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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,35 --> 00:00:03,870 So let's take a look at the mood board. 2 00:00:04,270 --> 00:00:07,941 So once I've got my concepts in place, once I've got my drawings, drawings 3 00:00:08,174 --> 00:00:11,378 sticking around, I go to Pinterest, and I start pulling images together. 4 00:00:11,544 --> 00:00:12,12 This is the same 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,882 idea you saw me address yesterday. 6 00:00:16,516 --> 00:00:18,118 This is just a very different set of images. 7 00:00:18,351 --> 00:00:21,955 And so the idea of showing you this is to show you what my headspace was like, 8 00:00:22,422 --> 00:00:26,526 what kind of colors I was looking for, what kind of framing I was looking for, 9 00:00:27,293 --> 00:00:29,396 general look and feel to the images. 10 00:00:30,497 --> 00:00:32,499 And so this is what I was pulling from. 11 00:00:32,499 --> 00:00:33,800 It was a combination of historical photographs, 12 00:00:35,68 --> 00:00:38,838 a few things that are modern, that were people doing recreations and photographing, 13 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:41,875 which helped me source costumes. 14 00:00:42,909 --> 00:00:45,545 And then also, like those illustrations and stuff. 15 00:00:45,779 --> 00:00:48,481 There's also a still down there from, I think it was 16 00:00:49,549 --> 00:00:50,16 an old Spielberg. 17 00:00:50,417 --> 00:00:52,686 It's, like, amazing stories, or something like that. 18 00:00:52,919 --> 00:00:54,187 Remember them with the cartoon wheels? 19 00:00:54,521 --> 00:00:57,290 I don't know, these amazing stories, but that one, that was the one that was 20 00:00:57,290 --> 00:00:59,325 going through my head when I was making it. 21 00:00:59,559 --> 00:01:02,228 So that was definitely kind of in the back of my mind. 22 00:01:03,63 --> 00:01:07,634 So this was generally the look and feel that I was going for, and where I would pull 23 00:01:08,668 --> 00:01:09,269 source, 24 00:01:09,536 --> 00:01:11,504 source material and inspiration from. 25 00:01:12,172 --> 00:01:14,341 So then, because of the location, we send someone out. 26 00:01:14,507 --> 00:01:17,777 We sent a couple of people out to do to do some location scouting. 27 00:01:18,345 --> 00:01:21,214 And they get out there and take a lot of pictures of planes. 28 00:01:22,982 --> 00:01:26,753 The collection is available online, but don't necessarily always get a really 29 00:01:26,820 --> 00:01:27,320 thorough understanding 30 00:01:28,355 --> 00:01:32,492 of what they have available and what can be done, how things work in the 31 00:01:32,492 --> 00:01:34,561 space, what the outside space looks like, 32 00:01:35,528 --> 00:01:39,699 the places in which you are going to shoot, because I wasn't planning to 33 00:01:39,699 --> 00:01:41,601 shoot inside, and you need to see what the outside looked like. 34 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:45,105 All of these things also allowed us to pick the planes. 35 00:01:45,638 --> 00:01:47,640 And so we went with both of these. 36 00:01:47,707 --> 00:01:48,575 On a left, they call grumpy. 37 00:01:48,908 --> 00:01:49,442 It has a 38 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:50,410 seven door 39 00:01:51,778 --> 00:01:52,912 character on the side of it. 40 00:01:53,213 --> 00:01:55,482 And this is an old classic spitfire. 41 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:59,319 The spit fire is actually the plane that is in the background of the 42 00:01:59,319 --> 00:01:59,953 original photograph. 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,88 And that was why I chose that one. 44 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:03,990 Ok, 45 00:02:04,424 --> 00:02:05,925 so take a look some of the wardrobe. 46 00:02:06,893 --> 00:02:10,30 This is just a couple examples of what we went with. 47 00:02:10,96 --> 00:02:11,531 Some of this was 48 00:02:11,998 --> 00:02:13,600 relatively. 49 00:02:14,834 --> 00:02:16,269 Some of it could be a little bit more modern. 50 00:02:16,436 --> 00:02:17,237 You can get away with it. 51 00:02:17,237 --> 00:02:17,871 Like the flight suits. 52 00:02:18,38 --> 00:02:18,505 They really have. 53 00:02:18,505 --> 00:02:21,408 It changed too much, especially when you're just looking at something that's 54 00:02:21,541 --> 00:02:23,309 underneath a jacket, same with the barber. 