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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,520 - Australia's best days are ahead of us. - We live in the best country in the world. 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:06,761 - No asterisks, no footnotes. - From road to rail... 3 00:00:06,772 --> 00:00:09,810 - We are in the age of infrastructure. - The dawn of a new era. 4 00:00:09,821 --> 00:00:12,864 - The great Australian dream. - To build a better future. 5 00:00:12,875 --> 00:00:15,099 We're spending more than any government has ever spent. 6 00:00:15,110 --> 00:00:17,525 - Money splashed around. - Splashed more cash. 7 00:00:17,536 --> 00:00:19,518 - The cash splash. - It's big money in anyone's language. 8 00:00:19,529 --> 00:00:21,584 - This is a nation-building... - Funds from the nation-building... 9 00:00:21,595 --> 00:00:23,195 - ... nation-building... - ... nation-building... 10 00:00:23,206 --> 00:00:24,326 Nation-building. 11 00:00:25,641 --> 00:00:26,994 Uh, not... not what I meant. 12 00:00:27,005 --> 00:00:30,189 But surely it's what defines any decent organisation, 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,917 pursuing a set of standards that puts impact and global stewardship 14 00:00:34,928 --> 00:00:38,468 ahead of any relentless pursuit of profits or power. 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,079 - (APPLAUSE) - Mmm. Yep. Yeah. 16 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:43,279 But, Bettina, I'm largely in agreement. 17 00:00:43,279 --> 00:00:45,879 But from my perspective as head of a government organisation, 18 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:49,759 these sort of ESG compliance measures are somewhat less relevant. 19 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:51,743 Well, from my perspective, you're wrong. 20 00:00:51,754 --> 00:00:53,384 - Well... - (APPLAUSE) 21 00:00:53,395 --> 00:00:54,501 Okay, but... 22 00:00:54,595 --> 00:00:56,115 Sorry, can I... 23 00:00:56,418 --> 00:00:58,538 Sorry. I just want to respond to that. 24 00:00:58,549 --> 00:01:00,829 - What do we want? - No wind farm! 25 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,751 - When do we want it? - Now! 26 00:01:02,762 --> 00:01:04,999 - What do we want? - No wind farm! 27 00:01:04,999 --> 00:01:07,548 - When do we want it? - Now! 28 00:01:08,131 --> 00:01:09,626 ... I'll keep. 29 00:01:09,637 --> 00:01:10,644 That one's for Nat. 30 00:01:10,655 --> 00:01:12,828 - Oh. Morning, Tony. - Hiya, Courtney. 31 00:01:12,839 --> 00:01:14,239 Do we know what's going on outside? 32 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:15,799 - Protesters. - Yeah, I can hear that. 33 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:17,959 - Just arrived this morning. - Is this about me last night? 34 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,322 - I think it's about windmills. - Oh. Do we know what they want? 35 00:01:20,333 --> 00:01:22,333 Not sure, but they want it now. 36 00:01:22,344 --> 00:01:24,184 - Brian's onto it. - You were ambushed. 37 00:01:24,278 --> 00:01:25,802 TONY: I don't want to rake over it, Scotty. 38 00:01:25,813 --> 00:01:27,346 SCOTT: I mean, of course the people are gonna side with her. 39 00:01:27,357 --> 00:01:29,834 - And turn on you. - I don't think anyone TURNED on me. 40 00:01:29,845 --> 00:01:31,525 You don't see the viewer comments on the screen. 41 00:01:31,536 --> 00:01:33,976 It's also the way they edit, to make YOU look like the bad guy. 42 00:01:33,987 --> 00:01:35,947 - TONY: It's shot live. - Is it? 43 00:01:36,005 --> 00:01:38,268 - (WHISTLES) - I think you did really well, Tony. 44 00:01:38,279 --> 00:01:40,359 - Lots of applause. - Yeah, but not for me. 45 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:42,798 - But still, applause. - Yep. That's the way it works. 46 00:01:42,809 --> 00:01:44,512 Anything for me? Thank you. 47 00:01:44,745 --> 00:01:46,242 - You got a moment? - NAT: Sure. 48 00:01:46,253 --> 00:01:48,355 - Who's that mob out the front? - Brian's onto it. 49 00:01:48,366 --> 00:01:50,181 - They're not here for Tony? - We don't think so. 50 00:01:50,192 --> 00:01:51,921 Alright. I just wanted to give you a heads-up. 51 00:01:51,932 --> 00:01:54,288 Turns out we might be having another crack at the Snowy. 52 00:01:54,299 --> 00:01:56,335 - You mean like a sequel? - What? 53 00:01:56,346 --> 00:01:58,706 - Are you talking about the movie? - NAT: The Snowy River Hydro Scheme? 54 00:01:58,717 --> 00:02:01,117 - Yes. We're thinking of selling it. - Oh, okay. 55 00:02:01,128 --> 00:02:03,627 - Any reasons? - I can give you about 10 billion. 56 00:02:03,638 --> 00:02:05,381 - Sure. - But there's a fly in the ointment. 57 00:02:05,392 --> 00:02:08,048 Before we can even get started, we need to work out who owns the thing. 58 00:02:08,059 --> 00:02:10,468 - The government does. - Not the power stations. The name. 59 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:12,925 - The "Snowy River Hydro Scheme". - What, like, the trademark? 60 00:02:12,936 --> 00:02:14,016 JIM: Yeah. Everything. 61 00:02:14,027 --> 00:02:17,377 Brand, IP, copyright. Legal tell us we need clear title. 62 00:02:17,388 --> 00:02:19,148 We've tried selling the Snowy before, right? 63 00:02:19,159 --> 00:02:20,160 JIM: Mmm. A bunch of times. 64 00:02:20,171 --> 00:02:21,891 So they would have looked into ownership then. 65 00:02:21,902 --> 00:02:23,382 - Can I leave it with you? - (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 66 00:02:23,399 --> 00:02:27,159 - Are you sure they're not here for him? - (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 67 00:02:27,159 --> 00:02:29,238 I'm only getting every second word. 68 00:02:29,249 --> 00:02:31,224 I think it's "What do we want?" 69 00:02:31,235 --> 00:02:33,001 Someone who knows how to use a megaphone? 70 00:02:33,012 --> 00:02:34,692 Can you read the sign down there? 71 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:37,229 "No wind farm." 72 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,920 Have we announced a new wind farm? 73 00:02:39,119 --> 00:02:41,274 I could check our project delivery schedule. 74 00:02:41,285 --> 00:02:43,005 Or we could just go and ask one of them. 75 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:44,122 Okay. 76 00:02:44,133 --> 00:02:46,508 - Not a great night for YOU. - Oh, I wasn't meant to do it. 77 00:02:46,519 --> 00:02:48,959 The Minister pulled out at the last minute. Some sort of emergency. 78 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:50,533 Well, it turns out he got home early. 79 00:02:50,544 --> 00:02:51,864 He must have left at half-time. 80 00:02:51,875 --> 00:02:53,108 And he did see a bit. 81 00:02:53,119 --> 00:02:55,368 - What emergency has a half-time? - Now, he's not blaming you. 82 00:02:55,379 --> 00:02:57,128 - But Bettina did get him thinking. - Who? 83 00:02:57,139 --> 00:02:59,379 The woman who got all the applause with the ESP thing. 84 00:02:59,390 --> 00:03:00,950 Extrasensory perception? 85 00:03:01,119 --> 00:03:02,315 - What am I thinking of? - ESG? 86 00:03:02,326 --> 00:03:04,781 That's the one. And he wants to know, are we falling behind? 87 00:03:04,792 --> 00:03:06,508 - In what sense? - Well, in general. 