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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,720 This programme contains very strong language 2 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,760 and allegations of domestic violence 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,920 that some viewers may find upsetting. 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,520 You don't have to direct Johnny Depp. 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,320 Amber! 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,800 Johnny Depp. 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,760 He's one of Hollywood's biggest and most successful stars. 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,040 Actors Johnny Depp and Amber Heard... 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Hundreds of miles away from the glitz and glamour of Hollywood... 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,640 Johnny Depp's defamation trial 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:52,120 against his ex-wife, Amber Heard, is set to start in Northern Virginia. 12 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,520 Just in case you've got lost in the soap opera, 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,720 a $50 million claim by 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Johnny Depp that Amber Heard defamed him. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,600 She wrote a 2018 op-ed in The Washington Post referring 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,720 to herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse. 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,320 Depp and his legal team say that Heard is outright lying 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,720 and that those lies have devastated his career. 19 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Heard countersued for 100 million in damages, 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,960 alleging the actor's legal team tried 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,600 to defame her by calling her claims a hoax. 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Neither Depp nor Heard live or work here in Virginia, but 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,920 because The Washington Post has servers here 24 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:32,080 and a printer here in Virginia, 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,960 Fairfax County residents are gonna decide their fate 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 in this $50 million case. 27 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,560 All right. 28 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Everybody. 29 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Right now, I am on my way 30 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:18,000 to the Fairfax County courthouse to get into line. 31 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,960 Day one of the Johnny Depp trial. 32 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,440 There's gonna be 100 spectators 33 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,240 and it's gonna be a mix of media and just civilians, 34 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,640 you know, supporters, fans. 35 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Johnny Depp! 36 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:31,480 I hear it's first come, first served, 37 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,280 so gotta be there bright and early. 38 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,520 Oh, wait, I got a... 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Perfect. 40 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Oh, OK, I'm going for it. I love you guys. Pass it along. 41 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,160 Let's flip it up so you guys can see. Good morning! Good morning! 42 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,240 How are we feeling, line? 43 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,880 You know what to do. Hashtag #RespectForTheLine. 44 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:56,880 Justice for the line. 45 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:58,800 OK, so if you're like official media, you have 46 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,000 to be on that side of the street, right? 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,680 If you're like just a fan, you can be over here. 48 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,520 So I can kinda get like a closer look at Johnny. 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,240 Johnny Depp is suing his ex-wife, Amber Heard, 50 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,360 for $50 million in damages, claiming she defamed him. 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,680 Welcome back. We're getting a closer look into 52 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,000 the lives of Hollywood's elites as part of 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 the defamation lawsuit between A-lister Johnny Depp 54 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,000 and ex-wife Amber Heard. 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,520 Here's what we've got so far. 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Depp is suing Heard in a $50 million defamation suit, 57 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,000 based on a Washington Post op-ed written by Heard. 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,760 I know lots of people are talking about this, 59 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,920 I know there's lots of live streams happening, so... 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,320 You can go watch the trial yourself and make your own opinions of it. 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,360 It's online, you can go to YouTube right now and watch it. 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Johnny, we love you! 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Today is a different kind of show 64 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,880 because we are going to be watching 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,480 the opening statements in the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard case, 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,560 and going through them with commentary. 67 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,520 All right. So I got my spectator pass and that is awesome. 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,920 OK. So we're up here on the fifth floor, 69 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,720 that's where his trial's taking place. 70 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Not supposed to be on our phones, 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,200 definitely not supposed to be recording up here. 72 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,320 There's no Amber Heard fans, it's only, 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,080 it's only Johnny Depp fans. 74 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Nobody's there for Amber. 75 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,800 What's up, guys? Welcome to Lawsplaining, 76 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:26,040 and I hope you are ready. 77 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,760 This is one of 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,560 the first high-profile Me Too defamation cases that's 79 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,560 making it into a courtroom. 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,080 That is huge news. 81 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,840 Hey, there we are. There's the man himself. 