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[engine idling]
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[radio crackling]
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[80s pop music]
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[engine rumbling]
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[engine cuts]
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-[song ends]
-[footsteps]
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[unsettling music]
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[electronic music]
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[music continues]
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[music fades]
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[Burns] I got a call at
two or three in the morning.
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I was told
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that Lance Conway Wood
was at the sheriff's department.
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Sergeant Frank Slack
is the one that called me,
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and he said...
He's telling me this tale
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about somebody
that was murdered.
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"I think this guy
is on meth or crazy,
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but could you come down
and help me with this?"
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[police on recording]
2:40 in the morning.
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We're at
the Iron County Jail facility
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asking some questions
of Lance Wood.
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Lance Wood informs
John Grath and Sergeant Slack
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that he has some information
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about a possible homicide.
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He told a horrific tale.
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[traffic ambiance]
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[Wood] So it was me, Mike...
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[police]
You're driving down the road.
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[Wood] All I know is that...
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he was driving
and Mike slit his throat.
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-[police] While he was driving?
-[Wood] While he's driving,
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and then he cut
his shoulders, too.
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All the dude
says is "ouch," you know?
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[police] And what
happened after he cut him?
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[Wood] Cut him,
dude pulled over...
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Mike had sex with him
on top of the...
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-[police] With the guy?
-[Wood] With the guy.
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I've stayed in the car
while this is happening.
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He got out,
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I know he picked up,
like, the tire iron,
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start smashing his head.
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[dull thuds]
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[Burns] And I remember thinking,
This is too violent,
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too sad,
too outrageous to be true.
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[police] Mike tell you
why he killed this Church?
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[Wood] 'Cause he's a faggot.
[chuckles]
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[police] That's what he said?
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[Burns] I was about ready
to wrap it up,
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and then I remember
looking down on his shoe
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and I saw one speck of blood.
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And that changed
everything for me.
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So I came
out of the closet in 2011
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and moved to Utah.
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At a certain point, I started
researching gay hate crimes.
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You ever heard
of Matthew Shepard?
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I remember the case.
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Hit national news. It was huge.
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And his name is remembered.
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People honor him.
There are memorials
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and funds and scholarships,
and...
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-Gordon has been forgotten.
-Just kinda drifted away.
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I mean, not forgotten
by his family, but--
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No. No, I know what you mean.
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[click]
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[police on recording] Will
you tell us your name, please?
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[Nancy] My name is Nancy Church.
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[police]
And you live in Delta, Utah?
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[Nancy] Yes, I do.
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[police] Who is your spouse?
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[Nancy] David Church.
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[police] Can you tell us
if you have children,
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and how many children?
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[Nancy] Yes, I do.
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I have three sons.
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A son Craig,
who is in Cedar City,
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a son Kevin,
who's in Philadelphia,
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and a son, Gordon, who's dead.
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[Anderson] The case
of Gordon Church
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kind of took over my life
at a certain point.
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It became kind of
a personal mission
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to see Gordon
remembered and honored.
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At the age of 28, he was living
in Cedar City, Utah,
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attending
Southern Utah State College
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as a theater tech major.
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[Loy] He was a very small guy,
I mean, very skinny.
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Very nice guy.
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[Long] He had
the perfect '80s hair!
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[chuckles] And just...
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just a normal 28 year-old.
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[Loy] He loved
his family very much,
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and his personality
reflected that.
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[click]
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[police] With respect
to your son Gordon,
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where did he live
in November of 1988?
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[Nancy] November of 1988, he was
living in my mother's house.
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He had decided that
he wanted to go back to school.
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And so he rented
a room from my mother,
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which was
more economical for him,
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and it helped her out,
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because she's retired
and living on limited money.
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And then
he would shovel her snow
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and take care of her,
and so it was a relief to us
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to have someone with my mother.
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[Kathy] We would meet
pretty much every day
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after one of our classes
for coffee.
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We would just talk.
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[Loy]
We'd go cruise Main Street,
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the whole five minutes,
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and then we'd go park
in the park,
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and just sit and chat.
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[birds chirping]
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[Kathy] He needed
an outlet that he...
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someone that he could talk to,
and so did I.
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He tended to seek out people
that wouldn't reject him
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for what he was.
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[Loy] We used to talk
about guys.
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We both liked
the same kind of guy,
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only difference is,
Gordon wanted one shorter.
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I wanted a six foot two guy,
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and he wanted
a five foot eight guy. [laughs]
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[Jesse] When I met Gordon,
he was a lot more different.
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Uh, he...
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experimented,
is we will call it.
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He had many boyfriends,
suitors, lovers.
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[Loy] We actually
would go to 7-Eleven.
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Gordon always
got his Mountain Dew,
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or in the evenings,
the Diet Coke.
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And he would get his cigarettes.
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And that was,
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I guess, you could say,
both of our vices.
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[laughs]
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[Jesse]
And when I got to college,
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that was when I had my first
intimate experience ever.
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And, Gordon
was a big part of that.
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And I was like,
wow, this is a rush.
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I don't want to leave
the house any more.
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[laughs]
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[Loy] Always relaxing,
always very comfortable.
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He was a nice guy to be around.
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Makes me miss him.
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[crickets]
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[police on recording]
Is what you told us...
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freely and voluntarily and
comes from your own volition?
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[Wood] Yes.
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-[police] Nobody's forced you--
-[Wood] No.
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I want to know
what protection I could receive,
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can receive.
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[police] Are you frightened
because you're afraid of Mike?
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[Wood] Yeah and what
he might do, you know?
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If he's in jail, you know,
for just a...
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or for at least 72 hours,
I can try...
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we can probably find
a new apartment.
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[police] Or we can
do better than that.
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We're gonna find the body.
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-[Wood] Yes.
-[police] Okay.
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[Wood]
An apartment for me, though.
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[police] Yeah. All right.
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Well, we got a long ways to go.
First, we gotta...
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I'm concerned
Mr. Archuleta's on the street,
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and in this type of murder...
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The murder took place
one day ago.
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I'm concerned that
it's 2:30 in the morning,
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you say he's gonna "cruise."
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-[Wood] Yeah.
-[police] It tells me
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he's gonna leave the area,
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and I want to...
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make arrangements
to go pick him up.
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So we'll conclude
the interview at this time.
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-Thank you.
-[Wood] Alright.
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So I remember I called
our sheriff, Ira Schoppmann.
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And he said, let's put
this little feller in the car
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and let's go see
if we can find us a body.
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[tense music]
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[Burns] We got to a turnoff,
mile marker 138,
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and he said,
"I think it's over there."
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[Anderson]
And they realized that
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this was something very real.
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They had a body on their hands.
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And there was
a dangerous man still free.
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So they rushed
back to Cedar City
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to get Michael Archuleta.
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[Burns] He was
with a girlfriend.
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They were sleeping
in an apartment in a bed.
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I remember
we kicked the door in.
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And I distinctly remember,
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because it was one of
the highlights of the day,
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is a Cedar City police officer
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shoving
a. 357 Magnum in his mouth,
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and, you know,
begging him to move.
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Archuleta was very compliant.
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Denied everything.
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And I think before we
even asked him any questions,
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he was already
pointing the finger
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at Lance Wood.
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[Anderson]
Once Archuleta was in custody,
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police went back with Lance Wood
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to begin processing
the crime scene.
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[police] The area
is Dog Valley area,
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located approximately
milepost 138.
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The scene of a homicide,
case number--
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[Masner] As I walked forward,
taking photographs
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from the freeway,
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we could see that it was...
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it was a red substance
on the road.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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Hair,
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what appeared to be skin.
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We knew we had
something serious here.
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It kind of led us up a trail.
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You could see
where something had been drug.
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We got into the area
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where we could see
what was underneath there,
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and it was a human body.
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And I, seeing the body
laying there, I thought,
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why, I know this guy.
I know this guy.
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[Masner] Took a picture
of the driver's license.
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-[camera shutter clicking]
-And then had
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Captain Dekker look at it.
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And he identified our victim
as Gordon Church.
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[Dekker] I remember
looking at that
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and seeing
the address is Delta, Utah,
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and I said, "Oh, crap,
I do know this kid."
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I hollered up to my sheriff,
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and I said, "Sheriff,
this is one of our residents."
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And I remember
we called his neighbor,
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the Churchs' neighbor,
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was one of our deputies,
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to go make the notification.
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Now that was difficult for him,
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because he lived three,
four houses away.
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[Whatcott] When I
walked up to the door,
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Nancy opened the door, she knew
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right off something was wrong.
They had been expecting
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a call from Gordon.
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I think he was coming
home for Thanksgiving.
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[police] At ten hundred hours,
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reporting officer met
with Mr. and Mrs. David Church,
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the parents of the victim,
in Delta.
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The Churches
had several questions
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as to the things
that had taken place
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in reference to the homicide.
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I mean, it just
tore them apart. I mean..
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And it was tough,
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toughest thing
I think I've ever done.
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[news fanfare]
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[announcer] This is KUTV News.
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Lack of funding is forcing
Utah's first AIDS support group
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to shut down in January.
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We certainly
don't need homosexuals
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teaching us about AIDS,
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when we can thank
the homosexual community
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for this scourge
in the first place.
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[Jesse] But with
the fear of the AIDS crisis
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that have just came out,
you almost fear like,
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you know, I need to couple up
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with somebody
who doesn't have it.
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I don't even know
how you get it,
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how you give it to somebody,
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or how it's brought out
into the relationship,
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but I need to find somebody
right away that doesn't have it.
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[Kathy] Yeah,
being gay in the 1980s
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was completely
different than it is now.
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I mean, there were
more closeted gays.
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It just wasn't as accepted.
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[Loy] He tried to hide it.
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He never wanted it to be seen.
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And I was actually
part of his secret life.
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As far as being in Cedar,
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it's such a tight-knit
little Mormon community
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that you just didn't show it.
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[Kathy] He was...
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I think, in his eyes,
disappointing his family.
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[Whatcott]
The Church family was...
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They were just
good home-grown people.
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[Kathy] They kind of
knew that he was not...
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that he was not
the good little Mormon boy
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that they wanted him to be.
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[Phillips] What had been...
I would describe it as a...
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pretty happy and robust family,
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the entire Church family.
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They were always up,
so to speak, you know?
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This incident just
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virtually destroyed
that whole family.
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It ruined Dave for a while.
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He quit going to church.
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Really got quiet,
never visited with anybody.
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It tore him up pretty bad.
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It was just a...
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life-changing event
for a lot of people.
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[Kathy] I did not attend
Gordon's funeral in Delta, no.
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We knew that the family
didn't want us there.
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Because that
would have meant to them
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accepting the fact that
that Gordon was gay.
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[Phillips] Well,
what I was told in my youth
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and growing up years
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is out in Dog Valley here
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that it was heavily infested
with prairie dogs.
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This is the typical temperature
and so on
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of the exact morning
that all of this occurred,
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and the days leading up to it.
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It was damn cold weather.
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At this point, we got Wood here,
we had heard his story.
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He had indicated
where this had all happened,
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the homicide had happened,
and where the body was.
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[Masner]
And I worked the camera,
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and on videotape,
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he agreed to do what
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I called a crime scene
re-enactment.
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[static buzz]
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[police] We'd be continuation
as if we're in a vehicle.
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-[Wood] Okay.
-[police] Still in the vehicle,
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Archuleta's still driving.
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[Wood] Right.
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[Dekker] And I thought,
man, this doesn't happen
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very often,
you get somebody was there
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can be a witness.
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But as we walked around
that crime scene down there...
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-You're still in the vehicle?
-We're still in the vehicle.
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[Dekker] My gut started to churn
and I just thought,
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this isn't right.
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This guy is leading us down this
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merry little path...
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[speaking indistinctly]
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...that he wants us to know,
and so I've started
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correcting some of my questions
in a different way.
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He opened the trunk, and...
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he got jerked out of the trunk.
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Church dude says, "You're
gonna kill me, aren't you?"
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Archuleta goes,
"No, I'm not gonna kill you."
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Lance seemed to be
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really excited
about telling everybody.
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[indistinct] started lifting him
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and he started wrapping
the chains around him,
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I think the chains,
he hooked the chains up.
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And then he hooked the jumper
cables to the guy's balls.
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[Phillips] I mean,
we just let him rattle on.
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I mean, it's just amazing.
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You know, we had decided
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that's the take on it,
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that's what we were gonna do.
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I just didn't
trust him at the time.
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I could just tell there was
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more to it
than what he was saying,
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and I think everybody
was the same way.
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00:18:16,011 --> 00:18:17,554
[unclear]
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[coughs]
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00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:22,059
Archuleta told me
that he'd have to kill him.
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[Phillips]
On and on and on that day,
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from the time of the meeting
in Fillmore
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on the ride out here,
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00:18:30,317 --> 00:18:31,735
battin' his gums,
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00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:35,906
and then out here,
he was just all show and tell.
353
00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:38,992
Which arm and
which leg did he use?
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00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:40,452
The guy was laying like this,
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00:18:40,577 --> 00:18:41,912
so it had to be
this arm and this leg.
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00:18:42,037 --> 00:18:44,289
Was he laying on his back
or his stomach?
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00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:46,416
Oh, I think his...
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back, I think, or stomach.
Probably stomach.
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00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:54,466
Lance was enjoying
everything he told us about it.
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00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:57,052
I could see that in his face.
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00:18:57,177 --> 00:18:58,804
He's, you know, he's laughing
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00:18:58,929 --> 00:19:01,306
and smiling about things, and...
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00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:03,433
My God, I wouldn't be
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00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:06,520
laughing and smiling about
beating somebody's head in.
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00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:10,983
Once again, he told you
why he killed Mr. Church?
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00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:13,152
Yeah, because he's a queer.
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00:19:19,908 --> 00:19:23,453
[reflective piano music]
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00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:29,793
[Jesse] With Gordon and I,
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00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:31,545
I wouldn't say
that we were flirtatious,
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it was more like
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we were just two friends
that just loved to giggle
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and loved to laugh.
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Thing is, as you know, I knew
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00:19:38,302 --> 00:19:41,054
Jesse was gay, and I knew
Gordon was gay,
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00:19:41,221 --> 00:19:44,850
so the fact that they were
together made me happy, too,
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00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:47,644
because, you know,
at least they had each other.
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00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:49,897
I think we were watching...
378
00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:55,110
I know we were watching the
production of Hair. [chuckles]
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00:19:55,235 --> 00:19:56,653
He was on this side of me,
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00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:58,989
sitting on the floor,
on the couch.
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00:19:59,114 --> 00:20:01,074
And our hands kind of,
382
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,161
you know, I could feel that
my knee was touching his knee,
383
00:20:04,286 --> 00:20:05,746
and that my hand was getting
384
00:20:05,913 --> 00:20:07,581
really close
to touching his hand,
385
00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:10,584
and it felt really comfortable,
386
00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:14,087
it felt really good,
and he gave me a sense of...
387
00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:16,506
I don't know, this is exciting.
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00:20:16,632 --> 00:20:18,592
This is something
I didn't think I was gonna have
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00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:19,968
with a really good
friend of mine.
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00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:22,179
There were times
when I would be around him,
391
00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:24,932
and he would flame up,
392
00:20:25,098 --> 00:20:27,851
so to speak,
and I could see the flames.
393
00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:30,437
And he had a...
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00:20:31,104 --> 00:20:33,482
like a Streamline,
a Streamline trailer.
395
00:20:33,607 --> 00:20:35,776
And so we went back there,
396
00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:38,195
and stayed up till
all hours of the night
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00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,780
just sharing stories,
398
00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:41,698
looking out one of the windows
and seeing the stars.
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00:20:41,823 --> 00:20:45,994
The stars was just insanely big
and beautiful at the time.
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00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,538
I remember, as a young adult,
401
00:20:48,664 --> 00:20:50,374
that was the first time
I ever noticed that
402
00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:53,001
the stars are so thick
down in southern Utah.
403
00:20:53,126 --> 00:20:56,880
It's the sky, it's just so full.
404
00:20:58,882 --> 00:21:00,342
And I remember
the phrase in my head
405
00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:03,178
that I carried,
from now until then.
406
00:21:03,303 --> 00:21:04,638
I just remember
407
00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:05,973
when you're holding
each other so tight,
408
00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:08,517
and it just feels so good
and so connected,
409
00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:10,102
that when you
look down and you can't see
410
00:21:10,227 --> 00:21:11,687
whose arm belongs to who,
411
00:21:11,812 --> 00:21:13,981
and whose leg belongs to who,
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00:21:14,147 --> 00:21:16,191
and in the distance
you look out the window
413
00:21:16,316 --> 00:21:17,651
and you just
see all those stars,
414
00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:19,736
and I mean, I was in love.
