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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,381 --> 00:00:08,275 THE FOLLOWING EPISODE CONTAINS DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE 2 00:00:08,299 --> 00:00:09,652 WHICH MAY BE DISTURBING FOR SOME VIEWERS 3 00:00:09,676 --> 00:00:11,487 IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW HAS EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ABUSE 4 00:00:11,511 --> 00:00:14,471 PLEASE VISIT WANNATALKABOUTIT.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION AND CRISIS RESOURCES 5 00:00:19,978 --> 00:00:21,538 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 6 00:00:21,563 --> 00:00:23,940 - [woman 1] You never thought it was wrong? - [woman 2] No. 7 00:00:24,024 --> 00:00:26,064 - [woman 1] You're always obedient? - [woman 2] Yes. 8 00:00:26,109 --> 00:00:27,318 It's not that weird. 9 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:31,489 [woman 2] Why isn't it weird? Do you have to do everything he says, then? 10 00:00:31,573 --> 00:00:32,741 Even having sex? 11 00:00:33,575 --> 00:00:36,619 [woman 1] Pastor Lee is God. It's okay. 12 00:00:37,203 --> 00:00:39,706 If he says it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 13 00:00:42,542 --> 00:00:44,210 [woman 3] "I do this because I love you." 14 00:00:44,961 --> 00:00:46,504 [woman 4] Because he's God. 15 00:00:46,588 --> 00:00:50,216 [woman 5] He wanted to see my breasts. He asked me to undress. 16 00:00:51,092 --> 00:00:52,761 [woman 4] And he told me to moan. 17 00:00:53,636 --> 00:00:56,973 [Jeong-hye] He looked... very closely at that part. 18 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:58,558 He just stared at it. 19 00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:03,354 [Lee Jae-rock] Even if I have some flaws, 20 00:01:03,438 --> 00:01:05,315 even if I kissed somebody, 21 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:08,485 and even if I laid next to them, 22 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:11,404 I believe that you will forgive me. 23 00:01:11,488 --> 00:01:13,490 I have no shame in front of God. 24 00:01:13,573 --> 00:01:15,283 I truly don't feel ashamed. 25 00:01:18,995 --> 00:01:20,663 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 26 00:01:21,706 --> 00:01:22,749 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,461 IN THE NAME OF GOD: A HOLY BETRAYAL 28 00:01:33,259 --> 00:01:38,848 GOD OF MANMIN WHO WENT TO PRISON 29 00:01:40,058 --> 00:01:41,434 [New Age music] 30 00:01:41,518 --> 00:01:42,519 [woman speaking Korean] 31 00:01:42,602 --> 00:01:44,938 [interpreter] Our beloved members of Manmin, 32 00:01:45,438 --> 00:01:47,565 welcome to the pastor's castle. 33 00:01:47,690 --> 00:01:48,858 Welcome! 34 00:01:48,942 --> 00:01:51,402 [ceremonial music plays under ominous soundtrack] 35 00:01:51,486 --> 00:01:52,946 [birdsong] 36 00:01:55,323 --> 00:01:58,743 Our Father is preparing this wonderful place 37 00:01:59,369 --> 00:02:01,913 for all the faithful believers of Manmin. 38 00:02:07,752 --> 00:02:09,379 There are five levels to Heaven. 39 00:02:09,462 --> 00:02:11,965 In the first one, you stay in a place called Paradise. 40 00:02:12,048 --> 00:02:13,049 PARADISE 41 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:15,176 The Kingdom of Heaven is the second. 42 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:17,140 FIRST KINGDOM OF HEAVEN SECOND KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 43 00:02:17,178 --> 00:02:19,305 The Second Kingdom is above Paradise. 44 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:21,391 Then the Third Kingdom. 45 00:02:21,474 --> 00:02:22,600 THIRD KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 46 00:02:22,684 --> 00:02:24,853 And at the very top is New Jerusalem. 47 00:02:24,936 --> 00:02:27,397 NEW JERUSALEM 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,649 In Paradise, you'll live in the fields forever. 49 00:02:29,732 --> 00:02:31,252 MEASURE OF FAITH FIRST LEVEL - PARADISE 50 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:33,027 The First Kingdom has buildings. 51 00:02:33,611 --> 00:02:35,530 In the Second, you get to live in a house. 52 00:02:36,072 --> 00:02:38,199 In the Third, you're given a castle. 53 00:02:38,283 --> 00:02:42,453 And a palace waits for you in New Jerusalem. Or so they say. 54 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:46,958 How thankful are we, knowing we can enter the New Jerusalem. 55 00:02:47,041 --> 00:02:49,419 Thank you so much, dear Father! 56 00:02:49,502 --> 00:02:50,753 Thank you very much! 57 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:53,256 - [applause] - [women] Thank you very much! 58 00:02:56,342 --> 00:02:59,137 Were there any houses you wanted to have for yourselves? 59 00:02:59,220 --> 00:03:00,054 [man] Amen! 60 00:03:00,138 --> 00:03:02,640 Yeah, it's a very big place. 61 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:07,395 The main castle is huge, it's... millions of square footage. 62 00:03:07,478 --> 00:03:11,941 There's an ocean, too, and a beautiful lake that you will all love. 63 00:03:13,067 --> 00:03:15,486 My goal in life was to end up there. At the best place. 64 00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:17,113 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 65 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,073 The closest to the Throne of God. 66 00:03:19,157 --> 00:03:20,450 KIM MYEONG-JUN FORMER MEMBER 67 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:23,161 Manmin took advantage of that. It's called the Measure of Faith. 68 00:03:23,244 --> 00:03:24,829 TEAM HARMONY KIM MYEONG-JUN, BAPTIST 69 00:03:24,913 --> 00:03:26,456 They turned your faith into a number. 70 00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:29,292 They wrote it on a piece of paper and gave it to you. 71 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:31,294 "Your faith is at 30%." 72 00:03:31,377 --> 00:03:33,338 "Your faith is at 70%." 73 00:03:33,421 --> 00:03:35,590 So that made people go crazy over it. 74 00:03:35,673 --> 00:03:38,092 They also got very anxious. People with a high Measure... 75 00:03:38,176 --> 00:03:39,219 FOURTH LEVEL 02.90 76 00:03:39,302 --> 00:03:42,138 ...were basically like celebrities, and moved up the ranks. 77 00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:46,559 Those who don't get a high Measure fall behind until... they're eliminated. 78 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:47,643 [man sighs] 79 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,607 [Myeong-jun] I was desperate to get higher Measures of Faith. 80 00:03:52,690 --> 00:03:57,237 So I started giving even more, and also investing much more. 81 00:03:58,821 --> 00:03:59,906 [man] Oh, yeah! 82 00:03:59,989 --> 00:04:01,282 FOURTH LEVEL 83 00:04:01,366 --> 00:04:04,369 I... I think I got to three percent on the fourth level. 84 00:04:04,452 --> 00:04:05,995 THIRD LEVEL 85 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:09,165 I was around 40%. The third level. 86 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:14,337 I was on the third level with 60-point-something percent. 87 00:04:14,420 --> 00:04:17,590 Getting to 60% on the third level means you stand on the "Rock of Faith." 88 00:04:17,674 --> 00:04:18,758 LEE KWANG-OH FORMER MEMBER 89 00:04:19,467 --> 00:04:22,470 I got that pretty early, and I was so happy to get it quickly. 90 00:04:22,553 --> 00:04:26,599 I think I was number 800 out of 15,000 people. 91 00:04:28,309 --> 00:04:30,228 That was my rank in Heaven. 92 00:04:30,311 --> 00:04:32,146 It was actually very impressive. 93 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:33,898 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 94 00:04:33,982 --> 00:04:36,651 [Jae-rock] If you have never been to the Rock of Faith, 95 00:04:36,734 --> 00:04:39,320 if you have never received an acknowledgement, 96 00:04:39,404 --> 00:04:41,447 even though I recognize your face, 97 00:04:43,032 --> 00:04:45,201 there's a reason why you haven't made it yet. 98 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:46,869 You need to find out what that is. 99 00:04:48,037 --> 00:04:52,375 Now that I think back, only those people who paid a lot would get high percentages. 100 00:04:52,458 --> 00:04:54,961 That's the conclusion that I've come to. 101 00:05:00,049 --> 00:05:05,972 THOU SHALT NOT STEAL 102 00:05:06,055 --> 00:05:07,307 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 103 00:05:08,516 --> 00:05:11,728 [Jae-rock] In a way, this sermon is a continuation 104 00:05:11,811 --> 00:05:13,813 of the previous sermon that I gave about Hell. 105 00:05:13,896 --> 00:05:16,149 If you don't pay your offerings, 106 00:05:16,232 --> 00:05:19,610 I promise you that the Lord will place a curse upon you. 107 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:20,862 [man] Amen. 108 00:05:21,362 --> 00:05:22,488 I see it often. 