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Honestly, I was so overworked and exhausted that I was this close to quitting porn

I had to take a break. In America, people view us as objects or not human.

They are dehumanized us a little bit. They don't view us as celebrities.

In Japan, they view you as a celebrity.

Yeah, they just want you to look innocent. That's what gives off the innocent vibes is when you don't want it for some reason.

Like, you can't be innocent and want to have sex.

So welcome to I Hate Porn, the sex podcast from lustfeed.com. Today we're talking about

Japanese porn with Melody Marks. She's an American porn star that's also worked in Japan.

So how's it going?

I'm doing good. I just got to Budapest a little bit ago, a few days ago, and I've been working

and traveling and exploring and I'm having a good time so far. Everyone here is super

nice.

What do you think to Budapest?

I think that it's cold right now.

It's really cold.

I think I should definitely come back when it's a little warmer so I can explore a little

more freely and where the cute outfits I want for the photos and everything.

But yeah, I haven't seen much.

I went on this Ferris wheel and I got to look over the city and it was so beautiful.

I think tonight I might go there at night and go look at it and see what it looks like.

I'm sure the lights are going to be so pretty.

But yeah, I love it so far.

Yeah, it's a really beautiful city and I think Americans normally love this place

It's like it's a real party city and then it's also beautiful. I haven't experienced the parties here yet, but

Hopefully, hopefully soon

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Let's talk about Japanese porn.

- Yes.

- So you've worked over there.

I don't think many people have.

And like, I guess you're like our expert.

- I suppose you could say that,

but I've been to Japan twice now to work.

And the company, the second one that I worked with,

actually has started to fly to America to work with girls.

So I like, I'm still in contact with them.

and I talk to them a lot and work with them a lot

and they wanna bring me back for a third time

when supporters are very like, you know,

it's much easier to enter the country.

But yeah, I can--

- You're like more popular in Asia than in America,

would you say?

- Yes, the first time that I went to Japan,

I was only a year into the industry.

I was 19 and I lost my train of thought.

I lost my train of thought.

(laughing)

Okay, but I didn't really,

I had maybe a little under 100,000 followers at the time

on Twitter, which at the time, Newmoo was a lot,

you know what I mean? - Yeah.

- But I was still really new.

Not that many people knew me, especially in America.

But then when I went to Japan,

my following started to pick up very fast.

It started to skyrocket,

and I didn't really notice or comprehend it at first.

I just thought, oh, maybe more scenes of mine

are coming out, blah, blah, blah.

And the second time that I went to Japan,

it also just started getting more and more and more,

just started getting ridiculous.

And yeah, I realized these are all Asian fans.

All of my fans come from Asia, not just Japan,

but all over, mostly like Thailand and Taiwan.

Also, for some reason they really enjoy my videos,

especially the ones shot in Japan.

But yeah, it's just so interesting to me

why they have such a liking for me.

- Was it a deliberate choice to work in Japan

or how did it happen?

- So actually, this is interesting.

I was with Hussie Models at the time

and I was only with them for a year.

I only signed a year-long contract.

And my agent, before this,

Steve Holmes, the porn star.

- Mm-hmm.

- We had just worked together recently.

Again, this was my first year in porn.

And he said, "Melody, my good friend Momo reached out to me.

"He saw our selfie we took.

"All of this is because of a selfie, mind you."

One picture of me and Steve together.

And he said, "Momo just thinks you're a very lovely

"young lady and I told him how nice you are, blah, blah, blah.

he was just chatting about me and

He wants to know if you'd like to come to Japan to work and

at first, you know, I

Had not very well traveled back then. I had maybe been to Mexico and Canada and I was

Shocked because I've the two places I've always wanted to go when I was younger was Japan and Paris and to be like told

I have an opportunity to go to another country and work. I was like, oh, absolutely. I went to my agent.

I told him he said absolutely not. And he's like, this is not legit.

This is probably very dangerous, blah, blah, blah. It's not real. It's probably

escorting. It's probably this, it's probably that. Wow, they really didn't want you to go. No.

And then but I said to Steve I'm like is this legitimately like videos

I don't not going to be with random men and he's like, no, this is a very nice company

They treat the girls like princesses you will you will have be on DVDs like there's nothing not on camera and I'm like

okay, this is very strange and

So basically me and Steve and Momo

All planned this trip just the three of us. I did all this by myself with them

My agent had nothing to do with it yet. He wanted at the very end of my trip. He said, okay now you give me

15% I said I did nothing

Absolutely, I think I would have replied to stronger words

One first of all our contract. I only work for you in Florida

not out of the country so you don't legally get anything.

Secondly, our contract ended,

did you forget I signed one year, not three?

So he was like, oh, oh.

So yeah, that's how that went.

I felt very like fortunate, I don't know,

it was like a very stroke of luck kind of thing

for that to happen as if we didn't take that photo,

would I even be sitting here right now?

Who knows?

- Yeah, it just could have been a different career,

more focused on America. Yeah, it's very insane to me. And so it sounds like you

were quite nervous about working in Japan before you went there. Oh I was... I just

didn't know what to expect at all especially because I hadn't worked with

a lot of companies to begin with. I hadn't worked with big name companies

And I was very new and imagine I told you earlier I get nervous before seeing still to this day I get anxious.

Yeah.

So imagine how anxious I was to be traveling out of the country completely by myself.

I had never flown that far in my life.

It was a very long flight like 14 hour flight in one go.

And I had to stop in the Philippines and then go even a little further to Japan.

So it was very exhausting.

The time zone difference was insane.

At the time I was also smoking weed.

So I was going through withdrawals from it

because I've never stopped smoking before at that point.

So it was difficult to adjust

and I was sick like the first,

I couldn't work the first three days I was there

because of how jet lagged and ill I felt from no weed.

- Yeah, jet lag makes me feel sick as well anyway.

So with some weed withdrawals, it might be worse.

- Oh, it was difficult.

That's all I'm gonna say about that.

But I stopped smoking for like the whole two or three weeks

that I was there, so I felt very healthy.

- Did you watch Japanese porn before you went there?

- Well, I wouldn't say Japanese.

I watch a lot of like hentai.

- Okay. - I don't know if that counts.

- It kind of counts, but it's different.

- No, I didn't really do much research beforehand.

- You just dove in.

- I just dove in.

I just went over there and because I can adapt very well.

I was thinking of the word.

I can adapt really well to other cultures

and the way that other people work very easily.

So it wasn't hard for me at all to just do what they asked.

I have a very, I don't like to say this,

but I have a people pleaser.

So I guess. - Okay.

I just like I will always show up to set with a smile on my face and just be very respectful of what they asked me to do and

We all have a good day and they treat me like princess and it was it was fine

That's really good. Yeah, he was there any like big difference you noticed in Japanese porn compared to Western porn

Well the first difference and in the making of it at least

in America

when we film, most of the time it takes a full work day

to film one video, a professional one like they would

in Japan, not like content trade or like a quick VR video

or something like that.

Even VR videos sometimes take all day.

But this is just for the sake of like boy girl,

regular porn.

And in Japan, both times that I went,

so I knew this wasn't just, you know,

because I only had so much time,

they just work like this. They're very hard working people and the reason why

they treat you so well, put your shoes on for you, tie your shoes. They put your shoes on for you.

I had like these ballerina slippers and they just I tried to put them on

myself and I just remember I will never forget it because it was just so like I

felt like a princess like I felt like royalty he was like no no you don't know

I got this I have this. I'm like obviously he was speaking Japanese but I

I understood that he was like saying don't don't but anyways, um,

the reason why they treat you like a goddess is because if they didn't,

they would not be working like, like you would,

they do like three to four scenes a day. Um,

and they're really good scenes thought out with scripts and different hair,

different makeup, different outfit, completely different outfit.

I'm not just talking like a different top and different skirt like tights, shoes.

That sounds like four hours of makeup alone or something.

Yeah, they'll do different makeup, maybe touch up, maybe like just add something

a little bit here and there.

You know, they don't put fake eyelashes on you.

They don't, it's not American makeup.

It's very natural looking makeup.

And I'm already very pale, so they don't have to do much to my face.

It's just stereotype though that the Japanese, so of course they work harder.

No, it's true though.

It is so true.

And sometimes even we'd go to different locations also for the scenes.

Like each one we'd go be somewhere else.

So organized, isn't it?

So organized.

There was a team of like, oh, I don't know how many people.

At least over like 15, 20 people, the whole team.

There's way more though, because they had an office building.

That must be hard for the guys with that many people watching, I think.

Well, not, there's an office where they all work.

Some, they're not all with us at the same time.

Sometimes there'd be like maybe 10 people with us at most

or maybe like eight.

Yeah, there was like a good group of people

like some assistants, the makeup artist,

my translator Momo, who like takes care of the girls

and makes sure they're just taken care of.

