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[slow dramatic music]
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[rain pattering]
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- It was a really bad rainy day.
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I decided to hitchhike.
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I thought that he was
just a normal man.
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He showed me his ID and
I was just thinking,
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"I'm going to get home and
everything's going to be fine."
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Little did I know it was going
to be my worst nightmare.
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[dramatic music]
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[dramatic music]
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- [Man] Five of the most
prolific serial killers
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in American history were all
operating at the same time.
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- [Reporter 1] John Wayne Gacy-
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- [Reporter 2] Ted Bundy-
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- [Reporter 3] BTK.
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- [Reporter 4] Jeffrey Dahmer-
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- [Reporter 5] The so-called
Green River Killer.
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- [Man] This was the golden
age of serial killing.
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- I mean, if you
kill 30-some people
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and you never got caught,
you begin to think
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you're never gonna get caught.
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But the biggest mistake John
Gacy made was Robert Piest.
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That was the
beginning of the end.
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- [Reporter] Officers
armed with warrants
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began searching the premises
for the bodies of young men
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believed to have been
killed and buried there.
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- Gary Ridgway worked
for 30-plus years
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at the Kenworth
plant in Seattle,
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and he was a truck painter.
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- You could sit next to
him on a bus, or a train,
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or a plane, you would
never associate him
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with being one of the worst
serial killers in US history.
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- Dahmer picks up
this young boy.
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They engage in some
sexual activity.
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Steven Hicks decides, "It's
time for me to leave."
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But Dahmer doesn't
want him to leave.
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And the only way that
he could figure out
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how to do this was to
basically kill him.
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- [Reporter] BTK began today's
letter with a question,
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"How many do I have to
kill before I get my name
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in the paper or some
national attention?"
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- Dennis Rader apparently
wants more attention,
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or just as much
attention, as Ted Bundy.
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- Once the police
department announced
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that there was a guy called BTK
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and he was now a serial killer,
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Wichita grew up a little bit.
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- All of law enforcement
started putting things together,
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and it wasn't long
before Ted was tied
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to the cases in Chi Omega.
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- On the way to jail Bundy said,
"I wish you had killed me."
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[slow dramatic music]
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- At the time when
we charged Ted Bundy
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for the Chi Omega murders
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he was already convicted
and sentenced in Utah.
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And he was under
investigation in Colorado
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for an associated murder
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for which there
wasn't hard evidence.
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But I knew now, for the first
time in Bundy's history,
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we had some real good scientific
forensic physical evidence.
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[upbeat music]
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- Keep your pieces short so
that we can all get on the air.
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- Smile, Ted.
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- This is Larry Warren reporting
live from Miami, Florida
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where the jury in Ted Bundy's-
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- [Man] There are
some 250 reporters
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and television technicians
from around the country.
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They will be following the trial
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and making video tape
recordings of it.
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- The trial for the Chi Omega
killings was televised live.
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And this is all, you know,
years before O.J. Simpson.
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It was probably the first trial
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that really captured
our attention.
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- The legal preliminaries
are underway in Florida,
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where Theodore Bundy
is charged with murder.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- It wasn't gavel
to gavel coverage,
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but it was quite
a national story.
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- We are watching it all by
television, as we have done-
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- There was media everywhere,
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and there was one
floor of the courthouse
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that was turned over to
reporters and journalists
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from all over the world.
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- [Reporter] In court,
the urbane Theodore Bundy
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proclaims his innocence.
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- [Ted] For I find it somewhat
absurd to ask for mercy
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for something I did not do.
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- This trial was an eye-opening
moment for the public
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because you had this
charming-looking,
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articulate, smiling Ted Bundy.
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It was not the portrait
of what most people
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expected a serial
killer to look like.
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And that was a scary
proposition for a lot of people.
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[slow music]
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- Having cameras
in the courtroom
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is a very good thing
for law enforcement
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in the sense that we
can see how the suspect
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and the witnesses are acting,
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their demeanor, the
things that they say.
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And that can be very helpful
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as you are investigating
other cases.
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We picked up a few clues
about Ted's trickiness,
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his arrogance, his narcissism,
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his wanting to
represent himself.
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- [Reporter] You going
to represent yourself
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or are you going to
get another attorney?
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- I'm staying with
the man I know best
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right now, and that's me.
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- Ted played to the cameras.
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He got to be this
well-known attorney
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that he never
really could become
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because he hadn't graduated
from law school, for one thing.
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- My name's Ted Bundy and
I'm defending the case.
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And I'm just here
to introduce myself.
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- Here he was
representing himself,
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being a TV star lawyer,
a big deal to Ted.
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[men laughing]
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- So you see Bundy's narcissism
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on full display
in the courtroom.
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He thought, "Here I can
show how smart I am,
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"how much smarter I am
than law enforcement."
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- He was like out of body.
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He was acting as his own
lawyer, but he wasn't.
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He was acting as the lawyer
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for the person that
committed these crimes.
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He never did see himself as
having committed the crimes.
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He knew he did, but
it wasn't that persona
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that committed the crimes.
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And he had no guilt.
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[people laughing]
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- Bundy actually thought that
his abilities as an attorney
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were going to be so good
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that he wasn't even
going to be convicted.
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And actually his narcissism
is what got him convicted
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because he wasn't a
very good attorney,
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but he played to the audiences.
