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(Male announcer) In the
criminal justice system,
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sexually based offenses are
considered especially heinous.
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In New York City, the dedicated detectives
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who investigate these vicious felonies
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are members of an elite squad
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known as the Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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Tonight on America's Worst Crimes...
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We've heard these stories before.
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A vicious rape on campus,
an unresponsive university.
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And yet, the details
of this particular story
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are even more horrifying than usual.
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Just steps away from the hectic heart
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of New York City stands Hudson University,
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a venerable institution of higher learning.
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A sanctuary of the mind.
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For a freshman... we'll call her Jane...
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away from her small Midwestern
hometown for the first time,
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New York City and Hudson
were a dream come true.
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But Jane's dream was about
to turn into a nightmare.
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It started out innocently enough.
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Bill was a popular athlete
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who seemed like real boyfriend material.
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- I thought he was one of the good guys.
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But you were wrong.
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About everything.
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- _
- (Skip) They went back to his room
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in one of the most popular
fraternities on campus.
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What started as a romantic moment
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quickly took a terrifying turn.
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Jane suddenly found herself outnumbered
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by four men twice her size,
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all with malicious intentions.
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I could not believe he'd do this to me.
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(Skip) But he did, didn't he?
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He set the whole attack up.
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And he gave his three friends permission
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to do whatever they wanted?
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(Jane) At some point I just went numb.
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(Skip) She was viciously
gang-raped for hours.
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Her anguished cries for
help went unanswered.
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No! No!
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I could tell I wasn't even human to them.
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They took turns raping you.
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Yes.
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Sodomizing you.
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Yes.
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When they were done, they...
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Okay, Noah, just to be clear,
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you are not going to Hudson University.
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No, no. What do you want?
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(Skip) I know this is difficult.
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Here you go, sweetie.
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They called me a whore.
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They called me a slut.
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They shoved me out of the
door like I was garbage.
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Did you call the police or campus security?
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When I was up to it, I went to the school.
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They asked me if I had been drinking,
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if anyone could corroborate.
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- [Phone rings]
- Milk?
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(Jane) They made me feel like
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I'd made a bad decision that
night, and it was my fault.
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Chief dodds.
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America's Worst Crimes?
I'm actually just watching it.
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Uh, no, I-I hadn't heard about it.
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[Mutes TV] The mayor's wife was watching?
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Well, that's just terrific.
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Yup.
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We're on it.
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But for Jane, her ordeal
had only just begun.
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More from this nightmare
on campus when we return.
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[Sighs]
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[Dramatic music]
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- Synced and corrected by martythecrazy -
- www.addic7ed.com -
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But for Jane, her ordeal
had only just begun.
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More from this... [Mutes TV]
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[Groans]
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This is what you do with your Sundays off?
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Me and Gracie mansion, apparently.
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And now, 1pp is pissed
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because they got caught
flat-footed on national TV.
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America's Worst Crimes
has a huge following.
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- This is gonna go viral.
- (Carisi) Yeah, I looked into it.
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The report says the attack
happened in December,
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but NYPD's got no record of a complaint
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from the Vic or Hudson U.
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She did say that Hudson
University ignored her.
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And God knows we've been
down that road before.
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I know that the tail wags the dog,
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but these TV shows are
in it for the ratings.
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We don't know that any
of this even happened.
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(Carisi) Yeah, I'm all for overtime,
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but don't we have enough work to do?
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Guys, this isn't LMZ.
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It is a legitimate national news magazine.
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They interviewed her. She disclosed.
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And I got a call from dodds,
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who got a call from the mayor.
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So we are going to investigate.
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(Rollins) We don't even
know who this girl is.
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America's Worst Crimes does.
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Don't make me talk to reporters.
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(Skip) Detectives.
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I'm guessing you're here
about the Hudson story.
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Yeah, well, you got everybody talking,
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- including our bosses.
- Well, that's gratifying.
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And not just the Peabody buzz, but
for AWC to be in a position
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to amplify what's going
on behind those Ivy walls.
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Yeah, well, you amplify, we investigate.
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So we're going to need to talk to Jane.
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Well, I'd love to help,
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especially with what that
girl had to suffer through.
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But I can't give you her name.
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Your report says she was gang-raped.
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Now's not the time to hide
behind the first amendment.
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I'm not falling on my journalistic sword.
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The only way Jane would talk
was if I promised her anonymity.
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She's scared to death
of those fraternity boys.
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We can find a judge who will compel you
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to hand over your sources and raw footage.
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All right, look, I'll kick
the footage request upstairs.
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That's not my call.
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As for Jane, I can put you in touch
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with the woman who shopped me the story.
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Maybe she can convince
Jane to talk to NYPD.
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Come on.
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(Dillon) Really insightful work, Emma.
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(Rollins) Professor Dillon? Hey.
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Detectives Rollins and Detective Carisi.
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We're from SVU.
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- How can I help?
- We just, um...
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We wanted to talk to you for a minute
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about the AWC segment last night.
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Sure. I thought it was
important, what they did.
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I'm glad they started the dialogue.
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Hey, listen, we were hoping that you could
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get us in touch with... with Jane.
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The reporter said you introduced them.
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I thought it was crucial
her story be heard.
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But Jane already tried to
disclose once, to the school.
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You heard how that turned out.
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Look, whatever happened
between the victim...
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survivor.
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Okay, the survivor and the university,
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that's got nothing to do with us.
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You have to understand,
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this woman is still extremely fragile.
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To subject her to harsh scrutiny,
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- the legal system...
- All due respect, Professor,
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obviously we'd like to go through you,
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but if you're just gonna get in the way,
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we'll go over or around you.
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Interesting phallocentric
choice of language, Detective.
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My partner is still a work in progress.
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Listen, we all know that something terrible
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happened to Jane.
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We don't want these
guys to get away with it.
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I hear you. I do.
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I just don't think that Jane
wants to deal with any of this.
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But I'll give her a call.
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I see.
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All right, thank you very much.
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[Sighs]
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That was Professor Dillon.
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Jane says she's not going to talk to us.
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That she'll come forward
when and where she wants.
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What does that mean?
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She's scared to make an official complaint.
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And knowing what we know,
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I can't blame her.
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So that leaves us where?
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Back at square one.
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Dillon's no help.
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Hey, speaking of which,
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what was that crack about me
still being a work in progress?
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Oh, come on, Carisi. The
lady's a rape advocate.
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She's got a chip about male detectives.
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I figured I could earn her
trust if I align myself with her.
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Hmm. Rape advocate.
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I don't even get what that is.
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I mean, there's no burglary advocate.
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There's no carjacking advocates.
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When's the last time a
carjacking victim got asked,
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"are you sure you didn't
want your car to get stolen?"
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Okay, I get that.
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- Hmm.
- All right.
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But still, she's just getting in our way.
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Yeah, well, that's SVU. Get used to it.
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- Where are you going?
- Back to campus.
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I don't want to tell the
sarge we came up empty-handed.
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[Speaking Italian]
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No comment.
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Yes.
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Okay, good.
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Grazie, ciao.
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No comment to the Italian
press? They're on this already?
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I got to tell you, bad news
in New York travels fast.
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I mean, there are
already Twitter campaigns,
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calls for campus rallies and
revoking the frat's charter.
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Which explains why the mayor
and the D.A. are all over this.
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And me.
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So have you managed to ID Jane yet?
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Look, Carisi's still trying,
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but the closest he and Rollins have gotten
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is Jane's self-proclaimed
advocate, Professor Dillon.
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She's going to produce Jane?
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No.
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Look, Jane is scared of
fraternity retribution
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if she goes public.
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And she doesn't trust the police.
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So she's not going to talk?
