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( Wagnerian orchestral
music plays )
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Dispatcher:
Brown and Walker, bring
the train out from 16 track.
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* If you're feeling all right,
and you think you're on *
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* Somebody let me know *
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* Everybody in the place put
a whistle in your face *
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* Scream it out and say,
yol Hit itl *
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* You don't stop
the rocking rhythm that makes
your fingers pop *
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* I said hip-hop, now,
thanks a lot *
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* Come on, everybody,
give me what you got *
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* I'm going
to tell you a little story
about the Sugar Hill Gang *
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* With the pow-pow boogie,
the big bang-bang. *
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Narrator:
They call themselves "writers"
because that's what they do.
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They write their names,
among other things,
everywhere--
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names they've been given
or have chosen for themselves.
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Most of all,
they write in and on
subway trains
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which carry their names
from one end of the city
to the other.
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It's called, "bombing, "
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and it has equally assertive
counterparts
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in rap music
and break dancing.
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* Scream it out and say,
"I aml" *
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* I aml *
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- * Somebodyl *
- * Somebodyl *
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Graffiti writing
in New York is a vocation.
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Its traditions are handed down
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from one youthful generation
to the next.
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To some, it's art.
To most people, however,
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it is a plague
that never ends,
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a symbol that
we've lost control.
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I'm Detective Bernie Jacobs.
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I, in conjunction
with my partner
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Detective Jim McHugh,
are the crime prevention
coordinators
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for the New York City
Transit Police Department.
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Graffiti,
as the name itself,
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is not an art.
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Graffiti is the application
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of a medium to a surface.
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I will show you graffiti,
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such as the letters
on the end
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of that car directly
in back of me.
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Is that an art form?
I don't know.
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I'm not an art crimin--
critic,
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but I can sure as hell
tell you that that's a crime.
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At the Grand Concourse
149th Street station
in the Bronx,
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graffiti writers gather
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at what they call,
"The Writers' Bench. "
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SE3:
They're saying that
the kids run the subways,
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that the system
is out of control,
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that 15- or 16-year-old kids
are running the system
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and that graffiti
is the symbol of that.
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No, I ain't running the system,
I'm bombing the system.
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They're trying to make it look
like graffiti writers break
windows and everything.
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- It ain't like that.
- You know who be doin' that?
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Niggers who be high
when they come from school
are the ones.
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And it's in
the graffiti artists' favor
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to be as cool,
calm and collected
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about putting his art
on the train as he can.
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You know,
he wants to get in
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and get out without even
being noticed,
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except for the work
that's going to come out
to the public,
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you know, that Monday.
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CES:
Yeah, we gotta start to rock
some straight letters.
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- This one came out all right.
- Yeah, that's the first.
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That's about
the third "Skeme" piece
I did this year.
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And that's the Tick-Tack
I did in Gun Hill.
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What did you do
last night, man?
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We did two whole cars.
It was me, Dez and Mean 3.
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And in the first car,
in small letters, it said,
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"All you see is"
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and then big block
silver letters, it said,
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- "Crime in the city, " right?
- It took up the whole car?
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Yeah, it was a whole car,
and it was a scroll-like,
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you know,
one of them scrolls?
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In the next car it was a Skeme
that had a cop character.
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You know, a police nigger
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with a stick, you know,
and a badge--
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Barbara Andalcio:
Society should go down
in the subway and lock them up,
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because they don't have
any business down there.
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It is dangerous down there.
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People that work down there
25 and 30 years...
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have accidents.
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But his contention is
that he's immortal, I guess,
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like most 17-year olds
are immortal, right?
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It's a matter of getting
a tag on each line
and each division.
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You know, it's called,
"going all-city."
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People see your tags in Queens,
Uptown, Downtown-- all over.
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( laughing )
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Really, I can only laugh
to keep from crying,
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because what happens
is that he really--
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I don't really think he knows
how silly that sounds.
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He's going all-city.
I mean, to what end?
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And when I ask him,
he says to me,
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"Well, just so people see it
and they know who I am."
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Nobody knows who he is
and so they see it--
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No, it's not a matter of,
"So they know who I am."
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So they see it.
And after they see it,
so what?
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It's a matter of bombing,
knowing that I can do it.
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Every time I get into a train,
almost every day I see my name.
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I say, "Yeah, you know it.
I was there, I bombed it."
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It's for me.
It's not for nobody else to see.
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I don't care--
I don't care about
nobody else seeing it,
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or the fact
if they can read it or not.
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It's for me
and other graffiti writers,
that we can read it.
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These other people
who don't write,
they're excluded.
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I don't care about them,
you know?
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They don't matter to me.
It's for us.
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Iz the Wiz:
"CC" starboard bowl
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Quik:
Slow it down. Slow it down.
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Min:
What is it? You tell me.
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- Nice and slow.
- Iz: This is itl
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This is itl
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This is itl
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( yelling )
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Here we go!
Here we go!
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This is it!
This is it!
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Give me that towel!
Give me that towel!
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That "Cathy" came out nice.
That y wasn't wack.
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( Quik applauds )
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( starts and stops music )
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rapping and breaking became
the prime expressions
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of a new young people's
subculture called "hip-hop. "
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Graffiti is the written word.
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There is the spoken word
of rap music...
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( rap music playing )
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and then there's
the acrobatic body language
of dances like "breaking. "
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Frosty Freeze:
It started in the Bronx
and part of Harlem.
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It started
in Freeze's house.
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His mom used to break.
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Don't be talking
about my mother, now.
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Just don't talk
about my mother.
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Boy, you're acting
stupid now.
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Breaking is when you don't
have nothing to do,
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everybody just standing around
and getting high.
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You make up your own freezes.
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You got names for them.
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- Like what?
- Like the baby.
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That's the baby.
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A dead freeze, like this.
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Crazy Legs:
That's one of them old,
ancient--
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That ain't one of the old,
'cause I was the first one
to do it.
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How ancient can you get?
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- The one when you go like this?
- It's called the hump.
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- The headache.
- No, that's the headache.
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And the other one
is the hump.
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When you got a headache,
you go like that, you know?
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When you hump,
you go like that.
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Yo, man,
this place is bombed.
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Iz:
This is the transit system.
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They don't like it
to be defaced.
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They will, at times,
try and...
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go to the extreme in trying
to apprehend you.
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The subway system is
a very old one
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and I've personally explored
some tunnels
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and I've found rooms with maps
that were so old,
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might have been like
the first train line that
New York City had.
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Call it what you want,
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it's just a lot of rock,
a lot of steel,'
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it's a tomb, a dungeon,
under the city.
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A lot of trains,
a lot of fun.
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A lot of art.
Art that's going to be
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a part of New York City's
history forever.
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Sach:
Oh, wowl Check it out,
a whole carl
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Check it out, man!
Sach, quick.
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Look at that!
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A lot of writers
have been down here.
You can tell.
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Graffiti all over
the place.
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Years ago,
it was pretty much
a secret.
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It was secretly done.
People wondered and wished
they could do it.
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Now, most people do it.
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When all the toys
are home sleeping...
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cuddling to their pillows.
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They usually have curfews.
Come down...
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in the wee hours
of the night after
the workers done their job,
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the sweepers did the sweeping
they had to do...
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I just take my time
and be creative.
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Dondi:
I think it's something you can
never recapture again
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once you experience it.
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You have, like,
live third rails,
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and like, crazy cops who come
and chase you out.
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Even the smell you get
when you first smell trains
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in a yard, it's like...
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it's a good smell to, like,
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a dedicated graffiti writer,
I guess.
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When you're first against
a train,
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everything seems so big,
like...
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wow! It's like you're
in a yard of metal giants.
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I mean,
everything is so hard,
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and so steel,
you're just there.
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You're like a little dude
in the midst of all this metal,
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and like, you're here
to produce something.
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Well, you're here to try
to produce something.
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Well, I've seen
comparable graffiti.
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Not necessarily
these particular ones.
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Each of these costs us
a million dollars, in a sense,
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because others went out
and tried to copy.
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It isn't worth it.
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Well, it is one
of the quality-of-life offenses.
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And you can't just take one
of those quality-of-life
offenses;
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it's like three-card-monte
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and pickpocketing
and shoplifting
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and graffiti defacing
our public and private walls.
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They're all in the same area
of destroying our lifestyle
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and making it difficult
to enjoy life.
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And I think it has
to be responded to.
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So I've told you the response
that I think a repeater,
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three-time repeater,
should get would be
five days in jail.
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Now, obviously, a murderer,
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if you believe
in the death penalty as I do,
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you want to have the option
of executing a murderer.
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You wouldn't do that
to a graffiti writer.
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Man:
I saw you at work over here
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and I just want to find out
what you're filming.
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Interviewer:
We're making a film on
subway graffiti in New York.
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Why did you take this
particular neighborhood here?
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What's unusual?
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Is there more graffiti here
than other places?
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I hope not.
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We're here because
one of the best
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graffiti writers
lives around here.
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He writes "Seen. "
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- What is it?
- S-E-E-N.
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( "The Wanderer" plays )
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- That's his name?
- Yes, that's what he writes.
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- Or is it a nom de plume?
- It is a nom de plume.
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I see. You wouldn't tell me
his real name?
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- No.
- Why not?
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Would he get in trouble,
or wouldn't he be
glorified by it?
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* Oh, I'm the type of guy
who'll never settle down *
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* Where pretty girls are,
well, you know that
I'm around *
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* I kiss 'em
and I love 'em *
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* 'Cause to me
they're all the same *
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* I hug 'em
and I squeeze 'em *
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* They don't even know
my name *
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* Yeah, I'm a wanderer *
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00:14:17,816 --> 00:14:19,579
* Yeah, I'm a wanderer *
235
00:14:19,652 --> 00:14:22,314
* I roam around, around,
around, around *
236
00:14:22,388 --> 00:14:24,515
* Yeah, go ahead and go *
237
00:14:24,590 --> 00:14:26,558
( saxophone solo plays )
238
00:14:41,106 --> 00:14:43,006
* 'Cause I'm a wanderer *
239
00:14:43,075 --> 00:14:44,667
* Yeah, I'm a wanderer *
240
00:14:44,743 --> 00:14:48,873
* I roam around, around,
around, around, around *
241
00:14:48,948 --> 00:14:50,939
* 'Cause I'm a wanderer *
242
00:14:51,016 --> 00:14:52,677
* Yeah, I'm a wanderer. *
243
00:14:52,751 --> 00:14:55,618
Seen:
All right, there's about four
numerous reasons why...
244
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I ain't painting right now.
245
00:14:58,190 --> 00:15:00,658
To make a long story short,
246
00:15:00,726 --> 00:15:03,422
I'm on what they call
a six-month probation.
247
00:15:03,495 --> 00:15:06,293
I call it a six-month vacation,
never mind probation.
248
00:15:06,365 --> 00:15:08,595
Now they got a graffiti squad
on this line,
249
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which there really was never,
really.
250
00:15:10,703 --> 00:15:13,365
Since they come on this line,
it's been harder to piece.
251
00:15:13,439 --> 00:15:17,136
It ain't like the old days
when the train pulled into
the yard on a Friday night,
252
00:15:17,209 --> 00:15:19,803
that train wouldn't pull out
until Monday morning.
253
00:15:19,878 --> 00:15:21,709
Now, when you go
to piece a train,
254
00:15:21,780 --> 00:15:24,374
you put an outline on the train
and you can say goodbye,
255
00:15:24,450 --> 00:15:26,247
the train pulls out
10 minutes later.
256
00:15:26,318 --> 00:15:28,115
Or, if you're ready to put
an outline,
257
00:15:28,187 --> 00:15:31,645
you gotta chase
the train down the track to put
an outline on the piece.
258
00:15:31,724 --> 00:15:35,182
It just ain't the same anymore.
They don't know what they're
doing no more.
259
00:15:36,895 --> 00:15:39,659
Late, as usual.
260
00:15:39,732 --> 00:15:41,825
But I'm here.
I show up, though.
261
00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:43,697
I show up.
Let me see.
262
00:15:45,237 --> 00:15:48,798
Well, why don't you do this one
on that side of the wall?
263
00:15:48,874 --> 00:15:50,705
- You know
what I'm saying?
- These two?
264
00:15:50,776 --> 00:15:52,801
- No. This one--
- It's going to be crowded.
265
00:15:52,878 --> 00:15:54,436
We're going to have
plenty of room.
266
00:15:54,513 --> 00:15:57,641
- The bottom of the piece?
- The bottom of the piece,
I say, about here.
267
00:15:57,716 --> 00:16:00,048
"The United Artists" will go
a little bit below the top,
268
00:16:00,119 --> 00:16:02,451
'cause you're going
to have it on a wave.
Big letters.
269
00:16:02,521 --> 00:16:05,115
I want you
to start from about here.
Maybe even here.
270
00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:07,351
Start it from here.
Listen to me. From here.
271
00:16:07,426 --> 00:16:09,485
You understand
what I'm saying to you?
272
00:16:09,561 --> 00:16:11,529
( paint spraying )
273
00:16:13,198 --> 00:16:15,496
I still think
it's too big.
274
00:16:19,671 --> 00:16:22,640
Now, your first outline
is needed, always needed.
275
00:16:22,708 --> 00:16:24,801
This way you know
what you're filling in.