109 00:05:23,906 --> 00:05:25,867 If you get into a car crash 110 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:27,869 and break and shatter your bones, 111 00:05:27,952 --> 00:05:29,579 or suffers a hemorrhage, 112 00:05:29,662 --> 00:05:32,790 you see, it's always because of the same reason. 113 00:05:33,541 --> 00:05:36,294 It's obvious. It's because you didn't pay. 114 00:05:36,377 --> 00:05:38,296 You have to pay your offerings. 115 00:05:38,379 --> 00:05:40,423 [chanting] 116 00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:43,843 [unsettling music playing over chanting] 117 00:05:50,808 --> 00:05:53,603 Thank-you offering, sanctuary-building offering, 118 00:05:54,145 --> 00:05:56,105 charity offering, special offering. 119 00:05:56,731 --> 00:05:59,275 During a Bible study, during Feast of Harvest, 120 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:00,985 during Easter. 121 00:06:01,569 --> 00:06:03,780 And there was also one during Christmas. 122 00:06:04,364 --> 00:06:05,615 And a tithe, 123 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:07,909 based on your income before taxes. 124 00:06:11,662 --> 00:06:14,415 [Jae-rock] Some people say that they can't pay the tithe 125 00:06:14,499 --> 00:06:17,251 because they're unemployed and don't have income. 126 00:06:17,335 --> 00:06:19,921 But every single person can pay the tithe. 127 00:06:20,004 --> 00:06:24,258 Even young children have income from New Year's, allowances, 128 00:06:24,342 --> 00:06:28,096 other celebrations, school celebrations and birthdays. 129 00:06:28,596 --> 00:06:34,102 The parents can pay the tithe in their child's name by using their income. 130 00:06:34,185 --> 00:06:36,187 [crackling and squelching] 131 00:06:39,273 --> 00:06:42,944 There are two ways to give money to the Manmin Church. 132 00:06:43,027 --> 00:06:44,654 Offerings and gifts. 133 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:48,157 Offerings are the money you give in offering envelopes, 134 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:50,326 while a gift would be money you give unofficially. 135 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:54,205 [Jang Ho-ki] Offerings are a separate thing. 136 00:06:54,288 --> 00:06:56,624 Members pay offerings and gifts, 137 00:06:56,707 --> 00:06:59,127 even if that means they have no money to live on. 138 00:06:59,627 --> 00:07:02,380 And yet, they always donate, 139 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:04,924 even if they go into debt. 140 00:07:06,342 --> 00:07:08,594 He puts members in competition with each other. 141 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:10,430 to see who can pay more. 142 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:14,016 "You and you. You both got the first place." 143 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,186 "And you, that elder gets third place." 144 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:21,315 I think I must have paid somewhere close to one billion won 145 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:23,901 over the course of 24 years. 146 00:07:23,985 --> 00:07:26,904 I think my family paid over a billion won too. 147 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:32,326 At the very least, it's 800 million. But I think I paid over a billion won. 148 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:34,704 There were many people taken advantage of financially. 149 00:07:34,787 --> 00:07:35,913 JANG HO-KI, PRODUCER, PD NOTE 150 00:07:35,997 --> 00:07:39,375 These people dedicated their lives to giving offerings to the church. 151 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:41,836 He's such an atrocious man, who brainwashed them all... 152 00:07:41,919 --> 00:07:44,547 JANG UN-CHUL, REPORTER AT AMENNEWS.COM REPORTED ON MANMIN CHURCH 153 00:07:44,630 --> 00:07:48,134 ...and then, sadly, used that for his own gain. 154 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:54,140 [grasshoppers chirping] 155 00:07:55,558 --> 00:07:58,686 [man] When you analyze it, a lot of members of the church 156 00:07:58,769 --> 00:08:00,771 had a very poor quality of life. 157 00:08:00,855 --> 00:08:02,655 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CHURCH CHURCH EMPLOYEE 158 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:04,650 In terms of earnings, it's probably fair to say 159 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:09,447 most of the church's members were at the very bottom of the ladder. 160 00:08:10,615 --> 00:08:12,575 Despite that, they gave money to the church. 161 00:08:12,658 --> 00:08:14,285 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 162 00:08:14,368 --> 00:08:17,455 How did that happen? They had two jobs. 163 00:08:17,538 --> 00:08:20,082 [woman] Hey, take this to that table. 164 00:08:22,043 --> 00:08:25,463 [man] They worked hard to earn the money for the offerings. 165 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:29,800 Eight hundred, ten thousand... 166 00:08:29,884 --> 00:08:33,387 They didn't have much money, and a lot of them went into debt. 167 00:08:33,471 --> 00:08:34,791 You leave church after a service. 168 00:08:34,847 --> 00:08:37,058 BYUN SEONG-KWANG, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PD NOTE EPISODE 169 00:08:37,141 --> 00:08:39,769 But at Manmin Church, the members line up and wait afterwards. 170 00:08:39,852 --> 00:08:41,103 [cheering] 171 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:43,481 - [woman 1] Pastor Lee! - [woman 2] Pastor Lee! 172 00:08:43,564 --> 00:08:44,941 [man] Pastor Lee! 173 00:08:45,024 --> 00:08:47,151 [woman 3] Our entire family supports you! 174 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:48,444 Thank you. 175 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:52,406 [Kwang-oh] If you grabbed his hand and asked for a prayer, his car stopped. 176 00:08:54,951 --> 00:08:58,788 A member might get a minute of prayer, 20 or 30 seconds. 177 00:08:58,871 --> 00:08:59,871 Amen! 178 00:09:01,082 --> 00:09:04,085 There's somebody in the car who collects the money envelopes. 179 00:09:04,168 --> 00:09:05,962 He's the director of planning. 180 00:09:06,963 --> 00:09:10,299 As far as I know, a lot of people paid thousands of dollars n offerings 181 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:11,884 to receive his blessings. 182 00:09:11,968 --> 00:09:14,011 May Jesus lay his hand upon you in prayer. 183 00:09:14,095 --> 00:09:15,638 MISSIONARY MEETING FOR BUSINESSPEOPLE 184 00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:18,766 Show us the inspiration, influence, and greatness of the Holy Spirit. 185 00:09:18,849 --> 00:09:19,725 [all] Amen. 186 00:09:19,809 --> 00:09:21,644 We pray that you'll surround us with light. 187 00:09:21,727 --> 00:09:22,727 [all] Amen. 188 00:09:23,604 --> 00:09:26,023 There is a missionary gathering for businesspeople, 189 00:09:26,107 --> 00:09:27,307 those who give the most money. 190 00:09:27,858 --> 00:09:29,527 We were invited to go. 191 00:09:30,444 --> 00:09:33,614 While there, they collect around three to five million won per person. 192 00:09:34,949 --> 00:09:36,325 The tithe from August... 193 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:42,498 There were six or seven people who paid nearly ten million won, 194 00:09:42,999 --> 00:09:45,042 but now, we've got more than 12. 195 00:09:45,126 --> 00:09:46,043 [woman] Amen. 196 00:09:46,127 --> 00:09:48,355 - [man] I'll bring you joy, Father. - [Jae-rock] All right. 197 00:09:48,379 --> 00:09:50,139 [man] Let's go to the car to receive prayers. 198 00:09:50,172 --> 00:09:51,841 - [Jae-rock] Sure. - [man] Over here. 199 00:09:52,717 --> 00:09:54,135 - [Jae-rock] Okay. - [man] Come on. 200 00:09:54,635 --> 00:09:56,846 - Let's hug. - [Jae-rock] Sure, sure. Sure. 201 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:58,931 I got a new car, Pastor. 202 00:09:59,724 --> 00:10:02,184 - Where is it from? - Germany. 203 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:05,396 Father, bless this car. 204 00:10:05,896 --> 00:10:08,649 - Please bless this key as well. - Amen. 205 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:09,984 Bless your light upon it. 206 00:10:10,067 --> 00:10:12,153 - In the name of Jesus! - [group] Amen. 207 00:10:12,236 --> 00:10:13,904 Please, dear God, bless this car. 208 00:10:13,988 --> 00:10:15,698 - [man] Amen. - [Jae-rock] Amen. 209 00:10:19,952 --> 00:10:22,622 [woman] You had to pay to take a picture with Pastor Lee. 210 00:10:23,205 --> 00:10:25,583 I don't remember the exact price. 