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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,702 --> 00:00:08,747 Hey, everyone. I'm Clark Wolfe. 2 00:00:08,878 --> 00:00:10,706 And welcome to "Show Me More", where we take 3 00:00:10,836 --> 00:00:13,317 a behind the scenes look at what went into creating 4 00:00:13,448 --> 00:00:14,797 AMC's hit shows. 5 00:00:14,927 --> 00:00:16,755 Before we get into it, I should warn you, 6 00:00:16,886 --> 00:00:19,106 there are lots of spoilers ahead. 7 00:00:19,236 --> 00:00:22,065 Now, if you're all caught up, let's get into part one 8 00:00:22,196 --> 00:00:26,635 of the final season of "Fear The Walking Dead." 9 00:00:26,765 --> 00:00:28,767 Announcer: Presented by T-Mobile. 10 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:35,905 ♪ 11 00:00:36,036 --> 00:00:38,212 Padre was a mystery for most of season seven. 12 00:00:38,342 --> 00:00:40,823 And what we did learn about it at the end 13 00:00:40,953 --> 00:00:43,130 with Morgan and Madison was hardly encouraging. 14 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:44,914 Come on. She sounds scared. 15 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:46,872 Padre: Like all the children here, 16 00:00:47,003 --> 00:00:49,049 she will learn to separate herself from her emotions. 17 00:00:49,179 --> 00:00:51,007 Wolfe: Well, in season 8, we sure learned 18 00:00:51,138 --> 00:00:53,401 a lot more about Padre. 19 00:00:53,531 --> 00:00:54,837 You're doing this for the same reason 20 00:00:54,967 --> 00:00:56,665 we do everything.For Padre. 21 00:00:56,795 --> 00:00:58,319 Wolfe: Like who's in charge, 22 00:00:58,449 --> 00:01:00,625 how the community survived for over seven years, 23 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:05,587 and why you wouldn't exactly call it a family friendly place. 24 00:01:05,717 --> 00:01:07,545 Not even close. 25 00:01:09,373 --> 00:01:11,288 Man: Who are we learning this for? 26 00:01:11,419 --> 00:01:13,856 All: Padre! 27 00:01:13,986 --> 00:01:15,858 Man: Who sustains our way of life? 28 00:01:15,988 --> 00:01:18,208 All: Padre. 29 00:01:18,339 --> 00:01:21,298 Goldberg: Padre is our central settlement 30 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:25,041 that is well fortified, on the water, 31 00:01:25,172 --> 00:01:28,088 where we find our characters in season 8. 32 00:01:28,218 --> 00:01:30,090 Man: Who is teaching us to be strong? 33 00:01:30,220 --> 00:01:31,308 All: Padre. 34 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:33,093 Goldberg: When Padre started, 35 00:01:33,223 --> 00:01:35,269 it was in this altruistic place. 36 00:01:35,399 --> 00:01:39,186 It really was created to rebuild the world. 37 00:01:39,316 --> 00:01:40,709 Chambliss: Padre isn't just a group of people. 38 00:01:40,839 --> 00:01:42,711 It isn't just a settlement. 39 00:01:42,841 --> 00:01:44,713 It really is a way of life. 40 00:01:44,843 --> 00:01:47,368 We kind of thought of this as kind of like a modern day 41 00:01:47,497 --> 00:01:50,501 version of Sparta, where Padre is collecting all these children 42 00:01:50,632 --> 00:01:53,156 from the apocalypse, and they're kind of like this blank slate 43 00:01:53,287 --> 00:01:56,333 that Padre can teach this new way of life to. 44 00:01:56,464 --> 00:01:59,640 Goldberg: They operate on this philosophy of 45 00:01:59,771 --> 00:02:02,383 separating children from their parents 46 00:02:02,513 --> 00:02:05,777 and raising them to not have emotional connections. 47 00:02:05,908 --> 00:02:07,518 Chambliss: Individual relationships, individual wants 48 00:02:07,649 --> 00:02:11,478 and needs are secondary to the good of the community. 49 00:02:11,609 --> 00:02:12,697 You're doing this for the same reason 50 00:02:12,828 --> 00:02:14,221 we do everything. 51 00:02:14,351 --> 00:02:15,744 For Padre. 52 00:02:15,874 --> 00:02:18,660 Goldberg: Children are being raised to be strong, 53 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:21,228 to be warriors, to approach the world 54 00:02:21,358 --> 00:02:24,492 in a cold, brutal way. 55 00:02:24,622 --> 00:02:27,147 However, there's something that they grow up 56 00:02:27,277 --> 00:02:30,106 fundamentally lacking, which is connection. 57 00:02:30,237 --> 00:02:32,761 Every time I look out there. I feel like something 58 00:02:32,891 --> 00:02:34,850 really big is missing inside of me. 59 00:02:37,896 --> 00:02:41,030 Goldberg: Our characters are separated from the people 60 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:43,206 they care about, and it's really redefined 61 00:02:43,337 --> 00:02:45,555 who they are as people in the seven years 62 00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:46,905 since we last saw them. 63 00:02:47,036 --> 00:02:48,646 [Grunts] 64 00:02:48,777 --> 00:02:50,779 Who's that? 65 00:02:50,909 --> 00:02:52,476 Madison: That's your dad. 66 00:02:52,607 --> 00:02:55,827 Are you really my father? 67 00:02:55,958 --> 00:02:57,567 I am Mo-- 68 00:02:57,699 --> 00:03:00,267 Wren. My name is Wren. 69 00:03:00,397 --> 00:03:02,704 Essentially, the kids have been brainwashed. 70 00:03:02,834 --> 00:03:04,184 [Grunts] 71 00:03:04,314 --> 00:03:06,273 They believe their parents abandoned them. 72 00:03:06,403 --> 00:03:09,798 They believe that Padre has their best interests at heart. 73 00:03:09,928 --> 00:03:13,105 Padre. Can you hear me? This is Wren. 74 00:03:13,236 --> 00:03:16,152 Man: Padre 1. Wren, do you copy? 75 00:03:16,283 --> 00:03:18,850 Chambliss: Padre is run by these two traumatized 76 00:03:18,981 --> 00:03:21,591 young adults who are doing all of this because 77 00:03:21,723 --> 00:03:23,159 they lost their father. 78 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:28,120 Don't let this die. It's so important. 79 00:03:28,643 --> 00:03:31,602 Goldberg: They believe they are protecting other kids 80 00:03:31,733 --> 00:03:35,084 from the pain that they felt. 81 00:03:35,215 --> 00:03:37,216 I know the pain Wren's in. 82 00:03:37,347 --> 00:03:40,524 The whole reason I am doing what I'm doing 83 00:03:40,655 --> 00:03:44,398 is to prevent anyone else from feeling that kind of pain. 84 00:03:44,528 --> 00:03:48,053 Chambliss: There are, in some ways, good intentions behind 85 00:03:48,184 --> 00:03:50,447 Padre, but Shrike and Crane have gone to this 86 00:03:50,578 --> 00:03:52,928 kind of very dark place. 87 00:03:55,278 --> 00:03:57,280 Woman: Wren, this is to protect you, 88 00:03:57,411 --> 00:03:59,108 Eshet: Shrike and Crane, they're extremists. 89 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:03,634 They take very harsh actions to keep their community safe. 90 00:04:03,765 --> 00:04:05,419 Stop, please! 91 00:04:05,549 --> 00:04:07,377 Eshet: And they really did manage to keep 92 00:04:07,508 --> 00:04:08,813 this community going. 93 00:04:08,944 --> 00:04:10,467 Just so you know, Red Kite, 94 00:04:10,598 --> 00:04:13,601 no one's ever stolen a child from Padre before. 95 00:04:13,731 --> 00:04:16,255 Padre's philosophy has been quite effective. 96 00:04:16,386 --> 00:04:19,259 But there is a cost that comes when you have to enforce 97 00:04:19,389 --> 00:04:22,436 your ideology with such extreme measures. 98 00:04:22,566 --> 00:04:24,002 [Growling] 99 00:04:24,133 --> 00:04:25,700 Stop! Let her go! 100 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:27,441 Get her out of here now. 101 00:04:27,571 --> 00:04:30,226 Padre really has to be careful 102 00:04:30,357 --> 00:04:32,968 about showing any kind of weakness. 103 00:04:34,796 --> 00:04:36,493 Don't move. 104 00:04:36,624 --> 00:04:38,887 Shrike: Call the prefect. Tell them to get more guards. 105 00:04:39,017 --> 00:04:41,977 She's the reason Finch got bit. 106 00:04:42,107 --> 00:04:43,674 Finch got bit? 107 00:04:43,805 --> 00:04:45,981 They don't want to have a bunch of kids wondering, 108 00:04:46,111 --> 00:04:47,808 wait, is it better out there? 