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[cell door rattles, clangs]
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- So we're doing everything?
Like, from beginning to end?
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INTERVIEWER: Yep.
- Like, the whole story?
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INTERVIEWER:
Yep, the whole story.
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- Okay, um...
[chuckles]
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Okay.
[cell door clangs]
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[mild music]
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Honestly, I--I really believe
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that you just can't trust
anybody anymore.
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Jay tried
to paint this picture
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that he was trying to bring
peace to the world.
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- That's 10,000 for you.
- Oh, my God.
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- That's 10,000 for you.
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[fireworks explode]
I just wanna show love.
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My name is Jay Mazini.
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AMJAD:
Like, he helps the poor people
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and he's a great Muslim.
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[indistinct chatter]
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JAY:
Jay Mazini.
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- What is your name?
Who are you?
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Like, wha--
JAY: My name is Jay Mazini.
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Jay Mazini.
- Jay Mazini? Yo.
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- Thank you.
Thank you, my brother.
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AMJAD: When somebody
would see these videos,
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they would instantly feel
a connection to him.
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ANCHOR:
Jay Mazini,
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who is blessing people
in the streets of New York
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and New Jersey.
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He is so nice.
- He is awesome.
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He is so awesome.
ANCHOR: Yes.
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ABDUL: And they would say,
"Jay Mazini's a great man.
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Why would you call him fake?"
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[dramatic music]
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Because he brought
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more anguish
and misery to my life
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than I could ever
have thought to imagine.
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You know, I didn't think
he was gonna do what he did.
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[engine revs]
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♪ ♪
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I'm not a bad guy,
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but he's ruined my life.
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[dark intense music]
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♪ ♪
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KARIM: All right. [sighs]
We are good to go.
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CAMERAMAN: All right.
KARIM: You just do it like that
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and boom.
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So just, uh,
give me a quick t--test audio
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and then we'll start.
CAMERAMAN: Yep.
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Got a test?
- Testing, one, two. Testing.
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CAMERAMAN: Perfect. Sounds good.
- Sounds good?
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All right. Let's begin.
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♪ ♪
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Hi, would you be interested
in a really quick interview?
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Hi, would you guys
be interested
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in a really quick interview?
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Hi, would you be interested
in a really quick interview
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for a show?
PERSON: All right.
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KARIM: All right.
Awesome. Ready?
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My name is Karim Jovian.
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I do a lot of things--
social experiments
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and a lot of storytelling,
man-on-the-street interviews
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in New York City.
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I have my Bible
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that is disguised as a Qur'an.
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"If evidence of virginity
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"is not found in a young woman,
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"then they shall bring out
the young woman
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"to the door
of her father's house
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and have the men of the city
stone her to death."
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- That's so [bleep] up.
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- I think that's bull[bleep].
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YouTube, I have
2.2 million subscribers,
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Facebook, I have 2.1 million,
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Instagram,
136, I think it is now,
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and then TikTok, 150,000,
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and I'm just starting
to build up my Snapchat,
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so that's pretty small.
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[chuckles]
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Hi. This is Karim.
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For me growing up...
[sighs]
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I honestly had a lot of people
that I looked up to
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but none of them were Muslim.
[chuckles]
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I think it's just the faith
and the culture, you know?
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It's stigmatized to be
in the entertainment industry.
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So I'm using social media
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to try to give people,
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you know, a better light--
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a better view of Muslims.
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I would like to pay for you.
- Hmm?
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- Order whatever you want.
I'll pay for you.
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- Yeah.
- What's he say?
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- Yes.
- You're so nice.
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- Thank you. I appreciate it.
Have a good one.
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A lot of the Muslim channels
that I follow,
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they were saying like,
"Oh, look at you guys.
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You're--are you
another Jay Mazini?"
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[notification chimes]
Like, in the comments,
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like, you know,
telling me like,
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"Hey, have you seen this guy?"
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"Have you been watching Jay?"
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"Have you seen
what he's doing?"
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Like,
"Yo, this guy's blowin' up."
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Some of the stuff he's doing
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was kind of similar
to what we were doing.
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But we would do it
on a smaller scale,
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like, giving out
a couple of dollars.
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He was giving out
thousands of dollars.
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That's when
I really started noticing.
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- Guys.
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I need everybody's attention.
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KARIM: I remember
the first video I saw
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of him standing up
on the table.
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Was it a Walmart?
Or whatever it is,
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it was some store.
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And he was just throwing out
stacks of money.
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- Everybody that gotta pay
their groceries,
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I want you guys to come up.
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[indistinct chatter]
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PERSON 1: Thank you.
PERSON 2: Thank you.
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KARIM: He was helping people
in need and giving money out.
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And, you know,
that's something
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that we're supposed to do
in our faith in Islam.
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[dramatic music]
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JAY:
This is, uh, 10,000.
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- Oh, my God.
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[baby coughs]
JAY: This is 10,000.
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I'm serious.
MOTHER: No, you not.
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JAY:
I swear to God.
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- No, you not.
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No. [weeps]
JAY: I swear.
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Sometimes you gotta realize
there's more to life
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than materialistic things--
cars, fashion, jewelry.
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KARIM:
He seemed very religious.
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I seen some videos of his
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with him walking
around in Mecca.
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That was something like,
"Wow, like, this guy
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"is making all this money,
he's helping all these people,
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and look at him."
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It was cool.
I mean, I'm gonna be honest.
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It was really cool to see that.
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You know, someone
who you could tell is a Muslim
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because he has
the full beard...
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and he's helping people out.
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We need more of that,
you know?
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AMJAD: So I knew Jay
since I was a kid.
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[light clicks on]
[notification chimes]
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Islamic school
was an interesting experience.
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We were literally going
to the mosque for school.
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It was very small.
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In tenth grade,
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Jay Mazini
was one of the new students.
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From what I recall,
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Jay wasn't really
a popular student,
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didn't really have
a lot of friends.
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And, not to brag, you know,
I was the popular guy.
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I was the better-looking one.
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The girls all liked me.
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But as soon as he started
to make money,
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everybody loved him.
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- I've seen his content online.
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He's using YouTube,
talkin' about, like,
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how he started, and--
and how he came up.
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JAY: What's up,
my YouTube subscribers,
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my supporters, and everybody
watchin' this video?
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I've been receiving
a lot of messages
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regarding my personal life
and how everything went along.
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[pensive piano music]
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It started along
when I was about 14.
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I would finish school.
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I would take the train
to New York.
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♪ ♪
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This is Fordham and Webster Ave.
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in the Bronx, New York.
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This is the same stand
I was hustlin' on
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when I was 14 years old
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all the way to 17 years old.
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I had my colognes, perfumes,
electronics--
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anything I could get
my hands on and hustle.
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I stayed there from,
you could say, 4:30 p.m.
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to, like, 11:00, midnight.
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KARIM: So, in this video,
he mentions Wall Street.
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And he wanted to go there
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because that's
where all the money is made.
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JAY: I used to take
the train to Wall Street
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and cry to myself like,
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"How can I be that person?
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How can I have
the same thing they have?"
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KARIM:
He talks about investing.
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He got into penny stocks.
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- I had about $70,000,
$80,000 saved up.
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So I'm like, "Okay,
I'm gonna take this money.
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I'm gonna invest it
into penny stock companies."
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So if I lost it,
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I would have lost all my money.
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I took about $70,000 profit.
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AMJAD: All of a sudden,
he was the rich guy
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and everybody wanted
to be his friend.
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He started making
a clothing brand.
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KARIM: He was posting a lot
about his brand, Mazini Italy.
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It was all on his Instagram.
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JAY: In the year 2016,
we started the brand fully,
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where we had it in stores.
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We had it
in different stores in Harlem.
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We had it in the Bronx.
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It was clippin'.
It was doin' really good.
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Don't miss out.
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Everything is sellin' out.
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All sizes are available.
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- I had just started learning
how to screen print
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and make apparel.
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And Jay comes and dumps
200 hoodies in front of me,
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and he says, "Hey, I need
this done in three days."
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I started workin' with him,
and he was always promisin',
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"We're gonna get this job done
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and we're gonna make
more money in the long run."
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JAY:
In that year,
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we did about
1/2 million in wholesale.
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It went great from there.
