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- This is 911.
- I have paramedics on the way.
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- No pulse. He's cold.
- Super cold.
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- Is he also stiff?
- Yes.
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He was lying there
in the hotel bed,
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face-up with one arm
across his chest,
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the other arm down by his side.
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Bob Saget...
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has passed away in 2022.
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When he died, it felt like
a small piece of my growing up
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had really ended.
It was very shocking.
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Bob Saget's death, while
tragic, was really suspicious
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because of the injuries
that he sustained.
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He had a variety of fractures
at the back of the skull,
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extending all the way around
to the front of the skull.
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There's no way that
this was just a fall.
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I mean, what kind of injury
to the back of your head
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breaks the front of your eyes?
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Bob Saget was murdered
by some unknown force.
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Hulk Hogan has been ensnared
by the belief
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the COVID-19 vaccine
killed Bob Saget.
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You're gonna fall so quick
and hit your head
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on that lip of the shower?
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There was certainly a lot
of unanswered questions.
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911. Emergency.
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The official narrative
doesn't tell the whole story.
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But you really
have to look at everything.
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You still have to go down
that rabbit hole.
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You still have to go down
that path.
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When a celebrity dies,
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the search for answers
moves online,
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and the truth
may be one click away.
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This is 911.
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- 4012 Central Florida Parkway.
- At the Ritz.
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I have paramedics on the way.
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January 9, 2022,
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around 3:30 p.m. local time,
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emergency responders
receive a distressed call
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from the Ritz-Carlton,
Grande Lakes, in Orlando.
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- Male or female?
- It is a male.
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As the call goes on, it's clear
the situation is grave.
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- He's cold.
- He's super cold.
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- Is he also stiff?
- Yes.
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Do you think
he's beyond any help?
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- This one.
- Oh, nobody's here.
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Police arrive on the scene
around 4:00 p.m. local time.
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Body-camera footage
shows officers
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knocking on the wrong door...
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...before heading next door
to room 962.
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Once inside, they're met
with a grim scene.
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He was lying there
in the hotel bed,
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face-up, with one arm
across his chest,
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the other arm down by his side.
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Bob Saget,
"America's Favorite Dad,"
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is pronounced dead.
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Bob Saget is best known
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for his role as Danny Tanner
on "Full House"
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and host of "America's
Funniest Home Videos."
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Hey, hey! I'm a geek!
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- My name is Steve Helling.
- I'm a celebrity reporter.
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I work for People magazine.
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And I have been
covering celebrities
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and also crime
for the last 20 years.
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Growing up, Bob Saget
was a funny guy.
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He was the class clown.
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Everybody thought that
he always had the jokes.
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And so he was working
the comedy clubs
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when he got into
his early twenties.
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He was doing odd jobs,
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and he was trying to
make it work as a comedian.
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In the late 1980s,
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he actually got signed
to "The Morning" show.
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I'd be scared to wear that
'cause people would think
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I'm a basket case.
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He did that for a little bit,
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and then he signed on
to a really surprising thing,
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which was a show called
"Full House."
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And from that moment,
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he's known as
America's Favorite Dad,
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with his wholesome advice
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permeating into
millions of homes.
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-Everybody wishes they
could change something about themselves.
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He also got a job working for
"America's Funniest Home Videos"
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during that time, and he was
on "AFV" for several years,
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and he was doing
both shows at once.
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So he was very, very busy
and he was very, very famous.
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For "Full House" fans,
Saget is Danny Tanner,
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the wholesome father figure.
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My name is Mike Rothschild,
and I'm a journalist
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and author who studies
conspiracy theories,
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fringe beliefs,
hoaxes, and scams,
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anything that your aunt forwards
on Facebook without reading it.
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I grew up watching "Full House."
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It was one of those families
that you felt like
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you knew the ins and outs
of the Tanners.
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And when he died, it felt like
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a small piece of my growing up
had really ended.
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It was very shocking.
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The circumstances around
Saget's death don't add up.
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America is stunned,
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and those closest to him
are devastated.
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When the autopsy is released,
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the official cause of death
is made public.
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Saget died
of blunt-force head trauma.
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According to the report,
the fatal blow was caused
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by an "unwitnessed
ground-level fall."
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Almost immediately after the
autopsy results are released,
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the chatter online multiplies.
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It's just weird, right?
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We can all agree
this is very, very weird.
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It don't take a rocket scientist
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to figure out this one
don't make sense, y'all.
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Within weeks of Saget's death,
rumors and speculation
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about the autopsy report's
findings grow.
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I was really drawn
to Bob Saget's death
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because when I was in college
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studying for my master's degree
in forensic science,
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my thesis was on
traumatic brain injuries,
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so I did a lot of research
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on the effects
of traumatic brain injuries
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and what happens when you injure
your skull and your brain.
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And when I heard
that that was basically
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the cause of death
for Bob Saget,
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it instantly sucked me in
and I wanted to know more.
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- My name is Deanna Thompson.
- I am an I.T. specialist.
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And I specialize
in data analytics
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and database construction.
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I am also web sleuth at night
and on my weekends.
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My motto is "the Internet
is the new crime scene."
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But for Deanna, web sleuthing
isn't just a hobby.
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She's solving crimes, recently
leading an online manhunt
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for notorious killer
Luka Magnotta.
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Her in-depth
online investigation
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was featured on the documentary
"Don't F with Cats."
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Now she's in high demand for
those desperate to crack a case.
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I sleuth because
it's the only thing
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I know how to do
in order to combat injustice.
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While the police
have officially closed
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the investigation
in the Bob Saget case,
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the search for truth online
has just begun.
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Thousands of online detectives
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log in to message boards
and chat rooms,
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poking holes in the official
cause of death.
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While the official explanation
is "blunt head trauma"
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due to an "unwitnessed fall,"
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users on Reddit, 4chan, and
TikTok have different theories
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about what really happened
to America's Favorite Dad.
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My name is Justin Ling.
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I am a freelance
investigative journalist
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who specializes
in misinformation,
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conspiracy theories,
and crazy nonsense.
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Armchair detectives
or Web sleuths
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can do a lot of good.
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I mean, they can,
with the help of numbers,
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uncover things and come up
with ideas or find leads
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that just a handful of police
detectives or journalists
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may not be able to find.
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Fans, family,
and forensic online sleuths
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log on to message boards
and chat rooms
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to read the chatter around
the official cause of death,
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which to them
doesn't quite make sense.
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"We just want to know
what's going on."
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"Isn't this weird?"
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"Why don't they want us
asking questions?"
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"Let's find this out together."
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So it becomes very much like,
"We're all in this together.
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Let's figure out
our version of the truth."
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It's never presented as,
"This is what happened,
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and you're not allowed
to question it."
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It's presented as, "We're all
asking the same question.
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What don't they want us
to know?"
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Investigations have evolved
and changed drastically
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over the years,
really over the decades.
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Just in the last few years
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is the concept of
crowdsourcing investigations.
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I mean, what kind of injury
to the back of your head
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breaks the front of your eyes?
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Raccoon eyes
are not typically something
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that I would see
with a ground-level fall.
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After a deep dive
into Bob Saget's death,
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there are missing pieces
to the story.
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Bob Saget's death, while tragic,
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was really suspicious
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because of the injuries
that he sustained.
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It's clear
the official narrative
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doesn't tell the whole story.
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Less than 24 hours
before his death,
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Saget was doing
what he loved most...
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Performing in front
of a packed crowd
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just outside
of Jacksonville, Florida.
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When someone dies mysteriously
and unexpectedly,
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police get involved.
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After Saget's death,
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Orange County, Florida,
detectives
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question an assistant
at the concert hall
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where Saget last performed.
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She was in close contact
with him before his last show.
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He came out very energetic.
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He was very much
entertaining the crowd.
