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Tonight on Beyond
Skinwalker Ranch...
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Talk about a perfect test pad
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that seems to be a sister
location to Skinwalker Ranch.
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What is that that
we're lookin' at?
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I don't know.
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- What was that?
- The temperature went up.
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- It just did it again.
- It did it.
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That's really weird.
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What was that?
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- Right there.
- There it is.
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It's getting more intense.
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What is that thing?
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For years, scientists
have been working
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to reveal the secrets
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible that the
clues to unlock the mystery
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are located beyond the borders
of this hub of high strangeness?
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- Now...
- Whoa!
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An ex-CIA agent
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and a veteran journalist
have been recruited
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by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high-stakes
mission across America.
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Look at all this activity
that's happening.
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- That's unbelievable.
- Oh my gosh,
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Look at that, look
at that, look at that.
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Uncover evidence
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that may finally
expose the truth.
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- What is that thing?
- It's getting more intense.
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You ever see anything
like this before?
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No.
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This is just the beginning.
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Sound like Brandon's here?
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Hey gentlemen,
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it's time to launch
our new initiative.
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I'd like you to meet our
two new investigators,
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Andy Bustamante and Paul Beban.
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- Mornin'.
- Paul. Hey, how are you?
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Nice to meet you. Hey,
Paul. Nice to meet you.
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These are the new
members of our team.
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We're anxious to launch efforts
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and have a lot to discuss
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as we take our investigation
beyond Skinwalker Ranch
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to some of these
other sites of interest.
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We appreciate
your qualifications.
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We have two professionals here
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that I think are a true
complement to our effort.
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Andy is a graduate of
the Air Force Academy,
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former CIA investigator
and retired Air Force.
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Paul Beban is an Emmy
Award-winning journalist
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with ABC and PBS
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and brings a level of
expertise and depth
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to the investigation
and documenting,
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really, what we will
be engaging with
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the sites as we proceed forward.
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- That is impressive.
- Well, we're excited
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to join the effort
and sort of see how
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all of our skill
sets fit together
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and, you know, get started.
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Erik and I have been talkin'
about this for a long time,
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and we've been kind of
running this idea by Brandon
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that Skinwalker Ranch,
while it is a unique place,
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it might not be the only
place around the globe
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that has a very interesting
phenomenon to be observed.
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But our bandwidth
is getting filled
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with all of the research
and investigation here.
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We need a task force,
a special ops team,
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that can help inform
what we're doing here
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and maybe what our
next experiments will be.
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So, your goal is
to find the places
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that have the weird stories,
take scientific measurements,
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collect data and even
poke the hornet's nest
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and see if any hornets fly out.
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We've got to see
what's goin' on,
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and it will help us understand:
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is... is Skinwalker Ranch
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isolated, very unique,
nothin' else is like it?
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Or is it connected
to something bigger?
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And I think that's what you
guys are gonna help us figure out.
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We'd like to arm you with
many of the third party experts
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that have aided
the investigation
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here at Skinwalker Ranch.
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Not only to establish
some continuity,
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but to provide a
level of resource.
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Skinwalker Ranch is base
camp to deploy assets.
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We see you truly as an
extension of our investigation.
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So, Paul and Andy,
as... as your work follows
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the model of what
we've established here
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at Skinwalker Ranch, I fully
expect as you collect your data
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and you're led by your data,
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your findings will help us
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to evolve our process
here at the ranch.
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Yeah, I mean, Paul and I come in
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really comfortable
with field work.
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We're used to going
out there in front,
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not really knowing
what we're stepping into,
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getting shot at, and
then coming back
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with whatever information
and intel we can collect.
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Hopefully, we won't get
shot at or tear gassed
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or any of the things
that have happened
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uh, in my previous line of work,
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but, you know, we're...
We're ready for anything
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and we're excited
to get out there.
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Given what we know,
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I think, you know,
our first project,
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not too far away, but with so
many similar characteristics,
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is... is gonna be really
interesting for you guys.
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- Please, do tell.
- Well, you've got my attention.
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So, we came into a book
called Merging Dimensions.
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It references a ranch,
Bradshaw Ranch.
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It's not far from a place
called Sedona, Arizona,
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which is commonly known,
even in tourist circles,
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as an area that in
and of itself is strange.
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Wonderful. I have
heard just a little
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about both of these locations.
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You couldn't have picked
a better place to start.
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So, the ranch itself
has actually had reports
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of UFO sightings...
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orb sightings...
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- strange creatures.
- Yup.
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The backstory of Bradshaw
Ranch is fascinating.
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Bob Bradshaw was really
an old-school cowboy
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who ended up turning
this place into a movie set.
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Elvis movies were filmed there.
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I mean, this place
was a bustling scene.
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It was a home. It
was a working film set.
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At the same time,
he and his family
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were experiencing, you know,
all kinds of high strangeness
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in a time when it just
really wasn't spoken of.
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I mean, he had a
business to run out there.
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We saw this spaceship.
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They were traveling
fast down that hillside
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and right into the ranch.
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It was really so... A
spectacular thing to see.
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Talk about a perfect test pad
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that seems to be a sister
location to Skinwalker Ranch.
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One thing that Bradshaw Ranch
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seems to have in common
with Skinwalker Ranch
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is the diversity of
activity and phenomena.
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We're gonna start with the data.
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We're gonna run
experiments out there,
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we're gonna see if we can
measure these phenomena,
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and we're gonna talk to
as many people as we can
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and try to get the
facts of the backstory.
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We've been able
to establish contact
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with the previous owner of
the ranch, John Bradshaw.
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His son, Mason,
is with him as well.
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They're the first people
we plan on talking to
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when we land on the ground.
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Well, I'm absolutely
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intrigued by this,
and I can't wait
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to see what you guys
find and report back.
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Just filled with anticipation.
Wishing you the best of luck.
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Yeah, yeah. Good
luck, gentlemen.
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All right. So, we're off. We'll
let you know what we find.
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Man, you could not ask for
a more spectacular location
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to start our
investigation, right?
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I mean, look at this
place. It's just stunning.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, there's Sedona itself,
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and then Bradshaw Ranch.
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Yes, if you consider
Bradshaw Ranch,
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you've got multiple
types of high strangeness
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that already correlate
with the high strangeness
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that they've recorded in
phenomenon at Skinwalker Ranch.
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- Right.
- Light orbs,
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Skinwalkers
themselves and portals.
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There are a lot of accounts here
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- that sound pretty fantastic.
- Pretty fantastic.
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And pretty far-fetched, right?
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How much are we
going to be willing
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to accept, as CIA agents,
investigative journalists?
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Where are we gonna say, "Okay,
this is something here on earth."
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"It could be real and true."
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The whole point of
what we're doin' here
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is pin these
extraordinary stories,
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these anecdotes and
experiences, to reality, right?
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We're gonna use
the scientific method.
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We're gonna try to
do more interviews.
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We're gonna run
some experiments.
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Are there ways to connect
what seems extraordinary
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to actual facts on the
ground right here in the world
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that aren't just, you
know, a tall tale?
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So, what I've
experienced in the field,
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and I'm sure you've
seen it too, Paul,
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is when you talk
to an eyewitness...
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- Yeah.
- They believe what they saw.
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But the real magic happens
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when you can create
bulletproof evidence
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separate from the
eyewitness experience itself.
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- Something you can measure.
- Yeah.
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Because that brings
a whole new level
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of depth and utility to
the eyewitness account.
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Now, in my time with CIA,
I've seen some crazy things.
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Things that nobody
thought was possible,
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and for sure things
that nobody believed,
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but they still proved
to be true in the end.
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It's really important when you
show up to do an investigation,
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you have to be open
to all the possibilities.
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Because if you
rule something out
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based on your own personal bias,
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you might miss the
most important piece.
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It gives you a thread to pull
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and then you layer that
with real scientific research
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and you get to see
where that data takes you.
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Well, now we're gonna
put that to the test.
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And we have the
benefit of the experience
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of the team at Skinwalker
to bear on this place,
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which is really untested.
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Yeah, we're visiting
other hornets nests.
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That's right.
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We're adding to the
list of hornets nests
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that we're gonna poke.
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- Well, here we are
-ANDY: Amazing.
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- How's it goin'?
- Hi there.
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- John.
- Mason.
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Hey, good to meet you.
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Thank you for meeting us.
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There's so much mystery here.
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Maybe just tell
us a little bit about
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what's the deal out here.
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Well, so it's a lot of
legacies and stories
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and just things that are out
there that people know about.
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We're not gonna tell
you what to believe,
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- but this is what's out there.
