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- Australia's best days are ahead of us.
- We live in the best country in the world.
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- No asterisks, no footnotes.
- From road to rail...
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- We are in the age of infrastructure.
- The dawn of a new era.
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- The great Australian dream.
- To build a better future.
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We're spending more than any
government has ever spent.
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- Money splashed around.
- Splashed more cash.
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- The cash splash.
- It's big money in anyone's language.
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- This is a nation-building...
- Funds from the nation-building...
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- ... nation-building...
- ... nation-building...
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Nation-building.
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Uh, not... not what I meant.
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But surely it's what defines
any decent organisation,
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pursuing a set of standards that
puts impact and global stewardship
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ahead of any relentless
pursuit of profits or power.
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- (APPLAUSE)
- Mmm. Yep. Yeah.
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But, Bettina, I'm largely in agreement.
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But from my perspective as head
of a government organisation,
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these sort of ESG compliance
measures are somewhat less relevant.
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Well, from my perspective, you're wrong.
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- Well...
- (APPLAUSE)
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Okay, but...
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Sorry, can I...
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Sorry. I just want to respond to that.
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- What do we want?
- No wind farm!
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- When do we want it?
- Now!
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- What do we want?
- No wind farm!
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- When do we want it?
- Now!
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... I'll keep.
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That one's for Nat.
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- Oh. Morning, Tony.
- Hiya, Courtney.
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Do we know what's going on outside?
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- Protesters.
- Yeah, I can hear that.
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- Just arrived this morning.
- Is this about me last night?
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- I think it's about windmills.
- Oh. Do we know what they want?
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Not sure, but they want it now.
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- Brian's onto it.
- You were ambushed.
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TONY: I don't want to
rake over it, Scotty.
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SCOTT: I mean, of course the
people are gonna side with her.
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- And turn on you.
- I don't think anyone TURNED on me.
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You don't see the viewer
comments on the screen.
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It's also the way they edit, to
make YOU look like the bad guy.
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- TONY: It's shot live.
- Is it?
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- (WHISTLES)
- I think you did really well, Tony.
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- Lots of applause.
- Yeah, but not for me.
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- But still, applause.
- Yep. That's the way it works.
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Anything for me? Thank you.
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- You got a moment?
- NAT: Sure.
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- Who's that mob out the front?
- Brian's onto it.
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- They're not here for Tony?
- We don't think so.
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Alright. I just wanted
to give you a heads-up.
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Turns out we might be having
another crack at the Snowy.
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- You mean like a sequel?
- What?
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- Are you talking about the movie?
- NAT: The Snowy River Hydro Scheme?
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- Yes. We're thinking of selling it.
- Oh, okay.
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- Any reasons?
- I can give you about 10 billion.
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- Sure.
- But there's a fly in the ointment.
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Before we can even get started, we
need to work out who owns the thing.
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- The government does.
- Not the power stations. The name.
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- The "Snowy River Hydro Scheme".
- What, like, the trademark?
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JIM: Yeah. Everything.
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Brand, IP, copyright. Legal
tell us we need clear title.
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We've tried selling
the Snowy before, right?
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JIM: Mmm. A bunch of times.
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So they would have looked
into ownership then.
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- Can I leave it with you?
- (PROTESTERS SHOUT)
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- Are you sure they're not here for him?
- (PROTESTERS SHOUT)
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I'm only getting every second word.
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I think it's "What do we want?"
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Someone who knows how
to use a megaphone?
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Can you read the sign down there?
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"No wind farm."
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Have we announced a new wind farm?
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I could check our
project delivery schedule.
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Or we could just go and ask one of them.
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Okay.
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- Not a great night for YOU.
- Oh, I wasn't meant to do it.
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The Minister pulled out at the
last minute. Some sort of emergency.
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Well, it turns out he got home early.
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He must have left at half-time.
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And he did see a bit.
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- What emergency has a half-time?
- Now, he's not blaming you.
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- But Bettina did get him thinking.
- Who?
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The woman who got all the
applause with the ESP thing.
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Extrasensory perception?
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- What am I thinking of?
- ESG?
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That's the one. And he wants
to know, are we falling behind?
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- In what sense?
- Well, in general.
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You know, with the environment
and the... what's the S?
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- Social.
- Social and, um...
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- Governance.
- Is it something we should be looking into?
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- No.
- I think he's keen.
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I'm not. Besides, we're a
little busy right now, Jim.
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- What are you doing?
- National Highway Duplication Program.
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- Uh...
- Our major project.
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Urgent assessment for
the Estimates Committee.
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- Oh!
- Yeah.
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Yeah. I think it's a
question of priorities.
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- Yep. I agree.
- Can I leave it with you?
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- Yep.
- We can't afford to fall behind.
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- No, we can't.
- Hey. And last night?
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- Mm-hm?
- Tough crowd.
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Thanks.
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(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
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How's it looking? Interesting.
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- This trademark thing could be a bit tricky.
- NAT: Really?
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There's a bunch of
people using the phrase...
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Snowy River Caravans,
Snowy Mountain Spring Water,
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the Snowy Classic bike ride.
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That's a bit of a stretch.
Well, then there's that poem.
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- What poem?
- Banjo Paterson.
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- The Man from Snowy Hydro?
- Legal says it's a risk.
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What about the exact
words "Snowy Hydro"?
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There's the Snowy
Hydro Discovery Centre.
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I think that's owned by the government.
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Alright. What about
"Snowy Hydro cost blowout"?
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- What?
- Sorry. That's a news story.
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NAT: Maybe Jim's right.
We should go back through some
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- of the old privatisation attempts.
- "Snowy Hydro bungle".
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Sorry. Another news story.
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- Onto it.
- Great.
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- TONY: Scotty?
- SCOTT: Yep. I'm coming.
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- Okay.
- BRIAN: Ah, Tony.
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- What's with the vest?
- (SIGHS) Wanted to give you a sitrep.
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- A what?
- We estimate the crowd at or around 10 persons.
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- Not really a crowd.
- Age range, 55 to 80.
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So retirees.
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- I'm thinking bollards.
- What for?
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In case they try ramming the entrance.
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- With what? A mobility scooter?
- Can't be too careful.
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- Is that pepper spray?
- Mm-hm.
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Just in case the situation escalates.
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Honestly, Brian, I don't
want to fight with them.
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- Commence negotiations.
- It's not a siege.
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- I'm saying talk to them.
- Copy that.
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- (RADIO CRACKLES)
- Leaving sector one now.
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- SCOTT: Yes.
- TONY: Okay.
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- SCOTT: Up.
- TONY: No, down low. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Is that for all of the
systems, their parameters?
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- (RADIO CRACKLES)
- Okay.
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Yep.
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Oh. Well, that is great news.
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Yeah. Not now, Rhonda. No.
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Well, if we get the state
submissions back end of next week
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and they agree to the
formula, with the odd caveat,
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then I reckon we're back on track.
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Sorry, mate. I'm just
gonna have to call you back.
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Sorry, team. Can I just
grab a minute off you?
