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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,143 --> 00:00:15,785 Glenn: ThereĀ“s no better place for a serial killer to hide 2 00:00:15,786 --> 00:00:17,517 than a hospital. 3 00:00:17,518 --> 00:00:21,151 Their charge is the Hippocratic Oath to do no harm. 4 00:00:22,092 --> 00:00:24,555 He was really conducting his own sick experiments. 5 00:00:26,196 --> 00:00:28,528 Burckley: And it wasnĀ“t just once or twice. 6 00:00:28,529 --> 00:00:31,562 It was four times, and it might be more times. 7 00:00:35,405 --> 00:00:37,366 This was totally out of character 8 00:00:37,367 --> 00:00:39,038 to the person we know. 9 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:43,312 Many people were just outraged at the accusation. 10 00:00:43,313 --> 00:00:45,615 There was never any motive. 11 00:00:45,616 --> 00:00:47,347 ItĀ“s insane. 12 00:00:49,449 --> 00:00:51,721 Davis: So to be honest with you, IĀ“m glad you came. 13 00:00:51,722 --> 00:00:54,483 IĀ“ve been waiting for an opportunity like this. 14 00:00:54,484 --> 00:00:57,286 Alright, guys, so obviously, 15 00:00:57,287 --> 00:01:00,129 weĀ“ve been working this case for quite... 16 00:01:00,130 --> 00:01:01,360 IĀ“m Bryanna Fox. 17 00:01:01,361 --> 00:01:03,162 IĀ“m a psychological criminologist 18 00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:05,434 and a former FBI special agent. 19 00:01:05,435 --> 00:01:07,396 I study violent offenders to evaluate 20 00:01:07,397 --> 00:01:10,500 their personality traits and patterns of behavior. 21 00:01:10,501 --> 00:01:12,441 And I developed psychological profiles 22 00:01:12,442 --> 00:01:16,375 to help law enforcement catch dangerous criminals. 23 00:01:16,376 --> 00:01:18,377 As a former FBI special agent, 24 00:01:18,378 --> 00:01:20,610 I learn techniques to interrogate and analyze 25 00:01:20,611 --> 00:01:23,813 some of the nationĀ“s most violent serial offenders. 26 00:01:23,814 --> 00:01:27,216 Now IĀ“m a professor at the University of South Florida, 27 00:01:27,217 --> 00:01:31,090 where IĀ“m training the next generation of criminologists. 28 00:01:31,091 --> 00:01:33,763 Together with a team of my top graduate students, 29 00:01:33,764 --> 00:01:37,527 we are reinvestigating violent crimes in order to learn 30 00:01:37,528 --> 00:01:40,229 how to probe the mind of a convicted murderer... 31 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:41,571 Davis: IĀ“m not a serial monster, 32 00:01:41,572 --> 00:01:43,172 if thatĀ“s what youĀ“re wondering. 33 00:01:43,173 --> 00:01:46,275 Fox: to understand, why did this killer kill? 34 00:01:46,276 --> 00:01:48,778 Do you believe that youĀ“re going to heaven? I do. 35 00:01:48,779 --> 00:01:56,215 ♫♫ 36 00:01:56,216 --> 00:02:03,452 ♫♫ 37 00:02:03,453 --> 00:02:10,700 ♫♫ 38 00:02:10,701 --> 00:02:12,431 [ Cell door slams ] 39 00:02:12,432 --> 00:02:20,309 ♫♫ 40 00:02:20,310 --> 00:02:25,675 Farmacka: My dad was a very easygoing man. 41 00:02:25,676 --> 00:02:29,278 My mom and dad were married for 50 years. 42 00:02:29,279 --> 00:02:33,352 They had just had their 50th anniversary. 43 00:02:33,353 --> 00:02:35,154 They had only dated for, like, three months. 44 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:37,757 So thatĀ“s pretty crazy that they would, you know, 45 00:02:37,758 --> 00:02:40,289 be together for 50 years. 46 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:41,691 He liked to be the hero. 47 00:02:41,692 --> 00:02:44,463 You know, if me and my brother needed something, 48 00:02:44,464 --> 00:02:48,698 he took pride in being able to provide for his family. 49 00:02:48,699 --> 00:02:52,742 Super easy to talk to and very, very animated 50 00:02:52,743 --> 00:02:55,505 when he told stories. 51 00:02:55,506 --> 00:02:57,808 Everybody loved my dad. 52 00:02:59,449 --> 00:03:01,180 [ Siren wailing ] 53 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:03,212 You know, he went in to the hospital, 54 00:03:03,213 --> 00:03:06,656 and they did the bypass that morning. 55 00:03:06,657 --> 00:03:09,559 You know, they expected him to make a full recovery. 56 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,764 ♫♫ 57 00:03:14,765 --> 00:03:18,698 I first found out something was wrong with my dad... 58 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:21,370 My mom and my brother called. 59 00:03:21,371 --> 00:03:23,703 I kept asking, "Is he okay? Is he okay?" 60 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:24,934 They wouldnĀ“t tell me. 61 00:03:24,935 --> 00:03:26,906 They just said, "You need to come. 62 00:03:26,907 --> 00:03:29,939 Come up here." 63 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:35,314 When I got to the hospital, they told us that he was brain dead. 64 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:37,748 You know, my dad was just laying there and... 65 00:03:38,749 --> 00:03:41,250 that we... 66 00:03:41,251 --> 00:03:43,293 We just couldnĀ“t talk to him anymore. 67 00:03:47,497 --> 00:03:51,260 And about six months later, IĀ“m on my way to work 68 00:03:51,261 --> 00:03:54,233 and I hear a, you know... Over the radio, 69 00:03:54,234 --> 00:03:57,366 they were saying the news about this Tyler nurse 70 00:03:57,367 --> 00:03:59,669 that had just been arrested, 71 00:03:59,670 --> 00:04:02,812 that had been killing his patients. 72 00:04:02,813 --> 00:04:06,015 When I heard that, I thought, "That was my dad. 73 00:04:06,016 --> 00:04:08,277 That had to be my dad." 74 00:04:08,278 --> 00:04:12,421 The only question, you know, I kept asking myself 75 00:04:12,422 --> 00:04:14,984 is, "Why did he choose my dad?" 76 00:04:14,985 --> 00:04:22,461 ♫♫ 77 00:04:22,462 --> 00:04:29,769 ♫♫ 78 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:33,703 Fox: In 2017 at the Heart Hospital in Tyler, Texas, 79 00:04:33,704 --> 00:04:35,945 patients began mysteriously dying. 80 00:04:35,946 --> 00:04:38,648 ThereĀ“s risks involved with every medical procedure. 81 00:04:38,649 --> 00:04:44,053 And so when things go poorly, sometimes thatĀ“s not unexpected. 82 00:04:44,054 --> 00:04:46,716 These were just unexplained events. 83 00:04:46,717 --> 00:04:48,988 Roberts: Medicine is pretty highly advanced these days. 84 00:04:48,989 --> 00:04:51,420 When the patients come in, they score them 85 00:04:51,421 --> 00:04:54,063 based on their probability of how well they should do. 86 00:04:54,064 --> 00:04:56,065 And people that were scoring really high 87 00:04:56,066 --> 00:04:59,699 and should have done well were not. 88 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:02,832 Dr. Turner, he knew something was not right, 89 00:05:02,833 --> 00:05:05,074 and he couldnĀ“t quite put his finger on it. 90 00:05:05,075 --> 00:05:07,637 When another patient, Mr. Greenaway, 91 00:05:07,638 --> 00:05:09,078 had a negative outcome, 92 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:13,713 he ordered a CT or a CAT scan of the head. 93 00:05:13,714 --> 00:05:15,785 It was a genius move, in my opinion. 94 00:05:15,786 --> 00:05:18,788 And it captured air in the brain, 95 00:05:18,789 --> 00:05:23,392 which should not occur under these circumstances. 96 00:05:23,393 --> 00:05:28,628 Most of the patients who died died from massive strokes 97 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:30,429 caused by air embolisms. 98 00:05:30,430 --> 00:05:34,604 ♫♫ 99 00:05:34,605 --> 00:05:36,566 Fox: Based on the scans, experts conclude 100 00:05:36,567 --> 00:05:39,068 that someone has been deliberately injecting air 101 00:05:39,069 --> 00:05:43,342 into the patientĀ“s arterial lines. 102 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,645 Your brainĀ“s gonna die within about six minutes 103 00:05:45,646 --> 00:05:48,018 of it having an air block there. 104 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:51,881 Fox: Finally, the hospital realized 105 00:05:51,882 --> 00:05:53,653 patients were being murdered, 106 00:05:53,654 --> 00:05:56,626 but it wasnĀ“t until they put security cameras up 107 00:05:56,627 --> 00:05:59,690 that they realized who was responsible. 108 00:06:03,063 --> 00:06:05,695 Roberts: So when they put the video cameras up, 109 00:06:05,696 --> 00:06:11,101 a pattern started to emerge that Mr. Davis was on duty. 110 00:06:13,704 --> 00:06:17,707 On several of the victims, he was in the room at the time 111 00:06:17,708 --> 00:06:22,411 that they had their significant event while theyĀ“re crashing. 112 00:06:22,412 --> 00:06:25,384 And he really had no reason to go in those rooms. 113 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:27,156 They were not his patients. 114 00:06:27,157 --> 00:06:29,088 Law enforcement was consulted 115 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:30,389 and an investigation was started 116 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:31,791 by the Tyler Police Department 117 00:06:31,792 --> 00:06:33,672 and the Smith County District AttorneyĀ“s Office. 118 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:38,497 Fox: Ultimately, registered nurse Will Davis was linked 119 00:06:38,498 --> 00:06:40,129 to seven victims who died 120 00:06:40,130 --> 00:06:44,073 and five who were left with permanent neurological damage. 121 00:06:44,074 --> 00:06:48,437 In 2021, Davis was sentenced to death for his crimes. 122 00:06:48,438 --> 00:06:55,615 ♫♫ 123 00:06:55,616 --> 00:07:02,792 ♫♫ 124 00:07:02,793 --> 00:07:09,959 ♫♫ 125 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,032 What would make a nurse who took an oath to do no harm 126 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:15,565 become a serial killer? 127 00:07:15,566 --> 00:07:17,567 To try to understand, my students 128 00:07:17,568 --> 00:07:20,870 need to build a profile of his characteristics. 129 00:07:20,871 --> 00:07:22,642 But first, they need to understand 130 00:07:22,643 --> 00:07:25,044 the basic facts of the case. 131 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:27,216 So to start, IĀ“d like to talk 132 00:07:27,217 --> 00:07:29,879 about what do we know about Will Davis? 133 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,221 We know that he worked at a heart hospital 134 00:07:32,222 --> 00:07:35,985 and was convicted of these four murders. 135 00:07:35,986 --> 00:07:37,887 My name is Jordan Teuber. 136 00:07:37,888 --> 00:07:40,059 I work for the state attorneyĀ“s office in Hillsborough County. 137 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:42,191 My specialty is drilling down on the evidence 138 00:07:42,192 --> 00:07:44,794 so that we can really build a case for prosecution. 