82 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,920 Johnny D. That's a nice tie! I like that tie. 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,880 All right. We're ready for the jury? Yes, Ma'am. OK, great. 84 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,840 So how is it that Court TV 85 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,600 and other stations are even allowed 86 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,200 to broadcast this trial? 87 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Why do we have such crazy access into 88 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,600 the Fairfax County courthouse? In Virginia, 89 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,120 that decision is solely up to the judge 90 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,760 and the judge in this case signed an order permitting 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,720 a pool camera to broadcast the trial. 92 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to go over 93 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,560 the responsibilities you have as jurors, OK, in this case. 94 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,640 Right, so you're not to read, watch or listen 95 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,440 to anything about this case on any social networking sites. 96 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,960 What you learn about this case is limited 97 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,760 to what you learn in the four walls of this courtroom, OK? 98 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Are we ready with opening statements? 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,640 The judge is asking for Johnny Depp's attorney's opening statement. 100 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,040 I'm going to cut to a full screen, but I will chime in 101 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,640 with some commentary if there are some breaks. 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,000 But here we go live on Popcorned Planet, here in Virginia. 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,240 - Good morning. - Good morning. 104 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:46,960 This is a defamation case. 105 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:53,200 It's a case about how devastating words can be when they are false 106 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,240 and uttered publicly. 107 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:58,360 For nearly 30 years, 108 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Mr Depp built a reputation as one of 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,000 the most talented actors in Hollywood. 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Today his name is associated with 111 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,600 a lie uttered by his former wife, 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,440 the defendant, Amber Heard. Specifically, 113 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,040 the words that she used, 114 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,040 published in The Washington Post 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,440 in December 2018. 116 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,240 Quote - "Two years ago, 117 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:29,240 "I became a public figure representing domestic abuse. 118 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:34,000 "I had the rare vantage point of seeing in real time 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,360 "how institutions protect men accused of abuse." 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,160 Miss Heard did not use Mr Depp's name in the op-ed. 121 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,880 She didn't have to. 122 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Two years earlier, 123 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,680 Miss Heard had publicly accused Johnny Depp of domestic abuse. 124 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Amber, did Johnny give you that bruise on your face? 125 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Johnny Depp, accused of domestic abuse in his 126 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 sudden split from actress Amber Heard. 127 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,800 Did Johnny brutalise you? 128 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:10,920 In the wake of the Me Too movement, 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,160 Amber Heard forever changed Mr Depp's life 130 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,240 and reputation. 131 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,600 This trial is about clearing Mr Depp's name of 132 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,440 a terrible and false allegation. 133 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,080 All right. Thank you. 134 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Mr Rottenborn. 135 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,480 May I approach? Yes, sir. 136 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,040 - Good morning, everyone. - Good morning. 137 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Mr Depp's team is gonna try to turn this case into 138 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,520 a soap opera. 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Why? I'm not really sure, 140 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,200 because the evidence isn't pretty for Mr Depp. It's not. 141 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,000 You're gonna see who the real Johnny Depp is. 142 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Behind the fame, behind the pirate costume, 143 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,360 the man who has described himself, 144 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,080 the violent side of himself, as the monster. 145 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,040 The monster. 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,080 You don't see The Washington Post sitting here as 147 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,120 the defendant in this courtroom. He only sued Amber. 148 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,600 He could have sued The Washington Post, 149 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 they published the article, but he didn't. 150 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,960 And he chose to bring Amber to court here in Virginia, 151 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,560 where she has no ties, has never lived, 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,360 he's never lived, where they never spent any time. 153 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,040 Because he wanted to ruin her life. 154 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,200 To haunt her. 155 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,880 To wreck her career. 156 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,080 It's not about 157 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,920 the soap opera that Depp will turn this case into. 158 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,320 It's not about who you like better. 159 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,440 It's not even about whether you agree with 160 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,360 the words that she wrote. 161 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,840 It's about her right to speak them. 162 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,200 Johnny Depp has one of the most brilliant legal teams 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,200 and if you need proof of that I've got a word for you - Virginia. 