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We'll need longer than that.
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- TONY: Grab yourselves a coffee.
- Make it lunch.
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- Go on.
- Oh. And... and... and a coffee?
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- TONY: Yeah.
- Yeah.
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Well, what's our plan?
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- What plan?
- Oh.
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I thought Jim spoke to you
about this whole ECG debacle.
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- Electrocardiogram?
- Oh, you know what I'm talking about.
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- ESG?
- Thank you.
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Honestly, Rhonda, what's
the sudden urgency?
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Oh. Allow me to show you.
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- Polling data?
- Oh. The message is clear.
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- Is this where it's coming from?
- It's coming from everywhere.
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Voters 18 to 35. What's the E for?
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- Environment.
- Yep.
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"Should the government take
climate change and sustainability
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into account when
formulating policy?" 87%.
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- Yeah. Agreed.
- And the S?
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- Social.
- Yep.
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"Should diversity, inclusion
and wider social issues
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be a factor in policy formation?"
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93%.
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- No argument from me.
- And the...?
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- Governance.
- Same story. Honestly.
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It's like you're hearing
this for the first time.
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No wonder we've fallen behind.
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Rhonda, this is what I
tried to explain last night.
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And wasn't that a car crash?
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ESG is not actually
designed for government.
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- Hear that? (SILENCE)
- What?
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No-one's applauding.
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We've got our own set of guidelines.
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We've got an entire
regulatory framework.
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And there goes our 18-to-35-year-olds.
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We need to fix this.
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We're falling behind.
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(SIGHS)
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So, last time the government
attempted privatisation of the Snowy
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was in 2006.
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I've chased the audit
committee's report.
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- And what does it say?
- "File no longer retrievable."
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I guess it's nearly 20 years ago.
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And our archive storage
system got updated.
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There must still be
something on the database.
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"Snowy privatisation".
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No, our database only
goes back five years.
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- That's when we moved to the cloud.
- I knew that was a mistake.
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Not really. Much better search function.
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For documents that are
less than five years old.
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Yeah. It's really good for them.
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I'll keep looking.
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- (PROTESTERS SHOUT)
- KATIE: Tony?
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- Good news on the protesters.
- They're packing up?
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No, but Courtney managed
to fix their megaphone.
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- It was the batteries.
- TONY: I thought it was a bit clearer.
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- What's Brian doing down there?
- KATIE: Looking for Neo-Nazis.
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- What?
- He thought he saw a hate symbol.
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- TONY: Really?
- I suspect it was just a badly drawn windmill.
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Oh, yeah. I think you might be right.
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- Hey, Jim.
- Good news.
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Just came from a ministerial briefing,
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and the big fella
likes what he's hearing.
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- Oh, wow.
- He's right behind it.
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- The whole NHDP?
- I think it was ES-something.
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- National Highway Duplication Program?
- Oh, damn!
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I was supposed to
mention that, wasn't I?
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Jim, the Expenditure Review
Committee meet next week.
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- I'll shoot him a text.
- Oh, for God's sakes!
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It's swings and roundabouts!
We got the go-ahead on ESG.
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Jim, can I explain to
you exactly what ESG is?
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Oh, that'd be great, 'cause
Rhonda was a bit vague.
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- Yep.
- Can I get this for the Minister?
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He was a little hazy on it too.
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Hey, Siri, dictate this.
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ESG is basically an
exercise to assess your level
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of gender diversity,
inclusivity, sustainability.
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- (WHISPERS) Oh, he's gonna love this.
- Yep.
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It's a comprehensive,
time-consuming audit
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in order to rank your
level of compliance.
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(WHISPERS) Oh, this is great.
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But even for corporations,
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it's often a virtue-signalling
public relations boondoggle.
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- For us, a complete waste of time.
- Siri, stop.
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Worse, it's gonna distract
us from our real work.
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- Just remind me.
- Highway Duplication.
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- Oh, yeah. I'm gonna send...
- Text.
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Text. Yeah, yeah. You know what?
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- I'm just gonna play him the first part.
- Sure.
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Ta-da!
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- What's that?
- I found my old laptop.
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I'm pretty sure it should still have
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the archive stuff we're
searching for on the hard drive.
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- Great!
- I'm just looking for a charger.
241
00:08:15,174 --> 00:08:17,745
- Oh.
- Nah, that's USB-C.
242
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You wouldn't happen to have a MagSafe?
243
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- I don't even know what that is.
- I still have one at home.
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Oh, great. Go get it.
245
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- Oh, no!
- What?
246
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My e-bike hasn't recharged.
247
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- Well, just use the pedals.
- Oh, yeah.
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Be right back.
249
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- Are you leaving the premises?
- Yep.
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I'll escort you out.
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Safe passage.
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- (RADIO CRACKLES)
- Leaving sector three now.
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Okay.
254
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I think Jim will back me up on this.
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If we sign off on it our end then get
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it to Canberra end of the month...
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And the supporting documentation?
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Uh, yep. All lodged with the cabinet
secretary's office for the ERC.
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Then cabinet then budget. Yeah, Jim?
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Uh, hang on, Tony. Did
you get a text from Rhonda?
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Uh, yeah. Yep. Got a few.
We can come back to that.
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- Is Tony there?
- Uh, yes. Yes, he is.
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- RHONDA: What's your problem?
- What?
264
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Monique is waiting for you right now.
265
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Who's Monique, and why
is she waiting for me?
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The EPL, Tony.
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We're falling behind, and she's
here to help. Quick sticks!
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No, no, no. We... we can
come back to that any time.
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We finish this now. Too
important to postpone.
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Hello?
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I think Rhonda muted you, Tony.
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God, she shits me.
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RHONDA: I heard that.
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Hurry up.
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What the hell?
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- I'm okay.
- You only live a few blocks away.
277
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It was a pretty steep hill.
278
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One of the protesters
helped him into the lift.
279
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- NAT: How'd you go, with the charger?
- Found it.
280
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- NAT: Great.
- And even better news.
281
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- NAT: Yeah?
- I found a bunch of photos I thought I'd lost.
282
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NAT: Oh! Please.
283
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- That is not safe for work.
- That's my new screensaver.
284
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NAT: What about the Snowy?
285
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Couldn't find any
reference to the ownership
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of the phrase "Snowy River Hydro
Scheme" in the '06 proceeding,
287
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but the footnotes refer
to a previous attempt
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at privatisation in 1993.
289
00:09:52,523 --> 00:09:55,163
- And?
- My laptop only goes back to 2004.
290
00:09:55,312 --> 00:09:58,054
Hang on. Can't we just ring the
person who chaired the 2006 report?
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I did. He's got the file
index on his BlackBerry.
292
00:10:00,345 --> 00:10:01,345
NAT: And?
293
00:10:01,345 --> 00:10:03,252
He's searching for a charger.
294
00:10:03,263 --> 00:10:05,063
Can you close that, please?
295
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Mmm.
296
00:10:09,562 --> 00:10:11,639
- It's worse than I thought.
