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Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ♪ 9 00:00:23,733 --> 00:00:27,303 ♪ We hope you will enjoy the show ♪ 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,170 -And I remember we just looked at each other, "...me!" 11 00:00:32,266 --> 00:00:35,266 -The way George Martin had musically put that together, 12 00:00:35,366 --> 00:00:38,026 I thought, "Where do we go from here?" 13 00:00:38,133 --> 00:00:39,233 -All right here we go. -Okay, Richard? 14 00:00:39,333 --> 00:00:40,403 -Yeah... [ Speaks indistinctly ] 15 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:42,430 -It's the birth of a new art form. 16 00:00:42,533 --> 00:00:46,173 They were starting to make music that you couldn't actually play. 17 00:00:46,266 --> 00:00:49,796 It couldn't exist outside of a recording studio. 18 00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:51,230 -They did it first. 19 00:00:51,333 --> 00:00:54,973 It revolutionized the way that people worked in studios. 20 00:00:55,066 --> 00:00:57,166 You could say that from then on, it's like the rule book's 21 00:00:57,266 --> 00:00:59,866 out the window because you're no longer trying to represent 22 00:00:59,966 --> 00:01:01,066 something as it was. 23 00:01:01,166 --> 00:01:02,826 -♪ I 24 00:01:02,933 --> 00:01:06,633 ♪ I love the colorful clothes she wears ♪ 25 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:13,073 ♪ And the way the sunlight plays upon her hair ♪ 26 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:16,626 ♪ I hear the sound of a... 27 00:01:16,733 --> 00:01:20,473 -In the '60s, multitrack recording began to redefine 28 00:01:20,566 --> 00:01:22,396 what music could be 29 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:26,370 and turned the studio into a sonic laboratory. 30 00:01:26,466 --> 00:01:29,126 -♪ I'm picking up good vibrations ♪ 31 00:01:29,233 --> 00:01:32,403 ♪ She's giving me excitations 32 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:34,500 -It was like a strange place, 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,470 full of like, crazy scientists, 34 00:01:37,566 --> 00:01:40,196 electricians, madmen. 35 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:42,800 -Just having the time to experiment in the studio 36 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:44,830 was a radical change. 37 00:01:44,933 --> 00:01:47,233 90 hours working on one song. 38 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:50,573 Everyone thought that was insanity. 39 00:01:50,666 --> 00:01:53,196 -As recording technology evolved, 40 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:56,870 a sense of limitless possibility led some bands astray. 41 00:01:56,966 --> 00:01:58,296 -It reached the point where, 42 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,030 the ability to stay in the studio as long as you want 43 00:02:00,133 --> 00:02:02,233 and spend as much money as you want, 44 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:05,273 may not necessarily have been an entirely good thing. 45 00:02:05,366 --> 00:02:07,796 [ Radiohead's "Bodysnatchers" playing ] 46 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:09,300 -You know, you can produce a band 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,100 that will play their songs perfectly in a room, 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,870 and your job as a producer will be to recreate that. 49 00:02:14,966 --> 00:02:17,626 -♪ It is the 21st century 50 00:02:17,733 --> 00:02:20,673 ♪ It is the 21st century ♪ 51 00:02:20,766 --> 00:02:22,526 ♪ You can fight like a dog 52 00:02:22,633 --> 00:02:26,633 -Or you can use the studio as a musical instrument. 53 00:02:26,733 --> 00:02:28,033 That's an art form. 54 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:30,803 ♪ 55 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:32,300 ♪ I've seen it coming 56 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,100 -You know, anything is possible, anything is right. 57 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,800 And that's what's exciting. 58 00:02:36,900 --> 00:02:40,700 ♪ 59 00:02:43,466 --> 00:02:45,596 ♪ 60 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:47,870 -Okay, then. Okay. 61 00:02:47,966 --> 00:02:51,896 -It'll be an F for you. 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,270 -Here we go. 63 00:02:53,366 --> 00:02:55,666 Just one more time. 64 00:02:55,766 --> 00:02:57,866 -Right after I say, "Are you sure?" 65 00:02:57,966 --> 00:02:59,066 Da da da -- yeah. 66 00:02:59,166 --> 00:03:00,396 -Oh. 67 00:03:02,433 --> 00:03:04,633 -Hal, here's how I want to do it. Takes like this. 68 00:03:04,733 --> 00:03:06,773 -All right, it's fun time. Fun time. 69 00:03:06,866 --> 00:03:08,196 -Here we go. 70 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:12,300 -Oh, really? -17, take one. 71 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,130 -This will be the keeper. -[Laughs] 72 00:03:14,233 --> 00:03:17,473 ♪ 73 00:03:23,666 --> 00:03:25,696 ♪ 74 00:03:27,866 --> 00:03:31,696 [ Boston's "More Than A Feeling" playing ] 75 00:03:36,433 --> 00:03:41,033 -♪ I looked out this morning, and the sun was gone ♪ 76 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:45,203 ♪ Turned on some music to start my day ♪ 77 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:49,200 -In 1976, a band named Boston 78 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:52,200 had a hit single called "More Than a Feeling." 79 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:56,370 What no one knew was that Boston really wasn't a band at all. 80 00:03:56,466 --> 00:03:57,726 ♪ 81 00:03:57,833 --> 00:04:01,903 -Boston was a result of me tinkering in a basement 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,670 with my multitrack recording studio. 83 00:04:04,766 --> 00:04:06,796 -♪ It's more than a feeling 84 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:08,230 -♪ More than a feeling 85 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:11,603 -♪ When I hear that old song they used to play ♪ 86 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:13,800 -♪ More than a feeling 87 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:17,200 -It was a really personal endeavor. 88 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:20,070 I worked in my own space, my own time, 89 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:22,726 put a rhythm guitar part on, and then another one, 90 00:04:22,833 --> 00:04:24,903 and then a bass track, keyboards. 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,930 And then I called Brad Delp to see if he wanted 92 00:04:28,033 --> 00:04:30,703 to sing the vocals, which, thankfully, he did. 93 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,870 -♪ Ah 94 00:04:33,966 --> 00:04:35,926 ♪ ah 95 00:04:36,033 --> 00:04:37,033 ♪ 96 00:04:37,133 --> 00:04:39,203 -So I basically threw a band together 97 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:44,300 to be able to play the songs live. 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Not only didn't the record company -- 99 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:49,400 not only were they not aware 100 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:52,170 that I was making a record in my basement, 101 00:04:52,266 --> 00:04:54,396 but they never became aware that the record 102 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:56,430 that they were selling millions of copies of 103 00:04:56,533 --> 00:04:58,003 was made in a basement. 104 00:04:58,100 --> 00:05:00,070 ♪ 105 00:05:00,166 --> 00:05:02,026 Multitracking allowed you 106 00:05:02,133 --> 00:05:05,873 to put music together and change it. 107 00:05:05,966 --> 00:05:09,326 And the reason it was cool is because this gave you basically 108 00:05:09,433 --> 00:05:11,203 a whole new medium. 109 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:13,470 At one point, someone explained to me, 110 00:05:13,566 --> 00:05:16,326 older than I was, that this whole process 111 00:05:16,433 --> 00:05:19,503 of recording on multitrack recorders 112 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,400 was invented by this guy Les Paul 113 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:23,770 and I said, "Wow, what a coincidence, 114 00:05:23,866 --> 00:05:26,796 there's a guitar that's named a Les Paul." 115 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:28,530 And he says, "Yeah, there's a good reason for that." 116 00:05:28,633 --> 00:05:31,703 ♪ 117 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,730 -Les Paul not only designed some guitars that made 118 00:05:34,833 --> 00:05:35,973 new and incredible sounds, 119 00:05:36,066 --> 00:05:38,926 but had this vision for recording studios. 120 00:05:39,033 --> 00:05:41,233 He invented multitrack recording. 121 00:05:41,333 --> 00:05:44,003 I mean that -- that changed everything. 122 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:47,130 [ playing "How High the Moon" ] 123 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:49,173 -♪ Somewhere there's music 124 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:51,396 ♪ How faint the tune 125 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:52,970 ♪ Somewhere there's heaven 126 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:54,796 ♪ How high the moon 127 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:58,970 -The records I heard by Les Paul and Mary Ford, in the '50s, 128 00:05:59,066 --> 00:06:02,226 I was even aware then that -- without any knowledge of, um, 129 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:03,473 of recording techniques, 130 00:06:03,566 --> 00:06:06,296 that they were doing something revolutionary. 131 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,500 -Uh, you turn the tape machines on. 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,100 They're just a standard, regular, uh, Ampex tape machine. 133 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,370 -Mm-hmm. 134 00:06:14,466 --> 00:06:16,726 As I recall, there are, uh, about a dozen 135 00:06:16,833 --> 00:06:18,403 or 20 voices come in there. 136 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:20,030 Now, where -- whose are the voices? 137 00:06:20,133 --> 00:06:21,233 -That's Mary. 138 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:23,073 -You mean they're all Mary's voices? 139 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:26,866 -♪ Somewhere there's music, how faint the tune ♪ 140 00:06:26,966 --> 00:06:31,696 ♪ Somewhere there's heaven, how high the moon ♪ 141 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,930 Now, I'll add a tenor part to that. 142 00:06:34,033 --> 00:06:36,473 -All right. -Wait a minute. 