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Like, the company
was skyrocketing.
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AMJAD: At one point,
he had his store
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next to Gucci and Louis Vuitton.
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And he was really trying
to portray his brand
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as a designer product.
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JAY: Before that time
of putting the brand together,
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there was nights I was sleepin'
in the back of my car.
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I didn't have money to eat
at--at times.
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It was hard.
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But the company's worth about
$8 million right now.
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AMJAD: He blew up a lot
on social media.
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He loved to flaunt
that he had a lot of money.
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And he got collaborations
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with a lot
of big-name rappers,
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specifically, like, Dave East.
[chuckles]
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He was one rapper
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who actually helped
catapult him up.
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- The hats are available now.
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I mean, you can go
to the website.
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It got the Mazini page
up on the 'gram.
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AMJAD:
Fabolous is another one
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who helped catapult him up.
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Nas, 50 Cent...
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ANCHOR: 50 Cent is throwin'
out the dollar bills
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to a group of deserving
fast food workers.
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The entertainer teamed up
with Jay Mazini
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for the epic surprise.
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[excited chatter and screams]
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KARIM:
To see him with 50 Cent,
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is what really
legitimized it for me.
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I'm like,
"Yo, this guy is official."
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- [squeals]
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AMJAD: That video sparked
so much attention
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and got on the news.
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And it literally got him
verified.
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So when that happened,
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he started to do it
over and over again.
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Starts going to McDonald's.
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He starts going to another
Checkers restaurant.
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He does it another ten times,
which is--
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caused him to gain hundreds
of thousands of followers.
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KARIM:
He was giving out
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hundreds of thousands
of dollars in one night.
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And it was being shared
across all platforms.
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People eat that up.
That's viral content.
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And I thought,
"This guy's gonna be huge.
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"He's gonna be
one of the biggest
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"Muslim entertainers
or creators," you know?
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"This guy is gonna
be something else."
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50 CENT: [indistinct]
- [laughs]
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- It's gonna be all right.
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[indistinct chatter]
PERSON: Come here, come here.
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[soft tense music]
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♪ ♪
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- I hate to say it, but I knew
Jay Mazini was scamming
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from the moment
I laid eyes on him.
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[indistinct chatter on laptop]
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And so I--I felt like
I had to take him down.
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♪ ♪
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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STEPHEN:
My name is Stephen Findeisen.
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I run a YouTube channel
called Coffeezilla
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where I investigate
and bust scams.
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I uncovered a fraud
worth $4 billion.
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This is the story of SafeMoon,
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a crypto coin that millions...
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I kind of settled
on investigating scams
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'cause when I was a kid,
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my mom had been scammed a lot,
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my friends
had been scammed a lot.
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I realize this is
a very unheard segment
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of the population
who have been exploited.
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And there's just not a lot
or people covering it.
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I just want to make
the world a better place
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by, hopefully, shining
some light on these scams.
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- Sure.
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I remember
somebody came to me and said,
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"You gotta go check out
this guy.
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"He's got
nearly a million followers.
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And he's giving away money
all the time."
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ANCHOR:
A drive-through customer
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gave Nigel and his employees
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10 grand apiece.
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- I was just sayin'
to myself the whole time,
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"Like, hold on,
I hope this is not a prank."
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I just wanted to say
thank you, man, and--
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from me and my crew members.
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Just want to say thank you.
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STEPHEN: So take this all
with a grain of salt
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because this is
all self-reported
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by Jay Mazini,
real name Jebara Igbara.
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But according to him,
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he had hustled
a cologne and hat shop.
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He had turned that
into penny stock investing,
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which he turned
into a fashion brand
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of himself.
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- The company's worth
about $8 million right now.
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- I think there's
an enormous pressure
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that comes with success,
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because you have
to keep it going.
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Momentum doesn't
just keep happening.
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You have to make it happen.
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And so for Jay,
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he started doing
these giveaways.
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JAY:
For the first 500 orders,
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we'll be placing $1,000
in each order.
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Minimum three products.
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STEPHEN:
He would give away cash prizes
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as part of the package.
329
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So you would order
from Mazini Italy,
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but you have to have a minimum
of, like, five orders.
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This was a way
for him to drive
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more and more sales
to his business.
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- This is gonna be
a mystery box.
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Minimum order
of three Mazini products
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in order to win what?
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In order to win maybe $10,000,
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maybe $20,000, maybe $30,000.
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- Eventually, as he started
trying to drive
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more and more sales,
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he would offer
bigger and bigger sums.
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- The next 500 orders,
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I'll be placing in
$5,000 in each box.
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For the next 1,000 orders,
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I'll be placing in
$12,000 in each order.
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Minimum order,
six Mazini Italy products.
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For the next 800 people
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to place an order
on the Mazini Italy site,
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there'll be $40,000
in each order.
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Minimum order
is ten Mazini Italy items.
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STEPHEN:
How could he be giving
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that amount of money away
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just for selling clothes?
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♪ ♪
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ABDUL: First time
I heard about Jay Mazini,
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you know, it was a video
of him giving out money.
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I started scrolling
through his profile
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and I started seeing,
like, images of him,
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like, showing himself
as a devout Muslim
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who came up
from rags to riches.
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That was the story
that he painted.
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And it was something that,
of course, inspires you.
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SINGER: ♪ As a man,
all you have is your God ♪
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♪ Your morals,
character, dignity ♪
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ABDUL: Well, I haven't been
the best saver in my life.
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And, of course,
when you're having a family
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and you finally have
like, a good job,
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you start having to think
368
00:14:55,603 --> 00:14:57,146
about, you know,
the long-term future.
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And that was always
behind my mind.
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So I'm like,
"Okay, I want to really get
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into investing and trading."
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And I saw his post
that he created this academy
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that teaches students
how to trade stocks.
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JAY: ♪ Some people
lose their sense ♪
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♪ Trying to chase cents ♪
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♪ Some people livin' wise ♪
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♪ Because they were afraid
to reach the skies ♪
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STEPHEN: Mazini Academy
was started in 2019.
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And for about $2,000,
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you could get
stock tips from Jay,
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learn how to trade stocks,
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learn how to invest wisely.
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- Mazini Academy,
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educating people
in stocks, Forex.
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ABDUL: He used
the stock market to get rich.
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And he wants, you know,
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you to follow
in those footsteps.
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And he said, of course,
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"The first 100 people
who register will get..."
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- $20,000 each too,
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which accumulates
to $2 million.
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This is not a raffle.
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It's more of a educational--
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you're benefiting anyways.
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- So I'm like,
"This is it for me.
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"Let's--let's get in.
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Let's get into the trading
and investing."
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The academy is set up
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through a medium
called Discord.
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00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:05,173
And the way it was set up
was very, very professional.
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The classes were legitimate.
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00:16:06,591 --> 00:16:07,925
[notification chimes]
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00:16:09,051 --> 00:16:10,803
You can see the amount
of people online
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in the Discord channel.
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00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:13,514
When Jay Mazini came on,
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you saw the green lights
start lighting up
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00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:16,434
and more members
started coming on like,
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00:16:16,434 --> 00:16:18,186
"Oh, my God, Jay Mazini's on.
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00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:19,478
Let's go see him."
And he was, like, truly--
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00:16:19,478 --> 00:16:20,855
you could see
that celebrity in him.
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00:16:20,855 --> 00:16:24,275
Like, "Relax, people, he's--
he's just a person."
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One day he comes on and says,
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00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:31,073
"Guys, I have a little bit
of a treat or a gift to you.
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"What if I were to tell you
that there was a stock
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"that you would trade
and you'd make
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00:16:33,618 --> 00:16:34,952
"a lot of money off today?
417
00:16:34,952 --> 00:16:36,495
Do you wanna know what it is?"
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00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:38,289
- People say, "Yes," "yes,"
"yes," "oh, my God."
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00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:39,916
Girls heart-eye'd Jay Mazini.
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00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:42,001
And we're waiting for him,
and he took a pause
421
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:45,922
and he said, "PSV."
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00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:49,175
It was basically
a tanker company
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that, like, holds oil.
[chuckles]
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00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:52,303
And he's like,
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00:16:52,303 --> 00:16:53,679
"If you guys get in right now,
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00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:56,557
you'd get to be making
a lot of money."