415
00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:29,037
Jesse left Cedar City
at a certain point,
416
00:21:29,162 --> 00:21:31,999
and he and Gordon were dating
long distance for a while.
417
00:21:32,165 --> 00:21:34,501
It put a lot of strain
on their relationship.
418
00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,670
[Jesse] When we talked
on the telephone,
419
00:21:36,837 --> 00:21:38,630
it was one of
the last conversations we had.
420
00:21:38,755 --> 00:21:41,300
He would say
things are gonna be okay,
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00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:43,093
and I cried.
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00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:44,678
And I just thought
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00:21:44,803 --> 00:21:47,306
I don't understand
what's going on here right now.
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00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:49,891
A few months later, I remember,
425
00:21:50,017 --> 00:21:53,562
getting a phone call from
one of my good friends, Loy.
426
00:21:54,271 --> 00:21:57,065
Loy had told me that
427
00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:59,860
that Gordon was dead.
428
00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:01,403
[sobs]
429
00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:08,201
I just couldn't understand.
430
00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:09,411
[sobs]
431
00:22:12,706 --> 00:22:16,835
I just couldn't understand
how somebody could do that.
432
00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:24,051
How somebody could do that to
another human being, you know?
433
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,011
It was just not right.
434
00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:28,930
Especially to Gordon.
435
00:22:33,685 --> 00:22:37,773
[Jesse] I wish that
when he had passed away,
436
00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:40,650
that I could tell his parents,
437
00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,737
his family, you know,
438
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,155
that this is
439
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,573
not necessarily the way
he wanted to come out to you,
440
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,034
but he's a good person.
441
00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:51,787
And he had a good soul
and a good heart.
442
00:22:52,162 --> 00:22:54,414
Gordon wouldn't have
that kind of coming out story.
443
00:22:54,581 --> 00:22:56,416
He wouldn't have
anybody to hold him.
444
00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,293
This was how
the people were holding him.
445
00:22:58,418 --> 00:22:59,669
They're killing him!
446
00:22:59,795 --> 00:23:03,256
And there's nobody
in that room...
447
00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:04,508
[sobs]
448
00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:08,261
Who's gonna be able
to talk to him
449
00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:10,430
and tell him, you know,
450
00:23:10,555 --> 00:23:12,557
"I still love you," or,
451
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,976
"It's gonna be okay."
452
00:23:16,269 --> 00:23:18,897
[sobs]
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00:23:26,488 --> 00:23:28,281
[Dekker] Some time later,
we decided
454
00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:29,991
that we've got
to arrest this guy,
455
00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:32,994
although we didn't have anything
to hold him on the murder.
456
00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:36,331
When I got there, I was advised
457
00:23:36,456 --> 00:23:39,835
to take custody of Lance Wood.
458
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,128
They wanted to do
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00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,672
what they call a Code R kit,
or a rape kit.
460
00:23:44,047 --> 00:23:46,466
[Dekker] He wanted
to appear to be very helpful.
461
00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:49,594
He wanted to appear to be
the good guy.
462
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:53,640
That his involvement
was minor and out here,
463
00:23:53,807 --> 00:23:55,934
and this other guy
was the animal.
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00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:02,899
[Burns] At this point,
you have to understand
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00:24:03,024 --> 00:24:06,153
that we have
two criminal defendants,
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00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:08,864
two people
who just got out of prison,
467
00:24:08,989 --> 00:24:11,908
pointing the finger
at each other.
468
00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:15,245
We got Lance Conway Wood
with blood on his shoe,
469
00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:18,290
and the person that
took us to the crime scene,
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00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:21,460
telling us that
he had nothing to do with it.
471
00:24:21,585 --> 00:24:23,503
And then we have
Michael Anthony Archuleta,
472
00:24:23,670 --> 00:24:26,715
saying, "What does
this have to do with me?
473
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,176
I did nothing,
I'm here with my girlfriend,
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00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:30,760
trying to sleep."
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00:24:30,886 --> 00:24:33,430
[Whatcott] So we
went back to Cedar City,
476
00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:34,973
Thanksgiving night,
477
00:24:35,098 --> 00:24:39,478
interviewed Archuleta till
wee hours in the morning.
478
00:24:40,395 --> 00:24:41,563
[crackle]
479
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:46,985
[police] I guess,
why don't you just start
480
00:24:48,028 --> 00:24:52,032
and just tell us
how did you meet this guy.
481
00:24:52,365 --> 00:24:54,951
[Archuleta] On Main Street.
482
00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:57,662
[indistinct]
483
00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:01,166
[Whatcott]
He advised us at that time,
484
00:25:01,291 --> 00:25:02,751
you know, that they were both...
485
00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:05,712
he and Wood were both
willing participants in this.
486
00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:08,006
[Archuleta]
Lance walked up to him.
487
00:25:09,216 --> 00:25:11,510
He grabbed his neck
and tried to break it.
488
00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:15,055
He grabbed it from, like this
behind and twisted it.
489
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,556
[Burns] They all lied.
490
00:25:16,723 --> 00:25:18,725
Wood lied, Archuleta lied,
491
00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:21,186
and, if you saw that scene,
492
00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:24,397
I think anybody that was even
involved in that would lie,
493
00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:27,859
because you do not want to be
associated with what happened.
494
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:32,322
[police] Yet Lance is saying
that you killed the man.
495
00:25:33,156 --> 00:25:35,784
You're saying
that Lance killed him.
496
00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:40,247
How are we gonna know
who's telling the truth?
497
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:43,500
[Archuleta] I guess
it's my word against his.
498
00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:45,502
[police] Yeah, that's kind of
what it is, right now,
499
00:25:45,627 --> 00:25:46,670
I guess.
500
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:49,464
The stories just
weren't making any sense.
501
00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:51,841
They weren't from the beginning.
502
00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:55,428
I've heard enough stories
to know when blinds are coming.
503
00:25:55,595 --> 00:25:57,264
And I believed
blinds were coming.
504
00:25:58,181 --> 00:26:00,308
[police] Things have
a way of working out.
505
00:26:00,433 --> 00:26:03,228
The truth is gonna come out
sooner or later.
506
00:26:03,603 --> 00:26:04,521
[Archuleta] Yeah.
507
00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:06,356
[police] And it does.
508
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:09,150
Whether you want to tell
me the truth or not,
509
00:26:09,276 --> 00:26:10,443
but, you know...
510
00:26:11,027 --> 00:26:14,030
I'm gonna find out
what the hell the truth is.
511
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:18,994
It was a crime that
needed to be solved,
512
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,704
and it's too bad,
513
00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:23,748
but in a way we owed that
to Lance Conway Wood.
514
00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:27,752
But we still have him
being involved in the crime
515
00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:29,462
and trying to get himself out
516
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:32,632
by coming to tell us
the things that he told us.
517
00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:33,925
And saying, look at me,
518
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:35,885
I'm free and clean,
I didn't do this.
519
00:26:36,011 --> 00:26:37,470
I'm just trying
to help you guys out,
520
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:38,763
'cause I'm a good guy.
521
00:26:38,888 --> 00:26:40,682
He's not a good guy.
522
00:26:41,391 --> 00:26:44,936
[police] If what you
tried to tell us thus far
523
00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:47,981
were the truth,
then why were you lying to us?
524
00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:49,649
About lots of things.
525
00:26:49,816 --> 00:26:51,735
[Wood] Not lots of things.
526
00:26:53,069 --> 00:26:55,739
There is just
a couple of things left out.
527
00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:58,950
[police] You need
to level with us, young man,
528
00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:00,577
if that's what you want to do.
529
00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:03,371
I think that's the right
and the proper thing to do.
530
00:27:03,496 --> 00:27:06,207
[Wood] And what's gonna
happen to me then, though?
531
00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:09,794
[police] What do you mean,
what's gonna happen to you then?
532
00:27:10,253 --> 00:27:13,048
[Wood] What's gonna
happen to me then, you know?
533
00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:15,675
[police] I don't
understand the question
534
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,302
"What's gonna happen
to you then?"
535
00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:18,928
[Wood] Uh...
536
00:27:22,098 --> 00:27:24,392
The parts I told you
what happened
537
00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:26,645
up at the murder scene was true.
538
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:29,522
Some parts I left out.
539
00:27:29,689 --> 00:27:32,567
[police] You weren't sitting
in the car this whole time.
540
00:27:32,692 --> 00:27:34,611
Don't give me that nonsense.
541
00:27:34,736 --> 00:27:36,696
[Wood] I was sitting in the car.
542
00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:37,739
[police] No, you weren't.
543
00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:38,948
[Wood] Yes, I was.
544
00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:40,450
[police] I don't believe that.
545
00:27:40,575 --> 00:27:42,827
You know, if you want
to jerk us around,
546
00:27:42,952 --> 00:27:44,704
play games, I'm not
gonna do that with you.
547
00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:46,498
Lance, I'm telling you
that right now.
548
00:27:46,623 --> 00:27:47,874
You know, you come to us
549
00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,460
like you're
kind of the victim here,
550
00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:53,713
that Archuleta
did the whole darn thing,
551
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,298
and you're scared of him,
552
00:27:55,423 --> 00:27:57,384
and you didn't know what to do,
and all this nonsense.
553
00:27:57,509 --> 00:28:01,054
And yet, you come with
a bunch of half-truths,
554
00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:03,890
you leave out
a whole bunch of stuff.
555
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,811
It doesn't cut it, man,
you know, it doesn't wash.
556
00:28:07,936 --> 00:28:09,854
You haven't told us the truth.
557
00:28:09,979 --> 00:28:12,065
And there isn't
anybody in the world
558
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:13,900
who's gonna believe that.
559
00:28:14,067 --> 00:28:17,028
And that doesn't look good
for you, I don't think.
560
00:28:17,153 --> 00:28:19,280
You're sitting there
and trying to...
561
00:28:20,073 --> 00:28:21,616
I don't know what the word is,
562
00:28:21,741 --> 00:28:23,451
to manipulate the system.
563
00:28:23,576 --> 00:28:26,913
You wanna get immunity,
and stuff like that.
564
00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:28,331
It's not gonna work.
565
00:28:28,456 --> 00:28:31,126
I can tell you that,
right up front.
566
00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:37,424
I don't see any remorse in you,
567
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:38,967
right here, right now.
568
00:28:39,092 --> 00:28:41,136
And I don't understand that.
569
00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:42,762
[Wood] Remorse?
What do you mean?
570
00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:44,556
[police] You know
what remorse means?
571
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:46,558
[Wood] Yeah, I know remorse,
but what? Remorse for what?
572
00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:49,394
[police]
For killing a man's life!
573
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:50,979
And you were
574
00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:53,773
very much involved
in that thing.
575
00:28:53,898 --> 00:28:57,402
You didn't do a damn thing
to save him, did you?
576
00:28:57,819 --> 00:28:59,112
You were involved--
577
00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:01,072
[Wood] I tell you
lot of things, and...
578
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,910
I did what I had to do.
579
00:29:06,619 --> 00:29:09,873
You can believe that or not,
but I can prove that.
580
00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:11,583
[police] Why, that's what
you're gonna have to do,
581
00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:14,043
-[police] young man.
-[Wood] I know.
582
00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:16,004
The bottom line is,
583
00:29:16,129 --> 00:29:18,298
both of those guys
killed this guy.
584
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:21,301
And nobody's
more innocent than the other.
585
00:29:21,676 --> 00:29:24,345
Both of them were involved.
Both of them were...
586
00:29:26,806 --> 00:29:28,183
devils.
587
00:29:28,808 --> 00:29:30,310
[ominous music]
588
00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:33,313
[Burns] I think both of them
lied to the bitter end,
589
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,814
and I think if you
590
00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:36,441
interviewed them today,
591
00:29:36,566 --> 00:29:38,443
they'd lie to you today.
592
00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:41,946
Look.
593
00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:44,282
And I don't make
any excuses what I did.
594
00:29:45,241 --> 00:29:47,410
But some way, and the point,
595
00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:50,538
is that I know that
I didn't murder Gordon Church.
596
00:30:03,843 --> 00:30:05,136
[Stella] We were in shock.
597
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:06,387
Utter, I mean, shock,
couldn't even believe it,
598
00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:07,931
He had just been
here at the house,
599
00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:09,516
and I thought,
Well, Mike is not capable
600
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,184
of anything that bad.
601
00:30:11,935 --> 00:30:14,813
But then I thought, you know,
something, when he's drugging
602
00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:16,231
and drinking,
603
00:30:16,356 --> 00:30:18,316
I guess he's capable
of just about anything.
604
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,403
[Peggy] So when
the police officers came here,
605
00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:25,073
I came over
and sat with Mom and Dad,
606
00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:27,075
and they went downstairs
into his room
607
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,494
and found some things that
608
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:31,120
had belonged to Gordon
609
00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:34,457
that Mike had had and left
downstairs in our basement.
610
00:30:34,874 --> 00:30:36,584
And so it just
it just went from there,
611
00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:39,003
you know, the nightmare began.
612
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,843
Get that [beep] camera
out of my face.
613
00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,221
[Anderson] Did Mike ever admit
to you what happened,
614
00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:50,974
-or did he give you the details?
-No.
615
00:30:52,058 --> 00:30:53,184
He's talked to Peggy
616
00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:54,811
more than to
anybody else, I will say.
617
00:30:54,936 --> 00:30:56,229
He's told me, he says,
618
00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:57,981
I'll take responsibility
for what I did, Mom.
619
00:30:58,106 --> 00:30:59,858
He says, and I know
what you've heard.
620
00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:01,150
Here's what I want you to know,
621
00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:02,318
that I didn't do
those horrible things,
622
00:31:02,443 --> 00:31:03,695
but I did do some.
623
00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:05,613
It's just shocking.
624
00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:07,574
You just can't even believe that
625
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:10,535
my little brother, this little
boy that I, you know,
626
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:12,161
that I watched grow up,
627
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:13,955
that I knew
was a troubled young man,
628
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,458
that he was capable
of doing such things.
629
00:31:20,086 --> 00:31:21,880
Archuleta's parents
630
00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:23,882
were good people.
631
00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:27,302
[Dekker] He was in a very
632
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:31,264
loving family setting
with his adopted parents.
633
00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:33,016
Oh, he was
an adorable little boy.
634
00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:35,894
First time I saw him,
he was hell on wheels.
635
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:38,938
[Peggy] We went to
the adoption agency,
636
00:31:39,063 --> 00:31:40,148
and they
had him there to meet us.
637
00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:41,816
And there was the cutest
little boy
638
00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:43,359
with a head full of curls.
639
00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:44,903
And he was sitting
in the middle of the floor,
640
00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:46,571
and he'd emptied
a whole box of crayons,
641
00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:48,197
and he was just
throwing them in the air,
642
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:50,491
just like raining down on him
and laughing.
643
00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:54,329
And we're like, whoa,
but that was Michael.
644
00:31:55,121 --> 00:31:56,539
I mean,
he was all over the place.
645
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:58,458
And I looked at him, and we were
gonna take him forever,
646
00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:00,501
and I knew that little boy's
gonna be mine.
647
00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:04,964
[Peggy] He arrived
with a paper bag
648
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:06,841
With some white t-shirts
649
00:32:06,966 --> 00:32:08,885
and maybe a pair of jeans.
650
00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:10,970
Those were
his worldly belongings.
651
00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:13,973
He'd come to the door
and he says, "Hi, I'm Michael."
652
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:17,560
And I says, "And I'm Stella."
653
00:32:17,685 --> 00:32:20,396
"Are you my mom?" I says,
"Yeah, I'll be your mom."
654
00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:22,482
[Peggy] When we met Mike,
655
00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:25,276
he had been in foster care
for a number of years,
656
00:32:25,401 --> 00:32:28,321
and he had been placed
in numerous foster homes.
657
00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:31,574
[Stella] They told us
seven different foster homes
658
00:32:31,699 --> 00:32:33,534
in a four-year period.
659
00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:35,078
[Peggy] From what we gathered,
660
00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:36,663
he'd been born
to a teenage mother.
661
00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:38,289
His mother had,
662
00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:41,167
at 16, had actively been engaged
663
00:32:41,334 --> 00:32:44,087
in drugs, alcohol
and prostitution.
664
00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:46,172
And he had scars on his bottom,
665
00:32:46,297 --> 00:32:50,259
like he'd sat on
or been sat on a hot grate.
666
00:32:50,385 --> 00:32:53,012
He had little criss-crosses,
and he had
667
00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:56,599
cigarette burn marks
on his legs.
668
00:32:57,517 --> 00:32:59,018
[Stella] One time,
I had to go to his school,
669
00:32:59,185 --> 00:33:00,520
'cause they called me
and told me
670
00:33:00,687 --> 00:33:02,230
Mike has barricaded himself
in the bathroom
671
00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:05,233
with a ball bat,
and he won't let nobody in.