88 00:03:06,519 --> 00:03:09,599 You know, with the environment and the... what's the S? 89 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:11,199 - Social. - Social and, um... 90 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:13,412 - Governance. - Is it something we should be looking into? 91 00:03:13,423 --> 00:03:14,608 - No. - I think he's keen. 92 00:03:14,619 --> 00:03:16,744 I'm not. Besides, we're a little busy right now, Jim. 93 00:03:16,755 --> 00:03:20,131 - What are you doing? - National Highway Duplication Program. 94 00:03:20,152 --> 00:03:22,087 - Uh... - Our major project. 95 00:03:22,098 --> 00:03:23,776 Urgent assessment for the Estimates Committee. 96 00:03:23,787 --> 00:03:25,388 - Oh! - Yeah. 97 00:03:25,399 --> 00:03:27,199 Yeah. I think it's a question of priorities. 98 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:28,933 - Yep. I agree. - Can I leave it with you? 99 00:03:28,944 --> 00:03:30,459 - Yep. - We can't afford to fall behind. 100 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:32,429 - No, we can't. - Hey. And last night? 101 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,880 - Mm-hm? - Tough crowd. 102 00:03:33,891 --> 00:03:35,091 Thanks. 103 00:03:38,512 --> 00:03:40,192 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 104 00:03:42,326 --> 00:03:44,152 How's it looking? Interesting. 105 00:03:44,163 --> 00:03:46,526 - This trademark thing could be a bit tricky. - NAT: Really? 106 00:03:46,526 --> 00:03:48,140 There's a bunch of people using the phrase... 107 00:03:48,151 --> 00:03:50,437 Snowy River Caravans, Snowy Mountain Spring Water, 108 00:03:50,448 --> 00:03:51,928 the Snowy Classic bike ride. 109 00:03:51,939 --> 00:03:53,779 That's a bit of a stretch. Well, then there's that poem. 110 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:55,618 - What poem? - Banjo Paterson. 111 00:03:55,629 --> 00:03:58,292 - The Man from Snowy Hydro? - Legal says it's a risk. 112 00:03:58,303 --> 00:04:00,663 What about the exact words "Snowy Hydro"? 113 00:04:00,674 --> 00:04:02,499 There's the Snowy Hydro Discovery Centre. 114 00:04:02,510 --> 00:04:03,762 I think that's owned by the government. 115 00:04:03,773 --> 00:04:06,066 Alright. What about "Snowy Hydro cost blowout"? 116 00:04:06,077 --> 00:04:07,505 - What? - Sorry. That's a news story. 117 00:04:07,516 --> 00:04:09,447 NAT: Maybe Jim's right. We should go back through some 118 00:04:09,457 --> 00:04:12,135 - of the old privatisation attempts. - "Snowy Hydro bungle". 119 00:04:12,146 --> 00:04:13,392 Sorry. Another news story. 120 00:04:13,403 --> 00:04:14,592 - Onto it. - Great. 121 00:04:14,812 --> 00:04:15,989 - TONY: Scotty? - SCOTT: Yep. I'm coming. 122 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,127 - Okay. - BRIAN: Ah, Tony. 123 00:04:18,137 --> 00:04:20,558 - What's with the vest? - (SIGHS) Wanted to give you a sitrep. 124 00:04:20,569 --> 00:04:24,030 - A what? - We estimate the crowd at or around 10 persons. 125 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:27,258 - Not really a crowd. - Age range, 55 to 80. 126 00:04:27,265 --> 00:04:28,265 So retirees. 127 00:04:28,265 --> 00:04:30,113 - I'm thinking bollards. - What for? 128 00:04:30,124 --> 00:04:31,644 In case they try ramming the entrance. 129 00:04:31,655 --> 00:04:34,146 - With what? A mobility scooter? - Can't be too careful. 130 00:04:34,157 --> 00:04:35,852 - Is that pepper spray? - Mm-hm. 131 00:04:35,863 --> 00:04:37,688 Just in case the situation escalates. 132 00:04:37,699 --> 00:04:39,545 Honestly, Brian, I don't want to fight with them. 133 00:04:39,545 --> 00:04:41,649 - Commence negotiations. - It's not a siege. 134 00:04:41,660 --> 00:04:43,540 - I'm saying talk to them. - Copy that. 135 00:04:43,551 --> 00:04:45,532 - (RADIO CRACKLES) - Leaving sector one now. 136 00:04:46,451 --> 00:04:48,234 - SCOTT: Yes. - TONY: Okay. 137 00:04:48,245 --> 00:04:50,565 - SCOTT: Up. - TONY: No, down low. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 138 00:04:51,018 --> 00:04:54,414 Is that for all of the systems, their parameters? 139 00:04:54,425 --> 00:04:55,985 - (RADIO CRACKLES) - Okay. 140 00:04:55,985 --> 00:04:56,985 Yep. 141 00:04:57,547 --> 00:04:59,225 Oh. Well, that is great news. 142 00:04:59,225 --> 00:05:00,825 Yeah. Not now, Rhonda. No. 143 00:05:00,973 --> 00:05:03,705 Well, if we get the state submissions back end of next week 144 00:05:03,705 --> 00:05:06,105 and they agree to the formula, with the odd caveat, 145 00:05:06,105 --> 00:05:07,945 then I reckon we're back on track. 146 00:05:07,945 --> 00:05:10,332 Sorry, mate. I'm just gonna have to call you back. 147 00:05:10,343 --> 00:05:12,622 Sorry, team. Can I just grab a minute off you? 148 00:05:12,633 --> 00:05:13,949 We'll need longer than that. 149 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,705 - TONY: Grab yourselves a coffee. - Make it lunch. 150 00:05:15,705 --> 00:05:17,428 - Go on. - Oh. And... and... and a coffee? 151 00:05:17,439 --> 00:05:18,966 - TONY: Yeah. - Yeah. 152 00:05:18,977 --> 00:05:20,945 Well, what's our plan? 153 00:05:21,204 --> 00:05:22,207 - What plan? - Oh. 154 00:05:22,218 --> 00:05:24,865 I thought Jim spoke to you about this whole ECG debacle. 155 00:05:24,865 --> 00:05:26,856 - Electrocardiogram? - Oh, you know what I'm talking about. 156 00:05:26,867 --> 00:05:28,312 - ESG? - Thank you. 157 00:05:28,323 --> 00:05:30,173 Honestly, Rhonda, what's the sudden urgency? 158 00:05:30,184 --> 00:05:31,785 Oh. Allow me to show you. 159 00:05:31,785 --> 00:05:34,065 - Polling data? - Oh. The message is clear. 160 00:05:34,065 --> 00:05:36,785 - Is this where it's coming from? - It's coming from everywhere. 161 00:05:36,785 --> 00:05:39,619 Voters 18 to 35. What's the E for? 162 00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:40,737 - Environment. - Yep. 163 00:05:40,748 --> 00:05:43,252 "Should the government take climate change and sustainability 164 00:05:43,263 --> 00:05:46,091 into account when formulating policy?" 87%. 165 00:05:46,101 --> 00:05:47,745 - Yeah. Agreed. - And the S? 166 00:05:47,745 --> 00:05:48,825 - Social. - Yep. 167 00:05:48,825 --> 00:05:51,178 "Should diversity, inclusion and wider social issues 168 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:52,949 be a factor in policy formation?" 169 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,152 93%. 170 00:05:54,163 --> 00:05:55,821 - No argument from me. - And the...? 171 00:05:55,832 --> 00:05:58,116 - Governance. - Same story. Honestly. 172 00:05:58,127 --> 00:06:00,148 It's like you're hearing this for the first time. 173 00:06:00,159 --> 00:06:01,454 No wonder we've fallen behind. 174 00:06:01,465 --> 00:06:03,665 Rhonda, this is what I tried to explain last night. 175 00:06:03,665 --> 00:06:04,945 And wasn't that a car crash? 176 00:06:04,945 --> 00:06:07,513 ESG is not actually designed for government. 177 00:06:07,524 --> 00:06:08,795 - Hear that? (SILENCE) - What? 178 00:06:08,806 --> 00:06:10,699 No-one's applauding. 179 00:06:10,785 --> 00:06:11,985 We've got our own set of guidelines. 180 00:06:11,985 --> 00:06:13,738 We've got an entire regulatory framework. 181 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:16,264 And there goes our 18-to-35-year-olds. 182 00:06:16,275 --> 00:06:17,665 We need to fix this. 183 00:06:17,665 --> 00:06:19,225 We're falling behind. 