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ANNOUNCER: Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch...
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JACK:
According to the weather,
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we got maybe two hours
before full blizzard,
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so we gotta move fast.
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It looks like it's trying
to fly through a force field.
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ROBERT: It's a huge
magnetic disturbance.
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That's typically gonna be
indicative of a void.
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There might be a UFO buried
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somewhere on the mountain
and underground.
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JACK:
There's something under there
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and it's trying it's darndest
not to be found.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Hopefully, this is enough
to breach the tunnel.
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ANDY: So we're not just
kicking the hornet's nest,
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we're just blowing
the [bleep] out of it.
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Fire in the hole.
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[explosion blasting]
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ANNOUNCER: For years,
scientists have been working
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to reveal the secrets
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible that
the clues to unlock the mystery
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are located beyond the borders
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of this hub of high strangeness?
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- Now...
- Whoa!
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ANNOUNCER: an ex-CIA agent
and a veteran journalist
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have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high stakes mission
across America.
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PAUL: Look at all this
activity that's happening.
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- That's unbelievable.
- ANDY: My gosh. Look at that!
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ANNOUNCER: The goal,
uncover evidence
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that may finally
expose the truth.
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- What is that thing?
- It's getting more intense?
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You ever seen
anything like this before?
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[man] No.
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ANDY:
This is just the beginning.
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TRAVIS: Guys, welcome back
to Skinwalker Ranch.
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I know when you left,
you had some exciting things
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that you wanted to go
and explore
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and we're really excited to see
what you may have come up with.
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This one's a little bit
different because Brandon
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has actually set us up
with an outside investigator.
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PAUL: Yeah, an investigator
named Carl Andreasen.
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Carl is the guy
who's been working
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on a place called
Mount Wilson Ranch in Nevada,
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and he's really been
trying to dig into
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the high strangeness
going on there
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- and there's a lot.
- So where is Mount Wilson Ranch?
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ANDY: So, we're about
80 miles from Area 51.
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TRAVIS: And near
the Nevada Test Range?
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- ANDY: Yes, sir.
- PAUL: Right on top of it.
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ANDY: And we're not quite sure
exactly where the boundary is
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'cause it's a very rural
part of Nevada.
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Well, that brings me
to the question then.
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What can you tell us
about the interest?
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Like, what's the commonality
with the...
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With the research
that's gone on here?
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PAUL: The connection between
Mount Wilson and this place
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is pretty extraordinary.
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It's another property
that Bob Bigelow owned,
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really at the same time
as Skinwalker.
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ANNOUNCER: Aerospace
entrepreneur Robert Bigelow
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owned Skinwalker Ranch
before Brandon Fugal.
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BRANDON:
In 1996, Robert Bigelow,
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bought Skinwalker Ranch.
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When his team conducted
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a very aggressive
scientific investigation,
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the Bigelow team ended up
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having all sorts of
strange things happen.
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They started seeing everything
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from electromagnetic anomalies,
cattle mutilations.
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It involves the full gamut
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of unexplained phenomena
that we continue to monitor.
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ANNOUNCER: It has only
recently been learned
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that Robert Bigelow
was conducting
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a similar investigation
at Mount Wilson Ranch.
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Yeah, so we've got
some archival images
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that show Bigelow on this ranch.
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The main thing that
was of interest to Bigelow
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was that he suspected
there was a crashed
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or downed UFO underground
a portion of the ranch.
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- Okay.
- PAUL: Yeah, what we don't know
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is what kind of testing
Bigelow carried out there
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or... or what they found.
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We don't have any of their
results or research.
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Yeah, I'm familiar
with that problem.
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ANDY: But then what
we've heard from Carl
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who actually investigates
and explores the ranch,
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is that there
is a potential existence
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of some sort of top secret
tunnel system on Mount Wilson.
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There's all kinds of reports
of strange lights,
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noises underground, vibrations.
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You know, there are voids
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and potentially,
spaces underground,
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but we don't know
the extent of that network
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or how much of it may be manmade
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and how much of it
is naturally occurring.
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ANDY: One of the most
interesting things about this
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is that the current property
owner, Jeff MacBurnie,
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actually bought
the property from Bigelow.
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Yeah, what we don't know
is what Bigelow may have told
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or not told Jeff
when he bought the property.
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So, we've got a couple
of field realities
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that we're also trying
to work through here.
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We only have a few days
that we can be on site
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and our weather reports are
showing that there is a storm
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that is due to hit
about six days after we land.
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PAUL: It's gonna be...
It's gonna be tight.
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And you... and you don't know
how much property
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you have to... to investigate.
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Yeah. And it's just
a big remote place.
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We're gonna be
trekking around out there
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trying to figure it out.
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But what we do know
is that we wanna make sure
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that our efforts in Mount Wilson
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help the Skinwalker
investigations
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that you guys
are carrying out here as well.
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Who knows? Maybe you'll find
something large,
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something significant.
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If you do find a buried UFO,
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you better call me
at that moment.
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[all laughing]
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'Cause I'll be there...
I will be there instantly.
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Yes, all right, stay in touch
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and let us know
what you find out.
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- We'll see you in a week.
- All right, guys.
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- ERIK: Stay in touch guys.
- All right, man.
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- Thanks guys.
- TRAVIS: Be safe.
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[pensive music playing]
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ANDY: We have been
driving for hours, man,
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- and look at what greets us.
- It's just amazing.
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I can't believe
we're in the desert right now.
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I know, well, high desert
and winter, right, this is it.
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ANDY: Yeah.
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You know, I'm not surprised
that Robert Bigelow
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would buy a place out here
to do experimentation
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because it fits his MO, right?
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Find a place way off the map
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where you're not
gonna be bothered,
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you're not gonna be disturbed,
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carry out
whatever research you want.
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And we know that Bigelow
was here with his team
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for more than a decade.
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That's a lot of time
to be researching...
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- Yeah, that's true.
- A plot of land.
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Ten years up here
in the mountains.
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I mean, they must have been
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- on the trail of something.
- Something big.
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PAUL: Something
that still is a secret.
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ANNOUNCER: From the 1960s
through the '80s,
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Mount Wilson Ranch
was a Wild West themed hotel
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and resort property
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before being purchased
by Robert Bigelow in 1996.
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- ANDY: All right. Wow.
- PAUL: Look at this.
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ANDY: This place looks like
genuine old West.
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PAUL: Absolutely.
Right out of the movies, man.
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ANDY:
I'm excited to meet Jeff.
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PAUL: Yeah.
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Hello there, gentlemen.
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Hey, Jeff. Andy.
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- Andy. You got it, man.
- Nice to meet you.
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- Great to finally see you.
- Welcome to the ranch.
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- ANDY: This is amazing.
- JEFF: Thank you.
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Tell us the story of this place.
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My whole goal was to basically
buy a big chunk of property,
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build a center building,
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let my family
and relatives live around me.
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Got it.
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JEFF:
So, I was looking for property
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and I read this
little listing in the back
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of a 25 cent newspaper article.
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PAUL: No way.
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And I purchased
the ranch directly
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from Mr. Robert Bigelow.
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It was in 2007.
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- And you've been here since?
- Yes.
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And what has been your personal
firsthand experience?
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You see a lot of things
in the sky around here.
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I hear 'em explained as orbs,
but they're just lights.
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Whether they're orange
or they're white,
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almost like a haze.
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And the lights just...
[imitates whooshing]
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and, you know,
some of them are fast
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and you look and it's...
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Others are just slow.
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And they all seem
to go right towards
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the actual Mount Wilson.
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And they just...
and just poof, disappear.
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Wow.
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Did you know
about that beforehand?
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Did you buy
this place because...
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- No, not at all.
- Of the stories?
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- Not even at all. No.
- Got it.
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PAUL: One of the things
that interests me the most
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is that when Jeff
was looking into buying a ranch,
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he didn't know anything
about this place.
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Not until he got very close
to actually closing the deal
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did he find out
just the beginning
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of the lore
of what had happened here.
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So, he didn't come here
with a predetermined notion
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of what was out here.
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What has happened
to him is... is authentic.
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Bigelow bought
this place in '96.
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- Yes.
- Sold it to you in 2007.
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- Yes.
- So, he had it
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- for more than a decade.
- Yes.
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That's about the same time
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as he owned
Skinwalker Ranch, isn't it?
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Within two weeks, he purchased
both of these ranches.
