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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:06,841 --> 00:01:10,841 www.titlovi.com 2 00:01:13,841 --> 00:01:15,808 Operator: Emergency services. 3 00:01:15,810 --> 00:01:17,476 Jeffery: I need an ambulance. 4 00:01:17,478 --> 00:01:19,778 544 Castle Drive. 5 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:21,447 Is that on or off coast? 6 00:01:21,449 --> 00:01:23,031 544 Castle Drive. 7 00:01:23,033 --> 00:01:24,950 [ RADIO CHATTER ] 8 00:01:25,686 --> 00:01:28,353 [ SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYS ] 9 00:01:28,355 --> 00:01:32,908 dd 10 00:01:32,910 --> 00:01:34,993 [ DOGS BARK IN DISTANCE ] 11 00:01:35,696 --> 00:01:38,747 [ POUNDING ON DOOR ] 12 00:01:38,749 --> 00:01:40,249 I'M GOING AROUND BACK. 13 00:01:40,251 --> 00:01:42,217 Officer: YES, SIR. 14 00:01:42,219 --> 00:01:46,171 dd 15 00:01:46,173 --> 00:01:49,541 [ DOOR OPENS ] 16 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:51,042 [ DOOR SQUEAKS ] 17 00:01:51,044 --> 00:01:55,981 dd 18 00:01:55,983 --> 00:01:59,401 [ FOOTSTEPS ] 19 00:02:02,373 --> 00:02:05,858 [ DOOR OPENS, SQUEAKS ] 20 00:02:05,860 --> 00:02:12,297 [ FOOTSTEPS ] 21 00:02:12,299 --> 00:02:14,733 NO. 22 00:02:14,735 --> 00:02:15,901 GET WOMACK ASAP! 23 00:02:15,903 --> 00:02:16,935 WE NEED AN AMBULANCE. 24 00:02:16,937 --> 00:02:18,337 YES, SIR! 25 00:02:18,339 --> 00:02:20,289 MOBILE UNIT TO WOMACK HOSPITAL. 26 00:02:20,291 --> 00:02:21,473 10-2. 27 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:22,774 [ RADIO CHATTER ] 28 00:02:22,776 --> 00:02:26,461 [ COUGHING ] 29 00:02:26,463 --> 00:02:28,814 HE'S STILL ALIVE! GET THAT AMBULANCE HERE ON THE DOUBLE! 30 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:30,115 YES, SIR! 31 00:02:30,117 --> 00:02:32,234 [ GASPING ] 32 00:02:32,236 --> 00:02:36,138 [ Muffled ] LET'S GO! [ RADIO CHATTER ] 33 00:02:38,525 --> 00:02:39,758 OH, MY GOD. 34 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,476 WHAT'S IN HERE? 35 00:02:41,478 --> 00:02:45,931 [ INDISTINCT CHATTER ] 36 00:02:45,933 --> 00:02:47,366 Man: DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING. 37 00:02:47,368 --> 00:02:50,002 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING ] 38 00:02:57,545 --> 00:03:04,166 [ SIREN WAILS ] 39 00:03:04,168 --> 00:03:05,434 Man: LIFT. 40 00:03:05,436 --> 00:03:09,755 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ] [ AMBULANCE DOOR SHUTS ] 41 00:03:09,757 --> 00:03:13,592 [ TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACKING ] 42 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:22,267 dd 43 00:03:22,269 --> 00:03:24,670 Woman: JOE? WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? 44 00:03:24,672 --> 00:03:26,054 [ KNOCKS ON DOOR ] [ BABY GURGLES ] 45 00:03:26,056 --> 00:03:28,523 UM, HEY, DO YOU MIND TAKING HIM? 46 00:03:28,525 --> 00:03:30,042 MM-HMM. COME HERE. 47 00:03:30,044 --> 00:03:31,176 HERE YOU GO. GO TO MAMA. 48 00:03:31,178 --> 00:03:34,079 [ GROANS ] DID YOU HEAR BACK FROM LESLIE YET? 49 00:03:34,081 --> 00:03:36,298 NO, NOT YET. IT'S OKAY, JUST DO YOUR WORK. 50 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:37,783 TRY CALLING LESLIE AGAIN. 51 00:03:37,785 --> 00:03:39,401 CALL THE SERVICE. 52 00:03:39,403 --> 00:03:42,304 WHEN YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK, COME FIND US. 53 00:03:42,306 --> 00:03:43,288 OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU. 54 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:44,306 OKAY. OKAY. 55 00:03:44,308 --> 00:03:46,308 BYE, DADDY! BYE. 56 00:03:46,310 --> 00:03:47,693 [ BABY COOS ] COME ON, LITTLE MUNCHKIN. 57 00:03:47,695 --> 00:03:48,393 LET'S GO PLAY. 58 00:03:48,395 --> 00:03:49,361 [ TYPEWRITER CLACKS ] 59 00:03:49,363 --> 00:03:50,946 Woman: Service. UMM, HI, YEAH. 60 00:03:50,948 --> 00:03:52,197 THIS IS JOE McGINNISS. 61 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,182 CAN I HAVE MY MESSAGES, PLEASE? 62 00:03:54,184 --> 00:03:55,734 Bruce Howard's office called to say 63 00:03:55,736 --> 00:03:57,469 they are passing on the article, 64 00:03:57,471 --> 00:03:59,771 but they want to hear whatever you have next. 65 00:03:59,773 --> 00:04:01,807 [ SIGHS ] OKAY. 66 00:04:01,809 --> 00:04:03,942 UMM, ANYTHING ELSE? 67 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:07,112 Mr. Rayburn's office called at Knopf. 68 00:04:07,114 --> 00:04:09,698 Still no information about a tour for the Alaska book, 69 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:11,850 but they will let you know when there is some. 70 00:04:11,852 --> 00:04:12,918 OKAY. 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,386 ANYTHING ELSE? 72 00:04:14,388 --> 00:04:15,771 Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald called. 73 00:04:15,773 --> 00:04:17,489 He's a big fan of "Selling of the President," 74 00:04:17,491 --> 00:04:18,807 and he'd like to talk to you 75 00:04:18,809 --> 00:04:21,560 about covering his trial in North Carolina. 76 00:04:21,562 --> 00:04:22,811 Do you want the number? 77 00:04:22,813 --> 00:04:24,146 YEAH. 78 00:04:24,148 --> 00:04:25,447 YEAH, I'LL TAKE THE NUMBER. 79 00:04:25,449 --> 00:04:28,133 AND GIVE ME THE NUMBER FOR "THE EXAMINER" ARCHIVES. 80 00:04:28,135 --> 00:04:29,635 I WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT MacDONALD 81 00:04:29,637 --> 00:04:31,102 BEFORE I MEET HIM. 82 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:40,846 dd 83 00:04:40,848 --> 00:04:50,589 dd 84 00:04:50,591 --> 00:04:53,175 dd 85 00:04:53,177 --> 00:04:55,544 [ INHALES, EXHALES ] 86 00:04:55,546 --> 00:04:58,997 [ MICROFICHE SPINS ] 87 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:02,668 dd 88 00:05:02,670 --> 00:05:04,369 [ MICROFICHE SPINS ] 89 00:05:04,371 --> 00:05:07,973 dd 90 00:05:07,975 --> 00:05:09,975 [ MICROFICHE SPINS ] 91 00:05:09,977 --> 00:05:19,517 dd 92 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:21,520 [ MICROFICHE SPINS ] 93 00:05:21,522 --> 00:05:28,460 dd 94 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:30,896 [ WAVES CRASHING ] 95 00:05:30,898 --> 00:05:33,865 [ BIRDS CAWING ] 96 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:35,867 [ GENTLE MUSIC PLAYS ] 97 00:05:35,869 --> 00:05:38,520 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ] 98 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:40,739 STEFAN. 99 00:05:40,741 --> 00:05:42,774 GOOD TO SEE YOU. [ LAUGHS ] 100 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:47,946 JOE? Joe:YEAH. 101 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:49,013 JEFF MacDONALD. 102 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:51,917 HEY. 103 00:05:51,919 --> 00:05:54,553 I APPRECIATE YOU REACHING OUT. 104 00:05:54,555 --> 00:05:56,838 I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT YOUR CASE. 105 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:58,974 I CAN HUM A FEW BARS, 106 00:05:58,976 --> 00:06:01,827 BUT I HAVEN'T DONE ANY SERIOUS RESEARCH ON IT. 107 00:06:01,829 --> 00:06:03,562 OKAY, SO WHAT DO YOU KNOW? 108 00:06:03,564 --> 00:06:04,663 THERE WAS A TRAGEDY. 109 00:06:04,665 --> 00:06:06,665 YOU LOST YOUR WIFE AND KIDS. 110 00:06:06,667 --> 00:06:09,067 THE ARMY ACCUSES YOU OF THE CRIME, 111 00:06:09,069 --> 00:06:10,602 THEN THEY CHANGE THEIR MINDS. 112 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:12,721 THEY CLEAR YOU. YOU GET AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE. 113 00:06:12,723 --> 00:06:14,539 AND NOW, SOMEHOW AFTER NINE YEARS, 114 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:16,908 YOU'RE BEING DRAGGED BACK TO NORTH CAROLINA 115 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:19,061 TO STAND TRIAL IN THREE WEEKS. 116 00:06:19,063 --> 00:06:20,746 YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. 117 00:06:20,748 --> 00:06:24,182 SO, AFTER NINE YEARS, WHY IS THIS COMING BACK AROUND? 118 00:06:24,184 --> 00:06:26,918 IT WAS ALL OVER. 119 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,020 BUT I SPOKE TO THE PRESS. 120 00:06:29,022 --> 00:06:31,289 I WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE WHO I WAS, 121 00:06:31,291 --> 00:06:32,758 HEAR ME TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, 122 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,976 HOW THE ARMY DRAGGED ME THROUGH A TRIAL 123 00:06:34,978 --> 00:06:37,045 AFTER WHAT HAPPENED TO COLETTE AND MY KIDS. 124 00:06:39,299 --> 00:06:42,851 I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE ARMY ON TV. 125 00:06:42,853 --> 00:06:48,506 AND FOR ME, AS AN EX-GREEN BERET. 126 00:06:48,508 --> 00:06:51,910 THEN THE ARMY CAME AROUND FOR A SECOND WHACK AT ME. 127 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:53,929 FREDDY KASSAB, MY FATHER-IN-LAW... 128 00:06:53,931 --> 00:06:57,182 HE TESTIFIED ON YOUR BEHALF ORIGINALLY, RIGHT? 129 00:06:57,184 --> 00:07:00,018 THAT'S A GOOD MEMORY FOR JUST HUMMING A FEW BARS. 130 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:01,620 SO HE STARTED TO TELL ANYONE WHO WOULD LISTEN TO HIM 131 00:07:01,622 --> 00:07:05,440 THAT I WAS GUILTY, THAT I DID IT. 132 00:07:05,442 --> 00:07:07,175 AND HERE WE ARE. 133 00:07:07,177 --> 00:07:09,795 I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP ME TELL MY STORY. 134 00:07:09,797 --> 00:07:11,630 I WANT YOU TO WRITE THE BOOK. 135 00:07:11,632 --> 00:07:12,597 I MEAN, I'M A JOURNALIST. 136 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:13,949 I DON'T DO "AS TOLD TO" BOOKS. 137 00:07:13,951 --> 00:07:15,367 I WANT REAL REPORTING. 138 00:07:15,369 --> 00:07:16,868 I WANT YOU TO TEAR EVERYTHING UP SO THAT NONE 139 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:19,104 OF THESE QUESTIONS EVER GETS ASKED AGAIN. 140 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:20,005 THAT'S WHY I CALLED YOU. 141 00:07:20,007 --> 00:07:22,174 I WANT THE TRUTH. 142 00:07:22,176 --> 00:07:26,378 SO, YOU WANT ME TO COVER THE TRIAL IN NORTH CAROLINA? 143 00:07:26,380 --> 00:07:28,997 YES, COVER EVERYTHING, NOT JUST THE TRIAL. 144 00:07:28,999 --> 00:07:31,900 BUT BE WITH ME, SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE ON THE INSIDE. 145 00:07:31,902 --> 00:07:35,287 SEE WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES. 146 00:07:35,289 --> 00:07:38,240 UMM... 147 00:07:38,242 --> 00:07:39,958 [ SIGHS ] LOOK. 148 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,394 I GOT A LOT OF IRONS ON THE FIRE RIGHT NOW, I -- 149 00:07:42,396 --> 00:07:44,646 JOE, LOOK, I MOVED DOWN TO CALIFORNIA 150 00:07:44,648 --> 00:07:47,749 BECAUSE I NEEDED TO GET AWAY. 151 00:07:47,751 --> 00:07:50,302 I KNOW HOW I COME OFF. 152 00:07:50,304 --> 00:07:51,820 I DRIVE A NICE CAR. 153 00:07:51,822 --> 00:07:53,905 I DATE A PRETTY GIRL. 154 00:07:53,907 --> 00:07:55,357 A FANCY CAR JUST GETS YOU AROUND, MAN, 155 00:07:55,359 --> 00:07:57,275 AND THE OCEAN'S JUST A VIEW. 156 00:07:59,346 --> 00:08:03,448 NONE OF THAT CAN FILL THE HOLE OF LOSING YOUR FAMILY. 157 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:04,766 NONE OF THAT. 158 00:08:04,768 --> 00:08:06,551 Joe: LESLIE, THERE'S NO QUESTION 159 00:08:06,553 --> 00:08:08,753 THERE'S SOMETHING VERY WEIRD GOING ON ABOUT THIS CASE. 160 00:08:08,755 --> 00:08:12,390 IT TAKES THE GOVERNMENT FOUR YEARS TO GET AN INDICTMENT. 161 00:08:12,392 --> 00:08:14,643 AND THEN IT TAKES THEM ANOTHER FIVE YEARS 162 00:08:14,645 --> 00:08:16,094 TO ACTUALLY BRING HIM TO TRIAL 163 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:17,929 IN NORTH CAROLINA IN A FEW WEEKS. 164 00:08:17,931 --> 00:08:19,865 SO FROM WHERE I'M SITTING, THIS FEELS LIKE 165 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:22,868 A NINE-YEAR-LONG KAFKA-TYPE ORDEAL FOR THIS GUY. 166 00:08:22,870 --> 00:08:24,002 NINE YEARS? 167 00:08:24,004 --> 00:08:26,254 WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL? 168 00:08:26,256 --> 00:08:27,939 JEFFREY MacDONALD'S DEFENSE TEAM TOOK THAT 169 00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:32,077 ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT AND LOST. 170 00:08:32,079 --> 00:08:34,262 WHAT ABOUT DOUBLE JEOPARDY? YOU CAN'T TRY HIM TWICE, CAN YOU? 171 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:36,781 AND THAT'S THE SECOND ISSUE THAT MADE IT TO THE SUPREME COURT. 172 00:08:36,783 --> 00:08:38,583 BUT THEY REFUSED TO REVIEW IT 173 00:08:38,585 --> 00:08:42,821 BECAUSE HE WAS NEVER ACTUALLY TRIED BY THE ARMY. 174 00:08:42,823 --> 00:08:43,989 HMM. 175 00:08:43,991 --> 00:08:45,390 HOW ABOUT JEFFREY MacDONALD? 176 00:08:45,392 --> 00:08:47,225 HOW DOES HE STRIKE YOU? 177 00:08:47,227 --> 00:08:48,627 I MEAN, YOU ALMOST WANT TO HATE THE GUY AT FIRST 178 00:08:48,629 --> 00:08:49,861 BECAUSE HE LOOKS MORE LIKE A MOVIE STAR 179 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:51,046 THAN MOST MOVIE STARS DO, 180 00:08:51,048 --> 00:08:56,635 BUT THEN YOU REALIZE AT SOME POINT THAT HE'S HAUNTED. 181 00:08:58,004 --> 00:08:59,538 I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE IT IN HIS EYES. 182 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,724 HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN WERE SLAUGHTERED. 183 00:09:02,726 --> 00:09:06,411 I MEAN, WHAT FATHER COULD DO THAT TO HIS OWN KIDS? 184 00:09:06,413 --> 00:09:08,763 SO, WHAT'S THE ANGLE? 185 00:09:08,765 --> 00:09:09,998 MY ANGLE? 186 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,816 WHAT'S YOUR ANGLE? 187 00:09:11,818 --> 00:09:13,151 I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MY ANGLE YET, 188 00:09:13,153 --> 00:09:15,020 BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO THE ARMY, 189 00:09:15,022 --> 00:09:17,689 AND NOW THE FEDS PERSECUTING HIM. 190 00:09:17,691 --> 00:09:20,458 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, AND THEY'RE STILL GOING AFTER HIM. 191 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:22,027 NO, I'M GOOD. 192 00:09:22,029 --> 00:09:25,247 HAVING ACCESS TO JEFFREY AND THIS TRIAL 193 00:09:25,249 --> 00:09:26,831 COULD MEAN ANOTHER BOOK AS BIG AS 194 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:27,682 "SELLING THE PRESIDENT." 195 00:09:27,684 --> 00:09:29,034 IT COULD BE, RIGHT? 196 00:09:29,036 --> 00:09:32,203 HE WANTS ME ON EVERY DEFENSE MEETING, EVERY GAMEPLAN SESSION. 