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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,831 --> 00:00:21,460 Eloy de la Iglesia was absolutely an extraordinary director. 2 00:00:21,669 --> 00:00:25,381 And by saying this, I am not saying he was great, or brilliant, 3 00:00:25,548 --> 00:00:30,010 or a genius, I mean extraordinary in the most literal sense of that word. 4 00:00:30,302 --> 00:00:32,179 He came out of the blue. 5 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,432 His family was from the north of Spain, 6 00:00:35,641 --> 00:00:37,101 called Basque Country. 7 00:00:37,434 --> 00:00:40,771 He studied film and philosophy in Madrid. 8 00:00:42,022 --> 00:00:45,025 And he made an impact with his first movie. 9 00:00:45,568 --> 00:00:49,905 The most crazy and unusual thing is that Eloy de la Iglesia started 10 00:00:50,155 --> 00:00:56,120 his movie career with a family movie, FANTASY 3 (1966). 11 00:00:56,287 --> 00:00:59,415 That was the title because it had 3 episodes. 12 00:01:00,207 --> 00:01:04,837 This is not too surprising because at the end of the 60s, there were 13 00:01:05,045 --> 00:01:09,717 very important grants in Spain for family movies. 14 00:01:10,009 --> 00:01:14,263 So significant that they covered almost all the budget for the film. 15 00:01:14,471 --> 00:01:20,311 So many Spanish directors started that way at that time, making family movies. 16 00:01:20,936 --> 00:01:26,358 But Eloy de la Iglesia's second film really revealed the way he is and was. 17 00:01:26,525 --> 00:01:31,113 Titled ALGO AMARGO EN LA BOCA (1969), it was a psychological drama ancl 18 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,448 a rugged, tough film. 19 00:01:32,781 --> 00:01:38,621 Eloy de la Iglesia's movie style was defined 20 00:01:38,954 --> 00:01:40,789 from his second movie. 21 00:01:46,503 --> 00:01:51,133 THE CANNIBAL MAN was born with the intention to make 22 00:01:51,342 --> 00:01:54,011 the most shocking film ever in Spanish cinema. 23 00:01:54,261 --> 00:01:58,307 With a purpose of political ancl social criticism, 24 00:01:58,724 --> 00:02:03,270 including the homosexual element in a determinative way. 25 00:02:04,021 --> 00:02:07,316 Back in the clay, censorship was a huge deal in Spanish cinema. 26 00:02:07,858 --> 00:02:11,654 The movie was filmed in a very unusual way. 27 00:02:11,862 --> 00:02:19,203 They started to film without the proper permit for 3 weeks. 28 00:02:19,411 --> 00:02:22,081 Then they had to get the permit. 29 00:02:22,456 --> 00:02:24,416 But when they went to get the permit, they requested it based on 30 00:02:24,583 --> 00:02:27,169 the script they were filming, and of course it got denied. 31 00:02:28,045 --> 00:02:30,756 They asked, "What do we do now?" They suspended the filming. 32 00:02:31,173 --> 00:02:36,095 They had to rewrite the script, and based on that much lighter script 33 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,806 they resumed production. 34 00:02:39,598 --> 00:02:41,058 Total madness! 35 00:02:41,475 --> 00:02:46,855 But the censors didn't want the first version of the script to be made 36 00:02:47,022 --> 00:02:50,484 because it was too excessively shocking 37 00:02:50,651 --> 00:02:51,944 and harsh for that time. 38 00:02:57,950 --> 00:02:59,785 It's a logical question. 39 00:02:59,952 --> 00:03:04,581 How they dared to make a very harsh and transgressive movie, 40 00:03:04,748 --> 00:03:07,459 knowing how hard censorship was? 41 00:03:07,876 --> 00:03:10,295 It happened that the director, Eloy de la Iglesia, 42 00:03:10,462 --> 00:03:16,468 had a big commercial success with a sexy thriller a year before, 43 00:03:16,635 --> 00:03:19,555 titled THE GLASS CEILING. 44 00:03:19,763 --> 00:03:21,014 That encouraged him! 45 00:03:21,306 --> 00:03:23,726 On the other side, the male protagonist was Vicente Parra. 46 00:03:24,059 --> 00:03:27,146 He was a very popular actor and very much in demand. 47 00:03:27,146 --> 00:03:31,942 He was very loved and had the image of a handsome, sweet guy, 48 00:03:32,151 --> 00:03:34,820 because he always starred in comedies and dramas. 