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PAUL:
As sort of two sites for
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an experiment
or two sites of research?
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It makes perfect sense
because you can compare results
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in real time
on two separate locations.
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You can have two real time teams
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running experiments,
even the same experiment.
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I'm contacted pretty often
by former people
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that were related
to this property, scientists.
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You have scientists calling you?
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- I do.
- To find out what exactly?
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If I've found something.
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You know, they believe
down in our meadow
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there's an object,
something buried.
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ANDY: What kind of object?
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JEFF:
There's a UFO buried there.
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ANDY: Wow.
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ANDY:
Jeff's telling these stories
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that are almost unbelievable,
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but there's this
incredible connection,
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this connection
that can't be ignored
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between Skinwalker Ranch,
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which was owned
by Robert Bigelow
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and Mount Wilson Ranch,
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which was also owned
by Robert Bigelow.
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At this point,
I have to find more information
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to come up with
a really informed opinion
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of what's happening here.
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I cannot help, but just
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right now I feel like
I'm on Skinwalker Ranch.
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I was gonna say, we've heard
this... Seen this movie before.
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And I... and I... I can't...
It's... I'm losing my words.
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So, you have researchers
following up with you
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because they believe there
might be sort of alien craft
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buried in a meadow
on this property.
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Apparently, down in the meadow,
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there's something
that emits a signal.
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PAUL: Interesting.
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There's a lot of...
A lot of history
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in the ground around here.
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- Can we go check it out?
- Let's do it.
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- Please. Thank you.
- You got it.
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Great. This is super exciting.
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If you guys want,
I do have Carl here,
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- if we wanna split up possibly.
- Okay.
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[tense music playing]
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ANNOUNCER: While Paul
splits off to investigate
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with researcher Carl Andreasen,
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Andy and Mount Wilson Ranch
owner, Jeff MacBurnie,
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head down to the lower meadow,
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which was once a focus of
Robert Bigelow's investigation.
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Right here, we
have a lot of pictures
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of the NIDS team actually
out researching.
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History has it
that there's a tractor
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that's located
at Skinwalker Ranch now.
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That tractor was buried
to the sea right here.
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It was stuck here for two years.
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This whole meadow here...
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is a fault line
filled with sediment.
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Craw Creek runs down it here.
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- ANDY: This is the wash up here?
- JEFF: Yes.
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- ANDY: This is Craw Creek?
- JEFF: Yes.
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Is this also the area you were
mentioning in the saloon
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where they suspect there's
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some kind
of energy source buried?
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Yes. This is it.
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Everything south of here,
all Nevada Test Site.
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ANDY: I find it really
interesting on this location,
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we have
a different kind of soil.
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We have a fault line
and that this is an area
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that is also suspected
of having high energy readings.
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So, let me take a look
and see what we've got here.
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This is a simple Trifield meter.
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It's gonna give us
measurements of
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magnetic and electrical activity
in this area in real time.
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- [Trifield meter beeping]
- ANDY: All right.
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So, if you'll come
over here with me, Jeff,
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I wanna take a look at
the creek bed
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because if there is some
sort of cavity under here,
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this would
most likely be what feeds it.
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And if there
is something buried here,
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it's most likely that
this would be the entrance
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to make that hole.
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Still consistent
with the rest of the meadow.
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Wanna drop down into
that creek bed itself?
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Let's check it out.
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Whoa! We just saw it increase.
Look at this, Jeff.
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1.7.
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Those are significantly above
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what you would see
in other parts of the country.
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If 0.4 MGOs is high,
1.7 is four times as high,
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that's 400% higher.
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There's something in this area
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that's creating that change
in magnetic activity.
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And the reason magnetic
activity is important, Jeff,
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is because what does
magnetic activity always follow?
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Electrical activity.
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So this means there
is an electrical energy source
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of some sort that's creating
a magnetic field around it.
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This is interesting for sure.
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PAUL: So we're headed out
toward the mountain now?
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CARL:
Yes, we're going up to where
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these abandoned mines are
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that could be tunnels
and cave systems.
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- PAUL: Wow.
- ANNOUNCER: Paul heads out
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with veteran Mount Wilson
researcher, Carl Andreasen
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to two abandoned mine entrances
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that his investigation
suggest could be keys
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to the ranches' secrets.
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CARL: This is the first one
that Jeff actually showed me.
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Some kind of an access point.
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PAUL: So this isn't
just a depression,
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- there's an opening?
- CARL: Yes.
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So there's potential.
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This whole side of
the mountain could be, like,
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a honeycomb, a network
of tunnels and cave systems
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that lead all the way into
the mountain and underground.
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Right. This is all connected.
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- CARL: Yeah.
- PAUL: It's obvious.
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You can see
all over this hillside
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that people have been trying
to get underground here.
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And the question is why?
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Like, are these
just simply mines
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or is there something
much more mysterious?
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Is there something out
of this world down there?
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And all of that then funnels,
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it flows down right
in the meadow
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where supposedly
the craft is buried
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- and transmitting the signals.
- PAUL: Got it.
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PAUL: Brandon Fugal
connected us with Carl and...
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And Carl has a really
deep knowledge base.
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I mean, not only has he
researched the ranch itself
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here on the ground,
he has been in touch
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with a lot of
the members of Bigelow's team.
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So when Carl says
that these mines
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may be part of
some kind of tunnel network
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that leads all the way
to a buried UFO,
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I mean as wild as that sounds,
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he's got
that from the scientists
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who were here
researching before us.
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So, I mean, that's a lead
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that we've gotta try
to run down.
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We would have
to either dig it out
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or find a way to access
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and figure out which one
of these entrances
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is the best point to go in
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and see if they actually
lead somewhere.
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ANNOUNCER: In order
to thoroughly test Carl's theory
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that the abandoned mine
entrances connect
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to a possible underground
tunnel system,
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Andy and Paul
are bringing in a new team
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of geophysical survey experts,
Terra Exploration Group.
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- ANDY: Hey, morning, guys.
- BOB: Hey, morning.
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- How's it going, sir?
- How are you?
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Look at this clear sky,
wide open terrain.
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It's gonna be
a great day to collect.
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BOB: Beautiful.
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Well, we'll see
if we can pick up
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with a magnetometer,
[indistinct].
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ROBERT: All right,
so we gotta get this sucker
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up in air real quick
before it gets too cold.
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These things are a little picky.
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ANNOUNCER: In 2020,
the Skinwalker Ranch team
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used a magnetometer drone
that identified
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something significant hidden
underground next to the mesa.
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ERIK: It's telling us
there's something going on
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in the ground,
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particularly there
at the homestead area.
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I mean, it's clearly
a magnetic anomaly there.
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ANNOUNCER:
Now, the team is conducting
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the same experiment
on Mount Wilson Ranch.
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The potential for these caverns
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to be connected underground,
it's very logical.
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There's something
here underground,
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we just don't know what it is.
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ANNOUNCER: Terra's drone flies
in a pre-programmed grid pattern
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using GPS coordinates
for navigation.
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The attached magnetometer
will look for evidence
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of possible void spaces
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and tunnels below
the mine entrances.
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It will also try to pinpoint
an underground source
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for the high
electromagnetic readings
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Andy saw in the Lower Meadow.
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ROBERT:
All right, here we go.
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[drone whirring]
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ROBERT:
Beautiful. There it goes.
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All right. We're gonna
let it run a little grid.
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ANDY: So Robert, the grid,
I wanna make sure
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we cover this entrance here
and the other up the ridge.
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So, what's our range?
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ROBERT: We got probably
a couple acres.
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- ANDY: How long is this flight?
- ROBERT: It's eight minutes.
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ANDY: Eight minutes.
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ROBERT: I tell you, it does
not like flying over here.
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Does anything weird
ever happen over here?
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Because it... it... it's...
See how it's kind of squirrely?
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PAUL: I was gonna say,
it's making the grid,
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but it seems
to be flying erratically.
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Is that... is that normal?
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ROBERT: It... No, it should
fly straighter than that.
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It doesn't like something
over here, that's for sure.
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It's swinging that magnetometer
all over the place.
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ANDY: Look at that oscillation.
You see that?
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I'm gonna pause it
just for a second.
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ANDY: Hey, Robert,
do you need to... Is that safe?
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ROBERT: There's some
kind of disturbance over here
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- that it's not liking.
- PAUL: Sure looks like it.
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ROBERT: I'm gonna
bring it home real quick.
