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[eerie ambient music]
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- It's hard to believe
that someone could slip in
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and abduct a young woman
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right out of her bedroom
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and without anybody
hearing a thing,
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but that's what happened.
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[intense ambient music]
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- [Director] All right, so
let's roll sound.
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- [Audio Engineer] Sound speeds.
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- [Director] And AVP.
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- [Male Crewmember]
We're good, Stephanie.
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- When we talk about the
golden age of serial killers,
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it all started in
the early to mid '70s
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with this group of five.
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Like Gacy and 33
bodies under his house.
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Bundy traveling
across the country.
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Rader terrorizing over decades
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and taunting law
enforcement and the media.
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Jeffrey Dahmer.
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Even today, we find his crimes
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to be on the extreme
end of human behavior.
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Gary Ridgway, the
Green River Killer,
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confessed to 71 murders over
the course of several decades.
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- Five of the most
prolific serial killers
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in American history were all
operating at the same time.
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- It's easy for us
in hindsight to say,
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well, why didn't that
person get caught,
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or why weren't people
looking for them?
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I think we have to keep in
mind historically, the era.
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- In the '70s in
the United States
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was an innocent sort of place.
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- You find this sort of
trusting environment.
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- It was normal for people
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to just hang out with strangers
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and to hop into strange cars.
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- [Reporter] The murder
of people in series
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has police departments
across this country worried.
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- Law enforcement
didn't have a definition
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for serial killers.
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- Those police officers
back in the '70s
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just simply did
not have the tools
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that law enforcement
officers have now.
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- Being able to quickly
run a name in a database,
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that's something
that didn't exist.
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- There were no computers.
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- No internet.
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- No cell phones.
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- No DNA.
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- There were no
surveillance cameras.
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- Record keeping was in the
back of everybody's drawer.
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- We didn't yet have
the 9-1-1 system.
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And these killers took
full advantage of that.
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- [Male Reporter] John
Wayne Gacy's criminal--
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- [Male Reporter] Ted
Bundy is still alive--
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- [Female Reporter] BTK might--
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- [Male Reporter]
Jeffrey Dahmer--
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- [Female Reporter]
Green River Killer.
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[intense orchestral music]
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Georgann Hawkins.
- Steven Tuomi.
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- Lynda Ann Healy.
- Kathryn Bright.
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- [Female Speaker] Steven Hicks.
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[voices overlapping]
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- [Female Speaker] Shirley Vian.
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- He took me by the shoulder
and said, "Follow me."
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Threatened to kill me
if I didn't comply.
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- I thought that he
was just a normal man.
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And I was just thinking,
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I'm gonna get home and
everything's gonna be fine.
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Little did I know it was
gonna be my worst nightmare.
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- We kept trying to tell him,
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but he's a kid, he's a kid.
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He said, "Well, he's
telling us he's not a kid,
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so who should we believe?"
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Believe the white guy.
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- These five killers
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don't come across to the outside
world as frothing lunatics.
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- And you could sit
next to him on a bus,
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or a train, or a plane.
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You would never associate them
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with being the worst serial
killers in US history.
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- Deep down inside is a monster
that you could never see.
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[intense orchestral music]
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- My mother had told me
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that the only thing she
ever prayed for for herself
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was to die peacefully
in her sleep.
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And that's the one
thing she did not get.
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- Wichita was a very calm city.
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A city back in 1974 of
roughly 300,000 people
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with a large agricultural base.
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We didn't think about crime.
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Nobody thought about crime.
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Crime happened in the big city.
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Crime did not happen
in Wichita, Kansas.
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[slate claps]
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- My family was a loving,
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caring family of
typical Americans.
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My mother and my father
were childhood sweethearts.
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My mom was a good Catholic girl.
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That is why there
was five of us,
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one after the other
after the other.
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I remember walking home.
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I remember the snow
being almost knee deep.
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Opened up the back
gate to the yard
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and I saw my dog Lucky outside.
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So I said, "Hey, lucky,
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what are you doing
out here, boy?
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You okay?
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Come on."
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I opened up the kitchen
door and there was no sound,
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nobody.
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And so I was like,
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I yelled out, "Is anybody here?"
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And one of my
siblings yelled out,
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"Charlie, come quick.
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Mom and dad are playing
a bad trick on us."
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I ran down the hall,
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went through the door
in their bedroom,
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and saw my mom and my dad
there tied up
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and dead.
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[intense ambient music]
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I could smell the
fear and the pain
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that they had gone through.
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I could feel it all in the room.
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The physical pain is like,
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if somebody pried
your chest open.
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- The police had responded
to the house.
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They opened a spare bedroom
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and that's where
they found Joey Jr.
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- The police believe
that he sat on the chair
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and watched the child suffocate.
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And every time I
think about that,
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it's tough, you know?
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- So then, the search
was on for Josephine.
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That's when the
officers realized,
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this house has a basement.
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An officer went down there,
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he didn't know where
the lights were,
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and he was kind of
sweeping his arm,
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trying to not bump
into something.
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And he went against something
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that he thought was a punching
bag hanging from the ceiling.
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And then when he found a light,
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it was Josephine who had
been hung from a sewer pipe
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in the basement of the house.
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- She will really struggle.
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And then as she struggles,
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he will describe masturbating.
