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Previously
onDead City...
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The man who's got Hershel,
they call him the Croat.
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- Who is worth following here?
- His name is Negan.
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I knew that
he was a rabid dog
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that needed to be put down.
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Blew off his ear. The
rest of him got away.
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So he's gonna wanna kill you.
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If you wanna
get to the Croat,
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you just gotta get through that.
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He and the
Croat know each other.
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They go back. He can bait him.
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Lure him out of the arena.
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Then we kill him.
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Hey, Neegs?
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Um...
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We got a problem.
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I told him
to kibosh that shit.
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Said you gave the order, but
you know he don't listen to me.
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I mean, you know, I'm not
gonna say I told you so.
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I'm not that kind of guy, but
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certain folks, a lot of folks
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are saying it's time
to rein his ass in.
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Invest more authority in, you
know, someone not unlike...
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We did it.
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Negan, we did it.
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The girl, she confessed.
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She was sent by the
King, exactly like we...
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He said to let her walk!
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He gave a direct order.
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Negan, you know, these things...
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my process, it takes time.
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Your process?
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Yes, Simon, my process.
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Who determined the location
of the hidden arms cache
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at the Hilltop?
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I would've
found that shit.
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Oh, really? Your
keen sense of observation.
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Your emotional intelligence.
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Emoti-blah, blah, blah,
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this is what I'm
talking about, Negan.
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Usin' these highfalutin words
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to cover up what we all
know you really are.
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A Slavic, psychopathic nutjob.
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Oh my god, I refuse
to participate
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in these childish conversations.
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Kids...
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KIDS
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is a line we do not cross.
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We all know that.
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Enough.
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Buraz, I know you understand.
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We had to be sure.
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I looked everywhere.
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- What's that mean?
- It means I looked everywhere.
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So what? He took off?
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Passed him on my
way in last night.
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Anybody outside last night
maybe see Luther head out?
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Still no Luther?
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Where would he go?
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Not saying he went anywhere.
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Just... trying to figure it out.
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Well, it's a little hard
to picture a guy like that
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playing hide-and-seek.
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All I know is he wasn't
real keen on this plan.
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Yeah, it's true. He
didn't want no part in this.
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How long we gonna wait?
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Every hour's more
time for the psycho
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to figure out we're comin'.
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Hey, hey, come on. Luther's
his own guy, right?
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He can do what he wants.
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Tell you what.
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Time he gets back and
sees the shit we pulled,
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his thankful ass gonna be
kissin' your butt ugly feet.
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Oh yeah?
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We're good.
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'Kay.
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Nah, it's cool. It's,
uh... it's gettin' better.
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- You ready?
- Yeah.
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You know what? Honestly...
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No, I'm not.
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And no, it's not 'cause
he wants me dead.
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Hell, lots of people
have wanted me dead.
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It's hard to explain,
you know? It's...
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The closer we get
to the Croat...
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it just starts to feel a
bit too goddamn familiar.
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Like, if he starts talkin',
it won't be him at all.
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It's gonna be the
echo of some song
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that I don't wanna hear no more.
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What is it?
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When Hershel was a baby,
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like four or five months old,
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there was this guy,
Amos, living above us.
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And Hershel was having
trouble sleeping, and...
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Amos decided it was a good
time to learn the harmonica.
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I asked him very nicely if he
could stop practicing at night.
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And, uh, he said that he would.
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Come that night,
he did it again.
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So the next time he was out
on a hunting expedition,
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I snuck into his room and
I stole the harmonica,
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and I went and buried it
in the fucking ground.
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Well...
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I bet you lost a couple
Girl Scout badges for that.
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Yeah, but I'm sure you would've
buried it somewhere way worse.
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Have you, uh...
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You seen my matches?
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No.
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It's methane.
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From the sewers.
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It's not him.
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We'll wait here a beat so the
psycho won't sniff us out.
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Should give you enough
time to jack a car
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while Negan baits the
Croat down to the garage.
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You both hightail
it out of here,
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lure him halfway
across the city.
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Get him alone.
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That's when we
start skull-bashing
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and throat-cutting the Burazi.
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You get your kid.
We kill the psycho.
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Everybody wins a prize.
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How do we know if shit
goes sideways for you?
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You don't.
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Don't screw it up.
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Figured out how to bait him yet?
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Yeah, I got a thought or two.
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I feel good about this.