164 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,560 Why would two celebrities from California, 165 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,120 arguing about something written in The Washington Post, 166 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,320 file a case in Virginia? In the USA, defamation laws vary state by state, 167 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,400 and Virginia has some of the best defamation laws 168 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,440 for a matter like this. 169 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,840 Just so we're on the same page, this is not a divorce case. 170 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,840 This is not a domestic violence case. 171 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,560 I would argue it's a PR campaign disguised as 172 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,680 a defamation case. 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,400 I don't think Johnny's intention is to win the case here. 174 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,680 I think his intention is to clear his name 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,280 and to control his reputation. 176 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,920 There is no PR campaign that has a chance of making 177 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,320 an impact as powerful as this trial. 178 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Depp was the one who wanted the cameras in the courtroom. 179 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,320 Oh, really? She didn't. 180 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,000 Your first witness. Your Honour, we'd like to call 181 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Laura Amber Heard to the stand. All right. 182 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,720 Will you please state your name? 183 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Yes, it's Amber Laura Heard. 184 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,720 OK. Now, why are you here? 185 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,000 I am here because my ex-husband is 186 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,400 suing me for an op-ed I wrote. 187 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,960 And how do you feel about that? 188 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:15,880 I, erm... 189 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,840 I struggle to have the words. 190 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,840 I struggle to find the words to describe how, 191 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,160 er, painful this is. 192 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Erm, this is horrible. 193 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,600 OK? Yes, Ma'am. Good afternoon, Mr Depp. 194 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Good afternoon. 195 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,080 Can you please tell the jury why you're here today? 196 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,280 Erm, yes. Erm... 197 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,160 ..about six years ago, 198 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:59,400 Miss Heard made some quite heinous accusations against me that, er, 199 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,360 that were not based in any species of truth. 200 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,200 The infamous People magazine cover with Miss Heard with a... 201 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,200 a dark bruise on her face. 202 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,400 Nothing of the kind had ever happened, 203 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,720 though there were... 204 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,920 erm, arguments. 205 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:41,240 But never...did I myself reach the point of, erm, 206 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,000 striking Miss Heard in any way, 207 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,960 nor have I ever struck, erm, any woman. 208 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Please describe for the jury your experience 209 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,480 in auditioning for The Rum Diary. 210 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Well, I auditioned a few times, 211 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,800 which is common in my work, 212 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,800 and then I got a call saying that Johnny wanted 213 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 to meet me in person. 214 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,000 I thought I would be going for maybe an audition, 215 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,160 but it was just a meeting. I went to his office 216 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,920 and, and met with him for a few hours. 217 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,960 She came to my office, I took one look at her, 218 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,360 and I thought, "Yep, that's the one." 219 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,520 That's when I first met Miss Heard. 220 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,960 We talked about books and music, poetry. 221 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:45,440 We like a lot of the same... We liked a lot of the same stuff. 222 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,120 I was so surprised that somebody, you know, 223 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,280 I'm a no-name actor, I was 22, I think, 224 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,280 and he was twice my age and he's this world-famous actor 225 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,800 and here we are getting along about 226 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,240 old blues and I thought it was unusual and remarkable. 227 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,640 I left there just feeling like, wow. 228 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,120 I remember there was a scene where I was taking a shower 229 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,360 and then she comes into the room and she walks, 230 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,600 opens the shower and we kiss. 231 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,200 It felt like something that I shouldn't be feeling. 232 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,560 There are certain things that you do in the job to, 233 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,280 erm, be professional, 234 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,680 like when you have to do that sort of scene. 235 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,280 And you don't, like... 236 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,640 you don't use your tongue, if you can, if you can avoid it. 237 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:53,040 There are certain things that you do to just maintain a certain line 238 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,160 and it just felt like those lines were blurred. 239 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,800 I mean, he grabbed my face 240 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,880 and pulled me into him and really kissed me. 241 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Did he use his tongue? 