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I get it home and I turn it up it's like "Khhhhh." 15 00:00:37,133 --> 00:00:38,033 -"Ehrrrrr!" 16 00:00:38,133 --> 00:00:39,573 -"Euhhhhhrrrrr!" 17 00:00:39,666 --> 00:00:41,196 ♪♪ 18 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:45,000 -Suddenly, you didn't need a horn section anymore. 19 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,570 -I spent most of the mid-'60s 20 00:00:47,666 --> 00:00:50,466 not hearing anything I ever sang. 21 00:00:50,566 --> 00:00:53,326 -Electricity didn't just turn up the volume, 22 00:00:53,433 --> 00:00:55,773 it opened up a world of new sounds. 23 00:00:55,866 --> 00:00:58,796 -These albums are kind of sonic fantasies 24 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:00,170 that could never actually exist in real life. 25 00:01:00,266 --> 00:01:02,696 -♪ I could never drown in 26 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,170 -I fell in love with the synthesizer. 27 00:01:05,266 --> 00:01:06,566 -Is this how you make up all these songs? 28 00:01:06,666 --> 00:01:07,926 With all these -- 29 00:01:08,033 --> 00:01:09,303 -We let the machines make up the songs. 30 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,830 ♪♪ 31 00:01:11,933 --> 00:01:15,733 -You cannot put me anywhere near a synth. 32 00:01:15,833 --> 00:01:17,273 I don't care if it was old-school synth, 33 00:01:17,366 --> 00:01:19,566 you know it's still a manipulated sound. 34 00:01:19,666 --> 00:01:21,166 -♪ They wanna get my 35 00:01:21,266 --> 00:01:23,526 ♪ Gold on the ceiling 36 00:01:23,633 --> 00:01:26,273 -It was like they were working on Frankenstein. 37 00:01:26,366 --> 00:01:28,266 All day, all night. 38 00:01:28,366 --> 00:01:30,996 -This is the story of how one epic innovation 39 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,270 triggered a musical chain reaction 40 00:01:33,366 --> 00:01:35,896 that's still throwing off sparks today. 41 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,030 ♪♪ 42 00:01:39,133 --> 00:01:41,373 -It's amazing technology already happening, 43 00:01:41,466 --> 00:01:44,096 which expands what can be created, 44 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,000 'cause someone will use one of those things, 45 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:48,500 and by accident, stumble into a brand new sound 46 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,730 that no one's ever heard before. 47 00:01:49,833 --> 00:01:53,373 ♪♪ 48 00:01:56,433 --> 00:01:58,573 -Just think of what would happen to the music business 49 00:01:58,666 --> 00:02:01,126 if we pulled the plug on all the electricity. 50 00:02:07,733 --> 00:02:09,873 ♪♪ 51 00:02:09,966 --> 00:02:12,126 -Okay, then. Okay. 52 00:02:12,233 --> 00:02:15,433 -It'll be an F for you. 53 00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:17,173 -Here we go. 54 00:02:17,266 --> 00:02:19,726 Just one more time. 55 00:02:19,833 --> 00:02:21,433 -Right after I say, "Are you sure?" 56 00:02:21,533 --> 00:02:22,803 Da da da -- yeah. 57 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:24,030 -Oh. 58 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,200 -Hal, here's how I want to do it. Takes like this. 59 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:30,330 -All right, it's fun time. Fun time. 60 00:02:30,433 --> 00:02:31,773 -Here we go. 61 00:02:31,866 --> 00:02:35,666 -Oh, really? -17, take one. 62 00:02:35,766 --> 00:02:37,696 -This will be the keeper. -[Chuckle] 63 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,370 ♪♪ 64 00:02:50,833 --> 00:02:52,303 [ The Who's "My Generation" plays ] 65 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,000 [ The Who's "My Generation" plays ] 66 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:58,400 -♪ People try to put us down 67 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:00,800 ♪ Talkin' 'bout my generation 68 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:04,370 -Well, amplification in The Who, uh, is a very long journey. 69 00:03:04,466 --> 00:03:06,466 -♪ Things they do look awful cold ♪ 70 00:03:06,566 --> 00:03:10,396 -I mean, I remember when The Who first were using Beatle 100s. 71 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:12,070 -Those are the first big amps we ever saw; 72 00:03:12,166 --> 00:03:13,566 they're called Super Beatles. 73 00:03:13,666 --> 00:03:16,596 -And we covered the speaker fronts with Union Jacks. 74 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:20,100 And it was such a fantastic celebration 75 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,900 of, uh, loud music, loud, loud, loud. 76 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,870 -Incredibly loud. Incredibly loud. 77 00:03:25,966 --> 00:03:27,926 -You didn't feel like you were gonna be sick; 78 00:03:28,033 --> 00:03:30,533 you felt like you were gonna float up to heaven. 79 00:03:30,633 --> 00:03:32,073 -In the area of London we lived, 80 00:03:32,166 --> 00:03:34,026 there was a shop called Jim Marshall's, 81 00:03:34,133 --> 00:03:36,403 and he started making amplifiers, and he says, 82 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:37,830 "Well, I've done this, and I've done that. 83 00:03:37,933 --> 00:03:39,273 Try this one out." 84 00:03:39,366 --> 00:03:41,196 And they gradually got bigger and bigger. 85 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:42,870 -It got bigger and bigger and bigger, 86 00:03:42,966 --> 00:03:45,326 and it was like, kind of like the, uh, arms race 87 00:03:45,433 --> 00:03:47,503 against other bands we played with. 88 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,100 [ Guitar solo ] 89 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,000 If Jerry had two Fenders, Jorma wanted two. 90 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:58,830 Jorma went up to four. Jerry went up four, uh, Fenders. 91 00:03:58,933 --> 00:04:02,603 ♪♪ 92 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:05,630 -Everything got louder, and the drummer had to get louder, too. 93 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:07,733 -And we're playing 'em harder and harder and harder. 94 00:04:07,833 --> 00:04:09,333 Too hard. 95 00:04:09,433 --> 00:04:11,833 Bob and Jerry, they were ripping their cords out, 96 00:04:11,933 --> 00:04:13,973 trying to sing over the din. 97 00:04:14,066 --> 00:04:17,496 -♪ We'll be fighting in the streets ♪ 98 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,270 -And I think I spent most of the '60s 99 00:04:20,366 --> 00:04:22,766 not hearing anything I ever sang. 100 00:04:22,866 --> 00:04:27,966 It made me develop a pair of lungs that I've still got today. 101 00:04:28,066 --> 00:04:30,666 -♪ And the men who spurred us on ♪ 102 00:04:30,766 --> 00:04:32,726 -In 1976, The Who were recognized 103 00:04:32,833 --> 00:04:34,073 as the loudest band in the world. 104 00:04:34,166 --> 00:04:36,226 125 decibels. 105 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:39,303 -♪ Yea-ea-ea-ea-ea-ea-h! 106 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,330 ♪♪ 107 00:04:41,433 --> 00:04:43,173 -Over the course of the 20th century, 108 00:04:43,266 --> 00:04:46,766 electricity and amplification didn't just make music louder, 109 00:04:46,866 --> 00:04:50,266 it transformed it, and there's no better example of that 110 00:04:50,366 --> 00:04:52,166 than the electric guitar. 111 00:04:52,266 --> 00:04:57,726 [ Playing outro ] 112 00:04:57,833 --> 00:05:00,073 -The electric guitar is its own instrument. 113 00:05:00,166 --> 00:05:04,426 [ Guitar solo ] 114 00:05:07,866 --> 00:05:11,266 -It magnifies every little nuance 115 00:05:11,366 --> 00:05:12,766 that the string gives off, 116 00:05:12,866 --> 00:05:15,296 that you probably wouldn't hear on a regular acoustic guitar. 117 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,700 [ Solo continues ] 118 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,970 [ Applause ] 119 00:05:24,466 --> 00:05:26,926 The richness of tone and the treble, 120 00:05:27,033 --> 00:05:28,273 it brings that out. 121 00:05:28,366 --> 00:05:31,596 [ Solo continues ] 122 00:05:34,433 --> 00:05:36,273 -It can sustain. 123 00:05:36,366 --> 00:05:40,666 [ Down-tempo blues playing ] 124 00:05:44,433 --> 00:05:47,273 -You can make it sound almost voice-like. 125 00:05:47,366 --> 00:05:49,666 You can make really gentle chords 126 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:51,496 and almost ethereal sounds, 127 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,800 and then with a flick of the switch, 128 00:05:53,900 --> 00:05:55,870 you can knock down buildings, you know. 129 00:05:55,966 --> 00:05:59,826 [ Up-tempo rock music plays ] 130 00:06:03,533 --> 00:06:05,533 ♪♪ 131 00:06:05,633 --> 00:06:08,603 -The electric guitar became so popular 132 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:10,500 and it gave the power to guitarists, 133 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,500 and it took all of us a long time to go 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,930 and wrench it back out of their nasty, little hands. 135 00:06:16,033 --> 00:06:19,373 [ Up-tempo blues plays ] 136 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:23,366 -Well, first thing that happened with the electric guitar 137 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:26,266 that was so important was Charlie Christian. 138 00:06:26,366 --> 00:06:29,326 People don't understand how important he really was. 139 00:06:29,433 --> 00:06:32,733 And he was discovered by John Hammond. 140 00:06:32,833 --> 00:06:35,503 -John Hammond helped define the landscape 141 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,670 of American popular music and jazz for a very long period. 142 00:06:40,766 --> 00:06:43,366 He put Charlie Christian together with Benny Goodman, 143 00:06:43,466 --> 00:06:46,266 which put the electric guitar on the...map. 144 00:06:46,366 --> 00:06:49,566 He not only went to Oklahoma and brought him, 145 00:06:49,666 --> 00:06:52,096 he forced him on Benny Goodman. 146 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,600 A black guy on the most famous white bandleader in the country. 147 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:59,230 And Goodman hated guitar players! 148 00:06:59,333 --> 00:07:04,133 [ Up-tempo jazz plays ] 149 00:07:04,233 --> 00:07:07,033 -Early on in the '30s, jazz guitar players 150 00:07:07,133 --> 00:07:10,133 were the guys in the big band with acoustic guitars, 151 00:07:10,233 --> 00:07:11,903 and they would play chords, just chords, 152 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,900 and it wasn't loud enough to play the melodies. 153 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,800 [ Jazz music continues ] 154 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:20,170 -So somewhere around 1939, Gibson comes out 155 00:07:20,266 --> 00:07:23,126 with a amplifier with the guitar. 