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- [Reporter] Each
day, the courtroom
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is filled with spectators
drawn by a fascination
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with Theodore Bundy himself
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or by the gruesome
details of the crimes.
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- At the time where serial
murderers began to surface
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you have them being
portrayed in the media
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as kind of glamorous figures.
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- [Reporter] What
is unusual to see
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is that many of the onlookers
are women, young women,
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contemporaries of the five
Florida State sorority sisters
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who were assaulted in their
beds a year and a half ago.
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- Every time he turns around,
I kind of get that feeling,
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"Oh no, you're going
to get me next."
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- One of the really odd
things is how he had groupies.
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He had these young women who
just thought he was so handsome
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and they seemed to be
able to just shrug off
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the fact he was a murderer.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- I'm not afraid of him.
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He just doesn't look like
the type to kill somebody.
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- I could not believe
the young women
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that thought he was a hero.
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Let's have some consideration
for the families
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of the victims and
stop making a circus
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out of this, people's tragedies.
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- The level of exposure
and sensationalism
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that was happening in that trial
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fueled interest in that sort
of event from that point on
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to where criminal trials become
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the new sort of theater
of the next decade,
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where we're watching a
parade of serial murderers
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in front of us
through their trials.
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- [Reporter] Crucial pieces
of evidence the state has
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linking Theodore
Bundy to the slaying
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of the two Florida State coeds
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is teeth marks found on the
body of one of the coeds.
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The prosecution claims that
Bundy's teeth match those marks.
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- The only thing that
captured Ted Bundy for murder
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was the bite mark.
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On the morning
after the murders,
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I decided that I should
examine the bodies myself.
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What surprised me
was when I looked
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at one of the young
ladies, I saw a bite mark.
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It was deliberate.
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I thought something
could be done with it.
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Bite marks had never been used
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in a court in
Florida at that time.
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The idea came up
that we could get
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a search warrant for his mouth.
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I believe that it might be
the first search warrant
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for a person's mouth in
the history of the country.
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We took him to my dentist's
office, the doors swung open,
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and there were three doctors
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and behind them
was a dental chair.
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As soon as he saw them, he said,
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"You can't do this.
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"You can't do this.
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"I want my lawyer."
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- [Reporter] For the state,
perhaps the single most
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important piece of
evidence linking Bundy
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to the crimes is bite marks.
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- [Lawyer] Can you tell us,
within a reasonable degree
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of dental certainty
if those teeth
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made the marks on
those photographs?
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- Yes, sir.
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- [Lawyer] And what
is that opinion, sir?
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- They made the marks.
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- This was Ted Bundy's bite.
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I believe now that he did
indeed sign that body.
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He put his signature
on it with his bite.
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- Mr. Bundy, a
jury of your peers,
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having found you
guilty of the offense
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of burglary of a dwelling
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and committing assault
upon a person therein,
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this court judges you guilty.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- The verdict was guilty
basically on all the charges.
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So we were quite thrilled.
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- This court, independent
of, but in agreement
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with the advisory sentence
rendered by the jury
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does hereby impose
the death penalty
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upon the defendant
Theodore Robert Bundy.
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- I think Judge Cowart
developed a respect for Ted.
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- You'd have made a good lawyer
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and I would have loved to have
you practice in front of me,
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but you went another
way, partner.
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Take care of yourself.
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I don't have any animosity to
ya, I want you to know that.
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- Bundy had this glibness,
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superficial charm
that won people over.
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This happened time
and time again.
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That judge was manipulated.
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And it demonstrates how
dangerous psychopaths can be
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in their ability to charm
and manipulate others.
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- And the family will
be devastated by this.
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But we'll stick behind
him because we know
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he's not guilty, as
do all his friends.
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- He thought he was
a brilliant lawyer.
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But he just showed his
stupidity representing himself
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because he was not
a brilliant lawyer.
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He never could back
that arrogance up
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with true intelligence.
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[slow music]
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- The Bundy case was really
a critical case for us
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because it brought
national attention
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to this problem
of serial killers.
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It was when we first defined
what a serial killer was,
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someone who's committed
three or more murders
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in three or more locations,
with a cooling-off period
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between each of the murders.
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And the common traits
in serial killers
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is that they're very egocentric,
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narcissistic, thinking
only of themselves,
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have no remorse or
empathy for their victims,
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and they're usually very careful
preparing for their crimes,
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because they understand
that it is against the law.
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And Bundy was really
one of the first.
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The Bundy case also
helped us develop
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the Violent Criminal
Apprehension Program, or ViCAP.
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- The FBI's ViCAP program
was meant to make connections
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and link cases together
across jurisdictions,
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cases that were
serial in nature.
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- The ViCAP program was
specifically designed
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to have homicide detectives
complete questionnaires
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on their homicide, solved or
unsolved, send them to the FBI,
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and the FBI would look at
and analyze these cases
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and see if there were
commonalities between the cases.
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- This system will
assist investigators
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in learning and
acquiring information
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about serial
multi-jurisdictional predators.
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- We recognized that
we had these cases
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going on with Ted Bundy.
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We had the case with John
Wayne Gacy going on in Chicago.
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And now there was
an impetus driving
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this understanding
of these individuals.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- In February of 1980, after
Bundy gets his sentence,
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John Wayne Gacy goes on trial
for the murder of 33 boys.