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I could subpoena the
show or this professor.
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There's got to be an easier way.
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Jane said on the AWC piece
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that she disclosed to the university.
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But they didn't specify to whom.
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So let's go to the top and find out.
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Okay. You want me to come with?
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Not necessary.
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President Roberts and I have history.
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I'm assuming this is about that broadcast?
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It is.
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So the victim said that she was shut down
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by the university.
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Do you know who she spoke to?
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- I do. She spoke to me.
- Oh.
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I followed the department of education
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sexual assault protocols to the letter.
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And yet, here we are
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investigating an unreported gang-rape
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that occurred on your watch.
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The first I heard of any
gang was on that show.
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When she came to me,
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she mentioned only one individual.
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- And who was that?
- I'm not at liberty to say.
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These reports are confidential.
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It's university policy.
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That anonymity ceases to exist
when a crime has been committed.
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What exactly did she say?
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What she described was
regrettable drunken sex.
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Not rape.
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With four men holding her down?
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She mentioned one student only.
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She admitted she was intoxicated.
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She went willingly back to
the fraternity with her date.
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I asked her whether she was
sure the sex wasn't consensual.
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She proceeded to become defensive,
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and then she left my office.
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And you didn't bother
to talk to her "date"?
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Actually, I did.
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He said the sex was consensual.
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He seemed credible, he's well-regarded,
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and has no prior complaints.
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That was that.
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The next I heard of this was last night
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when we were blindsided
on national television.
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Well, now that these
allegations have been made,
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I will need her name and
the name of the student
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that she claims attacked her.
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(Protesters) We are all Jane!
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We are all Jane! We are all Jane!
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So...
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She hasn't come to you.
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Which means, whatever happened,
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she hasn't filed a criminal complaint,
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which means my responsibility remains
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protecting the confidentiality
of both students.
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(Protesters) We are all Jane!
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We are all Jane! We are all Jane!
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We are all Jane!
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We are all Jane! We are all Jane!
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Excuse me.
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I have a firestorm on my hands.
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(Protesters) We are all Jane!
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We are all Jane!
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- Hey, Sarge.
- Hey.
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So far on campus nobody's been any help.
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Get anywhere with president Roberts?
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You know, it's the usual.
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First she blames the victim a little bit,
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and then she hides behind the cloak
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of protecting the
students' confidentiality.
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So we still don't even
know who the girl is?
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- No idea.
- (Girl) I was told that
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if my rapist made me feel uncomfortable,
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I could switch classes
or move to another dorm.
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I kept my mouth shut,
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and he graduated with honors last June.
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Now, for the first time,
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I'm speaking my truth, because of Jane.
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[Crowd cheering]
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Thank you.
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All your stories have been so powerful.
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There is one last survivor
who wants to share her story.
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She's someone you already know.
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[Crowd cheering]
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Hi.
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Um, my name is Heather Manning.
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I-I am the real Jane.
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I want to tell you my story.
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So much for anonymity.
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Yeah.
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[Scoffs]
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(Benson) Heather.
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Thank you so much for coming in.
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I hope you realize this does
not mean we're pressing charges.
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- "We"?
- You know, Professor Dillon,
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we think it's probably best
if we speak with Heather alone.
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Actually, Sergeant, could you and I talk?
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Um, sure.
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- Okay.
- This way.
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We just... we just want to get
Heather's side of the story.
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(Dillon) I was worried about
bringing Heather to the police,
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being re-traumatized.
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But I've spoken to others in the community,
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and they've all said that if anyone's
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going to protect a survivor, it's you.
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I will. And I promise you
that I will look after her.
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Heather was clear about
wanting me to sit in with her.
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She doesn't know you, but she trusts me.
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December 12th. I was on a date
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with an Alpha Zeta Pi hockey player.
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Brian Mackey.
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He's the team captain.
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And... and the date was at his frat?
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(Heather) No, no.
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First we went to a bar,
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and then we went back to the house.
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We were making out in the hallway
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when he pulled me into his room.
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Three guys were waiting.
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And they jumped me.
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Like a pack.
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And Brian led you in?
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He was in charge.
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He had two guys hold my
legs while he held my arms.
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And did you know the others?
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His buddies from the hockey team.
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I-I'm not sure I want
to tell you their names.
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Okay. Okay, well, we...
we can get back to that.
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No problem.
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And you were sure that there were four men?
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Yes.
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Okay, because President Roberts
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told us that you only mentioned one.
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President Roberts blamed Heather.
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She didn't feel safe disclosing to her.
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Well, you're safe here, Heather.
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Okay?
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All right, so what happened next?
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Um...
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Then they took turns raping me.
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Sodomizing me.
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Um, sorry.
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Go ahead.
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We didn't talk about this part on TV.
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(Heather) They used an object.
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The handle of a hockey stick.
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And then...
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And they high-fived each
other and they left me there.
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When I tried to pull
myself together and leave,
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the other guys in the
frat threw beer cans at me
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and they yelled at me to go to church.
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They said that I should
call my dad and apologize
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for ruining his life.
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It was so horrible.
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Did you tell anyone?
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Did you tell your parents or your roommate?
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My parents still don't know.
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00:16:16,608 --> 00:16:18,108
Why is that?
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They're in the Central African Republic,
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fighting malaria.
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Did you go to the doctor?
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Is there anyone to corroborate?
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Show them the text, Heather.
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Oh. Um...
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Brian sent me a text.
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His attempt at an apology.
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Here.
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"Sorry about last night.
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"My boys were out of control.
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But you deserve better than what they did."
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This is great, Heather.
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00:16:45,816 --> 00:16:49,084
So is there any other physical evidence?
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Like, maybe the clothes you were wearing?
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Anything like that?
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00:16:53,836 --> 00:16:56,329
Um, actually, one of the guys
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handed me my panties back
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before class that Monday,
just to humiliate me.
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00:17:01,915 --> 00:17:03,930
And you kept them?
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00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,681
I shoved them in my backpack,
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and then I threw them in
my drawer when I got home.
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- They might still be there.
- (Benson) Okay, good.
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00:17:10,472 --> 00:17:14,847
So if you decide to give
us the other boys' names,
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that will be enough to get a DNA sample.
401
00:17:18,976 --> 00:17:21,708
It... it still won't be easy.
402
00:17:21,933 --> 00:17:23,847
No. It's okay.
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00:17:23,890 --> 00:17:26,157
I want to.
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00:17:26,645 --> 00:17:28,645
After the rally, all those other women
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00:17:28,670 --> 00:17:30,436
need to know that they can do this too.
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00:17:32,526 --> 00:17:33,884
Okay.
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00:17:36,411 --> 00:17:38,511
The other names were Connor Howell,
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00:17:38,536 --> 00:17:41,537
Lance Mosconi, and Zach Franklin.
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00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:44,002
All on the hockey team.
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00:17:47,088 --> 00:17:49,876
_
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[Indistinct chatter]
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00:17:56,006 --> 00:17:57,506
This is where it happened.
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00:17:58,057 --> 00:17:59,857
Pick up all cell phones, laptops,
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bedding, and hockey sticks.
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00:18:04,579 --> 00:18:06,697
- NYPD.
- Glad to see you, Officers.
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00:18:06,722 --> 00:18:08,134
You here about the brick
coming through the window?
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00:18:08,159 --> 00:18:09,334
Nice try.
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00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,013
IDs, now. Turn that music off.
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00:18:12,038 --> 00:18:14,611
All right, we're looking
for Howell, Mackey,
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Mosconi, and Franklin.
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00:18:16,245 --> 00:18:18,675
Yes, Sir! Ma'am.