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It's gonna work, Maggie.
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We're gonna get your boy back.
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I have to tell you something.
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I can explain.
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You've done enough explaining.
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Don't act like you've
never did something
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you needed to explain.
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We don't have time for this.
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You understand
how to operate it?
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You sure?
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Eject the disc...
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and you press the button.
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Like so.
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You seem nervous.
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Are you afraid of me?
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No. Of course not.
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You are.
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You know, I still recall
the day you joined us.
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You were hiding
in a fire station
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with a group of barbarians.
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But you...
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you were smart.
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You laid down your weapon.
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It has been a joy over
these past few years
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watching you blossom into this
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strong, faithful...
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confident protector.
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You have made me so proud.
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You should have no reason...
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to ever be afraid of me!
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Okay?
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Okay.
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Did you hear that?
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Negan?
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Ginny!
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Ginny!
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Ginny!
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Negan!
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Negan!
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Ginny!
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Wait!
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They're not here.
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Let's go!
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There's too many!
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Follow me!
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Let's go!
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You comin'?
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I'll catch up.
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Hey, stay.
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Amaia!
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Tommaso!
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Tommaso!
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No!
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Tommaso!
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No!
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We have a guest.
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Search.
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Amaia!
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Let's go!
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Lock it with the chain.
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Negan!
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Hey!
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Grab these!
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Fall in! Get tight!
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Go.
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Go!
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Ready?
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Stay
tight, stay tight.
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Hey! No!
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No! No!
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This way! We're almost there.
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Come on!
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This way! Come on!
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Come on!
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Come on! Come on!
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- This?
- Nope.
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Come on!
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Heh.
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Nothing to be afraid of!
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You're safe, Negan.
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It's only me.
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Negan!
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My brother!
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Buraz!
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Oh, I see you have
their weapon of choice.
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Truce.
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No?
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You know...
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I heard what happened
at that bank.
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It sounded like your handiwork.
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You assumed I wanted revenge.
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Tit for tat.
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So you found common cause
with your new friends.
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You blew off my ear!
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So what? I have another!
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Where is Lucille?
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She's gone.
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She broken?
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One too many hits
to the heads, eh?
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No, I...
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I understand.
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I saw Jerome on the mainland.
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He told me about the
war with the Hilltop,
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the Kingdom...
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Alexandria.
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I should have been there.
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I can only imagine the
damage Simon caused.
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He never listened...
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never really listened to you.
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It's okay.
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It's okay you lost
the Sanctuary,
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'cause I have built a new one.
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And we'll keep going.
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We'll build something
bigger, stronger!
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The whole island will
become our sanctuary,
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fueled by the death
in its bowels.
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Okay!
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Business first, then pleasure.
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I know who you want.
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He's here with me, right now.
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Let me see him.
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Of course!
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Yes, yes, of course.
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You recognize him, no?
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He's the marshal
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who has been pursuing
you so doggedly.
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I am here for the kid. Hershel.
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Yes, that's
right, the marshal told me.
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He told me.
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So...
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You're still helping the widow.
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What did she promise you?
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What will you get for him?
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Just... give me the kid.
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This will be difficult.
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This will require
a conversation.
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Come to me.
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Come, come, come, come.
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Come, we'll discuss.
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You don't trust me yet.
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I understand.
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I will make a gesture
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to show you that I come only
in the spirit of friendship...
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and brotherly love.
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Negan,
what are you doing?
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Aah!
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Go, go!
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Aah!
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It's too heavy!
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No, we can do it, go!
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Push together. Go!
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It's good, it's
good. It's good.
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The sewers.
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We can get out
through the sewers.
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Let's go!
281
00:37:40,388 --> 00:37:41,519
What's this?
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00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:51,703
I told you, it's too dangerous.
283
00:37:51,834 --> 00:37:53,725
All the dead are down there,
and the air, we can't breathe...
284
00:37:53,749 --> 00:37:55,577
Amaia, what other
options we got?
285
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:57,187
We got to.
286
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:02,584
Come on.
287
00:38:25,694 --> 00:38:27,522
All right, man...
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00:38:27,652 --> 00:38:29,413
I think we bought ourselves
a little bit of time,
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00:38:29,437 --> 00:38:30,655
to figure out what the hell...
290
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Code 14, Section 2.
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Intentional killing shall be
defined as first degree murder
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and shall be punishable by
supplementary execution.