197 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:35,073 HE WANTS ME TO LIVE WITH HIM, FOR GOD SAKES. 198 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:36,775 ARE YOU JUST HOPPING INTO BED WITH THIS GUY? 199 00:09:36,777 --> 00:09:38,109 NO, I'M GONNA GO DOWN THERE, 200 00:09:38,111 --> 00:09:39,477 AND I'M GONNA LISTEN TO HIS STORY 201 00:09:39,479 --> 00:09:40,729 WITH MY B.S. METER SET ON HIGH. 202 00:09:40,731 --> 00:09:42,647 ALL RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH I'M A JOURNALIST, 203 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:43,665 I HAVE SOME INTEGRITY. 204 00:09:43,667 --> 00:09:45,467 [ LAUGHS ] 205 00:09:45,469 --> 00:09:47,185 COME ON! 206 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:48,870 WE BOTH WANT ANOTHER "SELLING OF THE PRESIDENT," 207 00:09:48,872 --> 00:09:52,157 BUT I WOULD BE LYING IF I TOLD YOU THIS SMELLS LIKE THAT. 208 00:09:55,462 --> 00:09:57,445 WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE, LESLIE? 209 00:10:00,917 --> 00:10:02,801 Woman over loudspeaker: Dr. Harper, you are needed in the E.R. 210 00:10:02,803 --> 00:10:03,802 WHAT DO WE GOT? 211 00:10:03,804 --> 00:10:05,570 STAB WOUND, ULNER ARTERY. 212 00:10:05,572 --> 00:10:06,838 HOW LONG AGO? ABOUT HALF HOUR. 213 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,006 ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A LOOK. 214 00:10:08,008 --> 00:10:11,610 [ GROANING ] OLD FAITHFUL THERE, HUH? 215 00:10:11,612 --> 00:10:13,945 CLAMP, PLEASE, AND LET'S GET A LARGE POLE I.V. STARTED. 216 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,680 THANK YOU. 217 00:10:15,682 --> 00:10:17,315 NURSE, OXYGEN. 218 00:10:17,317 --> 00:10:18,216 YOU OKAY? 219 00:10:18,218 --> 00:10:19,217 YOU TELL ME. 220 00:10:19,219 --> 00:10:22,087 OH, YEAH, WE GOT YOU COVERED. 221 00:10:22,089 --> 00:10:25,423 THERE WE GO. 222 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:29,961 ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET HIM OUT OF HERE. 223 00:10:29,963 --> 00:10:32,631 Dr. Silverman, line three. 224 00:10:32,633 --> 00:10:34,132 Dr. Silverman, line three. 225 00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:36,901 WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? H-HOW DID YOU FIND ME? 226 00:10:36,903 --> 00:10:38,903 I JUST CAME HERE TO TELL YOU I'LL DO IT. 227 00:10:38,905 --> 00:10:41,172 I'M GONNA COME TO NORTH CAROLINA. 228 00:10:41,174 --> 00:10:42,307 THAT'S FANTASTIC. 229 00:10:42,309 --> 00:10:44,442 LISTEN, I'M GONNA NEED TWO THINGS. 230 00:10:44,444 --> 00:10:46,678 I WANT FULL ACCESS AND FULL FREEDOM 231 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:47,879 TO WRITE ACCORDING TO MY OWN JUDGMENT. 232 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:49,648 I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS, 233 00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:51,249 AND YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE ME VERY MUCH. 234 00:10:51,251 --> 00:10:54,252 DR. MacDONALD? 235 00:10:54,254 --> 00:10:55,303 ABSOLUTELY. 236 00:10:55,305 --> 00:10:56,788 WE CAN -- WE CAN GO OVER ALL THE DETAILS 237 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:57,622 AND TRAVEL, ALL THAT, TOMORROW. 238 00:10:57,624 --> 00:10:58,723 GOOD. 239 00:10:58,725 --> 00:10:59,858 HEY, THEY'RE THROWING ME A SEND-OFF PARTY. 240 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:01,526 YOU HAVE TO PROMISE ME TO COME. 241 00:11:01,528 --> 00:11:03,528 SURE. 242 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:04,195 ALL RIGHT. 243 00:11:04,197 --> 00:11:05,797 I LIKE YOU ALREADY, JOE. 244 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:06,998 BUT YOU COULD HAVE JUST CALLED. 245 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:12,437 Dr. Benson -- Dr. Benson -- 246 00:11:12,439 --> 00:11:14,072 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ] 247 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:22,147 dd 248 00:11:22,149 --> 00:11:24,749 Man: I HAD NO IDEA. 249 00:11:24,751 --> 00:11:25,517 YEAH, EVERYONE. 250 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:27,919 [ LAUGHTER ] 251 00:11:27,921 --> 00:11:33,191 dd 252 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,326 IT MEANS THE WORLD THAT YOU'RE HERE. 253 00:11:36,012 --> 00:11:39,430 [ INDISTINCT CHATTER ] 254 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:40,732 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ] 255 00:11:40,734 --> 00:11:42,901 Woman: ONE MORE, PLEASE. 256 00:11:42,903 --> 00:11:46,337 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ] YEAH. 257 00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:47,806 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ] 258 00:11:47,808 --> 00:11:50,442 [ LAUGHS ] MAY I HAVE EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, PLEASE? 259 00:11:50,444 --> 00:11:54,979 JEFF, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING HOW MUCH WE ALL BELIEVE IN YOU, 260 00:11:54,981 --> 00:11:57,449 BUT TO SHOW YOU JUST HOW MUCH WE LOVE YOU, 261 00:11:57,451 --> 00:11:58,717 WE GOT YOU A LITTLE SOMETHING. 262 00:11:58,719 --> 00:12:01,052 WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE. 263 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:08,259 [ LAUGHS ] ALL RIGHT, THIS -- OH, MY GOODNESS. 264 00:12:08,261 --> 00:12:10,061 HERE. HUH? 265 00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:13,865 [ LAUGHTER ] THANK YOU. 266 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:15,366 AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. 267 00:12:15,368 --> 00:12:16,634 WOW, IT MEANS THE WORLD TO ME. 268 00:12:16,636 --> 00:12:18,603 I'M SURE I'LL BE BACK HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, 269 00:12:18,605 --> 00:12:22,540 BUT UNTIL THEN, DRINK EVERYTHING WE GOT HERE. 270 00:12:26,463 --> 00:12:29,998 [ DOG BARKS IN DISTANCE ] 271 00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:33,852 [ BABY COOING ] 272 00:12:33,854 --> 00:12:36,621 YEAH, YEAH, COME HERE, COME HERE. 273 00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:39,390 OH, SWEET BOY. 274 00:12:39,392 --> 00:12:41,225 I'M SORRY. 275 00:12:41,227 --> 00:12:44,095 DADDY'S GOTTA GO DO SOME WORK, OKAY? 276 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:46,364 I'LL SEE YOU SOON. 277 00:12:46,366 --> 00:12:47,865 I'LL SEE YOU SOON. 278 00:12:47,867 --> 00:12:51,619 [ BABY COOING ] [ IMITATES NIBBLING ] 279 00:12:51,621 --> 00:12:55,740 [ HORN HONKS ] BYE, SWEETIE. 280 00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:03,431 [ BABY GURGLES ] 281 00:13:03,433 --> 00:13:05,433 [ SOMBER MUSIC PLAYS ] 282 00:13:05,435 --> 00:13:12,991 dd 283 00:13:12,993 --> 00:13:18,129 [ DOOR OPENS, SHUTS ] 284 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:27,822 dd 285 00:13:27,824 --> 00:13:31,142 dd 286 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,111 [ ENGINE SHUTS OFF ] 287 00:13:33,113 --> 00:13:41,753 dd 288 00:13:41,755 --> 00:13:42,887 [ SUITCASE THUDS ] 289 00:13:42,889 --> 00:13:44,355 [ KNOCKS ] 290 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:47,358 dd 291 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,130 Jeffery: I JUST -- I WISH THEY WERE MORE APPROPRIATE TO YOUR STANDARDS. 292 00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:54,065 I THINK IT'S -- [ DOOR SHUTS ] 293 00:13:54,067 --> 00:13:55,132 JOE! Joe: HEY. 294 00:13:55,134 --> 00:13:56,251 JOE, I'M SO EXCITED YOU'RE HERE. 295 00:13:56,253 --> 00:13:58,703 LOOK AT -- THIS IS GREAT, HEY. 296 00:13:58,705 --> 00:13:59,721 YOU JUST CAUGHT US AT COCKTAIL HOUR. 297 00:13:59,723 --> 00:14:01,072 YOU CLEANED UP. 298 00:14:01,074 --> 00:14:03,508 YEAH, IT'S -- WELL, WE GOT A BIG COUPLE WEEKS COMING UP, HUH? 299 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,076 YEAH. COME ON, COME MEET EVERYBODY. 300 00:14:05,078 --> 00:14:06,744 JOE, THIS IS MY MOM. THIS IS PERRY. 301 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:07,745 OH, MR. McGINNISS. 302 00:14:07,747 --> 00:14:09,280 NICE TO MEET YOU. 303 00:14:09,282 --> 00:14:10,798 AND THIS IS -- THIS IS BERNIE SEGAL, 304 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,966 OUR FEARLESS LEADER. 305 00:14:11,968 --> 00:14:13,418 BERNIE HAS BEEN MY GUY SINCE THE BEGINNING. 306 00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:14,869 IS THAT RIGHT? 307 00:14:14,871 --> 00:14:16,037 UHH, BERNIE, NICE TO MEET YOU. 308 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:17,956 I'VE HEARD ABOUT YOUR WORK WITH THE WAR PROTESTORS. 309 00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:19,490 GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. 310 00:14:19,492 --> 00:14:21,376 YOU CAN HELP US WITH THE PUBLIC FACE OF ALL THIS. 311 00:14:21,378 --> 00:14:22,994 WE SURE HOPE SO. 312 00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:24,796 AND JOE, THIS IS WADE SMITH, ATTORNEY AT LAW. 313 00:14:24,798 --> 00:14:26,130 VERY NICE TO MEET YOU. 314 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,282 THANK WADE'S COLLEGE CONNECTIONS FOR LANDING US HERE 315 00:14:27,284 --> 00:14:28,399 AT THIS FRAT HOUSE. 316 00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:30,201 GUILTY AS CHARGED. YEAH. 317 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:32,170 IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IT'S A LOT MORE 318 00:14:32,172 --> 00:14:33,354 PRIVATE THAN A HOTEL WOULD BE. 319 00:14:33,356 --> 00:14:36,057 WADE, I TOLD YOU HE WAS GONNA BE HERE. 320 00:14:36,059 --> 00:14:37,008 YES. 321 00:14:37,010 --> 00:14:39,911 YES, YOU DID. 322 00:14:39,913 --> 00:14:41,379 LET ME GUESS. 323 00:14:41,381 --> 00:14:42,914 SCOTCH AND SODA? 324 00:14:42,916 --> 00:14:44,649 WHAT SODA? THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR. 325 00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:46,551 MOM? [ LAUGHS ] 326 00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:48,436 YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY BEING BACK ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS. 327 00:14:48,438 --> 00:14:50,772 COLETTE AND I GOT MARRIED WHEN I WAS IN PRINCETON. 328 00:14:50,774 --> 00:14:51,923 REALLY? 329 00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:53,858 WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME YOU MET COLETTE? 330 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:58,096 [ LAUGHS ] THAT'S CRAZY, BUT I WAS 12 YEARS OLD. 331 00:14:58,098 --> 00:15:00,415 12, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT. 332 00:15:00,417 --> 00:15:04,102 IT TOOK A FEW MORE YEARS TO FALL IN LOVE. 333 00:15:04,104 --> 00:15:08,907 [ DOORBELL RINGS ] d SHA LA LA LA LA LA d 334 00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:10,708 ARE YOU NERVOUS? 335 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:12,810 NO. 336 00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:14,429 WELL, MAYBE. 337 00:15:14,431 --> 00:15:15,580 MM-HMM. [ LAUGHS ] 338 00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:16,814 [ "BABY IT'S YOU" BY THE SHIRELLES PLAYING ] 339 00:15:16,816 --> 00:15:20,451 HELLO, HELLO. WELCOME. 340 00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:22,086 MERRY CHRISTMAS. 341 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:23,354 LOOK AT YOU. OH! 342 00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:24,405 MRS. KASSAB, HOW ARE YOU? 343 00:15:24,407 --> 00:15:25,306 MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU. 344 00:15:25,308 --> 00:15:27,225 WHERE'S YOUR COAT? 345 00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:28,326 WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA BE SO COLD. 346 00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:29,460 IT'S FREEZING. 347 00:15:29,462 --> 00:15:31,296 Jeffery: AND THIS IS -- THIS IS THE TWO OF YOU. 348 00:15:31,298 --> 00:15:32,630 Mr. Kassab: MM-HMM, SAYING GOODBYE. 349 00:15:32,632 --> 00:15:33,998 AND THIS ONE IS YOU, AS WELL. 350 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,833 YES, THAT'S ME RIGHT OUT OF OFFICER'S SCHOOL, 351 00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:41,072 AND THE ONE ABOVE IS AFTER A FEW MONTHS IN EUROPE. 352 00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:43,074 WOW. SO, HOW'S PRINCETON? 353 00:15:43,076 --> 00:15:44,175 HARD WORK. 354 00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:45,843 HECK OF A NICE CAMPUS, JUST BEAUTIFUL. 355 00:15:45,845 --> 00:15:46,978 TA-DA! DINNER IS SERVED. 356 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:49,514 OH, MY, MY, MY. LOOK AT THAT TURKEY. 357 00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:50,815 IT'S HEAVY. 358 00:15:50,817 --> 00:15:52,216 Jeffery: FREDDY WAS ACTUALLY COLETTE'S STEPFATHER, 359 00:15:52,218 --> 00:15:54,585 BUT COLETTE ABSOLUTELY ADORED FREDDY. 360 00:15:54,587 --> 00:15:56,604 SHE NEVER CALLED HIM ANYTHING BUT DAD, 361 00:15:56,606 --> 00:15:58,222 AND WHEN SHE DECIDED THAT SHE LOVED ME, 362 00:15:58,224 --> 00:15:59,824 AND I WAS PART OF THE FAMILY, 363 00:15:59,826 --> 00:16:01,926 FREDDY ABSOLUTELY WELCOMED ME IN. 364 00:16:01,928 --> 00:16:06,864 d ABOUT YOU SHA LA LA LA LA d 365 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:11,369 d THEY SAY THEY SAY YOU NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER BEEN TRUE d 366 00:16:11,371 --> 00:16:12,270 OH, THANK YOU. 367 00:16:12,272 --> 00:16:14,806 IS THAT A CURTSY? 368 00:16:14,808 --> 00:16:19,110 d DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY SAY I KNOW d 369 00:16:19,112 --> 00:16:24,415 d I'M GONNA LOVE YOU ANY OLD WAY WHAT CAN I DO d 370 00:16:24,417 --> 00:16:29,187 d WHEN IT'S TRUE DON'T WANT NOBODY, d 371 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:33,474 d NOBODY 'CAUSE BABY, IT'S YOU d 372 00:16:33,476 --> 00:16:36,561 [ MOANS ] 373 00:16:36,563 --> 00:16:39,230 d BABY, IT'S YOU d 374 00:16:39,232 --> 00:16:40,331 [ GIGGLES ] 375 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,001 d BABY, IT'S YOU d 376 00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,268 WHAT IS IT ABOUT HER? 377 00:16:46,706 --> 00:16:50,174 SHE WAS THE NICEST PERSON I EVER MET. 378 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:51,476 ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A SURPRISE FOR YOU? 379 00:16:51,478 --> 00:16:53,277 WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 380 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:54,512 COME ON. KEEP YOUR EYES CLOSED. 