276
00:16:24,877 --> 00:16:27,209
No matter how good you are,
you can't just go on in
277
00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,144
and just start filling in--
in the air.
278
00:16:29,214 --> 00:16:31,011
You've got to have
your first outline.
279
00:16:31,083 --> 00:16:33,449
Once your first outline
is done, then your fill-in,
280
00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:35,180
that takes away
your first outline.
281
00:16:35,254 --> 00:16:37,984
You don't need
your first because
now you got your fill-in.
282
00:16:38,057 --> 00:16:40,992
From your fill-in,
you put your colors
and then your 3-D.
283
00:16:41,060 --> 00:16:43,528
If you want background,
you put your cloud or whatever.
284
00:16:45,064 --> 00:16:47,430
How's this, Nick?
I'm throwing a few
connections here.
285
00:16:47,499 --> 00:16:49,296
I'm going to make it
look like yours.
286
00:16:51,003 --> 00:16:53,631
What do you think?
I'll make a few bits.
287
00:16:57,009 --> 00:16:58,476
All right. Huh?
288
00:16:59,845 --> 00:17:03,281
Bits. Bits. I don't know.
Little doodads here and there.
289
00:17:03,348 --> 00:17:05,282
Yeah, now it's shaping up.
290
00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:07,750
I have about a hundred outlines,
but I've shaped it up.
291
00:17:07,820 --> 00:17:09,788
Nicky, Nicky, come onl
292
00:17:09,855 --> 00:17:11,789
You gonna save me room
or what?
293
00:17:11,857 --> 00:17:14,621
I didn't do that to yours.
Get out of there! Go on!
294
00:17:14,693 --> 00:17:16,752
Woman:
He's making a mess
in this house.
295
00:17:17,362 --> 00:17:20,627
He cannot sit down without,
296
00:17:20,699 --> 00:17:22,792
you know, doing graffiti
on something.
297
00:17:22,868 --> 00:17:24,733
- All right--
- He really can't.
298
00:17:24,803 --> 00:17:26,600
When you're talking
on the phone,
299
00:17:26,672 --> 00:17:28,139
you don't doodle
on the paper?
300
00:17:28,207 --> 00:17:29,970
- I don't doodle.
- Yes, you do.
301
00:17:30,042 --> 00:17:33,307
- I do not doodle.
- You do doodle on the paper.
302
00:17:33,378 --> 00:17:36,347
I just write my name
while I'm talking on the phone.
What's that?
303
00:17:36,415 --> 00:17:38,144
I'm just writing something.
304
00:17:38,217 --> 00:17:41,653
You're telling me that
you write your name while
you're talking on the phone.
305
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,315
In the meantime,
you have destroyed
your room.
306
00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:48,086
- You have destroyed your room.
- Testing out my paints.
307
00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,424
You have no respect
for anything.
308
00:17:50,496 --> 00:17:52,555
Don't tell me
about testing out
your paints.
309
00:17:52,631 --> 00:17:55,623
Ain't we putting red,
yellow, or red, orange
and yellow here?
310
00:17:55,701 --> 00:17:57,430
No, the brown's
got to be brown.
311
00:17:57,503 --> 00:18:00,097
I ain't putting
no browns there.
Ain't no way.
312
00:18:00,172 --> 00:18:03,801
Red, orange and yellow.
You want it to stand out.
313
00:18:03,876 --> 00:18:07,607
The whole thing.
Around the whole works--
red, orange, yellow.
314
00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:10,273
Remember how I did
the "Mad Seen" with the wall
315
00:18:10,349 --> 00:18:12,442
and the color went
all around the thing?
316
00:18:12,518 --> 00:18:14,452
The "Mad Seen,"
the one on the 5s?
317
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,286
With the walls all falling down.
The one I did myself.
318
00:18:18,357 --> 00:18:19,790
- No.
- All right.
319
00:18:19,858 --> 00:18:21,553
Let me explain.
320
00:18:21,627 --> 00:18:23,788
Yellow, orange
and a little bit of red--
321
00:18:23,862 --> 00:18:26,524
yellow and orange around
the whole thing and then,
322
00:18:26,598 --> 00:18:30,159
we'll put browns and beiges
in the 3-D. Believe me.
323
00:18:30,235 --> 00:18:32,135
I'll show you.
Not around the fade.
324
00:18:32,204 --> 00:18:34,297
Fade into the yellow,
but a trim over it--
325
00:18:34,373 --> 00:18:36,102
a cheap trim.
I'll show you after.
326
00:18:36,175 --> 00:18:38,302
I'll show you after.
All right?
327
00:18:38,377 --> 00:18:40,402
I'll never
steer you wrong, Nick.
328
00:18:42,948 --> 00:18:45,815
Rustoleum, Krylon,
Wet-Iook,
329
00:18:45,884 --> 00:18:47,579
Epoxy, Red Devil...
330
00:18:47,653 --> 00:18:49,917
When you hold a can
of Rustoleum in your hand,
331
00:18:49,988 --> 00:18:52,582
it's like holding three other
shit brands in your hand.
332
00:18:52,658 --> 00:18:55,024
It lasts, it covers,
333
00:18:55,093 --> 00:18:57,084
and it's not aerosol
like Krylon.
334
00:18:57,162 --> 00:18:59,392
It just comes out in a mist.
This comes out like paint.
335
00:19:00,999 --> 00:19:04,958
Mayor Koch:
The schools have
courses in art.
336
00:19:05,037 --> 00:19:07,870
How about the mothers
and fathers of this city
337
00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:11,034
saying to the kids,
"That's the wrong thing to do"?
338
00:19:11,109 --> 00:19:14,044
You listen to them talk,
they sound ridiculous.
339
00:19:14,112 --> 00:19:16,444
He's king
of the yakkety-yak yard.
340
00:19:16,515 --> 00:19:18,608
Who died and left him king
of any yard?
341
00:19:18,684 --> 00:19:21,619
He owns nothing
in the subway, you know?
342
00:19:21,687 --> 00:19:23,211
( laughs )
343
00:19:23,288 --> 00:19:25,279
I love robbing paint.
344
00:19:25,357 --> 00:19:27,791
I know, you know,
everybody knows how you rob it.
345
00:19:27,859 --> 00:19:30,623
He gets me souped up
and sometimes I'll go and get
346
00:19:30,696 --> 00:19:32,857
15 cans at a time, you know.
347
00:19:32,931 --> 00:19:34,796
Stuffing it in your coat,
in your shirt,
348
00:19:34,866 --> 00:19:37,494
down the back of your pants.
It's mainly with the big coat
349
00:19:37,569 --> 00:19:40,129
and like 15 cans,
350
00:19:40,205 --> 00:19:42,298
you figure it out,
it's like over $50.
351
00:19:42,374 --> 00:19:44,069
You're going into stores--
352
00:19:44,142 --> 00:19:46,702
we could go one day and get
100 cans at a time.
353
00:19:46,778 --> 00:19:49,144
It's easy.
For me, anyway.
354
00:19:49,214 --> 00:19:51,148
It's harder on black kids
355
00:19:51,216 --> 00:19:53,980
or Spanish kids,
'cause everybody thinks
356
00:19:54,052 --> 00:19:56,987
a graffiti writer is black
and Puerto Rican,
357
00:19:57,055 --> 00:19:59,853
and that's, you know,
it's wrong.
358
00:20:01,059 --> 00:20:03,721
A lot of white people
are writin'.
359
00:20:03,795 --> 00:20:08,198
What you've got is
a whole miserable subculture.
360
00:20:09,735 --> 00:20:12,499
Zephyr:
I was raised on the Upper
East Side of Manhattan.
361
00:20:12,571 --> 00:20:16,837
I went to a sort
of strict prep school
in the Bronx, right?
362
00:20:16,908 --> 00:20:19,001
Riverdale Country School.
363
00:20:19,077 --> 00:20:21,170
In attending that school,
364
00:20:21,246 --> 00:20:23,612
I had to walk past
the 1 yard
365
00:20:23,682 --> 00:20:25,980
on 242nd Street
every day.
366
00:20:26,051 --> 00:20:29,680
From where I stood, I'd watch
the trains pull in and out.
367
00:20:29,755 --> 00:20:31,916
I thought,
"How could a human being
368
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:34,015
have his name
on every car?"
369
00:20:34,092 --> 00:20:35,889
You know, that these guys
370
00:20:35,961 --> 00:20:38,759
must either live in there,
be allowed to live in there,
371
00:20:38,830 --> 00:20:40,593
or just be...
372
00:20:40,666 --> 00:20:44,227
allowed to go off
like that, right?
373
00:20:44,303 --> 00:20:47,864
They're trespassing it;
they're beating the system;
374
00:20:47,939 --> 00:20:50,066
they're getting
their names up, right?
375
00:20:51,543 --> 00:20:54,808
We've drenched the city
with our names, right?
376
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,677
We're trying our damndest.
377
00:20:57,249 --> 00:21:00,013
( lengthy instrumental intro )
378
00:21:22,674 --> 00:21:24,437
* Pump, pump, pump me up *
379
00:21:24,509 --> 00:21:26,670
* Like the man
with the super "S"
on his cape *
380
00:21:26,745 --> 00:21:29,009
* Jump through the pump
and do great *
381
00:21:29,081 --> 00:21:31,413
* I'm DJ Rockin'
and I can pass the test *
382
00:21:31,483 --> 00:21:33,348
* Get down rappers
from east to west *
383
00:21:33,418 --> 00:21:35,909
* This party, please,
that party, please *
384
00:21:35,987 --> 00:21:38,046
* I'll pump them
with the greatest of ease *
385
00:21:38,123 --> 00:21:40,353
* This is DJ Rockin'
with the master beat *
386
00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:42,757
* With the boogie and the sound
that moves the feet *
387
00:21:42,828 --> 00:21:44,796
- * Somebody say-- *
- Get upl Get upl
388
00:21:44,863 --> 00:21:46,728
- * Somebody say-- *
- Get upl Get upl
389
00:21:46,798 --> 00:21:49,164
* You party good
you're going down *
390
00:21:49,234 --> 00:21:51,634
* You compliment
this funky sound *
391
00:21:51,703 --> 00:21:53,637
* Pump-pump-pump-pump me upl *
392
00:21:53,705 --> 00:21:55,138
We caught...
393
00:21:55,207 --> 00:21:57,300
a freshly painted...
394
00:21:57,376 --> 00:21:59,310
"Double-R,"
395
00:21:59,378 --> 00:22:01,972
and we spent about
three hours in it.
396
00:22:02,047 --> 00:22:04,311
- That's impossible.
- No, it's not.
397
00:22:04,383 --> 00:22:05,975
We were tagging
with the "Unis,"
398
00:22:06,051 --> 00:22:07,814
then the "Minis,"
then the "Marvies,"
399
00:22:07,886 --> 00:22:09,820
then the "Pilots,"
then the "Flo-pens"
400
00:22:09,888 --> 00:22:11,321
and we were doing clouds
401
00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:13,824
around the tags
and 3-Ds on the tags--
402
00:22:13,892 --> 00:22:16,827
for the Double-Rs,
to have a clean car back then,
403
00:22:16,895 --> 00:22:19,830
it was...
we just had an orgasm.
404
00:22:19,898 --> 00:22:21,525
* Pump-pump-pump me upl *
405
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,830
Narrator:
1970--
406
00:22:23,902 --> 00:22:25,836
the idea of getting
your name up,
407
00:22:25,904 --> 00:22:28,338
not just in your neighborhood,
but everywhere,
408
00:22:28,407 --> 00:22:30,841
was invented by a kid
named Taki,
409
00:22:30,909 --> 00:22:33,901
who lived on 183rd Street
in Washington Heights.
410
00:22:33,979 --> 00:22:36,573
Taki 183.
411
00:22:36,648 --> 00:22:39,446
As soon as everybody understood
that it was a name,
412
00:22:39,518 --> 00:22:42,009
they realized that Taki
was famous.
413
00:22:42,087 --> 00:22:43,679
Wasp:
Taki 183 was the first guy.
414
00:22:43,755 --> 00:22:46,189
Even though they say Julio 204
started before him.
415
00:22:46,258 --> 00:22:48,123
But he was the one
who made it famous.
416
00:22:48,193 --> 00:22:51,162
Then, after him, in them times,
it was Papo 184.
417
00:22:51,229 --> 00:22:53,129
Then came out Junior 161,
418
00:22:53,198 --> 00:22:55,462
Cay 161,
they were bombing, too.
419
00:22:55,534 --> 00:22:58,128
Stitch came out
around 1971.
420
00:22:58,203 --> 00:23:00,034
He was all-city, too.
421
00:23:00,105 --> 00:23:01,663
Barbara, Eva 62,
they were girls.
422
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:03,298
Everybody was writing.
423
00:23:03,375 --> 00:23:05,900
That was what everybody
was talking in them days.
424
00:23:05,977 --> 00:23:08,104
- * Somebody say-- *
- Get upl Get upl
425
00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:10,273
- * Somebody say... *
- Get upl Get upl
426
00:23:10,348 --> 00:23:13,476
I got into graffiti,
just like riding the trains,
when I was younger.
427
00:23:13,552 --> 00:23:16,316
You know, looking at
the old writers' shit, you know?
428
00:23:16,388 --> 00:23:17,980
A lot of new writers around,
429
00:23:18,056 --> 00:23:20,422
you talk to them about a lot
of old writers,
430
00:23:20,492 --> 00:23:22,483
they don't know
what you're talking about.
