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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:37,277 --> 00:00:40,817 ♪ It's all right, it's OK. Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey 2 00:00:40,817 --> 00:00:43,857 ♪ It's all right, it's OK 3 00:00:43,857 --> 00:00:46,417 ♪ Listen to what I say 4 00:00:46,417 --> 00:00:48,937 ♪ It's all right, doing fine 5 00:00:48,937 --> 00:00:52,117 ♪ Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine 6 00:00:52,117 --> 00:00:54,197 ♪ It's all right, it's OK 7 00:00:54,197 --> 00:00:56,517 ♪ We're getting to the end of the day. ♪ 8 00:01:01,463 --> 00:01:03,663 TV: Strike action at the London Dockyards 9 00:01:03,663 --> 00:01:05,043 entered its seventh week 10 00:01:05,043 --> 00:01:07,003 with little sign of a resolution. 11 00:01:07,003 --> 00:01:11,263 Union leader Joseph Walsh addressed a mass meeting. 12 00:01:11,263 --> 00:01:12,563 This Government, 13 00:01:12,563 --> 00:01:15,743 the Government WE put into office, 14 00:01:15,743 --> 00:01:18,103 this Labour Government so-called, 15 00:01:18,103 --> 00:01:20,603 has sold us down the river. 16 00:01:20,603 --> 00:01:26,103 If we don't make a stand, in another ten years, there'll be no docks. 17 00:01:26,103 --> 00:01:28,503 If we don't fight now, 18 00:01:28,503 --> 00:01:32,503 all this will be sold off and built on by developers. 19 00:01:32,503 --> 00:01:35,043 Right - that's Canary Wharf now. 20 00:01:35,043 --> 00:01:39,923 1975, a Labour Government with a majority of three. 21 00:01:39,923 --> 00:01:43,903 Inflation is going through the roof and Joe Walsh is leading 22 00:01:43,903 --> 00:01:47,883 the crane drivers in a strike that could paralyse the docks. 23 00:01:48,923 --> 00:01:53,563 Mr Walsh, can you comment on press reports that your union 24 00:01:53,563 --> 00:01:59,483 has received secret funds from the Soviet Union? No comment. And these have been diverted for your use? 25 00:01:59,483 --> 00:02:01,823 You what? Come here, you! 26 00:02:01,823 --> 00:02:03,883 A very strong reaction, Mr Walsh. 27 00:02:03,883 --> 00:02:09,483 Keeping your own hours, Brian? On enquiries. Joe Walsh, isn't it? 28 00:02:09,483 --> 00:02:14,083 Yeah. He was a bit of a hero of mine. That explains a lot. 29 00:02:14,083 --> 00:02:18,383 Joe Walsh's body was recovered from the Thames on 20th May, 1975. 30 00:02:18,383 --> 00:02:23,263 Days after these financial rumours began to circulate. 31 00:02:23,263 --> 00:02:26,603 He got caught and topped himself. What's the mystery? 32 00:02:26,603 --> 00:02:33,283 Cabinet papers for 1975 have been released under the 30-year rule. 33 00:02:33,283 --> 00:02:38,763 When Harold Wilson asked for comments on the Dock Strike, the Minister for Economic Security said, 34 00:02:38,763 --> 00:02:41,743 and I quote, "In my opinion, 35 00:02:41,743 --> 00:02:46,123 "Joe Walsh is a politically motivated man, holding the country to ransom. 36 00:02:46,123 --> 00:02:48,243 "What's the Security Service doing? 37 00:02:48,243 --> 00:02:53,643 "This man needs to be brought down urgently. Do whatever it takes." 38 00:02:53,643 --> 00:02:59,403 I think we should reopen this case and find out if Joe Walsh committed suicide, or if they disposed of him. 39 00:03:00,643 --> 00:03:05,683 High-profile case, politics, security, could be a minefield. 40 00:03:05,683 --> 00:03:09,683 Still, you've all been round the block a few times, 41 00:03:09,683 --> 00:03:16,203 Tread carefully. I'll watch your back as much as I can. But don't push your luck. 42 00:03:16,203 --> 00:03:21,623 The body was recovered further down, but they reckoned he went in about here. 43 00:03:25,119 --> 00:03:29,299 Well, if MI5 knocked off stroppy trade unionists in the '70s, 44 00:03:29,299 --> 00:03:32,259 the mortuaries would be standing room only. 45 00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:36,179 They'd been told to target him. No. They targeted all sorts. 46 00:03:36,179 --> 00:03:42,359 I've got an old mate in the Trade Union Movement. He might be able to shed some light on things. 47 00:03:42,359 --> 00:03:46,679 And someone ought to be looking at the union's financial records. 48 00:03:46,679 --> 00:03:49,939 I'll have a go at that, I've got experience. 49 00:03:49,939 --> 00:03:55,179 Eh? Brian used to be a Police Federation Representative. 50 00:03:55,179 --> 00:03:57,419 Yeah, first sign he was going barmy. 51 00:03:57,419 --> 00:03:59,859 Any surviving witnesses? 52 00:03:59,859 --> 00:04:03,239 His daughter, Anita. Not THE Anita Walsh? 53 00:04:03,239 --> 00:04:04,899 The same. 54 00:04:04,899 --> 00:04:07,019 Yeah! You and I can go talk to her. 55 00:04:07,019 --> 00:04:10,599 And, Jack, someone's got to approach MI5. 56 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:11,739 Thank you. 57 00:04:25,041 --> 00:04:29,421 Oh, these writers don't live in garrets any more, do they? 58 00:04:29,421 --> 00:04:32,821 The ones who write airport blockbusters don't, no. 59 00:05:03,211 --> 00:05:07,691 Miss Walsh? Yes? I am Detective Superintendent Pullman. 60 00:05:07,691 --> 00:05:11,611 This is Gerry Standing. We need to talk to you about your late father. 61 00:05:11,611 --> 00:05:14,511 We're reinvestigating his death. 62 00:05:14,511 --> 00:05:16,491 Can we come in? 63 00:05:16,491 --> 00:05:19,431 Yes. Thank you. 64 00:05:57,315 --> 00:06:00,375 TV: Technically speaking, it's a cock up. 65 00:06:00,375 --> 00:06:04,295 Hello? Anybody home? 66 00:06:04,295 --> 00:06:08,315 Can I help you? Oh, I'm looking for Frank Benson. 67 00:06:08,315 --> 00:06:11,995 I'm an old friend of his. My name is Halford, Jack Halford. 68 00:06:11,995 --> 00:06:13,915 You're Jack? 69 00:06:13,915 --> 00:06:17,615 Yeah, I can see now, granddad's always kept the photos. 70 00:06:17,615 --> 00:06:21,535 You must be Karen. Yeah, come in, I expect he's nodded off. 71 00:06:22,995 --> 00:06:26,355 Gramps? You've got a visitor. 72 00:06:30,155 --> 00:06:35,295 Well, now, Frank, it's been a while. Pisss off. 73 00:06:37,857 --> 00:06:42,617 He was trying to run a strike, he was being slagged off by the Government, 74 00:06:42,617 --> 00:06:49,277 and on top of that he was being smeared in the media for taking money from foreign governments. 75 00:06:49,277 --> 00:06:54,757 You don't think he did? He had his faults, but he was as straight as a telegraph pole. 76 00:06:54,757 --> 00:06:56,477 What did you make of the rumours? 77 00:06:56,477 --> 00:07:00,817 How should I know? I wasn't involved in trade union politics. 78 00:07:00,817 --> 00:07:03,597 You say he had his faults, what? 79 00:07:03,597 --> 00:07:08,197 My dad liked getting his own way, he didn't like being contradicted. 