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HELLO, AND WELCOME
TO "OPEN FORUM."
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AN EVERYDAY AMERICAN COUPLE...
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MY NAME IS
CHARLES BILLIS.
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I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU
TO MY WIFE, CHRISTINE.
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...WHO HAPPENED TO HOST A SHOW
ON PUBLIC ACCESS TV.
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IN THESE EXCLUSIVE CLIPS
FROM THE TV STUDIO,
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THEIR MARRIAGE
SEEMS FINE...
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OKAY.
OFF WITH THE CAMERA NOW.
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...BUT BEHIND THE SCENES
LURKS A DARK SECRET...
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YOU'D SEE A FEW CRACKS
SURFACE HERE AND THERE.
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THERE'S A CLAUSE
IN THE CONTRACT THAT SAYS
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I HAVE TO BE POLITE,
YOU KNOW?
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...THAT WILL LEAD
TO A SHOCKING DEATH.
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I JUST REMEMBER FEELING,
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LIKE, SUCH AN OVERWHELMING
SENSE OF DREAD.
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NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS.
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THAT WAS A SIGN TO ME
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THAT MAYBE THERE WAS
SOMETHING MORE GOING ON.
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I WAS TANGLED UP WITH SOMEBODY
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THAT I'D REALLY RATHER
NOT BE TANGLED UP WITH.
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SOMEWHERE IN THESE LIGHTHEARTED
AMATEUR BROADCASTS
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IS AN AMERICAN MONSTER.
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Captions by VITAC--
www.vitac.com
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CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY
DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS
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WELCOME TO NORTHERN VERMONT,
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CIRCA 2009.
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YOU'RE WATCHING PUBLIC ACCESS
TELEVISION STATION NEK-TV.
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WELCOME TO OUR NEW SHOW,
"IT'S NEWS TO US."
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THIS IS YOUR HOST,
STEVE MERRILL.
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I'M YOUR...CO-HOST, I GUESS,
CHARLIE BILLIS.
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AND WE'D LIKE TO SAY THIS IS
OUR SECOND EPISODE.
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WE HOPE YOU SAW THE FIRST ONE,
'CAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T,
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WE'LL COME INTO YOUR HOUSE,
AND I'M GONNA CANE YOU.
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BASICALLY, IT'S KIND OF
A GENERAL-PURPOSE NEWS SHOW
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FOR STUFF
FROM VERMONT TOPICS,
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NATIONAL TOPICS,
AND INTERNATIONAL TOPICS
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THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE
THE NEWS OR THE NETWORK NEWS,
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AND SO, YOU KNOW,
WE COVER IT HERE,
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AND THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED
"IT'S NEWS TO US."
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THE FLOATING HEAD THERE
IS STEVE MERRILL,
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A PUBLIC ACCESS TV REGULAR.
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AT NEK-TV, WE PRODUCE
ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF,
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YOU KNOW, LOCAL PROGRAMMING.
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WE HAVE MUSICAL EVENTS AND LOCAL
EVENTS, LIKE PENGUIN PLUNGES.
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WE HAD A GUY WHO USED
TO DO CREATURE FEATURE
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AND HORROR MOVIES
AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
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NEK-TV IS ONE OF MORE THAN
300 PUBLIC ACCESS STATIONS
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ACROSS THE UNITED STATES
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WHERE LOCAL VOLUNTEERS
CAN BROADCAST
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THEIR OWN UNIQUE
MIX OF PROGRAMS.
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THIS IS FUN.
WE'RE HAVING FUN.
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WE ARE HAVING FUN.
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IT IS KIND OF A PECULIARLY
AMERICAN INSTITUTION.
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NEK-TV TAPES THEIR SHOWS
AT A SMALL STUDIO
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HERE IN NEWPORT, VERMONT.
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OH, AND HERE WE ARE.
BACK TO VERMONT.
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OH, WELCOME HOME.
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YEAH, WELCOME HOME TO VERMONT.
"STATE OFFICIALS..."
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THESE RARE BROADCAST
CLIPS FEATURE
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THE STATION'S LATEST OFFERING,
"IT'S NEWS TO US."
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THE PIRATE-HATTED
STEVE MERRILL IS YOUR HOST.
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WE TRY AND FIND THE MOST
OUTRAGEOUSLY STUPID-LOOKING HATS
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AND HEADGEAR SO THAT,
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WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING
THROUGH THE CHANNELS,
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THEY'D SAY,
"WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS?"
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NEXT TO STEVE
IS HIS TRUSTY SIDEKICK,
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57-YEAR-OLD CHARLIE BILLIS.
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WELL, I'VE NOTICED
SOME OF THE EFFECTS.
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IF YOU LOOK AT THE MONITOR
OUT THERE, RIGHT,
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YOU SEEM TO BE PARTIALLY
FLOATING FOR SOME REASON.
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IT'S MADE ME SEE
RIGHT THROUGH YOU.
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THANK GOD I AIN'T
GOING NEAR THAT PLANT.
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LET ME OUT OF HERE.
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LET ME OUT OF HERE!
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PERCHED IN FRONT
OF A GREEN SCREEN
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FLOWING WITH PSYCHEDELIC IMAGES,
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THE TWO SERVE UP A UNIQUELY
LOCAL PERSPECTIVE ON THE NEWS.
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AND I ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT
THAT WITH, LIKE, BISEXUALS.
WHAT DO YOU DO? I MEAN,
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DO YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING
AND FLIP A COIN?
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YOU KNOW?
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
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WELL,
SHOULD I TELL YOU?
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AM I ALLOWED TO GIVE YOU
MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS...
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WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU'RE A TRISEXUAL.
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YOU LIKE MEN, WOMEN,
AND BARNYARD ANIMALS, RIGHT?
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ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS WEAR BOOTS.
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YEAH.
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CHARLIE WAS ALWAYS ON HIS TOES,
AND WHEN YOU FIRST MEET HIM,
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YOU KNOW, ALL IT TAKES
IS A FEW SENTENCES,
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AND YOU KNOW THAT THE PERSON'S,
LIKE, ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH.
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WE JUST CRACK EACH OTHER UP.
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DEATH BY STONING--
THAT'D TAKE A LOT OF WEED.
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I KNOW SOME PEOPLE
WHO-- WHOO.
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IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
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BEHIND THE CAMERA,
WATCHING EVERY WISECRACK,
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IS CHARLIE'S WIFE,
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42-YEAR-OLD CHRISSY BILLIS.
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A MAN HAS BEEN ARRESTED
IN NORTHERN GREECE
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FOR ALLEGEDLY GROWING MARIJUANA
IN THE MEDIAN STRIP
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OF THE COUNTRY'S
MAIN HIGHWAY.
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HEY!
HEY.
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HOW INTELLIGENT ARE
THOSE GREEK COPS ANYWAY,
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IF IT'S GROWING
RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU?
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IT'S ONLY 5, 6 FEET HIGH.
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WELL, YOU KNOW,
THINK ABOUT THIS.
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WE'LL LET THE GOATS
EAT IT.
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YOU'RE DRIVING A CRUISER.
YOU'RE--
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BACK THE SHEEP UP
TO IT, BOYS.
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GONNA HAVE US
A HOEDOWN.
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CHRISSY ALSO PROVIDES
THE IN-STUDIO LAUGH TRACK.
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CHARLIE'S WIFE, CHRISSY, WAS
HIS PRODUCER, HIS EDITOR.
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CHRISSY PRETTY MUCH
RAN EVERYTHING,
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AND CHARLIE WAS
THE ON-CAMERA PERSONALITY.
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ALL RIGHT.
MINUTE MAN AND SECOND MAN.
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EVERYONE SEEMS TO
BE HAVING FUN...
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WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS NEXT WEEK.
PASTA LA VISTA.
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...BUT YOU SHOULDN'T ALWAYS
BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE ON TV.
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BUT THAT'S IT
FOR THIS WEEK'S EPISODE
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OF "IT'S NEWS TO US."
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AND REMEMBER, WHEN
THE NEWS BREAKS, WE FIX IT.
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THIS WILL BE THEIR FINAL EPISODE
OF "IT'S NEWS TO US."
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BYE!
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AND CUT.
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OH, THANK GOD
THAT'S OVER.
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WELL, AT LEAST WE DIDN'T
COMPLETELY MUCK IT UP.