184 00:06:20,218 --> 00:06:21,218 (SIGHS) 185 00:06:21,229 --> 00:06:24,193 So, last time the government attempted privatisation of the Snowy 186 00:06:24,204 --> 00:06:25,550 was in 2006. 187 00:06:25,561 --> 00:06:27,001 I've chased the audit committee's report. 188 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:29,332 - And what does it say? - "File no longer retrievable." 189 00:06:29,343 --> 00:06:30,843 I guess it's nearly 20 years ago. 190 00:06:30,854 --> 00:06:32,977 And our archive storage system got updated. 191 00:06:32,988 --> 00:06:34,745 There must still be something on the database. 192 00:06:34,745 --> 00:06:36,745 "Snowy privatisation". 193 00:06:36,745 --> 00:06:38,651 No, our database only goes back five years. 194 00:06:38,662 --> 00:06:40,945 - That's when we moved to the cloud. - I knew that was a mistake. 195 00:06:40,945 --> 00:06:42,850 Not really. Much better search function. 196 00:06:42,861 --> 00:06:44,621 For documents that are less than five years old. 197 00:06:44,632 --> 00:06:46,872 Yeah. It's really good for them. 198 00:06:47,038 --> 00:06:48,478 I'll keep looking. 199 00:06:49,045 --> 00:06:50,485 - (PROTESTERS SHOUT) - KATIE: Tony? 200 00:06:50,496 --> 00:06:52,722 - Good news on the protesters. - They're packing up? 201 00:06:52,733 --> 00:06:54,985 No, but Courtney managed to fix their megaphone. 202 00:06:54,985 --> 00:06:57,221 - It was the batteries. - TONY: I thought it was a bit clearer. 203 00:06:57,232 --> 00:06:59,825 - What's Brian doing down there? - KATIE: Looking for Neo-Nazis. 204 00:06:59,825 --> 00:07:02,185 - What? - He thought he saw a hate symbol. 205 00:07:02,185 --> 00:07:04,865 - TONY: Really? - I suspect it was just a badly drawn windmill. 206 00:07:04,865 --> 00:07:07,344 Oh, yeah. I think you might be right. 207 00:07:07,355 --> 00:07:08,757 - Hey, Jim. - Good news. 208 00:07:08,768 --> 00:07:10,328 Just came from a ministerial briefing, 209 00:07:10,339 --> 00:07:12,146 and the big fella likes what he's hearing. 210 00:07:12,157 --> 00:07:13,789 - Oh, wow. - He's right behind it. 211 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,119 - The whole NHDP? - I think it was ES-something. 212 00:07:16,130 --> 00:07:18,997 - National Highway Duplication Program? - Oh, damn! 213 00:07:19,008 --> 00:07:20,408 I was supposed to mention that, wasn't I? 214 00:07:20,419 --> 00:07:22,414 Jim, the Expenditure Review Committee meet next week. 215 00:07:22,425 --> 00:07:24,766 - I'll shoot him a text. - Oh, for God's sakes! 216 00:07:24,777 --> 00:07:27,345 It's swings and roundabouts! We got the go-ahead on ESG. 217 00:07:27,345 --> 00:07:29,505 Jim, can I explain to you exactly what ESG is? 218 00:07:29,505 --> 00:07:31,766 Oh, that'd be great, 'cause Rhonda was a bit vague. 219 00:07:31,777 --> 00:07:32,985 - Yep. - Can I get this for the Minister? 220 00:07:32,985 --> 00:07:34,980 He was a little hazy on it too. 221 00:07:34,991 --> 00:07:37,376 Hey, Siri, dictate this. 222 00:07:37,387 --> 00:07:40,025 ESG is basically an exercise to assess your level 223 00:07:40,025 --> 00:07:42,825 of gender diversity, inclusivity, sustainability. 224 00:07:42,825 --> 00:07:44,347 - (WHISPERS) Oh, he's gonna love this. - Yep. 225 00:07:44,358 --> 00:07:46,950 It's a comprehensive, time-consuming audit 226 00:07:46,961 --> 00:07:48,361 in order to rank your level of compliance. 227 00:07:48,372 --> 00:07:49,468 (WHISPERS) Oh, this is great. 228 00:07:49,479 --> 00:07:50,679 But even for corporations, 229 00:07:50,690 --> 00:07:54,168 it's often a virtue-signalling public relations boondoggle. 230 00:07:54,179 --> 00:07:56,777 - For us, a complete waste of time. - Siri, stop. 231 00:07:56,788 --> 00:07:58,825 Worse, it's gonna distract us from our real work. 232 00:07:58,825 --> 00:08:01,025 - Just remind me. - Highway Duplication. 233 00:08:01,025 --> 00:08:02,505 - Oh, yeah. I'm gonna send... - Text. 234 00:08:02,505 --> 00:08:04,226 Text. Yeah, yeah. You know what? 235 00:08:04,237 --> 00:08:06,285 - I'm just gonna play him the first part. - Sure. 236 00:08:06,296 --> 00:08:07,296 Ta-da! 237 00:08:07,802 --> 00:08:10,025 - What's that? - I found my old laptop. 238 00:08:10,025 --> 00:08:11,425 I'm pretty sure it should still have 239 00:08:11,425 --> 00:08:13,305 the archive stuff we're searching for on the hard drive. 240 00:08:13,305 --> 00:08:15,163 - Great! - I'm just looking for a charger. 241 00:08:15,174 --> 00:08:17,745 - Oh. - Nah, that's USB-C. 242 00:08:17,745 --> 00:08:19,025 You wouldn't happen to have a MagSafe? 243 00:08:19,025 --> 00:08:21,625 - I don't even know what that is. - I still have one at home. 244 00:08:21,625 --> 00:08:22,873 Oh, great. Go get it. 245 00:08:22,884 --> 00:08:24,509 - Oh, no! - What? 246 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,268 My e-bike hasn't recharged. 247 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:28,534 - Well, just use the pedals. - Oh, yeah. 248 00:08:28,545 --> 00:08:29,785 Be right back. 249 00:08:31,481 --> 00:08:33,225 - Are you leaving the premises? - Yep. 250 00:08:33,225 --> 00:08:34,411 I'll escort you out. 251 00:08:34,422 --> 00:08:35,862 Safe passage. 252 00:08:35,873 --> 00:08:37,433 - (RADIO CRACKLES) - Leaving sector three now. 253 00:08:37,444 --> 00:08:38,604 Okay. 254 00:08:41,984 --> 00:08:43,574 I think Jim will back me up on this. 255 00:08:43,585 --> 00:08:45,753 If we sign off on it our end then get 256 00:08:45,764 --> 00:08:47,440 it to Canberra end of the month... 257 00:08:47,451 --> 00:08:48,854 And the supporting documentation? 258 00:08:48,865 --> 00:08:52,585 Uh, yep. All lodged with the cabinet secretary's office for the ERC. 259 00:08:52,585 --> 00:08:55,255 Then cabinet then budget. Yeah, Jim? 260 00:08:55,739 --> 00:08:58,659 Uh, hang on, Tony. Did you get a text from Rhonda? 261 00:08:58,670 --> 00:09:01,747 Uh, yeah. Yep. Got a few. We can come back to that. 262 00:09:01,758 --> 00:09:04,364 - Is Tony there? - Uh, yes. Yes, he is. 263 00:09:04,375 --> 00:09:06,067 - RHONDA: What's your problem? - What? 264 00:09:06,078 --> 00:09:08,300 Monique is waiting for you right now. 265 00:09:08,311 --> 00:09:09,967 Who's Monique, and why is she waiting for me? 266 00:09:09,978 --> 00:09:11,070 The EPL, Tony. 267 00:09:11,081 --> 00:09:13,334 We're falling behind, and she's here to help. Quick sticks! 268 00:09:13,345 --> 00:09:15,185 No, no, no. We... we can come back to that any time. 269 00:09:15,185 --> 00:09:18,127 We finish this now. Too important to postpone. 270 00:09:18,138 --> 00:09:19,380 Hello? 271 00:09:19,425 --> 00:09:20,956 I think Rhonda muted you, Tony. 272 00:09:20,967 --> 00:09:22,070 God, she shits me. 273 00:09:22,081 --> 00:09:23,561 RHONDA: I heard that. 274 00:09:23,572 --> 00:09:25,092 Hurry up. 275 00:09:26,323 --> 00:09:27,367 What the hell? 276 00:09:27,378 --> 00:09:29,305 - I'm okay. - You only live a few blocks away. 277 00:09:29,305 --> 00:09:30,502 It was a pretty steep hill. 278 00:09:30,513 --> 00:09:33,439 One of the protesters helped him into the lift. 279 00:09:33,450 --> 00:09:35,434 - NAT: How'd you go, with the charger? - Found it. 280 00:09:35,445 --> 00:09:37,269 - NAT: Great. - And even better news. 281 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,297 - NAT: Yeah? - I found a bunch of photos I thought I'd lost. 282 00:09:39,308 --> 00:09:40,390 NAT: Oh! Please. 283 00:09:40,401 --> 00:09:42,934 - That is not safe for work. - That's my new screensaver. 