143 00:06:36,566 --> 00:06:38,266 -[ voices doubled, harmonizing ] ♪ Somewhere there's music 144 00:06:38,366 --> 00:06:40,366 ♪ How faint the tune 145 00:06:40,466 --> 00:06:45,566 ♪ Somewhere there's heaven, how high the moon ♪ 146 00:06:45,666 --> 00:06:47,266 -Well, how long can this go on without getting awfully confused 147 00:06:47,366 --> 00:06:48,466 in your head? 148 00:06:48,566 --> 00:06:50,226 -[ Laughs ] It's pretty confusing. 149 00:06:50,333 --> 00:06:51,633 -Or being cued by your husband? 150 00:06:51,733 --> 00:06:53,333 -Well, uh, would you like to hear the third part? 151 00:06:53,433 --> 00:06:54,773 -Yes. 152 00:06:54,866 --> 00:06:57,096 -♪ Somewhere there's music, how faint the tune ♪ 153 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,370 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh 154 00:06:59,466 --> 00:07:02,926 ♪ Somewhere there's heaven, how high the moon ♪ 155 00:07:03,033 --> 00:07:06,273 ♪ 156 00:07:06,366 --> 00:07:11,466 ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah ♪ 157 00:07:11,566 --> 00:07:12,666 -Les Paul, I mean, 158 00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:15,626 he made sounds no one had ever heard before. 159 00:07:15,733 --> 00:07:17,233 I remember my mom saying that 160 00:07:17,333 --> 00:07:20,333 you shouldn't listen to this music. It's fake. 161 00:07:20,433 --> 00:07:22,933 She said, "It's one guy tricking us." 162 00:07:23,033 --> 00:07:25,773 So I said, "That's it! That's the music for me." 163 00:07:25,866 --> 00:07:28,726 Because it enabled me to be rebellious, you know, as well. 164 00:07:28,833 --> 00:07:30,973 And I enjoyed the sound. 165 00:07:31,066 --> 00:07:32,396 I don't think you can beat that. 166 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:33,830 I mean the way that those records sound, 167 00:07:33,933 --> 00:07:35,803 is it's still exciting. 168 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:41,070 -♪ How high the moon 169 00:07:41,166 --> 00:07:42,426 [ Song ends ] 170 00:07:42,533 --> 00:07:44,533 [ Applause ] 171 00:07:44,633 --> 00:07:47,033 [ Beeping ] -Now come on. Give it to me, 172 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:49,173 Let me hear that, the whistle and the sax, once more, ready? 173 00:07:49,266 --> 00:07:50,496 That's right. 174 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,500 ♪ 175 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,670 -Before magnetic tape, an artist would come into the studio 176 00:07:56,766 --> 00:07:59,826 and they would be recorded live. 177 00:07:59,933 --> 00:08:02,073 What they would do is literally etch the grooves 178 00:08:02,166 --> 00:08:06,766 into the disc as the session was being recorded. 179 00:08:06,866 --> 00:08:10,096 You had to start from the beginning and go to the end. 180 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,900 If you made any mistakes, 181 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,030 too bad, or you had to start over. 182 00:08:14,133 --> 00:08:17,473 ♪ 183 00:08:20,833 --> 00:08:24,103 Magnetic tape -- it just changed music completely. 184 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,630 It gave you the possibility to record in fidelity that was 185 00:08:27,733 --> 00:08:29,933 better than anyone had ever even come close to, 186 00:08:30,033 --> 00:08:31,773 so you can make a more accurate document. 187 00:08:31,866 --> 00:08:34,766 At the same time, it lets you manipulate sounds, 188 00:08:34,866 --> 00:08:36,166 so it didn't sound lifelike at all 189 00:08:36,266 --> 00:08:38,396 because now you can edit. 190 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:42,030 You can overdub, you could cut and splice. 191 00:08:42,133 --> 00:08:43,773 Once the technology came out, 192 00:08:43,866 --> 00:08:46,666 it very quickly became the standard format. 193 00:08:46,766 --> 00:08:48,926 ♪ 194 00:08:49,033 --> 00:08:51,703 [ Music changes ] 195 00:08:55,266 --> 00:08:57,026 -When I walked into Abbey Road Studios 196 00:08:57,133 --> 00:08:59,603 for the first time in 1950, 197 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:03,900 I was astonished at how primitive it was. 198 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:09,230 They were still recording on discs that were cut by a lathe. 199 00:09:09,333 --> 00:09:13,103 From 1950 on, I just worked away and I had various ideas. 200 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,600 I was experimenting with the newfangled tape, 201 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:22,470 and I was able to learn what you could do to manipulate sound. 202 00:09:22,566 --> 00:09:24,626 You can cut, you can edit. 203 00:09:24,733 --> 00:09:27,403 Obviously, you can slow down or speed up your tape. 204 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:29,430 You can put in backwards stuff. 205 00:09:29,533 --> 00:09:31,333 And this is the kind of thing you can do on recording that you 206 00:09:31,433 --> 00:09:32,803 obviously couldn't possibly do live, 207 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:35,470 because it is, in fact, making up music as you go along. 208 00:09:35,566 --> 00:09:36,996 [ Click ] 209 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:39,770 -Fleet 1, uh, take 6. 210 00:09:39,866 --> 00:09:42,096 -How could I dance? She'll really dance. 211 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,500 I'll never dance. 212 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,900 ♪ 213 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,630 -When I first met The Beatles, 214 00:09:46,733 --> 00:09:49,403 I had so little time with them in the studio because 215 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:53,330 they were incredibly busy all the time. 216 00:09:53,433 --> 00:09:56,133 I would have maybe a day and a half here, 217 00:09:56,233 --> 00:09:58,373 and a couple of days there. 218 00:09:58,466 --> 00:10:00,866 As a result of that, the songs that they produced, 219 00:10:00,966 --> 00:10:05,066 which were marvelous, were still fairly basic. 220 00:10:05,166 --> 00:10:06,566 -2, 3, 4... 221 00:10:06,666 --> 00:10:11,026 [ The Beatles's "I Saw Her Standing There" playing ] 222 00:10:11,133 --> 00:10:13,933 -♪ Well, she was just 17 223 00:10:14,033 --> 00:10:16,273 -The first album only took us 12 hours. 224 00:10:16,366 --> 00:10:18,166 I mean, we all knew those songs so well 225 00:10:18,266 --> 00:10:20,096 because that was our live show. 226 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,900 We were just in there doing the gig, really. 227 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,370 -♪ So how could I dance with another? ♪ 228 00:10:27,466 --> 00:10:28,596 ♪ Oh 229 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:32,500 ♪ When I saw her standing there ♪ 230 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,530 ♪ 231 00:10:34,633 --> 00:10:37,973 -The old approach was that the band rehearsed, 232 00:10:38,066 --> 00:10:39,326 went into the studio, 233 00:10:39,433 --> 00:10:41,573 stood in front of some microphones and played them. 234 00:10:41,666 --> 00:10:45,166 And the job of the producer was maybe to mix them well 235 00:10:45,266 --> 00:10:47,966 or put a bit of reverb or echo on them. 236 00:10:48,066 --> 00:10:50,796 But essentially the music wasn't transformed. 237 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:53,570 -♪ Whoo, and I saw her... 238 00:10:53,666 --> 00:10:57,996 -The Beatles were over that phase by about 1966. 239 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:00,530 With the help of George Martin, they were starting to 240 00:11:00,633 --> 00:11:03,133 make music that you couldn't actually play. 241 00:11:03,233 --> 00:11:06,533 It couldn't exist outside of a recording studio. 242 00:11:06,633 --> 00:11:08,973 It's very difficult to imagine what The Beatles would have 243 00:11:09,066 --> 00:11:11,026 sounded like without George Martin. 244 00:11:11,133 --> 00:11:15,673 [ The Beatles's "Rain" playing ] 245 00:11:15,766 --> 00:11:18,866 What's wonderful about this moment in time 246 00:11:18,966 --> 00:11:23,226 is that 4-track recording opened up the possibilities 247 00:11:23,333 --> 00:11:26,173 to use the studio in the creative palette. 248 00:11:26,266 --> 00:11:32,166 So The Beatles's transition from a garage band group 249 00:11:32,266 --> 00:11:33,666 that's standing around the mic, 250 00:11:33,766 --> 00:11:35,826 playing and singing "Please Please Me" 251 00:11:35,933 --> 00:11:40,603 and "I Saw Her Standing There," into a decisive recording group. 252 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:41,700 -♪ Rain 253 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,230 ♪ 254 00:11:48,466 --> 00:11:50,796 ♪ I don't mind 255 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:54,070 ♪ 256 00:11:54,166 --> 00:12:01,526 ♪ Shine 257 00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:03,573 ♪ The weather's fine 258 00:12:03,666 --> 00:12:09,826 -They start to use technology to create sounds and sonic textures 259 00:12:09,933 --> 00:12:12,873 that had never been heard in rock music. 260 00:12:12,966 --> 00:12:14,466 -The Beatles revolutionized 261 00:12:14,566 --> 00:12:16,766 the way that people worked in studios. 262 00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:18,366 You know, on "Rain," 263 00:12:18,466 --> 00:12:20,166 it's the first time there's anything backwards on a record. 264 00:12:20,266 --> 00:12:22,026 And you can say that, like, from that moment on, 265 00:12:22,133 --> 00:12:24,173 it's like, oh, the rule book's out the window 266 00:12:24,266 --> 00:12:25,496 because you're no longer trying 267 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,770 to represent something as it was. 268 00:12:27,866 --> 00:12:30,926 You're...you're trying to break it, 269 00:12:31,033 --> 00:12:32,703 break your perception of this band, you know, 270 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,400 there's this band playing in a room. 271 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:37,530 ♪ 272 00:12:43,266 --> 00:12:45,966 [ "Rain" plays backwards ] 273 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:54,830 It's more fun in the record if there's a few sounds that you 274 00:12:54,933 --> 00:12:56,303 don't really know what they are, 275 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,070 and really they're just instruments, 276 00:12:58,166 --> 00:12:59,166 only something happens on here. 277 00:12:59,266 --> 00:13:00,296 You know, I couldn't tell you what, 278 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,500 'cause we have a special man 279 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,670 who sits here and goes like this. 280 00:13:03,766 --> 00:13:07,626 And the guitar turns into a piano or something, you know. 281 00:13:07,733 --> 00:13:09,733 And then you may say, "Why don't you use a piano?" 