80 00:07:08,197 --> 00:07:09,997 I was a teenage girl. 81 00:07:09,997 --> 00:07:16,877 I had all the usual issues with my dad, you know - clothes, staying out late, boyfriends, smoking. 82 00:07:16,877 --> 00:07:19,617 The stuff everybody goes through. 83 00:07:19,617 --> 00:07:24,857 Only, most people get a chance to work it out. I never did. 84 00:07:26,477 --> 00:07:28,277 I loved him. 85 00:07:28,277 --> 00:07:33,017 Look, I know this must be difficult for you, but could you help us 86 00:07:33,017 --> 00:07:35,837 find people close to him at the time? 87 00:07:35,837 --> 00:07:39,037 You could try Brendan. Who's that? 88 00:07:39,037 --> 00:07:42,317 Brendan Dyer. He was the Deputy General Secretary. 89 00:07:42,317 --> 00:07:46,197 He and his wife, Rose, were very good to me. You're still in touch? Yes. 90 00:07:55,537 --> 00:07:59,757 This is where you'll find them. Thank you, Miss Walsh. Listen... 91 00:07:59,757 --> 00:08:03,477 could you sign this for me? I'm a big fan. 92 00:08:03,477 --> 00:08:06,517 Certainly. To Gerry, with a "G". 93 00:08:09,557 --> 00:08:12,917 Thank you very much. There you go. Bye-bye. 94 00:08:41,408 --> 00:08:45,448 My God, that looks nasty. Something from the forensic pathology lab? 95 00:08:45,448 --> 00:08:47,828 Medication. 96 00:09:07,628 --> 00:09:14,248 Look out! I can confirm that the Security Service did have a file on Joseph Walsh in 1975. 97 00:09:14,248 --> 00:09:18,908 Can I see it? The file was reclassified as inactive when he died, 98 00:09:18,908 --> 00:09:21,348 and after a suitable interval it was destroyed. 99 00:09:23,648 --> 00:09:28,068 Is there any record of what actions the Security Service took? No. 100 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:30,728 We have no reason to assume they took any actions. 101 00:09:30,728 --> 00:09:34,468 A Cabinet Minister asked for action. 102 00:09:34,468 --> 00:09:39,528 He was asking for information. There may have been nothing to report. 103 00:09:39,528 --> 00:09:42,448 If you've destroyed the files, 104 00:09:42,448 --> 00:09:47,388 I want to talk to the officers who were involved in this matter. 105 00:09:47,388 --> 00:09:50,108 We're talking about 30 years ago. 106 00:09:50,108 --> 00:09:55,188 Anyone senior enough to be involved would be long retired, 107 00:09:55,188 --> 00:09:57,248 and indeed quite likely deceased. 108 00:09:57,248 --> 00:10:01,288 A brick wall? I hope you don't feel that we're being uncooperative. 109 00:10:01,288 --> 00:10:06,688 There is an independent commission to whom you can refer any complaint. 110 00:10:12,748 --> 00:10:17,488 How many complaints has the Commission ever upheld? 111 00:10:17,488 --> 00:10:20,708 I'm happy to say that we have a clean sheet. 112 00:10:24,788 --> 00:10:26,368 Look out, mate! 113 00:10:50,555 --> 00:10:53,135 You were top man in the union after Joe Walsh? 114 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:57,335 Oh-ho. There was only one top man. Joe depended on you. 115 00:10:57,335 --> 00:11:01,835 Well, for the everyday things maybe. The old paperwork and that. 116 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:05,575 No, Joe was a real leader, he could hold a mass meeting 117 00:11:05,575 --> 00:11:09,255 in the palm of his hands, and I'm talking hard cases, dockers. 118 00:11:09,255 --> 00:11:15,075 Brendan did a lot of the work and Joe got a lot of the glory. 119 00:11:15,075 --> 00:11:17,935 Were you involved as well, Rose? 120 00:11:17,935 --> 00:11:22,915 Yes, I trained as a teacher, but I became an education officer for the union. That's how we met. 121 00:11:22,915 --> 00:11:27,655 Brendan, you were the last person to see Joe Walsh alive. 122 00:11:27,655 --> 00:11:31,815 Yeah, yes, we'd spent the day with George McCready, the treasurer. 123 00:11:31,815 --> 00:11:33,815 Now Lord McCready? 124 00:11:33,815 --> 00:11:35,455 Yeah. 125 00:11:35,455 --> 00:11:41,435 We were going through the books cos the news had just broken about the missing funds - 126 00:11:41,435 --> 00:11:48,955 Joe and me wanted to check them before the committee got started, and there was something badly wrong. 127 00:11:48,955 --> 00:11:53,315 But Joe couldn't explain it, he was baffled. 128 00:11:53,315 --> 00:11:58,755 Joe was no good at figures! He got a mate to work out his darts score. 129 00:11:58,755 --> 00:12:05,515 Anyway, George had to go and I had an evening meeting, so we left Joe in the office. 130 00:12:28,143 --> 00:12:33,863 We really ought to speak to Lord McCready but unfortunately his office can't find a window for us. 131 00:12:33,863 --> 00:12:37,363 And he's essential to your inquiry, is he? Oh, yeah. 132 00:12:37,363 --> 00:12:40,483 Yes, it's all in the rulebook - 133 00:12:40,483 --> 00:12:43,683 rule ten, sub-paragraph seven. 134 00:12:43,683 --> 00:12:45,963 Yes, Brian, the gist of which is... 135 00:12:45,963 --> 00:12:49,503 Well, McCready and Joe Walsh were the only people in the union 136 00:12:49,503 --> 00:12:53,543 who had the power to authorise payments without going through the executive. 137 00:12:53,543 --> 00:12:58,043 Sandra could just barge in McCready's office with her warrant card. 138 00:12:58,043 --> 00:13:00,883 No, I'll see what I can do. 139 00:13:00,883 --> 00:13:03,423 Thank you, sir. WATCH ALARM SOUNDS 140 00:14:13,678 --> 00:14:15,438 There we are. 141 00:14:17,058 --> 00:14:20,598 Urgh! Carrion? 142 00:14:20,598 --> 00:14:22,818 I beg your pardon? 143 00:14:22,818 --> 00:14:25,578 The flesh of a deceased creature. 144 00:14:25,578 --> 00:14:31,318 I shouldn't be introducing that kind of material into my system. 145 00:14:31,318 --> 00:14:34,498 What? My body is a temple. 146 00:14:34,498 --> 00:14:38,698 I suppose I could have a go at the broccoli and tomato. 147 00:14:38,698 --> 00:14:42,958 This is organic? Have you been taking your pills? 148 00:14:42,958 --> 00:14:45,458 What? 149 00:14:45,458 --> 00:14:48,138 Am I not a picture of health? 150 00:14:48,138 --> 00:14:52,278 Your pills are not about how you look. Have you been taking them? 151 00:14:52,278 --> 00:14:53,738 Yes, of course. 152 00:14:57,878 --> 00:15:00,578 Well, you've not taken today's. 153 00:15:03,438 --> 00:15:07,918 That's because they have to be taken with food, they're just due now. 154 00:15:10,838 --> 00:15:12,298 Swallow. 155 00:15:34,518 --> 00:15:38,018 Oh, Brian, what's Scruffy doing here? 156 00:15:38,018 --> 00:15:41,518 That wasn't Scruffy. That was me. 157 00:15:47,298 --> 00:15:49,418 Right, progress? 158 00:15:49,418 --> 00:15:52,918 Well, Strickland's managed to get us in to see McCready. 159 00:15:52,918 --> 00:15:55,658 And I checked out Dyers' boat. 160 00:15:55,658 --> 00:15:59,998 Brendan paid £7,000 for it in June, 1975. 