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[cell door clangs] 7 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:32,991 [mild music] 8 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:36,703 Honestly, I--I really believe 9 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:40,249 that you just can't trust anybody anymore. 10 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:43,585 Jay tried to paint this picture 11 00:00:43,585 --> 00:00:46,088 that he was trying to bring peace to the world. 12 00:00:46,088 --> 00:00:48,173 - That's 10,000 for you. - Oh, my God. 13 00:00:48,173 --> 00:00:49,508 - That's 10,000 for you. 14 00:00:49,508 --> 00:00:51,551 [fireworks explode] I just wanna show love. 15 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:53,136 My name is Jay Mazini. 16 00:00:53,136 --> 00:00:55,514 AMJAD: Like, he helps the poor people 17 00:00:55,514 --> 00:00:56,890 and he's a great Muslim. 18 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:58,558 [indistinct chatter] 19 00:00:58,558 --> 00:00:59,810 JAY: Jay Mazini. 20 00:00:59,810 --> 00:01:01,228 - What is your name? Who are you? 21 00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:03,397 Like, wha-- JAY: My name is Jay Mazini. 22 00:01:03,397 --> 00:01:05,607 Jay Mazini. - Jay Mazini? Yo. 23 00:01:05,607 --> 00:01:07,192 - Thank you. Thank you, my brother. 24 00:01:07,192 --> 00:01:09,111 AMJAD: When somebody would see these videos, 25 00:01:09,111 --> 00:01:11,989 they would instantly feel a connection to him. 26 00:01:11,989 --> 00:01:13,657 ANCHOR: Jay Mazini, 27 00:01:13,657 --> 00:01:15,284 who is blessing people in the streets of New York 28 00:01:15,284 --> 00:01:16,451 and New Jersey. 29 00:01:16,451 --> 00:01:17,869 He is so nice. - He is awesome. 30 00:01:17,869 --> 00:01:19,997 He is so awesome. ANCHOR: Yes. 31 00:01:19,997 --> 00:01:24,251 ABDUL: And they would say, "Jay Mazini's a great man. 32 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:25,919 Why would you call him fake?" 33 00:01:25,919 --> 00:01:28,922 [dramatic music] 34 00:01:30,382 --> 00:01:31,717 Because he brought 35 00:01:31,717 --> 00:01:35,220 more anguish and misery to my life 36 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:37,806 than I could ever have thought to imagine. 37 00:01:39,308 --> 00:01:41,351 You know, I didn't think he was gonna do what he did. 38 00:01:41,351 --> 00:01:42,978 [engine revs] 39 00:01:42,978 --> 00:01:47,733 ♪ ♪ 40 00:01:47,733 --> 00:01:50,110 I'm not a bad guy, 41 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:52,571 but he's ruined my life. 42 00:01:54,323 --> 00:01:57,326 [dark intense music] 43 00:01:57,326 --> 00:02:04,333 ♪ ♪ 44 00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:20,682 KARIM: All right. [sighs] We are good to go. 45 00:02:20,682 --> 00:02:22,100 CAMERAMAN: All right. KARIM: You just do it like that 46 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:23,393 and boom. 47 00:02:23,393 --> 00:02:26,063 So just, uh, give me a quick t--test audio 48 00:02:26,063 --> 00:02:27,981 and then we'll start. CAMERAMAN: Yep. 49 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:29,858 Got a test? - Testing, one, two. Testing. 50 00:02:29,858 --> 00:02:31,276 CAMERAMAN: Perfect. Sounds good. - Sounds good? 51 00:02:31,276 --> 00:02:32,736 All right. Let's begin. 52 00:02:32,736 --> 00:02:35,364 ♪ ♪ 53 00:02:35,364 --> 00:02:39,242 Hi, would you be interested in a really quick interview? 54 00:02:39,242 --> 00:02:40,369 Hi, would you guys be interested 55 00:02:40,369 --> 00:02:42,245 in a really quick interview? 56 00:02:42,245 --> 00:02:44,081 Hi, would you be interested in a really quick interview 57 00:02:44,081 --> 00:02:45,207 for a show? PERSON: All right. 58 00:02:45,207 --> 00:02:47,542 KARIM: All right. Awesome. Ready? 59 00:02:47,542 --> 00:02:49,544 My name is Karim Jovian. 60 00:02:49,544 --> 00:02:51,463 I do a lot of things-- social experiments 61 00:02:51,463 --> 00:02:53,548 and a lot of storytelling, man-on-the-street interviews 62 00:02:53,548 --> 00:02:54,758 in New York City. 63 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:55,759 I have my Bible 64 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:57,135 that is disguised as a Qur'an. 65 00:02:57,135 --> 00:02:58,595 "If evidence of virginity 66 00:02:58,595 --> 00:02:59,846 "is not found in a young woman, 67 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:01,640 "then they shall bring out the young woman 68 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:02,974 "to the door of her father's house 69 00:03:02,974 --> 00:03:05,185 and have the men of the city stone her to death." 70 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:06,728 - That's so [bleep] up. 71 00:03:06,728 --> 00:03:08,063 - I think that's bull[bleep]. 72 00:03:16,488 --> 00:03:19,074 YouTube, I have 2.2 million subscribers, 73 00:03:19,074 --> 00:03:21,076 Facebook, I have 2.1 million, 74 00:03:21,076 --> 00:03:23,704 Instagram, 136, I think it is now, 75 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:25,914 and then TikTok, 150,000, 76 00:03:25,914 --> 00:03:27,874 and I'm just starting to build up my Snapchat, 77 00:03:27,874 --> 00:03:29,292 so that's pretty small. 78 00:03:29,292 --> 00:03:30,961 [chuckles] 79 00:03:30,961 --> 00:03:33,296 Hi. This is Karim. 80 00:03:33,296 --> 00:03:34,798 For me growing up... [sighs] 81 00:03:34,798 --> 00:03:37,050 I honestly had a lot of people that I looked up to 82 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:38,593 but none of them were Muslim. [chuckles] 83 00:03:38,593 --> 00:03:41,221 I think it's just the faith and the culture, you know? 84 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:44,391 It's stigmatized to be in the entertainment industry. 85 00:03:44,391 --> 00:03:46,101 So I'm using social media 86 00:03:46,101 --> 00:03:48,186 to try to give people, 87 00:03:48,186 --> 00:03:49,646 you know, a better light-- 88 00:03:49,646 --> 00:03:51,440 a better view of Muslims. 89 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,024 I would like to pay for you. - Hmm? 90 00:03:53,024 --> 00:03:54,776 - Order whatever you want. I'll pay for you. 91 00:03:54,776 --> 00:03:56,111 - Yeah. - What's he say? 92 00:03:56,111 --> 00:03:57,612 - Yes. - You're so nice. 93 00:03:57,612 --> 00:03:58,738 - Thank you. I appreciate it. Have a good one. 94 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:02,325 A lot of the Muslim channels that I follow, 95 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:04,077 they were saying like, "Oh, look at you guys. 96 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:05,704 You're--are you another Jay Mazini?" 97 00:04:05,704 --> 00:04:07,372 [notification chimes] Like, in the comments, 98 00:04:07,372 --> 00:04:08,665 like, you know, telling me like, 99 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:09,791 "Hey, have you seen this guy?" 100 00:04:09,791 --> 00:04:11,084 "Have you been watching Jay?" 101 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:12,294 "Have you seen what he's doing?" 102 00:04:12,294 --> 00:04:14,129 Like, "Yo, this guy's blowin' up." 103 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:15,380 Some of the stuff he's doing 104 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:16,923 was kind of similar to what we were doing. 105 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:19,134 But we would do it on a smaller scale, 106 00:04:19,134 --> 00:04:20,844 like, giving out a couple of dollars. 107 00:04:20,844 --> 00:04:23,346 He was giving out thousands of dollars. 108 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:25,474 That's when I really started noticing. 109 00:04:29,686 --> 00:04:31,396 - Guys. 110 00:04:31,396 --> 00:04:34,149 I need everybody's attention. 111 00:04:34,149 --> 00:04:36,234 KARIM: I remember the first video I saw 112 00:04:36,234 --> 00:04:38,153 of him standing up on the table. 113 00:04:38,153 --> 00:04:39,654 Was it a Walmart? Or whatever it is, 114 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:40,864 it was some store. 115 00:04:40,864 --> 00:04:42,407 And he was just throwing out stacks of money. 116 00:04:42,407 --> 00:04:44,284 - Everybody that gotta pay their groceries, 117 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:46,411 I want you guys to come up. 118 00:04:46,411 --> 00:04:49,289 [indistinct chatter] 119 00:04:51,416 --> 00:04:53,168 PERSON 1: Thank you. PERSON 2: Thank you. 120 00:04:54,669 --> 00:04:57,506 KARIM: He was helping people in need and giving money out. 121 00:04:57,506 --> 00:04:59,216 And, you know, that's something 122 00:04:59,216 --> 00:05:01,676 that we're supposed to do in our faith in Islam. 123 00:05:01,676 --> 00:05:04,679 [dramatic music] 124 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:08,975 JAY: This is, uh, 10,000. 125 00:05:08,975 --> 00:05:10,393 - Oh, my God. 126 00:05:10,393 --> 00:05:11,478 [baby coughs] JAY: This is 10,000. 127 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,021 I'm serious. MOTHER: No, you not. 128 00:05:13,021 --> 00:05:14,940 JAY: I swear to God. 129 00:05:14,940 --> 00:05:16,358 - No, you not. 130 00:05:16,358 --> 00:05:18,193 No. [weeps] JAY: I swear. 131 00:05:18,193 --> 00:05:20,362 Sometimes you gotta realize there's more to life 132 00:05:20,362 --> 00:05:23,865 than materialistic things-- cars, fashion, jewelry. 133 00:05:23,865 --> 00:05:25,534 KARIM: He seemed very religious. 134 00:05:25,534 --> 00:05:26,618 I seen some videos of his 135 00:05:26,618 --> 00:05:28,703 with him walking around in Mecca. 136 00:05:28,703 --> 00:05:30,330 That was something like, "Wow, like, this guy 137 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,207 "is making all this money, he's helping all these people, 138 00:05:32,207 --> 00:05:33,667 and look at him." 139 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:35,043 It was cool. I mean, I'm gonna be honest. 140 00:05:35,043 --> 00:05:36,336 It was really cool to see that. 141 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:38,630 You know, someone who you could tell is a Muslim 142 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:41,174 because he has the full beard... 143 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:42,676 and he's helping people out. 144 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:44,761 We need more of that, you know? 145 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:51,393 AMJAD: So I knew Jay since I was a kid. 146 00:05:52,602 --> 00:05:55,230 [light clicks on] [notification chimes] 147 00:05:55,230 --> 00:05:59,860 Islamic school was an interesting experience. 148 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:02,988 We were literally going to the mosque for school. 149 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:04,948 It was very small. 150 00:06:04,948 --> 00:06:06,408 In tenth grade, 151 00:06:06,408 --> 00:06:08,910 Jay Mazini was one of the new students. 152 00:06:10,829 --> 00:06:12,581 From what I recall, 153 00:06:12,581 --> 00:06:15,917 Jay wasn't really a popular student, 154 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:18,295 didn't really have a lot of friends. 155 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:22,173 And, not to brag, you know, I was the popular guy. 156 00:06:22,173 --> 00:06:25,677 I was the better-looking one. 157 00:06:25,677 --> 00:06:27,512 The girls all liked me. 158 00:06:27,512 --> 00:06:29,890 But as soon as he started to make money, 159 00:06:29,890 --> 00:06:32,309 everybody loved him. 160 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:34,477 - I've seen his content online. 161 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:36,771 He's using YouTube, talkin' about, like, 162 00:06:36,771 --> 00:06:39,357 how he started, and-- and how he came up. 163 00:06:39,357 --> 00:06:40,942 JAY: What's up, my YouTube subscribers, 164 00:06:40,942 --> 00:06:43,695 my supporters, and everybody watchin' this video? 165 00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:45,280 I've been receiving a lot of messages 166 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:48,158 regarding my personal life and how everything went along. 