- Sure.
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It was about 1995, probably.
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My step mom, Linda, was
living out here with my dad.
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They were doin' dishes
and watching TV one night,
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and all of a sudden, Linda
looked out the window
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and there was
what appeared to be
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another time and space
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merging our dimension
with another dimension,
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almost like a projection
screen on a theater.
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So, we're talking about some
kind of space-time portal?
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That's what she
thought it was, yeah.
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- Okay.
- It's actually really close
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to where we're
standing right now.
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Great. Well, you lead the way.
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Let's go.
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There's a saying
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that extraordinary claims
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require extraordinary evidence.
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At the same time, when
someone tells me straight-faced,
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someone credible
like the Bradshaws,
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that an interdimensional
portal opened up,
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that's an amazing story.
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I want to know more about
that, but I also need some facts.
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I need some evidence.
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So, I'm open to
this, but I need more
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before I'm willing to say,
"You know what? You're right."
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What I'd like to do is
take a few measurements.
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All right. Well, let's get
started. Let's get to work.
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All right.
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Since radiation has been
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a serious safety problem
on Skinwalker Ranch...
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- Mine's beepin'.
- Your max is about 120?
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- Yes, 120 somethin'.
- That's pretty high.
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Andy and Paul have
brought in radiation expert
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and Skinwalker
veteran Casey Smith,
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to survey the entire
property for radioactive levels
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and locate any
concerning anomalies.
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- 'Sup, guys?
- Great to see you.
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- Good to see you guys.
- What's goin' on?
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Just seein' if we get any
radiation measurements out here.
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I was gonna say,
what do you got?
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I got a new toy this year.
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This is a gamma cam,
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and we're actually getting
visuals of any radiation
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that's actually
populating around us.
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The gamma camera from H3D
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is a high-resolution
imaging system
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that can record visuals
of flowing radiation.
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The camera also collects data
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of the volume, intensity
and composition
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of any radioactive material
that might be present.
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So, Casey, this is gonna
paint a different picture
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from what you've seen out
at Skinwalker, is that right?
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Yeah, so with the
imaging software on here,
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it's just nice to be
able to actually see,
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if there is radiation, where
is it actually coming from?
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You look at some of
the events that happened
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up at Skinwalker Ranch,
Travis got, you know,
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potentially burned with...
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On the skin with
some radiation burns.
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That could be a tunnel
entrance for all we know.
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I'd like to know
what's in this thing.
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Don't lift it up.
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Feel like, uh,
I've got a little bit
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of a headache or
somethin' happenin'.
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The next day, I
noticed weird red marks
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on my hand and my head.
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They were radiation burns.
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You know, we don't
know where it came from.
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So, if you had somethin'
like that, maybe you can see...
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"Hey, there's
somethin' that came out"
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"from the sky or the
ground or whatever."
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But with this, you'll
be able to pinpoint it.
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Yeah.
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Can I take this
for a test drive?
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Absolutely. So, I got a couple
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other pieces of
equipment over here too.
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I'll grab that as well, but
let's take this guy off here.
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Excellent. Thank you.
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- Mason, you wanna come with me?
- Oh, yeah.
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I wanna check out
some of what we see
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around these old remains.
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So, I'm not seeing anything
that looks dangerous.
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Organic matter releasing energy
is what we would expect to see.
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- This guy here.
- What do we got?
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This is an identiFINDER.
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It's got a sodium
iodide crystal in it.
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Is the idea that
you're basically
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- just scanning to...
- Yeah, you're just watching
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for the dose rates,
if anything changes.
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Let me walk over
and check these guys
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- and make sure they're goin'.
- Sure. Sure.
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Ideally, for our
own personal safety,
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we don't want to see anything.
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However, if we do see something,
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maybe there's some connection
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with all the strange things
that your family and others
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have reported out
here over the years.
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Check this out.
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The ranch house
is that direction.
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- Yep.
- You see that hot spot?
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- Yeah.
- There to the left.
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Yeah, you see it
radiating into the sky?
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Mm-hmm.
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That's a concentrated
area and a pinpoint.
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Well, that's interesting.
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What is that that
we're lookin' at?
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I don't know.
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It's like a...
Yeah, we got, like,
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a big streak over
here, and the streak...
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It's, like, bridging the bottom
of the screen to the top.
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Yeah. The red spots that
we're seeing are high intensity.
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Is it dangerous what
we're looking at?
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Right now, we're pretty low.
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I would suspect that we
would see some spots
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that's gonna be our
naturally occurring radiation
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that's in the ground,
thorium, uranium.
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The streaking that's
going off up into the sky,
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that's strange to me.
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To see this patch
of organic radiation
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in the direction of
the ranch house?
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It just leaves me baffled.
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This is a clear anomaly
that's in an area that has
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been reported multiple
times for high strangeness.
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What have you got, man?
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So check this out.
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We've been chasing
kind of a pinpoint red dot
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- across the field.
- Okay.
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Which makes it interesting.
And then we also see
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this strange
climbing into the sky.
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- Do you see that?
- What is that arc?
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It seems to be radiating
up into the atmosphere.
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I don't know what that is.
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This is happening in real time.
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And Casey, who's
an expert, is telling us
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he's never seen
anything like this before.
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It feels like we're on to
something right off the bat.
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Is there a way to
sort of hone in on it?
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Let me give it to you so
you can get a good view.
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Yeah. Here. Let
me trade you. Okay.
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So that...
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This is the source
in the ground,
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and that's radiation
into the sky.
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- Do you see it taking off?
- Whoa, what happened?
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00:14:16,375 --> 00:14:19,082
- We just lost the image.
- Is the camera failing?
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00:14:19,207 --> 00:14:21,667
The source disappeared
and then the camera.
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00:14:21,832 --> 00:14:22,832
Well, they're not...
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They go in and out.
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00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,875
Yeah, it's gone.
All of it's gone now.
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00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,625
You can't get the
camera back up at all.
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The minute I gave
this over to Paul
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and he talked about homing in
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00:14:32,417 --> 00:14:33,832
to track this thing
down, it failed.
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That is just so weird.
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Almost like it doesn't
wanna be found.
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What I'll do with the
data that we've collected,
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I need to go pull it into
the visualizer software,
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take a look at it,
look for those peaks
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that I saw up at
Skinwalker Ranch
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and see if they're
occurring here.
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I also want to kind
of keep poking around
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and take some more measurements.
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Terrific.
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With a strange radiation
anomaly detected,
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but an all-clear from Casey,
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00:14:59,125 --> 00:15:01,667
Andy and Paul are now
meeting with investigators
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00:15:01,832 --> 00:15:04,207
who have a story
of a strange creature
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00:15:04,332 --> 00:15:07,042
that terrorized Merging
Dimensions authors
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00:15:07,167 --> 00:15:09,667
Linda Bradshaw and Tom Dongo.
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All right, gentlemen,
be careful.
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- Okay.
- Little bit
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- of a rough way down here.
- Got it.
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Linda, obviously,
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00:15:16,457 --> 00:15:18,582
and Tom Dongo, did a
lot of exploring out here.
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What have you heard from Tom?
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In this subject matter
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00:15:21,582 --> 00:15:23,832
of this type of research,
Tom is at the top,
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and Linda the same.
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00:15:25,332 --> 00:15:27,082
So, they dedicated
their free time
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00:15:27,207 --> 00:15:29,500
in exploring the property
when a lot of incredible
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00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:30,986
and extraordinary
things happened.
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00:15:31,042 --> 00:15:33,707
So, Tom and Linda
were down here?
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00:15:33,875 --> 00:15:35,167
Yes.
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00:15:35,332 --> 00:15:37,000
He did write of one experience
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00:15:37,125 --> 00:15:39,167
where they had come
down to this general area,
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00:15:39,292 --> 00:15:42,417
and they were stopped in
their tracks by grunting sounds.
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00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:45,000
Within a short period of time of
hearing these grunting sounds
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00:15:45,167 --> 00:15:47,667
and listening, they heard
a roar which Tom described
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00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:49,207
much as an African lion roar.
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Something with a
much deeper voice
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00:15:51,042 --> 00:15:52,143
and something more powerful.
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00:15:52,167 --> 00:15:53,667
In fact, we had an experience
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00:15:53,792 --> 00:15:55,125
not too long ago ourselves,
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00:15:55,207 --> 00:15:57,167
and we heard the exact
same roar that Tom
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00:15:57,292 --> 00:15:59,350
had described years prior
when he was here with Linda.