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- If I'd have seen
Joey and Josie,
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it might've drove me mad.
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Thank God I didn't see it.
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Thank God.
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- The crime scenes
back in the '70s
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are not like they are now.
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The Otero crime scene,
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that is a crime scene that
would never happen today.
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You had members of the media
wandering through the house.
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You even had a uh,
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higher up official in
the police department
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decide to make himself
a drink of water.
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And so he had left the
ice tray on the counter.
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And so people thought,
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well, the ice hadn't
melted completely,
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so that must've been
the killer who did it.
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- Back in 1974, we
couldn't even spell DNA.
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The technology didn't
exist back then.
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But at Josephine's
feet, there was a pool.
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The crime scene investigator
had an incredible imagination
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'cause he didn't
know what it was.
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He didn't know
what its value was,
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but he knew he wanted
to preserve it.
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So he took a pillowcase
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and he cut it up into
several small pieces.
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And then he dipped
it in that pool.
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31 years later,
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a genetic profile would be drawn
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from one of those preserved
pieces of evidence.
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- The police department
thought at first
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that this was a drug murder.
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They took several
people into custody
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and it turned out they weren't
related to the case at all.
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- In 1974,
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the idea that someone
would kill for pleasure
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was unheard of.
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It just wasn't something that
existed in anyone's mind.
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- There had to be some motive.
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Why does somebody just
pick out this family
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and slaughter four people?
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And so a lot of
opinions were sought
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from psychologists of the day,
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thinking that they
would have some insight
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as to what would motivate
a person to do this.
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- Dennis Rader, as a child,
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had a perfectly
normal upbringing.
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He said, "I was never abused.
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Everything was
normal in my family."
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But then he says,
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"I knew from a young age
that I had factor X."
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"Factor X is the demon
inside of me," he says,
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"That caused me to have to
torture people and kill people."
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- Rader will describe
a specific incident
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when he was a kid
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where he was at some
kind of family outing,
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and they tied a
chicken to a tree stump
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in order to kill the chicken.
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And the tying of the
chicken to that stump
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caused him to have
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what he would describe
as sexual feelings.
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- Dennis Rader was cultivating
this persona of churchgoer.
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He was married.
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He was relatively young.
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He was 28 years old.
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Relatively handsome.
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So he should have
everything going for him.
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And so when he loses
this job in 1973,
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things weren't perfect.
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He was not in control.
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And some ways that people may
try to over-correct for that
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is by gaining control in some
other aspect of their life.
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And you know,
perhaps it triggered
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his need to control
something or someone.
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- When the Otero
family was killed,
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the way he tells it,
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he was between jobs, was bored,
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didn't feel good about himself,
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so factor X came out.
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[intense ambient music]
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- When you look back at
the first known kills
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for these five serial killers,
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you have to understand that
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they have been
fantasizing about killing
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for a long time.
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It starts with developing
victim profiles in their head.
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Where they would
get these victims,
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how they would control them.
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Rader's life centered
around a lot of fantasy,
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but you can only
fantasize so long
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before you cross that line.
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And that was the case
with John Wayne Gacy.
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[intense ambient music]
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- In my mind,
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John Gacy was the worst kind
of a killer you can imagine.
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You know, like a shark
swimming around down there.
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He would lay his eyes on
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somebody walking
down the street.
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And then in his mind,
that person was dead.
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[dramatic music]
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John Gacy frequented
homosexual areas in Chicago.
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There was a couple of areas,
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one called Bughouse Square
and the other called Boystown.
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He patrolled down there.
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I mean, he would go
around the block,
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looking for somebody to pick up.
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He had a black Oldsmobile
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with a spotlight on
the driver's side.
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He had some phony badges.
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A lot of the kids
that he picked up,
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a lot of them were homosexuals.
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Many of them, he
took to his house.
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And many of them, that
was a one-way trip.
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[intense electronic music]
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- Gacy picked up 16-year-old
Timothy Jack McCoy
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at the Greyhound bus station.
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- According to Gacy,
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what happened was he
offered him money for sex.
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He got him back to his
house, Gacy's house.
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When he was in bed,
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they did what they
did with one another.
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- He wakes up in the morning
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and the kid's standing
at the foot of his bed
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with a big butcher
knife in his hand.
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And he thinks the kid's coming
after him to attack him.
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He jumps out of
bed, fights with him
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takes the knife away from him,
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and stabbed him in
the heart twice.
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Killed him.
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- What's interesting about this
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is that for most normal people,
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you would probably call somebody
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because now you've
just killed somebody.
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And Gacy reports being aroused
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and orgasming in this
most intense way.
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- He goes into the kitchen,
283
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and there, the kid's
been preparing breakfast.
284
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He was slicing the bacon.
285
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These are Gacy's words,
286
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but he said that he
probably wanted to know
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how thick I wanted
my bacon sliced.
288
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But unfortunately, he didn't
take it that way at the time,
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and he says, defended
himself and killed him.
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Buried him in the crawl space.
291
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- This is when
Gacy crosses over,
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when he has his first kill.
293
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And now, he recognizes that
powerful arousal component
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of controlling somebody's life,
295
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essentially playing God,
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deciding whether
they live or die.
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And that's where
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he then starts this
collection of young men
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who he tortures
as a sexual sadist
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and eventually kills.