282 00:13:09,833 --> 00:13:11,803 Because the piano sounds like a guitar. 283 00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:14,530 [ The Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin'" plays] 284 00:13:14,633 --> 00:13:16,973 -♪ Well, my temperature's rising ♪ 285 00:13:17,066 --> 00:13:18,426 ♪ Got my feet on the floor 286 00:13:18,533 --> 00:13:21,433 ♪ Crazy people rocking 'cause they want some more ♪ 287 00:13:21,533 --> 00:13:25,073 -We were all on this ship in the '60s, our generation, 288 00:13:25,166 --> 00:13:28,596 and we were part of it and we went somewhere. 289 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:31,900 -♪ So glad you made it 290 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,300 ♪ So glad you... 291 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,370 -There was a great upsurge of energy and consciousness. 292 00:13:38,466 --> 00:13:41,726 And so there was a lot of excitement on the street. 293 00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:45,403 There was a lot of people who were all trying to go on 294 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:47,200 the same trip together. 295 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:50,600 ♪ 296 00:13:50,700 --> 00:13:54,330 -On "Revolver," The Beatles wanted to make the music that 297 00:13:54,433 --> 00:13:56,833 was going on in their heads. 298 00:13:56,933 --> 00:14:01,073 The first song they worked on was a song of John's. 299 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:03,826 It had the mysterious title "Mark I," 300 00:14:03,933 --> 00:14:07,273 which of course becomes "Tomorrow Never Knows." 301 00:14:07,366 --> 00:14:10,526 -That's me in my Tibetan Book of the Dead period. 302 00:14:10,633 --> 00:14:12,533 I gave it a throwaway title because I was a bit 303 00:14:12,633 --> 00:14:15,173 self-conscious about the lyrics of "Tomorrow Never Knows," 304 00:14:15,266 --> 00:14:17,526 so I took one of Ringo's malapropisms, 305 00:14:17,633 --> 00:14:20,873 which was like "Hard Day's Night." 306 00:14:20,966 --> 00:14:23,196 -"Tomorrow Never Knows," that's a song 307 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:27,400 that pretty vividly depicts what you're hearing in your head 308 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:30,770 when you consume some psychedelics. 309 00:14:30,866 --> 00:14:35,726 The Beatles laid that out for everybody to hear. 310 00:14:35,833 --> 00:14:38,203 -"Tomorrow Never Knows" was a very weird song. 311 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:40,900 The tune had virtually no harmonies, 312 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,570 it was based on a continuous drone of sound. 313 00:14:44,666 --> 00:14:49,626 [ "Tomorrow Never Knows" playing ] 314 00:14:49,733 --> 00:14:51,633 -"Tomorrow Never Knows" started with a backing track, 315 00:14:51,733 --> 00:14:54,473 recorded here at Abbey Road studios. 316 00:14:54,566 --> 00:14:56,096 That's Paul on bass and Ringo on drums, 317 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,870 creating a sort of loopy, mesmeric effect. 318 00:14:59,966 --> 00:15:04,166 ♪ 319 00:15:04,266 --> 00:15:08,326 To this, John added his vocal, with George playing tambura. 320 00:15:08,433 --> 00:15:09,803 -♪ Turn off your mind 321 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:14,900 ♪ Relax and float downstream 322 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,700 ♪ It is not dying 323 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,730 ♪ It is not dying 324 00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:27,473 -Late in the song, John's voice gets very unusual-sounding, 325 00:15:27,566 --> 00:15:29,726 especially at the time it was. 326 00:15:29,833 --> 00:15:34,633 -John wanted to sound like the Dalai Lama chanting 327 00:15:34,733 --> 00:15:37,033 from the top of a mountain. 328 00:15:37,133 --> 00:15:40,303 And he suggested that the way that they record that would be 329 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,900 to put him in a harness, 330 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,330 to hoist him high above the studio, 331 00:15:44,433 --> 00:15:47,533 give him a shove, and he'd -- 332 00:15:47,633 --> 00:15:49,833 he'd sing every time he came around, 333 00:15:49,933 --> 00:15:52,333 the mic would capture a few beats of it. 334 00:15:52,433 --> 00:15:55,603 -Which wasn't the most practical idea. 335 00:15:55,700 --> 00:15:59,470 But the engineer, Geoff Emerick, had the great idea of 336 00:15:59,566 --> 00:16:04,366 plugging it into a revolving speaker, called a Leslie. 337 00:16:04,466 --> 00:16:07,196 So when it goes fast, it creates one sound, 338 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:10,400 and when it slows down, it creates another. 339 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:16,330 -♪ That you may see the meaning of within ♪ 340 00:16:16,433 --> 00:16:18,133 -In the early part of the song, 341 00:16:18,233 --> 00:16:19,933 John's voice is pretty straightforward. 342 00:16:20,033 --> 00:16:21,903 Then, after about 1 1/2 minutes, 343 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,430 the Leslie speaker effect kicks in. 344 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:32,503 -[ Hollow sound ] ♪ That love is all and love is everyone ♪ 345 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,370 ♪ It is knowing 346 00:16:36,466 --> 00:16:39,826 ♪ It is knowing 347 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:42,603 -The Beatles always looked for other sounds in their records, 348 00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:43,970 and they all had tape machines, 349 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:47,726 which they used for recording demos. 350 00:16:47,833 --> 00:16:49,703 And they found that by making tape loops, 351 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,300 they could create sounds that people had never heard before. 352 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,770 One of the most recognizable loops on "Tomorrow Never Knows" 353 00:16:55,866 --> 00:16:58,496 is the sound of -- well, it sounds like seagulls squawking. 354 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,630 It's actually the sound of, I think, Paul laughing. 355 00:17:01,733 --> 00:17:05,373 Um, and speeding himself up, which is this. 356 00:17:05,466 --> 00:17:10,996 [ Squeaking sounds ] 357 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:13,669 -Another loop is just made up of guitars being recorded 358 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:16,026 over and over again, again, sped up and slowed down, 359 00:17:16,133 --> 00:17:19,673 turned backwards and they sound like trumpets. 360 00:17:19,766 --> 00:17:23,526 [ High-pitched trumpeting ] 361 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,400 And then, early days of sampling, 362 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:33,470 Paul actually recorded an orchestra off a vinyl record 363 00:17:33,566 --> 00:17:35,126 and created a chord here. 364 00:17:35,233 --> 00:17:39,233 [ Orchestral music playing ] 365 00:17:39,333 --> 00:17:41,173 [ Rock plays ] 366 00:17:41,266 --> 00:17:42,666 -I had a bit of a problem. 367 00:17:42,766 --> 00:17:45,796 How were we going to use the collection of sounds? 368 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:49,970 I devised a way of playing five loops at the same time, 369 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:51,966 and if you brought up the faders, 370 00:17:52,066 --> 00:17:54,026 it was like bringing up an organ stop. 371 00:17:54,133 --> 00:17:57,773 Each one had a different tape loop playing all the time, 372 00:17:57,866 --> 00:18:00,966 so you could make your sound as you wished. 373 00:18:01,066 --> 00:18:02,766 -And these tape loops were running and running and running, 374 00:18:02,866 --> 00:18:04,366 and The Beatles and my dad 375 00:18:04,466 --> 00:18:06,926 and Geoff Emerick performed on the desk. 376 00:18:07,033 --> 00:18:08,933 377 00:18:09,033 --> 00:18:11,803 Pushing up faders at the right time 378 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:13,070 in order to create the instrument sounds 379 00:18:13,166 --> 00:18:14,696 they wanted for the mix. 380 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,870 [ Trumpeting ] 381 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:19,966 So, the actual mix of "Tomorrow Never Knows" 382 00:18:20,066 --> 00:18:22,026 is a performance; it can't be recreated. 383 00:18:22,133 --> 00:18:25,203 -♪ It is being 384 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:28,670 ♪ It is being 385 00:18:28,766 --> 00:18:33,126 ♪ 386 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,670 -If you look at everything that's happening 387 00:18:38,766 --> 00:18:40,296 in that recording, 388 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,070 it's like a prophecy of pop music in one song. 389 00:18:44,166 --> 00:18:47,726 With the sampling and the loops, there's so much happening there 390 00:18:47,833 --> 00:18:53,473 that will be active for the next four or five decades. 391 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,066 -♪ It is knowing 392 00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:59,596 -You can look at hip-hop and using samples 393 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:01,500 or scratching in music, 394 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,630 The Beatles were doing that on "Tomorrow Never Knows." 395 00:19:04,733 --> 00:19:08,673 That song makes you rethink what music is. 396 00:19:08,766 --> 00:19:09,766 It's that profound. 397 00:19:09,866 --> 00:19:11,696 -♪ Or play the game 398 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,830 ♪ Existence to the end 399 00:19:16,933 --> 00:19:20,773 ♪ Of the beginning 400 00:19:20,866 --> 00:19:23,766 ♪ Of the beginning 401 00:19:23,866 --> 00:19:28,326 -This was the dawn of creating a new kind of magic. 402 00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:31,503 This was really fantasy stuff. 403 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,630 ♪ 404 00:19:39,766 --> 00:19:42,466 -Okay, "Wouldn't It Be Nice," take 5. 405 00:19:42,566 --> 00:19:44,096 [ Drumsticks clacking ] 406 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,230 [ The Beach Boys's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" playing ] 407 00:19:53,666 --> 00:19:57,766 ♪ 408 00:19:57,866 --> 00:20:00,166 -I think that kind of friendly competition 409 00:20:00,266 --> 00:20:02,866 between The Beatles and the Beach Boys 410 00:20:02,966 --> 00:20:06,196 really advanced the cause of popular music. 