161 00:15:59,998 --> 00:16:02,738 A few weeks after Joe Walsh died. 162 00:16:02,738 --> 00:16:06,418 Serious money in those days, my first house cost less than that. 163 00:16:06,418 --> 00:16:08,738 Wish I could say the same about my first wife. 164 00:16:08,738 --> 00:16:13,438 That's way more than Brendan Dyer earned in a year. We have to find out where the money came from. 165 00:16:13,438 --> 00:16:19,338 How about the documents? I'm struggling with these accounts. It's complicated stuff. 166 00:16:19,338 --> 00:16:25,098 But I think we should discuss these trade union leaflets. 167 00:16:25,098 --> 00:16:30,998 Gerry, Jack and I were represented by the Police Federation in the job. 168 00:16:30,998 --> 00:16:33,118 Yeah, not that we had any choice. 169 00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:38,598 Yeah, but now we're in UCOS, we're non-unionised. So we're open to exploitation. 170 00:16:38,598 --> 00:16:41,678 We've no collective bargaining rights. 171 00:16:41,678 --> 00:16:43,258 Oh, knock it off, Brian! 172 00:16:43,258 --> 00:16:46,878 What about our employment protection? 173 00:16:46,878 --> 00:16:49,578 I mean, how do we deal with health and safety at work? 174 00:16:49,578 --> 00:16:55,618 Or discrimination as regards, er, gender or disabilities? 175 00:16:55,618 --> 00:16:59,798 Brian, we are in the middle of an inquiry here. Ethnicity, child care. 176 00:16:59,798 --> 00:17:06,038 It's a very good question, Brian, but I think we ought to deal with it out of the presence of management. 177 00:17:10,038 --> 00:17:11,518 Good point. 178 00:17:14,978 --> 00:17:21,098 Right, has anyone got anything to say about the case? I've been looking at the post mortem report. 179 00:17:21,098 --> 00:17:25,238 I thought that was straightforward, drowning? But injuries to the head and body 180 00:17:25,238 --> 00:17:29,038 were put down to being swept into pilings and bridges by the tide. 181 00:17:29,038 --> 00:17:32,418 Who did the post mortem? Dr Ludlow. Ha-ha! 182 00:17:32,418 --> 00:17:33,858 Handy Andy. 183 00:17:35,398 --> 00:17:40,418 Dr Andrew Ludlow. Struck off by the General Medical Council, 1987. 184 00:17:40,418 --> 00:17:42,538 Died 1998. 185 00:17:42,538 --> 00:17:44,778 Shit. And Walsh was cremated. 186 00:17:46,018 --> 00:17:49,138 OK, get another pathologist to look at the evidence. 187 00:17:49,138 --> 00:17:54,538 Sandra, you know that mate of mine, Frank Benson? The union guy? Yes. I think he could be useful. 188 00:17:54,538 --> 00:17:58,238 He's a bit reluctant to talk to me. I wondered if you'd come along. 189 00:17:58,238 --> 00:18:01,498 I mean, knowing Frank, with a bit of skirt... 190 00:18:01,498 --> 00:18:05,758 I mean, I think he'd probably be more inclined to unbutton... 191 00:18:08,958 --> 00:18:11,838 Would you come along with me? I'll come along. Thank you. 192 00:18:11,838 --> 00:18:14,098 Karen? 193 00:18:14,098 --> 00:18:18,258 Superintendent Pullman. I need to ask Frank some questions. 194 00:18:18,258 --> 00:18:20,598 Maybe he'll talk to her if he won't talk to me. 195 00:18:20,598 --> 00:18:23,918 It's really important, honestly. OK. 196 00:18:23,918 --> 00:18:25,738 Thank you. 197 00:18:28,318 --> 00:18:31,018 I bloody told you. Now, now, Frank, ladies present. 198 00:18:31,018 --> 00:18:34,138 Frank, I'm Detective Superintendent Pullman. 199 00:18:34,138 --> 00:18:38,818 We're reinvestigating the death of Joe Walsh. 200 00:18:40,438 --> 00:18:43,498 All right, but I'm not talking to him. 201 00:18:43,498 --> 00:18:45,238 Let's make some tea. 202 00:18:49,018 --> 00:18:52,438 You were his best man. How d'you fall out with Jack? 203 00:18:52,438 --> 00:18:55,798 Miners' strike. Orgreave, '84. 204 00:18:55,798 --> 00:18:59,678 I was a TUC observer on the picket line when your lot rode us down. 205 00:18:59,678 --> 00:19:03,018 Jack had nothing to do with Orgreave. 206 00:19:03,018 --> 00:19:08,158 How a man with his background could stay in the police after that. 207 00:19:08,158 --> 00:19:11,998 20 years. Long time to hold a grudge. 208 00:19:11,998 --> 00:19:14,938 Not where I come from. 209 00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:21,658 So you're a lifelong trade unionist? I went down the pit first off, 210 00:19:21,658 --> 00:19:26,398 then I became an NUM official, and after that I got a job with the TUC. 211 00:19:26,398 --> 00:19:28,998 And you were involved in the dock strike in 1975? 212 00:19:28,998 --> 00:19:35,798 I was the liaison between the crane drivers and the TUC. But you know all this. Come on. OK. 213 00:19:35,798 --> 00:19:40,098 Joe Walsh, were you close to him? He could have been 214 00:19:40,098 --> 00:19:43,198 the greatest working-class leader since Nye Bevan. 215 00:19:43,198 --> 00:19:45,258 So they had to take him down. 216 00:19:45,258 --> 00:19:47,758 They? MI5, the State. 217 00:19:47,758 --> 00:19:49,898 They had us all sewn up. 218 00:19:49,898 --> 00:19:53,298 How did they do that? Their paid agent did it, their Judas. 219 00:19:53,298 --> 00:19:56,978 There was a mole right at the heart of the union, 220 00:19:56,978 --> 00:20:01,558 and he cooked the books and he killed Joe Walsh. 221 00:20:03,318 --> 00:20:08,018 So you're saying that an MI5 agent framed and murdered Joe Walsh? 222 00:20:08,018 --> 00:20:11,338 They tried it on Scargill in the miners' strike. 223 00:20:11,338 --> 00:20:16,978 They tried to fit him up for taking back-handers from Libya, but they couldn't make it stick. 224 00:20:16,978 --> 00:20:21,858 They didn't try to murder him. Who do you think this mole was? 225 00:20:21,858 --> 00:20:24,118 As God is my witness, if I knew him... 226 00:20:32,111 --> 00:20:35,711 Karen... Karen. 227 00:20:35,711 --> 00:20:40,731 Don't worry, Gramps. We'll sort it out. Let's get you to the bathroom. You'd better go. Thank you. 228 00:22:40,802 --> 00:22:42,882 You're doing a wonderful job. 229 00:22:44,013 --> 00:22:48,453 I've checked the clear-up figures - outstanding. Thank you. 230 00:22:48,453 --> 00:22:52,073 You were treasurer of the Crane Drivers' Union in 1975. 231 00:22:52,073 --> 00:22:55,513 When did you see something was wrong with the accounts? 232 00:22:55,513 --> 00:22:57,753 I was an elected official, 233 00:22:57,753 --> 00:23:01,613 responsible for taking an overview of financial matters. 234 00:23:01,613 --> 00:23:08,673 Day-to-day transactions were in the hands of a full-time union employee, a book-keeper. Who was that? 235 00:23:08,673 --> 00:23:13,333 Dear old Glenys Heyford. Served the union all her working life. 236 00:23:13,333 --> 00:23:18,893 An absolute treasure in many ways but if the truth be told, she wasn't really up to the job. 237 00:23:18,893 --> 00:23:21,613 Do you know how we could contact her? 238 00:23:21,613 --> 00:23:23,433 Glenys is long gone. 239 00:23:23,433 --> 00:23:27,833 That we're used to. Now, Glenys dealt with the day-to-day figures. 