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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,770 In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:12,745 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:14,577 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:14,648 --> 00:00:17,482 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:17,551 --> 00:00:19,247 These are their stories. 6 00:00:20,721 --> 00:00:22,917 You the cable man? All day. 7 00:00:22,990 --> 00:00:23,990 Thank goodness. 8 00:00:24,057 --> 00:00:28,085 Mrs. Lerner was home all weekend with Mr. Lerner and no food channel. 9 00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:29,527 Yeah, well, she's not home now. 10 00:00:29,596 --> 00:00:31,030 She probably didn't hear the bell. 11 00:00:31,098 --> 00:00:33,294 How many times did you ring? Enough. 12 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:36,599 That's what I like, a man anxious to do his job. 13 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:38,605 That's me. Mr. Anxious. 14 00:00:40,173 --> 00:00:42,802 Good day, Mrs. Lerner. Coming up. 15 00:00:43,644 --> 00:00:44,703 Hello. 16 00:00:45,812 --> 00:00:46,973 Mrs. Lerner. 17 00:00:47,948 --> 00:00:50,543 The cable man's here. Mrs. Lerner? 18 00:00:55,455 --> 00:00:58,015 Vics are Eileen and David Lerner. Maid found them. 19 00:00:58,091 --> 00:01:00,890 You got a point of entry? Broken window in the kitchen. 20 00:01:00,961 --> 00:01:03,795 We got a blood trail from the bedroom, takes him out the same way. 21 00:01:03,864 --> 00:01:05,924 It's nice and tidy. Anything missing? 22 00:01:05,999 --> 00:01:08,434 We're still doing an inventory with the maid. 23 00:01:08,502 --> 00:01:10,164 These people lived here alone? 24 00:01:10,237 --> 00:01:11,514 Maid said they moved in last year. 25 00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:13,905 They got a daughter that lives uptown. She's on her way. 26 00:01:13,974 --> 00:01:14,998 Thanks. 27 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:20,176 Nice color scheme. Didn't eat breakfast, did you? 28 00:01:20,247 --> 00:01:23,274 Couple of dozen stab wounds each and still counting. 29 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:25,649 Judging by the blood glutting around the male vic's head, 30 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:28,279 I'd say they've been dead at least 24 hours. 31 00:01:28,722 --> 00:01:30,850 Still tucked in. Didn't know what hit her. 32 00:01:30,924 --> 00:01:32,722 Yeah, well, he's not so lucky. 33 00:01:32,793 --> 00:01:35,353 Stab wounds, both hands, through and through. 34 00:01:36,229 --> 00:01:39,961 So the wife's attacked first. He wakes up, tries to fight the guy... 35 00:01:43,537 --> 00:01:46,701 "David and Eileen. Twenty-five years of joy." 36 00:01:47,307 --> 00:01:49,037 Till death did them part. 37 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:42,190 Twenty-five years and they're still sleeping in the same bed. 38 00:02:42,262 --> 00:02:44,925 Then some animal comes along and does this. 39 00:02:45,565 --> 00:02:46,965 You find the murder weapon? 40 00:02:47,034 --> 00:02:51,028 Searched the house, the yard, the alley and two blocks four ways. Nothing. 41 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:54,334 Looks like a 10-inch, single-edge knife did it. 42 00:02:54,408 --> 00:02:56,206 Weapon of choice at Thanksgiving. 43 00:02:56,276 --> 00:02:59,144 The set in the kitchen was missing a carving knife. 44 00:02:59,312 --> 00:03:01,281 So he entered the house unarmed? 45 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:03,408 He didn't know the Lerners were gonna be home. 46 00:03:03,483 --> 00:03:05,281 Once he got inside he heard a noise upstairs 47 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:07,150 and decided to do something about it. 48 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:09,780 Did he help himself to anything else? No. 49 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,984 Jewelry, cash, silver settings. 50 00:03:12,793 --> 00:03:14,421 They're all present and accounted for. 51 00:03:14,494 --> 00:03:16,725 I'm not getting a read on this one. 52 00:03:16,797 --> 00:03:19,824 If he's there to kill them, why enter the house unarmed? 53 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,131 If it's burglary, why leave empty-handed? 54 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:26,071 Well, maybe butchering the Lerners tired him out, or he was in a hurry. 55 00:03:26,339 --> 00:03:28,365 Well, he had time to freshen up. 56 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:29,902 According to Forensics, 57 00:03:29,976 --> 00:03:32,502 they found blood mixed with water in the kitchen sink. 58 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:34,514 - Any hits on prints? - No, nothing. 59 00:03:34,581 --> 00:03:38,040 Besides the Lerners and their maid, we got 38 unknowns. 60 00:03:38,118 --> 00:03:40,849 Thirty-eight? They must've been a popular couple. 61 00:03:40,921 --> 00:03:43,413 Yeah, with carpenters, painters and plumbers. 62 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:45,425 They were fixing up the house. 63 00:03:45,559 --> 00:03:48,085 But here's the real deal, 64 00:03:48,161 --> 00:03:51,825 partial right thumbprint on the headboard in Mrs. Lerner's blood. 65 00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:56,460 It matches the prints found near the broken window. 66 00:03:56,536 --> 00:03:59,028 So we get prints from the workers and the maid's family, 67 00:03:59,106 --> 00:04:00,904 and see if any of them match up. 68 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:04,843 And check back with Forensics, maybe this guy's MO will tell the story. 69 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:08,881 Lady went first. 70 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:11,851 The angle of the wounds suggests he was on the bed, straddling her. 71 00:04:11,918 --> 00:04:15,184 He hit all the major landmarks, stomach, kidneys, liver, heart. 72 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:16,699 That's about as deliberate as it gets. 73 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:19,158 And how. This one goes off the gruesome meter. 74 00:04:19,226 --> 00:04:21,923 See this blood-spatter pattern above the headboard? 75 00:04:21,995 --> 00:04:25,193 That's the cast off of a knife moving hard and fast. 76 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:27,928 Thirty five at bats, and he never missed his target. 77 00:04:28,001 --> 00:04:30,732 Great, we'll make him the MVP. He earned it. 78 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:34,735 Struggling in the dark with his victims, and he never hits the bed? 79 00:04:34,975 --> 00:04:36,671 Guy knew what he wanted. 80 00:04:37,477 --> 00:04:39,503 I'm getting married next summer. 81 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,676 I can't believe they won't be there. 82 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:46,084 You have any idea who'd want to hurt your parents? 83 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:49,088 I can't imagine anyone would. 84 00:04:49,556 --> 00:04:51,855 Everyone who ever met them loved them. 85 00:04:52,559 --> 00:04:56,291 Well, we all want to think that about our parents, but it's not always realistic. 86 00:04:56,363 --> 00:04:59,993 I was born and raised in this city. I know what people are like. 87 00:05:00,901 --> 00:05:02,631 My parents were different. 88 00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:05,504 Even the nicest people can make enemies. 89 00:05:06,106 --> 00:05:07,165 We have to ask this, 90 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,438 did your parents ever gamble or have any financial problems? 91 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:11,876 Does it look like they did? 92 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:15,245 Sometimes these fixer-uppers can drain a bank book pretty fast. 93 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,126 They could've borrowed money from the wrong people. 94 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:19,984 No, they bought this house because it needed work. 95 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:21,783 It was their dream house. 96 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:24,752 Since the day they moved in here last year, they spent every minute 97 00:05:24,825 --> 00:05:27,727 restoring every piece of tile, every doorknob. 98 00:05:27,794 --> 00:05:29,956 Sounds like a full-time job. Were they retired? 99 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:33,194 They own... Owned a small ad agency. 100 00:05:33,700 --> 00:05:35,498 Pharmaceutical advertising. 101 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:43,075 We've had no bomb threats, no letters, not even a phone call. 102 00:05:43,143 --> 00:05:45,612 Who the hell gets worked up over cold medicines? 103 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:47,477 Didn't some drug company get in trouble 104 00:05:47,547 --> 00:05:50,745 because they had the wrong number of stars in their logo? 105 00:05:50,817 --> 00:05:54,618 Some religious fanatics spread rumors about Satanism. 