431
00:23:22,561 --> 00:23:26,327
I started in 1973
or 1974,
432
00:23:26,398 --> 00:23:28,332
during very...
433
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,994
early years...
434
00:23:31,069 --> 00:23:32,832
of initial bombing,
435
00:23:32,904 --> 00:23:34,838
very important years
of graffiti bombing.
436
00:23:34,906 --> 00:23:36,271
If it wasn't
for those years,
437
00:23:36,341 --> 00:23:38,400
I don't think we would
get where we are today.
438
00:23:38,477 --> 00:23:40,741
That was the life back then.
That was happening.
439
00:23:40,812 --> 00:23:43,508
Everybody was pioneering
back then.
440
00:23:43,582 --> 00:23:46,517
That's when all
your developing happened--
your bubble letters,
441
00:23:46,585 --> 00:23:48,849
all that kind of stuff.
Your wild styles.
442
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,888
* Pump-pump-pump-pump me upl *
443
00:23:53,825 --> 00:23:55,554
Crash:
The wild styles.
444
00:23:55,627 --> 00:23:58,596
Noc:
You don't have to do
straight letters to have style.
445
00:24:03,869 --> 00:24:06,565
Anything that comes in
your imagination
446
00:24:06,638 --> 00:24:08,970
adds onto your own
individual style.
447
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,507
The arrow.
448
00:24:12,043 --> 00:24:14,671
Everybody's got
their own arrow.
449
00:24:15,881 --> 00:24:18,008
I like that, though.
450
00:24:22,554 --> 00:24:25,648
Various arrow some guys have
on-the-letter arrow--
451
00:24:25,724 --> 00:24:28,318
that was like connection.
452
00:24:28,393 --> 00:24:31,089
Some people had
different arrows
453
00:24:31,162 --> 00:24:33,096
just going right through
their pieces.
454
00:24:33,164 --> 00:24:35,257
* The funk is here
so you can go groove *
455
00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:37,858
* We want to make
your body move *
456
00:24:37,936 --> 00:24:40,496
* Pump-pump-pump-pump me upl *
457
00:24:41,573 --> 00:24:43,837
Colors, designs, style,
technical advanced...
458
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:45,672
- Get loose.
- Get loose.
459
00:24:45,744 --> 00:24:47,109
Cartoons, everything.
460
00:24:47,178 --> 00:24:49,271
And when they see you got
a vicious style,
461
00:24:49,347 --> 00:24:51,281
they be wanting
to get loose about it,
462
00:24:51,349 --> 00:24:52,941
and that's what keep it going.
463
00:24:53,018 --> 00:24:55,486
- That's what sparks graffiti.
- Keep sparkin' it.
464
00:24:55,554 --> 00:24:58,614
You know, I know a lot
of good writers,
465
00:24:58,690 --> 00:25:00,453
and all the writers
that I knew,
466
00:25:00,525 --> 00:25:02,959
they used to get up,
so they used to tell me,
467
00:25:03,028 --> 00:25:04,620
"Trap, why don't you get up?"
468
00:25:04,696 --> 00:25:06,288
And I started getting up
with them,
469
00:25:06,364 --> 00:25:07,729
we started doing pieces.
470
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:09,733
Then I met Dez--
471
00:25:09,801 --> 00:25:12,634
One day, I came to the Bench
and I seen him sitting there,
472
00:25:12,704 --> 00:25:13,864
looking at the pieces.
473
00:25:13,939 --> 00:25:15,964
You could tell a writer,
you know?
474
00:25:16,041 --> 00:25:17,975
You go to the Bench
and you see him
475
00:25:18,043 --> 00:25:20,978
as the trains go by,
he be going like this,
476
00:25:21,046 --> 00:25:23,139
you know,
he have ink stains
on his clothes.
477
00:25:23,214 --> 00:25:26,115
He gave me outlines
and stuff to practice--
478
00:25:26,184 --> 00:25:28,982
I can't let him go
for at least five minutes,
479
00:25:29,054 --> 00:25:31,249
or he'll destroy the piece.
480
00:25:31,323 --> 00:25:33,484
You know? I turn around,
481
00:25:33,558 --> 00:25:36,322
"Trap, what you doing?
I want to do my own piece."
482
00:25:36,394 --> 00:25:39,192
I said, "Yeah, but, you know,
follow the outline."
483
00:25:41,733 --> 00:25:43,530
Russ, Russ!
484
00:25:46,571 --> 00:25:48,436
What's up, man?
485
00:25:48,506 --> 00:25:50,303
You know it.
Chillin', man!
486
00:25:51,509 --> 00:25:53,875
Slick Rick!
Slick Rick!
487
00:25:53,945 --> 00:25:55,708
And the Acey Base!
488
00:25:57,048 --> 00:25:59,846
For about two and a half years
I was upstate
489
00:25:59,918 --> 00:26:03,115
from like the beginning
of 1970 to '72.
490
00:26:03,188 --> 00:26:05,656
What's up?
Hey, what's up?
491
00:26:07,525 --> 00:26:09,789
When I came home,
I ain't know nothing about
492
00:26:09,861 --> 00:26:12,625
no writing, no graffiti,
'cause I wasn't about it.
493
00:26:12,697 --> 00:26:14,494
All right, you know it.
494
00:26:16,034 --> 00:26:17,501
What's up, man?
495
00:26:19,204 --> 00:26:22,640
So, when I got home,
I seen writing on the train.
496
00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:25,073
I said,
"What's this stuff here?
497
00:26:25,143 --> 00:26:27,304
Those niggers doing
their names big."
498
00:26:27,379 --> 00:26:29,370
Said, "Let me do one
at least."
499
00:26:29,447 --> 00:26:32,143
'Cause I was down
with art already.
500
00:26:32,217 --> 00:26:34,981
And I did me a piece
for people in general
501
00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:36,918
to get to know who I am.
502
00:26:39,057 --> 00:26:42,049
I said,
"Oh, that looks all right.
503
00:26:42,127 --> 00:26:44,095
I'm'a go every Sunday now."
504
00:26:44,162 --> 00:26:47,063
Next thing I know,
I started getting better
and better.
505
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,868
And as I realized,
I knew to get better,
I said, "Oh, man,
506
00:26:52,937 --> 00:26:55,132
I'm going to bring out
the computer rock."
507
00:26:55,206 --> 00:26:57,003
And then that's when
I really got loose,
508
00:26:57,075 --> 00:26:59,976
'cause then niggers was saying,
"Yo, who's that guy?"
509
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,111
Then one day,
these news reporters people
was on train station--
510
00:27:05,183 --> 00:27:06,775
we was going by
and we seen them.
511
00:27:06,851 --> 00:27:09,411
We seen them filming
our whole car.
512
00:27:09,487 --> 00:27:11,614
We went up to them,
and I remember, I said,
513
00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:13,783
"Who you think probably done
that right there?"
514
00:27:13,858 --> 00:27:15,655
Just to be curious
to see what they'd say.
515
00:27:15,727 --> 00:27:17,922
And they say, "I don't know,
but whoever done it,
516
00:27:17,996 --> 00:27:19,361
that's remarkable talent.
517
00:27:19,431 --> 00:27:21,831
I ain't never seen nothing
like this before. "
518
00:27:25,203 --> 00:27:28,001
I said, "If I told you I did it,
would you believe me?"
519
00:27:28,073 --> 00:27:29,665
He say, "I don't know.
I can't say,
520
00:27:29,741 --> 00:27:31,538
but I believe so,
'cause you don't know
521
00:27:31,609 --> 00:27:33,133
what you can believe
these days."
522
00:27:33,211 --> 00:27:34,838
I said, "I did."
And then he said,
523
00:27:34,913 --> 00:27:36,972
"I don't believe that.
You only got one arm."
524
00:27:37,048 --> 00:27:38,640
I said,
"That don't mean nothing.
525
00:27:38,717 --> 00:27:41,652
I do things that people don't
realize I can do with this.
526
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,551
Being that I'm like this,
you know?"
527
00:27:43,621 --> 00:27:45,714
And then he said,
"I hear you there, sonny."
528
00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:47,257
And I say,
"I ain't no sonny.
529
00:27:47,325 --> 00:27:49,259
I just was asking you
a question, sir,
530
00:27:49,327 --> 00:27:52,057
that's all I wanted to know,
to see your feelings about it."
531
00:27:52,797 --> 00:27:53,593
( whistling )
532
00:27:53,665 --> 00:27:56,190
* Do you want to dance? *
533
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:59,261
What's up?
534
00:27:59,337 --> 00:28:01,862
You getting some candy?
535
00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:04,204
Ain't getting nothing?
536
00:28:04,275 --> 00:28:06,539
Gimme some candy, man.
Ain't got no candy?
537
00:28:11,015 --> 00:28:13,848
Hey, Gigolo!
Whatcha know?
538
00:28:13,918 --> 00:28:15,647
Gigolo!
539
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,312
Where that nigger at?
540
00:28:18,857 --> 00:28:20,620
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I can dig it.
541
00:28:20,692 --> 00:28:22,592
We goin'
on the other side, right?
542
00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:23,592
Word.
543
00:28:23,661 --> 00:28:25,629
Wha-wha-wha--
gigolo.
544
00:28:25,697 --> 00:28:28,222
- What happpenin'?
- The Beastmaster.
545
00:28:28,299 --> 00:28:30,062
* Do you want to dance? *
546
00:28:30,135 --> 00:28:32,126
* Are you willing
to take a chance? *
547
00:28:32,203 --> 00:28:34,296
- Look at that eye.
- Word.
548
00:28:34,372 --> 00:28:36,499
Look at that eagle.
Word.
549
00:28:36,574 --> 00:28:39,407
I said look at that eye.
550
00:28:39,477 --> 00:28:41,604
You know where he got
that from, right?
551
00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:45,046
From Vaughn Bode and who?
Frank Frazetta!
552
00:28:45,116 --> 00:28:46,447
The Beastmaster.
553
00:28:46,518 --> 00:28:47,917
The letters
is breakin' out.
554
00:28:47,986 --> 00:28:50,079
"The epic adventures
of a new kind of hero."
555
00:28:50,155 --> 00:28:52,919
That's what we're going to be.
The extraterrestrial brothers.
556
00:28:52,991 --> 00:28:54,925
You know what I'm saying?
Extra terrest!
557
00:28:54,993 --> 00:28:56,927
Knowing we the best.
Know what I'm sayin'?
558
00:28:56,995 --> 00:28:58,963
( train whistle blowing )
559
00:29:01,332 --> 00:29:03,892
* It's a Dezzy Dez
and a Kasey Kase *
560
00:29:03,968 --> 00:29:07,028
* And D-5, we're going
to rock the place *
561
00:29:07,105 --> 00:29:08,868
* And if you're based
in the place *
562
00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:11,272
* You will get disgraced,
because we are the crew *
563
00:29:11,342 --> 00:29:12,604
* That we got the place *
564
00:29:12,677 --> 00:29:15,510
* Rock-sock-it,
rock-it-in-a-pocket *
565
00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:17,810
* A sock-sock-it,
rock-it-in-a-pocket *
566
00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,544
* I say, pushed that girl
in front of the train *
567
00:29:20,618 --> 00:29:22,984
* Took her to the doctor,
sewed her arm on again *
568
00:29:23,054 --> 00:29:25,921
* Stabbed that man
right in his heart *
569
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:28,083
* Gave him a transplant
for a brand new start *
570
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:29,683
* Can't cut through
the park *
571
00:29:29,761 --> 00:29:31,285
* 'Cause it's crazy
after dark *
572
00:29:31,362 --> 00:29:33,762
* Keep my hand on my gun,
they got me on the run *
573
00:29:33,832 --> 00:29:36,164
* I feel like a outlaw
broke my last glass jaw *
574
00:29:36,234 --> 00:29:39,533
* Hear them say,
"You want some more?"
Living on a seesaw *
575
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:50,843
* Broken glass everywhere,
people pissing on the stairs *
576
00:29:50,915 --> 00:29:53,509
* You know,
they just don't care,
I can't take the smell *
577
00:29:53,585 --> 00:29:56,986
* Can't take the noise,
got no money to move out,
I guess I got no choice *
578
00:29:57,055 --> 00:29:59,489
* Rats in the front room,
roaches in the back *
579
00:29:59,557 --> 00:30:01,650
* Junkies in the alley
with a baseball bat *
580
00:30:01,726 --> 00:30:04,160
* I tried to get away
but I couldn't get far *
581
00:30:04,229 --> 00:30:06,823
* 'Cause a man with a tow-truck
repossessed my car *
582
00:30:06,898 --> 00:30:11,597
* Don't push me
'cause I'm close to the edge *
583
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:15,161
* I'm trying not
to lose my head *
584
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,333
* Ha-ha-ha! *
585
00:30:17,408 --> 00:30:20,172
Kase:
Well, I know one thing
about graffiti, man.
586
00:30:20,245 --> 00:30:23,180
Niggers say it played out,
niggers say this,
niggers say that.
587
00:30:23,248 --> 00:30:25,045
But, it's going
to keep going on.
588
00:30:25,116 --> 00:30:28,017
'Cause I might be old and quit,
but you coming up,
589
00:30:28,086 --> 00:30:31,578
younger niggers is coming up,
it's going to keep going and
keep going, you know?
