370 You don't have any idea where he moved to, do you? 253 00:14:20,420 --> 00:14:23,660 Oh, yeah. About half a mile down that road... 254 00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:26,210 to the cemetery. He's dead, love. 255 00:14:29,300 --> 00:14:31,300 Thank you. 256 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:35,650 She is out of line doing this. 257 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:37,610 You could have rung me, I'd have come up. 258 00:14:37,660 --> 00:14:40,980 Come on, let's not make this any harder than it needs to be, Tess. 259 00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:43,260 Detective Inspector Nixon. 260 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:59,810 Sorry, Marion, can you bear with us for two minutes? 261 00:14:59,860 --> 00:15:02,130 - Bit short on interview rooms. - Yeah, sure. 262 00:15:02,180 --> 00:15:05,620 Do you wanna take a seat? Grab you a tea or a coffee? 263 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:09,500 - Yeah, I'll have a tea. Milk, no sugar, please. - No worries. 264 00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:20,250 As I said, Colin, you're obviously not being arrested, 265 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:22,290 but you will be questioned under caution, 266 00:15:22,340 --> 00:15:24,610 so would you like a solicitor present? 267 00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:26,410 No, I'll be fine, thank you. 268 00:15:26,460 --> 00:15:29,330 OK. Just grab a seat, I'll be right back. 269 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:45,580 Do you recognise this girl? 270 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:52,100 No, sorry. 271 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:58,500 No problem. 272 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:03,260 What about this one? 273 00:16:10,340 --> 00:16:12,340 Show me the next one. 274 00:16:24,020 --> 00:16:26,360 Show me the middle one again. 275 00:16:35,340 --> 00:16:38,700 It was 35 years ago and I was drunk... 276 00:16:42,140 --> 00:16:44,420 .. but this girl... 277 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:47,300 I'm pretty certain she was at the party. 278 00:16:48,060 --> 00:16:50,660 I'm pretty certain I recognise her. 279 00:16:59,940 --> 00:17:02,770 - Have any of them spoken to each other? - No. 280 00:17:02,820 --> 00:17:06,220 - Looked at each other? - Nothing. - Which is weird. 281 00:17:07,140 --> 00:17:09,090 Weird? 282 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:13,660 Well, you nod at people in a situation like this, don't you? 283 00:17:13,740 --> 00:17:16,220 You talk about the weather... 284 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:17,970 shit coffee... 285 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:21,180 Don't you? 286 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:24,200 I guess. 287 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:27,340 OK, you do Tessa. 288 00:17:28,620 --> 00:17:30,620 I'll do Marion. 289 00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:32,890 I gave evidence against her. 290 00:17:32,940 --> 00:17:35,250 - Why would she not try and drop me in it? - Hm. 291 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:39,060 So you think that's why Sinead Quinn said this stuff about you and Walker? 292 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:41,060 Absolutely. 293 00:17:41,140 --> 00:17:44,380 And so how do you think she knew who he was? 294 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:48,730 Well, maybe it was her who identified him as a possible target? 295 00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:51,650 - Her who wrote that address down? - Of your parents' house? 296 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:53,370 She was my girlfriend at the time, 297 00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:56,460 we stayed there on several occasions when my parents were away. 298 00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:59,450 But whichever of you it was gave him your parents' address 299 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,700 on the 7th of May, that's the day before he disappeared... 300 00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:06,180 it suggests you were staying there, in North London. 301 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:09,290 Yeah, I guess so. 302 00:18:09,340 --> 00:18:12,780 Just a few miles from where David Walker's body was eventually found. 303 00:18:14,220 --> 00:18:17,860 OK, I want, if I may, Marion... 304 00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:22,100 .. to ask you a couple of questions about your childhood? 305 00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:24,980 So, you were brought up by your parents? 306 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:27,700 - Yes. - Hm. 307 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:30,010 - And you lived with them till what age? - 16. 308 00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:32,010 Did you have any problems with the police? 309 00:18:32,060 --> 00:18:34,290 Other than the one you've asked me about, no. 310 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:37,580 - You never spent any time in any youth-detention facilities? - No. 311 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:42,370 - No periods in care. - No. 312 00:18:44,140 --> 00:18:46,810 - You ever run away from home? - No. 313 00:18:48,180 --> 00:18:51,970 - And your mother would corroborate this, would she? - Yes. 314 00:18:52,020 --> 00:18:55,540 Does the address 99 Shanklin Avenue 315 00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:58,560 - in Brentford mean anything to you? - No. 316 00:19:01,900 --> 00:19:03,900 This is it. 317 00:19:05,020 --> 00:19:06,690 I've never seen it before. 318 00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:08,770 You've never been to any parties there? 319 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:11,580 A party? Jesus. I don't know, when? 320 00:19:11,660 --> 00:19:15,500 At some point between 1981 and 1983. 321 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,650 - OK, well I think that's fairly unlikely. - And why's that? 322 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:20,610 Well, firstly I was only 14 in 1983 323 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:23,610 and my parents were not that relaxed about that sort of thing. 324 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:25,770 But more to the point, I don't think 325 00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:28,860 they would have been that happy about driving me to Brentford, 326 00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:32,380 given that between 1980 and 1985, we lived in Ireland. 