284 00:09:42,945 --> 00:09:43,952 NAT: What about the Snowy? 285 00:09:43,963 --> 00:09:45,614 Couldn't find any reference to the ownership 286 00:09:45,625 --> 00:09:48,694 of the phrase "Snowy River Hydro Scheme" in the '06 proceeding, 287 00:09:48,705 --> 00:09:50,225 but the footnotes refer to a previous attempt 288 00:09:50,225 --> 00:09:52,512 at privatisation in 1993. 289 00:09:52,523 --> 00:09:55,163 - And? - My laptop only goes back to 2004. 290 00:09:55,312 --> 00:09:58,054 Hang on. Can't we just ring the person who chaired the 2006 report? 291 00:09:58,065 --> 00:10:00,345 I did. He's got the file index on his BlackBerry. 292 00:10:00,345 --> 00:10:01,345 NAT: And? 293 00:10:01,345 --> 00:10:03,252 He's searching for a charger. 294 00:10:03,263 --> 00:10:05,063 Can you close that, please? 295 00:10:08,105 --> 00:10:09,425 Mmm. 296 00:10:09,562 --> 00:10:11,639 - It's worse than I thought. - She hasn't said anything yet. 297 00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:12,650 She said "Mmm." 298 00:10:12,661 --> 00:10:15,374 Were you involved in the Sir Stanford Wessells statue thing as well? 299 00:10:15,385 --> 00:10:17,666 I work across a range of problematic departments. 300 00:10:17,677 --> 00:10:18,839 - Problematic? - Well! 301 00:10:18,850 --> 00:10:20,596 I think it's pretty obvious what's happened here. 302 00:10:20,607 --> 00:10:21,607 We've fallen behind. 303 00:10:21,618 --> 00:10:23,374 There's a clear lack of ESG framework. 304 00:10:23,385 --> 00:10:24,785 - Yeah, but I'm not sure that... - Look, Tony. 305 00:10:24,785 --> 00:10:26,465 - No-one is blaming you. - I am. 306 00:10:26,465 --> 00:10:28,598 Seriously, is anyone worrying about ESG? 307 00:10:28,609 --> 00:10:30,158 I think it's an issue that impacts us all. 308 00:10:30,169 --> 00:10:32,506 Especially 18-to-35-year-olds. 309 00:10:32,517 --> 00:10:34,437 MONIQUE: I've done a lot of work within this space, helping 310 00:10:34,448 --> 00:10:36,374 some of our more backward organisations 311 00:10:36,385 --> 00:10:38,297 - navigate the challenges. - Backward? 312 00:10:38,307 --> 00:10:40,348 - I understand. You're defensive. - No, I'm busy. 313 00:10:40,359 --> 00:10:42,894 So, what I'd like to start with is an ESG pulse check. 314 00:10:42,905 --> 00:10:44,905 Look at everything through an ESG lens. 315 00:10:44,905 --> 00:10:46,505 - Perfect. - Do you even know what that means? 316 00:10:46,505 --> 00:10:48,928 - I'm sure Monique does. - It's an office audit. 317 00:10:48,939 --> 00:10:50,909 To help us get a feel for where we're all at. 318 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,000 - And where are we at? - Falling behind? 319 00:10:53,011 --> 00:10:54,651 - Exactly. - (SCOTT SIGHS) 320 00:10:54,739 --> 00:10:57,247 Brian says we should have pretty much everything backed up on these. 321 00:10:57,258 --> 00:11:00,185 - Where is Brian? - Running background checks on the protesters. 322 00:11:00,322 --> 00:11:01,782 Oh. Here we go. 323 00:11:02,018 --> 00:11:04,665 Ah! This one's labelled "1990 to 1995". 324 00:11:04,676 --> 00:11:06,316 - You know what that means. - It'll have spiders. 325 00:11:06,327 --> 00:11:07,647 It'll have the files we're chasing. 326 00:11:07,658 --> 00:11:09,265 We just need to find a cable so we can connect it 327 00:11:09,265 --> 00:11:12,145 - to one of our laptops. - Mmm. There's a bunch here. 328 00:11:12,171 --> 00:11:13,171 This? 329 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:16,305 USB-C. Unless there's an adaptor. 330 00:11:16,434 --> 00:11:17,521 Mini-DVI? 331 00:11:17,532 --> 00:11:19,132 Nah, that's female-to-female. 332 00:11:19,245 --> 00:11:20,774 Can you please never use that phrase again? 333 00:11:20,785 --> 00:11:22,494 Do you have a USB-C to a Lightning? 334 00:11:22,505 --> 00:11:24,779 - I've got this. - Yes! 335 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:27,190 - It's the right one? - No, it's my old bike lock. 336 00:11:28,584 --> 00:11:29,584 I'll keep looking. 337 00:11:29,728 --> 00:11:32,148 WOMAN: You've heard of ESG, haven't you? 338 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:33,905 MAN: It's about getting that impact balance right. 339 00:11:33,905 --> 00:11:35,985 MAN 2: Understanding how the real world now functions. 340 00:11:35,985 --> 00:11:38,745 MAN 3: Environmental, social and corporate governance. 341 00:11:38,745 --> 00:11:40,785 WOMAN: How do you actually implement that sort of thing? 342 00:11:40,785 --> 00:11:42,050 - (PROTESTERS SHOUT) - (RADIO CRACKLES) 343 00:11:42,061 --> 00:11:44,563 - Level three secure. - Seriously, Brian, I'm fine. 344 00:11:44,574 --> 00:11:46,094 I don't even know who you're reporting to. 345 00:11:46,105 --> 00:11:49,031 - Copy that, Brian. - Just don't want to take any chances. 346 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:50,514 There seems to be even more of them today. 347 00:11:50,525 --> 00:11:51,725 - Want me to move them on? - No. 348 00:11:51,736 --> 00:11:53,874 - Baton charge? - No. They've got a legal right to protest. 349 00:11:53,885 --> 00:11:55,405 I think we should just find out what they want. 350 00:11:55,424 --> 00:11:58,064 - And then disperse them. - Just talk to them. 351 00:11:58,547 --> 00:11:59,947 - Morning, Tony. - Courtney. 352 00:11:59,958 --> 00:12:02,493 Quick question... when I talk to you about an office issue, 353 00:12:02,504 --> 00:12:05,424 is that an example of having my concerns heard and addressed? 354 00:12:05,435 --> 00:12:07,475 - What? - I'm just doing the ESG audit. 355 00:12:07,486 --> 00:12:09,382 - I'm up to S. - Uh, sure. Yeah. 356 00:12:09,393 --> 00:12:10,713 And can you think of a time 357 00:12:10,724 --> 00:12:13,665 when we've taken unethical advantage of our customers? 358 00:12:13,676 --> 00:12:16,094 - We don't have customers. - And/or stakeholders? 359 00:12:16,105 --> 00:12:17,111 Running a little late. 360 00:12:17,122 --> 00:12:18,657 - I'll tick 'rarely'. - Okay. 361 00:12:18,668 --> 00:12:20,788 - Where'd you get this? - Brian found it downstairs. 362 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:22,374 And you think it could have our files? 363 00:12:22,385 --> 00:12:24,054 Let's find out. Hit the power button. 364 00:12:24,065 --> 00:12:26,253 - (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS) - It's working! 365 00:12:26,264 --> 00:12:28,014 - Excellent. - Where'd you find a charger? 366 00:12:28,025 --> 00:12:29,625 We used a Thunderbolt-to-Lightning. 367 00:12:29,625 --> 00:12:31,406 - Very, very frightening. - What? 368 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:32,826 - (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS) - Success! 369 00:12:32,837 --> 00:12:34,479 Now we've got to stick this in somewhere. 370 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:35,690 Um... 371 00:12:36,098 --> 00:12:37,258 Oh. 372 00:12:37,811 --> 00:12:38,971 Super Mario. 373 00:12:38,982 --> 00:12:41,062 Might have been Tony's. 374 00:12:41,466 --> 00:12:43,025 Okay. 375 00:12:43,025 --> 00:12:44,225 (WHIRRING) 376 00:12:44,398 --> 00:12:46,705 - What's that noise? - It's booting up. 377 00:12:46,705 --> 00:12:48,392 - What's that? - Here we go. 378 00:12:48,403 --> 00:12:50,219 - (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS) - There we went. 379 00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:52,672 - I don't know what happened. - Can you try ejecting it? 380 00:12:53,538 --> 00:12:55,075 It's stuck. 