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00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:20,948
Guys, STFU. Come on. I'm Brian Mackey.
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00:18:20,973 --> 00:18:22,239
This is Connor Howell,
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00:18:22,264 --> 00:18:23,763
Lance Mosconi.
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00:18:23,788 --> 00:18:24,925
Franklin's out of the country.
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00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:26,401
(Rollins) Thank you. We have a warrant
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00:18:26,426 --> 00:18:27,409
to search the premises,
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00:18:27,434 --> 00:18:29,901
which means all of you stay put.
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00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:36,146
Somebody wants to hear my side
of the story? That's a first.
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00:18:36,181 --> 00:18:37,881
Brian, between you and me,
there have been a lot of women
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00:18:37,916 --> 00:18:39,315
doing a lot of talking.
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00:18:39,351 --> 00:18:42,018
And sometimes, as guys, our side gets lost.
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00:18:42,054 --> 00:18:43,787
And I just want to hear yours.
434
00:18:43,822 --> 00:18:45,555
Heather and I had sex.
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00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:47,157
Consensual.
436
00:18:47,192 --> 00:18:49,292
Now, this went away months
ago. And now she goes on TV?
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00:18:49,327 --> 00:18:50,694
Had Brian been dating Heather for a while?
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00:18:50,729 --> 00:18:53,063
Heather has wanted the business
from Brian since rush week.
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00:18:53,098 --> 00:18:54,664
He finally threw her a bone.
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00:18:54,707 --> 00:18:56,284
Eight inches of it, brah.
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00:18:56,309 --> 00:18:57,741
How do you know?
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00:18:57,766 --> 00:18:59,265
You watch?
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00:18:59,290 --> 00:19:01,248
(Brian) Heather wanted to stay and snuggle.
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00:19:01,273 --> 00:19:03,640
But I was kind of done.
445
00:19:03,675 --> 00:19:05,642
So she just left?
446
00:19:05,687 --> 00:19:10,290
No, I did. She was upset. You know, girls.
447
00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:12,148
Middle of the night, she
does her walk of shame.
448
00:19:12,173 --> 00:19:14,473
She kind of had to run the gauntlet.
449
00:19:14,498 --> 00:19:16,891
What are we talking about?
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00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:19,591
You call her a whore, you throw things.
451
00:19:19,616 --> 00:19:21,749
We didn't hurt her.
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00:19:21,774 --> 00:19:23,463
Can't take the heat, don't be a thot.
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00:19:23,488 --> 00:19:24,921
You have sex with her?
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00:19:24,946 --> 00:19:26,970
[Scoffs] And pick up Mackey's scraps?
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00:19:26,995 --> 00:19:28,377
I don't think so.
456
00:19:28,402 --> 00:19:30,102
We're the ones getting
screwed here, all right?
457
00:19:30,127 --> 00:19:32,814
Search warrants, a fricking vigil outside?
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00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,748
Nobody raped this girl.
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00:19:34,773 --> 00:19:37,107
Okay, well, that search warrant
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00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:39,014
includes collecting your DNA.
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00:19:41,823 --> 00:19:43,155
Open up.
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00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:46,577
How was the boys' club?
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00:19:46,602 --> 00:19:49,002
Gamey. They're the victims.
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00:19:49,027 --> 00:19:51,827
She's a whore that woke up with regrets.
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00:19:51,852 --> 00:19:53,700
Anybody admit to consensual sex?
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00:19:53,725 --> 00:19:56,359
Brian Mackey. Connor and Lance deny.
467
00:19:56,394 --> 00:19:57,694
And what about the fourth assailant?
468
00:19:57,729 --> 00:19:59,095
Zach Franklin. He's 20.
469
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,913
He's a multi-sport scholar athlete.
470
00:20:00,938 --> 00:20:03,043
He's on a culture tour of Cuba right now.
471
00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:05,068
- Can we get him back?
- From Cuba?
472
00:20:05,093 --> 00:20:08,561
Sarge, Taru just found a video
that Connor made that night.
473
00:20:08,586 --> 00:20:09,983
He erased it from his
cell, but they found it
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on his computer's hard drive.
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00:20:11,243 --> 00:20:13,256
You're gonna want to see this.
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00:20:14,605 --> 00:20:16,943
(Boys) Go to church! Go to church!
477
00:20:16,968 --> 00:20:21,716
Go to church! Go to church! Go to church!
478
00:20:21,749 --> 00:20:25,717
This has been another Connor
Howell slut-shaming video.
479
00:20:26,335 --> 00:20:28,235
That's harassment.
480
00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:30,160
It's ugly, but it's not assault.
481
00:20:30,185 --> 00:20:33,153
We have semen matching
Connor and Brian's DNA
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00:20:33,198 --> 00:20:35,017
on Heather's underwear.
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00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:36,375
Anything on the hockey sticks?
484
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,000
Well, not after three months,
485
00:20:38,025 --> 00:20:41,273
but between Brian's text
and Heather's testimony,
486
00:20:41,298 --> 00:20:42,334
you got enough.
487
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,660
Enough for probable cause.
488
00:20:43,685 --> 00:20:44,992
Everyone wants these guys put away,
489
00:20:45,017 --> 00:20:46,591
but this case is three months cold.
490
00:20:46,616 --> 00:20:47,765
No rape kit.
491
00:20:47,790 --> 00:20:50,357
Heather's initial disclosure
mentioned only one assailant.
492
00:20:50,382 --> 00:20:51,865
President Roberts shut her down.
493
00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:54,865
She can be extremely
intimidating, believe me.
494
00:20:56,026 --> 00:20:57,817
Heather knows what she's in for?
495
00:20:59,829 --> 00:21:01,062
[Sighs]
496
00:21:01,087 --> 00:21:03,220
Bring in the hockey team.
497
00:21:03,245 --> 00:21:06,379
There was no gang-rape, okay?
498
00:21:06,404 --> 00:21:07,870
No assault.
499
00:21:07,895 --> 00:21:09,895
Then why text her this?
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00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,640
"My boys were out of control.
501
00:21:11,665 --> 00:21:13,648
You deserve better than what they did"?
502
00:21:13,673 --> 00:21:15,373
Look, I know the guys, you know, like,
503
00:21:15,398 --> 00:21:17,765
messed with her on the way out.
504
00:21:17,937 --> 00:21:19,337
I felt badly.
505
00:21:19,362 --> 00:21:21,031
The guys? You were there too.
506
00:21:21,056 --> 00:21:23,101
That text was to check in on a friend.
507
00:21:23,126 --> 00:21:24,343
That's not proof of a criminal act.
508
00:21:24,368 --> 00:21:25,768
(Fin) How about the others, Brian?
509
00:21:25,793 --> 00:21:27,042
We have DNA proof
510
00:21:27,067 --> 00:21:28,234
that you weren't the only one.
511
00:21:28,259 --> 00:21:31,334
You do? Then talk to them.
512
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,298
Not me. I told you,
513
00:21:33,323 --> 00:21:35,703
I don't want to be Brian's Eskimo brother.
514
00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:36,671
You're lying, Connor.
515
00:21:36,696 --> 00:21:38,218
We have your DNA on
Heather Manning's underwear
516
00:21:38,243 --> 00:21:40,549
- from that night.
- My DNA's all over that place.
517
00:21:40,574 --> 00:21:41,259
I live there.
518
00:21:41,284 --> 00:21:44,140
This underwear has an
evidentiary chain of custody
519
00:21:44,165 --> 00:21:46,198
- from three months ago?
- (Rollins) Ask your client.
520
00:21:46,223 --> 00:21:48,770
He handed it back to her in class,
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00:21:48,795 --> 00:21:50,270
in front of 20 students.
