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- [Voiceover] You've seen people do pretty much

everything on a skateboard at this point.

Spin upside down in three circles,

drop off a helicopter into a half-pipe bigger

than anyone ever imagined.

Jumping over the Grand Canyon.

Incredible progression, so what

is there left to do?

Maybe it's just time to come back to the basics.

Sliding down the hill, smooth, graceful,

fast, because when you strip away

all of the tricks, all of the window dressing,

what do you really have?

Maybe you just have a man going really fucking fast,

trying to get a little closer to nirvana for a second,

because in that moment, when the wind

whipping by your ear is your only companion,

and that tiny slat of wood beneath your feet

is your only salvation, that's how you feel,

like you're that much closer to paradise.

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- Originally, Cliff Coleman came down,

he was sliding up in the bay area,

and he came down and showed his technique

to a couple of our employees,

and they went out in the hills and started sliding

and then Stacy Peralta came down and documented it

and ended up making it into the

Bones Brigade video in 1984.

- Here you go. - Right on Chris.

Hey we're gonna go slidin' at four, guy.

- Alright, yeah, see ya.

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- SkateHouseMedia was sort of a project

company that really formed organically

and it's still run not really as

a legitimate business, but it's pretty much

just a bunch of friends that come together to skate

and how the media came into place is

we were collecting a whole bunch of film,

raw runs, pictures, and

there necessarily wasn't a sponsor outlet

to put it out for certain people or

necessarily were to shared or had to be approved

by a sponsor, so we're like well,

let's just create a little blog website

and start putting up some content and sharing it

'cause at the time, the rebirth of downhill

was relatively new, especially with the new social media

platforms that everyone had access to.

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- Freshman year of college, I met my buddy Eric Singer

and he was from the Valley down here in Los Angeles

and we just enjoyed skateboarding together,

went on some camping trips and that's when

we really learned that you could skate down these hills

and mountain roads in the way that people

are doing it now, and we're actually out in

Mammoth, California, the first time

I would say we really did a significant

hill on our skateboards and from there,

it was kind of like, wow, this is

all we wanna do right now.

When we got back, we realized that the hills there

in Santa Barbara were actually perfect

and world class for what we wanted to do.

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- We started skating parking garages and we have

two minutes of continuous motion, so

we start playin' around with other things,

it's like, alright let's slide our feet to the

front of the board, or let's grab a rail

or let's try and put a hand down or let's

play with these other aspects of gravity

and maybe you turn really hard and you can

make these angles within these certain lines

or maybe skid your board out a little bit

to correct for what would otherwise be an impossible line

or we started playing with our equipment and

loosening trucks and experimenting with

different bushing combinations and figuring out

how to make these boards do what we wanted them to do.

That's sort of how we started to realize

that what we were doing in skateboarding

was a little bit unique.

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- Pretty much we had set a lot of people

living in a small little two bedroom apartment

and our whole entire thing was to just

go out and skate and explore hills.

We just rediscovered some downhill

skating techniques that allowed us

to sake a lot of new terrain.

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- So we had this feeling that we were kind of

inventing it as we were going along.

We didn't really have the manual where it's like,

alright we learned this trick, now we

progress to this trick, it's like well,

we wanna do this, but we don't know how

so let's figure out how to make equipment

or develop maneuvers to make us physically do

what we know that we can do, or what we

think we might be able to do.

- And we did a college tour up to Santa Barbara

and met up with Max and Eric, and they--

we'd heard about the hills up there but we

haven't really skated 'em too much

and we went up to the hills with them

and just started doing some runs.

I mean, it was just skating with friends,

and that takes you a whole bunch of new places.

- First met up with Eric Singer

and Max Myer in the early days, and they

kind of brought us into the community.

Eric, at the time, had been ridin' for Arbor and everything

and he was workin' at the Arbor store so he

kinda brought us into the loop and taught us some of

the etiquette about goin' down the hills and stuff.

At the time we were pretty ignorant, thought we

were pedestrians and we had the right of way all the time

and that's just ignorant and just not

the way things can be done.

- Really, what got us goin' out there and learnin'

how to do these things is San Marcos road

and there's a really wonderful set-- a few hairpins

on that road that were really conducive to

teaching us how to control our speed, it was

a safe environment for us to do it in

since we could spot the turns really easily.

So we would just get out there, and practice

as much as we could, we worked on the hairpins,

skated some of the slower sections,

eventually we transitioned into being able to skate

the whole thing and it kinda just

blossomed from there.

