All language subtitles for Hart to Heart s03e10 Will Smith.eng

**

-My guest today
came from my hometown.

Of course, I'm talking
about Philadelphia, PA,

and this man, well,
he didn't stay in Philadelphia.

He ended up going to Bel-Air.
This guy's been killing it.

And by killing it,
I do mean he is a Oscar winner,

Grammy winner,
Golden Globe winner,

Critics' Choice winner,
People's Choice winner.

There's way too many winners
to continue,

but the list goes on and on.

More importantly than the wins,
well, the guy's also my friend.

Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome

Will Smith to the show.
[ Sparse applause ]

-Yeah! Yeah!
-See that?

-Hey, strangé. Strangé.
-You hear that?

Did you hear my audience?
-Yes. That was your audience.

I feel. I feel that.
-You heard it?

It was four of us.
-It was four? [ Laughs ]

-It's a very intimate set here.

Very intimate set.
-What's up, man?

-Thank you, first of all,
for coming on, man.

Well, it's coming.
-All right, I'm just saying.

-Can you give it a second?
-I've seen the show.

-Yeah. Give it a second.
We're gonna fill the glass up.

-Okay.
-I like the fact that I asked

you to come
and you made the time.

You didn't know
if you had the time.

-Yes, we're pre-production
for "Bad Boys."

-Okay, but --
-But when my man -- you know,

my man call, you know?
-Man, don't do that.

-Philly, you know how we do.
-Don't do that.

-I was like, we got -- we'll
slide over there for a second.

-Slide it at move it back.
-Move it back for my man.

-Fuck that production!
-[ Laughs ]

-Yeah, fuck that.
We'll figure it out.

All right, look,
you already know what we do.

We drink wine on this show.
I believe great conversations

happen over
great glasses of wine.

This will be
a great conversation.

-Yes, sir.
-So we do need our wine.

Let me call in my somm.
D, come on in, man.

-D.
-DLynn.

-DLynn.
-That's my somm.

-What's up?
-Mr. Smith.

-How you feeling?
-Good. How about you?

-Mr. Hart.
-What are we drinking today, D?

-A bespoke Syrah from the
foothills of the Edna Valley.

-Bespoke Syrah.
-2020 vintage.

-I knew you was gonna go '20.
-Slide Hill Vineyard.

-Mmm!
-Less than 100 cases made.

85 cases, to be exact.
-Goddamn right, it's 85.

-Shall we?
-Nothing but the best for him.

Okay?
-Whoa.

-Yeah. There we go.
-I'll let you taste, Mr. Hart.

I'll pour for Mr. Smith.
-Yes, please.

There you go.
-Mm-hmm.

-Kevin Hart,
let me see how you do that. Mmm!

-[ Sucks loudly ]
-Oh. There you go.

-[ Sucks loudly ]
-Mmm. There you go, Kevin.

Now you got to test the legs.
First you test the legs.

-Absolutely.
-Gotta spray the palate, Kev.

You didn't spray your palate.
Hold up.

You got to spray your palate.
Hold up, hold up.

-[ Slurps loudly ]

[ Coughs ] Okay, hold up.
That is what -- hold up.

That is what
you're supposed to do.

That is what --
hold on, hold on.

You got to spray your palate.
-That's not what you just did.

-Can you explain to him
spraying your palate?

-I know what it is.
But you didn't do that.

-Hold on, hold on.
I did it too hard.

-No, you almost killed
your fucking self.

-I did. I actually did.

I was about the need
mouth-to-mouth over here.

Hold on.
-I'm watching.

-[ Slurps ]

[ Coughs ]
-Come on, don't spit

that fucking wine on me.
-I almost sprayed it.

But no, it's very good.
Thank you.

Very welcome.
-Hit me up with a little more.

-Absolutely.
-Yeah.

Spraying your palate
is, like, you taste it.

Actually, I did it too hard.
I did do it too hard.

But spraying your palate
is like...

-[ Slurps ]
-No, you're doing it wrong.

-[ Slurps ]
-You're doing it wrong.

No, no, no, you don't put it in
and then do it.

You do it from the glass.
-Yeah, I know that.

I'm trying to show you. Look.
-You don't have to show me.

I know.
-[ Slurps ]

-Yeah.
-[ Sputters ]

-Don't do it again.
Don't do it again.

That's your last time.
-Oh, it works.

-No, don't do it again.

I don't want you
to try to do it again.

-It worked before. All right.

-[ Slurps softly ]

-Okay. I should do it less.

-Mmm!
-Oh, sorry.

-DLynn, thank you.
-Yes.

-Thank you.

Will, there's a lot of places

I could start
in this conversation, but...

there's one place that I want
to go on specifically, man.

Dude, I am in a place
of international gain

and exposure based off
of a blueprint

that you set in this business.
-Mm-hmm.

-I want to start in the
conversation of opportunity

attached to the work that
you did that you put into,

I guess you could say
now what's considered

to be the international
exposure and attachment

to a man of color as a lead.

For a long time,
there was a conversation

that we don't really
cross the border.

Our movies don't translate.

My biggest question to you
to start this conversation off

is, did you have the pushback
in the beginning

about going over the water
to promote,

or were studios more intrigued
with the gamble?

How did you -- How did you
basically make it

a consistent thing
to get these movies to go

and be marketed and promoted
on an international scale?

-I guess I'll say that

the first thing that I realized
is that --

you know, I came from music,

so coming from music was
a whole different world, right?

So being in music,

I had already been around
the world one time with records,

So when I came to Hollywood,
there wasn't --

Music was almost like
underground compared to movies.

-Okay.
-So I knew from step one

that marketing was equally
as important as the product.

-Okay.
-It does not matter how good

your product is if you can't
sell it, right?

So I came into it with the idea

that I needed
to be able to sell it.

And the prevailing wisdom
at the time

was that Black actors
don't translate internationally.

-Absolutely. Absolutely.
-Right?

So the hard part is...

So technically at the time,

on paper, that was true...
-Mm-hmm.

Analytics showed that there --
-Analytics showed, yes.

-There was a case
behind the reason.

-That the idea that Black
actors --

the films
and our television shows

didn't travel as well as...
-Absolutely.

-...as, you know, a show
with a white American lead.

-Mm-hmm.

-For me, because I had traveled
with the music,

I knew that
the audience was there.

So I was like,
Why is our --

-They're coming to see my shows.
-Yes, exactly.

-Coming to see the shows.
I've been there.

I just came from Germany.
-Yeah, I just came from Germany.

So I know that people
will come out.

What is the issue?

And at the end of the day,
there were two things I saw.

One...

Black folks
didn't want to travel.

I was talking to actors
and stuff like that.

And there was a -- there was
a reluctance on our part

to get on the plane
and go 14 hours to, you know...