139 00:07:44,795 --> 00:07:49,138 We know that 12 in total were investigated by Tyler P.D., 140 00:07:49,139 --> 00:07:51,901 and we got convictions for four of them, 141 00:07:51,902 --> 00:07:53,873 but if 12 are being investigated, 142 00:07:53,874 --> 00:07:55,605 thereĀ“s certainly a possibility 143 00:07:55,606 --> 00:07:57,807 that there are others that were his victims that just... 144 00:07:57,808 --> 00:07:59,509 My name is Jacquie Burckley, 145 00:07:59,510 --> 00:08:01,250 and I was a cryptologic technician for networks 146 00:08:01,251 --> 00:08:03,613 for the United States Navy for eight years. 147 00:08:03,614 --> 00:08:07,486 So we know his method of murder was injecting the air 148 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:09,719 into the arterial line. So it says... 149 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,260 My name is Vanessa Centelles. 150 00:08:11,261 --> 00:08:13,162 My research lies with victimology, 151 00:08:13,163 --> 00:08:16,025 which basically means that IĀ“m more interested 152 00:08:16,026 --> 00:08:18,197 in the facts of the victim rather than the offender. 153 00:08:18,198 --> 00:08:20,630 And for some patients, he even injected it 154 00:08:20,631 --> 00:08:22,171 straight into their veins. 155 00:08:22,172 --> 00:08:24,834 My name is Xavier Burch, and my role in the team 156 00:08:24,835 --> 00:08:26,636 is to challenge every piece of evidence 157 00:08:26,637 --> 00:08:28,037 to make sure that we get to the truth. 158 00:08:28,038 --> 00:08:29,509 HeĀ“s very religious. 159 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:31,010 You know, I wonder how he can reconcile 160 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:34,684 these actions with his religiosity. 161 00:08:34,685 --> 00:08:36,145 My name is Nate Lawshe. 162 00:08:36,146 --> 00:08:37,817 IĀ“ve always been a statistics guy. 163 00:08:37,818 --> 00:08:41,791 I really love getting, like, a data set together. 164 00:08:41,792 --> 00:08:45,556 And what I bring to the table is IĀ“m the human computer. 165 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:50,630 ThereĀ“s not a lot known about Will Davis. 166 00:08:50,631 --> 00:08:53,062 He didnĀ“t even testify at his own trial. 167 00:08:53,063 --> 00:08:56,235 But incredibly, he agreed to do an interview with me. 168 00:08:56,236 --> 00:08:58,938 So what is it that we want to get out of this case? 169 00:08:58,939 --> 00:09:00,810 What are our main goals? 170 00:09:00,811 --> 00:09:02,211 Burckley: I think one of the most important things 171 00:09:02,212 --> 00:09:04,143 that we need to find out, if we can, is the motive. 172 00:09:04,144 --> 00:09:05,845 Why did he do this? Burch: And I also think 173 00:09:05,846 --> 00:09:08,177 that we should really try to see if thereĀ“s more victims 174 00:09:08,178 --> 00:09:11,621 that he can possibly admit to or talk about. 175 00:09:11,622 --> 00:09:13,553 Centelles: And I think itĀ“s really important 176 00:09:13,554 --> 00:09:15,755 to try to bring that closure to those families, too. 177 00:09:15,756 --> 00:09:21,931 ♫♫ 178 00:09:21,932 --> 00:09:25,094 One thing we know is that Will Davis, 179 00:09:25,095 --> 00:09:28,598 even after he was charged with these crimes, 180 00:09:28,599 --> 00:09:30,169 he was in jail for two and a half years 181 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:32,742 before he was ultimately convicted of them. 182 00:09:32,743 --> 00:09:36,746 And that entire time, he maintained his innocence. 183 00:09:36,747 --> 00:09:39,008 But after Davis was convicted, 184 00:09:39,009 --> 00:09:43,112 he finally took responsibility for his crimes. 185 00:09:43,113 --> 00:09:46,586 I think that really leads up to one important moment. 186 00:09:46,587 --> 00:09:49,859 Nate, would you mind queuing up the audio phone call? 187 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:51,591 Yeah, sure thing. 188 00:09:51,592 --> 00:09:52,863 [ Telephone rings ] 189 00:10:27,658 --> 00:10:30,960 He says a potential reason for it. 190 00:10:30,961 --> 00:10:34,133 So maybe heĀ“s got some mitigation in his mind. 191 00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:36,205 I mean, we know that, you know, 192 00:10:36,206 --> 00:10:38,307 theoretically, sometimes people 193 00:10:38,308 --> 00:10:40,870 that endure excessive financial stressors 194 00:10:40,871 --> 00:10:42,411 or, like, multiple stressors 195 00:10:42,412 --> 00:10:43,943 are more likely to engage in criminal behavior. 196 00:10:43,944 --> 00:10:45,715 Burch: But come on now, it doesnĀ“t make sense. 197 00:10:45,716 --> 00:10:47,777 Like sicker people, you may get overtime, 198 00:10:47,778 --> 00:10:50,650 but dead people, youĀ“re not gonna get anything. 199 00:10:50,651 --> 00:10:53,082 I do not think he told us the real reason 200 00:10:53,083 --> 00:10:56,355 about why he killed those people. Not at all. 201 00:10:56,356 --> 00:10:59,128 Fox: To begin the process of building a profile, 202 00:10:59,129 --> 00:11:01,230 we need to speak to people who knew Will Davis 203 00:11:01,231 --> 00:11:04,694 to help us understand his past and behavior. 204 00:11:04,695 --> 00:11:06,696 What do you guys think we should investigate next? 205 00:11:06,697 --> 00:11:09,939 Maybe his mom or his family members? 206 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:11,741 Teuber: I think itĀ“ll also be really interesting 207 00:11:11,742 --> 00:11:14,003 to hear from some of the other nurses. 208 00:11:14,004 --> 00:11:16,445 Burch: I think we should also talk to the wife as well 209 00:11:16,446 --> 00:11:19,008 to see if she has some insight on the stress. 210 00:11:19,009 --> 00:11:20,780 Absolutely. Maybe thereĀ“s something 211 00:11:20,781 --> 00:11:22,952 that could help us understand why he did this, 212 00:11:22,953 --> 00:11:24,815 the real reason. 213 00:11:28,458 --> 00:11:34,063 ♫♫ 214 00:11:34,064 --> 00:11:39,428 ♫♫ 215 00:11:39,429 --> 00:11:41,971 Fox: Vanessa and I travel to Henderson, Texas, 216 00:11:41,972 --> 00:11:43,703 to meet Will DavisĀ“ mother, 217 00:11:43,704 --> 00:11:47,237 who has kindly agreed to talk with us about her son. 218 00:11:49,239 --> 00:11:52,482 Anyone who knew Will Davis as a child calls him Billy. 219 00:11:54,184 --> 00:11:55,915 Reagan: Billy loved football. 220 00:11:55,916 --> 00:11:57,386 Centelles: Was he a natural 221 00:11:57,387 --> 00:11:59,488 or did he have to work a little harder? 222 00:11:59,489 --> 00:12:02,151 Billy would play on the front lines. 223 00:12:02,152 --> 00:12:04,023 He didnĀ“t care if they were tree trunks. 224 00:12:04,024 --> 00:12:07,356 He was bringing them down. ThatĀ“s just how he played. 225 00:12:07,357 --> 00:12:10,359 This is when he was in the parade. 226 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,001 He was Mr. West Rusk, 227 00:12:12,002 --> 00:12:14,764 and he was driving homecoming queen. 228 00:12:14,765 --> 00:12:17,507 She was on the back of the car. 229 00:12:17,508 --> 00:12:19,008 Fox: Holy cow. 230 00:12:19,009 --> 00:12:21,210 So what did his dad say when...? 231 00:12:21,211 --> 00:12:22,812 Oh, he was very proud of that picture. 232 00:12:22,813 --> 00:12:24,273 He was very proud of Mr. West Rusk and... 233 00:12:24,274 --> 00:12:25,875 Oh, yeah, yeah, most definitely proud. 234 00:12:25,876 --> 00:12:28,417 We were all proud of that 235 00:12:28,418 --> 00:12:30,880 because he, um, he excelled very well. 236 00:12:30,881 --> 00:12:33,452 He did very well. The teachers are who elected 237 00:12:33,453 --> 00:12:35,424 Mr. West Rusk and Miss West Rusk. 238 00:12:35,425 --> 00:12:37,156 Really? They always elected them. 239 00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:39,889 Yes. They loved him. Yes, they did. 240 00:12:39,890 --> 00:12:42,862 Fox: Typically when weĀ“re looking at serial-killer cases, 241 00:12:42,863 --> 00:12:45,064 thereĀ“s a lot of dysfunction in the home. 242 00:12:45,065 --> 00:12:46,766 TheyĀ“re not doing well in school. 243 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:48,838 ThereĀ“s a lot of trauma or abuse. 244 00:12:48,839 --> 00:12:52,271 It was unusual that thatĀ“s not what we heard from Brenda. 245 00:12:52,272 --> 00:12:54,074 [ Birds chirping ] 246 00:12:58,248 --> 00:13:00,349 As someone who knew Will Davis well, 247 00:13:00,350 --> 00:13:03,282 weĀ“re eager to hear from his ex-wife. 248 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:06,385 She prefers to protect her identity. 249 00:13:06,386 --> 00:13:07,817 Ex-wife: Whenever I first met William, 250 00:13:07,818 --> 00:13:10,489 he was already a registered nurse. 251 00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:13,462 He wanted to excel in his career. 252 00:13:13,463 --> 00:13:16,966 He was very funny. William was very funny. 253 00:13:16,967 --> 00:13:20,800 William would make faces, just being humorous. 254 00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:22,331 He would cross his eyes on purpose 255 00:13:22,332 --> 00:13:24,333 and we would just laugh. 256 00:13:24,334 --> 00:13:27,037 You know, he was just carefree. 257 00:13:28,579 --> 00:13:30,239 Fox: However, to a fellow nurse, 258 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,083 DavisĀ“ jokes werenĀ“t always so funny. 259 00:13:34,084 --> 00:13:35,545 Nawaz: When we were 260 00:13:35,546 --> 00:13:38,147 in our critical-care nursing residency together, 261 00:13:38,148 --> 00:13:39,849 I was a new nurse. 262 00:13:39,850 --> 00:13:41,250 I was there to learn 263 00:13:41,251 --> 00:13:45,354 and constant, you know, disruption from him 264 00:13:45,355 --> 00:13:49,458 and an instructor having to pause and tell Will to be quiet. 265 00:13:49,459 --> 00:13:52,201 I mean, it was a little... Definitely a little annoying 266 00:13:52,202 --> 00:13:55,264 because we were not in high school anymore. 267 00:13:55,265 --> 00:13:59,268 There was a particular prank that he pulled. 268 00:13:59,269 --> 00:14:03,543 We had a nurse, and Will did put some medicine... 269 00:14:03,544 --> 00:14:07,376 It was a laxative-type medicine that he put in her coffee. 270 00:14:07,377 --> 00:14:10,550 So, I mean, it was a little unprofessional. 271 00:14:10,551 --> 00:14:13,883 Not to mention just a little cruel to someone, 272 00:14:13,884 --> 00:14:15,855 you know, thatĀ“s a friend of ours. 273 00:14:15,856 --> 00:14:18,358 And I think he might have just liked the attention. 274 00:14:19,990 --> 00:14:22,862 Well, that was a poor choice and maybe shows 275 00:14:22,863 --> 00:14:25,895 that he wasnĀ“t really thinking through his decisions. 276 00:14:25,896 --> 00:14:28,598 ThatĀ“s not entirely uncommon with serial killers. 277 00:14:28,599 --> 00:14:32,101 A lot of them are very narcissistic, grandiose. 278 00:14:32,102 --> 00:14:35,174 That is actually the early indicators of what later 279 00:14:35,175 --> 00:14:39,148 became the lack of empathy that facilitated serial killing. 