427
00:16:56,557 --> 00:16:58,059
So I take $4,000.
428
00:16:58,059 --> 00:16:59,769
It was money that, you know,
me and my wife talked about,
429
00:16:59,769 --> 00:17:01,354
we saved over a period of time.
430
00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:06,150
And I put 99% of that money
into this stock.
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00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:09,445
And I think
for the first half an hour,
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00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:11,239
the stocks didn't go up.
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00:17:11,239 --> 00:17:13,157
[tense music]
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00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:15,910
Started going from $1.12,
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00:17:15,910 --> 00:17:19,497
$1.15, $1.23...
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00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,124
People were asking like,
"When should we sell?
437
00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,751
When should we sell?"
We're taking his direction.
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People believed in him.
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00:17:25,294 --> 00:17:28,798
♪ ♪
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00:17:28,798 --> 00:17:30,007
And I remember after lunch
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00:17:30,007 --> 00:17:31,384
when the stocks
started going down,
442
00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:32,552
he says, "Oh, just--
just the sharks
443
00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:33,719
are comin' out later.
The sharks."
444
00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:34,720
Whatever the hell that means,
445
00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,888
"The sharks are comin' out."
446
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:37,306
I didn't even know
what that means.
447
00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:38,975
But--but, basically,
he was doin' his best
448
00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:40,101
to assure us that, you know,
449
00:17:40,101 --> 00:17:41,560
we'll get out of this okay.
450
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,937
[notification chimes]
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00:17:45,982 --> 00:17:48,859
And it went under a dollar
at the end of that day.
452
00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:50,444
And it just kept going
lower and lower.
453
00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:51,988
And I think people,
at that point,
454
00:17:51,988 --> 00:17:53,698
were really concerned
about Jay Mazini.
455
00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:56,284
They were really thinkin'
at that point like,
456
00:17:56,284 --> 00:17:58,703
"He left us out to dry."
457
00:17:58,703 --> 00:17:59,996
He did mention to us,
458
00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:01,497
"You're doing this
at your own risk."
459
00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:03,124
He said that to us.
460
00:18:03,124 --> 00:18:04,333
But...
[sighs]
461
00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:07,044
I had a lot of faith
in that man.
462
00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:08,462
I should have pulled out
at that point and said,
463
00:18:08,462 --> 00:18:09,797
"Cut your losses, man.
464
00:18:09,797 --> 00:18:11,757
You don't know shit about this--
about this stock."
465
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:14,135
"Get out."
I didn't get out.
466
00:18:17,221 --> 00:18:19,557
STEPHEN:
Influence is powerful stuff.
467
00:18:19,557 --> 00:18:22,518
You can inspire people
to improve themselves.
468
00:18:22,518 --> 00:18:25,688
You can also inspire people
to give you money
469
00:18:25,688 --> 00:18:29,400
based on the idea
you're gonna get them rich.
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00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,943
KARIM: You could kind of tell
by his videos
471
00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:34,071
that he was always going on
to the next big thing.
472
00:18:34,071 --> 00:18:36,449
That's how he kind of pulled
more people in.
473
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:39,118
And that big thing
was Halal Capital.
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00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:41,495
♪ ♪
475
00:18:41,495 --> 00:18:43,247
"Halal" is something
that's permissible,
476
00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:46,125
that's not against our faith.
477
00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,293
In Islam, we have
478
00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:48,711
a very strict way
of investing.
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00:18:48,711 --> 00:18:50,463
You can't just invest
in anything.
480
00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:52,298
So they would trust someone
who is Muslim
481
00:18:52,298 --> 00:18:53,507
like Jay Mazini.
482
00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:55,217
And they would put money
into his foundations
483
00:18:55,217 --> 00:18:57,470
or his funds or whatever
investments he's doing,
484
00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:58,971
because he was saying
that he's doing
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00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,389
the halal investments.
486
00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:02,683
- I'm showin' the world
what Islam really is,
487
00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:03,851
how we're raised to be.
488
00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:08,147
WALLY:
I think that key word "halal"
489
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,982
just offered
a lot of, like, comfort
490
00:19:09,982 --> 00:19:11,692
when you wanna invest.
491
00:19:11,692 --> 00:19:13,194
In our belief, we have to stay
492
00:19:13,194 --> 00:19:16,322
away from things that offer
gambling or alcohol.
493
00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:18,324
Different things like that,
you know?
494
00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:20,409
When Halal Capital was formed,
495
00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,787
it was supposed to be
an investing company
496
00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:25,289
started by Jay Mazini.
497
00:19:25,289 --> 00:19:26,916
The first time
I heard about it
498
00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:27,958
was through my cousin.
499
00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:29,418
He explained it to me
500
00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:32,588
that Halal Capital
was buying merchandise, okay?
501
00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:34,507
And they would--
they would buy it in bulk
502
00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:35,674
and resell it,
503
00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,593
that he was getting paid
on monthly flips.
504
00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:40,262
So if you invest this much,
505
00:19:40,262 --> 00:19:41,722
you would get this return.
506
00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:43,182
If you invest
a little bit more,
507
00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:44,642
it's a higher return.
508
00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:46,560
And he would just,
you know, show me
509
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,937
that they were getting returns
and saying,
510
00:19:47,937 --> 00:19:49,313
"Hey, so far, so good."
511
00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:53,526
This was, like, March of 2020.
512
00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:56,779
Times were pretty tough
as far as business-wise.
513
00:19:56,779 --> 00:19:59,407
And they
were offering products
514
00:19:59,407 --> 00:20:00,658
that people were short of.
515
00:20:02,785 --> 00:20:05,579
They know that masks
are in short supply.
516
00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:08,416
They knew hand sanitizer
was in short supply.
517
00:20:08,416 --> 00:20:10,501
They have these items
518
00:20:10,501 --> 00:20:12,795
and the hospitals needed them.
519
00:20:12,795 --> 00:20:15,464
The stores needed them.
520
00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:18,217
So we got a text message
letting us know
521
00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:20,219
that there's
a monthly flip coming
522
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,680
which involved hand sanitizer.
523
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,350
So I thought
maybe it's a good idea
524
00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:29,854
to take whatever
we have saved, um--
525
00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:32,982
it would--
it's a substantial amount.
526
00:20:32,982 --> 00:20:36,444
I'm gonna say it's a few
hundred thousand dollars.
527
00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:38,446
We thought that this is--
528
00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:40,364
you know, this is a homerun.
529
00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:42,992
♪ ♪
530
00:20:42,992 --> 00:20:44,952
[seagulls calling]
531
00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:47,413
Yeah, the time
for payment would come.
532
00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:50,040
We would message him
and he would say,
533
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,417
"Okay, you know,
534
00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:53,794
"Ramadan celebration's
gonna hit this time.
535
00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:55,379
"I'm sorry, but, you know,
536
00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:56,505
there's gonna be
a little delay."
537
00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,841
We understood.
We let that go.
538
00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,301
So a week passes by
539
00:21:00,301 --> 00:21:03,137
after our promised, uh,
deadline of getting paid,
540
00:21:03,137 --> 00:21:06,390
and no--
we don't hear anything.
541
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:08,225
I start, like,
asking questions.
542
00:21:08,225 --> 00:21:10,853
I asked my cousin to see
if they got anything.
543
00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:12,354
And I contact the--the mosque
544
00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:14,815
because they also got in
as well.
545
00:21:14,815 --> 00:21:17,735
It was the whole community.
It wasn't just our family.
546
00:21:17,735 --> 00:21:20,112
At that time,
looking at his profile
547
00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:22,031
and kind of trying
to get an idea
548
00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:24,033
of who
we're dealing with here,
549
00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:25,576
it didn't make us
feel too good
550
00:21:25,576 --> 00:21:29,163
because we knew that he had
a different persona.
551
00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:34,168
I did try
to confront Jay myself, okay?
552
00:21:34,168 --> 00:21:35,586
I was like, "Hey, listen,
553
00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:37,796
we invested a substantial
amount of money."
554
00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:40,007
He gave me a story
saying that--
555
00:21:40,007 --> 00:21:43,052
that he had 18 duffel bags'
worth of--
556
00:21:43,052 --> 00:21:47,389
full of money,
and he got stuck up.
