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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,419 --> 00:00:19,887 - Nobody could have ever foreseen 2 00:00:19,887 --> 00:00:21,389 where we would be in 2020. 3 00:00:23,691 --> 00:00:25,093 - God, there was just so much 4 00:00:25,093 --> 00:00:25,926 that was supposed to happen this year, you know? 5 00:00:25,926 --> 00:00:27,128 We had a lot going on. 6 00:00:27,128 --> 00:00:29,330 We had a really cool tour planned for Europe. 7 00:00:32,433 --> 00:00:34,735 - I think, in a way, the pandemic happening 8 00:00:34,735 --> 00:00:37,938 really makes us appreciate what we have more. 9 00:00:37,938 --> 00:00:41,575 Being able to get together and make music together 10 00:00:41,575 --> 00:00:43,277 is a release. 11 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:47,548 - It's bizarre how weird this time has become. 12 00:00:49,016 --> 00:00:52,120 - Any solid plans we had at the end of last year, 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,355 you know, everything was just kinda up in the air. 14 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:56,490 Like, what are we supposed to do? 15 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:59,059 - You know, I think what we all learned this year 16 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:02,163 is how to adapt, how to adjust ourselves 17 00:01:02,163 --> 00:01:04,532 to what's going on in the world. 18 00:01:04,532 --> 00:01:06,467 - There was a lot of good groundwork 19 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:08,569 that set us up to be in this place 20 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:11,739 to make this album, finally. 21 00:01:17,311 --> 00:01:20,481 ♪ Three two one zero 22 00:01:27,455 --> 00:01:30,458 ♪ There is no way back this time ♪ 23 00:01:30,458 --> 00:01:33,994 ♪ What is real and what is not 24 00:01:33,994 --> 00:01:36,497 ♪ Oh 25 00:01:36,497 --> 00:01:39,233 ♪ Survival hurts 26 00:01:44,138 --> 00:01:45,406 - So much has changed 27 00:01:45,406 --> 00:01:47,708 since we made a full new album as a band. 28 00:01:47,708 --> 00:01:52,246 I remember, at one point, we had a little tour in Canada, 29 00:01:52,246 --> 00:01:54,648 and, at the end, nobody really had anything going on, 30 00:01:54,648 --> 00:01:57,451 so I was like, "Hey, let's stay a week, 31 00:01:57,451 --> 00:01:59,153 find an Airbnb in the woods," 32 00:01:59,153 --> 00:02:00,554 and, oh man, did we. 33 00:02:00,554 --> 00:02:01,522 So good. 34 00:02:01,522 --> 00:02:03,191 And we were just really way up. 35 00:02:03,191 --> 00:02:04,958 I had to drive way out into the middle of nowhere 36 00:02:04,958 --> 00:02:06,860 and just camped out in the woods, set up a rig, 37 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:08,696 and like, wrote music together. 38 00:02:08,696 --> 00:02:10,398 I am so grateful. 39 00:02:10,398 --> 00:02:13,234 It wasn't foresight, 'cause nobody could have ever foreseen 40 00:02:13,234 --> 00:02:15,169 where we would be in 2020, 41 00:02:15,169 --> 00:02:18,138 but I'm really grateful that we made time 42 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:20,641 when we didn't have to, 43 00:02:20,641 --> 00:02:24,445 that we could be together and just jam in a room 44 00:02:24,445 --> 00:02:26,714 and be creative and get into that zone 45 00:02:26,714 --> 00:02:29,016 intermittently throughout 2019 46 00:02:29,016 --> 00:02:32,720 so that we had this big pile, already, 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,823 of material to work off of when we got here, 48 00:02:35,823 --> 00:02:38,526 and we have had to spend so much of this year apart. 49 00:02:38,526 --> 00:02:43,531 The last concert that we went to go play 50 00:02:44,398 --> 00:02:48,101 was in Mexico City for Knotfest, 51 00:02:48,101 --> 00:02:49,970 and it was one of those things, it was a one-off. 52 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:52,540 It was like, the day after Thanksgiving 53 00:02:52,540 --> 00:02:54,107 was the day we all had to fly. 54 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:57,110 - It was a bad ending to a great year. 55 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:58,746 It was a heavy festival. 56 00:02:58,746 --> 00:03:00,248 There was a lot of heavy bands playing, 57 00:03:00,248 --> 00:03:03,817 and the barricades started failing. 58 00:03:03,817 --> 00:03:05,319 - It was just this really, 59 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:07,788 like, almost out of a bad movie kinda situation, 60 00:03:07,788 --> 00:03:11,259 and somewhat comical and somewhat comical, 61 00:03:11,259 --> 00:03:14,362 and the seriousness of it and the gravity of it. 62 00:03:14,362 --> 00:03:16,163 - The band that played before us, Behemoth, 63 00:03:16,163 --> 00:03:19,500 I went up on their side stage and was just watching 64 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:23,070 because I thought that their get up was fun. 65 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:25,639 Like, their Halloween looking costumes and their masks, 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,140 just standing there watching it. 67 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:29,076 I bolted back to the dressing room 68 00:03:29,076 --> 00:03:31,745 and our security guard, Richie, 69 00:03:31,745 --> 00:03:33,347 he's just like, "Oh, they got problems up there." 70 00:03:33,347 --> 00:03:35,816 Like, what are you talking about? 71 00:03:35,816 --> 00:03:38,686 And it turns out that the crowd got all rowdy 72 00:03:38,686 --> 00:03:40,153 during Behemoth's set. 73 00:03:40,153 --> 00:03:42,690 - The barricades weren't secure, 74 00:03:42,690 --> 00:03:44,592 and it was this crazy thing 75 00:03:44,592 --> 00:03:45,726 where we were sitting back there, 76 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:47,561 hoping that they would fix it, 77 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:49,563 hoping it will be able to be fixed. 78 00:03:49,563 --> 00:03:52,400 It just wasn't something that could happen. 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,970 And a safety call had to be made about, okay, you know, 80 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,740 the last two bands can't go on. 81 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:03,344 Hey guys, Mexico City, we are so, so disappointed 82 00:04:03,344 --> 00:04:05,078 that we didn't get our chance to play for you tonight 83 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:06,113 at Knotfest. 84 00:04:07,481 --> 00:04:09,983 The last couple bands didn't get to play 85 00:04:09,983 --> 00:04:12,152 because of a safety issue. 86 00:04:12,152 --> 00:04:17,090 I've never really been in that situation before 87 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:20,027 where we really were feeling like, 88 00:04:20,027 --> 00:04:22,396 Oh no, this is all going wrong, 89 00:04:22,396 --> 00:04:23,831 and it's kind of out of our control. 90 00:04:23,831 --> 00:04:26,700 It was the saddest thing, driving away, 91 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:30,003 seeing our beautiful set, all ready to go. 92 00:04:30,003 --> 00:04:33,240 The piano's in the middle of the stage, like, 93 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,508 I've never even seen that before 94 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:35,776 with just, thousands of people lined up, 95 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:39,212 waiting to see us play, and having to leave it. 96 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:41,048 The only thing that could have been worse is if, 97 00:04:41,048 --> 00:04:44,418 later in the night, they burned our set to the ground, 98 00:04:44,418 --> 00:04:45,519 which they did. 99 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:47,087 - A lot of people got on stage, 100 00:04:47,087 --> 00:04:49,757 and the first thing they went for was the drum kit, 101 00:04:49,757 --> 00:04:53,394 and they just annihilated Will's drum kit. 102 00:04:53,394 --> 00:04:54,462 - Like, we're getting out of there, 103 00:04:54,462 --> 00:04:56,464 and I get back to the hotel, 104 00:04:56,464 --> 00:04:59,232 and, you know, my drum tech's still down there, 105 00:04:59,232 --> 00:05:01,835 and he says, "You gotta turn on the news." 106 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:04,338 I turn on the news, and there's my drum kit on fire. 107 00:05:04,338 --> 00:05:06,106 You know, being completely burned to the ground, 108 00:05:06,106 --> 00:05:08,409 you know, like a bonfire. 109 00:05:08,409 --> 00:05:10,344 And I was like, "Wow, man," you know? 110 00:05:10,344 --> 00:05:12,079 It was really weird, man, 111 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:13,981 and it wasn't that many of them, you know? 112 00:05:13,981 --> 00:05:16,950 It was less people than you would think 113 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:18,886 that had really kinda caused that destruction. 114 00:05:18,886 --> 00:05:20,754 I mean, people had broken the barricade 115 00:05:20,754 --> 00:05:22,623 and there were thousands of people running around, 116 00:05:22,623 --> 00:05:23,957 but the people that really did that, 117 00:05:23,957 --> 00:05:25,926 it was a small group and it's unfortunate 118 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:28,896 'cause it, you know, made 'em all look bad. 119 00:05:28,896 --> 00:05:29,830 Looking back on it was kinda, 120 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:32,533 "Man, that really just sort of, 121 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:34,502 kinda summed up 2020 right there, 122 00:05:34,502 --> 00:05:36,336 watching my drum kit burn up, you know?" 123 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:38,506 And basically just watched everything 124 00:05:38,506 --> 00:05:41,842 that was supposed to happen in 2020 go up in smoke. 