242 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,680 Yes. 243 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,440 That day after... 244 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:12,280 work, Miss Heard had come to my trailer. 245 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:19,280 He kind of playfully kind of pushed me down on this like bed/sofa 246 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,720 that was in his trailer. Just playful, 247 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,280 erm, and flirtatious, and he said, "Yum!" 248 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Meeting an actress like Amber Heard, 249 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,520 she's of another era, you know. 250 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,080 I mean, it's like walking into a room 251 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,040 and meeting Veronica Lake or Bette Davis or, 252 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,400 you know, Lauren Bacall. 253 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,960 I called her Slim. 254 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,720 I called her Slim 255 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,000 and she called me Steve. 256 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,440 What do you think you're gonna do? 257 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,200 I'm gonna get that wallet, Slim. 258 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,600 You know, Steve, 259 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,240 I wouldn't put it past you. 260 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,760 My God, when Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall, 261 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,640 that's when they met on that film, 262 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,960 he was 45 years old, and she was 19. 263 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,400 What did you do that for? 264 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,600 I've been wondering whether I'd like it. 265 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,360 What's the decision? 266 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,880 I don't know yet. 267 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,920 They stayed together until Bogart passed away. 268 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,440 So, I acknowledged the, 269 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,080 the fact that I was the old craggy Bogie, 270 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,680 and she was this... 271 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,560 beautiful creature. 272 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Just this stunning creature. 273 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,280 It was a beautiful place, a beautiful time. 274 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,080 And... 275 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,240 I fell head over heels in love with this man. 276 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,800 She seemed to be the perfect partner. 277 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Literate, sweet, funny. 278 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,520 She was, she was wonderful. 279 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Hello, everybody. Welcome to Darth News. 280 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,600 This is gonna be a Day 1 recap. I was in the courtroom, 281 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,880 I was sitting there, live in person, 282 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,000 so I'm just gonna give you my first-hand account. 283 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,640 I'm not a legal scholar, I'm not a lawyer, I do this for fun, 284 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,800 but I have like a dog in the fight because I actually give 285 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,840 a fuck about Johnny Depp... 286 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,240 and men's rights. 287 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,440 Amber! Amber! Amber! 288 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,520 Johnny! Johnny! 289 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Can you describe your relationship with Mr Depp? 290 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Do you remember the first time that he physically hit you? 291 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Yes. Please tell the jury about it. 292 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,160 I will never forget it. It changed my life. 293 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,080 I was sitting on the couch, 294 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:09,960 and I ask him about the tattoo he has on his arm. 295 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,480 I didn't know what it said, 296 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,600 it just looked like a muddled, faded tattoo that was hard to read. 297 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,640 Well, the, erm... 298 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,640 what... A tattoo which used to say, 299 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,720 "Winona Forever," who was a former girlfriend, 300 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,680 Winona Ryder, and, er, when we broke up, 301 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,360 I took off the last two letters and had it say, "Wino Forever." 302 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,720 I didn't see that, I thought he was joking, 303 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,840 because it didn't look like it said that at all and I laughed. 304 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,720 And he slapped me across the face. 305 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,680 I just stared at him, kind of laughing still, 306 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,360 thinking that he was gonna start laughing too 307 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,240 to tell me it was a joke. But he didn't. 308 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,240 He said, "You think it's so funny. You think it's funny, bitch. 309 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,400 "You think you're a funny bitch." And he slapped me again. 310 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,560 Hard. 311 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,920 I was just sitting there looking at the dirty carpet, 312 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,280 wondering why I never noticed that the carpet was so filthy before 313 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,920 and I just didn't know what else to do. I didn't know what to say, 314 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,320 I didn't know how to react, because, God, did he just hit me? 315 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,680 Mr Depp, what is your response to that? 316 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,200 It... 317 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,800 It didn't... It didn't happen. I... 318 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,440 have never struck Miss Heard. 319 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,800 I wish I could sit here and say I stood up 320 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,760 and I walked out of that house and I drew a line 321 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,640 and I stood up for myself. 322 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,320 I was just looking at the...dirty carpet, 323 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,840 trying to will myself to get up. 324 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,400 I was...heartbroken. 