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WITHIN MINUTES OF
TAPING THIS SHOW,
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ONE OF THESE
CHEERFUL TV MAKERS...
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WILL BE DEAD.
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DRIVE SAFE.
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I WILL.
SEE YOU TOMORROW.
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SEE YOU TOMORROW.BYE, STEVE.
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CHRISSY DRIVES CHARLIE
THE 30-MINUTE TRIP
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TO THEIR FARMHOUSE
OVER IN BROWNINGTON.
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STEVE HAS A 20-MINUTE JOURNEY
TO NORTH TROY.
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OH, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL OUT,
ESPECIALLY UP HERE
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IN NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND.
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IN SEPTEMBER,
IT CAN BE REALLY NICE.
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JUST 15 MINUTES
OUTSIDE OF NEWPORT,
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PAM AND RAY HELENEK
ARE FINISHING THEIR DAY
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AT THEIR ROADSIDE FARMHOUSE.
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WE WERE SITTING DOWN FOR SUPPER,
AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, JUST BANG.
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IT SOUNDED LIKE DYNAMITE.
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WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW
WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
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IT'S 2004,
AND CHARLIE AND CHRISSY BILLIS
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HAVE MOVED UP FROM BOSTON
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TO THE QUIETER PASTURES
OF NORTHEASTERN VERMONT...
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BETTER HURRY UP.
BUS IS GONNA BE HERE SOON.
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...WHERE THEY LIVE
WITH DAUGHTER KATHERINE
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AND CHRISSY'S DAUGHTER FROM HER
PREVIOUS MARRIAGE, CORRINA.
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MY FAMILY WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY,
LIKE, NORMAL GROWING UP.
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THEY CARED FOR US,
PUT US THROUGH SCHOOL.
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YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL--
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NOT EVERYONE GETS
A FREE SHOW AT BREAKFAST.
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MY PARENTS DID LOVE
EACH OTHER A LOT.
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I ONLY LAUGH AT YOU
TO AVOID CRYING.
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CHARLIE AND CHRISSY OFTEN USE
HUMOR TO DISTRACT THEMSELVES
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FROM THEIR MORE
SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
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S-SORRY, COULD I HAVE SOME
MORE COFFEE, PLEASE?
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CHARLIE IS LEGALLY BLIND.
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HE'S SUFFERED FROM IMPAIRED
VISION SINCE CHILDHOOD.
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STILL, HE'S BEEN ABLE
TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY.
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MY DAD USED TO WORK
AS A USED-CAR SALESMAN,
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WHICH SOUNDS KIND OF TRASHY,
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BUT HE WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT
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BECAUSE OF HIS CHARISMA
AND HIS PEOPLE SKILLS.
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THE HOME IS CHRISSY'S DOMAIN,
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AND SHE'S THE GLUE
THAT HOLDS THIS FAMILY TOGETHER.
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I THINK THERE WAS A LOT
OF PRESSURE ON MY MOM, YOU KNOW,
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BEING THAT CARETAKER
FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY.
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OF COURSE, MAKING ENDS MEET ON
CHARLIE'S TINY SALARY IS TOUGH.
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MONEY WAS KIND OF TIGHT, AND IT
WAS KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR US.
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BEING OUT IN THIS, LIKE,
LITTLE FARMHOUSE
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AND CARING
FOR MY SIBLING AND I--
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I GUESS SHE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE
A LOT OF TIME TO HERSELF.
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JUST 6 MONTHS AFTER MOVING HERE,
CHARLIE DISCOVERS A NEW PASSION,
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MAKING TELEVISION DOWN
AT THEIR PUBLIC ACCESS
TV STATION, NEK-TV.
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BEFORE LONG,
CHRISSY JOINS HIM AT THE STUDIO.
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DON'T PRESS THE WRONG
BUTTONS, HONEY.
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IT TURNED INTO SOMETHING
THAT THEY COULD WORK ON
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AND DO TOGETHER.
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IN 2005, THE TWO LAUNCHED
THEIR OWN CHAT SHOW
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CALLED "OPEN FORUM."
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HELLO, AND WELCOME
TO "OPEN FORUM."
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MY NAME IS
CHARLES BILLIS.
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I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU
TO MY WIFE, CHRISTINE.
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HI.
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AND, CHRISTINE, IF YOU WOULD
DO US THE HONOR
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AND INTRODUCE
THE FIRST GUEST.
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WELL, WE WOULD LIKE
TO WELCOME YOU,
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AND WE'D LIKE TO
WELCOME LINDA.
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THE SERIES FEATURES CHARLIE
AND CHRISSY IN THEIR SUNDAY BEST
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INTERVIEWING ANYONE
THEY FIND INTERESTING.
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WE'LL START BY YOU TELLING US
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF
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AND HOW YOU STARTED
WITH THIS COMPANY AND...
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THE HOMESPUN SHOW WILL RUN
FOR NEARLY 5 YEARS.
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MY MOM WOULD DO A LOT
OF THE EDITING
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AND KIND OF GO THROUGH, LIKE,
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"THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT."
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THE COUPLE CHAT WITH LOCALS
OF ALL SORTS...
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CAN I START?
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YEAH. ALL RIGHT.
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...FROM ANIMAL
COMPLIANCE OFFICERS...
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THAT'S A FASCINATING JOB.
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I BET YOU MEET A LOT OF
FASCINATING PEOPLE OUT THERE.
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YOU MEET INTERESTING PEOPLE,
SEE DIFFERENT PLACES.
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...TO BELLY DANCERS.
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TODAY, OUR SPECIAL GUEST
IS ALIA SABAT.
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SHE IS A MIDDLE EASTERN
DANCE ARTIST.
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WELCOME TO THE SHOW. THANK YOU.
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HELLO. GLAD TO BE HERE.
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DO YOU WANT TO START
THE QUESTIONS,
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OR YOU WANT ME TO START?
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YOU ALWAYS START.
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ALL RIGHT.
SO I'LL START THE QUESTIONS.
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THERE'S A CLAUSE
IN THE CONTRACT THAT SAYS
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I HAVE
TO BE POLITE, YOU KNOW?
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OH. BUT...
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CHRISSY ISN'T AS EXCITED TO BE
ON CAMERA AS HER HUSBAND,
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BUT FOR HIS SAKE,
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SHE'S WILLING
TO GIVE IT A WHIRL.
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I THINK MY MOM HAD A LOT OF FUN,
ESPECIALLY SINCE
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SHE WAS KIND OF COOPED UP
IN THIS HOUSE A LOT.
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THE STUDIOS OF NEK-TV
WERE KIND OF LIKE
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A HOME AWAY FROM HOME
FOR CHARLIE AND CHRISSY,
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AND THEY WERE A GOOD TEAM.
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THEY PRODUCED A LOT OF STUFF.
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THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT--
IT'S A STRANGE SHOW.
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BUT FOR THOSE LOOKING BACK
YEARS LATER,
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STRANGE DOESN'T EVEN
BEGIN TO DESCRIBE IT.
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CHARLIE OR CHRISSY COULD NEVER
HAVE IMAGINED THAT THESE CLIPS
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WILL LATER BE
BROADCAST NATIONWIDE
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AND THAT THIS FOOTAGE
MIGHT HOLD CLUES
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TO THE TERRIBLE EVENTS
THAT ARE ABOUT TO UNFOLD.
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HELLO, AND WELCOME
TO "OPEN FORUM."
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THIS IS YOUR HOST,
CHARLIE BILLIS.
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I'M CHRISSY BILLIS.
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IN UPSTATE VERMONT,
CHARLIE AND CHRISSY BILLIS
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ARE PRODUCING
THEIR OWN ODDBALL TALK SHOW
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ON THE LOCAL
PUBLIC ACCESS STATION, NEK-TV.
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I'M GLAD YOU CAME.
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JUST AN OPINION,
DO YOU...
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MY DAD'S DECISION
TO START A TALK SHOW,
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I THINK, REALLY STEMMED FROM,
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YOU KNOW, HIS INTELLECTUAL SIDE
AND HIS PEOPLE SKILLS.
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...SO I CAN LEARN
HOW TO DELETE IT.
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IT WAS LIKE WATCHING
A HIGHWIRE ACT.
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YOU KNOW, THE GUY WAS GOOD
AT WHAT HE DID.