109 00:04:47,939 --> 00:04:51,116 Are the parents that we've been told didn't care about us, 110 00:04:51,247 --> 00:04:53,249 were our enemies, are they really our enemies? 111 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:55,860 Those kind of questions are the thing that Padre really 112 00:04:55,991 --> 00:04:57,514 has to try to snuff out. 113 00:04:57,645 --> 00:05:00,648 You wanted to ask Padre for the truth? 114 00:05:00,778 --> 00:05:03,128 Go ahead, ask us. 115 00:05:03,259 --> 00:05:06,393 Walton: Dove finds these files, and it holds all the information 116 00:05:06,523 --> 00:05:08,438 about who her parents were, what her name is. 117 00:05:08,569 --> 00:05:12,137 And that's just one story out of many of the kids. 118 00:05:13,269 --> 00:05:15,489 Eshet: They lied to all of the children. 119 00:05:15,619 --> 00:05:18,579 And I think that is going to be their downfall. 120 00:05:18,709 --> 00:05:19,797 Let her go. 121 00:05:19,928 --> 00:05:21,669 You don't understand. 122 00:05:21,799 --> 00:05:24,628 She's Padre's daughter. You've been lied to. 123 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:26,456 Chambliss: Ultimately, in its effort to survive, 124 00:05:26,587 --> 00:05:29,111 Padre ended up creating the very people 125 00:05:29,241 --> 00:05:31,069 who are going to end up bringing it down. 126 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,031 ♪ 127 00:05:38,642 --> 00:05:40,905 Season 8 took us to a watery world 128 00:05:41,036 --> 00:05:42,558 full of muck and mud 129 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:45,562 and sinking boats and swamp walkers. 130 00:05:45,693 --> 00:05:48,348 To do this, the show went to the wetlands of Georgia, 131 00:05:48,478 --> 00:05:51,481 where they built a swamp in a swamp. 132 00:05:51,612 --> 00:06:00,577 ♪ 133 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:03,972 I really like working in the manmade swamp. 134 00:06:04,102 --> 00:06:06,322 It's such an impressive production design, 135 00:06:06,453 --> 00:06:07,454 the set design. 136 00:06:07,584 --> 00:06:09,107 All the special effects team, 137 00:06:09,238 --> 00:06:11,762 everything they've done, it's pretty remarkable. 138 00:06:11,893 --> 00:06:14,069 [Walkers growling] 139 00:06:14,809 --> 00:06:17,377 Goldberg: The swamp was a whole new element 140 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:20,684 that we got in season 8 with the move to Savannah. 141 00:06:20,815 --> 00:06:23,774 Well, do the alligators, and do the snakes, 142 00:06:23,905 --> 00:06:26,429 do they all know that this is a manmade swamp? 143 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,606 Goldberg: Our team went in and excavated an area, 144 00:06:29,737 --> 00:06:33,610 put in our own swamp water so that we could regulate 145 00:06:33,741 --> 00:06:35,569 and we could make sure that there were no alligators 146 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:37,440 or anything that were getting in. 147 00:06:37,571 --> 00:06:39,399 We built this thing to control the water levels 148 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:42,010 and control the critters and control -- 149 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:44,665 just basically have control over the environment. 150 00:06:46,275 --> 00:06:47,929 Goldberg: We got our swamp walkers, which 151 00:06:48,058 --> 00:06:53,108 KNB just made them so nightmarish and cool. 152 00:06:54,675 --> 00:06:56,416 Dickens: The first night we worked in the swamp, 153 00:06:56,546 --> 00:06:58,808 it was really moderate temperatures. 154 00:06:58,940 --> 00:07:01,290 And I remember us kind of looking at each other like, 155 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:03,771 "This is kind of fun, right?" 156 00:07:06,904 --> 00:07:09,951 James: Particularly the man made swamp that we had, 157 00:07:10,081 --> 00:07:12,780 the water was constantly moving and pumped fresh 158 00:07:12,910 --> 00:07:15,043 and all of that. 159 00:07:15,173 --> 00:07:20,788 And it was kind of nice, I'm saying in inverted commas, 160 00:07:20,918 --> 00:07:23,225 when the weather was warm. 161 00:07:24,748 --> 00:07:27,403 When we were doing it later on in the season 162 00:07:27,534 --> 00:07:31,712 and the weather had turned, not so much. 163 00:07:32,582 --> 00:07:34,105 [Grunts] 164 00:07:34,236 --> 00:07:36,194 Dickens: It was a little bit like a carnival ride 165 00:07:36,325 --> 00:07:38,283 to work on it because you're working at an angle 166 00:07:38,414 --> 00:07:41,852 like this the whole time and half wet the whole time. 167 00:07:41,983 --> 00:07:43,898 David: Looking at the set with the houseboat in the water 168 00:07:44,028 --> 00:07:46,683 and Grace coming in on that raft was so badass. 169 00:07:46,814 --> 00:07:50,557 I mean, I could not have asked for a better entrance 170 00:07:50,687 --> 00:07:51,993 to start off the season. 171 00:07:52,123 --> 00:07:53,995 Who are you? 172 00:07:54,125 --> 00:07:56,258 I'm your mother. 173 00:07:56,388 --> 00:07:58,303 We've seen a lot of horrible things 174 00:07:58,433 --> 00:08:00,305 on "Fear The Walking Dead" over the years, 175 00:08:00,436 --> 00:08:02,438 but Shrike infecting Finch with a walker bite 176 00:08:02,569 --> 00:08:06,268 on the train car is about as dark as it gets. 177 00:08:06,398 --> 00:08:08,052 No, please! 178 00:08:08,183 --> 00:08:11,229 All in the name of finding a cure that doesn't work. 179 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:19,760 ♪ 180 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:24,678 Goldberg: The train car was this off site medical facility 181 00:08:24,808 --> 00:08:28,116 where Padre was doing horrific experiments 182 00:08:28,246 --> 00:08:30,553 in the name of this cure. 183 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:33,687 Hello, Blue Jay. 184 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:37,038 Eshet: I infect Finch to give June motivation 185 00:08:37,168 --> 00:08:39,519 to continue the research. 186 00:08:39,649 --> 00:08:41,390 Elfman: Padre started these horrible experiments 187 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,174 and held June at gunpoint and made her do them. 188 00:08:44,306 --> 00:08:46,526 Why is Padre doing this? 189 00:08:46,656 --> 00:08:48,484 The same reason he does everything -- 190 00:08:48,615 --> 00:08:51,879 to ensure what he's built endures. 191 00:08:52,009 --> 00:08:56,187 I sacrifice one individual in order to find a vaccine 192 00:08:56,318 --> 00:08:59,190 and maybe solve this for humanity. 193 00:08:59,321 --> 00:09:00,496 [Growling] 194 00:09:01,105 --> 00:09:03,107 [Clapping] 195 00:09:03,238 --> 00:09:05,545 The set looked awesome. 196 00:09:05,675 --> 00:09:09,331 Goldberg: We wanted to create this image of this 197 00:09:09,461 --> 00:09:10,985 house of horrors where people who've had 198 00:09:11,115 --> 00:09:13,770 these terrible experiments done to them for walker bites. 199 00:09:13,901 --> 00:09:17,600 [Walkers growling] 200 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:20,647 But it's all coming from this place of 201 00:09:20,777 --> 00:09:22,779 wanting to prevent loss, 202 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:25,347 which is ultimately something that you can't do. 203 00:09:25,477 --> 00:09:27,697 [Growling] 204 00:09:27,828 --> 00:09:32,136 It was really brutal to shoot that scene. 205 00:09:32,267 --> 00:09:34,704 [Growls] 206 00:09:34,835 --> 00:09:37,402 It was awful. 207 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:41,319 Dwight: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 208 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:44,409 We're in this tight train car. 209 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:47,064 Finch is a few feet in front of us. 210 00:09:47,195 --> 00:09:49,327 We're tied to this pipe. 211 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:53,854 To watch Dwight and Sherry's reaction, as parents, 212 00:09:53,984 --> 00:09:56,726 helplessly watching something happen to your child 213 00:09:56,857 --> 00:10:02,384 that you can't do anything about is very emotional. 