590
00:30:31,656 --> 00:30:34,352
'Cause you going to be a king
soon, too, you know?
591
00:30:35,593 --> 00:30:37,686
Dez:
He's like a son to me,
in a way, you know.
592
00:30:37,762 --> 00:30:40,424
I look out for him
and he looks out for me.
593
00:30:40,498 --> 00:30:43,467
I won't let nothing happen
to him, you know?
594
00:30:43,534 --> 00:30:46,401
He won't let nothing happen
to me if he could help it.
595
00:30:47,605 --> 00:30:49,300
I know for his age,
596
00:30:49,374 --> 00:30:51,308
he's 14 now,
597
00:30:51,376 --> 00:30:52,968
and I'm 16.
598
00:30:53,044 --> 00:30:54,636
About the time he get
my age,
599
00:30:54,712 --> 00:30:56,839
he be one of the best
people out.
600
00:30:58,383 --> 00:31:00,647
If he continues
to go on in the years,
601
00:31:00,718 --> 00:31:02,811
he can be
another Picasso.
602
00:31:02,887 --> 00:31:04,548
( laughs )
603
00:31:06,057 --> 00:31:07,854
* Get funky in the place *
604
00:31:11,462 --> 00:31:13,225
* Get funky in the place *
605
00:31:18,069 --> 00:31:20,469
* Life ain't no more a joke,
it's a serious thing *
606
00:31:20,538 --> 00:31:23,405
* When you're dealing
with the answers that
you can't explain *
607
00:31:23,474 --> 00:31:26,068
* It's the funky beat
and there's the funky beat *
608
00:31:26,144 --> 00:31:28,669
* And there's the funk,
the funk and the funky beat *
609
00:31:28,746 --> 00:31:31,010
* E-yah *
610
00:31:31,082 --> 00:31:34,108
* Like a little jelly bean
I'm a sweet like a candy cane *
611
00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:36,517
* I make you get down
this is number one stain *
612
00:31:36,587 --> 00:31:39,385
* On the train just groovin'
like a seesaw *
613
00:31:39,457 --> 00:31:41,186
* They're a-breakin' up,
yeah, yeah... *
614
00:31:41,259 --> 00:31:43,318
Narrator:
The idea of style
and competing
615
00:31:43,394 --> 00:31:46,795
for the best style is the key
to all forms of rocking.
616
00:31:46,864 --> 00:31:49,628
* He can own the freak
a-like a little deak-deak *
617
00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:50,963
* You're rockin' on *
618
00:31:51,035 --> 00:31:53,970
With the rap M.C.,
it's rocking the mike...
619
00:31:54,038 --> 00:31:57,474
for the B-boys, it's rocking
your body in break dancing.
620
00:31:57,542 --> 00:32:02,138
Or for writers,
rocking the city with
your name on a train.
621
00:32:02,213 --> 00:32:04,181
* Get funky in the place *
622
00:32:06,884 --> 00:32:08,852
* Get funky in the place... *
623
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,548
( boombox playing )
624
00:32:16,561 --> 00:32:18,995
Lennie Len:
Right now, he's doing
the footwork
625
00:32:19,063 --> 00:32:22,032
when original breaking
came out.
626
00:32:24,736 --> 00:32:26,829
There he's doing the baby
and the turtle.
627
00:32:26,904 --> 00:32:28,496
- The back bridge.
- Yeah.
628
00:32:28,573 --> 00:32:31,201
He did the head spin
and then just went up.
629
00:32:33,478 --> 00:32:35,503
I got a certain backspin
that I made up.
630
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:36,740
Want me to show you it?
631
00:32:36,814 --> 00:32:38,873
I started off
doing like this...
632
00:32:42,587 --> 00:32:44,384
and landing like that.
633
00:32:46,591 --> 00:32:48,286
So, then, I just...
634
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:51,123
decided not to do the freeze
and keep on spinning.
635
00:32:51,195 --> 00:32:53,129
So it goes like this.
636
00:32:53,197 --> 00:32:55,791
I put my arm right here
and it's easy.
637
00:32:55,867 --> 00:32:58,028
And I push my arm
and swing my left leg--
638
00:32:58,102 --> 00:33:00,161
my right leg--
both of 'em around.
639
00:33:11,215 --> 00:33:13,479
Other crews, they're not
as good as us,
640
00:33:13,551 --> 00:33:15,985
'cause we have
the breaking form.
641
00:33:16,054 --> 00:33:18,750
- Crazy Legs: Original style.
- Yeah, original style.
642
00:33:18,823 --> 00:33:21,087
Other crews like
"Dynamic Rockers,"
643
00:33:21,159 --> 00:33:23,150
- they bite, usually--
- Yeah, they bite!
644
00:33:23,227 --> 00:33:26,424
Let me tell you
about these people,
Dynamic Rockers.
645
00:33:26,497 --> 00:33:28,021
MC:
One-two-one-two.
646
00:33:29,367 --> 00:33:31,267
One-two-one.
Party people in the placel
647
00:33:31,335 --> 00:33:33,496
Rock Steady
against Dynamic Rockersl
648
00:33:33,571 --> 00:33:35,368
Rock on till
the break of dawnl
649
00:33:39,243 --> 00:33:40,733
Crazy Legs in the housel
650
00:33:40,812 --> 00:33:42,336
Crazy Legs:
This goes back...
651
00:33:42,413 --> 00:33:44,847
when I used to go
to the roller-skating rink,
652
00:33:44,916 --> 00:33:47,282
United Skates of America
in Queens, right?
653
00:33:47,351 --> 00:33:50,787
I used to go over there
to break against all of them
and take them all out.
654
00:33:50,855 --> 00:33:53,949
You know, burn 'em,
make 'em look stupid.
655
00:33:54,025 --> 00:33:57,119
And they had no kind
of style at all.
656
00:33:57,195 --> 00:33:59,129
They was beginners.
657
00:33:59,197 --> 00:34:01,062
I been breaking
way before them.
658
00:34:02,366 --> 00:34:04,960
MC:
* A-rock-on the kid
the Crazy Legs... *
659
00:34:05,036 --> 00:34:08,802
Frosty Freeze:
We started doing better
routines than they were.
660
00:34:08,873 --> 00:34:11,137
They got to a point
where they got mad at us
661
00:34:11,209 --> 00:34:13,473
because we was taking them out
with our moves.
662
00:34:13,544 --> 00:34:15,478
Then, that started
getting out of hand,
663
00:34:15,546 --> 00:34:17,605
because they had the crowd
and we didn't.
664
00:34:17,682 --> 00:34:20,150
MC:
Yol Whoever ain't
in Rock Steady or Dynamic,
665
00:34:20,218 --> 00:34:22,482
get behind the barriersl
666
00:34:22,553 --> 00:34:25,317
Yol Both rockin' crews,
can you please listen?
667
00:34:25,389 --> 00:34:27,687
Nobody's listening to me.
668
00:34:28,893 --> 00:34:30,758
We're not going to start
until you move.
669
00:34:32,396 --> 00:34:34,023
Rockers, get ready.
670
00:34:35,633 --> 00:34:37,601
( music playing )
671
00:34:41,806 --> 00:34:44,673
Frosty Freeze:
Up-rock is just like
humiliating.
672
00:34:44,742 --> 00:34:47,472
Doing things in peoples'
faces and all that.
673
00:34:55,786 --> 00:34:57,720
And down-rocking,
as you know,
674
00:34:57,788 --> 00:35:01,189
is trying to see
who can compete against
whose moves on the floor.
675
00:35:01,259 --> 00:35:03,420
MC rapping:
* I was lookin' out
on the 33rd floor *
676
00:35:03,494 --> 00:35:05,428
* All of the sudden,
there was a knock on my door *
677
00:35:05,496 --> 00:35:07,020
* It was "Son of Sam"
with a .44 *
678
00:35:07,098 --> 00:35:09,157
* He blew a hole
straight through my door *
679
00:35:09,233 --> 00:35:11,201
* So I went to the back
to get the gun *
680
00:35:11,269 --> 00:35:13,134
* I was out two bullets,
had only one *
681
00:35:13,204 --> 00:35:15,263
* I shoot the shit,
I shot him in his eye *
682
00:35:15,339 --> 00:35:17,466
* Never saw a white man
jump so high. *
683
00:35:17,542 --> 00:35:20,841
MC:
So who won
the rocking contest?
684
00:35:20,912 --> 00:35:23,278
( crowd chants )
Rock Steady! Rock Steady!
685
00:35:23,347 --> 00:35:24,871
You all know who took
them out right?
686
00:35:24,949 --> 00:35:27,042
Put it this way,
we're out of sight
and they bite.
687
00:35:27,118 --> 00:35:30,281
They bit my turtle
into a hop--
688
00:35:30,354 --> 00:35:34,347
Oh, man. I could've cried
when I seen that.
689
00:35:34,425 --> 00:35:36,825
You know, that faggot
that was flying around there
690
00:35:36,894 --> 00:35:38,725
with his funny legs
and shit?
691
00:35:38,796 --> 00:35:41,162
- He's in gymnastics.
- So what? So what?
692
00:35:41,232 --> 00:35:44,326
That's not even breaking.
That's all fairy flying.
693
00:35:44,402 --> 00:35:46,529
I call that fairy flying.
694
00:35:46,604 --> 00:35:48,595
MC:
Who goes for Rock Steady?
695
00:35:48,673 --> 00:35:50,265
( crowd cheering )
696
00:35:50,341 --> 00:35:52,275
The Dynamic Rockers?
697
00:35:52,343 --> 00:35:53,776
( heightened cheering )
698
00:35:53,844 --> 00:35:55,038
Hold it. Hold it down.
699
00:35:55,112 --> 00:35:57,979
It was a tie.
It was a tie.
700
00:36:02,019 --> 00:36:05,785
* Ahh...yes...well *
701
00:36:05,856 --> 00:36:07,949
* Are we back for more? *
702
00:36:08,025 --> 00:36:09,492
* They're here *
703
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,994
- * D-L-B *
- * Ha-ha-ha-ha *
704
00:36:12,063 --> 00:36:14,531
- * Tito! *
- * Ha-ha-ha-ha *
705
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,159
- * Mike Cee *
- * Hey girll Hey girll *
706
00:36:17,235 --> 00:36:19,829
- * Pesol *
- * D-L-BI *
707
00:36:19,904 --> 00:36:22,270
* Rockin' it, rockin' it
yes, he is rockin' it *
708
00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:24,672
* Tito is rockin' it
yes, he is rockin' it *
709
00:36:24,742 --> 00:36:27,074
* Mike Cee,
yes, he is rockin' it *
710
00:36:27,144 --> 00:36:29,669
* Peso, rockin' it
yes, he is rockin' it *
711
00:36:29,747 --> 00:36:32,181
* We're all rockin' it,
you should be rockin' it *
712
00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:34,650
* Rockin' it, rockin' it. *
713
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,313
Woman:
How do you fill up
a train like that?
714
00:36:37,388 --> 00:36:38,821
You can't do it overnight.
715
00:36:38,889 --> 00:36:41,153
Do you wait
for the same train
716
00:36:41,225 --> 00:36:42,988
coming back into
the same station?
717
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:45,494
No, you get
the parked train,
and you just---
718
00:36:45,563 --> 00:36:48,896
- Oh, you mean you go
to the subway yard.
- Yeah.
719
00:36:48,966 --> 00:36:52,265
Does your mother wonder
why you come home with that
all over your face?
720
00:36:52,336 --> 00:36:54,201
No, she knows I write
the graffiti.
721
00:36:54,272 --> 00:36:56,638
I told her,
I say I'm going up
on the trains.
722
00:36:56,707 --> 00:36:58,299
I'm gonna go write
some graffiti.
723
00:36:58,376 --> 00:37:00,435
- Does she worry
you might get caught?
- Yeah.
724
00:37:00,511 --> 00:37:02,843
She says "If the cops call,
don't come running to me."
725
00:37:02,913 --> 00:37:04,938
Um...
726
00:37:05,016 --> 00:37:08,452
I never realized it meant
so much to them.
727
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:10,453
I just thought
they were writing...
728
00:37:10,521 --> 00:37:11,954
just writing anything.
729
00:37:12,023 --> 00:37:13,957
But I guess it has
a deep meaning.
730
00:37:14,025 --> 00:37:16,493
- Huh?
- What kind
of deep meaning?
731
00:37:17,695 --> 00:37:19,560
Well, like he said...
732
00:37:19,630 --> 00:37:21,495
he's writing
his girlfriends' name.
733
00:37:22,867 --> 00:37:25,529
He's Dust,
whatever that means.
734
00:37:25,603 --> 00:37:27,468
What is Dust supposed
to mean?
735
00:37:27,538 --> 00:37:29,563
It's just a name.
It's a word, you know.
736
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,301
See, it's a game.
737
00:37:31,375 --> 00:37:33,138
They give you a name,
and they say,
738
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:35,474
"Here, take this name
and do something with it."
739
00:37:35,546 --> 00:37:36,979
Like, he got
the name Seen.
740
00:37:37,048 --> 00:37:39,141
He can walk around, just say,
"My name is Seen,"
741
00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:41,650
and say,
"Yeah, I seen that there.
I seen it there."
742
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,152
It's a name.