55 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:25,78 We went with just a generic vest. 56 00:02:25,211 --> 00:02:28,982 You could find that in any old normal store, nothing dressed, dress shirt, 57 00:02:29,215 --> 00:02:30,183 vest, very simple. 58 00:02:31,718 --> 00:02:32,352 Knot of the period. 59 00:02:33,453 --> 00:02:36,923 The sub that was a little bit more difficult to find, or stuff like the 60 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:38,491 jackets getting the same jacket, 61 00:02:40,427 --> 00:02:44,831 the different kinds of hats, different kinds of boots, all of these different 62 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:45,165 things. 63 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:50,36 And so one of the places that we pulled from was a vintage costume shop here in 64 00:02:50,36 --> 00:02:53,807 Seattle, which I've used many times before, and they're really terrific, 65 00:02:54,40 --> 00:02:54,674 called vintage costumers. 66 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:58,511 You can also find this stuff, if you have enough lead time online. 67 00:02:59,79 --> 00:03:00,613 You can go into, 68 00:03:02,115 --> 00:03:06,720 sometimes, costume mental shops, well, will allow you to pull it off. 69 00:03:07,153 --> 00:03:10,824 But sometimes you really need to pull vintage stores, thrift stores, things 70 00:03:10,890 --> 00:03:11,224 like that. 71 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:13,159 EBay is another great resource. 72 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:16,429 I find that when you are working in period pieces, 73 00:03:17,464 --> 00:03:18,231 costumes, 74 00:03:18,732 --> 00:03:20,33 a lot of times can look really 75 00:03:21,234 --> 00:03:21,401 costumy. 76 00:03:21,935 --> 00:03:23,636 And that's generally what I try to avoid. 77 00:03:24,37 --> 00:03:28,675 And so I'm a big fan of pulling from as many different sources as you can to 78 00:03:28,742 --> 00:03:29,642 layer different elements. 79 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:32,512 And that's what's going to make your costumes appear a bit more 80 00:03:33,546 --> 00:03:34,247 believable. 81 00:03:34,748 --> 00:03:36,750 So that's where a lot of these things 82 00:03:37,784 --> 00:03:39,986 are taken from and from, you know, 83 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:41,321 different people's adding. 84 00:03:41,388 --> 00:03:43,223 I found stuff for, like, I needed an old boxer. 85 00:03:43,790 --> 00:03:46,493 And I went to vintage costumers, and I got the gloves from them. 86 00:03:46,493 --> 00:03:48,828 And I got shorts from another costume shop. 87 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:53,400 And then I got the boxing hat from eBay, right? 88 00:03:53,466 --> 00:03:56,803 And so the whole thing costs 100 dollars or so, but, 89 00:03:57,871 --> 00:03:58,238 you know, 90 00:03:59,72 --> 00:04:00,473 you get something that looks a lot better. 91 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:01,274 So 92 00:04:02,175 --> 00:04:04,177 that was the direction of the wardrobe. 93 00:04:04,744 --> 00:04:06,913 Then we get to hair and make up with the guys. 94 00:04:07,147 --> 00:04:07,881 I was looking for 95 00:04:08,982 --> 00:04:13,86 two characters, one who had kind of a little bit of a fade in the hair, 96 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:15,622 because I wanted him to match the barber a little bit. 97 00:04:15,689 --> 00:04:17,123 And so fortunately, that's 98 00:04:17,457 --> 00:04:20,193 very, stylistically popular with young men right now. 99 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:24,597 And so that made it pretty easy to come by with the other gentlemen. 100 00:04:25,298 --> 00:04:27,467 I was looking for someone who was in that blonde, strawberry blonde, 101 00:04:29,636 --> 00:04:31,71 kind of a kind of a look. 102 00:04:31,137 --> 00:04:35,141 And fortunately we found one as well, and we happened to catch him in the 103 00:04:35,141 --> 00:04:38,345 summer, where he didn't have much of a beard, and so we got them to trim it 104 00:04:38,345 --> 00:04:38,578 down and 105 00:04:39,713 --> 00:04:40,947 made it work for the photograph. 106 00:04:41,214 --> 00:04:44,517 And so that was what I was going for obviously, we don't need extensive hair 107 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:44,918 and makeup. 108 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:49,389 But we slicked the barber's hair down a little bit, and the other one was kind 109 00:04:49,389 --> 00:04:51,157 of meant to be a little bit long and messy. 