106 00:05:54,721 --> 00:05:58,021 But that was years ago, and that company is not one of our accounts. 107 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:00,583 Well, how about a disgruntled employee? 108 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:02,891 Anybody complain about their Christmas bonus? 109 00:06:02,963 --> 00:06:06,525 Eileen and David treated their employees very well. 110 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,263 Sounds like Santa's workshop. They never had to fire anybody? 111 00:06:09,336 --> 00:06:12,966 Since this agency opened, only two people have left against their will. 112 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:16,032 One died and the other was deported by the INS. 113 00:06:16,109 --> 00:06:18,908 And Eileen went to Washington to stop that. 114 00:06:19,346 --> 00:06:22,612 Well, no disrespect, but they sound a little too good to be true. 115 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:25,379 I can think of only one person who might agree. 116 00:06:26,253 --> 00:06:27,414 Bob Frankel. 117 00:06:27,954 --> 00:06:29,889 Finally. What did they do to Bob? 118 00:06:29,956 --> 00:06:33,188 He was partners with Eileen and David before they broke away. 119 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:36,594 They took Symtac, the primary account, and started this agency. 120 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:39,223 Well, that must've hurt. Did Frankel take it in stride? 121 00:06:39,499 --> 00:06:42,367 I doubt it. He went bankrupt. 122 00:06:43,036 --> 00:06:47,098 Oh, yeah. I have fond memories of those days, Detectives. 123 00:06:47,941 --> 00:06:49,705 Eileen and David left me in ruins. 124 00:06:49,776 --> 00:06:52,575 I'm just now crawling out from under chapter seven. 125 00:06:52,646 --> 00:06:55,013 Yeah, you could say I would have liked to have killed them. 126 00:06:55,081 --> 00:06:57,493 If you're trying to clear yourself in a murder investigation, 127 00:06:57,517 --> 00:06:59,145 you're not going about it the right way. 128 00:06:59,219 --> 00:07:02,678 I don't mind telling you how I feel because I didn't kill them. 129 00:07:02,923 --> 00:07:04,915 Look, what they did to me was the best thing 130 00:07:04,991 --> 00:07:06,102 that could've happened to me. 131 00:07:06,126 --> 00:07:09,619 It made me realize how much I really hated the advertising game. 132 00:07:09,696 --> 00:07:11,927 Whatever anger I felt, I turned it into this. 133 00:07:11,998 --> 00:07:14,399 Yeah, well, some people never learn to forgive and forget. 134 00:07:14,467 --> 00:07:18,734 So, just for the hell of it, where were you last Saturday night at 1:00 a.m.? 135 00:07:18,838 --> 00:07:19,897 Kenya. 136 00:07:19,973 --> 00:07:23,171 I'm developing a private blend for my Gen X crowd. 137 00:07:23,643 --> 00:07:25,578 And I call it Java Jive. 138 00:07:28,648 --> 00:07:30,173 Latent ran that bloody thumbprint 139 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:33,243 against everyone known to have been in that house in the past year. 140 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,344 They got nothing. 141 00:07:34,421 --> 00:07:36,356 You run it against the short list of enemies? 142 00:07:36,423 --> 00:07:39,052 The Lerners don't have enemies. These people were saints. 143 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:41,458 The only guy they ever screwed thinks they did him a favor. 144 00:07:41,528 --> 00:07:43,928 You're saying someone picked their name out of the phone book 145 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:45,057 and dropped in on them? 146 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:49,227 It happens. Some nut-job forgets to wear his aluminum-foil hat one morning. 147 00:07:49,302 --> 00:07:51,347 All of a sudden, voices in his head start telling him 148 00:07:51,371 --> 00:07:53,636 to go ring doorbells and stab people. 149 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:55,938 Well, I don't like unsolved mysteries, 150 00:07:56,009 --> 00:07:58,069 so before we hand it over to Robert Stack... 151 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,943 We know. We know. Yeah, walk through it one more time. 152 00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:07,115 All right. Forensics says our guy was standing over her, 153 00:08:07,187 --> 00:08:09,622 and that she went first. They're asleep. 154 00:08:10,256 --> 00:08:13,385 Does she see him? Does she scream? She was still tucked in. 155 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:18,023 So our guy leans over, and he leaves a right thumbprint on the headboard. 156 00:08:18,098 --> 00:08:19,566 That probably makes him a lefty. 157 00:08:19,632 --> 00:08:22,192 Husband wakes up. They fight. The husband loses. 158 00:08:22,268 --> 00:08:24,032 Okay, they're both dead. 159 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:26,739 Okay, so now what does he do? 160 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,499 He doesn't steal anything. He goes downstairs and washes up. 161 00:08:34,414 --> 00:08:37,282 I'm sorry, am I in the way here? No, no, not at all. 162 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:38,627 This isn't gonna take very long, 163 00:08:38,651 --> 00:08:40,463 but maybe you'd rather not have to listen to this. 164 00:08:40,487 --> 00:08:41,580 It's okay. 165 00:08:42,155 --> 00:08:46,217 All right. So, he walks into the kitchen, 166 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:52,427 he cleans up at the sink, 167 00:08:54,734 --> 00:08:56,464 and then he goes out the way he came in. 168 00:08:56,536 --> 00:09:00,405 Why climb back out the window when he could just walk through the door? 169 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:03,434 Key-locked deadbolt, that's why. 170 00:09:03,510 --> 00:09:06,105 And latents didn't find his prints on the doorknob. 171 00:09:06,179 --> 00:09:08,114 He didn't even try to open it. 172 00:09:11,818 --> 00:09:14,947 And there's no prints on this side of the door, either. 173 00:09:15,622 --> 00:09:18,023 He gets into the garden from over there. 174 00:09:18,191 --> 00:09:21,286 So why does he pass that door, come over here, 175 00:09:21,694 --> 00:09:24,596 climb over all this crap to get into the window? 176 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:27,999 Maybe he's psychic and he knew the door was locked. 177 00:09:28,735 --> 00:09:30,704 Manhattan Security Services. 178 00:09:31,738 --> 00:09:33,934 These holes in the masonry, Ms. Lerner, 179 00:09:34,007 --> 00:09:36,352 was there a different kind of door here when your parents moved in? 180 00:09:36,376 --> 00:09:37,537 It was a security door. 181 00:09:37,610 --> 00:09:40,637 My parents removed it when they remodeled the kitchen. 182 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:43,008 They wanted a view of the garden. 183 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:47,014 When my parents bought this house, it looked like Fort Knox. 184 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:50,148 So does half of New York. Who used to live here? 185 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:53,125 Warren Bartlett. The divorce lawyer. You may have heard of him. 186 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:55,719 Yeah. You can't open Page Six without reading about him. 187 00:09:55,795 --> 00:09:58,355 That's the guy who destroyed a lot of lives. 188 00:09:59,999 --> 00:10:04,664 Oh, my God. You mean, my parents may have been killed by mistake? 189 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:12,206 This is unbelievable. Those poor people. 190 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:13,837 Well, it's still just a theory. 191 00:10:13,913 --> 00:10:16,508 We can't really be sure you were the intended victim. 192 00:10:16,583 --> 00:10:18,643 But then again, in your line of work... 193 00:10:18,718 --> 00:10:22,678 I reach the pinnacle of my profession, I have to live like a prisoner. 194 00:10:22,989 --> 00:10:26,687 Cameras, security doors, letter bomb analyzers, 195 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:28,785 a bodyguard when I go to court. 196 00:10:29,596 --> 00:10:31,622 I mean, it's not as if we don't serve a purpose. 197 00:10:31,698 --> 00:10:33,428 Do you know how many matrimonial attorneys 198 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:34,695 were attacked last year? 199 00:10:34,767 --> 00:10:36,599 I know one who should have been. 200 00:10:36,669 --> 00:10:38,763 Did anybody ever show up at your home? 201 00:10:38,838 --> 00:10:41,364 Actually, that's why we sold the brownstone. 202 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:44,167 Now I live in a doorman building. High security. 203 00:10:44,244 --> 00:10:46,372 Well, we're gonna need some names. 204 00:10:47,514 --> 00:10:48,538 Why? 205 00:10:48,615 --> 00:10:51,983 Could be one of your clients' exes didn't know you relocated. 206 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:56,546 You think you're being smart, cautious. 207 00:10:57,023 --> 00:11:00,892 You sign a pre-nup, you know, just in case it's not happily ever after. 208 00:11:01,361 --> 00:11:03,387 My ex goes to Bartlett. 