381 00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:56,347 CAREFUL. 382 00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,617 DON'T PEEK. 383 00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:01,386 OKAY, YOU STAY RIGHT HERE. 384 00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:03,454 KEEP YOUR EYES CLOSED. 385 00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:05,957 WHAT DID YOU DO? 386 00:17:05,959 --> 00:17:07,958 Jeffery: OKAY, OPEN 'EM. 387 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,628 Colette: [ GASPS ] OH, MY GOD. 388 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:13,181 WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT BEAUTY? 389 00:17:13,183 --> 00:17:15,867 THIS MUST HAVE COST A FORTUNE. 390 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:17,535 JEFF, YOU CAN'T KEEP DOING THINGS LIKE THIS. 391 00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:21,072 I LOVE WATCHING YOU GET EXCITED. 392 00:17:21,074 --> 00:17:22,757 CAN I PLAY IT? OF COURSE. 393 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:25,209 THIS IS ALL YOURS, BABE. 394 00:17:25,211 --> 00:17:26,711 [ LAUGHS ] WE WERE A GOOD TEAM. 395 00:17:26,713 --> 00:17:28,579 YOU KNOW, WE KNEW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE GIRLS 396 00:17:28,581 --> 00:17:31,115 AND GIVE EACH OTHER THE SPACE WE NEEDED, TOO. 397 00:17:31,117 --> 00:17:35,203 HOW'D YOU DO THAT, HAVE YOUR OWN SPACE? 398 00:17:35,205 --> 00:17:36,938 COLETTE, SHE NEVER FINISHED COLLEGE, 399 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:40,007 AND SHE STARTED GETTING INTERESTED IN PSYCHOLOGY, 400 00:17:40,009 --> 00:17:42,093 CHILD DEVELOPMENT CLASSES. 401 00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:45,296 SO SHE DID THAT A COUPLE OF NIGHTS A WEEK, 402 00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:47,932 AND I'D TAKE CARE OF THE GIRLS. 403 00:17:47,934 --> 00:17:49,534 ALL RIGHT. DADDY. 404 00:17:49,536 --> 00:17:52,003 FOR YOU. 405 00:17:52,005 --> 00:17:53,671 FOR YOU. MM. 406 00:17:53,673 --> 00:17:56,407 Girl: THANK YOU, DADDY. 407 00:17:56,409 --> 00:18:02,146 [ HORN HONKS ] 408 00:18:02,148 --> 00:18:05,216 OKAY. BYE, GIRLS. I LOVE YOU. 409 00:18:05,218 --> 00:18:06,684 BYE, SWEETIE. HAVE FUN. 410 00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:07,985 YEAH, I LOVE YOU. 411 00:18:07,987 --> 00:18:09,654 d BUT IT'S TOO LATE d 412 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:11,789 d TOO LATE TO CRY d ALL RIGHT, 413 00:18:11,791 --> 00:18:13,925 WHO'S GONNA WANT ANOTHER HOT DOG? 414 00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:15,426 ME! ME! 415 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:18,012 Joe: WHAT'D YOU DO FOR SPACE? 416 00:18:18,014 --> 00:18:19,397 I GOT INTO BOXING. 417 00:18:19,399 --> 00:18:20,581 BOXING? YEAH. 418 00:18:20,583 --> 00:18:23,101 OKAY, JOE FRAZIER. 419 00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:24,185 HARDLY. 420 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:26,571 I WAS THE DOCTOR FOR THE BASE BOXING TEAM. 421 00:18:26,573 --> 00:18:29,273 I CAUGHT THE BUG AND STARTED TRAINING WITH THEM. 422 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:30,842 THEY WERE GETTING READY FOR THIS -- 423 00:18:30,844 --> 00:18:33,678 THIS BIG COMPETITION IN RUSSIA. 424 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,645 [ GRUNTING ] IT WAS A BIG TRIP. 425 00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:35,980 I'D BE GONE FOR ABOUT A MONTH. 426 00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:38,282 COLETTE WAS GONNA LET YOU GO TO RUSSIA FOR A MONTH. 427 00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:39,967 [ LAUGHS ] YEAH. 428 00:18:39,969 --> 00:18:41,486 SHE WAS ALL FOR IT. 429 00:18:41,488 --> 00:18:43,721 REALLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS MAKING WEIGHT FOR THE MATCH. 430 00:18:43,723 --> 00:18:44,889 I DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE A JOKER 431 00:18:44,891 --> 00:18:47,525 IN FRONT OF THE YOUNGER GUYS. 432 00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:49,510 I REMEMBER THAT AFTERNOON. 433 00:18:49,512 --> 00:18:52,847 I CAME HOME FROM WORK, 434 00:18:52,849 --> 00:18:57,568 AND IT WAS A 24-HOUR SHIFT IN AN OFF-BASE E.R. 435 00:18:57,570 --> 00:19:00,388 I WAS FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS. 436 00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:02,290 [ DISTANT ] HELLO. Girls: [ DISTANT ] DADDY! 437 00:19:02,292 --> 00:19:03,925 [ GIGGLING ] 438 00:19:03,927 --> 00:19:06,561 I FELT LIKE A SUPERHERO, YOU KNOW? 439 00:19:13,102 --> 00:19:15,619 AND IT HAPPENED LATER THAT NIGHT. 440 00:19:15,621 --> 00:19:20,191 dd 441 00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:22,827 SOME SUPERHERO. 442 00:19:26,749 --> 00:19:30,902 dd 443 00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:32,537 [ KNOCKING ] 444 00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:35,906 MR. McGINNISS? 445 00:19:35,908 --> 00:19:38,259 JOE. OKAY. 446 00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:39,777 JOE. 447 00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:42,613 UMM, WHEN JEFFREY PACKED UP THE HOUSE AT FORT BRAGG, 448 00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:44,832 I HELD ONTO SOME OF THE FAMILY THINGS. 449 00:19:44,834 --> 00:19:48,152 IT'S SOME OLD HOME MOVIES. 450 00:19:48,154 --> 00:19:50,655 ANYTHING I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT HELPS. 451 00:19:50,657 --> 00:19:53,658 I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY, BUT PLEASE WATCH THESE 452 00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:58,896 SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY SEE MY GRANDDAUGHTERS AND OUR FAMILY. 453 00:19:58,898 --> 00:20:02,650 THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL. 454 00:20:02,652 --> 00:20:12,410 dd 455 00:20:12,412 --> 00:20:16,781 [ CLICKING ] 456 00:20:21,037 --> 00:20:26,641 dd 457 00:20:26,643 --> 00:20:28,826 [ LIGHT CLICKS ] 458 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:30,228 [ PROJECTOR REEL CLICKING ] 459 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:40,004 dd 460 00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:50,014 dd 461 00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:59,340 dd 462 00:20:59,342 --> 00:21:01,976 [ PROJECTOR REEL CLICKING ] 463 00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:30,421 THAT WAS A DAY I'LL NEVER FORGET. 464 00:21:30,423 --> 00:21:31,405 [ PROJECTOR STOPS ] SO SORRY. 465 00:21:31,407 --> 00:21:32,823 I CAN -- I CAN WATCH THIS LATER. 466 00:21:32,825 --> 00:21:35,426 NO, NO, IT'S OKAY. 467 00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:40,164 UMM, WHERE DID YOU GET THESE? 468 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:41,966 YOUR MOTHER. 469 00:21:44,454 --> 00:21:46,320 PLEASE, GO AHEAD. I WANT TO SEE THEM. 470 00:21:46,322 --> 00:21:47,872 YOU SURE? YEAH. 471 00:21:51,961 --> 00:21:54,312 [ PROJECTOR REEL CLICKING ] 472 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,675 SO THAT'S KRISTEN? 473 00:22:07,677 --> 00:22:10,594 YEAH, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WE BROUGHT HER HOME. 474 00:22:10,596 --> 00:22:12,763 ALL KIMBERLY WANTED TO DO WAS HOLD HER. 475 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:15,466 SHE REALLY JUST WANTED TO PINCH HER. 476 00:22:15,468 --> 00:22:17,268 SHE WAS SO JEALOUS. 477 00:22:26,312 --> 00:22:28,746 AND THAT DAY, WOW. 478 00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:31,615 THAT WAS A GREAT DAY. 479 00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:33,884 COLETTE AND I TOOK THE GIRLS TO VISIT THEIR PONY. 480 00:22:41,127 --> 00:22:43,494 I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME KRISTEN WAS EVER ON A HORSE. 481 00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:54,705 HOW LONG WAS THIS BEFORE THE NIGHT THEY DIED? 482 00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:03,214 IT'D BE A MONTH BEFORE THEY DIED, MAYBE NOT EVEN. 483 00:23:10,473 --> 00:23:15,309 [ FILM FLIPPING ] 484 00:23:15,311 --> 00:23:17,461 [ PROJECTOR STOPS ] 485 00:23:23,035 --> 00:23:27,138 HOW MANY KIDS DO YOU HAVE, JOE? 486 00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:29,140 ME, I HAVE FOUR. 487 00:23:29,142 --> 00:23:32,410 I HAVE A LITTLE BOY NAMED MATTHEW WITH MY WIFE 488 00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:35,846 AND THREE FROM A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE. 489 00:23:35,848 --> 00:23:38,949 HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET TO SEE THEM? 490 00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:43,454 UMM -- NOT AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE. 491 00:23:43,456 --> 00:23:47,792 I MET NANCY WHILE I WAS STILL MARRIED, SO... 492 00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:56,133 I TRY, BUT -- 493 00:23:56,135 --> 00:23:57,768 TRUST ME. 494 00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,603 SPEND AS MUCH TIME WITH THEM AS YOU CAN. 495 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:04,942 OKAY. 496 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:10,414 UMM, YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT? 497 00:24:10,416 --> 00:24:13,317 THE NIGHT THEY DIED? 498 00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,219 SURE. 499 00:24:15,221 --> 00:24:20,291 [ PAPER RUSTLES ] 500 00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:22,526 ONE OF THE GIRLS HAD WET MY SIDE OF THE BED. 501 00:24:22,528 --> 00:24:25,463 IT WAS LATE. 502 00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:27,798 THOUGHT IT'D BE EASIER TO SLEEP IN THE LIVING ROOM 503 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,901 THAN CHANGE THE SHEETS. 504 00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:34,038 DAD, WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO ME? 505 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,440 THIS IS GROOVY. 506 00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:38,309 KILL THE PIGS. DADDY! 507 00:24:38,311 --> 00:24:42,663 ACID RAIN. DADDY! 508 00:24:42,665 --> 00:24:44,281 [ THUD! ] 509 00:24:44,283 --> 00:24:46,183 [ CLATTERING ] 510 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:50,421 [ BLOWS LAND ] 511 00:24:50,423 --> 00:24:54,258 [ ECHOING LAUGHTER ] 512 00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:05,135 [ GRUNTS ] 513 00:25:05,137 --> 00:25:07,204 COLETTE? 514 00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:09,907 [ GRUNTS ] 515 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:17,515 dd 516 00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:19,550 [ Shakily ] OKAY. 517 00:25:19,552 --> 00:25:22,386 OH, GOD. NO, NO. 518 00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:24,121 COME ON. COME ON. 519 00:25:24,123 --> 00:25:26,023 OH, GOD. 520 00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:30,160 [ COUGHS ] [ PANTING ] 521 00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:33,314 [ Sobbing ] OH, GOD, NO. 522 00:25:33,316 --> 00:25:34,448 HELP ME. 523 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:40,087 [ SOBS ] 524 00:25:40,089 --> 00:25:41,956 OH, GOD. NO. 525 00:25:41,958 --> 00:25:45,960 NO, NO, NO, NO. 526 00:25:45,962 --> 00:25:49,330 [ SOBBING ] 527 00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:57,988 [ SOBBING ] NO. 528 00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:05,396 [ SOBBING ] 529 00:26:05,398 --> 00:26:08,132 [ ROTARY TELEPHONE SPINS, DIALS ] 530 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:09,934 Operator: Emergency services. 531 00:26:09,936 --> 00:26:11,402 I NEED AN AMBULANCE. 532 00:26:11,404 --> 00:26:13,604 544 CASTLE DRIVE. 533 00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:16,540 Is that on or off Coast? 534 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:18,709 544 CASTLE DRIVE. 535 00:26:18,711 --> 00:26:21,712 HELP. HURRY. 536 00:26:21,714 --> 00:26:23,280 [ PHONE CLATTERS ] 537 00:26:25,451 --> 00:26:28,786 [ SOBBING ] 538 00:26:28,788 --> 00:26:38,228 dd 539 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,397 I WAS PROBABLY IN SHOCK. 540 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:42,883 I DIDN'T REALIZE AT THE TIME, 541 00:26:42,885 --> 00:26:46,637 BUT WHEN THEY EXAMINED ME LATER AT THE HOSPITAL, 542 00:26:46,639 --> 00:26:50,407 ONE OF MY LUNGS WAS PARTIALLY COLLAPSED. 543 00:26:50,409 --> 00:26:53,544 YOU KNOW, COLETTE WAS PREGNANT. 544 00:26:53,546 --> 00:26:56,847 dd 545 00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:05,623 [ KNOCKS ] MS. MacDONALD? 546 00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:08,258 JUST -- I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE HOME MOVIES. 547 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:12,296 YOU WERE RIGHT, THEY WERE A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. 548 00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:14,164 DID YOU SEE THE ONE WITH COLETTE 549 00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:16,767 LEAVING THE HOSPITAL WITH KRISTEN? 550 00:27:16,769 --> 00:27:17,801 I DID, YEAH. 551 00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:20,638 THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A SPECIAL DAY. 552 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,106 DIDN'T JEFFREY TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED? 553 00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:25,476 NO, HE DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED. 554 00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:30,014 JEFFREY WAS AT THE HOSPITAL WITH COLETTE 555 00:27:30,016 --> 00:27:32,166 NOT LONG AFTER SHE HAD GIVEN BIRTH. 556 00:27:32,168 --> 00:27:35,552 KRISTEN HAD BEEN AN EMERGENCY C-SECTION. 557 00:27:35,554 --> 00:27:43,727 JEFFREY ALL OF A SUDDEN GETS THIS SERIOUS LOOK ON HIS FACE. 558 00:27:43,729 --> 00:27:46,046 HE JUST KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG. 559 00:27:46,048 --> 00:27:48,866 THE WAY THAT REALLY GOOD DOCTORS KNOW THESE THINGS. 