125 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:44,044 - I think, when something like that happens, 126 00:05:44,044 --> 00:05:48,516 you're in such a hectic struggle, 127 00:05:49,717 --> 00:05:52,720 just trying to go through that now, 128 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,589 whatever life throws at you in that moment, 129 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:57,357 that it takes a little bit of time, 130 00:05:57,357 --> 00:05:58,559 and I think, for me, personally, 131 00:05:58,559 --> 00:06:00,828 it was at the airport 132 00:06:00,828 --> 00:06:03,431 when we've been waiting for our gate to open 133 00:06:03,431 --> 00:06:06,266 when everybody was kinda like, in that mood 134 00:06:06,266 --> 00:06:10,137 halfway through being in shock, but also giggling. 135 00:06:10,137 --> 00:06:12,105 I mean, that was not our fans. 136 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:13,674 Our fans would never do that to us, 137 00:06:13,674 --> 00:06:17,144 so it was just a situation that created this energy, 138 00:06:17,144 --> 00:06:20,581 and it was just, unfortunately, us. 139 00:06:20,581 --> 00:06:24,618 - So, we came back, and it was time to do the video 140 00:06:24,618 --> 00:06:26,019 for the chain. 141 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:28,822 ♪ And if you don't love me now 142 00:06:28,822 --> 00:06:32,059 ♪ You will never love me again 143 00:06:32,059 --> 00:06:33,927 ♪ I can still hear you 144 00:06:33,927 --> 00:06:36,196 I just went, "Hey, that's it," you know? 145 00:06:36,196 --> 00:06:37,665 We're just gonna pour this into that, 146 00:06:37,665 --> 00:06:40,267 make this, put it into the video somehow. 147 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:42,470 We had totally lit the drum kit on fire for fun, 148 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:44,905 and, you know, took that back. 149 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:46,006 I think there's always a way 150 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:47,508 to take the situation you're given 151 00:06:47,508 --> 00:06:50,878 and make something out of it, go with it, use it. 152 00:06:50,878 --> 00:06:53,614 We've had to do that more, and more, and more this year. 153 00:06:53,614 --> 00:06:57,284 That mentality had to carry over into this year 154 00:06:57,284 --> 00:06:59,453 where then, we went into the studio. 155 00:06:59,453 --> 00:07:02,523 We hadn't locked down yet. It wasn't COVID in the US yet. 156 00:07:02,523 --> 00:07:05,859 And we were able to record these first four songs, 157 00:07:05,859 --> 00:07:07,294 and that went really great. 158 00:07:07,294 --> 00:07:10,197 We had such a wonderful creative connection with Nick 159 00:07:10,197 --> 00:07:13,133 that we decided we really did want to continue with him 160 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:14,668 for the rest of the record. 161 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:17,671 The fact that I've been able to be here, with Nick here, 162 00:07:17,671 --> 00:07:20,574 and we've had the ability to work 163 00:07:22,643 --> 00:07:27,648 amidst the craziness of having to wait weeks 164 00:07:28,716 --> 00:07:30,217 before being together, sometimes, 165 00:07:30,217 --> 00:07:32,085 because somebody's, you know, 166 00:07:32,085 --> 00:07:34,522 come in contact with somebody and needs to quarantine. 167 00:07:34,522 --> 00:07:35,823 Even to be together in a way 168 00:07:35,823 --> 00:07:37,591 where we can be across the room and mask up, 169 00:07:37,591 --> 00:07:40,060 but I never have had to be in a situation 170 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:42,462 where I either had to get on a plane 171 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:44,431 to continue this process. 172 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:47,701 It didn't even need to be that way for me. 173 00:07:47,701 --> 00:07:51,605 It was more to get the guys in here after lockdown. 174 00:07:51,605 --> 00:07:54,341 - We recorded a few songs, January and February, 175 00:07:54,341 --> 00:07:56,610 and then I was mixing them in March, 176 00:07:56,610 --> 00:08:00,881 and then things started to get really weird all of a sudden, 177 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:02,315 so we stopped. 178 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:03,851 I think it was right around the time we stopped 179 00:08:03,851 --> 00:08:07,354 it was kinda like, "Whoa, this is getting serious." 180 00:08:07,354 --> 00:08:09,890 And then, you know, over the course of the next few months, 181 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:13,126 we just kinda kept in touch and watch things develop 182 00:08:13,126 --> 00:08:15,829 and got to a point where we felt like 183 00:08:15,829 --> 00:08:19,900 it would be safe if we kept the studio really tight 184 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:22,169 and cleaned it all the time and stuff like that, 185 00:08:22,169 --> 00:08:24,705 that we would be able to continue working. 186 00:08:24,705 --> 00:08:25,906 - We had our first four songs. 187 00:08:25,906 --> 00:08:27,507 We had "Wasted on You", "The Game is Over", 188 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:30,210 "Use My Voice", and "Yeah Right" 189 00:08:30,210 --> 00:08:31,912 recorded from our first batch, 190 00:08:33,113 --> 00:08:36,383 and even finishing it, we weren't quite done 191 00:08:36,383 --> 00:08:37,885 when we really needed to separate, 192 00:08:37,885 --> 00:08:40,621 and then I got a sore throat. 193 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:42,122 It wasn't COVID. 194 00:08:42,122 --> 00:08:45,893 We needed to still record some background vocals and stuff, 195 00:08:45,893 --> 00:08:49,296 but Nick and I couldn't get together, just in case. 196 00:08:49,296 --> 00:08:51,298 And I remember coming up here, 197 00:08:51,298 --> 00:08:55,202 and he brought the mic and the preamp and the compressor 198 00:08:55,202 --> 00:08:57,571 into the parking lot, 199 00:08:58,772 --> 00:09:00,507 and laid it out, like, on the ground for me, 200 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:02,943 and was explaining like, across the parking lot. 201 00:09:02,943 --> 00:09:04,578 He's like, "I set this knob already. 202 00:09:04,578 --> 00:09:05,846 You do this and this and this. 203 00:09:05,846 --> 00:09:07,480 Plug this in here," and like, whatever. 204 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,019 And then, you know, recorded the end of that remotely, 205 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:14,454 and mixing remotely is no big deal, 206 00:09:14,454 --> 00:09:16,223 so it was just like this 207 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:18,091 we're not gonna let anything stop us feeling, 208 00:09:18,091 --> 00:09:19,026 even from then. 209 00:09:19,026 --> 00:09:20,293 - The cool thing about this band 210 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:22,262 is that there's a certain resiliency 211 00:09:22,262 --> 00:09:23,931 to what we were doing, 212 00:09:23,931 --> 00:09:25,498 and I think that came from a few places. 213 00:09:25,498 --> 00:09:26,767 It came from that we really believed 214 00:09:26,767 --> 00:09:28,268 in the music that we were creating, 215 00:09:28,268 --> 00:09:31,271 and it came from really good management 216 00:09:31,271 --> 00:09:34,507 that just was determined to not let this thing put us down. 217 00:09:34,507 --> 00:09:36,143 - We were just about to release, 218 00:09:36,143 --> 00:09:39,780 It was gonna be "Use My Voice" for the first song, 219 00:09:39,780 --> 00:09:41,148 and we were about to release that, 220 00:09:41,148 --> 00:09:43,016 and we were working on the video idea for that, 221 00:09:43,016 --> 00:09:44,484 and we were about to go on our tour, 222 00:09:44,484 --> 00:09:46,654 and then it was like, none of that's happening. 223 00:09:46,654 --> 00:09:49,589 And suddenly, the feeling of "Use My Voice" 224 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:51,324 doesn't fit right now. 225 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:52,592 What do we do? 226 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:54,695 And it was really that there was this choice 227 00:09:54,695 --> 00:09:56,964 whether we were gonna either just wait it out 228 00:09:58,131 --> 00:09:59,900 and just hold on and do it our way 229 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:02,502 and not go with the flow of things, 230 00:10:02,502 --> 00:10:07,307 or use it and go, "Hey, let's look at what we have here." 231 00:10:07,307 --> 00:10:08,508 We picked another song 232 00:10:08,508 --> 00:10:11,344 that fit really, really well for the moment 233 00:10:11,344 --> 00:10:14,314 with lines in it that picked up a new meaning 234 00:10:14,314 --> 00:10:16,316 all of a sudden, where we were all locked down, 235 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:20,220 frozen in time and waiting for a miracle. 236 00:10:20,220 --> 00:10:23,556 ♪ Wasted on you 237 00:10:23,556 --> 00:10:27,560 ♪ Waiting for a miracle 238 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:31,298 ♪ I can't move on 239 00:10:31,298 --> 00:10:35,202 ♪ Feels like we're frozen in time ♪ 240 00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:38,939 ♪ I'm wasted on you 241 00:10:38,939 --> 00:10:42,943 ♪ Just pass me the bitter truth ♪ 242 00:10:45,412 --> 00:10:48,415 I have been really fueled, in a way, 243 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:50,583 by needing to think about ideas in a new way 244 00:10:50,583 --> 00:10:52,786 and having to find a new way out of the problem. 245 00:10:52,786 --> 00:10:54,021 My fans know that 246 00:10:54,021 --> 00:10:56,724 I'm a big fan of Legend of Zelda. 247 00:10:56,724 --> 00:10:58,191 Well, a big part of why 248 00:10:58,191 --> 00:11:00,393 is because it's about the problem solving. 