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if someone doesn't help me

help me I'm going to send some help

what's your name

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foreign

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April 26 2010 that's a day that we

adopted in Italian

by the time we get to the end of 2012

we've been living with a sociopath

trying to kill us every day

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we don't know who she is we don't know

how old she is she won't admit who she

is she won't tell us the truth of who

she is

doctors have told us jeez

she's nowhere near the age you were told

and we've actually filed our motion at

Marion County court for her case to be

heard to have her age corrected to

something more appropriate

the judge had a petition prepared by an

attorney that would lay out the

arguments for why this person is not a

they believe she is actually an adult

nobody knows quite what what age but she

has not grown in four years so the judge

came up with his own little formula well

you stopped growing at 18 if she hasn't

grown in four years then she's at least

18 when she entered their lives and I'm

gonna add four years he said

I find you 22.

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at the time that she was re-aged I knew

she was adult did I know it was 18 22 35

no

raging Is Not Unusual it does happen in

international adoptions

well yours might be shaved off the age

of the child because

more attractive to adoptive families the

younger the child is and at least

that belief

so

oh I can buy a couple of years right

like she's not really eight she's 10 or

11 or something

but to jump 14 years to 22. it doesn't

make sense

at the time of the re-aging there was

good solid documentation

an approximate age and she had a primary

care physician that looked at all of it

and wrote provided evidence so that

doctor was looking at lots of other

doctors

information and coming up with the

determination

and then at that point when it's such a

huge

amount of years

you just have to say what makes the most

sense based upon the evidence and

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that it's in the best interest of the

child to change their age

you know I'm not the doctor and I'm not

the judge but I felt like it was based

on something credible

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to give her a new birth certificate with

a new birth date they gave her a new

Indiana ID she had everything changes

from a year of birth of 2003.

back it up 14 years to 1989

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while I was at the hospital

they signed paperwork and got me re-aged

so please tell me about that I don't

even know what to say about it guys I

don't know what happened yeah just come

tell me what you know I just know that I

got out of the hospital

and she got me of an apartment

the barnetts were were very concerned

about having her back in their home

Christine wants to make sure she's got a

good place to live

So Christine and her go out the next day

and they find her an apartment in

Westfield

Westfield Indiana is in Hamilton County

Indiana Hamilton County Indiana is the

richest part of the states

it's a single floor apartment complex

she's got a living room

she's got a dining room she's got a

little eat-in kitchen

sign the lease they paid the first three

months up front

moving day into Natalia's apartment and

I know we gave Natalia some furniture

out of our home

we got groceries for her

and it was just it's pretty basic stuff

there's not a lot of tail that's hell

there

I think that

um Christine didn't know what to do with

Natalia

so why not put her in an apartment and

say she's 22.

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I'm Sue McCollum and I was a neighbor to

Natalia when we lived in the Westfield

Apartments

okay

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I just met her by accident one day I see

her mom sitting out all her grocery

sacks on the sidewalk and I thought

backwards to me and I thought my gosh

that poor little girl from carrying

those groceries in so I went up there I

was going to the mailbox and I said well

honey do you need some help and I said

where's your mom and she turned around

she said

I'm 22. I expect her to have you know

young but she's not she was her adult

you could tell by looking at her and

well her mom had a Cadillac and she was

sitting in her Cadillac well I was

helping her carry the groceries in

because she just left them on the

sidewalk and left them and just sat

there and watched us carried in and she

didn't even roll down the window and say

thanks for helping her or nothing

nothing she just sit there and looked

and then

took off

I thought it was rude because Natalia

couldn't

hardly open the darn front door you know

work the can get in

so I took him in and carried him into

the kitchen Fort and so you know I took

her to the grocery store a couple times

and

he was also on food stamps she had a

food stamp card when I take her to the

grocery store

and I thought well if you can drive a

Cadillac why can't you take better care

of her

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my name is Melanie

my husband and I were both Italians

Neighbors in Westfield Indiana

the first time I met Natalia I think it

was just my wife and I were planning

some flowers

she just came running across the street

and you know I remember my wife and I

looked

at what's going on here and at first it

stressed me out because I thought she

was just a little kid crossing the

street and then she came over and

started talking to us

and

you know definitely wasn't a child

um

it was super nice

expressed herself well and yeah just was

being friendly with us she introduced

herself she sits right now starts up a

conversation like we've been friends for

years

and that didn't bother me

at the time

at the time

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my name is Andrew rice I'm an auto