209 00:11:03,463 --> 00:11:07,332 Voilà, the pre-nup's not worth the paper it's written on. 210 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,029 It's America. We have to pay for our mistakes. 211 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:14,336 How many mistakes do you make that cost 30 grand a month? 212 00:11:15,942 --> 00:11:19,310 I might wanna smack him around myself. Somebody beat him up? 213 00:11:19,379 --> 00:11:21,177 Somebody tried to kill him. 214 00:11:22,649 --> 00:11:24,174 Hey, bully for them. 215 00:11:25,485 --> 00:11:28,614 Closest I ever got was throwing a chair in a deposition. 216 00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:34,055 Look, that was eight years ago. 217 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:36,923 I've gone through three wives since. 218 00:11:37,564 --> 00:11:41,524 If I was going to try to kill a divorce lawyer, he's way down on my list. 219 00:11:46,206 --> 00:11:49,370 Learned my lesson, man. Never mess with the talent. 220 00:11:51,844 --> 00:11:54,837 Tina had the voice of an angel, but she had a tail and horns. 221 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:57,315 We heard Bartlett really cleaned you out in the divorce. 222 00:11:57,383 --> 00:11:59,409 You lost the house, the studio, the car. 223 00:11:59,485 --> 00:12:01,511 Don't believe Bartlett's B.S. PR. 224 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:03,887 I threw money at him to make Tina go away. 225 00:12:03,957 --> 00:12:06,825 Besides, this business is a license to print the green stuff. 226 00:12:06,893 --> 00:12:08,904 The way he tells it, you weren't just throwing money. 227 00:12:08,928 --> 00:12:11,762 You were throwing punches, threatened to kill him. 228 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:15,861 You try two days locked in a room with the wife, 229 00:12:15,935 --> 00:12:18,871 Bartlett and my suit who goes out at $300 an hour, 230 00:12:19,339 --> 00:12:21,672 being grilled over every nickel and dime. 231 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:24,006 You'd lose your cool, too. Maybe. 232 00:12:24,544 --> 00:12:27,104 But you see, you used the magic word, kill. 233 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:32,913 Bartlett threatened to go to the cops. Tell them I was dealing coke. Real crap. 234 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:35,950 Said he'd tie me up in criminal court till next year's Grammys. 235 00:12:36,022 --> 00:12:38,423 He did his homework. Yeah, well... 236 00:12:38,958 --> 00:12:41,257 My shark did some homework of his own. 237 00:12:41,394 --> 00:12:45,092 Seems Bartlett's kid had a little problem with the blow himself. 238 00:12:46,165 --> 00:12:49,329 Makes for a quick settlement. Everybody's happy. 239 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:53,898 You know, the more I talk to these guys, it reminds me why I stay single. 240 00:12:53,973 --> 00:12:57,842 You mean, it's not just the quality time you get to spend with yourself? 241 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:01,638 You know, it is possible that the guy we're looking for 242 00:13:01,714 --> 00:13:04,115 isn't ticked off at the way Bartlett does business. 243 00:13:04,183 --> 00:13:07,085 His kid is a dope-head. Maybe it's the way he does business. 244 00:13:07,153 --> 00:13:10,988 Yeah, drug dealers. I keep forgetting there's notches below lawyers. 245 00:13:11,591 --> 00:13:13,856 You know, we could spend a whole year 246 00:13:13,926 --> 00:13:17,226 chasing down guys who may have wanted a piece of Bartlett. 247 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:20,756 Well, we wouldn't want you to get a hernia from overwork, Mike. 248 00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:23,234 Very funny. But I got a different angle. 249 00:13:23,870 --> 00:13:26,897 Bartlett's kid's into powdering his nose. 250 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:28,373 Now, maybe he didn't pay his bills, 251 00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:31,240 and I doubt he sent a change-of-address card to his dealer. 252 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:33,837 Listen to this, Bartlett never had any children, 253 00:13:33,913 --> 00:13:36,348 but he's got a foster son named Smith. 254 00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:37,877 The kid's father OD'd, 255 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:40,818 mom's had a long history of drugs and theft. She's till in Bedford. 256 00:13:40,887 --> 00:13:42,822 Anyway, I ran the kid's name, no yellows. 257 00:13:42,889 --> 00:13:45,859 Well, Bartlett's got connections. He could make those disappear. 258 00:13:45,925 --> 00:13:49,123 Yeah, he couldn't make an impound report disappear, though. 259 00:13:49,195 --> 00:13:51,960 Well, that's a big help. No, actually it might be. 260 00:13:52,598 --> 00:13:56,160 Steven Smith wrapped his car around a hydrant the night of the murders. 261 00:13:56,235 --> 00:13:59,262 Less than half a block from the Lerners' brownstone. 262 00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:02,571 Wow, that's almost a clue. And it beats heavy lifting. 263 00:14:03,343 --> 00:14:04,343 What? 264 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:07,712 It's Anita's sense of humor. Lieutenant Anita to you. 265 00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:09,509 Lieutenant. 266 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:16,121 It's like I said, a bunch of us went to a party down in SoHo. 267 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:17,657 I really don't remember much. 268 00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:20,956 You remember having a brief encounter with a fire hydrant? 269 00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:24,321 You guys are cops. 270 00:14:24,397 --> 00:14:26,608 I tell you what happened, you could pull my driver's license. 271 00:14:26,632 --> 00:14:29,033 Come on, man, that's not even our department. 272 00:14:29,102 --> 00:14:31,571 Relax. Just tell us what happened, Steve. 273 00:14:33,406 --> 00:14:34,499 All right. 274 00:14:35,908 --> 00:14:38,844 My buddy Josh and me, we left a party to go hit the clubs. 275 00:14:38,911 --> 00:14:41,403 And I guess I shouldn't have been driving. 276 00:14:42,515 --> 00:14:46,384 I hit the hydrant. That's it. I paid the towing fine. Nobody got hurt. 277 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:47,646 What's the big deal? 278 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,690 But you used to live right down the block from there. 279 00:14:51,124 --> 00:14:53,992 Yeah, well, you know, but we were going to the Palladium, I mean... 280 00:14:54,761 --> 00:14:57,060 Of course we were in the neighborhood. 281 00:14:57,163 --> 00:14:58,859 What? You think I'm a witness to something? 282 00:14:58,931 --> 00:15:00,661 Did you see anything? No. 283 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:03,293 I locked up the car and I decided to call it a night. 284 00:15:03,369 --> 00:15:05,395 You and Josh both called it a night? 285 00:15:05,471 --> 00:15:09,465 No. He wasn't as out of it as I was. He went back to the Zoo for a nightcap. 286 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:10,908 What, did you take a cab home? 287 00:15:10,977 --> 00:15:14,141 No, I was pretty wasted. I needed the air, so I walked. 288 00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:18,280 He got all revved up. The party died. 289 00:15:19,118 --> 00:15:21,563 Well, didn't you think Steve may have had a little too much to drink 290 00:15:21,587 --> 00:15:22,646 to get behind that wheel? 291 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:25,248 Last year I saw the guy go for eight hours straight. 292 00:15:25,324 --> 00:15:27,084 Maybe he's gotten out of shape, I don't know. 293 00:15:27,126 --> 00:15:28,754 I hear AA'll do that to you. 294 00:15:28,828 --> 00:15:29,955 He's in AA? 295 00:15:30,029 --> 00:15:32,931 Yeah, his girlfriend, Sally, she talked him into it. 296 00:15:33,232 --> 00:15:34,860 Sally have a last name? 297 00:15:36,068 --> 00:15:37,627 Beyers, I think. 298 00:15:38,037 --> 00:15:40,165 The things you'll do for a little action. 299 00:15:40,239 --> 00:15:42,708 You mean, he doesn't take AA seriously? 300 00:15:43,576 --> 00:15:46,876 Maybe he did. I don't know, you are what you are, right? 301 00:15:47,847 --> 00:15:51,249 He said he'd only have one. One drink turns into eight or nine... 302 00:15:51,317 --> 00:15:54,185 Yeah, why don't you tell me about the accident? 303 00:15:54,887 --> 00:15:58,449 He was singing like a jerk. You know, started playing air guitar. Boom. 304 00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:00,556 And what happened to your drinking buddy? 305 00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:04,028 He smacked his head up against the steering wheel. 306 00:16:04,096 --> 00:16:06,895 You know, if he wasn't so loaded, he might have actually got hurt. 307 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,867 So where'd you go from there? 