240 00:23:27,833 --> 00:23:34,253 Shortly before Joe Walsh died, I was working with her on a union executive meeting. 241 00:23:34,253 --> 00:23:38,553 We realised funds were missing. Then it was leaked to the press. 242 00:23:38,553 --> 00:23:41,353 By whom? We never got to the bottom of that. 243 00:23:41,353 --> 00:23:44,953 After Joe died, no-one had the heart to pursue it. 244 00:23:44,953 --> 00:23:51,553 Who knew at that point? Me, Glenys, Joe Walsh, Brendan Dyer. 245 00:23:51,553 --> 00:23:56,993 I suppose if Brendan knew, he might have told Rose and Anita Walsh. 246 00:23:56,993 --> 00:24:01,953 Why Anita? Anita used to help out in her school holidays. 247 00:24:01,953 --> 00:24:06,953 You don't know who leaked to the press? Any idea who took the money? 248 00:24:06,953 --> 00:24:13,133 All I can tell you is that Joe took the publicity terribly badly, 249 00:24:13,133 --> 00:24:14,392 and was found dead shortly afterwards. 250 00:24:14,393 --> 00:24:18,933 Well, you see, that's the whole point of free collective bargaining. 251 00:24:18,933 --> 00:24:21,873 Go on, mate, get yourself signed up. 252 00:24:21,873 --> 00:24:26,913 Join the flunkies' union. I mean, you've every right. 253 00:24:26,913 --> 00:24:30,653 You're only a worker in a toff's jacket. 254 00:24:30,653 --> 00:24:34,413 A mouthful of plums don't mean you haven't got rights. 255 00:24:34,413 --> 00:24:40,513 Hang on, just one second, it's here somewhere, just get the glasses on maybe. That's better. 256 00:24:40,513 --> 00:24:43,893 Our colleague, Brian Lane, Lord McCready. 257 00:24:43,893 --> 00:24:45,693 How d'you do? 258 00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:50,113 Now, I just want a quick word about Trade Union rights. 259 00:24:50,113 --> 00:24:53,873 You see, as this book clearly demonstrates - 260 00:24:53,873 --> 00:24:59,133 in the strike in the 1980s, the Government used security services 261 00:24:59,133 --> 00:25:02,813 to try to smear Arthur Scargill and the NUM. 262 00:25:02,813 --> 00:25:06,533 Brian, can we stick to... We see a pattern emerging. 263 00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:11,193 The same tactic was used against Joe Walsh and the Crane Drivers. 264 00:25:11,193 --> 00:25:18,613 We're supposed to be investigating... And my question is, Lord McCready, as a former officer 265 00:25:18,613 --> 00:25:26,413 of the Police Federation, I am well aware of the tactics used by a ruthless secret service 266 00:25:26,413 --> 00:25:31,453 intent on undermining quite legitimate trade union activity. Brian. 267 00:25:31,453 --> 00:25:35,673 What I want to know is, was I a victim of this 268 00:25:35,673 --> 00:25:39,253 totally unacceptable intrusion into my private life? 269 00:25:39,253 --> 00:25:44,613 It's an interesting question, Mr Lane, but I don't see the relevance. 270 00:25:44,613 --> 00:25:46,253 Ha! 271 00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:49,653 So my answer is, no comment. 272 00:25:49,653 --> 00:25:54,973 No comment. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have another appointment with the select committee. 273 00:25:54,973 --> 00:25:57,093 Oh, yes, wouldn't you know. 274 00:25:57,093 --> 00:25:59,613 No comment. No comment. 275 00:25:59,613 --> 00:26:02,813 I think we'll leave it there for today. 276 00:26:02,813 --> 00:26:05,253 I had a valid point to make. Yes, and you made it. 277 00:26:05,253 --> 00:26:07,453 Did I or did I not? You did. 278 00:26:07,453 --> 00:26:11,153 Didn't I have a valid point? Yes, and you made it! He knows as well. 279 00:30:36,777 --> 00:30:41,057 Hello? More questions? 280 00:30:41,057 --> 00:30:43,137 I hope this isn't going to take long. 281 00:30:43,137 --> 00:30:49,337 You said you weren't involved with your father's union work. All right. 282 00:30:49,337 --> 00:30:54,617 Look, I didn't want to go there. I've been through a lot dealing with what happened to my dad. 283 00:30:54,617 --> 00:31:00,177 So if I have to revisit the time of his death, I'd rather do it with a shrink and not a detective. 284 00:31:00,177 --> 00:31:02,597 No offence. None taken. 285 00:31:04,157 --> 00:31:06,517 I do understand what you mean, Anita. 286 00:31:06,517 --> 00:31:11,277 I lost my dad when I was 14 and I'm still working it out, shrink and all. 287 00:31:15,497 --> 00:31:17,317 Do you fancy a drink? 288 00:31:20,177 --> 00:31:22,137 Yeah, I think I might have gone off duty. 289 00:31:23,777 --> 00:31:28,037 Oh, these trips down memory lane never do me any good at all. 290 00:31:30,537 --> 00:31:35,077 40 years. Old Frank wasn't a bad-looking lad in those days. 291 00:31:37,657 --> 00:31:42,077 And you, as Frank said in his speech, 292 00:31:42,077 --> 00:31:44,157 you were an English rose. 293 00:31:44,157 --> 00:31:49,417 Oh, I know I should have made it up with Frank years ago, 294 00:31:49,417 --> 00:31:51,397 and now he's hasn't got long. 295 00:31:53,497 --> 00:31:56,097 Oh...that picnic. 296 00:31:56,097 --> 00:31:58,017 He got plastered. 297 00:31:58,017 --> 00:32:01,237 I bet that was one lost day in his precious diary. 298 00:32:02,837 --> 00:32:05,057 Of course! 299 00:32:05,057 --> 00:32:08,757 The bugger always kept a diary. 300 00:32:08,757 --> 00:32:12,477 I could get used to a place like this. 301 00:32:12,477 --> 00:32:17,497 Yep, the truth is, I've got it all but I still keep on striving, 302 00:32:17,497 --> 00:32:22,737 churning out the books, sweating over the reviews, totting up the royalties. 303 00:32:22,737 --> 00:32:24,497 You're just like me, 304 00:32:24,497 --> 00:32:30,817 beavering away, waiting for a pat on the head that says, "Yep, you've done enough, Daddy's pleased." 305 00:32:30,817 --> 00:32:33,697 And now it's never going to come. 306 00:32:34,737 --> 00:32:38,437 And...it may never have, anyway. 307 00:32:38,437 --> 00:32:40,817 Surely he'd have been very proud of you? 308 00:32:40,817 --> 00:32:44,037 He'd have hated the stuff I write. 309 00:32:44,037 --> 00:32:47,997 My dad's idea of a good read was Jack London or Maxim Gorky. 310 00:32:47,997 --> 00:32:52,437 He even thought Orwell was a bourgeois sell-out. 311 00:32:54,397 --> 00:32:59,177 Anita, did anything in your father's behaviour suggest to you 312 00:32:59,177 --> 00:33:03,037 that he thought that somebody in his intimate circle was spying on him? 313 00:33:03,037 --> 00:33:08,437 Because at the time, there was this strong suspicion there was an MI5 mole in the union. 314 00:33:10,037 --> 00:33:15,977 I made the tea, I wrote slogans on placards, I wasn't in the loop, Sandra. 