110 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:52,625 And I wanted it to catch wind. 111 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:57,464 Because I love that little detail about this photograph is that the wind 112 00:04:57,697 --> 00:05:00,433 catches and blows some things around, and you have a little bit of movement. 113 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:03,303 You have it in the cape, you have it in the hair. 114 00:05:03,636 --> 00:05:08,475 And so I was looking for a subject that had a little bit longer hair 115 00:05:08,975 --> 00:05:09,142 on. 116 00:05:09,542 --> 00:05:10,410 The guy sitting down. 117 00:05:13,546 --> 00:05:14,414 It's get to props. 118 00:05:15,215 --> 00:05:15,782 Dressing out. 119 00:05:15,849 --> 00:05:20,253 This scene with props was one of the trickier parts of this whole process. 120 00:05:21,688 --> 00:05:23,556 We actually, we found the guys pretty quickly. 121 00:05:23,690 --> 00:05:25,325 They all signed up on board. 122 00:05:25,392 --> 00:05:26,593 We had the location down. 123 00:05:26,659 --> 00:05:29,963 The props and the costumes were probably the trickiest part of this 124 00:05:30,30 --> 00:05:30,864 particular shoot. 125 00:05:31,631 --> 00:05:35,368 And when I was looking at the original photograph, I knew that I'd need a 126 00:05:35,368 --> 00:05:36,169 series of things. 127 00:05:36,503 --> 00:05:39,673 And so the barber obviously needs, like, a pair of scissors and a comb. 128 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:41,7 That was pretty easy. 129 00:05:41,541 --> 00:05:43,43 Woodchair that's pretty easy 130 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:43,843 pipe, 131 00:05:45,712 --> 00:05:47,247 relatively easy to come by. 132 00:05:48,14 --> 00:05:49,149 The book was a little bit tricky. 133 00:05:51,551 --> 00:05:52,585 Several editions of it. 134 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:57,223 I was really hoping to find the same edition, which was a little bit 135 00:05:58,358 --> 00:05:58,525 difficult. 136 00:05:58,992 --> 00:06:02,595 I did, I found it, but a lot of them are over in England, because that's 137 00:06:02,662 --> 00:06:03,296 where it was printed. 138 00:06:04,97 --> 00:06:07,233 And so it was a little, I think there was one in the us. 139 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,735 And I had it shipped in. 140 00:06:08,835 --> 00:06:10,337 I mean, it wasn't too expensive. 141 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:14,107 I think it probably cost me 25 or thirty dollars for the book, like 142 00:06:14,174 --> 00:06:14,908 priority shipped. 143 00:06:16,576 --> 00:06:19,145 it was worth it for me to have that little detail, because I really 144 00:06:19,312 --> 00:06:20,580 appreciated that little element. 145 00:06:21,848 --> 00:06:23,717 So that was what the book was. 146 00:06:24,250 --> 00:06:26,686 The cape was just a piece of fabric. 147 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,655 And I sent a bunch of different sample fabrics. 148 00:06:29,155 --> 00:06:31,191 And I said, anything that looks like this, 149 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:35,61 go to the fabric store and find me something that we can just wrap around 150 00:06:35,128 --> 00:06:35,295 them. 151 00:06:35,295 --> 00:06:38,765 It didn't have to be a barber's cape or anything like that. 152 00:06:39,65 --> 00:06:40,200 And so that was relatively 153 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:42,235 simple to use. 154 00:06:43,470 --> 00:06:48,41 The tools with the wrap was a little bit tricky finding a wrap that was in a 155 00:06:48,41 --> 00:06:48,742 similar color. 156 00:06:49,142 --> 00:06:51,144 The tools are kind of mix and match. 157 00:06:51,311 --> 00:06:54,681 You have the brush, you have like a straight razor, a few different things 158 00:06:54,814 --> 00:06:56,683 we kind of just found in a vintage shop. 159 00:06:56,916 --> 00:06:59,719 And we can lay on top, which you'll see a little bit in the frame. 160 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:04,257 The yellow wrap, what we ended up using was a 161 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:06,559 life vest, 162 00:07:07,394 --> 00:07:09,596 which I was originally looking for 163 00:07:10,30 --> 00:07:12,899 for the pilots to wear on the outside of their coat. 164 00:07:12,999 --> 00:07:15,635 Because when you look at a lot of the images of the time, they would 165 00:07:15,702 --> 00:07:19,205 regularly wear the bright vests over top. 166 00:07:19,372 --> 00:07:19,673 And 167 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:20,473 it was 168 00:07:22,275 --> 00:07:25,545 near impossible to find that, especially because I was really trying 169 00:07:25,545 --> 00:07:27,714 to stay as true to the raf as I could. 