214 00:10:02,514 --> 00:10:04,038 [Screaming] 215 00:10:04,168 --> 00:10:06,083 Amelio: It was pretty dark world, you know? 216 00:10:06,214 --> 00:10:10,914 So it's like you got to go there in order for it to be truthful. 217 00:10:11,045 --> 00:10:15,223 I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you! 218 00:10:15,353 --> 00:10:17,399 Elfman: I think we all went back to the hotel 219 00:10:17,529 --> 00:10:19,227 and just, like, sat outside 220 00:10:19,357 --> 00:10:23,057 and, like, had to get some fresh air after that day. 221 00:10:23,187 --> 00:10:24,798 [Walkers growling] 222 00:10:24,928 --> 00:10:27,627 [Man groaning, screaming] 223 00:10:29,454 --> 00:10:33,154 Sure enough, one by one, our characters turned on Padre. 224 00:10:33,284 --> 00:10:34,415 Where are you taking me? 225 00:10:34,546 --> 00:10:35,591 As far away from Padre as possible. 226 00:10:35,722 --> 00:10:37,985 It started with Madison, but Padre, 227 00:10:38,115 --> 00:10:39,290 led by Shrike and Crane, 228 00:10:39,421 --> 00:10:41,597 had a real knack for making enemies. 229 00:10:41,728 --> 00:10:44,818 Just ask June or Morgan, Grace, and Mo. 230 00:10:44,948 --> 00:10:45,949 What about everyone else? 231 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,081 Or Dwight and Sherry. 232 00:10:47,211 --> 00:10:48,212 I'm gonna kill you. 233 00:10:48,343 --> 00:10:49,953 Or Daniel and his parent army. 234 00:10:50,084 --> 00:10:53,696 Padre, you pissed off the wrong group of people. 235 00:10:53,827 --> 00:10:55,959 ♪ 236 00:10:56,090 --> 00:10:59,397 Hello? Is anyone in there? 237 00:10:59,528 --> 00:11:01,051 [Gasps]Wait, wait. 238 00:11:01,182 --> 00:11:03,532 Please. I'm not going to hurt you. 239 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:06,883 Dickens: Madison is really important to Padre 240 00:11:07,014 --> 00:11:11,105 because she's rebelling against them. 241 00:11:11,235 --> 00:11:14,064 She was being controlled and brainwashed and led to believe 242 00:11:14,195 --> 00:11:17,415 that she was going to get access to her children. 243 00:11:17,546 --> 00:11:19,069 You lied to me. 244 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,464 She's consumed with guilt for participating with Padre 245 00:11:22,594 --> 00:11:24,727 and collecting all the children. 246 00:11:24,858 --> 00:11:27,121 Her obsession becomes, "Let me help these kids 247 00:11:27,251 --> 00:11:28,688 reunite with their parents." 248 00:11:28,818 --> 00:11:29,819 What's your name? 249 00:11:29,950 --> 00:11:31,081 Wren. 250 00:11:31,212 --> 00:11:34,084 No, it's not. It's Mo. 251 00:11:34,215 --> 00:11:37,740 When Mo realized maybe she wasn't being told 252 00:11:37,871 --> 00:11:41,265 everything about how she came to the island, 253 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:42,832 things start to change. 254 00:11:42,963 --> 00:11:45,356 Change of plans. We're leaving. 255 00:11:45,487 --> 00:11:47,489 Chambliss: When Madison ends up escaping with Mo, 256 00:11:47,619 --> 00:11:49,578 that is such a dangerous thing for Padre. 257 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:51,623 If word were to get out, that would start to show 258 00:11:51,754 --> 00:11:53,887 kind of the fissures in the foundation. 259 00:11:54,017 --> 00:11:55,279 Where are we going? 260 00:11:55,410 --> 00:11:57,238 To find your dad. 261 00:11:57,368 --> 00:11:59,022 On a personal level, 262 00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:03,810 the revolution started with Morgan spending time with Mo. 263 00:12:03,940 --> 00:12:08,118 I think he knows he's never going to let her go again. 264 00:12:08,249 --> 00:12:10,947 I think the initial act of defiance is massive 265 00:12:11,078 --> 00:12:13,471 because he's within Padre's reach. 266 00:12:14,951 --> 00:12:17,954 What are you doing here? How'd you find me? 267 00:12:18,085 --> 00:12:19,739 Evangelista: Sherry and Dwight are on their mission 268 00:12:19,869 --> 00:12:22,785 to bring him back so they could save their son. 269 00:12:22,916 --> 00:12:25,701 When they see what Morgan is going through, 270 00:12:25,832 --> 00:12:28,486 there's a lot of compassion. 271 00:12:28,617 --> 00:12:29,661 Duane? 272 00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:32,316 And you sort of see these two 273 00:12:32,447 --> 00:12:34,275 parents mirroring each other. 274 00:12:34,405 --> 00:12:36,407 Morgan is essentially going through 275 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:38,018 the same thing with his son. 276 00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:43,763 Elfman: For June, Padre is the exact opposite 277 00:12:43,893 --> 00:12:46,591 of everything June stands for. 278 00:12:46,722 --> 00:12:49,943 Her whole purpose is to help, and once she left Padre, 279 00:12:50,073 --> 00:12:52,554 the only way she could still help 280 00:12:52,684 --> 00:12:56,165 is by somehow disabling the collectors. 281 00:12:57,298 --> 00:13:00,518 And she did that by cutting off their trigger fingers. 282 00:13:02,303 --> 00:13:06,786 Padre has survived for so long because it was mostly 283 00:13:06,916 --> 00:13:09,005 young people that were being controlled. 284 00:13:09,136 --> 00:13:13,183 Elfman: There's been no forces for good that are strong enough 285 00:13:13,314 --> 00:13:14,881 to overtake Padre. 286 00:13:15,011 --> 00:13:16,447 And we're all separated. 287 00:13:16,578 --> 00:13:17,884 Woman: Hands up! 288 00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:20,582 Blades: The army that Daniel has trained, 289 00:13:20,712 --> 00:13:24,586 this army of parents, it has proven pretty effective. 290 00:13:24,716 --> 00:13:26,327 Padre has lied to all of us. 291 00:13:26,457 --> 00:13:28,938 Maybe we can find out what else he's lied about. 292 00:13:29,069 --> 00:13:30,635 Together. 293 00:13:30,766 --> 00:13:32,028 We'll let the commander decide. 294 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:33,160 Who's the commander? 295 00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:34,988 Daniel: Turn around. 296 00:13:35,118 --> 00:13:36,946 What Daniel has done is to give them a purpose, 297 00:13:37,077 --> 00:13:39,993 an organization, and a leadership. 298 00:13:40,123 --> 00:13:42,038 Madison? 299 00:13:42,169 --> 00:13:43,344 Daniel? 300 00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:44,736 You know these people? 301 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:46,608 Give them back their weapons. 302 00:13:46,738 --> 00:13:49,611 Blades: Daniel's family is gone, but now he's going to try to get 303 00:13:49,741 --> 00:13:51,874 these people their families back. 304 00:13:52,005 --> 00:13:55,835 And Padre is a place where he can make that possible. 305 00:13:55,965 --> 00:13:58,663 Daniel: All these people lost their children to Padre. 306 00:13:58,794 --> 00:14:01,971 And there are more of them. Maybe your own parents. 307 00:14:02,102 --> 00:14:03,538 Madison. 308 00:14:03,668 --> 00:14:05,279 We'll hold them off. Go. 309 00:14:05,409 --> 00:14:08,891 When Madison and June and Dove storm into Padre 310 00:14:09,022 --> 00:14:13,983 to have him show himself, Madison smashes the mirror. 311 00:14:19,162 --> 00:14:22,252 We discover that it's a very young man in there, 312 00:14:22,383 --> 00:14:23,427 Shrike's brother. 313 00:14:23,558 --> 00:14:24,776 Eshet: The secret revealed, 314 00:14:24,907 --> 00:14:28,128 is a huge danger for the entire operation. 315 00:14:28,258 --> 00:14:30,782 What they're risking is that all of the members of the community 316 00:14:30,913 --> 00:14:32,393 are going to turn against them, 317 00:14:32,523 --> 00:14:34,308 and then everything could collapse. 318 00:14:34,438 --> 00:14:37,920 Do you know the truth about Padre? 