-Said country, to do --
-Said country to walk

on red carpets, right?
So it was --

it was a little bit
of resistance on the part

of Black actors in general,

but that compacted by the idea

that studios didn't believe in
in a Black actor

to sell in the markets, that
was, like, central in my career

when I first went out.

I hated hearing
that I couldn't be in the movie

because it was
a $120 million movie,

and Black actors aren't gonna
be able to cover the...

-Well, you just --
what you just said,

I mean, is information needed --
needed information, right?

And the idea that, okay,

we weren't given
the opportunities matched

and mirrored
with the opportunity

that some were turning down.
-Absolutely.

-Here's the thing that really,
like...

that really fucking amazes me.

You know, when you think
about the world

of marketing and promotion
at this level, at this tier --

I'm not talking about now.

I think there's other
talented actors and actresses

that you can add
to the conversation,

but for your space
at the time of crazy success,

of crazy trajectory --
you and Tom.

-Yeah.
-It was you and Tom Cruise?

Right? You and Tom Cruise --

-Tom was the blueprint to me
for promotions.

He took it most seriously.
And I watched him.

I studied everything
that he did.

And I was trying to outdo
Tom Cruise

in terms of promotion.
-He's so fucking competitive.

-Yeah. No, but you --
Tom is unbeatable, right?

-He's the highest level.
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-A close talker, too.
Tom talks like this.

-Yeah. No, 'cause he'll make
sure -- he'll make --

he just wants you to understand
what he said.

-Let me get it. Listen, Kevin.

We're gonna do it.
But I need to --

Are you committed?
Are you committed?

-I need you to understand --
-Because if you are --

Do you get it? Do you get it?
-Yes.

[ Both laugh ]

-He does the laugh.

I said it --
I said it respectfully.

I said it respectfully to Tom,
and I was -- you know,

'cause he scared me
when he first did it.

-Yeah.
-He just comes in close.

-He just wants you to feel
what he's talking about.

-He gets in there.
-Yeah, he gets in there.

-I said, "Whoa, Tom."
-Tom, it's like...

-Yes, that's a lot.
-You just got to --

And then you try to laugh
and cross your arms.

-Back up. Back up.

He'll come right back.
-He'll come right back in there.

-He's fucking aggressive.
-Yeah. He gets it done.

-That's the aggressive,
competitive nature.

I'm glad that you see that, too.
-Yeah.

-I'm glad you see that, too.
All love Tom.

This is something that nobody
else will tell you.

We're telling you,
it gets close.

-It gets close.
-But it's a good --

-It's a good close.
It's a good close.

-It's a good thing.
-He stays fresh.

He's always got some gum.
-Yeah. He wasn't hot.

He didn't fuck me up.
-It's not hot, right.

That's true. It's not hot.
-He didn't fuck me up.

-It's room-temperature breath.
-It's just a very...

-It's just close.
-...a very close, yes.

-Yes.
-We got to take a break, guys.

We got more "Hart to Heart"
when we come back after this.

Don't go anywhere.

**

**

-Welcome back. We're still here
with Will Smith.

Yes, 'cause it's "Hart to Heart"
and that's what we're having.

So, Will,
here's where I get curious.

-Mm-hmm.
-When the movies started to get

bigger, the ideas got bigger.
-Yep.

-At this point, who are you
searching for to help you,

like, really execute
in a task of bigger, better?

Like, you know,
the "Independence Day"

was one tier.
Then after that, you got

the world of "Men in Black."
Then you got -- I mean,

the movies just keep growing.

Was this a Will Smith engine?

Was this the team of managers,
agents, or whatever?

Who acted as the driving force

in searching
for the right material

to help you along
that trajectory?

-So, you know, my manager
J.L., James Lassiter.

J.L. was the arbiter of taste.

-Okay.
-So in the heyday,

the 10 movies I made
at the top of my career,

J.L. was choosing the films.
-Wow.

-And he just --
he just had an eye, you know?

I didn't want to make
"Pursuit of Happyness."

I didn't want to make "Ali."

-Get the fuck out of here.
-Yeah.

And J.L. was pushing on --

you know, J.L. picked
"Men in Black."

I kind of understood
"Men in Black" a little bit,

but I didn't want
to make "Men in Black."

That was the next year
after Independence Day.

So I didn't want to make
two alien movies back to back.

-How did he convince you?

-Steven Spielberg sent
a helicopter for me.

-You're a goddamn liar.
-Yeah. I was in New York.

-To talk to you?
-To talk to me. To talk.

Like, it landed at his house,

and he had me at, "Hello."

-Well, yeah. You can't say no
after you get on a helicopter.

-Yeah, you get off
the helicopter at his house.

-And he says, "Come on..."
-And it was the first time

I'd ever had lemonade
with carbonated water.

-Yeah. You can't say no.
-You can't say no to that.

It was lemonade
with carbonated water and --

-But you had to act
like you had it before.

-Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like,
"This is regular."

-That's good shit.
-Yeah.

-Is this carbonated water?
-Just like my grandmother

used to make.
-It was carbonated water?

I would say that. Yeah.
-This is good shit, Steve.

-But, yeah,
he flew me in and he --

he said the coldest shit.

He said -- He said, "Tell me --

Tell me why you don't want
to make my movie."

And he was the producer.
And I was like...

And he put the ellipses
at the end.

It was the dot, dot, dot.

"Tell me why you don't want
to make my movie."

It was the dot, dot, dot.

If he had continued,
he would have said,

"Joker, you know, I made 'Jaws,'
right?"

-Yeah.
-"You know I made 'E.T.'"

-Yeah, or motherfucker.
-He might have said --

He's respectful.

-"Why don't you want
to make my movie?"

-"Why you don't
want to make..." [ Laughs ]

-Like, a very low tone to it.
-And I walked in his house,

and he had the "Jaws" poster,
and the -- what is it --

the "Jurassic Park."
He had everything.

So it was just so I would know.
-What's your answer?

-What's my answer?
And I was like, you know,

I didn't want to make
two alien movies back to back.

I didn't want to go from
"Independence Day"

to "Men in Black," you know.

I felt like I would -- I didn't
want to be the alien guy.

-But I mean, honestly,
it's a worry that we have,

because I think the biggest
thing that we think about

while having a moment
at the top is,

well, how do you stay
at the top?

And I don't want
to make mistakes.

I definitely don't want
to keep doing the right thing.

I don't want them to think that
this is the only thing I can do.

I want to expand and do more.
So I understand that logic.

I understand
why you would be worried.

I mean, for him,
it's just basically like,

"I'm Steven Spielberg
and you're protected."

-Yeah.
-"I don't make bad stuff."

-Yeah. And that goes back to
one of the earlier questions.

It's like...it's a team sport.

You know? And...

there's a couple of
really critical things.

It's like,
who is at your right hand?