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- Chicago prosecutors began
presenting evidence today
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in the trial of John Gacy,
evidence it hopes will lead
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to the death penalty in the
case involving more murders
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than any trial in
American history.
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- It was certainly
the biggest case
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I had tried up to that point.
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If you're going to have
capital punishment in Illinois,
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John Gacy deserves it.
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- Gacy's trial was unique.
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It was 33 murders
tried at one time.
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It was the most cases tried
in any serial killer case.
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- We saw the trial
from beginning to end.
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And what's very different,
he just sat there
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like he was waiting for a bus.
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[slow music]
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My mother said, "We are
going there every day."
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It was a long haul for
us to go every day,
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but it doesn't matter.
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You gotta be there to support
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all the other families
that were there.
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Many of the parents
were there all the time.
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- [Reporter] The central
question for the seven men
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and five women on the jury,
is Gacy crazy or diabolical?
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One answer could mean life
in a mental institution.
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The other could mean death.
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- There was a jury looking at
33 murders at the same time.
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You had to educate
them in a layman's way
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as to the difference
between crazy and
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the legal standard for sanity
at the time of an offense.
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[dramatic music]
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- Gacy's MO was to lure young
men and boys to his home.
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He had done this over
and over and over again.
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- What John Gacy targeted
for was certainly
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a homosexual event,
possibly non-consensual.
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And if it became obvious
to him that that individual
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was going to be a threat to him
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and not go along
with the program,
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then he made the choice
to make them a victim
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with the handcuff trick
and the rope trick.
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- [John] He'd put the handcuffs
on him behind his back,
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show his victims
that he was cuffed.
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But Gacy would get
out of the cuffs
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as he's showing
them to the victim.
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So he said, "That's the trick.
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"I can get out of the cuffs.
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"So now you try it and see
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"if you can get out
of the handcuffs."
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- Now he's got the
hands immobilized.
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He can't get out.
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He said, "Well, don't try yet,
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"but I'm going to show
you the rope trick now."
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- [Reporter] And then
there's the Gacy confession
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about how he killed his victims,
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strangled them with his
now infamous rope trick.
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- This is too long.
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You don't need it this long.
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What I told them, I
says, "Here, all you do
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"is you wrap it around,
you put one knot in it,
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"then you put a second
knot in it, okay?"
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I says, "Then you take a
stick and stick it in here.
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"And you just turn this."
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- That's called a garrote.
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And any number of the bodies
buried in the crawlspace
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still had a noose
around their neck,
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or the marks from the noose.
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- John Wayne Gacy, he was
doing it in a very thoughtful,
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cold-blooded, premeditated,
strategic manner.
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He was thinking like a predator.
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He wasn't thinking
in terms of someone
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that didn't know
right from wrong.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- There was no way that
he could be found insane.
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He covered up his tracks
for how many years.
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He was a pillar of society.
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There was a lot of
shrinks that came
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and said, "Oh yeah, he's nuts."
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Well, okay, prove it.
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Show me why he's crazy.
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Show the jury why he's nuts.
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[dramatic music]
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[people talking]
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- [Reporter] It took the jury
of seven men and five women
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less than two hours to
find John Wayne Gacy
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guilty of murdering
33 young men.
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Gacy was convicted of
murdering more people
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than anyone else in US history.
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- Very pleased, very happy
for the people of Illinois.
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Very happy that John
Gacy has been stopped.
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- They constantly kept saying
this could have been solved
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much earlier than it was.
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They dropped the ball.
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But I do believe
that good things
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do come out of bad situations.
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And it's because of my
brother's disappearance
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and other kids of that age
that they changed their ruling
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on when a minor does disappear
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things happen much more rapidly
than it did in the 70s.
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It was 72 hours.
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Now it's within 24
hours they are on it.
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- If there's anything good
to come out of the Gacy case,
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it would be the
ability to keep track
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of people who are missing.
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Police come up with
a computerized system
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that they can use to track
people who have been murdered,
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reported missing, or
have been kidnapped.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- There's a commonality
between John Wayne Gacy
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and Jeffrey Dahmer in the fact
that they were both gay men
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trying to exist and live a life
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in a time where being a
gay man was not accepted.
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They're spending their
whole life as outcasts,
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as not being good enough.
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And that becomes
sort of the context
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for their sexual behaviors,
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as well as all
their interactions.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- There's a large gap after
Dahmer killed Steven Hicks
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to his next kill, because
Dahmer's not ready yet.
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He's only 18 years old.
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- Dahmer actually went
to Ohio State University
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after he graduated
from high school.
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He didn't do well.
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He flunked out
after one semester
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and his father dragged him to
the army recruitment office
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and insisted that he join up.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- When I enlisted,
all I wanted to do
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was make my mother proud.
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00:20:18,478 --> 00:20:20,175
First day in Germany,
this jolly guy
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meets me at battalion
headquarters.
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He says, "Hey, we got
a roommate for ya."
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00:20:28,749 --> 00:20:31,404
And that roommate
was Jeffrey Dahmer,
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Private First Class
Jeffrey Dahmer.
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When I first met Jeff, I'll
never forget that first look.
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When he looked at you,
it was a blank stare,
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like no one was even in there.
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And then it just started,
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Night after night, after
night, after night,
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the attacks, the choking.
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He was raping me all the time.