672
00:33:05,858 --> 00:33:07,235
So I went over there,
673
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,362
and I knocked on the door,
674
00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:11,114
I says,
"Mike, are you in there?"
675
00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:13,533
And he says,
"Yes, I'm not coming out."
676
00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,410
I says, "Well, let me in."
He says, "Okay."
677
00:33:15,535 --> 00:33:17,078
So I went in,
and I talked to him
678
00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:19,372
and I got him out
and I took him home.
679
00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:20,790
They says, Well,
680
00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:22,583
we can't have him in class,
he's too disruptive.
681
00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:24,460
[Peggy] He was a troublemaker.
682
00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:26,754
He just seemed to always be in,
you know, in trouble.
683
00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:29,757
Not that he was maliciously
trying to get in trouble,
684
00:33:29,882 --> 00:33:32,301
but he just always found it.
685
00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:34,262
[Stella] Went out for Halloween,
686
00:33:34,387 --> 00:33:35,763
he says, "Those hippies
in that apartment down there
687
00:33:35,888 --> 00:33:38,016
put razor blades in my apple."
688
00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:40,476
And I says,
689
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:42,729
"What happened?" I mean,
690
00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,188
"Did they check them out?"
691
00:33:44,313 --> 00:33:45,940
they're not supposed to
give out apples, anyway."
692
00:33:46,065 --> 00:33:47,400
"No," he says,
"It had razor blades."
693
00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:49,068
Well, my mother
called me in the other room
694
00:33:49,193 --> 00:33:51,738
and she says, "Well,
Jerry and I watched him,
695
00:33:51,904 --> 00:33:54,574
and he put the razor blades
in that apple himself.
696
00:33:54,741 --> 00:33:56,242
He's trying to get
somebody else in trouble."
697
00:33:56,993 --> 00:34:01,914
[Peggy] He was always getting
expelled or asked to leave,
698
00:34:02,081 --> 00:34:04,709
or he couldn't go back.
699
00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:08,671
And so, he had
to go to school somewhere,
700
00:34:08,796 --> 00:34:11,090
and so he started
going into facilities
701
00:34:11,257 --> 00:34:14,302
in order to be able
to go to school.
702
00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:18,222
It seems like he turned 13
at the state hospital.
703
00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:23,269
And when he
came back from there,
704
00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:26,189
he was different,
he was more quiet,
705
00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:28,483
more subdued, more...
706
00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:31,652
He wasn't so out in the open
with everything he did.
707
00:34:31,778 --> 00:34:33,446
He was kind of
like more secretive.
708
00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:36,407
We didn't learn it at the time,
we found out since.
709
00:34:36,532 --> 00:34:39,035
There was,
a psych tech, they call him,
710
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,286
that had befriended him,
711
00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:42,246
and used to take him
home on weekends
712
00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:43,831
to help him do yard work.
713
00:34:43,956 --> 00:34:45,708
And we found out then that
714
00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:47,960
that he had been
sexually abusing Michael.
715
00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:51,631
[Stella] And when he came out,
he was acting up more than ever.
716
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:53,674
He was sneaking cigarettes
and beer
717
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,886
and sneaking out the window
and little things like that.
718
00:34:57,011 --> 00:34:59,972
[Peggy] He even went looking
for the person years later,
719
00:35:00,139 --> 00:35:01,307
you know, going to the house
720
00:35:01,474 --> 00:35:02,642
where he remembered
going to help
721
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,353
work in the yard,
looking for him to...
722
00:35:06,312 --> 00:35:08,314
get even, retaliate,
I don't know.
723
00:35:08,439 --> 00:35:09,565
But he had a lot of anger
724
00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:11,609
and a lot of
bitterness about that.
725
00:35:16,072 --> 00:35:18,407
[cheerful piano music]
726
00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:25,331
[Anderson] Lance Wood
grew up in Bountiful, Utah,
727
00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:27,166
in a very loving LDS family.
728
00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:29,168
He was the youngest
of four kids,
729
00:35:29,335 --> 00:35:30,878
and had
a pretty happy childhood.
730
00:35:31,003 --> 00:35:33,297
[Wood] I found out
that I was adopted,
731
00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:36,467
I believe,
when I was 12 years old.
732
00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:41,806
I can't say that was
the beginning of my problems,
733
00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:44,100
but it did escalate from there,
734
00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:45,977
in all sense of the word.
735
00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,770
I should have went to college,
I should have, you know...
736
00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:49,313
Given all the things
that I went through,
737
00:35:49,438 --> 00:35:51,149
and yet I chose a criminal life,
738
00:35:51,274 --> 00:35:52,567
and just not the murder,
739
00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:54,694
but my extensive
criminal activity
740
00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:55,862
prior to that.
741
00:35:56,028 --> 00:35:57,822
And there was
really no sense of it.
742
00:35:57,947 --> 00:36:00,533
I mean,
I was stealing things that
743
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:02,702
I didn't want or need,
744
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,954
you know,
so maybe it was oppression.
745
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:06,247
when I was being oppressive
746
00:36:12,211 --> 00:36:15,506
[Anderson] Tell me
when you first met Archuleta.
747
00:36:15,965 --> 00:36:17,758
[Wood] In, I think...
748
00:36:17,884 --> 00:36:20,219
Cedar City
Correctional Facility.
749
00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,556
[Anderson] Now,
you've now been paroled.
750
00:36:23,723 --> 00:36:26,893
And how is it you both ended up
back down here in Cedar City?
751
00:36:27,518 --> 00:36:30,188
[Wood] Because of Paula.
Paula Jones.
752
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,898
[Anderson] Okay.
It's a girlfriend.
753
00:36:32,064 --> 00:36:33,900
And you ended
up here because of...
754
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:34,942
[Wood] Brenda.
755
00:36:35,318 --> 00:36:36,235
[Anderson] Brenda.
756
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,653
[Wood] And Paula, yeah.
757
00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:39,197
Paula and Brenda
are living together.
758
00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:40,364
[Anderson] Okay,
so prison inmates
759
00:36:40,489 --> 00:36:41,824
meet local girls,
760
00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:43,868
and come back
to live there. Okay.
761
00:36:43,993 --> 00:36:47,330
[upbeat piano music]
762
00:36:50,082 --> 00:36:51,834
And he was a nice-looking guy.
763
00:36:51,959 --> 00:36:56,547
Not something that you would
expect to see behind bars.
764
00:36:58,257 --> 00:37:01,302
[Wood] Well, she worked as a DJ
at the radio station.
765
00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:04,722
I called them up
and donated some tapes
766
00:37:06,265 --> 00:37:09,143
and we kind of
got hooked up from there.
767
00:37:09,268 --> 00:37:11,687
Well, of course
it was behind glass,
768
00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:14,106
but he would call,
769
00:37:14,523 --> 00:37:16,859
and so we would talk for hours.
770
00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:18,861
A lot of it was, you know,
771
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:22,031
about how he could
change his life
772
00:37:22,156 --> 00:37:24,325
once he got paroled out.
773
00:37:25,701 --> 00:37:28,037
We were supposed to get married.
774
00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:33,251
Things worked a little different
once he got out.
775
00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:37,588
[Wood] It's fortunate, probably,
that we didn't get married,
776
00:37:37,713 --> 00:37:41,550
and, you know,
and all this, but...
777
00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:46,931
It was difficult for her.
778
00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:51,602
Lance was lazy, you know?
779
00:37:51,727 --> 00:37:53,938
The things that
we had talked about...
780
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,402
It wasn't the same,
and there was just
781
00:38:00,069 --> 00:38:01,946
a very strange feeling.
782
00:38:04,448 --> 00:38:05,825
[Wood] Relationships that I had,
783
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:08,286
had not been
meaningful relationships,
784
00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:10,913
and the feeling
of love is there,
785
00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:13,332
but it's always the next one,
you know.
786
00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:15,293
After that one,
I wanted to move on
787
00:38:15,418 --> 00:38:16,711
to the next one
and the next one.
788
00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:18,879
It was no difference
with Brenda.
789
00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:23,676
[Brenda] And so I had
an apartment set up for him,
790
00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:26,387
and the original plan was just,
791
00:38:26,512 --> 00:38:28,889
you know, Paula and me and...
792
00:38:31,392 --> 00:38:32,977
Lance, to live there.
793
00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:36,689
[Peggy] And so Mike and Paula
started a relationship.
794
00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:38,441
I think he thought he was
gonna go down there
795
00:38:38,566 --> 00:38:41,193
and be with her and they were
gonna get married
796
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,862
and live happily ever after.
797
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,573
And then we found out
that Mike was on his way
798
00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:47,992
up to Cedar City.
799
00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:50,619
[Wood] Me and Brenda,
you know, we're scared.
800
00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:53,581
We informed
my parole officer beforehand,
801
00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:57,960
and they said they knew
that something was gonna happen.
802
00:38:58,085 --> 00:38:59,628
And I warned them,
803
00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:02,465
and they didn't
take precautions.
804
00:39:02,923 --> 00:39:04,175
[police] Did he ever
threaten you
805
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,843
during any of these contacts?
806
00:39:06,218 --> 00:39:07,470
[Wood] Not really,
807
00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:09,597
but you could tell that he
808
00:39:09,722 --> 00:39:12,183
had some kind of
problem with me.
809
00:39:12,892 --> 00:39:14,560
[police] How could you tell?
810
00:39:14,685 --> 00:39:16,354
[Wood] He just had
this attitude towards me.
811
00:39:17,229 --> 00:39:19,273
[police] When, or did you
and him ever leave alone?
812
00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:21,400
Did you and him
ever leave alone?
813
00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:23,277
[Wood] 7-Eleven, sometimes.
814
00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:24,862
[click]
815
00:39:24,987 --> 00:39:26,781
[questioner] Can you tell
the court and the jury
816
00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:28,699
when the last time was
that you recall seeing Gordon?
817
00:39:29,825 --> 00:39:32,703
[David] November the 19th, 1988.
818
00:39:33,662 --> 00:39:35,956
We had gone down to Cedar City,
819
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:37,792
to see our boys.
820
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,587
Gordon didn't make
too much money at K-Mart,
821
00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:43,172
and I was always concerned
822
00:39:43,297 --> 00:39:45,132
whether he had
enough money or not.
823
00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:47,093
I asked him to...
824
00:39:47,426 --> 00:39:49,929
you know, how things
were going financially.
825
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:52,098
I tried to do that in private
and those kind of things,
826
00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:54,850
because he hated
to take money from me.
827
00:39:54,975 --> 00:39:56,477
I asked him how he was doing,
828
00:39:56,602 --> 00:39:58,562
and he said,
"Fine, pretty good."
829
00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:01,273
And that's what he always
used to say, "pretty good."
830
00:40:01,899 --> 00:40:03,317
And I always knew that meant,
831
00:40:03,442 --> 00:40:04,693
"not really well."
832
00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:07,863
So I just gave him
a 20 dollar bill.
833
00:40:08,447 --> 00:40:09,657
[engine rumbling]
834
00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:12,535
[Loy] The last time
I spoke to Gordon
835
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:14,578
I was sitting in my car.
836
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,330
And I looked up,
837
00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:18,499
and I saw Gordon
with his backpack on,
838
00:40:18,624 --> 00:40:19,917
and I had a feeling
839
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:21,502
it was the last time
I was gonna see him.
840
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:26,257
[Kathy] Gordon and I
were supposed to get together
841
00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:30,302
to go to dinner, it was
the Tuesday before Thanksgiving.
842
00:40:30,803 --> 00:40:32,847
He had called and said
that he was going to run
843
00:40:32,972 --> 00:40:34,765
to the 7-Eleven
to grab cigarettes
844
00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:36,892
and then he was
going to be over and
845
00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:39,353
we waited,
I think, about two hours.
846
00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:40,896
[ominous music]
847
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:49,321
According to Lance,
this is where they met Gordon.
848
00:40:49,989 --> 00:40:52,575
And Gordon agreed
to give them a ride around.
849
00:40:53,617 --> 00:40:54,952
[police] You'd never met this--
850
00:40:55,077 --> 00:40:56,996
[Wood] I never
met this guy before.
851
00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:58,747
[police] What did he tell you,
did he live there in Cedar?
852
00:40:58,873 --> 00:41:00,166
[Wood] Yeah, he told me
he lived there in Cedar.
853
00:41:00,332 --> 00:41:01,709
Lived with his grandma,
854
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,752
explained about
his family on the way up.
855
00:41:05,212 --> 00:41:07,381
[Wood] Him and Mike
communicated the most
856
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:08,424
during that period of time.
857
00:41:08,549 --> 00:41:10,593
My concentration was the women,
858
00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:12,511
you know, driving
up and down in the cars.
859
00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:14,555
You're trying to
get them pulled over.
860
00:41:16,015 --> 00:41:17,641
And that's what I believe
861
00:41:17,766 --> 00:41:19,143
all of us were
trying to do at that moment.
862
00:41:19,518 --> 00:41:20,603
Uh...
863
00:41:22,688 --> 00:41:24,023
[Dekker] I'm not sure when
864
00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:27,818
we found out
that Gordon was a homosexual,
865
00:41:27,943 --> 00:41:29,945
or that...
866
00:41:30,696 --> 00:41:32,740
these guys
may have been homosexual,
867
00:41:32,865 --> 00:41:35,117
these guys being
Archuleta and Wood.
868
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:37,703
My biggest thing is,
869
00:41:37,828 --> 00:41:40,414
is reflecting back now,
was that he knew Gordon.
870
00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:42,625
You know, he knew whether--
871
00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:44,585
He just didn't
meet him that night.
872
00:41:45,544 --> 00:41:46,795
I mean, it wasn't like,
873
00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:47,922
"Hey, can we go cruising
with you?"
874
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:49,548
or, "Hey, take us cruising."
875
00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:50,925
It was like,
"Hey, get in the car."
876
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:52,760
Like he already
had talked to him.
877
00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:55,763
He'd developed some kind of
rapport with Gordon.
878
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:57,806
[ominous music continues]
879
00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:01,393
They went up to
Canyon Cedar City for what?
880
00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:03,979
They went up there
for one reason.
881
00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,608
They were gonna
have sex with Gordon.
882
00:42:11,111 --> 00:42:13,989
And they ended up going to
a place they call Pussy Hollow.
883
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:17,159
[police] Did the subject
of sex come up?
884
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:20,663
[Wood] Yeah, that's when
he told us he was a homosexual.
885
00:42:20,788 --> 00:42:22,122
[police] Out there by the river?
886
00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:24,542
[Wood] Yeah.
[unintelligible] up there.
887
00:42:25,042 --> 00:42:25,960
[unintelligible]
888
00:42:27,002 --> 00:42:29,588
And I think
it just took off from there,
889
00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:31,006
that, you know,
890
00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:34,885
we're gonna
go work this gay guy over.
891
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,347
[Wood] My first thought was,
892
00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:42,393
there was a time we used
to go to Salt Lake and...
893
00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:45,396
go to the graveyard and roam.
894
00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,023
Steal their jackets, you know,
895
00:42:48,148 --> 00:42:49,775
and [unclear], you know,
896
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:52,278
gay individuals who were
out there we would roam,
897
00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:53,320
we would chase them.
898
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,406
[ominous music]
899
00:42:55,906 --> 00:42:57,866
That was my thought
we were gonna do.
900
00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:01,161
[police] Was there
any argument or anything?
901
00:43:01,287 --> 00:43:04,081
Was there
anybody mad at anybody?
902
00:43:04,498 --> 00:43:05,708
[Archuleta] Not at that point.
903
00:43:05,833 --> 00:43:07,710
You know, everything was okay.
904
00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:11,297
[Wood] I believe, after a while,
905
00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:13,048
nothing happened,
so I told them, let's go.
906
00:43:13,465 --> 00:43:15,134
And that's when Mike
pulled out a knife
907
00:43:15,259 --> 00:43:16,927
and put it to Gordon's throat.
908
00:43:17,052 --> 00:43:18,887
I reached out
and grabbed his elbow.
909
00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:21,599
That's when he kind of shot me
910
00:43:21,724 --> 00:43:23,100
a look, a cold look.
911
00:43:23,517 --> 00:43:25,227
And Gordon took off
at that time.
912
00:43:26,395 --> 00:43:27,688
[Whatcott] He'd broke and run
913
00:43:27,813 --> 00:43:29,356
and they tackled him
and he broke his arm.
914
00:43:29,481 --> 00:43:31,442
[police] What did you do
while he took off running
915
00:43:31,567 --> 00:43:33,193
after this stuff?
916
00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:34,653
[Archuleta] I was just sitting
there, standing there.
917
00:43:34,778 --> 00:43:36,572
Freaking out, [unintelligible]
918
00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:38,240
And when they came back,
919
00:43:38,365 --> 00:43:40,326
that's when Lance
cut his throat,
920
00:43:40,451 --> 00:43:42,745
he cut him,
and I said, "Oh my God."