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00:15:59,375 --> 00:16:01,707
We heard it several times,
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00:16:01,832 --> 00:16:03,332
and it sent a chill
down my spine.
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00:16:03,457 --> 00:16:05,917
We just... Both of us,
couldn't wait to get to the car.
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00:16:06,042 --> 00:16:09,167
Coming down, just,
probably about ten feet,
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00:16:09,292 --> 00:16:11,582
and something tapped
Alexandra on the back of the head.
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00:16:11,707 --> 00:16:14,167
Wait, I'm sorry, you felt
something actually touch you?
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00:16:14,292 --> 00:16:17,792
Yes. I was last in line,
so Jeremiah and our friend
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00:16:17,875 --> 00:16:21,417
were walking ahead of me, and
something tapped me on the head
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00:16:21,542 --> 00:16:23,542
just like that. It was...
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00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:25,167
- Twice.
- Mm-hmm. Twice.
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00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:26,970
So, it wasn't like you
bumped into a branch.
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00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,042
No, I didn't bump into anything.
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00:16:29,207 --> 00:16:31,207
And I looked behind me
and there was nothing there,
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00:16:31,375 --> 00:16:34,500
so I asked Jeremiah to quickly
take a picture with the flash.
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00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:37,250
And sure enough,
something did show up.
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00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:39,457
There was an orb next to me.
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00:16:40,707 --> 00:16:42,167
But I can't explain that.
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00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:44,457
- That's very interesting.
- So, when Tom
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00:16:44,582 --> 00:16:46,500
and Linda were referencing
the roar, the corral
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00:16:46,625 --> 00:16:48,683
was one of the places where
they would separate some of
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00:16:48,707 --> 00:16:50,683
the horses if they were
injured or if they were pregnant.
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00:16:50,707 --> 00:16:52,707
And there was an incident
with a pregnant mare
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00:16:52,832 --> 00:16:54,292
that started screaming as well.
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00:16:54,375 --> 00:16:56,082
And that's right
through the trees here.
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00:16:56,207 --> 00:16:58,250
- Let's go check it out.
- Okay, so that's close by.
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00:16:58,375 --> 00:16:59,917
- Very close by.
- All right.
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00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,707
- Look at this.
- So this is the corral?
445
00:17:03,832 --> 00:17:05,250
- This is it.
- Got it.
446
00:17:05,375 --> 00:17:07,041
Animals, of course,
447
00:17:07,166 --> 00:17:09,125
are excellent sensory
perceptive creatures.
448
00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:12,541
They usually know when something
abnormal is around before we do.
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00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:14,208
In this particular case,
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00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,375
when they could hear
this horse screaming...
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00:17:17,458 --> 00:17:19,058
she was so frightened
that her eyes seemed
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00:17:19,083 --> 00:17:21,333
to be bugging out of her
head and she was kicking
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00:17:21,416 --> 00:17:24,083
with her hind legs
at the enclosure.
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00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:27,166
Wow. Okay. So, how do
you make sense of that?
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00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:29,000
Something was
frightening the horses,
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00:17:29,083 --> 00:17:31,041
and they were hearing
this on a regular basis.
457
00:17:31,166 --> 00:17:33,375
When we talk about
a credibility scale
458
00:17:33,541 --> 00:17:36,125
in the intelligence world,
we talk about two things.
459
00:17:36,208 --> 00:17:37,851
We talk about the
credibility of the source,
460
00:17:37,875 --> 00:17:40,166
but we also talk about the
credibility of the information.
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00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:42,333
Jeremiah and Alexandra,
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00:17:42,458 --> 00:17:44,375
you see really
solid eye contact,
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00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:47,125
you see a level of
confidence as they explained
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00:17:47,208 --> 00:17:49,333
their own experiences
here on Bradshaw Ranch.
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00:17:49,458 --> 00:17:51,666
But credible
anecdotal information
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00:17:51,791 --> 00:17:53,375
is only part of the equation.
467
00:17:53,541 --> 00:17:55,500
We have to take from
that anecdotal input
468
00:17:55,583 --> 00:17:57,833
something that we
can apply science to
469
00:17:57,958 --> 00:17:59,500
so we can pull
real facts from it.
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00:17:59,666 --> 00:18:01,708
I think that's why we have
our boots on the ground.
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00:18:01,875 --> 00:18:03,458
Try to see it firsthand.
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00:18:07,541 --> 00:18:09,541
At Bradshaw Ranch
in Sedona, Arizona,
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00:18:09,708 --> 00:18:12,125
investigators, Paul Beban
and Andy Bustamante
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00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:14,333
have heard stories
of high strangeness
475
00:18:14,458 --> 00:18:15,833
occurring by the horse corral.
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00:18:15,958 --> 00:18:17,500
Something was
frightening the horses
477
00:18:17,583 --> 00:18:19,000
on a regular basis,
478
00:18:19,125 --> 00:18:20,833
and she was kicking
with her hind legs
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00:18:20,916 --> 00:18:22,541
at the enclosure, screaming.
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00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:24,208
So they've called
in Skinwalker Ranch
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00:18:24,333 --> 00:18:26,416
expert Guy Blocker to conduct
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00:18:26,541 --> 00:18:29,750
a thermal temperature
test for signs of an anomaly.
483
00:18:35,291 --> 00:18:37,000
Guy, I really appreciate
you comin' out
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00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:39,000
on a cold night
to be part of this.
485
00:18:39,083 --> 00:18:41,000
Now, and you had
an extraordinary
486
00:18:41,166 --> 00:18:43,083
- experience at Skinwalker...
- Yes, I did.
487
00:18:43,208 --> 00:18:44,541
Out at the old homestead.
488
00:18:44,666 --> 00:18:46,166
Yeah, that was
really interesting.
489
00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:48,083
Okay, guys, I have all
the cameras on record,
490
00:18:48,208 --> 00:18:49,500
so we're recording right now.
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00:18:49,625 --> 00:18:51,333
In my experience with thermal,
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00:18:51,416 --> 00:18:53,250
I normally experience
temperature changes
493
00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:55,000
where if there's
a physical entity
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00:18:55,083 --> 00:18:57,000
steps in, temperatures go up.
495
00:18:57,083 --> 00:18:58,541
I was expecting a decrease,
496
00:18:58,708 --> 00:19:00,833
and instead we saw
an 11 degree increase.
497
00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,791
Look at the screen.
498
00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:06,041
Just seconds after the
recording began to play,
499
00:19:06,166 --> 00:19:08,000
there was an obvious
rise in temperature
500
00:19:08,083 --> 00:19:10,250
being shown across
the thermal camera feed.
501
00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,000
Just like a switch got flipped.
502
00:19:12,125 --> 00:19:14,291
So, to make this
the most viable,
503
00:19:14,416 --> 00:19:16,500
scientifically relevant
experiment we can,
504
00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:18,833
we want to follow the
same sequence of events.
505
00:19:18,916 --> 00:19:20,166
What's our trigger?
506
00:19:20,291 --> 00:19:22,375
We've got a 1.6
gigahertz frequency
507
00:19:22,541 --> 00:19:24,958
that we're gonna play here,
and that's similar to something
508
00:19:25,041 --> 00:19:26,791
they detected
there at Skinwalker.
509
00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:28,333
Right.
510
00:19:28,458 --> 00:19:30,375
Since the Skinwalker experiment
511
00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:33,291
played an audio signal to
stimulate a rise in temperature,
512
00:19:33,375 --> 00:19:35,541
the team plans to
play back the audio
513
00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:39,666
of the 1.6 gigahertz signal
recorded at Skinwalker Ranch.
514
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:43,625
This 1.6 gigahertz frequency
repeatedly shows up
515
00:19:43,708 --> 00:19:46,750
at Skinwalker, accompanied
by high strangeness.
516
00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:49,958
If any temperature fluctuations
happen near the corral,
517
00:19:50,083 --> 00:19:53,541
they'll be pinpointed by Guy
Blocker's thermal cameras.
518
00:19:53,708 --> 00:19:57,625
These fluctuations could be
further evidence of an anomaly.
519
00:19:57,708 --> 00:19:59,333
My thought is we
aim that crosshair
520
00:19:59,416 --> 00:20:00,625
in the center of the corral.
521
00:20:00,708 --> 00:20:02,333
That's a good
place to start, right?
522
00:20:02,416 --> 00:20:04,083
We also have your traditional
523
00:20:04,208 --> 00:20:06,958
analog-style thermometers
hangin' up on the fence.
524
00:20:07,041 --> 00:20:08,558
This is giving us
multiple data points.