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It was almost every single day.
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I reported the rape.
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They did not document
rapes or any of that stuff.
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It's like no one was in charge.
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He was drinking constantly.
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He'd get drunk.
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He would masturbate.
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They caught him at Family
Park in front of children.
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The MPs escorted him
back to the barracks,
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several occasions with
just his underwear on.
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- Dahmer was actually
discharged from the military
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because of his abuse of alcohol.
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- After the military,
Dahmer returns home
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and his drinking continues.
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His father can't deal
with him anymore.
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[slow music]
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- His father actually sent
him to live in West Allis,
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which is a suburb of Milwaukee,
with his grandmother.
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- The family also recognized
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that he had a drinking
problem back then.
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And the father was hoping
that by living with Grandma
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that Grandma could kind
of keep that in check.
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- On August 7th, 1982,
Dahmer is arrested
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for exposing himself to
women and children at a park,
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and he's fined and released to
the care of his grandmother.
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[slow dramatic music]
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- He went to a mall and
stole a male mannequin
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that he brought back
to have sex with.
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He actually went to
some young men's wakes
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and would look at 'em.
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In one case, he told us he
tried to dig up the grave
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and was going to try to
take home a dead body.
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- With these behaviors, Jeffrey
Dahmer appears to be trying
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to avoid his urges to kill.
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If I can have sex
with this mannequin,
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then I'm not killing people and
having sex with a dead body.
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We don't see themes of control
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with all five of these killers,
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but we do see it prominently
with Dennis Rader.
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In between his first
set of killings
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and his second set of killings,
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Dennis Rader took seven
years off to raise his family
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and seemingly control
his impulses to kill.
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So Rader and Dahmer are
able to sort of kill
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and then lay low for a while.
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There is this cooling-off period
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that lasts a fairly
significant amount of time.
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Gary Ridgway, on the other
hand, once he started killing,
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he went on a killing rampage
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the likes of which
history has rarely seen.
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[slow dramatic music]
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[dramatic music]
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- The first victim of
the Green River Killer
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was Wendy Coffield.
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She was 16 years old.
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- [Reporter] Two boys
riding their bikes
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along the Green River
spotted the body
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of 16-year-old Wendy Coffield
tangled among these pilings.
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- She had been living in foster
care in a home in Tacoma,
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and she had run away
from foster care
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and was thought to be
engaging in prostitution.
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She was last seen
just a couple of days
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before her body was
found in the Green River.
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The ligature that was used on
Wendy Coffield was her pants,
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and they had been
wrapped tightly
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and kind of knotted
around her neck.
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And this was the first body
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that was found in
the Green River.
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So at that time no one knew
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that it was part of
a serial killing.
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[slow music]
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- Gary Ridgway is the
antithesis of Ted Bundy,
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who was very charismatic,
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very outgoing,
supposedly attractive.
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Gary Ridgway is none
of those things.
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And yet when you're watching him
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and you're listening to
how he lived his life,
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to some degree he lived
his life that way.
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He's invisible.
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And that's what contributed
to much of his success
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00:25:35,795 --> 00:25:38,537
in being able to get away
with this for so many years.
497
00:25:40,147 --> 00:25:41,583
- With Ridgway, I don't know
498
00:25:41,627 --> 00:25:44,804
that he necessarily
mapped this crime out.
499
00:25:44,891 --> 00:25:48,547
Ridgway was already having
experiences with prostitutes.
500
00:25:48,634 --> 00:25:50,331
And it sounds more
like it was just
501
00:25:50,418 --> 00:25:52,507
an opportunity that
presented itself.
502
00:25:53,508 --> 00:25:54,857
Fantasy is an
important part of this,
503
00:25:54,944 --> 00:25:57,120
but you also have to
have the opportunity.
504
00:25:57,207 --> 00:26:01,603
And he had fantasized
about this particular event
505
00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:03,170
for many, many, many years,
506
00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:05,912
almost even going back to
his childhood arguably.
507
00:26:09,393 --> 00:26:13,267
- Gary Ridgway had a
domineering mother.
508
00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:16,400
You know, he wasn't a
very smart individual.
509
00:26:16,487 --> 00:26:18,620
This was a guy who was reported
510
00:26:18,707 --> 00:26:21,449
to have wet his bed
until he was age 13.
511
00:26:22,798 --> 00:26:26,062
- He described how his mother
would wake him in the night
512
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:29,065
and be angered by
the bed wetting,
513
00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:30,850
and put him in the bathtub
514
00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:33,896
and wash his genitals
aggressively.
515
00:26:35,071 --> 00:26:38,988
Gary said it was
both humiliating
516
00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:41,904
and sexually arousing
at the same time.
517
00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:43,950
- [Mark] This created
518
00:26:44,037 --> 00:26:46,605
really conflicting
feelings for Ridgway.
519
00:27:07,277 --> 00:27:11,064
- One part of him lusted after
his mother in a sexual way.
520
00:27:11,151 --> 00:27:13,327
Another part of him
hated his mother.
521
00:27:13,414 --> 00:27:16,112
So as a child growing
up, you have these
522
00:27:16,199 --> 00:27:19,333
really conflicting
emotions that then develop
523
00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:23,032
into sort of this
love, hate relationship
524
00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:25,339
with women as you get older.