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WE CAN TALK ABOUT
NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
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I MEAN, WE CAN
TAKE HOURS AND HOURS.
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I SEE ON SCREEN SAVERS,
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YOU KNOW, THE THINGS
THAT ARE GOING ON.
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IT'S AMAZING.
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WORKING ON A TV SHOW TAKES
A LOT OF COMMUNICATION,
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AND I THINK THAT
WAS REALLY GOOD
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IN HELPING THEM
COME TOGETHER.
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MY COMPUTER AT HOME
IS SO SLOW
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I GO--
I GO TO THE LIBRARY.
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IT'S LIKE, "YAY."
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IT MAY BE JUST AN UNPAID GIG
AT A PUBLIC ACCESS STATION,
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BUT CHARLIE HAS
BIG AMBITIONS IN TV.
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HE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO GO
FROM PUBLIC ACCESS TO,
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YOU KNOW, LIKE,
MAINSTREAM TELEVISION.
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CHRISSY IS MORE REALISTIC.
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I FEEL LIKE, FOR HER,
IT WAS MORE OF A HOBBY.
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IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA,
THE TWO SHARE AN EASY CHEMISTRY.
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WHEN THEY GET HOME,
IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
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CHRISSY IS STARTING TO RESENT
HOW MUCH TIME
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CHARLIE IS SPENDING
AT THE STATION,
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LEAVING HER TO RUN THE HOUSEHOLD
AND RAISE THE GIRLS.
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SHE HAD TO DO A LOT OF WORK.
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I COULD SEE HOW THAT
WOULD BE OVERWHELMING.
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SHE NEEDS CHARLIE TO GET OUT
THERE AND MAKE SOME REAL MONEY.
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OH, HEY, HONEY.
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HEY.
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BUT CHARLIE
HAS OTHER IDEAS.
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I'VE BEEN THINKING, UM...YEAH?
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I'M GONNA BE FOCUSING ALL
MY ENERGY ON THE TV BUSINESS.
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CHARLIE DECIDES NOT TO
LOOK FOR A JOB IN VERMONT.
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SO THEIR ONLY INCOME
WILL BE HIS DISABILITY CHECKS.
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WE HAVEN'T EVEN
DISCUSSED THIS.
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LOOK, YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES
TO THIS FAMILY.
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BUT WHAT IS THERE
TO DISCUSS?
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WE'RE BARELY GETTING BY.
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00:14:35,689 --> 00:14:37,655
YOU KNOW, MONEY IS ALWAYS TIGHT.
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00:14:37,655 --> 00:14:41,103
BUT I'D NEVER HEARD THEM
COMPLAIN ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING.
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00:14:41,103 --> 00:14:43,655
WE'RE OUT IN
THE FIELD TODAY...
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CHARLIE BARELY NOTICES.
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00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,448
HIS ONE-TIME HOBBY HAS BECOME
A NEAR OBSESSION.
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WELL,
THERE YOU GO, FOLKS.
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LEAVE IT UP TO CHARLIE
TO MESS IT UP ONE MORE TIME.
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FOR FOUR DAYS A WEEK,
HE STARTS TAKING "OPEN FORUM"
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OUT OF THE STUDIO
AND ONTO THE ROAD.
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CHRISSY IS LEFT AT HOME,
DOING ALL THE HOUSEWORK
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AND STRETCHING
EVERY DOLLAR SHE CAN.
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MY MOM WAS SORT OF OVERWHELMED
WITH HOW MUCH TIME MY DAD
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WAS DEDICATING TOWARDS,
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YOU KNOW, HIS SHOW,
"OPEN FORUM."
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MONEY WAS TIGHT,
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SO THAT WAS ALWAYS KIND OF,
LIKE, A STRESSOR.
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BUT IN 2009, DISASTER
STRIKES THE BILLIS FAMILY
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WHEN CHRISSY GETS DEVASTATING
NEWS FROM HER DOCTOR.
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SHE HAS OVARIAN CANCER
AND HAS HAD TO UNDERGO
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A FULL HYSTERECTOMY.
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I REMEMBER FEELING, LIKE, REALLY
OVERWHELMED WITH EVERYTHING.
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SHE'S OUR MOM, AND IT WAS
REALLY SCARY TO THINK
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00:15:54,931 --> 00:15:57,413
THAT WE COULD LOSE HER
TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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THERE WE GO.
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00:16:03,275 --> 00:16:05,827
SHE DECIDED TO QUIT SMOKING
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00:16:05,827 --> 00:16:09,379
BECAUSE IT WAS THE BEST DECISION
FOR HER HEALTH.
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SHE WENT ONTO
AN ANTI-SMOKING DRUG,
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AND SHE STARTED NOT
GETTING A LOT OF SLEEP.
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HELLO, AND WELCOME TO
"OPEN FORUM." MY NAME
IS CHARLES BILLIS.
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WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE MY
GOOD FRIEND, MR. RON TAB.
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU
BEEN IN VERMONT?
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AS CHRISSY EMBARKS
ON HER RECOVERY THAT SUMMER,
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00:16:33,724 --> 00:16:36,724
CHARLIE DOUBLES DOWN
ON HIS TV PROJECTS.
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IN AUGUST 2009,
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WHEN HE HEARS STEVE MERRILL
IS LAUNCHING A NEW SHOW,
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HE VOLUNTEERS TO BE
STEVE'S ON-SCREEN SIDEKICK.
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I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAME
AT THE DECISION
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TO HAVE HIM AS A CO-HOST.
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00:16:51,758 --> 00:16:54,068
IT WAS BY MUTUAL AFFIRMATION,
I GUESS.
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IN SEPTEMBER, STEVE AND CHARLIE
PRESENT THEIR NEW SHOW
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TO THE PEOPLE OF VERMONT.
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WELL,
I HEAR IT'S BAD NEWS.
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00:17:07,793 --> 00:17:09,310
SO GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME
SOME GOOD NEWS.
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00:17:09,310 --> 00:17:10,482
I GOT TO GIVE YOU
GOOD NEWS?
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YOU'RE GOING ON
THE WRONG CHANNEL.
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00:17:11,793 --> 00:17:13,413
IF YOU WANT GOOD NEWS... GO TO CNN?
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00:17:13,413 --> 00:17:15,172
OH, I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, GO TO CNN.
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IT'S ALL
HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY.
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00:17:16,413 --> 00:17:18,758
AND IT WAS FUN
TO BE ABLE TO PLAY
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INTELLECTUAL HANDBALL
WITH SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.
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00:17:22,310 --> 00:17:23,586
OH,
AND HERE'S A GOOD ONE.
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00:17:23,586 --> 00:17:26,103
NORTH KOREANS FIGHT BACK
WITH THE SOMALI PIRATES.
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ARE THEY USING SWORDS? NO, NO.
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00:17:28,379 --> 00:17:30,448
THEY WERE USING
MOLOTOV COCKTAILS.
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ALL RIGHT!
THAT'S MY BOYS.
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CHARLIE, HE HAD A VERY
TWISTED SENSE OF HUMOR,
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00:17:35,241 --> 00:17:38,965
AND HE HAD SEEN AND DONE
A LOT OF STRANGE THINGS.
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FOR THE UNINITIATED,
A MOLOTOV COCKTAIL
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IS SIMPLY GASOLINE--
GASOLINE IN A BOTTLE,
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00:17:45,034 --> 00:17:47,724
AND YOU STUFF A RAG IN THE TOP,
POUR A LITTLE GAS ON IT,
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AND IT MAKES--
IT'S NAMED AFTER MOLOTOV,
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ONE OF THE BOLSHEVIKS.
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IT WAS JUST A RIOT.
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THE ONLY THING WE HAD TO LOSE
WAS OUR TIME,
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AND, YOU KNOW, WE BOTH
HAD PLENTY OF THAT.
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BUT FOR CHRISSY,
NOW BACK ON HER FEET,
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THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
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THE BILLS HAVE BEEN
PILING UP AT HOME,
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AND CHARLIE'S BEEN
DOING NOTHING TO PAY THEM.
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00:18:09,379 --> 00:18:11,034
WHILE YOU'RE PLAYING TV
OVER THERE,
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THEY'RE GONNA
CUT THE POWER.
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00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:16,068
AS ALWAYS, CHARLIE DOESN'T
TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
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00:18:16,068 --> 00:18:19,310
I'M GOOD WITH CANDLES.
