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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,713 --> 00:00:07,924 [engine idling] 2 00:00:08,049 --> 00:00:09,592 [radio crackling] 3 00:00:09,718 --> 00:00:11,136 [80s pop music] 4 00:00:48,089 --> 00:00:49,632 [engine rumbling] 5 00:00:51,843 --> 00:00:52,719 [engine cuts] 6 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:56,723 -[song ends] -[footsteps] 7 00:00:57,265 --> 00:00:59,642 [unsettling music] 8 00:01:27,837 --> 00:01:29,506 [electronic music] 9 00:02:05,166 --> 00:02:07,377 [music continues] 10 00:02:40,034 --> 00:02:41,327 [music fades] 11 00:02:43,663 --> 00:02:46,499 [Burns] I got a call at two or three in the morning. 12 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:48,209 I was told 13 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:52,839 that Lance Conway Wood was at the sheriff's department. 14 00:02:53,923 --> 00:02:57,719 Sergeant Frank Slack is the one that called me, 15 00:02:57,844 --> 00:02:59,721 and he said... He's telling me this tale 16 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:01,764 about somebody that was murdered. 17 00:03:01,890 --> 00:03:05,560 "I think this guy is on meth or crazy, 18 00:03:05,977 --> 00:03:08,897 but could you come down and help me with this?" 19 00:03:09,606 --> 00:03:11,399 [police on recording] 2:40 in the morning. 20 00:03:11,524 --> 00:03:13,484 We're at the Iron County Jail facility 21 00:03:14,068 --> 00:03:15,945 asking some questions of Lance Wood. 22 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:19,282 Lance Wood informs John Grath and Sergeant Slack 23 00:03:19,407 --> 00:03:21,576 that he has some information 24 00:03:22,118 --> 00:03:23,828 about a possible homicide. 25 00:03:25,496 --> 00:03:28,958 He told a horrific tale. 26 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:31,461 [traffic ambiance] 27 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:34,297 [Wood] So it was me, Mike... 28 00:03:36,716 --> 00:03:38,384 [police] You're driving down the road. 29 00:03:38,509 --> 00:03:40,470 [Wood] All I know is that... 30 00:03:43,097 --> 00:03:45,850 he was driving and Mike slit his throat. 31 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:48,353 -[police] While he was driving? -[Wood] While he's driving, 32 00:03:48,478 --> 00:03:50,396 and then he cut his shoulders, too. 33 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:53,566 All the dude says is "ouch," you know? 34 00:03:53,942 --> 00:03:55,526 [police] And what happened after he cut him? 35 00:03:55,652 --> 00:03:57,403 [Wood] Cut him, dude pulled over... 36 00:03:58,112 --> 00:04:00,365 Mike had sex with him on top of the... 37 00:04:00,865 --> 00:04:02,742 -[police] With the guy? -[Wood] With the guy. 38 00:04:03,576 --> 00:04:06,412 I've stayed in the car while this is happening. 39 00:04:06,871 --> 00:04:08,039 He got out, 40 00:04:08,164 --> 00:04:09,916 I know he picked up, like, the tire iron, 41 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:11,709 start smashing his head. 42 00:04:11,834 --> 00:04:13,461 [dull thuds] 43 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:17,131 [Burns] And I remember thinking, This is too violent, 44 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:21,094 too sad, too outrageous to be true. 45 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:26,182 [police] Mike tell you why he killed this Church? 46 00:04:26,975 --> 00:04:29,018 [Wood] 'Cause he's a faggot. [chuckles] 47 00:04:29,143 --> 00:04:30,853 [police] That's what he said? 48 00:04:32,397 --> 00:04:34,649 [Burns] I was about ready to wrap it up, 49 00:04:34,983 --> 00:04:37,277 and then I remember looking down on his shoe 50 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:39,862 and I saw one speck of blood. 51 00:04:41,322 --> 00:04:44,284 And that changed everything for me. 52 00:04:50,623 --> 00:04:53,167 So I came out of the closet in 2011 53 00:04:53,334 --> 00:04:54,544 and moved to Utah. 54 00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:58,256 At a certain point, I started researching gay hate crimes. 55 00:04:58,881 --> 00:05:00,883 You ever heard of Matthew Shepard? 56 00:05:01,009 --> 00:05:02,093 I remember the case. 57 00:05:02,218 --> 00:05:05,638 Hit national news. It was huge. 58 00:05:07,223 --> 00:05:08,433 And his name is remembered. 59 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:10,268 People honor him. There are memorials 60 00:05:10,393 --> 00:05:13,563 and funds and scholarships, and... 61 00:05:13,688 --> 00:05:16,357 -Gordon has been forgotten. -Just kinda drifted away. 62 00:05:16,524 --> 00:05:18,484 I mean, not forgotten by his family, but-- 63 00:05:18,609 --> 00:05:20,945 No. No, I know what you mean. 64 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:22,363 [click] 65 00:05:22,864 --> 00:05:24,782 [police on recording] Will you tell us your name, please? 66 00:05:24,907 --> 00:05:26,993 [Nancy] My name is Nancy Church. 67 00:05:27,118 --> 00:05:29,162 [police] And you live in Delta, Utah? 68 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:30,872 [Nancy] Yes, I do. 69 00:05:31,247 --> 00:05:32,540 [police] Who is your spouse? 70 00:05:32,707 --> 00:05:34,208 [Nancy] David Church. 71 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,044 [police] Can you tell us if you have children, 72 00:05:36,210 --> 00:05:37,920 and how many children? 73 00:05:38,046 --> 00:05:39,630 [Nancy] Yes, I do. 74 00:05:39,756 --> 00:05:41,049 I have three sons. 75 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:43,801 A son Craig, who is in Cedar City, 76 00:05:43,926 --> 00:05:46,637 a son Kevin, who's in Philadelphia, 77 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:49,349 and a son, Gordon, who's dead. 78 00:05:50,558 --> 00:05:51,893 [Anderson] The case of Gordon Church 79 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:54,228 kind of took over my life at a certain point. 80 00:05:54,395 --> 00:05:55,897 It became kind of a personal mission 81 00:05:56,022 --> 00:05:59,025 to see Gordon remembered and honored. 82 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:03,946 At the age of 28, he was living in Cedar City, Utah, 83 00:06:04,072 --> 00:06:06,491 attending Southern Utah State College 84 00:06:06,616 --> 00:06:08,117 as a theater tech major. 85 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:13,873 [Loy] He was a very small guy, I mean, very skinny. 86 00:06:15,249 --> 00:06:16,542 Very nice guy. 87 00:06:17,168 --> 00:06:19,170 [Long] He had the perfect '80s hair! 88 00:06:19,295 --> 00:06:21,798 [chuckles] And just... 89 00:06:22,423 --> 00:06:24,926 just a normal 28 year-old. 90 00:06:25,593 --> 00:06:28,054 [Loy] He loved his family very much, 91 00:06:28,179 --> 00:06:31,891 and his personality reflected that. 92 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,018 [click] 93 00:06:34,143 --> 00:06:35,770 [police] With respect to your son Gordon, 94 00:06:35,895 --> 00:06:37,980 where did he live in November of 1988? 95 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:41,943 [Nancy] November of 1988, he was living in my mother's house. 96 00:06:42,402 --> 00:06:45,446 He had decided that he wanted to go back to school. 97 00:06:45,613 --> 00:06:47,073 And so he rented a room from my mother, 98 00:06:47,198 --> 00:06:49,117 which was more economical for him, 99 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:50,785 and it helped her out, 100 00:06:50,952 --> 00:06:52,620 because she's retired and living on limited money. 101 00:06:53,121 --> 00:06:54,872 And then he would shovel her snow 102 00:06:54,997 --> 00:06:57,083 and take care of her, and so it was a relief to us 103 00:06:57,208 --> 00:06:59,043 to have someone with my mother. 104 00:07:00,128 --> 00:07:02,547 [Kathy] We would meet pretty much every day 105 00:07:02,672 --> 00:07:04,549 after one of our classes for coffee. 106 00:07:04,674 --> 00:07:06,676 We would just talk. 107 00:07:07,802 --> 00:07:09,804 [Loy] We'd go cruise Main Street, 108 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:11,305 the whole five minutes, 109 00:07:11,472 --> 00:07:14,642 and then we'd go park in the park, 110 00:07:14,767 --> 00:07:16,144 and just sit and chat. 111 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:18,354 [birds chirping] 112 00:07:18,729 --> 00:07:20,231 [Kathy] He needed an outlet that he... 113 00:07:20,356 --> 00:07:24,026 someone that he could talk to, and so did I. 114 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:32,618 He tended to seek out people that wouldn't reject him 115 00:07:33,411 --> 00:07:35,037 for what he was. 116 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:40,460 [Loy] We used to talk about guys. 117 00:07:40,585 --> 00:07:42,879 We both liked the same kind of guy, 118 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:45,840 only difference is, Gordon wanted one shorter. 119 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:47,300 I wanted a six foot two guy, 120 00:07:47,425 --> 00:07:51,888 and he wanted a five foot eight guy. [laughs] 121 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,397 [Jesse] When I met Gordon, he was a lot more different. 122 00:08:01,522 --> 00:08:04,108 Uh, he... 123 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:06,444 experimented, is we will call it. 124 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:10,156 He had many boyfriends, suitors, lovers. 125 00:08:10,281 --> 00:08:12,992 [Loy] We actually would go to 7-Eleven. 126 00:08:13,117 --> 00:08:16,704 Gordon always got his Mountain Dew, 127 00:08:16,871 --> 00:08:19,582 or in the evenings, the Diet Coke. 128 00:08:20,708 --> 00:08:23,961 And he would get his cigarettes. 129 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:25,546 And that was, 130 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:28,216 I guess, you could say, both of our vices. 131 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:29,592 [laughs] 132 00:08:32,094 --> 00:08:33,763 [Jesse] And when I got to college, 133 00:08:33,888 --> 00:08:37,308 that was when I had my first intimate experience ever. 134 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:41,521 And, Gordon was a big part of that. 135 00:08:41,646 --> 00:08:45,066 And I was like, wow, this is a rush. 136 00:08:45,233 --> 00:08:46,901 I don't want to leave the house any more. 137 00:08:47,068 --> 00:08:48,277 [laughs] 138 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:51,822 [Loy] Always relaxing, always very comfortable. 139 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:54,283 He was a nice guy to be around. 140 00:08:56,118 --> 00:08:57,954 Makes me miss him. 141 00:09:03,084 --> 00:09:04,293 [crickets] 142 00:09:04,418 --> 00:09:06,504 [police on recording] Is what you told us... 143 00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:10,258 freely and voluntarily and comes from your own volition? 144 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:11,884 [Wood] Yes. 145 00:09:12,009 --> 00:09:13,386 -[police] Nobody's forced you-- -[Wood] No. 146 00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:15,221 I want to know what protection I could receive, 147 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:17,056 can receive. 148 00:09:17,181 --> 00:09:18,849 [police] Are you frightened because you're afraid of Mike? 149 00:09:18,975 --> 00:09:21,727 [Wood] Yeah and what he might do, you know? 150 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:26,941 If he's in jail, you know, for just a... 151 00:09:27,108 --> 00:09:29,694 or for at least 72 hours, I can try... 152 00:09:29,819 --> 00:09:31,946 we can probably find a new apartment. 153 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:33,531 [police] Or we can do better than that. 154 00:09:33,656 --> 00:09:34,949 We're gonna find the body. 155 00:09:35,074 --> 00:09:36,242 -[Wood] Yes. -[police] Okay. 156 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:38,869 [Wood] An apartment for me, though. 157 00:09:40,037 --> 00:09:41,455 [police] Yeah. All right. 158 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:43,457 Well, we got a long ways to go. First, we gotta... 159 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:46,711 I'm concerned Mr. Archuleta's on the street, 160 00:09:46,836 --> 00:09:49,380 and in this type of murder... 161 00:09:49,505 --> 00:09:51,382 The murder took place one day ago. 162 00:09:51,507 --> 00:09:53,759 I'm concerned that it's 2:30 in the morning, 163 00:09:53,884 --> 00:09:55,970 you say he's gonna "cruise." 164 00:09:56,137 --> 00:09:57,346 -[Wood] Yeah. -[police] It tells me 165 00:09:57,471 --> 00:09:59,181 he's gonna leave the area, 166 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:01,392 and I want to... 167 00:10:02,059 --> 00:10:03,477 make arrangements to go pick him up. 168 00:10:03,644 --> 00:10:05,479 So we'll conclude the interview at this time. 169 00:10:05,646 --> 00:10:06,814 -Thank you. -[Wood] Alright. 170 00:10:07,481 --> 00:10:10,901 So I remember I called our sheriff, Ira Schoppmann. 171 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:14,739 And he said, let's put this little feller in the car 172 00:10:14,864 --> 00:10:17,325 and let's go see if we can find us a body. 173 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,535 [tense music] 174 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:23,748 [Burns] We got to a turnoff, mile marker 138, 175 00:10:23,873 --> 00:10:26,626 and he said, "I think it's over there." 176 00:10:27,668 --> 00:10:29,295 [Anderson] And they realized that 177 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:30,671 this was something very real. 178 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:32,340 They had a body on their hands. 179 00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:34,842 And there was a dangerous man still free. 180 00:10:34,967 --> 00:10:36,344 So they rushed back to Cedar City 181 00:10:36,510 --> 00:10:38,262 to get Michael Archuleta. 182 00:10:38,846 --> 00:10:41,223 [Burns] He was with a girlfriend. 183 00:10:41,349 --> 00:10:44,060 They were sleeping in an apartment in a bed. 184 00:10:44,185 --> 00:10:47,021 I remember we kicked the door in. 185 00:10:47,521 --> 00:10:48,981 And I distinctly remember, 186 00:10:49,106 --> 00:10:51,067 because it was one of the highlights of the day, 187 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:54,153 is a Cedar City police officer 188 00:10:54,278 --> 00:10:57,031 shoving a. 357 Magnum in his mouth, 189 00:10:57,198 --> 00:11:00,785 and, you know, begging him to move. 190 00:11:02,912 --> 00:11:05,247 Archuleta was very compliant. 191 00:11:07,041 --> 00:11:08,542 Denied everything. 192 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,879 And I think before we even asked him any questions, 193 00:11:12,046 --> 00:11:14,715 he was already pointing the finger 194 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,342 at Lance Wood. 195 00:11:19,387 --> 00:11:21,013 [Anderson] Once Archuleta was in custody, 196 00:11:21,138 --> 00:11:22,932 police went back with Lance Wood 197 00:11:23,057 --> 00:11:24,892 to begin processing the crime scene. 198 00:11:25,017 --> 00:11:26,894 [police] The area is Dog Valley area, 199 00:11:27,061 --> 00:11:30,064 located approximately milepost 138. 200 00:11:30,231 --> 00:11:32,525 The scene of a homicide, case number-- 201 00:11:32,650 --> 00:11:35,444 [Masner] As I walked forward, taking photographs 202 00:11:35,569 --> 00:11:36,737 from the freeway, 203 00:11:36,904 --> 00:11:38,280 we could see that it was... 204 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:41,784 it was a red substance on the road. 205 00:11:42,576 --> 00:11:44,120 [camera shutter clicking] 206 00:11:44,245 --> 00:11:45,204 Hair, 207 00:11:45,579 --> 00:11:47,331 what appeared to be skin. 208 00:11:49,041 --> 00:11:51,460 We knew we had something serious here. 209 00:11:52,753 --> 00:11:55,256 It kind of led us up a trail. 210 00:11:55,423 --> 00:11:57,675 You could see where something had been drug. 211 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,343 We got into the area 212 00:11:59,468 --> 00:12:01,846 where we could see what was underneath there, 213 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:04,056 and it was a human body. 214 00:12:04,598 --> 00:12:07,810 And I, seeing the body laying there, I thought, 215 00:12:07,935 --> 00:12:10,479 why, I know this guy. I know this guy. 216 00:12:11,355 --> 00:12:13,399 [Masner] Took a picture of the driver's license. 217 00:12:13,524 --> 00:12:15,651 -[camera shutter clicking] -And then had 218 00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:17,445 Captain Dekker look at it. 219 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,575 And he identified our victim as Gordon Church. 220 00:12:23,033 --> 00:12:24,285 [Dekker] I remember looking at that 221 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:26,328 and seeing the address is Delta, Utah, 222 00:12:26,454 --> 00:12:28,622 and I said, "Oh, crap, I do know this kid." 223 00:12:28,789 --> 00:12:30,166 I hollered up to my sheriff, 224 00:12:30,291 --> 00:12:33,294 and I said, "Sheriff, this is one of our residents." 225 00:12:34,044 --> 00:12:37,006 And I remember we called his neighbor, 226 00:12:37,673 --> 00:12:39,383 the Churchs' neighbor, 227 00:12:39,508 --> 00:12:40,968 was one of our deputies, 228 00:12:41,135 --> 00:12:43,262 to go make the notification. 229 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,139 Now that was difficult for him, 230 00:12:45,264 --> 00:12:48,642 because he lived three, four houses away. 231 00:12:49,101 --> 00:12:50,770 [Whatcott] When I walked up to the door, 232 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:53,481 Nancy opened the door, she knew 233 00:12:54,523 --> 00:12:58,027 right off something was wrong. They had been expecting 234 00:12:58,486 --> 00:12:59,820 a call from Gordon. 235 00:12:59,987 --> 00:13:01,530 I think he was coming home for Thanksgiving. 236 00:13:02,698 --> 00:13:04,241 [police] At ten hundred hours, 237 00:13:04,366 --> 00:13:08,162 reporting officer met with Mr. and Mrs. David Church, 238 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:10,539 the parents of the victim, in Delta. 239 00:13:11,248 --> 00:13:12,833 The Churches had several questions 240 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:15,294 as to the things that had taken place 241 00:13:15,419 --> 00:13:17,505 in reference to the homicide. 242 00:13:18,255 --> 00:13:21,383 I mean, it just tore them apart. I mean.. 243 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:23,844 And it was tough, 244 00:13:23,969 --> 00:13:26,055 toughest thing I think I've ever done. 245 00:13:26,430 --> 00:13:27,264 [news fanfare] 246 00:13:27,389 --> 00:13:29,600 [announcer] This is KUTV News. 247 00:13:29,725 --> 00:13:32,853 Lack of funding is forcing Utah's first AIDS support group 248 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:34,480 to shut down in January. 249 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:36,690 We certainly don't need homosexuals 250 00:13:36,857 --> 00:13:38,192 teaching us about AIDS, 251 00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:40,110 when we can thank the homosexual community 252 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:42,404 for this scourge in the first place. 