921
00:43:43,579 --> 00:43:45,581
I didn't think he'd do it,
you know.
922
00:43:46,123 --> 00:43:48,083
It wasn't until
after he caught him
923
00:43:48,208 --> 00:43:50,461
and brought him
back up to the car,
924
00:43:50,586 --> 00:43:51,712
that he cut him again.
925
00:43:52,504 --> 00:43:54,465
And so that's
where you get the X mark.
926
00:43:55,591 --> 00:43:59,219
He was calling out that
he has pain in his shoulders.
927
00:44:00,012 --> 00:44:01,680
His leg hurt.
928
00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:03,891
[Archuleta] Lance kept
telling him,
929
00:44:04,016 --> 00:44:05,225
"You say anything,
930
00:44:07,102 --> 00:44:09,063
we know you got family,"
931
00:44:10,856 --> 00:44:13,108
that he would
kill his family, too.
932
00:44:14,234 --> 00:44:15,152
He, uh...
933
00:44:16,111 --> 00:44:17,821
bent Gordon over the...
934
00:44:18,864 --> 00:44:19,907
the...
935
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:21,325
the hood of the car.
936
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,161
[slam]
937
00:44:24,286 --> 00:44:26,413
[Wood] And the dude said,
"I want you to use a condom."
938
00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:28,707
[police] Who's the dude?
The victim?
939
00:44:28,874 --> 00:44:31,335
[Wood] Yeah,
and he gave Archuleta a condom.
940
00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:34,380
[Archuleta] He pulled out
the rubber.
941
00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:36,048
Handed it to me. He said,
942
00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,677
Gordon said,
"Yeah, it's your game.
943
00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:42,721
Do it to me."
944
00:44:43,097 --> 00:44:44,890
He was asking for it,
I couldn't believe it.
945
00:44:45,015 --> 00:44:46,308
[police] Did he?
946
00:44:46,433 --> 00:44:47,559
'Cause the guy
had his throat cut,
947
00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,144
his arm may be broke,
948
00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:50,979
and banged up
949
00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:52,648
and he's undoubtedly worried,
950
00:44:52,773 --> 00:44:55,150
scared to death that
you're gonna kill him, right?
951
00:44:56,151 --> 00:44:58,529
That don't make sense,
that he's asking you to
952
00:44:59,238 --> 00:45:01,532
have sex with him
at that point, does it?
953
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:03,450
[Archuleta] No, it don't.
954
00:45:04,326 --> 00:45:05,953
[police] Did you
have sex with this guy?
955
00:45:06,078 --> 00:45:07,371
[Archuleta] No, I didn't.
956
00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:08,956
[police] Did Lance?
957
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,666
[Archuleta] I didn't see him,
or anything.
958
00:45:10,791 --> 00:45:13,877
Mike then turned to me
and asked me if I wanted any.
959
00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:16,505
I shook my head, negative.
960
00:45:17,798 --> 00:45:20,718
[Archuleta] There's only
one part that I'm lying about.
961
00:45:21,844 --> 00:45:23,095
[police] And what is it?
962
00:45:24,054 --> 00:45:26,765
[Archuleta] It wasn't
forcible or anything.
963
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,183
He wanted it.
964
00:45:28,308 --> 00:45:30,477
[police] This is straight up,
okay?
965
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:32,938
[Archuleta] I did enter him,
966
00:45:33,105 --> 00:45:34,398
and I backed right out.
967
00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:35,607
I could--
968
00:45:36,316 --> 00:45:38,152
I don't even
know why I did that.
969
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:40,571
I'd never done it
with anybody else before,
970
00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:41,989
not even a woman.
971
00:45:44,158 --> 00:45:46,869
I don't get off on
getting down on guys.
972
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,163
[unsettling music]
973
00:45:54,042 --> 00:45:55,794
[Anderson] When Gordon got put
in the trunk of that car,
974
00:45:55,919 --> 00:45:58,422
what did he think
was gonna happen to him next?
975
00:46:00,966 --> 00:46:03,886
Exactly what I think we all
knew was gonna happen next.
976
00:46:05,512 --> 00:46:07,431
He knew he was... gonna die.
977
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:10,184
[engine starts]
978
00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:12,394
[heavy breathing]
979
00:46:12,936 --> 00:46:15,439
[Anderson] They drove
from Cedar Canyon
980
00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:16,982
to mile marker 138,
981
00:46:17,149 --> 00:46:19,276
so that's got to be
70, 80 miles,
982
00:46:19,401 --> 00:46:22,529
It's got to be over an hour
in the trunk of a car.
983
00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:26,366
[Anderson] That hour or so,
984
00:46:26,492 --> 00:46:27,785
as they drove north,
985
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:29,077
is the hardest part
of the story for me.
986
00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:31,288
Knowing that
he was in that trunk,
987
00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:34,082
having been raped,
with broken bones,
988
00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:36,877
bleeding and gagged
and in chains.
989
00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:41,423
Was he praying, was he weeping,
990
00:46:41,548 --> 00:46:43,926
was he calling out
for his mother?
991
00:46:44,343 --> 00:46:45,010
[click]
992
00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:47,346
[Nancy] Well,
he didn't like elevators.
993
00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:50,641
He would use the stairs
before he would use an elevator.
994
00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:52,559
He didn't like to be
995
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:55,145
closed in a room
without a window in it.
996
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,690
He didn't like to have
anything held over his head.
997
00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:03,070
Just, he didn't like to be where
he felt he couldn't get out.
998
00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:05,697
[police] Were you
talking to him at all?
999
00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:07,366
[Archuleta] Yes.
1000
00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:09,993
Yelled back there,
and asked him if he was okay.
1001
00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:12,204
Said, "Yeah, I'm alright."
1002
00:47:12,621 --> 00:47:14,706
All I know is Archuleta
was yelling back there,
1003
00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:15,833
"Don't break the lights,
1004
00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:17,709
don't mess with the lights."
1005
00:47:17,876 --> 00:47:19,169
Stuff like that.
1006
00:47:19,294 --> 00:47:20,629
Church was just saying,
"Okay, okay."
1007
00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:22,297
And how Lance told it,
1008
00:47:22,422 --> 00:47:23,757
saying we're gonna
go up to Bountiful,
1009
00:47:23,882 --> 00:47:25,133
where he is from.
1010
00:47:25,259 --> 00:47:27,302
They were gonna
drive Gordon's car off
1011
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:29,847
this cliff.
1012
00:47:29,972 --> 00:47:30,973
[tense music]
1013
00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:32,850
[Archuleta] Lance
kept saying, "Well,
1014
00:47:33,725 --> 00:47:35,602
if we just
leave him in the trunk
1015
00:47:35,727 --> 00:47:36,812
someone can pick him up,"
1016
00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:39,022
so we went to Dead Man's Point
1017
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,525
to let the car go off the edge.
1018
00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:44,278
They'll never find it there.
1019
00:47:45,445 --> 00:47:46,905
[police] What'd you say to that?
1020
00:47:47,072 --> 00:47:48,615
[Archuleta] Said,
"You're crazy, man."
1021
00:47:48,740 --> 00:47:51,660
We're both in a lot of trouble
right now as it is.
1022
00:47:51,785 --> 00:47:53,245
I told him, just--
1023
00:47:53,912 --> 00:47:57,541
"Leave the car, let the dude go,
and let's get out of here."
1024
00:47:58,250 --> 00:48:00,210
Lance kept saying,
"He's gonna rat on us,
1025
00:48:00,335 --> 00:48:01,879
he's gonna rat on us."
1026
00:48:04,673 --> 00:48:06,592
[Dekker] He said
they got driving along,
1027
00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:08,594
he says they got up north,
1028
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,888
to the Dog Valley off-ramp.
1029
00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:14,099
[Wood] Archuleta
pulled off right here.
1030
00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,184
[police] Did he say
anything at this point?
1031
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:17,102
He just pulled off?
1032
00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:18,395
[Wood] Yeah.
1033
00:48:19,104 --> 00:48:20,522
[Dekker] They went
underneath the freeway
1034
00:48:20,647 --> 00:48:23,275
and went to the west,
and north a little ways,
1035
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,402
and stopped
in the middle of the roadway.
1036
00:48:25,861 --> 00:48:26,987
[tense music]
1037
00:48:30,616 --> 00:48:32,451
[Phillips] You know,
Gordon just terrified,
1038
00:48:32,576 --> 00:48:34,745
scared to death,
he'd already been through
1039
00:48:35,454 --> 00:48:38,081
a beating or two, and a rape.
1040
00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:39,374
And...
1041
00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:41,919
all in all, they were
gonna kill him here
1042
00:48:42,044 --> 00:48:43,629
or whatever, and...
1043
00:48:43,795 --> 00:48:46,673
they were trying to assure him
everything was gonna be okay.
1044
00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:49,217
I think,
one of the first things,
1045
00:48:49,343 --> 00:48:51,053
when they got him
out of the trunk of the car,
1046
00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:53,722
was an attempt by Archuleta
1047
00:48:54,139 --> 00:48:55,515
to break his neck.
1048
00:48:57,225 --> 00:48:59,019
[Wood] I heard the guy fall.
1049
00:49:00,896 --> 00:49:02,314
And Archuleta's talking to him,
1050
00:49:02,481 --> 00:49:03,565
[unclear]
1051
00:49:03,982 --> 00:49:06,401
I guess he was crying,
saying, "Please," you know.
1052
00:49:06,526 --> 00:49:09,321
[Masner] He said that
they took battery cable
1053
00:49:09,446 --> 00:49:12,199
and they tried
to jump-start him.
1054
00:49:13,659 --> 00:49:15,118
[Dekker] A couple of
real geniuses,
1055
00:49:15,243 --> 00:49:16,495
I don't know what
they're thinking about.
1056
00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:18,872
They're gonna
electrocute him or whatever.
1057
00:49:19,581 --> 00:49:21,500
[police] Tell me
how he hooked him up.
1058
00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:24,419
[Wood] Clipped them on
and said, "Go for it."
1059
00:49:25,629 --> 00:49:28,757
I don't know whether they were
feeding off of one another, like
1060
00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:30,634
"Look what I've done."
1061
00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:33,595
"I'm gonna do something worse.
1062
00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:35,514
Something more horrific."
1063
00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:37,140
What he did,
1064
00:49:37,265 --> 00:49:38,725
it didn't work, I guess,
1065
00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:40,102
because he reached in the trunk
1066
00:49:40,227 --> 00:49:41,853
and grabbed the tire iron
1067
00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:43,605
out of the trunk
1068
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:45,399
and started beating
the guy on the head,
1069
00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:46,733
I don't know how many times.
1070
00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:49,152
Then, I guess that didn't work,
1071
00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:52,030
'cause he reached in
and grabbed the jack,
1072
00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:54,491
what you jack up the car with
1073
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:56,201
and brought that out.
1074
00:49:56,368 --> 00:49:59,997
He's bringing it
to full swing on that,
1075
00:50:00,372 --> 00:50:02,874
Just like you would
swing an axe or something.
1076
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,834
[thud]
1077
00:50:03,959 --> 00:50:04,793
[Masner] It was just...
1078
00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:06,545
a lot of blood.
1079
00:50:07,129 --> 00:50:09,047
Really a lot of blood on there.
1080
00:50:09,214 --> 00:50:10,549
[unsettling music]
1081
00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:11,633
[thud]
1082
00:50:14,553 --> 00:50:15,429
[thud]
1083
00:50:16,596 --> 00:50:18,432
[Anderson] You
didn't beat Gordon?
1084
00:50:19,182 --> 00:50:20,142
I didn't beat Gordon.
1085
00:50:20,267 --> 00:50:21,351
Did you punch him?
1086
00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:24,187
-I didn't punch him.
-Did you kick him?
1087
00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:26,273
I didn't kick him.
1088
00:50:26,398 --> 00:50:27,941
And you're saying
that you stayed in the car
1089
00:50:28,066 --> 00:50:30,152
while Mike beat Gordon to death?
1090
00:50:31,611 --> 00:50:32,612
Yeah.
1091
00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:35,741
[Wood] I didn't even hear when
he got him out of the trunk
1092
00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,951
I just heard a crack,
and I looked up.
1093
00:50:38,410 --> 00:50:41,163
Wham, hit him in
the back of the head with a
1094
00:50:42,998 --> 00:50:44,916
He looked at me all wild
1095
00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:46,460
and took a swing at me.
1096
00:50:47,502 --> 00:50:49,546
And I got out of the car
1097
00:50:49,963 --> 00:50:52,299
and I think what he'd done
is he took the...
1098
00:50:52,924 --> 00:50:55,469
tire iron and shoved it
up the guy's anal.
1099
00:50:58,597 --> 00:50:59,431
It was so brutal.
1100
00:50:59,556 --> 00:51:01,808
It was so ugly, it was so mean,
1101
00:51:01,933 --> 00:51:02,976
and I think, what--
1102
00:51:03,101 --> 00:51:05,604
What causes somebody to do that?
1103
00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:06,521
[unsettling music]
1104
00:51:07,272 --> 00:51:09,983
[Phillips] But they dragged him
off in this direction here.
1105
00:51:10,442 --> 00:51:12,486
And we found him up here under
1106
00:51:13,111 --> 00:51:14,237
a tree.
1107
00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:18,617
Probably...
1108
00:51:18,784 --> 00:51:20,327
could have been
any one of these trees,
1109
00:51:20,452 --> 00:51:23,163
but he was kinda tucked up under
1110
00:51:23,288 --> 00:51:26,249
the boughs of
one of these cedar trees
1111
00:51:27,042 --> 00:51:28,627
and somewhat concealed.
1112
00:51:29,127 --> 00:51:32,255
You know, and if,
in reality, if...
1113
00:51:32,881 --> 00:51:36,343
Wood hadn't
buckled his knees and got
1114
00:51:36,885 --> 00:51:38,428
trying to cover his ass,
1115
00:51:38,845 --> 00:51:40,055
it's hard to say
1116
00:51:40,472 --> 00:51:42,140
how long it
would have been before
1117
00:51:42,307 --> 00:51:44,601
Gordon's body
would have been discovered here.
1118
00:51:48,063 --> 00:51:49,272
[music fades]
1119
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,901
Mike and Lance
drove Gordon's car
1120
00:51:53,026 --> 00:51:54,319
to Salt Lake City.
1121
00:51:54,444 --> 00:51:55,904
[newscaster] Millard
County deputies
1122
00:51:56,029 --> 00:51:57,614
searched the hillside
to find more clues,
1123
00:51:57,739 --> 00:51:59,449
but two key pieces of evidence
1124
00:51:59,574 --> 00:52:02,828
were found 175 miles north
in Salt Lake county.
1125
00:52:02,994 --> 00:52:05,372
And then Mike left this...
1126
00:52:05,914 --> 00:52:07,582
his murder victim's car
1127
00:52:07,707 --> 00:52:10,627
in the lot at his brother's
apartment complex.
1128
00:52:10,752 --> 00:52:12,462
[newscaster] Earlier today,
officers picked up
1129
00:52:12,587 --> 00:52:14,339
a pair of
blood-covered men's Levi's
1130
00:52:14,506 --> 00:52:16,341
on I15 at 45th South,
1131
00:52:16,508 --> 00:52:20,262
and impounded this 1978
Ford T-Bird in West Valley City.
1132
00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:21,972
Investigators
found blood smeared
1133
00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:24,683
in the back seat
and trunk of the car.
1134
00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:25,976
So Mike and Lance went on
1135
00:52:26,101 --> 00:52:27,686
a weird series of misadventures
1136
00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:30,689
as they kind of hitch-hiked
their way back to Cedar City.
1137
00:52:31,314 --> 00:52:33,066
Mike and Lance
ended up in Salem,
1138
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,485
at Mike's home,
1139
00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:38,405
and his father Amos
made them eggs.
1140
00:52:38,530 --> 00:52:40,198
Mike went down
into his childhood bedroom,
1141
00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:42,951
which is where
he left Gordon's watch.
1142
00:52:43,076 --> 00:52:44,703
So again, he left Gordon's car
1143
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:46,371
at his brother's
apartment complex,
1144
00:52:46,538 --> 00:52:48,623
he left Gordon's watch
in his parents' home,
1145
00:52:48,748 --> 00:52:50,584
for the police to go
gather this evidence later,
1146
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,919
and they sat with his father
and ate eggs.
1147
00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:56,798
When they got back
to the apartment,
1148
00:52:57,382 --> 00:53:00,760
Mike had sex with his girlfriend
and fell asleep.