167 00:06:48,158 --> 00:06:51,202 [pensive piano music] 168 00:06:51,202 --> 00:06:55,498 It started along when I was about 14. 169 00:06:55,498 --> 00:06:57,125 I would finish school. 170 00:06:57,125 --> 00:07:00,378 I would take the train to New York. 171 00:07:00,378 --> 00:07:05,592 ♪ ♪ 172 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:07,177 This is Fordham and Webster Ave. 173 00:07:07,177 --> 00:07:08,970 in the Bronx, New York. 174 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:11,431 This is the same stand I was hustlin' on 175 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:13,141 when I was 14 years old 176 00:07:13,141 --> 00:07:15,644 all the way to 17 years old. 177 00:07:15,644 --> 00:07:19,648 I had my colognes, perfumes, electronics-- 178 00:07:19,648 --> 00:07:23,109 anything I could get my hands on and hustle. 179 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:26,696 I stayed there from, you could say, 4:30 p.m. 180 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:30,200 to, like, 11:00, midnight. 181 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,826 KARIM: So, in this video, he mentions Wall Street. 182 00:07:31,826 --> 00:07:33,286 And he wanted to go there 183 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:35,997 because that's where all the money is made. 184 00:07:35,997 --> 00:07:37,749 JAY: I used to take the train to Wall Street 185 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:39,334 and cry to myself like, 186 00:07:39,334 --> 00:07:41,753 "How can I be that person? 187 00:07:41,753 --> 00:07:44,297 How can I have the same thing they have?" 188 00:07:44,297 --> 00:07:46,257 KARIM: He talks about investing. 189 00:07:46,257 --> 00:07:48,343 He got into penny stocks. 190 00:07:48,343 --> 00:07:50,720 - I had about $70,000, $80,000 saved up. 191 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,723 So I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna take this money. 192 00:07:53,723 --> 00:07:56,309 I'm gonna invest it into penny stock companies." 193 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:58,144 So if I lost it, 194 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,313 I would have lost all my money. 195 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:04,317 I took about $70,000 profit. 196 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:07,153 AMJAD: All of a sudden, he was the rich guy 197 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:10,699 and everybody wanted to be his friend. 198 00:08:10,699 --> 00:08:13,618 He started making a clothing brand. 199 00:08:13,618 --> 00:08:16,538 KARIM: He was posting a lot about his brand, Mazini Italy. 200 00:08:16,538 --> 00:08:19,040 It was all on his Instagram. 201 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,210 JAY: In the year 2016, we started the brand fully, 202 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:23,545 where we had it in stores. 203 00:08:23,545 --> 00:08:24,879 We had it in different stores in Harlem. 204 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:26,756 We had it in the Bronx. 205 00:08:26,756 --> 00:08:29,217 It was clippin'. It was doin' really good. 206 00:08:29,217 --> 00:08:30,468 Don't miss out. 207 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:32,053 Everything is sellin' out. 208 00:08:32,053 --> 00:08:34,222 All sizes are available. 209 00:08:34,222 --> 00:08:36,725 - I had just started learning how to screen print 210 00:08:36,725 --> 00:08:38,393 and make apparel. 211 00:08:38,393 --> 00:08:41,604 And Jay comes and dumps 200 hoodies in front of me, 212 00:08:41,604 --> 00:08:44,190 and he says, "Hey, I need this done in three days." 213 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:47,235 I started workin' with him, and he was always promisin', 214 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:49,070 "We're gonna get this job done 215 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:51,948 and we're gonna make more money in the long run." 216 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,034 JAY: In that year, 217 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:57,912 we did about 1/2 million in wholesale. 218 00:08:57,912 --> 00:08:59,497 It went great from there. 219 00:08:59,497 --> 00:09:02,083 Like, the company was skyrocketing. 220 00:09:02,083 --> 00:09:04,544 AMJAD: At one point, he had his store 221 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:07,547 next to Gucci and Louis Vuitton. 222 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:09,716 And he was really trying to portray his brand 223 00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:12,677 as a designer product. 224 00:09:12,677 --> 00:09:15,889 JAY: Before that time of putting the brand together, 225 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:18,475 there was nights I was sleepin' in the back of my car. 226 00:09:18,475 --> 00:09:21,186 I didn't have money to eat at--at times. 227 00:09:21,186 --> 00:09:22,729 It was hard. 228 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:26,441 But the company's worth about $8 million right now. 229 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:30,153 AMJAD: He blew up a lot on social media. 230 00:09:30,153 --> 00:09:32,530 He loved to flaunt that he had a lot of money. 231 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:34,157 And he got collaborations 232 00:09:34,157 --> 00:09:35,909 with a lot of big-name rappers, 233 00:09:35,909 --> 00:09:38,203 specifically, like, Dave East. [chuckles] 234 00:09:38,203 --> 00:09:39,621 He was one rapper 235 00:09:39,621 --> 00:09:42,207 who actually helped catapult him up. 236 00:09:42,207 --> 00:09:43,583 - The hats are available now. 237 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:44,626 I mean, you can go to the website. 238 00:09:44,626 --> 00:09:46,628 It got the Mazini page up on the 'gram. 239 00:09:46,628 --> 00:09:48,630 AMJAD: Fabolous is another one 240 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:50,715 who helped catapult him up. 241 00:09:50,715 --> 00:09:53,009 Nas, 50 Cent... 242 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:56,096 ANCHOR: 50 Cent is throwin' out the dollar bills 243 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:58,681 to a group of deserving fast food workers. 244 00:09:58,681 --> 00:10:01,226 The entertainer teamed up with Jay Mazini 245 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:03,061 for the epic surprise. 246 00:10:03,061 --> 00:10:05,522 [excited chatter and screams] 247 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:08,608 KARIM: To see him with 50 Cent, 248 00:10:08,608 --> 00:10:10,360 is what really legitimized it for me. 249 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,569 I'm like, "Yo, this guy is official." 250 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:12,987 - [squeals] 251 00:10:12,987 --> 00:10:15,323 AMJAD: That video sparked so much attention 252 00:10:15,323 --> 00:10:16,574 and got on the news. 253 00:10:16,574 --> 00:10:18,993 And it literally got him verified. 254 00:10:18,993 --> 00:10:20,328 So when that happened, 255 00:10:20,328 --> 00:10:22,747 he started to do it over and over again. 256 00:10:22,747 --> 00:10:24,499 Starts going to McDonald's. 257 00:10:24,499 --> 00:10:26,292 He starts going to another Checkers restaurant. 258 00:10:26,292 --> 00:10:28,419 He does it another ten times, which is-- 259 00:10:28,419 --> 00:10:32,090 caused him to gain hundreds of thousands of followers. 260 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:33,466 KARIM: He was giving out 261 00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:35,802 hundreds of thousands of dollars in one night. 262 00:10:35,802 --> 00:10:38,429 And it was being shared across all platforms. 263 00:10:38,429 --> 00:10:41,474 People eat that up. That's viral content. 264 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:42,809 And I thought, "This guy's gonna be huge. 265 00:10:42,809 --> 00:10:44,686 "He's gonna be one of the biggest 266 00:10:44,686 --> 00:10:46,896 "Muslim entertainers or creators," you know? 267 00:10:46,896 --> 00:10:48,523 "This guy is gonna be something else." 268 00:10:48,523 --> 00:10:50,942 50 CENT: [indistinct] - [laughs] 269 00:10:50,942 --> 00:10:52,443 - It's gonna be all right. 270 00:10:52,443 --> 00:10:54,863 [indistinct chatter] PERSON: Come here, come here. 271 00:10:54,863 --> 00:10:57,866 [soft tense music] 272 00:10:57,866 --> 00:11:01,035 ♪ ♪ 273 00:11:01,035 --> 00:11:03,663 - I hate to say it, but I knew Jay Mazini was scamming 274 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:06,082 from the moment I laid eyes on him. 275 00:11:06,082 --> 00:11:08,001 [indistinct chatter on laptop] 276 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:11,379 And so I--I felt like I had to take him down. 277 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:13,381 ♪ ♪ 278 00:11:15,842 --> 00:11:18,803 [dramatic music] 279 00:11:18,803 --> 00:11:23,433 ♪ ♪ 280 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:25,268 STEPHEN: My name is Stephen Findeisen. 281 00:11:25,268 --> 00:11:27,937 I run a YouTube channel called Coffeezilla 282 00:11:27,937 --> 00:11:30,732 where I investigate and bust scams. 283 00:11:30,732 --> 00:11:33,443 I uncovered a fraud worth $4 billion. 284 00:11:33,443 --> 00:11:35,361 This is the story of SafeMoon, 285 00:11:35,361 --> 00:11:36,696 a crypto coin that millions... 286 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:39,741 I kind of settled on investigating scams 287 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:41,409 'cause when I was a kid, 288 00:11:41,409 --> 00:11:43,036 my mom had been scammed a lot, 289 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:44,704 my friends had been scammed a lot. 290 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:47,540 I realize this is a very unheard segment 291 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:49,417 of the population who have been exploited. 292 00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:52,879 And there's just not a lot or people covering it. 293 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:54,589 I just want to make the world a better place 294 00:11:54,589 --> 00:11:57,091 by, hopefully, shining some light on these scams. 295 00:11:59,218 --> 00:12:00,345 - Sure. 296 00:12:02,347 --> 00:12:04,265 I remember somebody came to me and said, 297 00:12:04,265 --> 00:12:05,642 "You gotta go check out this guy. 298 00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:07,727 "He's got nearly a million followers. 299 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:10,605 And he's giving away money all the time." 300 00:12:10,605 --> 00:12:11,940 ANCHOR: A drive-through customer 301 00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:13,942 gave Nigel and his employees 302 00:12:13,942 --> 00:12:16,152 10 grand apiece. 303 00:12:16,152 --> 00:12:19,322 - I was just sayin' to myself the whole time, 304 00:12:19,322 --> 00:12:20,990 "Like, hold on, I hope this is not a prank." 305 00:12:20,990 --> 00:12:22,825 I just wanted to say thank you, man, and-- 306 00:12:22,825 --> 00:12:24,327 from me and my crew members. 307 00:12:24,327 --> 00:12:25,912 Just want to say thank you. 308 00:12:25,912 --> 00:12:27,705 STEPHEN: So take this all with a grain of salt 309 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:29,290 because this is all self-reported 310 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:32,126 by Jay Mazini, real name Jebara Igbara. 311 00:12:32,126 --> 00:12:33,920 But according to him, 312 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,798 he had hustled a cologne and hat shop. 313 00:12:36,798 --> 00:12:39,592 He had turned that into penny stock investing, 314 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,219 which he turned into a fashion brand 315 00:12:41,219 --> 00:12:42,595 of himself. 316 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:46,391 - The company's worth about $8 million right now. 317 00:12:46,391 --> 00:12:48,309 - I think there's an enormous pressure 318 00:12:48,309 --> 00:12:49,894 that comes with success, 319 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:52,355 because you have to keep it going. 