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00:18:19,310 --> 00:18:21,000
MY PARENTS DID HAVE
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00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,241
A PRETTY STRESSFUL RELATIONSHIP
WITH EACH OTHER,
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AND I THINK IT WAS JUST
A LOT OF MY MOM
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BEING OVERWHELMED BY EVERYTHING
THAT WAS HAPPENING TO HER.
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I HAVE MONEY
COMING IN.
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MY DISABILITY IS MONEY.
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00:18:37,379 --> 00:18:38,724
WHAT DO YOU BRING IN?
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YEAH,
I THOUGHT SO!
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CHARLIE REFUSES
TO GIVE UP MAKING HIS SHOWS,
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AND CHRISSY DECIDES
THAT SHE COULD USE
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A LITTLE TIME
OUTSIDE THE HOUSE HERSELF.
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BY THE FALL OF 2009, I THINK
MY MOM WAS PRETTY EXCITED
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TO START WORKING
ON THE SHOW AGAIN.
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IT WAS SORT OF GETTING BACK INTO
THE, LIKE, DYNAMICS THAT,
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00:19:07,931 --> 00:19:10,448
YOU KNOW,
BEFORE SHE WAS DIAGNOSED.
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WHICH IS WHY CHRISSY IS
BACK BEHIND THE CAMERA
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FOR CHARLIE AND STEVE'S
NEW SHOW
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ON THAT FATEFUL
SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2009.
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WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW
IS THAT THIS WILL BE
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THE GROUP'S
LAST EPISODE TOGETHER.
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WELCOME TO A NEW SHOW,
"IT'S NEWS TO US."
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THIS IS YOUR HOST,
STEVE MERRILL.
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I'M YOUR...CO-HOST, I GUESS,
CHARLIE BILLIS.
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THAT DAY,
WHEN WE SHOT THE SHOW,
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NOTHING SEEMED
OUT OF THE ORDINARY TO ME.
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YOU'RE DRIVING A CRUISER
IN GREECE.
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YOU'RE LISTENING
TO THE RADIO.
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"CRUISER"? WHAT'S THAT, A
BICYCLE WITH TWO REFLECTORS?
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WITHIN THREE OR FOUR MINUTES
AFTER WE STARTED,
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WE WERE ON A ROLL.
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A DONKEY?
A DONKEY WITH ONE OF THEM--
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OKAY, YOU'RE DRIVING
A CHARIOT DOWN THE
HIGHWAY IN GREECE, OKAY?
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"BAA!"
TWO SHEEPS RIDING A TRICYCLE.
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00:20:01,827 --> 00:20:03,586
I'M SORRY. LISTENING TO THE RADIO.
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00:20:03,586 --> 00:20:07,241
WE WERE GETTING LAUGHTER
FROM CHARLIE'S WIFE, CHRISSY.
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IT WAS A GOOD THING.
WE WERE HAVING FUN.
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00:20:12,931 --> 00:20:15,862
IN LESS THAN AN HOUR,
ONE OF THE PEOPLE
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IN THIS ALL-AMERICAN STORY...
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WILL BE DEAD.
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00:20:19,931 --> 00:20:21,379
WE'RE OUT OF TIME. WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
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00:20:30,068 --> 00:20:32,241
HERE WE ARE-- WE'LL HAVE TO
SAVE THIS ONE FOR NEXT WEEK
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00:20:32,241 --> 00:20:34,896
BECAUSE OUR ENGINEER HAS
TOLD US WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
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00:20:34,896 --> 00:20:36,965
WE'RE OUT OF TIME
AND OUT OF STORIES, TOO.
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00:20:36,965 --> 00:20:37,965
YEAH.
NO, NOT REALLY.
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00:20:37,965 --> 00:20:39,344
WE'VE GONE MELTDOWN 101.
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00:20:39,344 --> 00:20:40,689
BUT WE'LL SAVE THAT,
BECAUSE WE KNOW
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00:20:40,689 --> 00:20:41,862
WE'RE STILL MELTING DOWN
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00:20:41,862 --> 00:20:43,862
AS FAR AS WALL STREET GOES.
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00:20:43,862 --> 00:20:48,000
SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2009.
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00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,551
THIS CLIP SHOWS CHARLIE BILLIS
AND HIS FRIEND STEVE MERRILL
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WRAPPING UP THE SECOND EPISODE
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00:20:53,068 --> 00:20:54,724
OF THEIR PUBLIC ACCESS
NEWS SHOW.
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00:20:54,724 --> 00:21:00,172
I'M YOUR HOST, MINUTE MAN,
AND MY BUDDY HERE...
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00:21:00,172 --> 00:21:01,931
SECOND MAN. SECOND MAN?
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00:21:01,931 --> 00:21:03,000
YEAH.
ALL RIGHT.
411
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,965
MINUTE MAN
AND SECOND MAN.
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00:21:04,965 --> 00:21:08,068
WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS NEXT WEEK.
PASTA LA VISTA.
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00:21:08,068 --> 00:21:11,206
BEHIND THE CAMERA IS
CHARLIE'S WIFE, CHRISSY BILLIS.
414
00:21:11,206 --> 00:21:12,206
AND CUT.
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00:21:12,206 --> 00:21:13,931
SHE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN ENJOYING
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00:21:13,931 --> 00:21:15,931
STEVE AND CHARLIE'S
ON-SCREEN CHAT.
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00:21:19,724 --> 00:21:24,275
BY 3:30 THAT AFTERNOON,
EVERYONE'S HEADED HOME.
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00:21:24,275 --> 00:21:27,172
IT WAS JUST A NORMAL DAY
LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY.
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00:21:30,172 --> 00:21:34,793
THAT'S WHEN PAM AND RAY HELENEK
ARE HAVING AN EARLY DINNER...
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00:21:44,379 --> 00:21:48,206
...AND HEAR THAT TERRIBLE CRASH
IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
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00:21:53,172 --> 00:21:55,758
BY THE TIME RAY REACHES THE CAR,
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00:21:55,758 --> 00:21:59,482
OTHERS FROM PASSING VEHICLES
ARE DRAGGING SOMEONE OUT.
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00:21:59,482 --> 00:22:02,103
THERE WAS
ALL KINDS OF COMMOTION.
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00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:04,482
PEOPLE WERE ALL AROUND.
425
00:22:04,482 --> 00:22:06,620
IT'S CHRISSY AND CHARLIE BILLIS,
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00:22:06,620 --> 00:22:09,275
AND THEY'VE BEEN
IN A HORRIFIC ACCIDENT.
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00:22:09,275 --> 00:22:11,103
WE LIVED HERE SINCE 1971,
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00:22:11,103 --> 00:22:13,620
AND WE'VE NEVER SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE.
429
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:18,275
CHRISSY SEEMS OKAY, BUT CHARLIE
WASN'T WEARING HIS SEAT BELT.
430
00:22:18,275 --> 00:22:20,413
HIS LEGS ARE CRUSHED.
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00:22:20,413 --> 00:22:24,655
EMERGENCY RESPONDERS ARE
EVENTUALLY ABLE TO FREE HIM,
432
00:22:24,655 --> 00:22:27,310
AND THEY RUSH THE COUPLE
TO THE E.R.
433
00:22:36,241 --> 00:22:40,758
AT THE HOSPITAL, DOCTORS
SOON GIVE CHRISSY THE ALL-CLEAR.
434
00:22:40,758 --> 00:22:43,551
BUT AS THE HOURS PASS
WITH NO WORD,
435
00:22:43,551 --> 00:22:46,379
THE FAMILY IS WORRIED
ABOUT CHARLIE.
436
00:22:46,379 --> 00:22:48,517
THERE WAS JUST, LIKE,
ALL THIS FEELING OF DREAD
437
00:22:48,517 --> 00:22:50,482
THAT I HAD JUST BEEN
BUILDING UP ALL DAY.
438
00:22:50,482 --> 00:22:52,793
IT WAS LIKE A TIP
OF THE ROLLER COASTER.
439
00:22:54,827 --> 00:22:56,724
I'M SO SORRY...
440
00:22:56,724 --> 00:22:58,517
YOUR HUSBAND
HAS DIED.
441
00:23:02,379 --> 00:23:05,379
IT WAS REALLY OVERWHELMING,
JUST TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, LIKE,
442
00:23:05,379 --> 00:23:08,310
"OH, YOUR DAD DIDN'T MAKE IT."