525
00:20:08,583 --> 00:20:09,982
I think we're ready
for our trigger.
526
00:20:10,041 --> 00:20:11,708
- Yeah.
- Let's give it a try.
527
00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:15,625
As you can see, right
now we're at 28.2.
528
00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:18,083
- Our high is 38.6.
- High is 38,
529
00:20:18,208 --> 00:20:19,887
and that's the tree
line behind the corral.
530
00:20:19,916 --> 00:20:22,833
- Perfect. Start the audio?
- I'm ready when you are, man.
531
00:20:34,583 --> 00:20:36,125
All right, there's our signal.
532
00:20:48,666 --> 00:20:51,333
Everything looks like
it's holding steady here.
533
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,541
The noise is just
not what it was.
534
00:21:12,666 --> 00:21:14,833
It's weird. It goes in and out.
535
00:21:14,916 --> 00:21:18,250
It's so much quieter than it
was when we first played it.
536
00:21:19,458 --> 00:21:21,333
I don't know why it's so low.
537
00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:23,958
- The volume.
- No, it's ma...
538
00:21:24,083 --> 00:21:25,458
I mean, maximum volume.
539
00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:33,833
All right, I think
all we can get now
540
00:21:33,958 --> 00:21:35,166
is a few seconds of your time.
541
00:21:35,291 --> 00:21:37,083
Right.
542
00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:38,833
Paul, it's shifting on us.
543
00:21:38,958 --> 00:21:40,458
Yeah.
544
00:21:40,583 --> 00:21:42,166
PAUL, ANDY: What was that?
545
00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:43,791
The temperature went up.
546
00:21:43,875 --> 00:21:46,000
It just did it again.
547
00:21:46,125 --> 00:21:47,291
That's really weird.
548
00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:49,541
39.8, 32.
549
00:21:55,125 --> 00:21:56,750
We're comin' up on 40 over here.
550
00:21:56,875 --> 00:22:00,458
Yep. Every time the audio
comes back on, it does it.
551
00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:03,041
It's happened faster,
but it's not unlike
552
00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:05,268
what happened at Homestead
where we had that increase.
553
00:22:05,291 --> 00:22:07,000
That was a drastic change.
554
00:22:07,125 --> 00:22:08,500
That was weird.
555
00:22:08,625 --> 00:22:11,833
Watching the temperature
increase five degrees
556
00:22:11,916 --> 00:22:15,083
while nothing else has
changed except for the playing
557
00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:17,500
of a 1.6 gigahertz
communication signal,
558
00:22:17,583 --> 00:22:19,833
seeing the
environment react to that
559
00:22:19,916 --> 00:22:22,208
is just something that
leaves you speechless.
560
00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:24,333
I mean, wouldn't
you expect to see just
561
00:22:24,416 --> 00:22:25,750
a steadily dropping temperature?
562
00:22:25,875 --> 00:22:28,333
Yes, I would, because
as, you know, as...
563
00:22:28,416 --> 00:22:30,708
As the night goes on, we're
losing more and more heat.
564
00:22:30,875 --> 00:22:33,183
Because we have a clear sky,
so there's nothing holding it in.
565
00:22:33,208 --> 00:22:34,500
Clear sky and it's quite still.
566
00:22:34,666 --> 00:22:36,250
I mean, there might
be elevated breeze,
567
00:22:36,375 --> 00:22:37,683
but there's not much
movement down here.
568
00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:39,375
This is not unlike what happened
569
00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,375
at Homestead where we
had an 11-degree increase
570
00:22:41,541 --> 00:22:43,416
in the space of, like,
a couple of minutes.
571
00:22:43,541 --> 00:22:45,791
Whereas with this, it
went up about five degrees
572
00:22:45,916 --> 00:22:48,250
and then it's slowly
coming back down.
573
00:22:48,375 --> 00:22:50,583
We're hundreds of miles
from Skinwalker Ranch,
574
00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:52,416
replicating as closely as we can
575
00:22:52,541 --> 00:22:56,416
the same experiments,
and seeing similar results.
576
00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,666
You can't ignore it.
Something happened here.
577
00:22:58,791 --> 00:23:01,375
Why would this audio
trigger that spike?
578
00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,083
I don't think this
was gonna happen
579
00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:04,875
if we did it in...
In our backyard.
580
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,208
If it did, I'd move.
581
00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:08,125
Yeah. Exactly.
582
00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:11,416
Guy, we've seen this now in
Skinwalker Ranch with you,
583
00:23:11,541 --> 00:23:13,458
we've seen this now
in Bradshaw Ranch.
584
00:23:13,583 --> 00:23:16,125
Is this kind of activity
something you see regularly?
585
00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:17,851
No, it's only when I
hang out with you guys
586
00:23:17,875 --> 00:23:19,375
that this kind of
thing happens to me.
587
00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:21,041
I'm bringin' you along
588
00:23:21,166 --> 00:23:22,541
more often, my man.
589
00:23:22,666 --> 00:23:24,018
No, seriously though,
thank you, Guy.
590
00:23:24,041 --> 00:23:25,250
We got somethin' here
591
00:23:25,375 --> 00:23:26,791
- to push further.
- Yeah. I...
592
00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:28,583
I think it requires
further investigation.
593
00:23:34,375 --> 00:23:35,708
I don't know about you, Andy,
594
00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:37,625
but I feel like we're
off to a great start.
595
00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,427
We've gotten some
really interesting results
596
00:23:39,541 --> 00:23:41,416
really right off the bat.
597
00:23:41,541 --> 00:23:43,601
Every time we've broken
out a new set of instruments,
598
00:23:43,625 --> 00:23:45,500
we've gotten
something surprising.
599
00:23:45,625 --> 00:23:47,666
Yeah, you see it
radiating into the sky?
600
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:49,500
Starting with the radiological.
601
00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:52,500
Why is there organic
radiation in the sky?
602
00:23:52,625 --> 00:23:54,125
What is that that
we're lookin' at?
603
00:23:54,208 --> 00:23:55,500
I don't know.
604
00:23:55,583 --> 00:23:57,208
What we saw with Casey,
605
00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:58,851
I was not expecting
anything like that.
606
00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:01,250
Casey wasn't expecting
anything like that.
607
00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:02,851
And then the thermal
test that we ran.
608
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:05,291
That's five degrees
of change with nothing
609
00:24:05,375 --> 00:24:07,541
to trigger it
except for a sound.
610
00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:09,833
Something brought
that temperature up.
611
00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:11,541
What was that?
612
00:24:11,666 --> 00:24:13,291
The temperature went up.
613
00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:15,291
It just did it again.
614
00:24:15,375 --> 00:24:17,166
- It just did it.
- That's really weird.
615
00:24:17,291 --> 00:24:18,791
We've been able
to replicate some
616
00:24:18,875 --> 00:24:20,643
of the same outcomes
that they had at Skinwalker,
617
00:24:20,666 --> 00:24:22,000
which is what we
came here to do.
618
00:24:22,125 --> 00:24:24,541
Was to repeat, test,
replicate and measure.
619
00:24:24,666 --> 00:24:28,000
I think one of the next
things to do is to try to bring in
620
00:24:28,125 --> 00:24:31,541
some of the laser testing
that they've done at Skinwalker.
621
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:34,166
On Skinwalker Ranch,
622
00:24:34,291 --> 00:24:35,750
the team from Nu-Salt Laser
623
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:37,666
has conducted
several experiments
624
00:24:37,791 --> 00:24:39,583
to try to stimulate anomalies...
625
00:24:39,708 --> 00:24:41,625
Holy cow. Look at that.
626
00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:44,333
Which resulted in a
correlating U.A.P. sighting
627
00:24:44,458 --> 00:24:45,625
in 2021.
628
00:24:45,708 --> 00:24:46,833
- You see this?
- Yeah.
629
00:24:46,916 --> 00:24:48,500
What the crap is that?
630
00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:49,958
Unbelievable.
631
00:24:50,041 --> 00:24:51,666
Now, Andy and Paul want to see
632
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:54,375
what effect that same
technology will have
633
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,166
at Bradshaw Ranch.
634
00:24:56,291 --> 00:25:01,291
As far as a starting point, where
Bob Bradshaw saw a U.F.O.,
635
00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,833
you know, slide
down that hillside.
636
00:25:02,958 --> 00:25:07,541
We saw this
spaceship traveling fast
637
00:25:07,708 --> 00:25:10,041
down that hillside
and right into the ranch.
638
00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:12,558
I agree. I think that's
a perfect place to start.
639
00:25:12,583 --> 00:25:13,833
It's centrally located.