411 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:10,170 Brian Wilson heard "Rubber Soul" and understood that there was 412 00:20:10,266 --> 00:20:13,126 a whole other place where you could take rock and roll, 413 00:20:13,233 --> 00:20:19,803 that that was an elevated musical consciousness at play. 414 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:21,970 -Brian was listening to what The Beatles were doing 415 00:20:22,066 --> 00:20:25,726 in the studio, and he was completely knocked out. 416 00:20:25,833 --> 00:20:28,603 Hearing that made him realize that he had to up the ante 417 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,830 on his next album, which was "Pet Sounds." 418 00:20:30,933 --> 00:20:34,403 -♪ You know it's gonna make it that much better ♪ 419 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:39,930 ♪ When we can say goodnight and stay together ♪ 420 00:20:40,033 --> 00:20:44,273 -He told me that he and Carl used to pray before each session 421 00:20:44,366 --> 00:20:48,126 that they would make a record that would be warmer 422 00:20:48,233 --> 00:20:50,833 and more inspirational than "Rubber Soul." 423 00:20:50,933 --> 00:20:52,303 -None of those big pickups -- ♪ Ba, ba 424 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,500 Just uh, just like uh... 425 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,700 ♪ Doo-do, doo-do 426 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,830 -Brian pre-imagined everything that he did. 427 00:20:59,933 --> 00:21:04,033 He heard all of the vocal parts, all of the instrumental parts, 428 00:21:04,133 --> 00:21:07,003 even before anyone set foot in the studio. 429 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:08,670 Brian was the mastermind. 430 00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:12,796 -I'd like to start it out now this time with the, uh, 431 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,670 organ and the Fender bass, and then the bongos will come in 432 00:21:15,766 --> 00:21:16,966 at the second half like everything else. 433 00:21:17,066 --> 00:21:17,996 All right, here we go. 434 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:20,100 -1, rolling... 435 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,230 -1, 2. 1, 2, 3... 436 00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:27,233 -Ironically, the only song from the "Pet Sounds" sessions 437 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:29,973 that reached number one was recorded 438 00:21:30,066 --> 00:21:33,296 after the album was released and it was the result 439 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,730 of an unprecedented number of hours in the studio. 440 00:21:36,833 --> 00:21:39,033 -Time was nothing to Brian Wilson. 441 00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:43,933 I remember we all got to sit there for about 3 1/2 hours 442 00:21:44,033 --> 00:21:46,573 when he was running his finger up that thing going... 443 00:21:46,666 --> 00:21:49,026 [ Imitates distorted instrument playing ] 444 00:21:49,133 --> 00:21:52,233 -♪ I'm picking up good vibrations ♪ 445 00:21:52,333 --> 00:21:55,403 ♪ She's giving me excitations 446 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,370 ♪ Ooh, bop, bop 447 00:21:57,466 --> 00:22:00,566 ♪ Good vibrations, bop, bop 448 00:22:00,666 --> 00:22:02,066 ♪ Excitation 449 00:22:02,166 --> 00:22:07,196 ♪ Good, good, good, good vibrations ♪ 450 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:08,370 ♪ Excitation 451 00:22:08,466 --> 00:22:11,966 ♪ Good, good, good, good vibrations ♪ 452 00:22:12,066 --> 00:22:14,396 ♪ She's bop bop, excitation ♪ 453 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:16,670 ♪ Close my eyes 454 00:22:16,766 --> 00:22:19,426 -Just having the time to experiment in the studio 455 00:22:19,533 --> 00:22:22,033 was a radical change. 456 00:22:22,133 --> 00:22:23,473 When he made "Good Vibrations," 457 00:22:23,566 --> 00:22:26,726 Brian reportedly spent 90 hours recording it. 458 00:22:26,833 --> 00:22:29,803 Everyone thought that was insanity, you know, like, 459 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:34,300 he's gone mad; he spent 90 hours working on one song. 460 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,470 You know, to me, that's nothing. 461 00:22:37,566 --> 00:22:40,196 -The session that we did on "Good Vibrations" 462 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:42,130 is not one session. 463 00:22:42,233 --> 00:22:44,703 It was many, many, many sessions. 464 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,600 -Take after take after take. 465 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:48,570 My fingers were almost bleeding, you know. 466 00:22:48,666 --> 00:22:52,366 It's like "Come on, Brian, fade us out; fade us out." 467 00:22:52,466 --> 00:22:56,066 -♪ I don't know where, but she sends me there ♪ 468 00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:59,396 ♪ Oh, my, my, what a sensation ♪ 469 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:02,300 ♪ Oh, my my, what elation 470 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,270 ♪ Oh, my my, what 471 00:23:05,366 --> 00:23:08,696 [ Organ plays ] 472 00:23:13,266 --> 00:23:17,766 ♪ Gotta keep those loving good vibrations ♪ 473 00:23:17,866 --> 00:23:20,696 ♪ Happening with her 474 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,130 ♪ Gotta keep those loving good vibrations ♪ 475 00:23:25,233 --> 00:23:27,003 ♪ Happening with her 476 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,100 -Brian's, you know, a very deep guy. 477 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,400 You know, so he wanted to move beyond songs 478 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:34,430 about summer and -- and surfing. 479 00:23:34,533 --> 00:23:36,073 ♪ 480 00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:39,126 Just saying something like, "God only knows 481 00:23:39,233 --> 00:23:41,733 what I'd be without you" in a rock 'n' roll song 482 00:23:41,833 --> 00:23:45,703 and then create this wonderful music that enables the listener, 483 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,670 50 years later, to put it on and to feel what they were feeling. 484 00:23:50,766 --> 00:23:51,896 That's great art. 485 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,500 -♪ I may not always love you 486 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,000 -The way he layered and added different vocal parts 487 00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:01,170 created that wonderful celestial resonance. 488 00:24:01,266 --> 00:24:04,626 Overdub over overdub over overdub until 489 00:24:04,733 --> 00:24:09,003 on "God Only Knows," he ended up with 7 tracks of vocal overdubs. 490 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:12,970 And that's how come you hear this heavenly choir. 491 00:24:13,066 --> 00:24:17,096 -♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 492 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,770 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 493 00:24:20,866 --> 00:24:24,766 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 494 00:24:24,866 --> 00:24:28,196 ♪ God only knows what I'd be -We loved the Beach Boys. 495 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,670 And it was a bit of a competition across the pond. 496 00:24:32,766 --> 00:24:34,166 When they did "Pet Sounds," 497 00:24:34,266 --> 00:24:35,996 I played it to everyone and said... "[ Gasps ] 498 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,170 Listen -- listen to what they're doing here," you know. 499 00:24:39,266 --> 00:24:41,096 So we did "Sgt. Pepper." 500 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,270 [ The Beatles's "Within Without You" playing ] 501 00:24:47,433 --> 00:24:51,703 ♪ 502 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,100 [ Crowd screaming ] 503 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:04,503 -What happened to us was that while we were touring, 504 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,970 we were regressing as musicians because the noise 505 00:25:09,066 --> 00:25:12,196 of the audience was louder than the band. 506 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,930 I'm watching the feet, I'm watching their arses, 507 00:25:15,033 --> 00:25:16,673 I'm watching the bobbing heads -- Whoo! 508 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:18,566 Oh, it's that part -- 509 00:25:18,666 --> 00:25:21,296 to stay in some sort of time. 510 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,900 -The last gig was Candlestick Park, 511 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,900 and by then we were just so fed up. 512 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,670 And we got loaded into a meat wagon. 513 00:25:28,766 --> 00:25:30,626 ♪ 514 00:25:30,733 --> 00:25:33,833 It was like a surrealist film. 515 00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:35,473 It's gone downhill, performance. 516 00:25:35,566 --> 00:25:37,596 'Cause we can't develop when no one can hear us. 517 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:40,900 You know what I mean? So for us to perform, it's difficult. 518 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,230 It gets difficult each time. 519 00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:44,873 -We can't do a tour like we've been doing all these years 520 00:25:44,966 --> 00:25:47,026 because -- because our music's progressed, 521 00:25:47,133 --> 00:25:48,533 we've used more instruments. 522 00:25:48,633 --> 00:25:51,633 It'd be soft, us going onstage, the four of us, and trying to do 523 00:25:51,733 --> 00:25:53,803 the records we've made with orchestras and, you know, 524 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:55,030 bands and things. 525 00:25:55,133 --> 00:25:56,333 ♪ 526 00:25:56,433 --> 00:26:01,403 -♪ Try to realize it's all within yourself ♪ 527 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:05,700 ♪ No one else can make you change ♪ 528 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,030 -The Beatles achieved a quantum leap when they stopped touring. 529 00:26:10,133 --> 00:26:13,573 That gave us an opportunity which we hadn't had before. 