301
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So when we look back
at the serial killers,
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we're typically looking
for a triggering event.
303
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But in Gacy's life,
304
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there was, I think, a series
of things that were going on.
305
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- John Gacy was given
the middle name of Wayne.
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His father wanted his
son to be this tough guy
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named after this hero cowboy,
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just like John Wayne.
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Well, when his son
wanted to spend more time
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with his mother and
do more gardening,
311
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Gacy's father would
verbally assault,
312
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emotionally assault,
313
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and physically assault
John Wayne Gacy Jr.
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- John Wayne Gacy, around
the age of four or five,
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is at home upstairs
with a neighbor girl
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who was much older than him,
317
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a teenage girl.
318
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And apparently, she was
fondling his genitals
319
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or touching him in
sort of a sexual way.
320
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Well, both mothers come
upstairs and discover this.
321
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The mother of the girl
strikes her in front of Gacy.
322
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A moment like this
is really significant
323
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in that you have sexuality
being joined with shame,
324
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being joined with
physical aggression.
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A combination like that
326
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would produce someone who is
capable of acting in a way
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that is both sexual, and
aggressive, and shame inducing.
328
00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:50,069
And that's exactly what
John Wayne Gacy did.
329
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[slate clicks]
330
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- I was molested
when I was a boy.
331
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It's hard to think back on it
and admit it ever happened.
332
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It takes away from how you
look at yourself as a male.
333
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And that was part of the reason
334
00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:14,441
I never told anybody
for all those decades.
335
00:18:21,056 --> 00:18:26,148
When I was nine or
10 years old in 1956,
336
00:18:26,192 --> 00:18:31,458
my mother and I went up to
resort in Elkhorn, Wisconsin.
337
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A fellow named John,
he was about 16.
338
00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:39,466
He worked there,
he did odd jobs.
339
00:18:42,295 --> 00:18:45,950
I didn't have any buddies
up there to spend time with
340
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and so he befriended me.
341
00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:50,433
He had some time off
342
00:18:50,477 --> 00:18:53,480
and he wanted to know if I
wanted to go in a boat with him.
343
00:18:53,523 --> 00:18:54,916
So he took me out in a boat.
344
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I'd never been in
a rowboat before,
345
00:18:57,005 --> 00:19:00,487
so that was fun for a little
nine or 10 year old boy.
346
00:19:02,576 --> 00:19:04,012
We tied up the boat.
347
00:19:06,928 --> 00:19:11,976
He ah, he took me in
the thicket and um,
348
00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,155
ah, he did a terrible thing.
349
00:19:16,198 --> 00:19:17,504
He did a terrible thing.
350
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He took me by the shoulder
and said, "Follow me,"
351
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threatened to kill me
if I didn't comply.
352
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,038
And I turned around.
353
00:19:30,081 --> 00:19:32,171
He said, "Open your mouth."
354
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I opened my mouth and um,
355
00:19:44,008 --> 00:19:45,706
that's what happened.
356
00:19:46,924 --> 00:19:50,885
Thank God it was over quickly.
357
00:19:51,755 --> 00:19:52,887
It was over quickly.
358
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Is a person born evil?
359
00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:59,023
Do they become evil?
360
00:19:59,067 --> 00:20:00,895
I don't have an answer for that.
361
00:20:02,418 --> 00:20:06,901
- Serial sexual killers do
not snap at 30 years of age
362
00:20:06,944 --> 00:20:08,642
and become serial killers.
363
00:20:08,685 --> 00:20:10,209
It evolves over time.
364
00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:12,733
And that time begins
when they're quite young.
365
00:20:14,822 --> 00:20:19,696
As that desire for these violent
sexual fantasies continue,
366
00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:23,091
offenders can look for
more and more opportunities
367
00:20:23,134 --> 00:20:27,226
to satisfy those
urges and compulsions.
368
00:20:31,578 --> 00:20:33,188
- In the 1960s,
369
00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:37,758
Gacy started edging closer
and closer to murder.
370
00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:41,936
He had sexual relations with
teenagers, underage kids.
371
00:20:41,979 --> 00:20:43,764
This was his MO out there.
372
00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:49,204
One of these young kids
was Donald Voorhees Jr.
373
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He was the son of a state
representative in Iowa.
374
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:56,733
Gacy would show him
some stag films.
375
00:20:57,821 --> 00:21:01,129
They did have sexual acts
together numerous times.
376
00:21:03,349 --> 00:21:06,743
- When the boy finally told
his father what had happened,
377
00:21:06,787 --> 00:21:08,789
his father went right
to the state police
378
00:21:08,832 --> 00:21:12,619
and demanded that Gacy
be arrested and tried.
379
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- He was charged with sodomy
380
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of a 15 year old boy.
381
00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:19,321
- They threw the book at him.
382
00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:21,149
He got get the maximum 10 years.
383
00:21:22,498 --> 00:21:23,369
- Well, I'm John Gacy.
384
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I'm from Waterloo, Iowa.
385
00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:27,460
- [Interviewer] And you're a
man of them authority here.
386
00:21:27,503 --> 00:21:28,809
What is your title?
387
00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:30,419
- Well, I'm first cook.
388
00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:36,469
- Gacy was not only a
model prisoner at Anamosa.