308 00:16:09,569 --> 00:16:13,267 Something like that just messes you up. I cabbed it back to the Zoo. 309 00:16:13,906 --> 00:16:17,775 Steve go with you? No. He said he wanted to walk it off. 310 00:16:18,578 --> 00:16:23,380 Eight or nine drinks, I'd have to circle the Island twice to walk that one off. 311 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:25,315 You know, back in my drinking days, 312 00:16:25,384 --> 00:16:28,183 I came home once at the tail-end of a three-day bender. 313 00:16:28,254 --> 00:16:30,917 Only I went into the wrong wife's front door. 314 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,255 That was enough to make me go to the 12 steps. 315 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:36,091 What are you saying, kid went to his old house by mistake? 316 00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:37,391 It plays out. 317 00:16:37,797 --> 00:16:39,732 Steven used to come home drunk all the time. 318 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:42,132 So he didn't want to mess with the security door. 319 00:16:42,201 --> 00:16:43,999 So he crawls in the window. 320 00:16:44,403 --> 00:16:48,397 He's in AA. He went on a bender. Maybe he told his sponsor all about it. 321 00:16:51,644 --> 00:16:55,911 I'm sorry. I appreciate that you've got a job to do, Detectives. 322 00:16:55,982 --> 00:16:59,043 But anything said in meetings is strictly confidential. 323 00:16:59,418 --> 00:17:03,219 You know, I had a guy like you who dragged me out of a bottle once, 324 00:17:03,289 --> 00:17:06,157 and I wouldn't appreciate him giving out interviews to the tabloids, 325 00:17:06,225 --> 00:17:07,784 but this is a little different. 326 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:10,227 We're investigating a murder case here. 327 00:17:10,463 --> 00:17:12,762 You don't think Steven killed someone. 328 00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:15,967 Well, you're all wrong there. 329 00:17:16,669 --> 00:17:18,570 Steven's many things, he's an alcoholic, 330 00:17:18,638 --> 00:17:20,436 he's a substance abuser, but he's no killer. 331 00:17:20,506 --> 00:17:23,908 That much I'll tell you. Did you know he was drinking again? 332 00:17:25,344 --> 00:17:28,371 I'm sorry. I'm his sponsor. I can't tell you any more. 333 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,115 What, does this guy think he's a priest? 334 00:17:34,186 --> 00:17:37,884 It's the only way it can work, Mike. What's the girlfriend's name? 335 00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,823 Sally Beyers. Maybe she's not so tight-lipped. 336 00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:48,360 Steven's worked hardest on steps four and five. 337 00:17:48,434 --> 00:17:50,335 "Making a fearless moral inventory" 338 00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:52,463 and "admitting his wrongs to God, to himself..." 339 00:17:52,538 --> 00:17:55,440 "And to another person." Sounds like you've been there. 340 00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:57,272 Sober 532 days. 341 00:17:57,343 --> 00:17:59,903 All right. Your boyfriend can't say as much. 342 00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:03,577 This was his first slip. It happens. He tell you about it? 343 00:18:03,649 --> 00:18:05,880 Tuesday, in group. He told us all. 344 00:18:06,452 --> 00:18:09,513 It's part of the recovery. What else did he tell you? 345 00:18:10,556 --> 00:18:12,957 What gets said in meetings stays in meetings. 346 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:16,359 We're investigating a serious crime, Miss Beyers. 347 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:18,330 And we have to talk to everybody. 348 00:18:18,664 --> 00:18:21,793 Steven was in that neighborhood and he knows that house. 349 00:18:23,069 --> 00:18:24,867 He doesn't remember anything. 350 00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:28,635 He told us that he'd had a major blackout, and he said he's been having nightmares. 351 00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:32,167 I think it scared him into sobriety. What kind of nightmares? 352 00:18:32,478 --> 00:18:34,845 He read about those people dying in his old house 353 00:18:34,914 --> 00:18:36,849 and he dreamed that he did it. 354 00:18:43,389 --> 00:18:44,833 Wait, wait, wait. Let me get this right. 355 00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:47,486 Now, you're saying this poor jerk had a dream. 356 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,587 Which he told to a group of people in an AA meeting. 357 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:53,832 Last night I dreamed that I was having an ice-cream sundae 358 00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:55,925 in bed with Heather Locklear. 359 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:58,770 You don't think that that's sufficient cause 360 00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:01,137 to get a warrant to check out my bedroom? 361 00:19:01,207 --> 00:19:02,675 With no disrespect, Your Honor, 362 00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:06,042 I doubt I'd find Ms. Locklear's fingerprints on the headboard of your bed. 363 00:19:06,112 --> 00:19:08,013 And you found the kid's prints at the scene? 364 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,480 An unidentified set. 365 00:19:09,548 --> 00:19:12,484 All I'm looking for is an order to fingerprint Steven Smith. 366 00:19:12,551 --> 00:19:15,043 All right. I'll give you your order, Ms. Kincaid. 367 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:16,956 Disrespect and all. 368 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:21,457 I told you I was drunk, all right? 369 00:19:21,527 --> 00:19:25,294 Did you ever hear of a blackout? They happen. I can't remember anything. 370 00:19:25,364 --> 00:19:27,390 And these don't jog your memory? 371 00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:30,794 Why would I do that to those people, man? I don't even know them. 372 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:33,396 We're not saying you meant to kill them, Steven. 373 00:19:33,472 --> 00:19:35,703 You know, there was a case up in Westchester. 374 00:19:35,775 --> 00:19:38,108 This kid killed an Indian couple by mistake. 375 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:41,147 Now, if that's what this is, maybe there's a way out. 376 00:19:42,014 --> 00:19:44,540 What kind of mistake, man? I wasn't there. 377 00:19:44,617 --> 00:19:47,883 You drink too much, you do things you're not exactly proud of. 378 00:19:47,953 --> 00:19:49,683 Believe me, I know. 379 00:19:52,258 --> 00:19:54,227 Don't you think that I would remember... 380 00:19:54,293 --> 00:19:56,262 Remember? I've been there, too. 381 00:19:56,328 --> 00:19:58,991 Now relax. You want some coffee or something? 382 00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:01,361 No, I'm okay. 383 00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:06,904 Steven, when you woke up the next day, was there blood on your clothes? 384 00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:11,671 Yeah, I cut my head in the accident. Of course, there was blood. 385 00:20:12,912 --> 00:20:15,211 Look, we can go over this a million times, okay? 386 00:20:15,281 --> 00:20:17,216 I can't help you. I wasn't there. 387 00:20:17,283 --> 00:20:20,947 All right, tell me this. In your dream, what happened to the knife? 388 00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:26,156 I'll tell you what I think happened, Steven. 389 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:27,705 I think you went in through the window 390 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,424 because you were too drunk to notice that the steel door was gone. 391 00:20:32,398 --> 00:20:35,800 You didn't know the Lerners had remodeled the house, did you? 392 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:41,504 No, how would I? I haven't been there since we moved. 393 00:20:42,408 --> 00:20:44,741 Now, see? That's just my point. 394 00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:50,073 Kid's on the verge. 395 00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:54,751 This might help. Prints came back. Our bloody thumb's a match. 396 00:20:55,221 --> 00:20:56,382 Let's do it. 397 00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:02,094 You know what they say, Lennie. Memories fade but fingerprints don't. 398 00:21:02,161 --> 00:21:03,561 Get up. Up! 399 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:07,931 Steven Smith, you're under arrest for the murder of David and Eileen Lerner. 400 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,593 You have the right to remain silent. 401 00:21:09,668 --> 00:21:12,160 Anything you say can and will be used against... 402 00:21:13,205 --> 00:21:18,109 "Docket number 622613, People v. Steven Alan Smith. 403 00:21:18,177 --> 00:21:21,045 "Charges are two counts Murder in the Second Degree." 404 00:21:22,648 --> 00:21:23,980 Plea, Ms. Larson? 405 00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:26,544 Not guilty. 406 00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:28,286 And what do the People have to say? 407 00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:30,823 The People request that the defendant be held without bail. 408 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:33,189 He lives with his foster parents, Your Honor. 