530 00:26:13,666 --> 00:26:16,666 We were no longer were under pressure to complete a song 531 00:26:16,766 --> 00:26:18,766 within a day or two days. 532 00:26:18,866 --> 00:26:21,566 We could spend as much time as we liked on it. 533 00:26:21,666 --> 00:26:24,696 -The boundaries were being moved so far forward 534 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,230 from the early mono days. 535 00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:31,003 Now, we were asking for things like a symphony orchestra 536 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,500 for "A Day in the Life." 537 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,470 You know, lunatics had taken over the asylum. 538 00:26:37,566 --> 00:26:40,466 [ The Beatles's "A Day in the Life" playing ] 539 00:26:43,766 --> 00:26:49,866 -♪ I read the news today, oh, boy ♪ 540 00:26:49,966 --> 00:26:55,896 ♪ About a lucky man who made the grade ♪ 541 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:02,070 ♪ And though the news was rather sad ♪ 542 00:27:02,166 --> 00:27:06,066 ♪ Well, I just had to laugh 543 00:27:08,433 --> 00:27:12,403 ♪ I saw the photograph 544 00:27:14,666 --> 00:27:16,526 -Like many of John's songs, 545 00:27:16,633 --> 00:27:19,473 "A Day In The Life" began quite simply, 546 00:27:19,566 --> 00:27:23,396 based on the odd newspaper cutting. 547 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:26,300 Paul had written a scrap of a song, 548 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,270 "Woke up, fell out of bed." You know the one. 549 00:27:29,366 --> 00:27:31,466 -♪ Dragged a comb across my head ♪ 550 00:27:31,566 --> 00:27:33,426 -But when we laid down the track, 551 00:27:33,533 --> 00:27:37,103 Paul came up with the idea of giant crescendo, 552 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,900 a kind of immense musical orgasm. 553 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,030 ♪ Ah 554 00:27:45,133 --> 00:27:51,103 ♪ Ah 555 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,100 -"Don't listen to the man next to you," 556 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,730 I said to the orchestra. 557 00:27:54,833 --> 00:27:57,503 "Make your own way up the sliding passage. 558 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,330 If you're playing the same note as your companion, 559 00:28:00,433 --> 00:28:02,673 you're playing the wrong one." 560 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:05,826 Well, the orchestra hooted with laughter. 561 00:28:05,933 --> 00:28:08,933 All their lives they'd tried to play as one man. 562 00:28:09,033 --> 00:28:11,003 And it only took a few minutes for The Beatles 563 00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:13,200 to change all that. 564 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,070 -We were taking so long making "Sgt. Pepper." 565 00:28:16,166 --> 00:28:18,496 I remember in one of the music papers, they said, 566 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,700 "Oh, The Beatles have dried up." 567 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,970 And we were like... "[Snickers] No, we haven't." 568 00:28:24,066 --> 00:28:25,826 [ Crescendo plays ] 569 00:28:25,933 --> 00:28:31,633 [ Final chord plays ] 570 00:28:31,733 --> 00:28:36,133 -We were on the road driving to a gig in an old Zephyr 4 571 00:28:36,233 --> 00:28:39,473 when "Sgt. Pepper" was played for the first time on the radio. 572 00:28:39,566 --> 00:28:42,466 And I remember, we pulled off into a lay-by and sat there 573 00:28:42,566 --> 00:28:44,926 and listened to the whole thing from start to finish. 574 00:28:45,033 --> 00:28:48,403 And I remember we just looked at each other and went, "...me!" 575 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,000 That's just... 576 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:53,400 You know, I couldn't wait to hear the songs again. 577 00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,530 Suddenly, here was an album 578 00:28:57,633 --> 00:29:00,773 that was like a theatrical construction, 579 00:29:00,866 --> 00:29:04,166 but it was also rooted in songs that were about 580 00:29:04,266 --> 00:29:09,126 all our hopes and fears, and so, in -- in that sense, 581 00:29:09,233 --> 00:29:13,733 that album opened Pandora's box for everybody. 582 00:29:13,833 --> 00:29:16,933 [ Playing Pink Floyd's "Breathe" ] 583 00:29:22,066 --> 00:29:24,796 -"Dark Side of the Moon" started in a rehearsal room 584 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:25,870 in Bermondsey, I think, 585 00:29:25,966 --> 00:29:27,696 that belonged to the Rolling Stones, 586 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,630 where we did some, um, sort of jamming, writing. 587 00:29:32,733 --> 00:29:37,333 ♪ 588 00:29:37,433 --> 00:29:41,633 -With "Dark Side," I had a strong and compelling notion 589 00:29:41,733 --> 00:29:44,203 that we could make an album that was about life 590 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:45,930 and about feelings 591 00:29:46,033 --> 00:29:49,733 and the human condition and things that impinge upon us. 592 00:29:49,833 --> 00:29:51,403 Can I put this down? 593 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:53,000 -Just a second -- we're just... 594 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,330 I still have to find... -It's on the other track. 595 00:29:55,433 --> 00:29:56,933 -Okay. 596 00:29:57,033 --> 00:30:00,103 -How do we make, you know, with a recording desk 597 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600 and a couple of little old synthesizers and stuff, 598 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,300 how do you make that sound? 599 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,570 And you have to throw yourself 600 00:30:06,666 --> 00:30:09,766 and your imagination into creating. 601 00:30:09,866 --> 00:30:10,896 I just plugged this up 602 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,870 and started playing one sequence on it, 603 00:30:12,966 --> 00:30:14,896 and, uh, Roger immediately pricked up his ears 604 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,200 and thought that sounded good, 605 00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:21,070 and came out and we started mucking with it together. 606 00:30:21,166 --> 00:30:24,266 -A series of notes played in slowly... 607 00:30:24,366 --> 00:30:26,066 [ Playing notes slowly ] 608 00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:29,396 ...triggering a noise generator and oscillators, 609 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:32,070 and then just speed it up, you know. 610 00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:38,126 [ Speed of music increases, playing rapidly ] 611 00:30:38,233 --> 00:30:39,303 -Now you've got it, basically. 612 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,700 ♪ 613 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,070 [ Frequency rises ] 614 00:30:47,166 --> 00:30:50,526 -Well, recording changed with the technology. 615 00:30:50,633 --> 00:30:52,473 When 16-track came in, 616 00:30:52,566 --> 00:30:55,896 we could overdub almost to our heart's content. 617 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,030 ♪ 618 00:31:01,133 --> 00:31:04,673 -I think the analogy of painting is very relevant in terms 619 00:31:04,766 --> 00:31:08,696 of making records, because you can paint over a whole bit, 620 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,500 or erase a whole section, and say, "Well, I like that bit 621 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,130 of the painting, but let's start again here." 622 00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:17,633 ♪ 623 00:31:17,733 --> 00:31:20,833 -I actually like being able to sit back and listen to it, 624 00:31:20,933 --> 00:31:24,503 and then go and say well maybe if we just add something here. 625 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,800 -♪ All that you touch 626 00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:29,430 ♪ And all that you see 627 00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:32,633 ♪ All that you taste 628 00:31:32,733 --> 00:31:35,103 ♪ All you feel 629 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,170 -That was very freeing. 630 00:31:38,266 --> 00:31:39,926 But you could say maybe it was destructive 631 00:31:40,033 --> 00:31:43,903 in some ways as well, 'cause it meant you didn't have to 632 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,870 make that simple brush stroke that meant something. 633 00:31:47,966 --> 00:31:49,996 You know, you could go blah, blah, blah! 634 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,830 We'll sort it out later. 635 00:31:52,933 --> 00:31:55,573 -♪ Beg, borrow, or steal 636 00:31:55,666 --> 00:31:57,896 ♪ And all you create 637 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,300 ♪ And all you destroy 638 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,970 -That record to me is... it's mind-blowing. 639 00:32:04,066 --> 00:32:07,666 The way that that still sounds, like, I mean, the tape loops, 640 00:32:07,766 --> 00:32:10,096 the mixing, the depth -- 641 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,870 no one has come close to that, probably to this day. 642 00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:17,326 I can clearly remember that moment of sitting and listening 643 00:32:17,433 --> 00:32:19,503 to the whole mix all the way through. I'm thinking, 644 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,870 "My God, we've really done something fantastic here." 645 00:32:23,966 --> 00:32:26,996 ♪ 646 00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:34,373 -There was an explosion of creativity in the '60s 647 00:32:34,466 --> 00:32:37,066 to the mid '70s of music that will never, I don't think, 648 00:32:37,166 --> 00:32:38,626 be matched in pop music again. 649 00:32:38,733 --> 00:32:41,773 [ Aerosmith's "Sweet Emotion" playing ] 650 00:32:45,366 --> 00:32:48,066 -Technology was certainly enabling people 651 00:32:48,166 --> 00:32:50,596 to experiment more as musicians. 652 00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:53,930 -Multitracking came in and then we had three tracks. 653 00:32:54,033 --> 00:32:55,973 And then we got four tracks. 654 00:32:56,066 --> 00:32:58,366 And then I remember all the studios got eight tracks. 655 00:32:58,466 --> 00:33:00,826 And then all of a sudden we got 16 tracks, 656 00:33:00,933 --> 00:33:02,573 and we were all looking at one another, saying, 657 00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:05,396 "What the hell are we gonna do with 16 tracks?" 658 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:07,370 Before anybody really learned how to use one of those, 659 00:33:07,466 --> 00:33:09,966 here comes a 24-track. 660 00:33:10,066 --> 00:33:14,496 And the next thing you know, it's multi-forever. [ Chuckles ] 661 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,500 -♪ Sweet... 