315 00:33:30,681 --> 00:33:34,561 Turn that light off! If they're out there, they'll know. 316 00:33:34,561 --> 00:33:36,721 What? Who'll know what? 317 00:33:36,721 --> 00:33:38,581 Shh! 318 00:33:40,581 --> 00:33:44,621 If they're out there watching, they'll know I'm sweeping the house. 319 00:33:44,621 --> 00:33:47,441 Sweeping it? For bugs! 320 00:33:47,441 --> 00:33:51,061 What? Electronic listening devices! 321 00:33:51,061 --> 00:33:56,421 That's ridiculous. Brian, there is nobody watching this house, and you know it. 322 00:33:56,421 --> 00:33:59,321 Esther, I've been a policeman and a unionist. 323 00:33:59,321 --> 00:34:03,901 No-one knows better than I how far these spooks will go to obtain useful information. 324 00:34:03,901 --> 00:34:06,721 You haven't got any useful information. 325 00:34:06,721 --> 00:34:09,281 What? You haven't... 326 00:34:09,281 --> 00:34:12,361 You have not got any useful information. 327 00:34:12,361 --> 00:34:15,561 You've no idea the lengths to which these people will go! 328 00:34:18,241 --> 00:34:21,081 Brian, that looks incredibly dangerous. 329 00:34:22,601 --> 00:34:26,741 You've been throwing your pills away again, haven't you? 330 00:34:26,741 --> 00:34:31,721 Don't be ridiculous. I found one in the plant pot. That was a slug pellet. 331 00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:33,541 There aren't any slugs in my house. 332 00:34:33,541 --> 00:34:36,001 Because they're exceedingly good pellets. 333 00:34:41,561 --> 00:34:43,061 Ohhh! 334 00:34:43,061 --> 00:34:47,001 Come back to bed, Brian. Agh! 335 00:35:28,721 --> 00:35:34,101 Howzat! You see, I'm a great loss to English cricket. 336 00:35:34,101 --> 00:35:37,221 I mean, I've got the talent but no coaching. Morning, Gerry. 337 00:35:37,221 --> 00:35:38,921 What did you do to your head? 338 00:35:38,921 --> 00:35:41,001 Nothing. 339 00:35:41,001 --> 00:35:43,081 I've been talking to Esther. 340 00:35:43,081 --> 00:35:47,381 You've been a very bad boy. Esther gets some daft ideas in her head. 341 00:35:47,381 --> 00:35:49,441 You haven't been taking your medicine. 342 00:35:49,441 --> 00:35:52,321 She doesn't understand, Gerry. 343 00:35:52,321 --> 00:35:55,601 I can't go on poisoning my system with chemicals. 344 00:35:55,601 --> 00:36:01,161 The point is, your system poisons itself if it's left on its own. 345 00:36:01,161 --> 00:36:05,261 Your body's churning out dodgy chemicals. You need these to level it out. 346 00:36:05,261 --> 00:36:08,121 I'm all right, really. No you're not, Brian. 347 00:36:08,121 --> 00:36:11,441 I've got to tell you, mate, you haven't been doing your job. 348 00:36:11,441 --> 00:36:14,841 Oh, come on! No, no, listen. 349 00:36:14,841 --> 00:36:21,101 This team relies on you to do the balls-aching crap, like these accounts. 350 00:36:21,101 --> 00:36:23,721 But you've been dodging the column! 351 00:36:23,721 --> 00:36:26,081 Yeah, well, it's difficult. 352 00:36:26,081 --> 00:36:31,481 It's impossible if you don't look after yourself properly. Now, come on, take this. 353 00:36:32,701 --> 00:36:33,801 Go on. 354 00:36:35,781 --> 00:36:37,041 Here... 355 00:36:38,501 --> 00:36:41,281 ..and no cheating. 356 00:36:48,281 --> 00:36:50,401 Open wide. 357 00:36:51,461 --> 00:36:54,001 No, again, come on, properly. 358 00:36:57,041 --> 00:36:59,401 Yeah, good boy. 359 00:36:59,401 --> 00:37:05,441 Now, we're gonna carry on like this and in no time at all, you'll be back to your old self. 360 00:37:05,441 --> 00:37:07,481 Which is quite bad enough. 361 00:37:24,101 --> 00:37:26,541 SIREN WAILS 362 00:37:35,101 --> 00:37:38,941 He was really bad this morning, so I sent for the ambulance. 363 00:37:38,941 --> 00:37:41,281 Let me know when I can see him. If he'll let me. 364 00:37:41,281 --> 00:37:43,101 Really, he'll want you to. 365 00:37:43,101 --> 00:37:45,041 He was so glad you got in touch. 366 00:37:45,041 --> 00:37:47,481 Thanks, Karen. We'll take care of it. 367 00:37:48,861 --> 00:37:53,421 30th April, 1975, total cheques 368 00:37:53,421 --> 00:37:57,881 and cash received, £2,375.49. 369 00:37:59,601 --> 00:38:01,681 Hold on, hold on, look. 370 00:38:01,681 --> 00:38:07,961 14th May, £2,375.49 paid into bank. 371 00:38:07,961 --> 00:38:09,781 There's a pattern emerging. 372 00:38:09,781 --> 00:38:13,241 Not to me there's not. Morning, Brian. Morning, Gerry. 373 00:38:13,241 --> 00:38:15,641 Morning, Sandra. Morning, Jack. 374 00:38:20,729 --> 00:38:22,789 Got Frank's diaries. 375 00:38:22,789 --> 00:38:25,889 He never used names in his diaries, only initials. 376 00:38:25,889 --> 00:38:30,829 JW, BD, GM, MS, GH. 377 00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:35,749 So, JW - Joe Walsh, BD - Brendan Dyer, GM - George McCready. 378 00:38:35,749 --> 00:38:37,789 What are the other initials? Er, MS. 379 00:38:37,789 --> 00:38:43,329 No, that doesn't ring any bells. Can you check with Dyer about that? Sure. Listen to this, it's a corker. 380 00:38:43,329 --> 00:38:46,509 GM - that's McCready - 381 00:38:46,509 --> 00:38:50,409 "Late for meeting, looking flustered, lipstick on collar. 382 00:38:50,409 --> 00:38:53,549 "GH arrived just after, breathless. 383 00:38:53,549 --> 00:38:56,549 "Halfway through meeting before she realised 384 00:38:56,549 --> 00:39:01,429 "she hadn't done up all her blouse buttons." That's what I call industrial action. 385 00:39:01,429 --> 00:39:06,389 McCready spent his whole life under the suspicion of sexual impropriety. 386 00:39:06,389 --> 00:39:11,469 GH, who's GH? Glynis Heyford. The book-keeper. She's all over these documents. 387 00:39:11,469 --> 00:39:15,089 So we've got the treasurer knocking off the book keeper and 30 years on, 388 00:39:15,089 --> 00:39:18,969 misrepresenting her as an incompetent. Nice man. I've got it! 389 00:39:18,969 --> 00:39:21,729 This is an old-fashioned fraud. 390 00:39:21,729 --> 00:39:23,929 It's called "teeming and lading". 391 00:39:23,929 --> 00:39:28,049 You take money out in cash and you make up the difference 392 00:39:28,049 --> 00:39:31,749 by banking part of next month's income as if it was this month's. 393 00:39:31,749 --> 00:39:36,949 So that's why the banking was done a fortnight after the accounts were recorded. Exactly. 394 00:39:36,949 --> 00:39:39,169 But you can't keep that up long, surely? 395 00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:44,209 If you keep taking cash out, there must be a deficit that next month's income can't cover? 396 00:39:44,209 --> 00:39:47,949 Sure. And if you're not going to be caught out, you need to make up 397 00:39:47,949 --> 00:39:51,329 the deficiency with lump-sum payments from somewhere. 