- She hasn't said anything yet.
297
00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:12,650
She said "Mmm."
298
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Were you involved in the Sir Stanford
Wessells statue thing as well?
299
00:10:15,385 --> 00:10:17,666
I work across a range of
problematic departments.
300
00:10:17,677 --> 00:10:18,839
- Problematic?
- Well!
301
00:10:18,850 --> 00:10:20,596
I think it's pretty obvious
what's happened here.
302
00:10:20,607 --> 00:10:21,607
We've fallen behind.
303
00:10:21,618 --> 00:10:23,374
There's a clear lack of ESG framework.
304
00:10:23,385 --> 00:10:24,785
- Yeah, but I'm not sure that...
- Look, Tony.
305
00:10:24,785 --> 00:10:26,465
- No-one is blaming you.
- I am.
306
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Seriously, is anyone worrying about ESG?
307
00:10:28,609 --> 00:10:30,158
I think it's an issue
that impacts us all.
308
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Especially 18-to-35-year-olds.
309
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MONIQUE: I've done a lot of
work within this space, helping
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some of our more backward organisations
311
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- navigate the challenges.
- Backward?
312
00:10:38,307 --> 00:10:40,348
- I understand. You're defensive.
- No, I'm busy.
313
00:10:40,359 --> 00:10:42,894
So, what I'd like to start
with is an ESG pulse check.
314
00:10:42,905 --> 00:10:44,905
Look at everything through an ESG lens.
315
00:10:44,905 --> 00:10:46,505
- Perfect.
- Do you even know what that means?
316
00:10:46,505 --> 00:10:48,928
- I'm sure Monique does.
- It's an office audit.
317
00:10:48,939 --> 00:10:50,909
To help us get a feel
for where we're all at.
318
00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,000
- And where are we at?
- Falling behind?
319
00:10:53,011 --> 00:10:54,651
- Exactly.
- (SCOTT SIGHS)
320
00:10:54,739 --> 00:10:57,247
Brian says we should have pretty
much everything backed up on these.
321
00:10:57,258 --> 00:11:00,185
- Where is Brian?
- Running background checks on the protesters.
322
00:11:00,322 --> 00:11:01,782
Oh. Here we go.
323
00:11:02,018 --> 00:11:04,665
Ah! This one's labelled "1990 to 1995".
324
00:11:04,676 --> 00:11:06,316
- You know what that means.
- It'll have spiders.
325
00:11:06,327 --> 00:11:07,647
It'll have the files we're chasing.
326
00:11:07,658 --> 00:11:09,265
We just need to find a
cable so we can connect it
327
00:11:09,265 --> 00:11:12,145
- to one of our laptops.
- Mmm. There's a bunch here.
328
00:11:12,171 --> 00:11:13,171
This?
329
00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:16,305
USB-C. Unless there's an adaptor.
330
00:11:16,434 --> 00:11:17,521
Mini-DVI?
331
00:11:17,532 --> 00:11:19,132
Nah, that's female-to-female.
332
00:11:19,245 --> 00:11:20,774
Can you please never
use that phrase again?
333
00:11:20,785 --> 00:11:22,494
Do you have a USB-C to a Lightning?
334
00:11:22,505 --> 00:11:24,779
- I've got this.
- Yes!
335
00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:27,190
- It's the right one?
- No, it's my old bike lock.
336
00:11:28,584 --> 00:11:29,584
I'll keep looking.
337
00:11:29,728 --> 00:11:32,148
WOMAN: You've heard of ESG, haven't you?
338
00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:33,905
MAN: It's about getting
that impact balance right.
339
00:11:33,905 --> 00:11:35,985
MAN 2: Understanding how
the real world now functions.
340
00:11:35,985 --> 00:11:38,745
MAN 3: Environmental, social
and corporate governance.
341
00:11:38,745 --> 00:11:40,785
WOMAN: How do you actually
implement that sort of thing?
342
00:11:40,785 --> 00:11:42,050
- (PROTESTERS SHOUT)
- (RADIO CRACKLES)
343
00:11:42,061 --> 00:11:44,563
- Level three secure.
- Seriously, Brian, I'm fine.
344
00:11:44,574 --> 00:11:46,094
I don't even know who
you're reporting to.
345
00:11:46,105 --> 00:11:49,031
- Copy that, Brian.
- Just don't want to take any chances.
346
00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:50,514
There seems to be even
more of them today.
347
00:11:50,525 --> 00:11:51,725
- Want me to move them on?
- No.
348
00:11:51,736 --> 00:11:53,874
- Baton charge?
- No. They've got a legal right to protest.
349
00:11:53,885 --> 00:11:55,405
I think we should just
find out what they want.
350
00:11:55,424 --> 00:11:58,064
- And then disperse them.
- Just talk to them.
351
00:11:58,547 --> 00:11:59,947
- Morning, Tony.
- Courtney.
352
00:11:59,958 --> 00:12:02,493
Quick question... when I talk
to you about an office issue,
353
00:12:02,504 --> 00:12:05,424
is that an example of having
my concerns heard and addressed?
354
00:12:05,435 --> 00:12:07,475
- What?
- I'm just doing the ESG audit.
355
00:12:07,486 --> 00:12:09,382
- I'm up to S.
- Uh, sure. Yeah.
356
00:12:09,393 --> 00:12:10,713
And can you think of a time
357
00:12:10,724 --> 00:12:13,665
when we've taken unethical
advantage of our customers?
358
00:12:13,676 --> 00:12:16,094
- We don't have customers.
- And/or stakeholders?
359
00:12:16,105 --> 00:12:17,111
Running a little late.
360
00:12:17,122 --> 00:12:18,657
- I'll tick 'rarely'.
- Okay.
361
00:12:18,668 --> 00:12:20,788
- Where'd you get this?
- Brian found it downstairs.
362
00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:22,374
And you think it could have our files?
363
00:12:22,385 --> 00:12:24,054
Let's find out. Hit the power button.
364
00:12:24,065 --> 00:12:26,253
- (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS)
- It's working!
365
00:12:26,264 --> 00:12:28,014
- Excellent.
- Where'd you find a charger?
366
00:12:28,025 --> 00:12:29,625
We used a Thunderbolt-to-Lightning.
367
00:12:29,625 --> 00:12:31,406
- Very, very frightening.
- What?
368
00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:32,826
- (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS)
- Success!
369
00:12:32,837 --> 00:12:34,479
Now we've got to stick
this in somewhere.
370
00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:35,690
Um...
371
00:12:36,098 --> 00:12:37,258
Oh.
372
00:12:37,811 --> 00:12:38,971
Super Mario.
373
00:12:38,982 --> 00:12:41,062
Might have been Tony's.
374
00:12:41,466 --> 00:12:43,025
Okay.
375
00:12:43,025 --> 00:12:44,225
(WHIRRING)
376
00:12:44,398 --> 00:12:46,705
- What's that noise?
- It's booting up.
377
00:12:46,705 --> 00:12:48,392
- What's that?
- Here we go.