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According to the assistant,
and the audience,
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Saget seemed to be
in good spirits and health.
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After his last show,
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in what would be his final tweet
before his death,
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he posts this photo
on Instagram and Twitter
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with the caption,
"Loved tonight's show.
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I had no idea I did
a two-hour set tonight.
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I'm happily addicted again
to this shit."
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He took that last photograph.
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And he was, you know...
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He was cracking jokes,
and he was like,
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"Man, I look good.
Damn, I'm good at this!"
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So, I mean, he was...
He was okay.
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Eyewitnesses attest
that in the minutes and hours
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prior to his unexpected death,
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Saget appears to be
happy and healthy
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when he arrives back
at the Orlando Ritz
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in early hours of January 9th,
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even posing for a selfie
with the valet, Orlando Nunez,
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who spoke with police
after Saget's passing.
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I think we had a conversation
for about 10 minutes.
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Right before he left, I asked
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if I could take a picture
with him, and he let me.
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And I snapped a quick pic
with him.
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And then he went up to his room.
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The photo is presented
to the public.
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It's on Instagram.
It's on Twitter.
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It's... It's everywhere.
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And there is no visible evidence
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that Bob Saget
is, like, "shooken up"
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or, you know, maybe stumbling
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like he had just
fallen down maybe
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or gotten into a car accident.
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There's zero evidence
of that happening.
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And the valet attendant said
that he was totally normal.
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He went through the lobby,
He got on the elevator.
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And there's
surveillance video of him
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going up the elevator,
and he got off onto his floor,
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and his room was at the very end
of the floor.
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So he had to walk all the way
past all these other doors.
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He was carrying a messenger bag.
He was looking fine.
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Hotel lock interrogation reports
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suggest that Saget
used his key card
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to open the door at 2:17 a.m.
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According to surveillance video,
which has since been redacted,
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Saget puts a "do not disturb"
sign on his door
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about 10 minutes later.
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The last time anybody
set eyes on Bob Saget
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while he was alive
was when he was hanging out
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that "do not disturb" sign.
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Once that door closed,
he was never seen alive again.
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But we do hear from him
after that.
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Saget posts the selfie
from his last show to Twitter
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at 3:42 a.m.,
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about an hour and a half
after he enters his room
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and almost exactly 12 hours
before he's found dead.
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We know he was alive
at 3:42 in the morning
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because he posted the tweet
on Twitter.
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That particular tweet
was of interest to me
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because it was actually
a complicated tweet.
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And it was
grammatically correct.
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It had proper punctuation.
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So, to me, it didn't seem like
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Bob had suffered
this catastrophic injury
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prior to tweeting.
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So that indicates
that this fall and injury
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occurred after 3:42
in the morning.
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Rumors swirl about what went on
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behind the door of room 962
during that time.
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The official explanation
is blunt head trauma
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as a result
of an accidental fall.
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I'm Dr. Darria Long.
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I am a board-certified
emergency medicine physician.
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When we're talking about trauma,
of course,
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there is a huge gradiation
in severity.
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We got from the very minimum
of a concussion
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to getting fractures
of your skull
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or lacerations of the skull...
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to actually bleeding
inside the brain.
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That is one of
the most dangerous.
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And he had a variety
of fractures
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to the back of the skull,
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extending all the way around
to the front of the skull
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into the orbits, which are
the bones around your eyes,
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as well as hemorrhages
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in the inside of his skull,
around the brain.
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I was like, "Holy shit!"
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He had injuries all over.
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And then he had two black eyes?
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What kind of fall
can I have in a hotel room?
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I mean, what kind of injury
to the back of your head
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breaks the front of your eyes?
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But it's the detailed
explanation of Saget's injuries
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after the alleged fall
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that seems to generate
the most skepticism online,
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particularly the injuries
around his eyes.
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My name is
Dr. Martin Rutkowski,
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and I'm an assistant professor
of neurosurgery
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with expertise
in complex cranial surgery.
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Raccoon eyes
are not typically something
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that I would see
with a ground-level fall.
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This is something that
you see much more commonly
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with a high-velocity,
high-impact,
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severe traumatic brain injury.
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Sleuths search
for an explanation
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as to how a healthy 65-year-old
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could sustain
such a devastating injury
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from a ground-level fall
on a carpeted floor.
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-So if we think about
the skull base a little bit like a bowl of bone
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that literally cups
the bottom of the brain,
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it's typically
a very thick area of bone
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that houses and protects
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a lot of very, very important
brain structures.
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And so just due to
the deep location of that bone,
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as well as the thickness
of the bone,
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it typically takes
a very, very powerful force
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to cause a fracture
in that location.
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And there is one more apparent
discrepancy in the report
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that seems problematic.
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Saget fell and experienced
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this catastrophic blow
to the head on the carpet
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but was found on the bed.
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After a major brain injury
like this,
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I would not expect someone
to be oriented enough
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or thinking clearly enough
to be able
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to calmly get themself
into bed, pull the sheets up,
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lay their arms down
in a very organized fashion.
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To me, the very traumatic nature
of his injuries
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does not match the orderly scene
that was described
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when he was found dead.
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Fans and cyber detectives
pick apart and gather clues
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around each and every piece
of the official cause of death
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in search for answers
on how the beloved actor
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died so suddenly.
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I don't know what's going on,
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but I really want
to figure it out.
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- It doesn't make sense.
- There are certainly
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a lot of unanswered questions
about Bob Sage's death
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that we wanted to delve into.
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A standing fall
just quite doesn't reconcile
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with the facts
that are presented in this case.
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You would imagine there
would be some sort of blood,
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you know, at some point,
or hair,
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or somebody beat him up.
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On January 9, 2022,
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actor and comedian Bob Saget
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is found dead in the bed of
his upscale Orlando hotel room.
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The cause of death is declared
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to be blunt-force trauma
to the head
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as the result
of an accidental fall.
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Quickly, Internet detectives
and amateur sleuths
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flood social media and Reddit
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with questions about
the official coroner's report.
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To me, it all just seems
kind of suspicious,
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and just something
seems really wrong here.
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Because these injuries
were so severe
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and they just said,
"Well, he must have fallen
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in his hotel room,"
people are just like,
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"There's no way
that this was just a fall."
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Armchair detectives point to
something much more nefarious.
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- And is there a crime?
- Was there a mystery? Who did it?
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Who murdered Bob Saget?
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We have to consider
the possibility
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00:17:00,229 --> 00:17:02,855
that Bob was a victim
of homicide.
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The Web is abuzz with theories
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00:17:08,696 --> 00:17:12,115
that Bob Saget
was a victim of foul play.
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00:17:12,116 --> 00:17:14,325
Internet sleuths
from around the globe
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point to information released
by Orange County officials
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00:17:17,454 --> 00:17:20,248
to cast doubt
that Saget simply fell
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and zero in on the fact
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that there is not a trace
of blood found in Saget's room.
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We should have found evidence
of that clean-up
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somewhere in the room,
but we didn't.
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Experts point out that
the lack of blood is unusual,
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given the type of blow described
in the coroner's report
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and refer to the description
of Saget's head trauma
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as suspicious.
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As an investigator,
if I knew somebody
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took a fall backwards
that was this severe,
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I would expect to find
some blood and hair evidence
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somewhere in that room.
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So the fact that investigators
didn't find it
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definitely piqued my curiosity.
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Something ain't right
about this, y'all.
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What we saw with Bob Saget
was the coup.
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That's where
they have the impact,
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where he probably hit
the back of his head.
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And then there's the contrecoup,
meaning the opposite side.
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So your brain goes back
and hits,
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and then it slides forward
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and hits the front
of your skull.
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00:18:12,968 --> 00:18:16,012
That's how you get injuries
on the back and the front,
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even though they actually
only hit at the back.