557
00:21:47,389 --> 00:21:50,643
In what world
do you walk around
558
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:54,939
carrying 18 duffle bags'
worth of cash?
559
00:21:54,939 --> 00:21:58,776
You know, we--
we didn't believe it for a bit.
560
00:21:58,776 --> 00:22:00,194
However, at that time,
561
00:22:00,194 --> 00:22:01,820
we didn't want
to go full force
562
00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:03,531
and ruin his reputation.
563
00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:05,950
Because we didn't want to risk
him losing more money
564
00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:08,285
so we couldn't get paid.
565
00:22:08,285 --> 00:22:09,703
So we kind of held our tongues.
566
00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:11,455
And we held our stance, saying,
567
00:22:11,455 --> 00:22:13,749
"Okay, let him do
what he needs to do
568
00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:15,584
to sell his merchandise."
569
00:22:15,584 --> 00:22:18,754
He still had
that whole Mazini Academy.
570
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:21,382
STEPHEN: There's a real
skill set to being a scammer.
571
00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:23,926
In a large way, the way he's
getting away with it is because
572
00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:28,722
nobody with a big platform
is calling out what he's doing.
573
00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:30,474
ABDUL:
I started to believe that
574
00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:33,477
he really scammed us.
575
00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:34,728
That stock was filing
576
00:22:34,728 --> 00:22:36,647
for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
577
00:22:36,647 --> 00:22:38,482
That's a key, important
information, Jay.
578
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,109
Like, you should have
told us, right?
579
00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:41,569
You should have
at least told us,
580
00:22:41,569 --> 00:22:44,572
"This company is going through
Chapter 11 proceedings.
581
00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,240
They're gonna go bankrupt."
582
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,200
And that wasn't told to us.
583
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,119
He used the academy to,
what's called in the,
584
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,495
you know,
the financial industry,
585
00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:52,830
a pump and dump.
586
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,540
And a pump and dump
is when someone has
587
00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,876
a position in a stock,
meaning that they owned
588
00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:58,419
a number of shares
in that stock.
589
00:22:58,419 --> 00:23:01,380
And he basically convinced
the masses and his students
590
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,340
to invest in that stock,
591
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:06,176
which caused an up-tick
for that stock to go higher.
592
00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:07,595
And once it hit
that desired point,
593
00:23:07,595 --> 00:23:10,055
he can get
out of his position.
594
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:12,057
That's what I believe
he did, right?
595
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,475
Because he understood
that we were new
596
00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:15,269
and he could take advantage
of that emotion
597
00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:16,854
and of his image.
598
00:23:19,023 --> 00:23:21,775
WALLY: Jay Mazini,
he was an online sensation.
599
00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:23,527
He was out there
giving out money,
600
00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:24,945
giving out prizes.
601
00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:26,196
But that money
602
00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:27,323
that he was giving out
at that time,
603
00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:28,782
we had a feeling.
604
00:23:28,782 --> 00:23:31,368
We had a feeling that
he was giving out our money.
605
00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:34,163
- I'll be giving away
$10,000 ea--
606
00:23:34,163 --> 00:23:35,873
this is just an example.
607
00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:37,958
AMJAD:
He was on Instagram Live,
608
00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:39,627
paying people's rent...
609
00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:40,794
PERSON:
Thank you so much.
610
00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:41,837
I respect that.
611
00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:43,839
I knew--I knew I won.
612
00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:45,424
- Yeah, you won. God bless.
613
00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:47,676
AMJAD:
But he owed me, like, $1,000.
614
00:23:47,676 --> 00:23:49,762
I was still doing business
with him at the time.
615
00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:53,140
And it's like,
I'm supposed to be his friend.
616
00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:55,684
So I was constantly
telling people
617
00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:57,144
to watch out for Jay.
618
00:23:57,144 --> 00:24:00,272
"Do not give him your money.
Do not trust him.
619
00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:03,108
He's going to screw you over."
620
00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:06,320
And no one ever believed me.
621
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,948
Everybody just kept
dismissing me as a lunatic,
622
00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:11,909
and it drove me insane.
623
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:14,954
It was--it--
it drove me into depression.
624
00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:17,956
I--you know, I--I tried
to recover on my own,
625
00:24:17,956 --> 00:24:20,542
but when you don't have
that many friends
626
00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:22,962
because they all sided
with Jay,
627
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:24,922
there's not much to do.
628
00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:30,135
But the Jay Mazini scam page
helped bring that message out.
629
00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:33,138
[dramatic music]
630
00:24:34,431 --> 00:24:36,517
STEPHEN: A bunch of pages
popped up on Instagram
631
00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:38,143
basically saying
all the things
632
00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:39,895
that he was saying was a lie.
633
00:24:39,895 --> 00:24:41,522
They'd talk about
victim testimonials.
634
00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:45,150
♪ ♪
635
00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:48,070
A lot of people started
coming out with Jay,
636
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:49,780
especially from the giveaways.
637
00:24:58,372 --> 00:25:01,625
STEPHEN:
Of course, the reality was...
638
00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:04,837
people weren't actually
getting the money.
639
00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:06,213
PERSON:
There's no money.
640
00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:18,559
AMJAD: So I started talking
to the scam page.
641
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,060
I was like,
"I have some stuff that--
642
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:21,937
some content you could add
to your page, you know?"
643
00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:25,107
Yo, Jay, stop lying to people.
644
00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:26,775
Stop acting shady online.
645
00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:28,360
Stop putting up this front,
646
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,113
because you are not
who you say you are.
647
00:25:31,113 --> 00:25:32,656
I laid it out straight.
648
00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:35,868
I said, "You know,
stop tryna present yourself
649
00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:38,328
"like you're
this prophetic figure
650
00:25:38,328 --> 00:25:40,789
"or somebody who deserves to be
651
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:42,916
"a--a power of influence
at all,
652
00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:44,418
"because you're a fake.
653
00:25:44,418 --> 00:25:46,086
"And, eventually,
654
00:25:46,086 --> 00:25:48,088
it's all gonna come
crashing down on you."
655
00:25:53,927 --> 00:25:55,971
WALLY:
Back in the homeland,
656
00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:58,807
if there was a dispute
with another family,
657
00:25:58,807 --> 00:26:01,643
you would get your clan
or tribe
658
00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:05,522
to go talk
to members of their family.
659
00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:07,232
And with Jay,
660
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,609
some people did go over
661
00:26:08,609 --> 00:26:10,944
to speak to his family.
662
00:26:10,944 --> 00:26:12,070
And it wasn't very successful.
663
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:16,241
Like, um, his dad
just told them
664
00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,702
that, you know,
"He kind of does his own thing.
665
00:26:18,702 --> 00:26:20,579
He doesn't live here anymore."
666
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:23,082
It just--it gave us,
like, more worries
667
00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:25,918
than--than anything positive.
668
00:26:30,881 --> 00:26:33,592
JEREMY: Everybody wants
their pound of flesh.
669
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:34,927
When you feel
you've been victimized,
670
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,346
you--you want
to be made whole again.
671
00:26:37,346 --> 00:26:39,306
And the way you do that
is by filing
672
00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:41,642
usually a lawsuit
against that person.
673
00:26:41,642 --> 00:26:44,019
And in this case,
Jay's family was getting
674
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:46,480
roped into this mess
through a civil suit.
675
00:26:47,815 --> 00:26:49,942
My name is Jeremy Feigenbaum.
676
00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:51,151
The firm has dealt
with a number
677
00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,445
of high-profile individuals,
678
00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:56,281
probably the most famous
of which would be Anna Delvey.
679
00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:57,491
ANCHOR 1:
Delvey, whose real name
680
00:26:57,491 --> 00:26:59,910
is Anna Sorokin
is a scam artist.
681
00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:02,079
ANCHOR 2: Overnight,
a New York City jury
682
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:03,914
finding socialite
Anna Sorokin,
683
00:27:03,914 --> 00:27:05,791
the so-called "Soho Grifter,"
684
00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:07,501
guilty on eight counts
685
00:27:07,501 --> 00:27:10,295
including grand larceny,
attempted grand larceny,
686
00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:12,756
and theft of services.
687
00:27:12,756 --> 00:27:16,426
JEREMY: Charisma is a huge,
huge factor in all of this.