327 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,210 If he was doing this sort of stuff, 328 00:19:36,260 --> 00:19:39,050 how on Earth would I have known about it? Hm? 329 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:41,130 He would have done everything he could have 330 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:43,520 to keep it from me, obviously. 331 00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:46,730 Except wives often do suspect, Tessa, you know that, 332 00:19:46,780 --> 00:19:48,170 you're a copper. 333 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:49,820 Little girls! 334 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:52,420 They have an instinct... 335 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:55,900 which they can ignore sometimes for years because... 336 00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:59,520 .. who would want to ever dig that up. 337 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:03,300 But then one day, I guess it just gets too much. 338 00:20:04,580 --> 00:20:09,620 And maybe you follow him... from work... 339 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:12,010 .. on one of those nights 340 00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:14,730 when he always said that he had late meetings. 341 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:17,450 One of those nights when he came home smelling of booze 342 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,700 and something else, something that scared you. 343 00:20:22,620 --> 00:20:24,890 And you saw where he went... 344 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:27,400 .. and then later... 345 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:30,780 .. a child coming out with him. 346 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:37,260 No. 347 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:39,880 And you were disgusted, of course. 348 00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:42,180 And you fought with him, 349 00:20:42,260 --> 00:20:45,760 and you took that child back to her residential home. 350 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,660 It's a nice theory... 351 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,690 .. but that is all it is, DS Khan. 352 00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:55,940 You know that, I know that. 353 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:02,900 Except we have a witness... 354 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:08,820 .. who says she remembers being driven home by a woman 355 00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:12,260 in a blue convertible Golf with red trim. 356 00:21:16,020 --> 00:21:18,090 What car did you drive? 357 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,360 Hello. 358 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,520 - I'm looking for Maria Gonzalez. - Mum. 359 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,680 I'd imagine that was a very traumatic event for you. 360 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,510 Yes. 361 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,920 Doubly so in that Mr Osbourne was never charged with anything. 362 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,560 No. 363 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,000 If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you call the police? 364 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,000 I didn't want to go through the trauma of a rape trial. 365 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,990 Absolutely. 366 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,720 They are a very difficult thing to go through. 367 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,920 Mrs Gonzalez, there's a couple of things I'm still confused about. 368 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,940 Firstly, did you know Mr Osbourne was gay? 369 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,620 OK. 370 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,700 Secondly, what can you tell me about David Walker? 371 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,910 Basically, she's now admitting 372 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,790 that Walker paid her five grand to make it all up. 373 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,880 - Bloody hell. - Apparently, Osbourne was a very heavy drinker, 374 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,040 which Walker knew. 375 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,670 So, Gonzalez plied him with booze at this party, 376 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,990 and took him to the toilets where he passed out. 377 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,830 20 minutes later, she was found down a stairwell, 378 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,070 "distressed and partially undressed". 379 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:25,030 - Was she meant to go to the police? - Absolutely. 380 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,080 Her conscience wouldn't let her go through with it. 381 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Yeah, that and the ten grand Klein Egerton offered her to keep shtoom. 382 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,400 And did she know why Walker asked her to do this? 383 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,120 She said all she knew was that Walker had said, 384 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,470 "Osbourne was a nosey little fucker 385 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,260 who'd asked him one question too many". 386 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,520 - Hi, there. - Jesus, Grandad. 387 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,070 Sorry, mate. 388 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:04,710 He's lost his wallet, I'm afraid, 389 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,390 and he wanted to walk home but Egham's a bit of schlep, 390 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,430 - so we gave him a lift into town. - Right. 391 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,790 He just needs a bit of a kip. 392 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,510 Is he OK? He's not in any trouble... 393 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,920 No, no, he's fine, but he did seem a bit tearful on the way in but... 394 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,960 Right, yeah. 395 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,630 He lost his wife a couple of years ago... 396 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,430 and he's been finding it hard. 397 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,760 Sorry to hear that. I'll leave you to it then. 398 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,920 Yes, thanks again. 