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With the severity of injuries
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like those
that Mr. Saget suffered,
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I would expect to see something
much more akin
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00:18:23,854 --> 00:18:26,189
to either a fall
from multiple stories,
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00:18:26,190 --> 00:18:28,066
a high-speed
motor-vehicle accident,
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00:18:28,067 --> 00:18:31,194
a pedestrian being struck
at high speed by a vehicle,
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not someone who simply would
fall from standing height.
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You really need
an excess amount of force
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00:18:35,115 --> 00:18:36,908
to cause that initial fracture.
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00:18:36,909 --> 00:18:39,202
You need something essentially
that causes that ricochet.
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00:18:39,203 --> 00:18:41,829
So a standing fall
just quite doesn't reconcile
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00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:44,040
with the facts that
are presented in this case.
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00:18:44,041 --> 00:18:46,626
Experts and amateur sleuths
alike
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00:18:46,627 --> 00:18:51,005
pile into online forums
and discuss Saget's injuries.
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00:18:51,006 --> 00:18:55,218
They have a different theory
about what happened to Saget.
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00:18:55,219 --> 00:18:58,137
I need to talk or read
from doctors,
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00:18:58,138 --> 00:18:59,764
so I went to Reddit.
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00:18:59,765 --> 00:19:03,434
And I found a subreddit
called Emergency Medicine,
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00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:06,312
and there was
a Bob Saget thread.
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00:19:06,313 --> 00:19:10,149
I would say 90% and 95%
of the posts
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00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:12,360
in this thread were all doctors.
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And one gentleman said,
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00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:18,408
"I've worked in a level-one
trauma E.R. for 11 years.
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00:19:18,409 --> 00:19:22,036
And this was not an
unwitnessed ground-level fall.
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This man fell multiple times
in his hotel room,
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00:19:25,916 --> 00:19:29,335
which you would imagine there
would be some sort of blood,
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00:19:29,336 --> 00:19:32,630
you know, at some point,
or hair,
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00:19:32,631 --> 00:19:34,590
or somebody beat him up."
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00:19:34,591 --> 00:19:37,593
And everybody agrees
with this guy.
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It is more likely,
in my experience,
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00:19:39,596 --> 00:19:41,347
for that type of trauma to occur
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00:19:41,348 --> 00:19:43,599
when you're actually hit
in the head with an object.
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The force of an object
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directly hitting you
in the back of the head
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would definitely be consistent
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00:19:49,732 --> 00:19:51,816
with the injuries
that Bob suffered.
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00:19:51,817 --> 00:19:53,860
According to death-scene photos,
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everything in Saget's hotel room
is orderly.
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00:19:56,989 --> 00:20:00,366
It looks like he went through
his usual bedtime routine.
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00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:02,660
His phone and iPad
are plugged in
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00:20:02,661 --> 00:20:04,412
and resting on the nightstand.
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00:20:04,413 --> 00:20:06,205
There's some water
at his bedside,
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00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:09,625
and his clothes are hung up
neatly in the closet.
435
00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:14,046
There is no evidence whatsoever
of Bob's massive head trauma,
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00:20:14,047 --> 00:20:16,424
other than
the injuries themselves.
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00:20:16,425 --> 00:20:18,134
One possibility is that somebody
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00:20:18,135 --> 00:20:19,802
did make their way
into that room
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00:20:19,803 --> 00:20:22,555
and struck Bob in the back
of the head with an object
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00:20:22,556 --> 00:20:24,515
and then placed his body
in the bed
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00:20:24,516 --> 00:20:26,351
and cleaned up the scene.
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00:20:28,187 --> 00:20:30,771
To support
the possibility of murder,
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00:20:30,772 --> 00:20:33,316
sleuths point
to one important detail
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00:20:33,317 --> 00:20:35,735
in the investigative report.
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00:20:35,736 --> 00:20:39,363
While the front door was locked,
there was in fact another way
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00:20:39,364 --> 00:20:42,700
into Saget's hotel room
that fateful night.
447
00:20:42,701 --> 00:20:45,703
The adjoining room
to Bob Saget's hotel room
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00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:47,497
was unlocked.
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00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:52,752
And I was really shocked
to find that out.
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00:20:52,753 --> 00:20:54,962
Like, how could that
not be locked?
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00:20:54,963 --> 00:20:56,714
Every time you go into a hotel
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00:20:56,715 --> 00:20:58,216
and you've got an adjoining
room, you check it.
453
00:20:58,217 --> 00:21:00,218
Like... I do.
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00:21:00,219 --> 00:21:03,012
That's suspicious. That's weird.
455
00:21:03,013 --> 00:21:06,182
Veteran hotel security experts
search for an explanation
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00:21:06,183 --> 00:21:08,601
as to why that door
was unlocked.
457
00:21:08,602 --> 00:21:10,645
I have 29 years of experience
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00:21:10,646 --> 00:21:13,606
in hospitality
safety and security.
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00:21:13,607 --> 00:21:16,067
I noticed
in reviewing the report
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00:21:16,068 --> 00:21:17,818
concerning Mr. Saget's death
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00:21:17,819 --> 00:21:19,862
that the investigators
found that the door
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00:21:19,863 --> 00:21:21,697
to the adjoining room
was unsecured.
463
00:21:21,698 --> 00:21:23,324
This is unusual.
464
00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:27,203
The adjoining door should
have been locked and secured
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00:21:27,204 --> 00:21:29,205
before he entered that room.
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00:21:29,206 --> 00:21:33,668
As this new detail is released,
the comments section lights up.
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00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:35,211
According to Reddit users,
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00:21:35,212 --> 00:21:37,588
the new information
about an unlocked door
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00:21:37,589 --> 00:21:42,218
leading to Saget's room
points directly to foul play.
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00:21:42,219 --> 00:21:45,304
If anyone had gone into
that room or Mr. Saget's room,
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00:21:45,305 --> 00:21:47,098
the interrogation of the lock
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00:21:47,099 --> 00:21:49,350
would have indicated
which key had been used,
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00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:51,227
and we would know who
that key had been issued to.
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00:21:51,228 --> 00:21:52,895
And in reviewing the report
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00:21:52,896 --> 00:21:56,649
concerning the investigation
into Mr. Saget's death,
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00:21:56,650 --> 00:21:59,360
I was left with the impression
that the locks were interrogated
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00:21:59,361 --> 00:22:00,736
and that it was confirmed
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00:22:00,737 --> 00:22:04,073
that no one
had gone into that room.
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00:22:04,074 --> 00:22:07,702
But as the idea of a homicide
gains traction online,
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00:22:07,703 --> 00:22:09,870
there are questions
about alternative ways
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00:22:09,871 --> 00:22:12,748
to gain access
to the room next door.
482
00:22:12,749 --> 00:22:15,334
In the comments section
of this YouTube video,
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00:22:15,335 --> 00:22:18,212
users point to a hotel employee.
484
00:22:18,213 --> 00:22:20,464
Now, the room next door
was not rented
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00:22:20,465 --> 00:22:23,968
officially to anybody
the same night that Bob died,
486
00:22:23,969 --> 00:22:26,178
but that doesn't mean
that somebody didn't find a way
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00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:28,139
to get access to that room
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00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:32,768
and then enter through the door
that joined the two rooms.
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00:22:32,769 --> 00:22:35,730
Professionally, Bob Saget
didn't have enemies.
490
00:22:35,731 --> 00:22:37,815
He didn't have people
who wanted him gone.
491
00:22:37,816 --> 00:22:40,109
He had people
who were in his corner,
492
00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:42,153
who loved him,
who respected him,
493
00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:45,781
and wanted to be around him.
494
00:22:45,782 --> 00:22:47,867
Online, it's a different story.