49 00:03:35,154 --> 00:03:37,531 So he was very enthusiastic to be involved in the project 50 00:03:37,948 --> 00:03:39,908 also as an associate producer. 51 00:03:40,075 --> 00:03:42,828 He risked his own money because he wanted to make 52 00:03:42,995 --> 00:03:46,999 a completely different movie from all of his previous work. 53 00:03:47,416 --> 00:03:51,295 So thanks to those two things, 54 00:03:51,628 --> 00:03:55,048 they were motivated to make a really shocking movie. 55 00:03:55,549 --> 00:03:59,428 The first problem with the script that affected the movie 56 00:03:59,595 --> 00:04:02,139 with the censorship, was Eloy de la Iglesia 57 00:04:02,139 --> 00:04:05,559 wanted the lead roles to be around 18 or 19 years old. 58 00:04:05,809 --> 00:04:09,188 Both the killer and the rich neighbor, 59 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,774 but the censors wouldn't allow it. 60 00:04:12,107 --> 00:04:14,902 The homosexual situation was very clear. 61 00:04:15,235 --> 00:04:19,031 The censors would allow homosexual tendencies between both characters 62 00:04:19,239 --> 00:04:23,535 only if they were mature, but not if they were teenagers. 63 00:04:23,702 --> 00:04:25,287 That wasn't going to happen, 64 00:04:25,621 --> 00:04:28,791 so they changed it ancl made the characters older, 65 00:04:28,999 --> 00:04:33,462 for one thing. And for another thing, they didn't accept the ending at all. 66 00:04:33,629 --> 00:04:34,880 It was an open ending, 67 00:04:35,047 --> 00:04:37,758 where you didn't know what happened to the killer. 68 00:04:38,467 --> 00:04:42,387 So they imposed an ending where the killer, over the course 69 00:04:42,554 --> 00:04:49,728 of one week, kills a person per clay, and decides to turn himself into the police. 70 00:04:50,103 --> 00:04:52,397 That was imposed by the censors. 71 00:04:53,482 --> 00:04:56,777 At that time, censorship in Spanish cinema had two phases. 72 00:04:56,985 --> 00:04:59,029 The first phase was the script, 73 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,448 ancl the second phase was when the movie was finished, 74 00:05:01,615 --> 00:05:02,574 the imagery. 75 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,870 I mentioned earlier the biggest inconveniences 76 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:12,543 for the script, but then when the movie was finished and they watched it, 77 00:05:12,543 --> 00:05:15,003 they raised hell, and they were scandalized. 78 00:05:15,629 --> 00:05:19,758 What happened? The movie broke the record for the most censorship cuts 79 00:05:19,925 --> 00:05:21,134 in the history of our cinema. 80 00:05:21,301 --> 00:05:23,679 62 cuts, no less. 81 00:05:24,221 --> 00:05:27,641 Here a few minutes, there some seconds, here a whole scene... 82 00:05:28,016 --> 00:05:29,685 It was a total massacre! 83 00:05:29,893 --> 00:05:33,939 For example, they shot this oneiric scene of homosexual love 84 00:05:34,147 --> 00:05:35,649 between the two protagonists, 85 00:05:35,858 --> 00:05:38,485 between Eusebio Poncela and Vicente Parra. 86 00:05:39,403 --> 00:05:41,321 They totally suppressed it! 87 00:05:41,655 --> 00:05:46,201 It was an oneiric, poetic, and lyrical scene. With it the director 88 00:05:46,368 --> 00:05:50,330 Eloy de la Iglesia created a clash with all the roughness 89 00:05:50,539 --> 00:05:53,542 and sordidness that everything else had. 90 00:05:54,084 --> 00:05:57,004 And why? Because Eloy de la Iglesia, 91 00:05:57,170 --> 00:06:01,091 Vicente Parra, and Eusebio Poncela were gay. 92 00:06:01,884 --> 00:06:03,176 So what does this mean? 93 00:06:03,343 --> 00:06:07,598 To them that scene had a meaning of power and reaffirmation of their 94 00:06:07,598 --> 00:06:12,352 personal sexual orientation, ancl at that time it was absolutely transgressive. 95 00:06:22,654 --> 00:06:26,199 The fact that Vicente Parra dared to take this unusual role 96 00:06:26,408 --> 00:06:34,249 in his career, playing an insane and possibly gay proletariat, 97 00:06:35,208 --> 00:06:38,503 really benefited him in terms of the industry. 