156 00:07:23,233 --> 00:07:26,333 It's like 150 bucks, and Charlie Christian bought one. 157 00:07:26,433 --> 00:07:28,933 -Hammond was so confident 158 00:07:29,033 --> 00:07:31,003 that Goodman would completely freak out 159 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:32,470 when he heard that a guitar player 160 00:07:32,566 --> 00:07:34,726 could play like a saxophonist, that he would change his mind, 161 00:07:34,833 --> 00:07:37,403 so he said, "Benny, just do this one audition. 162 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,170 Just, you know, he's a kid from Oklahoma, just do it." 163 00:07:40,266 --> 00:07:45,166 [ Jazz guitar solo ] 164 00:07:45,266 --> 00:07:47,126 And as soon as Charlie started playing, 165 00:07:47,233 --> 00:07:50,073 and that sound came out of the amplifier, 166 00:07:50,166 --> 00:07:51,896 the Benny Goodman sextet was born. 167 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,170 [ Solo continues ] 168 00:07:56,266 --> 00:07:59,296 -For the first time, the guitar was not a background instrument. 169 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,470 Used to be dominated by saxophones and trumpets. 170 00:08:03,566 --> 00:08:05,326 Now, when you needed any more power, 171 00:08:05,433 --> 00:08:06,973 just turn that amplifier up. 172 00:08:07,066 --> 00:08:11,866 ♪♪ 173 00:08:11,966 --> 00:08:14,666 -Well, I'm a big Charlie Christian fan. 174 00:08:14,766 --> 00:08:18,796 ♪♪ 175 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:21,170 He's definitely the first rock guitarist. 176 00:08:21,266 --> 00:08:22,996 You can see from there to Hendrix, 177 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:27,570 he's just blowing everybody away. 178 00:08:27,666 --> 00:08:29,696 -The fact that there was a black man 179 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,130 playing an electric guitar, it opened up the doors, 180 00:08:34,233 --> 00:08:35,703 'cause when you hear his sound, 181 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,129 it's -- there's a direct connection between the tone 182 00:08:39,233 --> 00:08:42,433 of Charlie Christian's instrument and the blues. 183 00:08:42,533 --> 00:08:45,633 ♪♪ 184 00:08:48,333 --> 00:08:49,933 -It's difficult to think about music 185 00:08:50,033 --> 00:08:52,703 without thinking about the blues. 186 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,670 When you love music, no matter what -- 187 00:08:54,766 --> 00:08:57,196 You like punk rock, or pop music, or rock 'n' roll, 188 00:08:57,300 --> 00:09:01,300 or jazz, or rockabilly, country, they all lead right back 189 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,700 to the blues; that's the root of all of it. 190 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,370 ♪♪ 191 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:12,800 -I didn't get an electric guitar till 1946. 192 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:17,930 It would cost about $100 for the amplifier and the guitar. 193 00:09:18,033 --> 00:09:19,803 But the people just making a living on the farm 194 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:22,100 ain't getting no guitar too much, you know what I mean? 195 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,400 ♪ Standing at a corner 196 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:30,030 ♪ Fell down on my knees 197 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:33,770 ♪ At a corner 198 00:09:33,866 --> 00:09:36,226 -When I was young, I'd never seen an electric guitar, 199 00:09:36,333 --> 00:09:38,273 and where we lived it wouldn't have did me 200 00:09:38,366 --> 00:09:42,566 any good anyway because we had no electricity. 201 00:09:42,666 --> 00:09:46,196 -This area in Mississippi gave birth 202 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:49,200 to this incredible laundry list of people 203 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:51,730 who are the pioneers of the blues. 204 00:09:51,833 --> 00:09:55,733 Honeyboy Edwards, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, 205 00:09:55,833 --> 00:09:59,373 and some of them, of course, left there. 206 00:09:59,466 --> 00:10:03,766 [ Blues music plays ] 207 00:10:05,466 --> 00:10:09,466 -From the early 1920s, you have this massive migration 208 00:10:09,566 --> 00:10:11,466 of African Americans from South to North. 209 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:17,400 Chicago absorbs a lot of Southern black migrants. 210 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:20,170 People call it the Up South. 211 00:10:20,266 --> 00:10:23,266 -But really why I left the South for was to make records. 212 00:10:23,366 --> 00:10:25,526 I couldn't find no way to get to make records down there. 213 00:10:25,633 --> 00:10:27,273 I couldn't get no connections, you know. 214 00:10:27,366 --> 00:10:29,096 Said, "Well, I'm going to Chicago. 215 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,070 -♪ Well, I'm goin' away to leave ♪ 216 00:10:32,166 --> 00:10:34,366 ♪ Won't be back no more 217 00:10:34,466 --> 00:10:35,766 ♪ Going back down South 218 00:10:35,866 --> 00:10:37,496 -Every bit of music that happens, 219 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,230 happens in the context of a space. 220 00:10:39,333 --> 00:10:41,703 So at some point, somebody said, 221 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,870 "Hey, we can't -- we can't hear this acoustic guitar 222 00:10:43,966 --> 00:10:46,526 over the amount of people who are here." 223 00:10:46,633 --> 00:10:48,403 -And you playin' without an amplifier, 224 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:50,200 and people havin' a little fun, 225 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:52,230 takin' a little nip, they forget you there. 226 00:10:52,333 --> 00:10:54,873 -So let's plug it in. Let's, like, 227 00:10:54,966 --> 00:10:57,166 let's -- let's ramp it up. 228 00:10:57,266 --> 00:10:59,266 -♪ Got my mojo workin' 229 00:10:59,366 --> 00:11:03,426 ♪ But it just don't work on you ♪ 230 00:11:03,533 --> 00:11:05,403 -The difference in the Mississippi Delta Blues 231 00:11:05,500 --> 00:11:09,230 and Chicago Blues was they basically just put it on a train 232 00:11:09,333 --> 00:11:11,803 and took it up North and plugged it in. 233 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:14,430 Hot-wired the blues. 234 00:11:14,533 --> 00:11:17,473 -♪ My command 235 00:11:17,566 --> 00:11:19,496 ♪ Got my mojo workin' 236 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,000 -♪ Got my mojo workin' 237 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:24,000 -When the arc of the blues hits Muddy Waters, 238 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,700 at that time with the electrification of instruments, 239 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,670 it was all roads perfectly met in one man, 240 00:11:29,766 --> 00:11:31,766 in Chicago, in that moment. 241 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,970 Then when the blues invaded England, 242 00:11:39,066 --> 00:11:42,066 to me is one of the most important moments in music, 243 00:11:42,166 --> 00:11:44,926 because somebody had to recognize these guys 244 00:11:45,033 --> 00:11:48,203 for the musical heroes that they were. 245 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:51,430 -♪ I don't want you to 246 00:11:51,533 --> 00:11:53,103 ♪ Be no slave 247 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,970 -It was fairly surreal, 248 00:11:55,066 --> 00:11:58,266 the transfer of this music into England. 249 00:11:58,366 --> 00:12:00,966 Blues was completely different 250 00:12:01,066 --> 00:12:03,296 to anything that we'd ever heard before, 251 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,500 and it just had a natural attraction. 252 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,900 -♪ I just want to make 253 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,730 ♪ love to you 254 00:12:12,833 --> 00:12:15,503 ♪ Love to you 255 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,230 -Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, I think, 256 00:12:17,333 --> 00:12:20,133 had gone to school together, they had known each other, 257 00:12:20,233 --> 00:12:22,973 but they meet on a train platform in London 258 00:12:23,066 --> 00:12:26,326 and Mick has a Muddy Waters record 259 00:12:26,433 --> 00:12:29,673 and Keith looks at him and says, "What's that, mate?" 260 00:12:29,766 --> 00:12:31,966 you know, and that says a lot, doesn't it? 261 00:12:32,066 --> 00:12:35,466 They love, revere, the blues, you know, they've studied it, 262 00:12:35,566 --> 00:12:38,566 they are so heavily influenced by it. 263 00:12:38,666 --> 00:12:41,996 -♪ I just wanna make love to you ♪ 264 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:43,970 ♪ Baby, love to you 265 00:12:44,066 --> 00:12:45,726 ♪ Baby, love to you 266 00:12:45,833 --> 00:12:49,573 -Well, I didn't quite know how to take the Rolling Stones. 267 00:12:49,666 --> 00:12:52,066 It sounded like they were 268 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:54,696 trying to sing badly. 269 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,330 You know, it sounded like they were going out of their way 270 00:12:57,433 --> 00:12:59,833 to not hit the right notes, you know what I mean? 271 00:12:59,933 --> 00:13:02,973 -♪ I don't want you to wash my clothes ♪ 272 00:13:03,066 --> 00:13:05,566 -The Rolling Stones were the bad boys 273 00:13:05,666 --> 00:13:07,526 of English rock 'n' roll, 274 00:13:07,633 --> 00:13:10,933 and, and they were always marketed that way. 275 00:13:11,033 --> 00:13:12,373 They may not have been, 276 00:13:12,466 --> 00:13:14,026 but that was the way they were marketed. 277 00:13:14,133 --> 00:13:16,903 -♪ I just wanna make love to you ♪ 278 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,870 ♪ Baby, love to you 279 00:13:18,966 --> 00:13:20,726 ♪ Baby, love to you 280 00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:24,273 -Keith is the riff meister. 281 00:13:24,366 --> 00:13:26,396 How in the world does he come up 282 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,930 with something like "Satisfaction"? 283 00:13:29,033 --> 00:13:31,033 [ Cheers and applause ] 284 00:13:31,133 --> 00:13:35,873 [ Rolling Stones's "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" plays ] 285 00:13:41,333 --> 00:13:43,533 ♪♪ 286 00:13:43,633 --> 00:13:46,573 ♪ I can't get no 287 00:13:46,666 --> 00:13:49,026 ♪ Satisfaction 288 00:13:49,133 --> 00:13:51,933 -That really was the moment that changed everything. 289 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:54,433 When "Satisfaction" came out, that was it. 290 00:13:54,533 --> 00:13:56,533 The Stones were the number-one rock 'n' roll band. 291 00:13:56,633 --> 00:14:00,973 ♪ And I try, and I try, and I try ♪ 292 00:14:01,066 --> 00:14:03,826 ♪ I can't get no 293 00:14:03,933 --> 00:14:06,633 ♪ I can't get no 294 00:14:06,733 --> 00:14:09,673 ♪ Oh, when I'm driving in my car ♪ 295 00:14:09,766 --> 00:14:12,466 -Prior to that song, 296 00:14:12,566 --> 00:14:14,966 Brian Jones had always provided all the riffs. 