389
00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:38,993
He almost seemed
to run the prison.
390
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,259
The parole board looked at
Gacy's actions within the prison
391
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,391
and said, well, okay,
392
00:21:45,434 --> 00:21:47,349
he could probably
be a model citizen.
393
00:21:47,393 --> 00:21:48,481
Let's release him.
394
00:21:51,048 --> 00:21:52,833
Out of his 10 year sentence,
395
00:21:52,876 --> 00:21:55,836
Gacy only served 18 months.
396
00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,188
- In the 1970s,
397
00:22:00,231 --> 00:22:03,278
there was no such thing as
a sex offender registry.
398
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,193
It just didn't exist.
399
00:22:05,236 --> 00:22:09,545
So essentially, Gacy is
allowed to go to Chicago
400
00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:13,332
and begin his life
with a clean slate.
401
00:22:15,159 --> 00:22:17,336
- If Gacy had served
his full sentence,
402
00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:18,859
that would have brought about
403
00:22:18,902 --> 00:22:22,863
one of the great ironies and
sad ironies to this case,
404
00:22:22,906 --> 00:22:27,520
meaning that 33 young
lives would not be gone.
405
00:22:35,571 --> 00:22:38,182
- The case stands out
because it was so brazen.
406
00:22:38,226 --> 00:22:39,270
I mean, there were other
407
00:22:39,314 --> 00:22:41,838
roommates in the home
at the time.
408
00:22:41,882 --> 00:22:43,492
No one heard anything.
409
00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:47,366
It was hard to believe
that someone could slip in
410
00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:53,502
and abduct a young woman
right out of her bedroom
411
00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:56,375
without anybody hearing a thing.
412
00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:00,379
But that's what happened.
413
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,385
[downbeat rock music]
414
00:23:08,909 --> 00:23:13,217
- In 1974, there was a
new freedom for women.
415
00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:15,263
Law schools, medical schools,
416
00:23:15,306 --> 00:23:19,006
you know, were forced to admit
women and people of color.
417
00:23:19,049 --> 00:23:20,790
And it was about time.
418
00:23:20,834 --> 00:23:23,532
It was a time when you
could aspire to anything.
419
00:23:27,144 --> 00:23:28,668
- In 1974,
420
00:23:28,711 --> 00:23:32,323
Ted Bundy was a graduate of
the University of Washington
421
00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:34,238
and he was attending law school,
422
00:23:34,282 --> 00:23:38,199
but living in the University
of Washington District.
423
00:23:38,242 --> 00:23:40,027
He wanted to be a famous lawyer,
424
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:41,768
he wanted to be a politician.
425
00:23:41,811 --> 00:23:44,640
He was trying to become
426
00:23:44,684 --> 00:23:48,949
an up-and-comer among
people he admired.
427
00:23:54,824 --> 00:23:56,086
- Lynda Healy.
428
00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:58,611
She was a University
of Washington student
429
00:23:58,654 --> 00:24:01,962
who was abducted from
her basement bedroom.
430
00:24:03,659 --> 00:24:05,792
She just disappeared
without a trace.
431
00:24:08,185 --> 00:24:11,188
- Lynda Healy lived off campus
432
00:24:11,232 --> 00:24:13,974
in a house with some
of her girlfriends.
433
00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,629
And her apartment
was in the basement.
434
00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:23,505
- Her roommates hadn't
seen her for a day or two.
435
00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:25,812
And finally, one
of them went down
436
00:24:25,855 --> 00:24:27,509
and went into her room.
437
00:24:27,553 --> 00:24:30,164
And it looked like
she had been there.
438
00:24:30,207 --> 00:24:32,514
Her bed was perfectly made.
439
00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:35,386
They spotted some blood though
440
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:37,040
and opened a closet
441
00:24:37,084 --> 00:24:40,522
and found a nightgown
that had the blood on it.
442
00:24:40,566 --> 00:24:42,002
- She was missing.
443
00:24:42,045 --> 00:24:43,656
Nobody knew where she went.
444
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:47,355
Lynda was just gone.
445
00:24:49,444 --> 00:24:50,706
The crime scene,
446
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:54,188
the place where Lynda Ann
Healy disappeared from
447
00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:56,538
was processed to some extent
448
00:24:56,582 --> 00:24:58,671
by the Seattle
Police Department.
449
00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:00,934
- We didn't have crime
scene technicians.
450
00:25:00,977 --> 00:25:02,675
We didn't have digital cameras.
451
00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:05,721
And I remember my
Lieutenant telling me,
452
00:25:05,765 --> 00:25:07,984
you have film, it's expensive.
453
00:25:08,028 --> 00:25:10,987
You're using flash
bulbs, they're expensive.
454
00:25:11,031 --> 00:25:12,859
Don't take a lot of pictures.
455
00:25:12,902 --> 00:25:14,687
So crime scenes, you know,
456
00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:16,253
even a homicide crime scenes
457
00:25:16,297 --> 00:25:19,561
might only have like
20 or 30 pictures.
458
00:25:19,605 --> 00:25:21,389
And today, we have hundreds.
459
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:31,791
- There weren't any particular
suspects at this point.
460
00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:34,881
That was kind of a one-off case.