253 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:47,201 [Jesse] But with the fear of the AIDS crisis 254 00:13:47,368 --> 00:13:50,704 that have just came out, you almost fear like, 255 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,248 you know, I need to couple up 256 00:13:52,373 --> 00:13:53,707 with somebody who doesn't have it. 257 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,251 I don't even know how you get it, 258 00:13:55,376 --> 00:13:56,961 how you give it to somebody, 259 00:13:57,086 --> 00:13:58,629 or how it's brought out into the relationship, 260 00:13:58,754 --> 00:14:01,173 but I need to find somebody right away that doesn't have it. 261 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:03,217 [Kathy] Yeah, being gay in the 1980s 262 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:04,844 was completely different than it is now. 263 00:14:04,969 --> 00:14:08,931 I mean, there were more closeted gays. 264 00:14:09,056 --> 00:14:11,308 It just wasn't as accepted. 265 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:12,768 [Loy] He tried to hide it. 266 00:14:12,893 --> 00:14:15,187 He never wanted it to be seen. 267 00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:18,274 And I was actually part of his secret life. 268 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,610 As far as being in Cedar, 269 00:14:21,735 --> 00:14:25,906 it's such a tight-knit little Mormon community 270 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,034 that you just didn't show it. 271 00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:30,828 [Kathy] He was... 272 00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:35,207 I think, in his eyes, disappointing his family. 273 00:14:38,043 --> 00:14:40,421 [Whatcott] The Church family was... 274 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:44,091 They were just good home-grown people. 275 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,971 [Kathy] They kind of knew that he was not... 276 00:14:51,098 --> 00:14:52,766 that he was not the good little Mormon boy 277 00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:54,602 that they wanted him to be. 278 00:14:55,686 --> 00:14:58,564 [Phillips] What had been... I would describe it as a... 279 00:14:59,523 --> 00:15:02,568 pretty happy and robust family, 280 00:15:02,693 --> 00:15:03,944 the entire Church family. 281 00:15:04,111 --> 00:15:07,907 They were always up, so to speak, you know? 282 00:15:08,574 --> 00:15:10,034 This incident just 283 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:12,119 virtually destroyed that whole family. 284 00:15:12,286 --> 00:15:15,205 It ruined Dave for a while. 285 00:15:15,331 --> 00:15:18,167 He quit going to church. 286 00:15:19,793 --> 00:15:22,671 Really got quiet, never visited with anybody. 287 00:15:22,796 --> 00:15:25,215 It tore him up pretty bad. 288 00:15:25,966 --> 00:15:27,509 It was just a... 289 00:15:29,386 --> 00:15:32,264 life-changing event for a lot of people. 290 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:38,437 [Kathy] I did not attend Gordon's funeral in Delta, no. 291 00:15:38,562 --> 00:15:41,065 We knew that the family didn't want us there. 292 00:15:41,190 --> 00:15:43,567 Because that would have meant to them 293 00:15:43,692 --> 00:15:48,530 accepting the fact that that Gordon was gay. 294 00:16:00,501 --> 00:16:02,962 [Phillips] Well, what I was told in my youth 295 00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:04,964 and growing up years 296 00:16:05,089 --> 00:16:07,216 is out in Dog Valley here 297 00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:11,887 that it was heavily infested with prairie dogs. 298 00:16:12,596 --> 00:16:15,224 This is the typical temperature and so on 299 00:16:15,349 --> 00:16:19,269 of the exact morning that all of this occurred, 300 00:16:19,395 --> 00:16:20,854 and the days leading up to it. 301 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:23,107 It was damn cold weather. 302 00:16:23,565 --> 00:16:28,028 At this point, we got Wood here, we had heard his story. 303 00:16:28,153 --> 00:16:30,864 He had indicated where this had all happened, 304 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:34,243 the homicide had happened, and where the body was. 305 00:16:35,452 --> 00:16:37,079 [Masner] And I worked the camera, 306 00:16:37,204 --> 00:16:38,831 and on videotape, 307 00:16:39,289 --> 00:16:41,125 he agreed to do what 308 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:44,545 I called a crime scene re-enactment. 309 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:46,130 [static buzz] 310 00:16:46,255 --> 00:16:48,007 [police] We'd be continuation as if we're in a vehicle. 311 00:16:48,132 --> 00:16:49,717 -[Wood] Okay. -[police] Still in the vehicle, 312 00:16:49,883 --> 00:16:51,552 Archuleta's still driving. 313 00:16:51,719 --> 00:16:53,178 [Wood] Right. 314 00:16:54,388 --> 00:16:57,182 [Dekker] And I thought, man, this doesn't happen 315 00:16:57,307 --> 00:17:00,853 very often, you get somebody was there 316 00:17:01,228 --> 00:17:02,938 can be a witness. 317 00:17:03,564 --> 00:17:05,774 But as we walked around that crime scene down there... 318 00:17:05,899 --> 00:17:07,568 -You're still in the vehicle? -We're still in the vehicle. 319 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,778 [Dekker] My gut started to churn and I just thought, 320 00:17:09,903 --> 00:17:11,363 this isn't right. 321 00:17:11,488 --> 00:17:14,616 This guy is leading us down this 322 00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:16,869 merry little path... 323 00:17:16,994 --> 00:17:18,370 [speaking indistinctly] 324 00:17:18,495 --> 00:17:21,081 ...that he wants us to know, and so I've started 325 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:24,293 correcting some of my questions in a different way. 326 00:17:24,418 --> 00:17:26,712 He opened the trunk, and... 327 00:17:28,172 --> 00:17:29,923 he got jerked out of the trunk. 328 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:31,759 Church dude says, "You're gonna kill me, aren't you?" 329 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:34,678 Archuleta goes, "No, I'm not gonna kill you." 330 00:17:34,803 --> 00:17:36,472 Lance seemed to be 331 00:17:36,597 --> 00:17:39,141 really excited about telling everybody. 332 00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:43,562 [indistinct] started lifting him 333 00:17:43,687 --> 00:17:47,566 and he started wrapping the chains around him, 334 00:17:47,691 --> 00:17:50,027 I think the chains, he hooked the chains up. 335 00:17:50,611 --> 00:17:53,739 And then he hooked the jumper cables to the guy's balls. 336 00:17:55,616 --> 00:17:58,452 [Phillips] I mean, we just let him rattle on. 337 00:17:58,952 --> 00:18:00,913 I mean, it's just amazing. 338 00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:04,124 You know, we had decided 339 00:18:04,249 --> 00:18:05,918 that's the take on it, 340 00:18:06,043 --> 00:18:07,419 that's what we were gonna do. 341 00:18:07,544 --> 00:18:09,129 I just didn't trust him at the time. 342 00:18:09,296 --> 00:18:10,672 I could just tell there was 343 00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:12,466 more to it than what he was saying, 344 00:18:12,591 --> 00:18:15,886 and I think everybody was the same way. 345 00:18:16,011 --> 00:18:17,554 [unclear] 346 00:18:18,764 --> 00:18:20,099 [coughs] 347 00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:22,059 Archuleta told me that he'd have to kill him. 348 00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:23,477 [Phillips] On and on and on that day, 349 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:27,231 from the time of the meeting in Fillmore 350 00:18:27,815 --> 00:18:29,775 on the ride out here, 351 00:18:30,317 --> 00:18:31,735 battin' his gums, 352 00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:35,906 and then out here, he was just all show and tell. 353 00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:38,992 Which arm and which leg did he use? 354 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:40,452 The guy was laying like this, 355 00:18:40,577 --> 00:18:41,912 so it had to be this arm and this leg. 356 00:18:42,037 --> 00:18:44,289 Was he laying on his back or his stomach? 357 00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:46,416 Oh, I think his... 358 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,838 back, I think, or stomach. Probably stomach. 359 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:54,466 Lance was enjoying everything he told us about it. 360 00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:57,052 I could see that in his face. 361 00:18:57,177 --> 00:18:58,804 He's, you know, he's laughing 362 00:18:58,929 --> 00:19:01,306 and smiling about things, and... 363 00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:03,433 My God, I wouldn't be 364 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:06,520 laughing and smiling about beating somebody's head in. 365 00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:10,983 Once again, he told you why he killed Mr. Church? 366 00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:13,152 Yeah, because he's a queer. 367 00:19:19,908 --> 00:19:23,453 [reflective piano music] 368 00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:29,793 [Jesse] With Gordon and I, 369 00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:31,545 I wouldn't say that we were flirtatious, 370 00:19:31,712 --> 00:19:32,796 it was more like 371 00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:35,090 we were just two friends that just loved to giggle 372 00:19:35,215 --> 00:19:36,300 and loved to laugh. 373 00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:38,177 Thing is, as you know, I knew 374 00:19:38,302 --> 00:19:41,054 Jesse was gay, and I knew Gordon was gay, 375 00:19:41,221 --> 00:19:44,850 so the fact that they were together made me happy, too, 376 00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:47,644 because, you know, at least they had each other. 377 00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:49,897 I think we were watching... 378 00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:55,110 I know we were watching the production of Hair. [chuckles] 379 00:19:55,235 --> 00:19:56,653 He was on this side of me, 380 00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:58,989 sitting on the floor, on the couch. 381 00:19:59,114 --> 00:20:01,074 And our hands kind of, 382 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,161 you know, I could feel that my knee was touching his knee, 383 00:20:04,286 --> 00:20:05,746 and that my hand was getting 384 00:20:05,913 --> 00:20:07,581 really close to touching his hand, 385 00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:10,584 and it felt really comfortable, 386 00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:14,087 it felt really good, and he gave me a sense of... 387 00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:16,506 I don't know, this is exciting. 388 00:20:16,632 --> 00:20:18,592 This is something I didn't think I was gonna have 389 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:19,968 with a really good friend of mine. 390 00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:22,179 There were times when I would be around him, 391 00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:24,932 and he would flame up, 392 00:20:25,098 --> 00:20:27,851 so to speak, and I could see the flames. 393 00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:30,437 And he had a... 394 00:20:31,104 --> 00:20:33,482 like a Streamline, a Streamline trailer. 395 00:20:33,607 --> 00:20:35,776 And so we went back there, 396 00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:38,195 and stayed up till all hours of the night 397 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,780 just sharing stories, 398 00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:41,698 looking out one of the windows and seeing the stars. 399 00:20:41,823 --> 00:20:45,994 The stars was just insanely big and beautiful at the time. 400 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,538 I remember, as a young adult, 401 00:20:48,664 --> 00:20:50,374 that was the first time I ever noticed that 402 00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:53,001 the stars are so thick down in southern Utah. 403 00:20:53,126 --> 00:20:56,880 It's the sky, it's just so full. 404 00:20:58,882 --> 00:21:00,342 And I remember the phrase in my head 405 00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:03,178 that I carried, from now until then. 406 00:21:03,303 --> 00:21:04,638 I just remember 407 00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:05,973 when you're holding each other so tight, 408 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:08,517 and it just feels so good and so connected, 409 00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:10,102 that when you look down and you can't see 410 00:21:10,227 --> 00:21:11,687 whose arm belongs to who, 411 00:21:11,812 --> 00:21:13,981 and whose leg belongs to who, 412 00:21:14,147 --> 00:21:16,191 and in the distance you look out the window 413 00:21:16,316 --> 00:21:17,651 and you just see all those stars, 414 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:19,736 and I mean, I was in love. 415 00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:29,037 Jesse left Cedar City at a certain point, 416 00:21:29,162 --> 00:21:31,999 and he and Gordon were dating long distance for a while. 417 00:21:32,165 --> 00:21:34,501 It put a lot of strain on their relationship. 418 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,670 [Jesse] When we talked on the telephone, 419 00:21:36,837 --> 00:21:38,630 it was one of the last conversations we had. 420 00:21:38,755 --> 00:21:41,300 He would say things are gonna be okay, 421 00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:43,093 and I cried. 422 00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:44,678 And I just thought 423 00:21:44,803 --> 00:21:47,306 I don't understand what's going on here right now. 424 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:49,891 A few months later, I remember, 425 00:21:50,017 --> 00:21:53,562 getting a phone call from one of my good friends, Loy. 426 00:21:54,271 --> 00:21:57,065 Loy had told me that 427 00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:59,860 that Gordon was dead. 428 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:01,403 [sobs] 429 00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:08,201 I just couldn't understand. 430 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:09,411 [sobs] 431 00:22:12,706 --> 00:22:16,835 I just couldn't understand how somebody could do that. 432 00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:24,051 How somebody could do that to another human being, you know? 433 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,011 It was just not right. 434 00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:28,930 Especially to Gordon. 435 00:22:33,685 --> 00:22:37,773 [Jesse] I wish that when he had passed away, 436 00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:40,650 that I could tell his parents, 437 00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,737 his family, you know, 438 00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,155 that this is 439 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,573 not necessarily the way he wanted to come out to you, 440 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,034 but he's a good person. 441 00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:51,787 And he had a good soul and a good heart. 442 00:22:52,162 --> 00:22:54,414 Gordon wouldn't have that kind of coming out story. 443 00:22:54,581 --> 00:22:56,416 He wouldn't have anybody to hold him. 444 00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,293 This was how the people were holding him. 445 00:22:58,418 --> 00:22:59,669 They're killing him! 446 00:22:59,795 --> 00:23:03,256 And there's nobody in that room... 447 00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:04,508 [sobs] 448 00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:08,261 Who's gonna be able to talk to him 449 00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:10,430 and tell him, you know, 450 00:23:10,555 --> 00:23:12,557 "I still love you," or, 451 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,976 "It's gonna be okay." 452 00:23:16,269 --> 00:23:18,897 [sobs] 453 00:23:26,488 --> 00:23:28,281 [Dekker] Some time later, we decided 454 00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:29,991 that we've got to arrest this guy, 455 00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:32,994 although we didn't have anything to hold him on the murder. 456 00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:36,331 When I got there, I was advised 457 00:23:36,456 --> 00:23:39,835 to take custody of Lance Wood. 458 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,128 They wanted to do 459 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,672 what they call a Code R kit, or a rape kit. 460 00:23:44,047 --> 00:23:46,466 [Dekker] He wanted to appear to be very helpful. 461 00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:49,594 He wanted to appear to be the good guy. 462 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:53,640 That his involvement was minor and out here, 463 00:23:53,807 --> 00:23:55,934 and this other guy was the animal. 464 00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:02,899 [Burns] At this point, you have to understand 465 00:24:03,024 --> 00:24:06,153 that we have two criminal defendants, 466 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:08,864 two people who just got out of prison, 467 00:24:08,989 --> 00:24:11,908 pointing the finger at each other. 468 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:15,245 We got Lance Conway Wood with blood on his shoe, 469 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:18,290 and the person that took us to the crime scene, 470 00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:21,460 telling us that he had nothing to do with it. 471 00:24:21,585 --> 00:24:23,503 And then we have Michael Anthony Archuleta, 472 00:24:23,670 --> 00:24:26,715 saying, "What does this have to do with me? 473 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,176 I did nothing, I'm here with my girlfriend, 474 00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:30,760 trying to sleep." 475 00:24:30,886 --> 00:24:33,430 [Whatcott] So we went back to Cedar City, 476 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:34,973 Thanksgiving night, 477 00:24:35,098 --> 00:24:39,478 interviewed Archuleta till wee hours in the morning. 478 00:24:40,395 --> 00:24:41,563 [crackle] 479 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:46,985 [police] I guess, why don't you just start 480 00:24:48,028 --> 00:24:52,032 and just tell us how did you meet this guy. 481 00:24:52,365 --> 00:24:54,951 [Archuleta] On Main Street. 482 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:57,662 [indistinct] 483 00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:01,166 [Whatcott] He advised us at that time, 484 00:25:01,291 --> 00:25:02,751 you know, that they were both... 485 00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:05,712 he and Wood were both willing participants in this. 486 00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:08,006 [Archuleta] Lance walked up to him. 487 00:25:09,216 --> 00:25:11,510 He grabbed his neck and tried to break it. 488 00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:15,055 He grabbed it from, like this behind and twisted it. 489 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,556 [Burns] They all lied. 490 00:25:16,723 --> 00:25:18,725 Wood lied, Archuleta lied, 491 00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:21,186 and, if you saw that scene, 492 00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:24,397 I think anybody that was even involved in that would lie, 493 00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:27,859 because you do not want to be associated with what happened. 