- I remember my first time driving it, I saw those hairpins

and I'm like, no way.

It just seems so impossible, I didn't think a car

can make it up it, it was like a roller coaster,

like the banking and the dropping, it's just

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It's like a corkscrew, it seems impossible.

- It was sort of uncharted a little bit, like

it was something that hadn't been totally sold out

and exploited yet and hadn't--

we were just in the beginning that people were

still figuring out how fast they really could go

and how to do these new slides and the technology

was just blooming and the whole thing was

blossoming and I just saw opportunity to

be a part of something that was new,

and I think that really drew me to it a lot

and then, just simply, I love goin' fast and

in downhill, that's what I like to do is go fast.

- Yeah, just all my friends skate now too

and it's just like, if I wanna hang out with my friends,

we're gonna be skatin', that's what I love doin',

never have a bad time out on the hill.

I mean, you definitely fall a few times but

surprisingly the adrenaline rush and the fun

it gives you is worth all the pain that comes,

and it's also awesome just 'cause the more you do it,

the more fun it becomes, the better you get,

the harder you push yourself, the less you fall.

So it's just more happiness, less pain, that ratio

just starts to shift and then you're golden.

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- Way before I was supposed to be on one of our

local gnarlier ends, I show up there,

no helmet, just brand new gloves, all I knew how to do

was spin in circles to slow down, didn't even know

how to pre-drift for corners or anything and

I'm skatin' that open road and these kids

come up to me, which are now my local skate crew,

the Santa Gnarbara crew, you know,

they came straight up to me and just,

where's your helmet, you can't be doing this,

what are you doin', but they were also willing

to teach me the ways and do it properly

to keep me alive.

- Someone wanna spot that, right?

- Well the biggest fear of downhill skateboarding is death.

And there are two very obvious ways that could happen.

Collision with a vehicle

or a rock wall or somethin', you know, you're goin' fast,

you hit a solid object, you can die.

- Who said downhill skateboarding is safe?

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- We know that in the battle between a car versus us,

we're gonna lose every time.

- Mountain roads, they're mountainous

so on one side you've got rock wall,

other side is cliff side.

- Saw some kids mess up and they got laid into

but it was really driving force that safety was important.

- I even get scared driving up the hill if I don't know

my buddies are skateboarding and all of a sudden

a pack of the homies come flyin' through while

I'm just driving with my girlfriend to go up and

watch the sunset or somethin', it is scary.

- Well yeah, the local crew, what's amazing is

you had a small group of guys and how successful

they've become in this sport is amazing.

Tyler Howell, now he was one of the first

Santa Barbara born and raised kids to become

a pro skater, pro downhill skateboarder.

I mean, he's got the big sponsors and he gets to

travel the world now, from ridin' a

downhill skateboard, it's amazing.

- I've definitely given myself a beating over skateboarding

but I'll always come out--

like I learned when I was 10 years-old,

pain is temporary, glory is forever.

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- Coming out to Santa Barbara, the first time

I ever skated any of the hills, I was just blown away.

We didn't have anything like that in Texas.

You got miles of downhill with corners

like I've never seen or dreamt of before.

- People take vacations, they take time off from their lives

and their jobs specifically to come skate Santa Barbara

to skate Los Angeles and Malibu because

these are the places that have been presented

to them as the holy grail of what is out there to ride.

- Yeah, our roads here are really special.

We have a lot of fast, technical downhill roads.

- Then you come out here and you have

corners that are just dumping grades

and you really have to be careful on the runs,

and you really have to know what you're doing,

staying in your lane and whatnot.

It's not a jungle gym here, it's serious business.

- So we always knew that it's probably not legal

to go down these roads at 50 miles an hour

and practice our sport on 'em.

- So there's always been a little bit of tension

between the skateboarders and just the

general public here in Santa Barbara.

Not everybody really is aware of what we do,

a lot of 'em are really surprised when they see us.

They've never seen anything like it before.

- So yeah, we just realized that with increased presence

on the hill, there were gonna be increased repercussions

so we just wanted to limit that and mitigate

our interactions as much as possible.

- We had this unofficial relationship with the CHP

or all the sheriffs or all the law enforcement

on these roads where

we were respectful, they were respectful,

they would come out for a call, they'd ask us

to leave and we'd go and that was that.

Skate to get busted another day.

- A lot of 'em will just think, there's some

nuts guys just goin' down a hill on a skateboard,

they're gonna get themselves killed.