461
00:25:35,969 --> 00:25:37,840
- It was the beginning
of that series
462
00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:41,888
of young women disappearing
from college campuses
463
00:25:41,931 --> 00:25:45,239
and other areas around
the Pacific Northwest.
464
00:25:54,204 --> 00:25:55,902
- Our son is the best
son in the world.
465
00:25:55,945 --> 00:25:58,905
He's a very normal, active boy.
466
00:25:58,948 --> 00:26:03,431
He did all the things that
most boys liked to do.
467
00:26:05,085 --> 00:26:09,002
- Ted Bundy was known to have
had a very unusual childhood.
468
00:26:09,045 --> 00:26:11,439
He was considered an
illegitimate birth.
469
00:26:11,482 --> 00:26:13,397
The mother was not
married at the time.
470
00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:17,445
And then he was raised for the
first few years of his life
471
00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:21,275
in the home of his
maternal grandparents.
472
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:24,321
- Ted Bundy was brought
up on the assumption
473
00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:26,323
that his grandparents
are his parents
474
00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:28,021
and his mother is his sister.
475
00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:31,894
He's sort of brought into
this world or web of lies
476
00:26:31,938 --> 00:26:34,941
and starts forming
his personality
477
00:26:34,984 --> 00:26:37,639
based on this family dynamic
478
00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:40,076
that is really an
unhealthy dynamic.
479
00:26:43,123 --> 00:26:48,084
- I knew Ted Bundy from the
time I was five until I was 15.
480
00:26:48,911 --> 00:26:50,478
My brother was Ted's age,
481
00:26:50,521 --> 00:26:52,959
so most of the boys
hung out together
482
00:26:53,002 --> 00:26:55,614
and I was the tag
along little sister.
483
00:26:56,832 --> 00:27:00,880
My brother told me very early
on to stay clear of Ted.
484
00:27:00,923 --> 00:27:04,492
He was just a mean spirited kid.
485
00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:09,584
Ted liked building
holes in the ground
486
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,500
with sharp stakes pointing up.
487
00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:16,765
And then he'd make this
big thing of leaves,
488
00:27:16,809 --> 00:27:18,071
and sticks, and twigs
489
00:27:18,114 --> 00:27:20,813
so that you couldn't
tell that it was there.
490
00:27:22,118 --> 00:27:25,121
And one of the girls from
a couple of streets up
491
00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:26,862
went through one
492
00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:31,998
and got the whole side of
her leg gashed up really bad.
493
00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:35,349
He liked that.
494
00:27:35,392 --> 00:27:40,354
He liked scaring people,
especially little girls.
495
00:27:40,397 --> 00:27:42,530
And he liked hurting them.
496
00:27:46,403 --> 00:27:51,191
And he liked hurting animals
that were small and helpless.
497
00:27:52,583 --> 00:27:54,063
There was a cat in
our neighborhood
498
00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:56,849
that was hanging
from a clothes line
499
00:27:56,892 --> 00:27:58,285
and it was on fire.
500
00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:02,593
He'd lit it up with
gasoline, with lighter fluid,
501
00:28:02,637 --> 00:28:04,204
and set it on fire.
502
00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:06,554
And you could hear
that cat screaming.
503
00:28:07,816 --> 00:28:08,861
It was horrible.
504
00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:14,388
- In terms of the five serial
killers we're discussing,
505
00:28:14,431 --> 00:28:17,870
animal cruelty may be
sort of a practice run
506
00:28:17,913 --> 00:28:20,611
for violence and
aggression against humans.
507
00:28:20,655 --> 00:28:24,572
If an individual has the
capacity to harm an animal,
508
00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:26,748
it's really not
much more of a leap
509
00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:29,751
for them to harm
another human being.
510
00:28:30,578 --> 00:28:31,753
We certainly see
it with Ridgway,
511
00:28:31,797 --> 00:28:33,712
we certainly see with Rader,
512
00:28:33,755 --> 00:28:37,063
the same with Gacy
and then Bundy.
513
00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:42,895
- His behavior spoke very
loudly of who he was.
514
00:28:44,287 --> 00:28:47,682
And I doubt if any of the
people in the neighborhood
515
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,424
were surprised when
Ted was killing women.
516
00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:01,087
[intense ambient music]
517
00:29:02,479 --> 00:29:04,568
- By the time Ted Bundy
was a young teenager,
518
00:29:04,612 --> 00:29:08,224
he was shoplifting,
he was lying.
519
00:29:08,268 --> 00:29:11,662
He was a Peeping Tom
in Tacoma neighborhoods
520
00:29:11,706 --> 00:29:14,143
when he was 14 or so.
521
00:29:15,101 --> 00:29:17,320
He applied to the
University of Washington
522
00:29:17,364 --> 00:29:18,887
and started attending.
523
00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:22,108
And he learned in
a psychology class
524
00:29:22,151 --> 00:29:26,939
that people will help somebody
who appears vulnerable.
525
00:29:28,984 --> 00:29:31,639
- Prior to Ted
Bundy's first kill,
526
00:29:31,682 --> 00:29:34,294
we want to look at what's
going on in his life.
527
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,169
He'd been dating a woman
named Stephanie Brooks.
528
00:29:41,431 --> 00:29:44,434
- Stephanie Brooks represented
everything that he wanted,
529
00:29:44,478 --> 00:29:48,656
but really just couldn't
achieve on his own.