409 00:21:33,259 --> 00:21:35,099 The Bartletts have deep roots in the community. 410 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:38,325 And he certainly seems old enough to hop a cab out of town. 411 00:21:38,397 --> 00:21:41,094 Bail is set at $500,000. Next. 412 00:21:41,901 --> 00:21:45,702 A half a million bail, Jack. A little over the top, don't you think? 413 00:21:45,771 --> 00:21:47,603 Thirty-five stab wounds. 414 00:21:49,542 --> 00:21:51,841 I'd say I showed remarkable restraint. 415 00:21:52,378 --> 00:21:53,471 Restraint? 416 00:21:53,612 --> 00:21:55,911 I suggest your police officers brush up on it. 417 00:21:55,981 --> 00:21:58,143 Your client admitted... I never... 418 00:21:58,217 --> 00:22:01,779 To be accurate, he said he dreamt about the murders. 419 00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:05,923 He read about them in the papers. They happened where he used to live. 420 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:07,186 Freud would say it's natural. 421 00:22:07,259 --> 00:22:10,161 And I suppose his prints on the headboard of the Lerners' bed 422 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:11,754 got there telekinetically. 423 00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:14,733 No, but the procedure by which you matched them to Mr. Smith 424 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,166 violated his rights. 425 00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:18,966 We had a court order to fingerprint your client. 426 00:22:19,038 --> 00:22:20,199 Sure you did. 427 00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:23,674 But said court order was supported by privileged comments 428 00:22:23,742 --> 00:22:26,371 made during confidential AA meetings. 429 00:22:27,546 --> 00:22:29,139 I'll see you in court. 430 00:22:33,118 --> 00:22:36,646 The rules of privilege are founded in public policy, Your Honor. 431 00:22:36,889 --> 00:22:39,518 Encouraging free communication in certain circumstances 432 00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:41,720 has been deemed more important 433 00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:45,196 than admitting the substance of that communication into evidence. 434 00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:48,928 And the legislature is clear as to whom that privilege applies. 435 00:22:49,001 --> 00:22:51,368 I see doctor and patient, attorney and client, 436 00:22:51,437 --> 00:22:54,066 priest and penitent, husband and wife. 437 00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:56,618 There's nothing in the rules of evidence about self-help groups. 438 00:22:56,642 --> 00:22:58,941 But the underlying policy is the same. 439 00:22:59,345 --> 00:23:02,713 Society has recognized addiction as a disease. 440 00:23:02,848 --> 00:23:04,476 Would we be here at all if my client 441 00:23:04,550 --> 00:23:06,519 had sought treatment in a psychiatrist's office? 442 00:23:06,585 --> 00:23:10,955 Psychiatrists are professionals specifically covered by the statute. 443 00:23:11,023 --> 00:23:13,515 Alcoholics Anonymous is a self-help group. 444 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:17,086 Confidentiality is a courtesy, not a legal mandate. 445 00:23:17,162 --> 00:23:21,998 For a 12-step program to be effective, a participant must bare his soul. 446 00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:24,332 How can we require or expect that 447 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:25,837 if it can then be turned around 448 00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:28,704 and used as evidence against him in a criminal trial? 449 00:23:28,774 --> 00:23:32,870 If we admit this evidence we are, in effect, destroying any chance 450 00:23:32,945 --> 00:23:35,471 these individuals have at finding a cure. 451 00:23:35,781 --> 00:23:37,340 It's very convincing, Counselor. 452 00:23:38,851 --> 00:23:41,286 The problem is that Mr. McCoy is right. 453 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:45,251 There's nothing in the statutes that mentions 12-step programs. 454 00:23:45,324 --> 00:23:48,385 I'm talking about principle, social policy, Your Honor. 455 00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:50,554 I'm talking about the law, 456 00:23:50,629 --> 00:23:53,724 which as we all know, is to be narrowly construed. 457 00:23:54,199 --> 00:23:58,398 My job is not to rewrite the statutes, it is to interpret them. 458 00:23:59,872 --> 00:24:01,773 The defense motion is denied. 459 00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:06,006 In that case, Your Honor, 460 00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:09,143 the defendant changes his plea from not guilty 461 00:24:09,214 --> 00:24:11,683 to not guilty by reason of mental defect. 462 00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:14,352 They've got you dead to rights, why not? 463 00:24:15,054 --> 00:24:16,147 All right. 464 00:24:16,422 --> 00:24:18,687 The defendant will be made available for examination 465 00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:21,784 by the People's experts at their convenience. 466 00:24:22,861 --> 00:24:26,320 I've never even met those people before. I have no idea why... 467 00:24:26,899 --> 00:24:27,899 Why? 468 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:32,271 I may have killed two innocent people. 469 00:24:32,338 --> 00:24:35,604 People I never even heard of, and what do you think I feel? 470 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:37,705 I don't know. You tell me. 471 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,613 I have nightmares about it. 472 00:24:45,284 --> 00:24:46,377 I don't... 473 00:24:47,419 --> 00:24:49,615 I don't even know if I did it. 474 00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:52,491 You don't remember? 475 00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:55,559 What do you remember? 476 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:58,029 We... 477 00:24:59,231 --> 00:25:02,497 We were at a party, doing shooters. All right? 478 00:25:02,668 --> 00:25:06,036 I left with Josh. We put in a CD or something... 479 00:25:08,574 --> 00:25:12,033 I don't know. The car swerved off the road. I totaled the car. 480 00:25:12,111 --> 00:25:14,979 I hit my head. Josh went back for a drink. 481 00:25:15,647 --> 00:25:17,013 What did you do? 482 00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:20,214 I thought I walked home. 483 00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:25,115 But you didn't? No. I guess I went back to my old house. 484 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:27,125 I don't remember! 485 00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:29,058 Why do you think that you went back there? 486 00:25:29,128 --> 00:25:30,687 I was drunk, okay? 487 00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:36,425 I know what you're thinking, and it's sick. 488 00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:38,131 What, Steven? 489 00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:40,837 Warren and Leah, 490 00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:48,312 they put up with all my crap, all right? They're good people. I love... 491 00:25:50,282 --> 00:25:52,751 I know what you're thinking, it's like... 492 00:25:54,787 --> 00:25:57,951 You think I wanted to kill them. What do you think? 493 00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:07,128 He claims amnesia for the crimes and I believe him. 494 00:26:07,199 --> 00:26:10,169 Amnesia's not grounds for insanity. That's true. 495 00:26:10,636 --> 00:26:14,198 The only form of mental illness seems to be substance abuse. 496 00:26:14,273 --> 00:26:18,472 He was drunk, and as we all know, that's not the basis for an insanity plea. 497 00:26:18,877 --> 00:26:22,279 They tried this in Westchester. There's a difference. 498 00:26:22,347 --> 00:26:25,215 There the defense claimed that the boy had a learning disability 499 00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:29,449 and that his homicidal tendencies were implanted by a high-school psychologist. 500 00:26:29,688 --> 00:26:32,624 Steven Smith had an alcoholic blackout. 501 00:26:32,691 --> 00:26:34,990 That, combined with a head injury from the car accident, 502 00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:36,892 could have triggered a dissociative episode. 503 00:26:36,962 --> 00:26:39,397 He was drunk, he killed two innocent people 504 00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:41,798 and now he's trying to use the bottle as a defense. 505 00:26:41,867 --> 00:26:44,564 Isn't it pretty obvious he meant to kill the Bartletts? 506 00:26:44,636 --> 00:26:45,636 At least unconsciously. 507 00:26:45,704 --> 00:26:48,435 But there's no evidence of any conscious motive. 508 00:26:49,808 --> 00:26:51,208 Bartlett's wealthy. 509 00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:54,508 The brutality of the murders, this had nothing to do with money. 510 00:26:56,482 --> 00:26:58,974 Then we should find out what it was about. 511 00:27:02,387 --> 00:27:04,185 What are you implying? 512 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:08,753 The Lerners were killed in your old bedroom, Mr. Bartlett. 