398 00:39:51,329 --> 00:39:57,409 In this case, cheques coming in from a bank that's known to do a lot of business with the Soviet Union. 399 00:39:57,409 --> 00:40:02,969 So Soviet cheques were coming in and cash was surreptitiously being taken out. 400 00:40:02,969 --> 00:40:06,389 Joe Walsh couldn't have set this up, but he should have spotted it. 401 00:40:06,389 --> 00:40:09,009 No, he wasn't into figures, not a man for detail. 402 00:40:09,009 --> 00:40:13,249 The way things were run at the union, it had to be the treasurer 403 00:40:13,249 --> 00:40:15,589 and the book-keeper working together. 404 00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:20,869 I had a workplace liaison with an older woman. 405 00:40:20,869 --> 00:40:25,849 So what? Good grief, people were at it all the time. 406 00:40:25,849 --> 00:40:28,729 We're talking about your complicity in a fraud. 407 00:40:28,729 --> 00:40:34,889 When Joe Walsh was found dead, that seemed to confirm his responsibility for the financial irregularities. 408 00:40:34,889 --> 00:40:39,889 Nobody looked very hard at the evidence, but it is all there. 409 00:40:39,889 --> 00:40:42,609 See if you can get a prosecution going, then. 410 00:40:42,609 --> 00:40:45,389 I know what you'll get from the DPP. 411 00:40:45,389 --> 00:40:49,049 "Not in the public interest." You think you're fireproof. 412 00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:54,309 So you were the MI5 mole in the union? 413 00:40:54,309 --> 00:41:01,429 Joe Walsh was on the verge of bringing down a Labour Government. I did what I thought was right. Mm. 414 00:41:01,429 --> 00:41:04,189 You haven't suffered for it, have you, My Lord? 415 00:41:04,189 --> 00:41:08,889 Joe Walsh wasn't only framed, he died under suspicious circumstances. 416 00:41:08,889 --> 00:41:12,909 We've had a pathologist look at the reports and the photographs 417 00:41:12,909 --> 00:41:18,529 and she says that he could have been struck over the head before he entered the water. 418 00:41:18,529 --> 00:41:20,149 Now, wait a minute. 419 00:41:20,149 --> 00:41:25,529 Since he wasn't responsible for the fraud, he hardly had a motive for suicide. 420 00:41:25,529 --> 00:41:29,549 We're treating this as a murder investigation. Now, now... 421 00:41:29,549 --> 00:41:34,689 I cooked the books for HMG, but I didn't kill Joe. 422 00:41:34,689 --> 00:41:38,189 That day in the office, I went straight to a public meeting. 423 00:41:38,189 --> 00:41:43,609 There were witnesses, minutes taken, even, if I remember right, photographs. 424 00:41:43,609 --> 00:41:45,149 We'll check. 425 00:41:45,149 --> 00:41:47,649 If you must. 426 00:41:47,649 --> 00:41:49,929 But if Joe really was murdered... 427 00:41:51,649 --> 00:41:53,469 Well? 428 00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:58,249 ..I left him with Brendan Dyer the day he died. 429 00:41:58,249 --> 00:42:00,489 Now, there was a man with a motive. 430 00:42:13,097 --> 00:42:16,897 Of course I couldn't have afforded this on what I was earning. 431 00:42:16,897 --> 00:42:21,397 Rose's aunt in New Zealand died and she didn't have any kids so... 432 00:42:21,397 --> 00:42:24,457 she left Rose a tidy little sum for them days. 433 00:42:24,457 --> 00:42:26,397 So, that's one matter cleared up. 434 00:42:26,397 --> 00:42:29,217 Now, we've been going through Frank Benson's diary. 435 00:42:29,217 --> 00:42:34,617 Now, we've identified most of the initials, but there's one that still puzzles us - MS. 436 00:42:34,617 --> 00:42:37,297 MOBILE PHONE RINGS Oh, sorry about that, excuse me. 437 00:42:37,297 --> 00:42:39,477 MS? Yeah. 438 00:42:39,477 --> 00:42:46,977 "MS put his oar in, same old bull, got up JW's nose more than ever." 439 00:42:46,977 --> 00:42:49,497 That'll be Trotsky. 440 00:42:49,497 --> 00:42:52,317 Trotsky? That's what Joe called him. 441 00:42:52,317 --> 00:42:54,677 Mark somebody. Mark Seroyan, that's it. 442 00:42:54,677 --> 00:42:58,977 Seroyan? He was a student. Fancied himself as a political activist. 443 00:42:58,977 --> 00:43:02,597 Was always flogging newspapers down the dock gates. 444 00:43:02,597 --> 00:43:06,757 Then when the strike kicked off, well, it was all over us, right? 445 00:43:06,757 --> 00:43:09,217 So we let him do the photocopying, make the tea, 446 00:43:09,217 --> 00:43:12,477 because he loved it and we needed all the help we could get. 447 00:43:12,477 --> 00:43:15,637 I think he thought it was Act One of the Revolution. 448 00:43:15,637 --> 00:43:18,217 And Joe Walsh didn't like him? Nah. 449 00:43:19,822 --> 00:43:22,742 Joe was on strike in order to save the docks, right? 450 00:43:22,742 --> 00:43:29,482 The last thing he needed was some kid running around winding the lads up to make impossible demands. 451 00:43:29,482 --> 00:43:32,842 He would've gone ballistic if he'd known about Anita. 452 00:43:32,842 --> 00:43:36,842 Known what? Well, Anita and him had a bit of a do together, you know? 453 00:43:36,842 --> 00:43:41,622 And Joe didn't know? Like I said, there'd have been trouble if he had. 454 00:43:41,622 --> 00:43:43,522 Brendan, we'll have to talk to Rose. 455 00:43:43,522 --> 00:43:48,462 She's at home packing. I'll write the address down for you. Thanks. 456 00:43:48,462 --> 00:43:51,702 You'll have to be quick, we are catching the evening tide. 457 00:43:52,862 --> 00:43:58,942 (You hope.) McCready told Sandra that Joe Walsh and Rose were having a bit of a thing. 458 00:43:58,942 --> 00:44:01,422 Christ, I miss the '70s! 459 00:44:01,422 --> 00:44:05,702 Sandra, yeah, we've identified MS. 460 00:44:05,702 --> 00:44:08,542 A guy called Mark Seroyan. 461 00:44:08,542 --> 00:44:13,182 And we've just been told that he was having a thing with Anita Walsh. 462 00:44:13,182 --> 00:44:19,102 He's in for £20 million by Friday or he's out. I've got investors fighting for a piece of this stadium. 463 00:44:19,102 --> 00:44:22,562 They're in the office right now. 464 00:44:22,562 --> 00:44:25,142 Well, the ball's in his court. 465 00:44:25,142 --> 00:44:29,282 The Olympics are doing wonders for the East End, I believe, Mr Seroyan. 466 00:44:29,282 --> 00:44:32,162 Well, if you take the risks, you deserve the rewards. 467 00:44:32,162 --> 00:44:34,282 The revolution's been postponed, then? 468 00:44:34,282 --> 00:44:38,062 Capitalism IS revolution. Marx understood that. 469 00:44:38,062 --> 00:44:41,902 Look at the docklands 30 years ago and the docklands today. 470 00:44:41,902 --> 00:44:45,662 "All that is solid melts into air." 471 00:44:45,662 --> 00:44:48,142 "All that is holy is profaned." 472 00:44:48,142 --> 00:44:50,742 Communist Manifesto, 1848. 473 00:44:50,742 --> 00:44:52,902 But that's not what we're here about. 