293
00:38:40,796 --> 00:38:43,799
Times five.
294
00:38:43,929 --> 00:38:45,931
You're a dick.
295
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Let's go.
296
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Woman: I just can't
figure it out.
297
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The Burazi.
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00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,655
They knew.
299
00:40:40,785 --> 00:40:43,353
Anyone see what
happened to Negan?
300
00:40:43,484 --> 00:40:46,356
He's got the whole
island locked down.
301
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Where is he?
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The Croat: I will find him.
303
00:40:54,973 --> 00:40:57,498
There is no way they're
getting off this island.
304
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I'm Eli Jorné, EP and
showrunner of "Dead City,"
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00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:13,862
and this is episode four,
"Everybody Wins a Prize."
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You get your kid.
We kill the psycho.
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Everybody wins a prize.
308
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,824
I like that as a
title for the episode
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00:41:19,955 --> 00:41:23,654
because there's a kind of,
like, tragic irony to it.
310
00:41:23,785 --> 00:41:25,785
As soon as I decided that
The Croat was going to be
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00:41:25,830 --> 00:41:27,615
holed up in this
arena, I was like,
312
00:41:27,745 --> 00:41:29,506
Well, we got to fill it up
with walkers, obviously,
313
00:41:29,530 --> 00:41:31,401
and there has to
be a giant battle.
314
00:41:31,532 --> 00:41:33,055
I was excited for
that whole sequence.
315
00:41:33,185 --> 00:41:38,147
I knew it was going to be
epic and I'm so blown away.
316
00:41:38,277 --> 00:41:41,106
The director, Kevin Dowling,
just did an incredible job.
317
00:41:41,237 --> 00:41:42,891
Everybody involved
did such a great job.
318
00:41:43,021 --> 00:41:45,763
And I think he did it in
like just a couple of days.
319
00:41:45,894 --> 00:41:48,070
So many shots, so
much you got to cover.
320
00:41:52,291 --> 00:41:54,903
It's not just about seeing
the violence and the fighting.
321
00:41:55,033 --> 00:41:56,837
It's also about catching
those really important
322
00:41:56,861 --> 00:41:58,839
emotional moments of, you
know, when Tommaso and Amaia
323
00:41:58,863 --> 00:42:00,778
see each other across the arena
324
00:42:00,909 --> 00:42:03,738
and you see, you know,
the love in their eyes,
325
00:42:03,868 --> 00:42:06,218
the longing, the
fear, and you realize,
326
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:07,742
like, these people have so much
327
00:42:07,872 --> 00:42:09,700
to lose as they watch
each other, you know,
328
00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:12,181
get swallowed up
by mobs of walkers.
329
00:42:12,311 --> 00:42:14,270
No!
330
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,620
So there's this crucial
moment where Maggie,
331
00:42:16,751 --> 00:42:18,317
she sees a way out
332
00:42:18,448 --> 00:42:20,537
and then she stops with
this sort of sixth sense,
333
00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:23,714
and she turns, and there's
Ginny inside the octagon,
334
00:42:23,845 --> 00:42:25,368
safe but trapped,
335
00:42:25,498 --> 00:42:27,215
and she has a moment there
where she has to decide,
336
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,782
am I going to keep going
or am I going to turn back?
337
00:42:28,806 --> 00:42:30,678
And I like to think
of that moment
338
00:42:30,808 --> 00:42:32,168
as connected to
this earlier moment
339
00:42:32,244 --> 00:42:35,900
when Maggie finds
the tin of beeswax.
340
00:42:38,337 --> 00:42:41,776
Don't act like you never did
something you needed to explain.
341
00:42:41,906 --> 00:42:44,082
He basically says, "We're
not that different.
342
00:42:44,213 --> 00:42:45,867
Don't pretend that
you're better than me."
343
00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:48,347
I think, on some level, it's
a combination for her of
344
00:42:48,478 --> 00:42:50,349
when she's staring
at that little girl,
345
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,047
she can't leave her behind,
346
00:42:52,177 --> 00:42:54,745
but also her needing to not
be the person that Negan is,
347
00:42:54,876 --> 00:42:57,487
to not be at his level,
to be better than that.
348
00:42:57,618 --> 00:42:59,576
So episode four opens
with a flashback
349
00:42:59,707 --> 00:43:01,404
of Negan and The Croat.