319 00:14:38,051 --> 00:14:41,489 There is no Padre. He's been dead for a long time. 320 00:14:41,619 --> 00:14:45,841 Given the fact that Padre was all built on just a series of 321 00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:48,235 lies, a series of playing people off each other... 322 00:14:48,365 --> 00:14:50,193 Guns up! 323 00:14:50,324 --> 00:14:52,065 ...and because Shrike and Crane were trying to prevent 324 00:14:52,195 --> 00:14:54,719 anyone else from feeling any kind of loss, 325 00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:58,288 that kind of absolute I think is just what ultimately made it 326 00:14:58,419 --> 00:15:00,638 inevitable that it would fall. 327 00:15:04,729 --> 00:15:07,210 You were just given an order! 328 00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:09,473 Fire. 329 00:15:10,561 --> 00:15:11,954 They won't do it. 330 00:15:12,085 --> 00:15:14,696 I think ultimately people do need connection. 331 00:15:14,826 --> 00:15:19,179 People need family and to build a community. 332 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:23,923 Goldberg: More and more people start to kind of tear down this 333 00:15:24,053 --> 00:15:27,883 wall of what Padre has built and what was behind it. 334 00:15:28,014 --> 00:15:31,104 And even though it hurts more to connect with people 335 00:15:31,234 --> 00:15:33,193 that you might lose, it's still better 336 00:15:33,323 --> 00:15:36,674 than walling yourself off from that connection. 337 00:15:39,547 --> 00:15:42,115 Morgan didn't just fight Padre this season. 338 00:15:42,245 --> 00:15:45,031 He fought some serious inner demons, as well. 339 00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:48,121 There was no telling when he went into his red fugue state 340 00:15:48,251 --> 00:15:51,994 whether he might kill anyone and anything around him. 341 00:15:52,125 --> 00:15:53,778 No! 342 00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:56,259 Lennie James talks about how and why this happened, 343 00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:59,132 and cast and crew take us through how they created 344 00:15:59,262 --> 00:16:02,483 the action on a sinking houseboat full of walkers 345 00:16:02,613 --> 00:16:04,964 with Morgan seeing red. 346 00:16:08,489 --> 00:16:12,145 [Indistinct voices shouting] 347 00:16:12,275 --> 00:16:14,190 Morgan: I can't! 348 00:16:14,321 --> 00:16:18,325 This is Morgan's version of post traumatic stress. 349 00:16:18,455 --> 00:16:19,587 Easy! Madison! 350 00:16:19,717 --> 00:16:21,763 Easy there. What happened? 351 00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:25,027 He doesn't remember when he's in the red state. 352 00:16:25,158 --> 00:16:28,161 The audience actually get a vision of Morgan 353 00:16:28,291 --> 00:16:29,553 that he never sees. 354 00:16:29,684 --> 00:16:32,165 My ax! Where is my ax?! 355 00:16:32,295 --> 00:16:35,385 He's trying to document this version of himself. 356 00:16:35,516 --> 00:16:38,301 He's trying to write down "Morgan was here," 357 00:16:38,432 --> 00:16:43,263 and it just comes out in broken, disjointed graffiti. 358 00:16:44,351 --> 00:16:47,528 The reason why this has all woken up in him 359 00:16:47,658 --> 00:16:52,315 is because Morgan has taken on the responsibility of Mo. 360 00:16:52,446 --> 00:16:54,056 What does clear mean? 361 00:16:54,187 --> 00:16:59,148 Clear? It's when I was killing anything and anyone. 362 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:01,194 If I can't look after her now, 363 00:17:01,324 --> 00:17:03,674 I might not be able to do it in the future. 364 00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:05,720 I might not be able to keep this child alive. 365 00:17:05,849 --> 00:17:07,374 Dad, help me! 366 00:17:07,503 --> 00:17:08,983 That is what blacks him out. 367 00:17:09,115 --> 00:17:12,378 That is what sends him into the red. 368 00:17:15,904 --> 00:17:17,775 Before the take, I'd try and hold my breath 369 00:17:17,906 --> 00:17:19,299 for as long as it's humanly possible. 370 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:21,692 It's like he's coming out from being underwater. 371 00:17:21,823 --> 00:17:24,304 And he just needs to get to the surface. 372 00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:28,395 And when he gets out of it, he's gasping that air in. 373 00:17:28,525 --> 00:17:30,223 Woman: Morgan! 374 00:17:30,353 --> 00:17:31,876 [Gasps] 375 00:17:32,007 --> 00:17:35,097 James: We kept reminding everybody who was around Morgan 376 00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:38,013 in those episodes that what they had seen 377 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:40,233 was someone to be frightened of. 378 00:17:40,363 --> 00:17:41,973 Did I hurt you? 379 00:17:42,104 --> 00:17:43,671 Managed to stay out of your way. 380 00:17:43,801 --> 00:17:46,587 There's a reason why Morgan has lasted this long. 381 00:17:46,717 --> 00:17:48,067 When he's in the fugue state, 382 00:17:48,197 --> 00:17:51,244 he is capable of serious destruction. 383 00:17:51,374 --> 00:17:53,159 [Screams] 384 00:17:53,289 --> 00:17:55,117 McLean: We worked with the show runner 385 00:17:55,248 --> 00:17:58,686 to develop a very interesting effect for the Red Fugue states. 386 00:17:58,816 --> 00:18:00,557 We wanted a texture to it. 387 00:18:00,688 --> 00:18:03,647 Some of the things I used was like melting paint inside of oil 388 00:18:03,778 --> 00:18:05,519 so that it swirled. 389 00:18:05,649 --> 00:18:08,130 And then we had to figure out what is the best type of shot. 390 00:18:08,261 --> 00:18:10,132 You want it to be close on his face so that 391 00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:11,829 he can shift, and the background, just shoom. 392 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,875 And then speed. 393 00:18:14,005 --> 00:18:16,051 A lot of it has to do with timing. 394 00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:17,922 One of the last pieces was an overlay. 395 00:18:18,053 --> 00:18:21,056 What is something that floats on top of the screen? 396 00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:23,319 We sourced medical images of eyeballs, 397 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:27,106 so he's kind of in his mind's eye, literally. 398 00:18:27,889 --> 00:18:29,804 [Speaking indistinctly] 399 00:18:31,849 --> 00:18:33,851 I think it's going to be a really cool effect. 400 00:18:33,982 --> 00:18:35,070 [Grunts] 401 00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:36,637 Sorry! 402 00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:38,943 You started killing, and then it was like 403 00:18:39,074 --> 00:18:39,988 you thought I was one of them. 404 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,207 It's okay. 405 00:18:41,337 --> 00:18:44,340 Man: Ready. Three, two, one. Action. 406 00:18:44,471 --> 00:18:48,083 Today, the scenes that I'm shooting are where Morgan and Mo 407 00:18:48,214 --> 00:18:50,694 are stuck in the houseboat fighting the walkers 408 00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:53,088 while the water is rising. 409 00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:55,438 [Walkers growling] 410 00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:59,007 It does feel like I am in a sinking boat 411 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:01,749 because it happened so quickly. 412 00:19:01,879 --> 00:19:03,968 Armstrong: There's a progression in terms of the sinking. 413 00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:06,319 We started on two different set pieces we had. 414 00:19:06,449 --> 00:19:09,104 One was on airbags that we could control 415 00:19:09,235 --> 00:19:12,368 a small, slight descent into the swamp, 416 00:19:12,499 --> 00:19:16,851 and then we transitioned to our full dunk tank. 417 00:19:18,244 --> 00:19:20,202 Iudica: And we have a 120-ton crane 418 00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:23,336 to gently lower this set piece underwater. 