They don't think that we're in control

or know what we're doing.

We get low to the ground and throw our boards

sideways and they thing we're just winging it

on a prayer or somethin', they don't realize

we practiced it for years and years.

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- Then this one guy from L.A. came and he was

insistent that everyone's getting tickets, so I

told him, all right man, you wanna write me a ticket,

that's fine, I'll see you in court.

So, I saw him in court a little bit later

and the judge ruled in my favor.

Which was cool.

- To have a core group of guys skateboarding these roads

every single day, as much as possible,

I mean we were getting the cops called

multiple times every time.

People, their initial reaction to seeing us

go down the road is that we're tryin' to kill ourselves,

that we are out of control, that it is a unsure thing,

that we're probably gonna die at some point.

I think that most people are calling the cops

because they think they're saving our lives.

If they don't already understand how fragile

their bodies are, and I've lost a lot of skin

on hills as a kid on skateboards.

If you already don't understand that, come with us

for a couple ride-alongs and see the tragedy we see.

Bodies vs. vehicles, it's not a good combination.

Bodies vs. asphalt, it never works out well.

- So we're out on the hill, we're all goin' really fast

and we come into a right-hand corner

we now call Danger Right,

and it's a corner that's really weirdly set up.

You can't see the exit of it and you can't see

the entrance if you're oncoming,

and coming into it, it's controlled,

staying in my lane and everything, and

right as I'm at the critical point to where I need to

throw my board sideways and shed speed

to make it through the corner,

I just see a car cutting the lane

fully in my lane, and all I remember is

seeing the car, throwing my board sideways,

trying to get to the right side of the road

and thinking I'm going under the hood of this car right now.

Ended up knocking both my front teeth out,

gettin' rattled up pretty good.

- We've existed in a legal grey area for a long time

and instead of taking that up as

a starting point for establishing how we can be

protected by law and considered by law,

it's disregarded completely and

they went straight for the ban.

It's a bummer but it's kind of what skateboarding--

the hand that skateboarding has always been dealt,

and what skateboarders have always had to deal with.

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- An all-out ban here in San Bar,

it was kind of a shock, I mean

it's not gonna stop me from skating down the hills.

Maybe it'll stop young people from starting

downhill skateboarding, which is unfortunate,

but it doesn't really make sense.

- Well my initial reaction is, as a public official,

is first thing that's most important to me is public safety

and so when I saw the CHP was recommending this

and our sheriff's department also was

in favor of banning it, the first thing that came

to my mind was okay, this is something

we need to do to protect people.

- Our next item before you this afternoon

presents a proposed ordinance for your consideration

to address a need and the request

of the California Highway Patrol

for more enforcement tools to deal with

the increasing popularity of downhill skateboarding

on some of our mountainous roads

in the unincorporated county.

- And I never thought I would downhill skateboard.

I honestly never thought I would.

I thought, those guys are crazy, they're just--

they're going so fast downhill,

it's so scary, you know?

- That's a huge bond to build there between us for sure,

is those near-death moments that we have

where we look at each other and we go,

wow dude, we almost died there.

I mean I've had times where I've felt that connection

with someone after a run and I feel a lot closer

to them because of what we just went through.

- Yeah, Patrick Welsh, he was the main

kid who'd teach me pretty much

everything that I know about downhill skateboarding

and I learned a lot from him,

and he's a kid, he's younger than me but he's

so enthusiastic about skateboarding

and the whole skate scene.

- I keep skating not as much for the sport itself

but for all the people I've met skating.

I'm lucky enough to be supported by companies

and go around the world traveling,

and it's a really unique opportunity for me

as such a young kid, being able to do that.

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- I told Pat, I said hey, I know

you have finals this week, but would you

be interested in going for a quick skate run?

And Pat can never say no to a skate sesh.

- [Voiceover] So going up there that day,

how did you feel about her skating down?

- Going up that day, I actually tried to get her to skate

a different place in the Riviera but

she was driving, I can't drive so

she kinda just went up to Gibraltar.

- We had fun, we had lots of fun,

I was having great fun and

yeah, Patrick was going so fast.

He was going like 50 miles an hour.

- Safety with her was an issue because she doesn't

know some of the basic things and

kind of all over the place with lanes.

- How do you mean, you don't remember the run

because--

- Because of what happened, I don't remember anything

that happened from that accident.

My memory from that day ends where

I take off from my second run.