325 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,560 She's acting. 326 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,360 She's lying. 327 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,240 Will you please state your name for the record? 328 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,720 Whitney Henriquez. 329 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,360 And you're Amber's sister? 330 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,520 I am. 331 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Describe your relationship with Mr Depp in the early stages. 332 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,680 We got along really well at first. Erm, 333 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,440 he was sober at the time and Johnny, when he's sober, 334 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,600 is very bright and beautiful 335 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,400 and lovely and kind and generous, 336 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,240 and he was very easy to get to know 337 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,040 and frankly, we all fell in love with him...at first. 338 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,440 But very quickly this pattern emerged 339 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,360 as their relationship went on, 340 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,360 that if Johnny was using or if he was drinking 341 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,200 there was almost always a fight. 342 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Johnny, when sober, was lovely and magical and very funny. 343 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:56,480 Cocaine and any kind of alcohol... 344 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,280 would bring out a very, very ugly side of him. 345 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,840 Erm, very misogynistic and cruel. 346 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,480 He was almost unrecognisable when he was drinking 347 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,400 and using to an excess. He would just get very angry, 348 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,320 and he would just say really horrible things about her. 349 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:18,440 He would weave these elaborate situations in which 350 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,800 Amber was having affairs 351 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,680 with every man that she ever worked with 352 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,000 and every woman she ever came in contact with. 353 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,920 He became very demeaning. You know, 354 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,800 she has no talent and when her tits start to sag, 355 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,640 and her face gets wrinkly nobody is gonna be interested in her. 356 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,720 He called her a fucking used-up trash bag. 357 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,640 Er, slimy whore, saggy whore. 358 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,520 You know, "fucking cunt," was thrown out a bunch. 359 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Just horrible things like that. 360 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,160 Ah! 361 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Motherfucker! Motherfucker! What happened? 362 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,840 Nothing happened this morning, you know that? 363 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,480 All I did was say sorry. Did something happen 364 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,800 to you... 365 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,880 ..this morning? I don't think so. 366 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,880 No. That's the thing. 367 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,200 You wanna see crazy? I'll give you fucking crazy. 368 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Here's crazy. 369 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,400 Oh, you're crazy. You're crazy. 370 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,120 Have you drunk this whole thing this morning? 371 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Oh, you've got this going. You've got this going?! 372 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,640 I just started it. Oh, really? Really? 373 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,640 So she's trying to record him without him even knowing that. 374 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,160 Why did you videotape this, Amber? 375 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,400 Yeah, good question. 376 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Cos I knew he...wouldn't remember. 377 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Objection. Cause for speculation. Sustained. 378 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,880 When somebody breaks something in anger in your presence, 379 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,200 that is legally an act of abuse. 380 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,680 And he is, he's... Look at him, I mean, he's kicking stuff, 381 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,840 he's slamming stuff, he's breaking stuff. 382 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,200 She's like, "Hey, what's going on?" 383 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,760 And here, I know he wasn't hitting her, 384 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,880 but he was doing some very aggressive things 385 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,000 and directly in her presence. 386 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,320 And if she's coming in and saying like "Well, hey, 387 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,400 "here's this confrontation that happened. 388 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,000 "I was intimidated by it, I felt this was an act of abuse," 389 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,720 then she can give her opinion that, "I was in an abusive relationship." 390 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,080 I'm not, you know, trying to defend her and say it, 391 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:12,560 but I'm just saying, you know, it's, it's a huge problem for him. 392 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,400 Morning, Mr Depp. 393 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,480 Morning, Mr Rottenborn. 394 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,880 Mr Depp, we've talked about this a little bit, 395 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,360 but you've testified that abuse can come in many forms. 396 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,120 Correct? Physical being one of them. 397 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,160 Indeed. 398 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,240 Verbal. Indeed. 399 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,960 Psychological abuse. Indeed. 400 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,320 And you would agree that you were violent in that clip. Correct? 401 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:39,280 Erm, clearly, I was having a bad time. 402 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,160 I felt what was most interesting is that she tried 403 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,840 to hide it from me and then that she laughed 404 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,880 and smiled at the end. 405 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,640 I thought that was the most interesting part, myself. 