320 00:12:52,355 --> 00:12:54,649 Momentum doesn't just keep happening. 321 00:12:54,649 --> 00:12:56,985 You have to make it happen. 322 00:12:56,985 --> 00:12:58,361 And so for Jay, 323 00:12:58,361 --> 00:13:00,446 he started doing these giveaways. 324 00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:02,323 JAY: For the first 500 orders, 325 00:13:02,323 --> 00:13:05,284 we'll be placing $1,000 in each order. 326 00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:08,121 Minimum three products. 327 00:13:08,121 --> 00:13:10,832 STEPHEN: He would give away cash prizes 328 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:12,542 as part of the package. 329 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:14,043 So you would order from Mazini Italy, 330 00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:17,839 but you have to have a minimum of, like, five orders. 331 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,841 This was a way for him to drive 332 00:13:19,841 --> 00:13:22,176 more and more sales to his business. 333 00:13:22,176 --> 00:13:24,595 - This is gonna be a mystery box. 334 00:13:24,595 --> 00:13:27,932 Minimum order of three Mazini products 335 00:13:27,932 --> 00:13:29,183 in order to win what? 336 00:13:29,183 --> 00:13:33,354 In order to win maybe $10,000, 337 00:13:33,354 --> 00:13:36,149 maybe $20,000, maybe $30,000. 338 00:13:36,149 --> 00:13:38,234 - Eventually, as he started trying to drive 339 00:13:38,234 --> 00:13:39,610 more and more sales, 340 00:13:39,610 --> 00:13:41,529 he would offer bigger and bigger sums. 341 00:13:41,529 --> 00:13:43,448 - The next 500 orders, 342 00:13:43,448 --> 00:13:47,201 I'll be placing in $5,000 in each box. 343 00:13:47,201 --> 00:13:49,203 For the next 1,000 orders, 344 00:13:49,203 --> 00:13:52,790 I'll be placing in $12,000 in each order. 345 00:13:52,790 --> 00:13:55,585 Minimum order, six Mazini Italy products. 346 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:57,045 For the next 800 people 347 00:13:57,045 --> 00:13:59,255 to place an order on the Mazini Italy site, 348 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:02,300 there'll be $40,000 in each order. 349 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:05,636 Minimum order is ten Mazini Italy items. 350 00:14:05,636 --> 00:14:07,263 STEPHEN: How could he be giving 351 00:14:07,263 --> 00:14:09,057 that amount of money away 352 00:14:09,057 --> 00:14:11,184 just for selling clothes? 353 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:15,104 ♪ ♪ 354 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:23,988 ABDUL: First time I heard about Jay Mazini, 355 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:27,492 you know, it was a video of him giving out money. 356 00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:29,619 I started scrolling through his profile 357 00:14:29,619 --> 00:14:31,454 and I started seeing, like, images of him, 358 00:14:31,454 --> 00:14:34,707 like, showing himself as a devout Muslim 359 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:37,043 who came up from rags to riches. 360 00:14:37,043 --> 00:14:38,753 That was the story that he painted. 361 00:14:38,753 --> 00:14:41,547 And it was something that, of course, inspires you. 362 00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:44,801 SINGER: ♪ As a man, all you have is your God ♪ 363 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:49,514 ♪ Your morals, character, dignity ♪ 364 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:51,390 ABDUL: Well, I haven't been the best saver in my life. 365 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:53,184 And, of course, when you're having a family 366 00:14:53,184 --> 00:14:54,477 and you finally have like, a good job, 367 00:14:54,477 --> 00:14:55,603 you start having to think 368 00:14:55,603 --> 00:14:57,146 about, you know, the long-term future. 369 00:14:57,146 --> 00:14:59,023 And that was always behind my mind. 370 00:14:59,023 --> 00:15:00,608 So I'm like, "Okay, I want to really get 371 00:15:00,608 --> 00:15:02,777 into investing and trading." 372 00:15:02,777 --> 00:15:06,823 And I saw his post that he created this academy 373 00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:09,617 that teaches students how to trade stocks. 374 00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:11,369 JAY: ♪ Some people lose their sense ♪ 375 00:15:11,369 --> 00:15:13,371 ♪ Trying to chase cents ♪ 376 00:15:13,371 --> 00:15:15,373 ♪ Some people livin' wise ♪ 377 00:15:15,373 --> 00:15:18,000 ♪ Because they were afraid to reach the skies ♪ 378 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,088 STEPHEN: Mazini Academy was started in 2019. 379 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:24,841 And for about $2,000, 380 00:15:24,841 --> 00:15:27,218 you could get stock tips from Jay, 381 00:15:27,218 --> 00:15:28,553 learn how to trade stocks, 382 00:15:28,553 --> 00:15:31,264 learn how to invest wisely. 383 00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:32,849 - Mazini Academy, 384 00:15:32,849 --> 00:15:34,976 educating people in stocks, Forex. 385 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:36,727 ABDUL: He used the stock market to get rich. 386 00:15:36,727 --> 00:15:38,187 And he wants, you know, 387 00:15:38,187 --> 00:15:39,397 you to follow in those footsteps. 388 00:15:39,397 --> 00:15:41,524 And he said, of course, 389 00:15:41,524 --> 00:15:43,943 "The first 100 people who register will get..." 390 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,278 - $20,000 each too, 391 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,488 which accumulates to $2 million. 392 00:15:47,488 --> 00:15:48,739 This is not a raffle. 393 00:15:48,739 --> 00:15:49,949 It's more of a educational-- 394 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:51,367 you're benefiting anyways. 395 00:15:51,367 --> 00:15:52,535 - So I'm like, "This is it for me. 396 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:53,786 "Let's--let's get in. 397 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:55,913 Let's get into the trading and investing." 398 00:15:57,832 --> 00:15:59,292 The academy is set up 399 00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:00,960 through a medium called Discord. 400 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:05,173 And the way it was set up was very, very professional. 401 00:16:05,173 --> 00:16:06,591 The classes were legitimate. 402 00:16:06,591 --> 00:16:07,925 [notification chimes] 403 00:16:09,051 --> 00:16:10,803 You can see the amount of people online 404 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:11,804 in the Discord channel. 405 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:13,514 When Jay Mazini came on, 406 00:16:13,514 --> 00:16:15,266 you saw the green lights start lighting up 407 00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:16,434 and more members started coming on like, 408 00:16:16,434 --> 00:16:18,186 "Oh, my God, Jay Mazini's on. 409 00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:19,478 Let's go see him." And he was, like, truly-- 410 00:16:19,478 --> 00:16:20,855 you could see that celebrity in him. 411 00:16:20,855 --> 00:16:24,275 Like, "Relax, people, he's-- he's just a person." 412 00:16:24,275 --> 00:16:26,819 One day he comes on and says, 413 00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:31,073 "Guys, I have a little bit of a treat or a gift to you. 414 00:16:31,073 --> 00:16:32,366 "What if I were to tell you that there was a stock 415 00:16:32,366 --> 00:16:33,618 "that you would trade and you'd make 416 00:16:33,618 --> 00:16:34,952 "a lot of money off today? 417 00:16:34,952 --> 00:16:36,495 Do you wanna know what it is?" 418 00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:38,289 - People say, "Yes," "yes," "yes," "oh, my God." 419 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:39,916 Girls heart-eye'd Jay Mazini. 420 00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:42,001 And we're waiting for him, and he took a pause 421 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:45,922 and he said, "PSV." 422 00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:49,175 It was basically a tanker company 423 00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:51,177 that, like, holds oil. [chuckles] 424 00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:52,303 And he's like, 425 00:16:52,303 --> 00:16:53,679 "If you guys get in right now, 426 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:56,557 you'd get to be making a lot of money." 427 00:16:56,557 --> 00:16:58,059 So I take $4,000. 428 00:16:58,059 --> 00:16:59,769 It was money that, you know, me and my wife talked about, 429 00:16:59,769 --> 00:17:01,354 we saved over a period of time. 430 00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:06,150 And I put 99% of that money into this stock. 431 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:09,445 And I think for the first half an hour, 432 00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:11,239 the stocks didn't go up. 433 00:17:11,239 --> 00:17:13,157 [tense music] 434 00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:15,910 Started going from $1.12, 435 00:17:15,910 --> 00:17:19,497 $1.15, $1.23... 436 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,124 People were asking like, "When should we sell? 437 00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,751 When should we sell?" We're taking his direction. 438 00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:25,294 People believed in him. 439 00:17:25,294 --> 00:17:28,798 ♪ ♪ 440 00:17:28,798 --> 00:17:30,007 And I remember after lunch 441 00:17:30,007 --> 00:17:31,384 when the stocks started going down, 442 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:32,552 he says, "Oh, just-- just the sharks 443 00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:33,719 are comin' out later. The sharks." 444 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:34,720 Whatever the hell that means, 445 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,888 "The sharks are comin' out." 446 00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:37,306 I didn't even know what that means. 447 00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:38,975 But--but, basically, he was doin' his best 448 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:40,101 to assure us that, you know, 449 00:17:40,101 --> 00:17:41,560 we'll get out of this okay. 450 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,937 [notification chimes] 451 00:17:45,982 --> 00:17:48,859 And it went under a dollar at the end of that day. 452 00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:50,444 And it just kept going lower and lower. 453 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:51,988 And I think people, at that point, 454 00:17:51,988 --> 00:17:53,698 were really concerned about Jay Mazini. 455 00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:56,284 They were really thinkin' at that point like, 456 00:17:56,284 --> 00:17:58,703 "He left us out to dry." 457 00:17:58,703 --> 00:17:59,996 He did mention to us, 458 00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:01,497 "You're doing this at your own risk." 459 00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:03,124 He said that to us. 460 00:18:03,124 --> 00:18:04,333 But... [sighs] 461 00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:07,044 I had a lot of faith in that man. 462 00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:08,462 I should have pulled out at that point and said, 463 00:18:08,462 --> 00:18:09,797 "Cut your losses, man. 464 00:18:09,797 --> 00:18:11,757 You don't know shit about this-- about this stock." 465 00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:14,135 "Get out." I didn't get out. 466 00:18:17,221 --> 00:18:19,557 STEPHEN: Influence is powerful stuff. 467 00:18:19,557 --> 00:18:22,518 You can inspire people to improve themselves. 468 00:18:22,518 --> 00:18:25,688 You can also inspire people to give you money 469 00:18:25,688 --> 00:18:29,400 based on the idea you're gonna get them rich. 470 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,943 KARIM: You could kind of tell by his videos 471 00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:34,071 that he was always going on to the next big thing. 