Yeah, Pat was there, but whatever

he saw or whatever was the aftermath of

me being hit, I think he

doesn't wanna tell me, he doesn't wanna

he doesn't wanna talk about it, which is okay.

He's probably looking out for me in that respect.

- So after the accident, went into the hospital

and Terra had a slight brain bleed

and some fractures

in her skull, plus I think she

blew a eardrum and it was

pretty shocking seeing that firsthand.

- I remember seein' her in the hospital and

she's all bruised up, I saw her helmet.

She was wearing a full face helmet with the chin guard.

The chin guard was busted off, it looked like

the tire really went over her head.

She's really lucky to be alive.

- One of my friends said he had asked

the highway patrol that had responded

when he saw 'em at the hospital and they said that

it didn't look good for me, the outlook did not look good

but I toughed through it somehow.

I think a lot of my friends were sending me their love

and I was on a lot of people's minds and

they were sending me good thoughts, so

I powered through it and somehow I made it.

- So I wasn't surprised when I learned that

they were putting in legislation to ban us

on the roads that we were skating most.

When it came up, it was our chance to prove them wrong

and show them that we're not just skateboard hooligans.

it's a way of life, it's a culture, it's a sport.

It's our jobs, it's everything to us.

- Santa Barbara has a very long and rich history

with skateboarding here in Santa Barbara

and it continues to contribute millions of dollars

of revenue to the local economy.

- We can effectively break, slow down, stop

and corner efficiently as any biker.

The only time a CHP officer actually observed us,

he followed us down San Marcus road

on his motorcycle while we skated.

At the bottom, he said that we were in no way

obstructing traffic,breaking traffic laws,

or seemed out of control.

He told us to be safe and that we could keep skating.

I think if more people would give us a chance

like that, this stigma wouldn't exist.

- Very rarely do I see a story that's

as compelling as the ones that the skaters that were

there at the hearing brought to the hearing.

- We may have different methods of breaking

and slowing down, controlling ourselves as we go down

but we can keep the exact same pace

and control as a bicyclist.

Instead of being reactionary and instituting a ban,

this discussion should serve as a starting point

to keep the topics of safe use of bikes and skateboards

on roadways as a public topic.

- That was pretty much just a deal done behind closed doors.

I believe Janet Wolf said something along the lines of

the CHP help us out with so many things and they

never ask for anything so we really can't say no to them,

which doesn't really make sense.

I thought they're kinda there to uphold the will

of the public, not other government agencies,

but I don't know, I guess that serves

their best political interests.

- Instead of posting signs that say no skateboarding,

post signs that say caution, skateboarders

are present, please share the road.

- Yeah, I'm really wrestling with this because

I understand that there's whole business implications here

with-- it's great to see a lot of you young guys

out there getting involved in business

and creating something out of really nothing.

It's kinda cool, but

you also have to weigh the protecting

the taxpayers' wallet if one of you gets hit

that now we're liable, so,

I will hear what my colleagues have to say.

- I like to go into every meeting with an open mind

but generally you review the materials and you

kind of feel where you're gonna be at,

and then I kinda listen to the testimony at that point

and that's actually what changed my mind.

- Safety, most of the folks talked about safety.

I saw a skateboard I probably couldn't afford

but I think some of these folks that are

going down this hill don't have all the special equipment,

don't have the special boards and so forth.

The roads are way too narrow.

- In the end, the liability wasn't on our side.

- Supervisor Farr?

- Thank you, Madam Chair.

I just wanna say that they have been very polite

and respectful and I appreciate that, but

they have also been inconsistent as a group.

I know that a number of the comments we received

at the hearing and then also since then, have

talked about don't ban it, put up more signs,

stripe the road, make everybody stay in their lane

and yet, if you go online, it's easy to find their

Youtube videos advertising these roads,

showing them weaving back and forth across the roads.

- All right, any further discussion?

Very good, we'll have a roll call vote on A32.

- Mr. Adams? - Aye.

- Mr. Ravanino? - No.

- Mr. Carbahol? - Aye.

- Miss Farr? - Aye.

- Miss Wolf. - Aye.

- Passes four to one.

- Okay, thank you.

- Like I said, a lot of us are always gonna go

down the safest route, that's just the way

government works, we wanna protect ourselves

and insulate ourselves so I understand why.

- Especially young adults, they wanna know why.

They want the why question answered and

the why is your life depends on us to

put these laws in place to protect you.