560 00:27:48,868 --> 00:27:50,851 SHE HAD BLED ALMOST HALF OF THE BLOOD 561 00:27:50,853 --> 00:27:54,672 FROM HER ENTIRE BODY INTO HER ABDOMEN. 562 00:27:54,674 --> 00:27:57,257 BUT HE CAUGHT IT IN TIME. 563 00:27:57,259 --> 00:28:00,644 JEFFREY SAVED HER LIFE THAT DAY, NO QUESTION. 564 00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:02,179 UMM, NO, YEAH. 565 00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,516 HE DIDN'T -- HE DIDN'T TELL ME THAT. 566 00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:07,217 HE DOESN'T LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE. 567 00:28:09,121 --> 00:28:11,538 COLETTE WOULD HAVE DIED. 568 00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:15,325 JEFFREY SAVED HER LIFE. 569 00:28:15,327 --> 00:28:17,811 WELL, THANK GOD HE WAS THERE. 570 00:28:24,770 --> 00:28:26,370 GENTLEMEN? SORRY TO DISTURB YOU. 571 00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:29,940 CAN I GRAB THE TRANSCRIPTS FROM THE ARTICLE 32 HEARING, PLEASE? 572 00:28:32,778 --> 00:28:34,078 SURE, YOU BET. 573 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,114 GREAT. 574 00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:40,250 [ SIGHS ] 575 00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,186 SAY, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH ME, WADE? 576 00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:46,090 ACTUALLY, YES, THERE IS. 577 00:28:46,092 --> 00:28:49,693 SEE, I'M TRYING TO KEEP MY CLIENT OUT OF JAIL, AND YOU -- 578 00:28:51,697 --> 00:28:53,864 SEE, WHEN JEFF LOOKS AT YOU, 579 00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:56,350 HE SEES SOMEONE WHO CAN SAVE HIS IMAGE. 580 00:28:56,352 --> 00:28:58,502 BUT WHEN I LOOK AT YOU, I SEE SOMEONE 581 00:28:58,504 --> 00:29:00,287 WHO'S BEEN DINING OUT ON THE SAME SUCCESS 582 00:29:00,289 --> 00:29:01,872 FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. 583 00:29:01,874 --> 00:29:06,376 SOMEONE WHO'S ONLY INTERESTED IN JOE McGINNISS'S NEXT BESTSELLER. 584 00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,128 CAN'T IT BE BOTH, WADE? 585 00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:09,947 WADE, TAKE IT EASY. 586 00:29:09,949 --> 00:29:11,548 JOE'S ON OUR SIDE. 587 00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:15,135 RIGHT, JOE? 588 00:29:15,137 --> 00:29:18,071 THANK YOU, BERNIE. 589 00:29:18,073 --> 00:29:21,191 DO REPORTERS TAKE SIDES, JOE?! 590 00:29:24,897 --> 00:29:27,030 [ PAPERS RUSTLING ] 591 00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:46,650 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ] 592 00:29:46,652 --> 00:29:51,488 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 593 00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:52,923 Man: BLOOD SPLATTER RIGHT HERE. 594 00:29:57,596 --> 00:29:58,996 Man #2: MARK IT SEVEN. 595 00:29:58,998 --> 00:30:00,998 Man #3: HERE. 596 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,999 Man #4: MARK THAT ONE. 597 00:30:02,001 --> 00:30:03,333 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING ] 598 00:30:03,335 --> 00:30:06,469 [ INDISTINCT CHATTER ] 599 00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:14,878 dd 600 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,830 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ] 601 00:30:16,832 --> 00:30:19,683 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 602 00:30:19,685 --> 00:30:26,623 dd 603 00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:28,859 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING ] 604 00:30:28,861 --> 00:30:33,797 [ MUSIC CLIMBS ] 605 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,050 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING ] 606 00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:42,773 dd 607 00:30:42,775 --> 00:30:47,777 dd 608 00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:51,415 [ SIGHS ] 609 00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:54,852 IT WAS A DISASTER. 610 00:30:54,854 --> 00:30:56,119 THE ARMY INVESTIGATION. 611 00:30:56,121 --> 00:30:58,005 [ CHUCKLES ] 612 00:30:58,007 --> 00:30:59,890 COFFEE? 613 00:30:59,892 --> 00:31:02,359 YEAH. 614 00:31:06,148 --> 00:31:07,431 SO TELL ME. 615 00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:10,300 WHAT WAS YOUR FAVORITE PART? 616 00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:12,219 I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. 617 00:31:12,221 --> 00:31:14,454 NO CONTROL OF THE CRIME SCENE. 618 00:31:14,456 --> 00:31:16,039 EVERY PIECE OF THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE 619 00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:18,408 POTENTIALLY CONTAMINATED. 620 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:22,045 OR HOW ABOUT NO ONE THOUGHT TO TAKE HAIR SAMPLES 621 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:25,065 FROM THE VICTIMS UNTIL AFTER THE FUNERALS? 622 00:31:25,067 --> 00:31:27,584 [ LAUGHS ] THEY GOT THEIR HAIR EXEMPLARS FROM OLD CLOTHES, 623 00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:31,104 WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE TOTALLY UNRELIABLE. 624 00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:33,423 THE HAIR SAMPLE THEY HAD MARKED AS JEFF'S -- 625 00:31:33,425 --> 00:31:35,259 TURNED OUT TO BE THE FAMILY PONY'S. 626 00:31:35,261 --> 00:31:37,094 WELL, THEY WERE BOTH BRUNETTES. 627 00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:38,629 WHAT ABOUT THE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN 628 00:31:38,631 --> 00:31:39,997 WHEN HE DEVELOPED THE FILM? 629 00:31:39,999 --> 00:31:42,432 PHOTOS THAT WERE SO BLURRY, THEY COULDN'T EVEN USE THEM. 630 00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:45,452 IT WAS THE OLYMPICS OF INCOMPETENCE. 631 00:31:45,454 --> 00:31:47,004 AND NOW YOU KNOW. 632 00:31:47,006 --> 00:31:48,071 WELL, THAT'S YOUR MOVE, RIGHT? 633 00:31:48,073 --> 00:31:49,539 I MEAN, THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO CASE. 634 00:31:49,541 --> 00:31:51,341 [ Laughing ] OH, NO. 635 00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:53,644 WE GOT SOMETHING TO TOP IT ALL. 636 00:31:53,646 --> 00:31:56,680 HELENA STOECKLEY, THE GIRL IN THE FLOPPY HAT. 637 00:31:56,682 --> 00:31:57,681 YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 638 00:31:57,683 --> 00:31:59,883 WE KNOW WHO SHE IS. 639 00:31:59,885 --> 00:32:04,087 SHE WAS A LOCAL KID, 17 AT THE TIME, AN ARMY BRAT. 640 00:32:04,089 --> 00:32:05,872 HER FATHER WAS A CAPTAIN. 641 00:32:05,874 --> 00:32:07,524 SHE WAS A HIPPIE. 642 00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:09,493 HEAVY INTO DRUGS. 643 00:32:09,495 --> 00:32:13,163 AND SHE CONFESSED TO BEING THERE. 644 00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:14,698 YOU'RE KIDDING ME. NO. 645 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:15,766 ONE OF THE MPs THAT CAME TO THE HOUSE 646 00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:17,534 THAT NIGHT SAID HE SAW HER. 647 00:32:17,536 --> 00:32:20,837 HE TOLD HIS SERGEANT ABOUT WHAT HE SAW. 648 00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,740 HIS SERGEANT DIDN'T FOLLOW UP. 649 00:32:23,742 --> 00:32:25,108 DO YOU KNOW WHERE SHE IS? 650 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:26,576 NO, WE'RE LOOKING FOR HER. 651 00:32:26,578 --> 00:32:30,897 BUT WE HAVE SIGNED AFFIDAVITS FROM SIX SEPARATE INDIVIDUALS 652 00:32:30,899 --> 00:32:32,833 WHO HELENA STOECKLEY TOLD 653 00:32:32,835 --> 00:32:35,052 SHE WAS AT JEFF'S HOUSE DURING THE MURDERS. 654 00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:39,506 AND THAT SHE WATCHED IT ALL HAPPEN. 655 00:32:39,508 --> 00:32:41,725 I FILED A MOTION WITH THE JUDGE. 656 00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:47,814 THE JURY WILL HEAR ALL OF THIS. 657 00:32:47,816 --> 00:32:50,667 [ INSECTS CHIRPING ] ALL RIGHT, SO THE PROSECUTION. 658 00:32:50,669 --> 00:32:54,271 WHO ARE THESE GUYS? IT'S YOUR BET, JOE. 659 00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:57,707 [ CHIPS CLINKING ] WELL, ANTE UP, BOYS. 660 00:32:57,709 --> 00:32:58,692 BLACKBURN. 661 00:32:58,694 --> 00:33:00,110 THIS GUY IS STRAIGHT OUT OF MAYBERRY. 662 00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:01,678 IT'S HIS FIRST MURDER TRIAL. 663 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,096 THEY BROUGHT HIM IN TO TAKE THE EDGE OFF 664 00:33:03,098 --> 00:33:07,684 OF BRIAN MURTAGH WHO'S BEEN ON JEFF SINCE DECEMBER OF '71. 665 00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:10,620 HE'S FREDDY KASSAB'S MUSCLE, HIS ATTACK DOG. 666 00:33:10,622 --> 00:33:12,873 WELL, IF THEY SAY JEFF DID IT, HOW AND WHY? 667 00:33:12,875 --> 00:33:15,359 EXACTLY, HOW AND WHY DOES AN IVY LEAGUE, 668 00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:18,462 GREEN BERET DOCTOR ONE NIGHT SNAP 669 00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:20,597 AND KILL HIS WHOLE FAMILY? 670 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,565 NEVER BEEN IN ANY KIND OF TROUBLE. 671 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:25,686 HE'S A PILLAR IN HIS COMMUNITY. 672 00:33:25,688 --> 00:33:29,523 AND ONE NIGHT, HE GOES LOONEY TUNES AND JUST EXPLODES? 673 00:33:29,525 --> 00:33:31,041 AND GET THIS. 674 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:36,346 THEY SAY HE GOT THE IDEA FROM A MAGAZINE 675 00:33:36,348 --> 00:33:38,882 THEY FOUND IN THE HOUSE THAT HAD AN ARTICLE 676 00:33:38,884 --> 00:33:41,852 ABOUT THE MANSON FAMILY IN IT, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? 677 00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:43,120 AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING WITH? 678 00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:44,488 THIS IS THE DRUM 679 00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:47,657 BRIAN MURTAGH HAS BEEN BEATING FOR EIGHT YEARS. 680 00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:48,809 HE WAS ON A WITCH HUNT. 681 00:33:48,811 --> 00:33:50,510 MURTAGH'S A SON OF A BITCH. HE'S A VIPER. 682 00:33:50,512 --> 00:33:53,030 THE MAN IS A MENACE. 683 00:33:53,032 --> 00:33:54,131 RIGHT. 684 00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:58,952 [ CHIPS CLACKING ] 685 00:33:58,954 --> 00:34:01,438 I'M ALL-IN. 686 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,240 [ Chuckling ] WHOA. 687 00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:05,642 I FOLD. 688 00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:08,145 I'M OUT. 689 00:34:17,890 --> 00:34:22,192 I FOLD. 690 00:34:22,194 --> 00:34:25,362 [ EXHALES ] 691 00:34:25,364 --> 00:34:28,765 [ SNIFFS ] 692 00:34:32,438 --> 00:34:34,204 [ BIRDS CHIRPING ] 693 00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:37,691 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 694 00:34:37,693 --> 00:34:40,210 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ] 695 00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:48,618 dd 696 00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:52,589 MR. MURTAGH. 697 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:54,758 WE MEET AGAIN. 698 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,526 AND AGAIN. 699 00:34:56,528 --> 00:34:59,346 UNTIL WE GET IT RIGHT. 700 00:34:59,348 --> 00:35:00,764 DR. MacDONALD. 701 00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:02,632 HOW DO YOU LIKE BEING BACK IN NORTH CAROLINA? 702 00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:04,000 [ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ] 703 00:35:04,002 --> 00:35:06,203 dd 704 00:35:06,205 --> 00:35:08,004 Segal: COME ON, JEFF. 705 00:35:12,411 --> 00:35:13,560 HE SEEMS CONFIDENT. 706 00:35:16,715 --> 00:35:19,583 THE GOVERNMENT WILL SHOW THAT IN THE EARLY MORNING 707 00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:24,488 OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970, JEFFREY MacDONALD, 708 00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:27,157 FOR REASONS WE MIGHT NEVER UNDERSTAND, 709 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,593 DID IN FACT, ATTACK, BLUDGEON, 710 00:35:29,595 --> 00:35:31,661 AND STAB HIS WIFE AND HIS TWO DAUGHTERS TO DEATH. 711 00:35:31,663 --> 00:35:36,566 AND THEN STAGED HIS HOME TO LOOK AS THOUGH 712 00:35:36,568 --> 00:35:38,869 IT WAS THE WORK OF INTRUDERS. 713 00:35:38,871 --> 00:35:41,955 COOKING UP A STORY ABOUT MURDEROUS HIPPIES 714 00:35:41,957 --> 00:35:46,143 TO TRY TO THROW SUSPICION OFF HIMSELF. 715 00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:48,578 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE JURY, 716 00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:50,347 AT THE HEART OF OUR CASE 717 00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:51,982 IS THE PROPOSITION 718 00:35:51,984 --> 00:35:54,684 THAT PEOPLE CAN TWIST THE TRUTH, 719 00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,120 BUT THAT THINGS DO NOT LIE. 720 00:35:57,122 --> 00:36:01,858 AND WE WILL PROVE THAT THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION 721 00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:04,127 FOR HOW THOSE VIBRANT LITTLE GIRLS 722 00:36:04,129 --> 00:36:05,729 AND THEIR MOTHER COULD HAVE DIED 723 00:36:05,731 --> 00:36:07,964 EXCEPT AT THE HANDS OF THEIR OWN FATHER. 724 00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:13,570 THE GOVERNMENT HAS A BAD CASE. 725 00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:15,939 BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD VILLAIN. 726 00:36:15,941 --> 00:36:18,942 WHAT THEY DO HAVE IS A LOVING FATHER AND HUSBAND, 727 00:36:18,944 --> 00:36:23,163 NOT TO MENTION A DOCTOR AND A GREEN BERET. 728 00:36:23,165 --> 00:36:27,384 THIS IS A STORY OF A MAN'S LIFE THAT WAS TRAGICALLY ALTERED 729 00:36:27,386 --> 00:36:31,588 WHEN FOUR DRUGGED-OUT HIPPIES BROKE INTO HIS HOME, 730 00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:35,859 MURDERED HIS WIFE, HIS TWO LOVELY LITTLE GIRLS, 731 00:36:35,861 --> 00:36:39,196 AND LEFT HIM FOR DEAD. 732 00:36:39,198 --> 00:36:43,667 NOW, THE PROSECUTION CAN OFFER NO MOTIVE FOR THESE MURDERS 733 00:36:43,669 --> 00:36:48,905 BECAUSE JEFFREY MacDONALD HAD NO MOTIVE FOR KILLING HIS FAMILY. 