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[reporter]
The trial of the third person
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with ties to the Mineola
Swingers Club
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came to a stunning halt
in Smith County, Monday,
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when foster parent
John Cantrell,
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a man awarded custody
of three young siblings,
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who allegedly performed
at the swingers club,
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was arrested in Wood County.
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{\an8}Living in the Cantrell's house
was like a torture chamber.
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I never felt safe.
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And so when I'm starting
to see this stuff come on TV
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about the swingers club,
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and Margie Cantrell bringing
these kids involved with it,
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how could I do nothing
and just sit there
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when I knew exactly what
those kids were going through?
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[Margie] There's no words.
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{\an8}There's really no words
to describe it.
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It wasn't true,
and I knew that.
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[tearfully] He never
ever did anything.
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[Jenna] My early childhood
in California,
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my biological mom
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was doing drugs
and drinking a lot
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and when CPS found us
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we were malnutritioned
and in soiled diapers.
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Then we went
through foster care
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and this lady said,
"Well, I'll take all of them."
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And that was Margie Cantrell.
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I thought, "Yes,
this sweet lady
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and this guy that
looks like Santa Claus
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wants to be our parents."
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But right after I got adopted,
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the abuse with both
of them started.
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When I was 7, that's when
John Cantrell started being
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very physically sexual
with me.
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Touching, licking, kissing,
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trying to teach us how
to French kiss.
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John Cantrell would tell me,
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"Well if you tell anybody,
you're just going to go back
to foster care."
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Everything with Margie
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went very hatefully abusive,
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putting her hands
around my neck
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and just kind
of strangling me
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and telling me how much
she hates me and she
wishes I would die.
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I was depressed.
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I started drinking when
I was about 9, 10 years old.
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Basically I was trying
to self-medicate.
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[Margie] When we
adopted Jenna, back in 1985,
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she had a lot
of problems. A lot.
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A low, low mentality.
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There was a time when
she decided
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to microwave our cat.
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And somebody ran in
and got the cat out.
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The cat did live,
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but it was horrifying.
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[Jenna] In 2004,
we moved to Texas.
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I was 24 at this time.
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There's a couple of reasons
I had stayed with them
for that long.
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My confidence
was so low
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that I really felt like
I couldn't live on my own.
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I had no ID,
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I didn't have
my birth certificate,
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I didn't have my
social security card,
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I had nothing.
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Margie, she would
tell me stuff, like,
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"Well, nobody's going
to want you anyways."
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She would make you feel
like you really
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couldn't do anything
without her.
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[Margie] Shortly after
we moved to Texas,
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Jenna met a man
down the block, David,
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and they got together.
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And they went on
and got married.
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[Jenna] Margie did not think
anything would come out
of this relationship.
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But It's real.
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It's a real love that...
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Never had that, you know,
growing up.
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So I still get all
the butterflies
and everything.
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[David] Me and the Cantrells
didn't get along.
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{\an8}I could definitely tell
something was shady
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between Jenna and John.
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Just the way they, you know,
went about carrying themselves
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kind of seemed
kind of like hidden.
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[reporter] The children were
allegedly forced to dance
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and perform sexual acts
with each other.
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[David] And then when I heard
their story on the news
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about what had happened
with these kids,
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my wife told me what had
happened to her,
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you know, in detail.
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[Jenna] I was hoping that
when I found my husband,
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I would never tell him
the abuse I went through
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because John and Margie
both told me
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that if I ever said anything,
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my spouse or my boyfriend
would leave me.
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When I told him
I started crying,
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and he goes, "No no,
come here, come here,
come here."
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And he rocked me
in the chair.
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And he just held me.
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[David] I love my wife
very much.
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I'm an emotional guy.
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So, when I heard those kind
of things, it bothered me.
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It bothered me a lot.
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I suggested that she tell
the truth to the authorities.
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So she did.
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I can say that as far as
like accusations go
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about my mom and dad,
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I knew it wasn't true.
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It was straight up lies.
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[Jacob] I hold a lot
of anger towards Jenna.
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When you are willing
to lie about somebody
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and potentially
put them in prison,
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I have no room
in my life for you.
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[Margie] When John
was arrested, that hurt,
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but I wasn't going
to tell Jenna,
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"You can't be part of this
family. You can't come home."
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There's something
that is in me that just
doesn't give up on them.
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And then one night,
the kids and I went to Walmart
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and Jenna and David
were there.
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And I said, "Jenna,
come here."
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And he's like, "No."
And she's like, "I can't."
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And I'm like,
"Jenna, come here."
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And she's like, "I can't."