1149
00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:03,221
Lance went and talked
to his friend Tony,
1150
00:53:03,555 --> 00:53:06,057
and came up with
the plan to turn himself in,
1151
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:08,685
so he went down
to the same 7-Eleven
1152
00:53:08,810 --> 00:53:10,937
where he had
picked up Gordon initially,
1153
00:53:11,313 --> 00:53:12,898
and called his parole officer,
1154
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,317
John Grath, and said,
"I just witnessed a murder,
1155
00:53:15,442 --> 00:53:16,484
please come pick me up."
1156
00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:20,071
Before John arrived,
Lance threw away Gordon's wallet
1157
00:53:20,238 --> 00:53:23,200
out of his own pocket,
right there at the gas station.
1158
00:53:23,909 --> 00:53:24,784
[reflective music]
1159
00:53:25,619 --> 00:53:28,371
[Dekker] But I believe that
it was a hate crime, simply,
1160
00:53:29,414 --> 00:53:31,583
because of
the way he was treated,
1161
00:53:31,708 --> 00:53:33,251
the raping,
1162
00:53:33,418 --> 00:53:36,421
the breaking of arms
and the jaws and the
1163
00:53:36,588 --> 00:53:38,298
wrapping him in chains...
1164
00:53:39,424 --> 00:53:40,550
I'm--
1165
00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:45,680
I think it started out
as a hate crime.
1166
00:53:45,805 --> 00:53:47,557
I wouldn't know if the murder
would be a hate crime,
1167
00:53:47,682 --> 00:53:49,434
but I believe that
it started out to be hate,
1168
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:51,311
'cause of who he was.
1169
00:53:52,854 --> 00:53:56,107
[Kathy] Wood and Archuleta
targeted Gordon,
1170
00:53:56,274 --> 00:53:58,526
merely for the fact
that he was gay,
1171
00:53:58,652 --> 00:54:01,571
and they were they were out
to teach the...
1172
00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:04,449
"the faggot" a lesson,
1173
00:54:04,616 --> 00:54:06,493
and that's not
a word that I use lightly.
1174
00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:09,871
You know, I always believed
that Archuleta had
1175
00:54:09,996 --> 00:54:11,998
homosexual tendencies,
1176
00:54:12,123 --> 00:54:14,042
and rage about that.
1177
00:54:14,167 --> 00:54:17,545
He chose the manner of death,
I think, to send a message.
1178
00:54:17,963 --> 00:54:20,048
[Peggy] Oh, well,
my brother Michael does not
1179
00:54:20,173 --> 00:54:22,092
consider the crime a hate crime.
1180
00:54:22,509 --> 00:54:25,387
He considers it
more of a crime of
1181
00:54:25,512 --> 00:54:27,305
excessive drug and alcohol,
1182
00:54:27,472 --> 00:54:30,517
and a whole lifetime
of making bad choices.
1183
00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:32,560
But he just really felt like
1184
00:54:32,686 --> 00:54:34,521
it was a night
that got out of control.
1185
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,773
It just got away from him.
1186
00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:39,025
[music fades]
1187
00:54:42,988 --> 00:54:44,155
[Anderson] As
part of my research
1188
00:54:44,322 --> 00:54:45,532
into the Gordon Church case,
1189
00:54:45,657 --> 00:54:47,158
I put in
a request with the police,
1190
00:54:47,325 --> 00:54:48,827
and was given permission to
1191
00:54:48,952 --> 00:54:50,704
look at some of
their gathered evidence,
1192
00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:52,706
including
those crime scene photos.
1193
00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:56,543
Turning the pages
in that photo book,
1194
00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:58,795
they start off relatively...
1195
00:55:00,463 --> 00:55:01,631
tame.
1196
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:06,261
They're showing the perimeter
of the crime scene.
1197
00:55:06,636 --> 00:55:10,473
There's dirt and sticks
and mud and snow and frost.
1198
00:55:11,016 --> 00:55:12,892
But then you start
seeing the blood,
1199
00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:15,645
you start seeing
the pieces of bone.
1200
00:55:24,863 --> 00:55:26,656
[Anderson] Look at
the blood. God.
1201
00:55:28,783 --> 00:55:30,410
There's the tire iron.
1202
00:55:37,959 --> 00:55:39,669
[Anderson] When you see
the pictures of the body,
1203
00:55:40,503 --> 00:55:42,339
I would not
recommend that to anybody.
1204
00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:44,507
Those images
will be in my brain forever.
1205
00:55:45,216 --> 00:55:47,010
It's heart-breaking.
1206
00:55:57,562 --> 00:55:59,439
There's something that just...
1207
00:56:01,232 --> 00:56:02,901
[Anderson] It's
one thing to read the story,
1208
00:56:03,068 --> 00:56:04,361
but to see it,
1209
00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:07,113
to see it, hurts.
1210
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:10,825
[unsettling music]
1211
00:56:11,659 --> 00:56:13,370
Mike had a violent
1212
00:56:16,414 --> 00:56:17,874
way of dealing with things.
1213
00:56:18,833 --> 00:56:21,086
Maybe dealing
with his own demons.
1214
00:56:21,503 --> 00:56:24,422
If it's true that he knew Gordon
1215
00:56:24,589 --> 00:56:25,840
prior to that,
1216
00:56:27,092 --> 00:56:28,218
I believe now
1217
00:56:28,343 --> 00:56:29,719
it's Mike's doing.
1218
00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:33,390
He's gonna have to
answer that question
1219
00:56:33,515 --> 00:56:34,974
as to why Gordon died.
1220
00:56:36,976 --> 00:56:38,895
[police] Why
was this guy killed?
1221
00:56:40,063 --> 00:56:43,358
[Archuleta] I don't know
why he was killed.
1222
00:56:43,775 --> 00:56:45,860
I do not know why.
1223
00:56:46,277 --> 00:56:47,737
So much went on that night,
1224
00:56:47,862 --> 00:56:49,823
it's hard
to remember everything.
1225
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,493
[Wood] I was weak.
1226
00:56:56,204 --> 00:56:57,956
But I gotta take responsibility
1227
00:56:58,081 --> 00:57:01,084
for actually causing his death
as much as Mike killed him.
1228
00:57:03,169 --> 00:57:05,004
In Provo today,
testimony wrapped up
1229
00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:06,840
in the trial of
Michael Archuleta,
1230
00:57:06,965 --> 00:57:09,509
accused of brutally killing
a Central Utah man.
1231
00:57:09,926 --> 00:57:12,178
[Whatcott] I'd been
to several trials at that time,
1232
00:57:12,303 --> 00:57:14,764
but there's nothing
like a homicide trial.
1233
00:57:14,889 --> 00:57:17,434
They are a total
different animal.
1234
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,519
[rhythmic tense music]
1235
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:21,438
[Stella] It was ugly.
1236
00:57:21,563 --> 00:57:23,565
It did affect our family.
1237
00:57:24,149 --> 00:57:27,485
And it affected
the extended family,
1238
00:57:27,652 --> 00:57:30,196
'cause some of them
didn't want to claim him.
1239
00:57:30,905 --> 00:57:32,574
They got on TV
and says, "Well, you know,
1240
00:57:32,699 --> 00:57:33,992
he's not even related to us,
1241
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:36,369
he's adopted,
so we don't even know him."
1242
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:38,705
And that was hurtful.
1243
00:57:41,249 --> 00:57:42,709
[Dekker] And Archuleta,
1244
00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:45,462
he tried to dress up in a suit
and a tie and look sharp,
1245
00:57:45,587 --> 00:57:49,132
but he still had his tattoos
showing above his shirt collar,
1246
00:57:49,257 --> 00:57:52,427
and just kinda hard
for him to hide
1247
00:57:52,552 --> 00:57:55,722
that he was a hardened man.
1248
00:57:57,265 --> 00:57:58,766
[Stella] He was this big, husky,
1249
00:57:58,892 --> 00:58:01,227
good-looking guy
with all this curly hair.
1250
00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:04,230
And a little bit
on the cocky side.
1251
00:58:05,732 --> 00:58:07,233
And he gave me the thumbs up,
like,
1252
00:58:07,358 --> 00:58:08,651
"It's gonna be okay, Mom."
1253
00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:11,654
But deep down I knew
that this was a horrible thing,
1254
00:58:11,779 --> 00:58:13,448
and it was not gonna be okay.
1255
00:58:14,032 --> 00:58:16,493
[Loy] They took me into
the courtroom, swore me in,
1256
00:58:17,035 --> 00:58:17,827
and...
1257
00:58:18,286 --> 00:58:20,830
they had me testify
that Gordon was gay.
1258
00:58:21,915 --> 00:58:23,833
Then, they actually
1259
00:58:24,417 --> 00:58:25,543
said that was enough.
1260
00:58:25,668 --> 00:58:27,253
And they had me
get up and leave.
1261
00:58:28,379 --> 00:58:29,881
And as I was walking out,
1262
00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:32,842
they brought Archuleta
out of the courtroom.
1263
00:58:33,468 --> 00:58:35,929
And he grinned at me.
1264
00:58:37,055 --> 00:58:38,723
And I was so mad
1265
00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:41,935
that I just wanted to slap
the smile off his face.
1266
00:58:44,521 --> 00:58:45,855
[Whatcott] Dave and Nancy,
1267
00:58:46,689 --> 00:58:48,566
they never missed a hearing,
1268
00:58:48,691 --> 00:58:50,276
they never missed
a minute of the court.
1269
00:58:50,401 --> 00:58:51,945
They was there the whole time.
1270
00:58:52,070 --> 00:58:53,780
And I know Nancy,
1271
00:58:54,322 --> 00:58:57,158
when she took the stand,
she stared at both of them,
1272
00:58:58,117 --> 00:59:00,245
each individual,
when she was on the stand,
1273
00:59:00,411 --> 00:59:01,371
of Archuleta.
1274
00:59:01,496 --> 00:59:03,039
Archuleta finally looked down.
1275
00:59:03,498 --> 00:59:06,834
He showed just a little bit
of remorse for her.
1276
00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:08,753
Wood never did.
1277
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,797
Never would blink an eye.
1278
00:59:11,172 --> 00:59:12,215
[tense music]
1279
00:59:12,340 --> 00:59:14,634
[Brenda] I testified
at Michael's trial.
1280
00:59:14,759 --> 00:59:17,887
And even at the trials,
he was actually...
1281
00:59:18,763 --> 00:59:20,139
more friendly.
1282
00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,435
He would give me
eye contact and smile,
1283
00:59:24,852 --> 00:59:26,354
where Lance wouldn't,
1284
00:59:26,479 --> 00:59:27,564
and we were
1285
00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:30,984
engaged still, at that time.
1286
00:59:32,151 --> 00:59:34,404
[Whatcott] Archuleta knew that
he was in for the long haul.
1287
00:59:34,779 --> 00:59:37,574
I think he knew that he had
1288
00:59:37,699 --> 00:59:40,159
really screwed up bad.
1289
00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:41,661
[rhythmic tense music]
1290
00:59:43,496 --> 00:59:45,665
[Dekker] Mike Archuleta's trial
1291
00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:47,959
went very well, I thought.
1292
00:59:48,126 --> 00:59:49,335
I felt confident
1293
00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:52,297
in what was presented,
and how it was presented.
1294
00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:55,466
I mean, it just
went through the whole
1295
00:59:55,633 --> 00:59:56,801
episode here,
1296
00:59:57,176 --> 00:59:59,429
showing
both of their participations,
1297
00:59:59,554 --> 01:00:01,014
who was doing what.
1298
01:00:02,473 --> 01:00:04,892
[Peggy] And I didn't feel
like our attorneys at the time
1299
01:00:05,018 --> 01:00:06,936
did a real good job of
1300
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:08,938
defending Michael.
1301
01:00:10,356 --> 01:00:11,941
[Loy] They were
trying to get him off
1302
01:00:12,066 --> 01:00:15,778
with the fact that
Archuleta had been
1303
01:00:15,903 --> 01:00:18,489
supposedly raped
by somebody that was gay,
1304
01:00:18,656 --> 01:00:19,866
or something like that,
1305
01:00:19,991 --> 01:00:21,701
or molested by
somebody that was gay.
1306
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,745
[Anderson] Do you think race
played a factor as well?
1307
01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:25,413
Very possibly, mmh-hm.
1308
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:29,042
One's last name
was Archuleta and one wasn't.
1309
01:00:29,584 --> 01:00:31,085
[tense music]
1310
01:00:31,919 --> 01:00:33,296
[Burns] I am incensed
1311
01:00:33,755 --> 01:00:35,089
when people use
1312
01:00:35,465 --> 01:00:38,259
the fact that "I'm a minority,"
1313
01:00:38,384 --> 01:00:40,345
or "I had a rough go."
1314
01:00:40,762 --> 01:00:42,513
A lot of people
had a rough go in life,
1315
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,349
and they do not
1316
01:00:44,474 --> 01:00:46,726
torture, rape and kill
1317
01:00:46,851 --> 01:00:49,896
a kind and gentle
1318
01:00:50,313 --> 01:00:51,981
young gay man.
1319
01:00:52,690 --> 01:00:54,067
[news fanfare]
1320
01:00:54,942 --> 01:00:56,235
Good evening. I'm Michelle Kean.
1321
01:00:56,361 --> 01:00:57,779
And I'm Bob Evans.
1322
01:00:57,904 --> 01:00:59,489
Tomorrow, the jury begins
deliberations
1323
01:00:59,614 --> 01:01:02,450
in the Michael Archuleta
murder trial in Provo.
1324
01:01:02,575 --> 01:01:03,868
[Peggy] You know, they said
1325
01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:05,912
they had no idea
how long it was going to be,
1326
01:01:06,371 --> 01:01:07,372
and...
1327
01:01:07,538 --> 01:01:09,165
we came home,
1328
01:01:09,290 --> 01:01:11,918
and I got a phone call that
the jury had reached a verdict.
1329
01:01:12,418 --> 01:01:13,336
[tense music]
1330
01:01:14,295 --> 01:01:17,006
[Stella] And when I heard he'd
been found guilty, I just...
1331
01:01:17,924 --> 01:01:19,467
I don't know how I got to bed,
1332
01:01:19,592 --> 01:01:20,760
somebody put me there,
1333
01:01:20,885 --> 01:01:22,053
but I didn't get there
on my own power.
1334
01:01:22,553 --> 01:01:24,514
I don't know if I passed out
or what happened,
1335
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:25,973
but the shock was...
1336
01:01:26,891 --> 01:01:28,393
'Cause it was so final.
1337
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:29,936
It was so final.
1338
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,147
But...
1339
01:01:33,731 --> 01:01:34,732
what could you do?
1340
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,110
Condemned killer
Michael Archuleta
1341
01:01:37,235 --> 01:01:39,070
now has an execution date.
1342
01:01:39,195 --> 01:01:40,947
Fourth District Judge
George Baliff
1343
01:01:41,072 --> 01:01:42,490
signed Archuleta's
death warrant today,
1344
01:01:42,615 --> 01:01:45,284
scheduling him
to die by lethal injection
1345
01:01:45,410 --> 01:01:46,661
on February 19th.
1346
01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:48,579
[Burns] It's quiet joy
1347
01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:50,373
and satisfaction when
1348
01:01:51,165 --> 01:01:52,834
Archuleta
was sentenced to death.
1349
01:01:52,959 --> 01:01:54,877
I thought it was
the appropriate sentence.
1350
01:01:55,336 --> 01:01:58,881
[Kathy] For me, the fact that
he was going to be put to death,
1351
01:02:00,007 --> 01:02:01,467
seemed like justice.
1352
01:02:02,969 --> 01:02:04,804
Do you celebrate? No.
1353
01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:08,057
Are you happy it's over with?
1354
01:02:08,182 --> 01:02:10,184
Definitely happy it's over with.
1355
01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:13,062
And, you know,
I always recognized
1356
01:02:13,187 --> 01:02:15,356
that my brother's crime
was a horrible thing.
1357
01:02:16,107 --> 01:02:18,860
And maybe it's selfish of me,
1358
01:02:18,985 --> 01:02:22,405
but I really just don't
want to see him executed.
1359
01:02:25,908 --> 01:02:29,412
Do you believe Mike Archuleta
deserves the death penalty?
1360
01:02:33,416 --> 01:02:34,459
I believe so.
1361
01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:35,418
[Anderson] Why?
1362
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,925
Because it was a ruthless
1363
01:02:43,468 --> 01:02:44,427
murder.
1364
01:02:45,011 --> 01:02:46,804
I believe everyone's
entitled to forgiveness.
1365
01:02:46,929 --> 01:02:48,806
I believe everyone has
1366
01:02:48,973 --> 01:02:50,516
the right
to be forgiven of things,
1367
01:02:50,641 --> 01:02:53,519
but I also believe that
there is a right for justice.
1368
01:02:54,562 --> 01:02:55,438
[tense music]
1369
01:02:59,025 --> 01:03:00,151
[Brenda] Lance's trial
1370
01:03:00,318 --> 01:03:03,362
happened in February of '90.