170 00:07:27,781 --> 00:07:29,749 And so it's really difficult to find 171 00:07:31,718 --> 00:07:35,855 royal, British, royal air force stuff in Seattle from World War ii, believe 172 00:07:35,955 --> 00:07:36,423 it or not. 173 00:07:36,489 --> 00:07:38,358 So we couldn't quite get into that over here. 174 00:07:38,591 --> 00:07:40,827 The closest we got was the navy one. 175 00:07:41,61 --> 00:07:45,231 And because it just didn't look the same to me, I ended up incorporating it 176 00:07:45,231 --> 00:07:45,632 as the rap. 177 00:07:45,699 --> 00:07:48,968 And I think it worked really well, because we kind of hit it a little bit 178 00:07:49,769 --> 00:07:49,936 lastly. 179 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:51,538 We needed a fan. 180 00:07:51,705 --> 00:07:55,8 I wanted to make sure that I would have some wind going. 181 00:07:55,608 --> 00:07:57,711 And so we bring the fan out, or a blower. 182 00:07:57,944 --> 00:08:01,81 In this particular case, we actually found that on the day we were getting 183 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:01,781 some nice breezes. 184 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:04,918 But it was just a matter of preparing, just in case, because I was 185 00:08:04,984 --> 00:08:06,186 anticipating a sunny day. 186 00:08:06,586 --> 00:08:07,854 We got the fan out here, 187 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:11,524 and I can make the wind move if I need to 188 00:08:12,92 --> 00:08:14,394 so those were kind of my considerations 189 00:08:15,795 --> 00:08:16,496 for the props. 190 00:08:18,264 --> 00:08:22,669 When we get to our actors, and this is what they looked like. 191 00:08:23,236 --> 00:08:25,71 I felt like we got em relatively close. 192 00:08:25,305 --> 00:08:30,110 We've got kind of the blondish, red, reddish blondish hair, and then we have 193 00:08:30,744 --> 00:08:32,178 the high fade. 194 00:08:32,412 --> 00:08:33,713 And so that was what I was looking for. 195 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:37,584 I wanted similar haircuts, but I was also cool with them looking a little bit 196 00:08:38,18 --> 00:08:39,52 just more 197 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:41,554 modelly, more traditionally 198 00:08:42,822 --> 00:08:43,957 modern, modern handsome. 199 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:46,259 I guess not that nothing of the other guys weren't. 200 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:47,861 It was just a different time period. 201 00:08:48,94 --> 00:08:51,231 And so we went for a little bit more of a stylized version of the image. 202 00:08:51,798 --> 00:08:55,68 This guy also had some tattoos down one of the arm, which I didn't necessarily 203 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:55,635 mind. 204 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:56,569 I thought it was a little bit anachronistic, 205 00:08:57,637 --> 00:09:01,474 and it was just kind of a cool little detail that I think tweaks the image in 206 00:09:01,474 --> 00:09:02,575 a little bit of a fun way. 207 00:09:02,575 --> 00:09:06,279 So it doesn't really give you as definitive of a sense of time to the 208 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:07,647 image as the original wooden. 209 00:09:07,781 --> 00:09:08,948 So I thought that was pretty cool. 210 00:09:09,849 --> 00:09:10,183 All right. 211 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:11,718 So let's talk about the lighting. 212 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:13,720 Now, if you remember, and 213 00:09:14,988 --> 00:09:18,825 you remember from the theater shoot, that one was really complicated. 214 00:09:19,626 --> 00:09:23,363 That was many, many lights and we had to light an entire scene. 215 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:25,265 But the benefit of being outside 216 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:26,399 is that 217 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:28,201 the scene is lit for you. 218 00:09:28,435 --> 00:09:31,237 And so all you really have to do is control the light on your subject. 219 00:09:31,371 --> 00:09:32,572 And so this one is a little bit simpler. 