688
00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:19,471
The reason she was able
to be Anna Delvey
689
00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,766
is because she had such
immense levels of charisma,
690
00:27:22,766 --> 00:27:25,894
where you just couldn't help
but wanna talk with her
691
00:27:25,894 --> 00:27:28,689
and become her friend.
692
00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:30,732
Anna and Jay,
many similarities
693
00:27:30,732 --> 00:27:33,527
to how they operate,
in my opinion.
694
00:27:33,527 --> 00:27:35,320
I first heard about Jay
695
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,990
when Jay and his family
came to us
696
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:39,616
with respect to claims
697
00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,159
that were being made
against him.
698
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:43,620
From allegations about
people not getting
699
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:45,622
the types of packages
that he promised,
700
00:27:45,622 --> 00:27:47,875
or gifts that he said
he would send...
701
00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:49,293
PERSON: [scoffs]
Ain't nothin'.
702
00:27:49,293 --> 00:27:51,295
Knew nothin'
wasn't gonna be in here.
703
00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:53,171
JEREMY:
To people investing their cash
704
00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:56,717
and the money wasn't returned
when requested.
705
00:27:56,717 --> 00:27:59,428
Some of the individuals
involved with that
706
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:01,763
were very angry
at what they believed
707
00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:03,724
Jay had done
with some their cash.
708
00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:05,392
WALLY:
I--I just don't know
709
00:28:05,392 --> 00:28:07,436
what he thought
was gonna happen.
710
00:28:07,436 --> 00:28:09,396
Like, there was
no consequences
711
00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:11,231
goin' through his mind saying,
712
00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:13,150
"Okay, I'm just gonna
rob these people
713
00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:15,444
and now I'll just
sail into the sunset"?
714
00:28:15,444 --> 00:28:17,279
I mean, of course,
we want our money back.
715
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:18,739
But I personally,
716
00:28:18,739 --> 00:28:20,824
I just wanna see
justice being served, right?
717
00:28:20,824 --> 00:28:22,534
JEREMY: Jay's family
came to us, obviously,
718
00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:25,078
fairly distressed and upset
about what was going on.
719
00:28:25,078 --> 00:28:27,247
The plaintiffs
alleged direct fraud
720
00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:28,498
against Jay himself.
721
00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:29,750
And then against the family,
722
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:31,418
they alleged aiding
and abetting.
723
00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:32,878
And they were, obviously,
very much wanting
724
00:28:32,878 --> 00:28:34,880
to protect Jay
and themselves rightfully.
725
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,632
And I think
they wanted to figure out
726
00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:39,426
what exactly was going on.
727
00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:42,137
ABDUL: The academy
was becoming very toxic.
728
00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:44,097
We all lost a lot of money
and we need an explanation.
729
00:28:44,097 --> 00:28:46,224
We need to talk--
talk this through.
730
00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:49,102
And, um, Jay Mazini
never showed up,
731
00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:52,856
never explained to us
what happened.
732
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:54,399
And that's when I started
devising a plan
733
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:57,277
on how we could bring
this person to justice.
734
00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:59,613
Started looking into what
we could do with the SCC.
735
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:03,367
I went on the SCC website
and I filled out a complaint.
736
00:29:05,327 --> 00:29:07,746
Nobody took action,
and at this point, like,
737
00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:08,997
the more he's able
to continue this,
738
00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:10,540
the more people were scammed.
739
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:13,669
- I'll be placin' in
$40,000 in each order.
740
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:16,171
ABDUL:
100 people, $40,000?
741
00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:19,466
Your clothes are gonna cost,
like, what, 150 bucks, $100?
742
00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:23,553
You're givin' out $40,000--
how does that make sense?
743
00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,347
He was getting desperate.
744
00:29:25,347 --> 00:29:27,391
I think he just kept digging
himself a bigger hole.
745
00:29:27,391 --> 00:29:28,934
And that's why
those scams became--
746
00:29:28,934 --> 00:29:32,145
they were more, like,
important to him.
747
00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:33,438
STEPHEN:
I think with Jay,
748
00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:35,482
you did see an escalation.
749
00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:36,692
I was on the phone a lot
750
00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:38,485
talking to the various victims
of Jay.
751
00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:39,695
When I first started,
752
00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:41,905
it was all about
the giveaway scams.
753
00:29:41,905 --> 00:29:43,949
And then he would try
to start up some new schemes.
754
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:45,909
- Regarding the Mazini Academy,
755
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:47,911
I've already selected
ten people
756
00:29:47,911 --> 00:29:50,038
which I'll be giving
$5,000 each to
757
00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:51,832
which accumulates...
STEPHEN: But he was pivoting
758
00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:53,834
almost as fast
as I could report on it.
759
00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:55,877
- Now, I'll be starting up
a new campaign.
760
00:29:57,587 --> 00:30:00,257
STEPHEN: He started talking
a lot about crypto currencies.
761
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:04,302
Specifically, he wanted
to buy it from the fans.
762
00:30:04,302 --> 00:30:06,179
He told people
that he was going to buy
763
00:30:06,179 --> 00:30:10,517
Bitcoin from them
for 5%-10% over market value.
764
00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:12,060
And the reason
he was gonna do this
765
00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,813
is because he wanted to buy
so much of it
766
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:16,732
that crypto exchanges
767
00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:19,735
literally wouldn't let him
buy so much.
768
00:30:19,735 --> 00:30:21,069
Once Jay got someone
769
00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:22,696
who was willing
to buy him some Bitcoin,
770
00:30:22,696 --> 00:30:25,949
he'd say, "Just send me
the Bitcoin first
771
00:30:25,949 --> 00:30:27,868
"and I will send you
the wire same day.
772
00:30:27,868 --> 00:30:29,870
It'll just take a little bit."
773
00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:31,163
So pretty quickly,
774
00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:33,665
these wires
didn't actually get through.
775
00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:36,710
And people realized
they had joined the list
776
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:38,879
of Jay's victims,
and they got in touch with me.
777
00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:41,798
- He said, "Oh, oh,
I sent your account 500,000.
778
00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:43,633
Uh, go check your account
I sent you the confirmation."
779
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:45,218
Two, three days later,
there's nothing.
780
00:30:45,218 --> 00:30:46,678
There's no money.
There's nothing.
781
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,138
The confirmation's
a made-up number.
782
00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:50,766
I'm hoping to God
he rots in jail.
783
00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:52,225
STEPHEN:
Jay was so shameless.
784
00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:54,186
He would show them
his passport, his ID.
785
00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:55,854
He would show them
it's not a scam.
786
00:30:57,439 --> 00:30:59,775
Who shows their passport
to somebody
787
00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:03,779
when they're about to allegedly
fake a wire transfer?
788
00:31:05,572 --> 00:31:07,115
That's where I realized,
789
00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:11,203
"Oh, well, this is almost
certainly another crime."
790
00:31:11,203 --> 00:31:13,580
You can't fake
a wire transfer.
791
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:19,169
AMJAD: Coffeezilla really did
great detective work
792
00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:20,754
on Jay Mazini
793
00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:25,092
and catapulted the attention
onto the scam page.
794
00:31:25,092 --> 00:31:27,594
It started blowing up
in views.
795
00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:30,806
And it was--
it got so much attention.
796
00:31:30,806 --> 00:31:33,058
Because of how popular
it was getting,
797
00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:35,894
when you would search
"Jay Mazini,"
798
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:38,688
right underneath it would say
"Jay Mazini scam."
799
00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:40,649
[laughs] And he hated it
800
00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:43,401
because he was so used
to everybody supporting him.
801
00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:46,196
And now all of a sudden,
everyone's against him.
802
00:31:46,196 --> 00:31:50,117
- Scammin' how? Scammin' how?
803
00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:53,662
I got a clothes line.
I got an academy.
804
00:31:53,662 --> 00:31:56,623
We sell clothes.
We teach stocks.
805
00:31:56,623 --> 00:32:01,128
AMJAD: So I was a
heavy supporter of this page.
806
00:32:01,128 --> 00:32:02,963
And, uh, it wasn't me,
807
00:32:02,963 --> 00:32:05,632
but I thought it would be funny
808
00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:08,885
to spread a rumor
that it was me.
809
00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:13,849
STEPHEN: MJ was one
of the people I spoke to.