1371
01:03:03,488 --> 01:03:07,742
It was like the JonBenét Ramsey
of the time, you know?
1372
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,660
It was huge.
1373
01:03:10,286 --> 01:03:12,121
Everybody in the state of Utah,
1374
01:03:12,246 --> 01:03:14,123
people in Idaho knew about it.
1375
01:03:14,248 --> 01:03:15,541
It was actually--
1376
01:03:15,666 --> 01:03:16,834
I believed that I wasn't...
1377
01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:18,586
going to lose, you know?
1378
01:03:18,711 --> 01:03:20,588
I believed that
I was gonna actually
1379
01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:22,465
witness that trial.
1380
01:03:23,049 --> 01:03:24,425
[Brenda] The courtroom was full,
1381
01:03:24,884 --> 01:03:26,219
all the time.
1382
01:03:27,136 --> 01:03:28,888
Yeah, he didn't
even cut his hair,
1383
01:03:29,013 --> 01:03:33,810
and I had girls chanting
for Lance, you know?
1384
01:03:34,477 --> 01:03:35,561
Now...
1385
01:03:36,395 --> 01:03:37,647
as a mother,
1386
01:03:37,772 --> 01:03:39,440
I can't even imagine
1387
01:03:42,151 --> 01:03:43,361
the pain and the horror
1388
01:03:43,528 --> 01:03:45,988
that I brought
to the Church family
1389
01:03:46,113 --> 01:03:48,115
by doing that.
1390
01:03:48,783 --> 01:03:50,243
[tense music]
1391
01:03:51,369 --> 01:03:54,831
My trial didn't go
as well as I thought it'd go.
1392
01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:56,249
You know?
1393
01:03:56,958 --> 01:03:58,793
He told me that
he was not supposed
1394
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:00,962
to show any emotion at all.
1395
01:04:02,505 --> 01:04:04,298
So he was cold.
1396
01:04:05,216 --> 01:04:07,718
There's a feeling
that you get when you
1397
01:04:08,261 --> 01:04:09,303
know when you're screwed,
1398
01:04:09,428 --> 01:04:11,472
when you know you're kind of--
1399
01:04:11,597 --> 01:04:14,267
there is no hope
in that situation.
1400
01:04:15,268 --> 01:04:17,979
And I stayed the whole time.
1401
01:04:18,729 --> 01:04:20,898
Even after I gave my testimony,
1402
01:04:21,023 --> 01:04:23,067
I was not let back
into the courtroom.
1403
01:04:23,192 --> 01:04:25,570
I was considered
a hostile witness.
1404
01:04:25,695 --> 01:04:27,029
Because I was under such
1405
01:04:27,154 --> 01:04:29,866
the impression
that Lance was innocent.
1406
01:04:30,992 --> 01:04:33,035
It was almost as if
1407
01:04:35,288 --> 01:04:37,039
they were the enemy.
1408
01:04:37,748 --> 01:04:38,916
[Wood] And, you know,
1409
01:04:39,083 --> 01:04:40,084
I think the biggest thing
1410
01:04:40,209 --> 01:04:41,794
was in the closing arguments.
1411
01:04:41,919 --> 01:04:43,296
My attorney goes,
1412
01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:47,842
"Lance was not a bystander,
1413
01:04:47,967 --> 01:04:49,385
Lance is a liar."
1414
01:04:50,803 --> 01:04:52,346
And that was my own attorney,
1415
01:04:52,471 --> 01:04:55,558
stating that to the jury,
after I testified.
1416
01:04:57,059 --> 01:04:59,145
[Brenda] And when
the verdict was read,
1417
01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:00,980
there was cheering,
1418
01:05:01,606 --> 01:05:03,524
and there was booing.
1419
01:05:04,692 --> 01:05:08,154
For me, I was praying.
1420
01:05:10,072 --> 01:05:12,491
[attorney] Mr. Wood's continued
1421
01:05:13,034 --> 01:05:14,785
changing of his stories
1422
01:05:15,578 --> 01:05:17,705
was his effort
to avoid responsibility
1423
01:05:17,830 --> 01:05:19,457
for a crime he participated in.
1424
01:05:19,790 --> 01:05:21,334
And I think the jury saw that.
1425
01:05:22,627 --> 01:05:24,587
[Dekker] He'd
already been found guilty,
1426
01:05:24,712 --> 01:05:25,963
the same as Archuleta,
1427
01:05:26,088 --> 01:05:28,466
but now the sentencing
phase kicked in
1428
01:05:28,883 --> 01:05:30,426
and Lance's attorney
1429
01:05:30,843 --> 01:05:33,930
and his family brought in
just a bunch of people
1430
01:05:34,055 --> 01:05:35,932
to tell you
how good a guy Lance was.
1431
01:05:36,724 --> 01:05:38,684
[Stella] According to what
they said and everything,
1432
01:05:38,809 --> 01:05:41,062
he was a prize, man.
1433
01:05:41,187 --> 01:05:43,064
That guy was a number one kid.
1434
01:05:43,648 --> 01:05:46,108
But according to what happened,
I don't think he was.
1435
01:05:46,233 --> 01:05:47,818
I think he had the same
problems as Michael did,
1436
01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:49,362
but they made him look like
1437
01:05:49,487 --> 01:05:51,614
a sterling scholar
and the whole bit.
1438
01:05:53,074 --> 01:05:54,325
You know, they brought a lot of
1439
01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:57,745
religious background
into it, you know.
1440
01:05:58,287 --> 01:06:00,831
Well, they took in
his baptismal thing,
1441
01:06:01,499 --> 01:06:03,793
and they brought in
all his Scout
1442
01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:05,628
merit badges.
1443
01:06:06,045 --> 01:06:08,047
[Dekker] And they did
a pretty good job
1444
01:06:09,006 --> 01:06:10,299
making an angel out of this guy.
1445
01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:11,759
Well, he wasn't an angel.
1446
01:06:12,426 --> 01:06:14,220
I wanted to stand up
and yell at the jury
1447
01:06:14,345 --> 01:06:17,139
and say, "This isn't
the guy that did this!"
1448
01:06:17,598 --> 01:06:18,474
And so
1449
01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:20,810
he got off with...
1450
01:06:20,935 --> 01:06:22,436
with life.
1451
01:06:22,979 --> 01:06:24,063
[reflective music]
1452
01:06:28,609 --> 01:06:30,111
[Stella] I mean,
I just felt if two people
1453
01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:31,946
are involved in the same crime,
1454
01:06:32,321 --> 01:06:34,156
they should both have
1455
01:06:34,865 --> 01:06:36,242
the same punishment.
1456
01:06:36,826 --> 01:06:38,160
[Dekker] In my opinion,
1457
01:06:38,285 --> 01:06:39,870
both of them
deserved the death penalty.
1458
01:06:40,037 --> 01:06:42,623
Archuleta got it.
Lance Wood didn't.
1459
01:06:43,791 --> 01:06:44,875
Lance Wood should have.
1460
01:06:45,459 --> 01:06:46,752
I believe that some aspects,
1461
01:06:46,877 --> 01:06:49,005
like I said, I deserve time,
1462
01:06:49,422 --> 01:06:51,173
but what do I deserve time for?
1463
01:06:53,217 --> 01:06:54,760
[Burns] He didn't, because,
1464
01:06:54,885 --> 01:06:56,887
I think, as the facts shook out,
1465
01:06:57,013 --> 01:06:59,724
for lack of a better analogy,
he didn't pull the trigger.
1466
01:06:59,890 --> 01:07:02,768
He didn't impale Gordon,
he didn't rape Gordon.
1467
01:07:02,893 --> 01:07:05,688
You know, I guess a lot of Nazis
1468
01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:07,898
have that same defense
1469
01:07:08,024 --> 01:07:10,192
when six million
Jews were killed.
1470
01:07:10,317 --> 01:07:11,902
"Well, you know,
I was following orders,"
1471
01:07:12,028 --> 01:07:13,612
"I was afraid for my own life,"
1472
01:07:13,738 --> 01:07:17,450
or, "I just did what
I thought I should do."
1473
01:07:18,534 --> 01:07:20,578
[Loy] I know that
they said he just watched,
1474
01:07:20,703 --> 01:07:21,704
but he watched!
1475
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:24,790
He shouldn't have been there,
he should've stopped it,
1476
01:07:24,915 --> 01:07:26,208
he shouldn't have...
1477
01:07:27,168 --> 01:07:28,627
let it happen.
1478
01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:31,422
To me-- I don't know.
1479
01:07:31,964 --> 01:07:35,342
I think they both should have
gotten death, to be honest.
1480
01:07:36,093 --> 01:07:38,971
It didn't really... matter.
1481
01:07:39,096 --> 01:07:40,264
The fact that
neither one of them
1482
01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:42,600
could hurt
someone else ever again
1483
01:07:42,975 --> 01:07:45,811
was the be-all and end-all.
1484
01:07:46,270 --> 01:07:47,396
[reflective music]
1485
01:07:51,317 --> 01:07:53,611
[Rosky] When Gordon Church
was murdered in 1988,
1486
01:07:53,736 --> 01:07:56,614
Utah didn't have
any hate crimes legislation.
1487
01:07:56,739 --> 01:07:58,616
But, within a few years,
1488
01:07:58,783 --> 01:08:02,078
representative David Litvack
introduced a bill
1489
01:08:02,203 --> 01:08:03,537
in the Utah legislature
1490
01:08:03,662 --> 01:08:07,374
to protect all groups
from hate crimes in Utah,
1491
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:09,043
including gay people.
1492
01:08:09,668 --> 01:08:12,004
Unfortunately,
that bill was hijacked
1493
01:08:12,129 --> 01:08:15,257
by a Republican legislator,
1494
01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:17,259
and it really was sort of gutted
1495
01:08:17,384 --> 01:08:19,720
in a way that has
made it unenforceable.
1496
01:08:21,847 --> 01:08:24,100
[Perry] The original hate crimes
law just didn't cut it.
1497
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,520
In fact, we actually had
a court case that came back
1498
01:08:28,145 --> 01:08:30,481
that clearly indicated
that the current hate crimes law
1499
01:08:30,648 --> 01:08:32,274
couldn't be applied
in most cases.
1500
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:34,318
It was that weak
and that watered-down
1501
01:08:34,485 --> 01:08:37,113
that it was really,
truly, ineffective.
1502
01:08:39,782 --> 01:08:42,159
[Burns] Nobody
wants to come to terms with,
1503
01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:44,787
I punch someone in the face,
1504
01:08:45,454 --> 01:08:46,956
is a misdemeanor.
1505
01:08:47,081 --> 01:08:48,707
But I punch someone in the face
1506
01:08:48,833 --> 01:08:51,335
because they're gay
or they're black,
1507
01:08:51,502 --> 01:08:52,753
or they're Jewish,
1508
01:08:52,878 --> 01:08:54,338
makes it a felony.
1509
01:08:54,505 --> 01:08:57,007
It's interesting that
the pioneers who came to Utah
1510
01:08:57,133 --> 01:08:58,843
came here, trying to avoid hate
1511
01:08:59,009 --> 01:09:01,971
and people attacking them
for what they believed in.
1512
01:09:02,346 --> 01:09:04,557
And yet, it took us
a long time to figure out
1513
01:09:04,682 --> 01:09:06,183
that if we're gonna
have a law on the books,
1514
01:09:06,308 --> 01:09:07,726
we need to
have a law that works.
1515
01:09:07,852 --> 01:09:10,104
And that's kind of
how I came to the point
1516
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:11,522
where I told Senator Thatcher,
1517
01:09:11,647 --> 01:09:13,357
"I wanna be your sponsor
in the House side."
1518
01:09:13,482 --> 01:09:15,568
[tense music]
1519
01:09:16,735 --> 01:09:18,821
[Thatcher] When someone
is convicted of a crime,
1520
01:09:20,030 --> 01:09:21,365
and only
1521
01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:24,160
after someone
has been convicted of a crime,
1522
01:09:24,577 --> 01:09:26,704
do we enter
the sentencing phase.
1523
01:09:27,496 --> 01:09:29,331
The sentencing phase
is when we decide,
1524
01:09:29,456 --> 01:09:30,666
"Okay, they did it,
1525
01:09:31,208 --> 01:09:32,543
how bad was it?
1526
01:09:32,668 --> 01:09:34,712
What should the punishment be?"
1527
01:09:34,837 --> 01:09:36,463
Now, some people,
1528
01:09:37,214 --> 01:09:38,841
and one of
the largest objections
1529
01:09:38,966 --> 01:09:40,134
that I've had to overcome
1530
01:09:40,551 --> 01:09:42,469
from people who don't like
1531
01:09:42,595 --> 01:09:45,264
the idea of
an enhanced sentence is,
1532
01:09:45,389 --> 01:09:47,224
"Well, a crime
is a crime is a crime.
1533
01:09:47,683 --> 01:09:49,852
We should treat
all crimes the same."
1534
01:09:50,728 --> 01:09:52,146
Well,
the challenge with that is,
1535
01:09:52,271 --> 01:09:55,399
that is literally
the exact opposite
1536
01:09:55,524 --> 01:09:58,444
of how our criminal
justice system works.
1537
01:09:58,569 --> 01:09:59,904
Kind of like murder.
1538
01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:01,906
Murder's broken down
into various categories.
1539
01:10:02,072 --> 01:10:05,326
So, a murder,
obviously you lose a life.
1540
01:10:05,451 --> 01:10:07,786
But if you have a murder
where somebody is drunk
1541
01:10:07,912 --> 01:10:09,872
and didn't mean
to kill somebody,
1542
01:10:09,997 --> 01:10:11,165
it's considered, uh,
1543
01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:12,458
I hate to say it,
but a lesser murder.
1544
01:10:12,583 --> 01:10:13,751
And they're
probably not gonna get
1545
01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:15,211
a death row
for something like that.
1546
01:10:16,420 --> 01:10:19,423
But I don't think
any of us can realistically say
1547
01:10:19,798 --> 01:10:21,550
that spraying
your girlfriend's name
1548
01:10:21,675 --> 01:10:23,928
on a fence or an overpass
1549
01:10:24,053 --> 01:10:25,387
is the same crime
1550
01:10:25,512 --> 01:10:27,306
as going to a Jewish synagogue
1551
01:10:27,431 --> 01:10:29,141
and spray-painting a swastika
1552
01:10:29,266 --> 01:10:30,851
and the words, 'Die, Jews.'
1553
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,188
Now if you believe
that those are the same crime
1554
01:10:34,897 --> 01:10:38,108
because in both cases you still
have to clean up graffiti,
1555
01:10:38,275 --> 01:10:39,610
then with respect,
1556
01:10:39,777 --> 01:10:41,779
you probably will not
come on board for this bill,
1557
01:10:41,946 --> 01:10:44,073
and you probably
should vote against this bill,
1558
01:10:44,198 --> 01:10:45,741
if you truly believe
1559
01:10:45,866 --> 01:10:48,410
that those two crimes
should be punished the same.
1560
01:10:49,370 --> 01:10:50,746
The way our law's gonna work is,
1561
01:10:50,871 --> 01:10:52,998
we'll convict you
of the crime first.
1562
01:10:53,415 --> 01:10:55,626
And then we'll add
an additional penalty on
1563
01:10:55,793 --> 01:10:56,669
because the fact
1564
01:10:56,794 --> 01:10:58,128
your selection of your victim
1565
01:10:58,295 --> 01:11:00,089
had everything to do with
1566
01:11:00,714 --> 01:11:03,676
a particular character
or preference,
1567
01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:06,178
not because of anything else.
1568
01:11:06,303 --> 01:11:07,888
Can't prevent everything, but
1569
01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:09,473
this law, by passing it,
1570
01:11:09,598 --> 01:11:11,600
putting it in place with SB103,
1571
01:11:11,725 --> 01:11:14,144
I think, down the road,
will make a difference
1572
01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:16,939
in making people stop
and think about what they do
1573
01:11:17,064 --> 01:11:18,065
and why they're doing it.
1574
01:11:18,899 --> 01:11:20,859
[Thatcher] Let's move forward
with the solution
1575
01:11:20,985 --> 01:11:23,696
that we know
is 100% constitutional,
1576
01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:26,824
that we know
is 100% legally sound.
1577
01:11:27,658 --> 01:11:30,369
When we're looking at
complex legal issues,
1578
01:11:30,494 --> 01:11:31,912
if we're smart,
1579
01:11:32,454 --> 01:11:34,790
we listen to
our subject matter experts.
1580
01:11:35,332 --> 01:11:36,917
We listen to
the Sentencing Commission
1581
01:11:37,042 --> 01:11:39,336
who talks about
what punishments ought to be.