494 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:32,322 [police] Yet Lance is saying that you killed the man. 495 00:25:33,156 --> 00:25:35,784 You're saying that Lance killed him. 496 00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:40,247 How are we gonna know who's telling the truth? 497 00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:43,500 [Archuleta] I guess it's my word against his. 498 00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:45,502 [police] Yeah, that's kind of what it is, right now, 499 00:25:45,627 --> 00:25:46,670 I guess. 500 00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:49,464 The stories just weren't making any sense. 501 00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:51,841 They weren't from the beginning. 502 00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:55,428 I've heard enough stories to know when blinds are coming. 503 00:25:55,595 --> 00:25:57,264 And I believed blinds were coming. 504 00:25:58,181 --> 00:26:00,308 [police] Things have a way of working out. 505 00:26:00,433 --> 00:26:03,228 The truth is gonna come out sooner or later. 506 00:26:03,603 --> 00:26:04,521 [Archuleta] Yeah. 507 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:06,356 [police] And it does. 508 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:09,150 Whether you want to tell me the truth or not, 509 00:26:09,276 --> 00:26:10,443 but, you know... 510 00:26:11,027 --> 00:26:14,030 I'm gonna find out what the hell the truth is. 511 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:18,994 It was a crime that needed to be solved, 512 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,704 and it's too bad, 513 00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:23,748 but in a way we owed that to Lance Conway Wood. 514 00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:27,752 But we still have him being involved in the crime 515 00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:29,462 and trying to get himself out 516 00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:32,632 by coming to tell us the things that he told us. 517 00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:33,925 And saying, look at me, 518 00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:35,885 I'm free and clean, I didn't do this. 519 00:26:36,011 --> 00:26:37,470 I'm just trying to help you guys out, 520 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:38,763 'cause I'm a good guy. 521 00:26:38,888 --> 00:26:40,682 He's not a good guy. 522 00:26:41,391 --> 00:26:44,936 [police] If what you tried to tell us thus far 523 00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:47,981 were the truth, then why were you lying to us? 524 00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:49,649 About lots of things. 525 00:26:49,816 --> 00:26:51,735 [Wood] Not lots of things. 526 00:26:53,069 --> 00:26:55,739 There is just a couple of things left out. 527 00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:58,950 [police] You need to level with us, young man, 528 00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:00,577 if that's what you want to do. 529 00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:03,371 I think that's the right and the proper thing to do. 530 00:27:03,496 --> 00:27:06,207 [Wood] And what's gonna happen to me then, though? 531 00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:09,794 [police] What do you mean, what's gonna happen to you then? 532 00:27:10,253 --> 00:27:13,048 [Wood] What's gonna happen to me then, you know? 533 00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:15,675 [police] I don't understand the question 534 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,302 "What's gonna happen to you then?" 535 00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:18,928 [Wood] Uh... 536 00:27:22,098 --> 00:27:24,392 The parts I told you what happened 537 00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:26,645 up at the murder scene was true. 538 00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:29,522 Some parts I left out. 539 00:27:29,689 --> 00:27:32,567 [police] You weren't sitting in the car this whole time. 540 00:27:32,692 --> 00:27:34,611 Don't give me that nonsense. 541 00:27:34,736 --> 00:27:36,696 [Wood] I was sitting in the car. 542 00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:37,739 [police] No, you weren't. 543 00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:38,948 [Wood] Yes, I was. 544 00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:40,450 [police] I don't believe that. 545 00:27:40,575 --> 00:27:42,827 You know, if you want to jerk us around, 546 00:27:42,952 --> 00:27:44,704 play games, I'm not gonna do that with you. 547 00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:46,498 Lance, I'm telling you that right now. 548 00:27:46,623 --> 00:27:47,874 You know, you come to us 549 00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,460 like you're kind of the victim here, 550 00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:53,713 that Archuleta did the whole darn thing, 551 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,298 and you're scared of him, 552 00:27:55,423 --> 00:27:57,384 and you didn't know what to do, and all this nonsense. 553 00:27:57,509 --> 00:28:01,054 And yet, you come with a bunch of half-truths, 554 00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:03,890 you leave out a whole bunch of stuff. 555 00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,811 It doesn't cut it, man, you know, it doesn't wash. 556 00:28:07,936 --> 00:28:09,854 You haven't told us the truth. 557 00:28:09,979 --> 00:28:12,065 And there isn't anybody in the world 558 00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:13,900 who's gonna believe that. 559 00:28:14,067 --> 00:28:17,028 And that doesn't look good for you, I don't think. 560 00:28:17,153 --> 00:28:19,280 You're sitting there and trying to... 561 00:28:20,073 --> 00:28:21,616 I don't know what the word is, 562 00:28:21,741 --> 00:28:23,451 to manipulate the system. 563 00:28:23,576 --> 00:28:26,913 You wanna get immunity, and stuff like that. 564 00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:28,331 It's not gonna work. 565 00:28:28,456 --> 00:28:31,126 I can tell you that, right up front. 566 00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:37,424 I don't see any remorse in you, 567 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:38,967 right here, right now. 568 00:28:39,092 --> 00:28:41,136 And I don't understand that. 569 00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:42,762 [Wood] Remorse? What do you mean? 570 00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:44,556 [police] You know what remorse means? 571 00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:46,558 [Wood] Yeah, I know remorse, but what? Remorse for what? 572 00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:49,394 [police] For killing a man's life! 573 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:50,979 And you were 574 00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:53,773 very much involved in that thing. 575 00:28:53,898 --> 00:28:57,402 You didn't do a damn thing to save him, did you? 576 00:28:57,819 --> 00:28:59,112 You were involved-- 577 00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:01,072 [Wood] I tell you lot of things, and... 578 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,910 I did what I had to do. 579 00:29:06,619 --> 00:29:09,873 You can believe that or not, but I can prove that. 580 00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:11,583 [police] Why, that's what you're gonna have to do, 581 00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:14,043 -[police] young man. -[Wood] I know. 582 00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:16,004 The bottom line is, 583 00:29:16,129 --> 00:29:18,298 both of those guys killed this guy. 584 00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:21,301 And nobody's more innocent than the other. 585 00:29:21,676 --> 00:29:24,345 Both of them were involved. Both of them were... 586 00:29:26,806 --> 00:29:28,183 devils. 587 00:29:28,808 --> 00:29:30,310 [ominous music] 588 00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:33,313 [Burns] I think both of them lied to the bitter end, 589 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,814 and I think if you 590 00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:36,441 interviewed them today, 591 00:29:36,566 --> 00:29:38,443 they'd lie to you today. 592 00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:41,946 Look. 593 00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:44,282 And I don't make any excuses what I did. 594 00:29:45,241 --> 00:29:47,410 But some way, and the point, 595 00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:50,538 is that I know that I didn't murder Gordon Church. 596 00:30:03,843 --> 00:30:05,136 [Stella] We were in shock. 597 00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:06,387 Utter, I mean, shock, couldn't even believe it, 598 00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:07,931 He had just been here at the house, 599 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:09,516 and I thought, Well, Mike is not capable 600 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,184 of anything that bad. 601 00:30:11,935 --> 00:30:14,813 But then I thought, you know, something, when he's drugging 602 00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:16,231 and drinking, 603 00:30:16,356 --> 00:30:18,316 I guess he's capable of just about anything. 604 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,403 [Peggy] So when the police officers came here, 605 00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:25,073 I came over and sat with Mom and Dad, 606 00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:27,075 and they went downstairs into his room 607 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,494 and found some things that 608 00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:31,120 had belonged to Gordon 609 00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:34,457 that Mike had had and left downstairs in our basement. 610 00:30:34,874 --> 00:30:36,584 And so it just it just went from there, 611 00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:39,003 you know, the nightmare began. 612 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,843 Get that [beep] camera out of my face. 613 00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,221 [Anderson] Did Mike ever admit to you what happened, 614 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:50,974 -or did he give you the details? -No. 615 00:30:52,058 --> 00:30:53,184 He's talked to Peggy 616 00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:54,811 more than to anybody else, I will say. 617 00:30:54,936 --> 00:30:56,229 He's told me, he says, 618 00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:57,981 I'll take responsibility for what I did, Mom. 619 00:30:58,106 --> 00:30:59,858 He says, and I know what you've heard. 620 00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:01,150 Here's what I want you to know, 621 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:02,318 that I didn't do those horrible things, 622 00:31:02,443 --> 00:31:03,695 but I did do some. 623 00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:05,613 It's just shocking. 624 00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:07,574 You just can't even believe that 625 00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:10,535 my little brother, this little boy that I, you know, 626 00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:12,161 that I watched grow up, 627 00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:13,955 that I knew was a troubled young man, 628 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,458 that he was capable of doing such things. 629 00:31:20,086 --> 00:31:21,880 Archuleta's parents 630 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:23,882 were good people. 631 00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:27,302 [Dekker] He was in a very 632 00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:31,264 loving family setting with his adopted parents. 633 00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:33,016 Oh, he was an adorable little boy. 634 00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:35,894 First time I saw him, he was hell on wheels. 635 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:38,938 [Peggy] We went to the adoption agency, 636 00:31:39,063 --> 00:31:40,148 and they had him there to meet us. 637 00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:41,816 And there was the cutest little boy 638 00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:43,359 with a head full of curls. 639 00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:44,903 And he was sitting in the middle of the floor, 640 00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:46,571 and he'd emptied a whole box of crayons, 641 00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:48,197 and he was just throwing them in the air, 642 00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:50,491 just like raining down on him and laughing. 643 00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:54,329 And we're like, whoa, but that was Michael. 644 00:31:55,121 --> 00:31:56,539 I mean, he was all over the place. 645 00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:58,458 And I looked at him, and we were gonna take him forever, 646 00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:00,501 and I knew that little boy's gonna be mine. 647 00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:04,964 [Peggy] He arrived with a paper bag 648 00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:06,841 With some white t-shirts 649 00:32:06,966 --> 00:32:08,885 and maybe a pair of jeans. 650 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:10,970 Those were his worldly belongings. 651 00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:13,973 He'd come to the door and he says, "Hi, I'm Michael." 652 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:17,560 And I says, "And I'm Stella." 653 00:32:17,685 --> 00:32:20,396 "Are you my mom?" I says, "Yeah, I'll be your mom." 654 00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:22,482 [Peggy] When we met Mike, 655 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:25,276 he had been in foster care for a number of years, 656 00:32:25,401 --> 00:32:28,321 and he had been placed in numerous foster homes. 657 00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:31,574 [Stella] They told us seven different foster homes 658 00:32:31,699 --> 00:32:33,534 in a four-year period. 659 00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:35,078 [Peggy] From what we gathered, 660 00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:36,663 he'd been born to a teenage mother. 661 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:38,289 His mother had, 662 00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:41,167 at 16, had actively been engaged 663 00:32:41,334 --> 00:32:44,087 in drugs, alcohol and prostitution. 664 00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:46,172 And he had scars on his bottom, 665 00:32:46,297 --> 00:32:50,259 like he'd sat on or been sat on a hot grate. 666 00:32:50,385 --> 00:32:53,012 He had little criss-crosses, and he had 667 00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:56,599 cigarette burn marks on his legs. 668 00:32:57,517 --> 00:32:59,018 [Stella] One time, I had to go to his school, 669 00:32:59,185 --> 00:33:00,520 'cause they called me and told me 670 00:33:00,687 --> 00:33:02,230 Mike has barricaded himself in the bathroom 671 00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:05,233 with a ball bat, and he won't let nobody in. 672 00:33:05,858 --> 00:33:07,235 So I went over there, 673 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,362 and I knocked on the door, 674 00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:11,114 I says, "Mike, are you in there?" 675 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:13,533 And he says, "Yes, I'm not coming out." 676 00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,410 I says, "Well, let me in." He says, "Okay." 677 00:33:15,535 --> 00:33:17,078 So I went in, and I talked to him 678 00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:19,372 and I got him out and I took him home. 679 00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:20,790 They says, Well, 680 00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:22,583 we can't have him in class, he's too disruptive. 681 00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:24,460 [Peggy] He was a troublemaker. 682 00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:26,754 He just seemed to always be in, you know, in trouble. 683 00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:29,757 Not that he was maliciously trying to get in trouble, 684 00:33:29,882 --> 00:33:32,301 but he just always found it. 685 00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:34,262 [Stella] Went out for Halloween, 686 00:33:34,387 --> 00:33:35,763 he says, "Those hippies in that apartment down there 687 00:33:35,888 --> 00:33:38,016 put razor blades in my apple." 688 00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:40,476 And I says, 689 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:42,729 "What happened?" I mean, 690 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,188 "Did they check them out?" 691 00:33:44,313 --> 00:33:45,940 they're not supposed to give out apples, anyway." 692 00:33:46,065 --> 00:33:47,400 "No," he says, "It had razor blades." 693 00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:49,068 Well, my mother called me in the other room 694 00:33:49,193 --> 00:33:51,738 and she says, "Well, Jerry and I watched him, 695 00:33:51,904 --> 00:33:54,574 and he put the razor blades in that apple himself. 696 00:33:54,741 --> 00:33:56,242 He's trying to get somebody else in trouble." 697 00:33:56,993 --> 00:34:01,914 [Peggy] He was always getting expelled or asked to leave, 698 00:34:02,081 --> 00:34:04,709 or he couldn't go back. 699 00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:08,671 And so, he had to go to school somewhere, 700 00:34:08,796 --> 00:34:11,090 and so he started going into facilities 701 00:34:11,257 --> 00:34:14,302 in order to be able to go to school. 702 00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:18,222 It seems like he turned 13 at the state hospital. 703 00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:23,269 And when he came back from there, 704 00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:26,189 he was different, he was more quiet, 705 00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:28,483 more subdued, more... 706 00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:31,652 He wasn't so out in the open with everything he did. 707 00:34:31,778 --> 00:34:33,446 He was kind of like more secretive. 