381 00:12:55,697 --> 00:12:57,534 PROTESTERS: No wind farm! 382 00:12:57,545 --> 00:12:59,985 - No wind farm! - You know what? We can just email him. 383 00:12:59,985 --> 00:13:02,105 Oh, and, Tony, how would you quantify 384 00:13:02,105 --> 00:13:04,105 the ethical impact of our supply chains? 385 00:13:04,105 --> 00:13:05,705 - TONY: What? - For the office audit. 386 00:13:05,705 --> 00:13:07,985 - Oh, you're doing it too. - We don't want to fall behind. 387 00:13:07,985 --> 00:13:09,242 - We are now. - COURTNEY: Tony? 388 00:13:09,253 --> 00:13:11,933 Would it be okay if a few of the protesters used our bathroom? 389 00:13:11,944 --> 00:13:13,681 - TONY: What? - The public toilets are closed. 390 00:13:13,692 --> 00:13:16,374 Oh. Sure. Oh, and that's not how you spell 'turbine'. 391 00:13:16,385 --> 00:13:17,585 COURTNEY: Okay. I'll let them know. 392 00:13:17,585 --> 00:13:19,679 And has the Minister confirmed this Friday's meeting? 393 00:13:19,690 --> 00:13:21,013 Still waiting to hear. 394 00:13:21,024 --> 00:13:23,529 Do we regularly donate a percentage of our profits 395 00:13:23,540 --> 00:13:24,540 to the local community? 396 00:13:24,551 --> 00:13:26,814 - We don't make profits. - So we're losing money? 397 00:13:26,825 --> 00:13:29,414 No. We're a government organisation. We spend money. 398 00:13:29,425 --> 00:13:31,838 - On the local community? - Uh, sort of. 399 00:13:32,185 --> 00:13:34,225 - I'll tick "not applicable". - Yep. 400 00:13:38,871 --> 00:13:40,991 Okay. I think I've found how to do it. 401 00:13:41,002 --> 00:13:43,367 - The disc? - There's this kid on YouTube. 402 00:13:43,378 --> 00:13:45,101 - He knows everything. - Okay. 403 00:13:45,112 --> 00:13:49,426 Press control, command, option and shift... 404 00:13:49,437 --> 00:13:50,797 - Yep. - ... and escape. 405 00:13:50,808 --> 00:13:53,485 - I don't have enough fingers. - There you go. 406 00:13:53,496 --> 00:13:55,475 - Nothing's happening. - Right this way, folks. 407 00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:57,134 Keep your hands where I can see them. 408 00:13:57,145 --> 00:13:58,494 Oh, your CD drive's stuck. 409 00:13:58,505 --> 00:13:59,505 NAT: Uh, yeah. 410 00:13:59,516 --> 00:14:00,829 - Mind if I, uh...? - Sure. 411 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,760 - Can I grab that paperclip? - Um... 412 00:14:07,257 --> 00:14:08,517 - Oh! Oh! - (GASPS) Wow! 413 00:14:08,528 --> 00:14:10,240 - What?! - You're welcome. 414 00:14:10,251 --> 00:14:13,251 Sir. I'm gonna need you to leave that paperclip there. 415 00:14:19,936 --> 00:14:21,936 - Scotty. How's it going? - Uh... uh, yeah, yeah. 416 00:14:21,955 --> 00:14:23,075 - Almost finished. - Oh, excellent. 417 00:14:23,086 --> 00:14:24,886 Don't forget, you've got to send copies to the Treasury 418 00:14:24,897 --> 00:14:25,897 AND the Finance Department. 419 00:14:25,908 --> 00:14:27,612 No, I've almost finished the office audit. 420 00:14:27,623 --> 00:14:29,374 Out of 10, how would you rate our transparency 421 00:14:29,385 --> 00:14:30,607 surrounding ethical investment? 422 00:14:30,618 --> 00:14:31,739 - Scotty... - I'll go eight. 423 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:33,420 Any sign of those engineering summaries? 424 00:14:33,431 --> 00:14:34,986 Uh, yeah. The courier said they'll be here tomorrow. 425 00:14:34,997 --> 00:14:36,920 - TONY: Have you looked? - Through an ESG lens? 426 00:14:36,931 --> 00:14:38,851 TONY: No, have you looked for them? It's alright. I'll do it. 427 00:14:38,862 --> 00:14:40,260 Tony, can I ask you about 428 00:14:40,271 --> 00:14:42,590 employee/employer engagement metrics? 429 00:14:42,601 --> 00:14:44,054 - No. - Oh. 430 00:14:44,065 --> 00:14:46,042 See? This is how we fell behind. 431 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:47,654 So, shall we try this again? 432 00:14:47,665 --> 00:14:50,105 - What if it gets stuck? - I've got Dev's paperclip. 433 00:14:50,164 --> 00:14:52,160 - Maybe a different CD? - How many have you got? 434 00:14:52,171 --> 00:14:53,529 Um... 435 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:55,208 about 200. 436 00:14:55,226 --> 00:14:57,028 Hey. You think these would be recyclable? 437 00:14:57,039 --> 00:14:58,547 - What? - Just for the ESG audit. 438 00:14:58,558 --> 00:14:59,706 I'm still doing environmental. 439 00:14:59,717 --> 00:15:01,557 So you're telling me the files we're looking for 440 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:03,335 could be on any one of these discs? 441 00:15:03,346 --> 00:15:05,015 - Yep. - This is gonna take forever. 442 00:15:05,026 --> 00:15:06,426 Don't worry. We've got an index file. 443 00:15:06,437 --> 00:15:09,197 - Oh. Where? - It'll be one of these. 444 00:15:12,083 --> 00:15:13,636 - TONY: Hey! - Freeze! Oh! 445 00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:15,767 Ah! Jeez! Sorry, Tony. 446 00:15:15,811 --> 00:15:17,907 Oh. I thought someone might have breached our perimeter. 447 00:15:17,918 --> 00:15:19,914 Oh, right. Hey, have any document parcels 448 00:15:19,924 --> 00:15:21,539 arrived for me or Scotty overnight? 449 00:15:21,550 --> 00:15:22,992 Oh, God. 450 00:15:23,071 --> 00:15:24,520 Oh, to be honest, I've been so busy, 451 00:15:24,531 --> 00:15:26,821 what with the protesters and now this audit. 452 00:15:26,832 --> 00:15:29,785 - You too? - Yeah. Whole-of-organisation approach. 453 00:15:29,785 --> 00:15:31,514 - Some excellent questions. - TONY: Yep. 454 00:15:31,525 --> 00:15:33,777 "Should meetings be in person? 455 00:15:33,788 --> 00:15:36,054 "Should you be printing out so much paper?" 456 00:15:36,065 --> 00:15:38,745 - I mean, it really makes you think. - Hopefully about this Friday. 457 00:15:38,745 --> 00:15:39,825 BRIAN: What's Friday? 458 00:15:39,825 --> 00:15:42,185 Ministerial presentation for the NHDP. 459 00:15:42,185 --> 00:15:43,585 You were gonna set up the AV gear. 460 00:15:43,596 --> 00:15:45,047 Absolutely. (LAUGHS) 461 00:15:45,058 --> 00:15:46,258 Oh, here's an interesting one. 462 00:15:46,269 --> 00:15:48,667 "Could your department be more diverse?" 463 00:15:48,678 --> 00:15:50,758 - You're one person. - Yes. 464 00:15:51,205 --> 00:15:52,951 I'll tick 'maybe'. 465 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:56,345 - This is insane. - I'm sure it'll be one of these. 466 00:15:56,345 --> 00:15:59,041 We've got notebooks from the 17th century we can still read. 467 00:15:59,052 --> 00:16:00,384 You know what we need? Documents. 468 00:16:00,395 --> 00:16:02,626 - Microsoft documents? - No, actual physical files. 469 00:16:02,637 --> 00:16:04,077 There must be something in the archives. 470 00:16:04,088 --> 00:16:05,968 - Like on a server? - On a shelf! 471 00:16:05,979 --> 00:16:07,861 Something capable of gathering dust. 472 00:16:07,872 --> 00:16:10,140 - So, throw these away? - Yeah. Throw them away. 473 00:16:10,151 --> 00:16:11,457 COURTNEY: No, that's e-waste. 474 00:16:11,468 --> 00:16:12,468 Environment. 475 00:16:12,578 --> 00:16:14,138 - You should be recycling. - (SNAPS FINGERS) 476 00:16:14,149 --> 00:16:15,332 Good thinking. 477 00:16:15,343 --> 00:16:17,213 MAN: "Ooh! Our company has ESG!" 478 00:16:17,224 --> 00:16:18,744 WOMAN: Is it a case of all hands on deck? 479 00:16:18,755 --> 00:16:21,243 MAN: Companies must demonstrate their moral virtue. 