378
00:12:48,403 --> 00:12:50,219
- (COMPUTER ALERT PLAYS)
- There we went.
379
00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:52,672
- I don't know what happened.
- Can you try ejecting it?
380
00:12:53,538 --> 00:12:55,075
It's stuck.
381
00:12:55,697 --> 00:12:57,534
PROTESTERS: No wind farm!
382
00:12:57,545 --> 00:12:59,985
- No wind farm!
- You know what? We can just email him.
383
00:12:59,985 --> 00:13:02,105
Oh, and, Tony, how would you quantify
384
00:13:02,105 --> 00:13:04,105
the ethical impact of our supply chains?
385
00:13:04,105 --> 00:13:05,705
- TONY: What?
- For the office audit.
386
00:13:05,705 --> 00:13:07,985
- Oh, you're doing it too.
- We don't want to fall behind.
387
00:13:07,985 --> 00:13:09,242
- We are now.
- COURTNEY: Tony?
388
00:13:09,253 --> 00:13:11,933
Would it be okay if a few of
the protesters used our bathroom?
389
00:13:11,944 --> 00:13:13,681
- TONY: What?
- The public toilets are closed.
390
00:13:13,692 --> 00:13:16,374
Oh. Sure. Oh, and that's
not how you spell 'turbine'.
391
00:13:16,385 --> 00:13:17,585
COURTNEY: Okay. I'll let them know.
392
00:13:17,585 --> 00:13:19,679
And has the Minister confirmed
this Friday's meeting?
393
00:13:19,690 --> 00:13:21,013
Still waiting to hear.
394
00:13:21,024 --> 00:13:23,529
Do we regularly donate a
percentage of our profits
395
00:13:23,540 --> 00:13:24,540
to the local community?
396
00:13:24,551 --> 00:13:26,814
- We don't make profits.
- So we're losing money?
397
00:13:26,825 --> 00:13:29,414
No. We're a government
organisation. We spend money.
398
00:13:29,425 --> 00:13:31,838
- On the local community?
- Uh, sort of.
399
00:13:32,185 --> 00:13:34,225
- I'll tick "not applicable".
- Yep.
400
00:13:38,871 --> 00:13:40,991
Okay. I think I've found how to do it.
401
00:13:41,002 --> 00:13:43,367
- The disc?
- There's this kid on YouTube.
402
00:13:43,378 --> 00:13:45,101
- He knows everything.
- Okay.
403
00:13:45,112 --> 00:13:49,426
Press control, command,
option and shift...
404
00:13:49,437 --> 00:13:50,797
- Yep.
- ... and escape.
405
00:13:50,808 --> 00:13:53,485
- I don't have enough fingers.
- There you go.
406
00:13:53,496 --> 00:13:55,475
- Nothing's happening.
- Right this way, folks.
407
00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:57,134
Keep your hands where I can see them.
408
00:13:57,145 --> 00:13:58,494
Oh, your CD drive's stuck.
409
00:13:58,505 --> 00:13:59,505
NAT: Uh, yeah.
410
00:13:59,516 --> 00:14:00,829
- Mind if I, uh...?
- Sure.
411
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,760
- Can I grab that paperclip?
- Um...
412
00:14:07,257 --> 00:14:08,517
- Oh! Oh!
- (GASPS) Wow!
413
00:14:08,528 --> 00:14:10,240
- What?!
- You're welcome.
414
00:14:10,251 --> 00:14:13,251
Sir. I'm gonna need you to
leave that paperclip there.
415
00:14:19,936 --> 00:14:21,936
- Scotty. How's it going?
- Uh... uh, yeah, yeah.
416
00:14:21,955 --> 00:14:23,075
- Almost finished.
- Oh, excellent.
417
00:14:23,086 --> 00:14:24,886
Don't forget, you've got to
send copies to the Treasury
418
00:14:24,897 --> 00:14:25,897
AND the Finance Department.
419
00:14:25,908 --> 00:14:27,612
No, I've almost finished
the office audit.
420
00:14:27,623 --> 00:14:29,374
Out of 10, how would
you rate our transparency
421
00:14:29,385 --> 00:14:30,607
surrounding ethical investment?
422
00:14:30,618 --> 00:14:31,739
- Scotty...
- I'll go eight.
423
00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:33,420
Any sign of those engineering summaries?
424
00:14:33,431 --> 00:14:34,986
Uh, yeah. The courier said
they'll be here tomorrow.
425
00:14:34,997 --> 00:14:36,920
- TONY: Have you looked?
- Through an ESG lens?
426
00:14:36,931 --> 00:14:38,851
TONY: No, have you looked for them?
It's alright. I'll do it.
427
00:14:38,862 --> 00:14:40,260
Tony, can I ask you about
428
00:14:40,271 --> 00:14:42,590
employee/employer engagement metrics?
429
00:14:42,601 --> 00:14:44,054
- No.
- Oh.
430
00:14:44,065 --> 00:14:46,042
See? This is how we fell behind.
431
00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:47,654
So, shall we try this again?
432
00:14:47,665 --> 00:14:50,105
- What if it gets stuck?
- I've got Dev's paperclip.
433
00:14:50,164 --> 00:14:52,160
- Maybe a different CD?
- How many have you got?
434
00:14:52,171 --> 00:14:53,529
Um...
435
00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:55,208
about 200.
436
00:14:55,226 --> 00:14:57,028
Hey. You think these
would be recyclable?
437
00:14:57,039 --> 00:14:58,547
- What?
- Just for the ESG audit.
438
00:14:58,558 --> 00:14:59,706
I'm still doing environmental.
439
00:14:59,717 --> 00:15:01,557
So you're telling me the
files we're looking for
440
00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:03,335
could be on any one of these discs?
441
00:15:03,346 --> 00:15:05,015
- Yep.
- This is gonna take forever.
442
00:15:05,026 --> 00:15:06,426
Don't worry. We've got an index file.
443
00:15:06,437 --> 00:15:09,197
- Oh. Where?
- It'll be one of these.
444
00:15:12,083 --> 00:15:13,636
- TONY: Hey!
- Freeze! Oh!
445
00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:15,767
Ah! Jeez! Sorry, Tony.
446
00:15:15,811 --> 00:15:17,907
Oh. I thought someone might
have breached our perimeter.
447
00:15:17,918 --> 00:15:19,914
Oh, right. Hey, have
any document parcels
448
00:15:19,924 --> 00:15:21,539
arrived for me or Scotty overnight?
449
00:15:21,550 --> 00:15:22,992
Oh, God.
450
00:15:23,071 --> 00:15:24,520
Oh, to be honest, I've been so busy,
451
00:15:24,531 --> 00:15:26,821
what with the protesters
and now this audit.
452
00:15:26,832 --> 00:15:29,785
- You too?
- Yeah. Whole-of-organisation approach.
453
00:15:29,785 --> 00:15:31,514
- Some excellent questions.
- TONY: Yep.
454
00:15:31,525 --> 00:15:33,777
"Should meetings be in person?