399 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,790 OK, I'm gonna start, if I may, Colin, 400 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,920 - by going back to your departure from Klein's? - Yes. 401 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Can you tell me why you didn't mention the rape allegation 402 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,280 that was made against you the last time we spoke? 403 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,120 Well, for obvious reasons. 404 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,460 It's something that you're ashamed of? 405 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,240 It's the worst thing I've ever done. 406 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,080 It's sat with me every day for... 407 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,950 .. almost 30 years. 408 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,080 Er..... even talking about it now... 409 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,960 .. it disgusts me. 410 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,080 And what is your recollection of the event? 411 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,480 I had... I have no recollection of the event, 412 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,060 - of any of the evening. - Because you were too drunk? 413 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:33,040 I was going through a period of having blackouts, losing whole days. 414 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,590 - You were drinking that heavily? - Sadly, yes. 415 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,040 - Did you know you were gay at the time of the allegation? - No. 416 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,070 Well, maybe instinctively, but I certainly hadn't 417 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,720 admitted it to myself. 418 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:52,080 I'm guessing that it's going to... er... shock you... 419 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,240 to learn that we have evidence to suggest 420 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,040 that Maria Gonzalez made up the allegation. 421 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,550 That she was paid to make it up. 422 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Paid by who? 423 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,840 - By David Walker. - Oh, but why? Why? 424 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,740 Well, that's what we were hoping you could tell us. 425 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,160 - I have no idea. - Really? 426 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,680 Well... well, erm... 427 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,600 .. like I said, I... I... 428 00:26:54,440 --> 00:27:00,080 I... don't even remember meeting him. 429 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,500 Colin... 430 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,150 .. we find that hard to believe. 431 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,160 We've got photos of you with him, your number's in his diary. 432 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,600 According to Maria Gonzalez, you were asking him lots of questions 433 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,550 in the weeks before she did what she did. 434 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,990 So, what were you asking him? 435 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,070 I have no idea what you're talking about. 436 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,910 - Were you asking him questions about his past? - No. 437 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,790 Were you trying to discover if this was the same David Walker 438 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,160 that attended parties in the early 1980s at a house in Brentford. 439 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,430 Parties? What parties? 440 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,380 Parties that we think that you also attended as a teenager. 441 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,720 - No. - Where we think Walker might have sexually assaulted you. 442 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,030 I was born and raised in Scotland. 443 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,710 The first time I came to London was when I went to university in 1985. 444 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760 I... 445 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,920 I was 19. 446 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,110 - Are your parents still alive, Colin? - Yeah. Well, my dad, yeah. 447 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,760 And he would corroborate that, would he? 448 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,510 Of course he would corroborate it. 449 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,640 Did you know a Marion Kelsey? Maiden name -- Marion Dunphy. 450 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,430 - No. - Or Sara Alazi. 451 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,840 Again, that would have been her maiden name, she's now... Mahmoud. 452 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,350 No. I want to leave now. 453 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,630 Where have you been? 454 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,710 I've been interviewed by the police again. 455 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,150 Is everything OK? 456 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,470 Yeah, fine. Did you need me? 457 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Flo had ballet, you were meant to pick her up. 458 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,790 God, I'm sorry. 459 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,990 No, it's fine, Freya's mum brought her home, 460 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,980 but listen, I think we need to talk, love. 461 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,390 - Mr Mahmoud? - Yes. 462 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,880 I'm so sorry to disturb you, I got your address from the mosque. 463 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,480 I was wondering if I could talk to you for a few moments about Sara? 464 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,360 - I'm sorry, I don't wanna talk about... - Please, please. 465 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,390 I found these images on my grandson's phone 466 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,840 with jokes about Mrs Mahmoud, 467 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720 and I believe that woman is my daughter. 