The person who's filming the director.

Yeah, there's just a handful of people.

Some American companies also have big teams,

but most of the time in America,

it's the makeup artist, the director,

maybe an assistant or two. Yeah. So but there's like a big team. I mean they have so much

equipment they have to carry too like they're overly prepared. Really? Yes. What are they

using that we're not? Um no they just bring lots of props and lots of things for the girls

like they always have out I didn't have to wear a single one article of my own clothing

like they had all the outfits provided. That's so different isn't it? Yes it was really nice.

I liked that part because the outfits I could not find them or wear those in American films

like they were very kawaii like what is it like you know the maid cafes like stuff like

that.

Yeah.

It was so funny to me.

And I noticed they gave you a slightly different name in Japan.

Melody Hina Marks.

What's Hina mean?

I'm pretty sure it means like beautiful or goddess of some sort.

I think let me look it up because I remember looking it up as well.

I need to know.

Oh, it's derived from light or sun.

So that's pretty nice.

Yeah.

And I don't know why they call me Nordic.

Yeah, they are on a video as it says like Melody Hina Mark's debut.

This Scandinavian blonde angel.

Yeah.

cream pies. Yes, Scandinavian. I'm like, what? Yeah. And I have no explanation

actually for that because I don't know if I even asked or not, but very confusing.

And the other word that keeps coming up in the titles is... Maybe it was more catchy.

Translucent blonde. Trans... Am I that white? I'm Caucasian. Yeah, we just see all your veins,

muscle just transparent yeah oh god well I don't think I've seen that that's

funny yeah did you get to like choose like limits and what types of scenes you

do or well I mean obviously the big nose for me were like anal no I mean not

that they would have asked but double-badged I wouldn't have done do

they care about those things though because if it's censored like it doesn't

matter what you're using, right?

No, you can tell, you can tell.

Yeah.

Um, no, I, now that I'm thinking about it, there wasn't really any boundaries for me

there, like when I went there, they just, it was very normal, boy girl.

Like they didn't ask for crazy stuff.

They didn't ask for like, you know, urine videos or anything like that.

They didn't ask for that.

They didn't ask for crazy things, but I'm sure if they, they would have just

been polite about it and been like, okay, no, okay.

They wouldn't have pushed it.

I'm trying to think of like,

the only thing that I felt was like overworked

'cause I wasn't used to doing that

and I'd be like doing it three days in a row of work

with like three to four scenes a day.

Like in the scenes, each one was like boy girl scenes

or blow job scenes.

So it wasn't just like, oh, a solo.

I do a lot of solo videos also.

But yeah, one day we did like four or five solo videos,

but they were so pretty.

I'll pull them up for you later.

Like I remember I was dressed up as a ballerina for one.

And it was like, the video wasn't like a video

that you would think it's more like,

what is the word I'm thinking of mosaic?

Mosaic, you know what I'm talking about?

- Yeah.

- With the music, the very slow music where it's like slow mo.

- I guess more like erotic.

- Erotic, yes, just like that.

And there was a photo book that went along with it also.

- Wow, they print stuff still.

- Yeah, and I'm trying to get someone to send me one,

but you're not allowed to like ship pornography

out of Japan.

So it's difficult because I'm like, I really want one.

There's only so many of them that are made.

- Yeah. - And they're so pretty.

The photos are, I love them so much.

But I was dressed up as a ballerina

for one of the videos that day.

I had a green transparent dress

or a blue transparent dress for one that was so beautiful.

I was dressed up as a school girl.

What else?

Oh, I had a blue wig for one that was pretty funny.

- Yeah, cosplay is popular, isn't it though?

- I don't think, I wouldn't say it was cosplay.

I think they just put a blue wig on me.

- They just needed the change.

- Yeah.

I didn't necessarily love the blue wig

because I don't like short hair, but it was okay.

I also like looking back on my photos,

I always just remember like,

I used to be like a little chunkier, like a little bigger.

So I always look at them like, what happened to my boobies?

Like I love these photos.

I wish I had those boobies still.

- One thing I really want to talk about

is the actual sex in Japanese porn.

- Let's get into it.

- 'Cause when I'm watching,

it looks like the girls are in pain

and they're making noises like they don't want the sex.

- Well, have you seen mine personally or no?

- I've binged this week and it did seem more Japanese style

but not as much as what--

- Yeah, not like pain.

- Yeah, I wouldn't say pain.

- I don't know.

They told me that I was like fitting in very well

with like their aesthetic of the way that they film

and like the way that the girls are portrayed in their porn

but I didn't wanna like overdo it.

I didn't wanna pretend to be something

that I wasn't obviously like I just am myself,

but I just kind of like changed the way that I was like,

performing for the sake of the outcome of the video.

So obviously sometimes I can't understand

what they're saying to me, the male talent.

- Yeah, are they saying nice things?

- No, you can tell though that their emotions,

they say angry, they are like sounding angry

or sounding like frustrated.

So you just kind of like, like, you're not,

it's not like I'm afraid or I'm like,

I don't want to say like the R word.

- I think it's okay.

I think it's hard to talk about Japanese pornography

without discussing that.

'Cause like the way it's sold is different.

- Yeah, I mean, even American porn is like that.

For some reason, they really like,

like non-consensual, consensual sex.

Like it's so strange to me, but yeah,

They just want you to look innocent.

That's what gives off the innocent vibes

is when you don't want it for some reason.

Like you can't be innocent and want to have sex.

- Yeah, it's like in my porn I find

when a girl does her first teens, she's normally nervous.

- Yeah.

- And those nervous videos, they kind of sell better.

- Well, the thing is is like,

this is how it's portrayed.

Innocent young girl doesn't know if she wants it or not,

But then she loves it and she's crazy nympho in the middle.

Like it's somewhere in the middle of that video.

She's going crazy.

- Okay, so it's like there's a story during the sex.

- That's the aesthetic, everyone likes that.

It's like you're nervous at first,

but obviously you get to enjoy it.

I feel like that's what everyone searches for anyways online.

- Yeah.

- No one wants to watch a video.

I mean, I shouldn't say no one,

but no one wants to watch a video of a girl

literally not enjoying it the entire time.

don't think I don't like that no I'm sure someone has that fetish but I think

it's not common I think those people are you must have some problems if you'd

never want to see the girl enjoy it yeah but I find it interesting I find like in

our industry there's like a lot of pressure from visa in MasterCard on what

we can actually do in porn and I feel like the Japanese don't get the same

pressure and I think maybe they're more open-minded there or just what because

like when I see Japanese titles they use the word rape in the title well and they

have a lot of like more extreme porn that's just and they just embrace it you

know it's a fantasy it's not real because I think that they view porn stars

there especially ones that are out of the country like Mia Malkova and I guess

meet now, they just view us more as like celebrity figures.

They don't view us as porn stars.

Even girls, like I had a fan meet and greet

and there was a girl there and she was so excited

to meet me and take pictures with me

and take pictures of me.

And I gave her, like we took Polaroid pictures together

and I added her on Instagram and we chat sometimes.

Oh my God, she'd die if she saw this.

(laughing)

But yeah, it was just,

girls are viewed differently there.

I feel like in America, people, even the people that watch porn, view us as objects or not

human.

They are dehumanized us a little bit.

They don't view us as celebrities.

In Japan, they view you as a celebrity.

It's weird, but yeah, I appreciate it a little bit more, I think.

They treat me like a princess.

All my fans call me princess.

They love me and I feel very loved and wanted by them and it's just like very different

vibes.

In Japan, they're not pushy, they don't ask for things.

They just want you to be happy and want to see your films.

In America, they're like, "You do anal.

When you do anal, do anal, do anal, do anal."

Like-- - It's very different.

- Calm down.

They're very demanding.

- And that's interesting because one of the stereotypes

of Japanese society is that it's, say, more sexist.

And so you would expect it to maybe be the other way around.

- No, I don't know.

I haven't really experienced that,

but people there are generally very kind to me.

Well, also, here's another example.

I went to the spa, it's called La Croix Spa,

and it's very fancy and it's very open.

There's a woman's side and a man's side

and a combined side.

So on the woman's side, you can be completely naked.

And I'm pretty sure I was the only Caucasian woman there.

And everyone just kept staring at me the whole time,

the whole time.

And mind you, I was like not like as fit as I am now either.

I was just like a little bit more chunky

and like maybe 135 pounds, I'm like 111 now.

And so I was just like, are they staring at me?

Do they think I'm chunky?

Because everyone there is so small.

I felt very big compared to them.

But no, like a woman and her mother

or grandmother came up to me and she was like,

oh, I'm so sorry to bother you.

We're all completely naked, mind you.

Like I'm like, oh my God, this old lady.