640
00:25:13,958 --> 00:25:15,958
We've had some great
data, but there's still
641
00:25:16,083 --> 00:25:18,123
a lot of questions out there
that we need to answer.
642
00:25:18,208 --> 00:25:20,268
Yeah, we've got some answers,
there are a lot more questions,
643
00:25:20,291 --> 00:25:22,041
- we've got more work to do.
- Absolutely.
644
00:25:22,166 --> 00:25:24,333
We're gonna fire up the
laser and see what happens.
645
00:25:24,416 --> 00:25:25,875
I agree, let's do that.
646
00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:34,416
With their next plan
of attack focused
647
00:25:34,541 --> 00:25:36,375
on the ridge where
Bob Bradshaw had
648
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,333
his infamous U.F.O. sighting,
649
00:25:38,458 --> 00:25:40,208
along with John and
Mason Bradshaw,
650
00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:43,000
Andy and Paul have
called in Skinwalker Ranch
651
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:46,041
laser experts, Tim
Anderson and Jeremy Fenton,
652
00:25:46,166 --> 00:25:48,166
to help with their
next experiment.
653
00:25:48,291 --> 00:25:49,833
That looks like a good spot.
654
00:25:49,958 --> 00:25:51,916
Guys, thank you so
much for comin' out.
655
00:25:52,041 --> 00:25:54,666
So, these guys at
Skinwalker have shot lasers,
656
00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:56,250
- what, at the ridge?
- Yup.
657
00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:57,708
Up into the sky?
658
00:25:57,833 --> 00:25:59,593
What have you got for
us? What did you bring?
659
00:25:59,708 --> 00:26:01,833
We want to run a lot of
the same kind of tests,
660
00:26:01,916 --> 00:26:04,000
and more, like you've
been doin' at Skinwalker.
661
00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:07,416
So we brought with us two
laser light show projectors,
662
00:26:07,541 --> 00:26:09,583
and we're gonna
do a raster scan.
663
00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:11,500
So, it's really just
gonna illuminate
664
00:26:11,583 --> 00:26:13,833
this whole area with laser.
665
00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:16,041
In this experiment,
the laser will scan
666
00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:18,833
the ridge from side to
side and top to bottom.
667
00:26:18,958 --> 00:26:21,666
By adding light energy
to the environment,
668
00:26:21,791 --> 00:26:23,916
the hope is to
stimulate an anomaly,
669
00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:27,333
or the beams could
detect a U.A.P.
670
00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,458
by bending or disappearing
671
00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:31,833
while refracting off
the unknown object.
672
00:26:31,916 --> 00:26:34,166
So, we not only
have this sighting
673
00:26:34,291 --> 00:26:35,458
that happened in this area,
674
00:26:35,541 --> 00:26:36,916
but we've also had some strange
675
00:26:37,041 --> 00:26:38,708
thermal readings
in that direction.
676
00:26:38,833 --> 00:26:41,083
We've had some radiation
anomalies that have happened
677
00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:42,833
over the ranch
house in this direction.
678
00:26:42,958 --> 00:26:45,833
This location gives
us a really central spot
679
00:26:45,958 --> 00:26:47,583
to set up the laser arrays here
680
00:26:47,708 --> 00:26:49,125
and shine them
in that direction.
681
00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:51,333
I think it's time to
poke the hornet's nest.
682
00:26:51,416 --> 00:26:52,833
See what we find.
683
00:26:54,125 --> 00:26:56,208
In addition to the
laser technology,
684
00:26:56,333 --> 00:26:57,916
Andy and Paul are also deploying
685
00:26:58,041 --> 00:27:01,208
multiple scientific tools
to monitor the area.
686
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:03,416
So, we've got kind of a
cool treat for you guys.
687
00:27:03,541 --> 00:27:05,166
- Yeah.
- This is a new piece
688
00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:07,000
of equipment called a UFODAP.
689
00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:08,708
It's essentially a
piece of equipment
690
00:27:08,833 --> 00:27:10,708
that puts nonstop
eyes on the sky.
691
00:27:10,833 --> 00:27:13,541
Actively monitoring from
two different base stations,
692
00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:15,833
it's able to search
what the air traffic is,
693
00:27:15,958 --> 00:27:18,041
so that once it
zones in on a target,
694
00:27:18,166 --> 00:27:19,916
it'll track that target
through the sky.
695
00:27:20,041 --> 00:27:22,000
These are basically
robot cameras.
696
00:27:22,083 --> 00:27:24,042
If they see anything
that isn't a bird or a plane,
697
00:27:24,208 --> 00:27:25,833
they're gonna lock
on it, and then we can
698
00:27:25,958 --> 00:27:27,625
analyze all that data afterward.
699
00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:29,748
Really looking forward to
seeing how all this works.
700
00:27:29,833 --> 00:27:31,208
So I'm gonna move this one
701
00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:32,933
a little farther over
into this clearing.
702
00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:34,750
It's actually got a
good shot of the hill
703
00:27:34,875 --> 00:27:37,000
- and the sky behind us.
- Great. And this guy
704
00:27:37,083 --> 00:27:39,042
is gonna head over here
closest to the laser show.
705
00:27:39,083 --> 00:27:41,083
- Perfect.
- Kinda want these
706
00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:43,583
to sit on top of each other,
but maybe a little bit higher.
707
00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:44,726
- Try that.
- FLIR should be up
708
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,125
on a monitor now, Andy.
709
00:27:46,208 --> 00:27:47,708
- You got it, Paul.
- Excellent.
710
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,416
Both UFODAPS are scanning.
711
00:27:49,541 --> 00:27:51,166
So, what we have
first are the UFODAP.
712
00:27:51,250 --> 00:27:53,333
We codenamed them
Hunter and Tracker.
713
00:27:53,458 --> 00:27:56,541
So here, Hunter's on the
bottom, cued into his piece of sky.
714
00:27:56,666 --> 00:27:58,166
Tracker is over here,
715
00:27:58,250 --> 00:28:00,500
and they're actively
monitoring right now.
716
00:28:00,583 --> 00:28:02,875
Here we have the
FLIR thermal camera.
717
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
It's actively
monitoring this ridgeline
718
00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:07,916
and the area from the
ground up to the sky.
719
00:28:08,041 --> 00:28:10,500
And then lastly, we
have active tracking
720
00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:12,208
of our radio
signals in the area.
721
00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:15,625
So, we'll be actively monitoring
the entire radio spectrum
722
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:17,476
while we're going through
the experimentation today.
723
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,041
I think we have all of the
hardware and software set up.
724
00:28:20,208 --> 00:28:22,375
I think the only thing
left is to wait for nightfall.
725
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:23,625
Exactly.
726
00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:31,833
We've got everything set up.
727
00:28:31,958 --> 00:28:33,458
I'm ready to go. You
guys ready to go?
728
00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:35,125
- Let's get to it.
- Absolutely.
729
00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:36,583
Andy and Paul
730
00:28:36,708 --> 00:28:39,000
have brought in Skinwalker
Ranch laser experts
731
00:28:39,083 --> 00:28:42,666
Tim Anderson and Jeremy
Fenton to try to stimulate an anomaly
732
00:28:42,791 --> 00:28:46,000
at the ridge where Bob
Bradshaw spotted a U.F.O.
733
00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:48,458
They've also set
up their own tech
734
00:28:48,541 --> 00:28:50,000
to help them monitor the area
735
00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:52,166
during the laser
light experiment.
736
00:28:52,291 --> 00:28:54,875
I'm gonna arm the UFODAPs
so they start scanning the sky.
737
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,583
After that, we want
you to make sure
738
00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:58,333
that we hit the FLIR,
and once we have
739
00:28:58,458 --> 00:29:00,875
all three devices rolling,
we turn it over to you guys.
740
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,416
- Okay.
- Ready to rock?
741
00:29:02,541 --> 00:29:03,541
- All right.
- Yes.
742
00:29:03,666 --> 00:29:05,708
We're live on Hunter.
743
00:29:07,541 --> 00:29:09,708
We're live on Tracker.
744
00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:11,416
Both UFODAPs are scanning.
745
00:29:11,541 --> 00:29:16,666
Temp steady so far.
Our high is 36.8, low 22.4.
746
00:29:16,791 --> 00:29:18,791
- Lasers ready.
- Let's do it.
747
00:29:18,875 --> 00:29:20,458
All right, everybody,
here we go.
748
00:29:20,541 --> 00:29:24,708
Three, two, one, hit it.
749
00:29:27,208 --> 00:29:29,000
- Nice.