513 00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:11,456 Let me tell you something. Steven has problems. 514 00:27:11,530 --> 00:27:13,624 Most of them come out of a bottle. 515 00:27:13,699 --> 00:27:17,397 He's ill, Warren. And she's trying to say it's our fault. 516 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:20,697 Look, Steven had trouble handling a groundball, 517 00:27:21,073 --> 00:27:24,373 I spent three hours a night with him out at the schoolyard. 518 00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:28,412 He was lost in algebra, I took a week off from work. 519 00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:30,679 Something prompted this. 520 00:27:31,383 --> 00:27:33,477 Steven is sick. 521 00:27:33,552 --> 00:27:37,045 He's insane, for God's sakes! I don't need you to tell... 522 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:42,291 I'm certainly not going to help you put him in jail 523 00:27:42,361 --> 00:27:44,660 when he should be under psychiatric care. 524 00:27:44,730 --> 00:27:46,665 Mr. Bartlett, you're an attorney. 525 00:27:46,732 --> 00:27:49,793 You know that if he knew what he was doing at the time of the crime, 526 00:27:49,868 --> 00:27:51,564 he's not legally insane. 527 00:27:51,637 --> 00:27:55,005 What are you saying? That Steven was rational when he did this? 528 00:27:55,073 --> 00:27:57,804 I'm sorry, I won't accept that. 529 00:28:00,312 --> 00:28:04,044 They're wealthy, they're educated, they seem to be the perfect parents. 530 00:28:04,116 --> 00:28:07,575 And Steven wanted them dead. For no apparent reason. 531 00:28:07,653 --> 00:28:10,088 He's still living with them, that has to mean something. 532 00:28:10,155 --> 00:28:12,818 Maybe this was some sort of dissociative episode. 533 00:28:12,891 --> 00:28:15,588 In other words, the crime is so crazy, the kid's got to be nuts. 534 00:28:15,661 --> 00:28:18,825 The defense has the burden to show that at the time he committed the murders, 535 00:28:18,897 --> 00:28:21,992 Steven Smith didn't understand the nature of what he was doing. 536 00:28:22,067 --> 00:28:24,798 Maybe we shouldn't be so gung ho here, Jack. 537 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:27,601 Maybe he is better off in a hospital than a prison. 538 00:28:27,673 --> 00:28:29,608 Tell that to Elizabeth Lerner. 539 00:28:30,676 --> 00:28:34,374 Am I supposed to let him play doctor in a rubber room at Bellevue 540 00:28:34,446 --> 00:28:36,312 just because he tells me he can't remember? 541 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:37,974 Come on. You know it's not that simple. 542 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:41,350 Even Olivet can't tell us whether he was rational at the time of the crime. 543 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:44,151 That's going to make for a wonderful cross examination. 544 00:28:44,223 --> 00:28:47,819 Only one person knows what Smith was thinking that night, right? 545 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,759 And he was in an alcoholic fog. 546 00:28:49,828 --> 00:28:51,694 Well, let's turn on the defroster. 547 00:28:51,763 --> 00:28:54,255 Hypnotize him. Take him back to the scene. 548 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:59,032 If he says that E.T. told him to kill a couple of gremlins, 549 00:28:59,104 --> 00:29:01,266 then I'll cut a deal for insanity. 550 00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:04,842 What happened, Jack? 551 00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:08,210 You had too much last night, blacked out and forgot the law? 552 00:29:08,647 --> 00:29:10,946 Hypnotic testimony is inherently unreliable. 553 00:29:11,016 --> 00:29:13,417 On the contrary, I was up until the wee hours 554 00:29:13,485 --> 00:29:15,477 reading supreme court decisions. 555 00:29:16,288 --> 00:29:18,450 Specifically Rock v. Arkansas... 556 00:29:18,523 --> 00:29:22,893 Which held that a per se rule excluding hypnotic testimony 557 00:29:22,961 --> 00:29:26,363 infringes on a defendant's right to testify on his own behalf. 558 00:29:26,798 --> 00:29:30,166 In other words, you can't force my client to give hypnotic testimony. 559 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:33,637 I don't want him in prison if he's legally insane, Marge. 560 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:35,741 I'll tell you what. 561 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:40,804 If we learn that these murders were the result of a psychotic episode 562 00:29:40,879 --> 00:29:43,610 that rendered him unaware of what he was doing, 563 00:29:43,682 --> 00:29:46,652 I'll be the first one seated at the bargaining table. 564 00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:49,019 And if we don't? 565 00:29:49,354 --> 00:29:54,258 I agree that nothing he says under hypnosis can be used against him in court. 566 00:29:55,694 --> 00:29:57,492 Heads I win, tails you lose. 567 00:29:58,430 --> 00:29:59,430 Okay. 568 00:30:03,335 --> 00:30:06,271 One more time on the kitchen floor 569 00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:12,339 Shut up, Josh. Man, I wanna sing, I'll sing. 570 00:30:16,014 --> 00:30:17,448 Oh, my God. 571 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:23,583 My head. What happened, Steven? 572 00:30:28,226 --> 00:30:29,626 I totaled the car. 573 00:30:30,595 --> 00:30:31,858 Where are you? 574 00:30:39,638 --> 00:30:42,130 It's late, I better get home. 575 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,972 The door's locked. How are you going to get in? 576 00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:50,113 I gotta get home. 577 00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:53,742 The storm window. She'll never know. 578 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:56,311 Who will never know? 579 00:30:58,357 --> 00:30:59,757 I'll be quiet. 580 00:31:00,926 --> 00:31:02,519 Where are you, Steven? 581 00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:08,724 Mommy. Don't hit me, Mommy! 582 00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:15,770 It burns, Mommy! Please. It burns. 583 00:31:18,076 --> 00:31:19,305 I'll be good. 584 00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:21,346 What did you do wrong, Steven? 585 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:23,481 I didn't mean it. 586 00:31:24,449 --> 00:31:27,476 I won't spill the Coke on the carpet again. I promise. 587 00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:30,052 Mommy, don't hit me, please! 588 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:34,782 Don't or I'll... Or you'll what, Steven? 589 00:31:36,928 --> 00:31:38,294 It burns so bad. 590 00:31:39,564 --> 00:31:41,590 Tell me, what will you do? 591 00:31:44,102 --> 00:31:46,003 No. I'm sorry. It's bad. 592 00:31:46,838 --> 00:31:48,306 What is it, Steven? 593 00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:57,578 The knife. 594 00:31:59,951 --> 00:32:03,888 I'm sorry, the knife. It's bad. But I have to. 595 00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:06,122 I have to. 596 00:32:13,298 --> 00:32:14,298 Wow. 597 00:32:15,434 --> 00:32:17,528 It's pitiful is what it is. 598 00:32:17,903 --> 00:32:20,532 But it's clear he knew what he was doing was wrong. 599 00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:22,938 Translation, he wasn't legally insane. 600 00:32:23,008 --> 00:32:24,704 Come on, we all know 601 00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:28,178 I can march into a courtroom, show a video of what we just saw 602 00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:32,047 and walk away with a verdict of not guilty by reason of mental defect. 603 00:32:32,117 --> 00:32:34,177 And if you put one witness on the stand 604 00:32:34,252 --> 00:32:36,983 who says that he was legally insane at the time of the murder, 605 00:32:37,055 --> 00:32:39,149 you'll be suborning perjury. 606 00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:41,386 I've known you for 15 years, Marge. 607 00:32:42,194 --> 00:32:44,891 I never suspected that was part of your makeup. 608 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:48,229 We've gone way beyond an insanity defense, Jack. 609 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:49,962 So you're willing to cut a deal? 610 00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:53,369 And subject my client to the tender mercies of the criminal justice system? 611 00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:54,804 I don't think so. 612 00:32:55,006 --> 00:32:57,532 Steven Smith committed justifiable homicide. 613 00:32:58,210 --> 00:33:00,145 He was acting in self-defense. 614 00:33:07,419 --> 00:33:10,981 It's probable that Steven Smith was physically abused as a child. 615 00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:13,385 Now he's a grown man. Yes. 616 00:33:13,458 --> 00:33:15,927 But it was the 12-year-old boy who swung that knife. 617 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,122 Is it possible that he's just acting? 618 00:33:18,196 --> 00:33:19,994 It's possible, but I doubt it. 619 00:33:20,065 --> 00:33:22,057 The alcohol, the physical trauma, 620 00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:24,864 together they could've freed repressed memories. 