1582
01:11:39,712 --> 01:11:41,922
We should listen to
our Chiefs, our sheriffs,
1583
01:11:42,047 --> 01:11:44,800
we should listen to
our religious communities,
1584
01:11:45,259 --> 01:11:46,844
which are united.
1585
01:11:47,344 --> 01:11:49,430
I am not aware
of a single religion
1586
01:11:49,555 --> 01:11:51,307
that has come forward and said,
1587
01:11:52,057 --> 01:11:53,809
"We don't want this protection."
1588
01:11:55,144 --> 01:11:56,312
We should listen.
1589
01:11:58,355 --> 01:11:59,440
We should listen.
1590
01:11:59,898 --> 01:12:00,941
[music fades]
1591
01:12:05,529 --> 01:12:06,572
[reflective music]
1592
01:12:08,032 --> 01:12:09,533
[Anderson] After
Lance was convicted,
1593
01:12:09,658 --> 01:12:12,369
he was sentenced
to life in prison,
1594
01:12:12,536 --> 01:12:15,414
and ended up
in Draper, Utah, initially.
1595
01:12:17,166 --> 01:12:18,917
He became known as
kind of a prison snitch,
1596
01:12:19,043 --> 01:12:20,544
and after a while
they transferred him
1597
01:12:20,669 --> 01:12:23,714
up to Orofino, Idaho,
to serve his time.
1598
01:12:24,131 --> 01:12:25,674
While he was there,
he ended up having
1599
01:12:25,799 --> 01:12:28,093
several different
long-term sexual relationships
1600
01:12:28,218 --> 01:12:30,554
with female staff at the prison,
1601
01:12:30,721 --> 01:12:33,599
and so they transferred him
to Napa, Idaho,
1602
01:12:33,724 --> 01:12:35,976
which is where
he met Renee McKenzie.
1603
01:12:36,894 --> 01:12:39,229
[McKenzie] My ex-husband
was a senator,
1604
01:12:39,355 --> 01:12:40,564
a state senator.
1605
01:12:41,023 --> 01:12:44,360
Since I wasn't a politician,
I was kind of in the background,
1606
01:12:44,818 --> 01:12:46,195
and so I
1607
01:12:46,820 --> 01:12:49,490
learned a lot
about Idaho politics.
1608
01:12:50,282 --> 01:12:52,159
My first meeting with Lance was,
1609
01:12:52,284 --> 01:12:54,745
I went to prison and I said,
1610
01:12:55,329 --> 01:12:57,081
"I'm working on prison reform,
1611
01:12:57,206 --> 01:12:58,707
I'm writing
1612
01:12:58,832 --> 01:13:01,919
some legislation
for the parole board."
1613
01:13:02,044 --> 01:13:04,088
At first, I thought
it was a senator's
1614
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:07,758
either daughter
or sister or relative,
1615
01:13:07,925 --> 01:13:09,760
because to me, in my mind,
1616
01:13:09,885 --> 01:13:12,971
senator, old,
you know, 98 years old.
1617
01:13:13,097 --> 01:13:16,225
You know, I didn't know,
so it was kind of,
1618
01:13:16,683 --> 01:13:19,144
"Hey, this is
pretty nice," you know?
1619
01:13:19,269 --> 01:13:22,272
All I wanted to talk
to him about was prison reform,
1620
01:13:22,398 --> 01:13:25,651
what could be done on
the inside of prison to improve,
1621
01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:28,153
you know, what Idaho had going.
1622
01:13:28,278 --> 01:13:30,322
Renee, much like me,
1623
01:13:30,781 --> 01:13:33,534
was enamored by this...
1624
01:13:34,243 --> 01:13:35,411
individual.
1625
01:13:36,453 --> 01:13:37,913
Uh...
1626
01:13:38,038 --> 01:13:39,665
[Anderson] So there was an
immediate attraction there then?
1627
01:13:40,332 --> 01:13:42,209
Immediate attraction to her.
1628
01:13:42,334 --> 01:13:44,086
And so I came home
1629
01:13:44,503 --> 01:13:45,629
that night,
1630
01:13:46,046 --> 01:13:48,090
and I remember
going in the computer room
1631
01:13:48,215 --> 01:13:49,675
and looking him up,
1632
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,468
'cause I just thought, I
wonder what he's in prison for?
1633
01:13:52,136 --> 01:13:55,889
His crime
is absolutely horrific.
1634
01:13:56,974 --> 01:13:58,142
So, uh...
1635
01:13:58,767 --> 01:14:00,727
being the interrogator
that I am,
1636
01:14:00,853 --> 01:14:02,771
I wrote down
my thousand questions,
1637
01:14:02,896 --> 01:14:04,982
and went back and slapped
1638
01:14:05,649 --> 01:14:07,359
my folder on the table,
and I said,
1639
01:14:07,484 --> 01:14:08,569
"I got some questions for you,
1640
01:14:08,694 --> 01:14:09,862
and you're gonna
answer all of them."
1641
01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:12,406
She was drilling me, all right?
1642
01:14:12,823 --> 01:14:15,200
And it was funny as that,
for some reason,
1643
01:14:15,325 --> 01:14:16,910
I've always...
1644
01:14:17,494 --> 01:14:19,329
been not totally truthful
1645
01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:20,497
with... with everyone,
1646
01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:22,124
it just never happened.
1647
01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:25,711
But with her,
I just couldn't shut up.
1648
01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:27,963
So I feel like he was
1649
01:14:28,088 --> 01:14:30,632
transparent, I don't think
he was hiding anything.
1650
01:14:30,757 --> 01:14:32,259
He answered all my questions.
1651
01:14:32,634 --> 01:14:35,846
And at the end, she
closed the folder and said,
1652
01:14:36,013 --> 01:14:37,723
"I'm glad
that you didn't lie to me.
1653
01:14:37,848 --> 01:14:39,766
I'm glad that you were
actually honest with me."
1654
01:14:39,892 --> 01:14:41,185
She had
1655
01:14:41,310 --> 01:14:45,063
gotten the same types of
stories from Lance that I got.
1656
01:14:46,565 --> 01:14:48,609
And Lance was very convincing.
1657
01:14:49,276 --> 01:14:52,070
So we built
a real quick friendship.
1658
01:14:52,529 --> 01:14:54,698
We didn't become romantic,
1659
01:14:54,865 --> 01:14:57,618
but I think, when two people
are working on a cause
1660
01:14:57,743 --> 01:15:01,371
so hard and so emotionally,
1661
01:15:01,538 --> 01:15:03,790
you kind of click, as far as
1662
01:15:04,541 --> 01:15:06,752
what you're
trying to accomplish,
1663
01:15:07,544 --> 01:15:09,046
with prison reform.
1664
01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:11,924
[Anderson] Were you flirtatious?
Were you complimentary?
1665
01:15:12,799 --> 01:15:14,551
No, I was all business.
1666
01:15:15,219 --> 01:15:17,846
And it wasn't
until after our first trial
1667
01:15:17,971 --> 01:15:19,223
that we kind of
admitted to each other
1668
01:15:19,348 --> 01:15:21,225
that we had
feelings for each other.
1669
01:15:22,059 --> 01:15:23,810
[Anderson] Did you
and Lance fall in love?
1670
01:15:25,687 --> 01:15:26,772
Um...
1671
01:15:30,484 --> 01:15:32,861
Those are hard things
to answer and I don't know.
1672
01:15:35,572 --> 01:15:37,115
Yeah,
we absolutely fell in love.
1673
01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:40,661
[Anderson] When Renee's
husband found out
1674
01:15:40,786 --> 01:15:43,080
about
her relationship with Lance,
1675
01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:45,874
it hit the local newspapers
and there was a lot of drama.
1676
01:15:45,999 --> 01:15:48,418
Lance ended up
getting transferred again,
1677
01:15:48,544 --> 01:15:52,130
this time to a minimum security
prison in Pendleton, Oregon.
1678
01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:55,175
Renee moved there
to be with him,
1679
01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:57,010
after divorcing her husband.
1680
01:15:57,135 --> 01:15:58,804
And she and Lance
ended up getting married
1681
01:15:58,929 --> 01:16:00,430
in the prison there.
1682
01:16:00,597 --> 01:16:01,640
[reflective music]
1683
01:16:05,602 --> 01:16:07,604
[Anderson] Lance Wood was
sentenced to life in prison
1684
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:09,189
with the possibility of parole.
1685
01:16:09,314 --> 01:16:11,858
He could see
the light of day again.
1686
01:16:16,154 --> 01:16:17,781
At this point,
he's applied for parole twice
1687
01:16:17,948 --> 01:16:19,908
and been denied both times.
1688
01:16:20,617 --> 01:16:22,244
Every denial as of yet has been
1689
01:16:22,369 --> 01:16:24,121
based solely
on the crime itself,
1690
01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:25,747
and not my behavior in prison.
1691
01:16:25,872 --> 01:16:27,833
Okay. Do you feel like
you've had good behavior?
1692
01:16:28,458 --> 01:16:29,751
You know, my ill behavior
1693
01:16:29,876 --> 01:16:31,628
is probably
the staff relationships.
1694
01:16:32,129 --> 01:16:33,589
I guess I'm not Irish,
1695
01:16:33,714 --> 01:16:35,090
but for the luck
of the Irish, you know,
1696
01:16:35,215 --> 01:16:37,634
the women have just
been coming to me, so...
1697
01:16:37,801 --> 01:16:38,885
[unsettling music]
1698
01:16:39,011 --> 01:16:41,722
Lance Wood is a very
1699
01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:45,475
charming person.
1700
01:16:46,143 --> 01:16:48,562
I was fired, let go
from Hospice Care
1701
01:16:48,687 --> 01:16:50,147
for having several relationships
1702
01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:52,691
with the female staff
down there, the nurses.
1703
01:16:55,944 --> 01:16:57,362
He's also very...
1704
01:16:59,489 --> 01:17:00,699
cunning.
1705
01:17:03,327 --> 01:17:06,121
[Anderson] In Lance's own words,
he's called himself a womanizer.
1706
01:17:07,372 --> 01:17:08,915
Lance is a womanizer.
1707
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:12,377
[Anderson] What's
your opinion on that?
1708
01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:15,797
Um... He loves women.
1709
01:17:16,423 --> 01:17:20,093
And he went into prison
when he was, what, 21?
1710
01:17:20,969 --> 01:17:23,805
So think yourself,
in prison, at 21.
1711
01:17:25,891 --> 01:17:28,143
If you're a womanizer,
you're gonna womanize.
1712
01:17:30,771 --> 01:17:33,148
Let's see,
one was a Sandy Martin.
1713
01:17:34,900 --> 01:17:35,984
And...
1714
01:17:37,527 --> 01:17:38,820
Cheryl Davis,
1715
01:17:40,030 --> 01:17:41,365
and three others
1716
01:17:41,531 --> 01:17:42,824
that I don't wanna
mention their names
1717
01:17:42,949 --> 01:17:44,368
just because they--
1718
01:17:44,493 --> 01:17:45,911
we had never
met with any investigator.
1719
01:17:46,536 --> 01:17:48,955
I guess, the way I could
1720
01:17:49,081 --> 01:17:51,792
possibly best describe it, is...
1721
01:17:52,459 --> 01:17:53,418
Ted Bundy.
1722
01:17:54,628 --> 01:17:57,255
He is a very nice-looking man,
1723
01:17:58,674 --> 01:17:59,758
who...
1724
01:18:00,801 --> 01:18:02,552
who manipulates people.
1725
01:18:03,261 --> 01:18:06,348
Let us see, I followed suit
[unclear] down there.
1726
01:18:07,224 --> 01:18:09,351
Started
a few more relationships.
1727
01:18:10,519 --> 01:18:13,105
That's when I met Cheryl--
I mean...
1728
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,275
Renee.
1729
01:18:23,156 --> 01:18:24,366
Yeah, when people go to prison,
1730
01:18:24,491 --> 01:18:26,243
they have nothing
but time on their hands,
1731
01:18:26,410 --> 01:18:29,413
and it sounds like
he's used that time to
1732
01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:34,126
continue to wreak havoc
in multiple people's lives.
1733
01:18:35,585 --> 01:18:36,712
[reflective music]
1734
01:18:44,386 --> 01:18:46,430
[Stella] He says,
"A lot of people believe
1735
01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:47,764
'an eye for an eye',"
1736
01:18:47,931 --> 01:18:48,849
he says, "How do you
feel about it, Mom?"
1737
01:18:48,974 --> 01:18:49,891
And I says, "Well,
1738
01:18:50,308 --> 01:18:51,685
that's what
it says in the Bible,
1739
01:18:51,810 --> 01:18:53,395
I guess, I've never read it.
1740
01:18:54,104 --> 01:18:56,440
But I don't know,
some people believe in it,
1741
01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:57,691
and I keep thinking, you--
1742
01:18:57,816 --> 01:18:59,234
you had to pay
for your mistakes."
1743
01:19:00,986 --> 01:19:02,362
[Peggy] When Mike
first went to prison,
1744
01:19:02,487 --> 01:19:03,905
he was very, very angry,
1745
01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:06,491
and he was very suicidal,
and he was very depressed.
1746
01:19:07,659 --> 01:19:09,578
[Stella] Well, at the beginning,
it was kind of hard on him,
1747
01:19:09,703 --> 01:19:13,039
I mean, he'd been incarcerated
before, many times.
1748
01:19:13,457 --> 01:19:15,292
But like he says,
"This is a big boy thing,"
1749
01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:16,460
this is not a
1750
01:19:16,918 --> 01:19:18,462
young punk, type thing,
1751
01:19:18,587 --> 01:19:20,922
this is... this is a big thing.
1752
01:19:22,257 --> 01:19:24,092
[Stella] I think finally
he just settled down
1753
01:19:24,217 --> 01:19:26,845
into the fact that
this is where he was.
1754
01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:28,597
This was his life,
1755
01:19:28,722 --> 01:19:31,183
and he got older, and matured.
1756
01:19:32,642 --> 01:19:33,602
Like he told me, he says,
1757
01:19:33,727 --> 01:19:35,812
"If I knew then what I know now,
1758
01:19:35,979 --> 01:19:37,689
and how many people
care about me
1759
01:19:37,814 --> 01:19:39,024
and what I could
have done with my life,"
1760
01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:40,942
he says,
"I've wasted my whole life
1761
01:19:41,067 --> 01:19:42,778
just being bitter and angry."
1762
01:19:43,445 --> 01:19:44,279
[music continues]
1763
01:19:45,822 --> 01:19:47,491
[Peggy] Michael talked about,
1764
01:19:47,657 --> 01:19:48,492
after the crime,
1765
01:19:48,617 --> 01:19:49,993
that he felt
1766
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,495
that Gordon had come to him,
1767
01:19:51,661 --> 01:19:55,749
that he dreamed him regularly,
all of the time.
1768
01:19:56,625 --> 01:19:58,752
[Stella] He says,
"Like I could almost smell him,
1769
01:19:58,877 --> 01:20:00,879
it's like he died in my cell."
1770
01:20:01,004 --> 01:20:02,547
He says it was hard,
1771
01:20:02,672 --> 01:20:04,007
so he lost a lot of weight
1772
01:20:04,132 --> 01:20:06,676
because he just couldn't sleep.
1773
01:20:06,843 --> 01:20:07,719
[reflective music]
1774
01:20:08,345 --> 01:20:10,263
[Peggy] They work out a lot
at the prison,
1775
01:20:10,388 --> 01:20:12,599
and he had rigged up
his own weights,
1776
01:20:13,266 --> 01:20:16,102
milk cartons full of water,
and weights on them,
1777
01:20:16,228 --> 01:20:18,647
to pump iron, and ironically,
1778
01:20:18,772 --> 01:20:20,148
it was on the anniversary
1779
01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:22,692
of the date of his crime.
1780
01:20:23,193 --> 01:20:24,653
He says he heard a pop,
1781
01:20:25,195 --> 01:20:26,404
and the other guys around him
1782
01:20:26,530 --> 01:20:28,365
heard the pop
sound like a gunshot.
1783
01:20:28,490 --> 01:20:30,992
One of the elastics
snapped on his weights
1784
01:20:31,117 --> 01:20:32,410
and came back
and hit him in the eye
1785
01:20:32,536 --> 01:20:35,121
and ruptured his eye
and he lost his eyeball.
1786
01:20:36,706 --> 01:20:38,375
[Stella] He says,
"I should have been dead."
1787
01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:41,711
He says, "If that had gotten
just a little fraction
1788
01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:43,255
of an inch or whatever,"
1789
01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:44,965
he says "it would had
probably blown my brains out."
1790
01:20:45,632 --> 01:20:47,717
He says, "But there was
a reason why it didn't."
1791
01:20:48,468 --> 01:20:50,512
[Stella] He said
it was just so strange
1792
01:20:50,637 --> 01:20:52,013
that it was on that day.