406 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,800 So, yes, I, I did assault, erm, a couple of cabinets, 407 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,600 but I did not touch Miss Heard. As you can see, I think, you know. 408 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,680 And you may have been drunk in that video, correct? 409 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,120 There's a possibility of that, yes, sir. 410 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,920 You, you, you poured yourself a, 411 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,600 erm, a megapint of red wine. Correct? 412 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 A megapint? 413 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Yeah. 414 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,560 I poured myself a large glass of wine. 415 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,920 Right. I thought it necessary. 416 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Wait for it. 417 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,160 A megapint? 418 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,240 I poured myself a large glass of wine. 419 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,480 A megapint? 420 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,840 The lawyer conducting Johnny Depp's cross-examination said, 421 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,800 "We saw you pour a, sort of..." Johnny Depp says, "A megapint." 422 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,280 The lawyer says, "A megapint of red wine, 423 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,360 "which is not everybody's choice for breakfast, is it?" 424 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,920 That's Amber. 425 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,240 All she needs to prove is that he abused her. 426 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,520 I say "all" but either she's making everything up 427 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,400 or there's been abuse. 428 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,800 It's not only social media, but when his SUV pulls up at court, 429 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,160 no matter what Amber Heard alleges, 430 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,840 there's a crowd out there who are just gobsmacked by Johnny Depp. 431 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,840 Johnny! Johnny! 432 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Remember, none of us were there. 433 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,480 With us, it's who do we believe? 434 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,640 But never, ever forget, 435 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,360 we were not there. 436 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,360 Good morning, Mr Depp. 437 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,720 Good morning. 438 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,360 Mr Depp, I'd like to discuss April 2016 now. Erm... 439 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,160 Hmm. 440 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Well, take a look at this gem in the historic core of Downtown LA, 441 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,440 this is the Eastern Columbia Building, 442 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,080 one of the most prestigious places 443 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,600 to live in Downtown Los Angeles. 444 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,960 Johnny Depp owned five penthouses here, 445 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720 this Art Deco gem at the corner of Broadway and 9th. 446 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,040 My birthday was coming up and we had a dinner planned 447 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,080 at our penthouse. 448 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:49,320 He told me at some point that day that he had scheduled 449 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,480 a business meeting, 450 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,400 or a money meeting, I think he said, maybe. 451 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,680 I was about an hour and 40 minutes late maybe, something like that. 452 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,880 Mr Depp, when you arrived at the party, 453 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,360 how did Miss Heard greet you, if at all? 454 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,800 Very cold. 455 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,440 It was a big deal to you that Mr Depp was late 456 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,120 to your birthday dinner, wasn't it? 457 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,160 Yeah. Yeah, it did matter to me. 458 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,040 And you were upset he was late? 459 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,200 I was. I was hurt. 460 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,520 She squared off at me in the doorway of our bedroom. 461 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,880 I, I remember him blocking the door, blocking me to get out, 462 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,240 kind of shoving me down and we had a, 463 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,080 you know, a verbal argument, and then that became 464 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,120 a shoving match. I tried to shove him back. 465 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,680 And I said, "Go ahead, hit me." 466 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,120 Bam. 467 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,920 Movie scene. 468 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,960 And I just said, 469 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040 "Is that what you wanted? Would you like another?" 470 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,120 I wanna hug this man. 471 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Bam. 472 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,880 There's the second one. And I said, "Good. 473 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,120 "Now you're done." Grabbed her by the shoulders, 474 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,680 walked her to the bed, sat her down and said... 475 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,240 "Don't follow me, leave me alone. I'm out, I'm gone." 476 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,480 Johnny wrestled me down on the bed. 477 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520 I remember I got up once or twice before I ended up on 478 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,920 the bed and he grabbed me, erm, 479 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,680 did this thing that he did sometimes when he would taunt me. 480 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,880 He grabbed me by the... 481 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,680 erm, the pubic...bone, 482 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,920 just pushed me down, 483 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,720 held me down by it and kind of pulled me into it and, 484 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080 erm, was kind of taunting me, 485 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,920 asking me if I thought I was so fucking tough. 