455
00:15:33,788 --> 00:15:36,054
"Should you be printing
out so much paper?"
456
00:15:36,065 --> 00:15:38,745
- I mean, it really makes you think.
- Hopefully about this Friday.
457
00:15:38,745 --> 00:15:39,825
BRIAN: What's Friday?
458
00:15:39,825 --> 00:15:42,185
Ministerial presentation for the NHDP.
459
00:15:42,185 --> 00:15:43,585
You were gonna set up the AV gear.
460
00:15:43,596 --> 00:15:45,047
Absolutely. (LAUGHS)
461
00:15:45,058 --> 00:15:46,258
Oh, here's an interesting one.
462
00:15:46,269 --> 00:15:48,667
"Could your department be more diverse?"
463
00:15:48,678 --> 00:15:50,758
- You're one person.
- Yes.
464
00:15:51,205 --> 00:15:52,951
I'll tick 'maybe'.
465
00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:56,345
- This is insane.
- I'm sure it'll be one of these.
466
00:15:56,345 --> 00:15:59,041
We've got notebooks from the
17th century we can still read.
467
00:15:59,052 --> 00:16:00,384
You know what we need? Documents.
468
00:16:00,395 --> 00:16:02,626
- Microsoft documents?
- No, actual physical files.
469
00:16:02,637 --> 00:16:04,077
There must be something in the archives.
470
00:16:04,088 --> 00:16:05,968
- Like on a server?
- On a shelf!
471
00:16:05,979 --> 00:16:07,861
Something capable of gathering dust.
472
00:16:07,872 --> 00:16:10,140
- So, throw these away?
- Yeah. Throw them away.
473
00:16:10,151 --> 00:16:11,457
COURTNEY: No, that's e-waste.
474
00:16:11,468 --> 00:16:12,468
Environment.
475
00:16:12,578 --> 00:16:14,138
- You should be recycling.
- (SNAPS FINGERS)
476
00:16:14,149 --> 00:16:15,332
Good thinking.
477
00:16:15,343 --> 00:16:17,213
MAN: "Ooh! Our company has ESG!"
478
00:16:17,224 --> 00:16:18,744
WOMAN: Is it a case
of all hands on deck?
479
00:16:18,755 --> 00:16:21,243
MAN: Companies must
demonstrate their moral virtue.
480
00:16:21,254 --> 00:16:23,058
- WOMAN: Treat everyone with respect.
- MAN 2: We can do better.
481
00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,749
WOMAN 2: All of those
things are good for business.
482
00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,067
(PROTESTERS SHOUT)
483
00:16:26,078 --> 00:16:27,773
I reckon there's even
more of them today.
484
00:16:27,784 --> 00:16:29,507
- Joan brought her sister.
- Oh.
485
00:16:29,518 --> 00:16:31,318
And that's not how
you spell 'moratorium'.
486
00:16:31,329 --> 00:16:34,073
I'll let them know. Oh,
and they made us scones.
487
00:16:34,084 --> 00:16:35,924
- Really?
- To thank Courtney for the batteries.
488
00:16:35,935 --> 00:16:39,054
(LAUGHS) Hey, do we know exactly
which of our wind farms it is?
489
00:16:39,065 --> 00:16:40,825
- (SIRENS CHIRP)
- I got distracted by the scones.
490
00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:43,237
- Is that police?
- Oh. Brian just radioed.
491
00:16:43,248 --> 00:16:45,345
- Apparently, someone was jostled.
- TONY: Jostled?
492
00:16:45,356 --> 00:16:48,020
- They don't seem violent.
- No, someone jostled THEM.
493
00:16:48,031 --> 00:16:49,574
What? Do we know who?
494
00:16:49,585 --> 00:16:52,505
How hard can it be getting
into your own building?
495
00:16:52,505 --> 00:16:54,545
Come on. We've got a meeting.
496
00:16:56,425 --> 00:16:59,025
MONIQUE: Well, I think this
has been a valuable exercise.
497
00:16:59,025 --> 00:17:00,265
RHONDA: Couldn't agree more.
498
00:17:00,265 --> 00:17:02,393
MONIQUE: Some very
interesting staff feedback.
499
00:17:02,404 --> 00:17:05,654
- Environment ranks poorly.
- What's the issue? Plastic straws?
500
00:17:05,665 --> 00:17:06,898
MONIQUE: If only it were that simple.
501
00:17:06,909 --> 00:17:08,029
- Hm.
- MONIQUE: Social.
502
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,894
- Oh, where do I start?
- With an example.
503
00:17:09,905 --> 00:17:11,570
- I could give you dozens.
- Mm-hm.
504
00:17:11,581 --> 00:17:15,300
Hayden mentioned a clear lack of
meaningful workplace engagement.
505
00:17:15,311 --> 00:17:17,294
- Bookkeeper Hayden.
- He works from home.
506
00:17:17,305 --> 00:17:19,917
- There's a sense of exclusion.
- He chooses to work from home.
507
00:17:19,928 --> 00:17:21,317
MONIQUE: Governance is a real concern.
508
00:17:21,328 --> 00:17:23,841
There appears to be little or
no protection for whistleblowers.
509
00:17:23,852 --> 00:17:24,875
I didn't know we had any.
510
00:17:24,886 --> 00:17:26,534
Perhaps they're too
frightened to speak up.
511
00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:28,612
- About what?
- The plastic straws?
512
00:17:28,938 --> 00:17:30,498
Monique, I'm in the final stages
513
00:17:30,509 --> 00:17:33,309
of getting a massive
construction project locked down,
514
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,474
- hopefully funded.
- Interesting. This could be perfect.
515
00:17:35,485 --> 00:17:37,233
- Perfect for what?
- Is this about Hayden?
516
00:17:37,244 --> 00:17:38,851
MONIQUE: The next stage of our audit.
517
00:17:38,862 --> 00:17:42,234
What if we were to run an ESG
lens across this whole project?
518
00:17:42,245 --> 00:17:44,485
- See how compliant you are.
- TONY: No.
519
00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:46,262
- MONIQUE: I'm sensing some resistance.
- Yeah, I said no.
520
00:17:46,273 --> 00:17:48,094
Tony, no-one is pointing
the finger at you.
521
00:17:48,105 --> 00:17:49,945
I am. He's dragging his feet again.
522
00:17:49,956 --> 00:17:52,036
I want you to see
this as an opportunity.
523
00:17:52,047 --> 00:17:55,127
I'm trying to get 1.000km of
interstate highway divided.
524
00:17:55,138 --> 00:17:56,738
And that is a noble goal.
525
00:17:56,851 --> 00:17:58,651
But what's the first thing
people are going to ask?
526
00:17:58,662 --> 00:18:00,462
"How soon can you do another 1.000km?"
527
00:18:00,473 --> 00:18:02,186
"What's your ESG compliance?"
528
00:18:02,197 --> 00:18:03,280
Wood for the trees.
529
00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:06,000
Um, what practically will
this accreditation process...