662 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,670 ♪ Emotion 663 00:33:24,766 --> 00:33:26,666 -In the '70s, people were spending 664 00:33:26,766 --> 00:33:29,626 more and more and more money on these gigantic studios. 665 00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:33,003 -Technology has helped us enormously but it has had also 666 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:37,270 a damaging effect, because it's allowed too much freedom. 667 00:33:37,366 --> 00:33:39,866 I've known groups who will concentrate on 668 00:33:39,966 --> 00:33:43,926 getting a bassline on one song, and spending five days doing it. 669 00:33:44,033 --> 00:33:46,403 Music suffers from overproduction. 670 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,030 You don't gain. You think you're gaining 671 00:33:49,133 --> 00:33:51,373 'cause everybody wants to play with toys. 672 00:33:51,466 --> 00:33:54,666 And when another 16 tracks arrive that you can play with, 673 00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:57,096 you have to play with them, because they're there, 674 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,030 like a kid with a new toybox. 675 00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:03,273 But I thought once you got past 16, it was a waste of time. 676 00:34:03,366 --> 00:34:04,926 It became a bit self-indulgent. 677 00:34:05,033 --> 00:34:08,133 And it allowed records to go on forever in the studio. 678 00:34:08,233 --> 00:34:12,803 ♪ 679 00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:17,830 -And the album of the year is... Fleetwood Mac! 680 00:34:17,933 --> 00:34:23,033 -The success of "Rumors" was such a disproportionate thing. 681 00:34:23,133 --> 00:34:26,373 You have so much pressure from the outside, 682 00:34:26,466 --> 00:34:30,026 wanting you to repeat the formula that is embodied 683 00:34:30,133 --> 00:34:31,803 in an album like "Rumors." 684 00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,300 But there was no formula to "Rumors." 685 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,900 We were just responding to what was going on 686 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,170 in our personal lives, so, no matter what we did, 687 00:34:40,266 --> 00:34:44,096 we couldn't have repeated the authenticity of that. 688 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:45,869 ♪ Loving you 689 00:34:45,966 --> 00:34:50,266 ♪ Isn't the right thing to do 690 00:34:50,366 --> 00:34:52,996 Every song on that album is a cross-dialogue 691 00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:55,730 between one member and another. 692 00:34:55,833 --> 00:34:58,433 ♪ 693 00:34:58,533 --> 00:35:02,373 -♪ You can go your own way 694 00:35:02,466 --> 00:35:04,966 -You can't hear "Go Your Own Way" in any way 695 00:35:05,066 --> 00:35:07,896 other than, you know, me talking to Stevie. 696 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,070 -♪ Another lonely day 697 00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:13,026 -Making the left turn that we made on "Tusk," 698 00:35:13,133 --> 00:35:17,233 it was all about how do we not paint ourselves into a corner? 699 00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:19,173 And so I said to the band, 700 00:35:19,266 --> 00:35:21,966 "Look, let's try something a little different." 701 00:35:22,066 --> 00:35:25,196 And they were sort of like, "Well...okay." 702 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:30,270 -♪ Why don't you tell me what's goin' on? ♪ 703 00:35:30,366 --> 00:35:33,796 -I had a small studio in the back of my house, 704 00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:36,600 and I just wheeled a 24-track in, 705 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,570 and I just started putting stuff down. 706 00:35:39,666 --> 00:35:43,526 Basically what I'm trying to do is take a track that we cut 707 00:35:43,633 --> 00:35:46,733 in the studio, mic the bathroom, 708 00:35:46,833 --> 00:35:50,703 which is right across the hall, which has an amazing sound. 709 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,570 I mean, 1927 bathrooms are rock 'n' roll all the way. 710 00:35:53,666 --> 00:35:57,396 And, uh, record it back onto some empty tracks. 711 00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:59,470 [ Drum beating ] 712 00:35:59,566 --> 00:36:04,596 Working at home alone allows you to sort of go into the void 713 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:07,730 and to find all sorts of mysterious things. 714 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:09,633 And that was something I wanted to explore, 715 00:36:09,733 --> 00:36:11,933 and then bring back and share with the band. 716 00:36:12,033 --> 00:36:14,033 Sing the melody for a second. 717 00:36:14,133 --> 00:36:15,333 -We were recording at Village Recorders 718 00:36:15,433 --> 00:36:18,273 in Santa Monica, and we were recording 719 00:36:18,366 --> 00:36:21,096 six days a week, and it was really horrible. 720 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,700 It's like, Lindsey with a microphone 721 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,300 on the tile floor, going ooh, ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh, ooh. 722 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,900 And we're just all like, 723 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,970 "Okay, that was great. Take two." [ Chuckles ] 724 00:36:33,066 --> 00:36:34,566 And now -- and he's like... 725 00:36:34,666 --> 00:36:36,896 ♪ Ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh 726 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,700 ♪ Ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh 727 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,370 Okay, take three." 728 00:36:40,466 --> 00:36:41,896 And then he's taking the whole thing 729 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,700 and then he's slowing it down, and then he's recording that. 730 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,630 And then he's speeding it back up, 731 00:36:46,733 --> 00:36:48,803 and then he's putting it through a Leslie, 732 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,130 and it was just hard for the rest of us, 733 00:36:51,233 --> 00:36:54,673 because we kind of... we weren't always involved. 734 00:36:54,766 --> 00:36:56,696 ♪ 735 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,730 -The title track, "Tusk," 736 00:36:58,833 --> 00:37:01,833 typifies the spirit of the album. 737 00:37:01,933 --> 00:37:03,873 I wanted Mick to play, like, jungle drums, 738 00:37:03,966 --> 00:37:07,296 so we got him going, and then we made a loop of it, 739 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,700 and everything else got added in after that. 740 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,600 ♪ Why don't you tell me who's on the phone? ♪ 741 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:18,530 Mick had the idea to put the marching band on 742 00:37:18,633 --> 00:37:22,273 and that was sort of the coup de grace on that song 743 00:37:22,366 --> 00:37:23,866 and it really pushed it over the top. 744 00:37:23,966 --> 00:37:29,026 -♪ Why don't you ask him the list on this rove? ♪ 745 00:37:29,133 --> 00:37:33,173 ♪ Oh oh-oh, oh oh-oh, oh 746 00:37:33,266 --> 00:37:34,896 ♪ Don't say that you love me 747 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,800 -Obviously, it reached the point where the ability to stay 748 00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:38,870 in the studio as long as you want 749 00:37:38,966 --> 00:37:40,926 and spend as much money as you want 750 00:37:41,033 --> 00:37:43,903 may not necessarily have been an entirely good thing. 751 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,800 They were actually in the studio 24 hours. 752 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:49,330 Lindsey and whoever would come in in the daytime, 753 00:37:49,433 --> 00:37:51,273 record stuff with one engineer, which Mick would come in 754 00:37:51,366 --> 00:37:54,126 at night, dislike, erase, and replace. 755 00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:56,573 So, in theory, they could have actually gone on forever 756 00:37:56,666 --> 00:37:58,326 and ever and ever. 757 00:37:58,433 --> 00:38:00,273 And of course, you know, prodigious amounts of cocaine 758 00:38:00,366 --> 00:38:01,696 were involved in the process, 759 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,970 which added a certain piquancy to the whole thing. 760 00:38:06,066 --> 00:38:07,296 ♪ 761 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,030 The Warner Bros. people never really took much stock 762 00:38:10,133 --> 00:38:14,403 of what we were doing, but, when we delivered that album to them, 763 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,000 that would've been a funny moment to be a fly on the wall 764 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:22,030 because I know they were probably looking at each other 765 00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:23,503 and going "What is this?" 766 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,500 -♪ Tusk! 767 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,230 -There was a kind of a backlash, 768 00:38:27,333 --> 00:38:30,933 there was a kind of a negativity to it. 769 00:38:31,033 --> 00:38:34,373 I remember Mick coming to me and saying, "You know, Lindsey, 770 00:38:34,466 --> 00:38:37,566 we're -- we're not gonna do that again." 771 00:38:37,666 --> 00:38:39,926 And I was like, "Okay." 772 00:38:40,033 --> 00:38:42,203 ♪ 773 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:46,770 It did take many years for that album to rise to the surface, 774 00:38:46,866 --> 00:38:49,426 to where now everyone else loves it 775 00:38:49,533 --> 00:38:53,933 and I think a whole generation, especially indie band types, 776 00:38:54,033 --> 00:38:57,073 seem to really get it. 777 00:38:57,166 --> 00:39:00,396 It was, uh, a ballsy thing to do, 778 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:04,570 but it was just the need to experiment 779 00:39:04,666 --> 00:39:07,226 and the need to be an artist. 780 00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,773 [ Eurythmics's "Who's That Girl" playing ] 781 00:39:10,866 --> 00:39:13,596 -Annie and I saw ourselves more like performance artists. 782 00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,830 I would sit on a chair, and Annie would have a suit 783 00:39:16,933 --> 00:39:18,773 and sing, and I wouldn't do anything. 