280 00:14:39,149 --> 00:14:42,111 I mean, the years he was in jail 281 00:14:42,112 --> 00:14:44,453 awaiting trial, heĀ“s calling you. 282 00:14:44,454 --> 00:14:46,886 Was he maintaining his innocence that whole time? 283 00:14:46,887 --> 00:14:48,287 Well, yes. 284 00:14:48,288 --> 00:14:50,890 Uh, yes, it... Yeah. 285 00:14:50,891 --> 00:14:53,563 I think parts of me are still in shock over all this, 286 00:14:53,564 --> 00:14:56,295 because the day that they said he was guilty, 287 00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:59,368 we had no idea whatsoever until that time 288 00:14:59,369 --> 00:15:01,901 that he was guilty of this. We didnĀ“t know. 289 00:15:01,902 --> 00:15:03,202 So that was a big shift. 290 00:15:03,203 --> 00:15:05,004 Because there was never any motive. 291 00:15:05,005 --> 00:15:06,305 They can never give us a motive 292 00:15:06,306 --> 00:15:08,137 as to why he would do something like that. 293 00:15:08,138 --> 00:15:11,310 HeĀ“s going on this trajectory, which seems great. 294 00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:13,042 Wonderful plan. 295 00:15:13,043 --> 00:15:14,984 Wonderful plan, family, house, 296 00:15:14,985 --> 00:15:16,916 lives, you know, a great life. 297 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:19,018 And so what do you think changed? 298 00:15:19,019 --> 00:15:22,351 Well, I canĀ“t talk about that because I know what changed. 299 00:15:22,352 --> 00:15:25,154 But... but when you... When you talk to him, 300 00:15:25,155 --> 00:15:27,957 heĀ“ll tell you whatever he wants you to know about that 301 00:15:27,958 --> 00:15:30,329 because itĀ“s his story. So it was very... 302 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:33,063 The answers are very difficult for me to hear. 303 00:15:35,165 --> 00:15:38,037 In 2017, I did not know there was any issues 304 00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:39,308 going on with the patients. 305 00:15:39,309 --> 00:15:42,041 In fact, the first time we were told 306 00:15:42,042 --> 00:15:43,412 there was any kind of issue 307 00:15:43,413 --> 00:15:47,577 was after Will was put on administrative leave. 308 00:15:47,578 --> 00:15:49,949 William was very nonchalant about it. 309 00:15:49,950 --> 00:15:52,722 Of course, he didnĀ“t want me to worry. 310 00:15:52,723 --> 00:15:55,685 He said, you know, there... there is some stuff 311 00:15:55,686 --> 00:15:58,057 thatĀ“s going around the hospital. 312 00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:01,591 TheyĀ“re trying to blame me for a patient coding. 313 00:16:01,592 --> 00:16:04,964 And itĀ“s just all a misunderstanding. 314 00:16:04,965 --> 00:16:10,239 He was terminated and his license was revoked. 315 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,703 ThatĀ“s whenever they handcuffed him and put him in jail. 316 00:16:13,704 --> 00:16:16,475 At that point, thatĀ“s whenever I was like, 317 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:18,347 "This... This is a big deal." 318 00:16:18,348 --> 00:16:22,582 [ Handcuffs clicking ] 319 00:16:22,583 --> 00:16:24,113 Nawaz: Will Davis was... 320 00:16:24,114 --> 00:16:25,515 I feel like he was an excellent nurse. 321 00:16:25,516 --> 00:16:27,557 He was certainly someone you could count on 322 00:16:27,558 --> 00:16:29,218 to help you with whatever it is you needed. 323 00:16:29,219 --> 00:16:31,220 But there were many people just couldnĀ“t believe 324 00:16:31,221 --> 00:16:35,165 that somebody they knew would do something heinous as this. 325 00:16:37,127 --> 00:16:39,298 Ex-wife: He called me crying. 326 00:16:39,299 --> 00:16:40,499 He was like, you know, 327 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:42,301 "I canĀ“t believe this is happening." 328 00:16:42,302 --> 00:16:45,134 And, you know, "WeĀ“re still gonna fight through this." 329 00:16:45,135 --> 00:16:49,078 And I believed in him for eight years after that. 330 00:16:49,079 --> 00:16:51,280 Certainly, we were all a little bit up in arms 331 00:16:51,281 --> 00:16:53,743 because we felt that if... If this can happen to him, 332 00:16:53,744 --> 00:16:55,314 this can happen to any one of us. 333 00:16:55,315 --> 00:16:57,747 One of the biggest things we did 334 00:16:57,748 --> 00:17:00,089 was the GoFundMe page that was set up. 335 00:17:00,090 --> 00:17:04,053 And we raised almost $10,000 for that. 336 00:17:04,054 --> 00:17:05,655 Ex-wife: He even told me that he wanted to go back 337 00:17:05,656 --> 00:17:10,129 into the nursing field whenever he got out of jail. 338 00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:11,801 He had goals. 339 00:17:11,802 --> 00:17:15,404 And in the midst of all that, he knew exactly what he did. 340 00:17:15,405 --> 00:17:19,308 And he led me and my family and his family on for so many years. 341 00:17:19,309 --> 00:17:21,641 [ Sniffles ] 342 00:17:21,642 --> 00:17:23,413 Scary. 343 00:17:25,716 --> 00:17:28,117 Fox: Will Davis had charmed everyone so well. 344 00:17:28,118 --> 00:17:30,820 Many couldnĀ“t believe he had committed these crimes. 345 00:17:30,821 --> 00:17:33,583 However, charm can often be superficial, 346 00:17:33,584 --> 00:17:36,726 which is another characteristic of narcissism. 347 00:17:36,727 --> 00:17:39,629 But that doesnĀ“t make him a killer. 348 00:17:39,630 --> 00:17:42,192 So what was going on inside his head? 349 00:17:47,568 --> 00:17:49,398 Fox: So far, there arenĀ“t many red flags 350 00:17:49,399 --> 00:17:52,602 in Will DavisĀ“ background, but some combination of factors 351 00:17:52,603 --> 00:17:55,344 must have pushed him over the edge. 352 00:17:55,345 --> 00:17:56,806 Fox: You have three other sons? 353 00:17:56,807 --> 00:17:59,208 I do. In BillyĀ“s mind, letĀ“s say, 354 00:17:59,209 --> 00:18:01,811 how did he feel he was comparing to his brothers? 355 00:18:01,812 --> 00:18:03,653 I felt like because he was the oldest, 356 00:18:03,654 --> 00:18:06,856 maybe he felt like he should do very well. 357 00:18:06,857 --> 00:18:08,658 Do you feel like that was just a lot of pressure? 358 00:18:08,659 --> 00:18:11,190 Maybe even he was putting on himself? It was self-imposed. 359 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:13,563 Oh, yeah. Oh, I believe that. Big time. 360 00:18:13,564 --> 00:18:15,424 Now, I wanted to show you this one 361 00:18:15,425 --> 00:18:17,196 because this is the first... 362 00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:19,098 This is a really nice picture of Billy and his dad. 363 00:18:19,099 --> 00:18:22,732 He was about a year old at that time. 364 00:18:22,733 --> 00:18:25,174 But BillyĀ“s daddy... 365 00:18:25,175 --> 00:18:27,376 Now, donĀ“t get me wrong, he loved his children, 366 00:18:27,377 --> 00:18:28,608 very much so. 367 00:18:28,609 --> 00:18:29,879 His boys were very important to him. 368 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,842 He wanted them to do very, very well. 369 00:18:32,843 --> 00:18:35,845 And I think that if they didnĀ“t do very, very well, 370 00:18:35,846 --> 00:18:38,287 I think they feel like they let him down. 371 00:18:38,288 --> 00:18:42,452 He gave them the impression that they couldnĀ“t fail. 372 00:18:43,724 --> 00:18:46,325 Fox: So how might an inner pressure to succeed 373 00:18:46,326 --> 00:18:48,798 have manifested in later life? 374 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:51,130 Were you guys pretty financially stable yourselves? 375 00:18:51,131 --> 00:18:52,862 No, I think because 376 00:18:52,863 --> 00:18:56,165 they did not have a lot of things growing up. 377 00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:58,508 So I think Billy wanted to make sure 378 00:18:58,509 --> 00:19:01,771 that his children did have all those things, 379 00:19:01,772 --> 00:19:03,142 you know, growing up. 380 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:05,845 Right. He did want to. 381 00:19:05,846 --> 00:19:09,278 I will say in the beginning I did create a budget book 382 00:19:09,279 --> 00:19:13,352 because he obviously struggled with his finances. 383 00:19:13,353 --> 00:19:19,659 He started handling the finances himself in 2006 384 00:19:19,660 --> 00:19:22,161 and everything was fine for a while. 385 00:19:22,162 --> 00:19:25,895 Fox: Will DavisĀ“ killing spree begins in June 2017. 386 00:19:25,896 --> 00:19:28,798 So what was happening just before that? 387 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:31,170 So we actually went house hunting. 388 00:19:31,171 --> 00:19:33,903 And initially, I wanted something smaller. 389 00:19:33,904 --> 00:19:35,805 And thatĀ“s whenever William looked at me 390 00:19:35,806 --> 00:19:37,647 and he said, you know, "Trust me, 391 00:19:37,648 --> 00:19:39,278 if I couldnĀ“t afford this house, 392 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:40,751 we wouldnĀ“t even be looking at it." 393 00:19:42,953 --> 00:19:44,814 He had a new vehicle. And I think at that time, 394 00:19:44,815 --> 00:19:46,686 he was talking about putting in a swimming pool. 395 00:19:46,687 --> 00:19:49,859 Fox: Pools are really expensive. 396 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:51,891 I think this one was around $40,000. 397 00:19:51,892 --> 00:19:53,492 Holy cow. 398 00:19:53,493 --> 00:19:55,665 ThatĀ“s where he may get 399 00:19:55,666 --> 00:19:58,868 a lot of his self-esteem and gratification. 400 00:19:58,869 --> 00:20:01,330 There was always something external to him 401 00:20:01,331 --> 00:20:03,773 that was giving him that positive feedback 402 00:20:03,774 --> 00:20:05,374 and making him feel like, 403 00:20:05,375 --> 00:20:09,208 "Oh, this is my identity. This is why I feel good." 404 00:20:09,209 --> 00:20:10,540 Nawaz: I felt like it was a little bit 405 00:20:10,541 --> 00:20:11,711 living outside of his means. 406 00:20:11,712 --> 00:20:13,282 I knew what kind of money he made 407 00:20:13,283 --> 00:20:16,345 because I made the, you know, similar amount. 408 00:20:16,346 --> 00:20:18,688 Ex-wife: There would be times where the hospital 409 00:20:18,689 --> 00:20:21,490 would call William in for work. 410 00:20:21,491 --> 00:20:25,224 Honestly, I just wanted him to stay home for family time. 411 00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:26,726 And IĀ“m like, "Well, financially, 412 00:20:26,727 --> 00:20:28,998 if weĀ“re doing okay, I mean, do we really need it?" 413 00:20:28,999 --> 00:20:33,432 He would work from 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. 414 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:35,505 He worked night shifts. 415 00:20:35,506 --> 00:20:37,406 Then heĀ“d come home and study. 416 00:20:37,407 --> 00:20:39,869 And his study, alongside of that, 417 00:20:39,870 --> 00:20:43,643 was for acute care nurse practitioner. 418 00:20:43,644 --> 00:20:46,445 And then we decided to extend our family 419 00:20:46,446 --> 00:20:50,250 and thatĀ“s when we planned to have my daughter. 