474 00:44:52,902 --> 00:44:57,462 You were involved with the Crane Drivers' Union at the time of Joe Walsh's death. 475 00:44:57,462 --> 00:45:02,562 That's putting it strongly. I was trying to influence the line the union took, 476 00:45:02,562 --> 00:45:04,902 and quite frankly, I wasn't very successful. 477 00:45:04,902 --> 00:45:07,642 Which is no bad thing in the light of history. 478 00:45:07,642 --> 00:45:12,182 We understand there was friction between you and Joe Walsh. Ha-ha! 479 00:45:12,182 --> 00:45:16,602 At the time, I would have called it, comradely disagreement. 480 00:45:16,602 --> 00:45:18,842 Anita Walsh. 481 00:45:18,842 --> 00:45:21,022 Ah, Anita. 482 00:45:21,022 --> 00:45:23,782 Hasn't that kid done well? 483 00:45:23,782 --> 00:45:25,822 I think she might be worth more than me. 484 00:45:25,822 --> 00:45:27,662 You had a relationship with her. 485 00:45:27,662 --> 00:45:30,302 Student holds hands with schoolgirl. 486 00:45:30,302 --> 00:45:32,302 Not what I'd call a relationship. 487 00:45:32,302 --> 00:45:34,582 Where were you the night Joe Walsh died? 488 00:45:34,582 --> 00:45:36,682 With Anita actually. 489 00:45:36,682 --> 00:45:38,382 I, er... 490 00:45:38,382 --> 00:45:42,422 I dragged her off to an Italian film, The Organiser. 491 00:45:42,422 --> 00:45:46,222 Marcello Mastroianni as a 19th-century trade unionist. 492 00:45:46,222 --> 00:45:48,302 We snogged in the back row. 493 00:45:49,882 --> 00:45:51,702 Ask her. 494 00:45:51,702 --> 00:45:53,822 I thought we were totally discreet. 495 00:45:53,822 --> 00:45:57,002 When you're playing away, someone always clocks it. 496 00:45:57,002 --> 00:46:00,042 So you're confirming that you had an affair with Joe Walsh? 497 00:46:02,462 --> 00:46:04,922 They say power's an aphrodisiac. 498 00:46:06,602 --> 00:46:08,782 It worked for me. 499 00:46:08,782 --> 00:46:12,042 Joe was a very impressive man. Did Brendan know? 500 00:46:12,042 --> 00:46:14,842 No. Does he know now? 501 00:46:17,922 --> 00:46:21,442 If it had been anyone else I would have told him, 502 00:46:21,442 --> 00:46:26,602 and I would have felt better in my conscience for doing so. 503 00:46:26,602 --> 00:46:28,462 But Brendan worshipped Joe. 504 00:46:29,762 --> 00:46:32,162 He loved him far more than I ever did. 505 00:46:32,162 --> 00:46:37,222 It would have been like taking something precious from him. 506 00:46:37,222 --> 00:46:39,982 Well, we're going to have to put it to Brendan now. 507 00:46:41,422 --> 00:46:44,042 We're looking at motives for murder. 508 00:46:47,342 --> 00:46:49,982 Well, I'll tell him. 509 00:46:51,962 --> 00:46:55,342 No, I'm sorry. That's not how it works. 510 00:46:55,342 --> 00:47:00,442 Brendan, this is going to be very difficult for you, but there's no way I can wrap it up. 511 00:47:00,442 --> 00:47:04,762 When did you find out that Rose and Joe Walsh were having an affair? 512 00:47:04,762 --> 00:47:07,642 You what? Rose confirmed it. 513 00:47:07,642 --> 00:47:11,522 No, you're lying. No, Brendan. 514 00:47:11,522 --> 00:47:13,282 Well, I want to talk to Rose then. 515 00:47:13,282 --> 00:47:17,082 Yes, I can appreciate that, but it's important that you talk to us first. 516 00:47:17,082 --> 00:47:18,782 This is a murder inquiry. 517 00:47:18,782 --> 00:47:21,342 You... 518 00:47:21,342 --> 00:47:23,342 You can't... 519 00:47:23,342 --> 00:47:26,862 You can't live with somebody for 30 years and just not know 'em. 520 00:47:26,862 --> 00:47:29,582 That's the question. Did you know at the time? 521 00:47:29,582 --> 00:47:32,542 Of course not! Or everything would have been different. 522 00:47:32,542 --> 00:47:34,722 Maybe everything WAS different. 523 00:47:34,722 --> 00:47:41,122 Maybe you've been painting a picture all these years, protecting the memory of a fallen comrade. No! 524 00:47:41,122 --> 00:47:46,222 Did you kill Joe Walsh? No, no, I didn't know anything about this. 525 00:47:46,222 --> 00:47:50,302 You two have just blown my whole world apart! 526 00:47:55,022 --> 00:47:58,422 In your last interview, you said that on the night Joe Walsh died, 527 00:47:58,422 --> 00:48:02,902 you left him in the office while you went off to a meeting. Who was that meeting with? 528 00:48:02,902 --> 00:48:10,042 Well, we were talking to the miners and the railwaymen's union about them coming out in sympathy. 529 00:48:10,042 --> 00:48:11,722 It all had to be done on the quiet, 530 00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:15,882 you know, because we just assumed that the union was being spied on. 531 00:48:15,882 --> 00:48:21,122 And can anyone you met confirm this? Yeah, um... 532 00:48:21,122 --> 00:48:23,362 well, er... 533 00:48:23,362 --> 00:48:28,762 We are talking about the leadership of these unions 30 years ago. 534 00:48:28,762 --> 00:48:30,342 They're all dead. 535 00:48:30,342 --> 00:48:36,102 Yeah. Brendan, your alibi is that you had a secret meeting with people who are no longer with us. 536 00:48:36,102 --> 00:48:38,042 My alibi? 537 00:48:38,829 --> 00:48:41,229 Mark Seroyan? Where did you drag him up from? 538 00:48:41,229 --> 00:48:44,529 He says you were at the pictures together on the night your father died. 539 00:48:45,649 --> 00:48:51,829 It's not something you're likely to forget, is it? So you can confirm that? Sure. 540 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:58,449 I spent the entire evening watching heroic workers battling against the repressive state apparatus, 541 00:48:58,449 --> 00:49:03,849 as if I didn't get enough of that at home, whilst being groped by a spotty student who smelt of baked beans. 542 00:49:03,849 --> 00:49:07,512 The first in a long line of romantic disappointments. 543 00:49:07,513 --> 00:49:12,333 Brendan was miles away, the night Joe died. I made sure of that... 544 00:49:12,333 --> 00:49:15,313 because Joe and I were together. 545 00:49:15,313 --> 00:49:18,073 Where was this? 546 00:49:18,073 --> 00:49:21,613 In his office. That's where we always met. 547 00:49:22,993 --> 00:49:24,913 So you were together? 548 00:49:24,913 --> 00:49:28,773 Yes. And the doorbell rang, 549 00:49:28,773 --> 00:49:31,173 but we ignored it. 550 00:49:31,173 --> 00:49:36,713 And it kept on ringing, then there was banging on the door and it was this young lad, Mark. 551 00:49:36,713 --> 00:49:38,493 They used to call him Trotsky. 552 00:49:38,493 --> 00:49:44,133 Joe said I should go but I wanted to know what was going on, so I stayed. 553 00:49:44,133 --> 00:49:45,793 And Mark seemed... 554 00:49:45,793 --> 00:49:47,793 very scared. 555 00:49:47,793 --> 00:49:52,133 He wanted to talk to Joe about Anita. 556 00:49:52,133 --> 00:49:55,273 Apparently, they'd been having a relationship. 