249 00:11:00,393 --> 00:11:02,529 It's like, find your way out of the room. 250 00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:05,065 A lot of this year has been like that. 251 00:11:05,065 --> 00:11:07,100 Like, you have to solve the puzzle, 252 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:10,370 and when you do, the satisfaction is so great 253 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:12,072 because you really had to work for it. 254 00:11:12,072 --> 00:11:14,975 On a different level where emotions are high, 255 00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:17,911 you know, and anxiety is real, and just all of it, 256 00:11:17,911 --> 00:11:20,047 it's been such a ray of light 257 00:11:20,047 --> 00:11:23,817 to have our music for ourselves and for our fans. 258 00:11:23,817 --> 00:11:27,320 It's felt good to be able to put it out there 259 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,325 and just not be a piece of bad news 260 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:34,795 amongst so much bad news, 261 00:11:34,795 --> 00:11:38,331 but I think that, on a real serious note, 262 00:11:39,666 --> 00:11:41,534 there's a lot of hope, 263 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:46,539 and music, hopefully, you know, shines that hope 264 00:11:48,441 --> 00:11:53,446 and that idea that when we can be honest, truly honest, 265 00:11:55,382 --> 00:11:59,953 be broken, and not be afraid to be that, connect in that, 266 00:11:59,953 --> 00:12:02,856 then we can start to climb out together, 267 00:12:02,856 --> 00:12:04,157 and there is a way through this, 268 00:12:04,157 --> 00:12:05,358 and there is a light at the end of the tunnel 269 00:12:05,358 --> 00:12:07,394 because we really aren't alone, 270 00:12:07,394 --> 00:12:11,398 even though, physically, we have been so much in this year. 271 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:13,466 - I talked to Amy about it, 272 00:12:13,466 --> 00:12:16,003 Well, we all we all did, on a Zoom call, 273 00:12:16,003 --> 00:12:17,070 and she was like, "Hey guys, 274 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:19,539 we have to get this record done, 275 00:12:19,539 --> 00:12:22,175 and we have to get together to do it." 276 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:24,244 Okay, well, how are we gonna do that 277 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:25,612 and make sure it's safe? 278 00:12:25,612 --> 00:12:28,015 - And it was kinda like, how do we, you know, 279 00:12:28,015 --> 00:12:31,852 Okay, how do we get everybody from their own states, 280 00:12:31,852 --> 00:12:35,122 and Jen, who lives in Germany, 281 00:12:35,122 --> 00:12:38,225 how do we get everybody back to Nashville? 282 00:12:38,225 --> 00:12:40,493 And, you know, there were lots of ideas. 283 00:12:40,493 --> 00:12:42,529 One of those ideas was to, you know, 284 00:12:42,529 --> 00:12:44,998 let's rent a tour bus and park it in the parking lot, 285 00:12:44,998 --> 00:12:46,934 and we can just have the band stay on the bus, 286 00:12:46,934 --> 00:12:49,136 and, that way, they can just walk from the bus 287 00:12:49,136 --> 00:12:51,604 into the studio, and nobody has to be here. 288 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:53,841 - Amy's top priority was making sure 289 00:12:53,841 --> 00:12:56,576 that everybody was safe and taken care of. 290 00:12:56,576 --> 00:13:01,181 And so, she sent tour buses to everybody, individually, 291 00:13:01,181 --> 00:13:04,251 to take us from our homes to Nashville. 292 00:13:04,251 --> 00:13:05,618 - We all got tested. 293 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:07,988 We tried to be as careful as possible. 294 00:13:07,988 --> 00:13:11,191 It was a real bummer that we couldn't get Jen here. 295 00:13:11,191 --> 00:13:13,193 She's stuck in Europe, 296 00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:18,198 and, you know, at the time, there were no flights 297 00:13:18,932 --> 00:13:20,167 coming from over there, 298 00:13:20,167 --> 00:13:23,403 so she couldn't have got here if she wanted to. 299 00:13:23,403 --> 00:13:25,072 - I love Amy and I love the guys, 300 00:13:25,072 --> 00:13:28,341 and just being apart from them for so long, 301 00:13:28,341 --> 00:13:33,346 especially because we left Nashville in February, 302 00:13:34,081 --> 00:13:35,348 and everybody went like, 303 00:13:35,348 --> 00:13:36,549 "Okay, padi padi pa, see you next time," 304 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:39,219 so nobody knew that this was coming, 305 00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:42,422 and that this was happening in 2020. 306 00:13:42,422 --> 00:13:47,427 And what was really the toughest part of this year 307 00:13:48,295 --> 00:13:49,796 while working on this album 308 00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:52,432 was for me to know that they are able to hang out together 309 00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:55,435 and I couldn't even make it into the country. 310 00:13:55,435 --> 00:13:57,004 That was hard. 311 00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:58,805 ♪ Stand in the front but shut up ♪ 312 00:13:58,805 --> 00:14:03,243 ♪ 'Til I tell you to go 313 00:14:03,243 --> 00:14:05,245 ♪ And don't get caught up in pretend ♪ 314 00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:09,649 ♪ 'Cause you're not in control 315 00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:11,518 - Hey! 316 00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:13,486 - Hi. We're back! 317 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:14,988 - So, where are we right now? 318 00:14:14,988 --> 00:14:16,756 - We are at Rock Falcon. 319 00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:18,926 The epic, legendary Rock Falcon, 320 00:14:18,926 --> 00:14:21,061 coming out of our holes for the first time 321 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:23,230 in a very long time 322 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:24,564 to get together and finish this thing. 323 00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:31,804 - This is such a positive 324 00:14:31,804 --> 00:14:33,440 and blessed thing to happen for us, 325 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,975 to be able to come and do this. 326 00:14:34,975 --> 00:14:38,411 To be able to come in now and do this and finish this record 327 00:14:38,411 --> 00:14:40,413 has given it an urgency 328 00:14:40,413 --> 00:14:42,415 that I don't think that we would have had any other way. 329 00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:44,918 - We had to be apart for a few months 330 00:14:44,918 --> 00:14:47,354 after the first four songs were recorded, 331 00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:50,190 and then, it was like, super, super locked down. 332 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:52,325 Got the buses for the guys, we got to get back together, 333 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:54,061 and we were hungry for it. 334 00:14:54,061 --> 00:14:55,295 I'd just gotten to a point 335 00:14:55,295 --> 00:14:56,563 where I couldn't do it alone anymore, you know? 336 00:14:56,563 --> 00:14:59,599 I'd gotten as far as I could get to on my own. 337 00:14:59,599 --> 00:15:00,867 We just needed to be together. 338 00:15:00,867 --> 00:15:03,503 We got here, and there was a new spark. 339 00:15:03,503 --> 00:15:05,072 There was a new passion and energy 340 00:15:05,072 --> 00:15:06,239 and appreciation for the ability 341 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:08,341 to be here in the first place. 342 00:15:08,341 --> 00:15:10,743 The guys were here, just camped out for like, 343 00:15:10,743 --> 00:15:12,079 I think it was six weeks. 344 00:15:13,613 --> 00:15:17,284 And, you know, knowing that we would have to go back apart 345 00:15:17,284 --> 00:15:20,187 and potentially not get back together again for the album, 346 00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:23,456 we had to cram it all in, 347 00:15:23,456 --> 00:15:26,159 so it was like, we didn't have all the songs written, 348 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,061 so it started with a writing session happening 349 00:15:28,061 --> 00:15:29,796 during the pre-production phase, 350 00:15:29,796 --> 00:15:33,133 which, especially with Nick, always yields something, 351 00:15:33,133 --> 00:15:34,901 always yields something cool. 352 00:15:34,901 --> 00:15:36,103 I think the coolest one 353 00:15:36,103 --> 00:15:37,637 that came out of that pre-pro moment 354 00:15:37,637 --> 00:15:39,973 was "Better Without You". 355 00:15:39,973 --> 00:15:41,208 We all love that song, 356 00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:42,775 and it's cool when you can really see something 357 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:46,313 take shape together, 'cause that's often not the case. 358 00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:47,714 Like, I'll come up with something 359 00:15:47,714 --> 00:15:48,715 or if something comes from somewhere, 360 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:49,983 and then, there you go. 361 00:15:49,983 --> 00:15:54,221 But having that time to be in the creative zone, 362 00:15:54,221 --> 00:15:55,955 and jam in here, and just play in the room, 363 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:59,826 kinda like a show, but focused in a creative way, 364 00:15:59,826 --> 00:16:01,661 and then to take it in there and start going for it 365 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:04,831 and laying tracks down, oh, felt so good. 366 00:16:04,831 --> 00:16:07,734 Just a little piece of something normal 367 00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:10,870 in a time where nothing feels like 368 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:14,941 it will ever be normal again felt great. 369 00:16:14,941 --> 00:16:17,844 And, you know, it's weird, 370 00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:20,447 but it felt good to be reminded 371 00:16:20,447 --> 00:16:21,881 that we're good at something, 372 00:16:22,815 --> 00:16:24,284 'cause it's hard not to just feel 373 00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:26,453 like everything's too hard this year, 374 00:16:26,453 --> 00:16:28,288 and coming in here and making music 375 00:16:28,288 --> 00:16:30,190 is somewhere where I am running, 376 00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:31,991 I am feet on the ground, running, 377 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,926 and it's like, "Oh yeah! We're good at this!" 378 00:16:33,926 --> 00:16:35,462 Like, this is something I know how to do, 379 00:16:35,462 --> 00:16:38,198 and I'm not failing at. 380 00:16:38,198 --> 00:16:43,203 ♪ As empires fall to pieces 381 00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:49,442 ♪ Our ashes twisting in the air ♪ 382 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:55,715 ♪ It makes me smile to know that ♪ 383 00:16:56,616 --> 00:16:59,886 ♪ I'm better without you 384 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:05,292 - The whole atmosphere 385 00:17:05,292 --> 00:17:06,826 of what's going on in the world right now 386 00:17:06,826 --> 00:17:10,230 has really lent itself to what this record sounds like. 387 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:11,598 And this, in my mind, 388 00:17:11,598 --> 00:17:13,066 you know, and I don't wanna speak out of turn, 389 00:17:13,066 --> 00:17:17,337 but in my mind, this is a very aggressive 390 00:17:17,337 --> 00:17:19,639 and heavy record for Evanescence, 391 00:17:19,639 --> 00:17:21,074 and when I say heavy, 392 00:17:21,074 --> 00:17:24,377 I mean musically, it's probably the heaviest thing 393 00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:27,947 that we've ever done through and through, 394 00:17:27,947 --> 00:17:30,350 but also, lyrically, 395 00:17:31,484 --> 00:17:34,654 it's the most pointed and timely lyrics 396 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:36,989 that I think Amy's ever written, in my opinion. 