It's just like...
743
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:44,744
I'll give you a name
and you say,
744
00:37:44,822 --> 00:37:47,052
"How big could you get
this name up? How high?"
745
00:37:47,124 --> 00:37:53,324
( train noise )
746
00:37:53,564 --> 00:37:56,499
Trains are routinely washed,
747
00:37:56,567 --> 00:37:58,398
but because
of the graffiti problem,
748
00:37:58,469 --> 00:38:01,438
we have to use
a graffiti removal solution,
749
00:38:01,505 --> 00:38:03,496
which, at best,
is detrimental
750
00:38:03,574 --> 00:38:07,203
to the physical make-up
of the train itself.
751
00:38:07,278 --> 00:38:09,769
This is what I'm assigned.
752
00:38:09,847 --> 00:38:11,280
The car wash.
753
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:13,783
8:00 a.m., Jamaica Yard.
Hold your nose.
754
00:38:13,851 --> 00:38:15,944
Detective Jacobs:
We spend a lot of money
755
00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:19,581
replacing broken
and damaged side windows.
756
00:38:19,657 --> 00:38:21,352
We cannot use...
757
00:38:21,425 --> 00:38:24,758
acrylic plastic windows
in the train,
758
00:38:24,829 --> 00:38:28,321
because the same
graffiti removal solution
759
00:38:28,399 --> 00:38:29,957
fogs the windows.
760
00:38:30,034 --> 00:38:32,264
Richard Ravitch:
The problem often is,
761
00:38:32,336 --> 00:38:35,100
that often it doesn't produce
a sparkling clean car,
762
00:38:35,172 --> 00:38:38,835
but rather,
a sort of vomitous color,
763
00:38:38,909 --> 00:38:42,640
which some of the graffiti
artists argue
764
00:38:42,713 --> 00:38:46,308
is less attractive
than what they consider
to be their artwork.
765
00:38:46,384 --> 00:38:49,114
So, it's altogether sort of
an unsatisfactory result.
766
00:38:49,186 --> 00:38:51,416
Motorman:
Watch out.
You might get wet now.
767
00:38:51,489 --> 00:38:53,582
Watch your shoes.
768
00:38:53,657 --> 00:38:56,751
It's not the best
smelling stuff,
769
00:38:56,827 --> 00:38:58,761
but so far,
it hasn't hurt me.
770
00:38:58,829 --> 00:39:00,763
You know,
it hasn't bothered me.
771
00:39:00,831 --> 00:39:02,526
Some fellows, it bothers.
772
00:39:04,835 --> 00:39:06,928
( motorman coughs )
773
00:39:07,004 --> 00:39:10,098
That's my money
that's being diverted
774
00:39:10,174 --> 00:39:12,199
from providing me
with good,
775
00:39:12,276 --> 00:39:14,972
safe, secure,
rapid transit.
776
00:39:15,045 --> 00:39:17,946
Look at this junk.
Graffiti doesn't make
your life better;
777
00:39:18,015 --> 00:39:20,006
it just makes
your neighborhood look worse.
778
00:39:20,084 --> 00:39:22,143
You know how
I made something
out of my life?
779
00:39:22,219 --> 00:39:24,779
- By using my hands.
- But only in the ring.
780
00:39:24,855 --> 00:39:27,380
Don't use them to mess up
the walls with graffiti.
781
00:39:28,859 --> 00:39:31,259
I've practiced all my life
to make moves like that.
782
00:39:31,328 --> 00:39:33,125
And I worked every day
to be a singer.
783
00:39:33,197 --> 00:39:35,791
So, if you really want to make
something out of your life,
784
00:39:35,866 --> 00:39:37,458
- Use your head.
- Or your voice.
785
00:39:37,535 --> 00:39:40,197
But don't waste your time
making a mess.
786
00:39:40,271 --> 00:39:44,469
Harold Levine:
Make your mark in society,
not on society.
787
00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:47,978
This happens to be
a poster that is...
788
00:39:48,045 --> 00:39:49,979
the first in a series.
789
00:39:50,047 --> 00:39:54,108
It's going to be used
in New York City's subways
and buses,
790
00:39:54,185 --> 00:39:56,813
where we've used
Hector Camacho who's a boxer,
791
00:39:56,887 --> 00:39:59,014
North American
lightweight champ,
792
00:39:59,089 --> 00:40:01,819
and Alex Ramos, boxer,
leading middleweight contender.
793
00:40:01,892 --> 00:40:03,484
"Take it from the champs,
794
00:40:03,561 --> 00:40:05,495
graffiti is for chumps.
795
00:40:05,563 --> 00:40:09,829
Make your mark in society,
not on society."
796
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,391
It's really very clever.
797
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:14,404
"Put your mark on society,
798
00:40:14,472 --> 00:40:17,134
in doing something
in society."
799
00:40:17,208 --> 00:40:19,005
I've screwed it up
a little bit,
800
00:40:19,076 --> 00:40:20,873
but, nevertheless,
you got the message.
801
00:40:20,945 --> 00:40:23,277
Reporter:
Realistically,
do you think it will work?
802
00:40:23,347 --> 00:40:26,180
You say realistically,
I'm hopeful that it will work.
803
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:30,016
Nobody thought that
we would be as successful
as we were
804
00:40:30,087 --> 00:40:33,523
in the campaign
against the drought
and water conservation;
805
00:40:33,591 --> 00:40:35,024
nevertheless, that worked.
806
00:40:35,092 --> 00:40:37,686
I'm hopeful we will have
equal success here.
807
00:40:37,761 --> 00:40:39,524
Time will tell.
808
00:40:39,597 --> 00:40:42,862
Mr. Mayor,
are those posters
graffiti-proof?
809
00:40:42,933 --> 00:40:44,867
Time will tell.
810
00:40:44,935 --> 00:40:47,028
( laughter )
811
00:40:47,505 --> 00:40:49,769
What you doing, B?
Fresh?
812
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,638
- It's fresh.
- One of my little
signature series.
813
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:56,646
Word. Lord, you getting
fresh on a nigger, man.
814
00:40:56,714 --> 00:40:58,978
That nigger's still got
the touch, boy.
815
00:40:59,049 --> 00:41:01,984
Butchy-butch,
with the tiger skinl
816
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,315
I see you did the "Kase"
with a "C" this time.
817
00:41:05,389 --> 00:41:07,653
Yeah, he know who I am,
though, anyway.
818
00:41:07,725 --> 00:41:11,161
The king of what?
The king of style.
819
00:41:11,228 --> 00:41:13,992
Sure, I got styles already
that's more complex
820
00:41:14,064 --> 00:41:15,998
that nobody know about.
821
00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:18,830
I mean,
super-duty tough work.
822
00:41:18,903 --> 00:41:21,838
See, this is just semi-like,
what I would call it.
823
00:41:21,906 --> 00:41:24,670
But, if I really get into it
and start camouflaging it,
824
00:41:24,742 --> 00:41:26,869
I don't think you even be able
to read it.
825
00:41:29,413 --> 00:41:32,007
* Don't go nowhere... *
826
00:41:32,082 --> 00:41:34,550
Throw a little
semi thing here.
827
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,018
It wasn't no
severely bad accident,
828
00:41:39,089 --> 00:41:41,683
just that I got burnt
by wires, that's all.
829
00:41:41,759 --> 00:41:44,353
A long time ago.
Electrical wires.
830
00:41:44,428 --> 00:41:46,589
And then they rushed me
to the hospital
831
00:41:46,664 --> 00:41:48,291
and they just had
to amputate,
832
00:41:48,365 --> 00:41:50,993
'cause my tissues
and muscles was burnt bad.
833
00:41:52,369 --> 00:41:54,963
And I was young,
I was playing and I wasn't,
834
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,008
you know, too sure--
I knew what I was doing,
835
00:41:58,075 --> 00:42:00,737
but I just didn't know
should I grab the wire or not,
836
00:42:00,811 --> 00:42:02,540
I don't know
if I grabbed it or not,
837
00:42:02,613 --> 00:42:04,808
but I know I just,
you know, got hurt.
838
00:42:04,882 --> 00:42:07,350
'Cause it had knocked me out,
so I didn't remember.
839
00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:13,314
But that don't mean nothing
in general.
840
00:42:13,390 --> 00:42:15,483
I'm okay.
841
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:18,790
It's just, that was a bad thing
to happen at the time.
842
00:42:21,065 --> 00:42:23,329
But that's why people
are amazed about me now,
843
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,665
'cause of going through that,
and then dealing with what
I'm dealing with,
844
00:42:26,737 --> 00:42:29,297
even though it's common
littery bull-crap in a way.
845
00:42:29,373 --> 00:42:32,137
People look at a person,
"What, you write on trains?
846
00:42:32,209 --> 00:42:34,143
Oh, you vandalism,"
and all that.
847
00:42:34,211 --> 00:42:35,838
Yeah, I vandalism.
All right.
848
00:42:35,913 --> 00:42:38,040
But still, in general,
I know what I'm doing.
849
00:42:38,115 --> 00:42:40,845
I did something to make
your eyes open up, right?
850
00:42:40,918 --> 00:42:42,715
So why are you talking
about it for?
851
00:42:45,489 --> 00:42:48,652
( slow Latin funk music
playing )
852
00:43:10,547 --> 00:43:13,311
Cap:
From here up...
853
00:43:13,384 --> 00:43:15,409
nobody goes but me.
854
00:43:15,486 --> 00:43:18,182
It's my lay-ups.
Definitely.
855
00:43:20,391 --> 00:43:23,087
'Cause this is a beautiful spot
to do pieces on.
856
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,788
Ain't hardly no writers
know about this place.
857
00:43:27,398 --> 00:43:28,831
My spot.
858
00:43:28,899 --> 00:43:30,992
Niggers know.
Believe it.
859
00:43:31,068 --> 00:43:33,366
Niggers know.
Heh-heh-heh.
860
00:43:34,738 --> 00:43:36,603
Yo. Here.
Take the cans.
861
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:44,347
I am not
a graffiti artist.
862
00:43:44,415 --> 00:43:46,178
I'm a graffiti bomber.
863
00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:48,775
There's two styles
of graffiti that are trying to,
864
00:43:48,852 --> 00:43:50,786
you know, co-exist
with each other.
865
00:43:50,854 --> 00:43:52,822
But it ain't gonna work
like that.
866
00:43:54,191 --> 00:43:57,627
Blood wars, buddy.
Blood wars.
867
00:43:57,695 --> 00:43:59,629
Min:
That's why graffiti's ruined.
868
00:43:59,697 --> 00:44:01,494
That Cap ruined the 2s
and 5s.
869
00:44:01,565 --> 00:44:03,897
the 2s and 5s used
to go to the 2 yard.
870
00:44:03,967 --> 00:44:06,629
It would be a masterpiece
art gallery of burners
871
00:44:06,704 --> 00:44:08,968
from all these dudes
from the Bronx and Brooklyn
872
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:10,472
with def wild styles.
873
00:44:10,541 --> 00:44:12,907
Now you go to the 2 yard,
it's all destroyed.
874
00:44:12,976 --> 00:44:15,308
This guy named Cap
with his Lucille Ball hairdo
875
00:44:15,379 --> 00:44:16,641
is going over
all your burners.
876
00:44:16,714 --> 00:44:18,841
Hey, what's up, Shy?
877
00:44:25,055 --> 00:44:28,149
I've seen your new pieces
on the 2s and 5s.
878
00:44:28,225 --> 00:44:30,989
They went over that.
879
00:44:31,061 --> 00:44:32,995
- That Shy-Min.
- Yeah, I know.
880
00:44:33,063 --> 00:44:34,997
- Cap.
- Cap.
881
00:44:35,065 --> 00:44:38,330
I wouldn't have minded
if he would've went over
one of my old cars,
882
00:44:38,402 --> 00:44:40,666
but that was fresh.
It was a brand new burner.
883
00:44:40,738 --> 00:44:42,501
It only ran for two days,
you know?
884
00:44:42,573 --> 00:44:44,768
He didn't give it a chance
to run on the line.
885
00:44:44,842 --> 00:44:47,276
Just like... powl
886
00:44:47,344 --> 00:44:49,278
They went over it,
and now I feel...
887
00:44:49,346 --> 00:44:50,836
that hurt me, you know?
888
00:44:50,914 --> 00:44:53,280
and Seen was with him,
and PJ,
889
00:44:53,350 --> 00:44:55,910
and then I called Seen up
and he denied it.
890
00:44:55,986 --> 00:44:57,920
I can't afford
to get involved.
891
00:44:57,988 --> 00:45:00,957
There's a war going on,
as you should know...
892
00:45:01,024 --> 00:45:02,958
PJ and Cap--
893
00:45:03,026 --> 00:45:04,960
against everybody.
894
00:45:05,028 --> 00:45:07,462
He just crossed me
out anyway.
895
00:45:07,531 --> 00:45:08,964
I don't know why.
896
00:45:09,032 --> 00:45:10,829
Brand new car, too,
he wasted.
897
00:45:10,901 --> 00:45:13,768
Let's say this,
I stand behind them,
898
00:45:13,837 --> 00:45:17,295
if they had a good cause
for the situation.
899
00:45:17,374 --> 00:45:20,309
as far as it is now...
900
00:45:20,377 --> 00:45:21,969
they have no cause
behind it.