810
00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:15,767
Jay Mazini and him
have a past.
811
00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:17,269
They went to school together.
812
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,688
And he would always kind of
make fun of Jay,
813
00:32:19,688 --> 00:32:21,356
tease Jay.
814
00:32:21,356 --> 00:32:24,151
And MJ started to tell
Jay Mazini
815
00:32:24,151 --> 00:32:27,654
that he actually ran
the scam page--
816
00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:30,115
the thing that was ruining
Jay Mazini's life.
817
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,285
♪ ♪
818
00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:35,704
Jay Mazini was under
a lot of pressure.
819
00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:38,290
He started to get
really paranoid.
820
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,709
Reportedly,
he was hiring bodyguards
821
00:32:40,709 --> 00:32:42,794
for $7,000 a week,
822
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,839
trying to ensure
a crumbling sense of security.
823
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,092
- Fake allegations.
Fake accusations.
824
00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:51,386
Try to tarnish me.
You can't tarnish greatness.
825
00:32:51,386 --> 00:32:52,762
You can't curse
what God blessed.
826
00:32:52,762 --> 00:32:54,389
STEPHEN:
You can see his ego
827
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:56,433
bumping up against
all the allegations
828
00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:58,351
that were starting to come out
around this time.
829
00:32:58,351 --> 00:33:00,145
Like,
"You can't tarnish greatness."
830
00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:02,397
That's who Jay thought
of himself as.
831
00:33:02,397 --> 00:33:04,608
Like, he really thought
he was great.
832
00:33:04,608 --> 00:33:07,611
And he thought
he was above the rules.
833
00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:09,529
ABDUL:
You disrespected us.
834
00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:11,281
You basically
threatened people that,
835
00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:13,241
"If you guys say
this is a scam,
836
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:14,618
you're kicked out.
You're gone."
837
00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:16,494
So he tried to silence people.
838
00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:18,205
And I'm like, "You're--
you're not gonna silence me.
839
00:33:18,205 --> 00:33:19,456
"You're not gonna silence
the people
840
00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:22,584
that lost this money.
Like, it's on now."
841
00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:23,877
AMJAD: It was getting
so much traction.
842
00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:25,503
People were starting
to follow the page.
843
00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:27,172
We're getting new people
every single day
844
00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:28,381
with new stories.
845
00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:29,883
Everybody would share
their story
846
00:33:29,883 --> 00:33:31,927
and how they lost money
with Jay.
847
00:33:31,927 --> 00:33:35,347
So the scam page
was destroying
848
00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:37,933
Jay's reputation,
his authenticity,
849
00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:39,851
his trust with his audience.
850
00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:43,688
He was literally spiraling
out of control.
851
00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:45,273
And, uh, I enjoyed
every minute of it.
852
00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:48,735
STEPHEN: So as things
started heating up,
853
00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:51,488
Jay disables
his own Instagram account.
854
00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:55,325
When you shut down your page,
855
00:33:55,325 --> 00:33:56,785
it's like closing your shop.
856
00:33:56,785 --> 00:33:58,662
Your entire
income stream stops
857
00:33:58,662 --> 00:34:01,081
in the case
of someone like Jay.
858
00:34:01,081 --> 00:34:04,084
That was the turning point
where I realized
859
00:34:04,084 --> 00:34:06,628
that things were starting
to get to him.
860
00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:08,505
Then things went
to a whole other level.
861
00:34:08,505 --> 00:34:10,757
♪ ♪
862
00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:16,638
[suspenseful music]
863
00:34:16,638 --> 00:34:18,515
AMJAD:
The Jay Mazini scam page
864
00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:20,725
was ruining his reputation
so much.
865
00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:22,852
And so many people
in the community
866
00:34:22,852 --> 00:34:24,229
started talking about it.
867
00:34:24,229 --> 00:34:28,984
And Jay believed that
I was running the page.
868
00:34:28,984 --> 00:34:30,610
It was a joke,
869
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:32,612
but people
really took it seriously.
870
00:34:33,863 --> 00:34:36,616
So it's 2:00 a.m.
in the morning.
871
00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:40,120
I get a friendly phone call
from Jay Mazini.
872
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,621
I was like...
[clicks tongue]
873
00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:45,250
Know what? All right.
I'll meet up with you.
874
00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:48,461
So I went to Edgewater,
875
00:34:48,461 --> 00:34:50,171
parked my car,
876
00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:51,631
and then I saw Jay.
877
00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:56,303
I was like--I haven't seen him
in, like, almost three years.
878
00:34:56,303 --> 00:34:57,512
I was like,
"Hey, what's up, man?
879
00:34:57,512 --> 00:35:00,056
You got fat there, buddy.
How's it goin'?"
880
00:35:00,056 --> 00:35:02,934
He goes, "Oh, it's good, man."
881
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:05,645
Jump into the car.
We start drivin'.
882
00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:08,440
And I turn to him,
I'm like, "Yo, listen.
883
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,899
"What's goin' on?
884
00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:12,402
"What's all this,
like, scams, money?
885
00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:14,863
"You pissed off
a lot of Muslims.
886
00:35:14,863 --> 00:35:16,823
So what happened? Tell me."
887
00:35:16,823 --> 00:35:18,325
He goes,
"Nah, man, it wasn't me.
888
00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:20,243
"I swear to God.
I'm just tryna like,
889
00:35:20,243 --> 00:35:21,620
"you know, raise a family.
890
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,163
"Like, I got
a son coming soon.
891
00:35:23,163 --> 00:35:25,665
Like, I'm just tryna get
my stuff together."
892
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,419
We finally get
to the 7-Eleven.
893
00:35:29,419 --> 00:35:31,254
You know, I--I wasn't
looking behind me,
894
00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:33,506
but the door opens.
895
00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:35,091
I look back and I'm just like,
896
00:35:35,091 --> 00:35:37,552
"Who the hell are these guys?"
897
00:35:37,552 --> 00:35:40,013
It's just two Black men
with hoodies on.
898
00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:41,640
And then
he starts driving off.
899
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,516
[engine revs]
900
00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:45,769
And he goes, "Don't worry.
We're not gonna hurt you."
901
00:35:45,769 --> 00:35:48,688
I was like, "Really? Really?
You--you're not gonna hurt me?
902
00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:50,023
Who are these guys?"
I was like--
903
00:35:50,023 --> 00:35:53,193
I was like,
"Yo, what's your name, buddy?
904
00:35:53,193 --> 00:35:55,111
We good? You don't want
to shake my hand."
905
00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:56,988
I was like, "Oh, you don't want
to shake my hand?
906
00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:58,073
"You don't want
to shake my hand?
907
00:35:58,073 --> 00:35:59,366
Oh, okay."
908
00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:02,827
At that point,
I have to strategize.
909
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:05,872
What am I gonna do?
These guys have me in the car.
910
00:36:05,872 --> 00:36:09,167
So as soon as we pulled up
to Chase Bank,
911
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:12,003
I pop the door open and I run.
912
00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:15,173
Start running like I'm running
the race of my life right now.
913
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,093
I made a quick left,
saw a alleyway.
914
00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:20,553
But it was a dead end.
"What do I do? What do I do?"
915
00:36:20,553 --> 00:36:22,430
I see a staircase.
I'm like, "Cool. Staircase."
916
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:23,973
I run up the staircase.
917
00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:26,434
♪ ♪
918
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,354
It's a frickin' balcony.
919
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,940
I--I made a jump.
[chuckles]
920
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,692
I jumped from the second floor.
921
00:36:36,361 --> 00:36:38,571
Unfortunately,
I sprained my ankle.
922
00:36:38,571 --> 00:36:41,449
[panting, grunts]
I couldn't run anymore.
923
00:36:41,449 --> 00:36:43,493
Got jumped by both guys
924
00:36:43,493 --> 00:36:46,663
right there
in the middle of the street.
925
00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:49,624
They forced me
to the back seat of the car.
926
00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:51,126
He says,
"Where's your phone, man?"
927
00:36:51,126 --> 00:36:52,710
I was like,
"You want my phone?"
928
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:56,840
They wanted my phone
because they believed
929
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,468
that I was running
the Jay Mazini scam page.
930
00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:03,555
I gave him my phone.
I let him take the password.