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00:22:47,868 --> 00:22:49,660
In the days following his death,
496
00:22:49,661 --> 00:22:53,456
the narrative surrounding the
real Bob Saget begins to change.
497
00:22:53,457 --> 00:22:55,458
In looking for answers
about his death,
498
00:22:55,459 --> 00:22:58,127
armchair detectives
find surprising clips
499
00:22:58,128 --> 00:23:00,671
from Saget's stand-up
and media appearances
500
00:23:00,672 --> 00:23:03,382
that call his true character
into question.
501
00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:05,051
It looked like a porn doll.
502
00:23:05,052 --> 00:23:08,012
Stories about Saget's raunchy
and inappropriate work
503
00:23:08,013 --> 00:23:11,098
outside the sitcom world
start to surface,
504
00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:13,768
shocking many longtime fans
who only knew
505
00:23:13,769 --> 00:23:16,687
the cuddly, PG-rated
"Full House" character.
506
00:23:16,688 --> 00:23:18,606
There's something sneaky
going on here.
507
00:23:18,607 --> 00:23:21,609
TikTok users point to
Saget's inappropriate humor
508
00:23:21,610 --> 00:23:23,110
as a possible motive,
509
00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,529
posting various clips
of his raunchy jokes,
510
00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:28,157
suggesting that perhaps
the real Saget
511
00:23:28,158 --> 00:23:30,951
was not the friendly
dad character on "Full House,"
512
00:23:30,952 --> 00:23:35,164
but instead someone much darker.
513
00:23:35,165 --> 00:23:37,416
Bob Saget in real life
would do things like
514
00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:41,420
sit down for one of
the most offensive jokes ever,
515
00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:43,255
you know, said out loud.
516
00:23:43,256 --> 00:23:46,509
The joke talks a little bit
about pedophilia.
517
00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:48,511
That was, like,
the initial spark
518
00:23:48,512 --> 00:23:51,056
to some of the rumors
about Bob Saget.
519
00:24:00,524 --> 00:24:03,442
When Bob Saget dies
suddenly and mysteriously
520
00:24:03,443 --> 00:24:07,279
in his Orlando, Florida,
hotel room in early 2022,
521
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,407
fans flood social media
522
00:24:09,408 --> 00:24:12,159
with condolences, tributes,
and memorials.
523
00:24:15,038 --> 00:24:17,456
But it's not all love
for the comedian.
524
00:24:17,457 --> 00:24:21,752
Some TikTokers take to the app
to question Saget's character.
525
00:24:21,753 --> 00:24:23,546
I was on good behavior,
526
00:24:23,547 --> 00:24:27,883
but sometimes I did
some inappropriate, uh, acts.
527
00:24:27,884 --> 00:24:30,094
Bob Saget on TV was this,
528
00:24:30,095 --> 00:24:31,721
you know, everyday dad
529
00:24:31,722 --> 00:24:33,597
who everyone could relate to.
530
00:24:33,598 --> 00:24:36,225
But Bob Saget in real life
would do things like sit down
531
00:24:36,226 --> 00:24:39,145
for a documentary about the joke
"The Aristocrats,"
532
00:24:39,146 --> 00:24:42,481
one of the most offensive jokes
533
00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:44,442
ever, you know, said out loud...
534
00:24:44,443 --> 00:24:47,570
where he tells
a story about a dad
535
00:24:47,571 --> 00:24:49,947
who, you know, basically has sex
with his whole family.
536
00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:54,660
I mean, it is totally
just so offensive.
537
00:24:54,661 --> 00:24:56,203
The duality of Bob Saget
538
00:24:56,204 --> 00:24:58,122
between, like,
the all-American dad
539
00:24:58,123 --> 00:25:01,542
with, like, "Full House" and
"America's Funniest Home Videos"
540
00:25:01,543 --> 00:25:04,378
and then, like, all the roasts
that he did
541
00:25:04,379 --> 00:25:06,964
and his comedy shows.
542
00:25:06,965 --> 00:25:08,841
I go to a lot
of the comedy shows,
543
00:25:08,842 --> 00:25:10,968
and the first time
I saw Bob Saget live
544
00:25:10,969 --> 00:25:14,722
I was stunned
at how vulgar this dude was.
545
00:25:14,723 --> 00:25:16,515
In various message boards,
546
00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:19,393
users point to Saget's
dirty sense of humor
547
00:25:19,394 --> 00:25:23,397
and tie it to a wild theory
about how he died.
548
00:25:23,398 --> 00:25:25,608
So I'm looking into
some of the theories
549
00:25:25,609 --> 00:25:28,611
that are percolating online
about Bob Saget's death.
550
00:25:28,612 --> 00:25:33,115
In fact, in popular QAnon sites
like 4chan and 8chan,
551
00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:35,993
a wild theory about
who could have killed Saget
552
00:25:35,994 --> 00:25:38,788
begins to circulate.
553
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:42,583
QAnon originated
on the image board 4chan
554
00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:44,752
in October of 2017.
555
00:25:44,753 --> 00:25:48,255
- I will die for my country!
- And my family and my friends!
556
00:25:48,256 --> 00:25:51,717
QAnon is a cult-like
conspiracy movement
557
00:25:51,718 --> 00:25:55,054
that holds that a secret
military intelligence team
558
00:25:55,055 --> 00:25:57,848
called "Q" was working
hand-in-hand
559
00:25:57,849 --> 00:26:00,643
with President Trump
to leak cryptic clues
560
00:26:00,644 --> 00:26:04,605
to an upcoming violent purge
of the Deep State.
561
00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:06,690
The core beliefs are
562
00:26:06,691 --> 00:26:09,318
distrust of experts,
distrust of the media,
563
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,321
everybody's lying to you,
everybody's out to get you.
564
00:26:12,322 --> 00:26:15,324
They believe he was murdered
by an angry father
565
00:26:15,325 --> 00:26:19,078
because this hypothetical father
mistakenly believed
566
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,664
Saget was involved
with his minor child.
567
00:26:21,665 --> 00:26:25,543
While there is no public legal
or factual basis for this...
568
00:26:25,544 --> 00:26:27,670
And it might seem outlandish...
569
00:26:27,671 --> 00:26:31,382
In the mind of the online world,
it has legs.
570
00:26:31,383 --> 00:26:34,468
The conspiracy theory
that Bob Saget was murdered
571
00:26:34,469 --> 00:26:36,262
by some unknown force
572
00:26:36,263 --> 00:26:38,055
because he had some kind
of involvement
573
00:26:38,056 --> 00:26:40,099
with a minor
or with trafficking.
574
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:42,434
That's another one of those
rumors that we've started to see
575
00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:44,562
with almost every
celebrity death.
576
00:26:44,563 --> 00:26:45,980
It's hard to debunk somebody
577
00:26:45,981 --> 00:26:47,565
not being involved in something.
578
00:26:47,566 --> 00:26:49,358
But we have to look
at the evidence.
579
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,528
Is any legitimate allegation
against him?
580
00:26:52,529 --> 00:26:56,031
Online, Saget's crime
is being a dirty comedian.
581
00:26:56,032 --> 00:26:58,909
Chat-room regulars cling
to his "Aristocrats" joke.
582
00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:01,495
While he didn't write it,
it's widely believed to be
583
00:27:01,496 --> 00:27:03,789
the most filthy joke ever told.
584
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:05,958
The father's, like,
ripping off his kid's.
585
00:27:05,959 --> 00:27:08,878
And he takes his wife's,
throws it off of her.
586
00:27:08,879 --> 00:27:10,462
And he rips off her.
587
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,173
Takes some of her...
588
00:27:12,174 --> 00:27:14,008
And there's a little bit
of dripping down.
589
00:27:14,009 --> 00:27:15,885
If you don't know,
the joke talks a little bit
590
00:27:15,886 --> 00:27:17,887
about pedophilia.