901
00:45:22,045 --> 00:45:23,910
They're just doing it
for the hell of it...
902
00:45:23,981 --> 00:45:26,814
which that ain't me,
because I wouldn't want
people to go over my pieces,
903
00:45:26,884 --> 00:45:28,215
so I wouldn't
go over them.
904
00:45:28,285 --> 00:45:29,980
Shy:
He's disrespecting
the line,
905
00:45:30,053 --> 00:45:32,317
which no other guy was doing
that years ago.
906
00:45:32,389 --> 00:45:33,981
All he does is silver
throw-ups.
907
00:45:34,057 --> 00:45:36,821
You got fresh colored pieces,
full top-to-bottoms.
908
00:45:36,894 --> 00:45:39,362
And he'll just laugh at you.
"It's just a throw-up.
909
00:45:39,429 --> 00:45:41,124
I've got a million
of 'em running."
910
00:45:41,198 --> 00:45:44,167
He's a jealous toy, that's all,
'cause he can't do a burner.
911
00:45:44,234 --> 00:45:46,862
- He can't do shit.
- He can't even do
a straight letter.
912
00:45:48,038 --> 00:45:49,596
- He went over this?
- Yeah.
913
00:45:49,673 --> 00:45:51,937
He did a Cap up over me
and a MPC over this,
914
00:45:52,009 --> 00:45:53,772
and wrote war next
to Fat Albert.
915
00:45:53,844 --> 00:45:55,038
Oh, shit.
916
00:45:55,112 --> 00:45:57,273
You can't never make up
for that.
917
00:45:57,347 --> 00:45:59,577
That's never forgive
action.
918
00:45:59,650 --> 00:46:01,447
If you're a toy,
you gotta be stopped.
919
00:46:01,518 --> 00:46:02,951
This guy's a toy
and he's big
920
00:46:03,020 --> 00:46:04,954
and he's still
gotta be stopped.
921
00:46:05,022 --> 00:46:06,614
Gotta break his arms.
922
00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:08,453
But how come we waited
all this long?
923
00:46:08,525 --> 00:46:10,686
How come there's
so many writers that
he went over
924
00:46:10,761 --> 00:46:12,956
and we're not in his
neighborhood with crews?
925
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:15,294
Because nobody wants
to get united.
926
00:46:15,365 --> 00:46:17,458
We gotta get together, bro'.
927
00:46:17,534 --> 00:46:20,298
Everybody that says,
"We're gonna get down," right?
928
00:46:20,370 --> 00:46:22,304
But nobody comes, man.
929
00:46:22,372 --> 00:46:24,306
What we gotta do
is meet everybody
930
00:46:24,374 --> 00:46:27,309
on 149th Street at the Bench.
At the Grand Concourse.
931
00:46:27,377 --> 00:46:30,471
We should forget
our bullshit worries that
we got with each other,
932
00:46:30,547 --> 00:46:33,072
unite and get this toy,
'cause he's dogging everybody...
933
00:46:33,150 --> 00:46:35,675
( echoes )
...everybody.
934
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,018
Cap, I don't know,
some big white boy.
935
00:46:41,225 --> 00:46:43,489
I don't know him,
I don't want to know him.
936
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,323
Yeah, that's why he's doing.
937
00:46:45,395 --> 00:46:47,260
He's trying to get attention
and revenge,
938
00:46:47,331 --> 00:46:49,925
'cause people
go over his throw-ups.
People who do burners--
939
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,093
you see a throw-up,
you're going to go over it.
940
00:46:52,169 --> 00:46:54,933
Who thinks Cap's throw-ups
are worth being on a train?
941
00:46:55,005 --> 00:46:57,269
( together )
Nobody!
942
00:46:57,341 --> 00:47:00,208
- Pistol: What you write, bro'?
- I write Mare, man.
943
00:47:00,277 --> 00:47:02,973
Pistol:
Mear, M-E-A-R?
944
00:47:03,046 --> 00:47:04,775
M-A-R-E.
945
00:47:04,848 --> 00:47:06,782
- M-A-R-E, Mar?
- Yeah.
946
00:47:06,850 --> 00:47:09,614
Mare.
947
00:47:09,686 --> 00:47:11,950
Mar is M-A-R.
948
00:47:12,022 --> 00:47:15,788
But no, seriously,
you gotta kill them dudes
for doing that.
949
00:47:15,859 --> 00:47:18,293
Who's Cap?
Cap is right here?
950
00:47:18,362 --> 00:47:20,330
( together )
No!
951
00:47:33,043 --> 00:47:35,637
Cap:
People don't know
what I look like until now.
952
00:47:35,712 --> 00:47:37,646
Till they start going
to the movies.
953
00:47:37,714 --> 00:47:40,182
They're going to see my face.
Big deal.
954
00:47:42,219 --> 00:47:45,154
Anybody tries to screw around
with me and my friends,
955
00:47:45,222 --> 00:47:47,520
I go over everything
they got forever.
956
00:47:47,591 --> 00:47:50,788
Everybody, from Brooklyn
to Manhattan. Everybody.
957
00:47:54,331 --> 00:47:56,128
And that's the way it is.
958
00:47:57,501 --> 00:48:00,629
Especially with me.
The object is more.
959
00:48:02,339 --> 00:48:04,967
Not the biggest
and the beautifullest,
but more.
960
00:48:06,176 --> 00:48:08,940
It's like a little piece
on every car...
961
00:48:09,012 --> 00:48:10,604
is what counts.
962
00:48:10,681 --> 00:48:12,774
Not one whole car on every
963
00:48:12,849 --> 00:48:14,714
30 cars that goes by.
964
00:48:18,021 --> 00:48:20,717
Once you start
going over someone,
you can't stop.
965
00:48:20,791 --> 00:48:22,486
So, I'm gonna live.
966
00:48:24,027 --> 00:48:26,120
Dust started pulling
some shit with me.
967
00:48:26,196 --> 00:48:27,356
I'm telling you,
968
00:48:27,431 --> 00:48:29,490
he's lucky we didn't catch him
by that wall.
969
00:48:29,566 --> 00:48:32,160
If we would've been there,
even if you was shooting
the movie,
970
00:48:32,235 --> 00:48:33,964
it would've just been
boom-boom-boom!
971
00:48:34,037 --> 00:48:35,868
And that's the way
it would've went.
972
00:48:37,708 --> 00:48:40,404
It's gonna get crossed off,
I guarantee, by tomorrow,
973
00:48:40,477 --> 00:48:42,308
once they find out it's here.
974
00:48:42,379 --> 00:48:44,347
Help me with the 3-D, Nicky.
Come on.
975
00:48:46,149 --> 00:48:48,583
The piece has got a lot
of colors to go in there yet.
976
00:48:48,652 --> 00:48:51,416
But with the color,
we could do that
with no problem.
977
00:48:51,488 --> 00:48:53,251
I could do it before
it gets dark.
978
00:48:53,323 --> 00:48:55,621
No problem.
Colors, colors, colors!
979
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:05,866
Cap:
That was a beautiful wall.
980
00:49:07,337 --> 00:49:09,134
I really liked that.
981
00:49:11,341 --> 00:49:13,775
People like that,
they deserve getting
982
00:49:13,844 --> 00:49:15,778
everything they got
crossed out...
983
00:49:15,846 --> 00:49:17,473
forever.
984
00:49:26,857 --> 00:49:28,449
Man:
For the past 20 years,
985
00:49:28,525 --> 00:49:30,459
there really hasn't been
anything hot.
986
00:49:30,527 --> 00:49:32,461
There have been no movements
since Pop Art.
987
00:49:32,529 --> 00:49:34,360
Any retailer,
and let's face it,
988
00:49:34,431 --> 00:49:36,296
a gallery is indeed
a retailer,
989
00:49:36,366 --> 00:49:39,494
they're always looking
for something hot that
they can merchandise
990
00:49:39,569 --> 00:49:41,002
and sell to the public.
991
00:49:41,071 --> 00:49:43,505
It's almost as though
992
00:49:43,573 --> 00:49:47,475
these pieces were peeled off
the train and put onto canvas,
993
00:49:47,544 --> 00:49:50,638
so you have the same energy,
you have the same coloring,
994
00:49:50,714 --> 00:49:53,148
you have the same intensity
and the same big piece
995
00:49:53,216 --> 00:49:55,275
that you would see
on a train.
996
00:49:55,352 --> 00:49:59,311
The real subway graffiti
that's done on the trains
997
00:49:59,389 --> 00:50:02,825
is slowly dying out,
and this is taking its place.
998
00:50:02,893 --> 00:50:05,555
The lifespan
of an average piece today
999
00:50:05,629 --> 00:50:07,324
only lasts a few months.
1000
00:50:07,397 --> 00:50:10,491
This is something
that could last a lifetime.
1001
00:50:10,567 --> 00:50:14,503
Woman:
"Blondie" seems to be
an important figure within
1002
00:50:14,571 --> 00:50:17,165
the graffiti art style.
1003
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:20,266
Caine has used her
in a very photographic way.
1004
00:50:20,343 --> 00:50:23,335
Noc, shows her...
1005
00:50:23,413 --> 00:50:25,711
expressionistically.
1006
00:50:28,251 --> 00:50:30,845
I'm a colorist myself.
I'm an artist.
1007
00:50:30,921 --> 00:50:33,515
And it's exciting.
1008
00:50:33,590 --> 00:50:36,684
The color is exciting,
the movement is exciting.
1009
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,456
It combines all kinds
of movement.
1010
00:50:39,529 --> 00:50:41,690
Man:
We had ABC-TV.
1011
00:50:41,765 --> 00:50:43,289
We had CBS here tonight.
1012
00:50:43,366 --> 00:50:46,301
We're going to be
on the news tonight at 11:00.
1013
00:50:46,369 --> 00:50:48,428
National Public Radio.
1014
00:50:48,505 --> 00:50:49,699
Do it up, baby.
1015
00:50:49,773 --> 00:50:51,707
I love it.
1016
00:50:51,775 --> 00:50:54,801
I'm Ron Powers.
I'm a reporter with
the Associated Press.
1017
00:50:54,878 --> 00:50:58,143
- How long would it take you
to do something like this?
- On a train?
1018
00:50:58,215 --> 00:51:00,115
Depends on what
your schedule is.
1019
00:51:00,183 --> 00:51:03,152
I can't let my mother know
that I'm going to the trains,
1020
00:51:03,220 --> 00:51:04,687
so I have to be back early.
1021
00:51:04,754 --> 00:51:06,483
Woman:
But I did meet a guy here
1022
00:51:06,556 --> 00:51:08,319
who's an art critic
from the news,
1023
00:51:08,391 --> 00:51:10,256
and he says he gets
so goddamn mad
1024
00:51:10,327 --> 00:51:11,658
every time he sees this,
1025
00:51:11,728 --> 00:51:13,662
that he walked up
to one of the artist
1026
00:51:13,730 --> 00:51:14,992
at the show tonight
and said,
1027
00:51:15,065 --> 00:51:17,329
"How would you feel
if I took a can
1028
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,163
and wrote
on your graffiti?"
1029
00:51:19,236 --> 00:51:22,865
And the artist said to him,
"I kill you, man."
1030
00:51:22,939 --> 00:51:24,668
As an investment,
1031
00:51:24,741 --> 00:51:26,675
I feel so strongly that
1032
00:51:26,743 --> 00:51:28,836
if you get in on the bottom
of anything,
1033
00:51:28,912 --> 00:51:30,675
it's got to be
a good investment.
1034
00:51:30,747 --> 00:51:32,305
This is definitely
going someplace.
1035
00:51:32,382 --> 00:51:36,011
But I think that graffiti
on the subway cars
1036
00:51:36,086 --> 00:51:39,021
were a symbol of New York
1037
00:51:39,089 --> 00:51:41,023
for foreign people,
1038
00:51:41,091 --> 00:51:43,184
especially French people.
1039
00:51:43,260 --> 00:51:45,694
And I think
it's a little sad
1040
00:51:45,762 --> 00:51:47,957
if graffiti is going
to be only
1041
00:51:48,031 --> 00:51:50,829
on canvas,
and not anymore on trains.
1042
00:51:50,901 --> 00:51:52,129
Forget about the trains.
1043
00:51:52,202 --> 00:51:54,636
Who wants to be dirty
and hot at the same time?
1044
00:51:54,704 --> 00:51:57,104
That's right.
I'm into making money.
1045
00:51:57,174 --> 00:51:58,471
It feels good.
1046
00:51:58,542 --> 00:52:00,339
You go to school
and the teacher says,
1047
00:52:00,410 --> 00:52:01,672
"It's not
worth anything.
1048
00:52:01,745 --> 00:52:03,542
You don't make
any money from graffiti."
1049
00:52:03,613 --> 00:52:05,410
And you tell them,
"When was the last time
1050
00:52:05,482 --> 00:52:07,347
you made $2,000
in a month, huh?"
1051
00:52:08,552 --> 00:52:11,020
And you go, "Okay,
now you failed."
1052
00:52:11,087 --> 00:52:13,317
All right, the thought
has crossed my mind,
1053
00:52:13,390 --> 00:52:15,915
if something should happen,
I'll go along with it,
1054
00:52:15,992 --> 00:52:18,324
but if it doesn't,
it's no thing to me,
1055
00:52:18,395 --> 00:52:20,124
because that's not
what I'm out here for.