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And then Shelby
said to me,
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"That's the tattooed man
that was at the club.
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He's the one that
was molesting me
at that club."
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[Jenna] Next morning
I get these subpoenas
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and they're saying, well,
these kids are saying
David's name.
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And they're saying that
he's involved with all this.
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[David] I go in
with this police officer.
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He thought I was affiliated
with this swinger's club.
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And they asked me
to take my clothes
down to my underwear
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and stand with my arms out.
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The children had said that
the DJ at the club
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had a tattoo of a dragon
on his back.
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I don't have any tattoos
on my back
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[Margie] Now whether he
was ever at the swinger's club
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to just be a swinger
or to look at the place
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or do anything, that's not
for me to decide.
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No. No. That's not David.
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David's never been like that.
It's completely lies.
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Margie's getting back at me
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because I came out
about her and John.
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Eventually, the police
informed me that
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I was no longer needed
in the trial.
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I knew the capabilities
of this woman.
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I didn't think
it would go that far.
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She'd have been happy
if I'd have went to prison.
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I didn't know nothing
about the swinger's club.
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[Margie] When John
went to court
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I sold everything we owned
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so I could hire an attorney
for my husband.
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When we went
into the courtroom
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the judge heard all
of their evidence that
they said they had
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and he said, "No,
I'm not taking this at all."
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And the judge said,
"Mr. Cantrell, go home."
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There was no evidence
that was even credible,
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so they dropped it.
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And that was the end of it.
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They threw it out
because it was false,
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it wasn't what happened.
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Anybody can accuse
anybody of anything,
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it doesn't mean
that it's true.
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And unless you have
actual proof,
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maybe just don't try
to ruin somebody's life
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just because you
don't like them.
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If you don't like them,
just keep it moving. Move on.
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Her biological children
never got abused,
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because they were
the real kids.
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The ones that would get
abused a lot of the times
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were her foster kids.
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And I believe in her mind
she was thinking,
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"Nobody wants them."
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She's the only way.
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She's the only hope
that you have in life.
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You do what she says
and you'll be okay.
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If you don't, there's gonna
be hell to pay.
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[Margie]
It was a made-up story.
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And I think that
that's disgusting.
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[Michael] In the community,
some people thought
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it was just unfair mudslinging
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against Margie's husband,
kicking against Margie.
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{\an8}But it just seemed
such a weird coincidence,
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{\an8}that her husband was being
accused of the same thing
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that her foster kids were
accusing other people
of doing.
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[Mike] Patrick Kelly's
nickname was Booger Red.
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And it was Booger Red,
who was the one who
had the trailer
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where apparently the sex
kindergarten had taken place.
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[Mike] And then they'd
come up to Mineola
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and they'd dance on stage
for money.
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[Mike] Patrick Kelly's trial
was actually going
to be a little bit different.
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For one thing, Patrick Kelly's
mother cashed in her 401(k)
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to get him an actual lawyer.
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Patrick Kelly had
Thad Davidson,
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who was a bulldog
of a defense lawyer,
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former Marine, very dramatic,
and very smart guy.
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{\an8}[Thad] When I first took on
the case, I went to the jail
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and met with Patrick Kelly.
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...and organized crime.
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[Patrick] I didn't even know
there was a swingers club
in Mineola.
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[Thad] I thought
he was believable.
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He had no prior history of any
significance whatsoever.
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We looked for fingerprints...
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DNA...
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Blood...
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Other witnesses...
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Forensic investigation...
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None of which existed.
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[Melinda] When Thad came
to me and asked for the help,
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{\an8}I really thought that
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{\an8}he was blowing this
out of proportion.
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But then I start looking
through the evidence.
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That's when I really began
to realize that
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Thad wasn't overly exaggerating.
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I believe he was not guilty
of what these kids
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and the Cantrells were saying
that he did.
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Patrick Kelly, was
a simple man,
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and he lived a simple life.
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The big thing for him would be
after his hard week of work,
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was to go buy a 30 pack
of Natural Light Beer
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and a family size
of chicken legs,
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and have the different friends
and stuff come over,
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and they would barbecue.
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[fire crackling]
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[Patrick] My world's been
turned upside down with
all this going on.
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[Thad] Patrick Kelly,
to be frank,
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is a redneck, uneducated,
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impoverished, living in
a trailer out in the woods.
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And in Smith County,
that makes you a target.
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Soon after I took on the case,
a senior officer of Mineola PD
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shows up at my office
with boxes of information.
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She goes, "There's
all this stuff that,
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we're pretty sure you don't
have and have never heard of.
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Did you know about this?
Did you know about this?"