297 00:14:15,066 --> 00:14:17,926 So when they went to America and recorded "Satisfaction" 298 00:14:18,033 --> 00:14:20,273 and brought it back, the fact that Keith had played a riff 299 00:14:20,366 --> 00:14:21,926 at all was pretty astonishing. 300 00:14:22,033 --> 00:14:24,703 Equally, the fact that it had such an amazing influence 301 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,600 on the song was quite remarkable. 302 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:29,830 [ Guitar tuning ] 303 00:14:29,933 --> 00:14:31,433 -I mean, it was a big deal 304 00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:33,833 when I learned that a lot of the stuff, 305 00:14:33,933 --> 00:14:37,473 like, that I was scratching my head over, 306 00:14:37,566 --> 00:14:40,296 when I realized it was in a different tuning. 307 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,100 That's how he was doing that thing, you know? 308 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,770 It all started to make sense, you know? 309 00:14:44,866 --> 00:14:46,666 Muddy Waters would have used this tuning a lot. 310 00:14:46,766 --> 00:14:48,826 This was like, "Oh, yeah, Keith Richards was doing..." 311 00:14:48,933 --> 00:14:51,903 [ Strumming guitar ] 312 00:14:55,766 --> 00:14:57,866 -Err-err [Laughs] 313 00:14:57,966 --> 00:15:00,996 You know, just think of it in terms of human speech, 314 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,000 what, the attitude behind making a sou-- 315 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:04,500 [ Grunts ] 316 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,230 It's like a machine gun, man, you know. 317 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:09,373 That's -- that -- that's -- That's the statement being made. 318 00:15:09,466 --> 00:15:13,026 That's what -- what -- what Keith's doing with that sound, 319 00:15:13,133 --> 00:15:16,203 that's -- that's what Mick's doing with the vocal. 320 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:19,770 -♪ When I'm driving in my car 321 00:15:19,866 --> 00:15:23,026 ♪ And a man comes on the radio 322 00:15:23,133 --> 00:15:25,573 ♪ And tellin' me more and more 323 00:15:25,666 --> 00:15:28,666 ♪ About some useless information ♪ 324 00:15:28,766 --> 00:15:32,526 -It's this cocky, rebellious music. 325 00:15:32,633 --> 00:15:35,603 It's, like, right in the face of the oppressor. 326 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:37,530 Get the...out of my way. 327 00:15:37,633 --> 00:15:38,873 [ Laughs ] 328 00:15:38,966 --> 00:15:41,326 And that -- And if you're 14 years old, 329 00:15:41,433 --> 00:15:42,833 it's audio testosterone. 330 00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:45,073 -♪ All right 331 00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:47,666 ♪ I can't get no 332 00:15:47,766 --> 00:15:50,226 -The production elements that are employed on those records 333 00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:52,103 only enhance the message. 334 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,430 Probably the earliest use of the fuzz-tone. 335 00:15:54,533 --> 00:15:57,103 It's very early use of that. 336 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,930 -The first specific unit that was made to distort a guitar 337 00:16:01,033 --> 00:16:02,603 opened up incredible possibilities, 338 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:04,570 just because you could make a note sustain 339 00:16:04,666 --> 00:16:06,266 for as long as that, apart from anything else, 340 00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:07,726 and it made it sound more aggressive. 341 00:16:07,833 --> 00:16:09,933 -♪ Phenomenal lies 342 00:16:10,033 --> 00:16:15,473 ♪ On the cosmic eternity party line ♪ 343 00:16:15,566 --> 00:16:18,226 The guitar can be a shield and a weapon. 344 00:16:18,333 --> 00:16:20,033 It can scream when I can't. 345 00:16:20,133 --> 00:16:22,333 It can be the monster or the villain. 346 00:16:22,433 --> 00:16:23,903 It oughta just be a noisemaker 347 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,200 and if serving the song means that it's a knife coming in 348 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:30,900 and slashing the painting, then that's what it ought to be. 349 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,500 ♪ Like a birth in reverse 350 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,770 ♪ What I saw through the blinds ♪ 351 00:16:36,866 --> 00:16:38,166 -The guitar, when it's distorted, 352 00:16:38,266 --> 00:16:40,226 sounds threatening, even at low level. 353 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,933 If you switch off the distortion and then turn up the level, 354 00:16:44,033 --> 00:16:46,533 you don't feel threatened, because it's a clear sound. 355 00:16:46,633 --> 00:16:49,573 But for some reason, the distortion, 356 00:16:49,666 --> 00:16:51,566 it strikes, like, fear. 357 00:16:51,666 --> 00:16:54,796 -I remember when I first got my electric guitar, 358 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:56,030 it just didn't sound right. 359 00:16:56,133 --> 00:16:57,703 I'm like, "Wait a second. 360 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,770 This doesn't sound like 'Revolution' by The Beatles. 361 00:16:59,866 --> 00:17:01,696 What, oh, I need a distortion pedal?" 362 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,170 I said, "Mom, can I please have $25? 363 00:17:04,266 --> 00:17:06,126 I have to get this thing. It's called a distortion --" 364 00:17:06,233 --> 00:17:07,673 "Distortion pedal, what's that?" 365 00:17:07,766 --> 00:17:09,696 So I plug it in, I get it home, and I turn it up, 366 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,270 it's like khhhh, and I'm so excited! 367 00:17:12,366 --> 00:17:15,266 My mom's, like, "Is that thing broken?" 368 00:17:15,366 --> 00:17:17,426 I'm like, "No. Doesn't it sound great?!" 369 00:17:17,533 --> 00:17:20,233 She's like, "Absolutely not! [Laughs] Sounds horrible!" 370 00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:23,373 [ Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love" plays ] 371 00:17:28,266 --> 00:17:30,966 -It must've been '66, maybe. 372 00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:33,926 I was a student at the Regent Street Poly, 373 00:17:34,033 --> 00:17:37,003 and for our end-of-term dance, we had Cream. 374 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:41,700 -♪ It's getting near dawn 375 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,230 ♪ When lights close -And the curtains open. 376 00:17:43,333 --> 00:17:47,173 ♪♪ 377 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:50,326 It was like ohhh! 378 00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:54,333 -♪ I've been waiting so long 379 00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:58,873 ♪ To be where I'm going 380 00:17:58,966 --> 00:18:01,926 ♪ In the sunshine of your 381 00:18:02,033 --> 00:18:06,173 ♪ love 382 00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:10,166 ♪♪ 383 00:18:10,266 --> 00:18:13,266 ♪ I'm with you my love 384 00:18:13,366 --> 00:18:16,266 -And it was just an incredible moment. 385 00:18:16,366 --> 00:18:18,166 And then, they suddenly said, 386 00:18:18,266 --> 00:18:21,666 "We'd like to bring on a friend of ours from the United States, 387 00:18:21,766 --> 00:18:23,396 who's gonna play a few songs with us" 388 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:25,470 and this bloke came on. It was Jimi Hendrix. 389 00:18:25,566 --> 00:18:29,596 [ "Purple Haze" plays ] 390 00:18:33,333 --> 00:18:36,773 -He was the one that completely upset the apple cart 391 00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:41,296 amongst the guitar fraternity in London, I know for a fact, 392 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,930 and pretty much everywhere else. 393 00:18:43,033 --> 00:18:44,933 -Hendrix toured in soul bands, 394 00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:47,433 so he really knew soul music, like dance music. 395 00:18:47,533 --> 00:18:50,173 He understood, like, what made people move. 396 00:18:50,266 --> 00:18:53,266 [ Mid-tempo swing music plays ] 397 00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,166 -♪ Girl 398 00:18:56,266 --> 00:18:59,296 -Jimi Hendrix was a hell of a entertainer, 399 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,900 but he was in competition with Little Richard 400 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,970 and you don't go on a stage with Little Richard 401 00:19:04,066 --> 00:19:06,026 and outdo Little Richard. 402 00:19:06,133 --> 00:19:07,403 Little Richard got rid of him. 403 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:09,730 He was a genius! 404 00:19:09,833 --> 00:19:12,003 Very technical and get the... [Imitates guitar] 405 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:15,600 [ Guitar solo ] 406 00:19:20,633 --> 00:19:24,003 [ Cheering and whistling ] 407 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:25,230 -He was influenced by people, 408 00:19:25,333 --> 00:19:26,833 but because it went through his brain, 409 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,133 it was filtered through his mind, it sounded like him. 410 00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:33,033 [ Playing with teeth ] 411 00:19:33,133 --> 00:19:35,003 -And he was doing all this stuff with his teeth 412 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,700 and behind his head and all of that. 413 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,400 I was just, like, "Oh, my." 414 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:43,000 [ Guitar solo ] 415 00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:45,130 -He taught us that you got to loosen up. 416 00:19:45,233 --> 00:19:46,873 The teeth in the back, behind the head, 417 00:19:46,966 --> 00:19:48,626 we wouldn't dream of doing that. 418 00:19:48,733 --> 00:19:51,073 Can you imagine if Eric and I had done this at the time? 419 00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:53,126 They would've just thrown... at us, you know? 420 00:19:53,233 --> 00:19:56,033 His appearance was also outrageous. 421 00:19:56,133 --> 00:19:57,903 I mean, he had an afro, 422 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,130 which was sort of out of control. 423 00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:04,003 [ Guitar solo ] 424 00:20:10,166 --> 00:20:13,126 His clothes were out of control, sexy, as well. 425 00:20:13,233 --> 00:20:16,033 I mean, all the ingredients needed were there. 426 00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:19,933 [ Guitar solo ] 427 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,300 He had it all. He had fantastic technique, 428 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,130 which no one can really get hold of. 429 00:20:28,233 --> 00:20:31,603 [ Down-tempo blues-rock plays ] 430 00:20:38,333 --> 00:20:42,973 ♪♪ 431 00:20:43,066 --> 00:20:49,226 -He's such a historically aware musician. 432 00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:51,003 So he knows the masters. 