And she's like, I'm sorry, my mother doesn't speak English

but she wanted me to tell you

you have such beautiful white skin.

And I was just like, thank you.

But I just feel like everyone there just thinks

I'm just this white fairy princess girl

and they treat me differently because of it, I don't know.

I also don't have any tattoos besides the ones

on my fingers, so I had to hide them.

But I think that's another reason too,

the fact that I'm an American girl

with blonde hair and blue eyes and I'm very pale.

I do not tan, I'm very Polish.

And I don't have tattoos, so they just view me

is like a princess or something.

Like they're like, "Oh, she's perfect."

And I'm like, "Ah, I just got here."

- Yeah, I've been like binging on Japanese porn all week.

I see a lot of curvy Japanese girls.

- Oh, I'm seeing that too, like big-breasted girls.

And I'm like, "Okay."

- Yeah, like really curvy and like curvy

than anything we have in porn.

- Yeah, that's why I was surprised

when I started getting like a little more famous

from their Japanese videos anyways and in Asia in general

because I always viewed myself as like a little bit

chunkier than the other girls.

Not that I didn't get to work with other girls

while I was there either time.

I just did boy girl.

- But you're not chunky at all.

- No, thank you.

But viewing the girls and like the videos

that they were giving me examples of to show me

or like pictures that were hanging up in their offices

and photo books and everything.

the girls just all looked very small.

So I was assuming, okay, I'm coming here to work, nice.

I didn't expect to blow up the way that I did.

I didn't think I'd be like the preferred

like type of model that they'd like.

I don't know.

It was shocking.

- You have like a kind of anime face though, I think.

- Oh yeah.

Speaking of that, a ego.

We should discuss that. - Yeah, you're good at it.

Yeah, what?

- Well, in America,

It's mostly also the American girls

that have something to say about this

that aren't even Asian to have a say in it,

but they're always like,

"Girls that do a ego are racist and blah, blah, blah."

- Is it?

I never heard that.

It's racist.

- No, it's a big deal.

Some girls even will unfollow you if you do it.

I've seen a lot of drama online about it.

One girl was posting it and I know another girl

didn't @ her but called her out

and was like talking crap and you know,

they're just like, that's racist.

You can't do that.

That's not your culture.

You're appropriating your,

that's like only Asian girls can do that.

But when I went there, I don't,

they asked me to do it.

They asked me to do it.

- Yeah, and it's an anime trope.

Anime doesn't have a race, does it?

- I don't want to like make anyone mad at me,

but the company, the whole company of like over 50,

there's over 50 people in that company.

They all loved it and they all asked me to keep doing it,

keep doing it, and all my fans love it,

all my fans are Asian, so if they had a problem with it,

they would come to me.

Not a single person has come up to me

and told me that I'm wrong for doing it.

But I've seen, like, you know what I mean?

No one's come for me personally,

'cause I'm a good person with good intentions,

and I would stop if I was asked to,

you know what I mean?

- I mean, is cultural appropriation racist?

Isn't it just something that makes life better?

- I work kimono in a scene.

- And Japanese people wear suits.

Is that like them being?

- Well, that's a little different, but like,

I mean, for a scene, like, you know,

if a white girl wore a hijab.

- But they do.

- That's a little fucked up.

- It is, but.

- But when I'm indulging,

when I'm respectfully trying to accept their culture

and like be a part of it and understand it

and they gift me a kimono,

that's not me appropriating their culture,

that's me, what's the word I'm looking for?

I'm just either including me in their culture

or something, I can't remember the word.

- Yeah, I don't know, it's like,

I just find it's like cultural appropriation,

Where do you draw the line? It's being disrespectful and using it in a way that isn't

Yeah, maybe if you're like using like stereotypes to mock the culture. Yeah mocking. Yeah being disrespectful in that way, but

Anything that I did I was extremely respectful. I taught we we kept the kimono like very traditional like the same

you know what I mean, like I did everything I could to just

fit not fit in but like

do what they asked of me and you know, I don't know.

I don't know how else to put it.

I just was doing my best.

- Yeah, I mean, that's new to me.

I'm usually like quite sensitive to these kinds of things,

but I didn't realize that copying an anime face was.

- It's more like, there's so much that goes into it,

but I guess it's like a ego is more like

when a girl is like either enjoying herself too much

or she's being raped or something.

Like I read ways too much about this.

It's all like all mixing together in my brain.

- So it's more than just like

that particular facial expression.

- Yeah, there's like stories behind it and everything.

So, but.

- So do you actually have to do it during the filming?

- I've been asked and I also, even here,

I've only done three scenes since I've been here,

but the last day, no.

The second day of work, I had just, to be funny,

I did the face, and usually in America,

they go, "Don't make that face."

Like, they'll ask you not to because they don't like it,

they think it's not cute,

but the director that I just worked with now

was like, kept asking.

Once I did it once, he was like, "Keep doing it,

keep doing it, keep doing it."

And I'm like, "Okay."

Like, this is too much.

And he'd kept showing me, he's like, "Look, look."

I'm like, "Okay."

because my eyes, they don't cross like normal people's eyes.

Like one eye doesn't go all the way in.

So I don't know.

I always think it looks funny.

- Yeah, I just thought it was like just a,

like a meme that just came from anime.

I didn't realize it was actually part of the porn culture.

- Yeah, it goes, there's so much that goes into it

and everything.

So difficult for me to discuss

because I don't wanna offend anyone,

but most of the time the people that it offends

are the people that aren't even affected by it at all.

So it's interesting to me.

- I feel like there's a lot of,

like with Japanese porn,

they go into much more detail than we do in the West.

And the West it's like,

there'll be milf porn and foot fetish,

but there they'll get really, really specific

with their fetishes.

- Give me an example.

- Like the absolute zone,

like for the, which is like the area

from where it's the skin showing below the skirt

and from where like to say the socks end

and they have like a whole, it's a fetish,

just the amount of skin.

- Oh.

- And they have like a whole science of like

how much skin should be showing

from where the stockings or socks end

to where the skirt begins for what should be sexiest.

And they take it so, so far, you know.

- I think like they're perfectionists for sure.

- Yeah, perfectionists.

- Their sets, their dialogue and everything in general,

but they don't wanna push it because,

or at least for me, they weren't trying to push it

to be extremely perfect on everything

because we were working so long.

I would have to get up at,

I would personally have to wake up at 5 a.m. or 6 a.m.

to be ready to leave by seven.

So maybe 5.30 because I need time to shower

and wash my hair and blow dry my hair.

I bet they were all like waking up looking fresh and you're like, oh, why am I awake?

Yeah.

And then we'd be working all day and I wouldn't go to bed and go to sleep until midnight.

I would get maybe back to my hotel around 11 o'clock every night.

Yeah.

It's an intense day.

Days.

I would work three days in a row and then break three days in a row break.

Yeah.

And that's just normal for them.

At least the company that I was working with, they're the second company, um,

Japorn.com or Japorn Kingdom.

I worked with them, I was supposed to leave.

There's a whole nother story with that.

I was supposed to leave.

I was supposed to work with them for like a week,

but I had to leave early because of COVID.

And they told me, oh, they work very crazy.

They work very, very long days.

But if you come and you work with us,

what like you were supposed to,

We only do maybe one or two scenes a day, maybe two.

And like, yeah, they're more chill.

So I didn't get to experience working with them in Japan,

although that is the company that I spoke about earlier

that comes to America to work with us.

And they shoot like more combined,

like American and also Japan style.

- Yeah, yeah.

- They are very slow with their stuff

and like they take their time to film it.

And it still is good quality and still looks good and they provide the outfits and everything

And they have scripts and they're very well thought out but it is takes more time for them to film

And you just get one film a day. That's good

Yeah that I mean, so if I come back to japan, I'm probably going to um come back with him

I haven't spoken to momo in a while

so, um, i've already been planning this trip to japan since covet happened because

while I was in Japan the last time he told me,

"Oh, I feel very bad that you have to leave."

They were all so excited to work with me.

His whole company also was treating me like a princess.

They were all so excited to meet me

and take selfies with me and work with me and everything.

But he's like,

"I promise we will bring you back to finish your trip."

You know, you will come back.

And we've been talking about this for years.

So now that the borders are finally opening,

we're trying to like get something set up,

get a work visa, all that good stuff.

So we'll see.

- Yeah, meet your fans.

- Oh, that also, yeah, we're thinking about a tour

of Thailand, Taiwan, maybe.

- Like a real celebrity.

- And South Korea.

- Wow, it's so different.

- Yeah, just fan meet and greet, so not working,

not filming, but like just fan meet.

- What happens at a fan meet and greet?

- So the first one that I went to in Japan,

it was, they were selling tickets.

- Is it like AVN or something?