708 00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:36,407 We didn't learn it at the time, we found out since. 709 00:34:36,532 --> 00:34:39,035 There was, a psych tech, they call him, 710 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,286 that had befriended him, 711 00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:42,246 and used to take him home on weekends 712 00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:43,831 to help him do yard work. 713 00:34:43,956 --> 00:34:45,708 And we found out then that 714 00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:47,960 that he had been sexually abusing Michael. 715 00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:51,631 [Stella] And when he came out, he was acting up more than ever. 716 00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:53,674 He was sneaking cigarettes and beer 717 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,886 and sneaking out the window and little things like that. 718 00:34:57,011 --> 00:34:59,972 [Peggy] He even went looking for the person years later, 719 00:35:00,139 --> 00:35:01,307 you know, going to the house 720 00:35:01,474 --> 00:35:02,642 where he remembered going to help 721 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,353 work in the yard, looking for him to... 722 00:35:06,312 --> 00:35:08,314 get even, retaliate, I don't know. 723 00:35:08,439 --> 00:35:09,565 But he had a lot of anger 724 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:11,609 and a lot of bitterness about that. 725 00:35:16,072 --> 00:35:18,407 [cheerful piano music] 726 00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:25,331 [Anderson] Lance Wood grew up in Bountiful, Utah, 727 00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:27,166 in a very loving LDS family. 728 00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:29,168 He was the youngest of four kids, 729 00:35:29,335 --> 00:35:30,878 and had a pretty happy childhood. 730 00:35:31,003 --> 00:35:33,297 [Wood] I found out that I was adopted, 731 00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:36,467 I believe, when I was 12 years old. 732 00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:41,806 I can't say that was the beginning of my problems, 733 00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:44,100 but it did escalate from there, 734 00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:45,977 in all sense of the word. 735 00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,770 I should have went to college, I should have, you know... 736 00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:49,313 Given all the things that I went through, 737 00:35:49,438 --> 00:35:51,149 and yet I chose a criminal life, 738 00:35:51,274 --> 00:35:52,567 and just not the murder, 739 00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:54,694 but my extensive criminal activity 740 00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:55,862 prior to that. 741 00:35:56,028 --> 00:35:57,822 And there was really no sense of it. 742 00:35:57,947 --> 00:36:00,533 I mean, I was stealing things that 743 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:02,702 I didn't want or need, 744 00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,954 you know, so maybe it was oppression. 745 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:06,247 when I was being oppressive 746 00:36:12,211 --> 00:36:15,506 [Anderson] Tell me when you first met Archuleta. 747 00:36:15,965 --> 00:36:17,758 [Wood] In, I think... 748 00:36:17,884 --> 00:36:20,219 Cedar City Correctional Facility. 749 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,556 [Anderson] Now, you've now been paroled. 750 00:36:23,723 --> 00:36:26,893 And how is it you both ended up back down here in Cedar City? 751 00:36:27,518 --> 00:36:30,188 [Wood] Because of Paula. Paula Jones. 752 00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,898 [Anderson] Okay. It's a girlfriend. 753 00:36:32,064 --> 00:36:33,900 And you ended up here because of... 754 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:34,942 [Wood] Brenda. 755 00:36:35,318 --> 00:36:36,235 [Anderson] Brenda. 756 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,653 [Wood] And Paula, yeah. 757 00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:39,197 Paula and Brenda are living together. 758 00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:40,364 [Anderson] Okay, so prison inmates 759 00:36:40,489 --> 00:36:41,824 meet local girls, 760 00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:43,868 and come back to live there. Okay. 761 00:36:43,993 --> 00:36:47,330 [upbeat piano music] 762 00:36:50,082 --> 00:36:51,834 And he was a nice-looking guy. 763 00:36:51,959 --> 00:36:56,547 Not something that you would expect to see behind bars. 764 00:36:58,257 --> 00:37:01,302 [Wood] Well, she worked as a DJ at the radio station. 765 00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:04,722 I called them up and donated some tapes 766 00:37:06,265 --> 00:37:09,143 and we kind of got hooked up from there. 767 00:37:09,268 --> 00:37:11,687 Well, of course it was behind glass, 768 00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:14,106 but he would call, 769 00:37:14,523 --> 00:37:16,859 and so we would talk for hours. 770 00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:18,861 A lot of it was, you know, 771 00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:22,031 about how he could change his life 772 00:37:22,156 --> 00:37:24,325 once he got paroled out. 773 00:37:25,701 --> 00:37:28,037 We were supposed to get married. 774 00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:33,251 Things worked a little different once he got out. 775 00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:37,588 [Wood] It's fortunate, probably, that we didn't get married, 776 00:37:37,713 --> 00:37:41,550 and, you know, and all this, but... 777 00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:46,931 It was difficult for her. 778 00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:51,602 Lance was lazy, you know? 779 00:37:51,727 --> 00:37:53,938 The things that we had talked about... 780 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,402 It wasn't the same, and there was just 781 00:38:00,069 --> 00:38:01,946 a very strange feeling. 782 00:38:04,448 --> 00:38:05,825 [Wood] Relationships that I had, 783 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:08,286 had not been meaningful relationships, 784 00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:10,913 and the feeling of love is there, 785 00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:13,332 but it's always the next one, you know. 786 00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:15,293 After that one, I wanted to move on 787 00:38:15,418 --> 00:38:16,711 to the next one and the next one. 788 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:18,879 It was no difference with Brenda. 789 00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:23,676 [Brenda] And so I had an apartment set up for him, 790 00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:26,387 and the original plan was just, 791 00:38:26,512 --> 00:38:28,889 you know, Paula and me and... 792 00:38:31,392 --> 00:38:32,977 Lance, to live there. 793 00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:36,689 [Peggy] And so Mike and Paula started a relationship. 794 00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:38,441 I think he thought he was gonna go down there 795 00:38:38,566 --> 00:38:41,193 and be with her and they were gonna get married 796 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,862 and live happily ever after. 797 00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,573 And then we found out that Mike was on his way 798 00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:47,992 up to Cedar City. 799 00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:50,619 [Wood] Me and Brenda, you know, we're scared. 800 00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:53,581 We informed my parole officer beforehand, 801 00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:57,960 and they said they knew that something was gonna happen. 802 00:38:58,085 --> 00:38:59,628 And I warned them, 803 00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:02,465 and they didn't take precautions. 804 00:39:02,923 --> 00:39:04,175 [police] Did he ever threaten you 805 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,843 during any of these contacts? 806 00:39:06,218 --> 00:39:07,470 [Wood] Not really, 807 00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:09,597 but you could tell that he 808 00:39:09,722 --> 00:39:12,183 had some kind of problem with me. 809 00:39:12,892 --> 00:39:14,560 [police] How could you tell? 810 00:39:14,685 --> 00:39:16,354 [Wood] He just had this attitude towards me. 811 00:39:17,229 --> 00:39:19,273 [police] When, or did you and him ever leave alone? 812 00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:21,400 Did you and him ever leave alone? 813 00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:23,277 [Wood] 7-Eleven, sometimes. 814 00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:24,862 [click] 815 00:39:24,987 --> 00:39:26,781 [questioner] Can you tell the court and the jury 816 00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:28,699 when the last time was that you recall seeing Gordon? 817 00:39:29,825 --> 00:39:32,703 [David] November the 19th, 1988. 818 00:39:33,662 --> 00:39:35,956 We had gone down to Cedar City, 819 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:37,792 to see our boys. 820 00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,587 Gordon didn't make too much money at K-Mart, 821 00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:43,172 and I was always concerned 822 00:39:43,297 --> 00:39:45,132 whether he had enough money or not. 823 00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:47,093 I asked him to... 824 00:39:47,426 --> 00:39:49,929 you know, how things were going financially. 825 00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:52,098 I tried to do that in private and those kind of things, 826 00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:54,850 because he hated to take money from me. 827 00:39:54,975 --> 00:39:56,477 I asked him how he was doing, 828 00:39:56,602 --> 00:39:58,562 and he said, "Fine, pretty good." 829 00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:01,273 And that's what he always used to say, "pretty good." 830 00:40:01,899 --> 00:40:03,317 And I always knew that meant, 831 00:40:03,442 --> 00:40:04,693 "not really well." 832 00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:07,863 So I just gave him a 20 dollar bill. 833 00:40:08,447 --> 00:40:09,657 [engine rumbling] 834 00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:12,535 [Loy] The last time I spoke to Gordon 835 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:14,578 I was sitting in my car. 836 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,330 And I looked up, 837 00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:18,499 and I saw Gordon with his backpack on, 838 00:40:18,624 --> 00:40:19,917 and I had a feeling 839 00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:21,502 it was the last time I was gonna see him. 840 00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:26,257 [Kathy] Gordon and I were supposed to get together 841 00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:30,302 to go to dinner, it was the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. 842 00:40:30,803 --> 00:40:32,847 He had called and said that he was going to run 843 00:40:32,972 --> 00:40:34,765 to the 7-Eleven to grab cigarettes 844 00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:36,892 and then he was going to be over and 845 00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:39,353 we waited, I think, about two hours. 846 00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:40,896 [ominous music] 847 00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:49,321 According to Lance, this is where they met Gordon. 848 00:40:49,989 --> 00:40:52,575 And Gordon agreed to give them a ride around. 849 00:40:53,617 --> 00:40:54,952 [police] You'd never met this-- 850 00:40:55,077 --> 00:40:56,996 [Wood] I never met this guy before. 851 00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:58,747 [police] What did he tell you, did he live there in Cedar? 852 00:40:58,873 --> 00:41:00,166 [Wood] Yeah, he told me he lived there in Cedar. 853 00:41:00,332 --> 00:41:01,709 Lived with his grandma, 854 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,752 explained about his family on the way up. 855 00:41:05,212 --> 00:41:07,381 [Wood] Him and Mike communicated the most 856 00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:08,424 during that period of time. 857 00:41:08,549 --> 00:41:10,593 My concentration was the women, 858 00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:12,511 you know, driving up and down in the cars. 859 00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:14,555 You're trying to get them pulled over. 860 00:41:16,015 --> 00:41:17,641 And that's what I believe 861 00:41:17,766 --> 00:41:19,143 all of us were trying to do at that moment. 862 00:41:19,518 --> 00:41:20,603 Uh... 863 00:41:22,688 --> 00:41:24,023 [Dekker] I'm not sure when 864 00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:27,818 we found out that Gordon was a homosexual, 865 00:41:27,943 --> 00:41:29,945 or that... 866 00:41:30,696 --> 00:41:32,740 these guys may have been homosexual, 867 00:41:32,865 --> 00:41:35,117 these guys being Archuleta and Wood. 868 00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:37,703 My biggest thing is, 869 00:41:37,828 --> 00:41:40,414 is reflecting back now, was that he knew Gordon. 870 00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:42,625 You know, he knew whether-- 871 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:44,585 He just didn't meet him that night. 872 00:41:45,544 --> 00:41:46,795 I mean, it wasn't like, 873 00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:47,922 "Hey, can we go cruising with you?" 874 00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:49,548 or, "Hey, take us cruising." 875 00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:50,925 It was like, "Hey, get in the car." 876 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:52,760 Like he already had talked to him. 877 00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:55,763 He'd developed some kind of rapport with Gordon. 878 00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:57,806 [ominous music continues] 879 00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:01,393 They went up to Canyon Cedar City for what? 880 00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:03,979 They went up there for one reason. 881 00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,608 They were gonna have sex with Gordon. 882 00:42:11,111 --> 00:42:13,989 And they ended up going to a place they call Pussy Hollow. 883 00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:17,159 [police] Did the subject of sex come up? 884 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:20,663 [Wood] Yeah, that's when he told us he was a homosexual. 885 00:42:20,788 --> 00:42:22,122 [police] Out there by the river? 886 00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:24,542 [Wood] Yeah. [unintelligible] up there. 887 00:42:25,042 --> 00:42:25,960 [unintelligible] 888 00:42:27,002 --> 00:42:29,588 And I think it just took off from there, 889 00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:31,006 that, you know, 890 00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:34,885 we're gonna go work this gay guy over. 891 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,347 [Wood] My first thought was, 892 00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:42,393 there was a time we used to go to Salt Lake and... 893 00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:45,396 go to the graveyard and roam. 894 00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,023 Steal their jackets, you know, 895 00:42:48,148 --> 00:42:49,775 and [unclear], you know, 896 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:52,278 gay individuals who were out there we would roam, 897 00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:53,320 we would chase them. 898 00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,406 [ominous music] 899 00:42:55,906 --> 00:42:57,866 That was my thought we were gonna do. 900 00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:01,161 [police] Was there any argument or anything? 901 00:43:01,287 --> 00:43:04,081 Was there anybody mad at anybody? 902 00:43:04,498 --> 00:43:05,708 [Archuleta] Not at that point. 903 00:43:05,833 --> 00:43:07,710 You know, everything was okay. 904 00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:11,297 [Wood] I believe, after a while, 905 00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:13,048 nothing happened, so I told them, let's go. 906 00:43:13,465 --> 00:43:15,134 And that's when Mike pulled out a knife 907 00:43:15,259 --> 00:43:16,927 and put it to Gordon's throat. 908 00:43:17,052 --> 00:43:18,887 I reached out and grabbed his elbow. 909 00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:21,599 That's when he kind of shot me 910 00:43:21,724 --> 00:43:23,100 a look, a cold look. 911 00:43:23,517 --> 00:43:25,227 And Gordon took off at that time. 912 00:43:26,395 --> 00:43:27,688 [Whatcott] He'd broke and run 913 00:43:27,813 --> 00:43:29,356 and they tackled him and he broke his arm. 914 00:43:29,481 --> 00:43:31,442 [police] What did you do while he took off running 915 00:43:31,567 --> 00:43:33,193 after this stuff? 916 00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:34,653 [Archuleta] I was just sitting there, standing there. 917 00:43:34,778 --> 00:43:36,572 Freaking out, [unintelligible] 918 00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:38,240 And when they came back, 919 00:43:38,365 --> 00:43:40,326 that's when Lance cut his throat, 920 00:43:40,451 --> 00:43:42,745 he cut him, and I said, "Oh my God." 921 00:43:43,579 --> 00:43:45,581 I didn't think he'd do it, you know. 922 00:43:46,123 --> 00:43:48,083 It wasn't until after he caught him 923 00:43:48,208 --> 00:43:50,461 and brought him back up to the car, 924 00:43:50,586 --> 00:43:51,712 that he cut him again. 925 00:43:52,504 --> 00:43:54,465 And so that's where you get the X mark. 926 00:43:55,591 --> 00:43:59,219 He was calling out that he has pain in his shoulders. 927 00:44:00,012 --> 00:44:01,680 His leg hurt. 928 00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:03,891 [Archuleta] Lance kept telling him, 929 00:44:04,016 --> 00:44:05,225 "You say anything, 930 00:44:07,102 --> 00:44:09,063 we know you got family," 931 00:44:10,856 --> 00:44:13,108 that he would kill his family, too. 932 00:44:14,234 --> 00:44:15,152 He, uh... 933 00:44:16,111 --> 00:44:17,821 bent Gordon over the... 934 00:44:18,864 --> 00:44:19,907 the... 935 00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:21,325 the hood of the car. 936 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,161 [slam] 937 00:44:24,286 --> 00:44:26,413 [Wood] And the dude said, "I want you to use a condom." 938 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:28,707 [police] Who's the dude? The victim? 939 00:44:28,874 --> 00:44:31,335 [Wood] Yeah, and he gave Archuleta a condom. 940 00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:34,380 [Archuleta] He pulled out the rubber. 