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It looks like it's trying to fly
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through a force field
or something.
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ANDY: Yeah, it's bouncing
all over the place.
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Come on.
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ANDY: Did you lose
control of it?
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PAUL: That is way off track.
That is way off track.
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[all exclaim]
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ROBERT: There it goes.
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Dang it.
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- PAUL: I heard it hit wood.
- ROBERT: Oh, yeah.
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ANDY: It's stuck
in a tree or something?
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It's in here somewhere.
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- ANDY: Found it.
- ROBERT: You got it?
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- Oh, no.
- PAUL: Oof.
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[drone beeping]
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Did we lose a prop or a motor?
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Yeah, you lost a little bit.
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PAUL: That's unfortunate.
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This came off, um,
looks like we lost a motor.
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- This snapped.
- I wonder where that motor went.
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And it ripped the wires off.
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So, Robert,
do you know what happened?
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Something weird, I've never seen
it fly all erratic like that.
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We do this, you know,
we do this all the time.
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00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:18,583
Yeah, there's no wind.
It's not that cold.
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I mean, it's almost
like it was being jammed or...
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That was the same thought
that went through my head.
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ANDY: With our proximity
to the Nevada Test Site,
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this is a known area
of high strangeness
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and a known research
facility for NIDS
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and that was performance
from a piece of equipment
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that we did not expect
to perform in that way.
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It's consistent
with anomalous activity
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we've seen in Skinwalker Ranch
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and what we've seen
in our previous investigation.
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What I saw play out
was not natural.
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There is something
happening here
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that brought that drone down.
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If there is some
sort of downed aircraft
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emitting a signal,
emitting energy,
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it could be enough
to scramble a satellite signal.
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It could also be enough
to confuse an electronic device
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as sophisticated as a drone.
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Well, what we'll have to do
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is old school like
we used to do all the time.
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We can walk it,
but it's a lot of walking.
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Can you pull the data
that you got so far?
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I'd say we got
at least half of it.
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We can put
the young buck walking a grid.
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PAUL: And then follow that down
to the Lower Meadow as well.
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Brogan, I'll help you get
set up for the ground survey.
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- Sounds good.
- Great. All right.
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Let's do it.
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ANDY: All right.
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ROBERT:
Zig zag back and forth.
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And you can
just carry that by itself.
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Well, you would hang it
a foot off the ground,
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something like that,
and just walk with it.
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PAUL: Let's go, man.
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ANNOUNCER: The team pulls
the magnetometer device
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off the crashed drone
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to finish the void survey
by hand and foot.
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ANDY: So, we're just gonna
cut back and forth
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and we'll make maybe
three passes across here?
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ANNOUNCER:
Although it's a slower process,
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they'll still be able to scan
the rest of the mine area.
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- ANDY: And back up the hill?
- BROGAN: Yes, sir.
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Right down the middle.
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ANNOUNCER: They will also do
a magnetometer survey
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of the entire
lower meadow by hand,
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where Andy earlier recorded
strange magnetic readings
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and Robert Bigelow
was reportedly searching
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for a buried UFO.
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ANDY:
Right here on the lower meadow,
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it all kinda connects.
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Just that it's so different from
the area around it, you know?
491
00:19:15,292 --> 00:19:16,833
And then our last path
will take us
492
00:19:16,917 --> 00:19:18,333
right in front of the barn?
493
00:19:18,417 --> 00:19:19,792
That should be good.
494
00:19:20,875 --> 00:19:22,250
ANNOUNCER: Later that day,
495
00:19:22,375 --> 00:19:24,333
the team gathers
at the lower meadow
496
00:19:24,417 --> 00:19:26,792
to reveal
the magnetometer results.
497
00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:28,934
ROBERT: All right guys, we got
something interesting here.
498
00:19:28,958 --> 00:19:30,500
Check that out.
499
00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:32,417
PAUL: So this is the scan
of the Lower Meadow?
500
00:19:32,542 --> 00:19:34,393
Yes, this is the bottom
of the field here, correct.
501
00:19:34,417 --> 00:19:36,268
- We're walking up the meadow.
- PAUL: Yes. Okay.
502
00:19:36,292 --> 00:19:38,292
ROBERT: But now this to me
looks like something
503
00:19:38,417 --> 00:19:40,375
is interrupting the mag signal.
504
00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:41,958
So it's like...
It's an even pulse.
505
00:19:42,083 --> 00:19:44,083
I mean, look how
evenly apart they are.
506
00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:46,375
There's something
that's just stopping it.
507
00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,542
Like, the mag
is turning on and off.
508
00:19:48,667 --> 00:19:50,542
- Right.
- ROBERT: And it could be that
509
00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:53,958
something else is disturbing
the regular magnetic field
510
00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:56,125
and it's confusing
the magnetometer.
511
00:19:56,208 --> 00:19:58,833
Have you seen
anything like this before?
512
00:19:58,958 --> 00:20:00,333
No. That's very strange.
513
00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,292
ANDY: Look at how
straight these lines are.
514
00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:04,055
The dark lines where
the pulsations happen,
515
00:20:04,125 --> 00:20:05,958
where the lack
of signal comes through.
516
00:20:06,042 --> 00:20:09,000
This does not look like
a natural, organic anomaly.
517
00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:10,750
I am blown away
because of Jeff said
518
00:20:10,875 --> 00:20:12,792
Robert Bigelow was digging here
519
00:20:12,917 --> 00:20:16,542
trying to find some sort
of unexplainable energy source
520
00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:18,434
under the ground, and now
we actually have evidence
521
00:20:18,458 --> 00:20:20,083
that shows
there is something there.
522
00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:22,375
We just don't know
how deep it might be.
523
00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:25,250
ANNOUNCER: With intriguing
results at the lower meadow,
524
00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:27,833
but no definitive
target identified,
525
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,208
Robert Leonard will now merge
the data from the crashed drone
526
00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:35,167
with their handheld magnetometer
survey at the mines.
527
00:20:35,292 --> 00:20:36,559
ROBERT:
I'm sorry it took me so long.
528
00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:38,125
ANDY: No, no. This is great.
529
00:20:38,208 --> 00:20:39,708
PAUL: What do we have?
530
00:20:39,833 --> 00:20:43,000
Well, I'll explain
what took me so long
531
00:20:43,167 --> 00:20:44,807
and it's just...
Just gonna blow you away.
532
00:20:45,792 --> 00:20:48,583
Okay, so here's
the overview of the ranch.
533
00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:50,375
These little pins
is where we did our...
534
00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,542
Kind of our survey areas.
535
00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:55,833
This area over here
around that first mine,
536
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,760
this was where we had
trouble with the drone.
537
00:20:57,875 --> 00:21:00,500
But I'll show you what...
What we ended up with here.
538
00:21:00,667 --> 00:21:02,625
And so we'll go
over this 3D view.
539
00:21:03,708 --> 00:21:06,250
- These are quite significant.
- PAUL: Wow.
540
00:21:06,375 --> 00:21:08,375
ROBERT: It's a huge
magnetic disturbance
541
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,375
that's typically gonna be
indicative of a void.
542
00:21:11,542 --> 00:21:14,167
So mine one has two voids?
543
00:21:14,292 --> 00:21:15,684
ANDY:
There's multiple entry points.
544
00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:17,228
- You can see them all.
- ROBERT: Yeah.
545
00:21:17,292 --> 00:21:19,417
And this one down here,
the one that had
546
00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:21,750
that significant drop
is the second one.
547
00:21:22,708 --> 00:21:24,333
PAUL: Because this
is a magnetic void,
548
00:21:24,458 --> 00:21:27,375
would that suggest possibly
that one and two
549
00:21:27,542 --> 00:21:30,083
and possibly something else that
we couldn't see are connected?
550
00:21:30,208 --> 00:21:31,708
-ROBERT: Exactly
-PAUL: Right?
551
00:21:31,875 --> 00:21:33,792
You know, this can connect
to the lower field.
552
00:21:33,875 --> 00:21:36,250
So, for all I know,
this is a way to get in.
553
00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:37,958
If you guys want something
554
00:21:38,042 --> 00:21:40,583
to actually explore further,
this... this is the place.
555
00:21:40,708 --> 00:21:42,726
That'd be the place to do it
'cause it's a shallowest.
556
00:21:42,750 --> 00:21:45,625
I mean, what it sounds like
we need to do is...
557
00:21:45,708 --> 00:21:48,333
Is uncover
what's below the surface.