433 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:52,330 The three kings as he called them. 434 00:20:52,433 --> 00:20:55,633 Albert, Freddie, and B.B., you know. 435 00:20:55,733 --> 00:20:59,533 [ Guitar solo ] 436 00:21:01,533 --> 00:21:03,573 But he's also a psychedelic hippie, 437 00:21:03,666 --> 00:21:06,526 and he understands the whole world of recordmaking 438 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:10,303 as this world of enormous possibility. 439 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,700 -Jimi Hendrix was the greatest electric guitar player 440 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,330 I've ever seen or heard 441 00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:18,603 or had the great privilege of recording. 442 00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:20,930 For about two weeks, we were experimenting 443 00:21:21,033 --> 00:21:24,373 with stereo phasing, which had never been done before. 444 00:21:24,466 --> 00:21:25,596 We said, "Jimi, come in. 445 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:26,730 We've got something we want to play you." 446 00:21:26,833 --> 00:21:29,933 So Jimi comes in, and we start playing 447 00:21:30,033 --> 00:21:32,073 the middle part of "Axis: Bold as Love" 448 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:33,366 where the drums come in. 449 00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:35,766 It goes badoo, doo, doo, baduckadaduckada. 450 00:21:35,866 --> 00:21:37,296 [ Drumbeat ] 451 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,270 And the phasing kicks in. 452 00:21:39,366 --> 00:21:42,526 [ Drums phasing ] 453 00:21:42,633 --> 00:21:44,533 He grabbed his head in his hands, went, 454 00:21:44,633 --> 00:21:47,933 "Ah! Oh, my God! I can't believe you. 455 00:21:48,033 --> 00:21:51,633 How did you do that?! That was in my dream! Ahhh!" 456 00:21:51,733 --> 00:21:54,203 I want that on everything, man! 457 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:57,570 And so every day we were trying new things. 458 00:21:57,666 --> 00:22:01,326 Heavy compression, weird types of EQ, 459 00:22:01,433 --> 00:22:03,933 backwards tapes. 460 00:22:04,033 --> 00:22:08,103 [ Chimes, cymbals playing ] 461 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,970 -These albums, like "Electric Ladyland" 462 00:22:11,066 --> 00:22:16,096 are kind of sonic fantasies. 463 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,670 They are worlds unto themselves 464 00:22:18,766 --> 00:22:20,826 that could never actually exist in real life. 465 00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:23,033 ♪♪ 466 00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:24,933 I don't think there was any artist 467 00:22:25,033 --> 00:22:27,833 exactly like Jimi Hendrix who could use his guitar 468 00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:31,533 to mold and sculpt time and space, 469 00:22:31,633 --> 00:22:33,603 and just through his guitar performance, 470 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:37,970 could give you a complete essay on what the '60s were like, 471 00:22:38,066 --> 00:22:41,596 on what it was like to be an African American man 472 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,870 who was working in multiple genres, 473 00:22:43,966 --> 00:22:45,466 who was living in between 474 00:22:45,566 --> 00:22:47,696 certain intersections of identity. 475 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,270 [Cheers and applause] [Phasing] 476 00:22:53,566 --> 00:22:56,966 [ Guitar feedback ] 477 00:22:59,266 --> 00:23:01,826 When you hear Jimi Hendrix play guitar, 478 00:23:01,933 --> 00:23:03,403 it's Jimi Hendrix's voice 479 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:06,100 screaming through the instrument. 480 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,700 [ Guitar rumbling ] 481 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,030 He radicalized the use and the form 482 00:23:14,133 --> 00:23:17,503 and the point of what the guitar was, 483 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,270 and so everybody started thinking, 484 00:23:19,366 --> 00:23:21,266 "What can I do with a musical instrument?" 485 00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:22,896 In large part because of The Beatles 486 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000 and what they were doing with using Eastern instruments 487 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,530 and so on, but also I think you have to credit Jimi Hendrix 488 00:23:27,633 --> 00:23:29,173 for changing the game. 489 00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:32,566 ♪♪ 490 00:23:32,666 --> 00:23:34,996 -The impulse to change the sound of the music 491 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:36,600 was nothing new. 492 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,930 It was -- That's what rock 'n' roll always was, 493 00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:40,933 always looking for something different. 494 00:23:41,033 --> 00:23:45,873 Then as technology continues to develop through the '70s, 495 00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:47,726 there's just more and more possibilities. 496 00:23:47,833 --> 00:23:51,903 [ The Who's "Baba O'Riley" plays ] 497 00:23:57,333 --> 00:24:00,233 ♪♪ 498 00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:02,803 -My first introduction to the synthesizer 499 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:04,400 was through Pete Townshend, 500 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,330 when he asked me to do "Who's Next." 501 00:24:06,433 --> 00:24:09,573 And he sent me the demos that he'd made in his own studio. 502 00:24:09,666 --> 00:24:12,096 He's an extremely accomplished engineer. 503 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,770 [ The Who's "Baba O'Riley" continues ] 504 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:19,500 [ Drumbeat ] 505 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,830 I couldn't believe the sounds 506 00:24:20,933 --> 00:24:22,233 that were coming out of these demos, 507 00:24:22,333 --> 00:24:24,473 because of the synthesizer he'd used. 508 00:24:24,566 --> 00:24:26,626 Back in those days, they were really complicated 509 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:27,873 [ "Greensleeves" plays ] and looked a bit like 510 00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:29,226 the old-fashioned telephone exchangers, 511 00:24:29,333 --> 00:24:31,333 [laughs] cords going everywhere. 512 00:24:31,433 --> 00:24:33,403 -There are oscillators, which produce the sound. 513 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:36,300 Filters, amplifiers, and envelope generators, 514 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:42,600 which shape it. [Note descending] 515 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,400 -First of all, he figured out how to work it, 516 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,400 but he then took it and used it, 517 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,130 for the first time in my experience anyway, 518 00:24:49,233 --> 00:24:50,403 in the most extraordinary way, 519 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:53,470 "Baba O'Riley" being a classic example. 520 00:24:53,566 --> 00:24:58,796 [ Intro to The Who's "Baba O'Riley" plays ] 521 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:00,570 He created a rhythm pattern 522 00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:02,596 that was not only a very strange sound, 523 00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:06,770 but the actual rhythm itself was rather odd, 524 00:25:06,866 --> 00:25:08,296 and then wrote a song 'round it. 525 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,600 [ Band joins in ] 526 00:25:15,566 --> 00:25:19,196 And juxtaposed it against the power of Keith Moon, 527 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,230 John Entwistle, and himself, 528 00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:23,503 playing guitar, bass, and drums. 529 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,230 And then, the extraordinary explosive vocal 530 00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:29,373 that Roger Daltrey gives us. 531 00:25:29,466 --> 00:25:33,666 -♪ Out here in the fields 532 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:38,226 ♪ I fight for my meals 533 00:25:38,333 --> 00:25:44,303 ♪ I get my back into my living 534 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,670 -One of my major problems was to compete with Pete's demos, 535 00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:49,796 which were invariably amazing, 536 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,200 and very often, I'd steal elements from the demo, 537 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:56,800 the synthesizer track, and then would play that in to the band, 538 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:58,630 and they would -- They actually recorded 539 00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:01,233 to a playback of Pete's synthesizer, 540 00:26:01,333 --> 00:26:04,173 because the synthesizer suggests the rhythm. 541 00:26:04,266 --> 00:26:08,366 ♪♪ 542 00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:10,396 -Keith had terrible trouble with it. 543 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,330 Keith used to have to play to a click track. 544 00:26:12,433 --> 00:26:15,003 And he used to tape the earphones to his head, 545 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:17,270 'cause he was such an animated drummer. 546 00:26:17,366 --> 00:26:19,426 You know, when we used to do "Baba O'Riley" 547 00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:21,903 and "I Won't Get Fooled Again," to a backing track 548 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,330 of that sound, it's a fifth member of the band. 549 00:26:26,433 --> 00:26:29,973 [ Synthesizer playing calliope music ] 550 00:26:33,966 --> 00:26:38,626 -The synthesizer really migrated from the music lab 551 00:26:38,733 --> 00:26:42,633 to the pop music scene because of Bob Moog, a wonderful man. 552 00:26:42,733 --> 00:26:44,333 He was a guy with a pencil protector. 553 00:26:44,433 --> 00:26:45,733 You know what I'm saying? 554 00:26:45,833 --> 00:26:47,473 Short-sleeved white shirt, pencil protector, 555 00:26:47,566 --> 00:26:48,796 lots of pencils. 556 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,470 He was an engineer, and a good one. 557 00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:53,526 [ Synthesizer playing ] 558 00:26:53,633 --> 00:26:57,533 A synthesizer means massaging the electrons in space 559 00:26:57,633 --> 00:27:01,473 to create a new sound from nothing. 560 00:27:01,566 --> 00:27:04,296 Bob Moog had a certain vision, 561 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,430 and a bunch of us played into it -- 562 00:27:06,533 --> 00:27:08,903 [ Ethereal tune plays ] 563 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,370 Beaver & Krause... 