420 00:20:52,553 --> 00:20:53,783 Did he ever come to you 421 00:20:53,784 --> 00:20:55,424 and talk to you about any of that? 422 00:20:55,425 --> 00:20:57,587 You know, say how he was feeling or say how he was... 423 00:20:57,588 --> 00:20:59,258 The stress he was under 424 00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:01,390 or discuss it with you in any way? No. 425 00:21:01,391 --> 00:21:03,563 No. Because he knows what I would have said. 426 00:21:03,564 --> 00:21:04,864 You need to be in church and you need to be praying 427 00:21:04,865 --> 00:21:06,395 and you need to be reading your Bible. 428 00:21:06,396 --> 00:21:07,797 Man on television: to survive. 429 00:21:07,798 --> 00:21:09,699 Ex-wife: He never verbally came out to me 430 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:11,801 and said anything about the struggles 431 00:21:11,802 --> 00:21:14,975 or the finances or anything. 432 00:21:17,307 --> 00:21:19,008 You never think in a million years, 433 00:21:19,009 --> 00:21:21,581 "Oh, well, heĀ“s committing heinous crimes like... 434 00:21:21,582 --> 00:21:22,913 Like a serial killer." 435 00:21:25,686 --> 00:21:27,817 There was a great deal of stressors. 436 00:21:27,818 --> 00:21:30,990 It was a perfect storm. 437 00:21:30,991 --> 00:21:34,393 Fox: If stress is a factor that contributed to Will Davis 438 00:21:34,394 --> 00:21:35,765 committing these murders, 439 00:21:35,766 --> 00:21:37,527 then we might be able to see a correlation 440 00:21:37,528 --> 00:21:41,301 between those stressors and the murders themselves. 441 00:21:43,674 --> 00:21:47,036 I asked the students to dig into DavisĀ“ financial history 442 00:21:47,037 --> 00:21:50,680 and the patient deaths in the Tyler police report. 443 00:21:50,681 --> 00:21:54,483 Comparing the timing of these stresses, the known murders, 444 00:21:54,484 --> 00:21:57,486 and the other mysterious deaths at the hospital 445 00:21:57,487 --> 00:22:00,089 may also reveal more victims. 446 00:22:00,090 --> 00:22:01,891 ThereĀ“s a lot of events to go, a lot of dates. 447 00:22:01,892 --> 00:22:03,593 LetĀ“s just get it on the board. 448 00:22:03,594 --> 00:22:07,326 So letĀ“s start with the earliest thing that we know of, 449 00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:11,030 which I believe is the bankruptcy battle 450 00:22:11,031 --> 00:22:13,803 that he went through in 2014, 2015, right? 451 00:22:13,804 --> 00:22:15,935 Lawshe: When I looked through his bankruptcy files, 452 00:22:15,936 --> 00:22:19,468 I saw that he had $135,000 in debt. 453 00:22:19,469 --> 00:22:22,573 So, I mean, yeah, he was really deep in debt. 454 00:22:24,615 --> 00:22:26,816 Teuber: We also have 2015, 455 00:22:26,817 --> 00:22:29,919 where he begins his masterĀ“s degree in nursing. 456 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,022 So January 7, 2017, we have Patient "A," 457 00:22:33,023 --> 00:22:35,024 who suffered a health incident. 458 00:22:35,025 --> 00:22:37,757 There was no neurological component to that, 459 00:22:37,758 --> 00:22:40,690 but it was investigated under Davis. 460 00:22:40,691 --> 00:22:42,962 Then in May of 2017, his wife found out 461 00:22:42,963 --> 00:22:45,665 she was pregnant with baby number two. 462 00:22:45,666 --> 00:22:48,437 They also had just bought a house. 463 00:22:48,438 --> 00:22:51,541 We have June 14th, where Davis texted a co-worker 464 00:22:51,542 --> 00:22:53,002 for anxiety meds. 465 00:22:53,003 --> 00:22:55,444 That very night, a patient had a health episode. 466 00:22:55,445 --> 00:22:56,776 YouĀ“re saying that was the same night? 467 00:22:56,777 --> 00:22:59,448 It was the same night that he said that... 468 00:22:59,449 --> 00:23:01,480 He asked for those anxiety meds 469 00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:04,954 and he used the words before he gets into trouble. 470 00:23:04,955 --> 00:23:06,686 ThereĀ“s no imaging of the brain, 471 00:23:06,687 --> 00:23:09,058 but the hospital didnĀ“t even know 472 00:23:09,059 --> 00:23:10,920 to look there at that point. Right? 473 00:23:10,921 --> 00:23:13,723 Centelles: ThatĀ“s all assuming that he had something to do 474 00:23:13,724 --> 00:23:15,565 with that particular one. 475 00:23:15,566 --> 00:23:19,068 Teuber: And then just two days later, June 16, for patient "D." 476 00:23:19,069 --> 00:23:21,130 Burch: And then also on June 16, 477 00:23:21,131 --> 00:23:25,474 there is a patient "E" who died of an insulin overdose. 478 00:23:25,475 --> 00:23:26,906 How many people in that hospital 479 00:23:26,907 --> 00:23:28,808 have ever died from an insulin overdose, 480 00:23:28,809 --> 00:23:30,910 let alone during this exact same time period? 481 00:23:30,911 --> 00:23:34,083 He could have been perhaps experimenting, 482 00:23:34,084 --> 00:23:36,015 you know, what is the best method 483 00:23:36,016 --> 00:23:38,548 and whatĀ“s the least traceable method. 484 00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:40,049 Burckley: And so then the next day, I think we have 485 00:23:40,050 --> 00:23:43,492 another patient, right? - Yep. Patient "F." 486 00:23:43,493 --> 00:23:44,954 And then on June 22nd, 487 00:23:44,955 --> 00:23:47,426 you have Patient "G," who dies. 488 00:23:47,427 --> 00:23:49,128 Centelles: Which actually leads us 489 00:23:49,129 --> 00:23:51,761 to one of the first convictions... 490 00:23:51,762 --> 00:23:55,965 John Lafferty, and he dies of an air embolism. 491 00:23:55,966 --> 00:23:59,709 Burckley: ThatĀ“s on the 25th? 492 00:23:59,710 --> 00:24:02,041 ThereĀ“s a pattern here, guys. 493 00:24:02,042 --> 00:24:03,643 How many of these can be attributed to him 494 00:24:03,644 --> 00:24:04,944 and how many more are there? 495 00:24:04,945 --> 00:24:07,046 Lawshe: From the trial and, like, my notes, 496 00:24:07,047 --> 00:24:09,719 itĀ“s just... the... It only points to one nurse. 497 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,081 I mean, thereĀ“s not like this cabal of nurses 498 00:24:12,082 --> 00:24:15,454 going around, you know, like, killing people. 499 00:24:15,455 --> 00:24:18,788 People think once in a while, thereĀ“s an unusual death. 500 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:20,189 It wasnĀ“t until maybe June 501 00:24:20,190 --> 00:24:22,862 that these deaths started happening so rapidly, 502 00:24:22,863 --> 00:24:24,133 everyone took notice. 503 00:24:24,134 --> 00:24:26,465 The June 14th date sticks out to me 504 00:24:26,466 --> 00:24:29,639 where he has this anxiety-medication request. 505 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,542 I think the anxiety-meds request 506 00:24:32,543 --> 00:24:34,143 was a call for help. 507 00:24:34,144 --> 00:24:35,945 Like, "Please help me, 508 00:24:35,946 --> 00:24:37,947 IĀ“m gonna do something wrong." 509 00:24:37,948 --> 00:24:39,579 And itĀ“s like he knows 510 00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:43,482 heĀ“s hurtling towards this terrible place. 511 00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,055 And, you know, itĀ“s just that perfect concoction 512 00:24:46,056 --> 00:24:49,158 that really, like, puts him into overdrive. 513 00:24:49,159 --> 00:24:51,020 Fox: We know that there are lots of people 514 00:24:51,021 --> 00:24:53,022 that experience stressors like this 515 00:24:53,023 --> 00:24:55,164 and do not go on this negative path. 516 00:24:55,165 --> 00:24:59,068 Just to show people, how many of you guys experience 517 00:24:59,069 --> 00:25:01,801 these types of stressors... The financial pressures, 518 00:25:01,802 --> 00:25:03,703 being in grad school, 519 00:25:03,704 --> 00:25:07,777 having somebody that you know of be sick or pass away, 520 00:25:07,778 --> 00:25:10,810 having a new family member? 521 00:25:10,811 --> 00:25:13,783 Have any of you guys experienced one or all of those? 522 00:25:13,784 --> 00:25:16,916 Multiple. All of us. 523 00:25:16,917 --> 00:25:18,217 Oh, yeah. 524 00:25:18,218 --> 00:25:20,921 How many of us have committed murder? 525 00:25:23,153 --> 00:25:26,095 None. I think that really shows these murders are... 526 00:25:26,096 --> 00:25:28,698 Even though heĀ“s expressing that theyĀ“re due 527 00:25:28,699 --> 00:25:30,229 to the stressors he was under, 528 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:32,061 weĀ“ve all experienced these stressors 529 00:25:32,062 --> 00:25:34,605 and none of us are responding the same way. 530 00:25:36,537 --> 00:25:40,169 The data reveals some useful patterns in Will DavisĀ“ life, 531 00:25:40,170 --> 00:25:42,612 but there are other ways to try and discern 532 00:25:42,613 --> 00:25:44,944 his possible motivation. 533 00:25:44,945 --> 00:25:47,216 So IĀ“ve arranged a re-creation of the crime 534 00:25:47,217 --> 00:25:49,679 at the USF Nursing College. 535 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,083 I want my students to understand what Will Davis experienced, 536 00:25:54,084 --> 00:25:56,255 to be in that room for one minute 537 00:25:56,256 --> 00:25:59,559 and see the consequences of his actions. 538 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,632 Jacquie will spend one minute in the patientĀ“s room, 539 00:26:02,633 --> 00:26:03,733 just as Davis did. 540 00:26:03,734 --> 00:26:05,966 Burckley: Ready. 541 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,601 Teuber: One minute. 542 00:26:11,602 --> 00:26:12,972 [ Monitor beeping ] 543 00:26:12,973 --> 00:26:20,880 ♫♫ 544 00:26:20,881 --> 00:26:28,758 ♫♫ 545 00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:30,320 TimeĀ“s up, Jacquie. 546 00:26:33,594 --> 00:26:36,066 Fox: Will DavisĀ“ actions resulted in a code alarm. 547 00:26:37,968 --> 00:26:40,269 Now USF student nurses and doctors simulate 548 00:26:40,270 --> 00:26:42,201 a response, using a mannequin. 549 00:26:42,202 --> 00:26:46,105 Mr. Jones! 550 00:26:46,106 --> 00:26:49,209 I got a code in 22. 551 00:26:53,283 --> 00:26:55,084 I have no idea what happened. 552 00:26:55,085 --> 00:26:57,146 He just started coding. 553 00:26:57,147 --> 00:26:58,848 WhatĀ“s going on with this patient? 554 00:26:58,849 --> 00:27:00,119 He had heart surgery yesterday. 555 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:01,851 He was extubated this morning... 556 00:27:01,852 --> 00:27:04,393 Fox: As the nurses try to save the patientĀ“s life, 557 00:27:04,394 --> 00:27:06,195 Will just stands and watches. 558 00:27:06,196 --> 00:27:08,398 LetĀ“s get the board underneath him. 559 00:27:11,201 --> 00:27:13,162 Okay. 30 seconds to pulse check. 560 00:27:13,163 --> 00:27:17,867 ♫♫ 561 00:27:17,868 --> 00:27:22,371 ♫♫ 562 00:27:22,372 --> 00:27:24,243 Okay. Pulse check, rhythm check. 563 00:27:24,244 --> 00:27:25,374 Everybody, hands off. 564 00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:26,415 Got v-fib on the monitor. 565 00:27:26,416 --> 00:27:27,877 Charging 150. 