397 00:17:36,989 --> 00:17:38,191 - I had a moment, 398 00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:41,794 when we were mixing "Use My Voice", actually, 399 00:17:41,794 --> 00:17:45,398 I just felt this weight in my heart. 400 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:46,866 Like, this conviction. 401 00:17:46,866 --> 00:17:51,438 We had to do more than just write a protest song. 402 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:55,142 We needed to do something that could actually, you know, 403 00:17:55,142 --> 00:17:58,878 potentially inspire people and move people 404 00:17:58,878 --> 00:18:02,415 and help to shine light on truth, 405 00:18:02,415 --> 00:18:07,420 because lies have just flooded our world 406 00:18:08,955 --> 00:18:12,091 and our country lately. 407 00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:18,331 ♪ Go and take everything and throw it away ♪ 408 00:18:19,866 --> 00:18:24,871 ♪ But I will use my voice 409 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:29,942 ♪ Oh 410 00:18:33,446 --> 00:18:35,282 We got to get together for the video. 411 00:18:36,649 --> 00:18:38,951 That in itself was something to be so excited for, 412 00:18:40,019 --> 00:18:41,721 and it was different. 413 00:18:41,721 --> 00:18:44,424 We had a medic onsite taking temperatures 414 00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:46,959 and making sure everybody was apart. 415 00:18:46,959 --> 00:18:48,428 Everybody was wearing masks all the time. 416 00:18:48,428 --> 00:18:53,400 Also, just feeling like this really awesome support 417 00:18:54,567 --> 00:18:56,869 came out of people that I did and didn't know. 418 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,739 Eric and his crew? Incredible. 419 00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:02,609 I mean, anytime you're gonna get together like that, 420 00:19:02,609 --> 00:19:05,278 especially in that moment when we were doing it, 421 00:19:05,278 --> 00:19:08,047 you know, there's a little bit of risk involved. 422 00:19:08,047 --> 00:19:10,850 I mean, you could just choose to not do it, 423 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:14,621 but there was a lot of passion from the creative team, 424 00:19:14,621 --> 00:19:17,457 and even all the extras that we found 425 00:19:17,457 --> 00:19:19,326 who were willing to be a part of the video 426 00:19:19,326 --> 00:19:20,660 wanted to be a part of it. 427 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:23,730 Really wanted to. Wanted to help make it happen. 428 00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:26,098 We were all in it like this big group of people 429 00:19:26,098 --> 00:19:30,102 wanting to make this together, 430 00:19:30,102 --> 00:19:31,404 wanting to make this statement, 431 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:33,873 that we stand for each other and for truth, 432 00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,208 and against the lies, 433 00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:37,043 and against the suppression and oppression. 434 00:19:38,745 --> 00:19:40,947 ♪ But don't you speak for me 435 00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:45,952 ♪ Oh 436 00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:49,389 ♪ No don't you speak for me 437 00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:52,992 We shot here in Nashville for the majority of it 438 00:19:52,992 --> 00:19:56,195 with Tim, and Troy, and Will, and I, 439 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:57,530 and a lot of the extras, 440 00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:59,999 and then Jen's shots were done in Germany 441 00:19:59,999 --> 00:20:03,102 with another director who was with her, 442 00:20:03,102 --> 00:20:04,571 matching the shots, 443 00:20:04,571 --> 00:20:06,339 you know, sending each other pictures of things. 444 00:20:06,339 --> 00:20:08,541 - It kind of looks as if we're all together, 445 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:09,742 but we were not. 446 00:20:09,742 --> 00:20:11,378 I mean, I was in Cologne, in Germany, 447 00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:12,779 but it's fascinating 448 00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:15,615 what technology can do these days. 449 00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:16,983 So, I'm like, "Whoa!" 450 00:20:16,983 --> 00:20:18,251 When I watched the video I'm like, 451 00:20:18,251 --> 00:20:20,453 "I'm with Amy and the guys! This is amazing! 452 00:20:20,453 --> 00:20:21,454 I'm so happy!" 453 00:20:22,622 --> 00:20:23,890 And it was interesting. 454 00:20:24,791 --> 00:20:26,693 We shot it on a day, 455 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:29,396 I remember the weather was really weird. 456 00:20:29,396 --> 00:20:31,931 Maybe the weather gods were just on my side 457 00:20:31,931 --> 00:20:34,434 and they were like, "Yeah, let's make it look exactly like 458 00:20:34,434 --> 00:20:36,803 Amy and the guys who recorded it, and natural". 459 00:20:36,803 --> 00:20:38,471 I don't know. 460 00:20:38,471 --> 00:20:40,473 - It was just kind of like this project 461 00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:44,744 where Eric really poured himself into it big time. 462 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:47,480 Eric knew the song before it was finished, 463 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,182 and has been along for this journey. 464 00:20:50,182 --> 00:20:53,052 It's been really valuable to me, more, and more, and more, 465 00:20:53,052 --> 00:20:58,024 to have other creatives, friends, and artists in my life 466 00:20:58,658 --> 00:21:00,660 to just support. 467 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:01,628 We support each other. 468 00:21:01,628 --> 00:21:02,595 We listen to each other's work, 469 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:03,896 we read each other's stories, 470 00:21:03,896 --> 00:21:05,432 we talked to each other and have conversations, 471 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:08,368 and it only can inspire you 472 00:21:08,368 --> 00:21:12,038 and open your mind to different perspectives, which is good. 473 00:21:12,038 --> 00:21:15,742 ♪ We're gonna break right through ♪ 474 00:21:15,742 --> 00:21:16,776 ♪ Like it or not 475 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:28,455 ♪ Whoa 476 00:21:28,455 --> 00:21:30,056 ♪ If we can't talk about it 477 00:21:30,056 --> 00:21:32,325 ♪ We'll just keep drowning in it ♪ 478 00:21:32,325 --> 00:21:33,826 ♪ Give me credit or not 479 00:21:33,826 --> 00:21:37,430 ♪ I give a lot give a lot 480 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:41,267 ♪ But don't you speak for me 481 00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:46,406 It's hard to know sometimes, the best way to use your voice. 482 00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,808 It's not true that the online world is the whole world. 483 00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:50,042 It's just not. 484 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:53,813 We had to make, we have to continue, you know, 485 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:56,516 to say what's up, to say where we stand 486 00:21:56,516 --> 00:22:01,488 on these hugely important social issues, 487 00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:05,492 and we're already in such a weak place as a world. 488 00:22:05,492 --> 00:22:07,594 Everybody's hurting, people are sick, 489 00:22:07,594 --> 00:22:08,995 people have lost family members. 490 00:22:08,995 --> 00:22:11,163 That is all real, 491 00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:14,767 and to have a force that we're supposed to be able to trust 492 00:22:14,767 --> 00:22:19,205 telling everybody that it's fake, it just hurts. 493 00:22:19,205 --> 00:22:20,407 It really hurts. 494 00:22:20,407 --> 00:22:22,875 More people voted than ever in history. 495 00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:25,978 I'm proud of that fact alone, 496 00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:27,980 and I do feel like we were a teeny tiny part of it. 497 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:30,417 So many people were a part of it. 498 00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:31,884 I am proud of that. 499 00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:34,387 I'm proud that we had that moment 500 00:22:34,387 --> 00:22:39,392 and chose to stand up, and I know it's not over. 501 00:22:40,993 --> 00:22:42,529 - Music's that bridge for people. 502 00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:45,898 We can create, we can write, we can record this stuff, 503 00:22:45,898 --> 00:22:46,866 we can put it out. 504 00:22:49,001 --> 00:22:51,237 I mean, the goal is to get the message out there 505 00:22:51,237 --> 00:22:52,939 and bring folks together. 506 00:22:52,939 --> 00:22:54,206 Definitely not to divide. 