522
00:21:50,295 --> 00:21:52,070
Which explains the DNA, doesn't it?
523
00:21:52,095 --> 00:21:53,861
Doesn't explain his semen.
524
00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:57,046
Lance, there's a reason that you're here,
525
00:21:57,071 --> 00:21:59,345
and those other guys are in the box.
526
00:22:00,103 --> 00:22:01,836
Because I didn't do anything?
527
00:22:01,861 --> 00:22:03,845
Yeah, that's right. I mean,
you just... you watched.
528
00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:05,570
No, I wasn't even in the room with her.
529
00:22:05,595 --> 00:22:06,539
Okay? I swear.
530
00:22:06,564 --> 00:22:09,187
Well, today's your lucky
day, because if you tell me
531
00:22:09,212 --> 00:22:11,545
who was in the room, you could walk.
532
00:22:14,695 --> 00:22:16,495
You called Cuba?
533
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,419
It's not like I have pull there.
534
00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:20,336
Zach Franklin will be
arrested when he returns
535
00:22:20,361 --> 00:22:22,428
- to American soil.
- If he does.
536
00:22:24,011 --> 00:22:25,711
[Laughs]
537
00:22:25,736 --> 00:22:28,312
Hey, Connor, I was just
telling detective Rollins here
538
00:22:28,337 --> 00:22:29,911
that we don't need to talk to you anymore.
539
00:22:29,936 --> 00:22:31,569
Between the DNA and one of your buddies
540
00:22:31,594 --> 00:22:33,507
putting you in the room
with Heather, you're done.
541
00:22:35,153 --> 00:22:39,089
[Whispering indistinctly]
542
00:22:39,819 --> 00:22:41,217
Okay, look, I didn't
want to say this before,
543
00:22:41,242 --> 00:22:42,414
because I thought it would look bad.
544
00:22:42,439 --> 00:22:43,211
Mm-hmm?
545
00:22:43,236 --> 00:22:44,810
But after she finished with Brian,
546
00:22:44,835 --> 00:22:46,781
she moved on to me like that.
547
00:22:46,806 --> 00:22:48,914
Her idea. Totally consensual.
548
00:22:48,939 --> 00:22:50,867
I didn't rape her.
549
00:22:50,899 --> 00:22:52,232
Ask Brian.
550
00:22:52,257 --> 00:22:55,256
So he was there? He saw you?
551
00:22:59,194 --> 00:23:02,996
Oh, Brian, you forgot to
tell us about your boy Connor.
552
00:23:03,021 --> 00:23:04,954
- What is this about?
- Connor just admitted
553
00:23:04,979 --> 00:23:07,370
that he had sex with
Heather right after you did.
554
00:23:07,395 --> 00:23:08,792
(Wolf) How is that my client's problem?
555
00:23:08,817 --> 00:23:11,492
He said that you knew about
it, which means you lied to us.
556
00:23:13,263 --> 00:23:14,601
So what else you been lying about?
557
00:23:14,626 --> 00:23:16,401
Brian, you don't need to
answer any more questions.
558
00:23:16,426 --> 00:23:18,626
No, I want to explain. I did
see Connor with her, but she w...
559
00:23:18,651 --> 00:23:19,884
enough.
560
00:23:20,194 --> 00:23:22,261
Let him finish.
561
00:23:23,796 --> 00:23:26,497
For her to be acting
all prim and proper now?
562
00:23:27,191 --> 00:23:29,131
She wants to act the whore on Saturday
563
00:23:29,156 --> 00:23:30,530
and play the virgin on Sunday.
564
00:23:30,669 --> 00:23:32,030
(Wolf) There you have it.
565
00:23:32,055 --> 00:23:34,662
Detectives, so far we've
extended every courtesy.
566
00:23:34,687 --> 00:23:36,046
But now it's time for us to go.
567
00:23:36,071 --> 00:23:39,170
Or let's say you could sign
this, we could keep talking,
568
00:23:39,195 --> 00:23:40,361
and you can tell us your side.
569
00:23:40,471 --> 00:23:42,842
And maybe we could
clear this whole thing up
570
00:23:42,867 --> 00:23:45,342
without it having to go
into the system, okay?
571
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:49,625
A temporary arraignment waiver?
Get out of here with that.
572
00:23:49,650 --> 00:23:52,547
Unless my client's under
arrest, we're leaving.
573
00:23:53,925 --> 00:23:55,992
Okay, you two stay here.
574
00:23:56,199 --> 00:23:58,533
I'll see what my D.A. wants to do.
575
00:24:00,655 --> 00:24:02,373
All three turned down the waiver.
576
00:24:02,398 --> 00:24:03,920
Their lawyers think letting
them talk's just going
577
00:24:03,945 --> 00:24:06,076
- to make things worse.
- Good. Arraign them.
578
00:24:06,101 --> 00:24:07,568
The deeper into the system they get,
579
00:24:07,593 --> 00:24:08,537
the harder it is to pull them out.
580
00:24:08,562 --> 00:24:10,389
All right, we'll load them up now.
581
00:24:10,414 --> 00:24:12,919
You know what? Hold up a half-hour.
582
00:24:12,944 --> 00:24:16,246
Connor's a handsome boy with a smug smile.
583
00:24:16,928 --> 00:24:19,388
Be good to get that face on the 11:00 news.
584
00:24:21,153 --> 00:24:23,487
(Reporter) All right, here he comes.
585
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,986
- Hey, Bri?
- [Reporters shouting]
586
00:24:26,151 --> 00:24:28,065
Hey, Brian, this way. Come here, Brian.
587
00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:29,838
Are you going to plead guilty?
588
00:24:30,307 --> 00:24:33,174
Connor, Brian, why did you rape Jane?
589
00:24:37,034 --> 00:24:38,413
Are you the ringleader?
590
00:24:38,438 --> 00:24:40,038
You guys were involved, Connor!
591
00:24:40,063 --> 00:24:42,026
Do you realize what you guys did?
592
00:24:47,095 --> 00:24:49,063
With us this morning is Skip Peterson.
593
00:24:49,098 --> 00:24:52,041
He has an update now on that shocking story
594
00:24:52,066 --> 00:24:53,899
of a gang-rape at Hudson University.
595
00:24:53,924 --> 00:24:56,531
Skip, welcome. I understand that the school
596
00:24:56,556 --> 00:24:59,158
has since suspended all
fraternity activities?
597
00:24:59,183 --> 00:25:01,188
Yes they have, and last night NYPD
598
00:25:01,213 --> 00:25:03,614
arrested and arraigned
three of the accused rapists:
599
00:25:03,639 --> 00:25:06,140
Brian Mackey, captain of the hockey team,
600
00:25:06,173 --> 00:25:09,916
and his teammates Connor
Howell and Lance Mosconi.
601
00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:12,907
And you had a chance to
talk to the victim, Jane?
602
00:25:12,932 --> 00:25:14,389
She's now bravely come forward.
603
00:25:14,414 --> 00:25:15,780
Her real name is Heather Manning.
604
00:25:15,805 --> 00:25:18,239
We caught up with her at a
campus rally late last night.
605
00:25:18,264 --> 00:25:20,798
I am gratified to hear
that three of the six men
606
00:25:20,823 --> 00:25:23,712
who attacked me were
arrested tonight by NYPD.
607
00:25:23,737 --> 00:25:25,036
[All cheering]
608
00:25:25,061 --> 00:25:28,296
What they did that night
was meant to dehumanize me.
609
00:25:28,533 --> 00:25:32,035
When they said, "who
else wants to rape that?"
610
00:25:32,187 --> 00:25:34,411
They weren't just assaulting me.