564 00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:17,296 Keith Emerson... 565 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,770 Silver Apples, 566 00:27:18,866 --> 00:27:23,266 Wendy Carlos, Peter Nero. 567 00:27:23,366 --> 00:27:25,896 A few people were starting to push the synthesizer 568 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,400 into being an instrument that people could use. 569 00:27:32,533 --> 00:27:34,433 There was no school you could learn 570 00:27:34,533 --> 00:27:36,873 how to play the synthesizer. There was no course. 571 00:27:36,966 --> 00:27:38,196 You just had to pick it up and start learning. 572 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:41,600 ♪♪ 573 00:27:45,266 --> 00:27:48,066 But when I heard it, my world exploded. 574 00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:51,896 I ran straight into the arms of electronica, 575 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,600 and I ended up buying one of the first 576 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:57,830 Moog Series III synthesizers. 577 00:27:57,933 --> 00:28:00,103 I loved it, because it made me feel like 578 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,670 I was a U-boat captain from another galaxy 579 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:04,726 when I was standing in front of it. 580 00:28:04,833 --> 00:28:06,503 And there was this very wonderful guy 581 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,700 named Malcolm Cecil. 582 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,900 First-class upright bass player and, 583 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,370 he was upright and the bass was upright. 584 00:28:12,466 --> 00:28:15,496 He said, "I have to learn how to play the synthesizer." 585 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,100 I said, "I'll make a deal with you." 586 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,900 -And he said, "Would you be willing to show me 587 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,630 how to record properly?" 588 00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:21,903 I said, "Well, would be willing to show me 589 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,170 how to run that thing?" 590 00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:24,866 -"I'll show you how to play the synthesizer, 591 00:28:24,966 --> 00:28:27,796 if you teach me how to become a real recording engineer." 592 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,930 -And, I said, "Yes." 593 00:28:30,033 --> 00:28:33,503 [ Synthesizer playing ethereal sounds ] 594 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,500 -And that began our journey together. 595 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,430 ♪♪ 596 00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:44,903 -They were these two crazy guys, and they built this massive bank 597 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,870 of synthesizers they called TONTO. 598 00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:49,566 -Modules by ARP, modules by Moog, 599 00:28:49,666 --> 00:28:51,266 modules by me and Malcolm. 600 00:28:51,366 --> 00:28:54,066 -It looked like [Laughs] 601 00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:57,426 it just took up, I don't know, several walls, 602 00:28:57,533 --> 00:28:59,133 with the patch cords and it was insane. 603 00:28:59,233 --> 00:29:03,873 ♪♪ 604 00:29:03,966 --> 00:29:06,796 -We made a record which we weren't sure was even music. 605 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,670 It was called "Zero Time." 606 00:29:08,766 --> 00:29:11,096 Got a huge write-up inRolling Stone 607 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,700 because it was so wacky and weird. 608 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,170 Stevie Wonder heard it, 609 00:29:16,266 --> 00:29:18,826 and the next thing we know there's a knocking at the door, 610 00:29:18,933 --> 00:29:21,233 and there's Stevie in a chartreuse jumpsuit, 611 00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:24,273 5:00 or 6:00 at night, with our album under his arm, 612 00:29:24,366 --> 00:29:26,726 and he wanted to know how we were making this kind of music. 613 00:29:26,833 --> 00:29:29,033 -I called Bob on the phone, and said, 614 00:29:29,133 --> 00:29:31,173 "Get over here. We've got a new client." 615 00:29:31,266 --> 00:29:32,696 -And we let him in the studio, 616 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,930 and we didn't wake up for another five years. 617 00:29:35,033 --> 00:29:39,373 [ Stevie Wonder's "Living for the City" plays ] 618 00:29:39,466 --> 00:29:41,226 -♪ A boy is born 619 00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,203 ♪ In hardtime Mississippi 620 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,000 ♪ Surrounded by 621 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,570 ♪ Four walls that ain't so pretty ♪ 622 00:29:48,666 --> 00:29:50,226 -Steve walked into that studio. 623 00:29:50,333 --> 00:29:51,873 He had so many songs in his head 624 00:29:51,966 --> 00:29:55,196 that had been pent up in there for so many years. 625 00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:58,030 I don't know. Motown had him on a formula. 626 00:29:58,133 --> 00:30:00,703 -♪ Living just enough 627 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,430 ♪ Just enough for the city 628 00:30:06,533 --> 00:30:08,673 ♪ Yah 629 00:30:08,766 --> 00:30:10,396 ♪ His father works 630 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,430 ♪ Some days for 14 hours 631 00:30:13,533 --> 00:30:15,233 ♪ And you can bet 632 00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:18,373 ♪ He barely makes a dollar 633 00:30:18,466 --> 00:30:20,096 ♪ His mother goes 634 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,100 ♪ To scrub the floors for many 635 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,900 ♪ And you'd best believe 636 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 ♪ She hardly gets a penny 637 00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,770 ♪ Living just enough 638 00:30:29,866 --> 00:30:33,726 ♪ Just enough for the city 639 00:30:33,833 --> 00:30:36,133 -Motown treats their artists. 640 00:30:36,233 --> 00:30:38,873 They have almost, like, a finishing school, 641 00:30:38,966 --> 00:30:43,626 so the way the artists dressed, the way they performed onstage, 642 00:30:43,733 --> 00:30:47,173 all cultivated so as not to offend 643 00:30:47,266 --> 00:30:50,366 what were considered mainstream white sensibilities. 644 00:30:50,466 --> 00:30:52,566 -And Steve turned 21 and he got -- 645 00:30:52,666 --> 00:30:53,796 was really fed up with it. 646 00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:55,400 He's finally reached his majority, said, 647 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,900 "I'm over. I'm leaving." 648 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,930 And he came to New York, and we just started recording. 649 00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:05,873 [ Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" plays ] 650 00:31:05,966 --> 00:31:08,866 -It was like they were working on Frankenstein. 651 00:31:08,966 --> 00:31:11,626 I mean, just up all day, all night, 652 00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:15,033 and coming up with these nuances and timbres. 653 00:31:15,133 --> 00:31:19,603 -♪ Very superstitious 654 00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:24,770 ♪ Writing's on the wall 655 00:31:24,866 --> 00:31:27,296 ♪ Very superstitious 656 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,170 -One slight touch of a button could give you 657 00:31:29,266 --> 00:31:30,866 a whole nother color. 658 00:31:30,966 --> 00:31:35,466 So, Malcolm and Bob's whole job was to figure out, 659 00:31:35,566 --> 00:31:38,796 you know, what colors were inside of his head. 660 00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:40,870 -♪ Broke the lookin' glass 661 00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:43,796 -I had a two-track tape running at all times, 662 00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:47,170 because that's where most of the ideas came from. 663 00:31:47,266 --> 00:31:49,626 And, I'd say, "Hey, is that a song?" 664 00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:51,103 And, we'd play it back, 665 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,800 something that he was just musing around, 666 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:54,600 and he'd go, "Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah." 667 00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:56,930 And he would get an idea, off we would go. 668 00:31:57,033 --> 00:31:59,103 ♪♪ 669 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,400 We recorded well in excess of 250 songs. 670 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,500 -When we finally got to making an album, we said, 671 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,230 "Oh, we'll take this one and that one," 672 00:32:06,333 --> 00:32:10,173 and somehow, for five years, we could do nothing wrong. 673 00:32:10,266 --> 00:32:12,566 Every record we touched turned to gold. 674 00:32:12,666 --> 00:32:17,396 -♪ You are the sunshine of my life ♪ 675 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,030 -Grammys, platinum, gold. 676 00:32:20,133 --> 00:32:23,503 -♪ That's why I'll always be around ♪ 677 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,800 -Stevie Wonder was able to take all the innovations 678 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:30,430 and then just bring it to a level 679 00:32:30,533 --> 00:32:32,403 that was so simple to understand. 680 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,900 It was funky enough for soul people and rock people 681 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,200 and music lovers in general to appreciate it. 682 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:42,070 That's hard to do. 683 00:32:42,166 --> 00:32:47,426 -♪ I feel like this is the beginning ♪ 684 00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:49,633 -There's still a lot of controversy, 685 00:32:49,733 --> 00:32:53,333 because people feel like, if you introduce electronics, 686 00:32:53,433 --> 00:32:56,033 you're sort of changing the nature of the sound. 687 00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:57,773 Some people are against this, 688 00:32:57,866 --> 00:33:02,666 and Stevie not only embraces it, he, I think, leads the pack. 689 00:33:02,766 --> 00:33:08,596 -♪ I'd find myself drowning in my own tears ♪ 690 00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:11,230 ♪ Ooh-whoa, oh, oh, whoa-oh, oh ♪ 691 00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:12,973 [Synthesizer playing] ♪ You are the sunshine 692 00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:15,496 ♪ Of my life 693 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,570 -It's one of the most versatile instruments. 