507 00:22:58,411 --> 00:23:00,246 - Are you guys sure it does that climb in this song 508 00:23:00,246 --> 00:23:01,981 and it's not the other song? 509 00:23:01,981 --> 00:23:03,450 - It's this song. 510 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:05,251 - It does that exact climb into the bridge of, 511 00:23:09,422 --> 00:23:10,590 - I thought that's what it was. 512 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:12,592 - Yeah, that's that other song. 513 00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:13,426 - What song is that? 514 00:23:13,426 --> 00:23:15,495 - That was * Whoa 515 00:23:15,495 --> 00:23:16,596 That's "The Little Mermaid" part. 516 00:23:16,596 --> 00:23:17,430 - Oh, yeah! 517 00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:18,297 - Oh, yeah. 518 00:23:18,297 --> 00:23:20,433 Well, son of a bitch. 519 00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:38,250 ♪ Do you remember 520 00:23:39,118 --> 00:23:44,123 ♪ What made the scar 521 00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:49,962 ♪ How deep will you cut 522 00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:55,868 ♪ Seeking my heart 523 00:23:56,736 --> 00:24:01,741 ♪ Seeking my heart 524 00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:07,680 ♪ Well you know that you can't hide ♪ 525 00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:13,219 ♪ And you know that you can't lie ♪ 526 00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:19,191 ♪ 'Cause I know all your secrets ♪ 527 00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:23,863 ♪ And I won't let you forget 528 00:24:31,203 --> 00:24:33,405 - I think it's fresh as fuck sounding. 529 00:24:33,405 --> 00:24:35,908 I think it's definitely the heaviest record 530 00:24:35,908 --> 00:24:37,744 that they've ever made. 531 00:24:37,744 --> 00:24:41,413 I mean, Amy really, I was surprised at times 532 00:24:41,413 --> 00:24:43,550 at how heavy she wanted to go 533 00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:45,317 on some of these songs and some of the parts, 534 00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:47,019 some of the elements within the songs, 535 00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:48,521 but actually not that surprised 536 00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:50,823 because she's a total rocker and she loves heavy shit, 537 00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:52,058 and it's awesome. 538 00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:54,561 She loves that energy and that power, 539 00:24:54,561 --> 00:24:56,428 and that's one of the fun things about working with her. 540 00:24:56,428 --> 00:24:58,464 She's not afraid to try anything. 541 00:24:58,464 --> 00:25:00,933 Now, us together, we'll direct a song 542 00:25:00,933 --> 00:25:03,202 through, you know all over the course. 543 00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:04,236 It's like a map, you know? 544 00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:05,672 It starts out over here, 545 00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:07,139 and then it's like driving across the country. 546 00:25:07,139 --> 00:25:08,107 Hey, let's go down to here, and let's go up to here, 547 00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:09,609 and let's go over to here, 548 00:25:09,609 --> 00:25:12,478 and we finally end up on the east coast, you know? 549 00:25:12,478 --> 00:25:14,246 - Nick is incredible. 550 00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:17,183 He is a partner. 551 00:25:17,183 --> 00:25:19,686 It's like he's absolutely one of the band 552 00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:21,087 when we're working together, 553 00:25:21,087 --> 00:25:24,791 and we had that experience last time in 2011, 554 00:25:24,791 --> 00:25:26,693 where we made our self-titled album. 555 00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:30,262 It's self titled because he put us in a place 556 00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:32,131 where it was like, oh, okay. 557 00:25:32,131 --> 00:25:34,300 We're a real band for the first time. 558 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:37,269 With all the experience and perspective 559 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:41,140 and everything that we've gained, and he has, too, 560 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,309 You know, he's the mixer now, as well. 561 00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:48,314 Just letting it be a place where we can go in there 562 00:25:49,148 --> 00:25:50,750 and do it together. 563 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:52,418 Like, I feel like we really, 564 00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:55,087 oftentimes, but not always, 565 00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:57,423 have a vision for the same end goal, 566 00:25:57,423 --> 00:25:59,626 not all the little pieces along the way, 567 00:25:59,626 --> 00:26:01,928 and that's what makes a good collaboration. 568 00:26:01,928 --> 00:26:04,530 But for like, that basic end goal, 569 00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:06,966 I feel like we really get each other 570 00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:11,838 in a way that's super, super productive and beautiful. 571 00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:22,548 ♪ After it all 572 00:26:22,548 --> 00:26:24,516 ♪ Your ego your greed 573 00:26:24,516 --> 00:26:26,085 ♪ You dug your grave 574 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:31,090 ♪ So come on inside 575 00:26:32,524 --> 00:26:34,426 ♪ Rest in peace 576 00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:36,863 ♪ Take cover 577 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:44,203 - He carries that incredible positive drive 578 00:26:44,203 --> 00:26:48,675 and that energy that I have hardly seen in producers so far. 579 00:26:48,675 --> 00:26:51,310 Like, he is the utmost coolest guy. 580 00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,813 I step back a little bit, observed how he's working, 581 00:26:53,813 --> 00:26:56,716 and he's got this amazing talent 582 00:26:56,716 --> 00:26:59,952 of understanding and feeling music, 583 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,689 and he's such a great energy 584 00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:04,924 and you feel so comfortable around him, 585 00:27:04,924 --> 00:27:07,159 recording and contributing 586 00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:09,261 because he makes you feel so welcomed, 587 00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:11,230 like all your ideas are so welcomed, 588 00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:12,999 and he's such an amazing person. 589 00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:17,169 - Nick is absolutely my favorite rock producer. 590 00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:19,772 Like, hands down, the dude is a mind reader. 591 00:27:19,772 --> 00:27:22,441 He gets it. He understands the vibe. 592 00:27:22,441 --> 00:27:25,211 You show him something, you show him an idea, 593 00:27:25,211 --> 00:27:26,645 he's already five steps ahead, 594 00:27:26,645 --> 00:27:28,247 he's already heard the rest of the song 595 00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:30,582 that you're trying to write before you've heard it. 596 00:27:30,582 --> 00:27:35,221 And he sits there and he listens to what you're doing, 597 00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,489 and he computes it, and he feels it, 598 00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:40,526 and he says, "Try this, try that, try this." 599 00:27:40,526 --> 00:27:42,929 Most of the time, you try that, and you try that, 600 00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:44,163 and you try this, and you're like, 601 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:45,664 "Holy shit, that's way better 602 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,900 than what I thought I was already doing." 603 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:49,368 - Some producers, 604 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,470 you bring something up and they just blow you off 605 00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:53,539 because they have a specific way 606 00:27:53,539 --> 00:27:56,142 that they wanna do everything. 607 00:27:56,142 --> 00:27:58,945 Sometimes they want you to play it through all their stuff. 608 00:27:58,945 --> 00:28:00,479 It's a bummer, you know? 609 00:28:00,479 --> 00:28:02,281 It's like, I've been working on this tone my whole life, 610 00:28:02,281 --> 00:28:04,851 and you want me to play through some amp 611 00:28:04,851 --> 00:28:06,318 I've never played through. 612 00:28:06,318 --> 00:28:10,823 Nick's always open to ideas, ways of recording. 613 00:28:10,823 --> 00:28:15,227 It's more like having another band member in the band. 614 00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:17,730 - Obviously, other friends that work with him, 615 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,598 and I'm real familiar with what he had done 616 00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:21,801 with Alice In Chains in "Black Gives Way to Blue", 617 00:28:21,801 --> 00:28:24,570 "Diamond eyes", and, you know, obviously, The Foo Fighters, 618 00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:26,873 and then, you know, Rush, 619 00:28:26,873 --> 00:28:29,776 but I'd never met him, so we came in and met the guy, 620 00:28:29,776 --> 00:28:32,378 and it was just like this thing of like, 621 00:28:32,378 --> 00:28:34,280 you know, we're similar in age, 622 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,184 and we really like a lot of the same stuff, man. 623 00:28:38,184 --> 00:28:41,788 And just felt like I was hanging out 624 00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:43,823 with one of my best buddies 625 00:28:43,823 --> 00:28:47,126 from high school and beyond, you know? 626 00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:49,595 In my music scene, you know, whatever. 627 00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:52,298 You know, mixed kind of guy. You know, he likes to hang out. 628 00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:53,766 But he's also got a job to do, 629 00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:55,734 and he's really good at doing that 630 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:58,037 without it seeming like that's what he's doing. 