98 00:06:38,712 --> 00:06:42,215 Why? Because they gave him an award for the best actor of 99 00:06:42,382 --> 00:06:44,718 the Cinema Writers Circle. 100 00:06:44,885 --> 00:06:48,472 Those were very important awards, which means Vicente Parra 101 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:52,851 proved that he was able to play different kinds of characters. 102 00:06:53,101 --> 00:06:55,812 Even when the movie wasn't a commercial success in his career, 103 00:06:55,979 --> 00:07:01,485 this personal achievement was especially valued. 104 00:07:16,792 --> 00:07:19,878 This movie also introduced Eusebio Poncela. 105 00:07:20,045 --> 00:07:25,634 Poncela is an important and personal actor from his generation. 106 00:07:25,801 --> 00:07:30,347 Distinguished by his participation in unusual, 107 00:07:30,514 --> 00:07:35,185 different and unconventional movies, he also believed in working 108 00:07:35,394 --> 00:07:39,815 with young people, new people, and even with debutants. 109 00:07:41,358 --> 00:07:45,988 All the problems with THE CANNIBAL MAN didn't affect the friendship between 110 00:07:46,196 --> 00:07:49,950 the director Eloy de la Iglesia and the actor Vicente Parra. 111 00:07:50,117 --> 00:07:56,748 They were such good friends that they made another film together, 112 00:07:57,124 --> 00:07:58,250 NO ONE HEARD THE SCREAM (1973). 113 00:07:58,417 --> 00:08:03,255 It was a very interesting thriller and very different than THE CANNIBAL MAN. 114 00:08:03,463 --> 00:08:07,968 It doesn't have the sleaziness, but it does strive for 115 00:08:08,135 --> 00:08:10,137 an elegant and cosmopolitan look. 116 00:08:10,595 --> 00:08:15,225 NO ONE HEARD THE SCREAM also marked another important point 117 00:08:15,642 --> 00:08:18,812 in Eloy de la Iglesia's career, in that he again cast 118 00:08:19,062 --> 00:08:23,942 the actress from the movie that he'd made before CANNIBAL MAN, 119 00:08:24,359 --> 00:08:27,988 Carmen Sevilla, and she was a diva of Spanish Cinema. 120 00:08:28,864 --> 00:08:34,286 In the GLASS CEILING, she did the same thing that Vicente Parra 121 00:08:34,453 --> 00:08:38,540 did in THE CANNIBAL MAN, she broke her image, 122 00:08:38,749 --> 00:08:43,003 the sweet and cloying persona that she had in the movies as a folk actress, 123 00:08:43,295 --> 00:08:48,675 and reinvented herself as a sensual, mysterious, and disturbed woman. 124 00:08:48,925 --> 00:08:54,598 She did great, and she participated with excitement. 125 00:08:54,765 --> 00:09:01,396 Doing a different film with a young, gay, communist director... how interesting! 126 00:09:02,355 --> 00:09:07,944 Eloy de la Iglesia was a very different and transgressive director. 127 00:09:08,403 --> 00:09:14,117 At the beginning of his career, even big Spanish movie stars with contrary 128 00:09:14,451 --> 00:09:18,288 political views wanted to work with him, and were delighted to do so. 129 00:09:18,538 --> 00:09:22,959 In the case of Carmen Sevilla, she was a Folk diva from Francoism. 130 00:09:23,251 --> 00:09:27,172 And even Vicente Parra himself and Eloy de la Iglesia 131 00:09:27,339 --> 00:09:31,760 had a great relationship, even though one was a communist 132 00:09:31,927 --> 00:09:33,303 and the other was a right winger. 133 00:09:33,678 --> 00:09:37,432 I don't know, maybe they got along well because they were both gay. 134 00:09:40,185 --> 00:09:45,440 I want to highlight that this is not a movie in the serial killer genre. 135 00:09:45,816 --> 00:09:47,651 It's not a slasher at all. 136 00:09:48,193 --> 00:09:51,363 The lead role is not a criminal psychopath who kills 137 00:09:51,613 --> 00:09:55,617 due to obsession, addiction, or sadism at all. 138 00:09:55,909 --> 00:10:04,334 The protagonist is a proletariat, not too smart, an uneducated man who has a sad life. 139 00:10:04,501 --> 00:10:11,633 He's sleazy and miserable, and kills someone by mistake. 140 00:10:11,842 --> 00:10:16,346 And in order to cover up that initial crime, he must kill other people. 