941 00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:36,048 Handed it to me. He said, 942 00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,677 Gordon said, "Yeah, it's your game. 943 00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:42,721 Do it to me." 944 00:44:43,097 --> 00:44:44,890 He was asking for it, I couldn't believe it. 945 00:44:45,015 --> 00:44:46,308 [police] Did he? 946 00:44:46,433 --> 00:44:47,559 'Cause the guy had his throat cut, 947 00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,144 his arm may be broke, 948 00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:50,979 and banged up 949 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:52,648 and he's undoubtedly worried, 950 00:44:52,773 --> 00:44:55,150 scared to death that you're gonna kill him, right? 951 00:44:56,151 --> 00:44:58,529 That don't make sense, that he's asking you to 952 00:44:59,238 --> 00:45:01,532 have sex with him at that point, does it? 953 00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:03,450 [Archuleta] No, it don't. 954 00:45:04,326 --> 00:45:05,953 [police] Did you have sex with this guy? 955 00:45:06,078 --> 00:45:07,371 [Archuleta] No, I didn't. 956 00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:08,956 [police] Did Lance? 957 00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,666 [Archuleta] I didn't see him, or anything. 958 00:45:10,791 --> 00:45:13,877 Mike then turned to me and asked me if I wanted any. 959 00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:16,505 I shook my head, negative. 960 00:45:17,798 --> 00:45:20,718 [Archuleta] There's only one part that I'm lying about. 961 00:45:21,844 --> 00:45:23,095 [police] And what is it? 962 00:45:24,054 --> 00:45:26,765 [Archuleta] It wasn't forcible or anything. 963 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,183 He wanted it. 964 00:45:28,308 --> 00:45:30,477 [police] This is straight up, okay? 965 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:32,938 [Archuleta] I did enter him, 966 00:45:33,105 --> 00:45:34,398 and I backed right out. 967 00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:35,607 I could-- 968 00:45:36,316 --> 00:45:38,152 I don't even know why I did that. 969 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:40,571 I'd never done it with anybody else before, 970 00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:41,989 not even a woman. 971 00:45:44,158 --> 00:45:46,869 I don't get off on getting down on guys. 972 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,163 [unsettling music] 973 00:45:54,042 --> 00:45:55,794 [Anderson] When Gordon got put in the trunk of that car, 974 00:45:55,919 --> 00:45:58,422 what did he think was gonna happen to him next? 975 00:46:00,966 --> 00:46:03,886 Exactly what I think we all knew was gonna happen next. 976 00:46:05,512 --> 00:46:07,431 He knew he was... gonna die. 977 00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:10,184 [engine starts] 978 00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:12,394 [heavy breathing] 979 00:46:12,936 --> 00:46:15,439 [Anderson] They drove from Cedar Canyon 980 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:16,982 to mile marker 138, 981 00:46:17,149 --> 00:46:19,276 so that's got to be 70, 80 miles, 982 00:46:19,401 --> 00:46:22,529 It's got to be over an hour in the trunk of a car. 983 00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:26,366 [Anderson] That hour or so, 984 00:46:26,492 --> 00:46:27,785 as they drove north, 985 00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:29,077 is the hardest part of the story for me. 986 00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:31,288 Knowing that he was in that trunk, 987 00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:34,082 having been raped, with broken bones, 988 00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:36,877 bleeding and gagged and in chains. 989 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:41,423 Was he praying, was he weeping, 990 00:46:41,548 --> 00:46:43,926 was he calling out for his mother? 991 00:46:44,343 --> 00:46:45,010 [click] 992 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:47,346 [Nancy] Well, he didn't like elevators. 993 00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:50,641 He would use the stairs before he would use an elevator. 994 00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:52,559 He didn't like to be 995 00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:55,145 closed in a room without a window in it. 996 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,690 He didn't like to have anything held over his head. 997 00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:03,070 Just, he didn't like to be where he felt he couldn't get out. 998 00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:05,697 [police] Were you talking to him at all? 999 00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:07,366 [Archuleta] Yes. 1000 00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:09,993 Yelled back there, and asked him if he was okay. 1001 00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:12,204 Said, "Yeah, I'm alright." 1002 00:47:12,621 --> 00:47:14,706 All I know is Archuleta was yelling back there, 1003 00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:15,833 "Don't break the lights, 1004 00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:17,709 don't mess with the lights." 1005 00:47:17,876 --> 00:47:19,169 Stuff like that. 1006 00:47:19,294 --> 00:47:20,629 Church was just saying, "Okay, okay." 1007 00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:22,297 And how Lance told it, 1008 00:47:22,422 --> 00:47:23,757 saying we're gonna go up to Bountiful, 1009 00:47:23,882 --> 00:47:25,133 where he is from. 1010 00:47:25,259 --> 00:47:27,302 They were gonna drive Gordon's car off 1011 00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:29,847 this cliff. 1012 00:47:29,972 --> 00:47:30,973 [tense music] 1013 00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:32,850 [Archuleta] Lance kept saying, "Well, 1014 00:47:33,725 --> 00:47:35,602 if we just leave him in the trunk 1015 00:47:35,727 --> 00:47:36,812 someone can pick him up," 1016 00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:39,022 so we went to Dead Man's Point 1017 00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,525 to let the car go off the edge. 1018 00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:44,278 They'll never find it there. 1019 00:47:45,445 --> 00:47:46,905 [police] What'd you say to that? 1020 00:47:47,072 --> 00:47:48,615 [Archuleta] Said, "You're crazy, man." 1021 00:47:48,740 --> 00:47:51,660 We're both in a lot of trouble right now as it is. 1022 00:47:51,785 --> 00:47:53,245 I told him, just-- 1023 00:47:53,912 --> 00:47:57,541 "Leave the car, let the dude go, and let's get out of here." 1024 00:47:58,250 --> 00:48:00,210 Lance kept saying, "He's gonna rat on us, 1025 00:48:00,335 --> 00:48:01,879 he's gonna rat on us." 1026 00:48:04,673 --> 00:48:06,592 [Dekker] He said they got driving along, 1027 00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:08,594 he says they got up north, 1028 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,888 to the Dog Valley off-ramp. 1029 00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:14,099 [Wood] Archuleta pulled off right here. 1030 00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,184 [police] Did he say anything at this point? 1031 00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:17,102 He just pulled off? 1032 00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:18,395 [Wood] Yeah. 1033 00:48:19,104 --> 00:48:20,522 [Dekker] They went underneath the freeway 1034 00:48:20,647 --> 00:48:23,275 and went to the west, and north a little ways, 1035 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,402 and stopped in the middle of the roadway. 1036 00:48:25,861 --> 00:48:26,987 [tense music] 1037 00:48:30,616 --> 00:48:32,451 [Phillips] You know, Gordon just terrified, 1038 00:48:32,576 --> 00:48:34,745 scared to death, he'd already been through 1039 00:48:35,454 --> 00:48:38,081 a beating or two, and a rape. 1040 00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:39,374 And... 1041 00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:41,919 all in all, they were gonna kill him here 1042 00:48:42,044 --> 00:48:43,629 or whatever, and... 1043 00:48:43,795 --> 00:48:46,673 they were trying to assure him everything was gonna be okay. 1044 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:49,217 I think, one of the first things, 1045 00:48:49,343 --> 00:48:51,053 when they got him out of the trunk of the car, 1046 00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:53,722 was an attempt by Archuleta 1047 00:48:54,139 --> 00:48:55,515 to break his neck. 1048 00:48:57,225 --> 00:48:59,019 [Wood] I heard the guy fall. 1049 00:49:00,896 --> 00:49:02,314 And Archuleta's talking to him, 1050 00:49:02,481 --> 00:49:03,565 [unclear] 1051 00:49:03,982 --> 00:49:06,401 I guess he was crying, saying, "Please," you know. 1052 00:49:06,526 --> 00:49:09,321 [Masner] He said that they took battery cable 1053 00:49:09,446 --> 00:49:12,199 and they tried to jump-start him. 1054 00:49:13,659 --> 00:49:15,118 [Dekker] A couple of real geniuses, 1055 00:49:15,243 --> 00:49:16,495 I don't know what they're thinking about. 1056 00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:18,872 They're gonna electrocute him or whatever. 1057 00:49:19,581 --> 00:49:21,500 [police] Tell me how he hooked him up. 1058 00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:24,419 [Wood] Clipped them on and said, "Go for it." 1059 00:49:25,629 --> 00:49:28,757 I don't know whether they were feeding off of one another, like 1060 00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:30,634 "Look what I've done." 1061 00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:33,595 "I'm gonna do something worse. 1062 00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:35,514 Something more horrific." 1063 00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:37,140 What he did, 1064 00:49:37,265 --> 00:49:38,725 it didn't work, I guess, 1065 00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:40,102 because he reached in the trunk 1066 00:49:40,227 --> 00:49:41,853 and grabbed the tire iron 1067 00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:43,605 out of the trunk 1068 00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:45,399 and started beating the guy on the head, 1069 00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:46,733 I don't know how many times. 1070 00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:49,152 Then, I guess that didn't work, 1071 00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:52,030 'cause he reached in and grabbed the jack, 1072 00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:54,491 what you jack up the car with 1073 00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:56,201 and brought that out. 1074 00:49:56,368 --> 00:49:59,997 He's bringing it to full swing on that, 1075 00:50:00,372 --> 00:50:02,874 Just like you would swing an axe or something. 1076 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,834 [thud] 1077 00:50:03,959 --> 00:50:04,793 [Masner] It was just... 1078 00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:06,545 a lot of blood. 1079 00:50:07,129 --> 00:50:09,047 Really a lot of blood on there. 1080 00:50:09,214 --> 00:50:10,549 [unsettling music] 1081 00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:11,633 [thud] 1082 00:50:14,553 --> 00:50:15,429 [thud] 1083 00:50:16,596 --> 00:50:18,432 [Anderson] You didn't beat Gordon? 1084 00:50:19,182 --> 00:50:20,142 I didn't beat Gordon. 1085 00:50:20,267 --> 00:50:21,351 Did you punch him? 1086 00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:24,187 -I didn't punch him. -Did you kick him? 1087 00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:26,273 I didn't kick him. 1088 00:50:26,398 --> 00:50:27,941 And you're saying that you stayed in the car 1089 00:50:28,066 --> 00:50:30,152 while Mike beat Gordon to death? 1090 00:50:31,611 --> 00:50:32,612 Yeah. 1091 00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:35,741 [Wood] I didn't even hear when he got him out of the trunk 1092 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,951 I just heard a crack, and I looked up. 1093 00:50:38,410 --> 00:50:41,163 Wham, hit him in the back of the head with a 1094 00:50:42,998 --> 00:50:44,916 He looked at me all wild 1095 00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:46,460 and took a swing at me. 1096 00:50:47,502 --> 00:50:49,546 And I got out of the car 1097 00:50:49,963 --> 00:50:52,299 and I think what he'd done is he took the... 1098 00:50:52,924 --> 00:50:55,469 tire iron and shoved it up the guy's anal. 1099 00:50:58,597 --> 00:50:59,431 It was so brutal. 1100 00:50:59,556 --> 00:51:01,808 It was so ugly, it was so mean, 1101 00:51:01,933 --> 00:51:02,976 and I think, what-- 1102 00:51:03,101 --> 00:51:05,604 What causes somebody to do that? 1103 00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:06,521 [unsettling music] 1104 00:51:07,272 --> 00:51:09,983 [Phillips] But they dragged him off in this direction here. 1105 00:51:10,442 --> 00:51:12,486 And we found him up here under 1106 00:51:13,111 --> 00:51:14,237 a tree. 1107 00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:18,617 Probably... 1108 00:51:18,784 --> 00:51:20,327 could have been any one of these trees, 1109 00:51:20,452 --> 00:51:23,163 but he was kinda tucked up under 1110 00:51:23,288 --> 00:51:26,249 the boughs of one of these cedar trees 1111 00:51:27,042 --> 00:51:28,627 and somewhat concealed. 1112 00:51:29,127 --> 00:51:32,255 You know, and if, in reality, if... 1113 00:51:32,881 --> 00:51:36,343 Wood hadn't buckled his knees and got 1114 00:51:36,885 --> 00:51:38,428 trying to cover his ass, 1115 00:51:38,845 --> 00:51:40,055 it's hard to say 1116 00:51:40,472 --> 00:51:42,140 how long it would have been before 1117 00:51:42,307 --> 00:51:44,601 Gordon's body would have been discovered here. 1118 00:51:48,063 --> 00:51:49,272 [music fades] 1119 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,901 Mike and Lance drove Gordon's car 1120 00:51:53,026 --> 00:51:54,319 to Salt Lake City. 1121 00:51:54,444 --> 00:51:55,904 [newscaster] Millard County deputies 1122 00:51:56,029 --> 00:51:57,614 searched the hillside to find more clues, 1123 00:51:57,739 --> 00:51:59,449 but two key pieces of evidence 1124 00:51:59,574 --> 00:52:02,828 were found 175 miles north in Salt Lake county. 1125 00:52:02,994 --> 00:52:05,372 And then Mike left this... 1126 00:52:05,914 --> 00:52:07,582 his murder victim's car 1127 00:52:07,707 --> 00:52:10,627 in the lot at his brother's apartment complex. 1128 00:52:10,752 --> 00:52:12,462 [newscaster] Earlier today, officers picked up 1129 00:52:12,587 --> 00:52:14,339 a pair of blood-covered men's Levi's 1130 00:52:14,506 --> 00:52:16,341 on I15 at 45th South, 1131 00:52:16,508 --> 00:52:20,262 and impounded this 1978 Ford T-Bird in West Valley City. 1132 00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:21,972 Investigators found blood smeared 1133 00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:24,683 in the back seat and trunk of the car. 1134 00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:25,976 So Mike and Lance went on 1135 00:52:26,101 --> 00:52:27,686 a weird series of misadventures 1136 00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:30,689 as they kind of hitch-hiked their way back to Cedar City. 1137 00:52:31,314 --> 00:52:33,066 Mike and Lance ended up in Salem, 1138 00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,485 at Mike's home, 1139 00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:38,405 and his father Amos made them eggs. 1140 00:52:38,530 --> 00:52:40,198 Mike went down into his childhood bedroom, 1141 00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:42,951 which is where he left Gordon's watch. 1142 00:52:43,076 --> 00:52:44,703 So again, he left Gordon's car 1143 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:46,371 at his brother's apartment complex, 1144 00:52:46,538 --> 00:52:48,623 he left Gordon's watch in his parents' home, 1145 00:52:48,748 --> 00:52:50,584 for the police to go gather this evidence later, 1146 00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,919 and they sat with his father and ate eggs. 1147 00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:56,798 When they got back to the apartment, 1148 00:52:57,382 --> 00:53:00,760 Mike had sex with his girlfriend and fell asleep. 1149 00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:03,221 Lance went and talked to his friend Tony, 1150 00:53:03,555 --> 00:53:06,057 and came up with the plan to turn himself in, 1151 00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:08,685 so he went down to the same 7-Eleven 1152 00:53:08,810 --> 00:53:10,937 where he had picked up Gordon initially, 1153 00:53:11,313 --> 00:53:12,898 and called his parole officer, 1154 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,317 John Grath, and said, "I just witnessed a murder, 1155 00:53:15,442 --> 00:53:16,484 please come pick me up." 1156 00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:20,071 Before John arrived, Lance threw away Gordon's wallet 1157 00:53:20,238 --> 00:53:23,200 out of his own pocket, right there at the gas station. 1158 00:53:23,909 --> 00:53:24,784 [reflective music] 1159 00:53:25,619 --> 00:53:28,371 [Dekker] But I believe that it was a hate crime, simply, 1160 00:53:29,414 --> 00:53:31,583 because of the way he was treated, 1161 00:53:31,708 --> 00:53:33,251 the raping, 1162 00:53:33,418 --> 00:53:36,421 the breaking of arms and the jaws and the 1163 00:53:36,588 --> 00:53:38,298 wrapping him in chains... 1164 00:53:39,424 --> 00:53:40,550 I'm-- 1165 00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:45,680 I think it started out as a hate crime. 1166 00:53:45,805 --> 00:53:47,557 I wouldn't know if the murder would be a hate crime, 1167 00:53:47,682 --> 00:53:49,434 but I believe that it started out to be hate, 1168 00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:51,311 'cause of who he was. 1169 00:53:52,854 --> 00:53:56,107 [Kathy] Wood and Archuleta targeted Gordon, 1170 00:53:56,274 --> 00:53:58,526 merely for the fact that he was gay, 1171 00:53:58,652 --> 00:54:01,571 and they were they were out to teach the... 1172 00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:04,449 "the faggot" a lesson, 1173 00:54:04,616 --> 00:54:06,493 and that's not a word that I use lightly. 1174 00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:09,871 You know, I always believed that Archuleta had 1175 00:54:09,996 --> 00:54:11,998 homosexual tendencies, 1176 00:54:12,123 --> 00:54:14,042 and rage about that. 1177 00:54:14,167 --> 00:54:17,545 He chose the manner of death, I think, to send a message. 1178 00:54:17,963 --> 00:54:20,048 [Peggy] Oh, well, my brother Michael does not 1179 00:54:20,173 --> 00:54:22,092 consider the crime a hate crime. 1180 00:54:22,509 --> 00:54:25,387 He considers it more of a crime of 1181 00:54:25,512 --> 00:54:27,305 excessive drug and alcohol, 1182 00:54:27,472 --> 00:54:30,517 and a whole lifetime of making bad choices. 1183 00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:32,560 But he just really felt like 1184 00:54:32,686 --> 00:54:34,521 it was a night that got out of control. 