631 00:28:58,037 --> 00:29:00,139 - The band that she's got backing her right now 632 00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:02,842 is truly a force to be reckoned with. 633 00:29:02,842 --> 00:29:06,745 Those guys, and Jen included. They're awesome. 634 00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:11,717 Will Hunt who is from a different galaxy, 635 00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:15,654 made of a different composition of DNA, 636 00:29:16,989 --> 00:29:21,660 was formed in the millennia, many eons ago, 637 00:29:22,528 --> 00:29:23,729 and sits behind the drums 638 00:29:23,729 --> 00:29:25,965 and plays with that nuclear energy. 639 00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:29,301 And Tim on the bass is, I mean, he's great. 640 00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:30,636 They're all great! They're all great. 641 00:29:30,636 --> 00:29:32,071 Troy's great, Jen's great. 642 00:29:32,071 --> 00:29:36,742 Her band is just completely on point all the time, 643 00:29:36,742 --> 00:29:39,245 and they're great people, they're great players, 644 00:29:39,245 --> 00:29:40,712 and they come together 645 00:29:40,712 --> 00:29:44,316 and they create this giant sound of Evanescence. 646 00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,185 There's a lot of power behind it. 647 00:29:46,185 --> 00:29:48,587 - A really important element to a functional band 648 00:29:48,587 --> 00:29:53,259 is everyone respecting each other. 649 00:29:53,259 --> 00:29:54,961 Like, personally and professionally, 650 00:29:54,961 --> 00:29:57,663 really believing in each other. 651 00:29:57,663 --> 00:29:59,098 One of the reasons for that 652 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:05,004 is you need to let somebody go down a road for a minute 653 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:06,839 before shooting it down. 654 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,908 Also, be comfortable with each other 655 00:30:08,908 --> 00:30:10,609 as brothers and sisters, you know, 656 00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:11,743 to where we can go down a road and go, 657 00:30:11,743 --> 00:30:12,979 "Okay, cool. Let's not do that. 658 00:30:12,979 --> 00:30:13,913 Let's do something else," you know? 659 00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:15,714 And not feel threatened by that. 660 00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:19,818 We have been a unit, this core, the five of us, 661 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:22,054 for about five years since we've had Jen, 662 00:30:22,054 --> 00:30:24,390 but with the exception of Jen, 663 00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:26,225 the rest of the guys that I have been together 664 00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:27,559 for over a decade, 665 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:32,298 and really developed some major bond 666 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:35,001 from the experiences that we've had, 667 00:30:35,001 --> 00:30:37,669 and from just, like, having a deep understanding 668 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:42,674 with each other, and I really create the best 669 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,544 the only way that I really, truly can. 670 00:30:45,544 --> 00:30:49,048 Like, open myself up all the way as to trust somebody, 671 00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:51,717 and I trust them, 672 00:30:51,717 --> 00:30:54,753 and I know what it's like for it to not be that way, 673 00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:57,389 and I just wouldn't wanna be doing this 674 00:30:57,389 --> 00:30:58,857 if it wasn't that way. 675 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,326 Each of them brings something different to the table, 676 00:31:00,326 --> 00:31:02,962 and each of us has a slightly different style. 677 00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:05,731 We don't all have the same exact vision. 678 00:31:05,731 --> 00:31:08,434 We don't all want all the same things for music, 679 00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:11,170 but that's why it can be so multilayered. 680 00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:13,505 I think that brings something good, the push and pull. 681 00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:14,941 Same thing with working with Nick. 682 00:31:14,941 --> 00:31:16,408 Like, a little bit of that push and pull 683 00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:17,609 is what makes it great. 684 00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:21,280 So, I don't know. 685 00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:25,417 It's sort of like, just this particular recipe 686 00:31:25,417 --> 00:31:29,188 that makes up this time for us as a band, 687 00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:31,057 and I'm really grateful for it. 688 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,959 - A few of the elements that I really love 689 00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:36,062 about recording with Evanescence, and Amy in particular is, 690 00:31:36,062 --> 00:31:39,865 you know, all of the recording involved in the process, 691 00:31:39,865 --> 00:31:43,035 which is, she's down to get a string section, 692 00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:44,470 and get a choir, 693 00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:47,206 and we'll have two or three different programmers, 694 00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:50,042 and everybody's just throwing information, and tracks, 695 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:51,610 and ideas and creativity, 696 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:55,181 and it's just this thing, it's hard to describe, 697 00:31:55,181 --> 00:31:57,083 and when we're in the thick of that, 698 00:31:57,083 --> 00:31:59,418 it's really, really fun, and really exciting. 699 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:02,955 When you work with a band or an artist, whoever, 700 00:32:02,955 --> 00:32:04,423 you partner up with all of 'em 701 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,525 at, kinda, different times during the process, 702 00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:08,160 and, you know, it's a lot of fun 703 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,196 when me and her really get to dig into all this stuff, 704 00:32:10,196 --> 00:32:13,265 'cause she's super creative, and a great piano player. 705 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:18,270 And she's just really flowing with creativity and ideas, 706 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:20,372 and she understands the process, you know? 707 00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:21,907 She knows things take a while. 708 00:32:21,907 --> 00:32:24,310 You can do things a lot easier these days, obviously, 709 00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:26,912 with programming and synthesized keyboards 710 00:32:26,912 --> 00:32:28,414 and all that stuff, and, you know, 711 00:32:28,414 --> 00:32:30,449 there's instances where I'm like, "Hey," you know? 712 00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:31,717 "Let's do a little string thing in here! 713 00:32:31,717 --> 00:32:33,319 Let's just grab the keyboard real quick!" 714 00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,687 And she looks at me like, are you crazy? 715 00:32:36,555 --> 00:32:38,524 She's like, "No. 716 00:32:38,524 --> 00:32:41,027 We're gonna record strings in a studio," 717 00:32:41,027 --> 00:32:44,830 and I'm just like, "Okay. Let's go!" 718 00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:07,519 - * We can't be trusted 719 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:13,725 ♪ Oh 720 00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:18,830 ♪ The future starts with us 721 00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:21,567 ♪ Blind belief 722 00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:25,104 ♪ Are you afraid to see 723 00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:30,109 ♪ That our fathers were wrong 724 00:33:31,277 --> 00:33:35,281 ♪ We hold the key to redemption ♪ 725 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,819 ♪ Let icons fall 726 00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:44,756 At first, I really had held out on strings this time, 727 00:33:44,756 --> 00:33:48,127 because part of the vision for this album 728 00:33:48,127 --> 00:33:51,363 was to make it really raw, and it's not. 729 00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:53,065 It's Evanescence, come on! 730 00:33:53,065 --> 00:33:54,466 There's a million layers, 731 00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:58,370 but coming off of "Synthesis" in particular, 732 00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:00,306 combined with the themes of the music, 733 00:34:00,306 --> 00:34:04,376 which are very exposed, just opening up, 734 00:34:06,178 --> 00:34:07,679 just felt like the right thing, 735 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:11,817 to have it not have that beautiful element. 736 00:34:11,817 --> 00:34:16,555 But, you know, as the album has been such a journey, 737 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:17,956 it took us to that place 738 00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:19,858 where if it needs something, we could do it, 739 00:34:19,858 --> 00:34:23,195 and we could do it, and it was possible. 740 00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:24,530 David Campbell, 741 00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:26,265 I mean, he's just a part of this. 742 00:34:26,265 --> 00:34:29,000 He's been a part of this since our very first album, 743 00:34:30,369 --> 00:34:32,904 and that's why "Synthesis" was so gratifying, 744 00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:34,606 because we were able to re-experience it 745 00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:36,475 and re-dig into it together, 746 00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:40,446 and have our thing together that we always collaborate on 747 00:34:40,446 --> 00:34:41,747 be the forefront. 