1056
00:52:20,197 --> 00:52:22,529
I'm out here to bomb, period.
That's what I started for.
1057
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,123
I didn't start writing
to go Paris.
1058
00:52:24,201 --> 00:52:25,998
I didn't start writing
to do canvases.
1059
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:28,503
I started writing to bomb.
To destroy all lines.
1060
00:52:28,572 --> 00:52:31,507
- That's what I'm doing.
- How long do you think
you'll do it?
1061
00:52:31,575 --> 00:52:33,372
Till I'm finished.
1062
00:52:36,379 --> 00:52:39,314
Now that you've heard that,
you understand what
I'm saying to you
1063
00:52:39,382 --> 00:52:40,849
when I say
I don't understand him.
1064
00:52:40,917 --> 00:52:43,181
He's out there to bomb,
destroy all lines.
1065
00:52:43,253 --> 00:52:45,847
What have the lines
ever done to him?
1066
00:52:45,922 --> 00:52:48,288
They made me pay 75�.
1067
00:52:48,358 --> 00:52:50,792
- When do you pay 75�?
- Never but--
1068
00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:53,090
I don't even know
what you're talking about.
1069
00:52:53,597 --> 00:52:56,122
( cheering, music playing )
1070
00:53:01,204 --> 00:53:03,001
We're on
the Staten Island Ferry.
1071
00:53:03,073 --> 00:53:04,973
This is the New York Harbor.
1072
00:53:05,041 --> 00:53:07,134
This is to signify
we're leaving New York
1073
00:53:07,210 --> 00:53:09,440
with this package
of artists
1074
00:53:09,512 --> 00:53:11,309
to go out
and play at places
1075
00:53:11,381 --> 00:53:13,474
where, individually,
they never would play.
1076
00:53:13,550 --> 00:53:16,644
It will be in Washington DC,
Pittsburgh, Chicago, Madison,
1077
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,156
Minneapolis, Iowa City,
Detroit and Toronto.
1078
00:53:20,223 --> 00:53:22,020
Being professional,
what does that mean?
1079
00:53:22,092 --> 00:53:24,026
Getting paid for what you do.
Professional.
1080
00:53:24,094 --> 00:53:26,153
Frosty Freeze:
Having your own style.
1081
00:53:26,229 --> 00:53:27,821
Kippy Dee:
Doing your own moves.
1082
00:53:27,897 --> 00:53:29,990
Don't let nobody else
bite your moves.
1083
00:53:30,066 --> 00:53:32,660
Doing it for a long time.
Being the best.
1084
00:53:36,873 --> 00:53:38,670
- * Special-K *
- * Sunshine *
1085
00:53:38,742 --> 00:53:40,334
* Kool Mo-Dee *
1086
00:53:40,410 --> 00:53:42,207
* All time feel
the heartbeat *
1087
00:53:42,279 --> 00:53:44,679
* Feel the heartbeat
we're the treacherous three *
1088
00:53:44,748 --> 00:53:46,807
* We got a new heartbeat *
1089
00:53:54,691 --> 00:53:57,159
* Get loose, get loose
Mo-Dee get loose *
1090
00:53:57,227 --> 00:53:59,661
* Just one heartbeat
show 'em you got juice *
1091
00:53:59,729 --> 00:54:01,458
- * Have fun *
- * Have fun *
1092
00:54:01,531 --> 00:54:04,500
- * Have fun *
- * Ha-ha-have fun *
1093
00:54:04,567 --> 00:54:06,467
* Party people got
a brand new treat *
1094
00:54:06,536 --> 00:54:08,800
* Off the well known tune
we call heartbeat *
1095
00:54:08,872 --> 00:54:10,965
* But we jazzed it up
and we broke it down *
1096
00:54:11,041 --> 00:54:13,407
* And came out with a brand new
funky sound *
1097
00:54:13,476 --> 00:54:15,876
* Now, I came here to get
this straight *
1098
00:54:15,945 --> 00:54:18,209
* Our heartbeat's not on
a normal break *
1099
00:54:18,281 --> 00:54:20,715
* 'Cause when we get excited
our adrenaline flows *
1100
00:54:20,784 --> 00:54:22,979
* And this is the way
our heartbeat goes *
1101
00:54:23,053 --> 00:54:25,419
* A hop-skip-and-a-jump
but I play no bump *
1102
00:54:25,488 --> 00:54:27,422
* Bump-bump-bump-bump
bumpety-bump *
1103
00:54:27,490 --> 00:54:29,822
* It's a brand new treat
and it sounds so sweet *
1104
00:54:29,893 --> 00:54:31,952
* The rapping, the music
our new heartbeat *
1105
00:54:32,028 --> 00:54:34,258
* So feel the heartbeat,
so feel the heartbeat *
1106
00:54:34,331 --> 00:54:36,993
* We're the treacherous three,
we got a new heartbeat *
1107
00:54:37,067 --> 00:54:38,227
* Hahl *
1108
00:54:38,301 --> 00:54:41,168
Consider us
the professionals.
1109
00:54:45,742 --> 00:54:48,609
Woman:
I think it's about time
the politicians came down
1110
00:54:48,678 --> 00:54:51,442
and looked and saw
what is on these trains.
1111
00:54:51,514 --> 00:54:53,175
It is just awful.
1112
00:54:53,249 --> 00:54:54,944
It shouldn't be that way.
1113
00:54:55,018 --> 00:54:57,612
It should be cleaned,
and the ones that are caught,
1114
00:54:57,687 --> 00:55:00,918
they should clean it--
the ones they catch doing that.
1115
00:55:00,990 --> 00:55:02,924
What's the sense
of paying 75�
1116
00:55:02,992 --> 00:55:05,722
when you have to ride
graffiti trains, you know?
1117
00:55:05,795 --> 00:55:07,786
It gives a terrible
impression of the city.
1118
00:55:07,864 --> 00:55:09,627
And if you think
the outside is bad--
1119
00:55:09,699 --> 00:55:11,826
I've been riding them,
like I say, for 40 years--
1120
00:55:11,901 --> 00:55:13,698
the inside
is just unbelievable.
1121
00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:15,567
It's a violation
of public property.
1122
00:55:15,638 --> 00:55:17,230
I think it's disgusting.
1123
00:55:17,307 --> 00:55:19,605
They should get somebody
to clean up the place.
1124
00:55:19,676 --> 00:55:23,510
We move three and a half
million people a day.
1125
00:55:24,881 --> 00:55:26,542
They have rights, too.
1126
00:55:26,616 --> 00:55:29,244
( train screeching to stop )
1127
00:55:29,319 --> 00:55:30,980
The people see
the outside of the cars
1128
00:55:31,054 --> 00:55:33,955
when the trains are going--
pull into the station,
1129
00:55:34,023 --> 00:55:36,389
or when they're passing
on the express track.
1130
00:55:36,459 --> 00:55:39,189
And then
it's generally a blur.
1131
00:55:39,262 --> 00:55:41,662
But I don't think
the public finds that nearly
1132
00:55:41,731 --> 00:55:44,165
as intrusive and ugly
1133
00:55:44,234 --> 00:55:46,168
as they do
the inside graffiti.
1134
00:55:46,236 --> 00:55:48,932
- He hates the insides.
- Yeah, he hates the insides.
1135
00:55:49,005 --> 00:55:51,371
He said if there's
any possible way
1136
00:55:51,441 --> 00:55:53,272
of we giving him
some kind
1137
00:55:53,343 --> 00:55:56,141
of suggestion of how
to get rid of the inside,
1138
00:55:56,212 --> 00:55:59,443
he said there might
be a chance of "negogiading"
1139
00:55:59,516 --> 00:56:01,450
with the outside.
1140
00:56:01,518 --> 00:56:04,112
- "Negogiading?"
- Something like that.
1141
00:56:04,187 --> 00:56:07,679
I met with a group
of them one day.
1142
00:56:07,757 --> 00:56:10,282
More out
of intellectual curiosity
1143
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,794
as to who they were
and what made them tick.
1144
00:56:12,862 --> 00:56:15,126
I found them
surprisingly articulate.
1145
00:56:15,198 --> 00:56:18,167
They expressed a strong sense
1146
00:56:20,203 --> 00:56:22,137
that if their outside
paintings
1147
00:56:22,205 --> 00:56:25,299
were left untouched,
1148
00:56:25,375 --> 00:56:28,674
that the public
would be impressed.
1149
00:56:28,745 --> 00:56:31,145
We came up to him
with a proposal to paint
1150
00:56:31,214 --> 00:56:33,307
10 cars inside and out
1151
00:56:33,383 --> 00:56:35,817
and let it run
in the major stations.
1152
00:56:35,885 --> 00:56:38,752
And let people vote on it,
let's say a two-week period,
1153
00:56:38,822 --> 00:56:40,483
and after the two-week period,
1154
00:56:40,557 --> 00:56:43,151
they'll have the results
in the paper,
1155
00:56:43,226 --> 00:56:46,684
and I think the MTA
will be embarrassed.
1156
00:56:46,763 --> 00:56:49,095
I thought there
was no basis whatsoever
1157
00:56:49,165 --> 00:56:51,099
in which it was proper
1158
00:56:51,167 --> 00:56:55,103
for anyone to touch
our property
1159
00:56:55,171 --> 00:56:57,230
in an unauthorized fashion.
1160
00:56:57,307 --> 00:57:00,606
They got guys out there
that are mugging people
in the subways,
1161
00:57:00,677 --> 00:57:04,113
stabbing people,
throwing people onto
the tracks and all that,
1162
00:57:04,180 --> 00:57:08,014
and they're wasting
their bullshit money
trying to get us.
1163
00:57:08,084 --> 00:57:10,609
With all respect,
I think you are close
1164
00:57:10,687 --> 00:57:12,621
to falling into the trap
1165
00:57:12,689 --> 00:57:14,953
of the 1960s culture,
1166
00:57:15,024 --> 00:57:17,959
which says
this society has left
1167
00:57:18,027 --> 00:57:21,121
these kids
with not enough to do.
1168
00:57:21,197 --> 00:57:23,791
If the kids have energy
and want to do something,
1169
00:57:23,867 --> 00:57:26,131
we'll give them all brooms,
1170
00:57:26,202 --> 00:57:28,136
we'll give them all sponges,
1171
00:57:28,204 --> 00:57:31,139
and they can do something that
is publicly productive,
1172
00:57:31,207 --> 00:57:34,301
useful and that would earn
for them the respect
1173
00:57:34,377 --> 00:57:37,312
and approbation
of their fellow citizens.
1174
00:57:37,380 --> 00:57:40,144
It isn't the energy
that is misplaced,
1175
00:57:40,216 --> 00:57:42,548
it's the value system
that is misplaced.
1176
00:57:44,254 --> 00:57:46,085
( Wagnerian orchestral
music plays )
1177
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:37,973
I think it's great
for the riding public
1178
00:58:38,041 --> 00:58:41,374
to be up on the station,
one cold and dreary day
1179
00:58:41,444 --> 00:58:43,969
and see a nice white,
1180
00:58:44,047 --> 00:58:46,572
shiny car come pulling up
to the station.
1181
00:58:46,649 --> 00:58:48,742
The public has knocked us
for so long,
1182
00:58:48,818 --> 00:58:51,082
that we are doing nothing.
It couldn't be done.
1183
00:58:51,154 --> 00:58:52,587
We proved that we done it.
1184
00:58:52,655 --> 00:58:56,091
We painted 409 cars
in approximately eight weeks.
1185
00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:58,252
24 hours a day,
seven days a week
1186
00:58:58,328 --> 00:59:01,024
and not one day did we miss
that production schedule.
1187
00:59:01,097 --> 00:59:02,758
Our personal pride was hurt.
1188
00:59:02,832 --> 00:59:05,801
A lot of people been knocking
the transit authority,
1189
00:59:05,868 --> 00:59:08,530
and we wanted to show them
that we could do something.
1190
00:59:08,605 --> 00:59:10,835
If the Japanese can do it,
we can do it.
1191
00:59:17,013 --> 00:59:19,106
Man:
The stuff is like
razor blades--
1192
00:59:19,182 --> 00:59:22,447
about two inches long
and there's one of these
every two inches.
1193
00:59:22,518 --> 00:59:24,611
There's really not too much
protective clothing
1194
00:59:24,687 --> 00:59:27,281
you can wear to prevent
yourself from getting cut.
1195
00:59:27,357 --> 00:59:29,291
And once you do fall into it,
1196
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:31,793
it's so structured that
it collapses upon you
1197
00:59:31,861 --> 00:59:34,489
and the more you try to move,
the worse off you become.
1198
00:59:34,564 --> 00:59:37,294
It's like in the movies,
like in "Apocalypse Now,"
1199
00:59:37,367 --> 00:59:39,961
they used it
to protect their lines
and their barricades.
1200
00:59:40,036 --> 00:59:43,005
They want to hold back
the enemy from destroying
our trains.
1201
00:59:57,387 --> 00:59:59,446
Mayor Koch:
About three years ago,
1202
00:59:59,522 --> 01:00:01,820
I decided to suggest
1203
01:00:01,891 --> 01:00:03,654
to Dick Ravitch
1204
01:00:03,726 --> 01:00:06,490
that they put a dog
1205
01:00:06,562 --> 01:00:08,325
in the yard to keep
1206
01:00:08,398 --> 01:00:10,161
the graffiti vandals out.