694 00:33:18,666 --> 00:33:19,966 This thing can sound really clean. 695 00:33:20,066 --> 00:33:21,626 It can sound like a whistle, 696 00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:25,473 or it can sound really gnarly and, like, disgusting. 697 00:33:25,566 --> 00:33:28,126 [ Sound modulates ] 698 00:33:28,233 --> 00:33:29,433 Through the process of looking for a sound 699 00:33:29,533 --> 00:33:30,903 that sounds like a flute, 700 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,900 I'll come up with something that sounds like, 701 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,230 you know, someone getting, like, stabbed in the neck. 702 00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:38,433 This is my Mini-Moog. 703 00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:40,233 This one's, like, super-modified, 704 00:33:40,333 --> 00:33:44,803 and I wanted it 'cause it's exactly like the one Devo used 705 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:47,900 and they were, like, the kings of the mini-Moog. 706 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,900 -We're all Devo. 707 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,730 [ Cheers and applause ] 708 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:56,533 -The first time I was made aware of Devo, 709 00:33:56,633 --> 00:33:58,073 I said, "You've got to be joking. 710 00:33:58,166 --> 00:33:59,796 They spit on people. They do all of this? 711 00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:01,670 They're never gonna do anything." 712 00:34:01,766 --> 00:34:05,466 Of course, Devo came out with their first album, 713 00:34:05,566 --> 00:34:07,896 and they were on "Saturday Night Live." 714 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,670 I saw them on that and was totally blown away. 715 00:34:09,766 --> 00:34:13,926 [ Devo's "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" plays ] 716 00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,300 -We really were only on college radio before that, 717 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,370 so nobody knew who we were. 718 00:34:26,466 --> 00:34:28,666 It was almost like "Saturday Night Live" 719 00:34:28,766 --> 00:34:30,296 played a prank on the nation. 720 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,800 ♪♪ 721 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:35,430 "Satisfaction," it was like my anthem. 722 00:34:35,533 --> 00:34:38,373 I remember playing the 45 at home, you know, 723 00:34:38,466 --> 00:34:40,526 on a little portable machine. 724 00:34:40,633 --> 00:34:42,503 -♪ I can't get no 725 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,000 ♪ Satisfaction 726 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,930 ♪ I can't get me no 727 00:34:47,033 --> 00:34:49,473 ♪ Satisfaction 728 00:34:49,566 --> 00:34:51,796 ♪ And I try, and I try 729 00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:53,600 ♪ And I try, t-t-t-t-try, try 730 00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:54,969 ♪ I can't get no 731 00:34:55,066 --> 00:34:56,466 -There were people that took offense 732 00:34:56,566 --> 00:34:59,296 to Devo covering "Satisfaction." 733 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,030 And, and there was -- 'Cause, you know, it's like, guard dogs. 734 00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:04,403 They sniffed that we were trying to change things 735 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:05,830 and that we wanted to, like, 736 00:35:05,933 --> 00:35:09,733 tip over the potato cart one more time. 737 00:35:09,833 --> 00:35:14,403 10 years earlier, we were art students at Kent State. 738 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,430 I just remember being kind of shocked 739 00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:17,733 that all of sudden something that came 740 00:35:17,833 --> 00:35:20,403 from just all of us announcing that we were against 741 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,930 the war in Vietnam, 742 00:35:23,033 --> 00:35:26,933 was now Jeeps and tanks and National Guardsmen. 743 00:35:27,033 --> 00:35:35,703 [ Barrage of gunfire ] 744 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,130 -The university campus has been closed. 745 00:35:38,233 --> 00:35:42,433 -After all the student protests were crushed in this country, 746 00:35:42,533 --> 00:35:45,333 everybody kind of went, "Okay, that was a little too real. 747 00:35:45,433 --> 00:35:46,603 They killed people. 748 00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:48,170 They're putting people in jail 749 00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:50,726 for disagreeing with the government. 750 00:35:50,833 --> 00:35:53,403 Let's just go back to having a good time." 751 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:58,970 So, the bands like Kansas and Styx and Foreigner came along 752 00:35:59,066 --> 00:36:02,666 and the politics were kind of, like, "I'm white. 753 00:36:02,766 --> 00:36:04,466 I'm a misogynist. 754 00:36:04,566 --> 00:36:07,326 I'm a conspicuous consumer and I'm proud of it." 755 00:36:07,433 --> 00:36:11,133 And, we were, like, "What happened to Bob Dylan? 756 00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:12,603 What happened to all these people 757 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:16,800 that had something to say and were critiquing our culture?" 758 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:20,970 I remember watching footage of medical evacuations, 759 00:36:21,066 --> 00:36:22,426 you know, from Vietnam, and I thought, 760 00:36:22,533 --> 00:36:24,003 "Those are the kind of sounds I need. 761 00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,530 I want to make music with helicopters 762 00:36:25,633 --> 00:36:29,233 and with ray guns and with lasers. 763 00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:31,173 I want to make music where we're using sounds 764 00:36:31,266 --> 00:36:33,626 that have something to do with what's going on in our world." 765 00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,503 [ Synthesizer sounds playing ] 766 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,870 I'd been interested in synthesizers 767 00:36:38,966 --> 00:36:44,166 and really felt that technology was leading the way. 768 00:36:44,266 --> 00:36:46,396 -You've got to explain all this to us. I mean, like, is this how 769 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,570 you sort of make up all these songs, with all these -- 770 00:36:48,666 --> 00:36:50,326 -Well, we let the machines make up the songs. 771 00:36:50,433 --> 00:36:51,903 We just are the human instruments. 772 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,970 -We're using technology to make caveman sounds. 773 00:36:55,066 --> 00:36:56,466 -♪ Wha-hoo 774 00:36:56,566 --> 00:36:58,526 ♪ Ooh-ooh, ooh 775 00:36:58,633 --> 00:36:59,603 ♪ Ooh 776 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:01,130 ♪ Wha-hoo 777 00:37:01,233 --> 00:37:03,403 ♪ Ooh-ooh, ooh 778 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:04,400 ♪ Ooh 779 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:05,900 ♪ Wha-hoo 780 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,500 ♪ Ooh-ooh, ooh 781 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,870 ♪ Ooh 782 00:37:09,966 --> 00:37:11,196 -For the first couple records, 783 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:12,830 our record company just thought of us 784 00:37:12,933 --> 00:37:17,073 as this weird little art band, but "Freedom of Choice," 785 00:37:17,166 --> 00:37:19,566 that album, still kind of robotic, 786 00:37:19,666 --> 00:37:24,066 but we hired a producer named Bob Margouleff. 787 00:37:24,166 --> 00:37:25,826 [ Engine starts ] 788 00:37:25,933 --> 00:37:27,403 [ Siren wails ] 789 00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,770 -I'm sitting there in the front office, 790 00:37:29,866 --> 00:37:31,796 and these two little Volkswagen Bugs 791 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,330 come into the parking lot 792 00:37:34,433 --> 00:37:36,073 and the Devos get out. 793 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,530 They're wearing jumpsuits 794 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:43,733 and hard hats with like a tank on the side 795 00:37:43,833 --> 00:37:46,203 with a plastic hose going up their noses. 796 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:48,970 Even the jaded people at the record plant 797 00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:50,566 had to look at that one twice. 798 00:37:50,666 --> 00:37:52,266 ♪♪ 799 00:37:52,366 --> 00:37:54,266 But how did I construct the record? 800 00:37:54,366 --> 00:37:57,526 The same way I constructed the record with Steve and Malcolm. 801 00:37:57,633 --> 00:38:00,803 ♪♪ 802 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:04,070 The records have their same root, the Moog synthesizer. 803 00:38:06,666 --> 00:38:08,666 The synthesizer is every instrument. 804 00:38:08,766 --> 00:38:10,726 It depends on how you want to use it. 805 00:38:10,833 --> 00:38:16,073 ♪♪ 806 00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:18,396 [ Cheers and applause ] 807 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,470 -The electric guitar was still the primary instrument 808 00:38:21,566 --> 00:38:23,926 of album-oriented rock. 809 00:38:24,033 --> 00:38:26,473 In the mid-1970s, that really starts to change, 810 00:38:26,566 --> 00:38:29,126 especially with the rise of disco. 811 00:38:29,233 --> 00:38:31,103 Real watershed moment 812 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,970 was when people heard, for the first time, 813 00:38:34,066 --> 00:38:37,596 Giorgio Moroder and Donna Summer, "I Feel Love." 814 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:40,730 [ Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" plays ] 815 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,830 -First, I took down a click track. 816 00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:48,903 Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, 817 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,800 and automatically the rhythm was 818 00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:54,400 ♪ Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun ♪ 819 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:58,130 Whatever the synthesizer could do. 820 00:38:58,233 --> 00:38:59,673 But I didn't have a melody, 821 00:38:59,766 --> 00:39:03,566 so I started to sing a melody on top, 822 00:39:03,666 --> 00:39:07,196 then Donna Summer came in and wrote the lyrics 823 00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:08,800 and she sang it. 824 00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,670 -♪ Ooh 825 00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,526 ♪ It's so good, it's so good, it's so good ♪ 826 00:39:14,633 --> 00:39:18,573 ♪ It's so good, it's so good 827 00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:20,826 Growing up, I wanted to have more of that, you know, 828 00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:23,903 like R&B sound, but my voice was always really kind of pure. 829 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,800 ♪ Ooh 830 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:29,470 ♪ I'm in love, I'm in love, I'm in love ♪ 831 00:39:29,566 --> 00:39:32,396 ♪ I'm in love, I'm in love 832 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:35,330 So when we started making music with the synthesizers, 833 00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:38,673 I felt at home in that kind of synthesized space. 