931
00:37:03,555 --> 00:37:05,140
Even through all that,
932
00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:06,558
they still couldn't
get the page
933
00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:09,811
because I was never in charge
of the page.
934
00:37:09,811 --> 00:37:12,647
He goes, "All right.
We'll see about that."
935
00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:15,650
He's driving me to Passaic.
936
00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:18,528
And he goes
and he picks up another man.
937
00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,239
This is pretty much the man
that they've hired
938
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,991
to beat the page out of me.
939
00:37:22,991 --> 00:37:26,828
[panting]
940
00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:29,581
They take me to a basement.
941
00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:32,125
And they strip me down
to everything.
942
00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,085
I was, like, completely naked.
943
00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,838
♪ ♪
944
00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:40,383
And this guy's got a machete
up to my neck.
945
00:37:40,383 --> 00:37:42,177
He starts punching me
in the head
946
00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:43,970
and, like, yelling at me.
947
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:46,014
Like, Arabic slurs.
948
00:37:46,014 --> 00:37:48,892
He's like, "We would kill you
from where we come from."
949
00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:50,977
♪ ♪
950
00:37:50,977 --> 00:37:53,730
He's like, "Where's the page?"
951
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,233
I'm like, "I'm telling you,
I don't have it."
952
00:37:57,233 --> 00:37:59,652
[groaning]
953
00:38:01,738 --> 00:38:03,656
And Jay's
just sitting there laughing
954
00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:05,450
like he thinks it's funny.
955
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:08,369
♪ ♪
956
00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:09,621
He goes,
"All right, you ready?
957
00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:11,498
I'm gonna punch you.
Are you ready?"
958
00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:12,916
I was like,
"Dude, just freakin' do it.
959
00:38:12,916 --> 00:38:14,042
"I've been punched enough.
Like, I don't--
960
00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:15,710
"I don't even feel pain
at this point.
961
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:17,045
Just freakin' do it already."
962
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:20,423
Gives me a punch.
963
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,721
And he thinks that, like,
it really hurt me.
964
00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:28,389
But when I took the punch,
965
00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:29,891
I kind of pretended
to cry a little bit
966
00:38:29,891 --> 00:38:34,020
and I actually made him
feel bad for me.
967
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:35,605
He was like,
"Ohh, you know what?
968
00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:37,232
"That's--that's enough, man.
We're done.
969
00:38:37,232 --> 00:38:38,816
Just--just let him go."
970
00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:43,530
♪ ♪
971
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:45,532
He dropped me in Edgewater
972
00:38:45,532 --> 00:38:48,159
and forced me
to limp back to my car.
973
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,538
♪ ♪
974
00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:54,749
What they did to me
is--is, like, despicable,
975
00:38:54,749 --> 00:38:56,918
and there's no other words
to explain
976
00:38:56,918 --> 00:38:58,461
what was going
through my head.
977
00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,422
And though--and I--I'm sorry,
but I'm not a gangsta
978
00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:03,633
who's gonna come
and fire back at you.
979
00:39:03,633 --> 00:39:06,052
I'm gonna--
gonna do the right thing
980
00:39:06,052 --> 00:39:07,345
and go to the police.
981
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:10,265
♪ ♪
982
00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:12,308
STEPHEN: Ladies and gentlemen,
it's true.
983
00:39:12,308 --> 00:39:15,770
Jay Mazini has been arrested.
984
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:18,773
And not for the reason
you think.
985
00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:21,025
WALLY: Honestly,
that was a surprise to us,
986
00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:22,652
what he was arrested for--
987
00:39:22,652 --> 00:39:24,862
for kidnapping and beating.
988
00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:27,782
After doing that video
with 50 Cent,
989
00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:30,451
I think he wanted
to kind of take on
990
00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:33,037
a little bit more
of a gangster type
991
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,289
of, like, persona.
992
00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:35,790
So that was
a little bit shocking.
993
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:37,959
But at the same time,
afterwards, it made sense.
994
00:39:37,959 --> 00:39:40,378
You know?
ABDUL: But he was arrested.
995
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:44,507
We watched
every moment of that
996
00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:47,176
on the New Jersey
state website.
997
00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:48,553
It was so relieving
to see this guy
998
00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:50,388
in an orange jumpsuit,
oh, my God.
999
00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:53,391
[triumphant music]
1000
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,685
♪ ♪
1001
00:39:55,685 --> 00:39:57,937
JEREMY: On one hand, you have
to be highly intelligent
1002
00:39:57,937 --> 00:39:59,522
to accomplish
some of these things
1003
00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:01,482
that these influencers
have done.
1004
00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:02,900
But at the same time,
1005
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,569
to sometimes act in a manner
1006
00:40:04,569 --> 00:40:06,154
that's so contrary
to your interest,
1007
00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:07,780
it's baffling.
1008
00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:09,699
How did you see this going?
1009
00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:12,535
You kidnap someone,
more likely than not,
1010
00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,412
they're probably gonna
go to the police.
1011
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:15,872
And then you're gonna
have to deal with
1012
00:40:15,872 --> 00:40:19,292
those ramifications.
1013
00:40:19,292 --> 00:40:21,127
I just don't get it.
1014
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:23,504
STEPHEN:
I couldn't believe it.
1015
00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:26,966
Obviously, I knew this guy
was a scammer.
1016
00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:28,676
I had no idea
he was capable of this.
1017
00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:34,015
♪ ♪
1018
00:40:36,142 --> 00:40:37,977
So Jay Mazini's
getting arrested,
1019
00:40:37,977 --> 00:40:40,730
you would think
that would be the end of it.
1020
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:43,066
But this story never stops.
1021
00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:45,818
♪ ♪
1022
00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:47,236
So right as all that's
happening,
1023
00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:49,572
Jay Mazini's wife
was allegedly trying
1024
00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:53,326
to bribe MJ
to recant his story.
1025
00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:56,329
And I was hearing rumors
that he might take it.
1026
00:40:56,329 --> 00:41:01,084
So I got on the phone with him
and I recorded the call.
1027
00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:05,046
Yeah.
I've never shared this before.
1028
00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:06,422
Here we go.
1029
00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:45,670
- You're hearing me realize
for the first time
1030
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:49,048
that MJ's about to change
his story
1031
00:41:49,048 --> 00:41:50,925
to try to get Jay Mazini out.
1032
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,016
[chuckles]
1033
00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:27,920
- The man got bribed!
1034
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,630
Yeah. [sighs]
It's unbelievable.
1035
00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:33,301
♪ ♪
1036
00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:35,094
It was very clear
at that point
1037
00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:37,847
that MJ was not after justice.
1038
00:42:37,847 --> 00:42:40,308
He was not after, you know,
1039
00:42:40,308 --> 00:42:42,351
making things right
for the victims.
1040
00:42:42,351 --> 00:42:46,105
He was out for himself
just like Jay was.
1041
00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,900
His angle was,
"Well, no, this is my shot.
1042
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,986
This is my opportunity
to get everything I want."
1043
00:42:51,986 --> 00:42:54,155
I can get Coffeezilla
to get me clicks
1044
00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:55,615
and then I'm gonna get
on the news.
1045
00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:57,241
And then I'm gonna get
on a documentary.
1046
00:42:57,241 --> 00:42:59,786
I'm sure he's happy
to talk to you guys.
1047
00:42:59,786 --> 00:43:04,499
And now he's in jail
for accepting the bribe.
1048
00:43:04,499 --> 00:43:07,585
♪ ♪
1049
00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:10,171
AMJAD: I'm being charged
with bribery.
1050
00:43:10,171 --> 00:43:14,967
They're saying that I was paid
to change my statement.
1051
00:43:16,552 --> 00:43:18,346
The first statement
that I gave
1052
00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:21,390
was right after
the kidnapping.
1053
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,893
And then after
some time passed by,
1054
00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:27,230
you know, I learned
some new information.
1055
00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:29,273
And I'm not gonna lie.
1056
00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:35,071
I was manipulated
by even my own family to--to--
1057
00:43:35,071 --> 00:43:38,366
to have a change of heart.
1058
00:43:38,366 --> 00:43:40,952
That was my biggest mistake.