621 00:33:24,936 --> 00:33:26,268 I think the night of the murders, 622 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:28,933 he was a 12-year-old boy who thought he was about to be beaten. 623 00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:31,977 It sounded like he was hit repeatedly. Burned. 624 00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:34,804 It won't be a stretch for Larson to make a good case for self-defense. 625 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:37,645 You got no case, come to us. We'll give you all the help you need. 626 00:33:37,716 --> 00:33:40,828 Steven Smith went into what he thought was the Bartletts' bedroom at 2:00 a.m., 627 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:43,788 which means that he can't argue that he didn't know they were asleep. 628 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,118 Which means that he can't argue 629 00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:48,126 that he thought he was threatened with imminent physical harm. 630 00:33:48,193 --> 00:33:49,570 Which means there's no self-defense. 631 00:33:49,594 --> 00:33:51,114 But he was thinking like a 12-year-old. 632 00:33:51,162 --> 00:33:53,358 I'm not certain he could make that distinction. 633 00:33:53,431 --> 00:33:54,797 I think he could. 634 00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:02,201 The Lerners were found in their bed, in their nightclothes. 635 00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:05,233 Both were victims of multiple stab wounds. 636 00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:07,905 Did you come to any conclusion as to whether they were asleep 637 00:34:07,979 --> 00:34:09,345 at the time the attacks commenced? 638 00:34:09,414 --> 00:34:11,440 Objection. Calls for speculation. 639 00:34:11,516 --> 00:34:13,644 Detective Logan is qualified to testify 640 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:16,984 as to the opinions formed as a result of his investigation. 641 00:34:18,323 --> 00:34:20,292 Speculate, Detective Logan. 642 00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:25,460 The time of death was determined to be between midnight and 3:00 a.m. 643 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:29,258 The lights were out, Mrs. Lerner was still under the blankets, 644 00:34:30,135 --> 00:34:34,163 we determined that she was asleep when the attack began, 645 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,108 and that Mr. Lerner who had defensive wounds on both hands 646 00:34:38,176 --> 00:34:40,668 was awakened by the attack on Mrs. Lerner. 647 00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:43,038 Thank you, Detective. 648 00:34:44,015 --> 00:34:45,483 Ms. Larson. 649 00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:48,179 The defense has no questions for this witness. 650 00:34:48,987 --> 00:34:53,152 I was with Steven from around 8:00 until just after he wrecked his car. 651 00:34:53,224 --> 00:34:56,058 And was his behavior out of the ordinary that evening? 652 00:34:56,995 --> 00:35:00,693 We were drinking heavy, you know. I guess he was acting like usual. 653 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:06,067 Turning your attention to the moments immediately following the accident, 654 00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:08,538 please describe how the defendant acted. 655 00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:11,302 He wrecked his car. He was upset. 656 00:35:11,376 --> 00:35:13,743 I said I'd call a tow truck, and he said to hell with it, 657 00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:15,804 he'll deal with it in the morning. 658 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,348 And what happened then? 659 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:20,347 I went to go get another drink. 660 00:35:20,418 --> 00:35:22,683 Did the defendant go with you? 661 00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:27,622 No. Thank you. 662 00:35:32,597 --> 00:35:35,567 What were the defendant's parting words that evening? 663 00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:38,331 He said he was going home. 664 00:35:39,571 --> 00:35:40,571 Home. 665 00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:44,166 I see. No more questions. 666 00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:50,838 We've put five witnesses on the stand. Larson asks one question on cross. 667 00:35:50,915 --> 00:35:54,079 I'd say she was pretty confident. Sure she's confident. 668 00:35:54,285 --> 00:35:57,449 Tomorrow she plans on breaking the jury's hearts. 669 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,356 Sympathy alone doesn't get you an acquittal. 670 00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:02,223 But it sure as hell hangs a jury. 671 00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:03,852 Look at those boys out in LA. 672 00:36:03,928 --> 00:36:06,295 This isn't the Menendez brothers, Adam. 673 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:09,468 There's no doubt in this case that the victims were innocent. 674 00:36:09,534 --> 00:36:10,763 That's right. 675 00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:13,530 Only here we have the abusers in the flesh 676 00:36:13,554 --> 00:36:16,003 to tell us all about what monsters they were. 677 00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:22,205 I have a Masters in child psychology from the University of Michigan, 678 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,010 and a Ph.D. from Cornell. 679 00:36:24,382 --> 00:36:26,283 I've been with the Department of Social Services 680 00:36:26,351 --> 00:36:30,311 for the last 16 years where I've counseled nearly 10,000 abused children. 681 00:36:30,388 --> 00:36:33,620 Did you have an opportunity to see the videotape of the defendant 682 00:36:33,692 --> 00:36:35,217 in his hypnotic state? 683 00:36:35,293 --> 00:36:36,293 I did. 684 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:41,856 Would you say that he fit the profile of the typical abused child? 685 00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:47,105 Considering Steven's body language, the panic in his voice, 686 00:36:47,572 --> 00:36:49,234 the substance of what he was saying, 687 00:36:49,307 --> 00:36:51,708 leads me to believe that he was an abused child, yes. 688 00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:56,009 When he was 12 years old, would you say that he hated his foster parents? 689 00:36:56,081 --> 00:36:58,550 On the contrary, he loved them very much. 690 00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:02,752 He loved them, yet still he wanted them dead? 691 00:37:02,854 --> 00:37:05,756 Well, you have to understand that the love an abused child feels 692 00:37:05,824 --> 00:37:08,851 is tempered by confusion, shame, guilt. 693 00:37:08,927 --> 00:37:11,089 But most of all, by fear. 694 00:37:11,696 --> 00:37:14,461 Now, Steven Smith was burned and beaten. 695 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,697 In my opinion, he wanted to kill the Bartletts 696 00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:21,467 because he thought they were going to kill him. 697 00:37:22,707 --> 00:37:24,107 Thank you, Doctor. 698 00:37:26,077 --> 00:37:29,980 Of the 10,000 abused children you've counseled, Doctor, 699 00:37:30,482 --> 00:37:33,452 how many were beaten while their abusers were asleep? 700 00:37:33,718 --> 00:37:37,246 That's an absurd question. So I can take it that that means zero? 701 00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:38,913 Yes. 702 00:37:39,524 --> 00:37:43,552 But abused children believe their abusers are an omnipresent threat. 703 00:37:44,195 --> 00:37:46,926 Their abusers. Not some strangers. 704 00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:53,068 I'm not proud of what I did. 705 00:37:53,738 --> 00:37:56,537 I got help. I thought I got it in time. 706 00:37:58,476 --> 00:38:01,105 So, you're admitting you abused Steven? 707 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:03,875 Warren and I couldn't have children, 708 00:38:04,382 --> 00:38:08,080 but the problem was I just wasn't ready to be a mother. 709 00:38:11,656 --> 00:38:13,818 Please tell us more, Mrs. Bartlett. 710 00:38:14,859 --> 00:38:18,387 Well, it began with a glass of wine at dinner. 711 00:38:18,997 --> 00:38:23,230 I'd put Steven to bed and I'd feel so alone. 712 00:38:24,669 --> 00:38:27,696 So I'd have another and another, 713 00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:32,369 and then I moved on to vodka. 714 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:36,615 And I'd start at breakfast. 715 00:38:38,349 --> 00:38:40,341 And I was hard on Steven. 716 00:38:41,586 --> 00:38:45,546 He would cry and... I just couldn't stand it. 717 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,028 So you hit him? 718 00:38:53,798 --> 00:38:55,630 You'll have to answer aloud. 