784 00:39:18,866 --> 00:39:22,796 -♪ The language of love 785 00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:26,100 ♪ Slips from my lover's tongue ♪ 786 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,100 We always liked everything to be quite reduced. 787 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,430 And at the time that we were forming Eurythmics, 788 00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:37,103 there was a fantastic evolution in the kind of equipment 789 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,170 that you could get access to in terms of recording. 790 00:39:40,266 --> 00:39:44,226 ♪ Who's that girl 791 00:39:44,333 --> 00:39:47,333 ♪ Running around with you? 792 00:39:47,433 --> 00:39:52,403 ♪ Tell me, who's that girl 793 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:55,470 ♪ Running around with you? 794 00:39:55,566 --> 00:39:57,326 It was the beginning of that kind of 795 00:39:57,433 --> 00:40:00,403 bedroom recording studio. 796 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:01,570 You know, being the technological person 797 00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:05,396 that he was, Dave was very clued in with this. 798 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:08,070 -I'd went out and bought a thing called a Caterpillar 799 00:40:08,166 --> 00:40:09,526 which went with the Wasp. 800 00:40:09,633 --> 00:40:11,303 [ Playing notes ] 801 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,800 -And I had this new drum machine that was a prototype. 802 00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:17,300 In fact the outside of the computer was wood. 803 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,570 And it had a tiny little screen that was black and white 804 00:40:19,666 --> 00:40:20,996 almost like early "Space Invaders" 805 00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,770 or ping-pong, you know? 806 00:40:22,866 --> 00:40:25,866 And I had a TEAC Portastudio. 807 00:40:25,966 --> 00:40:28,696 So with these things, I'd worked out how to sort of 808 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,930 make a little sequence like... [ imitating notes playing ] 809 00:40:33,033 --> 00:40:35,133 And that was the beginning of Eurythmics. 810 00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:39,733 [ "Love Is a Stranger" playing ] 811 00:40:39,833 --> 00:40:42,673 -We didn't like big, intimidating studios. 812 00:40:42,766 --> 00:40:46,366 You go in there, and it's all, you know, big desks, 813 00:40:46,466 --> 00:40:47,696 and it's very glossy 814 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,430 and it's like -- it's like a big Rolls-Royce 815 00:40:50,533 --> 00:40:52,833 as opposed to like a little Volkswagen. 816 00:40:52,933 --> 00:40:54,233 We liked the Volkswagen. 817 00:40:54,333 --> 00:40:55,533 We didn't go for the Rolls-Royce. 818 00:40:55,633 --> 00:40:59,203 ♪ Love is a stranger in an open car ♪ 819 00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:04,030 ♪ Tempt you in and drive you far away ♪ 820 00:41:04,133 --> 00:41:07,233 We didn't care for the status quo. 821 00:41:07,333 --> 00:41:11,233 What we referred to at the time as like prehistoric dinosaur 822 00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:12,733 big rock bands, you know. 823 00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:16,873 So we wanted to do it in a very different way -- our own way. 824 00:41:16,966 --> 00:41:20,066 ♪ And drive you far away 825 00:41:20,166 --> 00:41:23,726 So we knew someone who had this massive picture framing factory, 826 00:41:23,833 --> 00:41:26,903 and at the very, very top, there was a kind of attic room, 827 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,400 so the roof was like that. 828 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,000 And there was lots of little cables, and we'd sit for hours, 829 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,200 and he would be noodling, and I would be like this. 830 00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:37,300 -I was programming it, and Annie kind of woke up and went, 831 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,330 "Whoa, what the hell is that?" 832 00:41:39,433 --> 00:41:40,773 And she got sort of really excited about it, 833 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:42,996 put some weird harmonies on it. 834 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:46,500 We really went all the way out in experimenting, 835 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,870 nothing to do with pop music. 836 00:41:48,966 --> 00:41:50,326 -♪ And I want you 837 00:41:50,433 --> 00:41:52,933 ♪ And I want you 838 00:41:53,033 --> 00:41:57,903 ♪ And I want you so it's an obsession ♪ 839 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,700 And that was where we first started 840 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,970 with Eurythmics songs, Eurythmics recordings: 841 00:42:03,066 --> 00:42:04,666 "Sweet Dreams," "Love Is a Stranger," 842 00:42:04,766 --> 00:42:07,966 all the early stuff; that's where we recorded. 843 00:42:08,066 --> 00:42:10,696 ♪ An obsessio...n 844 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,670 -This is like 1982, and it was kind of the beginning of loads 845 00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:19,396 of artists going, "Whoa, hang on a second. I can do that." 846 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:22,300 And all of this music started to come out 847 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,300 that wasn't made in big commercial studios, 848 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,800 and it was kinda made in people's bedrooms, 849 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:30,470 and...and it was cool. 850 00:42:30,566 --> 00:42:33,596 [ Beck's "Loser" playing ] 851 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,630 ♪ In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey ♪ 852 00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:44,333 ♪ Butane in my veins so I'm out to cut the junkie ♪ 853 00:42:44,433 --> 00:42:47,173 The first few albums I did were all done at someone's house 854 00:42:47,266 --> 00:42:48,766 who just had a little setup. 855 00:42:48,866 --> 00:42:50,426 They weren't in real studios. 856 00:42:50,533 --> 00:42:53,433 There was maybe a 3- or 4-hour window. 857 00:42:53,533 --> 00:42:54,903 He's like, "Yeah, you can come by 858 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,330 and then my girlfriend's coming home, 859 00:42:56,433 --> 00:42:59,633 and then we can't record after that because, uh, 860 00:42:59,733 --> 00:43:02,273 the microphone's set up in the kitchen." 861 00:43:02,366 --> 00:43:03,996 And then halfway through singing it, 862 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,570 shoes are flying at the engineer. 863 00:43:07,666 --> 00:43:10,866 His girlfriend has had it, you know, 864 00:43:10,966 --> 00:43:13,466 of living in a recording studio. 865 00:43:13,566 --> 00:43:18,566 ♪Soy un perdedor ♪ 866 00:43:18,666 --> 00:43:21,326 ♪ I'm a loser, baby 867 00:43:21,433 --> 00:43:23,903 ♪ So why don't you kill me? 868 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,200 -Home studios of the analog era, they were basically 869 00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:30,700 miniature versions of the existing recording studio 870 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,030 in your home and you had four tracks, and you made records. 871 00:43:35,133 --> 00:43:37,533 What digital technology did in a way 872 00:43:37,633 --> 00:43:39,473 is get rid of the studio entirely, 873 00:43:39,566 --> 00:43:41,896 and now the recording studio was your computer, 874 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,870 and you could make music anywhere. 875 00:43:43,966 --> 00:43:47,696 [ Bon Iver's "Flume" plays ] 876 00:43:59,133 --> 00:44:03,233 -♪ I am my mother's only one 877 00:44:03,333 --> 00:44:05,173 When I made "For Emma," 878 00:44:05,266 --> 00:44:09,326 this was up at my dad's hunting lodge. 879 00:44:09,433 --> 00:44:12,733 All I had was my old big block G4 computer 880 00:44:12,833 --> 00:44:15,003 and a Pro Tools interface. 881 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,470 It's funny to think it was Mac OS 9, 882 00:44:17,566 --> 00:44:21,296 which seems so bizarre to some people now. Me, too. 883 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,530 Um, but that's all I had. 884 00:44:24,633 --> 00:44:30,573 ♪ Only love is all maroon 885 00:44:30,666 --> 00:44:33,866 Pro Tools has been my musical voice. 886 00:44:33,966 --> 00:44:36,096 I mean, it's my way of understanding songs. 887 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,200 It's my tool of songwriting now, where it's like, 888 00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:42,830 I enjoy so much being able to open up a session, blank tape, 889 00:44:42,933 --> 00:44:46,703 so to speak, and just create an environment. 890 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,770 With a guitar, it used to be really exciting to me 891 00:44:48,866 --> 00:44:50,166 to sit down at a desk 892 00:44:50,266 --> 00:44:53,496 and use the room that I was in and sing and play, and... 893 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,000 But when I'm looking to write a new song now, 894 00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,730 I'm waiting for an environment to sort of be 895 00:44:58,833 --> 00:45:02,303 created accidentally, so then I can kind of step into it, 896 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,970 just like when somebody picks up a guitar, 897 00:45:05,066 --> 00:45:06,466 and there's a chord they play, 898 00:45:06,566 --> 00:45:08,826 they're instantly writing a song. 899 00:45:08,933 --> 00:45:11,933 -I was right around the first generation of kids 900 00:45:12,033 --> 00:45:18,973 who were making music alone in their bedrooms on a computer. 901 00:45:19,066 --> 00:45:20,866 That's really how I started to make music. 902 00:45:20,966 --> 00:45:24,526 It wasn't really in bands or in relation to other people. 903 00:45:24,633 --> 00:45:30,903 It was very much this insular, layering method of making music. 904 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,000 [ Clicking ] 905 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:35,970 906 00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:37,926 -It takes me a while to find even where I am sometimes, 907 00:45:38,033 --> 00:45:39,373 'cause there are so many tracks. 