Or is it just for you?

- Just for me, just for me.

- Wow.

- And they were selling tickets.

And I don't know for how long they were selling tickets for.

I'm assuming over a month or two,

they were selling the tickets.

And there was like tiers to the tickets.

Tier one was you just get to come in and meet me.

And like, not meet me, but like, look at me.

Like I'm sitting there and I'm talking,

introducing myself.

I can't remember like specifically what each tier did,

but then I know either the first one or the second one,

I signed autographs for people.

They would come in a line and I'd sign autographs.

But then the first group would have to leave.

Like that's all that you get.

And then the next tier would get,

obviously each ticket costs more the more you get to do,

but because of COVID, they couldn't touch me.

Like usually they can put your arm around you.

- Okay, yeah.

- Or like maybe get a kiss on the cheek for a photo

or something very chill.

But they couldn't touch me at all,

even though they paid for that ticket.

So yeah, this-

- How many people would attend for a-

- I have like a little video clip of it.

I can show you.

there was maybe like a hundred or so.

This is like, it's not a very good video,

but like this, I tried to zoom in on my like thing.

There's like, yeah, this is zoomed in.

It was like people all going back

and then these people would have to leave

so that the next people could come in.

And there was like security and I'm in the back room

and no one can see me 'cause they would start freaking out.

- And do you like do a talk or some kind of show?

- Yeah, I would, I mean, I would talk, I would sign stuff.

most people brought me like gifts.

I got to like, there was posters of me.

This is like, you can see this from the street.

Like people are walking and it's a huge,

like me standing next to it, I'm like tiny as heck.

So I was like, this is crazy.

And then there was more posters.

I had all my DVDs.

Oh, these are all the gifts that I got.

All that, I got bath bombs.

Look at all those bath bombs someone got me.

Papuya hello, I love you.

I know he watches all my stuff.

But literally so many gifts, it's so thoughtful.

- It's just such a different porn culture.

- I know, they literally view you as a celebrity.

It's very cool to me.

- It's really cool.

- I love it.

- Yeah, we should embrace that here, I think.

- Everywhere. - Yeah.

I mean, we're human beings just like everyone else.

We shouldn't be viewed as like,

no matter how many times a porn star will post on Twitter,

use me, use me, or like, you know,

like the sexy shit that we post or like,

oh, I'm just here to get,

I want you to just use my pussy or something.

Like even though we portray that, that we're objects,

we don't really want you to view us as objects.

- Yeah, that's just the fantasy.

- That's just the fantasy.

That's just, you know,

We're the same as everyone else.

That's what I always tell everyone,

especially people that are super excited to meet me.

Sometimes I have to tell them like,

I'm just a normal girl.

You know what I mean?

- I'm just like you.

You're just like me.

I just have sex on the internet.

- Yeah. I remember when I first started in porn,

I guess as a guy going in,

I watched porn and obviously had my favorite porn stars.

And then I had to work with people I'd seen online

and it was hard at first just to go,

oh yeah, it's just people.

'Cause at first I was like, holy shit,

I'm meeting this person today.

- And everyone has their good and bad qualities too.

So it's not just like, you know,

when you have a celebrity crush

or maybe not a celebrity crush,

but like just a celebrity that you highly view.

- It's so disappointing to meet a celebrity.

- Sometimes, sometimes like you just have this whole idea

who they are in your head.

That's why on my social media,

I try to be as raw as possible.

Like I don't hold back because I don't want someone

to meet me and be taken aback by how I am.

Like if I'm sad, I'll post on social media that I'm sad.

I'm not having a very good day.

But, or if I'm upset, I will maybe not explain

into detail why I'm upset, but I'll be like,

I am not having a good day.

this person was so rude to me or something like that.

I just am very open about what's going on in my life

for the most part.

- Yeah, your social media is really fun

and feels like a real person.

- Yeah. - It's not like,

just buy my video.

- I try not to force anything obviously,

like advertisements for only fans and stuff.

You have to kind of put on a little persona.

If you're not horny, no one can be horny 24/7.

Although there are people out there that would say otherwise

about me that I am always horny.

But there are times obviously that I'm just like,

okay, yeah, I'll post, like, I'm so wet right now.

And I'm just like laying in bed, like eating potato chips.

(laughing)

- Yeah.

- But that's just like how it is.

It's just how porn is.

Or like I'll schedule posts when I am feeling horny

so that when I'm not, it's there.

But although like no, like the past year,

I've just been in a ridiculous state of horny, so...

- You did the voice as well, so...

- Yeah.

- We know.

- Yeah.

- And I've got a question about male performers in Japan.

Like, are there any Japanese male porn stars?

Because...

- Yeah.

- Like, with Western porn, you see like, you know,

DVDs dedicated to the men as well as the women.

- Well...

- What were the men like to work within Japan?

- Oh my gosh.

There was this really cute guy.

Oh my gosh, I loved him so much.

The first time that we worked together,

it was very funny to me because the whole day,

we filmed it backwards, the film backwards.

'Cause it was like a whole DVD set

and there was multiple scenes for it.

And basically I was his wife

and our business wasn't doing well

and he was prostituting me or something.

You know what I mean?

Like, you know, 'cause we owned a hotel.

- Nice work.

- And he's like, okay, well, we have to keep our customers

happy so you know we have to keep business booming and it sounds more

creative than the plots we get in Western porn yes oh can we pause for

something yeah sure sorry I had to go pee I drink so male stars there was one

that you really liked oh yes okay thank you because I have ADHD or something you

- You just have excitement.

- Yes, and also coffee, like shaking from coffee too much.

The guy that I really liked, we did that scene backwards,

right, so all day long he had to watch me get fucked by

two other talents, like I did like three scenes with them.

And it was so funny, like his whole thing was that he was

like keeping an eye on me to make sure I'm doing my job

and doing a good job.

- Even in the scene he had to watch.

- It's been so frustrating.

- Yes, and then at the end, he didn't even get to fuck me.

He only got a blow job.

So we all were making fun of like, oh, poor guy.

It's the very end of the day.

It's so dark out.

You finally get to like do something.

And it was just a joke.

It was like the joke of the day or something.

It was very funny.

- Yeah, the reason I asked was because

when I was, I've been binging on Japanese porn

and I felt, yeah, I didn't see many male actors.

I felt like- - This is why.

Oh, this is also another reason

before I lose that shame out as well.

The, that talent specifically, or no, not that one,

a different one that I'm thinking of.

I remember him telling me,

this is the only reason I remember is 'cause he gave me

a sticker with his face on it,

because he's like an actor in Japan, he's mainstream.

- Really? - Yeah, so.

- You can do mainstream and porn in Japan?

- Because most of the time, if you notice,

they blur the male's face.

Almost in almost all of my videos,

they don't show the guy's face.

- I guess they didn't really notice.

- Yeah.

- But yeah, they often blow the face.

- And the director also for the company

that I was working with the first time,

he works in mainstream production.

He's a mainstream director.

- Yeah, you don't get that.

- And I was just also being told like

he was going more away from porn to do mainstream acting

or directing and so, but he was also my talent

for most of my stuff, the really skinny guy.

And his face was blurred in like everything.

So I'm just assuming that either the people

that do the porn do it for the money

and also they don't want to be known.

That's why they're not made about them.

And in Japan, it's they don't care about the guy.

Like there's not, I don't really think

There are many gay men in Japan, I don't know.

But like in my view of their porn,

whenever I go into a porn shop

and I went to many porn shops to like look at my DVDs

on display and everything,

I didn't see many of that is all focused on girls.

- Yeah, maybe they have different shops for the gay porn.

'Cause I think it is a big thing there.

- Oh, okay.

Well, I'm not sure, but I didn't do any girl girl scenes

there. - That's the thing

that's unusual is there's not many less,

not much lesbian porn I saw.

even in a threesome, the girls don't seem to interact

with the other girls.

- Yeah.

- Which was unusual.

And the thing I noticed about the guys is,

it seemed like they were just normal guys off the street

in a lot of the videos.

- Oh, especially mine, yeah, but that's off the stage.

- Are they stage, right?

- Yeah, obviously.

- It seems like there's a lot of guys off the,

'cause I'm like, I didn't see that the same guy twice.

- I mean, I remember, well, no, they reuse,

I mean, how many people did I work with there?

- Maybe six or seven male talents.

But for the most part, we'd use the same ones,

especially in one day, one work day,

I'd be working with the same male talent.

- Okay, yeah, I even saw one genre

which was called like a fan appreciation day.

And I don't know if you did one of those,

I didn't see one.

- I don't think it was a fan,

but I do remember them giving me a GoPro

and we were acting like I'm just vlogging

and I'm like, I'm walking the streets of Japan

and I'm gonna find some men to fuck.