211 00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:27,543 It started out not being much. 212 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:29,670 But then, there were so many who wanted 213 00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:31,964 to have their picture taken with Pastor Lee, 214 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:34,467 they ended up paying at least a million won per picture. 215 00:10:35,051 --> 00:10:38,179 I'm sure I gave around ten million won for a picture. 216 00:10:54,278 --> 00:10:56,038 [Kwang-oh] These are the pictures I paid for. 217 00:10:58,324 --> 00:11:00,618 I had over 40 of those framed. 218 00:11:06,248 --> 00:11:09,210 The total cost is easily over 400 million won. 219 00:11:10,461 --> 00:11:11,504 MANMIN CHURCH BOOKSTORE 220 00:11:11,587 --> 00:11:14,382 Manmin Church had a store called Manmin Bookstore. 221 00:11:14,465 --> 00:11:16,065 BENEDICTION, EXTRA-LARGE FRAME 80,000 WON 222 00:11:16,092 --> 00:11:17,510 They sold pictures of Jae-rock... 223 00:11:17,593 --> 00:11:18,953 BENEDICTION, LARGE FRAME 50,000 WON 224 00:11:19,011 --> 00:11:22,056 ...key rings, notebooks, all kinds of paraphernalia like that. 225 00:11:22,139 --> 00:11:24,266 And people would buy these things too. 226 00:11:25,685 --> 00:11:27,895 In a way, it's a really shrewd business. 227 00:11:27,978 --> 00:11:30,564 The funniest one for me was Muan Sweet Water. 228 00:11:34,068 --> 00:11:37,196 These people put Muan Sweet Water 229 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,532 in these small spray bottles to make it easier to use. 230 00:11:39,615 --> 00:11:40,491 MUAN SWEET WATER 231 00:11:40,574 --> 00:11:41,575 It was crazy. 232 00:11:41,659 --> 00:11:43,953 You could spray it on to get double eyelids. 233 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:47,331 It was also supposed to fix broken washing machines. 234 00:11:49,458 --> 00:11:52,795 [man] Muan Sweet Water worked its miracle on a broken washing machine. 235 00:11:53,921 --> 00:11:55,715 It was stuck. I was desperate. 236 00:11:55,798 --> 00:11:58,217 I spent ages trying to open it, then it opened with a click 237 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:00,302 right after I sprayed the Muan Sweet Water. 238 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:01,887 The washing machine works well now. 239 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:03,723 Everything is fine now. 240 00:12:04,306 --> 00:12:05,766 Everything is fixed. 241 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:08,227 [woman] The door wouldn't open for over an hour, 242 00:12:08,811 --> 00:12:10,604 but it unbolted with a click 243 00:12:10,688 --> 00:12:13,190 right after it was sprayed with Muan Sweet Water. 244 00:12:14,024 --> 00:12:15,359 [barking] 245 00:12:22,783 --> 00:12:24,785 [Myeong-jun] To Manmin Church, Muan Sweet Water 246 00:12:24,869 --> 00:12:26,620 is like a cure-all for the members. 247 00:12:26,704 --> 00:12:29,915 They say there's this light, and also this power, 248 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:33,753 and something magical in this common water just because Jae-rock prayed over it. 249 00:12:33,836 --> 00:12:35,476 PLEASE GIVE THIS WATER SPIRITUAL POWER... 250 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:40,468 So, they claim that the users can experience some kind of miracle 251 00:12:40,551 --> 00:12:42,511 if you drink it or put it on yourself. 252 00:12:48,976 --> 00:12:50,853 They had a thing called "Mailbox" 253 00:12:50,936 --> 00:12:53,773 where you could call an automatic response system 254 00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:57,485 and you could listen to pre-recorded messages from Pastor Lee. 255 00:12:57,568 --> 00:12:59,403 [woman] This is Manmin Central Church. 256 00:12:59,487 --> 00:13:02,448 Press 10 to start your day with Pastor Lee's prayers. 257 00:13:02,531 --> 00:13:04,241 Press 20 to hear a prayer for recovery. 258 00:13:04,325 --> 00:13:07,661 30 for a three-minute sermon. Press 40 for a prayer for the sick. 259 00:13:08,871 --> 00:13:11,874 Before my grandfather died, he was hospitalized. 260 00:13:11,957 --> 00:13:13,417 I wanted him to heal. 261 00:13:13,501 --> 00:13:17,338 So, I remember I played Jae-rock's voicemail prayers for the sick for him. 262 00:13:17,421 --> 00:13:18,881 I remember it clearly. 263 00:13:20,007 --> 00:13:22,384 [Jae-rock] Let me begin the prayer for the sick. 264 00:13:22,885 --> 00:13:25,387 Place your hand on the place where it hurts. 265 00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:28,265 If you're not ill, then simply put your hand over your heart... 266 00:13:28,349 --> 00:13:30,226 [man] He listened to it for a while, 267 00:13:30,726 --> 00:13:34,522 then he looked at me to take the earphones out. 268 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:37,399 Nevertheless, I made him listen to the whole thing, 269 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:39,568 because I wanted him to listen. 270 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:44,406 I should have just talked to him or gone on a trip with him. Yeah. 271 00:13:45,908 --> 00:13:47,451 [sighs] 272 00:13:50,913 --> 00:13:52,790 It's all about money in the end. 273 00:13:52,873 --> 00:13:55,960 The church is denying it, but they had an enormous amount of money saved up. 274 00:13:56,043 --> 00:13:56,961 GOAL: 1.5 BILLION 275 00:13:57,044 --> 00:13:58,924 SPECIAL TREATMENT PLAN FOR HIGHER-PAYING MEMBERS 276 00:13:58,963 --> 00:14:02,550 [man] With three million won, you could meet him with others who paid the same. 277 00:14:02,633 --> 00:14:05,719 If you paid more, you'd meet him with people who paid that amount too. 278 00:14:05,803 --> 00:14:06,971 It was like that. 279 00:14:07,054 --> 00:14:09,223 If you paid the most, you'd get a private meeting. 280 00:14:09,306 --> 00:14:11,517 Those people paid over 100 million won. 281 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:15,729 [man] How did the church treat people who paid that much money? 282 00:14:18,065 --> 00:14:22,528 Well, those people were basically treated as VIPs by the church associates. 283 00:14:23,153 --> 00:14:25,364 There were people dressed in beautiful hanbok. 284 00:14:25,447 --> 00:14:26,907 They had special seats. 285 00:14:28,325 --> 00:14:31,203 That made them the envy of all Manmin Church members. 286 00:14:32,955 --> 00:14:35,124 Those seats were not just for anybody. 287 00:14:35,207 --> 00:14:39,211 They must have given a lot of offerings, like, really a lot of money, 288 00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:40,921 to dear Pastor Lee. 289 00:14:42,047 --> 00:14:44,967 Honestly, back then, it felt pretty nice. 290 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:46,468 Because of that system... 291 00:14:46,552 --> 00:14:48,072 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 292 00:14:48,137 --> 00:14:51,348 ...my dad paid millions of won every year to the devotion worship 293 00:14:51,432 --> 00:14:53,684 to have my sister sit at the very front. 294 00:14:54,435 --> 00:14:57,646 If you gave more money, you got the right to sit at the front. 295 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,483 [man] Why were those seats so important? 296 00:15:01,984 --> 00:15:05,154 Because you were closer to Pastor Lee. 297 00:15:10,367 --> 00:15:14,330 THOU SHALT NOT KILL 298 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:21,587 Illnesses happen as a result of a sin, as a punishment. 299 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:23,422 You'll never be ill if you don't sin. 300 00:15:23,505 --> 00:15:27,426 Have you ever seen someone fall ill when they've never sinned and are obedient? 301 00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:29,094 - [crowd] Amen. - [woman] Amen. 302 00:15:29,803 --> 00:15:31,221 If you get a deadly illness, 303 00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:35,225 it means that you committed a sin so serious that death is the punishment. 304 00:15:36,518 --> 00:15:39,104 He said to me, "You won't get ill if you don't sin." 305 00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:41,190 "If you're ill, you must have sinned." 306 00:15:41,273 --> 00:15:42,608 He pushed us to believe that. 307 00:15:43,192 --> 00:15:46,820 People thought that going to the hospital reflected a lack of faith. 