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She gives us all this stuff
that we've never seen before.
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And I'm sitting there
thinking, "Holy [bleep] ."
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It was long hidden,
exculpatory evidence.
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Exculpatory reports,
exculpatory interviews,
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exculpatory information
from June of 2005,
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when the Mineola PD and
the Wood County DA's office
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looked at the case and said,
"We don't have anything here".
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Anything that tends to show
a defendant is not guilty,
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must be turned over
to the defense.
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And the state is not allowed
to collect the evidence,
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sit on it, hide on it,
lie about it, pretend they
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don't know about it,
which they did.
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[Melinda] We had learned
before, that swingers club
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had already closed down.
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A few of the officers,
were running license plates
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to see who were swingers,
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to see if any of them
were local, just gossiping.
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And so, if we could
get those license plates,
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then we could get in touch
with some of those swingers
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to come forward and
say that if, or if not,
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the defendants were
at the swingers club.
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So we subpoenaed the records.
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Maybe three weeks goes by,
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and then they finally
responded and said,
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as strangely as this is,
they couldn't find anything.
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Eh, there's no other
way to explain that
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other than, they were erased.
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That was suspicious.
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I believe the Texas Rangers
made that decision
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at that time to erase them.
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Because, if they came forward
with all the license plates,
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but none of the
defendant's cars,
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not one car came back to them,
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well that might prove
our client is innocent,
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and they wouldn't
want to give us that.
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And then we learned,
another reason they
would've done this.
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We discovered that officers
in Mineola had spoken with
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the swingers club owners,
Sherry and Russ Adams.
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If those officers
were in there,
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that's not against the law,
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but they would've
had to have said,
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there were no
children in there.
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And I believe by that point,
Ranger Kemp was so involved,
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he didn't want this
case to stop.
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And then we dig deeper and
we find out Ranger Kemp
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interviewed Sherry Adams
in the DA's office,
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there in the courthouse.
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[Sherry] We were cramped
in this little corner office
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and he put them pictures
out on his desk,
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{\an8}and he slammed them.
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{\an8}"I know who...
you know who this is."
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- "I don't."
- "Well, then you know
who this one is."
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"No, I don't."
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"Well, you know
what they've done?"
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"No, I don't. I don't know
who they are."
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He said, "You're a liar.
And I'm gonna put you in jail
with the rest of them.
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You will rot in prison."
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[Thad] I'm sitting there
thinking, oh my God,
this is bad.
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This won't even go to trial.
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There is no case here.
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This is smoke
and mirrors [bleep].
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[Melinda] We wanted
the recording of that
meeting with Sherry Adams.
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But there was no recording.
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It wasn't in a report.
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There was nothing of that.
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And to destroy
any evidence is illegal.
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Kemp testified he wasn't sure
if it had been recorded.
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But then Thad Davidson
found out that
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Kemp had actually
been interviewed,
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by the Attorney
General's office,
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about the whereabouts
of the recording.
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[Melinda] In 26 years,
a Texas Ranger's never
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conducted an investigation
on sexual assault of a child
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or indecency with a child
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or sexual performance
by a child.
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Kemp had no idea
what he was doing.
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Why are you allowing Margie
to sit in on these interviews
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and insist and push
and force these kids
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to say what they said.
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{\an8}[Thad] Kemp did not bother
to check out Cantrell.
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{\an8}Kemp did not bother to go,
let's talk about you,
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let's talk about your background.
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That kind of critical thinking
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that should have
been taking place
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by Kemp, or any law
enforcement agent,
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of Cantrell did not happen.
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[Tamara] Thad Davidson
was relentless,
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he called me
over and over again.
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He kept saying like,
"I'm telling you,
this is a set-up."
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{\an8}And so finally, I sat down
with him and heard him out.
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{\an8}And I, I saw the passion,
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it wasn't just a defense
attorney that wanted to
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convince me that,
his defendant wasn't guilty.
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No, he was trying
to tell me, like,
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you don't understand,
there's layers to this.
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And that was the
first time I think my eyes
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really, really opened,
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to what was taking
place and everything.
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So, by the time we entered
the third trial with,
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Patrick Kelly, Booger Red,
I was ready, finally,
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to kind of get a different
side and understand
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what the truth is
behind all of this.
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[Thad] I believed
we had a good case,
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but the tide was
completely against us
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when the trial started.
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Any time anybody gets
arrested on a first-degree,
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big sex offense crime,
or frankly any
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kind of big crime,
it's all over the news.
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[Tamara] This case is
constantly in the headlines.
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The media and
the newspaper in town,
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knew that people were hungry
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and that they wanted
more, more, more.