834 00:39:38,766 --> 00:39:41,626 ♪ Oooh 835 00:39:41,733 --> 00:39:44,473 ♪ I feel love, I feel love, I feel love ♪ 836 00:39:44,566 --> 00:39:45,926 ♪ I feel love, I feel love 837 00:39:46,033 --> 00:39:48,633 I was so caught up in producing the music at the time, 838 00:39:48,733 --> 00:39:52,273 but I think in retrospect, I see the door that we opened. 839 00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:53,796 ♪ I feel 840 00:39:53,900 --> 00:40:00,170 ♪ lo-o-o-o-o-ve 841 00:40:00,266 --> 00:40:02,296 ♪ I feel love 842 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,670 -During the mix, the engineer gave me a delay in the bassline, 843 00:40:07,766 --> 00:40:10,126 and instead of doing, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, 844 00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,103 We do, duttle, duttle, duttle, duttle, duttle, duttle. 845 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,670 They'll repeat. 846 00:40:13,766 --> 00:40:18,726 And I was suddenly, I said, "This is -- this is it!" 847 00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:21,503 The reaction was absolutely fantastic and, 848 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,970 after a few months, it was number one all over the place. 849 00:40:25,066 --> 00:40:26,966 It's the most requested song of mine. 850 00:40:27,066 --> 00:40:29,226 -♪ Fallin' free, fallin' free, fallin' free ♪ 851 00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:33,773 ♪ Fallin' free, fallin' free 852 00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:36,426 ♪♪ 853 00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:39,333 -It's not something that can easily be reproduced live. 854 00:40:39,433 --> 00:40:41,873 The song is totally synthesized. 855 00:40:41,966 --> 00:40:44,866 -Even the drums are a synthesizer. 856 00:40:44,966 --> 00:40:46,666 -When people heard it, they suddenly realized 857 00:40:46,766 --> 00:40:48,496 that there were all kinds of new possibilities 858 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,030 for popular music that had nothing to do with the guitar, 859 00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:54,003 that had nothing to do even with traditional instrumentation. 860 00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:58,730 -That possibility, to make music out of technology, 861 00:40:58,833 --> 00:41:00,533 was something that had been there for a long, 862 00:41:00,633 --> 00:41:02,873 now there's just a new gizmo that we can do it with. 863 00:41:02,966 --> 00:41:04,366 Isn't that cool? 864 00:41:04,466 --> 00:41:05,566 I mean, you can trigger this and sync it up, 865 00:41:05,666 --> 00:41:07,096 and wow, let's do it. 866 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,770 There's never a kind of like a, 867 00:41:08,866 --> 00:41:10,696 "Oh, I don't think we should do that" moment. 868 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,600 [ Playing "Don't You Want Me" ] 869 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,470 -Eventually the synthesizer becomes common enough 870 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,596 for bands to brag that they had no synthesizer. 871 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,800 ♪♪ 872 00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:33,230 The synthesizer came to symbolize something not natural. 873 00:41:33,333 --> 00:41:34,873 -All through the '80s, there's not 874 00:41:34,966 --> 00:41:37,866 a really authentic-sounding record in the '80s. 875 00:41:37,966 --> 00:41:40,196 They're all highly processed. 876 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,470 -♪ Let's get physical 877 00:41:42,566 --> 00:41:44,066 ♪ Physical 878 00:41:44,166 --> 00:41:46,396 ♪ I wanna get physical 879 00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,400 -Late '70s, those horrible synthesizers, 880 00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:51,070 it's hard for me to imagine 881 00:41:51,166 --> 00:41:53,766 that that was the golden age of recording. 882 00:41:53,866 --> 00:41:55,726 -♪ Body talk 883 00:41:55,833 --> 00:41:57,973 ♪ Let's get physical 884 00:41:58,066 --> 00:41:59,066 ♪ Physical 885 00:41:59,166 --> 00:42:00,766 -I never did like synthesizers. 886 00:42:00,866 --> 00:42:04,226 No talent in a drum machine, but it was cutting a lot 887 00:42:04,333 --> 00:42:06,833 of musicians out of work, the synthesizer. 888 00:42:06,933 --> 00:42:09,933 -Everything was determined by this regular beat. 889 00:42:10,033 --> 00:42:13,003 Synthesizers, get on your bike; get out of here. 890 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,600 [ Ethereal synthesizer plays ] 891 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,470 -I was in Cologne airport and I was thinking 892 00:42:24,566 --> 00:42:26,696 if you're going to have music, what would be 893 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,700 the right kind of music for a place like this? 894 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,870 It has to be non-narrative. 895 00:42:31,966 --> 00:42:33,426 It can't have beginning, middle, and end. 896 00:42:33,533 --> 00:42:36,073 It should be like a river, where there's 897 00:42:36,166 --> 00:42:38,596 a sort of consistency to the object itself, 898 00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:43,530 but it's never exactly the same from one moment to the next. 899 00:42:43,633 --> 00:42:46,173 I studied painting, not music, 900 00:42:46,266 --> 00:42:49,826 and I realized when I was quite young 901 00:42:49,933 --> 00:42:52,103 that the most interesting form of painting 902 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,530 that you could do now is with sound. 903 00:42:54,633 --> 00:42:58,433 [ Ethereal synthesizer continues ] 904 00:42:58,533 --> 00:43:01,173 With the synthesizer, we can make a sound 905 00:43:01,266 --> 00:43:03,326 that nobody's ever heard before. 906 00:43:03,433 --> 00:43:05,533 It's a little bit like if you went to a painter 907 00:43:05,633 --> 00:43:09,073 and said, "I know you've got your box of paints there, 908 00:43:09,166 --> 00:43:10,896 and you've got the seven colors of the spectrum, 909 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,430 but here's another 4,000 colors that you've never seen before." 910 00:43:15,533 --> 00:43:17,773 It's this new form that we still call music, 911 00:43:17,866 --> 00:43:19,266 but we should call something else. 912 00:43:19,366 --> 00:43:21,896 ♪♪ 913 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,700 -Doing things in an electronic way, 914 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,430 in a funny way it's more personal, 915 00:43:25,533 --> 00:43:29,173 because you have to create the sound from scratch. 916 00:43:29,266 --> 00:43:31,026 It's not just writing the note. 917 00:43:31,133 --> 00:43:34,573 You're actually creating the sound of the note from scratch. 918 00:43:34,666 --> 00:43:38,526 [ Suspenseful music climbs ] 919 00:43:39,866 --> 00:43:42,366 In the Batman movie "Dark Knight," 920 00:43:42,466 --> 00:43:45,066 Batman inhabits a very particular world. 921 00:43:45,166 --> 00:43:46,996 I thought, wouldn't it be interesting 922 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:50,030 to make a sonic world for this character? 923 00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:53,733 So I started by creating a vocabulary of sounds 924 00:43:53,833 --> 00:43:55,173 electronically. 925 00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:58,926 So now on the keyboard, I can, you know, brrr, you know. 926 00:43:59,033 --> 00:44:00,533 They're -- They're indescribable. 927 00:44:00,633 --> 00:44:03,503 It's not like, you know, oh, here's a violin sound. 928 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,370 It's, you know, it's some abstract thing. 929 00:44:05,466 --> 00:44:07,096 [ Suspenseful music climbs ] 930 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,930 We tried to come up with a very iconic sound 931 00:44:15,033 --> 00:44:16,633 right at the beginning of the movie, 932 00:44:16,733 --> 00:44:18,173 which is this sort of [Whooshes] 933 00:44:18,266 --> 00:44:20,396 you know, like a giant flapping of the wings. 934 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,930 [ Wings rustling ] 935 00:44:24,033 --> 00:44:27,173 And slowly, during that process, I actually start hearing 936 00:44:27,266 --> 00:44:30,066 little bits of tune, or little motifs, et cetera. 937 00:44:30,166 --> 00:44:33,266 [ Synthesizer plays ] 938 00:44:33,366 --> 00:44:36,466 There's a lot of snobbery in classical music, 939 00:44:36,566 --> 00:44:38,166 but my dad was an inventor. 940 00:44:38,266 --> 00:44:41,326 I grew up with technology and I saw 941 00:44:41,433 --> 00:44:44,403 all musical instruments as pieces of technology, 942 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:48,100 so for me, anything that made a decent noise 943 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,630 was a musical instrument, 944 00:44:49,733 --> 00:44:52,073 and should be incorporated into the orchestra. 945 00:44:52,166 --> 00:44:56,126 [ Note drones ] 946 00:44:56,233 --> 00:44:58,503 I sort of know what I want to say with the scene, 947 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,030 but I usually can't find the notes straightaway, so. 948 00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:03,973 The reason I regret not going to music school 949 00:45:04,066 --> 00:45:05,626 is just because whenever I get stuck, 950 00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:07,573 I wish I had a bit of Beethoven in the drawer, 951 00:45:07,666 --> 00:45:10,796 or you know, a bit of Mozart to go and steal from. 952 00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,930 And, what happens is I don't have that. 953 00:45:13,033 --> 00:45:15,973 So, if I'm stuck, I'd better come up with something myself. 954 00:45:16,066 --> 00:45:19,896 That's why hours and hours and hours get spent in this room 955 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,870 with me torturing this poor computer. 