308 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:48,197 He was proud of that. 309 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:51,909 But in reality, there were illnesses 310 00:15:51,992 --> 00:15:54,536 that could have been stopped if treated in time. 311 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:55,913 But people just prayed, 312 00:15:56,497 --> 00:15:58,207 and many of them ended up dying. 313 00:15:58,290 --> 00:16:00,793 Tuberculosis lives in the Manmin Church. 314 00:16:00,876 --> 00:16:03,337 It's actually a part of its history. 315 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:07,132 The members of the Performing Arts Committee 316 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:09,677 are all in their 20s or 30s. 317 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,681 They all sing and dance together, and as I said, they're all young. 318 00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:16,892 They're all... always in the spotlight. 319 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:19,770 - [in Korean] ♪ Fruits of joy ♪ - ♪ Fruits of joy ♪ 320 00:16:22,773 --> 00:16:27,820 - ♪ I am changed ♪ - ♪ I am changed ♪ 321 00:16:27,903 --> 00:16:31,198 ♪ His love saved me ♪ 322 00:16:32,241 --> 00:16:36,662 Sadly, many wonderful people ended up tragically passing away. 323 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:43,377 My wife... 324 00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:44,336 FORMER MEMBER 325 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:47,256 She passed away in 2006. 326 00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:50,009 [TV theme music] 327 00:16:52,761 --> 00:16:55,431 Hi, dear believers. How are you all doing today? 328 00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:57,683 After the 100th episode special, 329 00:16:57,766 --> 00:17:00,978 God showed his great power through our beloved Pastor Lee... 330 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,249 She was a really pretty girl. She was in the Hallelujah Praising Team. 331 00:17:04,273 --> 00:17:05,524 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CHURCH 332 00:17:05,607 --> 00:17:10,863 She was a very petite and slim girl, with a feminine and beautiful voice. 333 00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:16,326 [husband] She was brushing her teeth, 334 00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:19,204 then she ran up to me with toothpaste in her mouth. 335 00:17:20,330 --> 00:17:21,665 She was bleeding. 336 00:17:22,624 --> 00:17:24,918 I told her we should run to the hospital... 337 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,297 [sighs] 338 00:17:28,797 --> 00:17:30,215 She had tuberculosis. 339 00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:33,969 Faith was supposed to be our treatment. 340 00:17:34,636 --> 00:17:36,472 She was on the praise team. 341 00:17:37,931 --> 00:17:39,475 When we found out about it, 342 00:17:41,602 --> 00:17:43,687 she said her treatment was her faith. 343 00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,695 She said, "I was supposed to only love Jae-rock." 344 00:17:51,779 --> 00:17:56,283 "And now I'm sick because I decided to get married. I'm going to die from it." 345 00:17:56,366 --> 00:17:58,327 She was considered a sinner. 346 00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:01,497 If you get a deadly illness, 347 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:05,793 it means that you committed a sin so serious that death is the punishment. 348 00:18:12,966 --> 00:18:15,177 [husband sobbing] 349 00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:33,153 [husband] Before she passed away, she... 350 00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:35,405 was so very skinny. 351 00:18:36,490 --> 00:18:38,659 And her lungs had basically stopped working. 352 00:18:41,495 --> 00:18:42,495 And she... 353 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,375 died a painful death. 354 00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:52,714 [birds calling] 355 00:19:01,306 --> 00:19:06,061 Aside from tuberculosis, there were a lot of people who suffered from cancer. 356 00:19:07,354 --> 00:19:09,690 When I found out the situation, I thought, 357 00:19:09,773 --> 00:19:14,069 "Is it really faith that prevents these people from going to the hospital?" 358 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,487 "Unbelievable." 359 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:22,911 THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY 360 00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:26,665 You know, I always talk about this in the sermons. 361 00:19:26,748 --> 00:19:30,460 People are affected by the evil spirits because of adultery. 362 00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:32,212 Adulterers 363 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:36,425 are possessed by evil spirits, but they have no idea. 364 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:41,722 They keep committing adultery because they have that spirit in them. 365 00:19:41,805 --> 00:19:43,223 They can't stop. 366 00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:46,727 They don't realize that they are under the influence of evil spirits. 367 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:50,439 Lee Jae-rock was always very emphatic about adultery 368 00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:52,274 and relationships between men and women. 369 00:19:52,357 --> 00:19:54,318 And he would always say, 370 00:19:54,401 --> 00:19:58,447 "Because I don't have any adulterous spirits in me, 371 00:19:58,530 --> 00:20:00,616 I don't feel anything when I see a naked woman." 372 00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:05,537 [man] At one point, they began separating the men from the women. 373 00:20:07,372 --> 00:20:10,584 "Don't sit next to each other. Don't be in the same space." 374 00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:14,630 Men and women couldn't talk to each other. 375 00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:16,840 So, how did they communicate? 376 00:20:16,924 --> 00:20:20,469 Well, you would talk to them through someone else. 377 00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:23,055 In my case, it was my sister. 378 00:20:23,138 --> 00:20:24,973 I would tell the message to her, 379 00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:28,393 and when the other person responded, 380 00:20:28,977 --> 00:20:32,731 my sister would pass that message on to me, and the chain continued. 381 00:20:36,693 --> 00:20:40,239 There was an incident with the letters of repentance in 2010. 382 00:20:40,322 --> 00:20:42,616 "The members have too many sins." 383 00:20:42,699 --> 00:20:44,785 "They lead sinful lives." 384 00:20:46,036 --> 00:20:49,539 I did not think that such sinners would be part of our church. 385 00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:52,668 These are people who gave in to their sexual desires. 386 00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:56,046 And some of them also acted in a very indecent 387 00:20:56,129 --> 00:20:57,881 and totally improper manner. 388 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,010 They said, "If you write a letter to Jae-rock about your sins, 389 00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:03,512 they will be forgiven." 390 00:21:03,595 --> 00:21:05,681 I have cried so desperately... 391 00:21:14,356 --> 00:21:17,943 I cried so that not a single soul would go to Hell, I... 392 00:21:18,026 --> 00:21:19,611 [sobbing] 393 00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:23,448 I didn't know it'd be this bad. 394 00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:32,082 I didn't know that this pain would make my life so... so unbearable. 395 00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:36,962 Please show compassion for us, and forgive us. 396 00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:39,673 Your son begs you. 397 00:21:46,013 --> 00:21:47,264 I'm begging you. 398 00:21:50,892 --> 00:21:52,602 [woman] We had to confess all our secrets. 399 00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:53,937 LETTER BOX OF REPENTANCE 400 00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:58,150 I had to remember holding hands with somebody when I was seven 401 00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:01,069 and what I did with a man when I was 20. 