611
00:25:34,635 --> 00:25:38,637
They were assaulting
every woman on this campus.
612
00:25:38,805 --> 00:25:40,736
Did she just say six men raped her?
613
00:25:40,761 --> 00:25:42,136
I thought it was four.
614
00:25:42,161 --> 00:25:44,327
Maybe she's counting the guys in the video,
615
00:25:44,352 --> 00:25:45,951
the ones in the hall.
616
00:25:45,976 --> 00:25:47,891
I don't know. Something feels off.
617
00:25:47,916 --> 00:25:50,317
"Who else wants to rape that?"
618
00:25:50,354 --> 00:25:52,782
Does that sound like something
even a frat boy would say?
619
00:25:52,807 --> 00:25:54,473
It's not what they
said, it's what they did.
620
00:25:54,498 --> 00:25:55,704
DNA don't lie.
621
00:25:55,729 --> 00:25:57,595
And you say there's more
information still to come?
622
00:25:57,620 --> 00:25:59,454
Sources have told me
that police confiscated
623
00:25:59,479 --> 00:26:01,612
a video of the assault,
and that hockey sticks
624
00:26:01,637 --> 00:26:04,048
used on her have tested positive for DNA.
625
00:26:04,073 --> 00:26:06,474
(Jenna) It's just horrifying.
626
00:26:06,499 --> 00:26:07,618
What about Heather?
627
00:26:07,643 --> 00:26:09,643
Her words are just so powerful.
628
00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:11,329
You told me they didn't find anything
629
00:26:11,354 --> 00:26:12,820
- on those hockey sticks.
- They didn't.
630
00:26:12,845 --> 00:26:14,945
And there's no video of the assault.
631
00:26:15,229 --> 00:26:17,009
So who's his source?
632
00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:20,226
And why is Heather even
giving an interview?
633
00:26:20,251 --> 00:26:21,783
She's gone from reluctant witness
634
00:26:21,808 --> 00:26:23,790
to being on every news show in 48 hours.
635
00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:26,211
Once you tell your story,
it can be empowering.
636
00:26:26,236 --> 00:26:27,111
The floodgates open.
637
00:26:27,136 --> 00:26:29,134
They opened and let in
two extra assailants.
638
00:26:29,159 --> 00:26:30,056
- She's up to six.
- Right.
639
00:26:30,081 --> 00:26:33,356
When you're dealing with PTSD,
things come back in pieces.
640
00:26:33,455 --> 00:26:35,155
I will talk to her.
641
00:26:36,135 --> 00:26:38,767
In no way is this about silencing you.
642
00:26:38,889 --> 00:26:40,867
But we're still making our case.
643
00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:44,460
And we need to know that the
public speeches you've made
644
00:26:44,547 --> 00:26:47,466
won't contradict the
statements you've made to us.
645
00:26:47,491 --> 00:26:49,157
People need to know what
those boys did to her.
646
00:26:49,182 --> 00:26:53,167
Okay, but, first of all,
let's get clear on the who.
647
00:26:53,192 --> 00:26:55,567
You know who they are. You arrested them.
648
00:26:55,592 --> 00:26:57,954
Are we really going to start picking apart
649
00:26:57,979 --> 00:26:59,212
the survivor's story?
650
00:26:59,237 --> 00:27:00,803
This is exactly why we were reluctant
651
00:27:00,828 --> 00:27:01,712
to come here in the first place.
652
00:27:01,737 --> 00:27:03,275
(Benson) I understand, Professor Dillon.
653
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,367
But, Heather, last night at the rally,
654
00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:08,475
you said that there were six assailants.
655
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,712
Are there two others that
we should be looking for?
656
00:27:10,737 --> 00:27:12,603
Look, I don't know exactly
what happened in that room.
657
00:27:12,628 --> 00:27:14,494
People were hiding in the shadows,
658
00:27:14,518 --> 00:27:15,922
chanting, throwing things.
659
00:27:15,947 --> 00:27:18,080
- But the four you named...
- absolutely raped me.
660
00:27:18,105 --> 00:27:19,564
Brian, Connor, Lance, and Zach.
661
00:27:19,589 --> 00:27:21,718
I-I know Zach was there, because
they kept calling him Stinky,
662
00:27:21,743 --> 00:27:23,516
and he said, "dudes, my name is Zach."
663
00:27:23,551 --> 00:27:25,831
(Dillon) Can I ask why
Zach wasn't picked up?
664
00:27:25,856 --> 00:27:28,128
Because he's in Cuba,
and they won't extradite.
665
00:27:28,153 --> 00:27:30,053
But we do have a warrant
out for his arrest.
666
00:27:30,155 --> 00:27:33,703
Good. And again, I hope, going forward,
667
00:27:33,728 --> 00:27:36,034
that we can kick apart
their stories, not Heather's.
668
00:27:36,059 --> 00:27:37,834
(Benson) We can, and we will.
669
00:27:37,934 --> 00:27:39,867
And I hope, going forward,
670
00:27:40,067 --> 00:27:42,573
Heather, that you'll
stop talking to the press
671
00:27:42,598 --> 00:27:45,432
and at rallies about
this, so we can do our job.
672
00:27:45,457 --> 00:27:46,872
You understand?
673
00:27:47,487 --> 00:27:49,572
There's only one problem with that.
674
00:27:49,886 --> 00:27:51,527
Which is what?
675
00:27:51,552 --> 00:27:53,144
I'm supposed to go on Anderson Cooper
676
00:27:53,169 --> 00:27:54,652
and Rachel Maddow tonight.
677
00:27:56,535 --> 00:27:58,834
Heather, you're going
to have to cancel those.
678
00:27:58,896 --> 00:28:00,563
(Dillon) That's impossible.
679
00:28:00,588 --> 00:28:01,823
It's... it's too late.
680
00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:04,948
These issues are finally being
brought to national attention.
681
00:28:04,973 --> 00:28:07,247
The whole country is waking up
682
00:28:07,272 --> 00:28:09,551
to the rape epidemic on our campuses.
683
00:28:09,576 --> 00:28:11,509
I thought that you said that you wanted
684
00:28:11,534 --> 00:28:13,136
to bring your assailants to justice.
685
00:28:13,161 --> 00:28:14,727
I did say that. I do.
686
00:28:14,752 --> 00:28:17,635
But this is so much more than that now.
687
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:20,036
I'm the face of a movement.
688
00:28:25,103 --> 00:28:28,071
She wants me to cancel the interviews.
689
00:28:28,096 --> 00:28:29,831
- (Fin) How'd that go?
- Not good.
690
00:28:29,856 --> 00:28:32,356
- She wants her story heard.
- Which one?
691
00:28:32,381 --> 00:28:33,831
Her story's falling apart.
692
00:28:33,856 --> 00:28:36,566
Six guys, four guys, hockey sticks, no DNA.
693
00:28:36,591 --> 00:28:39,105
She keeps talking, she's
going to torpedo her own case.
694
00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:41,775
(Fin) Zach Franklin just
surfaced at his lawyer's office.
695
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,175
He's about to go live on LMZ right now.
696
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,511
Folks, just let me know
when you're all ready,
697
00:28:46,536 --> 00:28:47,836
and we'll get this going.
698
00:28:48,002 --> 00:28:49,510
Hey, Liv, you know about this?
699
00:28:49,535 --> 00:28:52,210
I'm John Buchanan,
attorney for Zach Franklin.
700
00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:54,199
Star athlete, scholar,
701
00:28:54,224 --> 00:28:57,092
and unequivocally innocent
of any and all charges
702
00:28:57,117 --> 00:28:59,596
in the so-called Hudson University gang-rape.
703
00:28:59,621 --> 00:29:00,737
Of course he is.