525
00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:45,925
- His father constantly
reinforced into him
526
00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:50,277
his hatred for prostitutes,
because he was a bus driver
527
00:27:50,364 --> 00:27:52,192
and his father was
always talking about,
528
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,108
in a very degrading
way, about prostitutes.
529
00:27:55,195 --> 00:27:57,676
So you see how this
could impact Ridgway
530
00:27:57,763 --> 00:28:00,069
and his thinking early on.
531
00:28:00,113 --> 00:28:02,419
And of course, who
is Ridgway targeting
532
00:28:02,506 --> 00:28:05,422
when he starts to act
out, who is he targeting?
533
00:28:05,509 --> 00:28:06,902
He's targeting prostitutes.
534
00:28:06,989 --> 00:28:08,991
[slow dramatic music]
535
00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:12,516
- When he was in the military,
he discovered prostitution.
536
00:28:12,603 --> 00:28:16,433
And, you know, that
was an outlet for him.
537
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,654
He told us that after he was
discharged from the military
538
00:28:19,741 --> 00:28:22,135
and he came back to
the Seattle area,
539
00:28:22,222 --> 00:28:24,877
he discovered that
his first wife
540
00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:26,705
had become involved
with somebody else,
541
00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:27,880
that she was having an affair
542
00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:30,273
and she wanted to get divorced.
543
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,798
and they did ultimately
get divorced.
544
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:36,018
And this enraged Ridgway.
545
00:28:37,324 --> 00:28:40,762
- 1982, Gary
Ridgway's first kill.
546
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:43,939
At this point in Gary's
life, he's in his early 30s.
547
00:28:43,983 --> 00:28:45,680
And at this particular time
548
00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:50,250
a number of social environmental
stressors happening to him.
549
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:53,427
He was arrested for
soliciting a prostitute
550
00:28:53,514 --> 00:28:55,995
and had just gone through
his second divorce.
551
00:28:56,082 --> 00:28:59,041
The former is significant
because two years prior to that
552
00:28:59,128 --> 00:29:01,000
he was arrested for
choking a prostitute.
553
00:29:01,087 --> 00:29:03,916
So there seems to be a pattern
that was already ramping up,
554
00:29:04,003 --> 00:29:07,267
if you will, related to
sexual and violent behavior.
555
00:29:23,674 --> 00:29:25,328
- [Reporter] Four more
victims were discovered,
556
00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:28,331
three in the river and
one on the river bank.
557
00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:30,507
All of them had been strangled.
558
00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:33,684
- It was only a few weeks
after Wendy Coffield was found
559
00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:39,081
that they discovered another
set of bodies in the river.
560
00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:41,170
I think it was
clear at that point
561
00:29:41,214 --> 00:29:43,956
that they were dealing
with a serial killer.
562
00:29:49,091 --> 00:29:50,614
[slow dramatic music]
563
00:29:52,007 --> 00:29:54,314
- Our first victims
are in the Green River.
564
00:29:54,357 --> 00:29:57,143
Both Wendy Coffield
and Debra Bonner
565
00:29:57,186 --> 00:29:59,536
were found floating
in the water.
566
00:29:59,623 --> 00:30:02,539
We had two other victims that
he had placed in the water
567
00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:05,978
and put large rocks on
them to hold them down.
568
00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:09,546
The detectives, as
they're investigating
569
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:12,898
the two in the river,
they're doing a canvas
570
00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:16,510
and that's when they come
across the body of Opal Mills.
571
00:30:16,597 --> 00:30:18,991
She has her jeans around her
neck, used as a ligature.
572
00:30:19,078 --> 00:30:22,646
And other than that
she's face down and nude.
573
00:30:24,126 --> 00:30:27,695
- What's really important
here is that Gary Ridgway
574
00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:29,740
is a serial sexual killer.
575
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:33,527
And so the power and control
that existed in his murders,
576
00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:35,746
I think is extremely compelling.
577
00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:40,360
He said at times the idea
that he was strangling someone
578
00:30:40,447 --> 00:30:45,017
at the point that he was
also sexually assaulting
579
00:30:45,104 --> 00:30:48,716
his victims, that was such
a feeling of omnipotence.
580
00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:05,037
- He was picking sex workers,
many of them women of color.
581
00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:07,778
- They had broken homes.
582
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:08,997
They had been abused.
583
00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:10,781
They had people who
didn't care for them,
584
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:12,174
who didn't love them.
585
00:31:12,261 --> 00:31:13,741
And they were vulnerable.
586
00:31:13,828 --> 00:31:16,831
Ridgway knew that they
were the least likely
587
00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:19,921
to draw attention
if they went missing
588
00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:22,228
or if they turned up dead.
589
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:25,579
I don't think that the
community in general
590
00:31:25,622 --> 00:31:27,755
reacted the same way as they had
591
00:31:27,798 --> 00:31:29,844
during the time that
Ted Bundy was killing.
592
00:31:29,931 --> 00:31:33,152
And I think that was
largely related to attitudes
593
00:31:33,195 --> 00:31:36,503
that kind of marginalized
the women that he victimized.
594
00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:38,461
And as a result of that,
595
00:31:38,548 --> 00:31:41,247
people didn't give it the
same kind of attention
596
00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:42,901
as if you kill a sorority girl
597
00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:44,772
at the University of Washington.