mechanic ASE Master Certified mechanic

I used to live on Catherine Drive in

Westfield Indiana

today my grandson was in the driveway

playing

was about 60 degrees out

and my wife went in the house for just a

moment and I followed her in and then

when I looked out the window there was a

little person walking up our into our

yard up toward our garage and she

started talking to my grandson and they

started playing in the driveway they

were riding the electric motorcycle up

and down the driveway and having races

mark

get set go

go go go go

my first impression of Natalia was that

she was a little person I didn't

necessarily think she was a child at

first

and as we got to speak with her she

actually admitted that she was 26 years

old at that point and she told us that

she lived in the apartments down the

street which were only

two three houses down across the street

but as the sun started to set it started

to cool down a little bit and

tell you didn't have a jacket on that

day and we were jacking it up because it

started getting

together

it also seemed like she hadn't done some

of the basic hygienic things that most

people would normally do her hair was a

little bit dirty and there was

for a lack of a better word an

unpleasant body odor

um that she married

she wasn't very clean person she she had

her body odor and she wore the same

clothes for days and days before

change in her shoes were all worn and

scuffed up but

part of it was the way she had to walk

and you know they should have bought her

more shoes or something

I remember distinctly looking at her and

be like

you know after

seeing wondered

she'd take her clothes off to wash

to wash can she put clean clothes on

herself

how many days in a row she worn that

does she only

easier to help her I remember thinking

that

I never saw her mom or her brothers come

visit Natalia the only person that I saw

ever come over there was her adopted dad

I always follow him from a distance

I noticed because I think he drove a

sports car so I wasn't it was a car that

I had

a scene come through but it wasn't often

and it doesn't seem like he was there a

long time

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I only saw him the one time on accident

drive up and get out and we were right

kind of where the trash can was and she

says that's my dad I gotta go and I just

went that's your dad in that car and

then you're making you live here

my husband and I were both

you know he had the concern about her

being once safe being

being you know smaller stature and

living by herself

just

wanting to make sure she was okay

are we pick up on that either she was

five or fifty she needed somebody to

help her take care of herself

some of Natalya's neighbors were worried

for her well-being so they contacted the

department of children's services so DCS

starts an investigation

Heather Wilson had investigated Natalya

as a child in the Barnett home in 2012

before she's been re-aged

fast forward

almost a year

and Natalia is now living in an

apartment by herself and Heather Wilson

has brought back into the picture

22 years old and Heather Wilson may

maybe she wasn't convinced that Natalia

was an adult and so

he was going to do what she could

sure they

Asians are all neglect once and

substantiated and make sure her basic

needs are being met

once Michael and Christine learned that

Heather Wilson is back in the picture

it was war against Hamilton County

hello

where were you when I came over

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here

in this in the apartment complex area

yeah I drove all through here I didn't

see you

could you have been walking in the

sidewalk if I drove through here and

didn't see you

yeah like right over there yeah yeah

drove over there

Heather what's your time

what'd you guys talk about

it

oh have you got another report on you

yeah

and another talk about what she's trying

to do

that I featured

well

um Heather told us you told her that we

only bring you food every two months

and I showed her all the receipt for all

the food I bring over makes you know you

were lying about that

um

they were going to

they're going to try and do stuff

we showed everything to our lawyer and

our lawyer said that they can't do

anything they're not even supposed to

come over here

so whatever Heather was trying with you

didn't work

it appears that Michael and Christine

only started buying groceries for

Natalya after the department of

children's services reopened their

investigation

shut up

theater

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well they said April 23rd between

started

so when they come from

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sure

in the office

lights to bring you Donuts

oh you never tell me the truth

her parents they didn't come around the

law they her dad would come more than

the mother and I don't know why and I

don't even remember what her dad looks

like I only seen him one time

you better talk about

um we talked about this

um

went crazy

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this handwritten letter Natalia is