443
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:10,448
AND IT WAS, LIKE...
444
00:23:10,448 --> 00:23:15,103
SO, LIKE-- PROBABLY THE BIGGEST
HEARTBREAK OF MY LIFE,
445
00:23:15,103 --> 00:23:17,862
I'D HAVE TO SAY, FOR SURE.
446
00:23:22,241 --> 00:23:25,206
MY DAD AND I HAD ACTUALLY GOTTEN
IN A FIGHT THE DAY BEFORE,
447
00:23:25,206 --> 00:23:29,482
SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE CHANCE
TO SAY GOODBYE TO HIM.
448
00:23:35,689 --> 00:23:40,896
THE FUN-LOVING JOKER,
SEEN IN THE NEK-TV VIDEOS,
449
00:23:40,896 --> 00:23:42,896
WILL BE MUCH MISSED.
450
00:23:42,896 --> 00:23:44,172
IT'S JUST LIKE
THE UNITED STATES.
451
00:23:44,172 --> 00:23:47,000
OUR BUSINESS IS DEATH,
AND, UH...
452
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,241
YOU KNOW, JOB ONE IS DEATH,
AND BUSINESS IS GOOD.
453
00:23:49,241 --> 00:23:51,862
ABSOLUTELY, SIR.
AND WHO PROFITS?
THE UNDERTAKER.
454
00:23:51,862 --> 00:23:52,862
YEAH. YEAH.
455
00:24:05,965 --> 00:24:09,793
AS WITH ANY FATAL CAR CRASH
ALONG A STATE ROUTE,
456
00:24:09,793 --> 00:24:12,793
VERMONT STATE POLICE
ARRIVE TO INVESTIGATE.
457
00:24:12,793 --> 00:24:15,965
THERE WASN'T ANY EVIDENCE
OF ANYTHING FOUND IN THE ROADWAY
458
00:24:15,965 --> 00:24:17,413
THAT WOULD HAVE
CAUSED HER TO SWERVE.
459
00:24:20,758 --> 00:24:23,275
THERE WERE NO SKID MARKS
ON THE ROADWAY.
460
00:24:24,793 --> 00:24:27,620
THE INVESTIGATORS
ARE LEFT SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS.
461
00:24:29,965 --> 00:24:33,068
CHRISSY HAS MANAGED TO CRASH
INTO THE ONLY TREE
462
00:24:33,068 --> 00:24:34,758
ALONG THAT STRETCH OF ROAD
463
00:24:34,758 --> 00:24:37,034
FOR AT LEAST A MILE
IN EITHER DIRECTION.
464
00:24:43,724 --> 00:24:46,724
THE NEXT DAY,
CHRISSY IS RELEASED BACK HOME
465
00:24:46,724 --> 00:24:48,758
INTO THE CARE OF HER DAUGHTERS.
466
00:24:50,103 --> 00:24:53,965
THE STATE TROOPER STOPS BY
TO QUESTION HER ABOUT THE CRASH.
467
00:24:53,965 --> 00:24:56,206
G-GOOD AFTERNOON.
468
00:24:56,206 --> 00:24:59,482
IT WAS KIND OF STRANGE
TO SEE MY MOM BEING INTERROGATED
469
00:24:59,482 --> 00:25:02,379
WITH ALL THESE QUESTIONS,
LIKE, ESPECIALLY, LIKE,
470
00:25:02,379 --> 00:25:04,793
RIGHT AFTER LOSING SOMEBODY.
471
00:25:04,793 --> 00:25:08,103
TELL ME, ARE YOU ON
ANY MEDICATIONS?
472
00:25:08,103 --> 00:25:09,586
IT SORT OF FELT, LIKE,
YOU KNOW,
473
00:25:09,586 --> 00:25:13,482
IT WAS MY MOM, MY SISTER, AND I
AGAINST THE WORLD AT THAT POINT.
474
00:25:13,482 --> 00:25:17,275
CHRISSY REVEALS THAT IN ADDITION
TO THE ANTI-SMOKING DRUGS,
475
00:25:17,275 --> 00:25:19,931
SHE'S ALSO BEEN TAKING ANTIDEPRESSANTS
476
00:25:19,931 --> 00:25:21,793
AND SLEEPING PILLS.
477
00:25:21,793 --> 00:25:25,448
IT GIVES THE TROOPER A POSSIBLE
EXPLANATION FOR THE CRASH.
478
00:25:25,448 --> 00:25:28,758
CHRISSY'S MEDICATIONS MAY HAVE
MADE HER BLACK OUT BRIEFLY
479
00:25:28,758 --> 00:25:30,620
JUST BEFORE THE ACCIDENT.
480
00:25:30,620 --> 00:25:33,379
MY CONDOLENCES.
I'LL BE IN TOUCH.
481
00:25:44,931 --> 00:25:47,655
WITHIN DAYS
OF CHARLIE'S DEATH,
482
00:25:47,655 --> 00:25:50,620
FAMILY AND FRIENDS GATHER
TO PAY THEIR RESPECTS.
483
00:25:55,827 --> 00:25:58,965
THE PUBLIC ACCESS TV HOST
WAS WELL-KNOWN
484
00:25:58,965 --> 00:26:00,827
AND WELL-LOVED
IN THE COMMUNITY.
485
00:26:00,827 --> 00:26:02,034
ANOTHER, WHAT?
486
00:26:02,034 --> 00:26:03,379
IT WOULD TAKE FIVE YEARS
FOR THE TICKS
487
00:26:03,379 --> 00:26:04,586
TO BE UP HERE,
YOU KNOW?
488
00:26:04,586 --> 00:26:06,655
WELL, HOPEFULLY,
I WON'T BE AROUND.
489
00:26:07,862 --> 00:26:11,068
I MISS HIM TERRIBLY.
490
00:26:11,068 --> 00:26:12,413
IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
491
00:26:12,413 --> 00:26:14,413
HE WAS A GREAT GUY
AND VERY SMART.
492
00:26:20,862 --> 00:26:24,862
NEVERTHELESS, EIGHT DAYS
AFTER CHARLIE'S DEATH,
493
00:26:24,862 --> 00:26:29,655
STEVE MERRILL RETURNS TO SCREENS
WITH "IT'S NEWS TO US"...
494
00:26:29,655 --> 00:26:32,068
WITH A NEW CO-HOST.
495
00:26:32,068 --> 00:26:35,172
WHERE MY CO-HOST
CHARLIE BILLIS WAS KILLED
496
00:26:35,172 --> 00:26:37,827
JUST AFTER
HE LEFT THE STUDIO
497
00:26:37,827 --> 00:26:40,000
IN A HORRIBLE
CAR CRASH.
498
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,448
AND, CHARLIE, IF YOU'RE
WATCHING, THIS SHOW IS FOR YOU.
499
00:26:45,448 --> 00:26:47,827
AND, LET'S SEE--
WE'LL START OFF
500
00:26:47,827 --> 00:26:50,448
WITH THE BIGGEST
NON-NEWS NEWS STORY
501
00:26:50,448 --> 00:26:52,137
THAT HASN'T...
502
00:26:52,137 --> 00:26:54,827
AFTER BREAKING THE TRAGIC NEWS
TO VIEWERS,
503
00:26:54,827 --> 00:26:58,137
STEVE FORGES AHEAD
WITH THE PROGRAM.
504
00:26:58,137 --> 00:27:01,517
AFTER ALL,
THE SHOW MUST GO ON.
505
00:27:11,034 --> 00:27:12,551
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR BEING WELCOME.
506
00:27:12,551 --> 00:27:14,000
I MEAN--[ LAUGHS]
507
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,827
YOU SEE WHAT THIS STUFF
DOES TO ME?
508
00:27:15,827 --> 00:27:16,896
NOW I CAN'T THINK
TOO GOOD.
509
00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:18,068
THANK YOU
FOR BEING WITH US.
510
00:27:18,068 --> 00:27:19,206
IT WAS A VERY
INTERESTING PROGRAM.
511
00:27:19,206 --> 00:27:20,551
HE WAS DANCING
OVER THERE.
512
00:27:20,551 --> 00:27:22,137
YOU COULDN'T SEE HIM,
BUT HE WAS.