1059
00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:45,832
♪ ♪
1060
00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:47,208
[cell door clangs]
1061
00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:48,417
ANCHOR:
In a complaint filed
1062
00:43:48,417 --> 00:43:50,795
in federal court in Brooklyn,
1063
00:43:50,795 --> 00:43:53,464
Jay Mazini, whose legal name
is Jebara Igbara,
1064
00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:55,883
was charged with wire fraud.
1065
00:43:57,718 --> 00:43:59,971
STEPHEN: Jay Mazini ended up
pleading guilty
1066
00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:01,222
to the kidnapping charge,
1067
00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:03,724
which he's gonna serve
five years for.
1068
00:44:03,724 --> 00:44:06,144
On the Bitcoin
wire fraud charges,
1069
00:44:06,144 --> 00:44:09,021
he potentially could serve
15 to 30 years.
1070
00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:12,108
And then Jay Mazini's wife
was arrested too.
1071
00:44:12,108 --> 00:44:13,693
Her, along with other people,
1072
00:44:13,693 --> 00:44:15,695
are charged with
trying to bribe
1073
00:44:15,695 --> 00:44:20,116
this guy right here
who got beat up.
1074
00:44:20,116 --> 00:44:21,993
- Okay. Good afternoon, all.
1075
00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:24,912
Mr. Jebara,
can you hear us and see us?
1076
00:44:24,912 --> 00:44:26,164
- Yes.
1077
00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:27,582
STEPHEN:
I watched Jay Mazini's
1078
00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:29,333
first court hearing.
1079
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,544
He's in an orange jumpsuit,
1080
00:44:31,544 --> 00:44:34,589
crying, because
he's finally realizing
1081
00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:37,466
the magnitude
of what he's done.
1082
00:44:39,260 --> 00:44:41,304
And...I don't know.
1083
00:44:41,304 --> 00:44:42,555
It was like the ending
1084
00:44:42,555 --> 00:44:44,473
of a really cathartic movie
or something,
1085
00:44:44,473 --> 00:44:47,310
where the--the music sweeps in
1086
00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:48,644
and you feel like
1087
00:44:48,644 --> 00:44:51,564
justice is finally
being served here.
1088
00:44:51,564 --> 00:44:54,984
♪ ♪
1089
00:44:54,984 --> 00:44:56,319
JEREMY:
So right now I'm flipping
1090
00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:59,989
through the voluminous
52-page complaint
1091
00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:03,951
that was asserted against
Jay and his family.
1092
00:45:03,951 --> 00:45:06,704
The allegations in here
are wide-ranging,
1093
00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:08,414
alleging everything from
1094
00:45:08,414 --> 00:45:12,627
fake stories of being robbed
to fraudulent promises
1095
00:45:12,627 --> 00:45:14,921
of fantastical returns
on investments
1096
00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:16,589
to embezzling funds
1097
00:45:16,589 --> 00:45:19,383
and using them
for personal purposes.
1098
00:45:19,383 --> 00:45:21,677
We got the case dismissed
against the family,
1099
00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:24,513
but Jay's got
a lot in front of him.
1100
00:45:24,513 --> 00:45:27,475
And given some of
these allegations,
1101
00:45:27,475 --> 00:45:30,353
the road
that Jay has to travel
1102
00:45:30,353 --> 00:45:33,189
to get through
all of his legal troubles
1103
00:45:33,189 --> 00:45:35,858
is not short.
1104
00:45:37,276 --> 00:45:39,779
WALLY: There's countless
victims of Jay Mazini.
1105
00:45:39,779 --> 00:45:41,447
The ones that we know of.
1106
00:45:41,447 --> 00:45:42,657
But there's a lot of people
1107
00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:43,950
that they don't want
to come out
1108
00:45:43,950 --> 00:45:45,326
and say anything, right?
1109
00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:47,912
There--there's the people
that feel ashamed.
1110
00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:49,538
I mean, honestly,
1111
00:45:49,538 --> 00:45:51,040
everybody in the community
felt ashamed.
1112
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,875
It transformed the community
1113
00:45:52,875 --> 00:45:54,794
from being so honest
with each other
1114
00:45:54,794 --> 00:45:56,504
and giving and caring
1115
00:45:56,504 --> 00:45:58,339
and to be like,
"Do I have to watch out
1116
00:45:58,339 --> 00:46:00,675
"for this person
to be the next person
1117
00:46:00,675 --> 00:46:02,927
that's looking
to take advantage?"
1118
00:46:02,927 --> 00:46:05,596
KARIM: When you scam people,
it's never a good thing.
1119
00:46:05,596 --> 00:46:08,849
There's a reason why it's
against our faith in Islam
1120
00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:10,851
that you're not supposed to do
these types of things.
1121
00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:14,313
And I hope people
don't equate us all
1122
00:46:14,313 --> 00:46:17,149
to one man's actions, you know?
1123
00:46:17,149 --> 00:46:18,901
ABDUL: He was able
to really sell himself
1124
00:46:18,901 --> 00:46:20,945
on, you know,
the fact that he was
1125
00:46:20,945 --> 00:46:21,988
this pious Muslim.
1126
00:46:21,988 --> 00:46:22,989
- I want to show you guys
1127
00:46:22,989 --> 00:46:24,740
the real definition of Islam.
1128
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,325
ABDUL: That stuck
a really strong chord with me.
1129
00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:28,411
I'm like, "You--you did this
to other people.
1130
00:46:28,411 --> 00:46:30,496
"You used faith,
1131
00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:33,249
"something
they're really devoted to,
1132
00:46:33,249 --> 00:46:35,501
and you take their money?"
1133
00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:36,836
That's why I was, like,
so kind of, like,
1134
00:46:36,836 --> 00:46:38,879
passionate about getting
this guy thrown in jail.
1135
00:46:41,090 --> 00:46:42,550
STEPHEN: I think
what's so compelling
1136
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:44,427
about social media
1137
00:46:44,427 --> 00:46:47,054
is just how deeply involved
you can get
1138
00:46:47,054 --> 00:46:48,806
in someone's life
1139
00:46:48,806 --> 00:46:52,351
that can be a fake,
that can be not real.
1140
00:46:52,351 --> 00:46:54,687
It could be constructed.
1141
00:46:54,687 --> 00:46:57,523
[soft dramatic music]
1142
00:46:57,523 --> 00:46:59,316
JEREMY: This power
of the influencer
1143
00:46:59,316 --> 00:47:01,027
is very, very real.
1144
00:47:01,027 --> 00:47:02,945
In my opinion,
social media enabled
1145
00:47:02,945 --> 00:47:05,114
this entire operation
to occur.
1146
00:47:05,114 --> 00:47:07,658
It enabled Jay Mazini to exist.
1147
00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:09,160
Without social media,
1148
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,829
he would have always just been
Jebara Igbara.
1149
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,165
- If you're suffering
through a hardship
1150
00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:16,459
and you need help--
somebody to uplift you,
1151
00:47:16,459 --> 00:47:18,544
somebody to give you hope,
somebody to, like--
1152
00:47:18,544 --> 00:47:20,838
to hold the light
at the end of the tunnel,
1153
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,882
I wanted to be that person.
1154
00:47:22,882 --> 00:47:25,634
I didn't do it
for just the money.
1155
00:47:25,634 --> 00:47:27,928
I wanted to pave the way
for the youth
1156
00:47:27,928 --> 00:47:30,556
so they could have
something to look up to.
1157
00:47:30,556 --> 00:47:32,475
They could have hope.
1158
00:47:32,475 --> 00:47:35,519
This is, uh, 10,000.
1159
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,188
- Oh, my God.
1160
00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:38,522
JAY: That's 10,000.
I'm serious.
1161
00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:40,274
MOTHER:
No, you not.
1162
00:47:40,274 --> 00:47:41,317
- Here's what's amazing,
1163
00:47:41,317 --> 00:47:43,194
I can't help but smile
1164
00:47:43,194 --> 00:47:45,738
when he gives
this woman $10,000
1165
00:47:45,738 --> 00:47:48,574
even though I know
where it came from.
1166
00:47:48,574 --> 00:47:51,911
That's just how powerful
this kind of content is.
1167
00:47:51,911 --> 00:47:53,829
- Hope everybody enjoys
this video.
1168
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:55,081
Take care, you guys.
1169
00:47:55,081 --> 00:48:02,046
♪ ♪
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