598
00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:49,168
- You go back to
the 70s, you find
599
00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:52,954
this sort of
trusting environment
600
00:31:52,998 --> 00:31:54,347
where we trusted strangers.
601
00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,610
We didn't look
askance at strangers.
602
00:31:58,525 --> 00:32:01,484
Then there was a lot
of national attention
603
00:32:01,571 --> 00:32:04,923
to these bigger
cases like Ted Bundy,
604
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:08,796
like John Wayne Gacy,
and culture changes.
605
00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:10,885
- Come on, hop in.
606
00:32:10,972 --> 00:32:12,191
- [Narrator] Talk
to your children
607
00:32:12,278 --> 00:32:14,584
about not talking to
strangers, and do it today.
608
00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:15,672
A message for your child-
609
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,024
- So these individuals
had to start targeting
610
00:32:19,111 --> 00:32:24,290
groups of victims that weren't
previously being targeted.
611
00:32:25,595 --> 00:32:30,600
That's where we start to see
a shift to vulnerable types
612
00:32:30,687 --> 00:32:35,823
of population groups like
drug abusers, prostitutes,
613
00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:39,479
high-risk victims,
because they have to find
614
00:32:39,522 --> 00:32:41,611
their victim
population somewhere.
615
00:32:45,528 --> 00:32:48,488
When investigators in
King County, Washington,
616
00:32:48,575 --> 00:32:52,666
start discovering
these dead prostitutes,
617
00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:54,233
they didn't really
waste any time
618
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,323
in getting a task
force put together.
619
00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:01,022
Because they had been
dealing with Ted Bundy
620
00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:03,982
over the years in the
same general area,
621
00:33:04,025 --> 00:33:06,854
they recognized that
putting together
622
00:33:06,941 --> 00:33:10,336
a task force with
multiple facets
623
00:33:10,379 --> 00:33:13,513
would be the best way
to solve this case.
624
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,602
- And that task
force was made up
625
00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:17,778
of the King County
Sheriff's Department,
626
00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:20,520
Seattle Police
Department, and the FBI.
627
00:33:22,913 --> 00:33:24,176
- At the time that
Ridgway was really
628
00:33:24,219 --> 00:33:26,308
in the height of
his killing period,
629
00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:28,441
people just have to
remember that the science
630
00:33:28,528 --> 00:33:30,704
and the technology
and what was available
631
00:33:30,747 --> 00:33:33,011
to law enforcement
was so different.
632
00:33:34,142 --> 00:33:36,623
We had pretty rudimentary
forensic science.
633
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:38,364
The technology
just wasn't there.
634
00:33:38,407 --> 00:33:40,496
There weren't
elaborate databases.
635
00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:43,195
So when you were trying to
track who the Johns were,
636
00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:46,067
for example, that
we knew frequented
637
00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:47,025
Pacific Highway South,
638
00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:48,722
you know, those
were all individual
639
00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:51,855
hard copy little
notes and cards.
640
00:33:53,814 --> 00:33:55,903
- Back in the 70s
and the early 80s
641
00:33:55,946 --> 00:33:57,296
certainly we didn't have all
642
00:33:57,339 --> 00:34:00,560
of the electronic surveillance
means that we have now.
643
00:34:00,647 --> 00:34:02,344
There are no cell phones.
644
00:34:02,431 --> 00:34:04,390
When we initially started
finding the bodies,
645
00:34:04,477 --> 00:34:08,133
they were using VHS tapes for
videotaping the crime scenes.
646
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:11,658
In the past, remember, it's
still photography and that's it.
647
00:34:11,745 --> 00:34:14,313
And now we're able to
videotape the crime scenes
648
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,097
and go back and
maybe look at things
649
00:34:16,184 --> 00:34:18,752
that we might've not
seen at that time.
650
00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:21,842
So that was considered real
cutting-edge technology
651
00:34:21,929 --> 00:34:23,148
back in the 80s.
652
00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:24,540
- [Reporter] Almost
immediately after
653
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:26,499
the fourth and fifth
bodies were pulled out
654
00:34:26,586 --> 00:34:29,154
of the Green River last
month, King County police
655
00:34:29,241 --> 00:34:32,113
asked the FBI to prepare
a psychological profile
656
00:34:32,157 --> 00:34:34,463
of the possible
killer, or killers.
657
00:34:35,421 --> 00:34:37,423
- Early on, the Green
River task force
658
00:34:37,466 --> 00:34:39,164
had asked for FBI assistance.
659
00:34:39,251 --> 00:34:42,906
And at that point,
FBI agent John Douglas
660
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:44,778
had gotten involved in the case.
661
00:34:44,821 --> 00:34:48,260
John Douglas was one
of the founding agents
662
00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:50,653
of the Behavioral Science Unit.
663
00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:53,743
He and Robert Ressler are known
664
00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:55,267
for going around
the United States
665
00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:58,139
interviewing murders
and serial killers,
666
00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:00,533
and produced research on it.
667
00:35:00,576 --> 00:35:05,364
- Profiling generally has to
do with an unknown subject
668
00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:09,977
where you're looking at both
the psychological dynamics
669
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:11,370
and the behavioral dynamics
670
00:35:11,457 --> 00:35:13,633
based on the crime
and crime scene,
671
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:17,332
and trying to create,
sort of, the composite
672
00:35:17,376 --> 00:35:20,161
of an individual who
would commit the crime.