402 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:03,697 Did I do anything else? 403 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:07,326 I had to remember everything and confess it. 404 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:09,286 It was really hard. 405 00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:12,812 [Myeong-jun] Once everyone wrote their letters of repentance, 406 00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:15,250 it became mandatory for all church members. 407 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:16,585 If you didn't do it, 408 00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:19,838 there was no way you could be sure if you would be saved or not. 409 00:22:19,921 --> 00:22:22,174 It was something that was very upsetting. 410 00:22:23,675 --> 00:22:26,178 You keep committing those deadly sins. 411 00:22:26,678 --> 00:22:28,555 Don't you feel bad for your pastor? 412 00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:30,974 Is it really that hard to believe? 413 00:22:31,808 --> 00:22:33,352 If you commit a sin, 414 00:22:34,227 --> 00:22:36,438 you'll die just like it says in the Bible, 415 00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:39,107 and there'll be no salvation, I promise you. 416 00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:41,735 This topic is kind of... 417 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,363 I feel bad talking about it. 418 00:22:44,946 --> 00:22:46,740 This might really hurt someone. 419 00:22:46,823 --> 00:22:49,368 Their family is still having a really hard time. 420 00:22:51,244 --> 00:22:52,788 He was a little bit... 421 00:22:52,871 --> 00:22:55,207 LEE CHAN-HEE FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 422 00:22:56,291 --> 00:22:57,626 ...free-spirited. 423 00:22:58,210 --> 00:22:59,836 He dated a lot of people. 424 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:03,757 He was a huge extrovert, and a very friendly kind of person. 425 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:05,842 [singing in Korean] 426 00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:10,514 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIM 427 00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:20,357 [man] He ran into several problems with various women. 428 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,650 Jae-rock found out about it. 429 00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:25,028 That ended up being, well... 430 00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:27,948 a great disadvantage for him, honestly. 431 00:23:28,782 --> 00:23:31,743 He told him once, "You can't be saved." 432 00:23:32,619 --> 00:23:34,454 So he... cut them off. 433 00:23:36,957 --> 00:23:38,917 He literally cut off his genitals. 434 00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:42,212 You could see a physical difference. 435 00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:44,172 He became feminine. 436 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:46,466 He was a bodyguard and he loved to exercise. 437 00:23:47,717 --> 00:23:48,885 He's skinny now. 438 00:23:49,594 --> 00:23:51,847 He has no muscles, and no facial hair. 439 00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:56,351 Such things shouldn't have happened to anyone. 440 00:23:56,935 --> 00:23:58,979 They were just extremely illogical. 441 00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:02,357 And they didn't just happen to one or two people. 442 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,696 [younger man] He had such blind faith, he thought it was right. 443 00:24:07,779 --> 00:24:10,115 "Where can I have it done? I have to do it!" 444 00:24:11,324 --> 00:24:12,868 I considered it. 445 00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:17,998 And when I looked into it, he even told me 446 00:24:18,999 --> 00:24:21,084 where it was done and the cost. 447 00:24:21,918 --> 00:24:24,588 He said it took five days to recover from the surgery. 448 00:24:25,088 --> 00:24:26,298 But it was illegal. 449 00:24:26,798 --> 00:24:28,800 [traditional music] 450 00:24:31,761 --> 00:24:34,097 [Chan-hee] Jae-rock was very sensitive 451 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:38,602 about things like dating somebody from the Performing Arts Committee. 452 00:24:42,189 --> 00:24:45,150 [woman] Like I said, there were pretty girls from the church. 453 00:24:45,233 --> 00:24:48,653 I think he thought that those girls belonged to him. 454 00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:51,281 But if they dated or slept with another man, 455 00:24:51,364 --> 00:24:54,075 he considered them tainted and filthy. 456 00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:56,328 He had to have them for himself. 457 00:24:56,411 --> 00:24:59,122 And so no other man could be with them. 458 00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:00,916 "They're all objects, and they're mine." 459 00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:13,386 Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Church 460 00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:15,889 was accused of sexually assaulting nine female followers... 461 00:25:15,972 --> 00:25:17,408 [man] Police believe the assaults... 462 00:25:17,432 --> 00:25:19,184 SEXUAL ASSAULTS AGAINST FOLLOWERS 463 00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:20,912 ...happened frequently, perhaps over years. 464 00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:22,136 LEE ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS 465 00:25:23,146 --> 00:25:24,523 APRIL 26, 2018 FIRST POLICE SUMMONS 466 00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:27,609 [woman] You denied all the charges. So there was no sexual intercourse? 467 00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:30,070 [man] This is dangerous. Please, he's walking here... 468 00:25:30,153 --> 00:25:32,033 - [woman] You deny any sex? - [man] He's hurt... 469 00:25:32,072 --> 00:25:34,032 Go. Go. Could you just go? 470 00:25:34,115 --> 00:25:37,244 [woman] Are you denying any intercourse? Or just the sexual assault? 471 00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:39,120 [Jae-rock] I deny everything. 472 00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:41,289 [woman] Why did you call female members at night? 473 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:42,374 [man] Just go. 474 00:25:42,457 --> 00:25:45,019 They say they hated it when you asked them for sexual intercourse. 475 00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:46,687 - [man] Sir... - [Jae-rock] I never did that. 476 00:25:46,711 --> 00:25:48,351 [woman] You never did anything like that? 477 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,220 - [man] Excuse us, Choi. - [woman] Don't you... 478 00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:52,217 Don't you want to apologize to your victims? 479 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,886 [man] Okay. Watch your leg, sir. 480 00:25:58,848 --> 00:26:00,016 Be careful, sir. 481 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,188 I mean... it was unbelievable. 482 00:26:05,272 --> 00:26:06,523 Completely unbelievable. 483 00:26:06,606 --> 00:26:09,568 I thought, "How can something this absurd happen?" 484 00:26:09,651 --> 00:26:13,989 Honestly... who could have imagined he was a sex offender? 485 00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:16,116 I thought they were rumors. 486 00:26:17,033 --> 00:26:18,952 Manmin Church and its members 487 00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:22,289 do not acknowledge the claims of Pastor Lee's sexual assaults. 488 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:26,418 We believe that such claims will be revealed to be false. 489 00:26:27,168 --> 00:26:30,880 First, stop all false claims! 490 00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:32,692 - [woman] Stop them! Stop them! - [all shout] 491 00:26:32,716 --> 00:26:34,276 BE STRONG, PASTOR! STOP THE FALSE CLAIMS 492 00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:38,471 The church will prove Pastor Lee's innocence. 493 00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:40,115 [woman] We'll prove it! We'll prove it! 494 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:41,474 WE LOVE YOU, PASTOR LEE! 495 00:26:41,558 --> 00:26:43,935 When we started gathering material for the piece... 496 00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:45,979 LEE MOON-HYEON, REPORTER SOCIETY DEPARTMENT OF MBC 497 00:26:46,062 --> 00:26:49,232 ...we thought he was the leader of a cult or something like that. 498 00:26:49,316 --> 00:26:51,359 But what we never imagined was that 499 00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:54,696 we were actually dealing with a dangerous criminal. 