530
00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:52,834
Upper class life,
access, beauty.
531
00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:58,013
And being with her, he
had those things by proxy.
532
00:29:58,361 --> 00:30:01,712
- So, Bundy's low view
of himself
533
00:30:01,756 --> 00:30:05,629
was really elevated by
dating Stephanie Brooks
534
00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:08,937
until Stephanie
broke up with him.
535
00:30:11,722 --> 00:30:13,550
This was a real turning
point for Bundy.
536
00:30:13,594 --> 00:30:15,814
It was devastating for him.
537
00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:19,078
He felt abandoned,
he felt betrayed.
538
00:30:19,121 --> 00:30:21,428
And it's this point when Bundy,
539
00:30:21,471 --> 00:30:26,346
who has been fantasizing
over a long period of time,
540
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:29,653
actually decides
he's going to act out
541
00:30:29,697 --> 00:30:32,352
and try to capture
his first victim.
542
00:30:33,396 --> 00:30:34,441
- In Bundy's case,
543
00:30:34,484 --> 00:30:35,703
it's often discussed
544
00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:38,184
how his victims had
a physical similarity
545
00:30:38,227 --> 00:30:41,796
to the woman that broke
his heart basically.
546
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,711
And that perhaps,
and in that regard,
547
00:30:43,754 --> 00:30:45,931
it might've been more
revenge, or retribution,
548
00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:47,323
or along that lines.
549
00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:52,415
- He was so angry at
her for breaking it off
550
00:30:52,459 --> 00:30:54,200
that this entity in him,
551
00:30:54,243 --> 00:30:58,334
this compulsion to
kill would take over.
552
00:30:59,466 --> 00:31:03,731
He really couldn't control
his impulses anymore.
553
00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:07,561
And a few years later,
Lynda Ann Healy was killed.
554
00:31:09,911 --> 00:31:11,739
- There's something
about the first kill
555
00:31:11,782 --> 00:31:15,482
that might've served a
particular psychological purpose
556
00:31:15,525 --> 00:31:18,354
that they might have
become addicted to.
557
00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:22,881
You see this with Bundy and
you see this with Dennis Rader.
558
00:31:26,275 --> 00:31:30,497
- After the Otero murders,
police were really baffled.
559
00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:34,893
They had absolutely
no suspects at all.
560
00:31:36,372 --> 00:31:40,072
Three months after
the Otero murders,
561
00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:43,075
Dennis Rader decided he
was going to kill again.
562
00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,689
- This time, it's a
Wichita State student,
563
00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:49,777
Kathryn Bright.
564
00:31:52,127 --> 00:31:54,956
- Dennis saw Kathryn Bright
565
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,526
and he decided that she
would be his next victim.
566
00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:02,572
And so for the next several
weeks, he stalked her.
567
00:32:03,617 --> 00:32:06,272
- But he didn't plan
for her little brother
568
00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:08,796
to be at the residence.
569
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:26,945
- While he's there,
he ties them both up.
570
00:32:26,988 --> 00:32:29,643
And then Kevin
gets his feet loose
571
00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:31,993
and he attacks Dennis Rader.
572
00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:33,255
This is totally unexpected,
573
00:32:33,299 --> 00:32:36,258
not in Dennis
Rader's plan at all.
574
00:32:52,144 --> 00:32:53,232
- At that point, the killer
575
00:32:53,275 --> 00:32:55,451
makes his way
back over to Kathryn.
576
00:32:55,495 --> 00:32:57,627
There's quite a
struggle with her.
577
00:32:57,671 --> 00:32:59,107
At some point during
that struggle,
578
00:32:59,151 --> 00:33:03,285
a knife comes out and Kathryn
is stabbed multiple times
579
00:33:03,329 --> 00:33:05,331
with quite a bit of ferocity.
580
00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:14,993
Kevin still survived and
Kevin runs out the front door.
581
00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:27,179
[suspenseful ambient music]
582
00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:35,752
[suspenseful ambient music]
583
00:33:35,796 --> 00:33:37,972
- Kevin Bright runs out,
584
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:42,150
runs to a convenience
store across the street,
585
00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:44,283
and the police are called.
586
00:33:52,378 --> 00:33:55,163
[siren blaring]
587
00:33:56,077 --> 00:33:58,166
- By the time officers arrived,
588
00:33:58,210 --> 00:34:02,649
Kathryn is on the floor
right outside her kitchen.
589
00:34:02,692 --> 00:34:05,695
An officer asked her
initially, you know,
590
00:34:05,739 --> 00:34:06,566
do you know who did this to you?
591
00:34:06,609 --> 00:34:08,220
And she says, no.
592
00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:11,745
That's really the last
communication she makes.
593
00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:13,094
She's taken
594
00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:15,923
and they try to save her
life for several hours,
595
00:34:15,966 --> 00:34:17,490
but she dies later that day.
596
00:34:19,883 --> 00:34:22,495
- He should have been
caught, but he wasn't.
597
00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:24,758
And that's why in
the future kills,
598
00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:26,238
he wanted to be very careful
599
00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:28,631
to make sure, A, no
man was involved,
600
00:34:28,675 --> 00:34:29,937
no dog was involved,
601
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:32,026
that everything went better.