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Give us more about this
Mineola sex ring club.
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[Thad] What that means
is that the jury pool,
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of course, knew
about these cases.
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If you know about it, it's
going to affect you in trial.
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[Tamara] Local news
was a really big deal.
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It was whatever was
printed or reported,
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was gospel in many ways.
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And it did feel like it was
very, very dominant,
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and heavy-sided for the DA.
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[reading] Defense attorney
Thad Davidson
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says during Friday's pretrial,
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he will also ask for
a change of venue.
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The reason, potential jurors
in Smith County
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are only seeing one side
of the child sex ring story.
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[Thad] When the trial started,
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we called Margie Cantrell
to the witness stand.
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We knew that John Cantrell
had been indicted out
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in California on
child sex charges.
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The issue is, well, if he's
doing it, is she doing it too?
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Because people are
saying that she is.
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We were interviewing former
foster kids, now adults.
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[Jenna] They were
asking me what happened,
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and I told them the abuse
I went through and I said,
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"I know what she's doing
because she's done this
kind of stuff before."
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She was saying,
"Margie Cantrell beat us.
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Margie Cantrell
told us what to say,
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Margie Cantrell
would punish us
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if we didn't say what
she wanted us to say
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or do what she
wanted us to do."
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These were adults saying that.
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We were ready to destroy her.
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The problem is, Margie, with
the assistance of her attorney
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told her to shut the hell up,
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"You are not going to say a
damn word on the witness stand
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other than 'I take the fifth
amendment',"
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which is what happened.
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[Mike] More than 100 questions
he would ask Margie Cantrell,
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and she had the same
answer for each one.
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She would say "I'm exercising
my Constitutional Right
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to not answer the question,"
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and this went on and on.
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[Margie] People have
said that John and I,
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took our Constitutional Right
because we were guilty.
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But my attorney told us,
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"You're going to
plead the fifth."
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They said they didn't want
to keep muddying it up
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with this John
and Margret thing,
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because he was innocent,
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but he had been
completely slandered,
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smeared, and everything.
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They want to keep it that out
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and they wanted to just
keep it straight on the kids,
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what the jury hears,
the testimony the jury hears,
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and that was that.
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[Thad] The nightmare
didn't end.
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The prosecutor, Murphy, kept
talking about how
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the previous two defendants
had been convicted
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and gotten life sentences.
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00:25:48,723 --> 00:25:51,053
It's unconstitutional.
I objected.
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00:25:51,053 --> 00:25:53,353
Judge Skeen let him do that.
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00:25:53,353 --> 00:25:57,023
This was a [bleep] show agenda
to a one-way destination,
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00:25:57,023 --> 00:25:59,093
which was, "We're
gonna get convictions."
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00:26:00,193 --> 00:26:02,653
[Tamara] I still remember
vividly, Thad Davidson
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was just shot down,
over and over.
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00:26:04,793 --> 00:26:06,553
And that was the first time
I think my eyes,
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00:26:06,553 --> 00:26:09,653
really, really, opened,
to what was taking place.
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00:26:09,653 --> 00:26:11,653
This was the first time
that I thought,
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00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:13,093
"We're failing this person."
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00:26:14,653 --> 00:26:17,553
Not only we as
the media, but...
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these people that we trust,
and these investigators,
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00:26:20,653 --> 00:26:23,653
also didn't do due diligence,
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00:26:23,653 --> 00:26:25,293
and investigate
this case right.
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00:26:28,023 --> 00:26:30,823
When the verdict came back
for the Patrick Kelly case,
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it took probably
about two hours,
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00:26:32,893 --> 00:26:34,653
and it was guilty for him.
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And he was gonna be
sent away like the other two,
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for the rest of his life.
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00:26:41,723 --> 00:26:43,453
I felt grieved in that moment.
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It was just gross in a
lot of ways, like it was
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very sad what happened to him.
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00:27:21,223 --> 00:27:23,763
I feel that what happened
here, to my client
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was a travesty of injustice,
was a rape of justice.
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And that the people
responsible for it,
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and let me be blunt,
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Margie Cantrell,
John Cantrell,
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00:27:36,093 --> 00:27:38,723
Ranger Kemp, Joe Murphy,
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Matt Bingham, Judge Skeen,
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all of these people
should be held responsible.
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00:27:46,023 --> 00:27:47,823
That the harm they inflicted,
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should be the harm
they suffer.
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00:27:51,193 --> 00:27:53,853
I don't hide evidence.
I've been here 16 years
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and I try stuff fairly.