Like, who your friends are,
who you're with every day

will make or break your dreams.

You cannot build a career

and you probably -- you know,

I'm gonna speak specifically
from my experience,

but you probably can't do
much of anything in this life

at a high level
without a rock-solid team.

-In your rise of it,

did you see that,
or were you the individual

that felt you were doing it
by yourself?

-No, I never really thought
I was doing it by myself.

I knew that I had to be
the tip of the spear

in terms of discipline.

I knew I had to be the tip of
the spear in terms of direction.

But I always knew
that I needed my squad.

You know, we've talked a lot
about, you know,

our parents.
-Absolutely.

-And, you know,
my father was military.

So it was very clear to me
that there was a commander.

So the commander is in charge.

But if you ain't got
nothing to command,

nobody is willing to follow you,
you got nothing, you know.

So I was very military-minded
in that early part.

I remember the first --

Do you remember
the first time you came

and we worked out together?

-Listen, I'll fucking...
-[ Laughs ]

-That was in --
That was, like, the heyday.

-I'll give you an example,
right? So, Charlie Mack --

for those who do not know,
Charlie Mack

used to be Will's security.
-Yeah.

-And Charlie Mack basically
has been in Will's life forever.

Charlie tells me --

this is in, like, the beginning
of my career --

"Kev, you got to get to Will.

You got to get around Will."

You know, everybody
who knows Charlie Mac,

they know Charlie Mack
does his best --

-"Kev, Kev, Kev, Kev,
I'm telling you,

I'm telling you,
I'm telling you.

You got to be around Will."
-You just got to show up.

-"I'm just saying.
Just show up.

You just got to be here.
You just got to be --

You got to be -- You got
to be -- You got to be --

You got to be near
that level of greatness.

And if you spend time --
if you spend time --

I'm saying -- what the fuck
is you laughing at?

I'm I'm trying to help you.
I'm trying to help you."

-He's filming in New York.
Charlie calls me.

"Kev, Will is doing
'Men in Black.'

They're filming it in New York.
You got to get down here.

You got to come to set.
The director, everybody cool.

But you just got
to get some of that energy.

You got to get his energy.
I'm telling you.

Shit just gonna happen."

All right, I mean...

Okay. Do you want me
just to come?

Whatever.
I'll figure it out.

The first time I do,
we come to New York.

That's one of the first times.
I see you on set.

Wow. This is when I got to see
your big trailer, right?

It's two times
I visited you on set.

Oh, man,
this is dope as fuck.

Look at this trailer.
Goddamn double-decker trailer.

Holy shit. You had a busy day.

So we talked for a second.
You were right back out.

Couldn't really do much.
I go visit you on set again.

Will's got a trainer
with him now.

Things have changed. He's got
a personal trainer on set.

By the way,
this is where I got the idea

to get a personal trainer
and have him travel with me.

-Darrell Foster. Darrell Foster.

-Darrell Foster is in Will's
gym trailer.

Will has a gym trailer.

I got the idea to get
a gym trailer from fucking Will.

You're right.
I need a gym trailer. Right?

Okay. Iron sharpens iron.
This is what I need.

This is what the fuck Will had.
I got to get the same thing.

Will, unbeknownst to him,
his guy's like,

"Yo, go in there
in the gym trailer.

Will in there.
He's just fucking around."

We go in the gym trailer.
The trainer's in there.

He hit the bell. Bing!

"What's up, man? How you doing?"

"Hey, go. Y'all in or out?"

"I don't understand."

"Well, you in or out?
You come in here,

you're in my sanctuary.
You don't fuck around.

Either you came to work or you
came to fucking do nothing.

You won't do nothing
in my house."

-[ Laughs ]

-"I came to see --
I came to see Will.

Charlie Mack told me
come and see Will."

"You doing the set or not?!"

"Yeah. Yeah. I'll put it up.
Yeah, I, uh...

I get down. I get one in."

I go struggling with a set.

"Yeah. Okay.
We got a bitch in here!"

-[ Laughs ]

-"Who the fuck is this?
Who -- Who is he?"

I mean, literally, I ended up
doing a fucking workout.

I ended up doing a workout.
-Yes.

-I just came to tell Will hi.
You see me after.

You like, "Yeah. Kev,
he don't fuck around."

-No, no, no. Darr--
-Intense.

-I didn't know
if you was ever gonna

speak to me again after that.

-No, I didn't know
what the fuck that was.

I was really -- I was upset.
Like, I left.

Like, I left, you know?
I know I can't beat him.

But in the car, I was like,
"Who the fuck he think

he was talking to,
calling me a bitch?"

'Cause I couldn't do
the goddamn weight.

-Oh, man.
-He didn't even ask me how much

I could bench. He just --
"Get down."

I go, "That's a lot of --
I don't know if those plates

right for me.
I think that's Will.

Them plates is for Will.
They're not for me."

Well, I hate to even stop
or break it up, but I have to.

Will, you know it's my show.
And unfortunately, in this show,

we have to pay bills.
Guys, don't go anywhere.

We got more "Hart to Heart"
coming back after this.

Please!

**

**

-Welcome back
to "Hart to Heart."

I'm sitting here
with Will Smith.

So, Will, coming to those
movie sets, man,

like, I saw your approach
to work.

-Yep.
-I saw what you had set up,

and I realized your team --
so to get back on track,

as you're talking about
the team...

-Yep.
-...your team has always

been significant, and by the
way, that team hasn't changed.

Like, you got a lot
of the same fucking personnel.

They've been a part
of your journey throughout.

-Yeah.
-So hearing about J. and making

the decisions on these scripts
and hearing you say that

you didn't want to do
certain scripts...

-I know, yeah.
-...is unreal.

What was the turning point
for "Pursuit of Happyness"?

-There was a "20/20" piece --
oh, the TV show "20/20."

It was like "60 Minutes."

And they did a piece
about Chris Gardner.

So I had read the script,

and I really couldn't get it
in the script.

And then when I saw
the "20/20" piece,

it was like you could see
the structure of the story,

the beginning, middle,
and end of the story

in that small section.

And then I met
with Chris Gardner and...

There's something about

human beings who have suffered.

-Mm-hmm.
-Right? And overcome.

-Okay.
-You know, Chris Gardner

is one of those people.
-Seen rock bottom.

-That rock bottom --
-Doesn't get any lower

than his version of rock bottom.
-Yes.

-And making it out of that.

-He took me to the bathroom
in Oakland

where he had to sleep
with his son.

-Wow. Wow.

-And when I stood
in that space with him,

and it was like the ghosts
jumped in my body.

And then I was like, "Got it."

-Did you -- This is before
making the decision?

This is him talking to you
about the journey, the story?

-Talking about it,
showing me around.