748 00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:46,752 ♪ Open your eyes to the light 749 00:34:47,986 --> 00:34:52,491 ♪ I denied it for so long 750 00:34:52,491 --> 00:34:55,627 ♪ Oh so long 751 00:34:55,627 --> 00:35:00,632 ♪ Say goodbye 752 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:02,934 ♪ Goodbye 753 00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:28,727 In this, to come back again and have it be with him, 754 00:35:28,727 --> 00:35:30,996 it made it all feel real. 755 00:35:30,996 --> 00:35:33,499 It's like, okay, now we've done an Evanescence album. 756 00:35:33,499 --> 00:35:35,201 We've got some strings going on, 757 00:35:35,201 --> 00:35:37,203 and they sound beautiful. 758 00:35:37,203 --> 00:35:41,607 David doesn't just put strings on something. 759 00:35:41,607 --> 00:35:45,844 He takes in the song and interprets it in his mind, 760 00:35:45,844 --> 00:35:49,715 and like, puts it back out in a new way, 761 00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:54,720 and having that layer of just, like, vision and light 762 00:35:56,522 --> 00:35:58,857 is so precious. 763 00:35:58,857 --> 00:36:00,125 I love it so much. 764 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:04,930 I really am inspired by David Campbell, always, 765 00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:08,700 and I just look up to him in such a major way. 766 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,236 He was able to do it through Zoom, 767 00:36:10,236 --> 00:36:12,137 and actually, Nick was quarantining at the time, 768 00:36:12,137 --> 00:36:13,639 so he was doing it through Zoom, too, 769 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,942 and it was just me and the engineers in the studio, 770 00:36:16,942 --> 00:36:19,110 which was cool, too. 771 00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:21,313 It was beautiful to watch it happen 772 00:36:21,313 --> 00:36:25,817 and to feel like, "Hey, you know, we are still all here. 773 00:36:25,817 --> 00:36:27,085 We're doing this together, 774 00:36:27,085 --> 00:36:29,788 even though we can't really be together." 775 00:36:29,788 --> 00:36:31,723 That makes me feel really good to know. 776 00:36:44,236 --> 00:36:45,304 ♪ Had enough 777 00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:49,107 ♪ I've really had enough 778 00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:54,112 ♪ Had enough of denial 779 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,847 ♪ I'm not alright 780 00:36:55,847 --> 00:36:57,683 ♪ But I'm not gonna lie 781 00:36:57,683 --> 00:37:02,688 ♪ I don't know that I ever was 782 00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:06,525 ♪ All alone I've waited 783 00:37:06,525 --> 00:37:08,026 ♪ All alone 784 00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:09,160 - Fingers crossed. 785 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,095 We can't control anything as far as like, 786 00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:11,497 when we can really go back out 787 00:37:11,497 --> 00:37:14,733 and it's safe, for the audience in particular, you know, 788 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:15,801 to have concerts again. 789 00:37:15,801 --> 00:37:17,936 I feel like we're gonna be able 790 00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:22,708 to still find ways to give and receive. 791 00:37:22,708 --> 00:37:25,210 Like, we're still going to find a way 792 00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:27,379 to keep going in a new way. 793 00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:29,047 Doing the live stream was really cool, 794 00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:30,982 because it was sort of a hybrid 795 00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:34,886 of a show, like, a performance, 796 00:37:34,886 --> 00:37:36,488 and the studio experience, 797 00:37:36,488 --> 00:37:39,591 'cause we're here in the place where we've made the music, 798 00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:41,593 and were isolated in ways 799 00:37:41,593 --> 00:37:43,629 that we can make it sound really good, you know? 800 00:37:43,629 --> 00:37:47,165 Like, where everybody's in separate places and everything. 801 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:52,404 ♪ Change me 802 00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:57,409 ♪ Into something I believe in 803 00:37:58,209 --> 00:38:01,647 ♪ Change me 804 00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:06,652 ♪ So I don't have to pretend 805 00:38:08,754 --> 00:38:10,021 ♪ Take a breath and try 806 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,957 - You know, when I went to that studio 807 00:38:11,957 --> 00:38:13,191 where I recorded my solo album 808 00:38:13,191 --> 00:38:15,461 to record the live stream audio and video, 809 00:38:15,461 --> 00:38:16,762 it was just like, 810 00:38:16,762 --> 00:38:18,930 You know, I had my eyes closed a lot. 811 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:21,633 When I closed my eyes and I played and sang these songs, 812 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:23,134 I was just like, 813 00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,771 putting myself emotionally back to that moment of like, 814 00:38:25,771 --> 00:38:28,306 being together with the band and playing, 815 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:31,410 and it was just, it felt so good. 816 00:38:33,512 --> 00:38:37,082 - * From your mouth flow a thousand truths ♪ 817 00:38:37,082 --> 00:38:41,353 ♪ But you know 818 00:38:41,353 --> 00:38:44,255 ♪ There's only one 819 00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:50,962 The feeling, in real time, 820 00:38:50,962 --> 00:38:53,198 you know, to play those songs together, 821 00:38:53,198 --> 00:38:54,332 felt so good. 822 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,901 The new songs in particular, 823 00:38:55,901 --> 00:38:57,536 because that is the thing 824 00:38:57,536 --> 00:38:59,771 that we would have been doing right now 825 00:38:59,771 --> 00:39:01,306 that we haven't been able to do. 826 00:39:01,306 --> 00:39:03,875 So, to get to just jam them and enjoy them 827 00:39:03,875 --> 00:39:06,778 without thinking about writing or correcting, 828 00:39:06,778 --> 00:39:10,482 just playing them, just mastering the performance of a song 829 00:39:10,482 --> 00:39:11,817 feels really good. 830 00:39:11,817 --> 00:39:15,286 I was really grateful for that moment 831 00:39:15,286 --> 00:39:18,189 and the fact that we were able to make that happen. 832 00:39:33,171 --> 00:39:36,675 - It feels a little like, all encompassing. 833 00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:39,277 We all come from different places, you know? 834 00:39:39,277 --> 00:39:43,715 This band has come together from all parts of the world, 835 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:45,917 all parts of the country. 836 00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:48,186 We all had different upbringings, 837 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,624 our ages are pretty, you know, there's a wide gap 838 00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:57,429 between the oldest arson, the youngest person, 839 00:39:57,429 --> 00:40:00,666 so I feel like this is like a soup 840 00:40:00,666 --> 00:40:03,268 like we've never done before. 841 00:40:03,268 --> 00:40:05,904 - This experience, when I first joined this band, 842 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:08,940 how I saw how the fan base was, 843 00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:11,477 how I was embraced by the fan base, too. 844 00:40:11,477 --> 00:40:16,247 Like, I remember saying to Amy 845 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:18,817 shortly after we first started playing shows together, 846 00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:19,985 I remember saying to her, like, 847 00:40:19,985 --> 00:40:22,120 "Holy shit, these people are passionate!" 848 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,822 And she's just like, "Oh yeah, dude. 849 00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:25,757 Oh yeah. You have no idea." 850 00:40:25,757 --> 00:40:29,561 As the years go by, I can't imagine it any other way. 851 00:40:29,561 --> 00:40:31,663 - They are loyal. 852 00:40:31,663 --> 00:40:34,232 Admittedly, we take a little longer 853 00:40:34,232 --> 00:40:36,668 to put out our records, you know? 854 00:40:36,668 --> 00:40:38,937 We take a lot of time to write songs, 855 00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:42,608 and I don't think that we could ever release enough music 856 00:40:42,608 --> 00:40:46,277 fast enough for 'em, which is great, you know? 857 00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:49,014 We're lucky to have people that are hungry 858 00:40:49,014 --> 00:40:51,382 to hear more from us all the time. 859 00:40:51,382 --> 00:40:52,684 They're all over the place. 860 00:40:52,684 --> 00:40:54,953 We're lucky that we get to tour 861 00:40:56,254 --> 00:40:58,724 almost everywhere in the world. 862 00:40:58,724 --> 00:40:59,991 - A band like Evanescence, 863 00:40:59,991 --> 00:41:01,660 you can think about it as such an anomaly 864 00:41:01,660 --> 00:41:04,563 because this is a band that released a record 865 00:41:04,563 --> 00:41:06,632 and then put out their second record, 866 00:41:06,632 --> 00:41:08,667 maybe two and a half, three years later, 867 00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:10,802 so that's kind of a long stretch, 868 00:41:10,802 --> 00:41:13,639 and then did not put out another record for six years 869 00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:15,641 almost five, almost six years, 870 00:41:15,641 --> 00:41:18,209 and that record debuted at number one 871 00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:19,410 on the Billboard charts. 872 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:21,012 Billboard Top 200 Album Chart. 