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00:27:56,023 --> 00:27:57,853
{\an8}You know the defense just
doesn't like the fact that
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{\an8}their client got convicted
and got a life sentence.
437
00:27:59,593 --> 00:28:01,453
{\an8}I mean, let's
call it what it is.
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00:28:01,453 --> 00:28:03,923
{\an8}Thad Davidson was
complaining about the DA.
439
00:28:03,923 --> 00:28:06,763
{\an8}The DA was complaining
about Thad.
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00:28:06,763 --> 00:28:09,223
{\an8}But the one thing that Thad
Davidson said that made me...
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really think was,
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there's no evidence here,
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00:28:13,953 --> 00:28:16,023
and there were no
grown-up witnesses.
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00:28:16,023 --> 00:28:20,823
And so I thought, wow, this
could really be a story.
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00:28:20,823 --> 00:28:23,763
If these guys did it,
it's one kind of story.
446
00:28:23,763 --> 00:28:25,353
And if these guys
didn't do it,
447
00:28:25,353 --> 00:28:27,553
it's another kind of story.
448
00:28:27,553 --> 00:28:30,393
So I decided to interview
some of the Cantrells'
other foster kids.
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00:28:32,023 --> 00:28:34,493
One of her sons called her
the "puppet master."
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Kids in California said
that she was manipulative.
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00:28:37,763 --> 00:28:39,763
So I called her several times,
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00:28:39,763 --> 00:28:41,823
'cause I really did
want to talk with her.
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00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:44,493
And it was toward the end
of the reporting process
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where I did get
her on the phone.
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00:28:46,593 --> 00:28:47,653
[ringback tone]
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I put up my back to
not be taken in by this woman,
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00:29:32,123 --> 00:29:35,763
and within seconds
I felt like I was being
pulled along a conveyor belt
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by an impossible force.
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00:29:39,493 --> 00:29:41,723
And if she's that way
with grownups,
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00:29:41,723 --> 00:29:43,453
imagine her with kids.
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00:29:46,493 --> 00:29:50,493
[Margie] Michael Hall said
that I was a puppet master mother.
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00:29:51,653 --> 00:29:54,763
And it really shocked me
and it hurt so deep,
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00:29:54,763 --> 00:29:57,953
deeper than you could
ever imagine.
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00:29:57,953 --> 00:30:01,553
Mind you, I was a mother
of 15 teenagers at one time,
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00:30:01,553 --> 00:30:04,493
I was pretty regimental, yes.
466
00:30:04,493 --> 00:30:07,323
Everybody had a chore
and I expected it done.
467
00:30:08,023 --> 00:30:10,293
Puppet master, no.
468
00:30:14,723 --> 00:30:16,953
[Mike] There are so many lies
in this story.
469
00:30:16,953 --> 00:30:19,953
Margie knows how to
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00:30:19,953 --> 00:30:22,853
push people's buttons
and manipulate them.
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00:30:22,853 --> 00:30:26,093
You go to each one
of my children
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and you try to demonize me
through my own children?
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[sniffles]
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[Tamara]
After the third trial,
everything completely turned,
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00:30:42,763 --> 00:30:45,493
it was like the mic drop time,
like, "What is going on?"
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[female reporter]
With the recent developments,
all eyes will be
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00:30:50,353 --> 00:30:52,923
on the fourth trial
in the Mineola sex-ring case.
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00:30:52,923 --> 00:30:55,823
Dennis Pittman, a friend
of convicted defendants,
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00:30:55,823 --> 00:30:59,653
Shauntel Mayo
and Jamie Pittman,
will begin trial Monday.
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00:31:03,823 --> 00:31:05,593
[Mike] The fourth trial
was Dennis Pittman.
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00:31:05,593 --> 00:31:09,593
He was local guy,
been around for a long time.
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00:31:09,593 --> 00:31:11,453
Pittman has a really good
lawyer, Jason Cassel,
483
00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:13,223
young guy,
based out of Longview.
484
00:31:13,223 --> 00:31:15,123
Jason's a smart guy,
he knows something's up,
485
00:31:15,123 --> 00:31:17,223
he, he believes that
Pittman is innocent.
486
00:31:18,593 --> 00:31:22,923
{\an8}[Jason] Dennis was
real soft spoken and
when I first met with him
487
00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:26,593
he was basically like,
you know,
"I didn't, I didn't do this,
488
00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:30,323
and I don't know why
this is being said about me."
489
00:31:53,353 --> 00:31:55,853
[Mike] I got there early
on the first day of trial,
490
00:31:55,853 --> 00:31:58,223
and I found a seat
in the courtroom.