500 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:58,366 Another sexual assault victim filed a lawsuit 501 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:01,161 against Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Central Church, 502 00:27:01,244 --> 00:27:04,623 who's being investigated for sexually assaulting his followers. 503 00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:05,874 Here's the story. 504 00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:10,962 [Moon-hyeon] She says she was sexually assaulted by Pastor Lee of Manmin Church... 505 00:27:12,255 --> 00:27:16,301 The victim was like a leader among younger members. 506 00:27:16,384 --> 00:27:19,179 She brought in some evidence... 507 00:27:19,262 --> 00:27:20,764 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 508 00:27:20,847 --> 00:27:23,475 along with some pictures she took with Jae-rock. 509 00:27:24,392 --> 00:27:27,062 All these sources helped a lot during the investigation. 510 00:27:31,107 --> 00:27:34,653 There, I learned things like virtue, honesty, and love. 511 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,490 I loved learning that. It was something good. 512 00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:43,370 [Moon-hyeon] She was very specific about the last time 513 00:27:43,453 --> 00:27:46,706 she had been sexually assaulted by him, and where it took place. 514 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:51,586 It was information that wouldn't be shared with just anyone in the church, 515 00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:54,464 so that's how I knew I could trust her story. 516 00:27:58,218 --> 00:28:04,224 She said she first received a personal call from Jae-rock in 2011. 517 00:28:05,725 --> 00:28:07,477 [ringing] 518 00:28:11,856 --> 00:28:12,982 [Jae-rock] How are you? 519 00:28:15,944 --> 00:28:19,114 [Moon-hyeon] She said she was ecstatic. She was born religious. 520 00:28:20,907 --> 00:28:24,285 Then, all of a sudden, the man she was convinced was God, 521 00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:27,330 this noble and holy man, was calling her. 522 00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:29,499 TESTIMONY OF A FEMALE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 523 00:28:29,582 --> 00:28:33,586 [woman] I thought, "Maybe he wants to discuss my Measure of Faith in private." 524 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:36,965 "Or maybe he'll assign me a duty and a title." 525 00:28:38,007 --> 00:28:40,009 [romantic music] 526 00:28:47,267 --> 00:28:50,061 He said, "Hey, can you come to the apartment?" 527 00:28:50,854 --> 00:28:54,649 "No one knows about this place, so please don't tell anybody." 528 00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:02,615 So I left my house and took a cab there. 529 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:07,662 He was pretty careful. He said, "Don't use a card. Use cash." 530 00:29:18,715 --> 00:29:22,218 They wanted to prove their conviction, and dipped into their savings, 531 00:29:22,302 --> 00:29:25,388 withdrew the money in cash, and put it in an envelope. 532 00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:29,809 It was simple. Then they changed into their clean, white clothes. 533 00:29:32,312 --> 00:29:35,064 [witness 1] I felt so nervous when I pressed the doorbell. 534 00:29:35,148 --> 00:29:36,649 [bell rings] 535 00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:38,318 I was praying on my way there. 536 00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:43,531 Then even the way he poked his head out was so shocking to me. 537 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:50,121 As I went in, I noticed there was a large mattress right in the living room. 538 00:29:51,372 --> 00:29:53,374 [romantic music continues] 539 00:30:25,448 --> 00:30:28,034 All of the victims' stories have great similarities. 540 00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,453 They were all invited to his house. 541 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:33,622 [bell rings] 542 00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:39,629 And he told them, "I am God." 543 00:30:39,712 --> 00:30:41,965 "So, there's nothing wrong with what happens here." 544 00:30:42,048 --> 00:30:46,845 He said, "This is the Garden of Eden. Therefore, you must be naked." 545 00:30:46,928 --> 00:30:49,347 Those are the kind of things he told the victims. 546 00:30:49,931 --> 00:30:51,724 Then, the saddest thing, 547 00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:55,645 the victims didn't really know what was happening to them. 548 00:30:56,563 --> 00:30:58,083 TESTIMONY OF A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 549 00:30:58,147 --> 00:30:59,667 [witness 2] I couldn't think straight. 550 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:01,900 "What's going on?" 551 00:31:02,735 --> 00:31:05,154 "Is it okay for him to do this to me?" 552 00:31:05,238 --> 00:31:07,740 "What is this? What's going on?" 553 00:31:11,494 --> 00:31:15,540 "I see, this must be his Grace protecting me from the other men out there." 554 00:31:18,501 --> 00:31:21,254 I prayed for about a month, and I guess at that point, 555 00:31:21,337 --> 00:31:24,799 I just accepted the thought that it must have been God's grace. 556 00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:44,277 [thunder crashing] 557 00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:50,074 [Seong-kwang] He wasn't God. He was the Devil. 558 00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:54,495 He used to say, "You are in the presence of God." 559 00:31:55,246 --> 00:31:59,417 And also, "Just by touching my body, you'll be healed." 560 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:00,710 "You'll go to Heaven." 561 00:32:00,793 --> 00:32:02,712 He was the Devil in sheep's clothing. 562 00:32:09,385 --> 00:32:10,386 TESTIMONY OF A VICTIM 563 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,055 [witness 4] He unclasped my bra. 564 00:32:12,138 --> 00:32:15,350 I was surprised because he was so good at it. 565 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,019 [Jeong-hye] "Who owns your pussy, Jeong-hye?" 566 00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:21,814 He looked... very closely at that part. 567 00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:24,692 He just stared at it. 568 00:32:28,154 --> 00:32:31,366 He brought my face closer to his genital area. 569 00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:34,494 Then he said, "That's not right." 570 00:32:34,994 --> 00:32:36,412 "Your teeth are hurting me." 571 00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:43,670 While we were having sex, he kept asking me if it felt good. 572 00:32:43,753 --> 00:32:45,463 And he told me to moan. 573 00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:47,090 "Good? Good?" 574 00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:50,438 [witness 5] All of us had to pay attention 575 00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:53,763 and keep watching while he had sex with my friends. 576 00:33:02,563 --> 00:33:06,317 [witness 4] He said we were too clumsy and made us watch porn and practice. 577 00:33:06,401 --> 00:33:11,197 So when his assistant played porn for us, I would practice my moaning. 578 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,410 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIMS 579 00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:19,914 [witness 6] Those girls were really pretty. 580 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:23,459 It was clear that he preferred girls who were born religious like me, 581 00:33:23,543 --> 00:33:25,586 because they were more naive, 582 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:27,630 and they'd never been touched by a man. 583 00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:31,718 After he sexually assaulted us, 584 00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:35,179 he gave each one of us around three million won. 585 00:33:36,639 --> 00:33:40,685 People suddenly started getting nice cars and houses 586 00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:44,897 That was fairly common. "Where did they get the money to buy those things?" 