220 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,508 And so what we've used 221 00:09:35,709 --> 00:09:37,310 for this is one head. 222 00:09:37,544 --> 00:09:42,15 I used one pro photo d 1000 wat head that's the only light that I used. 223 00:09:43,49 --> 00:09:47,854 The reason I used the note for 1000 Watt, over the 500 Watts that I 224 00:09:47,854 --> 00:09:49,956 traditionally would, because I was putting it through an octabox 225 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:53,626 and I was overpowering daylight. 226 00:09:54,27 --> 00:09:57,230 And so I wanted that extra stop of power from the 500 to 1000. 227 00:09:57,697 --> 00:10:01,1 So basically, when I'm working outside in these kinds of environments, I'm 228 00:10:01,67 --> 00:10:02,68 looking for more power, 229 00:10:02,969 --> 00:10:03,870 like whatever I can. 230 00:10:04,270 --> 00:10:08,41 I can always dial it back, but I want to have it if I possibly can. 231 00:10:08,341 --> 00:10:12,345 I had, originally, just in case, brought two of these heads, because I 232 00:10:12,345 --> 00:10:15,382 could always stack them together, put them side by side, gives me an extra 233 00:10:15,548 --> 00:10:16,116 stop of light. 234 00:10:16,249 --> 00:10:16,916 At full power. 235 00:10:17,317 --> 00:10:21,287 I ended up only using and needing one, but I did bring it just in case. 236 00:10:22,756 --> 00:10:26,26 Now, to go along with that, I know I said we only used one light, but I did 237 00:10:26,92 --> 00:10:27,727 modify the light that was there. 238 00:10:27,861 --> 00:10:33,933 I modified the daylight and I used 26 by six scrim gyms with a full stop diffusion. 239 00:10:34,668 --> 00:10:37,604 These are side by side, just to make the diffusion 240 00:10:37,937 --> 00:10:38,872 really large. 241 00:10:39,239 --> 00:10:41,808 You could have also gotten away with a much larger scrim. 242 00:10:42,409 --> 00:10:43,510 You could have also, 243 00:10:44,744 --> 00:10:47,147 in all fairness, probably done it with one. 244 00:10:47,614 --> 00:10:51,951 But the two allowed me just a bit more comfortability in the way I was moving 245 00:10:52,118 --> 00:10:55,855 around, and it allowed me to blend the scene a little bit better in post. 246 00:10:56,423 --> 00:10:58,124 And so yeah, I could have done it with one. 247 00:10:58,191 --> 00:10:59,693 And you're going to see some issues 248 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:03,797 when the modification of the light using this crim is a little bit more 249 00:11:03,797 --> 00:11:06,599 narrow in the second set of images, because I needed the height on. 250 00:11:06,599 --> 00:11:09,869 It definitely makes a difference, and it makes the post production a little 251 00:11:09,869 --> 00:11:10,170 bit more challenging. 252 00:11:11,304 --> 00:11:13,540 But that was what I use for this. 253 00:11:14,174 --> 00:11:18,411 And the modifier, like I said, that I used on the pro photo d one, was the 254 00:11:18,411 --> 00:11:20,13 five foot octabox. 255 00:11:20,647 --> 00:11:21,114 So 256 00:11:22,716 --> 00:11:23,216 if, 257 00:11:24,117 --> 00:11:25,919 and i'll talk about this a little bit later, but 258 00:11:27,53 --> 00:11:30,223 if I happen to have a cloudy day, I don't need the scribs. 259 00:11:31,624 --> 00:11:34,194 I just happened to have a sunny day, and I wanted to make it look cloudy. 260 00:11:34,894 --> 00:11:39,632 But know that the clouds are built in scrims, so you can always keep that 261 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:41,768 kind of a thing in mind when you want to minimize gear. 262 00:11:43,69 --> 00:11:45,772 The, you know, if you really strip this down, it's just 263 00:11:46,172 --> 00:11:49,442 a light with a soft box, is what's creating this effect. 264 00:11:49,776 --> 00:11:50,243 Ok? 265 00:11:51,478 --> 00:11:53,380 So we're going to take a look at the 266 00:11:54,414 --> 00:11:56,316 inspiration image, the sketch, 267 00:11:57,217 --> 00:11:57,717 one more time 268 00:11:58,918 --> 00:12:00,320 before we actually 269 00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:02,722 break into 270 00:12:03,690 --> 00:12:06,559 what the walk through of this is going to look like on video. 271 00:12:07,293 --> 00:12:12,265 Maybe we'll see if we can field some questions about the inspiration mood 272 00:12:12,432 --> 00:12:12,966 board stuff. 273 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:15,35 How much time you spend on interest? 274 00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:18,838 Doesn't it when you're making a moon? 275 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:21,307 Where do you do it anyone sitting, or do you come back to it? 276 00:12:21,541 --> 00:12:22,108 I do it in chunks. 