And, you know, I met his son
and, you know, it's like,

you know, people who have
suffered to that level

have a secret, you know?
And...

I could tell he had a secret
for me to learn in that process.

And, you know,
at that point in my career,

I had discovered that
I don't work for money.

I work to learn.
-Wow. Okay.

-I work to grow.
-Okay.

-I work to meet people.

I work to expand and to evolve.

And I trust that
if I keep my mind

in the space of great humans
that have something to teach

and I work in that space,
I trust that money and accolades

and all of that stuff
will follow.

-What did you feel you had
to do to say, "Okay,

I now need to raise
the bar for myself.

I need to go past this level.

To get here,
I got to unlock this"?

What did you do and where
did you go to to unlock that?

-So I am a serious,

devoted studier.
-Very, very.

-Right? So, you know,

I probably -- I read,
you know, 12 books a year.

-A year?!
-Yeah.

-Goddamn!
-Yeah. Yeah, it's --

-I don't have none.
-Huh?

Well, books on tape count.
Books on tape count.

-Now, I listen.
-I know you do that. I can tell.

-I listen.
-I know you do that.

-What do you mean you can tell?
What does that mean?

-Well, you know, it's just,
you have a book --

-What the fuck just happened,
Will?

-I'm just saying, you look like
a book-on-tape kind of guy.

I can just feel it.
I can see it.

It's not a bad thing.
You're listening --

-Doesn't sound like
a good thing.

-No, it's a great thing.

It's like you're consuming
the material.

-I fall asleep.
That's the only reason

why I don't read. I fall asleep.
-I know. I can feel that.

I can feel that.

I'm just saying I can sense it,
Kevin. I'm not --

Why are you making it a thing?
You're making it --

-I'm not making it a thing.
It just doesn't sound like

you're coming...

-I'm saying...
-It's fine.

-...I can tell you're
a book-on-tape kind of guy.

Kevin, why are you --
-'Cause I'm a bitch.

'Cause that's what you think.

This stems back to the trailer.
It stems back to the trainer.

-At some point...
-It's okay.

-...you're gonna have to
look at yourself.

-Okay. It's all right.
It's fine.

-You're projecting now.
-I'll read a book

starting today,
and I'm gonna text you.

I'm gonna text you
when I finish the book.

I'm gonna get a book
under my belt.

12 books a day, study,
information.

You're a person that needs
and wants information.

-I am crystal clear
that the quality of my life

is going to be directly
a result of the quality

of my understanding,
and, you know,

the process in in my life
of trying to learn was --

you know, probably I started
reading like that late.

I didn't read an entire book
until I was 30.

-Okay.
-Yeah. So that was, like --

the first time I ever read
a book cover to cover, you know,

I was 30 years old, you know?

"Malcolm & Martin & America"

and then "The Autobiography
of Malcolm X," you know.

And so I started reading late.
I always studied,

but I need -- I wanted
to hear people talk to me.

So, you know, I was a guy that
I liked to listen to people.

But when I started reading...

a lot, my life really took off
and I could --

I started to be able
to solve the problems

of my life more effectively.

And then I started a thing
where I would read something,

and if I liked it, I would try
to make contact with the author.

Right?
-Okay.

-So, and then in that process,

like, education is everything.
-Okay.

-The solution
to every problem in life

is in a book somewhere.

Somebody experienced
the shit you experienced,

and they wrote down
what they went through

and the conclusions
they made from that.

-Man, I mean, listen,
when you get to that place

and you have clarity,

I think that's when
the decisions

that you're making
just get better.

Right? I got clarity, too.

And in this moment of clarity,
I'm gonna take a quick break.

Guys, please don't go anywhere.

We got more "Hart to Heart"
coming back after this.

**

**

-Welcome back to
"Hart to Heart."

I'm sitting here
with Will Smith,

a.k.a. "Mr. Philadelphia."

Will, so, you know, you're now
making the decision to study,

research, do more,
understand more, right?

-In the business, I read every
book on story structure.

-Okay.
-So everything about

the structuring of a movie,
you know?

I put myself through,
you know, an intensive study

around what makes a great movie.
-Damn.

-And then behind a great movie,
it's a great story.

Okay, so then what are
the components of a great story?

And then I just, you know,

went into the history
of the greatest

and, you know,
most powerful stories ever told.

And then I wanted to understand
why they were working.

What are the components?
-I mean, that's how you get

to the foundation
of what makes the character...

-Right.
-...the character, right?

Like when you peeling back
layers and layers and layers

and you're now finding
more energy,

more joy and discovery
with each layer, right?

-And the realization
that my work

and my life aren't separate.

As I explore Muhammad Ali,
for example,

and I try to put on
Muhammad Ali,

it's not just a character.

It's like I'm looking at myself.

I'm seeing where
I'm not great like that,

where I'm not brave like that.

I'm seeing, okay,
I am funny like that.

I do have those
kind of difficulties.

Like, the exploration
of a character

becomes the exploration
of self, right?

You're actually taking a good
look at yourself

through the lens
of this character,

through the lens
of this experience.

-And while doing it,
it helps you not only grasp

that thing that you're trying
to portray better,

but at the same time,
you're able to do work on you.

That's pretty fucking --
that's actually a very --

a very interesting approach to
breaking down not just material,

but the approach to you, like,

embarking on
that character journey.

-Yeah.
-Have you ever gotten to a point

to where you felt
like you got lost?

-Yeah, I've been lost two times.
-Which roles?

-I got lost
in "Six Degrees of Separation,"

-Mm.

-and that was a bad loss.

-Where are you
at in your career?

-So this is before everything.
I did it before everything.

Before "Bad Boys," everything.
-I'm saying, how old?

I know the movie.
I'm saying how old were you?

-22?

-Okay.
-Maybe 22.

-This is like first real movie
after the show?

-Yeah. So this was --
it was during the show.

It was during the time
of the show.

And just right before
"Independence Day."

-Okay.
-And, you know,

it was Donald Sutherland
and Stockard Channing.

-You were with the big dogs.
-Courtney B. Vance had done it

on Broadway, you know,
so I was like, "I got to do it."

So I went so deep
into the character.

I spent nine days
without breaking character

before we shot, right?

-Is this because of you,
or is this coming from --

-Well, that was me.
No, that was --

-Someone like, "Yo, you got to
go deep. Go in character.

Don't go in there
not in character."

This is just you overthinking,
overworking.

-Just being stupid.
Just doing too much.

-Okay.
-And I went really far

into the character and,

like, I fell in love
with Stockard Channing,

and I was like,
"Oh, no, the movie's over,

and that feeling's
not going away."

I was like -- and that's when
I realized that you're --

What you call you,
if you do something else

long enough,
your mind will twist.

-Conform?
-Like, you can -- Yeah.

It'll conform to that.
-Convince yourself of anything.