591
00:27:17,888 --> 00:27:19,847
That was, like,
the initial spark
592
00:27:19,848 --> 00:27:22,349
to some of the rumors about
Bob Saget when he died.
593
00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:24,393
They brought...
People on the Internet
594
00:27:24,394 --> 00:27:26,770
reference that joke
when talking about
595
00:27:26,771 --> 00:27:29,982
this whole, like,
"angry father" rumor.
596
00:27:29,983 --> 00:27:34,570
Bob Saget, who raped
and killed a girl in 1990!
597
00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:36,238
They basically dig up
598
00:27:36,239 --> 00:27:38,824
some old roasts
that he's been a part of,
599
00:27:38,825 --> 00:27:40,618
some old stand-up bits.
600
00:27:40,619 --> 00:27:43,662
And there's a whole bunch of
jokes in there about pedophilia.
601
00:27:43,663 --> 00:27:46,874
And QAnon decides that
all of those jokes are real-life
602
00:27:46,875 --> 00:27:49,376
and that Bob Saget himself
was a pedophile.
603
00:27:49,377 --> 00:27:51,295
After his death,
it's easy to look
604
00:27:51,296 --> 00:27:53,047
at some of the jokes he told,
605
00:27:53,048 --> 00:27:54,715
some of the, you know,
riffs he went on
606
00:27:54,716 --> 00:27:57,885
and sort of look at that...
"Oh, he's confessing."
607
00:27:57,886 --> 00:27:59,803
According to the claims
of 4chan,
608
00:27:59,804 --> 00:28:02,222
there is actual evidence
of Saget's involvement
609
00:28:02,223 --> 00:28:05,434
in the darkest of
underground criminal activities.
610
00:28:05,435 --> 00:28:08,896
Floating all over TikTok
in the weeks after Saget's death
611
00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:10,856
are photos of what is purported
612
00:28:10,857 --> 00:28:13,734
to be flight logs
of the private jet
613
00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:17,780
belonging to known child
sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
614
00:28:17,781 --> 00:28:20,783
Among the passengers listed
is Bob Saget.
615
00:28:20,784 --> 00:28:22,576
Anyone that's ever followed
anything
616
00:28:22,577 --> 00:28:25,454
that knows about
the child trafficking?
617
00:28:25,455 --> 00:28:26,872
Yeah. This guy.
618
00:28:26,873 --> 00:28:29,625
The photos quickly go viral.
619
00:28:29,626 --> 00:28:32,127
Those flight manifests
spread out of the depths
620
00:28:32,128 --> 00:28:33,796
of obscure chat rooms
621
00:28:33,797 --> 00:28:36,340
and into social media.
622
00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:38,968
But there is one problem
with the logs.
623
00:28:38,969 --> 00:28:40,678
They aren't real.
624
00:28:40,679 --> 00:28:42,721
I don't know where this idea
625
00:28:42,722 --> 00:28:45,599
of falsified
Jeffrey Epstein flight logs
626
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,143
having Bob Saget's name
came from.
627
00:28:48,144 --> 00:28:51,063
Probably from
some troll somewhere.
628
00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:53,816
Could be the US, could be
Europe, could be anywhere.
629
00:28:53,817 --> 00:28:56,527
The most important thing is that
we actually have the flight logs
630
00:28:56,528 --> 00:28:58,028
for Jeffrey Epstein's planes.
631
00:28:58,029 --> 00:28:59,655
Bob Saget is not on them.
632
00:28:59,656 --> 00:29:01,657
These flight logs are all faked,
633
00:29:01,658 --> 00:29:04,410
and we've known they've been
faked for quite some time.
634
00:29:04,411 --> 00:29:08,414
But these ideas are so common,
so accepted on these forums
635
00:29:08,415 --> 00:29:10,207
that people
don't even bat their eyes
636
00:29:10,208 --> 00:29:11,917
when this sort of thing is said.
637
00:29:11,918 --> 00:29:13,585
Bob Saget was not a pedophile.
638
00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:16,547
Bob Saget was a family man
and a regular guy
639
00:29:16,548 --> 00:29:19,425
who just liked making
some off-color jokes.
640
00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:24,013
This is the perfect example
of how theories run wild online.
641
00:29:24,014 --> 00:29:26,682
Users don't believe
the official cause of death,
642
00:29:26,683 --> 00:29:29,560
that Saget died
of blunt-force head trauma
643
00:29:29,561 --> 00:29:31,353
due to a ground-level fall.
644
00:29:31,354 --> 00:29:33,856
And when there are holes
in the real story,
645
00:29:33,857 --> 00:29:36,692
anything goes online.
646
00:29:36,693 --> 00:29:39,153
Internet sleuths come
from different backgrounds
647
00:29:39,154 --> 00:29:42,364
and all bring a different
point of view to the Web.
648
00:29:42,365 --> 00:29:45,367
Some take their investigations
very seriously
649
00:29:45,368 --> 00:29:47,870
and are motivated
by the truth...
650
00:29:47,871 --> 00:29:49,663
When police investigate a crime,
651
00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:51,790
they have to go forward
knowing that at some point
652
00:29:51,791 --> 00:29:54,168
they're gonna have to
prove those allegations in court, right?
653
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:56,336
So if you make an allegation
against somebody,
654
00:29:56,337 --> 00:29:58,047
you better be pretty damn sure
655
00:29:58,048 --> 00:30:00,049
that you can back it up
with actual evidence.
656
00:30:00,050 --> 00:30:02,885
Armchair sleuths don't have
that same obligation.
657
00:30:02,886 --> 00:30:04,887
...while others
are less credible
658
00:30:04,888 --> 00:30:07,848
and based in pure conjecture
and faulty information.
659
00:30:07,849 --> 00:30:10,642
Online investigators have to
start taking responsibility
660
00:30:10,643 --> 00:30:12,478
for the allegations they make,
661
00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:14,938
and they have to be pretty damn
sure that the allegations
662
00:30:14,939 --> 00:30:18,734
they're making are backed up
by fact and not just guesswork.
663
00:30:22,614 --> 00:30:25,699
While, the false theory of
murder related to this fake ring
664
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,535
is indeed as absurd
as it sounds,
665
00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:31,038
there is one theory
floating around online
666
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,915
that has gained
even more traction.
667
00:30:32,916 --> 00:30:35,250
And while it has nothing
to do with murder,
668
00:30:35,251 --> 00:30:38,087
this theory
has strong vocal backers
669
00:30:38,088 --> 00:30:40,380
who are certain
that it can explain
670
00:30:40,381 --> 00:30:44,009
how and why Bob Saget died.
671
00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:45,511
"Killed Bob Saget."
672
00:30:45,512 --> 00:30:48,555
I mean, that has like
40,000 eyeballs on it.
673
00:30:48,556 --> 00:30:50,891
- You know, was it deadly?
- Was it dangerous?
674
00:30:50,892 --> 00:30:53,268
So there was certainly
a lot of thought
675
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:56,064
that maybe that's
what had happened here.
676
00:31:04,823 --> 00:31:06,490
The news of Bob Saget's death
677
00:31:06,491 --> 00:31:09,660
sends shockwaves
around the world.
678
00:31:09,661 --> 00:31:14,206
One minute, Saget appears happy,
healthy, and hilarious on stage.
679
00:31:14,207 --> 00:31:19,044
The next, he's found dead
in his hotel bed.
680
00:31:19,045 --> 00:31:21,130
The official explanation
of his death
681
00:31:21,131 --> 00:31:23,215
is blunt-force trauma
to the head.
682
00:31:23,216 --> 00:31:26,176
The Internet is abuzz
with alternate theories
683
00:31:26,177 --> 00:31:28,011
on how Saget died.
