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So we are here at the historic flight
foundation, and we are about to start
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setting up to shoot.
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But before we do that, I want to take
you through a little bit of the process
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that happened when we first arrived.
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So the first thing that we saw when we
came in was we had to position the
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planes.
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And we have two different setups that
we're doing today.
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We are doing a setup that involves one
plane, which we are doing first, and we
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have a setup that involves two planes
that we are doing second.
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But in order to kind of get ourselves
ahead of the game, we actually set up
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the two plane shot with the orientation
of the planes to begin with, because
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they had to be brought out, kind of
taxied along and positioned in place.
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And what we had to do while that was
happening was I had to help direct,
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because I was looking through my camera
with the lens that I was planning to
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use.
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Because the choice of your lens in a
shot like this does actually make a
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difference on the composition.
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How far things are away from the camera
changes based on the focal length.
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So a more wide, wide angle lens is
going to make something in the
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background seem further away, and a
longer lens is going to make something
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seem closer, again, like the theater
chute.
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I'm using a relatively
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medium length, focal length lens.
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I'm using a ninety, which is a little
bit closer to a seventy mill lens.
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Or if you're on a full frame, something
like an 85 is probably going to be a
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very similar look and feel.
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And the reason I did that for this
first shot is because it gives me a
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better sense of compression to the
background.
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And I didn't necessarily like the
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smaller plane that I got from the 55
mill lens.
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So what I ended up doing was using a 90
and making the background seem a little
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bit larger.
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The plane seemed a little bit larger.
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And another great benefit of it is it's
going to make the background a little
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bit more out of focus.
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And it allows me to go down to a 28.
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In this particular instance, again,
helping with that depth of field.
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The weather today is a little bit hazy.
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We were anticipating a very sunny day.
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We kind of have something that's
relatively close to sunny.
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And we came out, and I wanted to check
with the direction of the light.
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Again, this helps with how we position
the planes.
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And so what I use for that is an app
called sun seeker.
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And it allows me to do like an
augmented view of the scene.
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And so I can hold it up, and I can
actually plan to see where the light is
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going to be throughout the day.
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And for us, it's going to be arcing in
the sky, over on this side.
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So it's kind of like our right side,
and a little bit behind version of this
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shot, which is what we're doing first.
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And then by the time we get to the
secondary shot, it'll almost be frontal.
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And that was just kind of,
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we needed to plan where things were
going to go.
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We're also working in a relatively
confined space.
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We are shooting at the end of an active
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runway, and so we have to be kind of
careful, since we are, we are in that
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space, that we are very safe and
precautious, and we are
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taking all the necessary
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precautions to make sure that
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everything is good.
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So for this,
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with that weather I knew, coming into
it, we're going to have a little bit of
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a sunny day.
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So with the inspiration image, it's a
very
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cloudy day.
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So even though here in Seattle we also
are likely to have that kind of
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weather, today is not one of those
days.
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Today we have a sunny day.
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But what we're going to do is turn it
into something like a cloudy day by
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using some scrims and overpowering
daylight.
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So we are still going to try to create
that effect
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based on
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the tools that we have.
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And I think this is an important thing
to remember, we are on a sunny day, but
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it doesn't necessarily have to look
that day
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if you can modify it.
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And so my approach
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for a daylight today is to kind of work
around the sun.
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And how do I manipulate the thing I
cannot control, and that is the sun.
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And so that's kind of my approach to
motivating the light of the scene.
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The sun is
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coming from here.
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How do we diffuse it on the subjects?
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How do we soften it up?
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How do we make it look like a cloudy
day?
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And for that, we're going to be using
the scrims and some lights to overpower
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daylight.
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We're going to be keeping the direction
relatively similar to that light.
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Overall, I don't want to compete with
the daylight.
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I want to create a slightly more
modified version of an augmented
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version of reality.
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This is because if I let's, say, put a
light way over on the left hand side.
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When the sun is to the right.
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It looks artificial,
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and that's not necessarily a bad thing
every time.
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But in this particular case, we're
trying to make something that looks
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natural, and so we don't want to fight
with the light.
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That's already there,
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So
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what we're going to do is just revisit
this list that you saw me talk about
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last time, which is what I do when I
approach the scene.
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And so obviously
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I come in, I check the practicals, I
check the environmentals,
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what does the
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space look like?
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What can I do?
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What is it going to look like over the
course of the day?
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How can I modify what's there?
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What can be changed, what can't be?
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And so that's usually the first thing.
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Then I get out a camera and I start
looking at the frame.
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In this particular case,
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I was using a ninety millimeter lens,
and f 2.8
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that's a medium format.
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So on a full frame it's about a 7072
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millimeter.
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I would probably say, if I were
shooting this on a full frame, I'd go, 8585,
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would give me almost the same kind of
look and feel to the image, but
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actually also give me an extra
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extra bit of fstop underneath that.
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So I could open it up to as much of,
maybe like a 1.2,
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if I were using an f 12.
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So
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that's probably what I would use to
translate that shot.
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On a full frame.
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I'm going to adjust color temperature,
figure out what I want this data look
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like on a regular cloudy day, it's kind
of a bluish gray.
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So I was probably looking to use a
slightly cooler color temperature.
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And then I start looking at contrast,
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color and tonal contrast.
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How was my subject framed in the shot?
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How is the
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shadows on the face looking?
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Is it too bright, too dark?
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What does the scene look like?
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Are there any colors that are jumping
out,
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should there be so forth and so on.
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So
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before we actually start talking about
setting
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anything up in terms of gear, maybe
we'll see if anyone has some questions
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about this particular step.
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We did have a question about, in case
it's windy or rainy, when shooting on
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locations, do you have any kind of
protection to protect this subject?
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Like, how do you
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certainly in Seattle
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summer now?