-You sit in front of somebody
looking long enough, you know,

and your lines are,
"How much I love you" --

-You're not bad.
-[ Laughs ]

-You know, you're all right.
-You know?

-This day four.
I think I do love you.

-You know what? I'ma sit closer.
I'ma sit closer.

You know? [ Laughs ]

But, like, I went far.
I went far in "Six Degrees."

And coming back
to "The Fresh Prince,"

I actually forgot
how to play Will.

-Wow. Wow.
-And Alfonso was like,

"What the fuck
is wrong with you?"

I was like,
"What do you mean, Alfonso?"

-Oh, shit.
-Like, but I literally

couldn't hear.
I had twisted my voice so long.

It was like I lost how I walked.
-Yeah.

-I had walked, you know,
for three and a half months

like that character,
and I went so hard,

and it was like --
it was actually scary

that you can slip away
like that.

-And by the way,
you know, you --

I've heard about these things.

I've -- I can't say
that I've experienced them

because I've never dove
that deep into.

-You will.
-But I've heard about the side

of like, yo, you get lost
and then you got to,

like you said,
find your way back to

what's considered to be normal.

Okay.
"Six Degrees of Separation."

-"Emancipation."

I went too far
in "Emancipation."

-Really?
-Yeah.

-In research and everything?

-Just bringing it up,
I start to get teary.

-Okay.
-Right?

It's like I wanted to --

I wanted to feel
the degradation of slavery.

-Okay.
-And I just, I went --

I went too far in it.
And it was -- it's like...

you know, the level
of human brutality.

-Yeah.
-What we will do to each other.

And, you know,
I had the metal --

I had the chains on my neck.

And we were working and,
you know, so I was like,

"I want the real weight.
Put the real weight of them.

I want the real chains,
all of that."

So they got, you know, old...
-Yeah.

-...chains, and so they put it
on my neck.

And they were
fitting it for size.

And I'm standing there,
and the prop master

went to put the key in,
and the key didn't work.

-Panic.
-And I was like --

And I was like, "Oh, no."
I was like, "Will, relax."

And I'm standing there,
and they're running around

and they couldn't
get me out of it.

And I'm standing there
and those chains, dude.

-Jesus Christ.
-And like that -- right on

that hyperventilating edge.

And I'm okay. I'm okay.

And they found it
and they got it out.

And I was like, you know...

Peter was the character.

He didn't -- nobody was running
around to get him out, you know?

And I just kept falling
deeper and deeper

into that understanding, like...

you know,
coming face to face with...

-That!
-...that level of atrocity.

And we're out in the scenes
and, you know, it was,

you know, getting called
"nigger" a hundred times a day,

you know, by very good actors.

-Yeah, by day --
-Very, very good actors,

exquisite performers,
exquisite performers.

-You be like, "Hey, man."
-Yeah. [ Laughs ]

-"Are you --
Are we still acting?"

-I was like, "Hey, hey!
Cut, cut."

-"Cut. Can I talk to you
for a second? You..."

-Hey. [ Snaps fingers ]
-"Your 'niggers' have gotten

sharper since we..."
-Get your boy.

-"They've gotten a lot sharper
since we started."

-Lighten up on that "e-r."
-Yeah, can you --

-Lighten up on that "e-r."
-Just for me?

Two of them. Fuck it up.

"I've never seen an actor
give eight great takes

that are the same in my life.

You ain't miss one 'e-r.'"
-[ Laughs ]

-"This whole set, not one of you
guys have missed one 'e-r.'"

No, I get it, getting lost
in those --

-I dream about Peter still.
-Wow.

-Like, and that's what happens
when, like, when you --

when you spend that time
and you push your --

you push your mind that far
and you just consume it

and you surround yourself
on all sides by it.

And that's what happened.
It, like, starts to leak

into your subconscious,
and now you're dreaming.

And, you know,
I wouldn't give it back.

It was one of
the greatest experiences

I've ever had as an actor.

It's like Peter
introduced me to God.

Right?
-Wow.

-Like, my faith got solid...
-Wow.

-...after working on that movie.
-Wow.

Wow.
I don't know about you guys,

but after hearing that,
I want a little more wine.

We're gonna take
a quick break.

We got more "Hart to Heart"
coming up after this.

DLynn, please.

**

**

-Welcome back.
This is still "Hart to Heart."

And we are talking
with Will Smith.

An amazing conversation.
-You realize we didn't cheers.

We didn't cheers.
We both started drinking.

-'Cause you were so persistent
on getting your goddamn glass

filled
that you didn't think to do it

and you wanted
to choke yourself.

If you had of thought
for two seconds

about what we were
supposed to do

and not damn near kill yourself,
we would have cheers-ed.

-Do you want to cheers
or you don't want to cheers?

Right?
-I'm saying you're right.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Cheers.
Cheers. I appreciate you, man.

-Let's do it without
the commentary next time.

-Yeah, well, absolutely.
Okay. Sorry.

Dude, I'm so engulfed

and engaged by what
you're talking about.

I want to go to a point now
where it seems

as if you made this shift,
right?

Before the movie "Focus,"
Will --

Will wasn't around for a minute.

There seemed to be a break.
Right?

And I don't know what the break
was for. I don't know why.

And then there's another break,
and then you come back

and there's this, like --
there's this commitment

to the generation
of new and now --

social media,
the idea of YouTube,

your bucket list.
-Yeah, yeah.

-What did you see
that made you determine

to make those decisions at the
level that you made them at?

-I saw you and The Rock whooping
my ass at the box office.

-Okay. All right.

-And I was like,
"It can't happen."

-I didn't make --
I didn't expect it to --

-No, that's what happened.
Let's keep it real.

I saw you and The Rock...
-A quick turn.

-...whooping my ass
at the box office.

-Yeah. Got it.
-And I knew you were talking

about me behind my back.
I could tell. I could tell.

-Well, I don't think --
I actually don't --

-No. All right.
-Okay. We may have said --

-We're from Philly.
It was you and me.

Now, all of a sudden,
every time you're with Dwayne.

-There was one moment,
I think, where I was quoted,

"This is my motherfucking city."

-Yes. Right.

-Outside of that...
-I heard that.

[ Both laugh ]

-No, man.
-Oh, he got a new friend now.

-[ Laughs ]
-Oh, so he got a new --

he got a bodybuilding friend
now, huh?

-It was a real --
there was a real thing, like --

like, I don't think
people understand

what we were able to witness,
right?

Like, you know,
you have people that engage

in social media
and some that don't.

And by the way,
either one is fine.

But there was a real commitment
to working that machine,

by the way,
that matched the energy

of how you work the box office,
how you work the fan base.

And now there's a seamless
consistency through it all.

-So there was a couple things
that happened.

You pointed out
a couple of spots.

So, the first thing,

the first time I, like,
tucked back a little bit...