566 00:27:27,878 --> 00:27:31,681 [ Paddles charging ] 567 00:27:31,682 --> 00:27:33,754 Okay, everybody clear. Hands up. 568 00:27:35,726 --> 00:27:38,988 [ Flatline ] 569 00:27:38,989 --> 00:27:42,062 Doctor: Time of death called at 12:04 a.m. 570 00:27:42,763 --> 00:27:49,438 ♫♫ 571 00:27:49,439 --> 00:27:51,941 [ Indistinct conversations ] 572 00:27:51,942 --> 00:27:53,402 - That was intense. - Yeah, it was. 573 00:27:53,403 --> 00:27:55,004 Centelles: That was a dummy. 574 00:27:55,005 --> 00:27:56,777 I canĀ“t even imagine a real person. 575 00:27:58,979 --> 00:28:00,810 Lawshe: I am deeply disturbed. 576 00:28:00,811 --> 00:28:04,253 You know, I felt pity for him, I think. 577 00:28:04,254 --> 00:28:07,056 But I just... I donĀ“t know anymore 578 00:28:07,057 --> 00:28:10,089 after watching that, like, uh... 579 00:28:10,090 --> 00:28:12,461 Yeah. I donĀ“t know. 580 00:28:12,462 --> 00:28:14,163 Burch: I just think of everybody in the room 581 00:28:14,164 --> 00:28:16,726 and how hard they were working to actually try to help. 582 00:28:16,727 --> 00:28:19,198 For someone to do that to someone 583 00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:21,200 and then you have the audacity to stand in the doorway 584 00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:23,903 and watch it happen, 585 00:28:23,904 --> 00:28:27,176 I mean, itĀ“s just no words to describe it. 586 00:28:27,177 --> 00:28:29,739 I mean, it really made me upset. Right? 587 00:28:29,740 --> 00:28:32,441 And so to think that this was an actual person 588 00:28:32,442 --> 00:28:34,844 and it wasnĀ“t just once or twice. 589 00:28:34,845 --> 00:28:36,916 It was four times, and it might be more times. 590 00:28:36,917 --> 00:28:38,317 Right? 591 00:28:38,318 --> 00:28:42,051 Fox: So thinking about Will DavisĀ“ risk factors, 592 00:28:42,052 --> 00:28:43,793 thereĀ“s something that was missing 593 00:28:43,794 --> 00:28:45,925 or something that he felt like he didnĀ“t have, 594 00:28:45,926 --> 00:28:48,758 that he had to turn to doing something as horrible as this 595 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:50,730 to feel like it was filling it. 596 00:28:50,731 --> 00:28:52,502 What do you guys think that was? 597 00:28:52,503 --> 00:28:56,035 - Control. - Control and power, yep. 598 00:28:56,036 --> 00:28:57,907 Just had control over the situation. 599 00:28:57,908 --> 00:28:59,909 It was just him and the patient. 600 00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:03,412 You know, thereĀ“s no one else to tell him, to say no. 601 00:29:03,413 --> 00:29:04,974 And, guys, how did you feel... 602 00:29:04,975 --> 00:29:07,847 I mean, youĀ“re criminologists, you study crime. 603 00:29:07,848 --> 00:29:10,920 But a lot of the time, we study it in terms of data points. 604 00:29:10,921 --> 00:29:13,122 I think our field needs to be a little bit more hands on 605 00:29:13,123 --> 00:29:14,423 and stop sitting behind a desk. 606 00:29:14,424 --> 00:29:16,826 Every data point is a person. 607 00:29:16,827 --> 00:29:19,228 And I think that this experience 608 00:29:19,229 --> 00:29:21,962 has really drilled that into my head. 609 00:29:23,764 --> 00:29:25,995 All of this is still only preparation 610 00:29:25,996 --> 00:29:29,098 for the ultimate part of our investigation... 611 00:29:29,099 --> 00:29:31,401 An interview with Will Davis himself. 612 00:29:36,807 --> 00:29:39,378 Fox: While stress seems to have been a contributing factor, 613 00:29:39,379 --> 00:29:41,551 it is unlikely it is the only cause 614 00:29:41,552 --> 00:29:44,213 of Will DavisĀ“ murder spree. 615 00:29:44,214 --> 00:29:45,885 WeĀ“re developing a theory 616 00:29:45,886 --> 00:29:50,089 that Davis was seeking control over other people. 617 00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:54,263 If thatĀ“s true, where did that need for control come from? 618 00:29:54,264 --> 00:29:59,969 ♫♫ 619 00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:05,474 ♫♫ 620 00:30:05,475 --> 00:30:08,277 How did you know Will Davis? 621 00:30:08,278 --> 00:30:11,180 He started working for my family, 622 00:30:11,181 --> 00:30:13,342 and we went to church together. 623 00:30:13,343 --> 00:30:16,085 And thatĀ“s how he got to know your cousin as well? 624 00:30:16,086 --> 00:30:18,347 Yes. How old was she at the time? 625 00:30:18,348 --> 00:30:21,090 Say, about 12 or 13, I guess. 626 00:30:21,091 --> 00:30:22,391 And how old was he at the time? 627 00:30:22,392 --> 00:30:24,924 16, 17. 628 00:30:24,925 --> 00:30:27,396 Tell me about their relationship, 629 00:30:27,397 --> 00:30:29,859 between Will and your cousin. 630 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:32,361 It was like he had to know where she was, 631 00:30:32,362 --> 00:30:34,964 who she was with, what she was doing. 632 00:30:34,965 --> 00:30:38,367 I think she was just liking the attention. 633 00:30:38,368 --> 00:30:43,142 He came off as very, like, charismatic and smart, 634 00:30:43,143 --> 00:30:46,115 and, like, the ability to do anything. 635 00:30:46,116 --> 00:30:48,277 What kind of things would he do 636 00:30:48,278 --> 00:30:50,950 when he then wasnĀ“t the charming Will? 637 00:30:50,951 --> 00:30:53,382 He would, like, push on her and grab her 638 00:30:53,383 --> 00:30:57,056 and make her go where he was going. 639 00:30:57,057 --> 00:30:59,959 Or, like, it was always a fight. 640 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,491 She was so young and moldable 641 00:31:02,492 --> 00:31:06,395 that he could almost, in a sense, 642 00:31:06,396 --> 00:31:09,999 make her believe everybody was against her but him. 643 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,272 What do you think his goal was of doing that? 644 00:31:13,273 --> 00:31:15,905 Making her solely dependable on him. 645 00:31:15,906 --> 00:31:18,608 I really, truly believe a lot of that 646 00:31:18,609 --> 00:31:23,452 came from a relationship, like, with his dad. 647 00:31:23,453 --> 00:31:25,655 He had to be in control, too, 648 00:31:25,656 --> 00:31:27,987 and we all seen it. 649 00:31:27,988 --> 00:31:31,390 His dad would, like, degrade the kids at times. 650 00:31:31,391 --> 00:31:35,895 He had to be better in a sense. 651 00:31:35,896 --> 00:31:38,027 And I think that Billy picked up 652 00:31:38,028 --> 00:31:40,199 a lot of those traits, you know, 653 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,431 and thatĀ“s why he pushed so hard 654 00:31:42,432 --> 00:31:44,634 to be so great at football or so great at this, 655 00:31:44,635 --> 00:31:48,337 because he had to be better than somebody. 656 00:31:48,338 --> 00:31:52,311 I think he really wanted to be liked. 657 00:31:52,312 --> 00:31:53,913 When we see people 658 00:31:53,914 --> 00:31:57,046 that are in such need for control over others, 659 00:31:57,047 --> 00:31:59,919 itĀ“s very difficult because they also sometimes want to be liked 660 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,351 by these people that they want to control. 661 00:32:02,352 --> 00:32:03,993 And the active ingredient in that 662 00:32:03,994 --> 00:32:06,495 to make that happen is manipulation. 663 00:32:06,496 --> 00:32:09,929 Except that doesnĀ“t usually last very long. 664 00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:12,201 I think she really started to get scared. 665 00:32:12,202 --> 00:32:17,066 And so they went and put a restraining order on him. 666 00:32:17,067 --> 00:32:20,109 And did he respect the restraining order? 667 00:32:20,110 --> 00:32:22,942 [ Sighs ] 668 00:32:22,943 --> 00:32:25,174 No. 669 00:32:25,175 --> 00:32:26,475 ThatĀ“s when, I think, 670 00:32:26,476 --> 00:32:28,648 the true colors started showing. 671 00:32:28,649 --> 00:32:32,181 He said, "If I canĀ“t be with you, 672 00:32:32,182 --> 00:32:36,125 then I will kill your mom. I will kill your dad." 673 00:32:36,126 --> 00:32:38,457 Like, "We will be together. 674 00:32:38,458 --> 00:32:41,661 Nothing will stop me from being with you." 675 00:32:41,662 --> 00:32:44,463 And thatĀ“s when he, you know, 676 00:32:44,464 --> 00:32:46,966 went as far as trying to drive his vehicle 677 00:32:46,967 --> 00:32:48,097 through their house. 678 00:32:48,098 --> 00:32:52,972 ♫♫ 679 00:32:52,973 --> 00:32:54,504 Just luckily, there was a tree. 680 00:32:54,505 --> 00:32:56,445 When he hit the ditch, he hit the tree 681 00:32:56,446 --> 00:32:59,208 and not the house, you know, because that was her bedroom. 682 00:32:59,209 --> 00:33:01,751 ThatĀ“s where she was asleep. 683 00:33:01,752 --> 00:33:03,613 As awful as it sounds, 684 00:33:03,614 --> 00:33:07,016 heĀ“s right where he deserves to be, so... 685 00:33:07,017 --> 00:33:11,020 That makes me emotional, so... 686 00:33:11,021 --> 00:33:15,625 Just because I watched him torment her. 687 00:33:15,626 --> 00:33:18,267 Yeah. IĀ“m sorry. 688 00:33:18,268 --> 00:33:21,631 So... sorry for being so emotional, 689 00:33:21,632 --> 00:33:24,333 but itĀ“s... 690 00:33:24,334 --> 00:33:27,507 I think her life probably could have been 691 00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:32,713 a lot different if he was never a part of it. 692 00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:37,617 Humans are not the same way in every situation. 693 00:33:37,618 --> 00:33:39,348 I can be nice to my mother, 694 00:33:39,349 --> 00:33:44,153 but if I am feeling very insecure, out of control, 695 00:33:44,154 --> 00:33:47,727 I have this deep-seated need for power over others 696 00:33:47,728 --> 00:33:50,429 and I am having that power be taken away, 697 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:52,702 I can act out extremely aggressively 698 00:33:52,703 --> 00:33:55,234 and that really actually helps build out this profile 699 00:33:55,235 --> 00:33:59,308 because I heard under what circumstances Will could act 700 00:33:59,309 --> 00:34:02,311 in a way that would be so unusual 701 00:34:02,312 --> 00:34:03,573 compared to the circumstances 702 00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:05,715 that his mother was telling me about 703 00:34:05,716 --> 00:34:10,149 and maybe who he is on a general consistent basis. 704 00:34:10,150 --> 00:34:12,221 But then to say, like, 705 00:34:12,222 --> 00:34:15,585 he killed and harmed innocent people, 706 00:34:15,586 --> 00:34:18,728 people that had nothing to do with him, you know, 707 00:34:18,729 --> 00:34:23,693 nothing to contribute to his life, basically. 708 00:34:23,694 --> 00:34:26,495 You know, I think thatĀ“s what catches me off guard 709 00:34:26,496 --> 00:34:30,139 because is it just a control thing? 710 00:34:30,140 --> 00:34:35,344 ♫♫ 711 00:34:35,345 --> 00:34:38,207 Maybe only Will Davis knows for sure. 712 00:34:38,208 --> 00:34:40,349 But will he tell the truth? 