704
00:29:00,762 --> 00:29:03,206
That's a big bluff, even for Buchanan.
705
00:29:03,231 --> 00:29:04,480
Think he's got something?
706
00:29:04,505 --> 00:29:07,481
Tell them where you
were December 12th, 2014,
707
00:29:07,506 --> 00:29:10,807
the night of Heather
Manning's alleged assault.
708
00:29:10,832 --> 00:29:13,737
I was nine hours away,
in Kimball, West Virginia,
709
00:29:13,762 --> 00:29:15,728
on the W.V. Hillmen soccer field.
710
00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:20,164
The championship game was televised live
711
00:29:20,189 --> 00:29:23,190
on sen until 11:40 P.M. eastern time.
712
00:29:23,704 --> 00:29:25,671
If you missed it,
713
00:29:25,706 --> 00:29:27,749
you'll be happy to hear Hudson won, 3-zip.
714
00:29:27,774 --> 00:29:29,841
- Benson.
- We didn't vet this?
715
00:29:29,866 --> 00:29:32,343
He was in Cuba, Barba. Remember?
716
00:29:32,368 --> 00:29:34,635
(Buchanan) This was the
exact time Heather Manning
717
00:29:34,660 --> 00:29:36,742
was alleging my client
718
00:29:36,767 --> 00:29:40,641
was engaged in a heinous crime against her.
719
00:29:40,671 --> 00:29:45,641
NYPD and the D.A. are
guilty of an outrageous
720
00:29:45,666 --> 00:29:49,641
and utterly inept
investigation and prosecution.
721
00:29:56,873 --> 00:30:00,924
Zach, tell them where you
were December 12th, 2014,
722
00:30:00,949 --> 00:30:04,044
the night of Heather
Manning's alleged assault.
723
00:30:04,069 --> 00:30:07,270
I was nine hours away,
in Kimball, West Virginia,
724
00:30:07,295 --> 00:30:09,008
on the W.V. Hillmen soccer field.
725
00:30:09,219 --> 00:30:11,987
"Alleged assault"? Heather was gang-raped.
726
00:30:12,022 --> 00:30:14,823
If that's true, Zach
Franklin was not involved.
727
00:30:14,858 --> 00:30:16,091
I could have sworn he was there.
728
00:30:16,126 --> 00:30:18,192
It was dark, but I heard his voice.
729
00:30:18,217 --> 00:30:20,439
Because you told us that they
called him by his nickname,
730
00:30:20,464 --> 00:30:22,692
that you heard him respond.
731
00:30:23,448 --> 00:30:25,625
Well, maybe that happened in a nightmare.
732
00:30:25,747 --> 00:30:27,447
I haven't been sleeping.
733
00:30:27,472 --> 00:30:29,138
(Dillon) Survivors have unclear memories.
734
00:30:29,163 --> 00:30:32,198
But the other boys are
guilty. You have their DNA.
735
00:30:32,223 --> 00:30:33,819
They're claiming it was consensual.
736
00:30:33,844 --> 00:30:35,591
And you believe them over Heather?
737
00:30:35,616 --> 00:30:38,031
Professor Dillon, I think it's best
738
00:30:38,057 --> 00:30:39,826
if Heather speaks to the A.D.A. alone.
739
00:30:39,850 --> 00:30:40,949
I disagree.
740
00:30:40,974 --> 00:30:42,636
I'm the only one who's been here for her.
741
00:30:42,661 --> 00:30:44,563
(Barba) You've advocated
enough. It's our turn.
742
00:30:44,588 --> 00:30:46,535
If you want this case to continue,
743
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,907
I need Heather to tell me
exactly what happened to her.
744
00:30:48,932 --> 00:30:50,499
And you need to tell Detective Rollins
745
00:30:50,524 --> 00:30:51,890
exactly what Heather disclosed to you.
746
00:30:51,915 --> 00:30:54,051
We told everything to Skip Peterson.
747
00:30:54,076 --> 00:30:56,751
Mm-hmm. We're talking to him right now too.
748
00:30:58,264 --> 00:31:01,251
I don't need you to tell
me this thing is blowing up.
749
00:31:01,564 --> 00:31:04,524
Hash-tag "what else did
skip Skip?" is trending.
750
00:31:05,685 --> 00:31:07,119
I'm just as hurt by this as you are.
751
00:31:07,144 --> 00:31:09,315
Look, our case is collapsing.
752
00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:11,490
You took this on air.
753
00:31:11,515 --> 00:31:14,716
Now you need to give us
anything that you have
754
00:31:14,741 --> 00:31:16,528
that can corroborate Heather's story.
755
00:31:16,553 --> 00:31:18,291
Your notes, your interviews.
756
00:31:18,316 --> 00:31:19,185
I can't do that.
757
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:21,076
We're way past the coy shtick, Skip.
758
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:22,968
You don't get it. I can't corroborate,
759
00:31:22,993 --> 00:31:24,443
because I don't have
anything to do so with.
760
00:31:24,468 --> 00:31:26,568
Come on, you must have talked to the boys?
761
00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:28,151
To people who saw Heather the next day?
762
00:31:28,176 --> 00:31:29,875
- The school?
- No.
763
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,172
I talked to Professor Dillon
and Heather, in that order.
764
00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:38,350
Isn't investigating the main component
765
00:31:38,375 --> 00:31:39,974
of investigative journalism?
766
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:42,547
Three boys have been
arrested and arraigned.
767
00:31:42,572 --> 00:31:45,673
Their reputations damaged,
possibly beyond repair.
768
00:31:45,888 --> 00:31:48,243
Now, I know that that's on us, too, but...
769
00:31:48,268 --> 00:31:49,841
20/20 hindsight's easy.
770
00:31:49,866 --> 00:31:51,632
You sound like my producer.
771
00:31:51,657 --> 00:31:53,728
Should I have talked
to them? Obviously, yes.
772
00:31:53,753 --> 00:31:54,718
So why didn't you?
773
00:31:54,743 --> 00:31:56,026
Because I was protecting Heather.
774
00:31:56,051 --> 00:31:57,634
She was terrified of reprisals.
775
00:31:57,659 --> 00:32:00,533
And given Hudson's history,
she had every right to be.
776
00:32:00,801 --> 00:32:02,821
I found Heather to be very credible.
777
00:32:02,857 --> 00:32:04,733
I have daughters her age.
778
00:32:04,772 --> 00:32:07,417
I have to say, I feel
gratified in some small way
779
00:32:07,442 --> 00:32:10,309
I helped start a dialogue about
the outrage of campus rape.
780
00:32:10,674 --> 00:32:12,434
- (Woman) Skip, five minutes.
- Then why didn't you
781
00:32:12,459 --> 00:32:14,145
start that dialogue with
a story that was true?
782
00:32:14,170 --> 00:32:17,372
Because most other stories
are more complicated.
783
00:32:17,433 --> 00:32:19,215
They're he-said, she-said.
784
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,940
Heather's story checked every box.
785
00:32:20,965 --> 00:32:23,911
Callous administration.
Entitled, white frat boy jocks.
786
00:32:23,936 --> 00:32:26,036
The pack mentality gang-bang aspect.
787
00:32:26,061 --> 00:32:27,728
That's the story I've been looking for.
788
00:32:27,753 --> 00:32:29,486
If we hadn't grabbed it,
someone else would have.
789
00:32:29,511 --> 00:32:31,111
Damn the consequences, right?
790
00:32:31,136 --> 00:32:33,036
Don't blame the messenger,
blame the audience.
791
00:32:33,061 --> 00:32:34,426
Campus rape is so commonplace,
792
00:32:34,451 --> 00:32:36,251
it doesn't even rise to the level of news.