2010...

was, like, the greatest year

of my life as an artist,
as a parent.

"Karate Kid" came out in June.
-Mm-hmm.

-"Whip My Hair" came out,

you know, in October.
-Both kids.

-Both kids, yeah.
-Climbing away.

Seem to be happy
finding a career.

-And I'm building this dream
of a family I've had in my mind.

I'm gonna do it better
than my father did it.

-Mm-hmm.
-We've talked about it.

-Absolutely.
-You know, my father

was abusive, you know, and...

I told myself I would never have
that kind of energy

with my family.

And I had a dream and an idea
of a family that I was building.

And pretty much 2010 to 2012,

I had achieved everything
that I had ever dreamed.

I was beyond
the wildest dreams.

I had been blessed
beyond anything I can imagine.

But nobody in my family
was happy.

-Mm.
-Right? Like...

Nobody wanted
to be in a platoon,

-Mm-hmm.
-Right? You know?

And Willow was the first one
to begin the mutiny.

And, you know, it was --

It was the -- It was
my first realization

that success and money
don't mean happiness.

-Yeah.
-Right?

Up until that point,
I really believed

that you could succeed your way

to a house and a family

and that you could win
your way to happiness.

-Yeah, we're happy.
-Yes.

-We have to be happy.
Look what we have.

-Look what we have.
-Yes, we're happy.

-And that was my first
introduction to the idea that

material circumstances
do not equal happiness,

and in a lot of cases they can
be the reason you're not happy.

-Mm-hmm.
-You can -- You can have

so much stuff
that it makes you miserable.

And so that became --
so that was my first pull back.

And I was like, okay,
what am I missing?

And that's when
I started reading

and, you know,
studying psychology

and the relation
to human happiness.

-Mm-hmm.

-I would say I was never,
like, unhappy.

Like, I love life.
-Mm-hmm.

-But I was driving
the people around me

in a way that I was leaving
scorched earth around me, right?

So I was like, okay,
what am I missing?

And then that's when
I started, you know, reading

and I -- I say it this way.
It makes --

It makes people laugh
when I say it.

But it's like I discovered
feelings, right?

That -- you know, we talked
about this before, too.

-You can see it in my face.
-Yeah. 'Cause, like --

-I align. I understand.

-Like, I never give a fuck
about feelings.

You can't care about feelings.
How are you gonna win

if you're worried
about how you feel?

-I don't have fucking time
for that.

-Yeah.
I don't care how I feel,

so I definitely don't care
how you feel, right?

And if you feel bad,
you better keep it to yourself.

-Don't tell me.
-Exactly.

-Don't bring it over here.
-Don't bring it over here.

-'Cause I got shit to do
-Now you pulling me down.

-Don't bring that energy here.
-Right.

So, as you probably learned
also, that doesn't work at home.

-It's the worst shit
in the world.

-[ Laughs ]
-It's the worst.

You don't have a -- You don't
have a bigger advocate...

-Yeah.
-...for what you're saying

than Kevin Hart.
There's a day where you go --

and I know what you're
talking about -- when you go,

"What is it that I'm doing?"

-What the fuck is wrong
with y'all?

-Yeah, are you kidding me?
Have y'all looked around?

-Y'all niggas better clap.
-You better.

And there's a moment.
-[ Laughs ]

-There's a moment where
you realize you have to go,

"Oh, shit."
-Yeah.

-Like, my little girl...
-Mm-hmm.

-My little girl
don't give a damn about that.

My little girl
want to hold my hand and...

-Exactly.
-...get a hug. Yo, my son --

Goddamn it,
I ain't rode a bike with this --

I need to get on a bike.
-Exactly.

-I need to sit down...
-All of that.

-...sit at the table and talk
and not do the thing

that is organized
and structured, like you --

I know what you're saying.
-Yeah.

-I see. I understand clearly.
-I'm not crying.

I'm just wiping my eyes.
-That's your business.

-I'm just saying.
I mean, I just don't want you

to think you're interviewing me
so good

you're making me cry.
-It's fine.

It's fine. By the way,

they call me
the young Barbara Walters.

[ Laughter ]

-Negro -- Negro Walters.
[ Laughter ]

-Within that, right,

we had a great conversation
one time.

We don't have to go
into the Willow of at all.

But I remember what you told me,
and, you know,

the line with the -- the,
"Whip my hair back and forth"

and success and everything.
-Yeah.

-So your moment where you now
sit in that, you realize that,

was the decision,
"I'm gonna now commit to this"?

-Yes. It was like, "Okay so..."

You know, that was
the first thing I had achieved

everything I wanted.
I was like, "Okay,

so that's not gonna make,
you know..."

I seemed pretty happy.

I was cool with it,
but nobody around me.

So then I started --
excuse me --

trying to figure out what
the thing that I was missing.

So I started...

...trying to be concerned

for everybody's feelings.
-Mm-hmm.

By the way, this is you after
"Six Degrees of Separation."

-Yeah, right. [ Laughs ]
-You coming back to the set...

-Yeah.
-...of "Fresh Prince"

and trying to walk.
-Yes, exactly.

-You're trying to have feelings
without knowing

how to best orchestrate
that feeling

'cause you haven't done it.
So now I'm trying to learn.

Am I doing it correctly?
Are you -- I got it.

-And then that's when I, like,
discovered, you know,

therapy and all that.
Oh, people can help.

Oh, you don't have
to do it yourself. Somebody --

Okay. All right, so...

All right. Somebody can help me
talk to my daughter.

Somebody can help me talk
to my sons and my wife.

Okay.
Oh, cool. That's perfect.

You know, so I started,
you know,

doing that and trying to work
and trying to understand.

And the hardest part

was to give a fuck.
-Mm.

-Right?
So I'm sitting there,

and it's like it is so hitting
that fear spot within me

because if you give in to
feelings, you will be destroyed.

-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
-If you give in to feelings,

you are going to be destroyed.

So it was almost like
the life and death for me.

So I was trying to learn
how to settle in there,

learning how to settle in there.

And then, you know,
coming out of that,

the other phase you were
talking about when I started

with social media,
part of that time of, like,

spending dipping into feelings,
I was realizing

I wasn't living
how I wanted to live.

-Okay.

-I was living
how I needed to live

to sustain
the picture that I wanted.

-You weren't stepping
outside the comfort zone?

-Yes, I was like -- I was --
I wasn't --

There were things
that I wanted to do.

There were things
I wanted to say.

There were places
I wanted to go.

But the life
that I built didn't allow.

-Didn't allow you to.
-Right?

-You can't step outside
the line.

-Can't step outside the line.

You know, I'm working
with companies

and things like that that
need me to be a certain way.

-Brand-friendly.
-My family needs me.

Yes, absolutely.
-I have to be the brand

that I have built
over the course of 20 years.