873 00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:23,949 Not the rock chart, but the Top 200 Album Chart. 874 00:41:23,949 --> 00:41:26,585 I don't know if there's another band out there, 875 00:41:26,585 --> 00:41:28,654 I mean, and I'm sure there is, but I can't think of it, 876 00:41:28,654 --> 00:41:30,388 that's done that. 877 00:41:30,388 --> 00:41:32,323 That's gone away and taking these breaks, 878 00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:34,626 and it's a testament to who these fans are. 879 00:41:34,626 --> 00:41:37,495 And again, we took a long break 880 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:39,598 before we came back and played any shows 881 00:41:39,598 --> 00:41:41,900 with no new material, and the fans were still there. 882 00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:44,536 We threw a massive curve ball 883 00:41:44,536 --> 00:41:46,805 and did a completely orchestral record, 884 00:41:46,805 --> 00:41:49,107 and when I say orchestral electronic record, 885 00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:51,743 I mean we didn't just play the way that we play 886 00:41:51,743 --> 00:41:52,978 and add an orchestra to it, 887 00:41:52,978 --> 00:41:54,680 we flipped the whole thing upside down. 888 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,416 They were there and they're there now. 889 00:41:58,416 --> 00:42:00,451 And it's just incredible. 890 00:42:00,451 --> 00:42:02,320 They're incredibly dedicated. 891 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,855 I've been able to meet a lot of them, 892 00:42:03,855 --> 00:42:07,458 and they come from so many different walks of life 893 00:42:07,458 --> 00:42:09,695 and so many different stories, 894 00:42:09,695 --> 00:42:13,665 and, you know, we're all weird our own way, 895 00:42:13,665 --> 00:42:15,667 and I think that's maybe what we share, you know? 896 00:42:15,667 --> 00:42:16,868 We're pretty open about it. 897 00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:18,704 - Ever since I started playing in bands, 898 00:42:18,704 --> 00:42:22,774 I thought there's always gotta be this one person, you know? 899 00:42:22,774 --> 00:42:25,977 That one person you try to not hang out with, 900 00:42:25,977 --> 00:42:28,079 and I thought that was normal 901 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:29,314 because I didn't know better, 902 00:42:29,314 --> 00:42:33,418 and I learned, when I joined Evanescence, 903 00:42:33,418 --> 00:42:38,423 I learned that it is possible to have a band, a team, 904 00:42:39,457 --> 00:42:42,393 a crew where everybody gets along, 905 00:42:43,494 --> 00:42:48,433 and it's not the norm, and I know that. 906 00:42:49,768 --> 00:42:51,903 I wish things were different for this first album 907 00:42:51,903 --> 00:42:53,104 in such a long time, 908 00:42:53,104 --> 00:42:55,040 but it is what it is, 909 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,076 and it turned out to be so strong, 910 00:42:58,076 --> 00:42:59,477 and I believe the whole situation, 911 00:42:59,477 --> 00:43:01,579 what happened with this year, 912 00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:04,215 not only in the US, but also with the world, 913 00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:07,452 with the pandemic, with a lot of things that happened, 914 00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:13,524 I believe you can totally feel that vibe 915 00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:15,994 in every single song on this album 916 00:43:15,994 --> 00:43:19,297 because it's honest. 917 00:43:19,297 --> 00:43:21,299 It's so powerful and strong. 918 00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:26,304 It's encouraging, but it's also the beauty of, 919 00:43:27,172 --> 00:43:29,641 okay, this is a tough situation. 920 00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:32,310 This is a vulnerable situation. 921 00:43:33,812 --> 00:43:35,947 It's not the utmost positive situation 922 00:43:35,947 --> 00:43:38,784 that we're in right now, but let's make it better. 923 00:43:38,784 --> 00:43:41,019 Let's fight for the good, 924 00:43:41,019 --> 00:43:42,788 and the whole vibe of that album 925 00:43:42,788 --> 00:43:46,624 is encouragement, for me, personally. 926 00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:48,193 When I read through the lyrics, 927 00:43:48,193 --> 00:43:53,198 when I listen to the sounds and to the songs in general, 928 00:43:53,932 --> 00:43:55,133 it's encouraging. 929 00:43:55,133 --> 00:43:58,937 It's like, it's okay to be not okay. 930 00:43:58,937 --> 00:44:01,439 - We really put these records together as a band. 931 00:44:01,439 --> 00:44:04,075 You know, we write together and we really dig in together. 932 00:44:04,075 --> 00:44:06,745 You know, each one of us brings our own thing, 933 00:44:06,745 --> 00:44:10,481 and, I mean, it's cool that Amy has come to a point 934 00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,651 where she trusts us to be a part of that with her. 935 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:15,887 I think that's a really ballsy, 936 00:44:15,887 --> 00:44:18,957 but also, you know, I'm honored, 937 00:44:18,957 --> 00:44:20,692 we're all honored that she feels that way. 938 00:44:20,692 --> 00:44:24,730 At the same time, she has a mutual respect to us 939 00:44:24,730 --> 00:44:27,833 that this is really important to me. 940 00:44:27,833 --> 00:44:29,600 Nobody's just phoning it in. 941 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,102 - We have this band 942 00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:35,907 and we've had this album, this year, to focus on, 943 00:44:35,907 --> 00:44:40,011 to pour ourselves into all the fear and frustration 944 00:44:40,011 --> 00:44:43,048 and rage and love and longing, 945 00:44:43,048 --> 00:44:44,549 and, more than anything, 946 00:44:44,549 --> 00:44:49,420 I feel a want for a human connection across distances 947 00:44:50,655 --> 00:44:52,290 with people we do and don't know 948 00:44:53,291 --> 00:44:57,628 just to feel unity as humankind, 949 00:44:57,628 --> 00:45:01,933 and music is a place where that is somehow possible. 950 00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:06,537 So, I have, you know, 951 00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:08,606 through the difficulty and challenge of this year, 952 00:45:08,606 --> 00:45:10,842 We had just decided, early on, 953 00:45:10,842 --> 00:45:13,779 that we were going to dive head first 954 00:45:13,779 --> 00:45:15,046 into the creative part of things, 955 00:45:15,046 --> 00:45:17,883 and, however we could, push forward 956 00:45:17,883 --> 00:45:19,417 and make the best album ever, 957 00:45:19,417 --> 00:45:20,986 and put our whole selves into it. 958 00:45:20,986 --> 00:45:23,188 It's taken all year. 959 00:45:23,188 --> 00:45:26,591 It really has been a long process. 960 00:45:26,591 --> 00:45:28,259 What it's kinda done is given me something 961 00:45:28,259 --> 00:45:31,529 to always be able to focus on 962 00:45:31,529 --> 00:45:34,199 beyond, like, we can't deny reality. 963 00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,001 We all need to be aware right now, 964 00:45:36,001 --> 00:45:37,836 but you need an escape from that, too. 965 00:45:37,836 --> 00:45:39,838 I need an outlet to pour my feelings into. 966 00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:44,810 I need a way to feel like, I don't know, 967 00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:47,612 that something good can still come out of this time, 968 00:45:47,612 --> 00:45:49,848 because just pushing the snooze button 969 00:45:49,848 --> 00:45:53,151 and waiting for things to get better isn't real. 970 00:45:53,151 --> 00:45:55,586 That isn't gonna happen, and it's a huge waste of life. 971 00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:56,822 We don't know if we have tomorrow. 972 00:45:56,822 --> 00:45:58,089 - I don't like to slow down. 973 00:45:58,089 --> 00:46:02,293 When we catch a train, I guess, of thought, 974 00:46:02,293 --> 00:46:03,995 when we're in the zone, 975 00:46:03,995 --> 00:46:06,965 in the pocket, and creating great stuff, 976 00:46:06,965 --> 00:46:08,699 I wanna keep going. 977 00:46:08,699 --> 00:46:10,501 Usually, at the end of the tour, 978 00:46:10,501 --> 00:46:12,303 there's quite a bit of burnout 979 00:46:12,303 --> 00:46:16,107 at the end of the album cycle, and you wanna take some time, 980 00:46:16,107 --> 00:46:18,609 and then so much time passes, 981 00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:21,046 and it becomes almost maddening 982 00:46:21,046 --> 00:46:22,647 that you're not doing it again. 983 00:46:22,647 --> 00:46:26,317 I do what I can to keep creativity flowing, 984 00:46:26,317 --> 00:46:31,322 and if we weren't under pandemic, 985 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:35,726 I would be pushing to keep on rocking, I think. 986 00:46:35,726 --> 00:46:37,028 When the pandemic is over 987 00:46:37,028 --> 00:46:39,931 and we can finally get back to doing work, 988 00:46:39,931 --> 00:46:44,169 the world is gonna be so hungry for all this stuff 989 00:46:44,169 --> 00:46:47,305 that I don't know that it's gonna be possible to slow down, 990 00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:48,840 even if you want it to. 991 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,044 - If anything, I honestly just feel like this album, 992 00:46:53,044 --> 00:46:57,815 having this, has been so, so good and healing for all of us, 993 00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:00,351 has just been a coping mechanism that's been so good for me 994 00:47:00,351 --> 00:47:02,888 and really made me remember, yet again, 995 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:08,093 how much I love this band and making music. 996 00:47:10,728 --> 00:47:15,666 ♪ Only scars on my heart 997 00:47:17,502 --> 00:47:22,507 ♪ Even in dreams I hear you calling ♪ 998 00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:29,414 ♪ Breaking the surface I won't let go ♪ 999 00:47:29,414 --> 00:47:32,783 ♪ You're part of me now 1000 00:47:32,783 --> 00:47:35,186 ♪ And always 73446

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