468 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,880 - So where were you brought up, Sara? - Hayes. 469 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,160 - With Mum and Dad? - Yes. 470 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360 And are your parents alive now? 471 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,030 No, they both died in a car crash when I was 20. 472 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,240 Sara's mother died in a car accident on Christmas Eve 1980 473 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,030 when Sara was just 12. 474 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,200 I'm very sorry to hear that. But you had a happy childhood? 475 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,430 Yes, it was very happy. 476 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Sara was completely devastated by the loss of her mother, 477 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,740 they were very close. 478 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520 Perfectly understandably... 479 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,110 .. her death made her very angry. 480 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360 With the world, I guess... 481 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,430 .. and me, particularly. 482 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,710 - You enjoyed school? - Yes. 483 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,270 She started to play truant at school, 484 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,520 to fight with her friends. 485 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,280 And was incredibly challenging at home, 486 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,430 refusing to abide by any rules. 487 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,520 - You never got in to any kind of trouble? - No. 488 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,200 She started to drink and smoke, and I think even to take drugs. 489 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,680 - No trouble outside of school? - No. 490 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360 I lost count of the number of times the police brought her home 491 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,780 to me... 492 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,870 .. in the middle of the night. 493 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,240 - And when did you leave school? - When I was 16. 494 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,080 By 13, she pretty much stopped going to school altogether... 495 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,430 .. and very often she'd stay out all night. 496 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,720 I tried to be tough, I tried to be gentle. 497 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520 I tried everything... 498 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,750 .. until I had no idea what to do. 499 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,880 - Why so young? Why didn't you do A levels? - Just didn't. 500 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,720 And then, I... 501 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,110 .. I did something I'll regret till the day I die. 502 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,230 You were clearly smart. 503 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,600 You should have done sixth form, gone on to university. 504 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400 - What happened? - Nothing. 505 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,720 And so I told her, if she couldn't live in my house by my rules... 506 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,080 .. she had to leave. 507 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,920 When she was 13? 508 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,600 Of course, I never expected her 509 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,080 to actually do it, to leave, but she did. 510 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,470 I don't believe you, Sara. 511 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,720 I think something... 512 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,160 very bad happened to you around this time. 513 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,640 - No. - And I think it had something... 514 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,720 to do with this house. 515 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160 Do you recognise it? 516 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,440 No. 517 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,390 This is 99 Shanklin Avenue. 518 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,910 Of course, I reported it to the police, 519 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,230 who were completely uninterested 520 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,780 and who kept saying she'd come back when she's ready. 521 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760 So, we looked for her. 522 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,600 Her brother had heard she had a... 523 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,000 room in a squat. 524 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600 Did David Walker do something to you here, Sara? 525 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,830 So, we looked there and then in hostels, 526 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880 and houses with men... 527 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,480 .. who we heard... took her places and used her. 528 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,470 At a gathering? 529 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,510 No. 530 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,320 For months, for years, we looked for her... 531 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,470 but never found her. 532 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,310 We want to help you, Sara. 533 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,300 And then we just stopped hearing anything. 534 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,800 You don't wanna help me, you just wanna solve your case. 535 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,280 I want a solicitor. 536 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,200 Please... 