793
00:32:36,276 --> 00:32:39,077
Look what it took to
get anyone to even care.
794
00:32:39,311 --> 00:32:42,617
I'd love to do this all day,
but I have a retraction to tape.
795
00:32:42,642 --> 00:32:44,717
Let's go, guys. Let's do it.
796
00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:48,617
I went on a date with Brian.
797
00:32:48,801 --> 00:32:50,534
We got a little drunk.
798
00:32:50,608 --> 00:32:53,117
Then we made our way back to the frat.
799
00:32:54,583 --> 00:32:58,073
I thought he liked me, but it went wrong.
800
00:32:58,521 --> 00:32:59,817
It was horrible.
801
00:32:59,842 --> 00:33:01,275
Focus on the facts.
802
00:33:01,735 --> 00:33:04,739
Did Brian lead you into a dark room
803
00:33:04,764 --> 00:33:06,939
where three of his brothers were waiting?
804
00:33:07,305 --> 00:33:09,072
His room was dark,
805
00:33:09,097 --> 00:33:12,432
but it was empty.
806
00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:14,138
At first.
807
00:33:14,762 --> 00:33:17,463
So Connor Howell and Lance
Mosconi weren't waiting there?
808
00:33:18,856 --> 00:33:21,339
Connor came in later. I'm positive of that.
809
00:33:21,363 --> 00:33:22,562
And Lance?
810
00:33:23,243 --> 00:33:25,577
I don't know.
811
00:33:27,206 --> 00:33:29,825
I know he was outside, but it was dark.
812
00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:33,598
I was drunk, confused.
813
00:33:33,623 --> 00:33:35,596
Confused about what?
814
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:40,784
When Heather came to me,
she couldn't even articulate
815
00:33:40,809 --> 00:33:42,309
what had been done to her.
816
00:33:42,334 --> 00:33:45,208
That's how deep the culturally
imposed self-blame goes.
817
00:33:45,233 --> 00:33:49,368
Okay, what exactly did she articulate?
818
00:33:49,393 --> 00:33:51,509
She told me she'd been assaulted.
819
00:33:52,073 --> 00:33:54,208
Did she say she was gang-raped?
820
00:33:54,271 --> 00:33:57,208
It was obvious she'd been through hell.
821
00:33:57,402 --> 00:34:00,288
Professor Dillon told me
that I was so traumatized,
822
00:34:00,313 --> 00:34:03,314
it would take a while for me
to process what had happened.
823
00:34:03,871 --> 00:34:06,296
Heather...
824
00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:09,596
Did Brian Mackey rape you?
825
00:34:11,782 --> 00:34:13,457
I was drunk.
826
00:34:14,506 --> 00:34:17,096
He started to have sex with me.
827
00:34:17,704 --> 00:34:19,796
He moved really fast.
828
00:34:20,621 --> 00:34:22,497
Did you move with him?
829
00:34:22,773 --> 00:34:24,596
I guess...
830
00:34:25,315 --> 00:34:27,296
In the beginning.
831
00:34:28,439 --> 00:34:31,197
So it's possible it was consensual.
832
00:34:32,019 --> 00:34:33,596
I'm not sure.
833
00:34:35,676 --> 00:34:37,342
I passed out.
834
00:34:39,516 --> 00:34:43,197
When I woke up, Connor
Howell was on top of me.
835
00:34:44,593 --> 00:34:46,793
He was raping me.
836
00:34:46,818 --> 00:34:49,197
I absolutely didn't want that.
837
00:34:51,937 --> 00:34:55,070
I remember Brian coming back into the room.
838
00:34:57,503 --> 00:34:59,301
And the others?
839
00:35:00,211 --> 00:35:02,071
That night is a blur.
840
00:35:04,981 --> 00:35:08,049
Guys harassing me as I left.
841
00:35:09,739 --> 00:35:11,672
When I told Professor Dillon that,
842
00:35:11,697 --> 00:35:14,672
she said they probably
all took a piece of me.
843
00:35:17,612 --> 00:35:19,446
Professor Dillon told you that?
844
00:35:23,201 --> 00:35:25,468
Can you wait here a minute?
845
00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:28,008
I need to know exactly
what you told Heather.
846
00:35:28,033 --> 00:35:29,433
What she already knew.
847
00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,091
It was barbaric the way they abused her,
848
00:35:31,116 --> 00:35:34,020
- taunted her, assaulted her.
- But she was raped.
849
00:35:34,045 --> 00:35:35,711
Right? Is that what she told you?
850
00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:37,416
By how many men?
851
00:35:37,441 --> 00:35:38,974
What difference does that make?
852
00:35:38,999 --> 00:35:40,465
- Excuse me?
- (Dillon) She was assaulted.
853
00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:42,154
Does it matter by whom,
854
00:35:42,179 --> 00:35:44,013
for how long, in which orifice?
855
00:35:44,038 --> 00:35:46,417
Yes! Yes! It matters.
856
00:35:46,442 --> 00:35:48,709
We are talking about criminal charges
857
00:35:48,734 --> 00:35:50,376
based on specifics of what happened.
858
00:35:50,401 --> 00:35:52,335
It doesn't matter what happened to her.
859
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,490
What matters is it happens every day.
860
00:35:54,515 --> 00:35:57,428
And these frat boys strut
around like they're bulletproof.
861
00:35:57,453 --> 00:36:00,821
So a few of them finally
have to take responsibility?
862
00:36:00,846 --> 00:36:04,280
Good. This isn't about you
or these boys or this case.
863
00:36:04,305 --> 00:36:05,592
This is bigger than any of us.
864
00:36:05,617 --> 00:36:09,392
This is about eliminating
rape culture once and for all.
865
00:36:18,969 --> 00:36:21,413
Our story, "Nightmare on Campus,"
866
00:36:21,438 --> 00:36:23,581
generated international media attention
867
00:36:23,606 --> 00:36:25,606
and inspired a long-overdue discussion
868
00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:27,627
about campus sexual assault.
869
00:36:27,652 --> 00:36:30,221
However, it has now come to our attention
870
00:36:30,246 --> 00:36:32,613
that many of the disturbing allegations
871
00:36:32,638 --> 00:36:34,526
were fabricated by Heather Manning.
872
00:36:34,591 --> 00:36:36,536
Did I miss the actual apology part?
873
00:36:36,561 --> 00:36:39,207
Like many of you, I believed Heather.
874
00:36:39,232 --> 00:36:40,899
That was a mistake.
875
00:36:41,019 --> 00:36:42,934
We have asked an independent ombudsman
876
00:36:42,959 --> 00:36:44,592
from the medill school of journalism
877
00:36:44,627 --> 00:36:46,721
to investigate and issue a report
878
00:36:46,746 --> 00:36:49,721
about what we can do
differently in the future.
879
00:36:49,962 --> 00:36:52,329
An independent investigation.
880
00:36:52,354 --> 00:36:53,954
They're throwing the book at themselves.
881
00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:57,468
Barba's hanging by a string and
dodds is hanging you out to dry.
882
00:36:57,493 --> 00:36:59,742
I don't blame him. We moved too fast.
883
00:36:59,767 --> 00:37:00,952
We didn't vet it hard enough.
884
00:37:00,977 --> 00:37:02,939
It's not on us. It's
not even on that haircut.
885
00:37:02,964 --> 00:37:05,164
It's on Heather. She straight-out lied to us.
886
00:37:05,189 --> 00:37:06,338
Fin.
887
00:37:06,548 --> 00:37:08,684
Heather, can I help you?