513
00:27:22,137 --> 00:27:25,275
IT'S BEEN JUST
FOUR WEEKS SINCE THE DEATH
514
00:27:25,275 --> 00:27:29,137
OF VERMONT PUBLIC ACCESS
TELEVISION HOST CHARLIE BILLIS.
515
00:27:31,379 --> 00:27:33,724
HIS WIFE, CHRISSY,
WAS BEHIND THE WHEEL
516
00:27:33,724 --> 00:27:37,275
WHEN THEIR CAR
CRASHED INTO A TREE,
517
00:27:37,275 --> 00:27:39,827
BUT SHE SURVIVED.
518
00:27:39,827 --> 00:27:43,620
THAT'S A REALLY BIG LOSS
TO JUST FACE OUT OF NOWHERE,
519
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:45,620
AND IT WAS REALLY
HARD FOR HER, TOO,
520
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:48,482
TO LOSE THE PERSON
THAT SHE LOVED, YOU KNOW?
521
00:27:48,482 --> 00:27:51,206
WE ALL LOVED HIM, AND...
522
00:27:51,206 --> 00:27:53,103
UM...
523
00:27:54,344 --> 00:27:56,344
THE COMPUTER COMES ON.
EVERYTHING'S FINE.
524
00:27:56,344 --> 00:27:58,655
NOW IT WON'T RECOGNIZE
THE MODEM TO GET DIAL-UP.
525
00:27:58,655 --> 00:28:00,448
OH.
526
00:28:00,448 --> 00:28:01,862
YEAH, THAT'S HAPPENED
MORE THAN ONCE.
527
00:28:01,862 --> 00:28:03,758
THE INFAMOUS
DRIVER ISSUE.
528
00:28:03,758 --> 00:28:06,172
YES, SIR. I SPEND
MORE TIME WITH THIS.
529
00:28:06,172 --> 00:28:08,000
I THINK I CAN PAY
FOR THE COMPUTER.
530
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000
FOR NOW, CHRISSY CAN'T
RETURN TO THE TV STUDIO.
531
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,275
THE MEMORIES ARE JUST
TOO PAINFUL.
532
00:28:22,793 --> 00:28:25,137
THAT SAME FALL OF 2009,
533
00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:28,758
STEVE MERRILL VISITS
THE STATE POLICE.
534
00:28:28,758 --> 00:28:31,206
TAKE A SEAT.
THANK YOU.
535
00:28:31,206 --> 00:28:35,034
STEVE CAN'T SHAKE THE IDEA
THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN MORE
536
00:28:35,034 --> 00:28:38,620
TO CHARLIE'S DEATH
THAN ANYONE THOUGHT
537
00:28:38,620 --> 00:28:42,862
BECAUSE OF SOMETHING HE NOTICED
AT HIS GOOD FRIEND'S FUNERAL.
538
00:28:42,862 --> 00:28:45,931
OH, GOSH.
539
00:28:45,931 --> 00:28:49,413
I FOUND THAT CHRISSY'S BEHAVIOR
AT THE FUNERAL
540
00:28:49,413 --> 00:28:52,275
WAS JUST COMPLETELY WEIRD.
541
00:28:58,275 --> 00:29:01,344
YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T,
LIKE, EVEN A TEAR THERE.
542
00:29:02,862 --> 00:29:05,172
AND THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE.
543
00:29:05,172 --> 00:29:09,172
STEVE TELLS THEM ABOUT AN ODD
CONVERSATION HE AND CHRISSY HAD
544
00:29:09,172 --> 00:29:12,206
ABOUT A MONTH
BEFORE THE ACCIDENT.
545
00:29:12,206 --> 00:29:16,931
I WAS TELLING CHRISSY
ABOUT A FRIEND OF MINE.
546
00:29:16,931 --> 00:29:20,103
HIS WIFE HAD A CAR.
THE CAR WAS A LEMON.
547
00:29:20,103 --> 00:29:21,689
THEY STRAPPED THEMSELVES,
AND THEY PUT
548
00:29:21,689 --> 00:29:23,724
ALL THESE PILLOWS INSIDE.YEAH?
549
00:29:23,724 --> 00:29:27,379
AND THEY HAD DRIVEN THE CAR
INTO A TREE TO TOTAL IT.
550
00:29:27,379 --> 00:29:29,000
IT WASN'T INSURANCE FRAUD.
551
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,724
BRILLIANT.
552
00:29:30,724 --> 00:29:35,413
I COULD SEE THE CHANGE
COME OVER HER.
553
00:29:35,413 --> 00:29:38,517
IT WAS LIKE I COULD TELL THAT
SHE HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR A WAY
554
00:29:38,517 --> 00:29:41,172
TO GET CHARLIE
OUT OF HER LIFE.
555
00:29:41,172 --> 00:29:42,931
BUT IT'S A BIG ACCUSATION,
556
00:29:42,931 --> 00:29:46,758
AND POLICE HAVE NOTHING TO GO ON
BUT STEVE'S SUSPICIONS.
557
00:29:49,206 --> 00:29:51,724
AFTER SOMEONE BROKE IN
AND STOLE ELECTRONICS...
558
00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:53,793
IT'S BEEN 10 MONTHS
SINCE CHARLIE BILLIS
559
00:29:53,793 --> 00:29:57,103
MADE HIS LAST APPEARANCE
ON NEK-TV.
560
00:29:57,103 --> 00:29:58,655
YEAH, WHAT, DID THE GUY
COME BACK FOR MORE?
561
00:29:58,655 --> 00:30:00,241
ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW... DID HE FORGET SOMETHING?
562
00:30:00,241 --> 00:30:01,793
...HE MUST HAVE HEARD
ABOUT ALWAYS RETURNING
563
00:30:01,793 --> 00:30:03,275
TO THE SCENE
OF THE CRIME.
564
00:30:08,551 --> 00:30:11,448
CHRISSY DECIDES IT'S TIME
TO STOP GRIEVING
565
00:30:11,448 --> 00:30:12,965
AND LOOK TO HER FUTURE.
566
00:30:12,965 --> 00:30:15,793
AFTER ALL, SHE'S STILL
ONLY 43 YEARS OLD.
567
00:30:15,793 --> 00:30:19,448
SO SHE TIPTOES INTO THE WORLD
OF ONLINE DATING.
568
00:30:21,517 --> 00:30:26,206
MY MOM IS SOMEONE WHO WANTS
TO CARE FOR OTHER PEOPLE,
569
00:30:26,206 --> 00:30:30,517
AND I FELT LIKE MAYBE SHE
WAS LOOKING FOR THAT AGAIN.
570
00:30:30,517 --> 00:30:34,482
AND BEFORE LONG,
SHE FINDS AN INTERESTING MATCH
571
00:30:34,482 --> 00:30:37,034
THAT WILL QUICKLY
CHANGE HER LIFE.
572
00:30:39,206 --> 00:30:41,413
HIS NAME IS KEVIN LELAND,
573
00:30:41,413 --> 00:30:44,379
AND HE'S JUST MOVED
TO THE VERMONT AREA.
574
00:30:44,379 --> 00:30:46,655
ON THIS PARTICULAR WEBSITE,
575
00:30:46,655 --> 00:30:49,655
THEY RATE YOU AS FAR
AS A MATCH IS CONCERNED,
576
00:30:49,655 --> 00:30:53,275
AND IT TURNED OUT WE WERE
A VERY CLOSE MATCH-- 98%.
577
00:30:53,275 --> 00:30:55,310
IT'S KIND OF UNCOMMON.
578
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:57,931
WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR
SENSE OF HUMOR.
579
00:30:59,206 --> 00:31:02,586
YEAH, AFTERNOON WAS GOOD.
AND YOURS?
580
00:31:02,586 --> 00:31:04,517
OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS,
581
00:31:04,517 --> 00:31:07,586
CHRISSY AND KEVIN
GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER BETTER.
582
00:31:07,586 --> 00:31:10,793
WE HAD AN INSTANT-MESSAGE
CONVERSATION,
583
00:31:10,793 --> 00:31:12,689
AND THAT'S WHEN SHE MENTIONED
584
00:31:12,689 --> 00:31:15,517
THAT SHE LOST HER HUSBAND
IN A CAR CRASH.
585
00:31:15,517 --> 00:31:18,620
I DID FEEL HORRIBLE TO THINK
OF LOSING A HUSBAND--
586
00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:21,896
LOSING A SPOUSE-- THAT WAY.