277 00:12:23,476 --> 00:12:25,278 I do my interesting in chunks. 278 00:12:25,912 --> 00:12:26,880 So 279 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:28,648 i'll maybe spend it's 280 00:12:29,849 --> 00:12:31,785 pretty conducive to how you want to find stuff. 281 00:12:31,951 --> 00:12:36,22 So maybe i'll spend half an hour to an hour putting some stuff together once, 282 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:38,825 if I ever have to come back and add to it later on. 283 00:12:38,892 --> 00:12:40,960 Because it'll also automatically generate 284 00:12:42,28 --> 00:12:44,597 close images for you, which I find is really helpful. 285 00:12:45,131 --> 00:12:48,101 And so it kind of almost ferments your board a little bit. 286 00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:50,503 You leave it up for a bit, and then you come back and like, oh, there's 287 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:52,5 something new I can add to it. 288 00:12:52,339 --> 00:12:57,77 And so the longer you lead out on this material, kind of the better, the 289 00:12:57,77 --> 00:12:57,744 better you are 290 00:12:58,812 --> 00:13:03,550 with making it happen in half an hour hour, and then occasionally poke back 291 00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:05,285 in and spend a few minutes, but 292 00:13:05,852 --> 00:13:07,354 not a huge amount of time, 293 00:13:10,256 --> 00:13:13,927 since you are the art director and there is no client at the end. 294 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:14,661 Correct? 295 00:13:15,462 --> 00:13:16,162 Yes. 296 00:13:16,896 --> 00:13:20,500 And are you going to recreate or be inspired by? 297 00:13:21,1 --> 00:13:22,235 To what degree do those 298 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,939 those compromises or other decisions come in? 299 00:13:25,939 --> 00:13:29,476 Is that, as you're sourcing things and you realize, oh, I don't have this 300 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:32,912 exact duplica, I guess I'm going to be inspired by, yeah, how does that process? 301 00:13:34,681 --> 00:13:36,950 I generally aim for, 302 00:13:41,621 --> 00:13:46,359 I generally aim for really trying to nail the authenticity as best as I can. 303 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:47,27 First, 304 00:13:47,694 --> 00:13:49,62 I inevitably have to make compromises. 305 00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:52,98 That's generally how it goes. 306 00:13:52,265 --> 00:13:53,767 But I always push for the 307 00:13:54,734 --> 00:13:55,835 top stuff first. 308 00:13:56,169 --> 00:14:00,340 And so if things happen that I have to make concessions for, then I will. 309 00:14:01,474 --> 00:14:05,145 In this particular example, I really wanted to make the recreation 310 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:07,947 as close as I could. 311 00:14:08,14 --> 00:14:08,915 That was the whole thing. 312 00:14:09,315 --> 00:14:15,388 I was kind of on this coubrick kubric kick, and with Barry Lyndon, he was 313 00:14:15,388 --> 00:14:18,792 going through and almost nailing certain paintings 314 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:22,95 in berry Lyndon pretty 315 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:23,163 almost exacting. 316 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:25,265 And so I was kind of going for that here. 317 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:27,801 I just wanted to create a much wider scene of it. 318 00:14:27,801 --> 00:14:28,635 And basically, 319 00:14:29,602 --> 00:14:29,936 if 320 00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:35,308 it were, if I were there in that space, what were maybe some variations on that 321 00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:35,542 image? 322 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,644 Like, what would those might have looked like? 323 00:14:37,711 --> 00:14:39,212 That was kind of what I was going for. 324 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:40,680 So I wanted to make it look really close. 325 00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:44,517 So that, like, if you've seen the image before and you're familiar with the 326 00:14:44,517 --> 00:14:48,521 image, you undoubtedly are like, oh, that's doing that image it's very much 327 00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:48,755 on purpose. 