558
00:21:48,417 --> 00:21:49,875
The question
is how do we do that?
559
00:21:50,750 --> 00:21:53,000
ANNOUNCER: In 2021,
the Skinwalker team
560
00:21:53,083 --> 00:21:54,875
found an opening in the mesa
561
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,583
that they believe leads
to an underground tunnel system.
562
00:21:57,708 --> 00:21:59,792
MAN: Hey, I found what
looks like to be a cavern.
563
00:21:59,875 --> 00:22:02,208
MAN 2: Oh, yeah.
Pretty sure this is it.
564
00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:04,458
We're hoping that we can
go drill through it
565
00:22:04,583 --> 00:22:06,583
and see if we hit any voids.
566
00:22:06,708 --> 00:22:08,917
MAN 3: This drilling process
takes a lot of time.
567
00:22:09,042 --> 00:22:10,792
ANNOUNCER: To investigate,
they brought in
568
00:22:10,875 --> 00:22:12,958
a boring machine
to drill into the rock.
569
00:22:13,042 --> 00:22:16,458
We could have found one
of the most significant finds,
570
00:22:16,583 --> 00:22:19,250
not only on the ranch, but
maybe the entire Uintah Basin.
571
00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,083
ANNOUNCER:
But with a storm rolling in,
572
00:22:21,208 --> 00:22:22,708
Andy and Paul
won't have enough time
573
00:22:22,833 --> 00:22:26,083
to bring in
a heavy duty drill of their own.
574
00:22:26,208 --> 00:22:28,417
ANDY:
Our weather reports are showing
575
00:22:28,542 --> 00:22:30,667
that there is a storm
that is due to hit tomorrow.
576
00:22:30,792 --> 00:22:32,958
We can't drill, that's...
The time and effort
577
00:22:33,042 --> 00:22:34,768
it would take
for that kind of infrastructure.
578
00:22:34,792 --> 00:22:36,750
BOB: What about explosives?
What about that?
579
00:22:36,875 --> 00:22:38,125
Just blast our way in?
580
00:22:39,042 --> 00:22:41,458
Plant a little dynamite
in there and blow it out.
581
00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:42,833
That's an alternative.
582
00:22:42,958 --> 00:22:45,000
ANDY: It's got
a lot of benefits to it.
583
00:22:45,083 --> 00:22:46,750
It's cheaper, it's faster.
584
00:22:46,875 --> 00:22:49,042
We have access points
right here in the mining area.
585
00:22:49,167 --> 00:22:50,667
With the mine results,
586
00:22:50,792 --> 00:22:52,667
we finally have something
that we can pursue,
587
00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:54,292
something that
we can take action on,
588
00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:55,893
an experiment that
we can really set up,
589
00:22:55,917 --> 00:22:57,434
but we have
to work against the weather
590
00:22:57,458 --> 00:22:58,750
and against the clock.
591
00:22:58,875 --> 00:23:00,833
And the fastest way
to get underground
592
00:23:00,917 --> 00:23:02,237
isn't through
digging or drilling,
593
00:23:02,333 --> 00:23:03,667
it's through blasting.
594
00:23:03,792 --> 00:23:05,667
What hornets' nest
might we be kicking
595
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:07,833
when we blast these mines?
596
00:23:07,958 --> 00:23:09,667
If you want answers,
you gotta do it.
597
00:23:09,792 --> 00:23:13,500
Jeff, could we actually
use explosives
598
00:23:13,625 --> 00:23:15,333
to get deeper into these caves?
599
00:23:15,458 --> 00:23:17,208
I would say let's do it.
600
00:23:17,333 --> 00:23:19,000
We happen to know
a guy pretty close by
601
00:23:19,083 --> 00:23:21,500
that's an explosive expert.
602
00:23:21,625 --> 00:23:23,292
This guy blows stuff up
for a living
603
00:23:23,375 --> 00:23:25,625
- and he loves doing it.
- Sounds good.
604
00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:27,667
Sounds like we've got
a big day ahead of us.
605
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:29,667
Get to blow some stuff up.
606
00:23:29,792 --> 00:23:32,333
ANDY: And if we're lucky,
we're gonna crawl inside.
607
00:23:32,417 --> 00:23:33,750
BOB: Yeah, exactly.
608
00:23:39,875 --> 00:23:41,833
JACK: We have a trailer
full of explosives.
609
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,417
We have a lot of gear.
610
00:23:43,542 --> 00:23:45,333
My understanding
is that our spot
611
00:23:45,417 --> 00:23:47,000
is over in that direction.
612
00:23:47,167 --> 00:23:48,917
PAUL: We're looking to open up
what we think
613
00:23:49,042 --> 00:23:50,375
are some mine entrances.
614
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:51,875
We've got a lot of evidence,
615
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,600
and we've done a lot
of research up here.
616
00:23:53,667 --> 00:23:55,792
We've run a lot of numbers that
617
00:23:55,875 --> 00:23:57,708
- there's something underground.
- Excellent.
618
00:23:57,833 --> 00:23:59,393
How much dynamite
do we have here today?
619
00:23:59,542 --> 00:24:00,667
JACK: Well...
620
00:24:01,625 --> 00:24:03,500
we've got about
500 of these sticks.
621
00:24:03,625 --> 00:24:05,434
- PAUL: 500 sticks of dynamite.
- ANDY: Oh, man.
622
00:24:05,458 --> 00:24:06,978
Plus some extra materials
like boosters
623
00:24:07,042 --> 00:24:08,667
that actually make
these go even harder.
624
00:24:08,792 --> 00:24:11,375
What I wanna do
is surgical blasting.
625
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,500
We don't wanna blow
the side of the mountain up.
626
00:24:13,625 --> 00:24:15,667
We just want to carefully
cut into that tunnel
627
00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:17,625
so we can get into it safely
628
00:24:17,708 --> 00:24:19,668
and not have rocks
fall on us once we're in there.
629
00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:21,726
PAUL: So let's clear it out
and then we'll set the charge.
630
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:23,190
- Let's pack it up.
- CARL: Let's go.
631
00:24:25,375 --> 00:24:26,833
MAN: I brought the shovel.
632
00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,583
- PAUL: This is my number one.
- JACK: Okay.
633
00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:31,417
PAUL: The more of this
we can get out
634
00:24:31,542 --> 00:24:33,333
before we set the charge,
the better.
635
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:35,792
ANNOUNCER: With the impending
storm closing in
636
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,708
and time drawing short,
the team decides to use
637
00:24:38,833 --> 00:24:41,667
Jeff's excavator to dig down
as far as possible
638
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:43,500
prior to blasting.
639
00:24:43,625 --> 00:24:45,208
JACK: That's a lot more
than we could do
640
00:24:45,375 --> 00:24:47,042
with our shovels,
that's for sure.
641
00:24:47,167 --> 00:24:48,893
ANNOUNCER: This will not only
increase their chances
642
00:24:48,917 --> 00:24:51,333
of reaching the potential
tunnel entrances
643
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:53,125
with single targeted blasts.
644
00:24:53,208 --> 00:24:54,833
We gotta crack that open
645
00:24:54,958 --> 00:24:57,000
and try to get in there
and take a look today.
646
00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:59,333
ANNOUNCER: But will also
reduce the chance of injury
647
00:24:59,458 --> 00:25:01,750
from deadly rock projectiles.
648
00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:04,583
PAUL: Let's take a look.
Jack, you tell me.
649
00:25:04,708 --> 00:25:06,792
JACK: You got a nice hole
there to put a charge into.
650
00:25:06,917 --> 00:25:08,517
PAUL: Oh, look at that crack
right there.
651
00:25:08,625 --> 00:25:09,934
- Yep.
- JACK: It almost looks like
652
00:25:09,958 --> 00:25:11,750
there's almost a front edge.
653
00:25:11,875 --> 00:25:13,726
- PAUL: Yeah. Right there.
- That might go underneath there.
654
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:15,393
PAUL: Right underneath
that much ledge right there.
655
00:25:15,417 --> 00:25:16,833
Jack and I hit
it with the probe?
656
00:25:16,958 --> 00:25:18,292
Absolutely.
657
00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:20,000
PAUL: All right.
658
00:25:21,208 --> 00:25:22,208
Step down here.
659
00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:25,583
You can see
that whole chunk of rock
660
00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:27,542
is cracked off the top there.