472 00:18:34,071 --> 00:18:36,449 That's how he kind of pulled more people in. 473 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:39,118 And that big thing was Halal Capital. 474 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:41,495 ♪ ♪ 475 00:18:41,495 --> 00:18:43,247 "Halal" is something that's permissible, 476 00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:46,125 that's not against our faith. 477 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,293 In Islam, we have 478 00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:48,711 a very strict way of investing. 479 00:18:48,711 --> 00:18:50,463 You can't just invest in anything. 480 00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:52,298 So they would trust someone who is Muslim 481 00:18:52,298 --> 00:18:53,507 like Jay Mazini. 482 00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:55,217 And they would put money into his foundations 483 00:18:55,217 --> 00:18:57,470 or his funds or whatever investments he's doing, 484 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:58,971 because he was saying that he's doing 485 00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,389 the halal investments. 486 00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:02,683 - I'm showin' the world what Islam really is, 487 00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:03,851 how we're raised to be. 488 00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:08,147 WALLY: I think that key word "halal" 489 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,982 just offered a lot of, like, comfort 490 00:19:09,982 --> 00:19:11,692 when you wanna invest. 491 00:19:11,692 --> 00:19:13,194 In our belief, we have to stay 492 00:19:13,194 --> 00:19:16,322 away from things that offer gambling or alcohol. 493 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:18,324 Different things like that, you know? 494 00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:20,409 When Halal Capital was formed, 495 00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,787 it was supposed to be an investing company 496 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:25,289 started by Jay Mazini. 497 00:19:25,289 --> 00:19:26,916 The first time I heard about it 498 00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:27,958 was through my cousin. 499 00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:29,418 He explained it to me 500 00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:32,588 that Halal Capital was buying merchandise, okay? 501 00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:34,507 And they would-- they would buy it in bulk 502 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:35,674 and resell it, 503 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,593 that he was getting paid on monthly flips. 504 00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:40,262 So if you invest this much, 505 00:19:40,262 --> 00:19:41,722 you would get this return. 506 00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:43,182 If you invest a little bit more, 507 00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:44,642 it's a higher return. 508 00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:46,560 And he would just, you know, show me 509 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,937 that they were getting returns and saying, 510 00:19:47,937 --> 00:19:49,313 "Hey, so far, so good." 511 00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:53,526 This was, like, March of 2020. 512 00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:56,779 Times were pretty tough as far as business-wise. 513 00:19:56,779 --> 00:19:59,407 And they were offering products 514 00:19:59,407 --> 00:20:00,658 that people were short of. 515 00:20:02,785 --> 00:20:05,579 They know that masks are in short supply. 516 00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:08,416 They knew hand sanitizer was in short supply. 517 00:20:08,416 --> 00:20:10,501 They have these items 518 00:20:10,501 --> 00:20:12,795 and the hospitals needed them. 519 00:20:12,795 --> 00:20:15,464 The stores needed them. 520 00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:18,217 So we got a text message letting us know 521 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:20,219 that there's a monthly flip coming 522 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,680 which involved hand sanitizer. 523 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,350 So I thought maybe it's a good idea 524 00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:29,854 to take whatever we have saved, um-- 525 00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:32,982 it would-- it's a substantial amount. 526 00:20:32,982 --> 00:20:36,444 I'm gonna say it's a few hundred thousand dollars. 527 00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:38,446 We thought that this is-- 528 00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:40,364 you know, this is a homerun. 529 00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:42,992 ♪ ♪ 530 00:20:42,992 --> 00:20:44,952 [seagulls calling] 531 00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:47,413 Yeah, the time for payment would come. 532 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:50,040 We would message him and he would say, 533 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,417 "Okay, you know, 534 00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:53,794 "Ramadan celebration's gonna hit this time. 535 00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:55,379 "I'm sorry, but, you know, 536 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:56,505 there's gonna be a little delay." 537 00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,841 We understood. We let that go. 538 00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,301 So a week passes by 539 00:21:00,301 --> 00:21:03,137 after our promised, uh, deadline of getting paid, 540 00:21:03,137 --> 00:21:06,390 and no-- we don't hear anything. 541 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:08,225 I start, like, asking questions. 542 00:21:08,225 --> 00:21:10,853 I asked my cousin to see if they got anything. 543 00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:12,354 And I contact the--the mosque 544 00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:14,815 because they also got in as well. 545 00:21:14,815 --> 00:21:17,735 It was the whole community. It wasn't just our family. 546 00:21:17,735 --> 00:21:20,112 At that time, looking at his profile 547 00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:22,031 and kind of trying to get an idea 548 00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:24,033 of who we're dealing with here, 549 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:25,576 it didn't make us feel too good 550 00:21:25,576 --> 00:21:29,163 because we knew that he had a different persona. 551 00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:34,168 I did try to confront Jay myself, okay? 552 00:21:34,168 --> 00:21:35,586 I was like, "Hey, listen, 553 00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:37,796 we invested a substantial amount of money." 554 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:40,007 He gave me a story saying that-- 555 00:21:40,007 --> 00:21:43,052 that he had 18 duffel bags' worth of-- 556 00:21:43,052 --> 00:21:47,389 full of money, and he got stuck up. 557 00:21:47,389 --> 00:21:50,643 In what world do you walk around 558 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:54,939 carrying 18 duffle bags' worth of cash? 559 00:21:54,939 --> 00:21:58,776 You know, we-- we didn't believe it for a bit. 560 00:21:58,776 --> 00:22:00,194 However, at that time, 561 00:22:00,194 --> 00:22:01,820 we didn't want to go full force 562 00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:03,531 and ruin his reputation. 563 00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:05,950 Because we didn't want to risk him losing more money 564 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:08,285 so we couldn't get paid. 565 00:22:08,285 --> 00:22:09,703 So we kind of held our tongues. 566 00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:11,455 And we held our stance, saying, 567 00:22:11,455 --> 00:22:13,749 "Okay, let him do what he needs to do 568 00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:15,584 to sell his merchandise." 569 00:22:15,584 --> 00:22:18,754 He still had that whole Mazini Academy. 570 00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:21,382 STEPHEN: There's a real skill set to being a scammer. 571 00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:23,926 In a large way, the way he's getting away with it is because 572 00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:28,722 nobody with a big platform is calling out what he's doing. 573 00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:30,474 ABDUL: I started to believe that 574 00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:33,477 he really scammed us. 575 00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:34,728 That stock was filing 576 00:22:34,728 --> 00:22:36,647 for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. 577 00:22:36,647 --> 00:22:38,482 That's a key, important information, Jay. 578 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,109 Like, you should have told us, right? 579 00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:41,569 You should have at least told us, 580 00:22:41,569 --> 00:22:44,572 "This company is going through Chapter 11 proceedings. 581 00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,240 They're gonna go bankrupt." 582 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,200 And that wasn't told to us. 583 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,119 He used the academy to, what's called in the, 584 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,495 you know, the financial industry, 585 00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:52,830 a pump and dump. 586 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,540 And a pump and dump is when someone has 587 00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,876 a position in a stock, meaning that they owned 588 00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:58,419 a number of shares in that stock. 589 00:22:58,419 --> 00:23:01,380 And he basically convinced the masses and his students 590 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,340 to invest in that stock, 591 00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:06,176 which caused an up-tick for that stock to go higher. 592 00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:07,595 And once it hit that desired point, 593 00:23:07,595 --> 00:23:10,055 he can get out of his position. 594 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:12,057 That's what I believe he did, right? 595 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,475 Because he understood that we were new 596 00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:15,269 and he could take advantage of that emotion 597 00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:16,854 and of his image. 598 00:23:19,023 --> 00:23:21,775 WALLY: Jay Mazini, he was an online sensation. 599 00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:23,527 He was out there giving out money, 600 00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:24,945 giving out prizes. 601 00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:26,196 But that money 602 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:27,323 that he was giving out at that time, 603 00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:28,782 we had a feeling. 604 00:23:28,782 --> 00:23:31,368 We had a feeling that he was giving out our money. 605 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:34,163 - I'll be giving away $10,000 ea-- 606 00:23:34,163 --> 00:23:35,873 this is just an example. 