The motoring pubic in most of these roadways,

they're not expecting a skateboarder to be

coming down at maybe 30 miles per hour

around a corner, and while there are some

skateboarders who could safely negotiate those corners

and come to a stop in a reasonable amount of time,

we have to account for every level of skateboarder.

- Where I grew up in Vancouver, you

could skate down the hill.

Sure, somebody would be pissed but

it's really not their place and they kinda know it,

so they just let you go and do your own thing.

So yeah, it was a big change, but of course

just a big pleasure to be part of a small community

again and see it growing.

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- Santa Gnarbara event's really special.

It's really cool seeing all these people come

support our local crew at our hills

and it's really great seeing something that won't

get shut down that we can just have fun.

- [Voiceover] You wanna give a little recap of the day?

- I would love to give a recap of the day.

- [Voiceover] Looks like you got a little bit of

a carnage all over yourself too.

- The first Santa Gnarbara outlaw race,

people were flyin' off the cliff and people weren't

wearing the proper equipment or not knowing

what they should wear.

- What I learned today.

- [Voiceover] Always ride McGeown trucks.

- Always ride McGeown trucks.

Makes you stable as hell.

Don't enjoy the ride.

- [Voiceover] Don't have fun.

- Don't have fun, but stay safe.

- And then you come to now the races are legitimate.

- Tom was very instrumental in going through all the

paperwork and making sure everything was permitted.

- It was just a really well put together event,

everybody had a great time, and it showed a lot of

the people who maybe hadn't visited Santa Barbara

that there's a real special place here for skating.

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- It's hectic so far, oh my God I can't even

get a second to help the boys out,

but it's going good, everything's coming together.

We got the hay here, the port-a-potty man's come through,

missing one more block of hay.

Just runnin' around as fast as I can right now.

- [Voiceover] He's takin' care of business, that's for sure.

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- So we're trying to minimize the space between

the hay bails while maximizing the amount of

space covered by hay bails.

So you kinda gotta think about the angle

the skaters are gonna be comin' in at

and making sure there's no gaps between everything.

- Dave is a pro at this.

- I guess, it ain't my first rodeo now.

(people talking and laughing)

- Cold beers sound really good right now.

It's all I can think about.

- [Voiceover] Beer? - Going back to the camp

and drinking beer.

- [Voiceover] So where are you guys from?

- From L.A., Venice area,

just kinda vacationing out here,

enjoying the mountains, it's the best.

- Yeah, the way we have it set up, we kinda

have it almost like a domino, so if they

hit one bail, they're gonna hit a couple.

Ideally, they'll hit one and that'll slow 'em down

and they'll just keep hitting a couple.

It'll let 'em slow down enough to not be

too dangerous but I mean, if you hit it wrong,

you could go sending with it.

- Ready for a good time.

- The people in it are so special and it's probably

the one thing that has kept me in it the longest

is that the people I've met through it,

and we share that special bond that

we can't all really explain but we know it's there.

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- Let's make it happen, everyone get ready.

Stage up and let's take our first run of the day.

(crowd cheering)

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It's all started right now, long ass weekend begins.

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- Wow, it's lookin' good, I mean it looks like

we got about maybe 200 people

spread out throughout the hill.

- Our chief officers informed us to come on out

and just assist in any way that we can today

so we're lookin' forward to seeing how it all goes down.

Hopefully everybody can do it safely and have fun.

- Well the first time I saw it was from a GoPro,

Thomas going down hills with GoPros, those were

the first time I saw the films and I really

didn't wanna ever see it again.

I said I don't wanna see you doin' this sport,

I don't like it.

One year he had three different broken bones,

I just didn't support it until I got involved

and then I see that it is a sport,

and it's a sport that people have a lot of passion for

and love, and they're very good at it,

and I now have a lot more respect.

I don't just see danger.

Yes, it's dangerous.

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- It's fast, it's really fast.

I'm gonna have to tighten my trucks a little bit.

I'd say two or three times.

Oh this isn't the worst.

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(scraping)

- [Voiceover] Ladies, what do we see here?

- We see a nice little first degree sidewalk burn.

It's a first degree because I don't see

any white meat. - [Voiceover] Nice.

It's a good old first degree one, yeah.

Your first run?

- Yeah, it was last run.

This run, it was great, this run.

- Ready to get back on the hill.

My butt is--

[Voiceover] Goin' bigger, better, badder right?

- Exactly, my butt feels like it's got new skin on it.

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- It's pretty nice. - It's gnarly.

- Sick course, way better than last year, way better.