491
00:31:58,223 --> 00:32:00,653
And all of a sudden
I'm aware of this figure
492
00:32:00,653 --> 00:32:03,223
kind of moving really slowly
493
00:32:04,823 --> 00:32:06,653
to the right and in front
of me,
494
00:32:06,653 --> 00:32:09,323
and I finally look up
and it's Dennis Pittman.
495
00:32:09,323 --> 00:32:13,453
He looks like somebody
in a hospital who is
heavily sedated.
496
00:32:35,223 --> 00:32:40,023
I just knew that this guy,
you know, he was doomed.
497
00:32:42,353 --> 00:32:44,923
Bingham did not
pull back one bit.
498
00:32:44,923 --> 00:32:49,123
He was going full boar
to get a conviction
of Dennis Pittman.
499
00:32:49,123 --> 00:32:52,493
And of course,
the three previous juries
500
00:32:52,493 --> 00:32:55,223
had found guilty verdicts
right away.
501
00:32:55,223 --> 00:32:58,723
I think most people there
thought, "It's probably
gonna happen again."
502
00:32:58,723 --> 00:33:01,763
But during the trial,
a bombshell dropped.
503
00:33:06,193 --> 00:33:08,393
[Gabby]
During the first trial,
I was seven.
504
00:33:08,393 --> 00:33:10,323
Then there was
the questioning,
505
00:33:10,323 --> 00:33:15,123
going over my testimony,
which sometimes lasted
hours as well.
506
00:33:17,093 --> 00:33:18,353
[Ranger Kemp] Alrighty.
507
00:33:38,723 --> 00:33:40,763
[Gabby] During
the Dennis Pittman trials,
508
00:33:40,763 --> 00:33:42,593
I was going into middle school
509
00:33:42,593 --> 00:33:46,093
and I wanted to move on
past this.
510
00:34:03,193 --> 00:34:05,493
Matt Bingham,
that was questioning me,
511
00:34:05,493 --> 00:34:08,453
I, you know,
had heard him stating
512
00:34:08,453 --> 00:34:11,653
earlier in the day
to Joe Murphy that,
513
00:34:11,653 --> 00:34:14,353
"I'm gonna have to treat
her like a hostile witness."
514
00:34:14,353 --> 00:34:19,723
Well, I had had enough
of that so I
515
00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:24,293
made his day worse
516
00:34:24,293 --> 00:34:28,293
by finally saying, you know,
what he didn't want to hear.
517
00:34:47,223 --> 00:34:49,023
When they were questioning me,
518
00:34:49,023 --> 00:34:53,393
that I had kind of recanted
in a way, it was--
519
00:34:53,393 --> 00:34:57,853
it blurted out of my mouth.
I, It just came out.
520
00:34:57,853 --> 00:35:00,823
[Mike] In all the times
I've been in courts
covering stories,
521
00:35:00,823 --> 00:35:03,823
I've never seen somebody
with that kind of courage.
522
00:35:03,823 --> 00:35:07,723
She is absolutely fearless
and I, I remember thinking,
523
00:35:07,723 --> 00:35:10,493
"Where is this gonna go?"
524
00:35:10,493 --> 00:35:13,923
[Jason] When Gabby testified,
that was really one of
the times where I thought,
525
00:35:13,923 --> 00:35:17,653
you know,
"Oh, you know,
we got a [bleep] chance."
526
00:35:27,353 --> 00:35:32,653
I needed an explanation for
as to why I was changing
my story
527
00:35:32,653 --> 00:35:38,953
and, you know,
I went to church every Sunday
for three hours.
528
00:35:38,953 --> 00:35:41,763
God made me tell the truth.
God told me to do it.
529
00:35:50,293 --> 00:35:52,953
I felt better
once I had said it.
530
00:35:52,953 --> 00:35:55,953
There was always, like, this
knot in the pit of my stomach.
531
00:35:55,953 --> 00:35:57,653
And the second that I said,
532
00:35:57,653 --> 00:36:02,123
"That didn't happen.
God told me to tell
the truth,"
533
00:36:02,123 --> 00:36:04,023
that knot loosened.
534
00:36:05,763 --> 00:36:10,853
I had never in my life,
you know, met Dennis Pittman.
535
00:36:10,853 --> 00:36:14,493
I had never been introduced
to him by my parents.
536
00:36:14,493 --> 00:36:19,853
The truth of the matter is,
is that it didn't happen,
it never happened.
537
00:36:19,853 --> 00:36:21,353
They brainwashed us.