- Look at that.
750
00:29:30,208 --> 00:29:32,208
Remember, we've gotten
reports not just in the sky,
751
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:33,833
- but also in the woods.
- Yup.
752
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,541
In the wash.
753
00:29:35,666 --> 00:29:37,833
We've got to keep
our eyes all around.
754
00:29:37,916 --> 00:29:39,708
As we're carrying
out this experiment,
755
00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:41,875
we're trying to paint
this hillside with energy,
756
00:29:42,041 --> 00:29:44,666
trying to recreate
or trigger something
757
00:29:44,833 --> 00:29:47,000
along the lines of what
Bob Bradshaw saw.
758
00:29:47,125 --> 00:29:48,958
What is the range of that?
759
00:29:49,083 --> 00:29:52,666
These lasers are good for
about a mile to two miles.
760
00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:54,500
It all depends on
the atmosphere.
761
00:29:54,583 --> 00:29:55,958
We don't really have any clouds,
762
00:29:56,041 --> 00:29:58,000
so it's gonna
continue into space.
763
00:29:58,083 --> 00:30:00,323
Paul, I'm gonna start scanning
some of these frequencies.
764
00:30:01,083 --> 00:30:03,208
We're expecting to
see some U.H.F. traffic,
765
00:30:03,333 --> 00:30:05,291
but anything that's
anomalous, this will pick up
766
00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:07,791
and we'll be able to hone
in and listen to the signal.
767
00:30:07,875 --> 00:30:09,916
Got it.
768
00:30:11,625 --> 00:30:13,875
So, this is the kind of
spike that we're looking for.
769
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,666
That's interesting. That shows
it's an active transmission.
770
00:30:16,791 --> 00:30:18,250
- See how tall it is?
- Yeah.
771
00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:19,833
So, I'm gonna see if we can
772
00:30:19,916 --> 00:30:21,541
identify the right bandwidth
773
00:30:21,666 --> 00:30:23,291
to actually listen
in to the signal.
774
00:30:23,375 --> 00:30:24,976
So, you're saying that's
a local transmission
775
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,458
of some kind that
we're picking up?
776
00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:27,916
Correct.
777
00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:32,666
Let me hear it. Ah? Come on.
778
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,416
Come on.
779
00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:39,791
I'm gonna take this
one hertz at a time.
780
00:30:40,666 --> 00:30:42,375
We're zooming in on the signal.
781
00:30:47,041 --> 00:30:50,583
There she is. At 1.6 gigahertz.
782
00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:53,291
1.6 is what they
see at Skinwalker.
783
00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:55,083
Correct. We're not
sending anything.
784
00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:57,708
No, we are not
transmitting that.
785
00:30:57,875 --> 00:30:59,541
We are picking up the signal.
786
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,269
- You see that?
- It just did it again.
787
00:31:03,375 --> 00:31:05,083
Like a pulse. There it is again!
788
00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:07,041
- Oh, yeah.
- Right there.
789
00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:08,851
Whoa, that's the biggest
one we've seen so far.
790
00:31:08,875 --> 00:31:11,041
The fact that we're
seeing this transmission
791
00:31:11,166 --> 00:31:13,458
when we were not seeing
this transmission earlier
792
00:31:13,541 --> 00:31:15,166
is significant.
793
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:18,250
This mysterious
1.6 gigahertz signal
794
00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:20,916
pops up again and again
during active experimentations
795
00:31:21,041 --> 00:31:22,458
on Skinwalker Ranch.
796
00:31:22,541 --> 00:31:23,958
Hey, hey, hey, it's here.
797
00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:26,166
We've got that 1.6 thing.
798
00:31:26,291 --> 00:31:28,083
We're clearly getting' a signal.
799
00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:31,416
Now, what's interesting
is a signal of this strength,
800
00:31:31,541 --> 00:31:32,916
1.6 gigahertz,
801
00:31:33,041 --> 00:31:35,333
is an interstellar
communication signal.
802
00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:37,875
Anybody on earth
who is a professional
803
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,875
treats 1.6 as a
privileged frequency
804
00:31:41,041 --> 00:31:42,916
that's only used
for communication
805
00:31:43,041 --> 00:31:45,083
from earth to space
and space to earth.
806
00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:49,166
It's coming to us from
space. Is that right?
807
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,791
That's... that's right. The
only thing I can think of.
808
00:31:51,875 --> 00:31:53,250
These are radio frequencies
809
00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:55,666
that are available only
to the military to co-opt.
810
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:57,541
So, could it be a satellite?
811
00:31:57,666 --> 00:32:00,083
If it was a satellite signal,
it would come and go.
812
00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:02,041
It's not energy
efficient for a satellite
813
00:32:02,166 --> 00:32:03,500
to constantly transmit.
814
00:32:03,666 --> 00:32:05,000
Instead, they have
scheduled times
815
00:32:05,125 --> 00:32:06,845
and scheduled locations
where they transmit.
816
00:32:06,875 --> 00:32:08,333
That way, as they
go around the earth
817
00:32:08,458 --> 00:32:10,500
they send their signal,
receiver picks it up,
818
00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:13,500
and then they can store
energy for the next rotation.
819
00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:16,500
I can't help but think
that the lasers have had
820
00:32:16,666 --> 00:32:17,893
something to do with this, Paul.
821
00:32:17,916 --> 00:32:19,333
I don't know what
else it could be.
822
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:20,625
We are pumping
823
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:21,916
all this light energy out
824
00:32:22,041 --> 00:32:24,041
out onto the hillside
with our lasers,
825
00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:25,833
and the spectrum analyzer
826
00:32:25,958 --> 00:32:27,833
is picking up all kinds
of crazy frequencies.
827
00:32:27,916 --> 00:32:30,041
The same place that
Bob Bradshaw saw
828
00:32:30,166 --> 00:32:33,000
that U.F.O. so many years ago.
829
00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:35,208
Something has to be
causing all that to happen.
830
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:38,416
Is it the lasers? It's
certainly a possibility.
831
00:32:38,541 --> 00:32:40,833
With so many anomalies
happening at the same time,
832
00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:42,333
it's hard to keep
up with them all.
833
00:32:42,458 --> 00:32:44,791
I kind of want to
just embrace this.
834
00:32:46,666 --> 00:32:48,291
What was that?
835
00:32:54,666 --> 00:32:55,791
- Another one?
- Right there.
836
00:32:55,916 --> 00:32:56,933
There it is. Look at that.
837
00:32:56,958 --> 00:32:58,541
Look at that, look at that.
838
00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:00,125
What is that?
839
00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:01,875
That's the UFODAP
doin' it's job.
840
00:33:02,041 --> 00:33:03,791
That small square,
that small red square
841
00:33:03,875 --> 00:33:05,083
is where it's zoomed in.
842
00:33:05,208 --> 00:33:06,875
Aw, it just left...
843
00:33:07,041 --> 00:33:09,000
Oh, it's... Check it
out. Look over here.
844
00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:11,041
Paul, look at that! It's
getting more intense.
845
00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:13,291
Look at how bright it
is. What is that thing?
846
00:33:13,375 --> 00:33:15,166
That is zoomed in
847
00:33:15,291 --> 00:33:17,666
on an object in the sky
that fits the definitions
848
00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:19,958
for an anomaly.
849
00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:21,481
I'm freakin' out.
Look at that thing.
850
00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:23,000
And it passed through Hunter
851
00:33:23,125 --> 00:33:24,666
and into Tracker's
line of sight,
852
00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:26,333
and it was recorded.
853
00:33:26,458 --> 00:33:28,433
All right, so this is the
hit that Hunter picked up.
854
00:33:28,458 --> 00:33:30,666
- Flickers in and out.
- Oh, look at that.
855
00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:33,166
Whoa, whoa, whoa, can you
scroll back and slow that down?
856
00:33:33,291 --> 00:33:35,092
There it is. Look at
that shape. What is that?
857
00:33:35,208 --> 00:33:37,000
I think it picks it
up right about here.
858
00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:38,833
Let's bring up the
second camera.
859
00:33:38,916 --> 00:33:41,208
Yep, same thing
on the other camera.
860
00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:43,666
I mean, the movement is
faster than a plane would be,
861
00:33:43,791 --> 00:33:46,916
and those lights are not
flickering in the same pattern.
862
00:33:47,041 --> 00:33:49,250
I mean, you were
in the Air Force.
863
00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:52,250
You ever seen anything that
has this sort of light pattern?
864
00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:54,916
What I know,
Paul, is that aircraft
865
00:33:55,041 --> 00:33:57,166
are required to have
two colored lights,
866
00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:58,625
a green light and a red light.