673
00:35:21,554 --> 00:35:23,817
- I think what we're dealing
with here is a serial murderer.
674
00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:25,949
The man who commit
a crime like this
675
00:35:26,036 --> 00:35:28,561
definitely would have
had to been involved
676
00:35:28,648 --> 00:35:29,910
in crimes in the past.
677
00:35:29,997 --> 00:35:31,825
And in all probability
will be involved
678
00:35:31,868 --> 00:35:33,740
in crimes like
this in the future.
679
00:35:33,827 --> 00:35:36,830
- You know, he made no attempt
whatsoever to bury the body.
680
00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:39,833
The river was just a
short distance away,
681
00:35:39,876 --> 00:35:40,921
another 175 yards.
682
00:35:41,008 --> 00:35:42,314
He could have dumped
her into the river.
683
00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:43,532
There's a strong current.
684
00:35:43,576 --> 00:35:45,143
This is something I
think is going to give us
685
00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:46,579
some clues into his personality.
686
00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:47,841
[slow dramatic music]
687
00:35:47,928 --> 00:35:50,322
- The profile that was done
on the Green River Killer
688
00:35:50,409 --> 00:35:53,629
was very broad and
very general in scope.
689
00:35:54,761 --> 00:35:57,242
- Some things were
correct such as, you know,
690
00:35:57,329 --> 00:36:01,550
his age, his race,
that he was divorced.
691
00:36:01,637 --> 00:36:06,512
But considering the
demographics of Washington
692
00:36:06,555 --> 00:36:09,036
at that time, it's very broad.
693
00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:12,474
- I know it was
disappointing at the time,
694
00:36:12,561 --> 00:36:15,564
but the science of
profiling at that point
695
00:36:15,651 --> 00:36:17,305
was still very young.
696
00:36:18,393 --> 00:36:19,568
- [Richard] Some of
these cases have taken
697
00:36:19,655 --> 00:36:22,919
two and three years or
more to eventually solve,
698
00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:25,618
but I am optimistic about this.
699
00:36:25,705 --> 00:36:26,923
- [Interviewer]
Will someone else
700
00:36:26,967 --> 00:36:29,012
have to be killed
before you can solve it?
701
00:36:29,099 --> 00:36:30,362
- I certainly hope not.
702
00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:34,844
- Between July and
October of 1982,
703
00:36:34,931 --> 00:36:40,241
Gary Ridgway was killing
three to four women a month.
704
00:36:41,024 --> 00:36:42,069
But because some of these bodies
705
00:36:42,112 --> 00:36:44,767
weren't recovered
until years later,
706
00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:47,161
law enforcement really
didn't have a good handle
707
00:36:47,248 --> 00:36:51,034
on how many women
were going missing.
708
00:36:51,078 --> 00:36:53,385
Meanwhile, we have sex workers
709
00:36:53,428 --> 00:36:57,302
that are extremely
fearful for their lives
710
00:36:57,389 --> 00:37:00,348
because they noticed the
women that are missing.
711
00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:02,568
- [Woman] Take one, mark.
712
00:37:04,874 --> 00:37:08,356
- I asked him if he was
the Green River Killer.
713
00:37:08,443 --> 00:37:14,841
He said nothing, just
a plain blank look.
714
00:37:14,928 --> 00:37:16,625
[dramatic music]
715
00:37:16,669 --> 00:37:20,412
I remember those eyes,
those beady little eyes.
716
00:37:22,065 --> 00:37:26,244
I am the only survivor of
the Green River Killer.
717
00:37:33,729 --> 00:37:37,080
[slow dramatic music]
[rain pattering]
718
00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:38,778
- I was 20.
719
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,825
I was getting stressed out
720
00:37:42,869 --> 00:37:45,828
because it was a
really bad rainy day.
721
00:37:45,915 --> 00:37:49,136
And I decided to hitchhike.
722
00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:55,055
I got into Gary Ridgway's truck.
723
00:37:55,142 --> 00:37:58,667
[dramatic music]
724
00:37:58,711 --> 00:38:03,803
We had talked and
he showed me his ID.
725
00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:07,763
And I knew that he had
worked at Kenworth.
726
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:14,292
And I also started to trust
him because I saw the ID.
727
00:38:16,381 --> 00:38:18,992
After all that small chit chat
728
00:38:19,035 --> 00:38:22,865
we went to a area that I knew.
729
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:33,485
Well, I was making an
exchange for a sex act.
730
00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:38,446
He kept telling me to
get out of the truck
731
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:40,361
and go up in the woods.
732
00:38:40,448 --> 00:38:44,844
I kept hesitating and
saying I didn't want to,
733
00:38:44,887 --> 00:38:47,020
and why do I have to do that?
734
00:38:48,543 --> 00:38:51,677
So then he gave me the $20.
735
00:38:51,764 --> 00:38:56,334
And so then I decided
to go up in the woods.
736
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,426
He did not want sex.
737
00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:05,343
He immediately attacked me
and threw me on the ground.
738
00:39:18,138 --> 00:39:22,534
- He had covered my mouth,
and the string on the neck.
739
00:39:24,187 --> 00:39:27,234
I tried my hardest to breathe
740
00:39:27,277 --> 00:39:30,063
through my nose,
through my eyes.
741
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:33,588
Things happen so fast.