713 00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:43,613 I still need more information so I can cross-examine 714 00:34:43,614 --> 00:34:46,557 his version of events when I finally meet him. 715 00:34:51,692 --> 00:34:53,362 Fox: In WillĀ“s jail phone call, 716 00:34:53,363 --> 00:34:56,166 he claimed the hospital denied him work. 717 00:35:04,174 --> 00:35:07,376 Davis implies that he was trying to control his opportunities 718 00:35:07,377 --> 00:35:08,808 for overtime, 719 00:35:08,809 --> 00:35:12,742 but would a busy hospital really deny him work? 720 00:35:12,743 --> 00:35:16,345 That certainly wasnĀ“t true for WillĀ“s co-worker. 721 00:35:16,346 --> 00:35:18,147 Nawaz: I wasnĀ“t a full-time employee, 722 00:35:18,148 --> 00:35:19,649 but I was working full time hours. 723 00:35:19,650 --> 00:35:22,151 And so in that time, I was doing three days a week 724 00:35:22,152 --> 00:35:23,753 and then some extra here and there 725 00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:25,324 and thereĀ“s only seven days in a week. 726 00:35:25,325 --> 00:35:27,356 ThereĀ“s only so many hours you can work. 727 00:35:27,357 --> 00:35:29,729 Management was very supportive of the staff. 728 00:35:29,730 --> 00:35:32,502 This was not due to staffing issues. 729 00:35:32,503 --> 00:35:34,534 This was a new nurse. 730 00:35:34,535 --> 00:35:36,606 Okay, then, you know, we could have gone a different route. 731 00:35:36,607 --> 00:35:39,208 But this was a highly experienced nurse 732 00:35:39,209 --> 00:35:41,811 that was doing something like this. 733 00:35:41,812 --> 00:35:43,412 Very deliberate. 734 00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:46,516 Fox: So if there was a lot of work available, 735 00:35:46,517 --> 00:35:49,619 why would Davis jeopardize it? 736 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:53,452 How would patients dying be useful to him? 737 00:35:53,453 --> 00:35:57,426 Research shows over 90% of serial killers choose strangers 738 00:35:57,427 --> 00:35:58,928 to be their victims. 739 00:35:58,929 --> 00:36:02,491 But that doesnĀ“t mean victims were selected at random. 740 00:36:02,492 --> 00:36:10,492 ♫♫ 741 00:36:11,301 --> 00:36:14,604 One man who studied Davis closely during the investigation 742 00:36:14,605 --> 00:36:17,176 is Detective Greg Roberts. 743 00:36:17,177 --> 00:36:18,548 Roberts: He could have made overtime 744 00:36:18,549 --> 00:36:20,309 without hurting or causing harm to people. 745 00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:22,311 ThatĀ“s available in the medical field. 746 00:36:22,312 --> 00:36:24,353 I can tell you that for certain. 747 00:36:24,354 --> 00:36:27,657 He was picking particular people for particular reasons, 748 00:36:27,658 --> 00:36:30,419 not his patients, different ways of doing it. 749 00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:33,923 So, I mean, this is meticulous in a way. Very organized. 750 00:36:33,924 --> 00:36:35,695 So did you get the feeling 751 00:36:35,696 --> 00:36:38,327 he was willing to do this to patients, 752 00:36:38,328 --> 00:36:40,800 but he almost didnĀ“t want it to be happening to his patients 753 00:36:40,801 --> 00:36:42,371 because it would make him look bad? 754 00:36:42,372 --> 00:36:44,233 Well, one of the theories that came out... 755 00:36:44,234 --> 00:36:45,835 ThatĀ“s a very good question... 756 00:36:45,836 --> 00:36:47,737 Was that at the particular time, 757 00:36:47,738 --> 00:36:49,739 he was studying to be a nurse practitioner, 758 00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:51,611 which is a higher level of care provider 759 00:36:51,612 --> 00:36:52,882 that he was aspiring to be. 760 00:36:52,883 --> 00:36:54,744 He was actually in school for that, 761 00:36:54,745 --> 00:36:57,587 which would give him more practice, more money, 762 00:36:57,588 --> 00:36:59,749 a more prestigious position. 763 00:36:59,750 --> 00:37:02,291 So one of my theories was maybe 764 00:37:02,292 --> 00:37:04,994 he was pushing these negative outcomes on these people 765 00:37:04,995 --> 00:37:06,526 so that he could say, 766 00:37:06,527 --> 00:37:07,897 "Well, when IĀ“m the nurse practitioner, 767 00:37:07,898 --> 00:37:09,629 I can help because all of my patients, 768 00:37:09,630 --> 00:37:11,561 I recovered them successfully. 769 00:37:11,562 --> 00:37:13,432 These other people did not." 770 00:37:13,433 --> 00:37:16,806 They were worse. Interesting. So almost heĀ“s the hero. 771 00:37:16,807 --> 00:37:19,268 But thatĀ“s where he clearly wants to be. 772 00:37:19,269 --> 00:37:21,240 But he didnĀ“t think he could do it on his own merit. 773 00:37:21,241 --> 00:37:22,842 We donĀ“t want to leave anything to chance 774 00:37:22,843 --> 00:37:24,774 when we can control it or manipulate it. 775 00:37:24,775 --> 00:37:27,376 And that comes in from that narcissism, I think. 776 00:37:27,377 --> 00:37:30,980 Even when it comes to hurting and killing people. 777 00:37:30,981 --> 00:37:33,322 Yeah, heĀ“s gonna do whatever he can 778 00:37:33,323 --> 00:37:36,786 to make himself the top dog. 779 00:37:36,787 --> 00:37:39,529 So if weĀ“re trying to look into whether or not 780 00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:42,331 thereĀ“s more victims, I know the data are lacking. 781 00:37:42,332 --> 00:37:43,863 So do you have any suggestions for us? 782 00:37:43,864 --> 00:37:46,596 I would probably go straight to him and ask him. 783 00:37:46,597 --> 00:37:48,397 He could shine that light for us. 784 00:37:48,398 --> 00:37:50,958 Great advice. Hopefully weĀ“ll be able to do that later this week. 785 00:37:51,672 --> 00:37:55,905 If Will Davis was doing all of this just to advance his career, 786 00:37:55,906 --> 00:37:59,780 then the patients were truly just collateral damage to that. 787 00:38:02,953 --> 00:38:05,655 But what about the surviving victims? 788 00:38:05,656 --> 00:38:08,458 What do they think about why Davis did this? 789 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,420 Lawshe: Would you tell me 790 00:38:11,421 --> 00:38:12,862 a little bit about what happened, 791 00:38:12,863 --> 00:38:14,493 if you donĀ“t mind talking about it? 792 00:38:14,494 --> 00:38:17,366 Well, I never dreamed that I would ever be 793 00:38:17,367 --> 00:38:20,069 in jeopardy in a hospital. 794 00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:22,932 I woke up and I felt like I couldnĀ“t breathe, 795 00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:25,334 and I had tubes everywhere. 796 00:38:25,335 --> 00:38:27,006 And I told them I couldnĀ“t breathe. 797 00:38:27,007 --> 00:38:28,708 From what I can understand, 798 00:38:28,709 --> 00:38:31,511 Will Davis was not even assigned to me, period. 799 00:38:31,512 --> 00:38:36,045 He wasnĀ“t even associated with my case at all. 800 00:38:36,046 --> 00:38:38,848 Until I saw his picture in the paper, 801 00:38:38,849 --> 00:38:41,651 I couldnĀ“t even tell you what the man looked like. 802 00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:42,852 Nor my family. 803 00:38:42,853 --> 00:38:45,725 Wow. 804 00:38:45,726 --> 00:38:48,327 How has your life changed since then? 805 00:38:48,328 --> 00:38:51,801 You know, I mean, itĀ“s kind of a big question. 806 00:38:51,802 --> 00:38:53,503 ItĀ“s changed dramatically. 807 00:38:53,504 --> 00:38:56,065 I mean, the strokes I had affected my left side. 808 00:38:56,066 --> 00:38:57,637 I picked up a plate. 809 00:38:57,638 --> 00:38:59,909 For example, I get a hamburger. 810 00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:01,841 My hand just go to jumping and shaking 811 00:39:01,842 --> 00:39:03,873 and I throw it all over the house. 812 00:39:03,874 --> 00:39:05,675 I just canĀ“t control it. 813 00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:08,718 Taking that into account, I mean, how do you... 814 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,380 How do you feel now? Do you feel safe? 815 00:39:11,381 --> 00:39:13,783 If IĀ“m awake and breathing, 816 00:39:13,784 --> 00:39:16,025 IĀ“ve got a gun on. Yeah. 817 00:39:16,026 --> 00:39:18,888 Ā“Cause thatĀ“s... Even when somebody 818 00:39:18,889 --> 00:39:22,361 pulls up in my yard, I donĀ“t trust anybody. 819 00:39:22,362 --> 00:39:23,633 During the trial or... 820 00:39:23,634 --> 00:39:25,895 When did you see that security footage 821 00:39:25,896 --> 00:39:29,098 and what did you think about it? 822 00:39:29,099 --> 00:39:31,742 He actually was skipping down the hall. 823 00:39:34,645 --> 00:39:35,975 It blew my mind. 824 00:39:35,976 --> 00:39:37,647 I couldnĀ“t believe somebody was 825 00:39:37,648 --> 00:39:38,848 as sadistic... and... 826 00:39:38,849 --> 00:39:42,052 And... And you want to know why. 827 00:39:43,954 --> 00:39:46,986 I think Will enjoyed it. 828 00:39:46,987 --> 00:39:48,487 I think it started out 829 00:39:48,488 --> 00:39:51,791 him just seeing how much power he had. 830 00:39:51,792 --> 00:39:54,493 And Will got to where he liked it 831 00:39:54,494 --> 00:39:57,867 and exactly what they said in the courtroom. 832 00:39:57,868 --> 00:40:00,800 ThereĀ“s no better place for a serial killer to hide 833 00:40:00,801 --> 00:40:01,802 than a hospital. 834 00:40:04,875 --> 00:40:06,806 Fox: When we began this investigation, 835 00:40:06,807 --> 00:40:08,538 we hoped to understand DavisĀ“ motive 836 00:40:08,539 --> 00:40:12,141 to help bring closure for victims like Ricky Glenn. 837 00:40:12,142 --> 00:40:16,546 ♫♫ 838 00:40:16,547 --> 00:40:20,419 So far, weĀ“ve gathered a lot from people who knew Davis. 839 00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:22,692 But for all our theories, thereĀ“s one person 840 00:40:22,693 --> 00:40:26,095 that may know the answers better than anyone else... 841 00:40:26,096 --> 00:40:27,827 The man himself. 842 00:40:27,828 --> 00:40:33,903 ♫♫ 843 00:40:33,904 --> 00:40:39,970 ♫♫ 844 00:40:44,645 --> 00:40:47,817 [ Laughing ] 845 00:40:47,818 --> 00:40:49,118 IĀ“m sorry. 846 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,681 Okay. Hi, Will. 847 00:40:51,682 --> 00:40:52,782 Hi, Miss Fox. 848 00:40:52,783 --> 00:40:54,083 Hello. You can call me Bryanna. 849 00:40:54,084 --> 00:40:56,025 Bryanna? Yes. Thank you for having me. 850 00:40:56,026 --> 00:40:57,887 One thing I really wanted to talk to you about 851 00:40:57,888 --> 00:40:59,488 was, you know, your childhood. 852 00:40:59,489 --> 00:41:01,490 I think that was maybe one of the first times 853 00:41:01,491 --> 00:41:03,092 that you started feeling 854 00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:05,464 a lot of anxiety and depression. Depression. 855 00:41:05,465 --> 00:41:08,467 I had a lot of depression in the fall of 2000. 856 00:41:08,468 --> 00:41:10,900 Went to Kilgore College. 857 00:41:10,901 --> 00:41:13,503 I felt like there is like no hope in life. 858 00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:15,505 I didnĀ“t know what I wanted to do for a career. 859 00:41:15,506 --> 00:41:18,708 IĀ“d went to the doctor at that time for that, 860 00:41:18,709 --> 00:41:20,009 and he had prescribed me, 861 00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:22,652 I guess, an SSRI for depression. 