587
00:31:30,275 --> 00:31:32,758
IT'S BEEN ONE YEAR
SINCE CHARLIE'S DEATH,
588
00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:35,103
AND KEVIN AND CHRISSY
HAVE DECIDED TO MEET UP
589
00:31:35,103 --> 00:31:39,137
FOR A WALK OUT
IN THE ROLLING FARMLANDS.
590
00:31:39,137 --> 00:31:41,206
SHE WASN'T IN SUCH
AN UPBEAT MOOD,
591
00:31:41,206 --> 00:31:44,413
AND I ASKED HER WHAT WAS WRONG.
592
00:31:44,413 --> 00:31:47,344
AND SHE SAID, "THE ACCIDENT."
593
00:31:47,344 --> 00:31:51,586
CHARLIE'S DEATH IS
NEVER FAR FROM CHRISSY'S MIND.
594
00:31:51,586 --> 00:31:54,103
WE HAD WALKED DOWN ROUTE 5,
595
00:31:54,103 --> 00:31:56,034
THE SAME ROAD
AS THE ACCIDENT OCCURRED ON.
596
00:31:58,275 --> 00:32:02,551
AND WE WENT RIGHT AROUND
THE TREE THAT SHE HIT.
597
00:32:07,275 --> 00:32:10,689
AND SHE WAS EXPLAINING
THE DETAILS OF THE ACCIDENT.
598
00:32:10,689 --> 00:32:12,379
CHARLIE WASN'T WEARING
HIS SEAT BELT.
599
00:32:13,137 --> 00:32:14,758
I'D FELT KIND OF WEIRD.
600
00:32:14,758 --> 00:32:18,206
YOU KNOW, AND I WASN'T GOING
TOO FAST, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 55.
601
00:32:18,206 --> 00:32:21,517
BEFORE LONG,
CHRISSY IS CONFIDING IN KEVIN
602
00:32:21,517 --> 00:32:24,862
ABOUT HER MARRIAGE TO CHARLIE.
603
00:32:24,862 --> 00:32:27,310
EVEN THOUGH, AS MUCH AS I DIDN'T
WANT TO HEAR THE GORY DETAILS,
604
00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:28,310
I WANT TO KNOW.
605
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:30,655
OKAY,
HE WAS ABUSIVE...
606
00:32:30,655 --> 00:32:34,344
TO ME, TO THE GIRLS.
607
00:32:34,344 --> 00:32:36,931
I WAS DEVASTATED,
HEARING THIS.
608
00:32:36,931 --> 00:32:40,034
YOU KNOW, I--
MY BREATH STOPPED.
609
00:32:40,034 --> 00:32:43,517
AND SHE TALKED ABOUT
FEELING GUILTY
610
00:32:43,517 --> 00:32:45,758
ABOUT THE ACCIDENT, YOU KNOW?
611
00:32:45,758 --> 00:32:47,586
AND I SAID, "OF COURSE,"
612
00:32:47,586 --> 00:32:49,241
YOU KNOW,
"YOU'RE GONNA FEEL GUILTY.
613
00:32:49,241 --> 00:32:53,448
IT'S, YOU KNOW, NATURAL,
BUT IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT."
614
00:32:55,517 --> 00:32:58,275
SHE WAS,
"NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND."
615
00:32:59,758 --> 00:33:01,482
"NO, I DID IT ON PURPOSE."
616
00:33:03,275 --> 00:33:04,827
"I KILLED HIM ON PURPOSE."
617
00:33:07,689 --> 00:33:09,379
AND I'M LIKE, "WOW."
618
00:33:12,793 --> 00:33:14,482
I-I WAS SHOCKED.
619
00:33:14,482 --> 00:33:18,034
I DID REALIZE I JUST BECAME
A WITNESS TO A MURDER.
620
00:33:19,793 --> 00:33:21,448
I WAS TANGLED UP WITH SOMEBODY
621
00:33:21,448 --> 00:33:24,137
THAT I'D REALLY RATHER
NOT BE TANGLED UP WITH.
622
00:33:24,137 --> 00:33:28,862
WHY WOULD CHRISSY BILLIS,
CHARLIE'S WIFE OF 17 YEARS,
623
00:33:28,862 --> 00:33:31,413
CRASH THE CAR ON PURPOSE?
624
00:33:32,758 --> 00:33:34,413
KEVIN KNOWS HE SHOULD
GO STRAIGHT
625
00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:36,103
TO THE VERMONT STATE POLICE,
626
00:33:36,103 --> 00:33:39,655
BUT FIRST, HE DECIDES TO TRY
AND GET FURTHER PROOF.
627
00:33:39,655 --> 00:33:43,551
I DIDN'T EXPECT TO BE BELIEVED
JUST TELLING MY STORY
628
00:33:43,551 --> 00:33:47,172
WITHOUT ANY KIND
OF BACKUP EVIDENCE.
629
00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:50,724
I DECIDED I WAS GONNA PUT
A DIGITAL RECORDER IN MY POCKET
630
00:33:50,724 --> 00:33:53,413
AND SET UP ANOTHER MEETING
WITH HER
631
00:33:53,413 --> 00:33:55,379
AND GET HER TO CONFESS.
632
00:33:55,379 --> 00:33:57,275
HI.
633
00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:04,068
WHEN HE SHOWS UP AT THE VERMONT
STATE POLICE THE NEXT DAY,
634
00:34:04,068 --> 00:34:07,034
HE PLAYS A RECORDING
THAT WILL STARTLE DETECTIVES.
635
00:34:14,827 --> 00:34:19,482
IT SOUNDS LIKE CHRISSY
IS CONFESSING TO A MURDER.
636
00:34:19,482 --> 00:34:22,965
HE LISTENED, AND, YOU KNOW,
HIS EYEBROWS WENT UP.
637
00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:38,137
THE POLICE HAVE THEIR DOUBTS.
638
00:34:38,137 --> 00:34:41,137
IT LED US TO BECOME
A LITTLE MORE SUSPICIOUS,
639
00:34:41,137 --> 00:34:45,758
BUT WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW
IF SHE WAS SAYING THAT STUFF
640
00:34:45,758 --> 00:34:47,310
TO IMPRESS MR. LELAND
641
00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:50,068
OR WHETHER SHE WAS
BEING TRUTHFUL ABOUT IT OR NOT.
642
00:34:53,827 --> 00:34:57,172
ALSO, THE RECORDING WAS CLEARLY
MADE WITHOUT CHRISSY'S KNOWLEDGE
643
00:34:57,172 --> 00:34:59,172
OR ANY KIND OF POLICE WARRANT.
644
00:34:59,172 --> 00:35:01,689
IT WOULD BE
INADMISSIBLE IN COURT.
645
00:35:02,931 --> 00:35:07,206
POLICE WILL NEED MORE EVIDENCE
TO SHOW THAT THIS ACCIDENT
646
00:35:07,206 --> 00:35:10,413
WAS ACTUALLY
PREMEDITATED MURDER,
647
00:35:10,413 --> 00:35:14,827
AND THEY'RE ABOUT
TO GET EXACTLY THAT.
648
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:27,413
OH, AND HERE'S ANOTHER GOOD ONE
FOR ALL YOU NEW YORKERS.
649
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"AN AGING HIT MAN
ONCE USED
650
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AS AN ENFORCER BY
MOB BOSS JOHN GOTTI
651
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HAS BEEN SENTENCED TO
LIFE IN PRISON FOR FOUR
COLD-BLOODED KILLINGS."
652
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NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT
SUPPOSED TO EDITORIALIZE
IN THE NEWSPAPER.
653
00:35:38,103 --> 00:35:39,655
HOW IS IT "COLD-BLOODED"?
654
00:35:39,655 --> 00:35:41,827
AND, YOU KNOW, ISN'T
EVERY KILLING COLD-BLOODED?
655
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AS FAR AS I KNOW. YEAH.
656
00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:45,310
WHEN STEVE MERRILL
TAPED THIS SHOW,
657
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HE HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING
HIS FRIEND, CHARLIE BILLIS,
658
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WOULD BE DEAD
IN LESS THAN AN HOUR--
659
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THE APPARENT VICTIM
OF A CAR ACCIDENT.