1185 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,773 It just got away from him. 1186 00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:39,025 [music fades] 1187 00:54:42,988 --> 00:54:44,155 [Anderson] As part of my research 1188 00:54:44,322 --> 00:54:45,532 into the Gordon Church case, 1189 00:54:45,657 --> 00:54:47,158 I put in a request with the police, 1190 00:54:47,325 --> 00:54:48,827 and was given permission to 1191 00:54:48,952 --> 00:54:50,704 look at some of their gathered evidence, 1192 00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:52,706 including those crime scene photos. 1193 00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:56,543 Turning the pages in that photo book, 1194 00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:58,795 they start off relatively... 1195 00:55:00,463 --> 00:55:01,631 tame. 1196 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:06,261 They're showing the perimeter of the crime scene. 1197 00:55:06,636 --> 00:55:10,473 There's dirt and sticks and mud and snow and frost. 1198 00:55:11,016 --> 00:55:12,892 But then you start seeing the blood, 1199 00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:15,645 you start seeing the pieces of bone. 1200 00:55:24,863 --> 00:55:26,656 [Anderson] Look at the blood. God. 1201 00:55:28,783 --> 00:55:30,410 There's the tire iron. 1202 00:55:37,959 --> 00:55:39,669 [Anderson] When you see the pictures of the body, 1203 00:55:40,503 --> 00:55:42,339 I would not recommend that to anybody. 1204 00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:44,507 Those images will be in my brain forever. 1205 00:55:45,216 --> 00:55:47,010 It's heart-breaking. 1206 00:55:57,562 --> 00:55:59,439 There's something that just... 1207 00:56:01,232 --> 00:56:02,901 [Anderson] It's one thing to read the story, 1208 00:56:03,068 --> 00:56:04,361 but to see it, 1209 00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:07,113 to see it, hurts. 1210 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:10,825 [unsettling music] 1211 00:56:11,659 --> 00:56:13,370 Mike had a violent 1212 00:56:16,414 --> 00:56:17,874 way of dealing with things. 1213 00:56:18,833 --> 00:56:21,086 Maybe dealing with his own demons. 1214 00:56:21,503 --> 00:56:24,422 If it's true that he knew Gordon 1215 00:56:24,589 --> 00:56:25,840 prior to that, 1216 00:56:27,092 --> 00:56:28,218 I believe now 1217 00:56:28,343 --> 00:56:29,719 it's Mike's doing. 1218 00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:33,390 He's gonna have to answer that question 1219 00:56:33,515 --> 00:56:34,974 as to why Gordon died. 1220 00:56:36,976 --> 00:56:38,895 [police] Why was this guy killed? 1221 00:56:40,063 --> 00:56:43,358 [Archuleta] I don't know why he was killed. 1222 00:56:43,775 --> 00:56:45,860 I do not know why. 1223 00:56:46,277 --> 00:56:47,737 So much went on that night, 1224 00:56:47,862 --> 00:56:49,823 it's hard to remember everything. 1225 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,493 [Wood] I was weak. 1226 00:56:56,204 --> 00:56:57,956 But I gotta take responsibility 1227 00:56:58,081 --> 00:57:01,084 for actually causing his death as much as Mike killed him. 1228 00:57:03,169 --> 00:57:05,004 In Provo today, testimony wrapped up 1229 00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:06,840 in the trial of Michael Archuleta, 1230 00:57:06,965 --> 00:57:09,509 accused of brutally killing a Central Utah man. 1231 00:57:09,926 --> 00:57:12,178 [Whatcott] I'd been to several trials at that time, 1232 00:57:12,303 --> 00:57:14,764 but there's nothing like a homicide trial. 1233 00:57:14,889 --> 00:57:17,434 They are a total different animal. 1234 00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,519 [rhythmic tense music] 1235 00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:21,438 [Stella] It was ugly. 1236 00:57:21,563 --> 00:57:23,565 It did affect our family. 1237 00:57:24,149 --> 00:57:27,485 And it affected the extended family, 1238 00:57:27,652 --> 00:57:30,196 'cause some of them didn't want to claim him. 1239 00:57:30,905 --> 00:57:32,574 They got on TV and says, "Well, you know, 1240 00:57:32,699 --> 00:57:33,992 he's not even related to us, 1241 00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:36,369 he's adopted, so we don't even know him." 1242 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:38,705 And that was hurtful. 1243 00:57:41,249 --> 00:57:42,709 [Dekker] And Archuleta, 1244 00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:45,462 he tried to dress up in a suit and a tie and look sharp, 1245 00:57:45,587 --> 00:57:49,132 but he still had his tattoos showing above his shirt collar, 1246 00:57:49,257 --> 00:57:52,427 and just kinda hard for him to hide 1247 00:57:52,552 --> 00:57:55,722 that he was a hardened man. 1248 00:57:57,265 --> 00:57:58,766 [Stella] He was this big, husky, 1249 00:57:58,892 --> 00:58:01,227 good-looking guy with all this curly hair. 1250 00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:04,230 And a little bit on the cocky side. 1251 00:58:05,732 --> 00:58:07,233 And he gave me the thumbs up, like, 1252 00:58:07,358 --> 00:58:08,651 "It's gonna be okay, Mom." 1253 00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:11,654 But deep down I knew that this was a horrible thing, 1254 00:58:11,779 --> 00:58:13,448 and it was not gonna be okay. 1255 00:58:14,032 --> 00:58:16,493 [Loy] They took me into the courtroom, swore me in, 1256 00:58:17,035 --> 00:58:17,827 and... 1257 00:58:18,286 --> 00:58:20,830 they had me testify that Gordon was gay. 1258 00:58:21,915 --> 00:58:23,833 Then, they actually 1259 00:58:24,417 --> 00:58:25,543 said that was enough. 1260 00:58:25,668 --> 00:58:27,253 And they had me get up and leave. 1261 00:58:28,379 --> 00:58:29,881 And as I was walking out, 1262 00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:32,842 they brought Archuleta out of the courtroom. 1263 00:58:33,468 --> 00:58:35,929 And he grinned at me. 1264 00:58:37,055 --> 00:58:38,723 And I was so mad 1265 00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:41,935 that I just wanted to slap the smile off his face. 1266 00:58:44,521 --> 00:58:45,855 [Whatcott] Dave and Nancy, 1267 00:58:46,689 --> 00:58:48,566 they never missed a hearing, 1268 00:58:48,691 --> 00:58:50,276 they never missed a minute of the court. 1269 00:58:50,401 --> 00:58:51,945 They was there the whole time. 1270 00:58:52,070 --> 00:58:53,780 And I know Nancy, 1271 00:58:54,322 --> 00:58:57,158 when she took the stand, she stared at both of them, 1272 00:58:58,117 --> 00:59:00,245 each individual, when she was on the stand, 1273 00:59:00,411 --> 00:59:01,371 of Archuleta. 1274 00:59:01,496 --> 00:59:03,039 Archuleta finally looked down. 1275 00:59:03,498 --> 00:59:06,834 He showed just a little bit of remorse for her. 1276 00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:08,753 Wood never did. 1277 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,797 Never would blink an eye. 1278 00:59:11,172 --> 00:59:12,215 [tense music] 1279 00:59:12,340 --> 00:59:14,634 [Brenda] I testified at Michael's trial. 1280 00:59:14,759 --> 00:59:17,887 And even at the trials, he was actually... 1281 00:59:18,763 --> 00:59:20,139 more friendly. 1282 00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,435 He would give me eye contact and smile, 1283 00:59:24,852 --> 00:59:26,354 where Lance wouldn't, 1284 00:59:26,479 --> 00:59:27,564 and we were 1285 00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:30,984 engaged still, at that time. 1286 00:59:32,151 --> 00:59:34,404 [Whatcott] Archuleta knew that he was in for the long haul. 1287 00:59:34,779 --> 00:59:37,574 I think he knew that he had 1288 00:59:37,699 --> 00:59:40,159 really screwed up bad. 1289 00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:41,661 [rhythmic tense music] 1290 00:59:43,496 --> 00:59:45,665 [Dekker] Mike Archuleta's trial 1291 00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:47,959 went very well, I thought. 1292 00:59:48,126 --> 00:59:49,335 I felt confident 1293 00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:52,297 in what was presented, and how it was presented. 1294 00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:55,466 I mean, it just went through the whole 1295 00:59:55,633 --> 00:59:56,801 episode here, 1296 00:59:57,176 --> 00:59:59,429 showing both of their participations, 1297 00:59:59,554 --> 01:00:01,014 who was doing what. 1298 01:00:02,473 --> 01:00:04,892 [Peggy] And I didn't feel like our attorneys at the time 1299 01:00:05,018 --> 01:00:06,936 did a real good job of 1300 01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:08,938 defending Michael. 1301 01:00:10,356 --> 01:00:11,941 [Loy] They were trying to get him off 1302 01:00:12,066 --> 01:00:15,778 with the fact that Archuleta had been 1303 01:00:15,903 --> 01:00:18,489 supposedly raped by somebody that was gay, 1304 01:00:18,656 --> 01:00:19,866 or something like that, 1305 01:00:19,991 --> 01:00:21,701 or molested by somebody that was gay. 1306 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,745 [Anderson] Do you think race played a factor as well? 1307 01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:25,413 Very possibly, mmh-hm. 1308 01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:29,042 One's last name was Archuleta and one wasn't. 1309 01:00:29,584 --> 01:00:31,085 [tense music] 1310 01:00:31,919 --> 01:00:33,296 [Burns] I am incensed 1311 01:00:33,755 --> 01:00:35,089 when people use 1312 01:00:35,465 --> 01:00:38,259 the fact that "I'm a minority," 1313 01:00:38,384 --> 01:00:40,345 or "I had a rough go." 1314 01:00:40,762 --> 01:00:42,513 A lot of people had a rough go in life, 1315 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,349 and they do not 1316 01:00:44,474 --> 01:00:46,726 torture, rape and kill 1317 01:00:46,851 --> 01:00:49,896 a kind and gentle 1318 01:00:50,313 --> 01:00:51,981 young gay man. 1319 01:00:52,690 --> 01:00:54,067 [news fanfare] 1320 01:00:54,942 --> 01:00:56,235 Good evening. I'm Michelle Kean. 1321 01:00:56,361 --> 01:00:57,779 And I'm Bob Evans. 1322 01:00:57,904 --> 01:00:59,489 Tomorrow, the jury begins deliberations 1323 01:00:59,614 --> 01:01:02,450 in the Michael Archuleta murder trial in Provo. 1324 01:01:02,575 --> 01:01:03,868 [Peggy] You know, they said 1325 01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:05,912 they had no idea how long it was going to be, 1326 01:01:06,371 --> 01:01:07,372 and... 1327 01:01:07,538 --> 01:01:09,165 we came home, 1328 01:01:09,290 --> 01:01:11,918 and I got a phone call that the jury had reached a verdict. 1329 01:01:12,418 --> 01:01:13,336 [tense music] 1330 01:01:14,295 --> 01:01:17,006 [Stella] And when I heard he'd been found guilty, I just... 1331 01:01:17,924 --> 01:01:19,467 I don't know how I got to bed, 1332 01:01:19,592 --> 01:01:20,760 somebody put me there, 1333 01:01:20,885 --> 01:01:22,053 but I didn't get there on my own power. 1334 01:01:22,553 --> 01:01:24,514 I don't know if I passed out or what happened, 1335 01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:25,973 but the shock was... 1336 01:01:26,891 --> 01:01:28,393 'Cause it was so final. 1337 01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:29,936 It was so final. 1338 01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,147 But... 1339 01:01:33,731 --> 01:01:34,732 what could you do? 1340 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,110 Condemned killer Michael Archuleta 1341 01:01:37,235 --> 01:01:39,070 now has an execution date. 1342 01:01:39,195 --> 01:01:40,947 Fourth District Judge George Baliff 1343 01:01:41,072 --> 01:01:42,490 signed Archuleta's death warrant today, 1344 01:01:42,615 --> 01:01:45,284 scheduling him to die by lethal injection 1345 01:01:45,410 --> 01:01:46,661 on February 19th. 1346 01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:48,579 [Burns] It's quiet joy 1347 01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:50,373 and satisfaction when 1348 01:01:51,165 --> 01:01:52,834 Archuleta was sentenced to death. 1349 01:01:52,959 --> 01:01:54,877 I thought it was the appropriate sentence. 1350 01:01:55,336 --> 01:01:58,881 [Kathy] For me, the fact that he was going to be put to death, 1351 01:02:00,007 --> 01:02:01,467 seemed like justice. 1352 01:02:02,969 --> 01:02:04,804 Do you celebrate? No. 1353 01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:08,057 Are you happy it's over with? 1354 01:02:08,182 --> 01:02:10,184 Definitely happy it's over with. 1355 01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:13,062 And, you know, I always recognized 1356 01:02:13,187 --> 01:02:15,356 that my brother's crime was a horrible thing. 1357 01:02:16,107 --> 01:02:18,860 And maybe it's selfish of me, 1358 01:02:18,985 --> 01:02:22,405 but I really just don't want to see him executed. 1359 01:02:25,908 --> 01:02:29,412 Do you believe Mike Archuleta deserves the death penalty? 1360 01:02:33,416 --> 01:02:34,459 I believe so. 1361 01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:35,418 [Anderson] Why? 1362 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,925 Because it was a ruthless 1363 01:02:43,468 --> 01:02:44,427 murder. 1364 01:02:45,011 --> 01:02:46,804 I believe everyone's entitled to forgiveness. 1365 01:02:46,929 --> 01:02:48,806 I believe everyone has 1366 01:02:48,973 --> 01:02:50,516 the right to be forgiven of things, 1367 01:02:50,641 --> 01:02:53,519 but I also believe that there is a right for justice. 1368 01:02:54,562 --> 01:02:55,438 [tense music] 1369 01:02:59,025 --> 01:03:00,151 [Brenda] Lance's trial 1370 01:03:00,318 --> 01:03:03,362 happened in February of '90. 1371 01:03:03,488 --> 01:03:07,742 It was like the JonBenét Ramsey of the time, you know? 1372 01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,660 It was huge. 1373 01:03:10,286 --> 01:03:12,121 Everybody in the state of Utah, 1374 01:03:12,246 --> 01:03:14,123 people in Idaho knew about it. 1375 01:03:14,248 --> 01:03:15,541 It was actually-- 1376 01:03:15,666 --> 01:03:16,834 I believed that I wasn't... 1377 01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:18,586 going to lose, you know? 1378 01:03:18,711 --> 01:03:20,588 I believed that I was gonna actually 1379 01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:22,465 witness that trial. 1380 01:03:23,049 --> 01:03:24,425 [Brenda] The courtroom was full, 1381 01:03:24,884 --> 01:03:26,219 all the time. 1382 01:03:27,136 --> 01:03:28,888 Yeah, he didn't even cut his hair, 1383 01:03:29,013 --> 01:03:33,810 and I had girls chanting for Lance, you know? 1384 01:03:34,477 --> 01:03:35,561 Now... 1385 01:03:36,395 --> 01:03:37,647 as a mother, 1386 01:03:37,772 --> 01:03:39,440 I can't even imagine 1387 01:03:42,151 --> 01:03:43,361 the pain and the horror 1388 01:03:43,528 --> 01:03:45,988 that I brought to the Church family 1389 01:03:46,113 --> 01:03:48,115 by doing that. 1390 01:03:48,783 --> 01:03:50,243 [tense music] 1391 01:03:51,369 --> 01:03:54,831 My trial didn't go as well as I thought it'd go. 1392 01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:56,249 You know? 1393 01:03:56,958 --> 01:03:58,793 He told me that he was not supposed 1394 01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:00,962 to show any emotion at all. 1395 01:04:02,505 --> 01:04:04,298 So he was cold. 1396 01:04:05,216 --> 01:04:07,718 There's a feeling that you get when you 1397 01:04:08,261 --> 01:04:09,303 know when you're screwed, 1398 01:04:09,428 --> 01:04:11,472 when you know you're kind of-- 1399 01:04:11,597 --> 01:04:14,267 there is no hope in that situation. 1400 01:04:15,268 --> 01:04:17,979 And I stayed the whole time. 1401 01:04:18,729 --> 01:04:20,898 Even after I gave my testimony, 1402 01:04:21,023 --> 01:04:23,067 I was not let back into the courtroom. 1403 01:04:23,192 --> 01:04:25,570 I was considered a hostile witness. 1404 01:04:25,695 --> 01:04:27,029 Because I was under such 1405 01:04:27,154 --> 01:04:29,866 the impression that Lance was innocent. 1406 01:04:30,992 --> 01:04:33,035 It was almost as if 1407 01:04:35,288 --> 01:04:37,039 they were the enemy. 1408 01:04:37,748 --> 01:04:38,916 [Wood] And, you know, 1409 01:04:39,083 --> 01:04:40,084 I think the biggest thing 1410 01:04:40,209 --> 01:04:41,794 was in the closing arguments. 1411 01:04:41,919 --> 01:04:43,296 My attorney goes, 1412 01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:47,842 "Lance was not a bystander, 1413 01:04:47,967 --> 01:04:49,385 Lance is a liar." 1414 01:04:50,803 --> 01:04:52,346 And that was my own attorney, 1415 01:04:52,471 --> 01:04:55,558 stating that to the jury, after I testified. 1416 01:04:57,059 --> 01:04:59,145 [Brenda] And when the verdict was read, 1417 01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:00,980 there was cheering, 1418 01:05:01,606 --> 01:05:03,524 and there was booing. 1419 01:05:04,692 --> 01:05:08,154 For me, I was praying. 1420 01:05:10,072 --> 01:05:12,491 [attorney] Mr. Wood's continued 1421 01:05:13,034 --> 01:05:14,785 changing of his stories 1422 01:05:15,578 --> 01:05:17,705 was his effort to avoid responsibility 1423 01:05:17,830 --> 01:05:19,457 for a crime he participated in. 1424 01:05:19,790 --> 01:05:21,334 And I think the jury saw that. 1425 01:05:22,627 --> 01:05:24,587 [Dekker] He'd already been found guilty, 1426 01:05:24,712 --> 01:05:25,963 the same as Archuleta, 1427 01:05:26,088 --> 01:05:28,466 but now the sentencing phase kicked in 1428 01:05:28,883 --> 01:05:30,426 and Lance's attorney 1429 01:05:30,843 --> 01:05:33,930 and his family brought in just a bunch of people 1430 01:05:34,055 --> 01:05:35,932 to tell you how good a guy Lance was. 1431 01:05:36,724 --> 01:05:38,684 [Stella] According to what they said and everything, 1432 01:05:38,809 --> 01:05:41,062 he was a prize, man. 1433 01:05:41,187 --> 01:05:43,064 That guy was a number one kid. 1434 01:05:43,648 --> 01:05:46,108 But according to what happened, I don't think he was. 1435 01:05:46,233 --> 01:05:47,818 I think he had the same problems as Michael did, 1436 01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:49,362 but they made him look like 1437 01:05:49,487 --> 01:05:51,614 a sterling scholar and the whole bit. 1438 01:05:53,074 --> 01:05:54,325 You know, they brought a lot of 1439 01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:57,745 religious background into it, you know. 1440 01:05:58,287 --> 01:06:00,831 Well, they took in his baptismal thing, 1441 01:06:01,499 --> 01:06:03,793 and they brought in all his Scout 1442 01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:05,628 merit badges. 1443 01:06:06,045 --> 01:06:08,047 [Dekker] And they did a pretty good job 1444 01:06:09,006 --> 01:06:10,299 making an angel out of this guy. 1445 01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:11,759 Well, he wasn't an angel. 1446 01:06:12,426 --> 01:06:14,220 I wanted to stand up and yell at the jury 1447 01:06:14,345 --> 01:06:17,139 and say, "This isn't the guy that did this!" 1448 01:06:17,598 --> 01:06:18,474 And so 1449 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:20,810 he got off with... 1450 01:06:20,935 --> 01:06:22,436 with life. 1451 01:06:22,979 --> 01:06:24,063 [reflective music] 1452 01:06:28,609 --> 01:06:30,111 [Stella] I mean, I just felt if two people 1453 01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:31,946 are involved in the same crime, 1454 01:06:32,321 --> 01:06:34,156 they should both have 1455 01:06:34,865 --> 01:06:36,242 the same punishment. 1456 01:06:36,826 --> 01:06:38,160 [Dekker] In my opinion, 1457 01:06:38,285 --> 01:06:39,870 both of them deserved the death penalty. 