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I don't know what's worse being the sort
of madman who specializes in voiding
your customers warranties or enabling
his Reckless Behavior the way that
noctua has done here this small plastic
spacer kit for their iconic Brown
coolers is not only 100 trust me bro
guaranteed to get your RMA rejected by
AMD but it also increases the chance
that something will go wrong I mean who
in their right mind would take a cooler
this size and bolt it directly to the
fragile dies that live under amd's
protective heat spreader
20 20 degrees 20 degrees look
that's impossible
impossible to explain until I finish
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if it was anyone else I'm not even sure
if I would believe this but after noctua
explained it the whole thing kind of
makes sense and it starts with the
creatively named noctua NM amv15 offset
am5 mounting bars you see the thing is
when AMD designed their am5 CPUs they
put the i o die in the middle and they
put the actual compute dies the ccds
down at the bottom of the IHS this puts
the hot spots of ryzen 7000 CPUs in a
very unconventional place and you can
see in noctua's illustration here how
this hurts the performance of a typical
cooler by having the hot spot down here
you can see we are over utilizing the
heat pipes on this side and under
utilizing the ones over here
that's where the offset bar comes into
play watch this by simply Shifting the
mounting mechanism seven millimeters
downward knock to assess they can drop
the temperature on your CPU by up to
three degrees this is because of two
effects first it concentrates the
pressure over those heat generating dies
improving thermal transfer and second it
means more effective heat distribution
throughout the base of the cooler so
you're making better use of all of your
heat pipes rather than over saturating
some and under utilizing others these
results are really impressive and
reinforce what we found in water cooling
Through the Ages where we saw that from
generation to generation the performance
improvements were less about actually
just building a better water block and
more about tuning the water block better
for modern processors so while ryzen
3000 and 5000 can benefit from this
offset Mount it's not to the same degree
pun intended as ryzen 7000 because those
ones have much thinner ihs's we'll be
talking about that in a second in
typical noctua fashion it'll be
available affordably for all their
desktop class coolers going back to
2005. but Linus you might say up to
three degrees is not almost 20 degrees
what's the deal with the rest of that
that is where this comes in these small
plastic spacers allow noctua coolers to
be mounted to d-litted CPUs and they're
the result of a collaboration with their
Bauer I mean it looks like the simplest
thing in the world a little piece of
plastic how could that drop you 15
degrees except
the devil's in the details look how
thick this is ah so I haven't played
around with delighted ryzen 7000 yet but
it seems that to maintain cooler
compatibility with the lower profile LGA
socket compared to their last generation
pin CPUs AMD made the IHS much thicker
which is contributing to some of the
thermal challenges that users are seeing
the solution
well if you hate having a warranty you
can do this
step one get your hands on a d-litted
ryzen 7000 series processor given they
developed the products collaboratively
noctua recommends the one from Roman
sold under the thermal Grizzly brand
they've been doing a lot of that collab
sort of stuff lately step two install a
direct die mounting frame like this one
again from thermal Grizzly this isn't
strictly necessary but it dramatically
reduces the risk of accidentally
cracking one of these delicate dies as
you're tightening down your cooler I
wouldn't even consider mounting a cooler
direct eye these days without one of
these frames next you're going to need
some liquid metal thermal compound okay
you don't actually need it but the issue
is that the benefit of this modification
with traditional thermal paste is very
low only about two to four degrees
this is because even though amd's IHS is
too thick at least it's soldered so it's
pretty fast at moving heat from the
hottest parts of the dyes I mean it's
right in the name right it's a heat
spreader so if we use a traditional
thermal compound right on these dies it
can be somewhat overwhelmed by the
concentration of these hot spots heat
flux density is the term that noctua
used but for all but the most technical
of our viewers that's unlikely to mean
anything so finally you'll need knock to
his offset Mount that I showed you guys
before okay you don't need it but if
you're going to avoid your warranty why
settle for 10 to 17 degrees of
improvement when you can have anywhere
from 12 to 19. that is the cumulative
benefit of all of these little changes
though now that your warranty is void
there are a couple of more things to
consider die cracking that's less of a
concern thanks to the contact frame but
liquid metal on any one of these little
surface mount components would be a big
problem so I would suggest some nail
polish or conformal coating or some
protective covering for the ones that
aren't already covered and here's the
coolest part noctua isn't even forcing
you to buy this spacer if you get your
direct eye contact frame and all this
stuff from other companies they will
make literally nothing providing you the
STL files of these spacers on
printables.com but they're doing it
anyway then all you need to do is Source
slightly longer screws and they're going
to have the information about which
screws you'll need on the printables
page again this works with the vast
majority of Knoxville coolers since 2005
and is launching at the end of July but
that doesn't mean that all cooling
Innovation is down to changing the
position and avoiding your CPU warranty
meet the next gen nhd15 it's got a
whopping eight heat pipes now compared
to six on the original and that's just
the beginning the heat pipes are
optimized for better performance you
know optimizing wall thickness Wick
structure all that kind of stuff but the
big one is this fan it's finally here
after what is this eight long years of
product development their new 140
millimeter fan and thanks to its
incredible performance giving it up to
three degrees better performance
compared to their old one on a radiator
they were able to increase the surface
area of the fin stack here by 20 meaning
that this should be good for anywhere in
the neighborhood of about three to four
degrees of improvement over the already
legendary NHD 15. now of course that's
on a 300 watt heat load so you better be
running an Intel CPU got him which is
why noctua actually doesn't recommend
buying this if you have a 65 watt CPU
what they would recommend is that I do
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