530
00:18:06,011 --> 00:18:07,331
uh, how will it help us?
531
00:18:07,342 --> 00:18:09,224
It'll stop us from falling behind.
532
00:18:09,235 --> 00:18:11,595
Tony, it's a measure, a mirror,
533
00:18:11,606 --> 00:18:12,846
a way of looking at yourself
534
00:18:12,857 --> 00:18:14,977
and identifying where
you're falling short.
535
00:18:14,988 --> 00:18:18,148
So we get ESG-compliant on a
project we may never complete?
536
00:18:18,192 --> 00:18:19,623
It's part of the completion.
537
00:18:19,634 --> 00:18:21,814
- You follow that?
- I'm still thinking about Hayden.
538
00:18:22,072 --> 00:18:24,707
Why is there a policeman? Why
is that man pointing at Rhonda?
539
00:18:24,718 --> 00:18:25,878
Hm?
540
00:18:28,458 --> 00:18:29,707
Oh! I did it!
541
00:18:29,718 --> 00:18:30,798
How did I do that?
542
00:18:30,809 --> 00:18:32,386
Okay. Bit of a breakthrough.
543
00:18:32,397 --> 00:18:33,717
- Yep?
- Take a look.
544
00:18:33,728 --> 00:18:35,934
- Oh!
- You said, "Change your screensaver."
545
00:18:35,945 --> 00:18:38,185
Not to that! What's the breakthrough?
546
00:18:38,185 --> 00:18:39,413
ASHAN: Well, turns out
there was a book written
547
00:18:39,424 --> 00:18:41,494
about the early days of
the Snowy Hydro Scheme.
548
00:18:41,505 --> 00:18:42,650
"Taming the Wild,
549
00:18:42,661 --> 00:18:45,133
a detailed history of proceedings
leading to the establishment
550
00:18:45,144 --> 00:18:47,768
- of the Snowy Mountain Hydro-Electric Authority."
- Catchy title.
551
00:18:47,779 --> 00:18:49,572
It's bound to tell us who
first came up with the name.
552
00:18:49,583 --> 00:18:51,505
- Can you download a copy?
- ASHAN: Sure.
553
00:18:52,958 --> 00:18:54,318
Ah! It's not digital.
554
00:18:54,329 --> 00:18:56,929
- Then we'll order one.
- Sure.
555
00:18:58,085 --> 00:18:59,542
Ah! Out of stock.
556
00:18:59,553 --> 00:19:00,806
- Are you kidding?
- ASHAN: Hang on.
557
00:19:00,817 --> 00:19:03,060
- There's a copy in a public library.
- Let's borrow it.
558
00:19:03,071 --> 00:19:04,391
ASHAN: Sure.
559
00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:07,674
Ah! Not for loan.
560
00:19:07,685 --> 00:19:09,314
- Can you stop leaving gaps?
- ASHAN: Sorry.
561
00:19:09,325 --> 00:19:11,925
Alright. Then let's go there in person.
562
00:19:12,051 --> 00:19:13,211
Bit of a drive.
563
00:19:13,398 --> 00:19:14,954
- Where is it?
- Cooma.
564
00:19:14,965 --> 00:19:17,565
I'm not sure if my e-bike is up to it.
565
00:19:17,624 --> 00:19:20,265
TONY: Katie? Why are the
protesters in our kitchen?
566
00:19:20,265 --> 00:19:21,987
- Have they stormed the building?
- No.
567
00:19:21,998 --> 00:19:23,646
Courtney let them in to use the kettle.
568
00:19:23,657 --> 00:19:25,193
- You want me to disperse them?
- No.
569
00:19:25,204 --> 00:19:26,630
- We need a hard line.
- Yep.
570
00:19:26,641 --> 00:19:27,681
They brought us more scones.
571
00:19:27,692 --> 00:19:29,261
- Beauty!
- What happened to hard line?
572
00:19:29,272 --> 00:19:32,192
And, Tony, I asked them which
wind farm they're protesting about.
573
00:19:32,203 --> 00:19:34,323
- It's on the south coast.
- Yeah. South coast of what?
574
00:19:34,385 --> 00:19:35,978
- I'll go check.
- BRIAN: I'll escort you.
575
00:19:35,989 --> 00:19:38,531
- Did they bring any jam?
- Oh, yeah, homemade.
576
00:19:40,197 --> 00:19:41,441
Hard line.
577
00:19:43,378 --> 00:19:46,258
Alrighty. Let's get started.
578
00:19:46,457 --> 00:19:47,699
- Sorry?
- (WHISPERS) We're not here.
579
00:19:47,710 --> 00:19:49,070
- You are.
- Carry on.
580
00:19:49,683 --> 00:19:51,907
- Petra, how'd you go?
- PETRA: We're looking pretty well covered
581
00:19:51,918 --> 00:19:53,773
for the mid-level civil
construction roles.
582
00:19:53,784 --> 00:19:56,480
I'm just waiting on detailed
projections of other skill areas.
583
00:19:56,491 --> 00:19:58,291
So... concrete, surveying...
584
00:19:58,302 --> 00:19:59,854
- Can I just come in here?
- You have.
585
00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,853
The people you're talking
about, building this road...
586
00:20:01,864 --> 00:20:03,813
- Highway.
- ... where would they come from?
587
00:20:03,824 --> 00:20:04,948
Oh. Stuart?
588
00:20:04,959 --> 00:20:07,313
We've partnered with several
large labour-hire agencies.
589
00:20:07,324 --> 00:20:10,654
- It's a mix of CFMEU and AW...
- MONIQUE: But socio-economically.
590
00:20:10,665 --> 00:20:13,043
- What?
- Is there a risk that we could be exploiting them?
591
00:20:13,054 --> 00:20:15,351
- Hmm. It's a good question.
- This is where the framework helps.
592
00:20:15,362 --> 00:20:17,420
Exploitative? Have you seen
the workplace agreements?
593
00:20:17,431 --> 00:20:18,591
MONIQUE: Tony. Tone.
594
00:20:18,611 --> 00:20:20,574
TONY: We've got union
officials ready to pull the plug
595
00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:23,016
if the temperature hits 30
degrees, 8-day fortnights.
596
00:20:23,027 --> 00:20:25,574
I've got kids with stop/go signs on
quarter of a million dollars a year
597
00:20:25,585 --> 00:20:28,324
- plus bonuses.
- Just clarifying. Please, continue.
598
00:20:28,358 --> 00:20:29,607
Heavy haulage will be staggered...
599
00:20:29,618 --> 00:20:31,458
Actually, there was another
thing. This road of yours.
600
00:20:31,469 --> 00:20:33,869
- Highway.
- What will it be made of?
601
00:20:34,131 --> 00:20:35,307
Oh. Kirsty?
602
00:20:35,318 --> 00:20:36,440
KIRSTY: Deep-strength asphalt.
603
00:20:36,451 --> 00:20:38,971
On a cement stabilised
granular sub-base.
604
00:20:38,982 --> 00:20:40,546
- Interesting.
- It is, yeah.