538
00:36:29,323 --> 00:36:33,863
[Mike] So, when Gabby finally
said, "This didn't happen,"
539
00:36:33,863 --> 00:36:35,653
I mean, if this were
a Hollywood movie,
540
00:36:35,653 --> 00:36:37,763
the whole case would've
fallen apart right then.
541
00:36:37,763 --> 00:36:39,963
Margie Cantrell would've
fessed up
542
00:36:39,963 --> 00:36:41,493
to making the whole thing up.
543
00:36:41,493 --> 00:36:43,793
The, the judge would've
declared a mistrial,
544
00:36:43,793 --> 00:36:46,523
and everything would've been
hunky-dory.
545
00:36:46,523 --> 00:36:48,793
But this is Smith County.
[chuckles]
546
00:36:48,793 --> 00:36:51,253
And in Smith County
you keep going.
547
00:36:53,863 --> 00:36:55,523
[Jason] At the end of the day,
548
00:36:55,523 --> 00:36:57,623
with the way that they
tried the case
549
00:36:57,623 --> 00:36:58,963
and the way that they
argued it,
550
00:36:58,963 --> 00:37:01,123
going after hearts
rather than minds,
551
00:37:01,123 --> 00:37:04,693
I just felt like they would
sit there and say,
552
00:37:04,693 --> 00:37:06,523
"We're gonna
find this guy guilty."
553
00:37:08,693 --> 00:37:09,863
[gavel bangs]
554
00:37:12,253 --> 00:37:13,593
[Jason] And that's what
they did.
555
00:37:21,893 --> 00:37:26,693
In the back of your mind,
when you believe that
this guy is not guilty,
556
00:37:26,693 --> 00:37:30,023
it stings, you know,
that's the thing that
really hurts is knowing...
557
00:37:30,023 --> 00:37:31,523
[door buzzer rings]
558
00:37:32,323 --> 00:37:34,023
...an innocent man
went to prison.
559
00:37:57,393 --> 00:37:59,893
[Gabby]
After Dennis Pittman's trial,
560
00:37:59,893 --> 00:38:02,863
it got to the point where
I was not mentally okay
561
00:38:02,863 --> 00:38:06,493
{\an8}because my parents' trials
were coming up really quickly.
562
00:38:07,893 --> 00:38:09,963
{\an8}I knew that they were next.
563
00:38:09,963 --> 00:38:12,793
I was going through
a lot of mental struggles
564
00:38:12,793 --> 00:38:16,893
at the time that this picture
was taken. I was suicidal.
565
00:38:16,893 --> 00:38:18,693
I wrote a suicide letter,
566
00:38:18,693 --> 00:38:21,593
stating that I couldn't
do this anymore.
567
00:38:21,593 --> 00:38:23,653
It was after that that,
you know,
568
00:38:25,523 --> 00:38:28,523
they finally, you know,
started making the deals,
569
00:38:28,523 --> 00:38:31,863
and making it to where
I didn't have to testify
against my parents.
570
00:38:33,623 --> 00:38:37,153
And they make it sound like
it's for my health
and well-being,
571
00:38:37,153 --> 00:38:39,393
but I really think that
it was because
572
00:38:39,393 --> 00:38:42,323
they knew if I got back up
on that stand,
573
00:38:43,693 --> 00:38:46,063
it was not gonna be
what they wanted.
574
00:38:58,623 --> 00:39:01,893
At that point, Jimmy had been
behind bars for four years
575
00:39:01,893 --> 00:39:05,253
and he said, "I'm done.
I'll, I'll take a deal.
576
00:39:05,253 --> 00:39:07,523
I will admit guilt
to something I didn't do."
577
00:39:07,523 --> 00:39:11,063
Shelia said the same.
In exchange for the plea
578
00:39:11,063 --> 00:39:14,693
and agreeing to not have
contact with Gabby
till she was 18,
579
00:39:14,693 --> 00:39:17,653
Jimmy and Shelia were released
in August 2010.
580
00:39:27,523 --> 00:39:29,653
This is the new
Smith County Jail.
581
00:39:30,793 --> 00:39:33,223
This is the old one.
That's the one I was in
582
00:39:34,253 --> 00:39:37,763
for three years,
11 months and 23 days.
583
00:39:39,653 --> 00:39:42,493
That recreation was
the only sunlight we ever got,
584
00:39:42,493 --> 00:39:46,063
and we probably got it,
maybe, once a week,
if we were lucky.
585
00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:49,593
I was on the third floor.
586
00:39:52,023 --> 00:39:54,153
Those were the infirmary windows.
587
00:39:56,323 --> 00:39:57,323
{\an8}[interviewer speaking]
588
00:39:57,323 --> 00:39:59,323
Oh, yeah, several times.