602
00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:37,075
- The description that
came from Kevin Bright
603
00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:39,468
pretty much matches
Dennis Rader.
604
00:34:39,512 --> 00:34:43,690
However, the description
didn't do much good.
605
00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:46,780
They're looking for a loner.
606
00:34:46,823 --> 00:34:48,477
They're looking for a criminal.
607
00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:51,698
They're looking for someone
out of the ordinary.
608
00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:55,919
- They were looking for somebody
609
00:34:55,963 --> 00:34:59,967
that had a reason to
commit these murders.
610
00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:05,277
And even though Dennis
Rader's right in their sight,
611
00:35:06,016 --> 00:35:07,975
he is a church goer,
612
00:35:08,018 --> 00:35:10,804
he is well known
in the community,
613
00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:12,675
they don't see him
614
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,156
because they don't
see him as somebody
615
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,115
who could do
something like that.
616
00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:20,596
- It stayed a big news
story for a long time.
617
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,120
There was a lot
of follow up on it
618
00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:23,556
and there was some consternation
619
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,993
when they couldn't
find the killer.
620
00:35:26,036 --> 00:35:28,343
And that became a
secondary news story.
621
00:35:28,387 --> 00:35:30,432
Was the police
department doing its job?
622
00:35:30,476 --> 00:35:31,999
Why haven't they caught the guy?
623
00:35:32,042 --> 00:35:33,348
What are the leads?
624
00:35:34,871 --> 00:35:38,832
- Now, you have five
homicides in Wichita, Kansas
625
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:41,965
within a few months
of one another.
626
00:35:43,532 --> 00:35:46,796
- When we look at law
enforcement capability,
627
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,189
we have to understand
628
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:51,671
that they didn't have the
technological advances
629
00:35:51,714 --> 00:35:53,847
that we have today to detect
630
00:35:53,890 --> 00:35:57,633
or even make connections
between homicide cases.
631
00:35:57,677 --> 00:36:00,027
Particularly in BTK's example,
632
00:36:00,070 --> 00:36:02,029
Wichita, Kansas in the '70s,
633
00:36:02,072 --> 00:36:04,553
small town, small police force.
634
00:36:04,597 --> 00:36:08,209
They're not used to dealing
with homicide cases.
635
00:36:08,253 --> 00:36:10,124
They're not trained in that way.
636
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,866
- In the early days,
637
00:36:12,909 --> 00:36:14,824
nobody linked Kathryn Bright
638
00:36:14,868 --> 00:36:17,131
and her brother to
the Otero murder.
639
00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:19,394
There were maybe
some similarities,
640
00:36:19,438 --> 00:36:20,613
but everybody thought
641
00:36:20,656 --> 00:36:24,225
that these were just
individual murders.
642
00:36:24,269 --> 00:36:27,881
We had no idea that it was going
to turn into something huge
643
00:36:27,924 --> 00:36:29,796
and really something monstrous.
644
00:36:35,105 --> 00:36:37,282
- By the spring of 1974,
645
00:36:37,325 --> 00:36:40,415
Ted Bundy's MO was going
to college campuses
646
00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:41,547
where he fit in.
647
00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:44,114
I mean, he looked
like a student.
648
00:36:44,158 --> 00:36:49,468
Well, at that time, college
campuses were a safe place.
649
00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:55,735
A young woman on a campus
wouldn't think twice
650
00:36:55,778 --> 00:36:58,216
about walking from the
library late at night
651
00:36:58,259 --> 00:36:59,478
to her dorm room.
652
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:01,567
And of course,
653
00:37:01,610 --> 00:37:03,917
parents obviously wanted
to send their children
654
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,353
to someplace safe.
655
00:37:07,442 --> 00:37:11,098
- Sue was a dream child.
656
00:37:13,013 --> 00:37:14,710
Very ambitious.
657
00:37:14,754 --> 00:37:18,279
All she wanted from
the time she was tiny
658
00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:20,063
was to go to school.
659
00:37:21,761 --> 00:37:26,244
You know, mothers have
a certain second sense
660
00:37:26,287 --> 00:37:30,422
when it comes to their children.
661
00:37:32,815 --> 00:37:35,992
She was boarding the airplane.
662
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:40,606
She turned around
and she looked at me,
663
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:46,438
and she just gave a little wave.
664
00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:54,533
And I told my husband,
I'll never see her again.
665
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:08,460
[somber music]
666
00:38:09,591 --> 00:38:14,335
- Sue was loving everything
about college life.
667
00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:16,990
She was so happy there.
668
00:38:17,033 --> 00:38:21,299
This was her dream
and her destiny.
669
00:38:22,952 --> 00:38:27,827
She had made arrangements
to meet another dorm mate.
670
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:31,134
And when she didn't come
back from that meeting,
671
00:38:31,178 --> 00:38:36,444
her roommate knew immediately
that something was wrong.
672
00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,362
So they called
the campus police.
673
00:38:41,406 --> 00:38:45,671
- For her not to come
home was just not right.
674
00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:47,499
She just wouldn't do
that kind of thing.
675
00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:48,674
She just wouldn't.
676
00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,938
- When my husband told me,
677
00:38:51,981 --> 00:38:54,941
I just had this uneasy feeling.
678
00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:59,162
He said, "Sue's missing
and they can't find her."