141 00:10:16,638 --> 00:10:17,597 That's it. 142 00:10:17,889 --> 00:10:22,602 And these people, which is also one of the main points of the movie, 143 00:10:22,894 --> 00:10:27,149 represent all the repression he has. 144 00:10:27,482 --> 00:10:30,026 Sexual repression, family repression, 145 00:10:30,277 --> 00:10:32,946 social repression, financial repression, 146 00:10:33,321 --> 00:10:35,240 and even political repression. 147 00:10:39,494 --> 00:10:43,165 The three essential ingredients of CANNIBAL MAN are 148 00:10:43,331 --> 00:10:47,961 the social criticism, the homosexual vindication, 149 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:53,967 and the extreme sleaziness, but all that magnifies and marks 150 00:10:54,217 --> 00:10:57,470 a fourth element, that is the documentary quality. 151 00:10:57,804 --> 00:11:02,851 This is a film that reflects in a physical way how Madrid 152 00:11:03,018 --> 00:11:05,896 was at that time, and in this sense we need 153 00:11:06,062 --> 00:11:08,690 to recognize the set decoration director Santiago Ontafion. 154 00:11:08,857 --> 00:11:14,279 Santiago Ontafion was truly a genius. A prolific man who was friends with Lorca. 155 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:16,364 They worked together in the 1930s. 156 00:11:16,615 --> 00:11:21,036 He had all kinds of phases, but here he does brilliant work. 157 00:11:21,286 --> 00:11:23,914 For example, the rural house where the protagonist lives, 158 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,584 the interiors, all the sets, and decorations. 159 00:11:27,918 --> 00:11:32,130 It's a total masterpiece in the art direction of cinema. 160 00:11:32,964 --> 00:11:38,386 The Director of Photography for THE CANNIBAL MAN was also a very interesting man, 161 00:11:38,553 --> 00:11:41,681 Raul Artigot, a very sensitive man. 162 00:11:41,848 --> 00:11:45,685 He also got to direct. He made three movies as a director. 163 00:11:46,061 --> 00:11:52,317 He was a versatile man and very good at his job. 164 00:11:52,525 --> 00:11:57,447 He lost himself, but in his case, it was alcohol. 165 00:11:57,614 --> 00:12:04,871 He turned into an alcoholic, and people stopped calling him. 166 00:12:05,038 --> 00:12:06,331 His career ended up very sad. 167 00:12:06,498 --> 00:12:08,875 He was also a writer, a multi-talented man, 168 00:12:09,042 --> 00:12:12,462 Raul Artigot. But he lost it to the alcohol. 169 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,017 Due to all the censorship problems and shooting conflicts, etc., 170 00:12:26,643 --> 00:12:28,645 the film premiere was delayed. 171 00:12:28,853 --> 00:12:34,109 It took two years to premiere, and by the time the movie was out, 172 00:12:34,276 --> 00:12:36,945 nothing happened. No success. 173 00:12:37,112 --> 00:12:45,578 No noise, although a few lucid critics favored it. They didn't say it was 174 00:12:45,745 --> 00:12:50,500 marvellous, but they highlighted that it was an unusual film, 175 00:12:50,750 --> 00:12:54,462 and that it was like no previous Spanish film. 176 00:12:54,629 --> 00:13:02,095 Over time it became a cult film inside and outside Spain, but in a 177 00:13:02,262 --> 00:13:09,894 misconstrued way, in a false way, because it started being sold as a "Video Nasty." 178 00:13:10,061 --> 00:13:15,775 It started to get the reputation of a sleazy, violent, nasty film, 179 00:13:16,067 --> 00:13:17,694 when it's not like that at all. 180 00:13:17,902 --> 00:13:24,909 It is a sleazy drama, a critical film, where violence has a meaning, 181 00:13:25,076 --> 00:13:27,579 more than a cheap spectacle. 182 00:13:27,954 --> 00:13:31,833 It's a severe expression of dramatic violence. 183 00:13:38,590 --> 00:13:47,265 He went for a sleazy style, showing a series of perspectives and realities 184 00:13:47,932 --> 00:13:52,520 that weren't shown by any Spanish director before. 185 00:13:53,313 --> 00:13:55,565 I knew Eloy de la Iglesia well. 186 00:13:55,732 --> 00:14:01,446 I was even a part of the tribute that was held at the San Sebastian festival in the 90s. 187 00:14:01,821 --> 00:14:06,242 I'm also one of the five authors of a book about him. 188 00:14:06,993 --> 00:14:12,040 Eloy de la Iglesia was an educated man, ancl highly intelligent. 