480 00:16:21,254 --> 00:16:23,058 - WOMAN: Treat everyone with respect. - MAN 2: We can do better. 481 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,749 WOMAN 2: All of those things are good for business. 482 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,067 (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 483 00:16:26,078 --> 00:16:27,773 I reckon there's even more of them today. 484 00:16:27,784 --> 00:16:29,507 - Joan brought her sister. - Oh. 485 00:16:29,518 --> 00:16:31,318 And that's not how you spell 'moratorium'. 486 00:16:31,329 --> 00:16:34,073 I'll let them know. Oh, and they made us scones. 487 00:16:34,084 --> 00:16:35,924 - Really? - To thank Courtney for the batteries. 488 00:16:35,935 --> 00:16:39,054 (LAUGHS) Hey, do we know exactly which of our wind farms it is? 489 00:16:39,065 --> 00:16:40,825 - (SIRENS CHIRP) - I got distracted by the scones. 490 00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:43,237 - Is that police? - Oh. Brian just radioed. 491 00:16:43,248 --> 00:16:45,345 - Apparently, someone was jostled. - TONY: Jostled? 492 00:16:45,356 --> 00:16:48,020 - They don't seem violent. - No, someone jostled THEM. 493 00:16:48,031 --> 00:16:49,574 What? Do we know who? 494 00:16:49,585 --> 00:16:52,505 How hard can it be getting into your own building? 495 00:16:52,505 --> 00:16:54,545 Come on. We've got a meeting. 496 00:16:56,425 --> 00:16:59,025 MONIQUE: Well, I think this has been a valuable exercise. 497 00:16:59,025 --> 00:17:00,265 RHONDA: Couldn't agree more. 498 00:17:00,265 --> 00:17:02,393 MONIQUE: Some very interesting staff feedback. 499 00:17:02,404 --> 00:17:05,654 - Environment ranks poorly. - What's the issue? Plastic straws? 500 00:17:05,665 --> 00:17:06,898 MONIQUE: If only it were that simple. 501 00:17:06,909 --> 00:17:08,029 - Hm. - MONIQUE: Social. 502 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,894 - Oh, where do I start? - With an example. 503 00:17:09,905 --> 00:17:11,570 - I could give you dozens. - Mm-hm. 504 00:17:11,581 --> 00:17:15,300 Hayden mentioned a clear lack of meaningful workplace engagement. 505 00:17:15,311 --> 00:17:17,294 - Bookkeeper Hayden. - He works from home. 506 00:17:17,305 --> 00:17:19,917 - There's a sense of exclusion. - He chooses to work from home. 507 00:17:19,928 --> 00:17:21,317 MONIQUE: Governance is a real concern. 508 00:17:21,328 --> 00:17:23,841 There appears to be little or no protection for whistleblowers. 509 00:17:23,852 --> 00:17:24,875 I didn't know we had any. 510 00:17:24,886 --> 00:17:26,534 Perhaps they're too frightened to speak up. 511 00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:28,612 - About what? - The plastic straws? 512 00:17:28,938 --> 00:17:30,498 Monique, I'm in the final stages 513 00:17:30,509 --> 00:17:33,309 of getting a massive construction project locked down, 514 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,474 - hopefully funded. - Interesting. This could be perfect. 515 00:17:35,485 --> 00:17:37,233 - Perfect for what? - Is this about Hayden? 516 00:17:37,244 --> 00:17:38,851 MONIQUE: The next stage of our audit. 517 00:17:38,862 --> 00:17:42,234 What if we were to run an ESG lens across this whole project? 518 00:17:42,245 --> 00:17:44,485 - See how compliant you are. - TONY: No. 519 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:46,262 - MONIQUE: I'm sensing some resistance. - Yeah, I said no. 520 00:17:46,273 --> 00:17:48,094 Tony, no-one is pointing the finger at you. 521 00:17:48,105 --> 00:17:49,945 I am. He's dragging his feet again. 522 00:17:49,956 --> 00:17:52,036 I want you to see this as an opportunity. 523 00:17:52,047 --> 00:17:55,127 I'm trying to get 1.000km of interstate highway divided. 524 00:17:55,138 --> 00:17:56,738 And that is a noble goal. 525 00:17:56,851 --> 00:17:58,651 But what's the first thing people are going to ask? 526 00:17:58,662 --> 00:18:00,462 "How soon can you do another 1.000km?" 527 00:18:00,473 --> 00:18:02,186 "What's your ESG compliance?" 528 00:18:02,197 --> 00:18:03,280 Wood for the trees. 529 00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:06,000 Um, what practically will this accreditation process... 530 00:18:06,011 --> 00:18:07,331 uh, how will it help us? 531 00:18:07,342 --> 00:18:09,224 It'll stop us from falling behind. 532 00:18:09,235 --> 00:18:11,595 Tony, it's a measure, a mirror, 533 00:18:11,606 --> 00:18:12,846 a way of looking at yourself 534 00:18:12,857 --> 00:18:14,977 and identifying where you're falling short. 535 00:18:14,988 --> 00:18:18,148 So we get ESG-compliant on a project we may never complete? 536 00:18:18,192 --> 00:18:19,623 It's part of the completion. 537 00:18:19,634 --> 00:18:21,814 - You follow that? - I'm still thinking about Hayden. 538 00:18:22,072 --> 00:18:24,707 Why is there a policeman? Why is that man pointing at Rhonda? 539 00:18:24,718 --> 00:18:25,878 Hm? 540 00:18:28,458 --> 00:18:29,707 Oh! I did it! 541 00:18:29,718 --> 00:18:30,798 How did I do that? 542 00:18:30,809 --> 00:18:32,386 Okay. Bit of a breakthrough. 543 00:18:32,397 --> 00:18:33,717 - Yep? - Take a look. 544 00:18:33,728 --> 00:18:35,934 - Oh! - You said, "Change your screensaver." 545 00:18:35,945 --> 00:18:38,185 Not to that! What's the breakthrough? 546 00:18:38,185 --> 00:18:39,413 ASHAN: Well, turns out there was a book written 547 00:18:39,424 --> 00:18:41,494 about the early days of the Snowy Hydro Scheme. 548 00:18:41,505 --> 00:18:42,650 "Taming the Wild, 549 00:18:42,661 --> 00:18:45,133 a detailed history of proceedings leading to the establishment 550 00:18:45,144 --> 00:18:47,768 - of the Snowy Mountain Hydro-Electric Authority." - Catchy title. 551 00:18:47,779 --> 00:18:49,572 It's bound to tell us who first came up with the name. 552 00:18:49,583 --> 00:18:51,505 - Can you download a copy? - ASHAN: Sure. 553 00:18:52,958 --> 00:18:54,318 Ah! It's not digital. 554 00:18:54,329 --> 00:18:56,929 - Then we'll order one. - Sure. 555 00:18:58,085 --> 00:18:59,542 Ah! Out of stock. 556 00:18:59,553 --> 00:19:00,806 - Are you kidding? - ASHAN: Hang on. 557 00:19:00,817 --> 00:19:03,060 - There's a copy in a public library. - Let's borrow it. 558 00:19:03,071 --> 00:19:04,391 ASHAN: Sure. 559 00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:07,674 Ah! Not for loan. 560 00:19:07,685 --> 00:19:09,314 - Can you stop leaving gaps? - ASHAN: Sorry. 561 00:19:09,325 --> 00:19:11,925 Alright. Then let's go there in person. 562 00:19:12,051 --> 00:19:13,211 Bit of a drive. 563 00:19:13,398 --> 00:19:14,954 - Where is it? - Cooma. 564 00:19:14,965 --> 00:19:17,565 I'm not sure if my e-bike is up to it. 565 00:19:17,624 --> 00:19:20,265 TONY: Katie? Why are the protesters in our kitchen? 566 00:19:20,265 --> 00:19:21,987 - Have they stormed the building? - No. 567 00:19:21,998 --> 00:19:23,646 Courtney let them in to use the kettle. 568 00:19:23,657 --> 00:19:25,193 - You want me to disperse them? - No. 569 00:19:25,204 --> 00:19:26,630 - We need a hard line. - Yep. 570 00:19:26,641 --> 00:19:27,681 They brought us more scones. 571 00:19:27,692 --> 00:19:29,261 - Beauty! - What happened to hard line? 572 00:19:29,272 --> 00:19:32,192 And, Tony, I asked them which wind farm they're protesting about. 