607 00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:37,958 AMJAD: He was on Instagram Live, 608 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:39,627 paying people's rent... 609 00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:40,794 PERSON: Thank you so much. 610 00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:41,837 I respect that. 611 00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:43,839 I knew--I knew I won. 612 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:45,424 - Yeah, you won. God bless. 613 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:47,676 AMJAD: But he owed me, like, $1,000. 614 00:23:47,676 --> 00:23:49,762 I was still doing business with him at the time. 615 00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:53,140 And it's like, I'm supposed to be his friend. 616 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:55,684 So I was constantly telling people 617 00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:57,144 to watch out for Jay. 618 00:23:57,144 --> 00:24:00,272 "Do not give him your money. Do not trust him. 619 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:03,108 He's going to screw you over." 620 00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:06,320 And no one ever believed me. 621 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,948 Everybody just kept dismissing me as a lunatic, 622 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:11,909 and it drove me insane. 623 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:14,954 It was--it-- it drove me into depression. 624 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:17,956 I--you know, I--I tried to recover on my own, 625 00:24:17,956 --> 00:24:20,542 but when you don't have that many friends 626 00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:22,962 because they all sided with Jay, 627 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:24,922 there's not much to do. 628 00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:30,135 But the Jay Mazini scam page helped bring that message out. 629 00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:33,138 [dramatic music] 630 00:24:34,431 --> 00:24:36,517 STEPHEN: A bunch of pages popped up on Instagram 631 00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:38,143 basically saying all the things 632 00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:39,895 that he was saying was a lie. 633 00:24:39,895 --> 00:24:41,522 They'd talk about victim testimonials. 634 00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:45,150 ♪ ♪ 635 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:48,070 A lot of people started coming out with Jay, 636 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:49,780 especially from the giveaways. 637 00:24:58,372 --> 00:25:01,625 STEPHEN: Of course, the reality was... 638 00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:04,837 people weren't actually getting the money. 639 00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:06,213 PERSON: There's no money. 640 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:18,559 AMJAD: So I started talking to the scam page. 641 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,060 I was like, "I have some stuff that-- 642 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:21,937 some content you could add to your page, you know?" 643 00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:25,107 Yo, Jay, stop lying to people. 644 00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:26,775 Stop acting shady online. 645 00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:28,360 Stop putting up this front, 646 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,113 because you are not who you say you are. 647 00:25:31,113 --> 00:25:32,656 I laid it out straight. 648 00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:35,868 I said, "You know, stop tryna present yourself 649 00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:38,328 "like you're this prophetic figure 650 00:25:38,328 --> 00:25:40,789 "or somebody who deserves to be 651 00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:42,916 "a--a power of influence at all, 652 00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:44,418 "because you're a fake. 653 00:25:44,418 --> 00:25:46,086 "And, eventually, 654 00:25:46,086 --> 00:25:48,088 it's all gonna come crashing down on you." 655 00:25:53,927 --> 00:25:55,971 WALLY: Back in the homeland, 656 00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:58,807 if there was a dispute with another family, 657 00:25:58,807 --> 00:26:01,643 you would get your clan or tribe 658 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:05,522 to go talk to members of their family. 659 00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:07,232 And with Jay, 660 00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,609 some people did go over 661 00:26:08,609 --> 00:26:10,944 to speak to his family. 662 00:26:10,944 --> 00:26:12,070 And it wasn't very successful. 663 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:16,241 Like, um, his dad just told them 664 00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,702 that, you know, "He kind of does his own thing. 665 00:26:18,702 --> 00:26:20,579 He doesn't live here anymore." 666 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:23,082 It just--it gave us, like, more worries 667 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:25,918 than--than anything positive. 668 00:26:30,881 --> 00:26:33,592 JEREMY: Everybody wants their pound of flesh. 669 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:34,927 When you feel you've been victimized, 670 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,346 you--you want to be made whole again. 671 00:26:37,346 --> 00:26:39,306 And the way you do that is by filing 672 00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:41,642 usually a lawsuit against that person. 673 00:26:41,642 --> 00:26:44,019 And in this case, Jay's family was getting 674 00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:46,480 roped into this mess through a civil suit. 675 00:26:47,815 --> 00:26:49,942 My name is Jeremy Feigenbaum. 676 00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:51,151 The firm has dealt with a number 677 00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,445 of high-profile individuals, 678 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:56,281 probably the most famous of which would be Anna Delvey. 679 00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:57,491 ANCHOR 1: Delvey, whose real name 680 00:26:57,491 --> 00:26:59,910 is Anna Sorokin is a scam artist. 681 00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:02,079 ANCHOR 2: Overnight, a New York City jury 682 00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:03,914 finding socialite Anna Sorokin, 683 00:27:03,914 --> 00:27:05,791 the so-called "Soho Grifter," 684 00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:07,501 guilty on eight counts 685 00:27:07,501 --> 00:27:10,295 including grand larceny, attempted grand larceny, 686 00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:12,756 and theft of services. 687 00:27:12,756 --> 00:27:16,426 JEREMY: Charisma is a huge, huge factor in all of this. 688 00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:19,471 The reason she was able to be Anna Delvey 689 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,766 is because she had such immense levels of charisma, 690 00:27:22,766 --> 00:27:25,894 where you just couldn't help but wanna talk with her 691 00:27:25,894 --> 00:27:28,689 and become her friend. 692 00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:30,732 Anna and Jay, many similarities 693 00:27:30,732 --> 00:27:33,527 to how they operate, in my opinion. 694 00:27:33,527 --> 00:27:35,320 I first heard about Jay 695 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,990 when Jay and his family came to us 696 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:39,616 with respect to claims 697 00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,159 that were being made against him. 698 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:43,620 From allegations about people not getting 699 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:45,622 the types of packages that he promised, 700 00:27:45,622 --> 00:27:47,875 or gifts that he said he would send... 701 00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:49,293 PERSON: [scoffs] Ain't nothin'. 702 00:27:49,293 --> 00:27:51,295 Knew nothin' wasn't gonna be in here. 703 00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:53,171 JEREMY: To people investing their cash 704 00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:56,717 and the money wasn't returned when requested. 705 00:27:56,717 --> 00:27:59,428 Some of the individuals involved with that 706 00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:01,763 were very angry at what they believed 707 00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:03,724 Jay had done with some their cash. 708 00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:05,392 WALLY: I--I just don't know 709 00:28:05,392 --> 00:28:07,436 what he thought was gonna happen. 710 00:28:07,436 --> 00:28:09,396 Like, there was no consequences 711 00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:11,231 goin' through his mind saying, 712 00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:13,150 "Okay, I'm just gonna rob these people 713 00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:15,444 and now I'll just sail into the sunset"? 714 00:28:15,444 --> 00:28:17,279 I mean, of course, we want our money back. 715 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:18,739 But I personally, 716 00:28:18,739 --> 00:28:20,824 I just wanna see justice being served, right? 717 00:28:20,824 --> 00:28:22,534 JEREMY: Jay's family came to us, obviously, 718 00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:25,078 fairly distressed and upset about what was going on. 719 00:28:25,078 --> 00:28:27,247 The plaintiffs alleged direct fraud 720 00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:28,498 against Jay himself. 721 00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:29,750 And then against the family, 722 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:31,418 they alleged aiding and abetting. 723 00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:32,878 And they were, obviously, very much wanting 724 00:28:32,878 --> 00:28:34,880 to protect Jay and themselves rightfully. 725 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,632 And I think they wanted to figure out 726 00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:39,426 what exactly was going on. 727 00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:42,137 ABDUL: The academy was becoming very toxic. 728 00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:44,097 We all lost a lot of money and we need an explanation. 729 00:28:44,097 --> 00:28:46,224 We need to talk-- talk this through. 730 00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:49,102 And, um, Jay Mazini never showed up, 731 00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:52,856 never explained to us what happened. 732 00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:54,399 And that's when I started devising a plan 733 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:57,277 on how we could bring this person to justice. 734 00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:59,613 Started looking into what we could do with the SCC. 735 00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:03,367 I went on the SCC website and I filled out a complaint. 736 00:29:05,327 --> 00:29:07,746 Nobody took action, and at this point, like, 737 00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:08,997 the more he's able to continue this, 738 00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:10,540 the more people were scammed. 739 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:13,669 - I'll be placin' in $40,000 in each order. 740 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:16,171 ABDUL: 100 people, $40,000? 741 00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:19,466 Your clothes are gonna cost, like, what, 150 bucks, $100? 