189 00:14:12,624 --> 00:14:18,963 To the point where he always justified the stupidest things, and the biggest barbarities, 190 00:14:19,130 --> 00:14:23,426 his most personal insanities, with such brilliance that 191 00:14:23,676 --> 00:14:26,388 he would convince you to believe him! 192 00:14:27,097 --> 00:14:30,058 In that sense, he had a fabulous skill. 193 00:14:30,266 --> 00:14:32,268 He was very well spoken. 194 00:14:32,936 --> 00:14:34,938 When Eloy de La Iglesia was young and started 195 00:14:35,105 --> 00:14:38,274 doing movies, he become famous right away. 196 00:14:38,441 --> 00:14:43,238 Not only for his fascination with those sleazy and strange stories, 197 00:14:43,655 --> 00:14:46,324 but for his political views as a communist, 198 00:14:46,533 --> 00:14:48,701 of course, at that time it was clandestine, 199 00:14:49,536 --> 00:14:57,127 and for his homosexual orientation, which he didn't hide. 200 00:14:57,293 --> 00:15:00,046 He was addressing guys all the time, 201 00:15:00,046 --> 00:15:03,049 even minors from bad neighborhoods. 202 00:15:03,425 --> 00:15:06,094 The more uneducated, the more rough and the more rude, 203 00:15:06,302 --> 00:15:07,595 the more attraction he felt. 204 00:15:07,804 --> 00:15:11,766 In that sense, Eloy de la Iglesia was like Pasolini. 205 00:15:12,809 --> 00:15:16,354 His big problem was that he had a drug addiction. 206 00:15:16,563 --> 00:15:19,899 He was engaging with different kinds of drugs 207 00:15:20,066 --> 00:15:25,321 until he got really bad, and then he disappeared. 208 00:15:25,488 --> 00:15:27,949 Nobody knew anything about him. 209 00:15:28,116 --> 00:15:32,120 Everyone thought he'd died in a very obscure and sleazy way, 210 00:15:32,662 --> 00:15:37,250 but then he appeared selling Kleenex at a traffic light. 211 00:15:38,251 --> 00:15:42,547 S0 an old acquaintance saw him and said, "Eloy, get in the car." 212 00:15:42,964 --> 00:15:48,344 And some friends paid for his rehab treatment and a room 213 00:15:48,511 --> 00:15:54,642 in the gothic old part of Madrid, near the Plaza Mayor. 214 00:15:55,310 --> 00:15:56,769 So he got better. 215 00:15:57,270 --> 00:16:01,065 Diego Galan found out, and the people from San Sebastian festival, 216 00:16:01,274 --> 00:16:03,860 and a resurrection was prepared 217 00:16:04,402 --> 00:16:06,321 with that tribute and book. 218 00:16:06,696 --> 00:16:10,158 Thanks to this resurrection, he was able to make another movie, 219 00:16:10,533 --> 00:16:12,410 but he died shortly after that. 220 00:16:12,660 --> 00:16:16,414 He couldn't get past all the damage that the drugs had caused 221 00:16:16,581 --> 00:16:19,542 over all that time, and he died young. 222 00:16:19,709 --> 00:16:22,170 He was around 62 or 63 years old. 223 00:16:22,504 --> 00:16:24,672 Whether one likes him as a person or not, 224 00:16:24,881 --> 00:16:27,342 what can't be denied is that Eloy de la Iglesia 225 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:31,888 had two important virtues of a filmmaker: 226 00:16:32,597 --> 00:16:38,186 his own unique personality and talent for the movies. 227 00:16:38,895 --> 00:16:42,106 Ultimately, he can be liked more or less for what he did. 228 00:16:42,607 --> 00:16:46,444 I believe in his career, even if he didn't make a 'perfect' movie, 229 00:16:46,736 --> 00:16:50,949 he made many very interesting movies, and he was a very prolific filmmaker. 230 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:54,994 Like I said before, Eloy de la Iglesia was a good person 231 00:16:55,161 --> 00:16:57,288 with personality and talent. 232 00:16:57,997 --> 00:17:01,209 I met him, spent time with him, and wrote a book about him. 233 00:17:01,709 --> 00:17:07,799 I'm satisfied that he is now turning into a worldwide cult figure. 234 00:17:08,424 --> 00:17:13,930 He really deserved it, and he dared to do all that. 235 00:17:14,347 --> 00:17:18,059 He had more success than any other director of his generation. 21393

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