419 00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:25,251 When we sink the boat, we'll sink it level, 420 00:19:25,381 --> 00:19:27,818 but it'll look like it's at an angle. 421 00:19:27,949 --> 00:19:29,994 Platform weighs about 15,000 pounds, 422 00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:34,434 so it gives us room for about 20 or so people on board. 423 00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:37,915 We control the speed, we control the stops and the starts. 424 00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:41,223 There's always a safe exit. 425 00:19:41,354 --> 00:19:44,444 We have water pumps that will create a lot of wake 426 00:19:44,574 --> 00:19:47,969 and agitation so you can get water on the surface to ripple 427 00:19:48,099 --> 00:19:50,319 towards them or you can bounce water off the wall, 428 00:19:50,450 --> 00:19:53,409 and then also compressed air to add bubbles 429 00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:58,153 as if all of the air pockets in the boat are releasing. 430 00:20:01,852 --> 00:20:03,419 Mo, give me my ax! 431 00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:06,030 McLean: When we're in the swamps, VFX is here to help 432 00:20:06,161 --> 00:20:08,250 make things that are safe seem dangerous. 433 00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:11,079 So any time there's a safety wire or a rig 434 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:14,561 or if there's hoses to keep the water level in the right place, 435 00:20:14,691 --> 00:20:17,738 if we see that in the shot, we can paint that out later. 436 00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:19,174 [Grunts] 437 00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:21,307 Come on. I can help you. 438 00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:22,743 I've got it. 439 00:20:22,873 --> 00:20:24,092 You know, we have zombies stuck in the mud. 440 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:25,485 We have people fighting on the houseboat. 441 00:20:25,615 --> 00:20:27,617 The houseboat is sinking. It's a wild scene. 442 00:20:27,748 --> 00:20:29,315 [Walkers growling] 443 00:20:29,445 --> 00:20:31,055 [Grunts] 444 00:20:31,186 --> 00:20:32,709 McLean: We make it super controlled and super safe 445 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,668 on set, and with a little help from our stunt department 446 00:20:34,798 --> 00:20:35,843 and a little help from VFX, 447 00:20:35,973 --> 00:20:37,453 we make it look really dangerous. 448 00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:39,020 [Grunts] 449 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:40,978 Morgan: You're gonna make it out of here, Mo. 450 00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:45,331 A big part of Morgan's story this season was his need 451 00:20:45,461 --> 00:20:46,897 to deal with his trauma. 452 00:20:47,028 --> 00:20:49,030 That's why he returned to his home in King County 453 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,816 to put his wife Jenny and son Duane to rest after so long. 454 00:20:52,947 --> 00:20:54,862 Sorry it took me so long. 455 00:20:54,992 --> 00:20:56,559 Wolfe: Over 10 years later, 456 00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:59,127 this iconic place we know from "The Walking Dead" pilot 457 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:02,086 was recreated thanks to show runners Ian Goldberg 458 00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:05,699 and Andrew Chambliss, along with the design and FX teams. 459 00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:07,831 It was a powerful journey for Morgan, 460 00:21:07,962 --> 00:21:11,270 and it ends in devastation when his moment of peace 461 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,011 is shattered by Grace getting bitten. 462 00:21:14,142 --> 00:21:15,970 [Walkers growling] 463 00:21:20,104 --> 00:21:22,629 Man: We just add a puff of smoke. 464 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:24,892 Two cameras. 465 00:21:25,022 --> 00:21:27,938 We knew as soon as we started talking about season 8 466 00:21:28,069 --> 00:21:32,334 that this was going to be a crucial episode for Morgan, 467 00:21:32,465 --> 00:21:35,511 and his journey, was taking him back to King County, 468 00:21:35,642 --> 00:21:38,471 which is where his journey began as a character, 469 00:21:38,601 --> 00:21:41,256 way back on the pilot of "The Walking Dead." 470 00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:42,518 He say something? 471 00:21:42,649 --> 00:21:44,128 Thought I heard him say something. 472 00:21:44,259 --> 00:21:46,348 He called me Carl.Son, you know they don't talk. 473 00:21:46,479 --> 00:21:49,264 But it was kind of a tall order. to say to ourselves like, 474 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:51,832 "Okay, if we're going to go back to this location, 475 00:21:51,962 --> 00:21:56,140 these sets, where the entire kind of Walking Dead universe 476 00:21:56,271 --> 00:21:58,273 began, you know, we had to have a story 477 00:21:58,404 --> 00:21:59,796 that really justified it. 478 00:21:59,927 --> 00:22:02,669 Over here. Come on. 479 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:07,848 And I have to give just huge, huge props to our entire team 480 00:22:07,978 --> 00:22:11,330 and our production designer, Russell and his team, 481 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:14,942 who rebuilt the house with painstaking detail 482 00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:17,510 to match exactly what was there, 483 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,642 which was no easy feat, considering the last time 484 00:22:19,773 --> 00:22:22,471 we saw that house was over 10 years ago, 485 00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:25,256 and it felt like stepping into the past. 486 00:22:25,387 --> 00:22:26,519 Daddy. 487 00:22:26,649 --> 00:22:27,781 Bless him. 488 00:22:27,911 --> 00:22:29,435 The work that they did on their own 489 00:22:29,565 --> 00:22:31,872 recreating that place was fantastic. 490 00:22:32,002 --> 00:22:33,743 Jaeger: Obviously, we had to do a tremendous amount of research 491 00:22:33,874 --> 00:22:36,964 to create what is just an iconic space 492 00:22:37,094 --> 00:22:39,793 and then take that space to its ultimate demise 493 00:22:39,923 --> 00:22:43,884 of destroying this iconic piece of Walking Dead history. 494 00:22:44,014 --> 00:22:46,365 Mo: Dad, I'm upstairs. I can't get out. 495 00:22:46,495 --> 00:22:49,368 Get to the attic, Mo. I'm on my way to you. 496 00:22:49,933 --> 00:22:52,893 When my agent sent me the e-mail, 497 00:22:53,023 --> 00:22:55,417 I literally asked him, was he serious? 498 00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:57,854 And then I said, "Well, I guess you are." [Laughs] 499 00:22:57,985 --> 00:22:59,900 And then I said yes. 500 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:02,293 [Walkers growling] 501 00:23:02,424 --> 00:23:04,818 It was so exciting to bring Jenny back. 502 00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:07,603 And the image of Jenny as a walker 503 00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:09,605 standing outside that house, 504 00:23:09,736 --> 00:23:13,130 it's just so kind of rooted in The Walking Dead's history. 505 00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:16,395 It was like we were right back in "The Walking Dead" pilot. 506 00:23:16,525 --> 00:23:19,572 It was great to see her, and I think it's a real testament 507 00:23:19,702 --> 00:23:22,531 to this particular universe that such things can happen. 