862 00:41:22,653 --> 00:41:24,614 And then I wasnĀ“t on it very long. 863 00:41:24,615 --> 00:41:26,155 And after that, and then thatĀ“s when 864 00:41:26,156 --> 00:41:30,059 I tried to run my truck into a tree, commit suicide. 865 00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:32,892 And then I cut myself a few times. 866 00:41:32,893 --> 00:41:36,526 I had a bunch of different acts like that 867 00:41:36,527 --> 00:41:38,227 that, you know, werenĀ“t... werenĀ“t good. 868 00:41:38,228 --> 00:41:39,799 They said I was bipolar, 869 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,801 put me on Depakote and lithium at that time. 870 00:41:41,802 --> 00:41:45,034 To be honest, I really... I donĀ“t feel like... 871 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:47,206 I never really thought I was bipolar, 872 00:41:47,207 --> 00:41:49,509 but I know they had mentioned bipolar. 873 00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:51,911 I never went back to get on that medication. 874 00:41:51,912 --> 00:41:53,182 I just kind of more or less turning 875 00:41:53,183 --> 00:41:58,187 to anti-anxiety, anti-depressive type... 876 00:41:58,188 --> 00:42:00,990 What, if any, financial stressors did you have 877 00:42:00,991 --> 00:42:02,922 and when did they begin? 878 00:42:02,923 --> 00:42:04,093 IĀ“m gonna be honest, 879 00:42:04,094 --> 00:42:06,255 IĀ“m horrible when it comes to finances. 880 00:42:06,256 --> 00:42:09,158 When I became a nurse, I already had built up debt. 881 00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:10,760 I paid my bills on time. 882 00:42:10,761 --> 00:42:13,162 ItĀ“s just what the problem was, over time, 883 00:42:13,163 --> 00:42:15,935 I started suffocating myself with so much stuff 884 00:42:15,936 --> 00:42:19,639 where IĀ“m just, like, basically paying the minimum payment 885 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,741 just to keep my credit good each month. 886 00:42:21,742 --> 00:42:24,774 YouĀ“re just overwhelmed, stressed. 887 00:42:24,775 --> 00:42:26,876 You think thereĀ“s no hope, thereĀ“s no way out of this. 888 00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:29,949 How am I gonna... You know, what have I done to myself? 889 00:42:29,950 --> 00:42:32,121 And all of these financial pressures? 890 00:42:32,122 --> 00:42:33,823 I mean, can you explain mentally, 891 00:42:33,824 --> 00:42:37,156 like where you were at while youĀ“re going through them? 892 00:42:37,157 --> 00:42:39,128 Well, I was taken Lexapro for depression, 893 00:42:39,129 --> 00:42:43,993 and then I stopped taking Lexapro about April of Ā“17. 894 00:42:43,994 --> 00:42:46,095 I was having sexual side effects from it. 895 00:42:46,096 --> 00:42:49,899 And so it was very hard as a man, your pride, 896 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:51,000 your confidence, everything. 897 00:42:51,001 --> 00:42:52,572 You know, itĀ“s like, "Oh, my gosh, 898 00:42:52,573 --> 00:42:54,804 what in the worldĀ“s going on?" 899 00:42:54,805 --> 00:42:57,947 ItĀ“s like... And so I stopped taking it. 900 00:42:57,948 --> 00:43:01,110 The first incident was, I think, June 15th. 901 00:43:01,111 --> 00:43:03,753 But prior to that, I had gotten called off 902 00:43:03,754 --> 00:43:06,285 a couple of different times and I thought, 903 00:43:06,286 --> 00:43:08,257 "Okay, well, IĀ“m going into overtime. 904 00:43:08,258 --> 00:43:10,159 They need to call me off, let somebody else go in." 905 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,261 And so I thought, "Okay, thatĀ“s fine." 906 00:43:12,262 --> 00:43:14,994 But then when I got to work the next time I go to work, 907 00:43:14,995 --> 00:43:18,227 my co-workers would say, "Hey, Will, 908 00:43:18,228 --> 00:43:20,099 where were you at last night?" 909 00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:21,801 You know, "Well, I got called off. 910 00:43:21,802 --> 00:43:23,232 They said I was gonna be in overtime. 911 00:43:23,233 --> 00:43:24,704 So they had to call me off," and they said, 912 00:43:24,705 --> 00:43:25,975 "Oh, man, we could have used you last night. 913 00:43:25,976 --> 00:43:27,837 We were... We were... got hammered." 914 00:43:27,838 --> 00:43:29,879 You know, theyĀ“re basically stressed out, low staffs. 915 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,341 So it just started building on my mind, like, 916 00:43:32,342 --> 00:43:36,215 it really made me... I got really angry. 917 00:43:36,216 --> 00:43:40,319 My co-workers are sitting there struggling. 918 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,121 I think that, for a lot of people, 919 00:43:42,122 --> 00:43:46,756 youĀ“re, you know, this young, upstanding nurse, citizen 920 00:43:46,757 --> 00:43:48,257 and then this thing happened. 921 00:43:48,258 --> 00:43:50,399 If I go ahead and explain, I think what... 922 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,231 I guess if I can explain. Please. 923 00:43:52,232 --> 00:43:54,263 From the first, uh... 924 00:43:54,264 --> 00:43:57,036 Like I said, started in June 2017, 925 00:43:57,037 --> 00:43:59,909 Mr. Sanders, the very first patient, 926 00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:01,310 that night, 927 00:44:01,311 --> 00:44:03,272 everything started going went through my head, 928 00:44:03,273 --> 00:44:05,845 like, about everything... Especially at the hospital. 929 00:44:05,846 --> 00:44:08,748 More the upper people because I feel like, you know, 930 00:44:08,749 --> 00:44:12,421 theyĀ“re up here sitting in the office getting bonuses, 931 00:44:12,422 --> 00:44:14,283 taking and putting all these orders out 932 00:44:14,284 --> 00:44:15,885 for us to do all these things. 933 00:44:15,886 --> 00:44:16,926 And they donĀ“t even know how hard it... 934 00:44:16,927 --> 00:44:18,127 What weĀ“re really doing 935 00:44:18,128 --> 00:44:20,289 and theyĀ“re not down here with us. 936 00:44:20,290 --> 00:44:21,931 I had to go check a blood sugar. 937 00:44:21,932 --> 00:44:24,263 He was on an insulin drip. 938 00:44:24,264 --> 00:44:27,236 And when I went in there, 939 00:44:27,237 --> 00:44:29,198 itĀ“s like I didnĀ“t even see, like, the patient. 940 00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:31,400 Mr. Sanders. I didnĀ“t even see Mr. Sanders. 941 00:44:31,401 --> 00:44:32,972 ItĀ“s like Mr. Sanders is there, 942 00:44:32,973 --> 00:44:34,674 but my head is somewhere else. 943 00:44:34,675 --> 00:44:36,806 I had a flush in my pocket. I had to check a blood sugar. 944 00:44:36,807 --> 00:44:40,179 So you have to use the arterial line for that. 945 00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:42,782 I took the syringe. How to explain it exactly... 946 00:44:42,783 --> 00:44:45,284 I pulled it back. I put it back on there, 947 00:44:45,285 --> 00:44:47,316 and I pushed it in there. 948 00:44:47,317 --> 00:44:51,060 And while I was doing this, IĀ“m getting this euphoria... 949 00:44:51,061 --> 00:44:52,361 Like, this exhilarating force 950 00:44:52,362 --> 00:44:55,024 going through my body in my head. 951 00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:57,897 And IĀ“m just like... It is feeling 952 00:44:57,898 --> 00:44:59,398 like IĀ“m out of this world. 953 00:44:59,399 --> 00:45:01,230 YouĀ“re thinking, "Oh, my gosh," almost like a drug. 954 00:45:01,231 --> 00:45:04,333 Like youĀ“re getting high off a drug or something. 955 00:45:04,334 --> 00:45:07,006 But then that feeling afterwards, 956 00:45:07,007 --> 00:45:08,708 whenever people would come rushing in 957 00:45:08,709 --> 00:45:11,180 or youĀ“d have the code button going off 958 00:45:11,181 --> 00:45:13,783 and people would rush in, you would get like... 959 00:45:13,784 --> 00:45:15,785 It would amplify that feeling I had. 960 00:45:15,786 --> 00:45:17,747 It gave me this control, the power, 961 00:45:17,748 --> 00:45:19,719 that euphoria that went through, 962 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:22,422 that exhilarating rush that goes through your body. 963 00:45:24,795 --> 00:45:26,395 After Mr. Sanders, 964 00:45:26,396 --> 00:45:30,730 the next night was Mr. Lafferty. 965 00:45:30,731 --> 00:45:33,503 I would walk in, go in, do the same thing, 966 00:45:33,504 --> 00:45:36,205 and even afterwards, having that peace and that calm. 967 00:45:36,206 --> 00:45:38,137 ItĀ“s like I didnĀ“t worry about bills, 968 00:45:38,138 --> 00:45:39,509 I didnĀ“t worry about... Think about money. 969 00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:42,742 I didnĀ“t think about the stresses of life. 970 00:45:42,743 --> 00:45:44,744 It was like I just kind of relaxed. 971 00:45:44,745 --> 00:45:49,178 But then thereafter, it really became more of an addiction. 972 00:45:49,179 --> 00:45:51,521 ItĀ“s horrible. I canĀ“t even... 973 00:45:51,522 --> 00:45:53,422 I donĀ“t even like talking about it. 974 00:45:53,423 --> 00:45:54,755 ItĀ“s... itĀ“s horrible. 975 00:45:56,456 --> 00:45:59,228 One question that I was wondering, 976 00:45:59,229 --> 00:46:02,331 now is the opportunity, if thereĀ“s any other families 977 00:46:02,332 --> 00:46:05,294 or any other people that you want to, you know, 978 00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:09,268 I would say, you know, confess or have absolution, 979 00:46:09,269 --> 00:46:11,171 get off your chest. 980 00:46:14,404 --> 00:46:18,077 There was the 96-year-old elderly lady in 2016. 981 00:46:18,078 --> 00:46:19,448 I did fail to mention her. 982 00:46:19,449 --> 00:46:21,551 And that was more of a mercy thing. 983 00:46:21,552 --> 00:46:24,353 She was 96. She was a DNR, do not resuscitate, 984 00:46:24,354 --> 00:46:27,016 and she was basically end of life. 985 00:46:27,017 --> 00:46:30,459 ItĀ“s hard to sit there and watch her suffering. 986 00:46:30,460 --> 00:46:33,462 Oh, my gosh. This is it. This is the moment. 987 00:46:33,463 --> 00:46:36,225 And youĀ“re wanting to react to that. 988 00:46:36,226 --> 00:46:38,528 You want to say, "How could you do that? 989 00:46:38,529 --> 00:46:40,329 Why did you lie about it for so long?" 990 00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:41,801 You want to yell all of that out, 991 00:46:41,802 --> 00:46:44,934 but if you do, heĀ“s gonna shut down. 992 00:46:44,935 --> 00:46:47,436 Can you just tell me really quickly more about that? 993 00:46:47,437 --> 00:46:48,938 So that was the first time. 994 00:46:48,939 --> 00:46:50,409 And how... how did you go about that? 995 00:46:50,410 --> 00:46:52,011 So basically, I just... 996 00:46:52,012 --> 00:46:53,883 I gave her potassium chloride to stop her heart. 997 00:46:53,884 --> 00:46:56,946 I gave her pain medicine, so sheĀ“d be comfortable. 998 00:46:56,947 --> 00:46:58,948 I shouldnĀ“t have played God. I should have done that. 999 00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:01,551 I was wrong. But I just... 1000 00:47:01,552 --> 00:47:04,223 It was hard watching her suffer. 