661
00:25:27,708 --> 00:25:29,542
CARL: You got
a lot of loose material.
662
00:25:29,708 --> 00:25:31,308
ANDY: Wait.
Listen to that, guys. Listen.
663
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:32,875
[clanking]
664
00:25:35,792 --> 00:25:37,292
PAUL:
Sounded hollow for a minute.
665
00:25:37,417 --> 00:25:39,875
It did sound hollow
for a minute.
666
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,750
- Just be careful down there.
- PAUL: Yeah.
667
00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:43,351
I mean, that...
This might not be stable,
668
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:44,667
so I'm not gonna poke around
669
00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:46,500
under there anymore right now.
670
00:25:46,667 --> 00:25:48,167
Let's check out number two.
671
00:25:48,292 --> 00:25:51,167
[tense music plays]
672
00:25:53,708 --> 00:25:55,583
BRANDON:
So, this is the big one.
673
00:25:55,708 --> 00:25:57,788
Hole number two is where
we have the largest readings
674
00:25:57,833 --> 00:25:59,500
of open void space.
675
00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,351
PAUL: This is the deepest
anomaly we've found.
676
00:26:01,375 --> 00:26:02,958
Right?
As far as we can tell.
677
00:26:03,042 --> 00:26:06,250
- CARL: Wow.
- JACK: Look at all the sawdust.
678
00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:08,000
PAUL:
Somebody filled this in.
679
00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:10,125
It's not solid yet, though.
It's still loose.
680
00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:11,917
Look at all this wood.
681
00:26:12,042 --> 00:26:13,833
ANDY: And the difference
between the contents
682
00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:17,667
of this mine and the first mine
are totally different.
683
00:26:17,833 --> 00:26:19,625
All dirt and rock over there.
684
00:26:19,708 --> 00:26:22,042
This is just,
this was filled with lumber.
685
00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:24,750
I don't know how that wood
would get in there, honestly.
686
00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:27,167
ANDY: Yeah, cut wood, like,
this has been covered back up.
687
00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:29,601
So, there's evidence that people
have filled this back in.
688
00:26:29,625 --> 00:26:31,583
JACK: And I'm not seeing
any of the ash...
689
00:26:31,708 --> 00:26:34,125
- Whoa. Look at that.
- CARL: Whoa. Look at that.
690
00:26:35,042 --> 00:26:37,875
JACK: That's pretty deep.
That's going way in there.
691
00:26:38,042 --> 00:26:40,708
PAUL:
Whoa. I'm not hitting rock here.
692
00:26:40,875 --> 00:26:43,292
I did not expect
this much sawdust.
693
00:26:43,375 --> 00:26:45,167
I mean, look at this.
694
00:26:45,292 --> 00:26:47,208
ANDY: While there's
always been a tradition
695
00:26:47,333 --> 00:26:49,143
that we've known of where
miners might put wooden planks
696
00:26:49,167 --> 00:26:51,708
on top of an abandoned hole,
that does not result
697
00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:55,208
in this level
of pulverized wood pulp.
698
00:26:55,375 --> 00:26:57,833
Who would put that much effort
into filling a hole
699
00:26:57,917 --> 00:27:00,167
with timber and for what reason?
700
00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:04,208
PAUL: So the question is,
what are they hiding?
701
00:27:04,875 --> 00:27:06,393
- This could be it.
- This is what we've been
702
00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:07,500
looking for, man.
703
00:27:07,583 --> 00:27:09,333
We're gonna find out, right?
704
00:27:09,458 --> 00:27:11,125
CARL: That's right.
705
00:27:11,208 --> 00:27:13,018
PAUL: It feels like
the wind is picking back up.
706
00:27:13,042 --> 00:27:14,708
- Maybe we should just blast.
- All right.
707
00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,125
Yeah, we just
don't have much time.
708
00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:19,167
CARL: Get the rope
around the tree and try to
709
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:20,684
get the charge
against the base there
710
00:27:20,708 --> 00:27:21,958
against that rock and maybe get
711
00:27:22,042 --> 00:27:23,667
- a good push up and out.
- JACK: Yep.
712
00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:25,518
So, we're not just
kicking the hornets' nest.
713
00:27:25,542 --> 00:27:27,101
We're just blowing
the [bleep] out of it.
714
00:27:27,125 --> 00:27:29,000
- [all laughing]
- That's a good way to put it.
715
00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:39,184
JACK: According to the weather,
we got maybe two hours
716
00:27:39,208 --> 00:27:41,583
before full blizzard,
so we gotta move fast.
717
00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:43,042
CARL: Okay.
718
00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,958
ANNOUNCER:
Andy, Paul and the team
719
00:27:45,083 --> 00:27:47,500
at Mount Wilson Ranch
have one chance
720
00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:51,000
to try to blast their way into
two abandoned mine entrances
721
00:27:51,125 --> 00:27:53,708
that might connect
to an underground tunnel system
722
00:27:53,875 --> 00:27:57,125
leading to what is rumored
to be a buried UFO.
723
00:27:57,250 --> 00:27:59,625
But a winter storm is moving in
724
00:27:59,708 --> 00:28:02,000
and could shut them down
any minute.
725
00:28:02,167 --> 00:28:04,417
PAUL: It looks like this may be
our last crack at this.
726
00:28:04,542 --> 00:28:06,208
- We gotta go big today.
- JACK: We do.
727
00:28:06,333 --> 00:28:08,042
I made a little plan for that.
728
00:28:08,167 --> 00:28:12,042
I built a charge
that is about 24 pounds.
729
00:28:12,167 --> 00:28:13,708
ANDY: Oh, my gosh!
730
00:28:13,875 --> 00:28:16,042
Hopefully, this is enough
to breach the tunnel.
731
00:28:18,875 --> 00:28:20,417
PAUL: This is
our last shot at this.
732
00:28:20,542 --> 00:28:22,518
After this storm, this is
gonna be buried for months.
733
00:28:22,542 --> 00:28:24,292
ANDY:
There's something under there
734
00:28:24,375 --> 00:28:26,875
and it's trying it's damndest
not to be found.
735
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,625
It feels like it.
We just gotta clear it out.
736
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,125
JACK: We've got
a live hole here.
737
00:28:31,208 --> 00:28:33,125
- Let's get outta here.
- ANDY: All right.
738
00:28:33,208 --> 00:28:36,458
I want this network, brother.
I wanna find this thing.
739
00:28:43,375 --> 00:28:44,667
PAUL: Wow, this weather.
740
00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:46,333
- Unbelievable.
- JACK: Yeah.
741
00:28:46,417 --> 00:28:48,333
Mother nature had
an opinion about today, man.
742
00:28:49,042 --> 00:28:50,559
- This is the second explosive.
- CARL: Yeah.
743
00:28:50,583 --> 00:28:53,333
JACK: That looks like
ACME dynamite, if ever I saw it.
744
00:28:53,458 --> 00:28:55,625
X marks the spot right here.
745
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:58,542
PAUL: All that loose
mulch and wood.
746
00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:00,917
You ever see
anything like this before?
747
00:29:01,042 --> 00:29:03,667
A hold this deep filled in
for no apparent reason?
748
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:05,083
JACK: No, I haven't.
749
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,458
Let's give that a go, shall we?
750
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:10,268
- PAUL: Let's do it.
- JACK: All right.
751
00:29:10,292 --> 00:29:12,000
All right.
Let's clear out our gear.
752
00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:14,875
All right, we got
a live charge here, guys.
753
00:29:15,042 --> 00:29:16,500
- PAUL: All right.
- JACK: Let's go.
754
00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,333
PAUL: Let's go.
We're ready to roll.
755
00:29:18,458 --> 00:29:20,375
What's the plan here, sir?
756
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,250
- One, then two?
- One's first.
757
00:29:22,375 --> 00:29:24,917
[horn blaring]
758
00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,375
- You ready?
- Yeah, brother, you kidding?
759
00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:29,375
ANDY: Safety up.
760
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:32,500
- Get in position.
- This is gonna be the big one.
761
00:29:32,625 --> 00:29:34,705
ANDY: Yeah, with the wind
trying to blow us off here.
762
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,070
PAUL:
I know. It's gonna be crazy.
763
00:29:36,167 --> 00:29:41,583
JACK:
Five, four, three, two, one.
764
00:29:41,708 --> 00:29:43,125
Fire in the hole.