734 00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:55,545 SERGEANT MICA, REMIND ME AGAIN WHEN YOU WERE RELIEVED OF DUTY 735 00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:58,164 AND TURNED THE CRIME SCENE OVER. 736 00:36:58,166 --> 00:37:00,883 AT 0700 HOURS, MY SUPERIOR OFFICER ARRIVED 737 00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:02,919 AT THE CRIME SCENE AND TOOK OVER. 738 00:37:02,921 --> 00:37:04,087 TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, 739 00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:06,006 DID YOU CARRY OUT STANDARD PROTOCOL 740 00:37:06,008 --> 00:37:08,775 FOR PROCESSING A CRIME SCENE? 741 00:37:08,777 --> 00:37:12,662 TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, SIR, YES. 742 00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:14,080 THANK YOU, SERGEANT. 743 00:37:14,082 --> 00:37:16,600 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 744 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:28,578 SO, SERGEANT, YOU WERE IN CHARGE OF THE INVESTIGATION THAT NIGHT, 745 00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:29,779 IS THAT CORRECT? 746 00:37:29,781 --> 00:37:32,549 YES, SIR. 747 00:37:32,551 --> 00:37:36,369 AND TELL ME, HOW MANY CRIME SCENES 748 00:37:36,371 --> 00:37:41,324 OF THIS MAGNITUDE HAVE YOU PROCESSED? 749 00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:43,627 OF THIS MAGNITUDE, NONE, SIR. 750 00:37:46,365 --> 00:37:49,232 CAN YOU TELL ME, SERGEANT, HOW MANY MILITARY POLICEMEN 751 00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:53,386 WERE IN THAT HOUSE THE NIGHT YOU WERE THERE? 752 00:37:53,388 --> 00:37:57,324 MAYBE A DOZEN. 753 00:37:57,326 --> 00:38:02,862 AND DID YOU ATTEMPT TO COMPILE A LIST OF NAMES OF WHO WAS THERE? 754 00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:05,181 NO, SIR. 755 00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:07,583 SO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO ACTUALLY CAME 756 00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:10,570 AND WENT THAT NIGHT. 757 00:38:10,572 --> 00:38:14,891 NOT EXACTLY. 758 00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:17,811 AND WHEN DID YOU DISCOVER THAT ONE OF YOUR MEN HAD STOLEN 759 00:38:17,813 --> 00:38:21,431 DR. MacDONALD'S WALLET FROM A DESK 760 00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:24,267 IN THE ACTIVE CRIME SCENE? 761 00:38:24,269 --> 00:38:26,670 THAT I LEARNED LATER. 762 00:38:26,672 --> 00:38:30,307 AND AFTER HEARING DR. MacDONALD'S DESCRIPTION 763 00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:34,427 OF THE FOUR ASSAILANTS, 764 00:38:34,429 --> 00:38:39,666 DID YOU ORDER ROAD BLOCKS AT THE EXITS OF THE POST? 765 00:38:39,668 --> 00:38:40,834 NO, SIR. 766 00:38:40,836 --> 00:38:43,119 EVEN AFTER ONE OF YOUR MEN SAID HE SAW A WOMAN 767 00:38:43,121 --> 00:38:45,488 MATCHING THE DESCRIPTION OF THE FEMALE SUSPECT, 768 00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:51,694 A WOMAN WITH LONG, BLONDE HAIR AND A FLOPPY HAT IN THE AREA? 769 00:38:51,696 --> 00:38:52,695 NO. 770 00:38:52,697 --> 00:38:57,167 [ MURMURING ] 771 00:38:57,636 --> 00:38:59,069 [ GAVEL POUNDS ] 772 00:38:59,071 --> 00:39:01,638 Man: THE COURT IS RECESSED UNTIL 9:00 A.M. TOMORROW. 773 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,741 dd 774 00:39:04,743 --> 00:39:06,893 WE HAD A GOOD DAY. 775 00:39:06,895 --> 00:39:08,495 YOU THINK THE JURY WAS WITH ME? 776 00:39:08,497 --> 00:39:09,746 YEAH. 777 00:39:09,748 --> 00:39:11,047 YEAH, I DO. 778 00:39:11,049 --> 00:39:13,216 THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR, JOE, BECAUSE I TRUST YOU. 779 00:39:13,218 --> 00:39:14,317 THANK YOU. 780 00:39:14,319 --> 00:39:15,251 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO TELL THE STORY. 781 00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:17,804 OF COURSE. I'M HERE FOR YOU. 782 00:39:17,806 --> 00:39:20,623 dd 783 00:39:20,625 --> 00:39:22,025 Judge: GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. 784 00:39:22,027 --> 00:39:24,861 I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS IN. 785 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,046 ANY OF THEM. 786 00:39:26,048 --> 00:39:27,630 BUT YOUR HONOR? 787 00:39:27,632 --> 00:39:29,649 THE EVALUATIONS ARE CRITICAL TO OUR CASE. 788 00:39:29,651 --> 00:39:32,318 THEY SPEAK TO OUR CLIENT'S STATE OF MIND. 789 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,539 THEY SHOW THAT JEFFREY MacDONALD WAS NOT CAPABLE OF SUCH A CRIME. 790 00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:38,641 MR. SEGAL, YOUR EVALUATION SAYS ONE THING, 791 00:39:38,643 --> 00:39:40,043 PROSECUTION SAYS ANOTHER. 792 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:42,912 I'M NOT GOING ALLOW THIS TO TURN INTO A SHRINK VERSUS SHRINK. 793 00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:45,749 THAT'S MY DECISION. 794 00:39:45,751 --> 00:39:48,718 NOW, IN REGARD TO THE DEFENSE'S MOTION 795 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,888 TO ENTER WITNESS AFFIDAVITS INTO EVIDENCE 796 00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,523 CONCERNING THE CONFESSION STATEMENTS 797 00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:56,309 OF ONE HELENA STOECKLEY, 798 00:39:56,311 --> 00:40:00,246 I'M DENYING THAT MOTION ALSO BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON HEARSAY. 799 00:40:00,248 --> 00:40:03,817 WITH RESPECT, YOUR HONOR, WE HAVE SIX SEPARATE WITNESSES 800 00:40:03,819 --> 00:40:05,869 WHO CORROBORATE THAT HELENA STOECKLEY 801 00:40:05,871 --> 00:40:07,504 CONFESSED TO BEING PRESENT 802 00:40:07,506 --> 00:40:10,907 AT THE MacDONALD HOME DURING THE MURDERS. 803 00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:14,310 KEEPING THIS FROM THE JURY -- I MADE MY RULING. 804 00:40:14,312 --> 00:40:16,629 IF MS. STOECKLEY HERSELF WISHES TO TESTIFY, 805 00:40:16,631 --> 00:40:19,282 THEN SHE IS FREE TO DO SO. 806 00:40:19,484 --> 00:40:21,818 [ GROANS QUIETLY ] 807 00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:28,041 dd 808 00:40:28,043 --> 00:40:29,759 Jeffery: I THINK THE JURY WILL BE ON MY SIDE. 809 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:31,294 WHAT DO YOU GIRLS THINK? 810 00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:32,429 YEAH? 811 00:40:32,431 --> 00:40:33,613 YOU SURE? 812 00:40:33,615 --> 00:40:36,566 YES, OF COURSE. 813 00:40:36,568 --> 00:40:38,902 I LIKE YOUR PAPER. 814 00:40:38,904 --> 00:40:41,421 [ LAUGHS ] 815 00:40:41,423 --> 00:40:43,389 ALL RIGHT. 816 00:40:43,391 --> 00:40:45,642 [ GIRLS GIGGLING ] 817 00:40:47,746 --> 00:40:49,662 ALL RIGHT. 818 00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:51,714 AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE POLICE SERVICE BUREAU, 819 00:40:51,716 --> 00:40:54,350 AND I RUN THE CRIME LABORATORY THERE. 820 00:40:54,352 --> 00:40:57,320 PRIOR TO THIS, I WAS A FIELD AGENT IN THE FBI, 821 00:40:57,322 --> 00:40:59,889 AND I WORKED IN THE MICROSCOPIC ANALYSIS UNIT. 822 00:40:59,891 --> 00:41:01,290 Blackburn: THANK YOU. 823 00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:03,526 AND DID YOU HAVE OCCASION TO STUDY THE BLOOD EVIDENCE 824 00:41:03,528 --> 00:41:05,895 COLLECTED FROM 544 CASTLE DRIVE? 825 00:41:05,897 --> 00:41:08,331 YES, SIR, I DID. 826 00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:11,768 TELL US WHAT YOU LEARNED ABOUT THE BLOOD TYPES OF THE FAMILY? 827 00:41:11,770 --> 00:41:14,370 WELL, EACH MEMBER OF THE MacDONALD FAMILY -- 828 00:41:14,372 --> 00:41:16,573 DR. MacDONALD, MRS. MacDONALD, 829 00:41:16,575 --> 00:41:18,241 KIMBERLY, AND KRISTEN -- 830 00:41:18,243 --> 00:41:19,876 ALL HAD DIFFERENT BLOOD TYPES. 831 00:41:19,878 --> 00:41:20,910 ONE MOMENT, MR. STOMBAUGH. 832 00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:24,581 LET ME JUST CLARIFY FOR THE JURY. 833 00:41:24,583 --> 00:41:27,016 ARE YOU SAYING THAT, AGAINST ALL ODDS, 834 00:41:27,018 --> 00:41:30,036 IT TURNS OUT THAT THE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE MacDONALD FAMILY 835 00:41:30,038 --> 00:41:32,856 EACH HAD A SEPARATE AND IDENTIFIABLE BLOOD TYPE? 836 00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:33,690 THAT'S CORRECT. 837 00:41:33,692 --> 00:41:35,225 IT'S STATISTICALLY IMPROBABLE, 838 00:41:35,227 --> 00:41:37,894 BUT IT HAPPENS TO BE THE CASE HERE. 839 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,630 MR. STOMBAUGH. 840 00:41:40,632 --> 00:41:42,515 CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THIS IS HELPFUL 841 00:41:42,517 --> 00:41:44,267 TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE EVENTS 842 00:41:44,269 --> 00:41:46,719 OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970? 843 00:41:46,721 --> 00:41:50,540 WELL, NOW WE CAN DETERMINE TO A GOOD DEGREE OF CERTAINTY 844 00:41:50,542 --> 00:41:54,277 WHO BLED WHERE AND WHEN, AND IN SOME CASES, FOR HOW LONG. 845 00:41:54,279 --> 00:41:56,813 YOU'VE READ DR. MacDONALD'S STATEMENTS 846 00:41:56,815 --> 00:41:58,598 ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. 847 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,885 IN YOUR OPINION, DOES THE STORY THE BLOOD TYPES TELL 848 00:42:01,887 --> 00:42:04,687 CORROBORATE DR. MacDONALD'S VERSION? 849 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:08,892 NO, IT DOES NOT. 850 00:42:08,894 --> 00:42:13,029 WHERE WAS THE PREPONDERANCE OF COLETTE MacDONALD'S BLOOD FOUND? 851 00:42:13,031 --> 00:42:15,198 THERE IN THE MASTER BEDROOM, 852 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,536 AND ALSO A VERY LARGE AMOUNT IN KRISTEN'S ROOM ON THE BED. 853 00:42:19,538 --> 00:42:20,653 HERE AND HERE? 854 00:42:20,655 --> 00:42:22,171 YES. 855 00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:25,291 AND WHERE WAS THE BULK OF KRISTEN'S BLOOD FOUND? 856 00:42:25,293 --> 00:42:27,010 IN HER ROOM THERE. 857 00:42:27,012 --> 00:42:28,011 AND KIMBERLY'S? 858 00:42:28,013 --> 00:42:30,880 ON HER BED, AND ALSO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT 859 00:42:30,882 --> 00:42:32,098 IN THE HALLWAY 860 00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,417 JUST OUTSIDE THE MASTER BEDROOM. 861 00:42:34,419 --> 00:42:37,053 AND WHERE WAS DR. MacDONALD'S BLOOD FOUND? 862 00:42:37,055 --> 00:42:40,123 THERE WERE TWO DROPS IN THE BATHROOM SINK 863 00:42:40,125 --> 00:42:42,191 AND A FEW DROPS ON THE KITCHEN FLOOR. 864 00:42:42,193 --> 00:42:45,228 AND HOW MUCH OF HIS BLOOD WAS FOUND IN THE LIVING ROOM 865 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,565 WHERE HE CLAIMS TO HAVE FOUGHT OFF FOUR ASSAILANTS? 866 00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:51,000 NONE. [ MURMURING ] 867 00:42:51,002 --> 00:42:53,336 MR. STOMBAUGH, THE "ESQUIRE" MAGAZINE 868 00:42:53,338 --> 00:42:57,307 THAT WAS ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE, WAS THERE ANY BLOOD ON IT? 869 00:42:57,309 --> 00:43:00,777 YES, THERE WAS, TYPE AB AND A. 870 00:43:00,779 --> 00:43:03,396 THAT'S KIMBERLY'S AND MRS. MacDONALD'S. 871 00:43:03,398 --> 00:43:07,250 IT WAS OVER THE "QU" ON THE COVER. 872 00:43:07,252 --> 00:43:10,820 THIS MAGAZINE, WHICH CONTAINED AN ARTICLE 873 00:43:10,822 --> 00:43:13,289 ABOUT THE THEN-RECENT MANSON FAMILY MURDERS. 874 00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:15,191 OBJECTION! SUSTAINED. 875 00:43:18,330 --> 00:43:20,680 JEFFREY MacDONALD'S STORY IS THAT 876 00:43:20,682 --> 00:43:23,866 WHEN HE CAME UPON HIS WIFE IN THE MASTER BEDROOM, 877 00:43:23,868 --> 00:43:27,136 THIS KNIFE WAS STICKING OUT OF HER CHEST. 878 00:43:27,138 --> 00:43:30,239 HE SAYS HE REMOVED IT BEFORE ADMINISTERING CPR. 879 00:43:30,241 --> 00:43:32,475 DOES THE BLOOD EVIDENCE YOU FOUND SUPPORT THIS? 880 00:43:32,477 --> 00:43:34,360 Stombaugh: NO. 881 00:43:34,362 --> 00:43:35,645 WHY NOT? 882 00:43:35,647 --> 00:43:38,398 WELL, OF THE 37 WOUNDS ON MRS. MacDONALD'S BODY, 883 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,949 THE EVIDENCE WOULD INDICATE THAT NONE OF THEM 884 00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:41,167 WERE MADE BY THAT KNIFE. 885 00:43:41,169 --> 00:43:42,935 SO, MRS. MacDONALD WAS NOT STABBED 886 00:43:42,937 --> 00:43:43,770 WITH THIS KNIFE? 887 00:43:43,772 --> 00:43:48,224 SHE WAS NOT. 888 00:43:48,226 --> 00:43:50,827 MR. STOMBAUGH, 889 00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:52,912 CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THIS IS HERE? 890 00:43:52,914 --> 00:43:54,430 ACCORDING TO PRIOR TESTIMONY, 891 00:43:54,432 --> 00:43:56,866 THAT IS DR. MacDONALD'S FOOTPRINT. 892 00:43:56,868 --> 00:43:59,302 AND WHAT BLOOD TYPE WAS THE FOOTPRINT MADE IN? 893 00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:02,055 TYPE A, MRS. MacDONALD'S. 894 00:44:02,057 --> 00:44:04,173 LET ME REPEAT THAT. 895 00:44:04,175 --> 00:44:05,675 THIS IS JEFFREY MacDONALD'S FOOTPRINT 896 00:44:05,677 --> 00:44:07,477 THAT WAS MADE IN HIS WIFE'S BLOOD? 897 00:44:07,479 --> 00:44:08,744 YES. 898 00:44:08,746 --> 00:44:12,081 TELL US WHAT YOU CAN ALSO CONCLUDE ABOUT THIS FOOTPRINT. 899 00:44:12,083 --> 00:44:14,300 THE IMPRESSION OF THE PRINT ON THE FLOOR 900 00:44:14,302 --> 00:44:16,519 INDICATES THAT WHEN HE MADE IT, 901 00:44:16,521 --> 00:44:17,987 DR. MacDONALD WAS CARRYING SOMETHING HEAVY. 902 00:44:17,989 --> 00:44:21,357 SOMETHING HEAVY. 903 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:24,994 LIKE, SAY, HE WAS CARRYING SOMETHING THAT WEIGHED, 904 00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:27,196 OH, OVER 100 POUNDS? 905 00:44:27,198 --> 00:44:28,614 WELL, POSSIBLY. 906 00:44:28,616 --> 00:44:31,100 IT'S HARD TO KNOW FOR SURE, BUT THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. 907 00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:33,169 MR. STOMBAUGH, 908 00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:34,404 DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY 909 00:44:34,406 --> 00:44:35,871 HOW MUCH COLETTE MacDONALD WEIGHED? 910 00:44:35,873 --> 00:44:37,306 OBJECTION! I DO NOT. 911 00:44:37,308 --> 00:44:38,708 SHE WEIGHED 135 POUNDS. 912 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:39,842 OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR! 913 00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:40,843 SUSTAINED. 