508 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:25,012 [Shouts indistinctly] 509 00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:28,581 I'm on my way! 510 00:23:28,711 --> 00:23:30,626 Chambliss: Through a combination of some makeup effects 511 00:23:30,757 --> 00:23:33,803 and then some visual effects, we were able to recreate 512 00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:35,326 walker Duane in those final moments, 513 00:23:35,457 --> 00:23:37,807 when we finally saw him up in that attic. 514 00:23:37,938 --> 00:23:39,156 Seeing the walker... 515 00:23:39,287 --> 00:23:40,288 Please! 516 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:43,944 ...Duane as alive Duane, 517 00:23:44,074 --> 00:23:46,294 it's about that battle that... 518 00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:47,904 Help!...Morgan's having with himself. 519 00:23:48,035 --> 00:23:50,124 Daddy! Daddy. 520 00:23:54,694 --> 00:23:56,435 ♪ 521 00:23:56,565 --> 00:23:58,654 McLean: They tore down the house that was built 522 00:23:58,785 --> 00:24:00,874 and then made it look like it had been burnt down. 523 00:24:01,004 --> 00:24:03,311 And it's super weird to see something that you were just 524 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:05,835 here for the night before be completely transformed 525 00:24:05,966 --> 00:24:09,317 into something different for the next scene. 526 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,319 David: It's a home full of memories, 527 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,974 a home full of history, a home full of love, 528 00:24:14,104 --> 00:24:16,672 a home full of heartache. 529 00:24:16,803 --> 00:24:21,416 And to see that all be obliterated so quickly, 530 00:24:21,547 --> 00:24:24,288 like even me as Karen, I was just watching this. 531 00:24:24,419 --> 00:24:27,161 I was so heartbroken in that moment. 532 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:31,426 James: When he buries Duane and Jenny, 533 00:24:31,557 --> 00:24:34,603 I think he thinks he's at peace. 534 00:24:34,734 --> 00:24:37,040 We do what we said we were gonna. 535 00:24:37,171 --> 00:24:40,130 Spend as much time together as we can. 536 00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:43,656 Goldberg: I think Morgan does have a moment of peace 537 00:24:43,786 --> 00:24:46,006 when he's burying Jenny and Duane. 538 00:24:46,136 --> 00:24:49,749 And the tragic part of it is that just as that happens... 539 00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:52,055 [Screams] Dad! 540 00:24:52,186 --> 00:24:53,796 ...Grace gets bit. 541 00:24:53,927 --> 00:24:55,450 Come on. [Grunts] 542 00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:57,626 Morgan's love story was one of the things 543 00:24:57,757 --> 00:25:00,499 that was hardest for us to achieve, 544 00:25:00,629 --> 00:25:03,458 and I don't think we could have done that 545 00:25:03,589 --> 00:25:06,766 without an actress of Karen's caliber, really. 546 00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:09,595 Man: And cut. 547 00:25:10,073 --> 00:25:13,512 Kenneth Requa did such a beautiful job directing it. 548 00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:16,210 We're really happy with how it turned out. 549 00:25:17,733 --> 00:25:20,127 And cut. Great. Let's move on. 550 00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:24,697 Not so easy to move on from an episode like this. 551 00:25:24,827 --> 00:25:28,918 And seeing that walker bite on Grace, it hurts. 552 00:25:29,049 --> 00:25:32,182 The end of the first half of this final season 553 00:25:32,313 --> 00:25:35,708 sadly takes us to the end of our time with Grace and Morgan 554 00:25:35,838 --> 00:25:38,580 and with Karen David and Lennie James, 555 00:25:38,711 --> 00:25:40,713 who talk about the Grace/Morgan love story, 556 00:25:40,843 --> 00:25:43,542 saying goodbye to these powerful characters, 557 00:25:43,672 --> 00:25:46,196 and what the show has meant to them. 558 00:25:46,327 --> 00:25:47,937 We also hear from their fellow cast 559 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:51,724 and the show runners as they pay tribute to this beloved duo. 560 00:25:53,377 --> 00:25:55,118 [Walker growling] 561 00:25:56,424 --> 00:25:57,947 [Gunshot] 562 00:26:01,908 --> 00:26:04,954 James: When Morgan walked in on "Fear", 563 00:26:05,085 --> 00:26:06,739 he had holes in his shoes, 564 00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:10,307 his boots were held together by tape, he was alone, 565 00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:13,136 he was friendless, frightened. 566 00:26:13,267 --> 00:26:14,964 He wanted to avoid people. 567 00:26:15,095 --> 00:26:16,357 Man: Are you sure you're going to be 568 00:26:16,487 --> 00:26:17,488 all right out there on your own? 569 00:26:17,619 --> 00:26:20,927 This world, we're always alone. 570 00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:27,673 Grace: Take off your clothes. All of them. 571 00:26:27,803 --> 00:26:30,893 Grace is such a vital character toward Morgan's journey. 572 00:26:31,024 --> 00:26:33,766 I've always been a kind of serious guy. 573 00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:35,463 Really? 574 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,596 The journey that this love story has to go on has to go on 575 00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:39,249 the fact that this is a man 576 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:42,470 who is not in any way aware of the possibility 577 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:44,559 of loving anybody apart from his dead wife. 578 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:47,780 So this has to take him by surprise. 579 00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:49,346 And that's a hell of a job to do. 580 00:26:49,477 --> 00:26:51,740 And Karen did it. 581 00:26:53,829 --> 00:26:56,440 David: When Morgan lay, Duane and Jenny to rest, 582 00:26:56,571 --> 00:26:59,487 there was this sense of finality, closure, 583 00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:01,358 this beautiful sense of peace. 584 00:27:01,489 --> 00:27:04,710 It was sort of a 1-2 punch of wanting to feel like right 585 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,931 at that moment of maximum hope, 586 00:27:09,062 --> 00:27:12,456 a walker punches through a rubble. 587 00:27:12,587 --> 00:27:14,241 David: What a parent will do for their child, 588 00:27:14,371 --> 00:27:15,416 they will die for their child. 589 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:17,679 And she saw her daughter in danger, 590 00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:20,639 and she just acted like any parent would have. 591 00:27:20,769 --> 00:27:22,423 It's just heartbreaking in that moment 592 00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:24,120 because whatever happiness and lightness 593 00:27:24,251 --> 00:27:26,819 that this family, you know, the three of them could have, 594 00:27:26,949 --> 00:27:29,430 you want that so much for them, and that's now been robbed. 595 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,779 Grace, I don't think I'm going to 596 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,520 make it to you before -- 597 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,783 I tell you, filming my last moments with Lenny 598 00:27:34,914 --> 00:27:36,045 was really tough. 599 00:27:36,176 --> 00:27:37,830 I'm so sorry, Morgan. 600 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,615 David: Being on the walkie and doing that scene 601 00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:42,922 was just so incredibly heartbreaking. 602 00:27:43,052 --> 00:27:44,314 [Growling] 603 00:27:44,445 --> 00:27:45,838 David: When Grace is a walker, 604 00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:48,275 it was hard to watch even on the playback. 