605
00:20:40,557 --> 00:20:42,532
- Ever considered recycled materials?
- TONY: No.
606
00:20:42,543 --> 00:20:44,363
- Open mind, Tony.
- Rubber?
607
00:20:44,374 --> 00:20:46,209
- It wouldn't work.
- I've read about it working.
608
00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:48,647
- Yeah, on Danish bike paths.
- See what happened there?
609
00:20:48,658 --> 00:20:50,371
- Loud and clear.
- Unnecessary aggression.
610
00:20:50,382 --> 00:20:52,178
- Mmm.
- This speaks to governance.
611
00:20:52,188 --> 00:20:54,309
- G.
- MONIQUE: Not letting other voices be heard.
612
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,587
- No.
- I mean, why isn't Hayden here?
613
00:20:55,598 --> 00:20:58,399
Hayden?! He works from
home. He's not an engineer.
614
00:20:58,410 --> 00:20:59,973
I wouldn't be putting labels on people.
615
00:20:59,984 --> 00:21:02,704
Sorry, he doesn't
identify as an engineer.
616
00:21:02,715 --> 00:21:03,715
(SIGHS)
617
00:21:03,831 --> 00:21:06,312
I wonder if we might
have a word in private.
618
00:21:15,837 --> 00:21:18,268
- ASHAN: I think we're lost.
- What does the map say?
619
00:21:18,286 --> 00:21:20,387
- "No reception."
- NAT: No, the map!
620
00:21:20,398 --> 00:21:21,998
- This!
- ASHAN: Oh.
621
00:21:23,678 --> 00:21:25,518
How do you use it?
622
00:21:26,844 --> 00:21:27,844
(SIGHS)
623
00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:29,338
Alright. I'm sorry.
624
00:21:29,349 --> 00:21:31,146
- Tony, we're not blaming you.
- I am.
625
00:21:31,157 --> 00:21:32,753
But there's some
definite red flags here.
626
00:21:32,764 --> 00:21:34,300
Monique, I've spent
years putting together
627
00:21:34,311 --> 00:21:35,951
a federated infrastructure system.
628
00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:37,962
I'm this close to getting
it across the line.
629
00:21:37,973 --> 00:21:40,613
And you're microdosing my office on ESG.
630
00:21:40,624 --> 00:21:42,277
- What have you got against inclusion?
- What?
631
00:21:42,288 --> 00:21:43,860
What have you got
against sustainability?
632
00:21:43,871 --> 00:21:45,927
- Are you a climate denier?
- You want sustainability?
633
00:21:45,938 --> 00:21:47,260
On this one project, I've got
634
00:21:47,271 --> 00:21:49,433
seven different environmental
impact statements.
635
00:21:49,444 --> 00:21:50,444
Inclusivity?
636
00:21:50,455 --> 00:21:52,920
There's already 87 volumes
of workplace regulations,
637
00:21:52,931 --> 00:21:55,988
non-discrimination legislation,
international labour treaties.
638
00:21:55,999 --> 00:21:56,999
- There's that tone again.
- Yeah.
639
00:21:57,010 --> 00:21:58,410
There's that lack of perspective again.
640
00:21:58,421 --> 00:22:00,153
I can't help but
observe that you do have
641
00:22:00,164 --> 00:22:02,681
a very male-centric power
structure operating here.
642
00:22:02,692 --> 00:22:04,604
- Your point?
- I wonder whether someone in a
643
00:22:04,614 --> 00:22:06,100
leadership role who was female,
644
00:22:06,111 --> 00:22:07,680
or who identified as female,
645
00:22:07,691 --> 00:22:09,127
might bring a softer touch.
646
00:22:09,138 --> 00:22:10,418
I'm not sure that's gonna matter...
647
00:22:10,429 --> 00:22:11,691
RHONDA: Of course they would!
648
00:22:11,702 --> 00:22:13,681
All that aggression. It's toxic.
649
00:22:19,217 --> 00:22:20,417
ASHAN: Shields.
650
00:22:20,428 --> 00:22:22,708
Smith. Sneddon. Sweeney.
651
00:22:23,218 --> 00:22:24,364
- Here.
- Oh. Where?
652
00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:26,095
- Well, this is where it should be.
- You're kidding me.
653
00:22:26,106 --> 00:22:27,226
Maybe someone borrowed it.
654
00:22:27,237 --> 00:22:29,248
- You said it's not for loan.
- Or stole it.
655
00:22:29,259 --> 00:22:31,639
Who would steal a boring book
about the early days of
656
00:22:31,649 --> 00:22:33,849
- the Snowy River Hydro Sc...
- Shh!
657
00:22:33,892 --> 00:22:35,012
NAT: Sorry.
658
00:22:37,045 --> 00:22:38,725
So, what now?
659
00:22:38,845 --> 00:22:39,870
(SIGHS)
660
00:22:40,004 --> 00:22:42,684
(PROTESTERS SHOUT)
661
00:22:45,125 --> 00:22:46,980
Tony? The Minister's just arrived.
662
00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:48,019
Oh.
663
00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:49,950
Oh, this one. That's it.
664
00:22:49,997 --> 00:22:51,806
I am looking forward to today, Tony.
665
00:22:51,817 --> 00:22:53,054
Well, hold your fire, Minister,
666
00:22:53,065 --> 00:22:54,774
but there is definitely some good news.
667
00:22:54,785 --> 00:22:56,293
So I've heard. Quite a bit of progress.
668
00:22:56,304 --> 00:22:57,931
Well, I'll let you be the judge.
669
00:22:57,942 --> 00:22:59,182
(LAUGHS)
670
00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:00,665
Set to go? TONY: Yep.
671
00:23:00,676 --> 00:23:03,600
- Katie, the, uh, briefing documents.
- We're trying paperless.
672
00:23:03,611 --> 00:23:05,014
- The MSG lens.
- TONY: What?!
673
00:23:05,025 --> 00:23:06,945
But Brian's got it all on the screen.
674
00:23:06,945 --> 00:23:08,156
Okay. Uh... alright.
675
00:23:08,167 --> 00:23:11,088
Well, um, let me take you
through an update of the NHDP,
676
00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:13,863
where we are with the states,
the territories and, of course...
677
00:23:13,874 --> 00:23:15,316
- BRAD: ESG compliance.
- What was that?
678
00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:16,880
Apologies, Tony. I interrupted you.
679
00:23:16,891 --> 00:23:19,620
- Um... and, of course...
- The Expenditure Review Committee.
680
00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:22,592
- ESG? Where did that come from?
- I'm hearing whispers. It's all good.
681
00:23:22,603 --> 00:23:25,093
I guess it's just not our
main focus at this point.
682
00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:28,654
Sure. Sure, sure. Just, it speaks
to where we're trying to up our game.
683
00:23:28,665 --> 00:23:30,104
TONY: Sure. Yeah. Well, how about I whip
684
00:23:30,114 --> 00:23:33,086
through the NHDP,
current state of play? Brian?