328 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:51,157 I'm not saying, hey, this was a completely 329 00:14:53,226 --> 00:14:55,395 original my idea, like, this is what I came. 330 00:14:55,462 --> 00:14:58,765 But it's not, it's absolutely me trying to recreate this photograph. 331 00:14:59,232 --> 00:14:59,999 And I try to 332 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:03,36 be very exacting so that it appears that way. 333 00:15:04,504 --> 00:15:07,774 Whereas on the other image, it's a little bit more of a Hodge podge of a 334 00:15:07,774 --> 00:15:10,910 few different things, and so that's not as close to anything. 335 00:15:11,144 --> 00:15:12,112 It gives me a little bit more leniency. 336 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:14,514 It's different approaches. 337 00:15:15,315 --> 00:15:18,818 And sometimes I'm looking to be a little bit more true to the original, 338 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:21,588 and then sometimes I'm looking 339 00:15:23,156 --> 00:15:24,591 to just be very loose with it. 340 00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:28,895 And I think the second one is a little bit more on the loose side but I wanted 341 00:15:29,129 --> 00:15:31,197 to make it feel 342 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:35,368 visually and stylistically, very similar to the first set. 343 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:39,472 And so the second one, although it's inspired by something that looks very 344 00:15:39,539 --> 00:15:42,409 different, it's meant to look more visually similar 345 00:15:42,809 --> 00:15:43,510 to this one. 346 00:15:44,411 --> 00:15:44,911 That makes sense. 347 00:15:46,246 --> 00:15:46,546 Yeah. 348 00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:47,380 So 349 00:15:48,515 --> 00:15:51,84 obviously you're well into your career at this point. 350 00:15:51,317 --> 00:15:54,254 You've got probably more flexibility than a lot of us. 351 00:15:54,654 --> 00:15:56,956 But could you see doing a shoot like this, 352 00:15:57,791 --> 00:15:59,826 just as your own personal work, 353 00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:01,728 as opposed to something that was commissioned? 354 00:16:02,28 --> 00:16:04,631 Like you go out and say, hey, I want to do this and gotten 355 00:16:05,231 --> 00:16:05,398 do? 356 00:16:05,632 --> 00:16:05,932 Sure. 357 00:16:06,433 --> 00:16:06,599 Yeah. 358 00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:07,667 I mean, 359 00:16:08,501 --> 00:16:11,938 there were other other places that I was looking at that we didn't get into 360 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:14,674 creativelive, that were out here, that were just cool locations. 361 00:16:15,75 --> 00:16:16,976 I ultimately didn't have time to do it. 362 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:19,45 But yeah, no, I love 363 00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:20,113 being. 364 00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:25,452 You can definitely do personal projects that have a bit of scope to it. 365 00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:30,757 Obviously, I wouldn't say I necessarily need to go out and spend 5000 dollars 366 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,625 putting together a singular image. 367 00:16:33,126 --> 00:16:33,593 But 368 00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:36,162 if an image costs me 369 00:16:37,130 --> 00:16:38,431 a few hundred dollars, 500000 370 00:16:39,632 --> 00:16:43,503 dollars, whatever it is, and it becomes a showcase piece for me, 371 00:16:45,71 --> 00:16:48,808 then I can use it as it's promotion material. 372 00:16:49,209 --> 00:16:50,377 And so 373 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:53,446 you don't have to, like, you can call in favors. 374 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,682 I've got shots that 375 00:16:56,583 --> 00:16:58,18 look very heavily produced. 376 00:16:58,184 --> 00:17:02,88 And it was me calling in favors across the board for every spectrum of it. 377 00:17:02,88 --> 00:17:04,758 And I think by the time it was all said and done, I was at the cost of lunch 378 00:17:05,58 --> 00:17:06,760 and a few other miscellaneous things. 379 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:09,763 And you can achieve this kind of stuff 380 00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:11,831 if you 381 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:15,535 put in the leg work to do it. 382 00:17:15,769 --> 00:17:15,835 Just 383 00:17:16,336 --> 00:17:17,937 paying for it tends to make things. 