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But so
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when it's windy,
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there's not really a whole lot you can
do.
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It depends how windy does I wouldn't
really use huge scrims on a really
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windy day, they are.
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It's bad advice.
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It was, as there was a slight breeze
with a few little, like,
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slightly more than soft
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gusts through the day.
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And it makes me real nervous when I'm
outside, when I'm shooting with this
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stuff, and it's heavily anchored down
with sandbags.
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But even still,
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it becomes a sale with long enough,
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strong enough wind.
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I've worked with ones that were doubled
the size, that we're 1212 by 12 and
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stuff like that.
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And I've been with them as they catch
wind.
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And you can't do anything, you can't
catch it.
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You just have to get out of the way.
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And you hope that,
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fortunately, no one was around, because
we don't set it up with talent near it,
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but it was in the middle of a big open
field.
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But, I mean, it just catches wind and
it goes.
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So one of the things that's especially
helpful is to
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use it at much more of a flat angle, if
you can, that's going to be less
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susceptible to catching wind
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when you start getting it like this, or
this is when it catches,
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otherwise, it just kind of flows past
it.
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And so that's really helpful when
you're using scrims
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as far as rain.
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I mean, I wouldn't be outside with all
the gear in the rain.
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So
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you,
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I would be inside, hopefully before
that happens.
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We've been on sets
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recently where there was a rain issue,
and you're waiting until the last
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minute.
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And then everyone grabs stuff and runs
in when you can.
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So you can obviously protect people
with an umbrella, but you can't really
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protect the gear.
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So you can sometimes search tarps and
stuff over it.
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But generally, man, you just want to,
you want to get that stuff
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out of the weather conditions before
you can.
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So with call sheets and everything
else, if I'm shooting outside, I am
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constantly constantly, constantly
checking weather
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it's always a huge consideration for
me.
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You always want to be safe with that if
you can, and avoid problems for
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yourself.
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I've seen producers on call sheets,
they put the weather, the weather for
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tomorrow is going to look like this.
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Know that if you are expecting whether
at seven pm, you should probably try to
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be wrapped by six, or whatever the case
may be,
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or,
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hey, it's going to rain in the
afternoon.
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Great for the afternoon shots.
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We're going to make sure we're inside,
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we're doing the inside stuff so you can
plan your day around what the weather
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is supposed to be like, and it'll make
your life a lot easier.
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Versus being like, oh man, I needed to
get this shot at this particular time,
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and I don't have a backup.
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And then what?
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So you always got to prepare for these
different things?
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Good,
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yeah, it's too.
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Well more, could you talk about them?
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Could you talk about the model release,
and also how you bring your team
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together, makeup, artists,
hairdressers, especially if they
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haven't worked together before.
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And then what social media or
classifies to you?
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Like, how do you find those people?
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I guess, the model release.
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So
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that will depend upon
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the usage of the images, if it is just
for my personal use,
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and I'm not ever going to be using it
in any commercial capacity.
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You can sometimes get away with
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kind of
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good faith model release, but when you
start using it for commercial purposes,
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you can run to some issues.
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So in the instance of stuff like this,
because it's going out to
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everyone, I mean, you have to
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do your eyes and cross your teeth to
make sure your releases are covered.
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It's always helpful if you can get it.
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The downside,
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especially in a place like New York, is
you're really not going to get people
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to work for free.
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Usually to sign a release,
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where I am, at least.
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And so
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we have to either pay people, or
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that's usually the solution.
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This is, you pay someone to use it for
full release stuff.
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So
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that's definitely a consideration.
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It depends upon where the images are
going and what they're being used for,
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as far as getting everyone on the same
page.
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Mood boards, or how I do, it's
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a makeup art, as I worked with a while
ago, was one of my favorite things that
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any crew member has ever done, but in
terms of preparation.
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But she actually printed out pages and
pages of mood images, things that she
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had done,
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directions that she wanted to go, even
just pieces of little
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attachments and stuff that she had, and
it was all just categorized
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on these pieces of paper that was kept
in a plastic sleeve, on a binder and
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brings it in for the whole crew and
sets it down, and so that everyone can
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get on the same page visually.
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So I also liked that, like you could do
that with mood images, print out your
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Pinterest board, put it in some
sleeves, leave it on the table.
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Everyone can look through it, get
constant reminders and refreshers about
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what's happening
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for this particular shoot.
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We had drawings of
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the sketch.
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We had the sketches printed out that we
could show people, this is what we're
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going for.
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This is what this needs to look like.
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That was very helpful.
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It's all about communication.
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People
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can't come into this kind of stuff
blind.
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They have to have a really good idea
about what they're doing.
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So you see the mood images beforehand,
you talk them through it, you explain
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to them what the image needs to look
like.
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It's just really about having that
conversation
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way ahead of time and making the
subjects aware of what this all needs
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to look like.
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And then with social media,
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sort of like, how do you
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do work regularly with the same makeup
artists and stylists?
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And
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how do you get people when everybody
just walks and nobody knows each other?
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How do you get, because you're going to
be working and show you need it to work
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smooth?
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How do you get them?
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I do like to try to reuse the same team
members.
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If I find people that I like and stick
with them, hey, they know how I work.
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I know that they're dependable.
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I know they can execute whatever the
goal is pretty well.
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Sometimes they're not available.
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So it's helpful to have a couple of
backups.
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But yeah, no, I regularly keep the same
people for that reason.
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Once I test someone out, find them,
i'll find someone I like.
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I just use them over and over again.
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Same with assistants.
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I like to use the same assistance over
and over again, because the more you
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use them, the quicker they are going to
be for you, because they know how you
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work and where things aren't, stuff
like that.
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And yeah,
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you regularly test new people, but,
yeah,
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same people.
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If you can
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