And then I'm like, they would have their assistants

be walking down the street like a normal person

and I'd walk up to them and I'm like,

hi, blah, blah, blah, I talked to them.

They had me say some phrases in Japanese.

What was it?

I don't remember how to pronounce it, but like basically,

"Oh, can I go home with you?

What are you doing?

Like, can I, can we hang out?"

Or something like that.

And they would go, "Oh, no, no."

To make it seem like when I do walk up to someone

that it's legit, like, "Oh, like people are rejecting me,

right?"

But it's just their assistance and stuff.

It's not real people.

So that was what made it look so realistic.

I thought that interesting.

- It does look a lot more real.

I don't know if some of them I'm thinking,

are they real? Because one of the genres I saw was this fan appreciation day and it seems like

there's two ways they do it. One is like they get them all together and it's like a kind of gangbang

but with fans and I'm not sure if it's real or not like are these guys probably not right?

I was hoping not. I didn't do a gimbal or blowbang or anything so.

Because it's so many guys and they just look like normal guys off the street they're not like they

They don't have any like they're not fit or anything.

- Yeah.

- I'd say maybe like through,

I don't know how the second company that I worked with,

their talents weren't like fit.

I don't think they care about that kind of stuff there

because.

- It can be a benefit.

Like if the guy is quite ugly,

it can make the girl look more beautiful.

And it's also like.

- Yes, yes, yes.

That's exactly it.

Because they want it to feel like,

Like this could be you, like you could be this like,

and the more an American film,

they want the male talent to look more like

a specific type of person and like specific dick size

just for the aesthetic of the video.

But honestly, I feel like I'd do better with like

chunkier men, like bigger men, like not,

like very average men because

- They do it. - That's the type of people

that we have in America.

Like not everyone's dick is like eight inches long

Like not everyone has a fucking pack of abs, you know?

So, I mean, you can like imagine yourself

as that person fucking me or them.

- Well, that's the fantasy, isn't it?

That you think, oh my God, if he can do it, maybe I can.

- Yeah, like, or like you can pretend like that's you

in the video or something like that.

- Yeah, even in Western porn,

I think the guys that are popular,

they're either very good looking

or they're like the opposite.

Like there's a few guys that like, like Jordy, for example,

where he looks like a young boy

and they always pair him with a mouth.

- Is that the redhead?

- The Spanish guy, he's like, he's huge.

He's got like 4 million YouTube followers or something.

- I will have to do some research.

- You'll probably work with him while you're here, I'm sure.

But he's a really cool guy.

He looks like a young boy.

- Well, I refuse to work with anyone

that looks younger than me actually.

I mean, besides girls, girls don't really count

because like we're all--

- They normally put him with a milf

'cause it's that contrast, you know?

So they probably wouldn't pair him with someone young.

- Well, I was asked by a company to work with this guy,

this little like little redhead guy,

I'm not gonna name names, but like,

I couldn't do it 'cause when he looked 14

and that felt really wrong.

And I honestly, I can't force myself to work with people

I don't find conventionally attractive

and at least a little bit.

I mean, obviously I have worked with people

that I don't find that attractive

for the sake of like the video

and I'm not gonna be rude.

I'm not gonna, you know, you know,

I'm not gonna be like that.

But lately I'm starting to get a little more picky

about who I work with.

I have more say on who I work with

'cause I don't have an agency.

But in Japan, I would never ever ever say I'm not working with this person. They're ugly. I would never say that ever

Because they're mostly like older men also so yeah, I noticed that as well

It seems like a lot of young boys they seem to have this like kind of virgin boy fantasy

Yeah, or just like normal like random man off the street. Yeah, that's what I noticed. Yeah

So that was the vibe though. That's what we were there to do. So i'm like, okay, I understand

this is for the film. Do you think we should be copying anything from Japan? I

think that... Do you hear or in America? Um either, you know. Hmm I think that so far

since I've been here I've only worked with one company and they treat me very

respectfully and very kind but I know from a friend who's been working here

that she told me most companies do they will not they're not as nice they're not

as accommodating as American companies.

And obviously she's never worked in Japan,

so she doesn't know how accommodating they are in Japan.

- Yeah.

- That they treat you like literally a goddess.

So for me to hear that, I'm like,

oh wow, they don't even treat you as good

as they do in America here?

Like, okay. - In America,

they treat people pretty well, right?

- For the most part, like they treat like a human being.

Maybe not like a goddess,

but they do have to be nice to you

or else obviously it's not gonna be a good workday

if they're not treating you like,

"Oh, do you need water?

"Oh, do you need this?

"Do you need a douche?

"Do you need that?"

- Yeah.

I think in New York,

we just haven't had our me too moment yet.

- I just- - Whereas in America.

- Yeah, but also in America and here,

I just think what we should learn is

the nicer you treat your talents,

the better the scene will end up.

If you treat every single girl,

no matter what attitude they have,

no matter what mood they're in,

if you just treat them with decent respect

and literally the bare minimum is literally treat her

like a princess honestly because at this point in time,

I know that I've gone to set and I was made to feel

a little dumb or a little like--

- That's not nice.

- Yeah, you know what I mean?

I'm not stupid or you shouldn't treat me like this.

And also here, I'm not gonna name names either,

but I know that there was a company

that denied my friend of work.

She showed up to set and they said,

"Oh, I didn't realize you were so large, so overweight,"

or some word like that.

And he canceled the scene on her right then and there

and said, "I'm sorry, we can't do this."

And she was very upset.

- It's not a nice thing to say.

- And when she mentioned something to someone,

he, her agent, the agent told him

that was kind of rude of you.

And his apology, he's like,

I'm so sorry for upsetting you.

I didn't think it would hurt your feelings.

I just didn't realize how overweight you were.

He didn't even apologize. - Like he didn't have

Google?

- No, he didn't even apologize.

And like, honestly, it was none of like,

just the way that you speak to people.

Just yeah, maybe think a little bit first.

- Yeah, like from a producer's point of view,

I've definitely had it where I booked models

and everyone's told me,

Oh, you're gonna have a horrible time.

She's such a bitch.

And then I've met them and it's like, they've been great.

And I think I've never like, you know, I'm just.

- Yeah, and she's a great performer too.

So I mean, anyways, like in Japan,

in Japan, they just, no matter who you are,

if you're working with them,

they would never disrespect you.

And if they accidentally disrespect you,

they would do anything to make it up to you and apologize.

And when that would never happen anyways,

they would never think to disrespect you in that sort of way because no, they just want

you to feel like a goddess, they want you to feel that way.

That's good and everyone should want to feel like that on set.

Although like had they not treated me like that, I'm going to be completely honest, I

would have probably quit porn altogether because I was, the first time I went, came home, I

was exhausted.

Second time that I went, I came back,

I went the first time in 2019 in October.

Second time I went, I went right before COVID hit.

And I was there when COVID hit in like March, February,

or March and did, yeah, just March.

And honestly, I was so overworked and exhausted

that I was this close to quitting porn,

I had to take a break.

Why would it be like quit porn completely?

Because-

He wouldn't be just focused on America and stuff?

I think it emotionally drained me as a person.

I don't know how to explain it to you, but like, I was not used to that work at

all. And don't get me wrong. I am so grateful for having been worked there.

So grateful for that.

I'm grateful for like the fans that it brought me and the, and the eye-opening

experiences I got to have while I was there.

But at the same time, a person can only go through so much

before they've had enough.

And to work three to four scenes a day and to,

it wasn't even that really truly.

I think it was more so the fact that I had no sleep.

I was running on like maybe four to five hours

of sleep every night.

I was also going through other things while I was there too.

Like I was being scammed by a man who was,

It was part of a big scam ring.

There's lots of girls involved that were,

- What did they do? - Should I say names?

- You can if you have evidence.

You can't if you don't.

- Well, a girl who used to be my best friend,

- America. - This is how we met.

Yes, this is how we met.

She saw me in Japan and maybe she didn't see I was in Japan

until we started talking, but she reached out to me

probably a few other girls also and like sent us like a copy paste looking message about

There's this very wealthy man

um, and if you're interested he said that he'd like to FaceTime you or Skype you and

Do like Skype calls to each other

For money like you know like a cam show and I have only cammed so many times and I'm like this sounds cool

But the number that she was giving me was such an outrageous number and remember I'm in Japan right now working. Yeah

so

I'm text. I'm texting this guy and he's asking me to do all these crazy things on camera for him

So imagine I'm working all day

These scenes in Japan then I go back to my hotel around 11 o'clock

He wants to talk to me and I'm on Skype with him for an hour or two still

Then even less so sleep. So for three nights, I remember I was Skyping him and

He was asking me to like do really disgusting things

Like I've never thrown up

Well sucking dick before but he I don't know how I got myself to do it because I've never done it before

I was shocked at myself that I like literally threw up on a dildo like for him and like slapped myself and

said some really

inappropriate things for him, like something like,

like about rape and stuff, you know.