765
00:29:44,375 --> 00:29:46,458
[charge explodes]
766
00:29:46,542 --> 00:29:48,875
ALL: Wow.
767
00:29:51,625 --> 00:29:53,167
JACK:
Shot fired successfully.
768
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:59,833
- ANDY: Look at this wind.
- PAUL: Wow.
769
00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,958
That storm is here.
We are officially out of time.
770
00:30:02,042 --> 00:30:03,292
- You ready?
- I'm ready.
771
00:30:05,292 --> 00:30:08,792
Stand by for shot number two.
Take good cover, all right?
772
00:30:08,917 --> 00:30:10,542
Y'all ready for a countdown?
773
00:30:10,708 --> 00:30:12,167
- ANDY: Ready.
- PAUL: Let's do this.
774
00:30:14,083 --> 00:30:19,458
JACK:
Five, four, three, two, one.
775
00:30:19,583 --> 00:30:20,792
Fire in the hole.
776
00:30:23,458 --> 00:30:25,042
[charge explodes]
777
00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:28,333
- Whoa.
- ANDY: Whoa.
778
00:30:29,417 --> 00:30:32,000
PAUL:
Wow. That was something else.
779
00:30:32,083 --> 00:30:33,559
- CARL: Beautiful.
- That looked like a good hit.
780
00:30:33,583 --> 00:30:35,000
We gotta get out there, right?
781
00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,083
Storm's worse.
Let's have a look.
782
00:30:37,208 --> 00:30:38,559
- We gotta go.
- PAUL: Go ahead, man.
783
00:30:38,583 --> 00:30:40,167
Go. Go.
784
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:42,208
JACK: Looking forward
to seeing what we did.
785
00:30:47,833 --> 00:30:49,917
- Wow.
- Look at this size of this.
786
00:30:50,042 --> 00:30:52,309
- Look at that boulder in there.
- PAUL: Take a look at that.
787
00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:54,000
JACK: Did you see
this ledge underneath?
788
00:30:54,125 --> 00:30:55,684
- ANDY: Yep.
- Paul, you see what I'm saying?
789
00:30:55,708 --> 00:30:57,333
- PAUL: Yep.
- JACK: Is that a hole?
790
00:30:57,417 --> 00:30:59,042
That looks like
the opening to something.
791
00:30:59,208 --> 00:31:01,101
- PAUL: That big boulder.
- That looks like a pocket
792
00:31:01,125 --> 00:31:02,917
- blocking something.
- PAUL: Yeah.
793
00:31:03,042 --> 00:31:04,726
JACK: I think there's something
behind that rock.
794
00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:06,042
That's what I think.
795
00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:10,483
- Careful of those boulders, man.
- JACK: Are you guys ready?
796
00:31:13,458 --> 00:31:14,458
PAUL: Okay.
797
00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,375
Oh, wow, guys.
798
00:31:19,542 --> 00:31:23,167
So, there's more loose soil
back there, but it goes back.
799
00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:24,973
- Give me the probe.
- CARL: There you go.
800
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,375
PAUL: Look at that.
801
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,042
JEFF:
That goes in there pretty good.
802
00:31:30,167 --> 00:31:31,750
PAUL: It's just
loose stuff in there.
803
00:31:31,875 --> 00:31:33,625
- See? Look at that.
- ANDY: You're a good
804
00:31:33,708 --> 00:31:35,500
four feet in there, yeah.
805
00:31:37,042 --> 00:31:39,625
Oh, the storm's not gonna give
us a chance to get in today.
806
00:31:42,208 --> 00:31:44,667
PAUL: I'm dying to know
what's right behind the boulder,
807
00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:47,208
but we just don't have
the ability to get down there.
808
00:31:47,375 --> 00:31:49,167
We're gonna
have to leave this for now.
809
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,184
We don't have any more time.
We gotta check number two.
810
00:31:51,208 --> 00:31:52,917
- JACK: Frustrating.
- Yeah.
811
00:31:53,042 --> 00:31:54,722
CARL: But very compelling
at the same time.
812
00:31:56,708 --> 00:31:58,083
PAUL: Okay. All right.
813
00:31:58,208 --> 00:31:59,968
- Let's check number two.
- ANDY: Number two.
814
00:32:00,542 --> 00:32:01,851
JEFF: There's the hole
right up ahead.
815
00:32:01,875 --> 00:32:03,125
PAUL: Yep. Right ahead.
816
00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,500
- CARL: Hole two.
- JACK: Oh, man.
817
00:32:06,583 --> 00:32:08,000
- Wow.
- CARL: We got here.
818
00:32:08,083 --> 00:32:11,333
JACK: Wow.
We just gouged it down deeper.
819
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,333
I think we got past
our sawdust problem.
820
00:32:14,417 --> 00:32:15,833
Yeah. For sure. Yep.
821
00:32:15,917 --> 00:32:17,542
JACK:
That is just like a crater.
822
00:32:17,708 --> 00:32:19,559
Tell you what though.
It really did get cleared out.
823
00:32:19,583 --> 00:32:21,083
ANDY: It did.
824
00:32:21,208 --> 00:32:22,351
CARL: Let's just hope
that bottom's loose.
825
00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:24,542
- Careful boss.
- ANDY: Got it.
826
00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:26,309
- JACK: Pretty soft there still.
- ANDY: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
827
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:27,833
- JACK: Careful.
- Thank you.
828
00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:29,333
JACK:
That's right. That's our...
829
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,750
ANDY: Unstable ledge.
830
00:32:30,875 --> 00:32:32,542
- PAUL: Yeah.
- CARL: Watch it.
831
00:32:35,375 --> 00:32:37,708
- ANDY: Paul?
- Yeah, what do you think, man?
832
00:32:37,875 --> 00:32:40,875
ANDY: We got some softness
in this area.
833
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,667
I can feel it under here.
834
00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,708
We're just compacting it more.
835
00:32:47,958 --> 00:32:49,333
All right.
836
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,792
[sighs] Where does this
leave us, man?
837
00:32:51,875 --> 00:32:54,250
Ah. Frustrated.
838
00:32:54,375 --> 00:32:56,500
The data told us
there were voids.
839
00:32:56,667 --> 00:33:00,000
Someone used this void
to get deeper underground.
840
00:33:00,167 --> 00:33:01,809
- ANDY: Filled it in.
- PAUL: But for what?
841
00:33:01,833 --> 00:33:03,250
And then filled it back in.
842
00:33:03,375 --> 00:33:06,167
The potential
for an underground tunnel,
843
00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,167
a large antechamber
that connects
844
00:33:08,292 --> 00:33:10,917
these two holes together,
the potential's still there.
845
00:33:11,042 --> 00:33:12,722
We haven't been able
to rule it out at all.
846
00:33:12,833 --> 00:33:14,875
- Yeah.
- When I put it all together,
847
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,167
it blows my mind
that there is an energy source
848
00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:19,667
of some sort
emitting constant energy
849
00:33:19,833 --> 00:33:21,083
in the lower Meadow.
850
00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:22,875
And then,
we come out here to our
851
00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:25,458
two best opportunities
to get underground
852
00:33:25,542 --> 00:33:27,750
and we've been able
to get close, but not...
853
00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,292
Not close enough to get in.
854
00:33:29,417 --> 00:33:31,542
This is it.
This is as far as we can go
855
00:33:31,708 --> 00:33:33,167
with what we've got today
856
00:33:33,292 --> 00:33:35,000
and with these
kind of conditions.
857
00:33:35,125 --> 00:33:36,708
We've come at this
every way we can.
858
00:33:36,875 --> 00:33:38,500
We've been all over it on foot,
859
00:33:38,625 --> 00:33:41,167
we've flown drones
in the air above it,
860
00:33:41,292 --> 00:33:43,167
we've blown holes
to get underground
861
00:33:43,292 --> 00:33:45,167
to get as far
as we possibly can.
862
00:33:45,292 --> 00:33:46,750
I don't know how else to say it.
863
00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:48,395
Mount Wilson Ranch
is keeping a secret.
864
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,333
All the evidence
that we have gathered
865
00:33:50,458 --> 00:33:54,292
points to there is some kind of
energy source underground
866
00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:57,625
and that we are as close
maybe as anyone has ever been
867
00:33:57,708 --> 00:33:59,000
to figuring out what it is.
868
00:33:59,125 --> 00:34:00,833
This is just the beginning.
869
00:34:00,958 --> 00:34:02,875
- Yeah.
- ANDY: We've opened the door.