recanting all of these things she had

said about Christine in the past

I made them up to make my mom and dad

look really bad is it possible that this

is actually dictated by Christine so

that DCS would get off her back

yeah but you're in a beautiful woman and

Natalia came and talia's hair was all

wet and cut as if the mom had cleaned

her up cut her hair and she had

different clothes on I didn't know it

was the mom at the time because I never

saw the model I always saw the dad and

the mom said tell this lady you're sorry

and everything you told her was a lie

and Natalia was standing even worse than

usual

and

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it was a lie and I was going well what

do you mean what's going on

the mom didn't say I'm her mother

Natalia said this is my mom

well at least everybody

everything

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all the text messages to her right

and I can't talk to her

Michael wiped the contacts out on

Natalia's phone including Heather

Wilson's contact information at DCS

was specifically because he did not want

her to be able to call Heather Wilson

Michael had something to hide he did not

want her reporting Social Services

something about them because why not let

her talk to them she needs help why not

let her get some help what is he hiding

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have him Natalia live by you well at

first it was okay

and then she started sitting on our

doorsteps waiting for us to come home

and uh then she followed us in the house

in my house the few times she was there

she'd walk through and look at things

and pick things up and look at it and

just like she was chasing their joint

it was always in the back your mind is

she gonna be around is she watching is

she coming over like you know even when

we would leave

her window

s you're watching can I leave because I

gotta go somewhere I don't want to get

trapped in a conversation

talk to her I just had to kind of

enforce boundaries a little bit more

because

if not the minute we got home she would

come over or she would call me

constantly

who will people come when they come home

when they left and she was really a

pissed at everybody

shouldn't call and text me a lot but she

was fine I mean I I just think she was

very lonely over there and didn't have a

lot of people around her

thirty percent of our phone number so if

they need anything they know they can

call us they know they can pop over ask

us for something they need help

let's try I mean it's the midwestern

thing let's be a good neighbor and uh

you know if you're a good neighbor

they're going to be a good neighbor well

I'll help each other out

I'm gonna vibe

that was quickly taken advantage of

the sense that

that Italian would call

home

would be like a soccer game for our son

and she would call two three times

a point where like hey you gotta stop

stop calling us please sorry I just had

to tell her you know I wasn't offended

it was just more like you know Natalia

like we're busy like

I'm I'm trying to enjoy my son's soccer

game so

um I need you not to call me and I'll

call you when I get home you know but as

soon as we got home she saw

our carpool in the driveway she would

shoot right across the street and try to

you know before we had time to

decompress anything like that um

pretty quick to want anything

to know where when we were going to be

home

all times

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nobody liked her nobody they kind of

felt sorry for that they were leery

about her and really didn't want her

around and everybody was complaining all

the time about her car in the office and

saying

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waiting on your doorstep and just really

eerie they said we know we're watching

her but we have to take certain steps to

evict somebody and we're taking the

process I said well good

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creeped out by her this sounds so

terrible but anytime there was like a

sighting of her it's like someone came

to me and said let's follow her today

and this is what she was doing like she

was like the chocolate

I come home one day and after you was in

the house

I've had my refrigerator door open

getting a Coke and chips and just

looking around and I said you don't need

to be back here you go back up front

and up after that

I started locking my doors

my neighbor said she'd come at her house

one time I think and she didn't like it

either so she started robbing her screen

door so she couldn't get in

he's always hungry a winning food

Sly Fox because she could con you in in

just her way

and everybody dreaded it

scary

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Westfield 9-1-1 what's your emergency

I've been stalking one of my neighbors I

want to hurt them

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I'm afraid of what might happen if