589
00:39:59,323 --> 00:40:00,763
Getting stitched up.
590
00:40:02,063 --> 00:40:05,323
My memory here is straight up
hell on earth.
591
00:40:06,693 --> 00:40:09,223
I wouldn't wish this
on my worst enemy,
592
00:40:10,423 --> 00:40:12,793
especially for someone
being in jail
593
00:40:12,793 --> 00:40:14,763
when they didn't
commit a crime.
594
00:40:16,323 --> 00:40:18,253
When I took the plea bargain,
595
00:40:18,253 --> 00:40:23,893
my attorney told me that
I had to sign my rights
over to Gabby.
596
00:40:23,893 --> 00:40:26,523
That was the saddest day
of my life.
597
00:40:30,153 --> 00:40:33,493
I always told my daughter
that I would never give up
on her,
598
00:40:35,323 --> 00:40:36,963
and at this time I did.
599
00:40:40,323 --> 00:40:42,323
She was my baby girl.
600
00:40:42,323 --> 00:40:47,253
Everything in this world
did not matter to me
unless it involved Gabby.
601
00:40:52,063 --> 00:40:54,323
[Shelia] Gabby was
the love of my life,
602
00:40:55,153 --> 00:40:58,223
and she's still
the love of my life.
603
00:41:01,223 --> 00:41:03,593
We were very proud parents.
604
00:41:03,593 --> 00:41:07,153
Jimmy said he only ever wanted
one and that's what he got, one.
605
00:41:13,893 --> 00:41:18,063
{\an8}[Jimmy] I never thought
I'd be living back here
in Mineola, but here I am.
606
00:41:20,963 --> 00:41:23,063
Considering all
the nightmares.
607
00:41:25,063 --> 00:41:28,493
The media had painted
such a horrible picture of us,
608
00:41:28,493 --> 00:41:29,793
that we were monsters.
609
00:41:33,153 --> 00:41:35,893
We were the worst scum
on earth.
610
00:41:38,863 --> 00:41:41,963
Little building right here
is the newspaper place.
611
00:41:46,623 --> 00:41:48,523
And then that building
up there
612
00:41:48,523 --> 00:41:50,523
is where
the swingers club was.
613
00:42:05,423 --> 00:42:06,493
[exhales sharply]
614
00:42:19,063 --> 00:42:21,863
Just being here
makes me sick to my stomach.
615
00:42:25,693 --> 00:42:27,393
This is
a piece of [bleep] place,
616
00:42:27,393 --> 00:42:29,793
it needs to be tore down,
as far as I'm concerned.
617
00:42:32,323 --> 00:42:34,323
And it's a reminder of evil.
618
00:42:35,123 --> 00:42:36,423
Straight up evil.
619
00:42:39,253 --> 00:42:42,123
It's not none of the kids'
fault that we went through this.
620
00:42:44,253 --> 00:42:46,253
It's the Cantrell family.
621
00:42:46,253 --> 00:42:48,223
Margie Cantrell
and John Cantrell.
622
00:42:48,223 --> 00:42:52,323
What do you think about
these allegations that are
being made against you?
623
00:42:52,323 --> 00:42:55,253
- We don't even know
most of them yet. [chuckles]
- Mmm-hmm.
624
00:42:56,893 --> 00:42:58,793
- [female lawyer] Margaret!
- Yes, ma'am.
625
00:42:58,793 --> 00:43:00,593
- [female lawyer] Go.
- [Margie] Yes, ma'am.
626
00:43:00,593 --> 00:43:01,963
- Go!
- No.
627
00:43:01,963 --> 00:43:04,423
Hurry up. Go.
628
00:43:05,423 --> 00:43:07,653
[Mike] Everything they'd said
was a lie,
629
00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:10,423
sex kindergarten,
the swingers club.
630
00:43:11,323 --> 00:43:13,253
And that ruined a bunch of
people's lives
631
00:43:13,253 --> 00:43:15,153
and sent a bunch of people
to prison
632
00:43:15,153 --> 00:43:18,153
and ruin a bunch of children's
childhoods.
633
00:43:19,323 --> 00:43:21,123
- [car engine starts]
- [Mike] And then we found out
634
00:43:21,123 --> 00:43:25,063
why they would've done
all this in the first place.
635
00:43:25,063 --> 00:43:26,893
[Jimmy] They don't care
who they hurt.
636
00:43:27,863 --> 00:43:29,793
What family they devastate.
637
00:43:31,123 --> 00:43:32,593
They're in it for the money.
638
00:43:35,593 --> 00:43:39,593
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