870
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,417
Nothing's been closed.
871
00:34:05,625 --> 00:34:07,665
PAUL: All right, man.
Let's get you up out of there.
872
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,042
ERIK:
Well, gentlemen, welcome back.
873
00:34:18,208 --> 00:34:19,518
- Good to be back.
- We wanna hear
874
00:34:19,542 --> 00:34:20,851
about your experience
at Mount Wilson.
875
00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:22,542
I cannot believe...
876
00:34:22,667 --> 00:34:24,500
- PAUL: Seriously.
- How crazy this place is.
877
00:34:24,583 --> 00:34:26,183
Well, I feel like
we're lucky to be back.
878
00:34:26,333 --> 00:34:27,875
That we're not just
snowed in up there
879
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,333
because there was a blizzard.
880
00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:30,818
- TRAVIS: Really?
- PAUL: Flat out.
881
00:34:30,875 --> 00:34:32,042
Didn't shut us down entirely,
882
00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:34,042
but we had a lot more work to do
883
00:34:34,167 --> 00:34:35,167
and there was no way.
884
00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:37,292
We had to basically retreat.
885
00:34:37,417 --> 00:34:39,059
ANDY: And the ranch owner
actually made a point
886
00:34:39,083 --> 00:34:41,958
to tell us how outside
of normal the storm was.
887
00:34:42,042 --> 00:34:44,542
The intensity,
the amount of snow, the cold.
888
00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:47,042
Now as you recall,
we went to this location
889
00:34:47,167 --> 00:34:49,208
specifically following
a Bigelow lead
890
00:34:49,375 --> 00:34:51,167
about a potential
underground UFO.
891
00:34:51,292 --> 00:34:53,042
- TRAVIS: Yeah.
- ANDY: And we were able
892
00:34:53,167 --> 00:34:55,667
to confirm and find a number
of correlative data sets
893
00:34:55,792 --> 00:34:59,000
that align with what you've had
here on Skinwalker Ranch.
894
00:34:59,083 --> 00:35:01,167
We started
with a very comprehensive
895
00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:02,833
magnetometer survey.
896
00:35:02,958 --> 00:35:04,750
We called in
a set of professionals
897
00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:06,018
called Terra Exploration Group.
898
00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:07,542
They had a custom-built drone
899
00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:09,351
that was built
for carrying a magnetometer.
900
00:35:09,375 --> 00:35:11,000
TRAVIS: Sounds perfect.
901
00:35:11,167 --> 00:35:12,601
And with the Terra team,
we had some locations
902
00:35:12,625 --> 00:35:14,250
that we were
gonna target, right?
903
00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:16,500
So, we knew where
we wanted to focus our energies.
904
00:35:16,625 --> 00:35:19,333
The lower meadow
and the mine area.
905
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,460
ANDY: So we've been very focused
on the mine area,
906
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,309
which is where we saw
these potential entrances
907
00:35:24,333 --> 00:35:26,333
into the tunnels
that we suspected in the area.
908
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,042
So with both
mine one and mine two,
909
00:35:29,167 --> 00:35:31,250
we actually turned to blasting.
910
00:35:31,375 --> 00:35:33,333
We actually
started using shaped charges
911
00:35:33,417 --> 00:35:35,500
to blast both mines.
912
00:35:35,625 --> 00:35:37,333
TRAVIS: In the middle
of a snowstorm?
913
00:35:37,458 --> 00:35:39,518
- ERIK: Was it snowing in it?
- TRAVIS: How did that go?
914
00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:41,000
ANDY: We could not
get deep enough,
915
00:35:41,125 --> 00:35:42,708
but with all of our blasting
916
00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:44,917
and all of our excavating,
mine one looks like
917
00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:46,500
it was the older
of the two mines,
918
00:35:46,625 --> 00:35:48,250
potentially the less
interesting mine,
919
00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:50,208
'cause it looks like
it was naturally filled.
920
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,458
Mine two gave us a lot of pause
921
00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:55,476
because it looked like
it was intentionally filled.
922
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:57,667
- Okay.
- ANDY: And our question became,
923
00:35:57,792 --> 00:36:01,875
why would anyone
take the time to fill a hole?
924
00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:03,417
If it was a non-productive mine?
925
00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:04,833
PAUL:
You would just leave it.
926
00:36:04,958 --> 00:36:06,375
And who filled it in?
927
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:08,018
- PAUL: Who and why?
- Did Bigelow do it?
928
00:36:08,042 --> 00:36:09,292
Or was it done 100 years ago?
929
00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:10,792
- 1,000 ago?
- PAUL: Right.
930
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,309
ANDY: Now, all of this,
like I said,
931
00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:15,125
is at the mines themselves.
932
00:36:15,208 --> 00:36:17,333
But the same land mass
actually flows down
933
00:36:17,458 --> 00:36:19,208
to something called
the lower meadow.
934
00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:21,250
And then we took it
to the magnetometer,
935
00:36:21,375 --> 00:36:22,851
and this is what
our magnetometer showed us.
936
00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:24,500
ERIK: Oh, look at that.
937
00:36:24,625 --> 00:36:27,833
ANDY: This square area here,
this is the Lower Meadow.
938
00:36:27,917 --> 00:36:30,083
That's clearly artificial.
939
00:36:30,208 --> 00:36:31,542
That looks like a phased array.
940
00:36:31,708 --> 00:36:33,208
Sure does.
941
00:36:33,375 --> 00:36:35,000
Looks like a phased
array antenna system
942
00:36:35,083 --> 00:36:36,458
built under the ground.
943
00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:38,375
You see where I'm going
with this, Erik?
944
00:36:38,542 --> 00:36:42,833
We've heard rumors
that certain low frequencies
945
00:36:42,917 --> 00:36:47,417
in that range could be used
to not only detect UAPs,
946
00:36:47,542 --> 00:36:49,583
but possibly even
take them down.
947
00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:51,875
But I never
knew 'em to bury them.
948
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,667
They were always
on... on the surface.
949
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:55,583
ERIK: Like, a low frequency
beam of some kind?
950
00:36:55,708 --> 00:36:57,375
TRAVIS: Well,
just a phase array radar.
951
00:36:57,542 --> 00:36:59,333
The rumors that
array is actually a radar
952
00:36:59,458 --> 00:37:01,958
that brought down
the Roswell thing,
953
00:37:02,042 --> 00:37:03,500
assuming it was real.
954
00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:05,507
I don't have any evidence
one way or the other.
955
00:37:05,625 --> 00:37:07,518
But my point is, that's just
another one of the stories
956
00:37:07,542 --> 00:37:09,167
we've heard
that kinda fits in the...
957
00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:10,970
In the why Bigelow
would've been interested.
958
00:37:11,042 --> 00:37:12,750
- Right. Right.
- But if he...
959
00:37:12,875 --> 00:37:15,125
If Bigelow would've found that,
he would've stayed.
960
00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:17,333
- That's what I thought too.
- Yeah.
961
00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:20,167
Unless somebody told him
to get, you know, to get out.
962
00:37:20,292 --> 00:37:22,250
PAUL: I mean,
it makes me wonder now.
963
00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:24,333
I mean, I hadn't thought
about it this way.
964
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,351
What test did he carry out in
the lower meadows specifically
965
00:37:26,375 --> 00:37:28,250
since that's where
we got such intense...
966
00:37:28,375 --> 00:37:30,095
- Intensely strange readings.
- ANDY: Right.
967
00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:32,833
It's hard for me to believe
that he would sell this ranch
968
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,833
if he found this type of data.
969
00:37:34,917 --> 00:37:35,917
Yeah.
970
00:37:37,417 --> 00:37:39,792
Another thing that was strange
is that we actually...
971
00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:42,333
Another unique instance
when we were there,
972
00:37:42,417 --> 00:37:45,792
in the mining area,
the GPS data in our drone
973
00:37:45,875 --> 00:37:48,542
became so confused
that the drone actually ended up
974
00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:50,875
fighting itself
and crash landing.
975
00:37:51,042 --> 00:37:54,167
TRAVIS: That's no... We've had
that happen hundreds of times.
976
00:37:54,292 --> 00:37:55,434
It's interesting
that it's happening like this
977
00:37:55,458 --> 00:37:57,083
somewhere else.
978
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:58,848
We also were able
to do some post analysis
979
00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:00,500
on the GPS anomalies
980
00:38:00,583 --> 00:38:02,184
that actually ended up
bringing down our drone.