someone doesn't help me

I'm going to send some help

while living at the Union Street

Apartments Natalia calls the police on

herself

to tell them that she'd been stalking a

neighbor and she had thoughts of wanting

wanting from others

Natalia Barnett

I'm aware that Natalya contacted 9-1-1 a

couple of times while she was living in

that apartment

until the officers that she was a was

attempting to burn down her apartment

complex using her microwave trying to

start a fire in her microwave

please hurry

right after that she was always active

really strange

one day we got to talk and I said why

aren't you living with your mom and dad

she goes oh they're afraid of me I said

why she says because I took a knife to

him one night you know and she just had

this strange look in her eye like

it's a normal thing

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it wasn't

it wasn't until she started talking to

me more in depth about the history with

her family and she said well I tried to

kill my mom and I just was at her more

questions

to happen

try to do that

I stood over them with a

took all the knives away

and I tried to poison them so I had to

live in the garage for a while

a serial killers

so casually they put attempted murder

into a conversation

like

so long you know oh well oh gee I pulled

a knife on my parents big deal you know

that's the attitude you got from her

this is coming what what do we do with

this information we're not social

workers we're not therapists like

like why would you tell me that

and how do you expect me to handle this

information

you know it was it was hard for us to

understand how she

was just left and now apartment by

herself

just freely offered up that she

she tried to kill her mom you know like

that's weird

but then I also think if I had somebody

in my home that I thought was

a threat to

my other kids

you know what would I do

again if I thought she was a child that

couldn't take care of herself this would

be a different conversation

but I at what point do I start worrying

about

this person

it's like a bad breakup like if I break

up with you

are you gonna go crazy

if I help and then

I'll be gonna be standing over my bed at

the end of the night

you know with a knife

Department of Children Services spent

weeks investigating Natalia at Union

Street Apartments but DCS investigation

can't really go very far because

that is solid legal ground

the judge you know who signed the order

that she's 22. she's an adult so the

Department of Children Services have no

jurisdiction over this so Michael and

Christine Barnett didn't not have to

worry about social services anymore

still she was an adult person you could

just tell she wasn't a little 11 year

old girl that they left here or wherever

she had to be 25.

and um you know

she had some

breasts and stuff you know she wore

undergarments that adults would probably

wear and she had a brawn

and you can see the straps of that

spoke very fluently she doesn't talk

like an eight-year-old she talked like a

I don't know

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she would come into my office and go

the candy because it was like a candy

bowl and

um just sit and talk to me and

I would

are you

know it's kind of shrunk their shoulder

or something I don't know

he has been a child

because that is something

child will do

an office that you know you know me

every day once you become friends

their house I feel like a lot of the

things that she did were very childlike

she did show characteristics of a

youngster when she was playing with my

grandson who

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had to Die four years old

she seemed like a child having a great

time playing with a playmate

and when she'd interact with us she

seemed like an adult

I said well maybe you know she has a

easier time connecting with children

because they're easier to talk to a lot

of times less judgmental and so maybe it

was just easier

you know everybody was leery about her

uneasy and she even talked about her

brothers saying that the parents didn't

trust her around the boys and she goes

well I said why not and she goes well

you know why

I said was you doing things you

shouldn't she goes well probably

so you know just like c'est la vie

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a weird too she would want to know when

our son would be home and not our

daughter but our son I don't really

remember her having interactions with

her daughter

that's when things

went from uncomfortable to weird and

almost borderline inappropriate so she

would come across the street when he was

waiting for the bus

where he would be out there by himself

waiting for the bus and he was an eight

or nine nine years old at the time so

old not to be out there by himself but

um

you know we just got to be a point where

we felt uncomfortable as parents

um

but again not knowing how to handle the

situation with somebody like

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me if you didn't keep your screen door

locked she'd walked in because one day I

come home

my grandson and his friend was playing

Xbox

and I walked in I said what's going on

and he said she got a hanging around too

close to their chairs

they're rubbing up and you know leaning

on and stuff

it made my grandson feel uncomfortable

so he told Natalya get out of here

just land the door of her face

I thought how dare you try to

do anything to my grandson I thought oh

I just wanted to go after

and I told my grandson I said don't ever

let her in here especially if I'm not

home

the lady from the apartment complex said

just she knew we had smaller kids so

just to be careful she came over and and

very serious was warning us about some

things

and just that we need to be careful with

our kids

and uh

I think it bordered on almost like you

need to not have her over to your house

which I mean

I appreciate

being warned if there's a situation

but at the same time we can take that

information and make our own judgments

and make our own decisions for our

family

one day we heard the door open and our

dog just started going crazy

and we kind of like ran out front to the

living room area where the front door

was and Natalia was there

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we got upset

upset came into our house without

permission

started going towards our son's bedroom

which was in the back of the house

luckily we had uh

truet was small but Fierce and uh she

was very scared of the Chihuahua

yeah

and that's when we started to

distance ourselves from saying you know

sorry Natalia we're not going to be home

for a while or wait we're really busy we

got a lot of things to do

as we probably should we should have but

again not knowing her mental level not

knowing how she could handle rejection

things like that

you know I remember my wife and I having

conversations about it like how do we

let her down because this is getting too

much it's too much

is that going to be the point where she

snaps

well nobody levered their kids out about

a around her and everything after they

heard about what she tried with the

neighbors little boy

it was just like you had to everybody

had to watch out for this person one

person that was taken over everything

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live by you is like a Hitchcock movie