537 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,640 just tell her I love her. 538 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,790 I've always loved her... 539 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,200 .. and I'm so, so sorry for what I did. 540 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,000 Zoe. 541 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,510 Zoe. No, I just want to speak to Zoe. 542 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,020 I didn't kill that man... 543 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,640 .. and you must know I would never hurt a hair on her head. 544 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,640 I do, 100%, but... 545 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160 .. there's still stuff that you're not telling me, 546 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,710 stuff you've never told me. 547 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,750 And I used to be OK with that, 548 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,040 but when it starts impacting on her, 549 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,680 when... when we start bringing more chaos into her life, 550 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,240 I can't do that to her, not after everything that she's been through. 551 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,280 And so... as deeply painful as it would be... 552 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,360 I would give her up, I would give her back... 553 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,670 .. if I thought for a second that keeping her 554 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,190 would jeopardise her well-being. 555 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,070 If I could tell you the truth... 556 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,800 .. Simon... I would, but I can't. 557 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,540 So I'm gonna call Janet now... 558 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,160 .. and tell her what's been happening... 559 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,820 .. and ask for her help in deciding what's best for Flo. 560 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:24,460 - Erm... duty solicitor's on his way for Sara. - OK. 561 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:30,580 You definitely think she was there, at one of these gatherings? 562 00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:32,570 Ellen Price thinks she recognised her. 563 00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:35,860 If you'd seen her face when I showed her the photo of Shanklin Avenue... 564 00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:41,810 Cassie Stuart. 565 00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:54,220 Sara's husband's downstairs, he says he has something I need to see. 566 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:01,500 Mr Mahmoud? 567 00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:05,700 She told me that your victim died on 8th May, 1990. 568 00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:08,540 Yes. 569 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:12,100 A ticket stub to see Roma play Lazio 570 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:16,300 and a photo of her in a cafe in Rome... 571 00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:20,420 .. date stamped on the 8th. 572 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:24,900 On the 9th, a train ticket to Naples and a photo of her... 573 00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:30,900 inside a bar in Naples, date stamped on the 9th. 574 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:34,620 On the 10th, restaurant receipts in Naples, and on the 11th, 575 00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:38,460 a new inter-railing card, stamped and dated with her photo in Naples. 576 00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:45,770 I'm taking my wife home now. 577 00:38:07,220 --> 00:38:09,160 I love you very much. 578 00:38:10,060 --> 00:38:12,000 .. and I always will. 579 00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:15,410 I've sent the boys to my brother's, 580 00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:18,060 there's some stuff you need to know. 581 00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:20,410 We had a visitor today. 582 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:35,340 OK, I now officially give up. 583 00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:42,610 And a glass of Malbec. 584 00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:44,170 No, no, no, I'm here, I'm here. 585 00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:46,890 - Has he come out of his room? - No. 586 00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:50,090 The bloke didn't clobber him or anything, did he? 587 00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:52,370 No, but I can't imagine it went well. 588 00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:54,210 Unless he got pissed before the event, 589 00:38:54,260 --> 00:38:55,730 which is always a possibility. 590 00:38:55,780 --> 00:38:59,500 Yeah, OK. Erm... look, I'm gonna be a while. 591 00:38:59,580 --> 00:39:01,970 I'll be back about 10:30, 11:00. 592 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:04,490 Cool, I'll take him up some grub in a bit. 593 00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:06,380 OK. Love you. 594 00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:11,570 Erm... can I get a large vodka with that? 595 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:32,900 I said I needed to be on my own, pulled my cancer-kid face. 596 00:39:34,780 --> 00:39:36,050 Erm... 597 00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:39,060 It's er... It seems... 598 00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:42,940 .. unbelievably selfish erm... 599 00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:46,180 that I'm saying this to you of all people, but erm... 600 00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,010 I just really want you to understand two things. 601 00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:53,900 Firstly, erm... I have some serious crap in my life 602 00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:56,530 which makes me... has always made me 603 00:39:56,580 --> 00:39:58,290 hurt the people I'm closest to. 604 00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:00,690 It makes me push them away whenever I get scared 605 00:40:00,740 --> 00:40:03,820 that they might see something that, yeah, I didn't want them to. 606 00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:05,660 And I'm... 607 00:40:06,980 --> 00:40:11,210 .. I'm so sorry that I did that to you cos you didn't deserve it. 608 00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:14,660 And the second thing I wanted to say was that erm... 609 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:18,330 .. if I'd ever had a daughter, 610 00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:20,570 I would have wanted her to be just like you 611 00:40:20,620 --> 00:40:23,220 because... I think you're smashing. 