And I have to be as professional
and I have to be this thing.

-Absolutely.
-And by the way, in doing that,

well, there is a reservation
that presents itself

at some point in time,
because I want to do this.

-I want to do something else,
you know. I don't --

I don't want that
to be my schedule.

I want to have
a different schedule.

-Yeah.
-And exactly what I thought

would happen when I went into
dealing with feelings

and looking at that,
it was like, "Oh, shit.

Well, there's a lot of stuff

that I've agreed to do
that I don't want to do."

-Yeah. Start to unpack now.
-Right?

-Now it's time to unpack
some luggage in there.

-Yes, you know?
-Yeah.

-And I think the the thing

where I really --
the demarcation line

was on my 50th birthday
when I jumped out

the helicopter
over the Grand Canyon.

That was, like, the day
I decided I was gonna live

how I wanted to live.

-Wow.
Stop right here for a second.

We got to take a quick break.
Please keep it locked.

We got more "Hart to Heart"
coming up after this.

-Three, two, one!

Go! Yay!

Whoo! Yeah!

[ People cheering ]

-Yeah!

[ People cheering ]

-Whoo! Ah!

**

**

-Welcome back
to "Hart to Heart."

I'm still sitting here
with Will Smith,

and the conversation is amazing,
as you guys can see.

Will, you were talking
about family.

There's a moment where you
and Jada are talking after...

-Mm-hmm.
-...and Jada goes,

"I saw you gathering yourself."
-Mm-hmm.

-"And then there's a moment
where you looked up

and I knew you were ready."
-Mm-hmm.

-And then you do the replay
and you, like, sitting there

and whatever the fuck you saying
to yourself, you're saying.

But then it's like
somebody pressed the button

and you said...
-[ Laughs ]

-...and whatever the fuck
that thing was,

I'll never forget it.
-Yeah.

-Jada was like, "That's when
I knew you was ready.

I knew you was ready."
You sat up.

Motherfucker, you wasn't
blinking. It's like...

-[ Laughs ]

-I remember.
I remember my word.

I said, "Oh, this nigga crazy."

Like, I was waiting
for you to go,

"Nah, fuck this. Pull me up.

Cut it off. Like, we...

Throw the dummy down."
-The dummy, yeah.

-You...
-Dude.

-...you did it,
but that jump,

I can only imagine,
meant so much more.

That was -- It was bigger
than the bungee jump

just for the moment.
Like, that's a real jump.

That's a life jump.

-That moment is the key to life.

If you can understand.

Take a deep breath.
-Mm-hmm.

-Stick your arms out,
and surrender to life.

If you can understand that,
right,

nobody's in control.

It's an illusion
that you're in control.

-Mm-hmm.
-Life got you. Right?

-But you don't know that
till you get got.

-You don't know, right. Yeah.
-You got to get got.

-You got to get got, like --
-My accident was me getting got.

-Yeah, yeah.
-Life got me. God got me.

God said, "Hey, come here."
-Come here, yep.

-"Let me show you something."
-Yeah.

-"Let me show you something,
little boy. You..."

-Mm-hmm. Oh, you think --
-"You think you..."

[ Laughs ] "Come here.
Let me show you something."

-Hey, little boy, watch what I'm
gonna do with this car.

Watch this. Watch this. Bang!
[ Laughs ]

-And it's not -- It's not till
you get that...

-Yep. Absolutely.
-...and then you get

in that room...
-Yep.

-...and you look in the room
and you look around at people

you're like, "Oh, shit.

Oh, fuck. Ain't no cameras here.
Ain't nobody.

Where are my fans at?"
-Yeah.

-"Where the whole star-- Where
the idea of stardom at?

Where's the --
Where's the glitz, the glamour,

the -- where's the thing at?
Where the Ferraris?"

-Yeah.
-"Where's the watches?"

You have to get got,
to your point.

-Absolutely.
-So when you're talking about

surrendering respectfully...
-Yeah.

-...and listening to what
you're saying, you know that...

-Yeah.
-...because things happen to you

that forced you to surrender.
-Absolutely.

-And then after doing it,
you saw the benefit.

-Yeah. I describe it
as ecstatic surrender.

-Okay.
-When you let go and it's like,

you know, you either trust God
or you don't.

-Mm-hmm.
-There's no middle.

-Mm-hmm.
-You're gonna tear yourself

apart in the middle.
-Mm-hmm.

-Right?
And, you know, for me,

that process of coming
to that place of humility

and surrender is...

You can't -- You can't teach it.

-Mm-hmm.
-You can't teach it.

It's like you have
to lean into life,

and you have to be
torched by reality and...

the thing about being torched
by life is that

only to fake things burn.
-Mm.

-Nothing true burns.
-Mm. Mm.

-Only your fantasies burn,
right?

When you get torched by life,

the false things that you're
holding on to about yourself,

the false things that you're
holding on to about reality

are the only things
that can get touched.

-Mm.
-And if you can stand the loss

of everything that's fake,
everything that's fantasy,

everything that's delusional,
if you can stand that,

you know,
there's a trauma to it,

but if you can stand that,
there's a --

there's an emotionally
invincible you

under your fakeness.
-Mm-hmm.

-Right?
-See, I love -- I love

what you're saying
for two reasons, right?

You're Superman.

Here's what I mean
by you're Superman.

You are the prince...
-Mm-hmm.

-...to this Hollywood
entertainment thing.

But when you see
your prince be vulnerable,

well, it's so dope because
you're bringing humility

to the job
that people watch and respect

but forget.
-Mm-hmm.

-We forget...
-Yeah.

-...that there's a human side...
-Yeah.

-...to the thing that we watch
from afar for so long,

'cause you're a superhero.
-Mm-hmm.

-Will Smith, nah,
you better not fucking cry.

You Will Smith.
-Right.

-We forget that.
-Yeah.

-So when we're talking like
we're talking now,

I'm so blown away
because I'm like,

people are so afraid
to be fucking human.

-Yeah.
-You're so afraid

to actually be human
'cause we get caught up

in the box of this thing
we built...

-Absolutely.
-...and the perfected idea

of what we are and where we are,
who we are,

it cannot be touched.
I don't want them to touch it.

You get lost in that.
-Yeah.

-And the idea of human
becomes third, not even second.

You made a decision
to put the human first.

And by the way, it's visible.

Like, it's visible.
-Yeah.

-I'm gonna tell you
who else did it.

I'm gonna tell you
who else fucking did it.

Kobe after retiring?
-Yep.

-After retiring...
-Yep. Absolutely.

-...Kobe made a decision.
-Yep.

-In talking to Kobe --

I remember talking to Kobe,
and there was a moment

Kobe was like, "Kev, I'm the
happiest I ever been."

-Yeah.
-And I said -- I said,

"Why? You ain't playing ball."