719 00:38:56,601 --> 00:38:57,694 I hit him, 720 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:03,198 first with my hand, and then with anything I could find. 721 00:39:04,475 --> 00:39:06,137 A bottle, a shoe. 722 00:39:07,145 --> 00:39:10,809 I was alone in the house with Steven. I blamed him. 723 00:39:12,917 --> 00:39:15,045 And how did it end, Mrs. Bartlett? 724 00:39:16,921 --> 00:39:20,187 One afternoon, I was on my second bottle of vodka. 725 00:39:21,793 --> 00:39:25,161 Steven was in the living room watching television. 726 00:39:27,298 --> 00:39:29,597 I kicked his can of soda 727 00:39:31,502 --> 00:39:33,664 and it spilled all over the carpet. 728 00:39:34,772 --> 00:39:36,707 It was a new carpet! 729 00:39:42,814 --> 00:39:45,010 I burned him with a cigarette. 730 00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:51,049 He ran into the kitchen. 731 00:39:51,923 --> 00:39:55,587 I followed him and I grabbed a carving knife. 732 00:39:58,329 --> 00:39:59,558 I'm so sorry. 733 00:40:04,502 --> 00:40:06,903 Warren came home from the office. 734 00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:13,536 I don't know what would have happened if he hadn't come home then. 735 00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:22,650 I started treatment the next day. 736 00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:26,688 Thank you. 737 00:40:33,231 --> 00:40:35,632 Shall I ask for a recess, Mrs. Bartlett? 738 00:40:37,035 --> 00:40:39,027 No, I'm okay. 739 00:40:46,177 --> 00:40:49,306 How old was Steven when you attacked him with the knife? 740 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:53,482 He was 12. 741 00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:58,246 And you haven't hit him once in the past nine years? 742 00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:04,353 No. 743 00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:08,760 And he still lives at home with you? 744 00:41:11,536 --> 00:41:12,536 Yes. 745 00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:18,200 No more questions. 746 00:41:21,379 --> 00:41:22,779 The defense rests. 747 00:41:26,584 --> 00:41:29,486 Well, juror number three was actually in tears. 748 00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:33,857 After my closing, I hope they'll be crying for the Lerners. 749 00:41:33,925 --> 00:41:36,588 And that'll make them want to put the mother in jail, not the kid. 750 00:41:36,661 --> 00:41:38,129 Did you ever consider the possibility 751 00:41:38,196 --> 00:41:41,894 that Mrs. Bartlett might be exaggerating to protect her son? 752 00:41:43,368 --> 00:41:46,304 It's just her word. That's right. 753 00:41:47,071 --> 00:41:49,734 It is just her word, isn't it? Where are you going? 754 00:41:49,807 --> 00:41:52,140 Well, wouldn't this have been a slam dunk for the defense 755 00:41:52,210 --> 00:41:55,647 if Mr. Bartlett took the stand and confirmed her story? 756 00:41:57,749 --> 00:41:59,308 Larson never called him. 757 00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:06,885 My wife had a drinking problem. I wasn't aware of the extent of it. 758 00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:11,056 A bottle of vodka a day, you didn't notice? 759 00:42:11,162 --> 00:42:13,757 I was referring to how she treated Steven. 760 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,802 She said she beat him with a shoe, a bottle. 761 00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:21,197 You didn't notice? 762 00:42:21,272 --> 00:42:25,334 I was starting a new practice. I was at the office more than I was at home. 763 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:26,510 I see. 764 00:42:28,179 --> 00:42:30,580 Now, sir, correct me if I'm wrong, 765 00:42:31,449 --> 00:42:34,248 but didn't you tell my associate, Ms. Kincaid, 766 00:42:35,953 --> 00:42:38,422 that when your son had trouble with baseball, 767 00:42:38,489 --> 00:42:40,651 you worked with him every night? 768 00:42:40,725 --> 00:42:43,854 You took a week off to help him with his mathematics? 769 00:42:43,928 --> 00:42:47,524 That was after Leah was in treatment. My practice was already established. 770 00:42:47,598 --> 00:42:50,727 Yes, but it seems you had a close relationship. 771 00:42:51,502 --> 00:42:53,164 I'm proud of that, yes. 772 00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:55,706 He would come to you when he had problems? 773 00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:56,940 Yes. 774 00:42:57,575 --> 00:43:00,135 He didn't understand Pythagoras, he came to you for help, 775 00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:03,181 he booted a groundball, he ran to you. 776 00:43:03,948 --> 00:43:08,010 But when your wife burned him with a cigarette or beat him with a shoe, 777 00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:11,352 he didn't think it proper to confide in you, is that right? 778 00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:14,553 He was a boy. 779 00:43:22,366 --> 00:43:26,269 Did you abuse Steven, Mr. Bartlett? I was selfish. 780 00:43:26,771 --> 00:43:30,867 I worked too hard. I ignored my family. Steven suffered from that. 781 00:43:30,942 --> 00:43:33,070 Did you ever beat him with a shoe? 782 00:43:33,744 --> 00:43:34,973 No. 783 00:43:35,046 --> 00:43:36,947 A bottle? No. 784 00:43:37,315 --> 00:43:39,226 How many times did you burn him with a cigarette? 785 00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:40,479 I would never... 786 00:43:40,551 --> 00:43:43,316 I always protected Steven. I would never hurt him. 787 00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:46,755 But Steven thought you would. That's not true. 788 00:43:47,558 --> 00:43:49,493 I love him! He loves me! 789 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,724 And he had no reason to kill you. 790 00:43:53,798 --> 00:43:56,893 Your Honor, Mr. McCoy is testifying here. 791 00:43:58,102 --> 00:43:59,365 In my chambers. 792 00:44:00,671 --> 00:44:03,266 The witness himself said that he never abused the defendant. 793 00:44:03,341 --> 00:44:04,866 He said he always protected him. 794 00:44:04,942 --> 00:44:06,353 What's that have to do with anything? 795 00:44:06,377 --> 00:44:07,606 Let's assume for the moment 796 00:44:07,678 --> 00:44:11,137 that the defendant actually believed that Mrs. Bartlett was going to kill him. 797 00:44:11,215 --> 00:44:14,982 Fine, that's self-defense, but Mr. Bartlett never laid a hand on him. 798 00:44:15,386 --> 00:44:17,082 He didn't have a weapon. 799 00:44:17,288 --> 00:44:20,349 So tell me, what was he defending himself from? 800 00:44:20,424 --> 00:44:23,292 The jury can infer he was... They won't get the chance. 801 00:44:23,361 --> 00:44:26,229 Your Honor, the People dismiss count one of the indictment, 802 00:44:26,297 --> 00:44:28,562 the charge of murdering Eileen Lerner. 803 00:44:28,633 --> 00:44:31,501 We'll proceed only on count two for the murder of David Lerner. 804 00:44:31,569 --> 00:44:33,470 Are you sure? I'm sure. 805 00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:36,967 And I further move that Your Honor charge the jury 806 00:44:37,041 --> 00:44:41,103 that they may not consider self-defense as a justification for that murder. 807 00:44:41,612 --> 00:44:43,308 Very clever, Mr. McCoy. 808 00:44:43,381 --> 00:44:46,146 This is prejudicial. And it's the law. 809 00:44:47,118 --> 00:44:48,518 Motion is granted. 810 00:44:50,388 --> 00:44:52,755 Finally, you are instructed as follows. 811 00:44:53,257 --> 00:44:57,319 In the matter before you, you may not in any way 812 00:44:57,395 --> 00:45:01,730 consider the affirmative defense of justification 813 00:45:01,799 --> 00:45:03,961 as a result of self-defense. 814 00:45:04,735 --> 00:45:08,331 In other words, the only issue before you 815 00:45:08,439 --> 00:45:12,069 is whether the prosecution has proven sufficiently 816 00:45:12,143 --> 00:45:16,672 each and every element of the crime of Murder in the Second Degree. 817 00:45:16,747 --> 00:45:21,708 Namely, did the defendant intend to cause the death of David Lerner 818 00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:25,481 and did he in fact cause said death? 819 00:45:39,136 --> 00:45:42,004 Madam Forewoman, has the jury reached a verdict? 820 00:45:42,073 --> 00:45:43,336 Yes, we have, Your Honor. 821 00:45:43,407 --> 00:45:47,139 On the sole count of the indictment, Murder in the Second Degree, 822 00:45:47,645 --> 00:45:49,011 how do you find? 823 00:45:52,383 --> 00:45:55,046 We find the defendant, Steven Smith, guilty. 824 00:45:56,053 --> 00:45:59,512 The defendant is remanded to custody pending sentencing. 825 00:46:00,291 --> 00:46:01,657 Jury is excused. 826 00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:03,961 Court is adjourned. 827 00:46:09,367 --> 00:46:10,562 I'm so sorry. 828 00:46:10,635 --> 00:46:12,763 We split hairs. We won. 829 00:46:14,038 --> 00:46:15,131 But I'm still not convinced 830 00:46:15,206 --> 00:46:18,699 putting Steven Smith in prison for 25 years is the right thing. 831 00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:22,246 You think he should be on the street? 832 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,106 You know that's not what I mean. 833 00:46:25,483 --> 00:46:27,884 The law only gave us two choices. 834 00:46:30,955 --> 00:46:31,955 Coming? 66052

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