1458 01:06:40,037 --> 01:06:42,623 Archuleta got it. Lance Wood didn't. 1459 01:06:43,791 --> 01:06:44,875 Lance Wood should have. 1460 01:06:45,459 --> 01:06:46,752 I believe that some aspects, 1461 01:06:46,877 --> 01:06:49,005 like I said, I deserve time, 1462 01:06:49,422 --> 01:06:51,173 but what do I deserve time for? 1463 01:06:53,217 --> 01:06:54,760 [Burns] He didn't, because, 1464 01:06:54,885 --> 01:06:56,887 I think, as the facts shook out, 1465 01:06:57,013 --> 01:06:59,724 for lack of a better analogy, he didn't pull the trigger. 1466 01:06:59,890 --> 01:07:02,768 He didn't impale Gordon, he didn't rape Gordon. 1467 01:07:02,893 --> 01:07:05,688 You know, I guess a lot of Nazis 1468 01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:07,898 have that same defense 1469 01:07:08,024 --> 01:07:10,192 when six million Jews were killed. 1470 01:07:10,317 --> 01:07:11,902 "Well, you know, I was following orders," 1471 01:07:12,028 --> 01:07:13,612 "I was afraid for my own life," 1472 01:07:13,738 --> 01:07:17,450 or, "I just did what I thought I should do." 1473 01:07:18,534 --> 01:07:20,578 [Loy] I know that they said he just watched, 1474 01:07:20,703 --> 01:07:21,704 but he watched! 1475 01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:24,790 He shouldn't have been there, he should've stopped it, 1476 01:07:24,915 --> 01:07:26,208 he shouldn't have... 1477 01:07:27,168 --> 01:07:28,627 let it happen. 1478 01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:31,422 To me-- I don't know. 1479 01:07:31,964 --> 01:07:35,342 I think they both should have gotten death, to be honest. 1480 01:07:36,093 --> 01:07:38,971 It didn't really... matter. 1481 01:07:39,096 --> 01:07:40,264 The fact that neither one of them 1482 01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:42,600 could hurt someone else ever again 1483 01:07:42,975 --> 01:07:45,811 was the be-all and end-all. 1484 01:07:46,270 --> 01:07:47,396 [reflective music] 1485 01:07:51,317 --> 01:07:53,611 [Rosky] When Gordon Church was murdered in 1988, 1486 01:07:53,736 --> 01:07:56,614 Utah didn't have any hate crimes legislation. 1487 01:07:56,739 --> 01:07:58,616 But, within a few years, 1488 01:07:58,783 --> 01:08:02,078 representative David Litvack introduced a bill 1489 01:08:02,203 --> 01:08:03,537 in the Utah legislature 1490 01:08:03,662 --> 01:08:07,374 to protect all groups from hate crimes in Utah, 1491 01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:09,043 including gay people. 1492 01:08:09,668 --> 01:08:12,004 Unfortunately, that bill was hijacked 1493 01:08:12,129 --> 01:08:15,257 by a Republican legislator, 1494 01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:17,259 and it really was sort of gutted 1495 01:08:17,384 --> 01:08:19,720 in a way that has made it unenforceable. 1496 01:08:21,847 --> 01:08:24,100 [Perry] The original hate crimes law just didn't cut it. 1497 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,520 In fact, we actually had a court case that came back 1498 01:08:28,145 --> 01:08:30,481 that clearly indicated that the current hate crimes law 1499 01:08:30,648 --> 01:08:32,274 couldn't be applied in most cases. 1500 01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:34,318 It was that weak and that watered-down 1501 01:08:34,485 --> 01:08:37,113 that it was really, truly, ineffective. 1502 01:08:39,782 --> 01:08:42,159 [Burns] Nobody wants to come to terms with, 1503 01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:44,787 I punch someone in the face, 1504 01:08:45,454 --> 01:08:46,956 is a misdemeanor. 1505 01:08:47,081 --> 01:08:48,707 But I punch someone in the face 1506 01:08:48,833 --> 01:08:51,335 because they're gay or they're black, 1507 01:08:51,502 --> 01:08:52,753 or they're Jewish, 1508 01:08:52,878 --> 01:08:54,338 makes it a felony. 1509 01:08:54,505 --> 01:08:57,007 It's interesting that the pioneers who came to Utah 1510 01:08:57,133 --> 01:08:58,843 came here, trying to avoid hate 1511 01:08:59,009 --> 01:09:01,971 and people attacking them for what they believed in. 1512 01:09:02,346 --> 01:09:04,557 And yet, it took us a long time to figure out 1513 01:09:04,682 --> 01:09:06,183 that if we're gonna have a law on the books, 1514 01:09:06,308 --> 01:09:07,726 we need to have a law that works. 1515 01:09:07,852 --> 01:09:10,104 And that's kind of how I came to the point 1516 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:11,522 where I told Senator Thatcher, 1517 01:09:11,647 --> 01:09:13,357 "I wanna be your sponsor in the House side." 1518 01:09:13,482 --> 01:09:15,568 [tense music] 1519 01:09:16,735 --> 01:09:18,821 [Thatcher] When someone is convicted of a crime, 1520 01:09:20,030 --> 01:09:21,365 and only 1521 01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:24,160 after someone has been convicted of a crime, 1522 01:09:24,577 --> 01:09:26,704 do we enter the sentencing phase. 1523 01:09:27,496 --> 01:09:29,331 The sentencing phase is when we decide, 1524 01:09:29,456 --> 01:09:30,666 "Okay, they did it, 1525 01:09:31,208 --> 01:09:32,543 how bad was it? 1526 01:09:32,668 --> 01:09:34,712 What should the punishment be?" 1527 01:09:34,837 --> 01:09:36,463 Now, some people, 1528 01:09:37,214 --> 01:09:38,841 and one of the largest objections 1529 01:09:38,966 --> 01:09:40,134 that I've had to overcome 1530 01:09:40,551 --> 01:09:42,469 from people who don't like 1531 01:09:42,595 --> 01:09:45,264 the idea of an enhanced sentence is, 1532 01:09:45,389 --> 01:09:47,224 "Well, a crime is a crime is a crime. 1533 01:09:47,683 --> 01:09:49,852 We should treat all crimes the same." 1534 01:09:50,728 --> 01:09:52,146 Well, the challenge with that is, 1535 01:09:52,271 --> 01:09:55,399 that is literally the exact opposite 1536 01:09:55,524 --> 01:09:58,444 of how our criminal justice system works. 1537 01:09:58,569 --> 01:09:59,904 Kind of like murder. 1538 01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:01,906 Murder's broken down into various categories. 1539 01:10:02,072 --> 01:10:05,326 So, a murder, obviously you lose a life. 1540 01:10:05,451 --> 01:10:07,786 But if you have a murder where somebody is drunk 1541 01:10:07,912 --> 01:10:09,872 and didn't mean to kill somebody, 1542 01:10:09,997 --> 01:10:11,165 it's considered, uh, 1543 01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:12,458 I hate to say it, but a lesser murder. 1544 01:10:12,583 --> 01:10:13,751 And they're probably not gonna get 1545 01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:15,211 a death row for something like that. 1546 01:10:16,420 --> 01:10:19,423 But I don't think any of us can realistically say 1547 01:10:19,798 --> 01:10:21,550 that spraying your girlfriend's name 1548 01:10:21,675 --> 01:10:23,928 on a fence or an overpass 1549 01:10:24,053 --> 01:10:25,387 is the same crime 1550 01:10:25,512 --> 01:10:27,306 as going to a Jewish synagogue 1551 01:10:27,431 --> 01:10:29,141 and spray-painting a swastika 1552 01:10:29,266 --> 01:10:30,851 and the words, 'Die, Jews.' 1553 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,188 Now if you believe that those are the same crime 1554 01:10:34,897 --> 01:10:38,108 because in both cases you still have to clean up graffiti, 1555 01:10:38,275 --> 01:10:39,610 then with respect, 1556 01:10:39,777 --> 01:10:41,779 you probably will not come on board for this bill, 1557 01:10:41,946 --> 01:10:44,073 and you probably should vote against this bill, 1558 01:10:44,198 --> 01:10:45,741 if you truly believe 1559 01:10:45,866 --> 01:10:48,410 that those two crimes should be punished the same. 1560 01:10:49,370 --> 01:10:50,746 The way our law's gonna work is, 1561 01:10:50,871 --> 01:10:52,998 we'll convict you of the crime first. 1562 01:10:53,415 --> 01:10:55,626 And then we'll add an additional penalty on 1563 01:10:55,793 --> 01:10:56,669 because the fact 1564 01:10:56,794 --> 01:10:58,128 your selection of your victim 1565 01:10:58,295 --> 01:11:00,089 had everything to do with 1566 01:11:00,714 --> 01:11:03,676 a particular character or preference, 1567 01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:06,178 not because of anything else. 1568 01:11:06,303 --> 01:11:07,888 Can't prevent everything, but 1569 01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:09,473 this law, by passing it, 1570 01:11:09,598 --> 01:11:11,600 putting it in place with SB103, 1571 01:11:11,725 --> 01:11:14,144 I think, down the road, will make a difference 1572 01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:16,939 in making people stop and think about what they do 1573 01:11:17,064 --> 01:11:18,065 and why they're doing it. 1574 01:11:18,899 --> 01:11:20,859 [Thatcher] Let's move forward with the solution 1575 01:11:20,985 --> 01:11:23,696 that we know is 100% constitutional, 1576 01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:26,824 that we know is 100% legally sound. 1577 01:11:27,658 --> 01:11:30,369 When we're looking at complex legal issues, 1578 01:11:30,494 --> 01:11:31,912 if we're smart, 1579 01:11:32,454 --> 01:11:34,790 we listen to our subject matter experts. 1580 01:11:35,332 --> 01:11:36,917 We listen to the Sentencing Commission 1581 01:11:37,042 --> 01:11:39,336 who talks about what punishments ought to be. 1582 01:11:39,712 --> 01:11:41,922 We should listen to our Chiefs, our sheriffs, 1583 01:11:42,047 --> 01:11:44,800 we should listen to our religious communities, 1584 01:11:45,259 --> 01:11:46,844 which are united. 1585 01:11:47,344 --> 01:11:49,430 I am not aware of a single religion 1586 01:11:49,555 --> 01:11:51,307 that has come forward and said, 1587 01:11:52,057 --> 01:11:53,809 "We don't want this protection." 1588 01:11:55,144 --> 01:11:56,312 We should listen. 1589 01:11:58,355 --> 01:11:59,440 We should listen. 1590 01:11:59,898 --> 01:12:00,941 [music fades] 1591 01:12:05,529 --> 01:12:06,572 [reflective music] 1592 01:12:08,032 --> 01:12:09,533 [Anderson] After Lance was convicted, 1593 01:12:09,658 --> 01:12:12,369 he was sentenced to life in prison, 1594 01:12:12,536 --> 01:12:15,414 and ended up in Draper, Utah, initially. 1595 01:12:17,166 --> 01:12:18,917 He became known as kind of a prison snitch, 1596 01:12:19,043 --> 01:12:20,544 and after a while they transferred him 1597 01:12:20,669 --> 01:12:23,714 up to Orofino, Idaho, to serve his time. 1598 01:12:24,131 --> 01:12:25,674 While he was there, he ended up having 1599 01:12:25,799 --> 01:12:28,093 several different long-term sexual relationships 1600 01:12:28,218 --> 01:12:30,554 with female staff at the prison, 1601 01:12:30,721 --> 01:12:33,599 and so they transferred him to Napa, Idaho, 1602 01:12:33,724 --> 01:12:35,976 which is where he met Renee McKenzie. 1603 01:12:36,894 --> 01:12:39,229 [McKenzie] My ex-husband was a senator, 1604 01:12:39,355 --> 01:12:40,564 a state senator. 1605 01:12:41,023 --> 01:12:44,360 Since I wasn't a politician, I was kind of in the background, 1606 01:12:44,818 --> 01:12:46,195 and so I 1607 01:12:46,820 --> 01:12:49,490 learned a lot about Idaho politics. 1608 01:12:50,282 --> 01:12:52,159 My first meeting with Lance was, 1609 01:12:52,284 --> 01:12:54,745 I went to prison and I said, 1610 01:12:55,329 --> 01:12:57,081 "I'm working on prison reform, 1611 01:12:57,206 --> 01:12:58,707 I'm writing 1612 01:12:58,832 --> 01:13:01,919 some legislation for the parole board." 1613 01:13:02,044 --> 01:13:04,088 At first, I thought it was a senator's 1614 01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:07,758 either daughter or sister or relative, 1615 01:13:07,925 --> 01:13:09,760 because to me, in my mind, 1616 01:13:09,885 --> 01:13:12,971 senator, old, you know, 98 years old. 1617 01:13:13,097 --> 01:13:16,225 You know, I didn't know, so it was kind of, 1618 01:13:16,683 --> 01:13:19,144 "Hey, this is pretty nice," you know? 1619 01:13:19,269 --> 01:13:22,272 All I wanted to talk to him about was prison reform, 1620 01:13:22,398 --> 01:13:25,651 what could be done on the inside of prison to improve, 1621 01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:28,153 you know, what Idaho had going. 1622 01:13:28,278 --> 01:13:30,322 Renee, much like me, 1623 01:13:30,781 --> 01:13:33,534 was enamored by this... 1624 01:13:34,243 --> 01:13:35,411 individual. 1625 01:13:36,453 --> 01:13:37,913 Uh... 1626 01:13:38,038 --> 01:13:39,665 [Anderson] So there was an immediate attraction there then? 1627 01:13:40,332 --> 01:13:42,209 Immediate attraction to her. 1628 01:13:42,334 --> 01:13:44,086 And so I came home 1629 01:13:44,503 --> 01:13:45,629 that night, 1630 01:13:46,046 --> 01:13:48,090 and I remember going in the computer room 1631 01:13:48,215 --> 01:13:49,675 and looking him up, 1632 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,468 'cause I just thought, I wonder what he's in prison for? 1633 01:13:52,136 --> 01:13:55,889 His crime is absolutely horrific. 1634 01:13:56,974 --> 01:13:58,142 So, uh... 1635 01:13:58,767 --> 01:14:00,727 being the interrogator that I am, 1636 01:14:00,853 --> 01:14:02,771 I wrote down my thousand questions, 1637 01:14:02,896 --> 01:14:04,982 and went back and slapped 1638 01:14:05,649 --> 01:14:07,359 my folder on the table, and I said, 1639 01:14:07,484 --> 01:14:08,569 "I got some questions for you, 1640 01:14:08,694 --> 01:14:09,862 and you're gonna answer all of them." 1641 01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:12,406 She was drilling me, all right? 1642 01:14:12,823 --> 01:14:15,200 And it was funny as that, for some reason, 1643 01:14:15,325 --> 01:14:16,910 I've always... 1644 01:14:17,494 --> 01:14:19,329 been not totally truthful 1645 01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:20,497 with... with everyone, 1646 01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:22,124 it just never happened. 1647 01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:25,711 But with her, I just couldn't shut up. 1648 01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:27,963 So I feel like he was 1649 01:14:28,088 --> 01:14:30,632 transparent, I don't think he was hiding anything. 1650 01:14:30,757 --> 01:14:32,259 He answered all my questions. 1651 01:14:32,634 --> 01:14:35,846 And at the end, she closed the folder and said, 1652 01:14:36,013 --> 01:14:37,723 "I'm glad that you didn't lie to me. 1653 01:14:37,848 --> 01:14:39,766 I'm glad that you were actually honest with me." 1654 01:14:39,892 --> 01:14:41,185 She had 1655 01:14:41,310 --> 01:14:45,063 gotten the same types of stories from Lance that I got. 1656 01:14:46,565 --> 01:14:48,609 And Lance was very convincing. 1657 01:14:49,276 --> 01:14:52,070 So we built a real quick friendship. 1658 01:14:52,529 --> 01:14:54,698 We didn't become romantic, 1659 01:14:54,865 --> 01:14:57,618 but I think, when two people are working on a cause 1660 01:14:57,743 --> 01:15:01,371 so hard and so emotionally, 1661 01:15:01,538 --> 01:15:03,790 you kind of click, as far as 1662 01:15:04,541 --> 01:15:06,752 what you're trying to accomplish, 1663 01:15:07,544 --> 01:15:09,046 with prison reform. 1664 01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:11,924 [Anderson] Were you flirtatious? Were you complimentary? 1665 01:15:12,799 --> 01:15:14,551 No, I was all business. 1666 01:15:15,219 --> 01:15:17,846 And it wasn't until after our first trial 1667 01:15:17,971 --> 01:15:19,223 that we kind of admitted to each other 1668 01:15:19,348 --> 01:15:21,225 that we had feelings for each other. 1669 01:15:22,059 --> 01:15:23,810 [Anderson] Did you and Lance fall in love? 1670 01:15:25,687 --> 01:15:26,772 Um... 1671 01:15:30,484 --> 01:15:32,861 Those are hard things to answer and I don't know. 1672 01:15:35,572 --> 01:15:37,115 Yeah, we absolutely fell in love. 1673 01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:40,661 [Anderson] When Renee's husband found out 1674 01:15:40,786 --> 01:15:43,080 about her relationship with Lance, 1675 01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:45,874 it hit the local newspapers and there was a lot of drama. 1676 01:15:45,999 --> 01:15:48,418 Lance ended up getting transferred again, 1677 01:15:48,544 --> 01:15:52,130 this time to a minimum security prison in Pendleton, Oregon. 1678 01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:55,175 Renee moved there to be with him, 1679 01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:57,010 after divorcing her husband. 1680 01:15:57,135 --> 01:15:58,804 And she and Lance ended up getting married 1681 01:15:58,929 --> 01:16:00,430 in the prison there. 1682 01:16:00,597 --> 01:16:01,640 [reflective music] 1683 01:16:05,602 --> 01:16:07,604 [Anderson] Lance Wood was sentenced to life in prison 1684 01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:09,189 with the possibility of parole. 1685 01:16:09,314 --> 01:16:11,858 He could see the light of day again. 1686 01:16:16,154 --> 01:16:17,781 At this point, he's applied for parole twice 1687 01:16:17,948 --> 01:16:19,908 and been denied both times. 1688 01:16:20,617 --> 01:16:22,244 Every denial as of yet has been 1689 01:16:22,369 --> 01:16:24,121 based solely on the crime itself, 1690 01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:25,747 and not my behavior in prison. 1691 01:16:25,872 --> 01:16:27,833 Okay. Do you feel like you've had good behavior? 1692 01:16:28,458 --> 01:16:29,751 You know, my ill behavior 1693 01:16:29,876 --> 01:16:31,628 is probably the staff relationships. 1694 01:16:32,129 --> 01:16:33,589 I guess I'm not Irish, 1695 01:16:33,714 --> 01:16:35,090 but for the luck of the Irish, you know, 1696 01:16:35,215 --> 01:16:37,634 the women have just been coming to me, so... 1697 01:16:37,801 --> 01:16:38,885 [unsettling music] 1698 01:16:39,011 --> 01:16:41,722 Lance Wood is a very 1699 01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:45,475 charming person. 1700 01:16:46,143 --> 01:16:48,562 I was fired, let go from Hospice Care 1701 01:16:48,687 --> 01:16:50,147 for having several relationships 1702 01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:52,691 with the female staff down there, the nurses. 1703 01:16:55,944 --> 01:16:57,362 He's also very... 1704 01:16:59,489 --> 01:17:00,699 cunning. 1705 01:17:03,327 --> 01:17:06,121 [Anderson] In Lance's own words, he's called himself a womanizer. 1706 01:17:07,372 --> 01:17:08,915 Lance is a womanizer. 1707 01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:12,377 [Anderson] What's your opinion on that? 1708 01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:15,797 Um... He loves women. 1709 01:17:16,423 --> 01:17:20,093 And he went into prison when he was, what, 21? 1710 01:17:20,969 --> 01:17:23,805 So think yourself, in prison, at 21. 1711 01:17:25,891 --> 01:17:28,143 If you're a womanizer, you're gonna womanize. 1712 01:17:30,771 --> 01:17:33,148 Let's see, one was a Sandy Martin. 1713 01:17:34,900 --> 01:17:35,984 And... 1714 01:17:37,527 --> 01:17:38,820 Cheryl Davis, 1715 01:17:40,030 --> 01:17:41,365 and three others 1716 01:17:41,531 --> 01:17:42,824 that I don't wanna mention their names 1717 01:17:42,949 --> 01:17:44,368 just because they-- 1718 01:17:44,493 --> 01:17:45,911 we had never met with any investigator. 1719 01:17:46,536 --> 01:17:48,955 I guess, the way I could 1720 01:17:49,081 --> 01:17:51,792 possibly best describe it, is... 1721 01:17:52,459 --> 01:17:53,418 Ted Bundy. 1722 01:17:54,628 --> 01:17:57,255 He is a very nice-looking man, 1723 01:17:58,674 --> 01:17:59,758 who... 1724 01:18:00,801 --> 01:18:02,552 who manipulates people. 1725 01:18:03,261 --> 01:18:06,348 Let us see, I followed suit [unclear] down there. 1726 01:18:07,224 --> 01:18:09,351 Started a few more relationships. 1727 01:18:10,519 --> 01:18:13,105 That's when I met Cheryl-- I mean... 1728 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,275 Renee. 