685
00:23:34,116 --> 00:23:35,556
BRIAN: Oh. Um... hang on.
686
00:23:35,567 --> 00:23:36,616
TONY: Yep.
687
00:23:36,937 --> 00:23:38,577
Wrong folder, I think.
688
00:23:40,018 --> 00:23:41,193
Taming the Wild.
689
00:23:41,204 --> 00:23:42,879
NAT: It doesn't appear
to be on the shelf.
690
00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:44,076
Let me take a look.
691
00:23:44,087 --> 00:23:45,820
That's the sort of
cable we were chasing.
692
00:23:45,831 --> 00:23:48,252
Ah! Here we go.
It seems to have been archived.
693
00:23:48,263 --> 00:23:49,503
- Archived?
- Mmm.
694
00:23:49,514 --> 00:23:51,380
We take them off the shelf
to protect them from...
695
00:23:51,391 --> 00:23:52,551
- Readers?
- Damage.
696
00:23:52,562 --> 00:23:54,922
Of course. Is there a chance
we could take a quick look?
697
00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:56,934
Archives are only open on Monday.
698
00:23:56,945 --> 00:23:59,451
- You may have to wait a couple of days.
- Days?
699
00:23:59,753 --> 00:24:00,753
- What now?
- (INAUDIBLE)
700
00:24:00,764 --> 00:24:02,480
Just looking up things to do in Cooma.
701
00:24:02,491 --> 00:24:03,931
We are not staying in Coo...
702
00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:05,093
- Excuse me.
- Mmm.
703
00:24:05,104 --> 00:24:07,756
Is there a chance you could
send us an excerpt from the book?
704
00:24:07,767 --> 00:24:09,917
- Oh, could be copyright issues.
- NAT: Not the whole thing.
705
00:24:09,928 --> 00:24:11,568
We're only interested in
the first few chapters,
706
00:24:11,579 --> 00:24:13,426
about the formation of the Hydro Scheme.
707
00:24:13,437 --> 00:24:15,223
- I'll see what I can do.
- Thank you.
708
00:24:15,234 --> 00:24:16,653
There's a trout fishing museum.
709
00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:19,584
Okay. So we come all the
way back to the org chart.
710
00:24:19,824 --> 00:24:21,814
So, our assessment, tick.
711
00:24:21,825 --> 00:24:24,800
States and territories agree
to the allocation formula. Tick.
712
00:24:24,811 --> 00:24:26,779
In principle, ministerial support.
713
00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:29,260
- Big tick.
- ERC, cabinet, etc.
714
00:24:29,271 --> 00:24:31,734
Question, how far
are we from announcing?
715
00:24:31,745 --> 00:24:33,905
The whole Highway Duplication Program?
716
00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:35,341
- BRAD: Yeah.
- Well, it sort of depends.
717
00:24:35,352 --> 00:24:36,721
And if it's ESG-compliant.
718
00:24:36,732 --> 00:24:38,934
Well... we won't know
that it's ESG-compliant.
719
00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:41,345
- She's right. We ARE falling behind.
- Sorry, who was right?
720
00:24:41,345 --> 00:24:44,301
- Tony, this is wonderful work, and well done.
- TONY: But?
721
00:24:44,312 --> 00:24:47,054
But are we better off,
rather than the sugar hit
722
00:24:47,065 --> 00:24:49,230
- of announcing a national highway thing...
- Not sure that it's a sugar hit.
723
00:24:49,241 --> 00:24:51,071
... are we better off getting all of our
724
00:24:51,081 --> 00:24:52,698
ESG ducks in a row then coming back?
725
00:24:52,709 --> 00:24:54,309
Isn't that getting the
cart before the horse?
726
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,580
- No.
- I'm not even sure there's a horse.
727
00:24:56,591 --> 00:24:57,591
What about the ducks?
728
00:24:57,602 --> 00:25:00,122
- Why are we using a horse and cart?
- Oh, we ARE falling behind.
729
00:25:00,133 --> 00:25:01,413
(SCOTT SIGHS)
730
00:25:01,424 --> 00:25:02,426
Um...
731
00:25:09,118 --> 00:25:12,038
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
732
00:25:15,385 --> 00:25:16,745
NAT: Oh!
733
00:25:16,997 --> 00:25:18,637
Parcel from the Cooma Public Library.
734
00:25:18,648 --> 00:25:20,048
Yes! Our book.
735
00:25:20,059 --> 00:25:21,739
And can you make sure
to recycle that post bag?
736
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:22,830
Sure.
737
00:25:22,841 --> 00:25:24,681
Ta-da!
738
00:25:24,692 --> 00:25:26,465
- What the hell?
- What is it?
739
00:25:26,465 --> 00:25:28,312
- DEV: Oh, it's microfiche.
- What?
740
00:25:28,323 --> 00:25:30,460
It's how we used to store
books and newspapers.
741
00:25:30,471 --> 00:25:33,106
There's stuff written on it.
You reckon it's what we're after?
742
00:25:33,117 --> 00:25:34,352
I guess.
743
00:25:34,363 --> 00:25:37,029
- What do we plug it into?
- Dev?
744
00:25:37,180 --> 00:25:39,934
- Oh, THAT south coast.
- That's the wind farm.
745
00:25:39,945 --> 00:25:41,945
- We're not building it.
- We're backing down?
746
00:25:41,945 --> 00:25:43,856
No, no. That's a state
government project.
747
00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:45,427
- So nothing to do with us?
- No.
748
00:25:45,438 --> 00:25:47,746
So where's the state
infrastructure office?
749
00:25:47,757 --> 00:25:50,317
Uh... it's that building.
750
00:25:50,492 --> 00:25:52,030
I'll let them know.
751
00:25:52,451 --> 00:25:54,624
- When do we want it?
- Now!
752
00:25:54,945 --> 00:25:55,945
There.
753
00:25:56,191 --> 00:25:58,040
"At the meeting's end,
a formal declaration
754
00:25:58,050 --> 00:25:59,794
was made by the engineer-in-chief
755
00:25:59,805 --> 00:26:02,134
for the formation of the Snowy
Mountain Hydro-Electricity Scheme."
756
00:26:02,145 --> 00:26:04,345
"The chief engineer, working
for the Australian government..."
757
00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:06,480
- So we own the phrase.
- MAN: Terribly sorry.
758
00:26:06,491 --> 00:26:08,371
The museum closes in five minutes.
759
00:26:08,391 --> 00:26:09,951
All good.
760
00:26:10,745 --> 00:26:12,736
Right. How to get this out now?
761
00:26:25,145 --> 00:26:27,625
(INAUDIBLE)
762
00:26:29,071 --> 00:26:30,267
What do we want?
763
00:26:30,278 --> 00:26:31,414
No wind farm!
764
00:26:31,425 --> 00:26:33,435
- When do we want it?
- Now!
765
00:26:33,446 --> 00:26:35,794
- What do we want?
- No wind farm!
766
00:26:35,805 --> 00:26:37,989
- When do we want it?
- Now!
767
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:42,589
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