914 00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:44,580 [ MURMURING ] 915 00:44:44,582 --> 00:44:54,357 dd 916 00:44:54,359 --> 00:45:01,264 dd 917 00:45:01,266 --> 00:45:04,500 [ BOTTLES CLACKING ] 918 00:45:04,502 --> 00:45:08,204 THAT WAS ROUGH TODAY. 919 00:45:13,111 --> 00:45:14,260 UMM, YEAH, IT WAS A PRETTY 920 00:45:14,262 --> 00:45:17,180 BRUTAL REBUTTAL OF YOUR WHOLE STORY. 921 00:45:17,182 --> 00:45:20,233 I DON'T HAVE A STORY. IT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 922 00:45:20,235 --> 00:45:21,317 IT'S THE TRUTH. 923 00:45:21,319 --> 00:45:25,221 [ CRUNCHING ] 924 00:45:25,223 --> 00:45:26,255 LET ME ASK YOU. 925 00:45:26,257 --> 00:45:27,757 WHAT DID YOU THINK OF STOMBAUGH? 926 00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:29,859 HOW DID HE COME OFF TO YOU? 927 00:45:29,861 --> 00:45:35,732 [ NUTS CRACKING ] 928 00:45:35,734 --> 00:45:37,166 HE SEEMED SERIOUS. 929 00:45:37,168 --> 00:45:41,404 HE SEEMED LIKE HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. 930 00:45:44,359 --> 00:45:46,309 I THOUGHT SO, TOO. 931 00:45:46,311 --> 00:45:48,478 [ CRUNCHING ] 932 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,180 I WAS TALKING WITH BERNIE. 933 00:45:51,182 --> 00:45:56,369 THE CRIME SCENE EVIDENCE IS SO COMPROMISED. 934 00:45:56,371 --> 00:45:57,987 HE WAS PROBABLY MAKING AN HONEST EFFORT. 935 00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:02,725 YEAH, THAT'S A POINT WORTH CONSIDERING. 936 00:46:02,727 --> 00:46:11,701 dd 937 00:46:11,703 --> 00:46:13,536 dd 938 00:46:13,538 --> 00:46:14,470 MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT YOU'RE STILL WITH ME. 939 00:46:14,472 --> 00:46:17,256 THAT YOU'RE STILL COMMITTED. 940 00:46:17,258 --> 00:46:23,496 dd 941 00:46:23,498 --> 00:46:25,698 I DIDN'T KILL COLETTE AND THE GIRLS. 942 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:28,935 dd 943 00:46:28,937 --> 00:46:32,605 I COULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT. 944 00:46:32,607 --> 00:46:35,041 I LOVED THEM. 945 00:46:39,364 --> 00:46:40,863 YOU BELIEVE ME, RIGHT? 946 00:46:43,568 --> 00:46:46,018 I KNOW YOU LOVE THEM. 947 00:46:49,874 --> 00:46:53,276 I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE, JOE. 948 00:46:53,278 --> 00:46:55,111 IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE TRUTH OUT THERE. 949 00:46:57,031 --> 00:46:58,614 MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER. 950 00:47:06,724 --> 00:47:10,426 Segal: BUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE? 951 00:47:10,428 --> 00:47:12,528 COME ON, WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT. 952 00:47:12,530 --> 00:47:15,198 YEAH, I'M SURE WE CAN. 953 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,333 HEY! HOLD ON A MINUTE. 954 00:47:17,335 --> 00:47:18,467 WE GOT A PIECE OF GOOD NEWS. 955 00:47:18,469 --> 00:47:19,869 THEY FOUND HELENA STOECKLEY HIDING OUT 956 00:47:19,871 --> 00:47:22,839 IN SOME TRAILER PARK IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 957 00:47:22,841 --> 00:47:24,473 [ SNAPS FINGERS ] 958 00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:26,375 FEDERAL MARSHALS ARE DRAGGING HER BACK HERE 959 00:47:26,377 --> 00:47:27,844 TO RALEIGH TO TESTIFY. 960 00:47:27,846 --> 00:47:30,313 WOW. [ CHUCKLES ] 961 00:47:30,315 --> 00:47:32,181 WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT YOUR BOOK, WRITER. 962 00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:34,817 THAT'S REALLY GOOD. 963 00:47:34,819 --> 00:47:36,686 THAT'S GREAT. THE SOONER, THE BETTER. 964 00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:50,633 dd 965 00:47:50,635 --> 00:48:00,376 dd 966 00:48:00,378 --> 00:48:02,144 dd 967 00:48:02,146 --> 00:48:04,397 [ GASPING ] 968 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:15,358 MS. STOECKLEY, HOW ARE YOU? 969 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,425 FINE. 970 00:48:16,427 --> 00:48:20,196 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 971 00:48:20,198 --> 00:48:21,564 MS. STOECKLEY, CAN YOU TELL US 972 00:48:21,566 --> 00:48:27,169 WHERE YOU WERE IN THE EARLY MORNING OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970? 973 00:48:32,744 --> 00:48:34,710 NO. 974 00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:38,981 [ MURMURING ] 975 00:48:47,458 --> 00:48:51,661 HELENA, DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS HOUSE? 976 00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:55,798 NO. 977 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,916 LOOK CLOSELY. 978 00:49:00,972 --> 00:49:03,406 SORRY, NO. 979 00:49:07,045 --> 00:49:09,679 DOES THIS HELP? 980 00:49:09,681 --> 00:49:13,749 NOW DO YOU REMEMBER? 981 00:49:13,751 --> 00:49:15,601 I CAN'T HELP YOU. 982 00:49:17,956 --> 00:49:20,723 I UNDERSTAND ALL THIS HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO. 983 00:49:27,699 --> 00:49:31,233 SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TAKE YOUR TIME. 984 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,407 THE PHOTO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IS A LITTLE ROUGH, 985 00:49:38,409 --> 00:49:41,327 BUT I'M HOPING IT MIGHT JOLT YOUR MEMORY BACK TO THAT NIGHT. 986 00:49:47,919 --> 00:49:50,920 THAT IS DR. MacDONALD'S FLESH AND BLOOD, HELENA. 987 00:49:54,475 --> 00:49:59,595 WHAT KIND OF FATHER WOULD DO THAT TO HIS OWN DAUGHTER? 988 00:49:59,597 --> 00:50:02,064 I DON'T KNOW. 989 00:50:06,871 --> 00:50:09,505 LOOK AT HIS WIFE, HELENA. 990 00:50:09,507 --> 00:50:12,441 LOOK AT THIS PICTURE. 991 00:50:12,443 --> 00:50:15,861 AT THIS POOR WOMAN. 992 00:50:15,863 --> 00:50:21,951 A WOMAN THAT MAN OVER THERE FELL IN LOVE WITH 993 00:50:21,953 --> 00:50:25,254 IN THE EIGHTH GRADE. 994 00:50:25,256 --> 00:50:26,689 DR. MacDONALD 995 00:50:26,691 --> 00:50:29,959 IS A LOVING, NORMAL PERSON. 996 00:50:32,547 --> 00:50:34,697 HAVE YOU EVER BEEN INSIDE THIS HOUSE? 997 00:50:37,435 --> 00:50:38,901 NO. 998 00:50:38,903 --> 00:50:42,138 I WASN'T. I'M SORRY. 999 00:50:42,140 --> 00:50:45,841 I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO. 1000 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,213 BESIDES, HOW DO YOU KNOW HE'S NOT GUILTY? 1001 00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:59,688 [ MURMURING ] 1002 00:50:59,690 --> 00:51:02,525 [ CHAIR SCRAPES ] 1003 00:51:02,527 --> 00:51:04,643 LOOK, JEFF... 1004 00:51:04,645 --> 00:51:07,530 I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE PAINFUL FOR YOU, 1005 00:51:07,532 --> 00:51:10,132 BUT TOMORROW, WHEN YOU'RE ON THAT STAND, 1006 00:51:10,134 --> 00:51:13,636 I REALLY WANT THE JURY TO MEET THE VICTIMS. 1007 00:51:13,638 --> 00:51:16,906 I WANT TO PUT THEIR PICTURES UP SO THEY CAN SEE THEM... 1008 00:51:16,908 --> 00:51:19,592 AND FOR THE JURY TO SEE YOU SEEING THEM. 1009 00:51:19,594 --> 00:51:22,278 WHAT GOOD IS THAT GONNA DO? JEFF, LISTEN TO ME. 1010 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,647 I WANT THOSE JURORS TO SEE PEOPLE, 1011 00:51:24,649 --> 00:51:28,751 NOT JUST A COLLECTION OF FIBERS AND HAIRS AND BLOODSTAINS. 1012 00:51:28,753 --> 00:51:31,754 I WANT THEM TO SEE YOUR FAMILY, THE MacDONALDs. 1013 00:51:31,756 --> 00:51:33,422 WELL, I DON'T THINK -- I SHOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE! 1014 00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:39,028 [ BREATHING HEAVILY ] 1015 00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:44,200 GET ALL THE ANXIETY AND STRESS OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM TONIGHT. 1016 00:51:44,202 --> 00:51:48,971 JUST BE YOURSELF IN THAT COURTROOM, AND YOU'LL BE FINE. 1017 00:51:48,973 --> 00:51:50,739 WHO ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO BE? 1018 00:51:53,678 --> 00:52:03,452 dd 1019 00:52:03,454 --> 00:52:11,994 dd 1020 00:52:11,996 --> 00:52:14,380 [ INSECTS CHIRPING ] 1021 00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:23,455 [ FLOORBOARDS CREAKING ] 1022 00:52:23,457 --> 00:52:25,491 [ GASPS ] 1023 00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:34,216 JEFF, WHAT'S GOING ON? 1024 00:52:34,218 --> 00:52:38,020 TOMORROW, I'M GONNA GET UP ON THAT STAND... 1025 00:52:38,022 --> 00:52:41,257 MM... 1026 00:52:41,259 --> 00:52:44,593 AND I HOPE TO GOD THEY SEE WHO I AM. 1027 00:52:44,595 --> 00:52:46,295 ALL THOSE PEOPLE LOOKIN' AT ME. 1028 00:52:50,001 --> 00:52:52,868 IN A LOT OF WAYS, I'VE ALWAYS... 1029 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:55,437 BEEN A PERFORMER. 1030 00:52:58,075 --> 00:52:59,725 YOU CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO BE... 1031 00:53:01,979 --> 00:53:05,447 WITH THE WHOLE WORLD ALWAYS LOOKING AT YOU, YOU KNOW? 1032 00:53:05,449 --> 00:53:06,949 THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING. 1033 00:53:13,558 --> 00:53:15,257 ARE YOU GONNA TELL THE TRUTH? 1034 00:53:18,396 --> 00:53:20,863 I TOLD YOU I WOULD. 1035 00:53:24,502 --> 00:53:29,205 GOOD NIGHT, JOE McGINNISS. [ BREATHES DEEPLY ] 1036 00:53:29,207 --> 00:53:34,310 dd 1037 00:53:41,002 --> 00:53:42,952 DR. MacDONALD, 1038 00:53:42,954 --> 00:53:45,888 CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THIS PICTURE DEPICTS? 1039 00:53:47,892 --> 00:53:51,193 IT'S KRIS AND KIM, MY LITTLE GIRLS. 1040 00:53:54,232 --> 00:53:59,568 CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE CLOTHING THAT KRISTEN MacDONALD 1041 00:53:59,570 --> 00:54:03,289 IS WEARING? 1042 00:54:03,291 --> 00:54:05,608 PAJAMAS. 1043 00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:12,164 THE SAME PAJAMAS SHE WAS WEARING THE NIGHT OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970? 1044 00:54:12,166 --> 00:54:13,616 [ Hushed ] YES. 1045 00:54:15,803 --> 00:54:18,354 CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IT READS ACROSS THE TOP OF THE PAJAMAS, 1046 00:54:18,356 --> 00:54:19,588 PLEASE? 1047 00:54:25,046 --> 00:54:26,795 [ Shakily ] "LITTLE ANGEL." 1048 00:54:26,797 --> 00:54:29,381 [ SNIFFS ] 1049 00:54:38,009 --> 00:54:40,276 DR. MacDONALD, I WOULD LIKE YOU 1050 00:54:40,278 --> 00:54:45,331 TO SHARE A LETTER DATED AUGUST 26, 1969. 1051 00:54:45,333 --> 00:54:48,050 FROM YOUR WIFE TO YOU. 1052 00:54:48,052 --> 00:54:49,568 SHE WAS IN PATCHOGUE, LONG ISLAND, 1053 00:54:49,570 --> 00:54:53,489 WRITING TO YOU AT COLUMBUS, GEORGIA, 1054 00:54:53,491 --> 00:54:55,824 WHEN YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF PARATROOPER TRAINING. 1055 00:55:00,998 --> 00:55:02,131 [ SIGHS ] 1056 00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:05,434 [ Choked ] "MY DARLING JEFF. 1057 00:55:10,474 --> 00:55:13,609 I WANTED TO THANK YOU. 1058 00:55:13,611 --> 00:55:17,713 YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN MAKE ME HAPPY AND FULL OF LOVE. 1059 00:55:17,715 --> 00:55:22,101 IN CASE YOU'RE GETTING READY TO JUMP OUT OF AN AIRPLANE 1060 00:55:22,103 --> 00:55:23,452 AND NEED A LITTLE --" [Voice breaks] 1061 00:55:23,454 --> 00:55:26,722 "AND NEED A LITTLE MATERIAL FOR PLEASANT DAYDREAMS, 1062 00:55:26,724 --> 00:55:28,590 [Sobs] HERE ARE A FEW OF MY FAVORITES. 1063 00:55:30,261 --> 00:55:31,794 [ SNIFFS ] 1064 00:55:31,796 --> 00:55:34,663 THE NIGHT WE CAME HOME FROM PAUL AND CATHY'S 1065 00:55:34,665 --> 00:55:36,532 AND HAD SOMETHING TO EAT IN THE CITY. 1066 00:55:38,436 --> 00:55:40,936 NEW YEAR'S EVE THIS YEAR. 1067 00:55:44,675 --> 00:55:49,578 AND THE FIRST TIME YOU CAME TO SKIDMORE 1068 00:55:49,580 --> 00:55:52,014 AND OUR PICNIC IN THE WOODS. 1069 00:55:54,518 --> 00:55:56,118 FOUR KISSES, COLETTE." 1070 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,187 [ SOBBING ] 1071 00:55:58,189 --> 00:55:59,355 FAKER. 1072 00:55:59,357 --> 00:56:02,107 [ MURMURING ] QUIET IN THE COURT! 1073 00:56:02,109 --> 00:56:03,976 SILENCE! [ BANGING GAVEL ] 1074 00:56:03,978 --> 00:56:06,495 SILENCE IN THE COURT! 1075 00:56:14,271 --> 00:56:17,306 IS THIS THE PAJAMA TOP YOU WORE TO BED THAT NIGHT? 1076 00:56:17,308 --> 00:56:19,808 I GUESS. IF YOU SAY SO. 1077 00:56:25,299 --> 00:56:29,385 HOW DID THESE HOLES GET IN THIS PAJAMA TOP? 1078 00:56:31,889 --> 00:56:33,205 [ SIGHS ] I ASSUME WHEN I WAS BEING ATTACKED 1079 00:56:33,207 --> 00:56:36,191 AND HELD IT UP TO DEFEND MYSELF. 1080 00:56:36,193 --> 00:56:39,094 AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IF THE JURY SHOULD FIND 1081 00:56:39,096 --> 00:56:41,680 THAT THERE WERE NO BLUE FIBERS FROM THIS PAJAMA TOP 1082 00:56:41,682 --> 00:56:45,451 IN THE LIVING ROOM WHERE YOU SAY YOU WERE ATTACKED? 1083 00:56:45,453 --> 00:56:47,536 I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO THAT. 1084 00:56:56,213 --> 00:57:00,582 SUPPOSE THE JURY SHOULD FIND THE FIBERS FROM THAT TOP 1085 00:57:00,584 --> 00:57:02,851 WERE FOUND IN KIMBERLY'S ROOM. 1086 00:57:02,853 --> 00:57:05,254 ALTHOUGH, ACCORDING TO YOUR STORY, 1087 00:57:05,256 --> 00:57:06,421 YOU SAY YOU HAD REMOVED IT 1088 00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:07,306 BY THE TIME YOU WENT IN THERE. 1089 00:57:07,308 --> 00:57:11,026 ANY EXPLANATION FOR THAT? NO. 1090 00:57:11,028 --> 00:57:14,530 AND FIBERS FROM THAT TOP WERE FOUND NEXT 1091 00:57:14,532 --> 00:57:17,533 TO THE HEADBOARD OF YOUR BED UNDER THE WORD "PIG." 1092 00:57:17,535 --> 00:57:19,401 WHY WOULD THAT BE? I HAVE NO IDEA! 1093 00:57:19,403 --> 00:57:22,538 DR. MacDONALD, SUPPOSE THE JURY 1094 00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:25,907 SHOULD FIND THE EVIDENCE THAT COLETTE MacDONALD, 1095 00:57:25,909 --> 00:57:32,548 FOUR MONTHS PREGNANT, WAS BEATEN, STABBED 37 TIMES. 1096 00:57:32,550 --> 00:57:35,818 THAT KIMBERLY WAS BEATEN, STABBED NINE TIMES. 1097 00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:39,371 AND THAT 2-YEAR-OLD KRISTEN WAS STABBED 32 TIMES. 1098 00:57:39,373 --> 00:57:41,857 AND SUPPOSE, SIR, THE JURY FURTHER FINDS 1099 00:57:41,859 --> 00:57:44,493 THAT THE INJURIES THAT YOU SUSTAINED 1100 00:57:44,495 --> 00:57:46,979 WERE NOT CONSISTENT IN DEGREE OF SERIOUSNESS 1101 00:57:46,981 --> 00:57:49,731 AND THAT YOU ARE, QUITE OBVIOUSLY, STILL ALIVE? 1102 00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:50,883 ANY EXPLANATION FOR THAT? 1103 00:57:50,885 --> 00:57:53,101 OBJECTION. ARGUMENTATIVE. 1104 00:57:53,103 --> 00:57:55,504 SUSTAINED. 1105 00:57:57,708 --> 00:58:00,709 YOUR HONOR, THAT CONCLUDES THE GOVERNMENT'S CROSS. 