And he never gave me money.

He never gave me money.

And he was also asking me to ask other girls,

oh, can you ask this girl?

Tell them that if you get other girls to talk to me,

I'll give you more money.

I'll send you more money.

- It's such an insane coincidence because less--

- Thousands of dollars.

- Last night I was with one of my friends and she said,

Oh, like would you look at this for me?

Because, and it was a fellow performer

had recommended to her, oh, this guy is a billionaire.

And he's gonna pay you like 30,000 or 50,000 euros a month.

And she trusted it. - Yes, that's exactly it.

It's probably the same person, I swear to God,

'cause he was still doing this.

- And she trusted it because it came from a friend.

And the person's, and then I'm like, look.

That's why I thought it was legit because she was famous.

We weren't friends at the time.

She was just a very well-known person.

And then she was like,

this person's talking to this person.

And then she promised me he did give me this money.

And she looked like a very wealthy person.

So I'm like, okay.

- That's the sort of thing.

This person said, yeah, like he's paid me.

- And that's a lie.

- And when we, so he said, okay,

can you send us the information, your bank statement?

You know? - Yeah.

And then it started to get shadier, but then what we realized is that this guy's girlfriend,

she's been doing this for two weeks and they just realized like they're not going to get

the money.

Yep.

And okay, they tried to recommend it to my friend as well.

But basically, long story short, it's a scam.

Never do anything without getting paid first.

That's where I learned the lesson.

But then, so going back to what we were saying before, I was just so exhausted from the work

and the net and I had no sleep.

And although they were giving, they took me to the great Buddha.

I loved that so much.

I got to see shrines.

I cried at almost every shrine that I went to.

I was very respectful.

We did, we prayed.

We, you know, put the coin in the thing and went like this or like put the candle, you

know, light incense for the Buddha.

anything that you can think of we were doing.

I even went to a spa each time that I was there,

the La Croix spa, which, ah, never forget that.

- So they really looked after you.

It wasn't just all work, you got to have lots of fun.

- I still felt, no matter what they were doing for me,

I still felt so exhausted and overworked.

And towards the end of my trip,

I'm a very bubbly, happy person, almost always.

Even if I'm not feeling that way,

especially if I'm on set,

you will never know that I'm upset.

But it was starting to get extremely difficult

for me to hold up this image of me

because I just wanted to be grumpy.

I wanted to be like, I was very emotional.

I'm a very emotional person anyways.

I cry about everything, whether I'm happy or sad,

I will cry.

So they already know I'm like a little crybaby princess.

But like towards the end,

I was just not feeling like myself at all.

If I'm running very low on sleep, I'm not the same person as I am.

My, my mentality is well warped.

And that's the thing, like, I think people in porn when they're first starting,

they're usually very young and maybe like don't have the confidence to say,

look, I need a break.

Like, no, yeah.

And even if I, even if I, they don't understand the concept of a break.

Also, uh, they didn't have to let me, the second time that I went,

I remember I had to tell them the first three days

that I was there 'cause I was going through withdrawals.

I was so ill, so ill, so violently ill

that I couldn't even get up.

I was like the third day that I was there,

I even went to set and I'm like, okay, I can do this

and I couldn't get out of the bed.

I can't explain to you or describe the way that I felt.

I kind of forget by now how I felt.

All I remember is that it was very difficult

three first days for me.

I always find flying east is the jet lag's way worse.

It's not even that. It was just, it was just, uh.

With the weed too.

Yeah, the weed was the worst. But also, uh, the story that I told you that we would talk about

this random, I, you haven't heard about this yet, but the second time I went, I landed. And remember,

I put on that outfit and they told me don't dress like this next time. So I had on, uh,

As soon as I got off the plane out of the border and everything border control whatever I

Open my suitcase. I set my phone down next to me like right here

You know imagine it's there on a chair

And I'm going over here going through my luggage looking for a cute outfit to wear because I'm wearing sweatpants and whatever

I want to look nice when they come to pick me up and they told me oh, I'm so sorry

You landed a little you land quite early. We're not anywhere near the airport right now, but we'll be there soon

I'm like great. I have time I can get ready

And I already had my makeup done because I did it on the plane because I had so much time and

I'm packing I find an outfit. I pack all my stuff up and I'm headed to the bathroom. I

Somewhere in between the time it took me to put on my clothes and leave the restroom. I'm realizing shit shit shit

Where the fuck is my phone? Mm-hmm. Where the fuck is my phone?

I'm freaking out at this point also because I'm in a country that I'm not completely familiar with

I've only been once and the people are coming to pick me up. How are they gonna find me? I'm like, okay

I'm just rummaging through all my stuff. It's nowhere to be found at all and

then

I'm freaking out. I feel so naked around a phone

Is never backed up still to this day. I don't back it up. Don't ask me why

we'll get it and we'll talk about that another day, but

Literally, I was freaking out. I had a second phone, so but it didn't have service and it didn't have every all the information that this one

Does this the other one was like my old phone and it doesn't work really well

It doesn't hold a charge or anything. So I'm freaking out and

The people meet me I guess they were just walking around looking for me. I can't remember how I found them

I think they just stumbled upon me there and I'm freaking out crying that I lost it

we go over to the help desk and tell them and

They let me use their phone to call my ex my my ex-boyfriend who I was with for a very long time

um

And I tell him

John John I lost my phone

Please help me find it and he's like I have find your iPhone. Mm-hmm. It has to be somewhere in the airport

Maybe it's in your suitcase. Go look in your suitcase again

Then he's like, oh my god

melody

It's not at the airport. I'm like, what do you mean? It's not at the airport. I just had it

I was just talking to them and he's like it's on a train

And I'm like, you mean it's on a train and I just got to Japan

This is not a very good first like day for my trip. I was going through withdrawals

I had already thrown up on the plane on the way down from the withdrawals because like that's how often I smoked in Japan

It's such a famously safe country as well. You don't expect it there. And this is the craziest story of my life

I'll never forget this honestly.

This is the first time I'm talking about this online.

This was kind of exciting for me

because I've been wanting to make a YouTube video about this.

Just this alone,

because it was like literally felt like I was in a movie.

So I remember I'm wearing this really cute blue dress

and high heels.

And as soon as he tells that to me,

I'm like, "Where's the train?"

Right, right?

We're tracking it.

It's moving.

It's on the fucking move.

It's going.

Then I'm freaking out and it's been an hour already

that we've been looking for the phone.

So an hour has passed, we're like, fuck, we're never going to find it.

And they're like the train to get on the train, you go over there and we get on

the train and we're following this guy for like an hour, we're following him.

And for some reason he just stops.

And I'm thinking, cause I'm, we're doing the ring iPhone ring iPhone.

And I'm thinking to myself, he's going to turn the phone off and he

doesn't turn the phone off.

Fucking idiot.

And, and I also, if you know what tiles are, when you press it, it goes off.

So when you hit ring on your iPhone, if they hit the power button it turns the sound off, but tile you have to unlock the phone for the sound to stop.

So after an hour we get to the spot where it's like it's been stopped for 15 minutes.

We're like okay he had to like tossed the phone or something or like left it there or something.

And we get to the spot and there's like four people.

I'm on one side of the tracks. There are people on the other.

The tracks are like really high above the ground so it's not like you can cross over jump over you have to go down the stairs and up the other stairs to get to the other side.

So I'm like screaming at these people.

Is there a phone over there? Can you and none of them speak English.

So they don't know what I'm talking about. I'm like bone bone. Do you see phone see phone anyone?

There's only four people and everyone's like they look suspicious to me all that looks suspicious to me and one man looked extremely suspicious.

So I'm pointing at him, I'm like, "You, you fucker,

you fucking have my fucking phone, fuck you."

- Like how imagine you angry?

- No, I was so mad.

I was like shaking, I'm wearing high heels.

We were running, fucking chasing.

I look like a movie star, honestly.

I look like I was in a movie.

And they were all very confused.

Some of the woman was helping,

the woman was like literally looking,

she's like, "No phone."

The man that I was accusing was also helping look.

It was not him, I felt bad for yelling at him.

and they probably didn't even know it was happening.

Then the one guy that didn't look suspicious at all,

I'm holding my tile as close to them as possible.

Like I'm like leaning over the railing

and I'm like pressing it, I'm pressing it, I'm pressing it.

And the guy, I hear my phone.

I'm like, is it on the ground?

Look on the ground, you idiot.

And he starts laughing.

And then he pulls my phone out of his bag

and starts laughing and waving at me.

And I'm like--

- He waved at you.

- I hear my phone, I hear my phone,

and he pulls it out, I'm like, you fucker,

give me my fucking phone.