684
00:31:28,012 --> 00:31:30,139
I see a trauma,
and I ask myself two questions.
685
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:33,392
One is, what are the injuries
due to their fall...
686
00:31:33,393 --> 00:31:36,728
and then what caused their fall?
687
00:31:36,729 --> 00:31:39,148
There is one piece of
Saget's medical history
688
00:31:39,149 --> 00:31:40,858
that he was very vocal about
689
00:31:40,859 --> 00:31:43,485
that occurred in the days
leading up to his death.
690
00:31:43,486 --> 00:31:45,988
I try not to preach,
you know, but...
691
00:31:45,989 --> 00:31:47,197
I got my booster shot.
692
00:31:47,198 --> 00:31:49,616
I'm 65. So I got it yesterday,
693
00:31:49,617 --> 00:31:51,702
I'm looking into
some of the theories
694
00:31:51,703 --> 00:31:54,913
that are percolating online
about Bob Saget's death.
695
00:31:54,914 --> 00:31:57,833
It didn't take long for a bunch
of these accounts to decide
696
00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:01,253
that it was the vaccine
that was the problem.
697
00:32:01,254 --> 00:32:03,255
"The shot killed Bob Saget."
698
00:32:03,256 --> 00:32:08,135
I mean, that has like
40,000 eyeballs on it.
699
00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:10,053
I went to the pharmacy
the other day.
700
00:32:10,054 --> 00:32:12,181
I got a booster shot.
701
00:32:12,182 --> 00:32:15,058
Saget's public announcement
about his vaccine
702
00:32:15,059 --> 00:32:16,894
puts certain corners
of the Internet
703
00:32:16,895 --> 00:32:19,480
into overdrive after his death.
704
00:32:19,481 --> 00:32:23,192
There is a school of thought
that the COVID vaccine
705
00:32:23,193 --> 00:32:25,527
may have contributed
to Bob's death.
706
00:32:25,528 --> 00:32:28,739
I saw that take off because
Saget had been very vocal
707
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:30,782
in talking about
getting the booster.
708
00:32:30,783 --> 00:32:34,453
There are still some unknowns
about the COVID-19 vaccine,
709
00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:39,374
and Bob Saget got his booster
shot three weeks before he died.
710
00:32:39,375 --> 00:32:42,920
Saget's official cause of death
is blunt-force head trauma,
711
00:32:42,921 --> 00:32:45,964
but he's found laying
peacefully in bed
712
00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:49,760
and there is no blood found
anywhere in his hotel room.
713
00:32:49,761 --> 00:32:51,887
The suspicious nature
of his death
714
00:32:51,888 --> 00:32:54,765
has users online
pointing to something else...
715
00:32:54,766 --> 00:32:56,433
The COVID booster shot.
716
00:32:56,434 --> 00:32:59,019
At the time of his death,
we were in the peak
717
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:02,189
of all these conspiracies
about the COVID vaccine.
718
00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:04,483
You know, was it deadly?
Was it dangerous?
719
00:33:04,484 --> 00:33:06,818
So there was certainly
a lot of thought
720
00:33:06,819 --> 00:33:09,446
that maybe that's what
had happened here.
721
00:33:09,447 --> 00:33:11,114
It is hypothetically possible
722
00:33:11,115 --> 00:33:13,742
the COVID-19 vaccine
could have hit Bob Saget
723
00:33:13,743 --> 00:33:15,744
in a particular
and dangerous way
724
00:33:15,745 --> 00:33:18,163
that could have contributed
to his death,
725
00:33:18,164 --> 00:33:19,665
so I want to get to the bottom
726
00:33:19,666 --> 00:33:21,208
of whether or not
this is possible.
727
00:33:21,209 --> 00:33:23,126
The booster theory gains steam
728
00:33:23,127 --> 00:33:26,797
when YouTuber Josh Pray
shares a video on Facebook.
729
00:33:26,798 --> 00:33:29,549
Bob Saget...
730
00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:33,720
has passed away in 2022.
731
00:33:33,721 --> 00:33:35,597
Like most Facebook posts,
732
00:33:35,598 --> 00:33:38,809
the action is in the comments
section with dozens of comments
733
00:33:38,810 --> 00:33:42,646
flying around taking
either side of the debate.
734
00:33:42,647 --> 00:33:44,898
But nothing makes a theory
go more viral
735
00:33:44,899 --> 00:33:46,733
than a celebrity's endorsement.
736
00:33:46,734 --> 00:33:49,945
And on Facebook, when legendary
pro wrestler and entertainer
737
00:33:49,946 --> 00:33:51,863
Hulk Hogan gets involved,
738
00:33:51,864 --> 00:33:55,575
the "deadly vaccine shot" theory
gets its own boost,
739
00:33:55,576 --> 00:33:58,120
pointing
at the so-called vaccine "jab"
740
00:33:58,121 --> 00:34:01,331
as the culprit
in not only Saget's death,
741
00:34:01,332 --> 00:34:04,501
but also the recent deaths
of TV star Betty White
742
00:34:04,502 --> 00:34:08,547
and legendary film actor
Sidney Poitier.
743
00:34:08,548 --> 00:34:11,675
Within a week of
Bob Saget's death,
744
00:34:11,676 --> 00:34:13,510
Hulk Hogan's on Facebook
writing,
745
00:34:13,511 --> 00:34:16,263
"100%. Betty and Sidney
were also jabbed.
746
00:34:16,264 --> 00:34:19,182
And they're dropping like flies.
But they'll never say it."
747
00:34:19,183 --> 00:34:21,226
I guess "they"
is the government.
748
00:34:21,227 --> 00:34:23,812
And apparently later on
had thought better of it
749
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:26,148
and decided to edit the post.
750
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:29,276
Well, when you edit something
that you've posted on Facebook,
751
00:34:29,277 --> 00:34:31,570
there's an edit history
so that you can see
752
00:34:31,571 --> 00:34:34,031
all the edits
somebody has made to their post.
753
00:34:34,032 --> 00:34:37,701
So when you review the edit
history for Hulk Hogan's reply,
754
00:34:37,702 --> 00:34:40,370
you can see what
he posted initially was,
755
00:34:40,371 --> 00:34:42,914
"Yeah, Bob Saget died
from booster,"
756
00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:46,793
and you can see
what he edited it to.
757
00:34:46,794 --> 00:34:49,755
What he should have done
was delete it
758
00:34:49,756 --> 00:34:52,215
so there would have been
no evidence at all.
759
00:34:52,216 --> 00:34:53,800
But it's too late.
760
00:34:53,801 --> 00:34:57,137
Nothing is ever permanently
deleted on the Internet.
761
00:34:57,138 --> 00:34:59,723
Once Hogan is involved,
the theory makes its way
762
00:34:59,724 --> 00:35:02,225
out of the obscure corners
of the Internet
763
00:35:02,226 --> 00:35:04,686
and into
the public consciousness.
764
00:35:04,687 --> 00:35:07,522
This is the sort of thing
that leads people to conclude
765
00:35:07,523 --> 00:35:09,316
that there is
a conspiracy afoot.
766
00:35:09,317 --> 00:35:13,445
A lot of people respect and know
Hulk Hogan for whatever reason
767
00:35:13,446 --> 00:35:16,406
and will listen to what he says
on social media.
768
00:35:16,407 --> 00:35:18,825
This is the power of celebrity.
769
00:35:18,826 --> 00:35:22,579
Bob Saget dies in the middle
of COVID's big omicron wave,
770
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:25,290
and vaccines
are dividing America.
771
00:35:25,291 --> 00:35:27,876
Each side is looking for fuel
for their argument,
772
00:35:27,877 --> 00:35:31,421
and one seemingly small comment
from a celebrity takes hold.