1001 00:47:04,224 --> 00:47:06,826 I do believe that maybe by doing that, 1002 00:47:06,827 --> 00:47:09,960 it might have opened a door that I shouldnĀ“t have opened. 1003 00:47:12,162 --> 00:47:14,834 And this is my last question. You mentioned it earlier, 1004 00:47:14,835 --> 00:47:18,067 but do you believe that youĀ“re going to heaven? 1005 00:47:18,068 --> 00:47:19,509 I do. I do. 1006 00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:21,140 IĀ“ve... IĀ“ve been... You know, I feel like, you know, 1007 00:47:21,141 --> 00:47:23,913 Jesus, IĀ“ve turned my life around, back to him. 1008 00:47:23,914 --> 00:47:28,247 I focus on the Lord, and heĀ“s forgiven me. 1009 00:47:28,248 --> 00:47:30,920 So... That was all I had. 1010 00:47:30,921 --> 00:47:32,321 IĀ“m sorry it went so fast, Will. 1011 00:47:32,322 --> 00:47:34,123 I know it was quick. 1012 00:47:34,124 --> 00:47:37,387 I was hoping to get that, you know, that off my chest. 1013 00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:41,862 Lawshe: Wow. 1014 00:47:44,635 --> 00:47:47,066 So where to begin? Burckley: IĀ“m, like, I donĀ“t even know. 1015 00:47:47,067 --> 00:47:51,070 I have done... dozens, if not hundreds, of interviews 1016 00:47:51,071 --> 00:47:55,004 and asked people if they had committed other crimes, 1017 00:47:55,005 --> 00:47:56,546 let alone a murder. 1018 00:47:56,547 --> 00:47:59,478 And I donĀ“t think IĀ“ve had any at all 1019 00:47:59,479 --> 00:48:01,581 confessions to murder occur. 1020 00:48:01,582 --> 00:48:03,452 This is the first one. 1021 00:48:03,453 --> 00:48:05,014 I donĀ“t know that we ever anticipated 1022 00:48:05,015 --> 00:48:06,986 that we would actually get that to happen. 1023 00:48:06,987 --> 00:48:08,558 I personally was shocked 1024 00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:11,290 that he had confessed to another murder. 1025 00:48:11,291 --> 00:48:13,422 My biggest thing is, throughout this entire interview, 1026 00:48:13,423 --> 00:48:15,424 did he cry once? Did he get emotional? 1027 00:48:15,425 --> 00:48:17,927 Really emotional once? This entire time, 1028 00:48:17,928 --> 00:48:19,629 IĀ“m staring you dead in your eyes. 1029 00:48:19,630 --> 00:48:22,532 And thereĀ“s nothing on your face that says, "IĀ“m sorry." 1030 00:48:22,533 --> 00:48:24,333 But do we really believe he waited then 1031 00:48:24,334 --> 00:48:26,435 a whole year, year and a half, 1032 00:48:26,436 --> 00:48:29,238 before he committed the next one? 1033 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,910 Fox: How did you feel watching that 1034 00:48:30,911 --> 00:48:34,043 and hearing him explain it so honestly? 1035 00:48:34,044 --> 00:48:36,245 Horrified. One of the things that we learned 1036 00:48:36,246 --> 00:48:37,917 throughout the arrest report 1037 00:48:37,918 --> 00:48:39,519 was that just before his arrest, 1038 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,450 he ended up doing an Internet search 1039 00:48:41,451 --> 00:48:44,423 for the list of serial killers by number of victims. 1040 00:48:44,424 --> 00:48:47,296 So I think that goes the point of manipulation is, 1041 00:48:47,297 --> 00:48:49,058 does he want this notoriety? 1042 00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:51,260 He compares himself to the higher-ups in admin, 1043 00:48:51,261 --> 00:48:55,164 that he still canĀ“t obtain the goals and they somehow can. 1044 00:48:55,165 --> 00:48:57,466 And so he turns to illegitimate means to kind of deal 1045 00:48:57,467 --> 00:48:59,238 with those negative emotions. 1046 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,111 But heĀ“s also throwing things in there that he came with 1047 00:49:02,112 --> 00:49:03,412 after the fact that it happened, 1048 00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:05,074 after you spent three years in prison, 1049 00:49:05,075 --> 00:49:07,116 you were like, "Oh, okay, yeah, thatĀ“s what it was." 1050 00:49:07,117 --> 00:49:08,447 You had time to sort it out. 1051 00:49:08,448 --> 00:49:10,049 But at that time, he was more so confused. 1052 00:49:10,050 --> 00:49:12,121 It had nothing to do with the people above. 1053 00:49:12,122 --> 00:49:15,625 Because he himself has to live with those actions. 1054 00:49:15,626 --> 00:49:19,128 So he is rationalizing those actions to himself. 1055 00:49:19,129 --> 00:49:21,260 Teuber: Is he playing us and trying to make us feel like 1056 00:49:21,261 --> 00:49:23,963 it was all these sad things that happened in his life 1057 00:49:23,964 --> 00:49:25,094 and these hardships? 1058 00:49:25,095 --> 00:49:27,136 Or is he trying to play us? 1059 00:49:27,137 --> 00:49:31,400 I have no pity for him. He gets no pity from me at all. 1060 00:49:31,401 --> 00:49:35,144 I mean, I donĀ“t care how much youĀ“re going through. 1061 00:49:35,145 --> 00:49:37,176 You killed 12 people, and then you come 1062 00:49:37,177 --> 00:49:39,148 and say you have stress. 1063 00:49:39,149 --> 00:49:40,479 I donĀ“t care. You stop being... 1064 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,982 IĀ“m sorry, but stop being a little punk. 1065 00:49:42,983 --> 00:49:45,354 I mean, itĀ“s just that simple. 1066 00:49:45,355 --> 00:49:46,986 ItĀ“s almost as a revenge tactic. 1067 00:49:46,987 --> 00:49:48,688 Because he was upset with the hospital. 1068 00:49:48,689 --> 00:49:50,189 ItĀ“s insane. 1069 00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:52,091 And you can see that rationalization, too. 1070 00:49:52,092 --> 00:49:54,694 Like, she was end of life, right? 1071 00:49:54,695 --> 00:49:57,066 She was going to die anyway. 1072 00:49:57,067 --> 00:49:58,998 And he felt like he was, 1073 00:49:58,999 --> 00:50:01,671 you know, cutting... Cutting her suffering short. 1074 00:50:01,672 --> 00:50:04,534 But his reasons for doing it are completely different. 1075 00:50:04,535 --> 00:50:08,377 Never once did he invoke his medicine, his stressors, 1076 00:50:08,378 --> 00:50:10,009 his financial troubles, 1077 00:50:10,010 --> 00:50:12,542 anything that was going on... The hospital. 1078 00:50:12,543 --> 00:50:14,413 Instead, he said it was a mercy killing. 1079 00:50:14,414 --> 00:50:16,415 All the reasons, he said, for all the rest of the killings, 1080 00:50:16,416 --> 00:50:18,417 now all of a sudden went out the window. 1081 00:50:18,418 --> 00:50:20,019 I think the one constant, though, 1082 00:50:20,020 --> 00:50:22,191 is that need for power and control. 1083 00:50:22,192 --> 00:50:25,094 You know, regardless of whether it was frustration 1084 00:50:25,095 --> 00:50:26,556 with the administration, 1085 00:50:26,557 --> 00:50:29,258 whether he thought, you know, he could invoke 1086 00:50:29,259 --> 00:50:33,132 this God-like sense for that first mercy killing. 1087 00:50:33,133 --> 00:50:34,504 For some people who feel 1088 00:50:34,505 --> 00:50:36,365 like they have a lack of control in their life, 1089 00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:39,669 they feel like they have to do things, like use substances 1090 00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:43,673 or have eating disorders or have anxiety or depression. 1091 00:50:43,674 --> 00:50:47,276 Maybe Will DavisĀ“ method was actually taking control 1092 00:50:47,277 --> 00:50:49,719 by taking control of other peopleĀ“s futures and lives. 1093 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:51,551 But no matter what, this is still somebody 1094 00:50:51,552 --> 00:50:53,523 that thought murder was an option. 1095 00:50:53,524 --> 00:50:56,225 But then he talks about how he felt during the killings. 1096 00:50:56,226 --> 00:50:58,628 I just feel like you canĀ“t just... just make that up, 1097 00:50:58,629 --> 00:51:00,329 like this euphoric feeling 1098 00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:03,733 and then this addiction to taking peopleĀ“s lives. 1099 00:51:03,734 --> 00:51:06,135 And, you know, and he was talking about, like, 1100 00:51:06,136 --> 00:51:08,397 the come up and the come down like it was a drug. 1101 00:51:08,398 --> 00:51:09,799 ItĀ“s like a redirection of emotion 1102 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,541 and feeling where itĀ“s like, 1103 00:51:11,542 --> 00:51:13,442 "Now IĀ“m not just like a drug addiction. 1104 00:51:13,443 --> 00:51:15,344 IĀ“m not feeling these negative emotions. 1105 00:51:15,345 --> 00:51:16,706 ItĀ“s a feeling of euphoria. 1106 00:51:16,707 --> 00:51:20,209 ItĀ“s more of I enjoyed the feeling itself." 1107 00:51:20,210 --> 00:51:23,482 Fox: A need for control may have made Davis a killer, 1108 00:51:23,483 --> 00:51:25,755 but it was his addiction to the thrill of killing 1109 00:51:25,756 --> 00:51:28,618 which made him a serial killer. 1110 00:51:28,619 --> 00:51:31,220 Burch: My biggest thing is how many people have you passed by 1111 00:51:31,221 --> 00:51:32,692 who has killed someone? 1112 00:51:32,693 --> 00:51:35,424 A lot of people think of serial killers as evil. 1113 00:51:35,425 --> 00:51:38,097 TheyĀ“re, you know, you can spot them a mile away. 1114 00:51:38,098 --> 00:51:40,700 But the Will Davis that weĀ“ve come to know is not like that. 1115 00:51:40,701 --> 00:51:43,503 So I think that also just should shift our mentality 1116 00:51:43,504 --> 00:51:46,105 about what serial killers are like, 1117 00:51:46,106 --> 00:51:47,677 what evil is like, 1118 00:51:47,678 --> 00:51:51,240 what maybe even the reasons that people commit crimes, 1119 00:51:51,241 --> 00:51:53,643 even if they donĀ“t have a justifiable reason, 1120 00:51:53,644 --> 00:51:56,215 there still are reasons. Okay. 1121 00:51:56,216 --> 00:51:59,188 Our second major goal was identifying 1122 00:51:59,189 --> 00:52:01,691 if there are other potential victims. 1123 00:52:01,692 --> 00:52:03,422 I think now our next steps 1124 00:52:03,423 --> 00:52:05,825 are turning this information over to the prosecutors 1125 00:52:05,826 --> 00:52:07,897 and the police department and seeing 1126 00:52:07,898 --> 00:52:12,201 if they can identify the woman who he had killed 1127 00:52:12,202 --> 00:52:14,834 to see if that can bring closure to her family. 1128 00:52:14,835 --> 00:52:17,707 [ Line ringing ] 1129 00:52:17,708 --> 00:52:22,141 ♫♫ 1130 00:52:22,142 --> 00:52:24,173 Hello. This is Detective Roberts. 1131 00:52:24,174 --> 00:52:27,817 Hi, Detective Roberts, this is Bryanna Fox. 1132 00:52:27,818 --> 00:52:29,849 I promised you I would call you 1133 00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:32,251 after my interview with Will Davis, 1134 00:52:32,252 --> 00:52:34,684 and so I wanted to call you right away 1135 00:52:34,685 --> 00:52:36,656 and let you know what happened. 1136 00:52:36,657 --> 00:52:44,657 ♫♫ 1137 00:52:44,665 --> 00:52:50,941 ♫♫ 89406

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