679
00:38:59,206 --> 00:39:01,817
And I said, "No, she's dead."
680
00:39:04,037 --> 00:39:06,039
It was a different world.
681
00:39:06,082 --> 00:39:11,000
We didn't have computers,
or DNA, or Amber Alerts.
682
00:39:12,088 --> 00:39:13,960
And the police departments
683
00:39:14,003 --> 00:39:17,355
were not coordinating
with each other.
684
00:39:17,398 --> 00:39:22,403
And we were out there
buying ads in Seattle paper.
685
00:39:22,447 --> 00:39:25,014
You know, have you
seen this child?
686
00:39:31,194 --> 00:39:35,547
- In a lot of the cases at
first involving Ted Bundy,
687
00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:37,853
people sometimes
speculated that,
688
00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:40,639
oh, well, the girl is
just off on her own
689
00:39:40,682 --> 00:39:43,163
or maybe she's spending
a couple nights
690
00:39:43,206 --> 00:39:45,731
with a new boyfriend.
691
00:39:45,774 --> 00:39:47,036
In the '70s,
692
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,736
the concept of a serial
killer was something
693
00:39:50,779 --> 00:39:55,001
that people pretty much
attributed to a horror movie.
694
00:39:55,044 --> 00:39:57,960
So there wasn't a really
good understanding
695
00:39:58,004 --> 00:39:59,962
about that concept.
696
00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:04,924
- At one point, someone
asked my husband,
697
00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:07,100
"Aren't you going to feel silly
698
00:40:07,143 --> 00:40:10,495
when she shows up
married to somebody?"
699
00:40:10,538 --> 00:40:15,804
And I think that kind of
was the mentality back then.
700
00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:20,418
It's a different mentality
now, thank goodness.
701
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:26,206
- During the first half of 1974,
702
00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:28,774
there were a series of murders,
703
00:40:28,817 --> 00:40:30,732
about one a month,
704
00:40:31,646 --> 00:40:33,953
pretty much of the same age.
705
00:40:33,996 --> 00:40:36,695
They looked very
similar to one another
706
00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:39,828
and they lived
similar lifestyles
707
00:40:39,872 --> 00:40:43,092
as young women in 20s lived.
708
00:40:44,746 --> 00:40:48,576
Ted Bundy's MO was to
709
00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:52,058
try and get women to trust him
710
00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:53,276
and go with him.
711
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,235
He was the kind of person
712
00:40:55,278 --> 00:40:59,065
that could talk a young
woman into helping him,
713
00:40:59,108 --> 00:41:00,240
a stranger.
714
00:41:00,283 --> 00:41:02,677
He was looking for
the empathetic female
715
00:41:02,721 --> 00:41:05,985
so he could overpower her
and ultimately kill her.
716
00:41:09,554 --> 00:41:11,556
- The night she disappeared,
717
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,993
she walked across campus
718
00:41:14,036 --> 00:41:17,257
and he was standing
at the library,
719
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:21,479
which she had to walk in
front of to get to her dorm,
720
00:41:21,522 --> 00:41:23,481
with his arm in a sling.
721
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:30,618
And he called to her and asked
her to help carry his books.
722
00:41:31,532 --> 00:41:33,273
Could you help me to my car?
723
00:41:33,316 --> 00:41:34,666
It's just over there.
724
00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:47,113
We teach our children to be
compassionate, to be helpful,
725
00:41:48,114 --> 00:41:51,639
and to reach out to
those that are disabled.
726
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:58,385
You know, were we wrong
to bring her up that way?
727
00:41:59,038 --> 00:42:00,866
I don't think so.
728
00:42:00,909 --> 00:42:06,175
It's so important for
them to care for others.
729
00:42:06,436 --> 00:42:08,395
And that's what happened.
730
00:42:08,438 --> 00:42:09,657
She helped him.
731
00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:20,059
- Contrary to what we
might think,
732
00:42:20,102 --> 00:42:23,584
serial killers don't come
across to the outside world
733
00:42:23,628 --> 00:42:26,108
as frothing lunatics.
734
00:42:26,152 --> 00:42:29,547
- We are not some kinds
of inherent monsters.
735
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:31,897
We are your sons and
we are your husbands.
736
00:42:33,463 --> 00:42:35,248
- Dennis Rader had a BTK side
737
00:42:35,291 --> 00:42:38,556
and he had a Dennis Rader,
the family man side.
738
00:42:39,905 --> 00:42:42,255
He much preferred the BTK side.
739
00:42:43,082 --> 00:42:44,736
- With guys like Bundy,
740
00:42:44,779 --> 00:42:48,304
you have a success, and then
another, and then another.
741
00:42:48,348 --> 00:42:53,571
And pretty soon, you start
to believe you're invincible.
742
00:42:53,788 --> 00:42:55,877
- John Wayne Gacy
built carefully
743
00:42:55,921 --> 00:42:59,098
an entire life to live,
a facade, a duality.
744
00:42:59,794 --> 00:43:00,882
- My brother says,
745
00:43:00,926 --> 00:43:03,450
"Me and this boy
are working together
746
00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:06,932
and we're digging
around Gacy's house."
747
00:43:06,975 --> 00:43:09,717
Well, it ended up they were
digging their own graves.
748
00:43:09,761 --> 00:43:11,893
[intense ambient music]
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