660
00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:55,413
LOOKING BACK ON IT NOW,
661
00:35:55,413 --> 00:35:58,551
I BELIEVE I SHOOK HIS HAND
AND SAID,
662
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"HAVE A GOOD ONE. WE'LL DO
THIS AGAIN NEXT WEEK," YOU KNOW?
663
00:36:01,068 --> 00:36:03,827
BUT 18 MONTHS LATER,
HIS WIDOW, CHRISSY,
664
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SEEMS TO ADMIT TO
HER NEW BOYFRIEND, KEVIN LELAND,
665
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THE CRASH WAS INTENTIONAL.
666
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VERMONT STATE POLICE NEED
TO GET SOLID PROOF
667
00:36:24,344 --> 00:36:28,034
AS TO WHAT HER INTENTIONS WERE.
668
00:36:31,103 --> 00:36:34,724
DETECTIVE ANNIS DECIDES
THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT
669
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IS TO GO TO THE SOURCE.
670
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ON APRIL 25, 2011,
HE PAYS CHRISSY A VISIT
671
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AND CAPTURES THEIR
WHOLE DISCUSSION ON TAPE.
672
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SHE WAS UNDER
THE ASSUMPTION THAT
673
00:36:47,758 --> 00:36:50,965
I WAS THERE TO SPEAK
ABOUT THE INSURANCE CLAIM.
674
00:36:50,965 --> 00:36:53,034
CHRISSY HAS BEEN
TRYING TO CASH IN
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ON CHARLIE'S $100,000
CAR INSURANCE POLICY.
676
00:36:56,862 --> 00:36:59,896
IT'S A FAIR CHUNK OF CHANGE
FOR SOMEONE
677
00:36:59,896 --> 00:37:02,551
WHO'S HAD TO GET BY
ON SO LITTLE.
678
00:37:07,206 --> 00:37:09,448
AND I WAS LIKE,
"WELL, WHY?"
679
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BECAUSE, I MEAN,
I'VE HAD CAR CLAIMS BEFORE...
680
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AS WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT
THE INSURANCE CLAIM,
681
00:37:21,241 --> 00:37:22,965
I THEN KIND OF CHANGED GEARS.
682
00:37:22,965 --> 00:37:25,482
AND SO IS THERE
MAYBE A CHANCE THAT
683
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YOU'RE DRIVING HOME
AND HE PISSES YOU OFF...
684
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BUT THE MORE
DETECTIVE ANNIS PRESSES IN
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ON WHAT SHE WAS
THINKING THAT DAY,
686
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THE MORE CHRISSY TRIES
TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
687
00:38:04,344 --> 00:38:08,172
DETECTIVE ANNIS IS IN NO MOOD
FOR SMALL TALK.
688
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HE COMES RIGHT OUT WITH IT.
689
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ARE YOU SURE?
YEAH.
690
00:38:35,551 --> 00:38:38,793
CHRISSY HAS BEEN
CAUGHT IN A LIE.
691
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POLICE DO HAVE PROOF
THAT SHE TOLD SOMEONE
692
00:38:42,103 --> 00:38:44,551
SHE CRASHED THE CAR
ON PURPOSE.
693
00:38:44,551 --> 00:38:46,310
DO I NEED A LAWYER?
694
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:48,206
THAT IS UP TO YOU.
695
00:38:48,206 --> 00:38:49,931
CHRISSY STARTS TO CRACK,
696
00:38:49,931 --> 00:38:52,655
AND THE CONVERSATION
CONTINUES OUTSIDE,
697
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AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN.
698
00:38:55,068 --> 00:38:57,689
FIRST, I NEED TO KNOW
THAT I HAVE VISITATION RIGHTS
699
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TO THE KIDS.
700
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CAN YOU PROMISE ME THAT?
701
00:39:12,448 --> 00:39:16,586
DURING THAT CONVERSATION,
SHE BASICALLY CONFESSED
702
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THAT SHE'D CRASHED THE VEHICLE INTENTIONALLY,
703
00:39:19,517 --> 00:39:22,413
WHICH LED TO THE DEATH
OF CHARLES BILLIS.
704
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SURE, HONEY,
I TOLD YOU BEFORE, OKAY?
705
00:39:44,379 --> 00:39:46,206
I'M GETTING THE MONEY
FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
706
00:39:49,068 --> 00:39:50,827
ARE YOU EVER
GONNA GET A JOB?
707
00:39:50,827 --> 00:39:52,655
GET OFF MY BACK!
WE'RE FINE!
708
00:39:54,793 --> 00:39:56,137
WE'RE NOT FINE.
709
00:39:56,137 --> 00:39:57,896
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?JUST SHUT UP.
710
00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,241
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
BE QUITTING.
711
00:39:59,241 --> 00:40:00,517
YEAH?
712
00:40:00,517 --> 00:40:02,344
WELL, IT PISSES YOU OFF!
713
00:40:02,344 --> 00:40:04,206
I CANNOT LIVE WITH
THE SMOKE IN THE CAR!
714
00:40:04,206 --> 00:40:06,206
LOOK WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING!GOD, JUST SHUT UP.
715
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
716
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,655
- WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
- SHUT UP!
717
00:40:59,344 --> 00:41:02,206
CHRISSY BILLIS IS CHARGED
WITH THE FIRST-DEGREE MURDER
718
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OF HER HUSBAND, CHARLIE BILLIS.
719
00:41:04,689 --> 00:41:08,517
BUT THE PROSECUTOR'S ONLY
REAL PROOF ARE HER CONFESSIONS.
720
00:41:08,517 --> 00:41:12,862
SO BEFORE SHE CAN RECANT,
THEY OFFER HER A DEAL.
721
00:41:12,862 --> 00:41:18,068
IN JULY OF 2012, CHRISSY
PLEADS GUILTY TO MANSLAUGHTER
722
00:41:18,068 --> 00:41:21,586
AND IS SENTENCED
TO 15 YEARS IN PRISON.
723
00:41:23,551 --> 00:41:27,206
CHRISSY'S CLAIMS OF MENTAL ABUSE
AT THE HANDS OF CHARLIE
724
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ARE NEVER PROVEN.
725
00:41:31,931 --> 00:41:35,103
I JUST REMEMBER HER
IN THE COURTROOM.
726
00:41:35,103 --> 00:41:38,931
IN MY MIND, IT WAS LIKE,
"OKAY, FIRST, I LOST MY DAD,
727
00:41:38,931 --> 00:41:41,827
AND NOW I'M GONNA LOSE MY MOM."
728
00:41:41,827 --> 00:41:44,689
THAT WAS JUST SO CRAZY TO ME.
729
00:41:44,689 --> 00:41:47,862
IT WAS JUST REALLY
OVERWHELMING, FOR SURE.
730
00:41:55,586 --> 00:42:00,241
STEVE MERRILL IS STILL MAKING
KOOKY PUBLIC ACCESS SHOWS
731
00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:03,965
OVER AT NEK-TV STUDIOS.
732
00:42:03,965 --> 00:42:06,724
IT'S JUST INCOMPREHENSIBLE
TO ME, YOU KNOW,
733
00:42:06,724 --> 00:42:10,758
LOOKING BACK ON IT NOW,
THAT WE'RE DOING THIS SHOW,
734
00:42:10,758 --> 00:42:13,827
AND THEN NOT AN HOUR LATER,
HE'D BE DEAD.
735
00:42:15,172 --> 00:42:17,655
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE, BUT YOU
NEVER THINK IT'S GONNA BE
736
00:42:17,655 --> 00:42:19,724
AT THE HAND OF YOUR OWN SPOUSE.
737
00:42:19,724 --> 00:42:21,517
MAN, WE'RE REALLY
MOVING TODAY, HUH?
738
00:42:21,517 --> 00:42:25,310
I MEAN, WHAT PART OF "THOU SHALT
NOT KILL" DON'T YOU GET?
739
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:28,241
THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK'S
EPISODE OF "IT'S NEWS TO US."
740
00:42:28,241 --> 00:42:31,344
AND REMEMBER, WHEN
THE NEWS BREAKS, WE FIX IT.
741
00:42:31,344 --> 00:42:33,068
ABSOLUTELY.
GET THE DUCT TAPE OUT.
742
00:42:33,068 --> 00:42:34,413
THANK YOU.
743
00:42:34,413 --> 00:42:35,413
SEE YOU LATER.
744
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BYE!
59437
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