350
00:43:01,534 --> 00:43:03,815
Hopefully everybody gets a
kick out of seeing Simon again.
351
00:43:03,841 --> 00:43:05,060
I sure did.
352
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:08,019
Um...
353
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:09,586
We got a problem.
354
00:43:09,717 --> 00:43:11,849
When the actor
Steven Ogg showed up,
355
00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:13,764
he and Jeffrey were,
like, cracking jokes
356
00:43:13,895 --> 00:43:16,767
and having the time of their
lives like two little kids.
357
00:43:16,898 --> 00:43:19,509
And it's a scene where we really
get to see that experience
358
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,487
of what that felt like for
Negan to walk into this room
359
00:43:21,511 --> 00:43:23,948
and see this young girl
the same age as Ginny,
360
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:25,665
maybe, that The Croat
has tortured to death,
361
00:43:25,689 --> 00:43:28,474
and he doesn't even
see what he's done.
362
00:43:28,605 --> 00:43:31,695
And it's really hard and
painful for Negan to witness.
363
00:43:31,826 --> 00:43:33,566
And then, we kind of
come out in the present
364
00:43:33,697 --> 00:43:35,697
and we realize this isn't
just a generic flashback.
365
00:43:35,786 --> 00:43:37,266
This is what's on Negan's mind.
366
00:43:37,396 --> 00:43:40,617
The closer we get to The Croat,
367
00:43:40,748 --> 00:43:43,029
it just starts to feel a bit
too damn familiar.
368
00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:45,535
I know it maybe sounds odd
to say, thinking of the fact
369
00:43:45,666 --> 00:43:47,208
that The Croat is
probably older than Negan,
370
00:43:47,232 --> 00:43:50,148
but in some ways, The
Croat was his first child.
371
00:43:50,279 --> 00:43:52,237
He taught him how to bounce back
372
00:43:52,368 --> 00:43:55,023
from the tragedy of
the loss of his family
373
00:43:55,153 --> 00:43:57,895
and how to survive in
this threatening world.
374
00:43:59,767 --> 00:44:02,465
Negan!
375
00:44:04,685 --> 00:44:06,382
My brother!
376
00:44:06,512 --> 00:44:08,993
The Croat is so
excited to see Negan,
377
00:44:09,124 --> 00:44:10,804
and he kind of wants
to show off this world
378
00:44:10,865 --> 00:44:12,867
that he's built, you
know, in a kind of like,
379
00:44:12,997 --> 00:44:14,738
"Look, Dad, look
what you showed me
380
00:44:14,869 --> 00:44:16,000
and look what I built."
381
00:44:16,131 --> 00:44:20,004
I have built a new world.
382
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:24,661
The whole island will
become our Sanctuary.
383
00:44:24,792 --> 00:44:27,882
I think the most fun thing
to watch as a producer on set
384
00:44:28,012 --> 00:44:32,147
was when they threw Armstrong
over the edge of the catwalk.
385
00:44:32,277 --> 00:44:35,454
Aah! Aah!
386
00:44:35,585 --> 00:44:38,153
Jorné: Oh, man, that
catwalk, that was scary.
387
00:44:38,283 --> 00:44:39,894
I have a terrible
fear of heights.
388
00:44:40,024 --> 00:44:43,114
And in pre-production,
we went to go,
389
00:44:43,245 --> 00:44:46,683
you know, like scout the
catwalk above the arena.
390
00:44:46,814 --> 00:44:48,729
Even before we were
like out on the catwalk,
391
00:44:48,859 --> 00:44:50,948
I just started shaking
and I couldn't move.
392
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:52,384
And I had to stop
and turn around
393
00:44:52,515 --> 00:44:54,082
and I never went up there again.
394
00:44:55,561 --> 00:44:57,781
The Croat: Negan,
what are you doing?
395
00:44:59,565 --> 00:45:01,698
Jorné: The moment where
Negan saves Armstrong's life
396
00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:03,545
was something that I always
knew was going to happen.
397
00:45:03,569 --> 00:45:07,312
And that was inspired by the
story from "Les Misérables."
398
00:45:07,443 --> 00:45:09,314
But I think that's a
big moment for Armstrong
399
00:45:09,445 --> 00:45:14,015
that the man who he's been
chasing down to hang him
400
00:45:14,145 --> 00:45:16,234
just saved his life.
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