384 00:17:18,505 --> 00:17:22,575 It greases the wheels, greases the gears a lot a lot easier. 385 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,310 When you are 386 00:17:24,577 --> 00:17:29,215 doing it for favors, you have to work with time and around people's time, and 387 00:17:29,716 --> 00:17:31,685 be a little bit more patient with certain things. 388 00:17:31,985 --> 00:17:32,652 So, 389 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:34,87 I mean, 390 00:17:35,689 --> 00:17:36,589 other than the 391 00:17:37,691 --> 00:17:38,758 access of this particular 392 00:17:40,93 --> 00:17:42,996 airfood, which everyone has different levels of access, and you can call on 393 00:17:43,63 --> 00:17:46,32 things and get permission for things across war, like the vintage, the 394 00:17:46,32 --> 00:17:46,199 vintage. 395 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:48,902 The vintage train museum is one of those examples. 396 00:17:49,69 --> 00:17:50,236 They do engagement shoots there. 397 00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:54,107 I mean, everything that was actually in this image, I would have no problem 398 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:55,375 funding myself 399 00:17:56,276 --> 00:17:58,845 in terms of the cost of what that image. 400 00:17:59,379 --> 00:17:59,846 I mean, 401 00:18:00,113 --> 00:18:04,184 if I'm not paying for models because I'm doing it for a trade, and commonly, 402 00:18:04,517 --> 00:18:05,618 when I'm doing personal work. 403 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,588 I will shoot some stuff for you. 404 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:12,158 If you do this for me, and we'll get, like, some cleaner, simple, 405 00:18:13,626 --> 00:18:15,161 whatever images you need for yourself. 406 00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:16,963 And so it becomes a trait, that becomes 407 00:18:17,697 --> 00:18:19,199 the way you can call in that favor. 408 00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:20,967 And then sometimes you have 409 00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:24,270 makeup artists, hairstylus that you work with that are friends of yours. 410 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:27,374 And they'll come in and do it just because it's a fun, cool image, just to 411 00:18:27,374 --> 00:18:28,641 do something fun and cool and creative. 412 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:31,478 And so that takes care a lot of that. 413 00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:33,546 I would go, ok, I borrow this chair from somebody. 414 00:18:33,713 --> 00:18:35,882 The fabric is raw material that costs a few dollars. 415 00:18:36,182 --> 00:18:36,816 I buy the book. 416 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:39,185 Ok, you go buy a few other miscellaneous props. 417 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,356 This image, other than the access to the location, 418 00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:46,92 wouldn't really cost me that much 419 00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:47,994 in the grand scheme of things. 420 00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:50,563 So once you can figure out 421 00:18:52,198 --> 00:18:52,332 kind of 422 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:53,933 the key humps 423 00:18:55,368 --> 00:18:59,472 you need to get over, yeah, this stuff is a whole lot more attainable then I 424 00:18:59,472 --> 00:19:00,974 think people may assume it is 425 00:19:01,374 --> 00:19:06,46 it's just generally, you've got to get out and ask, you got to talk to people. 426 00:19:06,746 --> 00:19:10,383 And I find that emails are rarely, 427 00:19:11,51 --> 00:19:14,421 emails are not always the most successful tools of communication. 428 00:19:15,455 --> 00:19:18,658 It's the phone that you have to just call up people and talk to them and 429 00:19:19,859 --> 00:19:21,628 go visit as another one. 430 00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:27,801 And people are more likely to say yes if they can put a face to it and talk 431 00:19:27,801 --> 00:19:28,601 to you, and everything else. 432 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:31,37 So also something to keep in mind 35636

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