888
00:37:11,878 --> 00:37:13,642
Once the story got out there,
889
00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:16,969
I had all these survivors
coming to me and disclosing,
890
00:37:16,994 --> 00:37:19,661
counting on me to be their strength.
891
00:37:19,686 --> 00:37:22,219
I couldn't just take back my story.
892
00:37:22,244 --> 00:37:24,744
But your story wasn't true, Heather.
893
00:37:24,769 --> 00:37:27,112
Brian may think he didn't rape me.
894
00:37:27,137 --> 00:37:28,870
But we were both drunk.
895
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,683
Professor Dillon told me that that means
896
00:37:31,708 --> 00:37:33,608
that I wasn't capable of consenting.
897
00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:37,046
She also said that once I passed out,
898
00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:38,970
there's no way to know what happened to me.
899
00:37:39,015 --> 00:37:40,782
I could have been gang-raped.
900
00:37:41,140 --> 00:37:43,927
But we can't make that case.
901
00:37:43,952 --> 00:37:45,384
What about Connor?
902
00:37:45,409 --> 00:37:47,575
I know he raped me.
903
00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:48,862
Brian left.
904
00:37:48,887 --> 00:37:52,422
And I was passed out. I was half-naked.
905
00:37:52,573 --> 00:37:56,608
And then I came to because
Connor was raping me.
906
00:37:56,633 --> 00:37:58,738
Hard, violent.
907
00:38:02,556 --> 00:38:04,038
Did anybody else see?
908
00:38:04,074 --> 00:38:08,038
Yes. Brian came in. He saw everything.
909
00:38:09,647 --> 00:38:12,281
And then he just turned and walked away.
910
00:38:12,409 --> 00:38:13,922
Like you're doing now.
911
00:38:17,957 --> 00:38:19,857
I believe you, Heather.
912
00:38:21,261 --> 00:38:24,195
But a jury is going to
have reasonable doubt.
913
00:38:27,879 --> 00:38:29,868
So that's it?
914
00:38:30,769 --> 00:38:34,037
I have to go to school
every day and see my rapist?
915
00:38:35,192 --> 00:38:37,259
I'm sorry, Heather.
916
00:38:37,373 --> 00:38:40,251
I'm sorry about all of it.
917
00:38:40,926 --> 00:38:42,893
And if there was something I could do
918
00:38:42,999 --> 00:38:45,566
to go back and change it, I would.
919
00:38:45,591 --> 00:38:48,859
[Crying]
920
00:38:48,884 --> 00:38:50,751
[Quietly] But at this point...
921
00:38:51,913 --> 00:38:54,280
There's nothing we can do.
922
00:38:59,845 --> 00:39:01,657
_
923
00:39:01,682 --> 00:39:03,915
Your Honor, given the
collapse of this case,
924
00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:05,544
we move for a dismissal of all charges
925
00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:06,876
against the four defendants.
926
00:39:06,901 --> 00:39:08,734
How say you, Mr. Barba?
927
00:39:08,759 --> 00:39:10,659
We are prepared to drop the charges.
928
00:39:10,684 --> 00:39:13,451
(Judge Pepitone) Against
all four of the accused?
929
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,676
Yes, your honor. All four.
930
00:39:15,712 --> 00:39:20,248
Assuming no other holds, you
are free to go, gentlemen.
931
00:39:20,283 --> 00:39:21,729
Thank you, your honor.
932
00:39:32,455 --> 00:39:34,550
[Scoffs]
933
00:39:36,513 --> 00:39:40,281
I believed Heather. I
still believe Heather.
934
00:39:40,306 --> 00:39:43,474
We all know something horrible
happened to her that night,
935
00:39:43,499 --> 00:39:46,084
but until rape culture
changes in this country,
936
00:39:46,109 --> 00:39:48,276
none of us will be safe.
937
00:39:48,311 --> 00:39:51,746
And that was just part of
the outrage on campus today
938
00:39:51,781 --> 00:39:53,581
as students reacted to the news
939
00:39:53,616 --> 00:39:55,498
that the D.A. has dropped the charges
940
00:39:55,523 --> 00:39:56,889
against all four defendants
941
00:39:56,914 --> 00:39:58,881
in the Hudson University gang-rape case.
942
00:39:59,155 --> 00:40:01,489
Meanwhile, an attorney
for the former defendants
943
00:40:01,524 --> 00:40:03,324
will be filing a lawsuit
944
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:06,260
against Hudson University
and the NYPD early next week.
945
00:40:06,296 --> 00:40:07,562
Turn that off.
946
00:40:07,597 --> 00:40:09,897
Well, we should feel proud.
947
00:40:09,933 --> 00:40:11,599
Pumped up their ratings for another week,
948
00:40:11,654 --> 00:40:13,454
and those boys will never
get their reputations back.
949
00:40:13,479 --> 00:40:15,200
Yeah, but that's the job, Carisi.
950
00:40:15,225 --> 00:40:18,293
It's hard to know what actually
happened in cases like these.
951
00:40:18,318 --> 00:40:20,785
If you can't take that,
SVU isn't right for you.
952
00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:23,344
Nah, I get it. I'm good here.
953
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,279
Let's hope Liv is.
954
00:40:25,315 --> 00:40:27,815
Right now she's heading up to Hudson U.
955
00:40:27,850 --> 00:40:31,147
Round three of the apology tour.
956
00:40:31,321 --> 00:40:32,964
Given everything that's happened,
957
00:40:32,989 --> 00:40:36,624
I wanted to apologize for
my tone a few days back.
958
00:40:36,659 --> 00:40:38,326
We were both taken advantage of,
959
00:40:38,361 --> 00:40:40,094
and we both had blinders on.
960
00:40:40,354 --> 00:40:43,467
You know, it was the perfect story.
961
00:40:43,492 --> 00:40:46,177
It confirmed all of my
preconceived notions.
962
00:40:46,202 --> 00:40:49,303
And that alone should
have made me approach it
963
00:40:49,339 --> 00:40:51,038
with more skepticism.
964
00:40:51,074 --> 00:40:52,873
And, to be honest, I can't help but ask
965
00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:54,208
if I'd listened to Heather
966
00:40:54,244 --> 00:40:55,843
instead of badgering her with questions
967
00:40:55,878 --> 00:40:57,578
if this wouldn't have ended differently.
968
00:40:57,603 --> 00:40:58,702
Maybe.
969
00:40:58,727 --> 00:41:01,027
Maybe she would have
told you the true story.
970
00:41:02,703 --> 00:41:06,939
Connor Howell did actually rape Heather.
971
00:41:08,375 --> 00:41:11,535
You have a dangerous
predator on your campus.
972
00:41:12,446 --> 00:41:13,912
And now that he's gotten away with it,
973
00:41:13,937 --> 00:41:16,070
he'll likely be emboldened.
974
00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:18,225
And you can't prosecute,
975
00:41:18,250 --> 00:41:20,083
but you want me to discipline him?
976
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,962
I'm asking you to do what you can.
977
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:27,654
A lot less than I could have last week.
978
00:41:27,791 --> 00:41:29,925
We had an incident last night.
979
00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:32,751
The first thing the accused
said to campus security was,
980
00:41:32,776 --> 00:41:35,962
"she's lying just like Heather Manning."
981
00:41:38,421 --> 00:41:41,061
I don't blame Heather.
982
00:41:41,086 --> 00:41:44,269
Skip Peterson and Professor Dillon,
983
00:41:44,294 --> 00:41:47,552
they... they pressured
her into coming forward.
984
00:41:49,198 --> 00:41:50,464
They thought this would be the case
985
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,601
that would change rape culture and it did.
986
00:41:55,509 --> 00:41:59,511
It set the clock back 30 years.
987
00:42:05,094 --> 00:42:09,289
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