587 00:33:46,482 --> 00:33:49,902 [witness 4] He gave me an envelope with a million won. It was all in cash. 588 00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:51,821 TESTIMONY OF A FEMALE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 589 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,742 [Jeong-hye] I used to get two to three million won. 590 00:33:57,368 --> 00:34:01,956 [witness 3] He wrote "4,500" in green ink on a white envelope he gave me. 591 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:06,210 He gave me six million won. 592 00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:10,506 It all came from the offerings. That's where he got the money from. 593 00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:12,633 I think he gave me two million won. 594 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:14,677 Five million at most. 595 00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:16,721 I also paid offerings. 596 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:21,476 There were many times when I would just return all that money. 597 00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,854 I didn't know what to do with the money. 598 00:34:24,937 --> 00:34:28,191 I didn't want to spend any of it. For me, it didn't make sense to use it. 599 00:34:28,274 --> 00:34:29,942 So I gave it back to the church. 600 00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:34,322 After that, their Measure of Faith would suddenly increase considerably. 601 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:41,204 A lot of the Performing Arts Committee had really high rankings in the church. 602 00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:43,831 I think there were 20 to 30 people. 603 00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:45,500 So everything was connected. 604 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,794 You had to elevate your spirit, 605 00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:50,755 but for you to achieve that, you had to sleep with him. 606 00:34:52,298 --> 00:34:55,676 Not only that, but he continued to assault his previous victims. 607 00:34:56,344 --> 00:35:00,098 We will not give in to the unfaithful demands, dear Pastor Lee. 608 00:35:00,181 --> 00:35:01,766 [all] Amen! 609 00:35:01,849 --> 00:35:03,726 [woman] We're here for you! 610 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:05,603 [group] You can do it! 611 00:35:06,437 --> 00:35:10,149 We love you with all our hearts! 612 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:16,989 The image of the pastor that we grew up with never really changed. 613 00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:21,494 Through all these years, he maintained a kind and loving image. 614 00:35:21,577 --> 00:35:23,663 We've only seen one side of him, 615 00:35:23,746 --> 00:35:26,499 standing by the members of the church through their ups and downs. 616 00:35:26,582 --> 00:35:28,793 We just thought those women were promiscuous. 617 00:35:28,876 --> 00:35:31,379 That they liked to fool around with men. 618 00:35:31,462 --> 00:35:34,298 FOR I AM A GOOD SHEPHERD, I WILL SACRIFICE MYSELF FOR MY SHEEP 619 00:35:34,382 --> 00:35:37,051 [man] "They were immoral. Sinners." 620 00:35:37,927 --> 00:35:39,220 People spread rumors. 621 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,848 They'd say things at private gatherings. 622 00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:43,391 They'd say they were dirty. 623 00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:51,732 Some of the adults did know what was happening to us. 624 00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:55,153 But they still wouldn't leave the church. 625 00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:58,948 That was because he said he was holy. 626 00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:04,954 They said, "A simple human can't judge this man's holy actions." 627 00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:08,958 If one single person had spoken out, 628 00:36:09,458 --> 00:36:12,503 none of this would have lasted for decades. 629 00:36:13,629 --> 00:36:16,757 I'm sure it wouldn't have lasted so many years. 630 00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:21,137 SECOND POLICE SUMMONS 631 00:36:21,220 --> 00:36:23,431 - [Moon-hyeon] Do you admit it? - Where are we going? 632 00:36:23,514 --> 00:36:25,951 - [Moon-hyeon] Why did you do it? - [Choi] Are you admitting it? 633 00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:27,685 [Moon-hyeon] You're not gonna talk? 634 00:36:27,768 --> 00:36:30,728 - Why did you call your members? - [Choi] You think you're the Holy Spirit? 635 00:36:30,771 --> 00:36:33,316 [Moon-hyeon] We kept asking questions right up to the elevator. 636 00:36:34,108 --> 00:36:37,695 But Jae-rock didn't say anything to defend himself or anything like that. 637 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:43,409 And the people around him were trying to shove away the reporters that were there. 638 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:46,287 I remember him seeming shameless. 639 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:48,206 - Move away, please. - [Choi] Excuse me! 640 00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:50,499 [Moon-hyeon] Why were they in your room at night? 641 00:36:50,583 --> 00:36:51,876 Tell us about April 12! 642 00:36:53,669 --> 00:36:57,256 ACCUSED OF SEXUALLY ASSAULTING CHURCH MEMBERS 643 00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:00,593 PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK'S SECOND POLICE SUMMONS 644 00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:05,306 After that, he continued to deny the charges 645 00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:07,350 during the prosecutor's investigation. 646 00:37:07,433 --> 00:37:10,269 During the trial, he would just deny everything. 647 00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:12,647 He claimed he had never assaulted them. 648 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:14,774 He hired very expensive lawyers 649 00:37:14,857 --> 00:37:18,236 and pleaded not guilty until the very end. 650 00:37:19,987 --> 00:37:23,282 There was a very specific incident that brought down Manmin. 651 00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:26,035 An audio of a female member began to circulate. 652 00:37:26,535 --> 00:37:29,872 She was one of the most prominent and active members of the church. 653 00:37:29,956 --> 00:37:34,335 It's an audio of this person talking to one of her friends. 654 00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:36,754 In that recording, she's saying 655 00:37:36,837 --> 00:37:39,715 that there was nothing wrong with having sex with Jae-rock. 656 00:37:41,717 --> 00:37:43,427 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 657 00:37:43,511 --> 00:37:46,514 [woman 1] Do you really think it's okay he demands that from unwilling women 658 00:37:46,597 --> 00:37:48,641 just because he's the Holy Spirit? 659 00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:51,102 - You never thought that it was wrong? - [woman 2] No. 660 00:37:51,185 --> 00:37:53,025 [woman 1] So you're always completely obedient? 661 00:37:53,062 --> 00:37:54,522 [woman 2] Yes. 662 00:37:54,605 --> 00:37:57,024 - It's not that weird. - [woman 1] Why isn't it weird? 663 00:37:57,525 --> 00:38:00,695 Do you have to do everything that he says, then? Even having sex? 664 00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:05,032 [woman 2] Pastor Lee is God. It's okay. 665 00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:07,535 If he says it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 666 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:09,829 [choral music] 667 00:38:09,912 --> 00:38:12,790 When I listened to that, I realized that it was all true. 668 00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:15,918 I found my 20 years of faith shattered in just two hours. 669 00:38:17,503 --> 00:38:21,382 [producer] So, how did it feel to have 20 years of faith shattered? 670 00:38:21,465 --> 00:38:23,467 [choral music swells] 671 00:38:32,852 --> 00:38:36,439 Uh, I guess it felt like... my mind... 672 00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:40,818 going completely blank in a second. 673 00:38:41,527 --> 00:38:45,906 It felt like my head was getting slammed with a huge hammer. 674 00:38:46,615 --> 00:38:50,328 I was so shocked that I couldn't do anything all day. Yeah. 675 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:54,165 It was unimaginable. 676 00:38:54,248 --> 00:38:57,543 You never think that God could do something like that. 677 00:38:57,626 --> 00:38:58,794 "Huh?" 678 00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:00,838 I was stunned. 