573 00:19:32,203 --> 00:19:34,323 - It's on the south coast. - Yeah. South coast of what? 574 00:19:34,385 --> 00:19:35,978 - I'll go check. - BRIAN: I'll escort you. 575 00:19:35,989 --> 00:19:38,531 - Did they bring any jam? - Oh, yeah, homemade. 576 00:19:40,197 --> 00:19:41,441 Hard line. 577 00:19:43,378 --> 00:19:46,258 Alrighty. Let's get started. 578 00:19:46,457 --> 00:19:47,699 - Sorry? - (WHISPERS) We're not here. 579 00:19:47,710 --> 00:19:49,070 - You are. - Carry on. 580 00:19:49,683 --> 00:19:51,907 - Petra, how'd you go? - PETRA: We're looking pretty well covered 581 00:19:51,918 --> 00:19:53,773 for the mid-level civil construction roles. 582 00:19:53,784 --> 00:19:56,480 I'm just waiting on detailed projections of other skill areas. 583 00:19:56,491 --> 00:19:58,291 So... concrete, surveying... 584 00:19:58,302 --> 00:19:59,854 - Can I just come in here? - You have. 585 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,853 The people you're talking about, building this road... 586 00:20:01,864 --> 00:20:03,813 - Highway. - ... where would they come from? 587 00:20:03,824 --> 00:20:04,948 Oh. Stuart? 588 00:20:04,959 --> 00:20:07,313 We've partnered with several large labour-hire agencies. 589 00:20:07,324 --> 00:20:10,654 - It's a mix of CFMEU and AW... - MONIQUE: But socio-economically. 590 00:20:10,665 --> 00:20:13,043 - What? - Is there a risk that we could be exploiting them? 591 00:20:13,054 --> 00:20:15,351 - Hmm. It's a good question. - This is where the framework helps. 592 00:20:15,362 --> 00:20:17,420 Exploitative? Have you seen the workplace agreements? 593 00:20:17,431 --> 00:20:18,591 MONIQUE: Tony. Tone. 594 00:20:18,611 --> 00:20:20,574 TONY: We've got union officials ready to pull the plug 595 00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:23,016 if the temperature hits 30 degrees, 8-day fortnights. 596 00:20:23,027 --> 00:20:25,574 I've got kids with stop/go signs on quarter of a million dollars a year 597 00:20:25,585 --> 00:20:28,324 - plus bonuses. - Just clarifying. Please, continue. 598 00:20:28,358 --> 00:20:29,607 Heavy haulage will be staggered... 599 00:20:29,618 --> 00:20:31,458 Actually, there was another thing. This road of yours. 600 00:20:31,469 --> 00:20:33,869 - Highway. - What will it be made of? 601 00:20:34,131 --> 00:20:35,307 Oh. Kirsty? 602 00:20:35,318 --> 00:20:36,440 KIRSTY: Deep-strength asphalt. 603 00:20:36,451 --> 00:20:38,971 On a cement stabilised granular sub-base. 604 00:20:38,982 --> 00:20:40,546 - Interesting. - It is, yeah. 605 00:20:40,557 --> 00:20:42,532 - Ever considered recycled materials? - TONY: No. 606 00:20:42,543 --> 00:20:44,363 - Open mind, Tony. - Rubber? 607 00:20:44,374 --> 00:20:46,209 - It wouldn't work. - I've read about it working. 608 00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:48,647 - Yeah, on Danish bike paths. - See what happened there? 609 00:20:48,658 --> 00:20:50,371 - Loud and clear. - Unnecessary aggression. 610 00:20:50,382 --> 00:20:52,178 - Mmm. - This speaks to governance. 611 00:20:52,188 --> 00:20:54,309 - G. - MONIQUE: Not letting other voices be heard. 612 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,587 - No. - I mean, why isn't Hayden here? 613 00:20:55,598 --> 00:20:58,399 Hayden?! He works from home. He's not an engineer. 614 00:20:58,410 --> 00:20:59,973 I wouldn't be putting labels on people. 615 00:20:59,984 --> 00:21:02,704 Sorry, he doesn't identify as an engineer. 616 00:21:02,715 --> 00:21:03,715 (SIGHS) 617 00:21:03,831 --> 00:21:06,312 I wonder if we might have a word in private. 618 00:21:15,837 --> 00:21:18,268 - ASHAN: I think we're lost. - What does the map say? 619 00:21:18,286 --> 00:21:20,387 - "No reception." - NAT: No, the map! 620 00:21:20,398 --> 00:21:21,998 - This! - ASHAN: Oh. 621 00:21:23,678 --> 00:21:25,518 How do you use it? 622 00:21:26,844 --> 00:21:27,844 (SIGHS) 623 00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:29,338 Alright. I'm sorry. 624 00:21:29,349 --> 00:21:31,146 - Tony, we're not blaming you. - I am. 625 00:21:31,157 --> 00:21:32,753 But there's some definite red flags here. 626 00:21:32,764 --> 00:21:34,300 Monique, I've spent years putting together 627 00:21:34,311 --> 00:21:35,951 a federated infrastructure system. 628 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:37,962 I'm this close to getting it across the line. 629 00:21:37,973 --> 00:21:40,613 And you're microdosing my office on ESG. 630 00:21:40,624 --> 00:21:42,277 - What have you got against inclusion? - What? 631 00:21:42,288 --> 00:21:43,860 What have you got against sustainability? 632 00:21:43,871 --> 00:21:45,927 - Are you a climate denier? - You want sustainability? 633 00:21:45,938 --> 00:21:47,260 On this one project, I've got 634 00:21:47,271 --> 00:21:49,433 seven different environmental impact statements. 635 00:21:49,444 --> 00:21:50,444 Inclusivity? 636 00:21:50,455 --> 00:21:52,920 There's already 87 volumes of workplace regulations, 637 00:21:52,931 --> 00:21:55,988 non-discrimination legislation, international labour treaties. 638 00:21:55,999 --> 00:21:56,999 - There's that tone again. - Yeah. 639 00:21:57,010 --> 00:21:58,410 There's that lack of perspective again. 640 00:21:58,421 --> 00:22:00,153 I can't help but observe that you do have 641 00:22:00,164 --> 00:22:02,681 a very male-centric power structure operating here. 642 00:22:02,692 --> 00:22:04,604 - Your point? - I wonder whether someone in a 643 00:22:04,614 --> 00:22:06,100 leadership role who was female, 644 00:22:06,111 --> 00:22:07,680 or who identified as female, 645 00:22:07,691 --> 00:22:09,127 might bring a softer touch. 646 00:22:09,138 --> 00:22:10,418 I'm not sure that's gonna matter... 647 00:22:10,429 --> 00:22:11,691 RHONDA: Of course they would! 648 00:22:11,702 --> 00:22:13,681 All that aggression. It's toxic. 649 00:22:19,217 --> 00:22:20,417 ASHAN: Shields. 650 00:22:20,428 --> 00:22:22,708 Smith. Sneddon. Sweeney. 651 00:22:23,218 --> 00:22:24,364 - Here. - Oh. Where? 652 00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:26,095 - Well, this is where it should be. - You're kidding me. 653 00:22:26,106 --> 00:22:27,226 Maybe someone borrowed it. 654 00:22:27,237 --> 00:22:29,248 - You said it's not for loan. - Or stole it. 655 00:22:29,259 --> 00:22:31,639 Who would steal a boring book about the early days of 656 00:22:31,649 --> 00:22:33,849 - the Snowy River Hydro Sc... - Shh! 657 00:22:33,892 --> 00:22:35,012 NAT: Sorry. 658 00:22:37,045 --> 00:22:38,725 So, what now? 659 00:22:38,845 --> 00:22:39,870 (SIGHS) 660 00:22:40,004 --> 00:22:42,684 (PROTESTERS SHOUT) 661 00:22:45,125 --> 00:22:46,980 Tony? The Minister's just arrived. 662 00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:48,019 Oh. 663 00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:49,950 Oh, this one. That's it. 664 00:22:49,997 --> 00:22:51,806 I am looking forward to today, Tony. 665 00:22:51,817 --> 00:22:53,054 Well, hold your fire, Minister, 666 00:22:53,065 --> 00:22:54,774 but there is definitely some good news. 667 00:22:54,785 --> 00:22:56,293 So I've heard. Quite a bit of progress. 668 00:22:56,304 --> 00:22:57,931 Well, I'll let you be the judge. 669 00:22:57,942 --> 00:22:59,182 (LAUGHS) 670 00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:00,665 Set to go? TONY: Yep. 671 00:23:00,676 --> 00:23:03,600 - Katie, the, uh, briefing documents. - We're trying paperless. 