557 00:49:55,273 --> 00:49:58,753 I'm not your comrade, you pathetic little...! 558 00:49:58,753 --> 00:50:01,833 You're telling me you've been sniffing round my daughter? 559 00:50:01,833 --> 00:50:03,653 Joe was really losing it. 560 00:50:03,653 --> 00:50:07,153 So what did you do then? I was afraid something awful might happen. 561 00:50:07,153 --> 00:50:08,733 Joe had a terrible temper. 562 00:50:10,533 --> 00:50:12,613 Come on, you little toe rag! 563 00:50:12,613 --> 00:50:15,313 And I kept thinking I should do something. 564 00:50:15,313 --> 00:50:19,493 And then Anita suddenly turned up out of nowhere. 565 00:50:19,493 --> 00:50:23,693 Dad, for God's sake, you're killing him! Get off! 566 00:50:25,033 --> 00:50:26,093 Get him off me! 567 00:50:29,933 --> 00:50:31,393 And he goes down. 568 00:50:33,833 --> 00:50:36,573 Dad, Dad, please! 569 00:50:37,893 --> 00:50:39,293 I've killed him! 570 00:50:39,293 --> 00:50:43,553 And then, the... two of them are talking. 571 00:50:43,553 --> 00:50:47,593 Anita, please, leave this with me. I've killed him! 572 00:50:47,593 --> 00:50:50,153 Come here, just go. Go! 573 00:50:50,153 --> 00:50:52,913 You were never here, understand? 574 00:50:52,913 --> 00:50:54,453 Just go, go! 575 00:50:56,973 --> 00:50:59,453 Anita ran off and so did I. 576 00:50:59,453 --> 00:51:02,573 But you never did anything or told anyone? 577 00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:04,913 He was dead. 578 00:51:04,913 --> 00:51:06,653 What good could I have done? 579 00:51:06,653 --> 00:51:10,493 And think of the harm. Harm to Brendan, harm to Anita. 580 00:51:10,493 --> 00:51:14,573 Think about it. You should have gone to the police, Rose. 581 00:51:14,573 --> 00:51:19,853 Don't you think I've questioned what I did every single day of my life for the last 30 years? 582 00:51:28,393 --> 00:51:31,633 OK, Jack. Yeah, thanks, bye. 583 00:51:31,633 --> 00:51:36,493 I'm sorry, Anita, but I'm going to have to ask you to accompany us to the station. 584 00:51:36,493 --> 00:51:38,033 What? 585 00:51:38,033 --> 00:51:43,733 I'm arresting you on suspicion of murdering Joseph Walsh. You do not have to say anything... 586 00:51:43,733 --> 00:51:48,993 I know that by heart. I've written it enough times. You could make a macro of it. 587 00:51:48,993 --> 00:51:52,453 Then you'd only have to hit the one key. Let's go. 588 00:51:54,793 --> 00:52:00,053 A witness puts you on the quayside with Walsh, unconscious, perhaps dead. 589 00:52:00,053 --> 00:52:01,833 Did you put him in the river? 590 00:52:01,833 --> 00:52:05,433 That's not quite how it was. 591 00:52:07,013 --> 00:52:09,733 After Anita went, I... 592 00:52:09,733 --> 00:52:11,933 I threw the pipe 593 00:52:11,933 --> 00:52:13,833 into the river. 594 00:52:13,833 --> 00:52:18,753 I thought, I don't know, fingerprints, evidence, I wanted to confuse things. 595 00:52:18,753 --> 00:52:21,773 I needed to make it look like an accident, 596 00:52:21,773 --> 00:52:25,673 so I decided to pull Joe's body... 597 00:52:25,673 --> 00:52:27,993 into the water too. 598 00:52:43,053 --> 00:52:44,193 Come on, you little...! 599 00:52:53,873 --> 00:52:55,493 It was an accident. 600 00:52:55,493 --> 00:52:57,753 He lost his balance. 601 00:53:00,873 --> 00:53:04,433 He never came up again. Did Anita know about this? 602 00:53:06,573 --> 00:53:06,673 I only spoke to her the once... 603 00:53:06,673 --> 00:53:10,393 to make sure we were on the same page about where we were that night. 604 00:53:15,153 --> 00:53:19,293 I wanted to tell her what happened, try to explain, but... 605 00:53:19,293 --> 00:53:21,473 she was so angry with me. 606 00:53:21,473 --> 00:53:23,953 You didn't tell her he wasn't already dead? 607 00:53:23,953 --> 00:53:25,433 I couldn't. 608 00:53:27,173 --> 00:53:30,153 How could I tell her what I'd done? 609 00:53:30,153 --> 00:53:31,953 We didn't speak again. 610 00:53:34,073 --> 00:53:36,353 You mean I didn't kill him? 611 00:53:36,353 --> 00:53:40,053 No. He was alive when you left the scene. 612 00:53:41,813 --> 00:53:46,293 Whether the injury was ultimately the cause of death, I can't decide on that, 613 00:53:46,293 --> 00:53:49,713 but we'll submit a report to the Crown Prosecution Service, 614 00:53:49,713 --> 00:53:53,133 and then they'll decide who gets charged with what. 615 00:53:54,713 --> 00:53:57,493 A 30-year nightmare. 616 00:54:57,408 --> 00:54:59,708 First thing this morning. 617 00:54:59,708 --> 00:55:02,528 It's a result, but not the one I expected. 618 00:55:02,528 --> 00:55:04,368 Yes, well... 619 00:55:04,368 --> 00:55:07,128 you look after yourself, Frank. 620 00:55:09,068 --> 00:55:10,508 Jack... 621 00:55:13,148 --> 00:55:17,888 ..I never told you... how sorry I was about...Mary. 622 00:55:17,888 --> 00:55:20,088 Yeah, well, you don't need to. 623 00:55:20,088 --> 00:55:23,768 I was more than sorry, Jack. I was heartbroken. 624 00:55:26,528 --> 00:55:28,748 I can say it now. 625 00:55:28,748 --> 00:55:30,728 I was in love with her. 626 00:55:30,728 --> 00:55:33,288 Ever and always. 627 00:55:33,288 --> 00:55:37,628 Look, you don't have to... I do, I need to tell you. 628 00:55:38,808 --> 00:55:41,728 I tried to take her from you. 629 00:55:41,728 --> 00:55:43,828 Bloody hopeless. 630 00:55:43,828 --> 00:55:47,028 She did nothing wrong, it was all on my side. 631 00:55:47,028 --> 00:55:51,388 She kept it a secret because of our friendship. 632 00:55:52,448 --> 00:55:54,708 Not the strike, then? Nah. 633 00:55:56,308 --> 00:56:01,168 20 years of having the world's happiest couple shoved in my face, 634 00:56:01,168 --> 00:56:03,508 I couldn't take it any more. 635 00:56:16,563 --> 00:56:19,183 She was... Yes. 636 00:56:21,083 --> 00:56:23,803 Best not leave it so long next time, eh, Jack? 637 00:56:25,683 --> 00:56:27,163 Best not. 638 00:56:34,043 --> 00:56:37,823 So, I suppose you think you're a bit of a dark horse, eh, Mary? 639 00:56:39,403 --> 00:56:41,683 Well, actually, I knew all along. 640 00:56:41,683 --> 00:56:43,643 I'm a detective, remember? 641 00:56:43,643 --> 00:56:46,303 You didn't deceive me. 642 00:56:46,303 --> 00:56:50,743 So, you've no secrets, no reason to feel guilty. 643 00:56:52,663 --> 00:56:55,683 You just sleep easy, eh? 644 00:56:55,683 --> 00:56:57,143 Good night, love. 645 00:56:59,903 --> 00:57:02,463 ♪ It's all right, it's OK 646 00:57:02,463 --> 00:57:05,803 ♪ Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey 647 00:57:05,803 --> 00:57:07,923 ♪ It's all right, I say it's OK 648 00:57:07,923 --> 00:57:10,403 ♪ Listen to what I say 649 00:57:10,453 --> 00:57:15,003 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 56767

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