956 00:45:22,966 --> 00:45:24,866 Let me have one more go. 957 00:45:24,966 --> 00:45:27,196 ♪♪ 958 00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:31,300 The way Hollywood operates is they make these movies 959 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,230 and they cost hundreds of millions of dollars 960 00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:35,233 and basically, at the end of the day, 961 00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:37,373 they're waiting for me to complete the music 962 00:45:37,466 --> 00:45:40,796 and I'm doing it on any old PC that you can buy 963 00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:45,030 for, like, $10.50 and on a piece of software, 964 00:45:45,133 --> 00:45:47,503 you know, that's probably another $20. 965 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,300 So kids, if you want to try this at home, knock yourselves out. 966 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,700 [ Electronic music plays ] 967 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,600 -I make all my records in hotel rooms pretty much, 968 00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:59,000 and airplanes, you know, or on car rides. 969 00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,670 I've made records in car rides, you know? 970 00:46:00,766 --> 00:46:03,196 Especially when you have, you know, deadlines. 971 00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:08,230 [ Skrillex's "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" plays ] 972 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,270 -The synthesizer, the laptop, 973 00:46:12,366 --> 00:46:14,396 they're all part of the same world. 974 00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:18,300 The laptop, especially, is the folk instrument of our time. 975 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,430 -Our world is just -- is just a high-tech world. 976 00:46:21,533 --> 00:46:23,633 You know, we are the Internet generation. 977 00:46:23,733 --> 00:46:27,103 We are fast-paced. We need the laptops. 978 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,130 And yeah, we're not great on guitars, 979 00:46:29,233 --> 00:46:32,633 but we're great with our hands, and we still make the melodies. 980 00:46:32,733 --> 00:46:35,903 ♪♪ 981 00:46:39,833 --> 00:46:42,133 -What is EDM? Electronic Dance Music. 982 00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:45,473 It is our new folk music, EDM. 983 00:46:45,566 --> 00:46:47,226 -Yes! Oh, my God! 984 00:46:47,333 --> 00:46:49,573 It has nothing to do with the past. 985 00:46:49,666 --> 00:46:50,926 It has to do with creating sounds 986 00:46:51,033 --> 00:46:54,073 out of space that never existed before. 987 00:46:54,166 --> 00:46:56,426 Sequences and sounds from a new place. 988 00:46:56,533 --> 00:46:58,973 We're like galactic travelers. 989 00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:00,926 And we're on a journey. 990 00:47:01,033 --> 00:47:04,633 ♪♪ 991 00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:11,630 -In an era where everything is being transformed by technology, 992 00:47:11,733 --> 00:47:14,473 one of the most exciting aspects 993 00:47:14,566 --> 00:47:19,566 of being original is reinventing what's old. 994 00:47:19,666 --> 00:47:23,526 [ Blues play ] 995 00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:29,926 -Well, we knew we wanted to get out of town to make a record. 996 00:47:30,033 --> 00:47:32,233 -We wanted to go to a classic studio, 997 00:47:32,333 --> 00:47:34,973 a place that had history. 998 00:47:35,066 --> 00:47:37,126 We decided to go to Muscle Shoals, 999 00:47:37,233 --> 00:47:41,033 and we got to the studio, and it was pretty much just -- 1000 00:47:41,133 --> 00:47:44,033 it was empty. No console, really. Nothing worked. 1001 00:47:44,133 --> 00:47:46,033 All the wall treatment that used to be there 1002 00:47:46,133 --> 00:47:48,333 in the '60s and '70s was gone. 1003 00:47:48,433 --> 00:47:49,833 [ Chuckles ] 1004 00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:51,803 You know, my dream of, like, recording 1005 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:56,170 in this period-piece studio, like, vanished immediately. 1006 00:47:56,266 --> 00:47:59,166 But we had Mark Neill, and he was the engineer. 1007 00:47:59,266 --> 00:48:02,626 -So Mark drove his preamps, microphones. 1008 00:48:02,733 --> 00:48:05,803 Dan and I drove down from Akron and brought a lot of gear. 1009 00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:07,300 -And so we set up all our stuff. 1010 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,200 -No Pro Tools, 12-channel desk. 1011 00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,170 -And it was almost like we were recording in the basement again, 1012 00:48:12,266 --> 00:48:14,896 in a room that wasn't really acoustically correct. 1013 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,270 But Mark understood all these old records that we loved 1014 00:48:18,366 --> 00:48:20,596 and why they sounded so good -- not why they sounded old, 1015 00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:24,370 but why they sounded really good and why the drums soundedhuge, 1016 00:48:24,466 --> 00:48:27,126 but they were mono, but there were just like two mics. 1017 00:48:27,233 --> 00:48:31,873 [ Drum set plays ] 1018 00:48:31,966 --> 00:48:34,496 And we learned that when we recorded with Mark. 1019 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,730 ♪♪ 1020 00:48:36,833 --> 00:48:39,433 We called our managing assistant, and we were like, 1021 00:48:39,533 --> 00:48:41,733 "We need a harpsichord, now." 1022 00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:45,900 And he found us, like, 1023 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,200 a student model and he drove it down from Nashville. 1024 00:48:51,666 --> 00:48:54,096 Started playing a little line. 1025 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,330 ♪ Do do-do do 1026 00:48:55,433 --> 00:48:56,673 ♪ Do do-do do 1027 00:48:56,766 --> 00:48:57,996 ♪ Do do do-do do 1028 00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:01,030 Pat started playing, and it just immediately sounded 1029 00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:02,673 fun and interesting. 1030 00:49:02,766 --> 00:49:05,966 ♪♪ 1031 00:49:06,066 --> 00:49:07,266 Pat got on the mellotron 1032 00:49:07,366 --> 00:49:09,296 and plugged in like 20 guitar pedals to it. 1033 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,970 -♪ Whoa-oa-oa 1034 00:49:12,066 --> 00:49:15,066 -I had partial lyrics to "Too Afraid To Love You." 1035 00:49:15,166 --> 00:49:18,796 ♪♪ 1036 00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:22,730 Figured out the chords of the song. 1037 00:49:22,833 --> 00:49:24,673 And we just started recording it. 1038 00:49:24,766 --> 00:49:28,426 -♪ My gears, they grind 1039 00:49:28,533 --> 00:49:30,403 ♪ More each day 1040 00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:32,730 ♪ And I feel like 1041 00:49:32,833 --> 00:49:37,833 ♪ They're gonna grind away 1042 00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:40,333 And Mark got Pat to play Mark's drums. 1043 00:49:40,433 --> 00:49:43,273 He's got this amazing-sounding old Gretsch kit 1044 00:49:43,366 --> 00:49:45,926 that just resonates beautifully. 1045 00:49:46,033 --> 00:49:48,973 -♪ They drive me wild 1046 00:49:49,066 --> 00:49:50,466 ♪ They're neverending 1047 00:49:50,566 --> 00:49:52,826 ♪ Mile after mile 1048 00:49:52,933 --> 00:49:56,903 -And because it sounded so good, Pat just played lighter 1049 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,270 and it just -- His playing sounded so fluid 1050 00:49:59,366 --> 00:50:00,496 throughout the whole record. 1051 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,600 ♪ To love you 1052 00:50:10,666 --> 00:50:13,366 ♪♪ 1053 00:50:17,433 --> 00:50:20,573 ♪ It's heaven on Earth 1054 00:50:20,666 --> 00:50:24,366 ♪ It's in her embrace 1055 00:50:24,466 --> 00:50:25,826 ♪ Her gentle touch 1056 00:50:25,933 --> 00:50:28,033 ♪ And her smiling face 1057 00:50:28,133 --> 00:50:29,803 -We didn't distort the tracks 1058 00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:31,770 while we were recording for the first time. 1059 00:50:31,866 --> 00:50:34,696 That was gonna be something that was approached in mixing. 1060 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,670 -It was Tchad Blake, and the only instruction was 1061 00:50:37,766 --> 00:50:42,896 I sent him an e-mail that was, "Do whatever you want, have fun, 1062 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,700 and make it sound really effed up." 1063 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,170 ♪♪ 1064 00:50:47,266 --> 00:50:50,826 -♪ I just don't know what to do ♪ 1065 00:50:50,933 --> 00:50:54,233 ♪ I'm too afraid to love you 1066 00:50:54,333 --> 00:50:56,573 -Everything is early days. 1067 00:50:56,666 --> 00:50:58,796 I mean, we've been doing sound recording 1068 00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:00,900 for just over 100 years. 1069 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,270 And people have been building drums for thousands. 1070 00:51:05,366 --> 00:51:08,426 If you look at a grand piano, what an incredible piece 1071 00:51:08,533 --> 00:51:11,433 of thinking and they didn't do it overnight. 1072 00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:13,733 And I think the same goes for computers. 1073 00:51:13,833 --> 00:51:15,873 We're at the beginning of this. 1074 00:51:15,966 --> 00:51:22,266 -The technology allowed us to create new musical experiences. 1075 00:51:22,366 --> 00:51:25,126 It allowed us our liberty, 1076 00:51:25,233 --> 00:51:28,303 and it's gonna continue to move us forward. 1077 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,200 We have to embrace change and celebrate it. 1078 00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:32,800 [ The Black Keys's "Lonely Boy" plays ] 1079 00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:33,930 -Come on! 1080 00:51:34,033 --> 00:51:36,333 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh 1081 00:51:36,433 --> 00:51:39,003 ♪ I got a love that keeps me waitin' ♪ 1082 00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:41,300 ♪ Oh, oh, oh 1083 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,970 ♪ I got a love that keeps me waitin' ♪ 1084 00:51:44,066 --> 00:51:46,926 ♪ I'm a lonely boy 1085 00:51:47,033 --> 00:51:49,133 ♪ I'm a lonely boy 1086 00:51:49,233 --> 00:51:51,703 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh 1087 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,370 ♪ I got a love that keeps me waitin' ♪ 1088 00:51:54,466 --> 00:51:56,926 [ Music fades ] 1089 00:51:57,033 --> 00:52:00,533 [ Cheers and applause ] 1090 00:52:00,633 --> 00:52:03,733 ♪♪ 1091 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,470 -"Soundbreaking" is available on DVD. 1092 00:52:13,566 --> 00:52:15,696 The companion book is also available. 1093 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,130 To order, visit shopPBS.org or call 1-800-PLAY-PBS. 1094 00:52:20,233 --> 00:52:23,133 ♪♪ 78360

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