742 00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:23,553 You're givin' out $40,000-- how does that make sense? 743 00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,347 He was getting desperate. 744 00:29:25,347 --> 00:29:27,391 I think he just kept digging himself a bigger hole. 745 00:29:27,391 --> 00:29:28,934 And that's why those scams became-- 746 00:29:28,934 --> 00:29:32,145 they were more, like, important to him. 747 00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:33,438 STEPHEN: I think with Jay, 748 00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:35,482 you did see an escalation. 749 00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:36,692 I was on the phone a lot 750 00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:38,485 talking to the various victims of Jay. 751 00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:39,695 When I first started, 752 00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:41,905 it was all about the giveaway scams. 753 00:29:41,905 --> 00:29:43,949 And then he would try to start up some new schemes. 754 00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:45,909 - Regarding the Mazini Academy, 755 00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:47,911 I've already selected ten people 756 00:29:47,911 --> 00:29:50,038 which I'll be giving $5,000 each to 757 00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:51,832 which accumulates... STEPHEN: But he was pivoting 758 00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:53,834 almost as fast as I could report on it. 759 00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:55,877 - Now, I'll be starting up a new campaign. 760 00:29:57,587 --> 00:30:00,257 STEPHEN: He started talking a lot about crypto currencies. 761 00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:04,302 Specifically, he wanted to buy it from the fans. 762 00:30:04,302 --> 00:30:06,179 He told people that he was going to buy 763 00:30:06,179 --> 00:30:10,517 Bitcoin from them for 5%-10% over market value. 764 00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:12,060 And the reason he was gonna do this 765 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,813 is because he wanted to buy so much of it 766 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:16,732 that crypto exchanges 767 00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:19,735 literally wouldn't let him buy so much. 768 00:30:19,735 --> 00:30:21,069 Once Jay got someone 769 00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:22,696 who was willing to buy him some Bitcoin, 770 00:30:22,696 --> 00:30:25,949 he'd say, "Just send me the Bitcoin first 771 00:30:25,949 --> 00:30:27,868 "and I will send you the wire same day. 772 00:30:27,868 --> 00:30:29,870 It'll just take a little bit." 773 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:31,163 So pretty quickly, 774 00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:33,665 these wires didn't actually get through. 775 00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:36,710 And people realized they had joined the list 776 00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:38,879 of Jay's victims, and they got in touch with me. 777 00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:41,798 - He said, "Oh, oh, I sent your account 500,000. 778 00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:43,633 Uh, go check your account I sent you the confirmation." 779 00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:45,218 Two, three days later, there's nothing. 780 00:30:45,218 --> 00:30:46,678 There's no money. There's nothing. 781 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,138 The confirmation's a made-up number. 782 00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:50,766 I'm hoping to God he rots in jail. 783 00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:52,225 STEPHEN: Jay was so shameless. 784 00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:54,186 He would show them his passport, his ID. 785 00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:55,854 He would show them it's not a scam. 786 00:30:57,439 --> 00:30:59,775 Who shows their passport to somebody 787 00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:03,779 when they're about to allegedly fake a wire transfer? 788 00:31:05,572 --> 00:31:07,115 That's where I realized, 789 00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:11,203 "Oh, well, this is almost certainly another crime." 790 00:31:11,203 --> 00:31:13,580 You can't fake a wire transfer. 791 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:19,169 AMJAD: Coffeezilla really did great detective work 792 00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:20,754 on Jay Mazini 793 00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:25,092 and catapulted the attention onto the scam page. 794 00:31:25,092 --> 00:31:27,594 It started blowing up in views. 795 00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:30,806 And it was-- it got so much attention. 796 00:31:30,806 --> 00:31:33,058 Because of how popular it was getting, 797 00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:35,894 when you would search "Jay Mazini," 798 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:38,688 right underneath it would say "Jay Mazini scam." 799 00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:40,649 [laughs] And he hated it 800 00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:43,401 because he was so used to everybody supporting him. 801 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:46,196 And now all of a sudden, everyone's against him. 802 00:31:46,196 --> 00:31:50,117 - Scammin' how? Scammin' how? 803 00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:53,662 I got a clothes line. I got an academy. 804 00:31:53,662 --> 00:31:56,623 We sell clothes. We teach stocks. 805 00:31:56,623 --> 00:32:01,128 AMJAD: So I was a heavy supporter of this page. 806 00:32:01,128 --> 00:32:02,963 And, uh, it wasn't me, 807 00:32:02,963 --> 00:32:05,632 but I thought it would be funny 808 00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:08,885 to spread a rumor that it was me. 809 00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:13,849 STEPHEN: MJ was one of the people I spoke to. 810 00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:15,767 Jay Mazini and him have a past. 811 00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:17,269 They went to school together. 812 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,688 And he would always kind of make fun of Jay, 813 00:32:19,688 --> 00:32:21,356 tease Jay. 814 00:32:21,356 --> 00:32:24,151 And MJ started to tell Jay Mazini 815 00:32:24,151 --> 00:32:27,654 that he actually ran the scam page-- 816 00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:30,115 the thing that was ruining Jay Mazini's life. 817 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,285 ♪ ♪ 818 00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:35,704 Jay Mazini was under a lot of pressure. 819 00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:38,290 He started to get really paranoid. 820 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,709 Reportedly, he was hiring bodyguards 821 00:32:40,709 --> 00:32:42,794 for $7,000 a week, 822 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,839 trying to ensure a crumbling sense of security. 823 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,092 - Fake allegations. Fake accusations. 824 00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:51,386 Try to tarnish me. You can't tarnish greatness. 825 00:32:51,386 --> 00:32:52,762 You can't curse what God blessed. 826 00:32:52,762 --> 00:32:54,389 STEPHEN: You can see his ego 827 00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:56,433 bumping up against all the allegations 828 00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:58,351 that were starting to come out around this time. 829 00:32:58,351 --> 00:33:00,145 Like, "You can't tarnish greatness." 830 00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:02,397 That's who Jay thought of himself as. 831 00:33:02,397 --> 00:33:04,608 Like, he really thought he was great. 832 00:33:04,608 --> 00:33:07,611 And he thought he was above the rules. 833 00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:09,529 ABDUL: You disrespected us. 834 00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:11,281 You basically threatened people that, 835 00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:13,241 "If you guys say this is a scam, 836 00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:14,618 you're kicked out. You're gone." 837 00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:16,494 So he tried to silence people. 838 00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:18,205 And I'm like, "You're-- you're not gonna silence me. 839 00:33:18,205 --> 00:33:19,456 "You're not gonna silence the people 840 00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:22,584 that lost this money. Like, it's on now." 841 00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:23,877 AMJAD: It was getting so much traction. 842 00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:25,503 People were starting to follow the page. 843 00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:27,172 We're getting new people every single day 844 00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:28,381 with new stories. 845 00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:29,883 Everybody would share their story 846 00:33:29,883 --> 00:33:31,927 and how they lost money with Jay. 847 00:33:31,927 --> 00:33:35,347 So the scam page was destroying 848 00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:37,933 Jay's reputation, his authenticity, 849 00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:39,851 his trust with his audience. 850 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:43,688 He was literally spiraling out of control. 851 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:45,273 And, uh, I enjoyed every minute of it. 852 00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:48,735 STEPHEN: So as things started heating up, 853 00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:51,488 Jay disables his own Instagram account. 854 00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:55,325 When you shut down your page, 855 00:33:55,325 --> 00:33:56,785 it's like closing your shop. 856 00:33:56,785 --> 00:33:58,662 Your entire income stream stops 857 00:33:58,662 --> 00:34:01,081 in the case of someone like Jay. 858 00:34:01,081 --> 00:34:04,084 That was the turning point where I realized 859 00:34:04,084 --> 00:34:06,628 that things were starting to get to him. 860 00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:08,505 Then things went to a whole other level. 861 00:34:08,505 --> 00:34:10,757 ♪ ♪ 862 00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:16,638 [suspenseful music] 863 00:34:16,638 --> 00:34:18,515 AMJAD: The Jay Mazini scam page 864 00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:20,725 was ruining his reputation so much. 865 00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:22,852 And so many people in the community 866 00:34:22,852 --> 00:34:24,229 started talking about it. 867 00:34:24,229 --> 00:34:28,984 And Jay believed that I was running the page. 868 00:34:28,984 --> 00:34:30,610 It was a joke, 869 00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:32,612 but people really took it seriously. 870 00:34:33,863 --> 00:34:36,616 So it's 2:00 a.m. in the morning. 871 00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:40,120 I get a friendly phone call from Jay Mazini. 872 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,621 I was like... [clicks tongue] 873 00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:45,250 Know what? All right. I'll meet up with you. 874 00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:48,461 So I went to Edgewater, 875 00:34:48,461 --> 00:34:50,171 parked my car, 876 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:51,631 and then I saw Jay. 877 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:56,303 I was like--I haven't seen him in, like, almost three years. 