908 00:45:39,466 --> 00:45:40,726 909 00:45:40,833 --> 00:45:43,233 910 00:45:47,666 --> 00:45:50,896 911 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,600 -♪ For the lover 912 00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:55,570 ♪ For the love 913 00:45:55,666 --> 00:45:58,066 -These are all the tracks down here. 914 00:45:58,166 --> 00:46:01,466 They are all the violin and French-horn tracks 915 00:46:01,566 --> 00:46:06,696 that we had to mix down to a smaller amount of tracks. 916 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,630 You have an infinite amount of layers that you can add. 917 00:46:09,733 --> 00:46:11,833 So you have a billion more variables 918 00:46:11,933 --> 00:46:15,103 on where a song could go. 919 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,000 -Being a recording artist means, you know, push -- 920 00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,670 pushing and stretching all these limits and boundaries 921 00:46:20,766 --> 00:46:23,026 of what music can sound like. 922 00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:31,733 [ Singing various notes ] 923 00:46:31,833 --> 00:46:34,933 When I discovered that I could use a looping pedal to 924 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:39,803 create this multitrack sound live in front of people, 925 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:41,170 that was awesome. 926 00:46:41,266 --> 00:46:43,466 Let's do this thing. All right? 927 00:46:43,566 --> 00:46:46,526 What I do onstage is that I stamp with my foot 928 00:46:46,633 --> 00:46:50,473 on the looping pedal and that starts the recording 929 00:46:50,566 --> 00:46:52,166 -Whoo! [Cheering] 930 00:46:53,766 --> 00:46:55,396 If I press the pedal again, 931 00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:57,500 it will give me another layer on top of that. 932 00:46:59,666 --> 00:47:02,566 It's looping and looping and looping and I can stack 933 00:47:02,666 --> 00:47:05,866 layers and layers upon each other, of sound. 934 00:47:05,966 --> 00:47:08,696 [ Previous drumbeat plays ] 935 00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:15,970 -You know the worlds of sound 936 00:47:16,066 --> 00:47:18,896 that I had been hearing my whole life and what drew me 937 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,270 to recorded music suddenly were at my -- not my fingertips -- 938 00:47:22,366 --> 00:47:23,696 my toe tips. 939 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,100 ♪ Ah 940 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,600 [ Singing various notes ] 941 00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:33,900 It's an organic sound being put into a digital device 942 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,400 played by a human. 943 00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:38,630 And so there's all these weird, like, ew, what -- you know, 944 00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:40,873 what is that? What's happening here? 945 00:47:40,966 --> 00:47:42,996 But that to me is really -- that's where we're living now 946 00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,530 is that, you know, in that "in between" space. 947 00:47:45,633 --> 00:47:47,603 ♪ What's the bizness, yeah? 948 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:49,970 ♪ Don't take my life away, don't take my life away ♪ 949 00:47:50,066 --> 00:47:52,366 ♪ From a distance, yeah 950 00:47:52,466 --> 00:47:54,666 ♪ Don't take my life away, don't take my life away ♪ 951 00:47:54,766 --> 00:47:56,796 ♪ Ah, oh 952 00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:59,770 There are no limitations these days. 953 00:47:59,866 --> 00:48:03,396 Because we are multitracking, because we're overdubbing, 954 00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:07,570 you know, it's -- it's completely limitless. 955 00:48:07,666 --> 00:48:09,896 -That's where you going, yeah. 956 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,800 ♪ 957 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:13,930 -There's so much more technology around nowadays that, 958 00:48:14,033 --> 00:48:16,903 as a producer, you have to manage all of that technology 959 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,130 that's available to you. 960 00:48:18,233 --> 00:48:21,503 [ Radiohead's "Lotus Flower" playing ] 961 00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,230 And if you have the discipline to sort of compartmentalize 962 00:48:30,333 --> 00:48:34,403 what you're doing, then you benefit. 963 00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,800 ♪ I will shape myself into your pocket ♪ 964 00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:39,570 ♪ Invisible 965 00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:43,496 ♪ Do what you want 966 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,270 But the way that I personally deal with that is by just 967 00:48:46,366 --> 00:48:48,196 ignoring a lot of it. 968 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:50,300 Because I know that it's of no value to me. 969 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,370 It's like, "No, I'm not going to use Pro Tools to record." 970 00:48:53,466 --> 00:48:54,926 You know, use a tape machine where it will be easier 971 00:48:55,033 --> 00:48:56,303 to just like, put it in the computer 972 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,030 and take the good bits. 973 00:48:58,133 --> 00:48:59,933 Use a razor blade. 974 00:49:00,033 --> 00:49:04,133 Select things with a pencil, and cut them with a razor blade 975 00:49:04,233 --> 00:49:06,933 and stick them back together with tape. 976 00:49:07,033 --> 00:49:13,303 I still do it, because it's sort of a meditation of some sort. 977 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,830 In the process, you have time to think about what you're doing, 978 00:49:15,933 --> 00:49:19,703 and that works better a lot of times. 979 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,230 Things sound better for some reason. 980 00:49:21,333 --> 00:49:22,703 An edit done on tape sounds better 981 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,530 than an edit done in the computer. 982 00:49:24,633 --> 00:49:26,773 It just does. 983 00:49:26,866 --> 00:49:29,166 -I love the idea that we're in the position now to be able to 984 00:49:29,266 --> 00:49:32,696 pick and choose the different recording practices 985 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,200 from the different eras. 986 00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,570 And sometimes you put one something, you know, 987 00:49:36,666 --> 00:49:39,466 you put something that's quite retro 988 00:49:39,566 --> 00:49:41,366 on top of something very modern, 989 00:49:41,466 --> 00:49:43,096 and you create something very new. 990 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,530 [ Laughter, indistinct conversation ] 991 00:49:44,633 --> 00:49:47,003 -When the drums come in, just the drums. 992 00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:50,070 [ Indistinct conversations ] 993 00:49:50,166 --> 00:49:52,266 ♪ 994 00:49:52,366 --> 00:49:55,166 [ Drum beating, birds calling ] 995 00:49:55,266 --> 00:49:56,696 [ Button clicks ] 996 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,970 [ Birds continue calling, drum continues beating ] 997 00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:03,096 [ Playing "Give Up the Ghost" ] 998 00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:11,203 -One of the underlying stories of rock music is this constant 999 00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:14,370 experimentation with sound. 1000 00:50:14,466 --> 00:50:15,896 Because of multitracking, 1001 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,300 you really make the music during the mixing. 1002 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,870 And you can create drama in the music. 1003 00:50:20,966 --> 00:50:24,766 You could make things that were not musically feasible before. 1004 00:50:24,866 --> 00:50:25,826 You could make things that 1005 00:50:25,933 --> 00:50:27,833 didn't really belong to performances. 1006 00:50:27,933 --> 00:50:34,103 -♪ Don't haunt me 1007 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:40,300 ♪ Don't haunt me 1008 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:46,770 ♪ Don't haunt me 1009 00:50:46,866 --> 00:50:51,866 ♪ Don't haunt me 1010 00:50:51,966 --> 00:50:54,226 ♪ Gather up 1011 00:50:54,333 --> 00:51:00,273 ♪ The lost and sold 1012 00:51:00,366 --> 00:51:03,926 -All eras of recording are happening simultaneously. 1013 00:51:04,033 --> 00:51:07,703 I have a lot of musician friends who only record on tape, 1014 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,700 some who only record on their laptop, 1015 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,730 on a program that comes free with your computer. 1016 00:51:13,833 --> 00:51:18,703 And, uh, they all have big records that people listen to. 1017 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,900 -♪ Don't haunt me 1018 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,700 ♪ I think I should 1019 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:31,970 ♪ give up the ghost 1020 00:51:32,066 --> 00:51:38,726 ♪ Into your arms 1021 00:51:38,833 --> 00:51:42,533 -You know, when I first came into the record business, 1022 00:51:42,633 --> 00:51:46,633 the ideal for any recording engineer in a studio 1023 00:51:46,733 --> 00:51:51,733 was to make the most lifelike sound you could possibly do, 1024 00:51:51,833 --> 00:51:55,773 to make a photograph that was absolutely accurate. 1025 00:51:55,866 --> 00:51:57,566 Well, the studio changed all that 1026 00:51:57,666 --> 00:51:59,666 and certainly what we were doing, 1027 00:51:59,766 --> 00:52:03,826 because instead of taking a great photograph, 1028 00:52:03,933 --> 00:52:05,973 we could start painting a picture. 1029 00:52:06,066 --> 00:52:09,226 By overdubbing, by different kind of speeds, 1030 00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:11,003 you are painting with sound. 1031 00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:23,200 -♪ Into your arms 1032 00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:36,200 ♪ Into your arms 1033 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:48,500 ♪ Into your arms 1034 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:56,630 ♪ Into your arms 1035 00:52:56,733 --> 00:53:01,573 Please tell me that sounded all right. 1036 00:53:01,666 --> 00:53:05,396 ♪ 1037 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,570 -"Soundbreaking" is available on DVD. 1038 00:53:14,666 --> 00:53:17,266 The companion book is also available. 1039 00:53:17,366 --> 00:53:17,426 To order, visit shopPBS.org or call 1-800-PLAY-PBS. 76204

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