773
00:35:31,422 --> 00:35:34,925
For those in the anti-vax camp,
it's presented as fact
774
00:35:34,926 --> 00:35:37,928
in the conversation
around vaccine safety.
775
00:35:37,929 --> 00:35:40,555
QAnon theories end up
in the mainstream media
776
00:35:40,556 --> 00:35:42,641
through a number
of different ways.
777
00:35:42,642 --> 00:35:45,143
You'll see a lot of them
start to bubble up
778
00:35:45,144 --> 00:35:47,062
in these very niche areas,
779
00:35:47,063 --> 00:35:49,856
places like 8chan,
places like Telegram,
780
00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:52,150
places where you don't get
a lot of "normies"
781
00:35:52,151 --> 00:35:54,236
hanging around
looking for things.
782
00:35:54,237 --> 00:35:55,946
But the most interesting ones,
783
00:35:55,947 --> 00:35:58,740
the ones that mesh the best
with current events,
784
00:35:58,741 --> 00:36:00,242
they will start to bubble up
785
00:36:00,243 --> 00:36:03,036
and they'll go to viral threads
on Twitter,
786
00:36:03,037 --> 00:36:06,540
viral threads on Reddit,
on places like r/conspiracy,
787
00:36:06,541 --> 00:36:08,792
which has hundreds
of thousands of subscribers.
788
00:36:08,793 --> 00:36:10,168
Based on the facts presented
789
00:36:10,169 --> 00:36:12,546
by experienced
medical professionals,
790
00:36:12,547 --> 00:36:15,298
it's unlikely the booster
killed Bob Saget.
791
00:36:15,299 --> 00:36:19,052
But it turns out Saget
wasn't the picture of health
792
00:36:19,053 --> 00:36:21,389
like his fans believed.
793
00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:31,565
Why does it look like he's dead?
794
00:36:31,566 --> 00:36:35,360
January 9, 2022,
around 4:00 p.m.,
795
00:36:35,361 --> 00:36:37,404
Bob Saget
is found laying peacefully
796
00:36:37,405 --> 00:36:38,864
in his hotel bed
797
00:36:38,865 --> 00:36:41,741
at the Ritz-Carlton,
Grande Lakes, Orlando.
798
00:36:41,742 --> 00:36:44,161
He's pronounced dead
at the scene.
799
00:36:44,162 --> 00:36:47,164
The official cause of death
is blunt-force head trauma.
800
00:36:47,165 --> 00:36:49,583
And while wild theories
are rampant online
801
00:36:49,584 --> 00:36:51,877
about what really happened
to Saget,
802
00:36:51,878 --> 00:36:54,463
a main theme in chat rooms
and social media
803
00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:56,965
was that this was
a freak accident.
804
00:36:56,966 --> 00:37:00,177
Cyber sleuths point to
a lethal mix of health issues,
805
00:37:00,178 --> 00:37:04,723
exhaustion, and being in the
wrong place at the wrong time.
806
00:37:04,724 --> 00:37:07,726
It appears Saget is the picture
of health the night before,
807
00:37:07,727 --> 00:37:10,103
performing in the
Jacksonville, Florida, area
808
00:37:10,104 --> 00:37:13,190
on his "I Don't Do Negative"
comedy tour.
809
00:37:13,191 --> 00:37:16,526
- He was happy.
- And he gave a knockout show.
810
00:37:16,527 --> 00:37:20,155
Everybody said he was hilarious.
He was upbeat. He was funny.
811
00:37:20,156 --> 00:37:22,616
- He seemed okay.
- He really did.
812
00:37:22,617 --> 00:37:24,826
And it was very surprising
the next day.
813
00:37:24,827 --> 00:37:28,705
He wasn't sweaty. He didn't
miss a beat. He didn't stutter.
814
00:37:28,706 --> 00:37:30,457
But according to an eyewitness,
815
00:37:30,458 --> 00:37:33,877
Saget was battling something
behind the scenes.
816
00:37:33,878 --> 00:37:35,754
I did hear him say,
"I don't feel good,
817
00:37:35,755 --> 00:37:37,756
but I'm ready to do the show."
818
00:37:37,757 --> 00:37:40,425
A runner at the
Ponte Vedra Concert Hall,
819
00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:42,761
where Saget performed
his last show,
820
00:37:42,762 --> 00:37:46,973
had insider access to Saget
and to his dressing room.
821
00:37:46,974 --> 00:37:49,184
His hearing had been off.
822
00:37:49,185 --> 00:37:53,230
He was asking the sound guys
to turn everything up.
823
00:37:53,231 --> 00:37:57,150
He had been sick
the night before.
824
00:37:57,151 --> 00:38:01,112
He said that he had
a sore throat,
825
00:38:01,113 --> 00:38:03,907
that he was happy
that he had lozenges.
826
00:38:03,908 --> 00:38:06,076
Trouble hearing, a sore throat.
827
00:38:06,077 --> 00:38:08,870
It might not sound like
a deadly combination.
828
00:38:08,871 --> 00:38:10,539
But in the autopsy report,
829
00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:12,833
listed below
all the head injuries,
830
00:38:12,834 --> 00:38:16,419
there is a detail
that could provide some answers.
831
00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:19,756
Now, we know that he had COVID
when he passed away.
832
00:38:19,757 --> 00:38:25,262
So not only was he recovering
from COVID, he had COVID.
833
00:38:25,263 --> 00:38:29,099
In December of 2021,
the month before he died,
834
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:32,310
Saget shared he recently
battled the virus.
835
00:38:32,311 --> 00:38:35,939
We know that at some point
before early January,
836
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:37,440
he also catches COVID,
837
00:38:37,441 --> 00:38:39,109
which is not
terribly surprising.
838
00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:41,069
This was during the omicron wave
839
00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:45,156
where it felt like
everybody got COVID-19.
840
00:38:45,157 --> 00:38:48,702
According to the assistant,
weeks after his positive test,
841
00:38:48,703 --> 00:38:51,162
he was still suffering
from symptoms.
842
00:38:51,163 --> 00:38:54,457
He stated himself
that he said that he had
843
00:38:54,458 --> 00:38:57,335
something like...
He said, like, long-term COVID.
844
00:38:57,336 --> 00:39:01,673
It was taking him a long time
for his body to get over it.
845
00:39:01,674 --> 00:39:03,508
One of the potential symptoms
of long COVID
846
00:39:03,509 --> 00:39:05,927
can also include
a vertigo or imbalance.
847
00:39:05,928 --> 00:39:07,637
What is vertigo?
Vertigo means that
848
00:39:07,638 --> 00:39:10,765
your body's balance systems
are off.
849
00:39:10,766 --> 00:39:13,184
Saget was in his hotel room
alone.
850
00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:16,479
After combing through evidence,
online investigators believe
851
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,024
he was dizzy
and in a dangerous place.
852
00:39:19,025 --> 00:39:21,026
There was a towel
853
00:39:21,027 --> 00:39:25,030
that appeared to be wet and used
inside the bathtub.
854
00:39:25,031 --> 00:39:27,574
In theory, I would think
after being on stage
855
00:39:27,575 --> 00:39:30,243
under hot lights, sweating,
one of the first things he would
856
00:39:30,244 --> 00:39:32,287
want to do is hop in the shower.
857
00:39:32,288 --> 00:39:35,832
If he had any sort of
equilibrium problems
858
00:39:35,833 --> 00:39:37,334
because of the COVID
859
00:39:37,335 --> 00:39:40,003
and fell very easily
in the shower...
860
00:39:40,004 --> 00:39:42,714
There are hundreds of comments
on Reddit message boards
861
00:39:42,715 --> 00:39:46,801
with users trying to figure out
where exactly Saget fell.