1729 01:18:23,156 --> 01:18:24,366 Yeah, when people go to prison, 1730 01:18:24,491 --> 01:18:26,243 they have nothing but time on their hands, 1731 01:18:26,410 --> 01:18:29,413 and it sounds like he's used that time to 1732 01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:34,126 continue to wreak havoc in multiple people's lives. 1733 01:18:35,585 --> 01:18:36,712 [reflective music] 1734 01:18:44,386 --> 01:18:46,430 [Stella] He says, "A lot of people believe 1735 01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:47,764 'an eye for an eye'," 1736 01:18:47,931 --> 01:18:48,849 he says, "How do you feel about it, Mom?" 1737 01:18:48,974 --> 01:18:49,891 And I says, "Well, 1738 01:18:50,308 --> 01:18:51,685 that's what it says in the Bible, 1739 01:18:51,810 --> 01:18:53,395 I guess, I've never read it. 1740 01:18:54,104 --> 01:18:56,440 But I don't know, some people believe in it, 1741 01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:57,691 and I keep thinking, you-- 1742 01:18:57,816 --> 01:18:59,234 you had to pay for your mistakes." 1743 01:19:00,986 --> 01:19:02,362 [Peggy] When Mike first went to prison, 1744 01:19:02,487 --> 01:19:03,905 he was very, very angry, 1745 01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:06,491 and he was very suicidal, and he was very depressed. 1746 01:19:07,659 --> 01:19:09,578 [Stella] Well, at the beginning, it was kind of hard on him, 1747 01:19:09,703 --> 01:19:13,039 I mean, he'd been incarcerated before, many times. 1748 01:19:13,457 --> 01:19:15,292 But like he says, "This is a big boy thing," 1749 01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:16,460 this is not a 1750 01:19:16,918 --> 01:19:18,462 young punk, type thing, 1751 01:19:18,587 --> 01:19:20,922 this is... this is a big thing. 1752 01:19:22,257 --> 01:19:24,092 [Stella] I think finally he just settled down 1753 01:19:24,217 --> 01:19:26,845 into the fact that this is where he was. 1754 01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:28,597 This was his life, 1755 01:19:28,722 --> 01:19:31,183 and he got older, and matured. 1756 01:19:32,642 --> 01:19:33,602 Like he told me, he says, 1757 01:19:33,727 --> 01:19:35,812 "If I knew then what I know now, 1758 01:19:35,979 --> 01:19:37,689 and how many people care about me 1759 01:19:37,814 --> 01:19:39,024 and what I could have done with my life," 1760 01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:40,942 he says, "I've wasted my whole life 1761 01:19:41,067 --> 01:19:42,778 just being bitter and angry." 1762 01:19:43,445 --> 01:19:44,279 [music continues] 1763 01:19:45,822 --> 01:19:47,491 [Peggy] Michael talked about, 1764 01:19:47,657 --> 01:19:48,492 after the crime, 1765 01:19:48,617 --> 01:19:49,993 that he felt 1766 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,495 that Gordon had come to him, 1767 01:19:51,661 --> 01:19:55,749 that he dreamed him regularly, all of the time. 1768 01:19:56,625 --> 01:19:58,752 [Stella] He says, "Like I could almost smell him, 1769 01:19:58,877 --> 01:20:00,879 it's like he died in my cell." 1770 01:20:01,004 --> 01:20:02,547 He says it was hard, 1771 01:20:02,672 --> 01:20:04,007 so he lost a lot of weight 1772 01:20:04,132 --> 01:20:06,676 because he just couldn't sleep. 1773 01:20:06,843 --> 01:20:07,719 [reflective music] 1774 01:20:08,345 --> 01:20:10,263 [Peggy] They work out a lot at the prison, 1775 01:20:10,388 --> 01:20:12,599 and he had rigged up his own weights, 1776 01:20:13,266 --> 01:20:16,102 milk cartons full of water, and weights on them, 1777 01:20:16,228 --> 01:20:18,647 to pump iron, and ironically, 1778 01:20:18,772 --> 01:20:20,148 it was on the anniversary 1779 01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:22,692 of the date of his crime. 1780 01:20:23,193 --> 01:20:24,653 He says he heard a pop, 1781 01:20:25,195 --> 01:20:26,404 and the other guys around him 1782 01:20:26,530 --> 01:20:28,365 heard the pop sound like a gunshot. 1783 01:20:28,490 --> 01:20:30,992 One of the elastics snapped on his weights 1784 01:20:31,117 --> 01:20:32,410 and came back and hit him in the eye 1785 01:20:32,536 --> 01:20:35,121 and ruptured his eye and he lost his eyeball. 1786 01:20:36,706 --> 01:20:38,375 [Stella] He says, "I should have been dead." 1787 01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:41,711 He says, "If that had gotten just a little fraction 1788 01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:43,255 of an inch or whatever," 1789 01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:44,965 he says "it would had probably blown my brains out." 1790 01:20:45,632 --> 01:20:47,717 He says, "But there was a reason why it didn't." 1791 01:20:48,468 --> 01:20:50,512 [Stella] He said it was just so strange 1792 01:20:50,637 --> 01:20:52,013 that it was on that day. 1793 01:20:52,138 --> 01:20:53,723 He almost felt like 1794 01:20:53,890 --> 01:20:58,019 it released some kind of almost, some guilt with him. 1795 01:21:01,022 --> 01:21:02,732 [Burns] Michael Anthony Archuleta 1796 01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:04,651 has not been executed. 1797 01:21:04,776 --> 01:21:05,652 And, uh... 1798 01:21:06,403 --> 01:21:09,614 that's a tragedy, and it's a failing of our system. 1799 01:21:11,032 --> 01:21:12,033 [Whatcott] I don't know if they'll ever 1800 01:21:12,158 --> 01:21:14,202 execute Archuleta or not. 1801 01:21:14,327 --> 01:21:15,745 You know, he's been there for 1802 01:21:16,121 --> 01:21:18,540 thirty years, almost, now, and... 1803 01:21:19,499 --> 01:21:21,418 still fighting it, which is ridiculous. 1804 01:21:21,543 --> 01:21:23,253 [Merrill] Good morning again, Mr. Chief Justice, 1805 01:21:23,420 --> 01:21:25,422 Associate Chief Justice, members of the court. 1806 01:21:25,547 --> 01:21:27,674 May it please the court, my name is Charlotte Merrill. 1807 01:21:27,799 --> 01:21:30,176 Again, I represent Michael Anthony Archuleta. 1808 01:21:30,302 --> 01:21:32,220 So there are a lot of things that came to light. 1809 01:21:32,345 --> 01:21:35,932 The sexual abuse, you know, when he was at State Hospital. 1810 01:21:36,057 --> 01:21:37,183 Of course, none of this was known 1811 01:21:37,309 --> 01:21:39,144 at the time of his original trial. 1812 01:21:39,936 --> 01:21:42,939 Mr. Archuleta was entitled to the effective assistance 1813 01:21:43,064 --> 01:21:44,316 of post-conviction counsel 1814 01:21:44,441 --> 01:21:47,152 in his initial post-conviction proceedings. 1815 01:21:47,944 --> 01:21:49,738 But his counsel was conflicted, 1816 01:21:50,113 --> 01:21:52,866 under-qualified, and under-funded, 1817 01:21:52,991 --> 01:21:55,035 and missed serious red flags, 1818 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,329 that he was intellectually disabled, 1819 01:21:57,829 --> 01:21:59,372 and, thus, 1820 01:21:59,748 --> 01:22:01,333 ineligible for execution. 1821 01:22:02,375 --> 01:22:05,170 He went through all of his state appeals, 1822 01:22:05,295 --> 01:22:08,214 they finally finished, I think, about five years ago. 1823 01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:10,383 And then the federal appeals started. 1824 01:22:11,259 --> 01:22:13,136 And I don't understand why 1825 01:22:13,303 --> 01:22:15,722 all those appeals weren't taking place at the same time. 1826 01:22:15,847 --> 01:22:17,349 I don't understand that. 1827 01:22:17,474 --> 01:22:19,309 You know, a wrongly-imprisoned 1828 01:22:19,476 --> 01:22:21,061 criminal defendant who has claims, 1829 01:22:21,186 --> 01:22:23,063 has every incentive to bring those claims early, 1830 01:22:23,188 --> 01:22:24,689 and to pursue them aggressively. 1831 01:22:25,482 --> 01:22:29,110 It's the opposite if you have a guilty person on death row. 1832 01:22:29,235 --> 01:22:30,820 That person 1833 01:22:30,946 --> 01:22:32,447 has every incentive to wait until the last possible minute 1834 01:22:32,572 --> 01:22:35,909 to bring claims to gum up the works of litigation. 1835 01:22:36,284 --> 01:22:37,577 And all we're appealing now is, 1836 01:22:37,702 --> 01:22:39,704 little, teeny, micro-technicalities, 1837 01:22:39,829 --> 01:22:41,247 and that's what's drawing this whole thing out, 1838 01:22:41,373 --> 01:22:42,540 and keeping him alive. 1839 01:22:42,916 --> 01:22:45,669 I mean, they filed their federal petition in 2012. 1840 01:22:45,835 --> 01:22:47,170 We're standing here in 2018, 1841 01:22:47,337 --> 01:22:48,755 and really nothing's happened in the federal case, 1842 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,715 because we've been litigating these the whole time. 1843 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,385 And that's already a victory for their client. 1844 01:22:55,637 --> 01:22:58,181 Sitting on death row, while intellectually disabled, 1845 01:22:58,306 --> 01:22:59,724 is not a victory. 1846 01:23:01,309 --> 01:23:04,521 Knowing the horrific situation with Mr. Archuleta, 1847 01:23:04,688 --> 01:23:06,523 I don't know why we're paying for all of his medical bills, 1848 01:23:06,690 --> 01:23:07,857 and all of the things to keep him alive. 1849 01:23:08,024 --> 01:23:09,359 I think that, 1850 01:23:09,484 --> 01:23:11,152 realistically, the state of Utah needs to carry out 1851 01:23:11,277 --> 01:23:12,612 what it's intended to do. 1852 01:23:15,073 --> 01:23:16,449 [Peggy] He's been given execution dates, 1853 01:23:16,574 --> 01:23:19,119 that have come and gone, but you never know when, 1854 01:23:19,244 --> 01:23:20,912 when it's not, you know? 1855 01:23:21,037 --> 01:23:22,288 So we've geared ourselves up, 1856 01:23:22,414 --> 01:23:23,957 and then it doesn't happen, 1857 01:23:24,082 --> 01:23:25,959 and then we geared ourselves up, 1858 01:23:26,084 --> 01:23:27,669 for many, many years. 1859 01:23:27,794 --> 01:23:30,463 We as prosecutors concentrate 1860 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,842 on the victims, and the victims' families. 1861 01:23:33,967 --> 01:23:35,385 And for them to wait 1862 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,639 five years, and then a decade, and then two decades... 1863 01:23:40,557 --> 01:23:41,850 It takes its toll 1864 01:23:42,308 --> 01:23:44,561 on the families. 1865 01:23:44,728 --> 01:23:45,687 [Peggy] The day may come, 1866 01:23:47,230 --> 01:23:49,274 and we've always known that, 1867 01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:52,068 but, 1868 01:23:52,193 --> 01:23:53,361 that's the one thing I don't want 1869 01:23:53,486 --> 01:23:55,697 my Mom and Dad to have to go through is, 1870 01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:57,157 his execution. 1871 01:23:59,325 --> 01:24:01,036 [music fades] 1872 01:24:09,794 --> 01:24:10,712 [reflective piano music] 1873 01:24:12,130 --> 01:24:13,298 [Jesse] The end of every story, 1874 01:24:13,423 --> 01:24:14,340 the one that gets to tell the story 1875 01:24:14,466 --> 01:24:15,800 is usually the victor, 1876 01:24:15,925 --> 01:24:17,510 and in any case right now, 1877 01:24:17,635 --> 01:24:19,095 it seems like the only victor 1878 01:24:19,262 --> 01:24:20,764 is still the murderers, 1879 01:24:20,930 --> 01:24:23,433 so it almost feels like they're the only ones that are 1880 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,103 getting their stories told and their intimate details, 1881 01:24:27,228 --> 01:24:29,731 not this amazing man that they... 1882 01:24:30,356 --> 01:24:32,025 that they ended his life. 1883 01:24:32,150 --> 01:24:33,318 [reflective music continues] 1884 01:24:34,903 --> 01:24:37,739 [Burns] But I think the Gordon Ray Church story 1885 01:24:37,864 --> 01:24:39,157 will help, 1886 01:24:39,282 --> 01:24:41,367 because we can look back thirty years and say, 1887 01:24:41,785 --> 01:24:46,331 My God, I cannot believe that happened in southern Utah. 1888 01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:50,293 [Perry] I think the Gordon Church case 1889 01:24:50,418 --> 01:24:51,669 is one of those cases 1890 01:24:51,795 --> 01:24:53,254 that kind of shocked the people's conscience, 1891 01:24:53,379 --> 01:24:55,298 and probably moved us forward and said, 1892 01:24:55,465 --> 01:24:56,800 it's time for a change. 1893 01:24:56,966 --> 01:24:58,802 And I think SB103 is gonna go down in history 1894 01:24:58,927 --> 01:25:02,222 as one of the defining moments in Utah's history, 1895 01:25:02,347 --> 01:25:04,057 as far as making the right decisions 1896 01:25:04,182 --> 01:25:05,391 and doing the right things. 1897 01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:08,937 You had me at SB103. 1898 01:25:09,312 --> 01:25:10,480 [Perry laughs] 1899 01:25:10,605 --> 01:25:11,940 Thank you very much for your work. 1900 01:25:12,065 --> 01:25:13,316 I know this hasn't been easy, 1901 01:25:13,441 --> 01:25:15,693 but I'm very supportive. 1902 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,448 [Anderson] After a long fight, on April second of this year, 1903 01:25:20,573 --> 01:25:22,408 SB103 was finally passed into law, 1904 01:25:22,534 --> 01:25:25,453 and we have hate crimes legislation in Utah now. 1905 01:25:33,503 --> 01:25:35,421 [Perry] It was shocking, the fact that we got 1906 01:25:36,005 --> 01:25:39,134 a veto-proof margin in the House of Representatives, 1907 01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:40,426 to support this, 1908 01:25:40,552 --> 01:25:42,428 which tells me that Utah has realized 1909 01:25:42,554 --> 01:25:46,307 that the time had come to have a law that works. 1910 01:25:47,183 --> 01:25:48,518 And I think it may save lives. 1911 01:25:48,935 --> 01:25:52,272 I do believe that by having a law like this on the books 1912 01:25:52,397 --> 01:25:54,315 is gonna send a message to people that 1913 01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:56,025 we're a civil society and a civil state, 1914 01:25:56,151 --> 01:25:59,571 and people can't get away with these kind of crimes in Utah. 1915 01:26:01,823 --> 01:26:03,700 [Stella - voice breaking] You have to love your kids, 1916 01:26:03,825 --> 01:26:04,826 no matter what. 1917 01:26:04,951 --> 01:26:06,369 You can't just love them when they're good. 1918 01:26:07,036 --> 01:26:08,955 You have to love them when they're bad, too. 1919 01:26:09,873 --> 01:26:11,249 That's all there is to it, I mean, 1920 01:26:11,374 --> 01:26:12,667 that's how it is. 1921 01:26:13,042 --> 01:26:14,335 [melancholic music] 1922 01:26:19,757 --> 01:26:21,217 I think I've learned from my parents 1923 01:26:21,384 --> 01:26:22,844 about unconditional love. 1924 01:26:23,761 --> 01:26:25,847 Never have they quit loving Michael. 1925 01:26:26,347 --> 01:26:27,640 Never has my mom, 1926 01:26:28,141 --> 01:26:29,851 never have we denied him, 1927 01:26:30,476 --> 01:26:32,687 never have we quit caring about him. 1928 01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:34,439 Never have we not 1929 01:26:34,564 --> 01:26:36,191 considered him a part of our family. 1930 01:26:37,066 --> 01:26:38,276 And so if anything, 1931 01:26:38,401 --> 01:26:40,445 I have learned that from my parents, 1932 01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:43,281 that if you really love someone, you love someone. 1933 01:26:43,907 --> 01:26:45,366 [music fades] 1934 01:26:49,913 --> 01:26:50,788 [relaxing music] 1935 01:26:52,207 --> 01:26:53,416 [Burns] I would hope that 1936 01:26:53,583 --> 01:26:55,418 from this case, 1937 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,504 people would be more understanding 1938 01:26:58,630 --> 01:27:00,340 of their own children, 1939 01:27:00,965 --> 01:27:02,967 of their neighbors. 1940 01:27:04,344 --> 01:27:05,511 We're all different. 1941 01:27:06,012 --> 01:27:08,097 And because someone is black, 1942 01:27:08,264 --> 01:27:10,266 or bald, or short 1943 01:27:10,433 --> 01:27:12,310 or has a speech impediment, 1944 01:27:13,102 --> 01:27:14,395 or is gay, 1945 01:27:15,813 --> 01:27:18,858 is not license to treat them with anything but 1946 01:27:19,234 --> 01:27:20,652 respect and love. 1947 01:27:25,031 --> 01:27:26,783 [Jesse] Gordon should be remembered, 1948 01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:30,411 because of all the young kids that are in this world right now 1949 01:27:30,536 --> 01:27:33,164 that are dealing with being gay, 1950 01:27:33,289 --> 01:27:36,626 and not have had the opportunity to tell their parents. 1951 01:27:36,751 --> 01:27:39,212 That's a good thing, because it allows people 1952 01:27:39,337 --> 01:27:40,838 to be who they are, 1953 01:27:41,673 --> 01:27:43,591 and not have to hide in the shadows. 1954 01:27:47,303 --> 01:27:49,597 [Anderson] If you could say anything to Gordon now, 1955 01:27:50,181 --> 01:27:51,391 what would you say? 1956 01:27:52,225 --> 01:27:53,351 [bitter-sweet music] 1957 01:27:57,355 --> 01:28:00,191 I just I don't have any words. I-- 1958 01:28:00,942 --> 01:28:03,611 I don't know, just how sorry I am, and... 1959 01:28:04,529 --> 01:28:06,864 how the hell I wish somebody had 1960 01:28:08,324 --> 01:28:10,410 been able to protect him at the time. 1961 01:28:12,537 --> 01:28:13,705 [Dekker] How'd we do? 1962 01:28:14,998 --> 01:28:16,624 Did we get it right? 1963 01:28:17,333 --> 01:28:18,668 Did we get it right for you, 1964 01:28:18,793 --> 01:28:21,296 did we represent you as well as we could? 1965 01:28:23,631 --> 01:28:26,342 [Masner] Everyone who's been involved in this case, 1966 01:28:26,467 --> 01:28:28,553 we did our very best, 1967 01:28:38,604 --> 01:28:41,316 I know he's in a better place. Enjoy. 1968 01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:45,737 [Loy] I would... 1969 01:28:46,863 --> 01:28:49,032 He's so tiny, I'd pick him up. 1970 01:28:49,157 --> 01:28:50,742 [laughs] 1971 01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:53,077 And give him a nice big squeeze. 1972 01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:57,457 [Stella crying] He didn't deserve to die. 1973 01:28:58,333 --> 01:28:59,751 I've got a gay grandson, 1974 01:28:59,876 --> 01:29:01,878 and I mean, I wouldn't want anyone to do that to him 1975 01:29:02,045 --> 01:29:02,920 for that reason. 1976 01:29:04,088 --> 01:29:06,007 [Peggy] It just breaks my heart that 1977 01:29:06,132 --> 01:29:07,383 somebody I know and love 1978 01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:10,470 has been involved in hurting someone so much, 1979 01:29:11,054 --> 01:29:13,348 and wish I could change it, and I just can't. 1980 01:29:14,349 --> 01:29:15,391 I'm so sorry. 1981 01:29:15,558 --> 01:29:17,101 Oh, so sorry. 1982 01:29:17,727 --> 01:29:18,686 [sobs] 1983 01:29:23,399 --> 01:29:26,277 [Jesse] I'd really like the image of you being hurt, 1984 01:29:26,736 --> 01:29:28,946 to go away, I don't want you to hurt. 1985 01:29:29,072 --> 01:29:31,491 I'd want you to go back to that same moment, 1986 01:29:31,616 --> 01:29:33,159 from where we're looking out the window, 1987 01:29:33,284 --> 01:29:35,036 and you see the stars so clear. 1988 01:29:39,791 --> 01:29:42,877 I just want to hold each other and, you know? 1989 01:29:43,002 --> 01:29:44,754 One of the biggest things anybody wants to hear 1990 01:29:44,879 --> 01:29:46,756 is that things are just gonna be okay. 1991 01:29:47,340 --> 01:29:50,426 And when I hear that voice, it's ever so soft in my head, 1992 01:29:50,551 --> 01:29:52,178 and I know a lot of times, 1993 01:29:53,429 --> 01:29:56,641 he's one of the voices that says, it's gonna be okay. 1994 01:29:58,518 --> 01:29:59,644 And, 1995 01:30:01,104 --> 01:30:03,648 I would want to tell him it's gonna be okay. 1996 01:30:04,565 --> 01:30:05,650 [music continues] 1997 01:30:23,334 --> 01:30:24,544 [music ends] 1998 01:30:38,975 --> 01:30:42,103 [ending music] 1999 01:31:42,455 --> 01:31:44,749 [music fades] 148552

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