867
00:33:58,708 --> 00:34:00,625
If they're landing, they
have landing lights,
868
00:34:00,708 --> 00:34:02,000
which are a bright white light.
869
00:34:02,125 --> 00:34:04,625
What we just saw
had no colored lights
870
00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:06,958
and it had multiple
flickering white lights only.
871
00:34:07,041 --> 00:34:08,833
Like it's tumbling,
and those lights
872
00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:11,291
are flickering as
it goes around.
873
00:34:11,375 --> 00:34:14,500
When it's frozen there,
there are two distinct sources
874
00:34:14,625 --> 00:34:18,583
of light, and then when
it flickers, it is very bright.
875
00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:21,000
- Boom.
- That's almost explosive.
876
00:34:21,083 --> 00:34:22,500
It's pulsing.
877
00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:26,958
This is a U.A.P. There's
no question about it.
878
00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:32,166
All at the same site
where Bob, your dad,
879
00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:36,250
reported having an alien
spacecraft hover over his head.
880
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:39,000
I have come into
this entire experience
881
00:34:39,125 --> 00:34:40,500
with an open mind.
882
00:34:40,666 --> 00:34:42,083
I am a skeptic by nature,
883
00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:43,333
I'm a skeptic by training.
884
00:34:43,458 --> 00:34:45,291
It's part of my profession.
885
00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:48,708
However, when you have
an experience like we've had,
886
00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:50,375
you have to step back
887
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,166
and sort of reevaluate
all your assumptions.
888
00:34:53,291 --> 00:34:56,125
We could be on to something
here that's really extraordinary.
889
00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:59,166
I can't wait to show
this to Erik and Travis
890
00:34:59,291 --> 00:35:00,452
and see what they make of it.
891
00:35:05,125 --> 00:35:06,500
I am absolutely hooked
892
00:35:06,625 --> 00:35:08,000
on this kind of
investigation now.
893
00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:10,916
I see why you
just can't let it go.
894
00:35:11,041 --> 00:35:12,833
We've got some
really interesting stuff
895
00:35:12,958 --> 00:35:14,500
to show you, and
we're excited to hear
896
00:35:14,625 --> 00:35:17,208
what you think
about what we found.
897
00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:19,092
So, I think what we're
gonna start with here,
898
00:35:19,125 --> 00:35:21,000
what Andy has cued
up, is where Bob
899
00:35:21,083 --> 00:35:22,666
experienced the
U.F.O. going overhead
900
00:35:22,791 --> 00:35:25,750
of the ridge and then
disappearing behind it.
901
00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,375
Because we were in an area
of a suspected U.F.O. sighting,
902
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,583
we also deployed our
UFODAP for the first time.
903
00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:32,309
- Oh, good.
- And here's what they captured
904
00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:34,458
during the same time
as our experiment.
905
00:35:34,541 --> 00:35:37,000
So, this is the UFODAP
locking into something strange.
906
00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:39,166
You can see the flashing.
907
00:35:39,291 --> 00:35:41,208
Whatever it is,
it's movin' fast.
908
00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:42,875
Now, what caught us immediately
909
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,708
is that there were plenty
of aircraft in the air flying,
910
00:35:45,833 --> 00:35:47,125
but they didn't look like this.
911
00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:48,601
They have a specific
pulsating flash,
912
00:35:48,625 --> 00:35:50,833
they have red lights
and green lights on them.
913
00:35:50,958 --> 00:35:52,375
Let me show you
what an airplane...
914
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,351
This is our control
video for what it looks like
915
00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:56,291
when the UFODAP
captures an airplane.
916
00:35:56,416 --> 00:35:58,041
You can see that
steady flashing light.
917
00:35:58,208 --> 00:35:59,750
- Sure.
- Once it passes through,
918
00:35:59,875 --> 00:36:01,958
- it just ignores it.
- But here, the UFODAP
919
00:36:02,041 --> 00:36:03,518
was catching something
that did not look
920
00:36:03,541 --> 00:36:05,000
like your traditional aircraft,
921
00:36:05,083 --> 00:36:06,500
especially here
where it zoomed in
922
00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:08,416
and actually identified
what looked like
923
00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:11,000
two sources of light
in a tumbling object.
924
00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:12,708
It's very interesting.
925
00:36:12,833 --> 00:36:14,500
Do you believe that
the U.F.O. activity
926
00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:17,000
was triggered by some
of your experiments
927
00:36:17,083 --> 00:36:18,666
or your activity in the area?
928
00:36:18,791 --> 00:36:21,000
What we know is that they
happened at the same time.
929
00:36:21,083 --> 00:36:22,541
They correlated. We don't know
930
00:36:22,666 --> 00:36:24,208
about the connections
between them.
931
00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,132
That's the right word
to use. They correlated.
932
00:36:26,208 --> 00:36:27,708
I can't help but to notice
933
00:36:27,833 --> 00:36:30,875
the distinct difference
between the conventional aircraft
934
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,500
and the U.F.O.
935
00:36:32,625 --> 00:36:34,291
Yeah, it's unmistakable.
936
00:36:34,375 --> 00:36:36,375
So, we also identified
some strange behavior
937
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:38,250
at 1.6 gigahertz
at the same time
938
00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:40,143
we were running our
experiment in the open field.
939
00:36:40,166 --> 00:36:42,291
And what we ended up
being able to do was hear
940
00:36:42,375 --> 00:36:44,375
similar transmission to
what you recorded here
941
00:36:44,541 --> 00:36:46,250
on Skinwalker Ranch
on that 1.6 gigahertz.
942
00:36:46,375 --> 00:36:48,708
I think what we want to
do is get you that data file.
943
00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:51,226
You guys can run it and compare
it to what you're hearing here
944
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:53,125
and see, is it the
same, how it's different.
945
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:55,666
I'm really interested
in your characterization
946
00:36:55,791 --> 00:36:57,333
of that signal as strange.
947
00:36:57,416 --> 00:37:00,041
We'll take a look and
see how strange it is.
948
00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:01,606
I want to add another
dimension here.
949
00:37:01,666 --> 00:37:03,208
I was gonna say
this... There's more.
950
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:04,708
Wait, there's more!
951
00:37:04,833 --> 00:37:06,125
There's more.
952
00:37:06,208 --> 00:37:08,208
So, what I want to share here...
953
00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:10,666
So if you recall, we had
Casey Smith from Qualtech
954
00:37:10,833 --> 00:37:13,333
come out and assist us
with some radiation surveys
955
00:37:13,416 --> 00:37:15,250
and help to keep us all safe.
956
00:37:15,375 --> 00:37:17,434
Now, he also brought out
with him a new piece of tech,
957
00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:19,226
something called a gamma
cam, that was designed
958
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:22,250
to track, in real
time, radiation levels.
959
00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:24,000
So this is an
imaging capability?
960
00:37:24,083 --> 00:37:25,750
- Correct.
- Wow, nice.
961
00:37:25,875 --> 00:37:27,916
- We need that at Homestead too.
- I want that.
962
00:37:28,041 --> 00:37:30,583
Now, here we're actually
touring the Old West town.
963
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:32,208
At first, we got really excited
964
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,166
about all this elevated
radiation energy
965
00:37:34,291 --> 00:37:35,666
that you can see us pointing at.
966
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:37,510
And the thing was, this
happened immediately.
967
00:37:37,625 --> 00:37:39,791
So we thought, "Whoa,
we... we just got here,"
968
00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:42,250
"and we're kicking up
some kind of effect."
969
00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:43,750
Turns out...
970
00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:45,333
Yeah, what he was identifying
971
00:37:45,458 --> 00:37:46,916
was radon that
was being kicked up.
972
00:37:47,041 --> 00:37:49,184
- It makes perfect sense.
- As we were walking through...
973
00:37:49,208 --> 00:37:50,708
Radon pools and
collects in the sand,
974
00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:52,833
and as you stir it
up, then it releases it.
975
00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:55,750
I'll tell you somethin'
it does tell me though:
976
00:37:55,875 --> 00:37:57,750
when you see
radon gas, it suggests
977
00:37:57,875 --> 00:38:00,041
that there are uranium
deposits nearby.
978
00:38:00,166 --> 00:38:02,041
- Oh, okay.
- So, there's likely
979
00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:04,750
uranium deposits
underneath the area there.
980
00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:07,166
So, I find it really
interesting though.
981
00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:09,083
Now, what was
interesting to us also,
982
00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:11,291
Casey spent a good
half of a day with us
983
00:38:11,375 --> 00:38:12,958
recording on the gamma cam.