He said, "Man,
I'm in tune with my kids."

-Yeah.
-"I'm coaching my daughter's

basketball team and
I'm into venture, investing.

I found a new..."

He found a new thing
that allowed him to, like,

have a different level
of energy and not the same...

'Cause he was this thing
for so fucking long.

It's like he released and let
that monkey off his back.

-When you -- dude.
-He let the monkey off his back.

-Listen. It's like --

-That's what I hear
in what you're saying.

-Yeah, and it's like...

I haven't learned how to say
this yet, but I'm glad --

I'm glad you're talking
about it in that way.

Right?
It's like the...

[ Exhales ]

Let it go.
-Yeah, I think I just said it.

I think it's monkey
off your back.

-Monkey off your back, yeah.
-I think I just said it.

I think I just said it.
-You said it.

-Yeah, I think I was just --
It was simple the way I said it.

-Yeah, it's not --
It wasn't great.

It wasn't -- It wasn't great,
Kev. The monkey --

-Monkey off your back.
-Because that's --

It has alcoholic connotations
with the monkey.

Like, it's just --
-I was just thinking of, like,

a strong-ass monkey
on your back.

I didn't think about it.
-Yeah.

-But you get what I'm saying?
You understand what I'm saying?

-I do understand
what you're saying, Kev.

It's just not a perfect analogy.
-Okay, well, let's go with --

-We're talking about my
feelings. At some point --

-Let's go with the exhale.
-Okay. I mean, it's your show.

It's your show.
-[ Exhales ]

I'll go with the exhale.

-I -- Now I'm offended
and I'm tight.

-Okay, well, I don't want you
to get tight.

I want to get back to the exhale

'cause we're in
such a great place, right?

I'm gonna tell you what.
Don't do that. Don't.

Okay, don't -- You're right.
Okay.

I want to apologize
for not going with Will's --

You know what,
this is the part --

-Are you apologizing --
apologize into camera

so the world
knows that you're sorry.

-I want to say sorry
for not allowing Will's side

of thinking to be heard.

And I assumed that my side
was the right side.

-Yes.
-Monkey on your back

is not fitting for everyone.
-Yes.

-Some people don't like monkeys.
-Right.

-And...
-And sometime the monkey's

on your front. It's like --
-You're right.

You're absolutely right.

-And sometimes it's not
a monkey.

-It's not -- You're right, Will.

How about we don't use
an animal at all?

How about I just say --
-Cause now you're --

you know, if you're against
animals, then...

-I'm not against animals.
-...you're against nature.

-Will, I don't want
to go down --

-And it doesn't fit
into what I'm saying.

-I don't want to go
down a rabbit hole here, Will.

I think you're right.
-A rabbit hole?

So everything's
about animals with you.

-All right.
-You better --

I bet that sweater is fucking
polar bear, isn't it?

-Maybe I got a fucking problem.
[ Both laugh ]

No, I love -- I love --

I love what you're saying,
and I want to say --

-It's the surrender of

the need to be perceived

a certain way.

-Can I tell you what's dope?
-Mm-hmm.

-And how is this
gonna come full circle?

Doing "Hart to Heart,"

there has to be an idea
of surrendering

and just coming to sit down
and talk to me.

-Yeah.
-There is no prep.

-Mm-hmm.
-There is no call before.

-Yeah.
-There is no, "What are we

talking about?"
-Right.

-That's not what this is about.
And what you're doing, Will,

I just want to applaud you

and I want to fucking say,
"Oh, keep going."

Like, you -- the decision that
you made to open up,

the decision that you made
to really talk about, like,

your trauma,
like, what's going on,

you have fucking made it okay
for the people

that looked at Superman to go,
"If Superman can do it,

I can, too.
Hey, man, let me tell you all

what's been fucking
with me for years."

You are somebody
that I not only look up to,

I admire, I respect,

more importantly, man,
I model my fucking career after.

Like, your work ethic,
your desire to be great

and to not take no...

Will, I model my shit after you.

If you did stand-up comedy,

I promise you we would be
aligned to the tee.

Everything that I have
done in movies,

every road that I went down

is because of the model
that you built.

-Love that.
-You've now created another

model and another blueprint.

At the end of the day,
you're fucking human, man.

And I love and appreciate you
for being that

and that only.
-Love that.

-Nothing else needs to be said.
-Mm-hmm.

-I appreciate you for coming
on this fucking platform

and just being you, dude.
-Yeah.

-Being fucking you, Will Smith.
-It was great.

And then you, like,
you went off the rails.

-Well, I'm not done.
I want you to call that trainer.

And I want, because --

-You don't, Kev.
You don't want that.

-I'm not gonna ever
see him again.

But I want to tell him
I'm not a bitch.

-Okay.
-And I want to say, fuck him.

-I'll text him. I'll text him.
-No, you tell him what I said.

-Okay. I'll tell --
I'll text him that you said

you're not a bitch.
-Yeah, And I don't have to

lift that weight
if I don't want to.

-Ah, it -- it's a text.
I'll just keep it short.

-Just text it.
But you get what I'm saying.

-I know what you're saying,
yeah.

I'll make sure
it has your energy.

-This show, it was exactly
what I wanted it to be.

Thank you for doing it.

Through Philadelphia stand up,

I think I got to end it
in asking a question

that the world wants to know.

When are we gonna
figure out what we're doing?

-I know. Listen...

-When are we gonna figure out
what we're doing?

-Well, you know,
I want to end on a good note,

you know, but...
-So just tell them.

-And I know
you're not supposed to --

-That's your camera. Just...
-You're not supposed to

follow up a question
with a question.

-Yeah.
-I would just say,

how many movies
have you made with The Rock?

-Here we go again.
-I'm just asking. Just --

You just say the number.

You don't have
to put commentary.

Just say the number.
How many?

-I don't know...
-I mean...

How many movies have you made
with The Rock?

-We've done -- I think it would
be if you count them...

[ Mumbles ]

[ Laughter ]
-I didn't hear you.

-You just heard what I said.
-You said...

-If you're counting it --
if you want me to count,

I'm telling you right now,
I think me and Rock,

we've definitely --

I think we've done, like...

[ Mumbles ]

-All right.
-Yeah. So...

-Okay.
The answer's in your question.

-All right.
Well, this is "Hart to Heart,"

and this is Will Smith,
my brother.

Philadelphia, stand up, man,
to the world out there.

An amazing conversation
full of amazing gems.

Made my heart happy today.
Made my heart happy.

That's it, guys. Will Smith.
One time, everybody.

-Kevin Hart,
ladies and gentlemen.

Kevin Hart.
[ Applause ]

Oh, man.

-I challenged...

-That was spectacular.

-Challenged you.

[ Indistinct conversation ]

**

-Yo.

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