1106 00:58:07,501 --> 00:58:17,192 d OOH, OOH, OOH d 1107 00:58:20,464 --> 00:58:28,187 d OOH, OOH, OOH d 1108 00:58:32,776 --> 00:58:34,977 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, 1109 00:58:34,979 --> 00:58:40,415 SUPPOSE THAT ONE NIGHT, RAISE YOUR HAND IN ANGER, 1110 00:58:40,417 --> 00:58:42,784 AND BEFORE YOU CAN STOP IT, 1111 00:58:42,786 --> 00:58:45,087 YOU DO SOMETHING THAT IS IRRETRIEVABLE. 1112 00:58:47,091 --> 00:58:53,729 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AUTOPSY PHOTOS OF THOSE LITTLE CHILDREN 1113 00:58:53,731 --> 00:58:57,666 AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO CAUSE SOMEONE 1114 00:58:57,668 --> 00:58:59,635 TO RAISE A KNIFE 1115 00:58:59,637 --> 00:59:05,207 AND DESTROY THEM, IT CAN'T BE TRUE. 1116 00:59:05,209 --> 00:59:08,577 WE SUGGEST TO YOU THE FOLLOWING. 1117 00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:12,447 THAT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHAT WE DO NOT KNOW 1118 00:59:12,449 --> 00:59:16,401 STARTED BETWEEN JEFF AND COLETTE IN THE MASTER BEDROOM. 1119 00:59:16,403 --> 00:59:20,772 THE MacDONALDS WERE A YOUNG, VIBRANT FAMILY 1120 00:59:20,774 --> 00:59:22,257 ABOUT TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD. 1121 00:59:22,259 --> 00:59:24,743 WHY WOULD JEFFREY THROW THAT ALL AWAY? 1122 00:59:24,745 --> 00:59:28,597 Blackburn: THE EVIDENCE ALSO SHOWS THAT KIMBERLY WAS STRUCK, 1123 00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,116 PERHAPS BY ACCIDENT. 1124 00:59:31,118 --> 00:59:34,319 WE CONTEND THAT DR. MacDONALD BLUDGEONED AND STABBED 1125 00:59:34,321 --> 00:59:37,489 COLETTE TO DEATH IN KRISTEN'S ROOM 1126 00:59:37,491 --> 00:59:39,575 AND THEN ALSO KILLED KRISTEN. 1127 00:59:39,577 --> 00:59:44,045 IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MOTIVE. 1128 00:59:44,047 --> 00:59:45,681 Blackburn: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE CAN'T TELL YOU 1129 00:59:45,683 --> 00:59:49,384 WHY JEFFREY MacDONALD KILLED HIS PREGNANT WIFE AND CHILDREN. 1130 00:59:49,386 --> 00:59:52,354 BUT WE HAVE PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT 1131 00:59:52,356 --> 00:59:55,207 THAT HE DID KILL THEM. 1132 00:59:55,209 --> 00:59:59,061 AND THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. 1133 00:59:59,063 --> 01:00:01,613 WHY? 1134 01:00:01,615 --> 01:00:03,732 IT MAY NEVER BE KNOWN. 1135 01:00:03,734 --> 01:00:08,720 JEFFREY MacDONALD NEEDS PEACE. 1136 01:00:08,722 --> 01:00:12,941 AND YOU, AS A JURY, CAN GRANT HIM THAT PEACE. 1137 01:00:12,943 --> 01:00:17,679 [ CLOCK TICKING ] 1138 01:00:17,681 --> 01:00:20,482 [ SOMBER MUSIC PLAYS ] 1139 01:00:20,484 --> 01:00:30,442 dd 1140 01:00:30,444 --> 01:00:40,469 dd 1141 01:00:40,471 --> 01:00:41,937 dd 1142 01:00:41,939 --> 01:00:43,105 [ DOOR OPENS ] THEY'RE BACK. 1143 01:00:43,107 --> 01:00:46,842 THEY'VE REACHED A VERDICT. 1144 01:00:46,844 --> 01:00:48,377 [ DOOR OPENS ] 1145 01:00:59,523 --> 01:01:04,526 [ DOOR SHUTS ] 1146 01:01:04,528 --> 01:01:08,480 MR. FOREMAN. 1147 01:01:08,482 --> 01:01:10,599 HAS THE JURY REACHED A VERDICT? 1148 01:01:10,601 --> 01:01:13,135 WE HAVE, YOUR HONOR. 1149 01:01:26,517 --> 01:01:28,333 WOULD THE DEFENDANT PLEASE RISE? 1150 01:01:34,708 --> 01:01:38,143 MR. FOREMAN, HOW DO YOU FIND? 1151 01:01:38,145 --> 01:01:40,245 WE, THE JURY, FIND THE DEFENDANT, 1152 01:01:40,247 --> 01:01:43,732 DR. JEFFREY MacDONALD, GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS. 1153 01:01:43,734 --> 01:01:49,588 [ BANGS TABLE ] [ MURMURING ] 1154 01:01:49,590 --> 01:01:51,990 [ BANGS GAVEL ] QUIET IN THE COURT. 1155 01:01:55,713 --> 01:01:58,363 DOES THE DEFENDANT WISH TO MAKE A STATEMENT AT THIS TIME? 1156 01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:03,485 SIR, I AM NOT GUILTY. 1157 01:02:03,487 --> 01:02:06,388 I DON'T THINK THE COURT HAS HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE. 1158 01:02:18,202 --> 01:02:20,936 [ CUFFS CLINK ] 1159 01:02:26,860 --> 01:02:30,028 [ SOBS ] 1160 01:02:39,423 --> 01:02:41,957 [ DOOR OPENS, CLOSES ] 1161 01:02:41,959 --> 01:02:46,228 dd 1162 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:49,247 [ BABY COOING ] 1163 01:02:49,249 --> 01:02:59,174 dd 1164 01:02:59,176 --> 01:03:06,114 dd 1165 01:03:06,116 --> 01:03:09,184 JOE. 1166 01:03:09,186 --> 01:03:10,952 [ Quietly ] I LOVE YOU. 1167 01:03:23,534 --> 01:03:26,802 Blackburn: We have proven beyond a reasonable doubt 1168 01:03:26,804 --> 01:03:27,936 that he did kill him. 1169 01:03:27,938 --> 01:03:29,838 [ SIGHS ] 1170 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,609 Why? It may never be known. 1171 01:03:34,611 --> 01:03:40,582 dd 1172 01:03:40,584 --> 01:03:42,551 [ PAPER RUSTLES ] 1173 01:03:46,056 --> 01:03:49,257 [ PICKS UP RECEIVER, DIALS ROTARY PHONE ] 1174 01:03:52,546 --> 01:03:53,745 THANK YOU. 1175 01:03:53,747 --> 01:03:57,482 IT'S INCREDIBLY GENEROUS OF YOU GUYS TO HAVE ME. 1176 01:03:57,484 --> 01:03:59,184 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 1177 01:03:59,186 --> 01:04:01,252 IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE, 1178 01:04:01,254 --> 01:04:03,271 YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. 1179 01:04:03,273 --> 01:04:06,825 NOT JUST WHAT JEFF WANTS YOU TO THINK. 1180 01:04:06,827 --> 01:04:10,829 YOU KNOW, FROM THE SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I SPENT WITH JEFF, 1181 01:04:10,831 --> 01:04:11,963 I FELT LIKE I KNEW HIM. 1182 01:04:11,965 --> 01:04:14,850 I THOUGHT I KNEW HIM INSIDE OUT. 1183 01:04:14,852 --> 01:04:19,738 BUT I REALIZED ALMOST EVERYTHING JEFFREY MacDONALD SAYS 1184 01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:21,540 OR DOES IS A LIE. 1185 01:04:23,410 --> 01:04:26,127 HERE. 1186 01:04:26,129 --> 01:04:28,046 THIS IS WHERE JEFF SCREWED HIMSELF. 1187 01:04:28,048 --> 01:04:30,015 THE ARTICLE 32 HEARINGS. 1188 01:04:30,017 --> 01:04:32,050 IT WAS A CLOSED PROCEEDING. 1189 01:04:32,052 --> 01:04:35,320 I WASN'T ALLOWED TO STAY AFTER I GAVE MY TESTIMONY. 1190 01:04:35,322 --> 01:04:37,922 BUT THEN I GOT A COPY OF THE TRANSCRIPT, 1191 01:04:37,924 --> 01:04:40,208 AND I READ EVERY PAGE. 1192 01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:44,863 AND I FOUND ALMOST 100 THINGS THAT JEFF STATED AS A FACT 1193 01:04:44,865 --> 01:04:49,551 THAT I PERSONALLY KNEW NOT TO BE TRUE. 1194 01:04:49,553 --> 01:04:52,003 JEFF SAID THEY DIDN'T OWN AN ICE PICK. 1195 01:04:52,005 --> 01:04:54,506 WELL, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY DID. 1196 01:04:54,508 --> 01:04:56,474 I USED IT MYSELF. 1197 01:04:56,476 --> 01:04:59,945 HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW THE NEIGHBORS TO GO TO FOR HELP. 1198 01:04:59,947 --> 01:05:02,314 WELL, COLETTE WAS GOING TO INVITE THEM 1199 01:05:02,316 --> 01:05:04,115 FOR THANKSGIVING DINNER. 1200 01:05:04,117 --> 01:05:06,685 AFTER THE ARMY DROPPED THE INVESTIGATION, 1201 01:05:06,687 --> 01:05:10,221 HE TALKED TO REPORTERS, WENT ON "THE DICK CAVETT SHOW." 1202 01:05:10,223 --> 01:05:12,023 HE TOLD US HE WAS GOING ON IT 1203 01:05:12,025 --> 01:05:16,795 TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT AND CATCH THE REAL KILLERS. 1204 01:05:16,797 --> 01:05:21,466 BUT THEN ON TV, HE JUST LAUGHED AND SMILED. 1205 01:05:21,468 --> 01:05:23,234 HE LOVED THE ATTENTION. 1206 01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:29,507 JEFF TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT HOW COLETTE LOVED HIS SURPRISES, 1207 01:05:29,509 --> 01:05:31,626 LIKE HE BOUGHT HER AN EXPENSIVE STEREO, 1208 01:05:31,628 --> 01:05:33,094 AND SHE WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 1209 01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:36,464 THAT STEREO CAUSED A HUGE FIGHT. 1210 01:05:36,466 --> 01:05:38,049 JEFF WAS ALWAYS SPENDING THEIR MONEY 1211 01:05:38,051 --> 01:05:40,352 ON EXPENSIVE THINGS HE WANTED, 1212 01:05:40,354 --> 01:05:45,357 THEN GIVING THEM TO COLETTE AS "GIFTS." 1213 01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:48,710 HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT COLETTE WAS HAPPY FOR HIM, 1214 01:05:48,712 --> 01:05:51,229 THAT HE WAS GETTING TO TRAVEL TO RUSSIA FOR A BOXING TRIP. 1215 01:05:51,231 --> 01:05:53,131 THERE WAS NO TRIP TO RUSSIA. 1216 01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:55,567 HE JUST TOLD COLETTE THAT. 1217 01:05:55,569 --> 01:05:57,702 JEFF WAS PLANNING TO GO TO NEW YORK 1218 01:05:57,704 --> 01:05:59,070 TO SEE AN EX-GIRLFRIEND. 1219 01:05:59,072 --> 01:06:01,873 HE WAS A PHILANDERER. 1220 01:06:01,875 --> 01:06:05,226 DURING THE INVESTIGATION, THE ARMY'S CID AGENTS FOUND 1221 01:06:05,228 --> 01:06:07,612 THAT HE HAD HAD SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS 1222 01:06:07,614 --> 01:06:10,799 WITH MULTIPLE WOMEN. 1223 01:06:10,801 --> 01:06:12,684 DID SHE EVER TELL YOU GUYS THAT SHE WANTED TO LEAVE HIM, 1224 01:06:12,686 --> 01:06:16,104 OR SHE WAS GOING TO LEAVE HIM? 1225 01:06:16,106 --> 01:06:18,957 NO. 1226 01:06:18,959 --> 01:06:21,326 BUT SHE WAS BECOMING MORE INDEPENDENT. 1227 01:06:21,328 --> 01:06:22,894 COLETTE WAS JUST BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT 1228 01:06:22,896 --> 01:06:25,530 HOW SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF JEFF. 1229 01:06:25,532 --> 01:06:27,649 JEFF HATED THAT. 1230 01:06:27,651 --> 01:06:28,667 RIGHT. 1231 01:06:28,669 --> 01:06:30,969 HE HATED LOOKING AFTER THE GIRLS. 1232 01:06:30,971 --> 01:06:34,239 HE HATED THAT SHE WAS STARTING TO HAVE OPINIONS OF HER OWN. 1233 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,814 [ DOG BARKING IN DISTANCE ] 1234 01:06:42,816 --> 01:06:48,787 DID JEFF REALLY SAVE COLETTE'S LIFE AFTER KRISTEN WAS BORN? 1235 01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:52,590 [ SIGHS ] THAT'S A DRAMATIC TURN OF PHRASE, BUT YES. 1236 01:06:52,592 --> 01:06:54,309 COLETTE HAD SEVERE INTERNAL BLEEDING 1237 01:06:54,311 --> 01:06:58,396 WHICH HER DOCTORS MISSED AND JEFF CAUGHT. 1238 01:06:58,398 --> 01:07:00,164 I'M NOT SAYING THAT JEFF MacDONALD 1239 01:07:00,166 --> 01:07:03,802 ISN'T A COMPETENT PHYSICIAN. 1240 01:07:03,804 --> 01:07:07,355 I'M SAYING HE'S A LIAR 1241 01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:09,424 AND THAT HE MURDERED MY DAUGHTER. 1242 01:07:13,013 --> 01:07:15,513 WHY'D HE DO IT? 1243 01:07:19,336 --> 01:07:22,854 I DON'T KNOW. 1244 01:07:22,856 --> 01:07:24,539 [ GATE CLANGS ] 1245 01:07:26,459 --> 01:07:29,961 [ KEYS JANGLING ] 1246 01:07:29,963 --> 01:07:39,687 [ DOOR SQUEAKS OPEN, SHUTS ] 1247 01:07:39,689 --> 01:07:40,822 HEY. 1248 01:07:40,824 --> 01:07:44,576 YOU LOOK OKAY. 1249 01:07:44,578 --> 01:07:47,796 YEAH, I'M OKAY. 1250 01:07:47,798 --> 01:07:49,781 IT'S UNTIL I START REMEMBERING THAT I LOST MY FAMILY, 1251 01:07:49,783 --> 01:07:54,118 AND SOMEHOW I ENDED UP IN HERE. 1252 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,370 THIS IS AN INSULT, YOU KNOW. 1253 01:07:55,372 --> 01:07:59,257 IT'S AN INSULT TO THE MEMORY OF MY TWO LITTLE GIRLS. 1254 01:07:59,259 --> 01:08:01,526 IT'S AN INSULT TO COLETTE. 1255 01:08:03,380 --> 01:08:07,565 WHICH IS WHY OUR BOOK IS SO IMPORTANT NOW. 1256 01:08:07,567 --> 01:08:10,151 I NEED TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDS. 1257 01:08:13,139 --> 01:08:14,389 LISTEN. 1258 01:08:14,391 --> 01:08:16,407 I HAVE AN IDEA. 1259 01:08:16,409 --> 01:08:18,910 I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME CASSETTE TAPES AND RECORDER. 1260 01:08:18,912 --> 01:08:20,278 I WANT TO SEND YOU SOME QUESTIONS, 1261 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,046 AND YOU RECORD YOUR ANSWERS, AND YOU MAIL 'EM BACK. 1262 01:08:22,048 --> 01:08:24,349 THAT WAY, YOU CAN TALK ALL YOU WANT. 1263 01:08:24,351 --> 01:08:26,367 THAT'S FANTASTIC, YES, AND I'VE BEEN THINKING. 1264 01:08:26,369 --> 01:08:28,686 EVERYTHING IN COURT WAS SO -- IT WAS SO ONE-SIDED, 1265 01:08:28,688 --> 01:08:30,955 AND I HAD ALL THESE RECORDS, THESE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS 1266 01:08:30,957 --> 01:08:33,792 THAT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING, READ EVERYTHING, 1267 01:08:33,794 --> 01:08:37,078 IT'LL PROVE THAT WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING IS THE TRUTH. 1268 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,179 ALL THAT STUFF'S AT MY CONDO. 1269 01:08:38,181 --> 01:08:39,380 I CAN GET BERNIE TO GIVE YOU THE KEYS. 1270 01:08:39,382 --> 01:08:41,466 THAT'S PERFECT. 1271 01:08:41,468 --> 01:08:43,284 I WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING YOU GOT. 1272 01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:47,672 [ DOOR OPENS, SHUTS ] 1273 01:08:47,674 --> 01:08:48,973 [ LIGHT CLICKS ] 1274 01:08:48,975 --> 01:08:50,909 [ SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYS ] 1275 01:08:50,911 --> 01:09:00,635 dd 1276 01:09:00,637 --> 01:09:10,795 dd 1277 01:09:10,797 --> 01:09:20,905 dd 1278 01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:23,107 DR. SADOFF, THIS IS JOE McGINNISS. 1279 01:09:23,109 --> 01:09:25,543 I'M CALLING REGARDING YOUR SESSIONS 1280 01:09:25,545 --> 01:09:27,512 WITH DR. JEFFREY MacDONALD. 1281 01:09:27,514 --> 01:09:29,447 Dr. Sadoff: Yeah, Jeff through his lawyers said he would like it 1282 01:09:29,449 --> 01:09:30,915 if I spoke with you. 1283 01:09:30,917 --> 01:09:32,517 But I won't be able to say anything 1284 01:09:32,519 --> 01:09:35,687 That breaches doctor/patient confidentiality, unfortunately. 1285 01:09:35,689 --> 01:09:39,591 You're can only get specifics about our sessions from Jeff. 1286 01:09:39,593 --> 01:09:40,975 I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 1287 01:09:40,977 --> 01:09:43,795 I WAS HOPING THAT I COULD ASK YOU A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS. 1288 01:09:43,797 --> 01:09:45,363 Let me stop you there. 1289 01:09:45,365 --> 01:09:47,131 What I would like to say to you is that 1290 01:09:47,133 --> 01:09:48,650 if you want a better understanding 1291 01:09:48,652 --> 01:09:50,068 of Jeffrey MacDonald, 1292 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:52,837 there's a book that I strongly recommend you read. 1293 01:09:52,839 --> 01:09:55,173 It's by the last name Cleckley. 1294 01:09:55,175 --> 01:09:59,077 The name is "The Mask of Sanity." 1295 01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:02,547 I think you'll find that very, very informative. 