605 00:27:48,405 --> 00:27:51,452 There's so much love in how 606 00:27:51,582 --> 00:27:54,934 Morgan just gently laid her down. 607 00:27:55,064 --> 00:27:57,676 When we lose characters on this show or characters die, 608 00:27:57,806 --> 00:27:59,199 we want it to mean something, 609 00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:01,767 we want it to leave an emotional ripple. 610 00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:04,073 And Karen definitely did that. 611 00:28:04,204 --> 00:28:06,815 James: The way we finished with Grace is a real testament 612 00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:09,209 to the job that Karen's done, really. 613 00:28:09,339 --> 00:28:10,514 It's supposed to hurt. 614 00:28:10,645 --> 00:28:12,125 It's supposed to break your heart. 615 00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:14,083 You're supposed to be angry. 616 00:28:14,214 --> 00:28:18,261 All of those things come into play because we're losing Karen. 617 00:28:18,392 --> 00:28:22,396 She is like a bright light. She's just sunshine. 618 00:28:22,526 --> 00:28:24,311 I'm proud to have worked with her. 619 00:28:24,441 --> 00:28:27,967 I feel blessed that we had this journey together. 620 00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:31,971 Both women, both Grace and Karen, 621 00:28:32,101 --> 00:28:38,281 are just these lovely sort of self-sacrificial women. 622 00:28:38,412 --> 00:28:39,718 It's always hard to say goodbye. 623 00:28:39,848 --> 00:28:43,591 Saying goodbye to Karen David is not easy 624 00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,288 because she's truly one of the loveliest 625 00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:47,290 human beings to work with. 626 00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:50,380 When I think of her, I think of her as a bouquet of flowers. 627 00:28:50,511 --> 00:28:52,426 [Applause] 628 00:28:55,908 --> 00:28:59,172 David: The family that we've created with our crew, 629 00:28:59,302 --> 00:29:01,087 our creatives, our cast, 630 00:29:01,217 --> 00:29:03,698 the beautiful thing about this whole experience 631 00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:08,355 of being part of this universe is that you take the people 632 00:29:08,485 --> 00:29:13,403 in your hearts and you take them on your journey wherever you go. 633 00:29:13,534 --> 00:29:15,928 They are a part of who I am now. 634 00:29:18,104 --> 00:29:22,195 Morgan: The way out is opening the door to people, 635 00:29:22,325 --> 00:29:26,155 to possibility, to the hurt that will happen. 636 00:29:26,286 --> 00:29:28,418 I've found the way, and I opened the door, 637 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:30,986 and then my life started all over again. 638 00:29:31,117 --> 00:29:33,075 Chambliss: Lenny has been such a fixture 639 00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:35,121 since Ian and I started in season 4, 640 00:29:35,251 --> 00:29:38,254 and he's been such a fixture of The Walking Dead universe 641 00:29:38,385 --> 00:29:42,998 that it's really hard to imagine making this show without him. 642 00:29:43,129 --> 00:29:45,784 I'm a bit in denial that Lenny's gone, to be honest. 643 00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:48,047 He's been such a vital part of the journey. 644 00:29:48,177 --> 00:29:51,528 I think he's an inspiration. Truly, he's one of a kind. 645 00:29:51,659 --> 00:29:55,663 We'll be forever grateful to Lenny for his time with us. 646 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:59,101 Lenny has been such a tremendous part of it 647 00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:00,407 once he joined the show. 648 00:30:00,537 --> 00:30:01,974 It's been great to play adversaries. 649 00:30:02,104 --> 00:30:03,845 I truly hope that I get the chance 650 00:30:03,976 --> 00:30:06,805 to create with him other characters in the future. 651 00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:09,068 But for now, I know I have a brother and a friend. 652 00:30:09,198 --> 00:30:12,201 Dickens: Lenny James could not have been more open to me 653 00:30:12,332 --> 00:30:15,683 and gracious in welcoming me back. 654 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,251 He's been an incredible inspiration to watch 655 00:30:18,381 --> 00:30:21,820 and to work with, and he lives in our hearts. 656 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:24,648 Elfman: I really look up to Lenny James as an actor. 657 00:30:24,779 --> 00:30:28,348 Every chapter of Morgan has that essence to him, 658 00:30:28,478 --> 00:30:32,439 just that benevolent heart that he gets to walk away with. 659 00:30:32,569 --> 00:30:34,963 Mo, I think, is super beautiful. 660 00:30:35,094 --> 00:30:38,271 To recognize for himself that he has found love, 661 00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:41,143 that he's capable of love, that he's capable of giving again. 662 00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:44,538 And so he leaves with the cup so full. 663 00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:49,021 James: When Morgan walks away from "Fear", 664 00:30:49,151 --> 00:30:51,893 he has a child, he has made friends, 665 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:55,070 he's lost friends, and he's had an effect on them. 666 00:30:55,201 --> 00:30:58,682 And he leaves them better than he found them. 667 00:30:58,813 --> 00:31:02,034 You can't really ask for much more than that. 668 00:31:02,164 --> 00:31:05,428 Morgan: This message is for Rick Grimes. 669 00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,822 It's Morgan Jones. 670 00:31:07,953 --> 00:31:10,303 Man, I'm going to come and look for you. 671 00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:15,221 Who knows? Maybe you might even be listening. 672 00:31:27,624 --> 00:31:29,409 Goodbyes are never easy, 673 00:31:29,539 --> 00:31:32,325 and neither is finding love in the apocalypse. 674 00:31:32,455 --> 00:31:33,630 But Grace and Morgan did it. 675 00:31:35,197 --> 00:31:37,721 AMC has partnered with the organization 676 00:31:37,852 --> 00:31:39,680 See Her to celebrate the women of 677 00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:40,986 "Fear The Walking Dead." 678 00:31:41,116 --> 00:31:42,335 I'm not gonna hurt you. 679 00:31:42,465 --> 00:31:44,076 We put that spotlight on Kim Dickens, 680 00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:46,513 who talked about her portrayal of Madison Clark 681 00:31:46,643 --> 00:31:48,645 and her fight against Padre. 682 00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:49,777 Mo ended up at Padre because of me. 683 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:51,257 Let me try to make this right. 684 00:31:51,387 --> 00:31:52,911 With a formidable performance like Kim's, 685 00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:56,697 it's no wonder Padre was so scared of Madison. 686 00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:03,312 Padre: Do you really want to do this? 687 00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:04,923 There's nothing you could do to me 688 00:32:05,053 --> 00:32:06,750 that's worse than what I'm already living. 689 00:32:06,881 --> 00:32:07,926 Dickens: Madison has said it over and over. 690 00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:09,753 She's got nothing left to lose. 691 00:32:09,884 --> 00:32:13,366 Once she's able to break free from Padre's imprisonment 692 00:32:13,496 --> 00:32:15,324 and starts the rescue mission, 693 00:32:15,455 --> 00:32:18,240 that's the only thing that gives Madison a will to live, 694 00:32:18,371 --> 00:32:20,503 is to make up for the wrongs she's done 695 00:32:20,634 --> 00:32:23,245 by reuniting these families. 696 00:32:23,376 --> 00:32:24,638 Seriously? 697 00:32:24,768 --> 00:32:27,119 Coming back to the show was very interesting 698 00:32:27,249 --> 00:32:30,339 because I'd never worked with Lenny. 699 00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:33,952 I'd never worked with Morgan Jones. 