984
00:38:13,041 --> 00:38:15,750
Now this is a recording
of the same radiation spike
985
00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:19,500
over the ranch house as
the gamma camera's running.
986
00:38:19,625 --> 00:38:21,166
Whoa, did you see it jump?
987
00:38:21,291 --> 00:38:22,625
What?
988
00:38:22,708 --> 00:38:24,000
Hey, stop. Stop it right there.
989
00:38:24,125 --> 00:38:26,250
Yes, sir.
990
00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:30,250
Look at this.
991
00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:32,000
What does that
suggest to you, Travis?
992
00:38:32,083 --> 00:38:33,541
That there was interference.
993
00:38:33,666 --> 00:38:36,458
This is... this is an
interference pattern, right?
994
00:38:36,541 --> 00:38:39,000
In gamma rays. Play through
to where there was a thing here.
995
00:38:39,125 --> 00:38:40,708
- You got it.
- A minute ago, right?
996
00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:42,541
- Yeah.
- Okay.
997
00:38:42,666 --> 00:38:45,625
That is... It's, like,
perfectly rectangular.
998
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:48,958
There's somethin'
out here that's a hole.
999
00:38:49,791 --> 00:38:51,458
- A hole in what?
- I don't know.
1000
00:38:51,541 --> 00:38:55,333
A hole, an aperture of...
A screen, a block of metal
1001
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,291
with a... With a
square hole in it.
1002
00:38:57,375 --> 00:38:58,666
Could it be a solid object?
1003
00:38:58,791 --> 00:39:00,541
It could be a solid object, yes.
1004
00:39:00,666 --> 00:39:04,833
And then, go forward
to the next thing.
1005
00:39:05,958 --> 00:39:07,166
Keep goin'.
1006
00:39:07,291 --> 00:39:08,833
Whoa, whoa, right there.
1007
00:39:10,416 --> 00:39:12,101
So, this looks like
there's somethin' that...
1008
00:39:12,125 --> 00:39:14,083
That the gamma rays
are coming through a hole,
1009
00:39:14,208 --> 00:39:15,541
hitting the ground.
1010
00:39:15,666 --> 00:39:17,458
So, if you take a
laser, and you get
1011
00:39:17,541 --> 00:39:19,541
a little card and cut
a square hole in it
1012
00:39:19,666 --> 00:39:22,500
and you shine the
laser through the holes
1013
00:39:22,625 --> 00:39:26,625
and you look across the room,
you'll see a pattern like that.
1014
00:39:26,708 --> 00:39:28,708
- A diffraction pattern.
- A diffraction pattern.
1015
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,125
This suggests perhaps
these gamma rays
1016
00:39:31,208 --> 00:39:34,333
are coming through a hole
somewhere out here in the sky
1017
00:39:34,458 --> 00:39:37,708
and... and then this is
the diffraction pattern
1018
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:41,333
of them passing around
whatever this is out there.
1019
00:39:41,458 --> 00:39:42,750
- Wow.
- But... but why?
1020
00:39:42,875 --> 00:39:44,166
But why? I have no idea.
1021
00:39:45,541 --> 00:39:46,643
And the... and the location.
1022
00:39:46,666 --> 00:39:48,041
This overhead anomaly
1023
00:39:48,166 --> 00:39:49,500
is right above the ranch house.
1024
00:39:49,583 --> 00:39:51,958
Well, is this a point of entry
1025
00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:53,333
or activity?
1026
00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:55,041
These are all valid questions.
1027
00:39:55,166 --> 00:39:57,916
The fact that you described it
as something almost rectangular,
1028
00:39:58,041 --> 00:40:00,625
I mean, that matches up
exactly with the photograph
1029
00:40:00,708 --> 00:40:02,750
that Linda took and
their descriptions
1030
00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:04,594
of what they called
something like a portal.
1031
00:40:04,625 --> 00:40:06,291
Travis, this has gotta be one
1032
00:40:06,416 --> 00:40:08,500
of the most interesting
radiation surveys
1033
00:40:08,625 --> 00:40:10,750
that I have seen in
connection with this work.
1034
00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:13,083
Never seen... Well, this is
a new piece of equipment.
1035
00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:14,708
But look... look at this, Erik.
1036
00:40:14,833 --> 00:40:16,518
Look at the bar that
tells you the strength...
1037
00:40:16,541 --> 00:40:18,208
The strength of
the peaks of that
1038
00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:22,500
is in the tens of
millisieverts per hour.
1039
00:40:24,041 --> 00:40:25,500
That's dangerous levels.
1040
00:40:25,625 --> 00:40:27,393
That's reminding me of
the experience that you had.
1041
00:40:27,416 --> 00:40:28,708
- Yeah.
- Whoa, whoa,
1042
00:40:28,833 --> 00:40:31,000
so you're saying this
aerial phenomenon,
1043
00:40:31,083 --> 00:40:35,500
this was actually a... a... A
dangerous burst of radiation?
1044
00:40:35,625 --> 00:40:38,083
I'm thinking if you
were standing right there
1045
00:40:38,208 --> 00:40:39,791
where you see those red peaks,
1046
00:40:39,875 --> 00:40:41,666
you could have had
problems like I had.
1047
00:40:41,791 --> 00:40:43,333
What happened at Homestead Two
1048
00:40:43,458 --> 00:40:44,833
really shook me up.
1049
00:40:44,958 --> 00:40:47,625
I noticed weird red marks
on my hand and my head.
1050
00:40:47,708 --> 00:40:49,583
They were radiation burns.
1051
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,250
That could also explain why
it didn't hit everybody else.
1052
00:40:52,375 --> 00:40:54,018
- Look how localized it is.
- Very localized.
1053
00:40:54,041 --> 00:40:55,833
This is unbelievable
how localized that is.
1054
00:40:55,958 --> 00:40:58,666
Well, and hovering,
and it's right above
1055
00:40:58,791 --> 00:41:01,666
a main point of
interest, the old house.
1056
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:04,041
This is literally
giving me chills, guys.
1057
00:41:04,166 --> 00:41:08,000
It's seeing the very
localized gamma ray events
1058
00:41:08,083 --> 00:41:10,208
that you guys
captured on this ranch
1059
00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:13,250
that actually kind of
helps us understand
1060
00:41:13,375 --> 00:41:15,958
the very localized
gamma ray events
1061
00:41:16,041 --> 00:41:18,166
that have happened
here on Skinwalker Ranch,
1062
00:41:18,291 --> 00:41:20,166
and those were localized
gamma ray events
1063
00:41:20,291 --> 00:41:21,541
that we can't explain.
1064
00:41:21,666 --> 00:41:23,291
Looks like you
guys have captured
1065
00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:24,875
that occurring in real time.
1066
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,375
This is what we were
able to collect on this trip.
1067
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:28,625
Our time was limited.
1068
00:41:28,708 --> 00:41:30,375
We went in guns blazing
1069
00:41:30,541 --> 00:41:33,291
as much as we could
looking for answers
1070
00:41:33,375 --> 00:41:35,583
related to the
strangeness of the ranch.
1071
00:41:35,708 --> 00:41:37,416
Well, you said your
time was limited,
1072
00:41:37,541 --> 00:41:39,458
but I'll tell you,
it was well spent.
1073
00:41:39,541 --> 00:41:41,166
There is still
more to that story.
1074
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:43,958
I mean, we still have
further roads to go down.
1075
00:41:44,041 --> 00:41:46,875
It truly does warrant
further investigation.
1076
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,500
Guys, this was very
well-executed on the parts
1077
00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:51,333
of everyone who
participated in this.
1078
00:41:51,458 --> 00:41:52,875
This really sets a high bar
1079
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,666
for everything
that's going to follow.
1080
00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:56,666
Well, guys, thank you
for all your feedback.
1081
00:41:56,791 --> 00:41:58,672
We're excited to hand
off some more data to you,
1082
00:41:58,708 --> 00:42:01,333
and we're excited to get
to work on our next project.
1083
00:42:01,458 --> 00:42:03,166
Yeah, can't wait to
see what you do next.
1084
00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:04,583
- All right.
- Thank you.
1085
00:42:04,708 --> 00:42:06,166
Thank you so much, gentlemen.
1086
00:42:06,291 --> 00:42:07,625
This was an awesome experience.
1087
00:42:07,708 --> 00:42:09,458
- Awesome.
- Good luck, gentlemen.
1088
00:42:09,541 --> 00:42:11,625
- Thank you. We'll talk soon.
- All right.
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