672 00:23:03,611 --> 00:23:05,014 - The MSG lens. - TONY: What?! 673 00:23:05,025 --> 00:23:06,945 But Brian's got it all on the screen. 674 00:23:06,945 --> 00:23:08,156 Okay. Uh... alright. 675 00:23:08,167 --> 00:23:11,088 Well, um, let me take you through an update of the NHDP, 676 00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:13,863 where we are with the states, the territories and, of course... 677 00:23:13,874 --> 00:23:15,316 - BRAD: ESG compliance. - What was that? 678 00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:16,880 Apologies, Tony. I interrupted you. 679 00:23:16,891 --> 00:23:19,620 - Um... and, of course... - The Expenditure Review Committee. 680 00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:22,592 - ESG? Where did that come from? - I'm hearing whispers. It's all good. 681 00:23:22,603 --> 00:23:25,093 I guess it's just not our main focus at this point. 682 00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:28,654 Sure. Sure, sure. Just, it speaks to where we're trying to up our game. 683 00:23:28,665 --> 00:23:30,104 TONY: Sure. Yeah. Well, how about I whip 684 00:23:30,114 --> 00:23:33,086 through the NHDP, current state of play? Brian? 685 00:23:34,116 --> 00:23:35,556 BRIAN: Oh. Um... hang on. 686 00:23:35,567 --> 00:23:36,616 TONY: Yep. 687 00:23:36,937 --> 00:23:38,577 Wrong folder, I think. 688 00:23:40,018 --> 00:23:41,193 Taming the Wild. 689 00:23:41,204 --> 00:23:42,879 NAT: It doesn't appear to be on the shelf. 690 00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:44,076 Let me take a look. 691 00:23:44,087 --> 00:23:45,820 That's the sort of cable we were chasing. 692 00:23:45,831 --> 00:23:48,252 Ah! Here we go. It seems to have been archived. 693 00:23:48,263 --> 00:23:49,503 - Archived? - Mmm. 694 00:23:49,514 --> 00:23:51,380 We take them off the shelf to protect them from... 695 00:23:51,391 --> 00:23:52,551 - Readers? - Damage. 696 00:23:52,562 --> 00:23:54,922 Of course. Is there a chance we could take a quick look? 697 00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:56,934 Archives are only open on Monday. 698 00:23:56,945 --> 00:23:59,451 - You may have to wait a couple of days. - Days? 699 00:23:59,753 --> 00:24:00,753 - What now? - (INAUDIBLE) 700 00:24:00,764 --> 00:24:02,480 Just looking up things to do in Cooma. 701 00:24:02,491 --> 00:24:03,931 We are not staying in Coo... 702 00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:05,093 - Excuse me. - Mmm. 703 00:24:05,104 --> 00:24:07,756 Is there a chance you could send us an excerpt from the book? 704 00:24:07,767 --> 00:24:09,917 - Oh, could be copyright issues. - NAT: Not the whole thing. 705 00:24:09,928 --> 00:24:11,568 We're only interested in the first few chapters, 706 00:24:11,579 --> 00:24:13,426 about the formation of the Hydro Scheme. 707 00:24:13,437 --> 00:24:15,223 - I'll see what I can do. - Thank you. 708 00:24:15,234 --> 00:24:16,653 There's a trout fishing museum. 709 00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:19,584 Okay. So we come all the way back to the org chart. 710 00:24:19,824 --> 00:24:21,814 So, our assessment, tick. 711 00:24:21,825 --> 00:24:24,800 States and territories agree to the allocation formula. Tick. 712 00:24:24,811 --> 00:24:26,779 In principle, ministerial support. 713 00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:29,260 - Big tick. - ERC, cabinet, etc. 714 00:24:29,271 --> 00:24:31,734 Question, how far are we from announcing? 715 00:24:31,745 --> 00:24:33,905 The whole Highway Duplication Program? 716 00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:35,341 - BRAD: Yeah. - Well, it sort of depends. 717 00:24:35,352 --> 00:24:36,721 And if it's ESG-compliant. 718 00:24:36,732 --> 00:24:38,934 Well... we won't know that it's ESG-compliant. 719 00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:41,345 - She's right. We ARE falling behind. - Sorry, who was right? 720 00:24:41,345 --> 00:24:44,301 - Tony, this is wonderful work, and well done. - TONY: But? 721 00:24:44,312 --> 00:24:47,054 But are we better off, rather than the sugar hit 722 00:24:47,065 --> 00:24:49,230 - of announcing a national highway thing... - Not sure that it's a sugar hit. 723 00:24:49,241 --> 00:24:51,071 ... are we better off getting all of our 724 00:24:51,081 --> 00:24:52,698 ESG ducks in a row then coming back? 725 00:24:52,709 --> 00:24:54,309 Isn't that getting the cart before the horse? 726 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,580 - No. - I'm not even sure there's a horse. 727 00:24:56,591 --> 00:24:57,591 What about the ducks? 728 00:24:57,602 --> 00:25:00,122 - Why are we using a horse and cart? - Oh, we ARE falling behind. 729 00:25:00,133 --> 00:25:01,413 (SCOTT SIGHS) 730 00:25:01,424 --> 00:25:02,426 Um... 731 00:25:09,118 --> 00:25:12,038 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 732 00:25:15,385 --> 00:25:16,745 NAT: Oh! 733 00:25:16,997 --> 00:25:18,637 Parcel from the Cooma Public Library. 734 00:25:18,648 --> 00:25:20,048 Yes! Our book. 735 00:25:20,059 --> 00:25:21,739 And can you make sure to recycle that post bag? 736 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:22,830 Sure. 737 00:25:22,841 --> 00:25:24,681 Ta-da! 738 00:25:24,692 --> 00:25:26,465 - What the hell? - What is it? 739 00:25:26,465 --> 00:25:28,312 - DEV: Oh, it's microfiche. - What? 740 00:25:28,323 --> 00:25:30,460 It's how we used to store books and newspapers. 741 00:25:30,471 --> 00:25:33,106 There's stuff written on it. You reckon it's what we're after? 742 00:25:33,117 --> 00:25:34,352 I guess. 743 00:25:34,363 --> 00:25:37,029 - What do we plug it into? - Dev? 744 00:25:37,180 --> 00:25:39,934 - Oh, THAT south coast. - That's the wind farm. 745 00:25:39,945 --> 00:25:41,945 - We're not building it. - We're backing down? 746 00:25:41,945 --> 00:25:43,856 No, no. That's a state government project. 747 00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:45,427 - So nothing to do with us? - No. 748 00:25:45,438 --> 00:25:47,746 So where's the state infrastructure office? 749 00:25:47,757 --> 00:25:50,317 Uh... it's that building. 750 00:25:50,492 --> 00:25:52,030 I'll let them know. 751 00:25:52,451 --> 00:25:54,624 - When do we want it? - Now! 752 00:25:54,945 --> 00:25:55,945 There. 753 00:25:56,191 --> 00:25:58,040 "At the meeting's end, a formal declaration 754 00:25:58,050 --> 00:25:59,794 was made by the engineer-in-chief 755 00:25:59,805 --> 00:26:02,134 for the formation of the Snowy Mountain Hydro-Electricity Scheme." 756 00:26:02,145 --> 00:26:04,345 "The chief engineer, working for the Australian government..." 757 00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:06,480 - So we own the phrase. - MAN: Terribly sorry. 758 00:26:06,491 --> 00:26:08,371 The museum closes in five minutes. 759 00:26:08,391 --> 00:26:09,951 All good. 760 00:26:10,745 --> 00:26:12,736 Right. How to get this out now? 761 00:26:25,145 --> 00:26:27,625 (INAUDIBLE) 762 00:26:29,071 --> 00:26:30,267 What do we want? 763 00:26:30,278 --> 00:26:31,414 No wind farm! 764 00:26:31,425 --> 00:26:33,435 - When do we want it? - Now! 765 00:26:33,446 --> 00:26:35,794 - What do we want? - No wind farm! 766 00:26:35,805 --> 00:26:37,989 - When do we want it? - Now! 767 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:42,589 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 60629

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