700 00:32:34,082 --> 00:32:36,084 Back on that beach, I said I was going 701 00:32:36,215 --> 00:32:37,346 to save your daughter. 702 00:32:37,477 --> 00:32:38,782 I also said I was going to save you. 703 00:32:38,913 --> 00:32:39,958 I guess that's what I'm going to have to do. 704 00:32:40,088 --> 00:32:41,133 We don't need saved. 705 00:32:41,263 --> 00:32:44,179 Those two unlikely travel partners, 706 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:47,617 Morgan and Madison, or as I like to call them, M&M, 707 00:32:47,748 --> 00:32:52,709 they have an amazing knowledge and insight into each other. 708 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,929 Go. I'll draw them away. 709 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,626 We fell right into step with each other. 710 00:32:56,757 --> 00:32:59,194 I spent seven years in a cell so you could be with her. 711 00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:02,371 This isn't about you.I'm doing this for her. 712 00:33:02,502 --> 00:33:04,112 I got to fight him. 713 00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:05,853 We were fighting like our day one 714 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,333 of getting to know each other. 715 00:33:07,463 --> 00:33:09,074 -[Screams] -[Groans] 716 00:33:09,204 --> 00:33:12,294 I think she spots very early on that Morgan needs to do 717 00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:13,904 what Morgan needs to do. 718 00:33:14,035 --> 00:33:15,776 It's happening again. 719 00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:18,735 Dickens: As far as Madison's arc goes, I think you finally see 720 00:33:18,866 --> 00:33:20,563 a glimmer of the old Madison, 721 00:33:20,694 --> 00:33:24,350 the warrior and the person who's going to make things right. 722 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,092 And for me, I thought that was astounding. 723 00:33:27,222 --> 00:33:29,398 Goldberg: Kim Dickens is such a force. 724 00:33:29,529 --> 00:33:33,446 That role is such an iconic role in not just 725 00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:36,318 "Fear The Walking Dead," but in the Walking Dead universe. 726 00:33:36,449 --> 00:33:38,973 And this season, Madison realizes that she's got 727 00:33:39,104 --> 00:33:40,322 a decision to make. 728 00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:41,889 Who is she going to be, 729 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,457 and how is she going to protect the settlement? 730 00:33:44,587 --> 00:33:46,850 [Walkers growling] 731 00:33:48,113 --> 00:33:51,072 So with Morgan passing the leadership torch to Madison 732 00:33:51,203 --> 00:33:54,423 and Padre's leaders going down, there are some big questions 733 00:33:54,554 --> 00:33:56,860 to be answered before the series concludes. 734 00:33:56,991 --> 00:33:59,341 Can Madison make Padre into something good? 735 00:33:59,472 --> 00:34:01,430 Will Dwight and Sherry be able to help? 736 00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:04,085 Will they even be around? Will June? 737 00:34:04,216 --> 00:34:06,000 And of course, there are a bunch of folks 738 00:34:06,131 --> 00:34:07,523 we haven't seen in a while. 739 00:34:07,654 --> 00:34:10,178 Like, say, Victor Strand. 740 00:34:10,309 --> 00:34:20,362 ♪ 741 00:34:21,014 --> 00:34:23,190 Now, why was he calling you Anton? 742 00:34:23,322 --> 00:34:26,237 It's such a gigantic task to think about bringing 743 00:34:26,368 --> 00:34:28,978 all these stories, all these character journeys, 744 00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:30,416 not just to a conclusion, 745 00:34:30,545 --> 00:34:32,592 but also kind of bringing them full circle. 746 00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:33,810 Come here. 747 00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:35,899 When we started to think about 748 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:37,684 where do we want these characters to end up, 749 00:34:37,813 --> 00:34:40,860 it actually led to the question of, well, where did they start? 750 00:34:40,991 --> 00:34:43,385 [Grunts] 751 00:34:44,429 --> 00:34:46,867 Chambliss: We wanted to look back at these characters 752 00:34:46,996 --> 00:34:48,956 from their very beginnings on the show 753 00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:53,873 and look at who they were back then and who they were now, 754 00:34:54,004 --> 00:34:57,356 and we could see how far they've come. 755 00:34:57,486 --> 00:35:00,054 Goldberg: With each of the characters, to a certain degree, 756 00:35:00,185 --> 00:35:01,969 in the back half of this season, 757 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,493 they have to look back in order to look forward. 758 00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:07,279 I drew that when we were both living here. 759 00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:09,933 And the theme that kept coming to the front 760 00:35:10,064 --> 00:35:13,676 of our minds was just this idea of family. 761 00:35:13,807 --> 00:35:18,638 If I just did it differently, they both might be here. 762 00:35:18,768 --> 00:35:20,509 And it all started with Madison Clark. 763 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,426 She was this matriarch at the beginning of the apocalypse 764 00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:27,386 who always wanted to protect her kids, 765 00:35:27,516 --> 00:35:29,692 who wanted to create a world where they could be safe, 766 00:35:29,823 --> 00:35:31,303 who wanted to give them something that 767 00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,131 really didn't exist anymore. 768 00:35:33,261 --> 00:35:34,349 You missed breakfast. 769 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,742 The kid needs a place of her own. 770 00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:37,047 I was thinking about putting the bed over here. 771 00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,485 It all kind of boils down to the story 772 00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:41,530 and the story you want to tell, 773 00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:45,491 the story that we think will bring together all the themes, 774 00:35:45,621 --> 00:35:48,233 all the characters, everyone's stories in a way 775 00:35:48,363 --> 00:35:50,539 that will feel satisfying 776 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:54,152 and also feel like it has some real finality to it. 777 00:35:55,631 --> 00:35:57,677 [Walkers growling] 778 00:35:57,807 --> 00:35:59,679 I'm going to help you. 779 00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:01,594 You're going to help me. 780 00:36:01,724 --> 00:36:03,639 Help you do what? 781 00:36:04,988 --> 00:36:06,773 Save Padre. 782 00:36:07,774 --> 00:36:09,863 I can't wait to see how it all turns out 783 00:36:09,993 --> 00:36:12,213 in the final episodes. 784 00:36:12,344 --> 00:36:14,128 And for fans of The Walking Dead universe, 785 00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:17,349 there is so much to look forward to on AMC. 786 00:36:17,479 --> 00:36:19,699 We're going to make Padre what it was meant to be 787 00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:21,048 in the first place. 788 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,484 Thanks for watching "Show Me More", 789 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,573 and thanks for watching "Fear The Walking Dead." 790 00:36:24,704 --> 00:36:27,794 Remember, you can catch episodes of "Fear The Walking Dead" 791 00:36:27,924 --> 00:36:31,928 on AMC Plus, the AMC site and apps, and on demand. 792 00:36:32,059 --> 00:36:34,888 Until next time, I'm Clark Wolfe. 793 00:36:36,498 --> 00:36:45,115 ♪ 794 00:36:45,246 --> 00:36:54,342 ♪ 795 00:36:54,473 --> 00:37:03,221 ♪ 61830

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