862
00:39:46,802 --> 00:39:49,346
If you look at the photos
from the hotel room,
863
00:39:49,347 --> 00:39:53,767
there's about a foot of space
on one side of the visible door
864
00:39:53,768 --> 00:39:55,685
that the bathmat doesn't cover.
865
00:39:55,686 --> 00:39:58,605
And that floor looks pretty
slippery. It looks like marble.
866
00:39:58,606 --> 00:40:00,398
You're gonna fall so quick
867
00:40:00,399 --> 00:40:02,442
and hit your head
on that lip of that shower?
868
00:40:02,443 --> 00:40:04,235
I really think
that's what happened.
869
00:40:04,236 --> 00:40:08,073
Investigators think that Bob
may have fallen in the bathroom,
870
00:40:08,074 --> 00:40:12,327
but there was no blood or
evidence anywhere to show that.
871
00:40:12,328 --> 00:40:14,871
To figure out
how and where Saget fell,
872
00:40:14,872 --> 00:40:17,374
cyber sleuths
dig into body mechanics.
873
00:40:17,375 --> 00:40:21,086
Saget didn't sustain injuries
anywhere else on his body.
874
00:40:21,087 --> 00:40:23,546
It appears as though his head
got the brunt of it,
875
00:40:23,547 --> 00:40:25,674
resulting in the deadly injury.
876
00:40:25,675 --> 00:40:27,258
The linear fracture
877
00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:31,304
is what the doctors
on Reddit were saying is...
878
00:40:31,305 --> 00:40:35,100
It's hard to get that
kind of fracture by just falling
879
00:40:35,101 --> 00:40:37,227
because your shoulders
and your back...
880
00:40:37,228 --> 00:40:39,145
At the angle that it's at...
881
00:40:39,146 --> 00:40:41,439
It's hard to hit the ground.
882
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,692
In my experience
883
00:40:43,693 --> 00:40:46,444
as an investigator
and studying falls,
884
00:40:46,445 --> 00:40:49,322
the most common way to fall
backwards with no warning
885
00:40:49,323 --> 00:40:52,284
and strike your head
is because you've slipped.
886
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:56,538
A viral Reddit thread
887
00:40:56,539 --> 00:40:59,290
points to Saget's combination
of health issues
888
00:40:59,291 --> 00:41:01,751
as the cause
for his sudden collapse.
889
00:41:01,752 --> 00:41:05,922
Another reason. Why would
a 65-year-old male have syncope?
890
00:41:05,923 --> 00:41:09,968
Well, heart disease,
heart attack, heart arrhythmia.
891
00:41:09,969 --> 00:41:13,346
We know from the autopsy
that Bob Saget did have signs
892
00:41:13,347 --> 00:41:15,056
of heart disease
and hypertension
893
00:41:15,057 --> 00:41:17,892
and atherosclerosis,
which means blockage
894
00:41:17,893 --> 00:41:20,270
of some of the vessels
in his heart.
895
00:41:20,271 --> 00:41:23,815
That would not always
necessarily show up in the autopsy.
896
00:41:23,816 --> 00:41:27,902
Reddit users zero in on
Saget's prescription medications
897
00:41:27,903 --> 00:41:30,321
which are listed in the autopsy.
898
00:41:30,322 --> 00:41:33,450
He was taking Klonopin
and trazodone, both of which...
899
00:41:33,451 --> 00:41:35,285
Trazodone is a sleep medication.
900
00:41:35,286 --> 00:41:39,456
And Klonopin is for anxiety
and a number of other things
901
00:41:39,457 --> 00:41:41,624
Those two medications together
902
00:41:41,625 --> 00:41:43,752
can lower your blood pressure
a little bit
903
00:41:43,753 --> 00:41:45,628
and also make you
a little bit sleepier.
904
00:41:45,629 --> 00:41:48,298
If you combine that
with maybe a heart incident
905
00:41:48,299 --> 00:41:50,425
that just happened
just for a second,
906
00:41:50,426 --> 00:41:53,136
it's just enough
to cause somebody
907
00:41:53,137 --> 00:41:55,555
to lose consciousness and fall.
908
00:41:55,556 --> 00:41:57,932
Before the official
cause of death is released,
909
00:41:57,933 --> 00:42:01,561
Reddit users believe Saget died
of a heart attack or stroke
910
00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:03,980
because he was found
lying in bed.
911
00:42:03,981 --> 00:42:05,648
But given the official cause,
912
00:42:05,649 --> 00:42:08,943
there are many questions
about how he put himself to bed
913
00:42:08,944 --> 00:42:11,863
after suffering
such a catastrophic blow.
914
00:42:11,864 --> 00:42:14,866
Something that really,
really struck me as peculiar
915
00:42:14,867 --> 00:42:17,327
when I first read
about this case
916
00:42:17,328 --> 00:42:19,996
is that I couldn't fathom
how a human being
917
00:42:19,997 --> 00:42:22,290
could take such a severe blow
to the head,
918
00:42:22,291 --> 00:42:25,460
but yet ostensibly
get up off the floor,
919
00:42:25,461 --> 00:42:28,546
get dressed to some degree,
and put themselves to bed.
920
00:42:28,547 --> 00:42:32,092
What we can see
after a trauma like this,
921
00:42:32,093 --> 00:42:33,635
especially after
a brain hemorrhage,
922
00:42:33,636 --> 00:42:34,886
bleeding into the brain,
923
00:42:34,887 --> 00:42:37,096
is what's called
a lucid interval.
924
00:42:37,097 --> 00:42:38,932
That bleed keeps growing,
925
00:42:38,933 --> 00:42:41,309
keeps compressing more and more
and more against the brain.
926
00:42:41,310 --> 00:42:42,977
And as it does that,
927
00:42:42,978 --> 00:42:45,355
that's when the person
starts to lose consciousness.
928
00:42:45,356 --> 00:42:47,482
And if you don't intervene,
that's when they can die.
929
00:42:47,483 --> 00:42:51,820
He may have just thought,
"It's not that severe.
930
00:42:51,821 --> 00:42:54,072
I got to get up in the morning
and catch my flight."
931
00:42:54,073 --> 00:42:56,616
And then passed away
in his sleep.
932
00:42:56,617 --> 00:42:58,284
And it's really sad.
933
00:42:58,285 --> 00:43:01,663
He was alone
and unfortunately had no idea
934
00:43:01,664 --> 00:43:04,499
what severe of a head injury
he had suffered
935
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:07,169
and didn't think
that he needed to call for help.
936
00:43:09,046 --> 00:43:10,630
Shortly after his death,
937
00:43:10,631 --> 00:43:13,633
Saget's family
seals his medical records.
938
00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:16,052
We may never see
the last images of Saget
939
00:43:16,053 --> 00:43:18,221
walking down his hotel corridor,
940
00:43:18,222 --> 00:43:19,931
and we might never know
941
00:43:19,932 --> 00:43:22,892
if he had more underlying
health issues.
942
00:43:22,893 --> 00:43:25,061
We are never
going to get an answer
943
00:43:25,062 --> 00:43:27,772
on what happened to Bob Saget
because there's nothing...
944
00:43:27,773 --> 00:43:30,150
There were no phone calls.
There was no eyewitness.
945
00:43:30,151 --> 00:43:32,360
And I don't think
knowing the answers
946
00:43:32,361 --> 00:43:34,279
is going to give anybody
comfort.
947
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,490
But online, the investigation
is never over.
948
00:43:37,491 --> 00:43:39,367
New theories and arguments
949
00:43:39,368 --> 00:43:42,912
pour into message boards
and social media every day.
950
00:43:42,913 --> 00:43:46,207
We might never know what
truly happened to Bob Saget,
951
00:43:46,208 --> 00:43:48,751
but that won't stop sleuths
around the world
952
00:43:48,752 --> 00:43:50,420
from searching for answers.
953
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:55,020
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