679 00:39:01,964 --> 00:39:04,300 I felt like I had suddenly been hit by a bomb. 680 00:39:06,594 --> 00:39:09,930 I mean, Jae-rock was over 50 years older than them. 681 00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:11,432 And he knew them all. 682 00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:13,893 These were kids who went to his church 683 00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:16,520 He prayed with them. 684 00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:20,274 These kids first came to the church carried by their mothers, 685 00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:23,069 and he did unspeakable things to them. 686 00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:27,073 At first, I almost went after him. 687 00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:31,118 It was all completely outrageous. 688 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:36,332 [witness 2] To think he'd practically raised those girls since they were kids, 689 00:39:36,415 --> 00:39:40,169 and then did that to them when they were just teenagers until their 20s... 690 00:39:40,252 --> 00:39:43,255 He was in his 70s. I don't even know what to call him. 691 00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:45,466 Pervert? Degenerate? 692 00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:49,512 I wonder what I would have done in their place. 693 00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:51,889 If Pastor Lee had called me to his room, 694 00:39:51,972 --> 00:39:53,432 and asked me to do that. 695 00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:56,644 To take off my clothes, saying we were like Adam and Eve. 696 00:39:56,727 --> 00:39:59,647 It may sound shocking, but I think I would have obeyed him. 697 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,108 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 698 00:40:02,191 --> 00:40:04,819 [Jae-rock] I love you so much, spiritually. 699 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:09,365 The body is a very important thing, but I love you with my spirit. 700 00:40:09,448 --> 00:40:11,367 [woman, tearfully] I know that. 701 00:40:11,450 --> 00:40:15,621 [Jae-rock] If you don't like physical love, I won't even consider it. 702 00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:16,831 [woman sighs] 703 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:19,250 [Jae-rock] I won't consider it if you don't like it. 704 00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,169 I don't love you just because of that. 705 00:40:23,337 --> 00:40:25,089 [woman] Okay. [sniffles] 706 00:40:25,172 --> 00:40:26,340 [Jae-rock] All right. 707 00:40:27,716 --> 00:40:29,009 I'll see you tomorrow. 708 00:40:29,718 --> 00:40:32,304 - [woman, sobbing] Okay, thank you. - [Jae-rock] Sure. 709 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:35,349 - I love you. - [woman] Okay. Bye. 710 00:40:36,851 --> 00:40:38,853 - [sniffling] - [hangs up] 711 00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:47,570 The day their God was destroyed was May 3rd, 2018. 712 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,488 That was the day. 713 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,162 [camera shutters clicking] 714 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:03,669 [woman] We're here for you! Stay strong. 715 00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:07,506 MAY 3, 2018 LEE JAE-ROCK IS ARRESTED 716 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:09,091 Do you admit it? 717 00:41:09,175 --> 00:41:10,759 [dramatic music] 718 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,261 Do you deny the charges? 719 00:41:12,344 --> 00:41:15,222 At the prayer meeting, you said you don't fear the police. 720 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:16,557 What do you mean by that? 721 00:41:17,224 --> 00:41:20,394 Pastor Lee of Manmin Central Church has been arrested, 722 00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:23,481 after being charged with multiple sexual assaults. 723 00:41:24,523 --> 00:41:26,192 [echoing footsteps] 724 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:28,944 [dramatic music intensifies] 725 00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:48,714 [Myeong-jun] The day of his arrest, it suddenly started hailing. 726 00:41:48,797 --> 00:41:50,382 Almost as if God were angry. 727 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,679 [Kwang-oh] Manmin Church calls that day the "Hail Incident." 728 00:41:56,847 --> 00:42:00,142 All the members were furious, saying he was being put through hardship. 729 00:42:00,226 --> 00:42:01,977 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 730 00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:03,646 [crowd clamoring] 731 00:42:05,064 --> 00:42:07,233 [man] Disclose the truth! The truth! 732 00:42:07,316 --> 00:42:08,609 [all] We want the truth! 733 00:42:08,692 --> 00:42:10,653 WHY IS OUR PASTOR LOCKED UP FOR 15 YEARS? 734 00:42:10,736 --> 00:42:12,738 [chanting] We want truth! We want truth! 735 00:42:12,821 --> 00:42:14,823 PASTOR LEE WAS FRAMED 736 00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:16,742 [group singing in Korean] 737 00:42:18,744 --> 00:42:22,331 BRING OUT THE LIE DETECTOR 738 00:42:22,414 --> 00:42:24,416 TRANSPORT 739 00:42:25,751 --> 00:42:26,835 [man] There he is. 740 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:29,672 There he is, right there. You got him? 741 00:42:31,674 --> 00:42:36,971 For many people, it was their first time seeing him looking like a coward. 742 00:42:38,138 --> 00:42:41,267 When he got out of the car, he seemed wary to me. 743 00:42:42,935 --> 00:42:45,771 They say he didn't have white hair because he was God. 744 00:42:45,854 --> 00:42:48,524 He was supposed to keep his black hair even as he got older. 745 00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:54,822 But he looked like a random old man. 746 00:42:55,489 --> 00:42:57,491 [dramatic music continues] 747 00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:07,459 DEFENDANT LEE JAE-ROCK SENTENCED TO 16 YEARS IN JAIL 748 00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:12,548 [woman] Dear Lord, keep us in your heart... 749 00:43:12,631 --> 00:43:14,633 JANUARY 18, 2018 FILMED BY CREW OF PD NOTE 750 00:43:14,717 --> 00:43:16,927 ...as we wish Pastor Lee a very happy new year. 751 00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:18,846 Let's say "Happy New Year," and bow. 752 00:43:19,888 --> 00:43:22,808 [all] Happy New Year, dear Pastor Lee! 753 00:43:25,144 --> 00:43:29,231 SOME MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH MEMBERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK 754 00:43:29,315 --> 00:43:31,609 - [group shouting] - [man] Our dear Pastor Lee! 755 00:43:33,027 --> 00:43:36,447 - We miss you a lot! - [woman] Come back to us soon! 756 00:43:39,533 --> 00:43:42,202 LEE KWANG-OH, CORRECTION ADVISOR AT SEOUL NAMBU DETENTION CENTER 757 00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:45,164 I am currently Director of Corrections at Seoul Nambu Detention Center. 758 00:43:45,748 --> 00:43:48,792 I have authority in the detention center. 759 00:43:53,255 --> 00:43:57,426 I visited the center in Daegu in March 2021. 760 00:44:01,263 --> 00:44:04,600 I wondered, what was the true nature of this deceptive man? 761 00:44:04,683 --> 00:44:06,101 How was his life in prison? 762 00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:10,230 So, when I saw him, I said, "Hey, Jae-rock!" 763 00:44:12,191 --> 00:44:13,484 He glanced at me. 764 00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:18,280 Just imagine how my heart was pounding when I said his name. 765 00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:20,366 [rapid heartbeat] 766 00:44:21,742 --> 00:44:24,536 "You need to live a better life! Aren't you afraid of God?" 767 00:44:25,454 --> 00:44:27,373 That's what I wanted to say, but then... 768 00:44:30,167 --> 00:44:31,502 he didn't recognize me. 769 00:44:34,546 --> 00:44:36,799 Even in prison, he was the leader of his cell. 770 00:44:36,882 --> 00:44:39,885 He always has five million won kept in custody. 771 00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:43,472 He's eating well and living well. 772 00:44:44,306 --> 00:44:46,058 [unsettling music] 773 00:44:47,184 --> 00:44:48,912 ALL INTERVIEWS IN THIS DOCUMENTARY USE REAL TESTIMONIES 774 00:44:48,936 --> 00:44:51,697 TO PROTECT THE SUBJECTS' IDENTITY, SOME INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN REENACTED 64111

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