878 00:34:56,303 --> 00:34:57,512 I was like, "Hey, what's up, man? 879 00:34:57,512 --> 00:35:00,056 You got fat there, buddy. How's it goin'?" 880 00:35:00,056 --> 00:35:02,934 He goes, "Oh, it's good, man." 881 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:05,645 Jump into the car. We start drivin'. 882 00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:08,440 And I turn to him, I'm like, "Yo, listen. 883 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,899 "What's goin' on? 884 00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:12,402 "What's all this, like, scams, money? 885 00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:14,863 "You pissed off a lot of Muslims. 886 00:35:14,863 --> 00:35:16,823 So what happened? Tell me." 887 00:35:16,823 --> 00:35:18,325 He goes, "Nah, man, it wasn't me. 888 00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:20,243 "I swear to God. I'm just tryna like, 889 00:35:20,243 --> 00:35:21,620 "you know, raise a family. 890 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,163 "Like, I got a son coming soon. 891 00:35:23,163 --> 00:35:25,665 Like, I'm just tryna get my stuff together." 892 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,419 We finally get to the 7-Eleven. 893 00:35:29,419 --> 00:35:31,254 You know, I--I wasn't looking behind me, 894 00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:33,506 but the door opens. 895 00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:35,091 I look back and I'm just like, 896 00:35:35,091 --> 00:35:37,552 "Who the hell are these guys?" 897 00:35:37,552 --> 00:35:40,013 It's just two Black men with hoodies on. 898 00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:41,640 And then he starts driving off. 899 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,516 [engine revs] 900 00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:45,769 And he goes, "Don't worry. We're not gonna hurt you." 901 00:35:45,769 --> 00:35:48,688 I was like, "Really? Really? You--you're not gonna hurt me? 902 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:50,023 Who are these guys?" I was like-- 903 00:35:50,023 --> 00:35:53,193 I was like, "Yo, what's your name, buddy? 904 00:35:53,193 --> 00:35:55,111 We good? You don't want to shake my hand." 905 00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:56,988 I was like, "Oh, you don't want to shake my hand? 906 00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:58,073 "You don't want to shake my hand? 907 00:35:58,073 --> 00:35:59,366 Oh, okay." 908 00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:02,827 At that point, I have to strategize. 909 00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:05,872 What am I gonna do? These guys have me in the car. 910 00:36:05,872 --> 00:36:09,167 So as soon as we pulled up to Chase Bank, 911 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:12,003 I pop the door open and I run. 912 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:15,173 Start running like I'm running the race of my life right now. 913 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,093 I made a quick left, saw a alleyway. 914 00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:20,553 But it was a dead end. "What do I do? What do I do?" 915 00:36:20,553 --> 00:36:22,430 I see a staircase. I'm like, "Cool. Staircase." 916 00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:23,973 I run up the staircase. 917 00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:26,434 ♪ ♪ 918 00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,354 It's a frickin' balcony. 919 00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,940 I--I made a jump. [chuckles] 920 00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,692 I jumped from the second floor. 921 00:36:36,361 --> 00:36:38,571 Unfortunately, I sprained my ankle. 922 00:36:38,571 --> 00:36:41,449 [panting, grunts] I couldn't run anymore. 923 00:36:41,449 --> 00:36:43,493 Got jumped by both guys 924 00:36:43,493 --> 00:36:46,663 right there in the middle of the street. 925 00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:49,624 They forced me to the back seat of the car. 926 00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:51,126 He says, "Where's your phone, man?" 927 00:36:51,126 --> 00:36:52,710 I was like, "You want my phone?" 928 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:56,840 They wanted my phone because they believed 929 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,468 that I was running the Jay Mazini scam page. 930 00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:03,555 I gave him my phone. I let him take the password. 931 00:37:03,555 --> 00:37:05,140 Even through all that, 932 00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:06,558 they still couldn't get the page 933 00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:09,811 because I was never in charge of the page. 934 00:37:09,811 --> 00:37:12,647 He goes, "All right. We'll see about that." 935 00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:15,650 He's driving me to Passaic. 936 00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:18,528 And he goes and he picks up another man. 937 00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,239 This is pretty much the man that they've hired 938 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,991 to beat the page out of me. 939 00:37:22,991 --> 00:37:26,828 [panting] 940 00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:29,581 They take me to a basement. 941 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:32,125 And they strip me down to everything. 942 00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,085 I was, like, completely naked. 943 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,838 ♪ ♪ 944 00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:40,383 And this guy's got a machete up to my neck. 945 00:37:40,383 --> 00:37:42,177 He starts punching me in the head 946 00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:43,970 and, like, yelling at me. 947 00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:46,014 Like, Arabic slurs. 948 00:37:46,014 --> 00:37:48,892 He's like, "We would kill you from where we come from." 949 00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:50,977 ♪ ♪ 950 00:37:50,977 --> 00:37:53,730 He's like, "Where's the page?" 951 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,233 I'm like, "I'm telling you, I don't have it." 952 00:37:57,233 --> 00:37:59,652 [groaning] 953 00:38:01,738 --> 00:38:03,656 And Jay's just sitting there laughing 954 00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:05,450 like he thinks it's funny. 955 00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:08,369 ♪ ♪ 956 00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:09,621 He goes, "All right, you ready? 957 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:11,498 I'm gonna punch you. Are you ready?" 958 00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:12,916 I was like, "Dude, just freakin' do it. 959 00:38:12,916 --> 00:38:14,042 "I've been punched enough. Like, I don't-- 960 00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:15,710 "I don't even feel pain at this point. 961 00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:17,045 Just freakin' do it already." 962 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:20,423 Gives me a punch. 963 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,721 And he thinks that, like, it really hurt me. 964 00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:28,389 But when I took the punch, 965 00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:29,891 I kind of pretended to cry a little bit 966 00:38:29,891 --> 00:38:34,020 and I actually made him feel bad for me. 967 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:35,605 He was like, "Ohh, you know what? 968 00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:37,232 "That's--that's enough, man. We're done. 969 00:38:37,232 --> 00:38:38,816 Just--just let him go." 970 00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:43,530 ♪ ♪ 971 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:45,532 He dropped me in Edgewater 972 00:38:45,532 --> 00:38:48,159 and forced me to limp back to my car. 973 00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,538 ♪ ♪ 974 00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:54,749 What they did to me is--is, like, despicable, 975 00:38:54,749 --> 00:38:56,918 and there's no other words to explain 976 00:38:56,918 --> 00:38:58,461 what was going through my head. 977 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,422 And though--and I--I'm sorry, but I'm not a gangsta 978 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:03,633 who's gonna come and fire back at you. 979 00:39:03,633 --> 00:39:06,052 I'm gonna-- gonna do the right thing 980 00:39:06,052 --> 00:39:07,345 and go to the police. 981 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:10,265 ♪ ♪ 982 00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:12,308 STEPHEN: Ladies and gentlemen, it's true. 983 00:39:12,308 --> 00:39:15,770 Jay Mazini has been arrested. 984 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:18,773 And not for the reason you think. 985 00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:21,025 WALLY: Honestly, that was a surprise to us, 986 00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:22,652 what he was arrested for-- 987 00:39:22,652 --> 00:39:24,862 for kidnapping and beating. 988 00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:27,782 After doing that video with 50 Cent, 989 00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:30,451 I think he wanted to kind of take on 990 00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:33,037 a little bit more of a gangster type 991 00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,289 of, like, persona. 992 00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:35,790 So that was a little bit shocking. 993 00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:37,959 But at the same time, afterwards, it made sense. 994 00:39:37,959 --> 00:39:40,378 You know? ABDUL: But he was arrested. 995 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:44,507 We watched every moment of that 996 00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:47,176 on the New Jersey state website. 997 00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:48,553 It was so relieving to see this guy 998 00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:50,388 in an orange jumpsuit, oh, my God. 999 00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:53,391 [triumphant music] 1000 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,685 ♪ ♪ 1001 00:39:55,685 --> 00:39:57,937 JEREMY: On one hand, you have to be highly intelligent 1002 00:39:57,937 --> 00:39:59,522 to accomplish some of these things 1003 00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:01,482 that these influencers have done. 1004 00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:02,900 But at the same time, 1005 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,569 to sometimes act in a manner 1006 00:40:04,569 --> 00:40:06,154 that's so contrary to your interest, 1007 00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:07,780 it's baffling. 1008 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:09,699 How did you see this going? 1009 00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:12,535 You kidnap someone, more likely than not, 1010 00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,412 they're probably gonna go to the police. 1011 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:15,872 And then you're gonna have to deal with 1012 00:40:15,872 --> 00:40:19,292 those ramifications. 1013 00:40:19,292 --> 00:40:21,127 I just don't get it. 1014 00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:23,504 STEPHEN: I couldn't believe it. 1015 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:26,966 Obviously, I knew this guy was a scammer. 