- We drove down from southern Oregon

to San Francisco and then drove down here

the rest of the way with a buddy of ours in his truck,

so altogether nine and a half hours of driving

or something, but totally worth it.

- Good trip.

- My friend Zoe actually introduced me to

downhill skating and I've been skating

for about five months in general.

I'm pretty stoked but a little bit nervous.

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- [Voiceover] The guys bomb in that last corner,

slidin' out and hittin' people and knockin'--

everybody flies on top of the hay bales.

It's a dangerous situation.

- You can catch the bus--

(people talking)

- It's kinda rough today, honestly I'm not

feeling very good right now.

That last transmission is really just not beuno,

that's not what I want happening at all.

I'm just kinda thinking about how we can fix it down there.

This is the problem when you need to have

a new course and a lot of guys and

you're tryin' to figure out how to run buses

and fit 120 people at the bottom and pick 'em up

and do everything efficiently, it's really hard.

It's really hard.

- I think it's great, it's kinda scary.

(woman laughing)

- [Voiceover] You got the whole family here?

- Yes, I'm so excited to be here and watch

but I've never seen them actually race.

- First time. - First time, but it's got--

- Fingers crossed. - Fingers crossed

there's no major injuries.

- So I got bumped by Jasper.

He shoved me off the road.

And yeah, that's about it.

- [Voiceover] Where's the road rash?

- I got it on my arm, hip,

stomach, yeah.

- I need you guys on the line.

Moe, Rica, Jasper and Louie.

- Pretty good man. - Are you from fuckin' Sweden?

- Yeah man.

- Damn dude, you're really out here.

- I'm probably the oldest guy out here.

- [Voiceover] What age?

- 44.

- [Voiceover] Tell me again when you started downhill--

- 10 years ago, five years downhill.

So back in 2010, I started downhilling.

- [Voiceover] Your body takes it just fine huh?

- I can handle it, I'm okay.

I was actually broken off 10 months ago.

Broken femur three places, broken shoulder

but Kevin's my inspiration so I'm here.

All right, let's do this.

(exciting rock music)

(people cheering)

- Third place, where's my third place (mumbles)?

Patrick Welsh, Santa Barbara local.

Santa Barbara local!

(cheering and applause)

Let's hear it for the amateur class.

First place in the pro division,

where is Alex Charleston?

(cheering and applause)

- The ban of downhill skateboarding in Santa Barbara

really reminds me of the ban of downhill skateboarding

in Malibu that happened in 2006, and really

it's not the entire community of Malibu

or Santa Barbara coming together because of

this crazy problem of skateboarders in the street.

It's generally one or two residents that

are up on city council and they're sick and tired

of skateboarders going past their house.

They like riding bicycles instead of skateboards

and so they wanna alleviate themself

of what this issue is.

- We've all pretty much dedicated a big part

of our lives to this, you can tell us that we

can't go skateboard, you can--

I don't care what penalties, you can tell me

you're gonna throw me in jail if I go skateboard,

I'm gonna go skateboard.

- Downhill skateboarding for me has done--

it's probably been the most powerful driving force

that I've had in my life.

- Slowly but surely, it's comin' back to me and

I can actually do some toe side slides.

I practiced some the other day and

they worked out for me, so I'm pretty happy.

Maybe one day I will come back to going fast.

- The people who I bomb hills with, I trust

my life with them, it's like, I don't know,

it's just when you have that relationship,

it's just hard to walk away from.

- Yeah that's where I've had a lot of the best

feelings in downhill skateboarding is just

kinda hangin' out with friends in secluded areas

where you just kinda feel like you're the

king of the world, you're overlooking at

a huge empty valley and it's like this is mine.

(laughing)

- Skateboarding has always

given me a glorious feeling, and I never cared about

that pain that I had to pay at the time,

and it will always be that way.

I'm sure I'll tone it down some day,

but I'm gonna skate forever.

- Skateboarding is supposed to be illegal

in my eyes, it wouldn't be fun if

we weren't out there breakin' the rules.

That's what it's supposed to be, it's supposed to be

against the grain, it's supposed to be counterculture,

it's supposed to be different.

If it's not pissin' people off, it's not really

all that fun, and you know we don't go out there

to piss people off, we're respectful.

We're probably the most respectful people on the hill

but in the end, I think some of us

really enjoy being outlaws.

(dramatic music)

("Apocalypse Cow" by SeepeopleS)

- [Voiceover] Put it in your mouth.

(laughter)

- Oh shit, poor little guy.

Life's rough for a mouse.