1207
01:00:10,233 --> 01:00:12,667
The MTA rejected it
1208
01:00:12,735 --> 01:00:14,498
and they said,
1209
01:00:14,570 --> 01:00:16,663
no, that if you put
a dog in the yard,
1210
01:00:16,739 --> 01:00:18,832
the dog would step
on the third rail.
1211
01:00:18,908 --> 01:00:21,502
Now, I don't happen
to think that dogs step
on the third rail,
1212
01:00:21,577 --> 01:00:23,670
but I said in response
to that,
1213
01:00:23,746 --> 01:00:26,180
"If you think the dog will
step on the third rail,
1214
01:00:26,249 --> 01:00:29,184
then build two fences
and have the dog run between
1215
01:00:29,252 --> 01:00:31,846
the two fences
and that will keep people out
1216
01:00:31,921 --> 01:00:34,856
and protect the dog from
stepping on the third rail. "
1217
01:00:34,924 --> 01:00:37,722
And the response was,
"Maybe somebody will climb
1218
01:00:37,794 --> 01:00:40,854
over the fence and the dog
will bite them."
1219
01:00:40,930 --> 01:00:43,592
I said, "I thought that was
what the dog was for."
1220
01:00:43,666 --> 01:00:47,966
But if you're afraid of having
the dog bite such a vandal,
1221
01:00:48,037 --> 01:00:51,973
and here I called upon
my prodigious memory, I said,
1222
01:00:52,041 --> 01:00:54,942
"What you should do then,
instead of using a dog,
1223
01:00:55,011 --> 01:00:57,138
is to use a wolf,
and have a wolf
1224
01:00:57,213 --> 01:00:58,976
run between
the two fences.
1225
01:00:59,048 --> 01:01:02,484
Because there is
no recorded case in history
1226
01:01:02,552 --> 01:01:06,989
where a wolf
has ever attacked
1227
01:01:07,056 --> 01:01:11,322
a human being unless
the wolf were rabid-- mad."
1228
01:01:11,394 --> 01:01:13,328
As a result of telling
that story
1229
01:01:13,396 --> 01:01:15,330
innumerable times,
1230
01:01:15,398 --> 01:01:18,492
I embarrassed the MTA
into building the fence
1231
01:01:18,568 --> 01:01:22,163
around the first
of 19 yards.
1232
01:01:22,238 --> 01:01:24,172
And it was so successful
1233
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,333
they now claim it
as their own idea
1234
01:01:26,409 --> 01:01:28,843
and they're building
18 more fences.
1235
01:01:28,911 --> 01:01:32,870
( Wagnerian orchestral
music plays )
1236
01:01:54,036 --> 01:01:55,936
Iz:
I think it's stupid.
1237
01:01:56,005 --> 01:01:58,303
The idea of having
all this barbed wire
1238
01:01:58,374 --> 01:02:00,467
and fences
and protection.
1239
01:02:00,543 --> 01:02:02,875
Trains are still going
to get written on.
1240
01:02:02,945 --> 01:02:05,379
They invented
the white elephant.
1241
01:02:05,448 --> 01:02:07,382
It's still got--
1242
01:02:07,450 --> 01:02:09,145
well, they weren't bombed,
1243
01:02:09,218 --> 01:02:11,982
but they had
little mosquito bites.
call it what you want.
1244
01:02:12,054 --> 01:02:13,646
They were still written on.
1245
01:02:13,723 --> 01:02:15,657
They're still not spotless,
completely.
1246
01:02:17,059 --> 01:02:19,857
"Dump Koch."
Well, there you go.
1247
01:02:19,929 --> 01:02:23,660
That is the highest praise
imaginable because,
1248
01:02:23,733 --> 01:02:25,701
obviously,
I'm getting to them.
1249
01:02:36,412 --> 01:02:39,347
There always will be graffiti.
It's a part of New York.
1250
01:02:39,415 --> 01:02:41,007
It'll be there forever.
1251
01:02:41,083 --> 01:02:43,517
Someone will always want
to jump down on the track,
1252
01:02:43,586 --> 01:02:45,850
or while the train's moving
and just take out
1253
01:02:45,922 --> 01:02:48,618
a can of paint or a marker
and put up their initial.
1254
01:02:48,691 --> 01:02:50,955
He still shows me
all his things,
1255
01:02:51,027 --> 01:02:52,927
which I don't
even want to see.
1256
01:02:55,865 --> 01:02:57,833
But we still talk.
1257
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:00,130
He tells me just about
everything that goes on.
1258
01:03:00,203 --> 01:03:03,138
Other than that,
I wouldn't really be able
to tell you so much.
1259
01:03:03,206 --> 01:03:05,800
And, sometimes--
knowing all this,
1260
01:03:05,875 --> 01:03:09,003
it just really only makes me
that much more fearful for him.
1261
01:03:09,078 --> 01:03:11,137
I felt that I just had
to let her know,
1262
01:03:11,214 --> 01:03:13,648
'cause sometimes when it's time
to go bombing,
1263
01:03:13,716 --> 01:03:15,809
you got to go late--
in the middle of the night.
1264
01:03:15,885 --> 01:03:17,978
You've got to leave
the house at 2:00
1265
01:03:18,054 --> 01:03:20,181
just to go bombing
so you don't get caught.
1266
01:03:22,058 --> 01:03:24,288
You know, she got
to know where I'm going,
1267
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,089
can't just say I'm going
to a party.
1268
01:03:26,162 --> 01:03:28,153
No party's going
to start at 2:00.
1269
01:03:28,231 --> 01:03:30,825
Not every kid would tell
his mother where he's going.
1270
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:34,836
Yeah, well, I'd rather let
my mother know what's going on,
1271
01:03:34,904 --> 01:03:36,667
you know, than keep
her in the dark.
1272
01:03:36,739 --> 01:03:38,468
If I get busted,
cops call,
1273
01:03:38,541 --> 01:03:41,510
"Excuse me,
we have your son
for graffiti."
1274
01:03:41,577 --> 01:03:44,171
And I'd rather
let her know that
I was doing it
1275
01:03:44,247 --> 01:03:46,374
so she's prepared
to come and get me out.
1276
01:03:48,684 --> 01:03:50,447
But, I'm never
getting busted,
1277
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:52,316
so we don't have
to worry about that.
1278
01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:03,464
Dondi:
I mean, an adult,
1279
01:04:03,532 --> 01:04:05,966
I just couldn't see
an adult ever
1280
01:04:06,035 --> 01:04:08,469
putting that much energy
into something that
1281
01:04:08,537 --> 01:04:11,301
isn't going to pay,
or is going to risk their life
1282
01:04:11,374 --> 01:04:14,901
or have the possibility
of them getting arrested.
1283
01:04:14,977 --> 01:04:17,810
I see myself eventually
growing out of graf
1284
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,041
and getting married
1285
01:04:20,116 --> 01:04:22,050
and living the lifestyle,
you know,
1286
01:04:22,118 --> 01:04:24,313
and making good money,
like that.
1287
01:04:24,387 --> 01:04:26,651
And when life is at its best,
1288
01:04:26,722 --> 01:04:29,486
you don't really want
to run around in the trains.
1289
01:04:29,558 --> 01:04:31,492
I'm sure I'll come back
every now and then,
1290
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,425
just to let people know
I'm still around.
1291
01:04:33,496 --> 01:04:35,623
Oh, no. When I come back,
I take over.
1292
01:04:35,698 --> 01:04:37,598
And that's it.
After that.
1293
01:04:37,667 --> 01:04:40,659
- And after that--
- You want the prince
of the 6s?
1294
01:04:40,736 --> 01:04:43,500
I'm king right here.
I'm the prince of the 6s.
1295
01:04:43,572 --> 01:04:46,507
He's later. You know,
he's one of the has-beens--
1296
01:04:46,575 --> 01:04:49,601
I'm what they call a has-been,
and he's a wannabe.
1297
01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:51,977
A wannabe?
1298
01:04:52,048 --> 01:04:54,608
- So they consider you a king?
- Put it this way:
1299
01:04:54,684 --> 01:04:56,618
I am a king.
I could say--
1300
01:04:56,686 --> 01:04:58,119
King of what?
1301
01:04:58,187 --> 01:05:00,621
I want to tell you,
I am the king of bombing.
1302
01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:03,090
You got to be able to take over
a line with insides,
1303
01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:05,286
take it over with throw-ups,
top-to-bottoms,
1304
01:05:05,361 --> 01:05:06,794
you got to do everything.
1305
01:05:06,862 --> 01:05:08,796
If you specialize
in one thing,
1306
01:05:08,864 --> 01:05:11,458
you really can't call yourself
an all-out king.
1307
01:05:11,534 --> 01:05:13,798
Who's king?
You're looking at him,
right here.
1308
01:05:13,869 --> 01:05:15,632
The original.
Know what I'm saying?
1309
01:05:15,705 --> 01:05:17,468
Kingdom Islam;
Nation god,
1310
01:05:17,540 --> 01:05:19,474
for I'm the one
that rocks so far.
1311
01:05:19,542 --> 01:05:22,807
Always rocking
the jazziest car,
know what I'm saying?
1312
01:05:22,878 --> 01:05:25,312
The only and the original
Magnetic King,
1313
01:05:25,381 --> 01:05:28,282
and that's the one
that's still sitting here
doing his thing.
1314
01:05:30,886 --> 01:05:32,979
You know it.
We all alive.
1315
01:05:33,055 --> 01:05:35,148
This is the original
old master killer
1316
01:05:35,224 --> 01:05:36,782
of the "Manila Thrilla,"
right here
1317
01:05:36,859 --> 01:05:39,419
that you're looking at.
The original king and love
to do his thing.
1318
01:05:39,495 --> 01:05:42,020
Don't shout, don't run,
don't hide, don't sky.
1319
01:05:42,098 --> 01:05:44,498
This is me coming to you
natural and live.
1320
01:05:44,567 --> 01:05:46,501
On CB...whatever.
1321
01:05:46,569 --> 01:05:48,469
Ha, Ha!
CB without the mike.
1322
01:05:53,342 --> 01:05:55,469
* Get funky in the place *
1323
01:05:58,681 --> 01:06:00,649
* Get funky in the place *
1324
01:06:05,250 --> 01:06:08,344
* Like a little jelly bean,
I'm a sweet like a candy cane *
1325
01:06:08,420 --> 01:06:11,514
* I make you get down,
just a number one stain
on the train *
1326
01:06:11,590 --> 01:06:13,683
* Just groovin' like
a sage y'all *
1327
01:06:13,759 --> 01:06:15,852
* Just breakin' up,
yeah, yeah, stage all *
1328
01:06:15,928 --> 01:06:18,419
* Like a rollercoaster ride
that can make ya bump *
1329
01:06:18,497 --> 01:06:21,295
* Just groovin' with the rhythm
as you shake your rump *
1330
01:06:21,366 --> 01:06:23,857
* You got the rock rock
you don't stop *
1331
01:06:23,936 --> 01:06:26,530
* Yo baby, yo, ya got it
rockin'you don't stop *
1332
01:06:26,605 --> 01:06:29,301
* Just hip-hop the day down
doobie doo *
1333
01:06:29,374 --> 01:06:31,934
* Yeah, scoobie do,
what you gonna do, crew? *
1334
01:06:32,010 --> 01:06:34,672
* Just freak out, yeah, baby *
1335
01:06:34,746 --> 01:06:37,237
* Just freak up, yeah, baby *
1336
01:06:37,316 --> 01:06:39,807
* Drink it up, dear
I know, my dear *
1337
01:06:39,885 --> 01:06:42,581
* I can rock you out
this atmosphere *
1338
01:06:42,654 --> 01:06:45,088
* Like gangster prankster,
number one banker *
1339
01:06:45,157 --> 01:06:47,921
* Got the much cash
to make you thank you *
1340
01:06:47,993 --> 01:06:50,188
* Rock on into
the break of dawn *
1341
01:06:50,262 --> 01:06:53,231
* Break of dawn,
keep it on, keep it on *
1342
01:06:53,298 --> 01:06:55,892
* I know ZZ
that can rock quick *
1343
01:06:55,968 --> 01:06:58,459
* Like the iconoclast
panzerhythm to the stick *
1344
01:06:58,537 --> 01:07:01,165
* Just 'a rock on
like a finger lick *
1345
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,572
* Finger poppin', hop poppin'
that don't stop *
1346
01:07:03,642 --> 01:07:06,110
* Bunny rock, bunny rock,
you don't stop *
1347
01:07:06,178 --> 01:07:09,147
* This is the mellow
they call the Ramel *
1348
01:07:09,214 --> 01:07:11,682
* That rocks with rhythm
that'd shock your spell *
1349
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:14,446
* When the shake up kid that
wakes you up in the morning *
1350
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:17,249
* Gotta wake with the rhythm
like a number one wrote it *
1351
01:07:17,322 --> 01:07:19,688
* M.C. quick just to make
your fingerbutter *
1352
01:07:19,758 --> 01:07:21,191
* Shock with the rhythm *
1353
01:07:21,260 --> 01:07:23,091
* I'm the number one
undercover *
1354
01:07:23,161 --> 01:07:25,891
* Break it up,
just shake it up ro-di-o-ah. *
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