1016 00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:28,676 I had no idea he was capable of this. 1017 00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:34,015 ♪ ♪ 1018 00:40:36,142 --> 00:40:37,977 So Jay Mazini's getting arrested, 1019 00:40:37,977 --> 00:40:40,730 you would think that would be the end of it. 1020 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:43,066 But this story never stops. 1021 00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:45,818 ♪ ♪ 1022 00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:47,236 So right as all that's happening, 1023 00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:49,572 Jay Mazini's wife was allegedly trying 1024 00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:53,326 to bribe MJ to recant his story. 1025 00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:56,329 And I was hearing rumors that he might take it. 1026 00:40:56,329 --> 00:41:01,084 So I got on the phone with him and I recorded the call. 1027 00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:05,046 Yeah. I've never shared this before. 1028 00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:06,422 Here we go. 1029 00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:45,670 - You're hearing me realize for the first time 1030 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:49,048 that MJ's about to change his story 1031 00:41:49,048 --> 00:41:50,925 to try to get Jay Mazini out. 1032 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,016 [chuckles] 1033 00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:27,920 - The man got bribed! 1034 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,630 Yeah. [sighs] It's unbelievable. 1035 00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:33,301 ♪ ♪ 1036 00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:35,094 It was very clear at that point 1037 00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:37,847 that MJ was not after justice. 1038 00:42:37,847 --> 00:42:40,308 He was not after, you know, 1039 00:42:40,308 --> 00:42:42,351 making things right for the victims. 1040 00:42:42,351 --> 00:42:46,105 He was out for himself just like Jay was. 1041 00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,900 His angle was, "Well, no, this is my shot. 1042 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,986 This is my opportunity to get everything I want." 1043 00:42:51,986 --> 00:42:54,155 I can get Coffeezilla to get me clicks 1044 00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:55,615 and then I'm gonna get on the news. 1045 00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:57,241 And then I'm gonna get on a documentary. 1046 00:42:57,241 --> 00:42:59,786 I'm sure he's happy to talk to you guys. 1047 00:42:59,786 --> 00:43:04,499 And now he's in jail for accepting the bribe. 1048 00:43:04,499 --> 00:43:07,585 ♪ ♪ 1049 00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:10,171 AMJAD: I'm being charged with bribery. 1050 00:43:10,171 --> 00:43:14,967 They're saying that I was paid to change my statement. 1051 00:43:16,552 --> 00:43:18,346 The first statement that I gave 1052 00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:21,390 was right after the kidnapping. 1053 00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,893 And then after some time passed by, 1054 00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:27,230 you know, I learned some new information. 1055 00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:29,273 And I'm not gonna lie. 1056 00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:35,071 I was manipulated by even my own family to--to-- 1057 00:43:35,071 --> 00:43:38,366 to have a change of heart. 1058 00:43:38,366 --> 00:43:40,952 That was my biggest mistake. 1059 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:45,832 ♪ ♪ 1060 00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:47,208 [cell door clangs] 1061 00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:48,417 ANCHOR: In a complaint filed 1062 00:43:48,417 --> 00:43:50,795 in federal court in Brooklyn, 1063 00:43:50,795 --> 00:43:53,464 Jay Mazini, whose legal name is Jebara Igbara, 1064 00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:55,883 was charged with wire fraud. 1065 00:43:57,718 --> 00:43:59,971 STEPHEN: Jay Mazini ended up pleading guilty 1066 00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:01,222 to the kidnapping charge, 1067 00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:03,724 which he's gonna serve five years for. 1068 00:44:03,724 --> 00:44:06,144 On the Bitcoin wire fraud charges, 1069 00:44:06,144 --> 00:44:09,021 he potentially could serve 15 to 30 years. 1070 00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:12,108 And then Jay Mazini's wife was arrested too. 1071 00:44:12,108 --> 00:44:13,693 Her, along with other people, 1072 00:44:13,693 --> 00:44:15,695 are charged with trying to bribe 1073 00:44:15,695 --> 00:44:20,116 this guy right here who got beat up. 1074 00:44:20,116 --> 00:44:21,993 - Okay. Good afternoon, all. 1075 00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:24,912 Mr. Jebara, can you hear us and see us? 1076 00:44:24,912 --> 00:44:26,164 - Yes. 1077 00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:27,582 STEPHEN: I watched Jay Mazini's 1078 00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:29,333 first court hearing. 1079 00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,544 He's in an orange jumpsuit, 1080 00:44:31,544 --> 00:44:34,589 crying, because he's finally realizing 1081 00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:37,466 the magnitude of what he's done. 1082 00:44:39,260 --> 00:44:41,304 And...I don't know. 1083 00:44:41,304 --> 00:44:42,555 It was like the ending 1084 00:44:42,555 --> 00:44:44,473 of a really cathartic movie or something, 1085 00:44:44,473 --> 00:44:47,310 where the--the music sweeps in 1086 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:48,644 and you feel like 1087 00:44:48,644 --> 00:44:51,564 justice is finally being served here. 1088 00:44:51,564 --> 00:44:54,984 ♪ ♪ 1089 00:44:54,984 --> 00:44:56,319 JEREMY: So right now I'm flipping 1090 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:59,989 through the voluminous 52-page complaint 1091 00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:03,951 that was asserted against Jay and his family. 1092 00:45:03,951 --> 00:45:06,704 The allegations in here are wide-ranging, 1093 00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:08,414 alleging everything from 1094 00:45:08,414 --> 00:45:12,627 fake stories of being robbed to fraudulent promises 1095 00:45:12,627 --> 00:45:14,921 of fantastical returns on investments 1096 00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:16,589 to embezzling funds 1097 00:45:16,589 --> 00:45:19,383 and using them for personal purposes. 1098 00:45:19,383 --> 00:45:21,677 We got the case dismissed against the family, 1099 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:24,513 but Jay's got a lot in front of him. 1100 00:45:24,513 --> 00:45:27,475 And given some of these allegations, 1101 00:45:27,475 --> 00:45:30,353 the road that Jay has to travel 1102 00:45:30,353 --> 00:45:33,189 to get through all of his legal troubles 1103 00:45:33,189 --> 00:45:35,858 is not short. 1104 00:45:37,276 --> 00:45:39,779 WALLY: There's countless victims of Jay Mazini. 1105 00:45:39,779 --> 00:45:41,447 The ones that we know of. 1106 00:45:41,447 --> 00:45:42,657 But there's a lot of people 1107 00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:43,950 that they don't want to come out 1108 00:45:43,950 --> 00:45:45,326 and say anything, right? 1109 00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:47,912 There--there's the people that feel ashamed. 1110 00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:49,538 I mean, honestly, 1111 00:45:49,538 --> 00:45:51,040 everybody in the community felt ashamed. 1112 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,875 It transformed the community 1113 00:45:52,875 --> 00:45:54,794 from being so honest with each other 1114 00:45:54,794 --> 00:45:56,504 and giving and caring 1115 00:45:56,504 --> 00:45:58,339 and to be like, "Do I have to watch out 1116 00:45:58,339 --> 00:46:00,675 "for this person to be the next person 1117 00:46:00,675 --> 00:46:02,927 that's looking to take advantage?" 1118 00:46:02,927 --> 00:46:05,596 KARIM: When you scam people, it's never a good thing. 1119 00:46:05,596 --> 00:46:08,849 There's a reason why it's against our faith in Islam 1120 00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:10,851 that you're not supposed to do these types of things. 1121 00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:14,313 And I hope people don't equate us all 1122 00:46:14,313 --> 00:46:17,149 to one man's actions, you know? 1123 00:46:17,149 --> 00:46:18,901 ABDUL: He was able to really sell himself 1124 00:46:18,901 --> 00:46:20,945 on, you know, the fact that he was 1125 00:46:20,945 --> 00:46:21,988 this pious Muslim. 1126 00:46:21,988 --> 00:46:22,989 - I want to show you guys 1127 00:46:22,989 --> 00:46:24,740 the real definition of Islam. 1128 00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,325 ABDUL: That stuck a really strong chord with me. 1129 00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:28,411 I'm like, "You--you did this to other people. 1130 00:46:28,411 --> 00:46:30,496 "You used faith, 1131 00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:33,249 "something they're really devoted to, 1132 00:46:33,249 --> 00:46:35,501 and you take their money?" 1133 00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:36,836 That's why I was, like, so kind of, like, 1134 00:46:36,836 --> 00:46:38,879 passionate about getting this guy thrown in jail. 1135 00:46:41,090 --> 00:46:42,550 STEPHEN: I think what's so compelling 1136 00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:44,427 about social media 1137 00:46:44,427 --> 00:46:47,054 is just how deeply involved you can get 1138 00:46:47,054 --> 00:46:48,806 in someone's life 1139 00:46:48,806 --> 00:46:52,351 that can be a fake, that can be not real. 1140 00:46:52,351 --> 00:46:54,687 It could be constructed. 1141 00:46:54,687 --> 00:46:57,523 [soft dramatic music] 1142 00:46:57,523 --> 00:46:59,316 JEREMY: This power of the influencer 1143 00:46:59,316 --> 00:47:01,027 is very, very real. 1144 00:47:01,027 --> 00:47:02,945 In my opinion, social media enabled 1145 00:47:02,945 --> 00:47:05,114 this entire operation to occur. 1146 00:47:05,114 --> 00:47:07,658 It enabled Jay Mazini to exist. 1147 00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:09,160 Without social media, 1148 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,829 he would have always just been Jebara Igbara. 1149 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,165 - If you're suffering through a hardship 1150 00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:16,459 and you need help-- somebody to uplift you, 1151 00:47:16,459 --> 00:47:18,544 somebody to give you hope, somebody to, like-- 1152 00:47:18,544 --> 00:47:20,838 to hold the light at the end of the tunnel, 1153 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,882 I wanted to be that person. 1154 00:47:22,882 --> 00:47:25,634 I didn't do it for just the money. 1155 00:47:25,634 --> 00:47:27,928 I wanted to pave the way for the youth 1156 00:47:27,928 --> 00:47:30,556 so they could have something to look up to. 1157 00:47:30,556 --> 00:47:32,475 They could have hope. 1158 00:47:32,475 --> 00:47:35,519 This is, uh, 10,000. 1159 00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,188 - Oh, my God. 1160 00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:38,522 JAY: That's 10,000. I'm serious. 1161 00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:40,274 MOTHER: No, you not. 1162 00:47:40,274 --> 00:47:41,317 - Here's what's amazing, 1163 00:47:41,317 --> 00:47:43,194 I can't help but smile 1164 00:47:43,194 --> 00:47:45,738 when he gives this woman $10,000 1165 00:47:45,738 --> 00:47:48,574 even though I know where it came from. 1166 00:47:48,574 --> 00:47:51,911 That's just how powerful this kind of content is. 1167 00:47:51,911 --> 00:47:53,829 - Hope everybody enjoys this video. 1168 00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:55,081 Take care, you guys. 1169 00:47:55,081 --> 00:48:02,046 ♪ ♪ 86993

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