And I'm like, ponytail, the guy,

the assistant or whoever he was,

I'm like, ponytail, Momo, he has my fucking phone,

it's him, it's him, it's him, get him, get him.

I'm like screaming, I'm like, please help me.

And they're running down the stairs as fast as they can,

and I didn't see it because they're downstairs

and I'm wearing heels and I'm running to the stairs

As soon as I get to the top of the stairs,

Momo comes running and he's like,

this is basically what happened.

They cornered him and he just threw the phone at him

and ran.

This is the phone in question.

- You got it.

- I did.

But as soon as that happened,

as soon as he held my phone in there,

he's like, he was smiling.

All you see is me at the very top of the stairs.

And I throw up everywhere, all over the stairs.

I was so stressed out that I threw up in that.

That is the first time that that's happened to me,

being so stressed that I literally vomit.

Like, that's never happened to me.

- At least you found your people there and the phone.

- Oh my God, it was like the craziest story

of my entire life, honestly.

It felt unreal.

- It feels so cool though when you're looking

on fine iPhone and you're chasing things.

- They said that he looked Korean.

That's the guy, 'cause I didn't know.

Oh, it's 444.

- Make a wish.

What did you wish for?

Oh, you can't tell me. - I can't tell you.

Come on, come on. - Sorry, I'm an amateur.

- But anywhoo, yeah, that was,

I mean, if I hadn't got my phone back,

I probably wouldn't have had a very good trip,

but the fact that I got it back, I was just shocked.

- I'm sure you would have done,

but it's just really, really annoying.

Beyond annoying, it's just so important part of our lives.

Yeah, and there's such like personal photos on it,

you know what I mean?

Like, and it was so weird.

I like, I had the phone case that had the clear back.

So all he did, he didn't turn my phone off.

He just took the phone case.

My phone case was basically on the other side.

- Yeah, yeah.

- Which I don't understand.

Oh no, still doesn't make sense.

I was like, maybe it was because of fingerprints,

but no, his fingerprints would have still been on the case.

So I don't know.

- Yeah.

- Very strange to me.

- But apart from that and working too hard,

good time in Japan and you're going to get back.

Yeah. It was the fact that I went and it was very eye-opening.

People that don't travel out of the United States,

I feel like have a very,

very different view of the world in general,

but as soon as you leave the United States and experience what life has to give

you in other countries and like how people live their lives and like even

different architecture and different foods,

- It's a different perspective.

It opens your eyes.

It makes you more accepting.

It makes you more welcoming.

It makes you more, and I think gives you more intelligence.

I think I'm a kinder person for it.

- I understand that.

- Yeah.

- I think it makes you appreciate your home country more too.

Like the good things there.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

I mean, I try not to view it.

Like I try not to see different countries like,

oh, I don't like this, I don't like that.

I try to only see the good in it, but definitely.

- Which is different, sis.

Like in Japan, I took away the fact that like everyone there is so helpful.

Everyone there is so kind, it doesn't matter.

I could be, obviously, I'm very Caucasian.

Everyone apart from you screaming at people for your phone back.

Yeah, I can't speak for like other ethnicities or anything.

I, but me personally, everyone there was so kind to me.

The fact that when I went to Paris, I had such a good idea of what it would be like in my head.

although because I'm American I feel like they were very rude to me and it kind of ruined my view

it kind of ruined my view of of Paris like no but they were kind to me when I started speaking

French but I only know only so many phrases like hello my name is um I like this this this but

then they start speaking fast in French and once they realize I can't understand them they're like

tourist like okay but even all the French people hate Parisians so

It's fine. So when you go to Japan again, are you going to... As soon as their borders open,

we'll start planning something I'm hoping this summer. And do you have any, is there any,

because Japan has a lot of different types of porn, is there anything specific that you're

looking forward to trying? No, not anything specific. I mostly, I love the photo shoots

that I do there. The photography is beautiful. I love everything. There are sometimes when they

edit my photos and I don't like the way that my face looks especially in the DVD covers.

They have a different aesthetic don't they?

No because there's like two DVD covers that they have me where I'm smiling in a schoolgirl skirt

and I'm like holding my... it doesn't look realistic at all. It doesn't look like a real smile or

anything so it's more like... but other than that like the photo book of me like I love the way

that the photos came out. If I could have photos like that again I would be so so so happy. Um

them helping me speak Japanese, which is like we would phonetically spell out

what they're saying. They would say it to me very very slowly and I would just write it down as I

hear it. And I'd put like hyphens and I'd like where I'd like pause or where like some like weird

thing is, you know. Are you going to try learning Japanese? I really want to, although I have

the thought process of a fish.

So it's like really hard for me to focus.

So I'm thinking when I start school,

the first language I wanna learn is Spanish.

First of all, because my family speak Spanish

and all my friends speak Spanish.

I live in California, come on.

You have to fucking speak Spanish.

It's kind of fucked up if you don't.

But I really wanna learn that first,

but then I also really want,

I was always in French in high school.

So I also really want to learn French and Japanese.

So first Spanish, then Japanese, then French.

That I would love to be bi, tri, lingual, but...

- It's a lot of work. - It is so much work.

- You're gonna be really committed.

- Yes. - I mean, I live in Hungary,

but I still don't speak Hungarian.

- I think that once I, I really want to go to college.

So once I go to college,

I will take an elective obviously for Spanish.

And if they have options for other languages,

I will also take that up.

So one thing I want to do is I want to,

as soon as you don't have a specific plan for Japan,

I want to tell you about some of the Japanese fetishes

that I found and get your thoughts on it

and see which ones you want to try.

All right, all right.

They're in a random order,

so some of them are a bit out there,

but I'm told these are common in Japanese porn.

Okay.

The first one is just called eel.

Is it more like tentacle porn?

No, it involves putting a live eel into the porn stars butthole.

Okay.

Let's just open this can of worms or eels we should say.

Can you imagine if we did that in Western porn?

I think that is animal abuse.

So 100% no.

110 percent, a thousand percent, no.

- And how, how and why is why so many whys and hows.

- That is so many whys.

Also, isn't there like,

wasn't there a girl that put a hamster up her vagina

in the video once?

- I know the anus doesn't have to be censored

in Japanese porn, only the vagina.

- Yeah.

- So I figure that's why they have a lot of fetishes

around butt stuff.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- So in eel you can show it coming out

and I guess it's alive.

So, I don't know.

That is disturbing.

I'm trying to be like be positive.

That's so disturbing.

I'm so sorry for anyone that is offended by us not like that.

You just lost your eel, Japanese fans.

I know, I just lost at least 10 fans right now.

This one I can't pronounce, it's throw-a-ture-ism.

I'm going to have to learn some English.

So it's basically a fetish about public groping.

I don't know if you've seen it, but one of the common Japanese fetishes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that.

I would have that.

Oh, it's hot.

Yes.

100%.

Cool.

Yeah.

I love that.

I love public humiliation kind of stuff also.

Like, yes.

Finger me under a table at a restaurant, please.

Or something.

Just giving us a guide to meeting you on Tinder.

Yeah.

Where's my Tinder?

Hello.

Another one is similar, it's like time stoppers.

So it's like the guy finds a magical device that stops time.

- We did that, we did that.

- You did some of that.

- We did that, yes.

- How was that?

- Wait.

Who did I do that with?

Who did I do that with?

I don't know if I can't remember if I did,

I don't think I did that in Japan.

I think I did that in America.

- Okay.

Did you just have to stand completely still?

- Yeah, you just stand still.

It was for a VR.

- Okay, yeah.

- Ah, ah, yes, wait.

Fuck, I cannot remember. I have such a horrible, horrible memory, honestly, but I know that I've done that before. It was kind of fun.

Is it hard to stay still for so long? Yeah, I think it was for VR. It was for a VR video. So it's kind of more, it's a little more difficult.

Yeah.

Um,

Another one is just a slapping fetish. Oh, I like that. It's not what you think.

So you like being slapped, I guess. I like being slapped. I also like slapping people. Okay, you're gonna love this. You should ask them for it. It's um,

It's called cat slapping and it's basically you walk down the street and you just slap random women across the face

Oh my god, I would love that. I know a lot of girls in porn that like hitting and being hit too. So that would be

Actually pretty fucking funny actually

You give me some ideas my friend

I want to get like a bunch of porn girls together in LA and just like walk the streets of LA and not tell anyone what

we're fucking doing and like hide a camera on someone and see their reactions of people.

The crazy thing is you can put it on YouTube. It's fine. I will not on no and like I know

some of my friends will be really good actresses to level like fuck. Oh my God. I'm writing

that down. That's funny. Yeah, it's literally called cat slapping. All right. Um, giving

me all the content. Yeah, I've just given you all my best ideas. And of course, tentacle

porn. I'm actually doing that in Europe. Yeah, for my friend Romero. Ahhh! His stuff is incredible.