612 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:51,810 It's like all the key pieces of an investigation are there 613 00:40:51,860 --> 00:40:54,380 but nothing, nothing... 614 00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:55,650 quite fits. 615 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:57,090 Sara... 616 00:40:57,140 --> 00:40:59,490 - had the motive but not the opportunity. - Yeah. 617 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:03,660 - Marion had the opportunity but no obvious motive. - Hm. 618 00:41:03,740 --> 00:41:09,060 Colin is clearly somehow connected to him, but just... 619 00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:13,010 .. join the suspects up, I'm sure that... 620 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:16,760 Do you know what, can we just talk about something else? 621 00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,500 Yeah. What do you wanna talk about? 622 00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,100 How was your date? 623 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,000 - Tell me, how was it? - No... 624 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,420 Hi. 625 00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:41,820 I know what you did, Tony. 626 00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:46,460 - What did I do? - They're yours, I know, I've always known. 627 00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:49,480 - What are mine? - Ned and Jack. Come on. 628 00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:52,930 I'm the father of your sister's children? 629 00:41:52,980 --> 00:41:54,530 And a part of me doesn't blame you 630 00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:56,570 because I know you've always wanted kids 631 00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:59,090 and you've always resented the fact that I didn't... 632 00:41:59,140 --> 00:42:01,810 - Marion. - .. but I really think you need to leave now. 633 00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:05,700 Yeah, I really think it's time. We're done now. We're done now. 634 00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:15,140 I'm gonna call your mum and Elise 635 00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:17,250 and ask them to come and look after you. 636 00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:19,970 Get you the right help, get you back on some meds maybe. 637 00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:23,100 And you know, I actually think you're right asking me to leave. 638 00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:30,660 I don't think I'm good for you any more, Maz. 639 00:42:30,940 --> 00:42:33,080 I want too much from you. 640 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:35,800 Things you can't give me. 641 00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:42,730 You know... 642 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:47,300 .. not having children... 643 00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:50,940 was the hardest thing for me, it still is some days. 644 00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:54,320 But I was always completely prepared to do that... 645 00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,160 .. because I loved you... 646 00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:01,360 .. love you. 647 00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:15,720 I dunno. 648 00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:19,700 Oh, it's been a few years now. 649 00:43:19,780 --> 00:43:22,880 Do you know what? I just... I just think you... 650 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:28,020 .. you sort of forget why you might be attractive to anyone. 651 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:32,500 You... I... 652 00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,520 - Seriously? - Yeah. 653 00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:37,620 I mean... 654 00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:39,290 you know, if no-one is telling you, 655 00:43:39,340 --> 00:43:42,860 you don't go around telling yourself, do you? 656 00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:47,540 Right, right, cos... that would be a bad thing, wouldn't it? 657 00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:50,940 Oh... 658 00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:54,730 For what it's worth, I think you're attractive. 659 00:43:54,780 --> 00:43:56,730 - Oh, gosh, shut up now. - No, I do. 660 00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:59,130 Yes, well, that would be because you're drunk. 661 00:43:59,180 --> 00:44:01,450 No, it's because you, you... 662 00:44:02,660 --> 00:44:05,330 .. because you're funny and clever... 663 00:44:07,780 --> 00:44:09,450 .. and kind... 664 00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:12,610 .. and pretty. 665 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,060 Am I? Fuck, I sound fantastic. 666 00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:20,300 Well, yeah. Yeah, you are. 667 00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:32,980 Oh, no. No... 668 00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:35,530 Shit, sorry. No, no, I wasn't, I wasn't... 669 00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:38,700 - No, absolutely. Nor was I. - Sure. 670 00:44:38,780 --> 00:44:41,140 Erm... but, Cassie, sit down. 671 00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:43,410 No, I've... I've got to shoot cos erm... 672 00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:46,400 - Please, sit. - No, look, it's all good. 673 00:44:46,460 --> 00:44:48,800 I'll see you tomorrow, Sunny. 674 00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:27,540 Sunny! I need to talk you. 675 00:45:27,620 --> 00:45:28,890 Boss, I'm sorry about that. 676 00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:31,810 No, not about that, that was just cripplingly embarrassing. 677 00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:34,610 No, there's no reason why you should feel in any way... 678 00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:36,690 - No, not for me, for you. - Oh, right, yeah. 679 00:45:36,740 --> 00:45:38,890 - It's about the case. - What about the case? 680 00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:42,340 What you said earlier about nothing quite fitting... 681 00:45:42,420 --> 00:45:45,420 - I think I can see a way that it does. - OK. 682 00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:48,220 And if I'm right... 683 00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:50,300 there are gonna be more bodies. 53492

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