1793
01:20:52,138 --> 01:20:53,723
He almost felt like
1794
01:20:53,890 --> 01:20:58,019
it released some kind of
almost, some guilt with him.
1795
01:21:01,022 --> 01:21:02,732
[Burns] Michael
Anthony Archuleta
1796
01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:04,651
has not been executed.
1797
01:21:04,776 --> 01:21:05,652
And, uh...
1798
01:21:06,403 --> 01:21:09,614
that's a tragedy, and
it's a failing of our system.
1799
01:21:11,032 --> 01:21:12,033
[Whatcott] I don't
know if they'll ever
1800
01:21:12,158 --> 01:21:14,202
execute Archuleta or not.
1801
01:21:14,327 --> 01:21:15,745
You know, he's been there for
1802
01:21:16,121 --> 01:21:18,540
thirty years, almost,
now, and...
1803
01:21:19,499 --> 01:21:21,418
still fighting it,
which is ridiculous.
1804
01:21:21,543 --> 01:21:23,253
[Merrill] Good morning again,
Mr. Chief Justice,
1805
01:21:23,420 --> 01:21:25,422
Associate Chief Justice,
members of the court.
1806
01:21:25,547 --> 01:21:27,674
May it please the court,
my name is Charlotte Merrill.
1807
01:21:27,799 --> 01:21:30,176
Again, I represent
Michael Anthony Archuleta.
1808
01:21:30,302 --> 01:21:32,220
So there are a lot of things
that came to light.
1809
01:21:32,345 --> 01:21:35,932
The sexual abuse, you know,
when he was at State Hospital.
1810
01:21:36,057 --> 01:21:37,183
Of course,
none of this was known
1811
01:21:37,309 --> 01:21:39,144
at the time of
his original trial.
1812
01:21:39,936 --> 01:21:42,939
Mr. Archuleta was entitled
to the effective assistance
1813
01:21:43,064 --> 01:21:44,316
of post-conviction counsel
1814
01:21:44,441 --> 01:21:47,152
in his initial
post-conviction proceedings.
1815
01:21:47,944 --> 01:21:49,738
But his counsel was conflicted,
1816
01:21:50,113 --> 01:21:52,866
under-qualified,
and under-funded,
1817
01:21:52,991 --> 01:21:55,035
and missed serious red flags,
1818
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,329
that he was
intellectually disabled,
1819
01:21:57,829 --> 01:21:59,372
and, thus,
1820
01:21:59,748 --> 01:22:01,333
ineligible for execution.
1821
01:22:02,375 --> 01:22:05,170
He went through all of his state
appeals,
1822
01:22:05,295 --> 01:22:08,214
they finally finished,
I think, about five years ago.
1823
01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:10,383
And then
the federal appeals started.
1824
01:22:11,259 --> 01:22:13,136
And I don't understand why
1825
01:22:13,303 --> 01:22:15,722
all those appeals weren't
taking place at the same time.
1826
01:22:15,847 --> 01:22:17,349
I don't understand that.
1827
01:22:17,474 --> 01:22:19,309
You know, a wrongly-imprisoned
1828
01:22:19,476 --> 01:22:21,061
criminal defendant
who has claims,
1829
01:22:21,186 --> 01:22:23,063
has every incentive
to bring those claims early,
1830
01:22:23,188 --> 01:22:24,689
and to pursue them aggressively.
1831
01:22:25,482 --> 01:22:29,110
It's the opposite if you have
a guilty person on death row.
1832
01:22:29,235 --> 01:22:30,820
That person
1833
01:22:30,946 --> 01:22:32,447
has every incentive to wait
until the last possible minute
1834
01:22:32,572 --> 01:22:35,909
to bring claims to gum up
the works of litigation.
1835
01:22:36,284 --> 01:22:37,577
And all we're appealing now is,
1836
01:22:37,702 --> 01:22:39,704
little, teeny,
micro-technicalities,
1837
01:22:39,829 --> 01:22:41,247
and that's what's
drawing this whole thing out,
1838
01:22:41,373 --> 01:22:42,540
and keeping him alive.
1839
01:22:42,916 --> 01:22:45,669
I mean, they filed
their federal petition in 2012.
1840
01:22:45,835 --> 01:22:47,170
We're standing here in 2018,
1841
01:22:47,337 --> 01:22:48,755
and really nothing's
happened in the federal case,
1842
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,715
because we've been
litigating these the whole time.
1843
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,385
And that's already
a victory for their client.
1844
01:22:55,637 --> 01:22:58,181
Sitting on death row,
while intellectually disabled,
1845
01:22:58,306 --> 01:22:59,724
is not a victory.
1846
01:23:01,309 --> 01:23:04,521
Knowing the horrific situation
with Mr. Archuleta,
1847
01:23:04,688 --> 01:23:06,523
I don't know why we're paying
for all of his medical bills,
1848
01:23:06,690 --> 01:23:07,857
and all of the things
to keep him alive.
1849
01:23:08,024 --> 01:23:09,359
I think that,
1850
01:23:09,484 --> 01:23:11,152
realistically, the state of Utah
needs to carry out
1851
01:23:11,277 --> 01:23:12,612
what it's intended to do.
1852
01:23:15,073 --> 01:23:16,449
[Peggy] He's been
given execution dates,
1853
01:23:16,574 --> 01:23:19,119
that have come and gone,
but you never know when,
1854
01:23:19,244 --> 01:23:20,912
when it's not, you know?
1855
01:23:21,037 --> 01:23:22,288
So we've geared ourselves up,
1856
01:23:22,414 --> 01:23:23,957
and then it doesn't happen,
1857
01:23:24,082 --> 01:23:25,959
and then we geared ourselves up,
1858
01:23:26,084 --> 01:23:27,669
for many, many years.
1859
01:23:27,794 --> 01:23:30,463
We as prosecutors concentrate
1860
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,842
on the victims,
and the victims' families.
1861
01:23:33,967 --> 01:23:35,385
And for them to wait
1862
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,639
five years, and then a decade,
and then two decades...
1863
01:23:40,557 --> 01:23:41,850
It takes its toll
1864
01:23:42,308 --> 01:23:44,561
on the families.
1865
01:23:44,728 --> 01:23:45,687
[Peggy] The day may come,
1866
01:23:47,230 --> 01:23:49,274
and we've always known that,
1867
01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:52,068
but,
1868
01:23:52,193 --> 01:23:53,361
that's the one thing
I don't want
1869
01:23:53,486 --> 01:23:55,697
my Mom and Dad
to have to go through is,
1870
01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:57,157
his execution.
1871
01:23:59,325 --> 01:24:01,036
[music fades]
1872
01:24:09,794 --> 01:24:10,712
[reflective piano music]
1873
01:24:12,130 --> 01:24:13,298
[Jesse] The end of every story,
1874
01:24:13,423 --> 01:24:14,340
the one that
gets to tell the story
1875
01:24:14,466 --> 01:24:15,800
is usually the victor,
1876
01:24:15,925 --> 01:24:17,510
and in any case right now,
1877
01:24:17,635 --> 01:24:19,095
it seems like the only victor
1878
01:24:19,262 --> 01:24:20,764
is still the murderers,
1879
01:24:20,930 --> 01:24:23,433
so it almost feels like
they're the only ones that are
1880
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,103
getting their stories told
and their intimate details,
1881
01:24:27,228 --> 01:24:29,731
not this amazing man
that they...
1882
01:24:30,356 --> 01:24:32,025
that they ended his life.
1883
01:24:32,150 --> 01:24:33,318
[reflective music continues]
1884
01:24:34,903 --> 01:24:37,739
[Burns] But I think
the Gordon Ray Church story
1885
01:24:37,864 --> 01:24:39,157
will help,
1886
01:24:39,282 --> 01:24:41,367
because we can look back
thirty years and say,
1887
01:24:41,785 --> 01:24:46,331
My God, I cannot believe
that happened in southern Utah.
1888
01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:50,293
[Perry] I think
the Gordon Church case
1889
01:24:50,418 --> 01:24:51,669
is one of those cases
1890
01:24:51,795 --> 01:24:53,254
that kind of shocked
the people's conscience,
1891
01:24:53,379 --> 01:24:55,298
and probably
moved us forward and said,
1892
01:24:55,465 --> 01:24:56,800
it's time for a change.
1893
01:24:56,966 --> 01:24:58,802
And I think SB103 is gonna
go down in history
1894
01:24:58,927 --> 01:25:02,222
as one of the defining
moments in Utah's history,
1895
01:25:02,347 --> 01:25:04,057
as far as making
the right decisions
1896
01:25:04,182 --> 01:25:05,391
and doing the right things.
1897
01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:08,937
You had me at SB103.
1898
01:25:09,312 --> 01:25:10,480
[Perry laughs]
1899
01:25:10,605 --> 01:25:11,940
Thank you
very much for your work.
1900
01:25:12,065 --> 01:25:13,316
I know this hasn't been easy,
1901
01:25:13,441 --> 01:25:15,693
but I'm very supportive.
1902
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,448
[Anderson] After a long fight,
on April second of this year,
1903
01:25:20,573 --> 01:25:22,408
SB103 was finally
passed into law,
1904
01:25:22,534 --> 01:25:25,453
and we have hate crimes
legislation in Utah now.
1905
01:25:33,503 --> 01:25:35,421
[Perry] It was shocking,
the fact that we got
1906
01:25:36,005 --> 01:25:39,134
a veto-proof margin
in the House of Representatives,
1907
01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:40,426
to support this,
1908
01:25:40,552 --> 01:25:42,428
which tells me
that Utah has realized
1909
01:25:42,554 --> 01:25:46,307
that the time had come
to have a law that works.
1910
01:25:47,183 --> 01:25:48,518
And I think it may save lives.
1911
01:25:48,935 --> 01:25:52,272
I do believe that by having
a law like this on the books
1912
01:25:52,397 --> 01:25:54,315
is gonna send a message
to people that
1913
01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:56,025
we're a civil society
and a civil state,
1914
01:25:56,151 --> 01:25:59,571
and people can't get away with
these kind of crimes in Utah.
1915
01:26:01,823 --> 01:26:03,700
[Stella - voice breaking]
You have to love your kids,
1916
01:26:03,825 --> 01:26:04,826
no matter what.
1917
01:26:04,951 --> 01:26:06,369
You can't just love them
when they're good.
1918
01:26:07,036 --> 01:26:08,955
You have to love them
when they're bad, too.
1919
01:26:09,873 --> 01:26:11,249
That's all
there is to it, I mean,
1920
01:26:11,374 --> 01:26:12,667
that's how it is.
1921
01:26:13,042 --> 01:26:14,335
[melancholic music]
1922
01:26:19,757 --> 01:26:21,217
I think I've learned
from my parents
1923
01:26:21,384 --> 01:26:22,844
about unconditional love.
1924
01:26:23,761 --> 01:26:25,847
Never have they
quit loving Michael.
1925
01:26:26,347 --> 01:26:27,640
Never has my mom,
1926
01:26:28,141 --> 01:26:29,851
never have we denied him,
1927
01:26:30,476 --> 01:26:32,687
never have we
quit caring about him.
1928
01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:34,439
Never have we not
1929
01:26:34,564 --> 01:26:36,191
considered him
a part of our family.
1930
01:26:37,066 --> 01:26:38,276
And so if anything,
1931
01:26:38,401 --> 01:26:40,445
I have learned that
from my parents,
1932
01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:43,281
that if you really love someone,
you love someone.
1933
01:26:43,907 --> 01:26:45,366
[music fades]
1934
01:26:49,913 --> 01:26:50,788
[relaxing music]
1935
01:26:52,207 --> 01:26:53,416
[Burns] I would hope that
1936
01:26:53,583 --> 01:26:55,418
from this case,
1937
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,504
people would be
more understanding
1938
01:26:58,630 --> 01:27:00,340
of their own children,
1939
01:27:00,965 --> 01:27:02,967
of their neighbors.
1940
01:27:04,344 --> 01:27:05,511
We're all different.
1941
01:27:06,012 --> 01:27:08,097
And because someone is black,
1942
01:27:08,264 --> 01:27:10,266
or bald, or short
1943
01:27:10,433 --> 01:27:12,310
or has a speech impediment,
1944
01:27:13,102 --> 01:27:14,395
or is gay,
1945
01:27:15,813 --> 01:27:18,858
is not license to treat them
with anything but
1946
01:27:19,234 --> 01:27:20,652
respect and love.
1947
01:27:25,031 --> 01:27:26,783
[Jesse] Gordon
should be remembered,
1948
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:30,411
because of all the young kids
that are in this world right now
1949
01:27:30,536 --> 01:27:33,164
that are dealing with being gay,
1950
01:27:33,289 --> 01:27:36,626
and not have had the opportunity
to tell their parents.
1951
01:27:36,751 --> 01:27:39,212
That's a good thing,
because it allows people
1952
01:27:39,337 --> 01:27:40,838
to be who they are,
1953
01:27:41,673 --> 01:27:43,591
and not have to
hide in the shadows.
1954
01:27:47,303 --> 01:27:49,597
[Anderson] If you could
say anything to Gordon now,
1955
01:27:50,181 --> 01:27:51,391
what would you say?
1956
01:27:52,225 --> 01:27:53,351
[bitter-sweet music]
1957
01:27:57,355 --> 01:28:00,191
I just I don't have any words.
I--
1958
01:28:00,942 --> 01:28:03,611
I don't know,
just how sorry I am, and...
1959
01:28:04,529 --> 01:28:06,864
how the hell I wish somebody had
1960
01:28:08,324 --> 01:28:10,410
been able to
protect him at the time.
1961
01:28:12,537 --> 01:28:13,705
[Dekker] How'd we do?
1962
01:28:14,998 --> 01:28:16,624
Did we get it right?
1963
01:28:17,333 --> 01:28:18,668
Did we get it right for you,
1964
01:28:18,793 --> 01:28:21,296
did we represent you
as well as we could?
1965
01:28:23,631 --> 01:28:26,342
[Masner] Everyone who's
been involved in this case,
1966
01:28:26,467 --> 01:28:28,553
we did our very best,
1967
01:28:38,604 --> 01:28:41,316
I know he's in a better place.
Enjoy.
1968
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:45,737
[Loy] I would...
1969
01:28:46,863 --> 01:28:49,032
He's so tiny, I'd pick him up.
1970
01:28:49,157 --> 01:28:50,742
[laughs]
1971
01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:53,077
And give him a nice big squeeze.
1972
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:57,457
[Stella crying] He didn't
deserve to die.
1973
01:28:58,333 --> 01:28:59,751
I've got a gay grandson,
1974
01:28:59,876 --> 01:29:01,878
and I mean, I wouldn't
want anyone to do that to him
1975
01:29:02,045 --> 01:29:02,920
for that reason.
1976
01:29:04,088 --> 01:29:06,007
[Peggy] It just
breaks my heart that
1977
01:29:06,132 --> 01:29:07,383
somebody I know and love
1978
01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:10,470
has been involved in hurting
someone so much,
1979
01:29:11,054 --> 01:29:13,348
and wish I could change it,
and I just can't.
1980
01:29:14,349 --> 01:29:15,391
I'm so sorry.
1981
01:29:15,558 --> 01:29:17,101
Oh, so sorry.
1982
01:29:17,727 --> 01:29:18,686
[sobs]
1983
01:29:23,399 --> 01:29:26,277
[Jesse] I'd really like
the image of you being hurt,
1984
01:29:26,736 --> 01:29:28,946
to go away,
I don't want you to hurt.
1985
01:29:29,072 --> 01:29:31,491
I'd want you to go back
to that same moment,
1986
01:29:31,616 --> 01:29:33,159
from where we're
looking out the window,
1987
01:29:33,284 --> 01:29:35,036
and you see the stars so clear.
1988
01:29:39,791 --> 01:29:42,877
I just want to hold
each other and, you know?
1989
01:29:43,002 --> 01:29:44,754
One of the biggest things
anybody wants to hear
1990
01:29:44,879 --> 01:29:46,756
is that things are
just gonna be okay.
1991
01:29:47,340 --> 01:29:50,426
And when I hear that voice,
it's ever so soft in my head,
1992
01:29:50,551 --> 01:29:52,178
and I know a lot of times,
1993
01:29:53,429 --> 01:29:56,641
he's one of the voices
that says, it's gonna be okay.
1994
01:29:58,518 --> 01:29:59,644
And,
1995
01:30:01,104 --> 01:30:03,648
I would want to tell him
it's gonna be okay.
1996
01:30:04,565 --> 01:30:05,650
[music continues]
1997
01:30:23,334 --> 01:30:24,544
[music ends]
1998
01:30:38,975 --> 01:30:42,103
[ending music]
1999
01:31:42,455 --> 01:31:44,749
[music fades]
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