even you got so you hated to go out your

door because you didn't know if she's

going to be out there waiting on you

or if you'd walk out the mailbox here

she is

she would start walking

going on in the house that's getting

like a birds and eating their food

and then we have a landscaping crew

and she would like hide behind the

bushes

and kind of pop out at them and put

scares on

she seemed to hang around all the older

real old guys a lot

she was trying sexual or talking sexual

things to him Fred was in there doing

his laundry

and she walked in and he just thought

she was coming in there to be friendly

or something because she couldn't reach

the coins didn't do her own laundry of

course

and I guess she started talking you know

sexual and

crude things to him and tried to ease up

to him and stuff

he said I was so uneasy and uptight with

her I just wanted to get out of there I

almost left my clothes

he said I finally got away from her and

he said I never want to be in that

laundry room again it was her

you could believe this man if you knew

this man she

uh what is the word she offered him sex

and he said get away from me

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I'll tell you when the front and there

was an older guy up there

there for two or three hours at a time

and she went to his house a lot

she said that she was living in a house

of prostitution downtown and that she

saw prostitutes and she did prostitution

before she came here somewhere in

Indianapolis I

fever because that's how she talked in

circles

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one day well I seen the little boy

rolling around in the grass and

everything and I said well I'm going in

and she said okay so she went down to

the neighbor's house

you know how you roll down a hill

they were laying an Italian him or

laying rolling back and forth

and then the next thing I know she was

close to the little boy

and Natalia reached over it started

undoing his pants and I said Natalia

what are you doing

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and that's when the dad comes the door

and grabbed up his son and was yelling

at her

and she said if she ever touched my son

again you know he was just the dad

enraged and she took off and went up

front doing that with that little boy in

front of us

God knows what she does you know behind

closed doors it's so simple

foreign

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store and playing with the children

yes

do you remember harming any one of their

children you know

I never did that

there had been so

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Vere disturbing neighbors and whatnot

and they had said that she was playing

with these kids and that was just kind

of weird that you know an adult would be

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little kids like the way that she was

like rolling around

one person so that it looked like she

was being appropriate

I was touching them

as a rule

technically like if we get three

complaints or more we have the ability

to reduce someone

she lives there for a year

oh and then her lease is up the

apartment complex is not going to renew

the lease

So Christine goes apartment hunting with

Natalya chills in Lafayette Indiana

we know a little bit about the time we

went to college there she

should Purdue so we know a bit about the

time

Christine finds an apartment for her

very recently before that within weeks

we had found out we were going to be

moving to Canada to support son's

education

the perimeter Institute in Waterloo

Ontario Canada

Jacob who's 14

you go there for a year to do his

Masters

but

that it was going to be to be a very

very bad

this year of marriage

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Natalya had been the subject of so many

reports whether it was Adult Protective

Services child protective services the

Westfield police the

barnetts were fed up with it they needed

her out of that County but what happened

in Lafayette is beginning of the end for

the barnetts

did you agree to go to Lafayette

no I didn't know where we were going she

just took me

no he takes his turkey to Lafayette yes

and then what happened when you went to

Lafayette uh we went and looked at an

apartment

and you want to stay in that apartment

I didn't but Christine told me that

that's where I was going to be living

but he didn't want to live there no

Westville did you want to live there

no

she just got it for me

or where do you want to live

I wanted to live with Christine

I wanted to be with

a family I wonder when I was my family

with Christine

because I didn't know what to do like

I didn't know at all what to do I didn't

know how to take care of myself I didn't

know how to be by myself

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I got her out

so everybody was so relieved I thought

everybody was really happy to see her go

so one night just like overnight Natalia

was gone

we didn't sphere and

I

tried to call her phone and her phone

was disconnected

we had no idea what happened in Italian

but it was just like she was just gone

let me tell you I don't know where she

went after this I don't know anything

right

I think she's a little possessed she is

that's all you can really say

she presents herself

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she said was true

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so we started

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the time

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