1296 01:10:06,469 --> 01:10:09,554 THIS SAYS THAT SOMEONE WITH A PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY 1297 01:10:09,556 --> 01:10:10,955 FIRST SEEMS TOTALLY NORMAL, 1298 01:10:10,957 --> 01:10:14,092 BUT THE MORE TIME YOU SPEND WITH THEM, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE. 1299 01:10:14,094 --> 01:10:17,128 IT'S LIKE LEARNED RESPONSES. 1300 01:10:17,130 --> 01:10:19,864 THERE'S NOT A REAL HUMAN BEING INSIDE. 1301 01:10:19,866 --> 01:10:24,652 DOES THAT DESCRIBE JEFFREY MacDONALD? 1302 01:10:24,654 --> 01:10:25,753 [ SIGHS ] 1303 01:10:37,517 --> 01:10:45,489 dd 1304 01:10:45,491 --> 01:10:48,159 [ PAPERS RUSTLING ] 1305 01:10:48,161 --> 01:10:57,502 dd 1306 01:10:57,504 --> 01:11:07,312 dd 1307 01:11:07,314 --> 01:11:11,049 dd 1308 01:11:11,051 --> 01:11:13,534 ESKATROL. 1309 01:11:16,690 --> 01:11:19,090 AN AMPHETAMINE. 1310 01:11:19,092 --> 01:11:22,977 [ PHONES RINGING ] [ TYPEWRITERS CLACKING ] 1311 01:11:22,979 --> 01:11:25,396 [ KNOCKING ] 1312 01:11:25,398 --> 01:11:30,335 I HAVE TO CALL YOU RIGHT BACK. 1313 01:11:30,337 --> 01:11:31,836 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL, THANKS. 1314 01:11:31,838 --> 01:11:33,171 WHAT IS THIS? 1315 01:11:33,173 --> 01:11:35,006 THAT IS THE WHY. 1316 01:11:35,008 --> 01:11:36,874 THAT IS MY ANGLE. 1317 01:11:36,876 --> 01:11:39,210 THAT IS MY BESTSELLER. 1318 01:11:39,212 --> 01:11:40,578 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 1319 01:11:40,580 --> 01:11:41,746 WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT? 1320 01:11:41,748 --> 01:11:43,614 I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PROSECUTION FOUND HIM GUILTY 1321 01:11:43,616 --> 01:11:46,334 BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVE HOW HE DID IT. 1322 01:11:46,336 --> 01:11:47,885 RIGHT? NOT WHY. 1323 01:11:47,887 --> 01:11:49,687 THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WHY. 1324 01:11:49,689 --> 01:11:52,540 AND THIS, I BELIEVE, IS THE WHY. 1325 01:11:52,542 --> 01:11:53,841 AND YOU FIGURED OUT THE WHY. 1326 01:11:53,843 --> 01:11:54,976 MM-HMM. 1327 01:11:54,978 --> 01:11:56,978 EVEN THOUGH AN ENTIRE TEAM OF PROSECUTORS 1328 01:11:56,980 --> 01:11:59,197 WASN'T ABLE TO DO THAT. 1329 01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:00,498 HOW? 1330 01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:02,333 BECAUSE JEFFREY MacDONALD GRANTED ME ACCESS TO HIS CONDO, 1331 01:12:02,335 --> 01:12:04,068 AND I READ EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT HE HAD, 1332 01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:06,421 AND THERE WAS A TON OF INFORMATION IN THERE 1333 01:12:06,423 --> 01:12:08,106 THAT NEVER MADE IT TO TRIAL. 1334 01:12:08,108 --> 01:12:09,991 LIKE WHAT? LIKE WHAT? 1335 01:12:09,993 --> 01:12:11,075 SOME OF MY FAVORITES. 1336 01:12:11,077 --> 01:12:12,810 I READ ALL THE PSYCH EVALUATIONS. 1337 01:12:12,812 --> 01:12:14,412 OKAY? HERE'S SOME HIGHLIGHTS. 1338 01:12:14,414 --> 01:12:15,947 HE HAD A LACK OF CONSCIENCE. 1339 01:12:15,949 --> 01:12:17,598 HE HAD NO SENSE OF GUILT. 1340 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,617 HE WAS SUSCEPTIBLE TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS 1341 01:12:19,619 --> 01:12:21,936 WHEN HE THOUGHT HIS AUTHORITY WAS CHALLENGED, 1342 01:12:21,938 --> 01:12:26,057 PARTICULARLY BY SOMEONE WHO IS NOT HIS SUPERIOR, LIKE COLETTE. 1343 01:12:26,059 --> 01:12:29,227 ONE SHRINK EVEN CALLED HIM A PSYCHOPATH IN HIS EVALUATION. 1344 01:12:29,229 --> 01:12:31,295 AND SO WHY WERE THESE EVALUATIONS 1345 01:12:31,297 --> 01:12:32,830 NOT INTRODUCED AT HIS TRIAL? 1346 01:12:32,832 --> 01:12:34,732 BECAUSE JUDGE DUPREE WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY OF IT IN. 1347 01:12:34,734 --> 01:12:36,601 HE DIDN'T WANT A WAR OF SHRINKS. 1348 01:12:36,603 --> 01:12:38,653 AND I THINK OUR GOOD DOCTOR 1349 01:12:38,655 --> 01:12:42,006 WAS TAKING A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF SPEED. 1350 01:12:42,008 --> 01:12:44,409 WHEN JEFF MacDONALD FINDS OUT THAT HE IS THE CHIEF SUSPECT, 1351 01:12:44,411 --> 01:12:46,728 HE IS ADVISED TO WRITE A DETAILED ACCOUNT 1352 01:12:46,730 --> 01:12:48,546 OF THE EVENTS OF THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER. 1353 01:12:48,548 --> 01:12:52,817 AND THE FIRST THING HE MENTIONS IS A DRUG CALLED ESKATROL. 1354 01:12:52,819 --> 01:12:54,085 THE DIET PILL. YEP, SPEED. 1355 01:12:54,087 --> 01:12:56,954 HE SAID HE WAS TAKING THREE TO FIVE PILLS TO CUT WEIGHT 1356 01:12:56,956 --> 01:12:58,740 FOR SOME BOXING MATCH IN RUSSIA 1357 01:12:58,742 --> 01:13:01,659 WHICH, BY THE WAY, WAS A COMPLETE LIE. 1358 01:13:01,661 --> 01:13:02,960 NOW, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. 1359 01:13:02,962 --> 01:13:07,548 WHY DO YOU THINK HE WROTE "ESKATROL" ON HIS FIRST ACCOUNT? 1360 01:13:07,550 --> 01:13:12,019 HE IS A DOCTOR, AND HE KNEW THEY'D DO A TOX SCREEN ON HIM 1361 01:13:12,021 --> 01:13:13,121 WHEN HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. 1362 01:13:13,123 --> 01:13:14,538 AND THEY DID. AND GUESS WHAT? 1363 01:13:14,540 --> 01:13:16,758 NOTHING SHOWED UP BECAUSE IN 1970, 1364 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,743 IT WASN'T CONSIDERED A DANGEROUS DRUG. 1365 01:13:18,745 --> 01:13:20,461 BUT ESKATROL'S ESPECIALLY BAD. 1366 01:13:20,463 --> 01:13:23,965 IN LARGE DOSES, CARRIES SIDE EFFECTS KNOWN AS 1367 01:13:23,967 --> 01:13:25,382 MARKED INSOMNIA, 1368 01:13:25,384 --> 01:13:29,070 TENSENESS, IRRITABILITY, HYPERACTIVITY, PANIC STATES, 1369 01:13:29,072 --> 01:13:33,808 AND THE MOST SEVERE -- PSYCHOSIS. 1370 01:13:33,810 --> 01:13:36,611 DR. JEFFREY MacDONALD, GREEN BERET, 1371 01:13:36,613 --> 01:13:40,581 IVY LEAGUE, FAMILY MAN, PILLAR OF HIS COMMUNITY, 1372 01:13:40,583 --> 01:13:44,836 AND POTENTIAL PSYCHOPATH I THINK HAD A PSYCHOTIC BREAK. 1373 01:13:44,838 --> 01:13:47,688 YOU GOTTA BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND TAKE ME STEP BY STEP. 1374 01:13:47,690 --> 01:13:49,440 JUST START AT THE BEGINNING. 1375 01:13:49,442 --> 01:13:51,426 [ SIGHS ] 1376 01:13:51,428 --> 01:13:54,962 OKAY. 1377 01:13:54,964 --> 01:13:56,831 ON THE NIGHT OF THE MURDERS, JEFFREY MacDONALD 1378 01:13:56,833 --> 01:13:59,333 HAD JUST WORKED A 24-HOUR SHIFT AT THE E.R. 1379 01:13:59,335 --> 01:14:01,385 HOPPED UP ON AMPHETAMINES. 1380 01:14:01,387 --> 01:14:04,755 COLETTE WAS AWAY AT NIGHT CLASS, AND HE WAS LEFT WITH THE GIRLS. 1381 01:14:04,757 --> 01:14:06,791 WHEN SHE GOT HOME, THEY GOT INTO A FIGHT 1382 01:14:06,793 --> 01:14:08,693 FOR REASONS WE DON'T KNOW. 1383 01:14:08,695 --> 01:14:11,746 MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE KIMBERLY WET TO BED. 1384 01:14:11,748 --> 01:14:13,331 SHE'S FIVE. THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL! 1385 01:14:13,333 --> 01:14:16,801 DON'T EVER TELL ME WHAT'S NORMAL AND WHAT'S NOT NORMAL. 1386 01:14:16,803 --> 01:14:17,969 I'M A DOCTOR. 1387 01:14:17,971 --> 01:14:19,170 COLETTE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? 1388 01:14:19,172 --> 01:14:20,371 DO YOU UNDERSTAND? 1389 01:14:20,373 --> 01:14:21,405 DO YOU UNDERSTAND? 1390 01:14:21,407 --> 01:14:22,507 I AM IN CHARGE! 1391 01:14:22,509 --> 01:14:24,275 YOU DON'T TELL ME ANYTHING! 1392 01:14:24,277 --> 01:14:26,444 PLEASE, JEFFREY! 1393 01:14:26,446 --> 01:14:28,012 YOU'RE PATHETIC! 1394 01:14:28,014 --> 01:14:29,447 [ GRUNTS ] 1395 01:14:29,449 --> 01:14:31,315 [ COUGHS, GASPS ] 1396 01:14:31,317 --> 01:14:34,068 Girl: DADDY! DADDY! 1397 01:14:38,758 --> 01:14:40,758 GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE, JEFFREY! 1398 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,927 [ GRUNTS ] 1399 01:14:42,929 --> 01:14:44,195 [ SCREAMS ] 1400 01:14:44,197 --> 01:14:46,164 DADDY, DADDY! DADDY, STOP IT! 1401 01:14:46,166 --> 01:14:51,169 [ GRUNTS ] [ SCREECHES ] NO! 1402 01:14:51,171 --> 01:14:55,506 [ PANTING ] 1403 01:14:55,508 --> 01:14:57,909 [ SCREAMS ] [ GRUNTING ] AHH! 1404 01:14:57,911 --> 01:14:59,010 [ GRUNTING ] 1405 01:14:59,012 --> 01:15:02,046 [ PANTING ] 1406 01:15:02,048 --> 01:15:04,248 [ GRUNTING ] [ BLOWS LANDING ] 1407 01:15:08,955 --> 01:15:13,858 [ PANTING ] 1408 01:15:15,578 --> 01:15:24,502 dd 1409 01:15:24,504 --> 01:15:33,411 dd 1410 01:15:33,413 --> 01:15:37,348 Joe: JEFF HAD LOST CONTROL, AND NOW HE HAD TO REGAIN IT. 1411 01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:47,341 dd 1412 01:15:47,343 --> 01:15:56,033 dd 1413 01:15:56,035 --> 01:16:05,993 dd 1414 01:16:05,995 --> 01:16:07,662 dd 1415 01:16:07,664 --> 01:16:10,114 Girl: MAMA? 1416 01:16:19,058 --> 01:16:21,058 DADA? 1417 01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:23,744 [ PANTING ] 1418 01:16:23,746 --> 01:16:33,771 dd 1419 01:16:33,773 --> 01:16:43,748 dd 1420 01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:49,570 dd 1421 01:16:49,572 --> 01:16:54,158 [ GASPING ] 1422 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,294 [ HEAD THUDS ] 1423 01:16:56,296 --> 01:16:59,096 [ PANTING ] 1424 01:16:59,098 --> 01:17:02,500 MAYBE COLETTE TRIED TO SAVE HER YOUNGEST CHILD. 1425 01:17:02,502 --> 01:17:04,135 [ SOBS ] 1426 01:17:04,137 --> 01:17:07,038 BUT ALL OF THEM MET WITH THE SAME FATE. 1427 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,075 [ BLOWS LANDING ] [ GRUNTING ] 1428 01:17:11,077 --> 01:17:15,179 [ Screaming ] JEFF, DON'T! 1429 01:17:15,181 --> 01:17:21,702 [ WOOD CLATTERS ] 1430 01:17:21,704 --> 01:17:24,805 JEFF HAD TO COME UP WITH A STORY FOR WHAT HAD HAPPENED. 1431 01:17:28,695 --> 01:17:30,194 HE HAD READ IN THE "ESQUIRE" MAGAZINE 1432 01:17:30,196 --> 01:17:32,096 ABOUT THE MANSON MURDERS. 1433 01:17:32,098 --> 01:17:35,666 THAT WOULD BE HIS STORY. 1434 01:17:35,668 --> 01:17:37,802 THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED. 1435 01:17:37,804 --> 01:17:41,505 dd 1436 01:17:41,507 --> 01:17:43,374 TO COVER UP WHAT HE HAD DONE. 1437 01:17:43,376 --> 01:17:52,616 dd 1438 01:17:52,618 --> 01:18:01,809 dd 1439 01:18:01,811 --> 01:18:04,528 BUT THERE HAD TO BE SOMETHING ELSE. 1440 01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:08,532 TO SELL HIS STORY, THE MURDERS HAD TO BE BARBARIC. 1441 01:18:08,534 --> 01:18:10,718 BEYOND ANYTHING IMAGINABLE. 1442 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,636 [ KNIVES CLATTER ] 1443 01:18:12,638 --> 01:18:22,596 dd 1444 01:18:22,598 --> 01:18:32,573 dd 1445 01:18:32,575 --> 01:18:35,859 dd 1446 01:18:35,861 --> 01:18:38,696 [ STABBING SOUNDS ] 1447 01:18:44,604 --> 01:18:47,838 [ STABBING SOUNDS ] 1448 01:18:54,947 --> 01:18:57,998 [ SQUEAKING ] 1449 01:18:59,285 --> 01:19:05,923 dd 1450 01:19:05,925 --> 01:19:08,175 [ EXHALES DEEPLY ] 1451 01:19:08,177 --> 01:19:15,299 dd 1452 01:19:15,301 --> 01:19:23,307 dd 1453 01:19:23,309 --> 01:19:28,729 [ STABBING SOUNDS ] 1454 01:19:28,731 --> 01:19:30,614 [ PANTING ] 1455 01:19:30,616 --> 01:19:34,952 dd 1456 01:19:34,954 --> 01:19:37,621 THE ONE FINAL PIECE IN THE PUZZLE 1457 01:19:37,623 --> 01:19:41,559 WAS THAT HE HAD TO LOOK LIKE A VICTIM, TOO. 1458 01:19:41,561 --> 01:19:47,331 [ BREATHING HEAVILY ] 1459 01:19:47,333 --> 01:19:53,637 dd 1460 01:19:53,639 --> 01:20:00,110 dd 1461 01:20:00,112 --> 01:20:05,749 [ GRUNTS ] AAH! 1462 01:20:05,751 --> 01:20:08,552 [ PANTING ] 1463 01:20:08,554 --> 01:20:12,189 [ Ragged ] I NEED AN AMBULANCE TO 544 CASTLE DRIVE. 1464 01:20:12,191 --> 01:20:13,941 Woman; is that on or off Coast? 1465 01:20:13,943 --> 01:20:17,161 [ PHONE CLATTERS ] 1466 01:20:19,115 --> 01:20:23,918 dd 1467 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,787 [ LIGHT SWITCH CLICKS ] 1468 01:20:26,789 --> 01:20:36,797 dd 1469 01:20:36,799 --> 01:20:46,123 dd 1470 01:20:46,125 --> 01:20:55,866 dd 1471 01:20:55,868 --> 01:21:00,871 IF KRISTEN WAS ASLEEP AND HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING, 1472 01:21:00,873 --> 01:21:02,673 WHY DID HE KILL HER, TOO? 1473 01:21:05,344 --> 01:21:06,777 [ SIGHS ] 1474 01:21:06,779 --> 01:21:10,214 MURTAGH HAD A THEORY ABOUT THAT. 1475 01:21:10,216 --> 01:21:12,783 HE THOUGHT THAT JEFF MacDONALD DECIDED TO KILL KRISTEN 1476 01:21:12,785 --> 01:21:15,669 BECAUSE HE HAD NO REASON TO. 1477 01:21:15,671 --> 01:21:19,139 SHE HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING, SO HE WENT ALL-IN. 1478 01:21:19,141 --> 01:21:23,928 IT WAS THE ONE THING NO JURY WOULD BELIEVE A FATHER COULD DO. 1479 01:21:31,737 --> 01:21:34,154 DOES MacDONALD KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE THAT? 1480 01:21:37,076 --> 01:21:39,610 HE DOESN'T NEED TO. 1481 01:21:39,612 --> 01:21:43,614 [ TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACKING ] 1482 01:21:51,374 --> 01:21:53,490 [ BELL DINGS ] 1483 01:21:53,492 --> 01:21:54,825 [ RETURN SLIDES ] 1484 01:21:54,827 --> 01:21:56,010 [ TYPING CONTINUES ] 1485 01:21:56,012 --> 01:22:02,182 dd 1486 01:22:02,184 --> 01:22:08,889 [ CLOCK TICKING ] 1487 01:22:08,891 --> 01:22:10,774 Reporter: REPORTER JOE McGINNISS SPENT THREE YEARS 1488 01:22:10,776 --> 01:22:12,610 INVESTIGATING JEFFREY MacDONALD, 1489 01:22:12,612 --> 01:22:14,812 WHO GRANTED HIM TOTAL ACCESS TO HIS FAMILY, 1490 01:22:14,814 --> 01:22:17,481 HIS FRIENDS, ALL HIS RECORDS, 1491 01:22:17,483 --> 01:22:20,284 SO THAT McGINNISS MIGHT WRITE THE DEFINITIVE BOOK ABOUT HIM. 1492 01:22:20,286 --> 01:22:22,086 IT IS CALLED "FATAL VISION." 1493 01:22:24,991 --> 01:22:29,410 ALL I'M SAYING THAT ON THE BASIS OF ATTENDING THE TRIAL EVERY DAY 1494 01:22:29,412 --> 01:22:33,047 AND SPENDING THREE YEARS OF FULL-TIME RESEARCH AFTERWARDS, 1495 01:22:33,049 --> 01:22:35,299 THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THIS GENTLE, CARING, 1496 01:22:35,301 --> 01:22:38,969 GIVING MAN ALSO BEAT AND STABBED 1497 01:22:38,971 --> 01:22:40,871 TO DEATH HIS PREGNANT WIFE 1498 01:22:40,873 --> 01:22:43,140 AND HIS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS. 1499 01:22:43,142 --> 01:22:46,010 I LOVE MY WIFE AND MY CHILDREN VERY MUCH. 1500 01:22:46,012 --> 01:22:48,812 I NEVER PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED ANYONE IN MY LIFE, 1501 01:22:48,814 --> 01:22:52,683 AND CERTAINLY NOT MY WIFE AND MY TWO CHILDREN. 1502 01:22:55,683 --> 01:22:59,683 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 104506

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