742
00:39:33,632 --> 00:39:37,070
You just have no
time for thinking.
743
00:39:37,157 --> 00:39:39,594
You don't think, you do.
744
00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:40,726
You have to do it.
745
00:39:57,307 --> 00:39:59,397
- I was a fighter to the end.
746
00:39:59,484 --> 00:40:02,748
I was not letting him
get the best of me.
747
00:40:03,879 --> 00:40:09,102
I was given some extreme power
748
00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:13,585
to push him away against a tree,
749
00:40:13,672 --> 00:40:17,327
but I had also bit him.
750
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:23,769
I ran so fast I literally
don't remember touching ground.
751
00:40:26,511 --> 00:40:31,603
I found a trailer
and they let me in
752
00:40:32,517 --> 00:40:36,216
and I hid there for a long time.
753
00:40:36,303 --> 00:40:37,870
[rain pattering]
754
00:40:37,957 --> 00:40:38,784
[slow dramatic music]
755
00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:41,439
So I got back to my apartment
756
00:40:41,526 --> 00:40:46,618
and I was just totally
freaked out for a long time.
757
00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:53,146
Because of the strangulation,
I couldn't talk for a week.
758
00:40:55,061 --> 00:40:58,151
I wasn't going nowhere
because I kept thinking
759
00:40:58,238 --> 00:41:00,675
that he was out looking for me.
760
00:41:00,762 --> 00:41:03,678
And that was the
weirdest feeling,
761
00:41:03,722 --> 00:41:06,812
to not feel safe out in public.
762
00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:10,380
I didn't tell anybody
for a long time.
763
00:41:11,773 --> 00:41:14,210
- She didn't initially report
what had happened to her.
764
00:41:14,297 --> 00:41:16,561
You know, she was
engaged in prostitution.
765
00:41:16,604 --> 00:41:19,085
So she herself was
committing a crime.
766
00:41:19,172 --> 00:41:21,566
Ridgway told us that many
of the women he picked up
767
00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:24,220
asked him whether or not he
was the Green River Killer.
768
00:41:24,264 --> 00:41:25,352
And he would say, you know,
769
00:41:25,439 --> 00:41:27,049
"Do I look like the
Green River Killer?
770
00:41:27,136 --> 00:41:27,920
"Look at me.
771
00:41:28,007 --> 00:41:29,182
"I'm not a very big guy.
772
00:41:29,269 --> 00:41:31,227
"I'm not that strong."
773
00:41:31,271 --> 00:41:33,708
What Ridgway was doing
was very cunning,
774
00:41:33,795 --> 00:41:36,624
it was very deliberate, and
it was very premeditated.
775
00:41:37,799 --> 00:41:39,801
- There are so many
things he doesn't do well,
776
00:41:39,888 --> 00:41:44,327
but this one particular
thing, killing young women
777
00:41:44,414 --> 00:41:47,069
is something that he perfected.
778
00:41:47,113 --> 00:41:48,114
- He was killing so frequently,
779
00:41:48,201 --> 00:41:50,725
within days, weeks
of each other.
780
00:41:50,812 --> 00:41:53,206
There were just so many
victims during that time
781
00:41:53,293 --> 00:41:56,035
that he appeared to be
really out of control.
782
00:42:02,824 --> 00:42:03,869
[slow dramatic music]
783
00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:05,697
- Everybody thought
the Green River case
784
00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:07,089
was never going to get solved.
785
00:42:07,133 --> 00:42:10,876
But then Rebecca Garde had
the courage to come forward.
786
00:42:14,444 --> 00:42:16,229
- Ted Bundy was on death row.
787
00:42:16,272 --> 00:42:18,405
And he offered to
share his thoughts
788
00:42:18,448 --> 00:42:20,102
about who the
serial killer known
789
00:42:20,189 --> 00:42:22,235
as the Green River Killer was.
790
00:42:28,502 --> 00:42:31,549
- By 1985, BTK had disappeared.
791
00:42:31,636 --> 00:42:33,246
And then he kills his neighbor.
792
00:42:33,289 --> 00:42:35,074
- [Reporter]
53-year-old Marine Hedge
793
00:42:35,161 --> 00:42:36,684
was last seen a week ago.
794
00:42:36,771 --> 00:42:39,818
There are very few clues
to work with on this case.
795
00:42:39,905 --> 00:42:42,821
- Dahmer specifically
targeted victims
796
00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:46,128
who were very small, so he
knew he could overpower them.
797
00:42:46,215 --> 00:42:48,478
Konerak was only 14 years old.
798
00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:49,654
- [Dispatcher] Fire Department.
799
00:42:49,697 --> 00:42:51,307
- [Caller] This
butt-naked young boy,
800
00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:52,918
he's been beaten up real bad
801
00:42:53,005 --> 00:42:54,006
and he has no clothes on.
802
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:54,920
He's very hurt.
803
00:42:54,963 --> 00:42:56,138
- We kept trying to tell them,
804
00:42:56,182 --> 00:42:57,792
"But he's a kid, he's a kid.
805
00:42:57,879 --> 00:43:00,795
He said, "Well, he's
telling us he's not a kid.
806
00:43:00,839 --> 00:43:04,190
"So who should we believe?"
807
00:43:04,277 --> 00:43:06,105
Believe the white guy.
63687
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