Is it real? For me, his is like the only thing I've seen in porn that's like, at like a movie

kind of level. It's incredible. Could you put the microphone in? Oh sorry, sorry.

Yeah, so yeah the tentacle stuff, he does it really really well. I think in Japan it's not

actually as good as Romero's but they started it. He just culturally appropriated it. Yeah,

let's say that way. But I have always fantasized about that. I don't know if it'll be what I think

it is but you know what I mean? Like when you have the fantasy in your head and like when you

you actually have but it's not like I think it'll be a long day but you'll love

the result. I'm excited. The stuff he does is incredible. Oh that's gonna blow up I know that it will

because my fan I mean my Asian fans yeah you might be like his best one so far. I'm excited.

And the other one I told you before is this one called a Zetai Ryokyu which is the fascination

of knee socks and the absolute zone, that gap between the skirt and...

That's fine.

Yeah.

I mean, that's not anything crazy to me.

No, eels was my limit, I think.

Eels was, I think it should be everyone's limit.

Everything else I can watch.

I think that should be everyone's limit.

Out of animals.

Anything that has to do with animals or insects or anything.

Yeah, I don't understand why it's allowed.

I don't understand why, like, there's different rules for porn in Japan than in the West.

because Vieswie and Mastercard, they're the same company,

but they're so puritan with American porn.

Like we can't use words like rape in advertising.

- Oh no, no.

- But they can.

And it's like, why is this double standard?

- But also they don't do things like step sibling things

in Japan either.

And America does a lot of that kind of stuff.

So I feel like they just have different morals.

Not even that rules, it's like morals.

- This is coming from Vieswie and Mastercard,

not from, and that's like a global company.

- Yeah.

- These end mascar don't like step bro, step sister things.

That's like, it's becoming less and less in America

in the films, but they still try to incorporate it somehow,

but I'm like, I don't really like doing this step bro

stuff anymore 'cause it's like so overdone.

It's not even the fact that I don't enjoy it.

It's just like so overdone.

- It's boring.

- It's boring.

- It was like, it's just become like the plumber, you know?

It's like just such a cliche.

I'm like, that and schoolgirl stuff,

like what is the next trend gonna be I need to know?

- Third cousins.

- What?

- Third cousins, yeah. - Shut the fuck up.

No, I don't think so.

I think just like being super real and just being like,

"Hey, I'm Melody Marks.

I'm not playing a role, I'm not anything."

Like they just wanna see a porn star having fun

and doing her job.

- Yeah, I saw that porn where people get stuck.

I thought that was gonna blow up for a while, but it--

- I mean, it did, honestly.

It became like a meme.

- Yeah, but it went away just as fast.

Yeah, yeah, because it became a meme and it was like

Again overdone. Yeah

Someone will invent a new type of sex. Well, maybe you will not that it was overdone, but it was too cheesy like

Come on if you're gonna get stuck get stuck like the one of the girl getting stuck in the doggy door

Phenomenal that actually looked like you were fucking stuck in a doggy door when you're like leaning over under a table and you say you got

Stuck that's like I think the stuck stuff came from Japan and it was originally a stuck in the wall

Mm-hmm. And I think the way they do it it looks like it's funny. You're actually stuck. It does look like a real wall that you're stuck in

but I think that we should do more like there's this one video on Pornhub that I always watch because I love it so much

but it's like girls are in

this like

room and there's like holes in the wall and like half their bodies in one side and half their bodies

Sticking out like their legs are like chained up on a wall or something

Is that a check company that does that?

I think so

I think I know them

But I only can find one video of like all when all the girls are in the room

And I don't know what the context is behind it like they're kidnapped or what it is

But I find it hot like I would love to just be stuck in a room and like have not random men but like male talents

just

Yeah, when you work in Prague and some of the check companies are crazy

Like there's this one called I think porn family or perverse family

Oh god, and they do crazy things like one of the things I saw they buried a girl

So just I have a fear of that actually

Out of the ground. Oh hell no, and then they just like face

I'm actually terrified of that. I I'm only scared of things if I genuinely cannot escape from it

Yeah, yeah, well it's different because if you put me in a cardboard box and put a fucking rock on top of it

I if I know I can get out I'm fine, but if you duct tape it and

Like are telling me I can't get out

I will flip the fuck out if you put me in a closet and lock it

I will flip the fuck out not by choice, but because like my body can't handle like the stress

so

I'm outing myself here. Please don't use this against me

We got so much dirt on you. Yeah, I know I'm also ticklish too

I mean might as well say that

Fuck that's a fact issue. I know they did that in Japan, but they didn't tell me they were doing it

Well, no because they tricked me so well actually it was so good like the lady

She wasn't and she's just like was an extra and it was supposed to be like she was massaging me

And I genuinely didn't see it coming at all

It was supposed to be like a solo video like I thought that I was gonna start like masturbating afterwards

But she just started tickling me in the middle of the fucking massage and like they wouldn't stop and I'm like, oh my god

I'm gonna pee I'm gonna pee I'm gonna pee and they let me go but I was like, oh my I was literally going to pee myself

I am gonna have to google that scene. Yeah, I don't know where it exists. Yeah, I think a lot of them

Don't get put on the internet. Yeah, because some DVDs still sell in Japan. Yeah

Um, I think it's on a DVD like a solo DVD. Yeah, sure. We'll find it somewhere

We need to send someone to Japan. It's the same one

where I'm like licking the ice cream in the bathtub.

- I think if any of your fans are listening,

we need like a shopping list.

We need someone to send you the photo book.

- I need the photo books.

There's two photo books.

There's some magazines that I'm in.

I have like three or four magazines,

Japanese magazines that I'm on the cover of.

- We need the tickle scene.

- We need the tickle scene.

Come on.

I need all the mosaic scenes.

- Yeah.

- We need it.

So, and yeah, and I think we're about done.

- Yeah, we had a good little conversation.

Got my little train, little story out there that was--

- And you're so lively, you're like,

I'm just like, I'm like, ah.

- I know, I'm so crazy, I'm sorry.

- No, it's brilliant.

- It's the coffee speaking.

- Is there anything you wanna advertise

or tell people where to find you?

- Yes, you can find me on Twitter.

That is the main app that you can find me on

because I just love tweeting about my life

and what I'm up to all the time.

So I'm very active.

I'm the only person running my social media accounts.

And it is Melody Marks,

M-E-L-O-D-Y-M-A-R-K-S,

X-X-X, Melody Marks, X-X-X.

And then same for my OnlyFans.

I have two OnlyFans actually.

That one is my old one.

My new one is Melody Marks.

- Is the content different on the OnlyFans?

- The new OnlyFans, I was for like a month or two I had.

I posted about it also to my OnlyFans

that I was having a company help me

'cause I was going through a hard time.

But I decided my fans, I don't appreciate

being fake to my fans.

Like I don't really want someone messaging them.

And it felt very fake to me.

And so I had them stop.

And I haven't been on for a minute

because I'm trying to rebrand,

get new looks and everything new content for my fans.

I already have like three videos filmed

since I've been here for it.

So I'm waiting to release that, I have to edit them.

But let me find that really quick, we can edit this.

- Yeah, yeah, right.

- Okay, it's just Melody Marks X.

Yeah, Melody Marks X is my new one.

And yeah, and my Instagram actually,

you want to keep up with my trip because I literally love posting to my stories.

I'm sure some of my fans are quite annoyed by how often I post about coffee

and because I love cappuccinos but I post about all my adventures on there.

It's Melbabyxx, M-E-L-B-A-B-I-E-X-X. So yeah. Awesome. Yeah. And yeah thanks everyone for

listening and if you want to ask any questions you can tweet me or tweet

Melody. And yeah just please subscribe and give it five stars, share it with

friends, tell everyone about the podcast. Make some clips of this, post it to my Twitter, tag me. I would love to see little clips of this everywhere. There will be clips. Make memes. Make memes. I'm watching you. I feel like you haven't really made it in life

until you're a meme. I know I want to be a fucking meme. Yeah. God damn it. And it'll

It'll probably happen with something really random, like someone will catch you at a bad time.

No, I want to be the Riley read meme where she's like, "Oh fuck, I'm gonna blank."

And they fill in like, instead of cum, they like put, you know, something fucking funny.

I don't know.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah, that was a really good one, actually. I love it.

It's gotta be your turn next.

I know, what the fuck.

I can't remember, there was something out there that was like, I'm like, "This is gonna be a fucking meme."

I can't remember.

It'll come to me later.

I'll just fade it out.

We're done, thanks so much.

That was awesome.

Yeah, problem.

That was good.

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