981
00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:04,417
- Oh.
- ERIK: That's very interest.
982
00:38:04,542 --> 00:38:05,851
- TRAVIS: Very interesting. Yes.
- And at first
983
00:38:05,875 --> 00:38:07,315
we thought
that we might just dismiss
984
00:38:07,375 --> 00:38:09,250
the GPS data as corrupt
985
00:38:09,375 --> 00:38:11,333
until we actually looked at it.
986
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:13,375
And then when we actually
looked at it to see
987
00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:15,000
does it correlate to anything,
988
00:38:15,125 --> 00:38:19,167
the errant GPS data in our drone
989
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:20,875
correlates to this red line
990
00:38:21,042 --> 00:38:22,875
in each of these
yellow placements
991
00:38:23,042 --> 00:38:25,167
that connect the corner of Cuba
992
00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:27,167
up to the corner
of the Bermuda Triangle.
993
00:38:27,292 --> 00:38:29,042
- TRAVIS: Wow.
- That's where our drone
994
00:38:29,167 --> 00:38:30,458
thought it was going.
995
00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:32,250
I mean, we've seen anomalies
996
00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:33,643
that were
60 something miles away.
997
00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:35,875
- Yes.
- But this is 1,000 miles.
998
00:38:36,042 --> 00:38:37,333
ERIK: 1,000 miles away.
999
00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:39,250
TRAVIS: None of our data
points to Cuba.
1000
00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:40,542
It's disturbing to me.
1001
00:38:41,542 --> 00:38:43,250
- Yeah.
- ANDY: We knew we're on the edge
1002
00:38:43,375 --> 00:38:45,333
of the Nevada Test Site
1003
00:38:45,458 --> 00:38:47,583
and it literally
seemed like what happened
1004
00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:49,875
is that the drone had crossed
some sort of barrier.
1005
00:38:50,042 --> 00:38:51,667
It had hit something
1006
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:54,167
that intentionally
seemed to misguide it.
1007
00:38:54,250 --> 00:38:55,726
And you watched it
come down with your eyes?
1008
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:57,875
Absolutely.
What struck me about this
1009
00:38:58,042 --> 00:39:01,583
is that it's very clean,
but inaccurate data.
1010
00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:03,458
- It's not garbled.
- ERIK: Yeah.
1011
00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:05,542
My training at CIA
1012
00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:09,000
immediately made me think
that this wasn't corrupted data,
1013
00:39:09,083 --> 00:39:11,000
it was intentionally
made errant.
1014
00:39:11,125 --> 00:39:12,434
- Yes.
- What we would call spoofed.
1015
00:39:12,458 --> 00:39:15,750
- Yes.
- This is highly suspicious
1016
00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:20,125
of spoofing to me
and to what end and why there?
1017
00:39:20,208 --> 00:39:21,768
I mean,
if you're gonna spoof something,
1018
00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:23,512
you don't put something
nonsensical into it.
1019
00:39:23,667 --> 00:39:26,208
You put something
that's believable, right?
1020
00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:27,667
- Right.
- This means something.
1021
00:39:27,792 --> 00:39:29,500
It implies something deliberate.
1022
00:39:29,625 --> 00:39:31,250
TRAVIS: It absolutely
does, Erik.
1023
00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:32,893
ANDY: It sounds like
what you're saying is
1024
00:39:32,917 --> 00:39:34,559
this could potentially
not be a spoof at all.
1025
00:39:34,583 --> 00:39:36,101
It could be some sort of
communication effort?
1026
00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:39,333
Yeah. This is jumping out at us.
1027
00:39:39,458 --> 00:39:41,708
It's a calling card.
It's a message.
1028
00:39:41,875 --> 00:39:46,625
It's saying something
about that location in Nevada
1029
00:39:46,708 --> 00:39:49,625
and these locations
in the Gulf of Mexico.
1030
00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:53,643
I am surprised.
I'm not... I was not...
1031
00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:55,000
I was not expecting this at all.
1032
00:39:55,083 --> 00:39:56,375
No, I wasn't expecting this.
1033
00:39:56,542 --> 00:39:58,292
I didn't know
what to expect, honestly,
1034
00:39:58,375 --> 00:40:00,059
but I'll tell you,
this really invites follow-up.
1035
00:40:00,083 --> 00:40:01,726
Yeah, especially
the lower meadow where Bigelow
1036
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:03,500
had carried out
his investigations,
1037
00:40:03,625 --> 00:40:05,559
that's where we wanted to focus
more of our efforts.
1038
00:40:05,583 --> 00:40:07,583
I'd really like to know
if Jeff would be receptive
1039
00:40:07,708 --> 00:40:10,750
to leaving
data logging instruments
1040
00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:12,542
on a long-term basis
in this location.
1041
00:40:12,667 --> 00:40:14,375
ANDY:
I think he absolutely would.
1042
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:17,375
- We could potentially connect...
- Pull a cable.
1043
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,083
That site for study here.
1044
00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:22,000
- TRAVIS: Yes.
- And you know
1045
00:40:22,167 --> 00:40:23,917
what's even cooler about that?
1046
00:40:24,625 --> 00:40:26,583
Now, not only
is it connected potentially
1047
00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,500
through whatever
the phenomena is,
1048
00:40:28,625 --> 00:40:30,385
we're actually putting
a hard line connection
1049
00:40:30,417 --> 00:40:32,333
- between the two ranches.
- Oh, wow.
1050
00:40:32,458 --> 00:40:35,167
And then now that in...
Sort of doubles down
1051
00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:36,542
on whatever's going on there.
1052
00:40:36,708 --> 00:40:39,125
The power of correlative data.
1053
00:40:39,208 --> 00:40:40,750
Right, I mean,
I was not expecting
1054
00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:42,667
to come back
with a report like this.
1055
00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:44,167
TRAVIS: You guys did
a thorough job
1056
00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:45,750
in the amount of time you had
1057
00:40:45,875 --> 00:40:47,708
and I imagine,
kinda the way you guys were
1058
00:40:47,875 --> 00:40:50,042
once all that
four feet of snow hit,
1059
00:40:50,167 --> 00:40:52,500
I mean, what are you gonna
do in that, nothing, you know?
1060
00:40:52,583 --> 00:40:53,851
Travis, listening
to Paul and Andy,
1061
00:40:53,875 --> 00:40:55,458
you and I shouldn't complain.
1062
00:40:55,542 --> 00:40:58,042
We haven't dealt
with four feet of snow.
1063
00:40:58,167 --> 00:41:00,583
You guys deal with the heat
and we deal with the snow.
1064
00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:02,601
Maybe at some point, we'll have
to flop our seasons around.
1065
00:41:02,625 --> 00:41:05,458
And I gotta tell you,
if you guys continue
1066
00:41:05,542 --> 00:41:07,375
to find things like this,
we're not gonna have
1067
00:41:07,542 --> 00:41:09,667
enough time in the day to...
To investigate all this.
1068
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:11,583
- This is fantastic.
- PAUL: Well, thanks.
1069
00:41:11,708 --> 00:41:13,833
I feel like this was,
yeah, this was a productive one.
1070
00:41:13,917 --> 00:41:16,500
- I really... I... Like I said...
- I wanna go there now.
1071
00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:17,934
- Yeah.
- Yeah, We're gonna reach out
1072
00:41:17,958 --> 00:41:19,708
to the same teams
that we worked with,
1073
00:41:19,833 --> 00:41:21,643
- get their raw data.
- Yeah. We'll pull some more.
1074
00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:23,347
And then we're back here
in just a few days
1075
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,980
to set up
the next trip with you guys.
1076
00:41:25,042 --> 00:41:26,722
I think collectively
we owe it to ourselves
1077
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:28,292
- to do that follow up.
- ALL: Yeah.
1078
00:41:28,375 --> 00:41:29,934
- Yeah. Thank you so much.
- ANDY: Great.
1079
00:41:29,958 --> 00:41:31,518
- Well, thank you guys.
- TRAVIS: Thanks.
1080
00:41:31,542 --> 00:41:32,726
- Excellent.
- Absolutely, man.
1081
00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:34,500
That was awesome. Thanks.
1082
00:41:34,583 --> 00:41:36,292
ERIK: All right, gents.
We'll see you soon.
1083
00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:38,656
TRAVIS: All right. See you.
Can't wait 'til the next time.
1084
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,680
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