486 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,200 "You think you're such a fucking tough guy, huh? 487 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,040 "Are you so tough now? Look who's so tough. You wanna be a man?" 488 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600 It's insane... 489 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:51,520 to hear heinous accusations of violence, 490 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,600 sexual violence, 491 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,520 that she's attributed to me, that she's accused me of. 492 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,400 But he's saying, "We're fucking done here. 493 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,280 "We're divorcing, this is over." And then at 4.30am, on April 22nd, 494 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,880 which is Amber's birthday, he left Amber. 495 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040 Yes, he leaves Amber like 496 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,880 for "good" quote, unquote, on her birthday. 497 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,080 What a savage. 498 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,400 # Go, go 499 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,760 # Go, Johnny, go, go... # 500 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560 My friends, this is the patriarchy at work. 501 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Heard's being called a whore, a gold digger, 502 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480 a crazy bitch, manipulative, a monster. 503 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,760 He is being given empathy 504 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,840 and forgiveness for his transgressions 505 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,200 in a way Heard is not. 506 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,520 It's victim blaming at its finest. 507 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960 This is why people don't report abuse. 508 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,760 So far, who do you believe in this story here? 509 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,400 I kind of believe both of 'em. 510 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,480 OK. They're on the stand, they're under oath. Yeah. 511 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,600 They're not allowed to lie 512 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480 and if they caught in a lie, it's big trouble. 513 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,560 In terms of it being public, 514 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280 well, that's, er, that's showbiz, isn't it? 515 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240 The day after your birthday dinner, you and your friends went to Coachella 516 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,000 to celebrate your birthday. Is that correct? 517 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,160 That is correct. 518 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,360 You featured in that video, driving. 519 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,560 That's correct. 520 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,040 I had gone to one of my security team and said, 521 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,360 "She's in Coachella. 522 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,840 "I think it's a good time to go Downtown 523 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040 "so that I can get some of my things, you know." 524 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,800 And he said, "I don't think now's a good time to go." 525 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,040 Ah. And I thought, "It's the perfect time, 526 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,960 "she's not gonna be home for two days." 527 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,440 And then he showed me a photograph on his telephone. 528 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,520 What was the photograph of, Mr Depp? 529 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,040 Poop! Say it. Poop! 530 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840 It was a... It was, err... 531 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,920 It was a photograph of the bed 532 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,560 and on my side of the bed... 533 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200 ..erm... 534 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680 was human faecal matter. 535 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,960 He knows how fucking stupid it is. 536 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,960 My initial response to that, 537 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,360 that some human being had actually 538 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,560 dropped a, erm... 539 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,440 ..grumpy onto the bed... 540 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,240 ..it was so bizarre. 541 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,040 ..and so grotesque... 542 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,160 ..that I could only laugh. 543 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,160 If you raise your right hand for me. 544 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Do you swear firm to tell the truth under penalty of law? 545 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,680 I do. Right. Thank you sir. 546 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,920 Mr Jenkins, 547 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,560 do you know the plaintiff in this case, Johnny Depp? 548 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,120 Yes, I do. Were you also going to Coachella with Miss Heard? 549 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,480 Yes, I was. I was the transportation for Amber 550 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760 and her friends while she was at Coachella. 551 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080 And did you have any discussions with Miss Heard on 552 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,080 the way to Coachella that evening? 553 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520 We had a conversation pertaining to the surprise she left in 554 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,160 the boss's bed prior to leaving the apartment. 555 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,640 And what did Miss Heard say about the defecation in Mr Depp's bed? 556 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200 A horrible practical joke gone wrong. 557 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,120 Did you commit any kind of prank? 558 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,720 Absolutely not. 559 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,560 First of all, I don't think that's funny. 560 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840 Period. That's disgusting. 561 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Er, and she tried to blame it on the dogs. 562 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,000 What, if any, issues did Boo have 563 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,320 with her bathroom problems, if you will? Oh, they're disparaging the dog. 564 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,280 Johnny's dog, at, at the time, Boo, 565 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,000 she had eaten Johnny's weed when she was 566 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,080 a puppy and had bowel control issues. 567 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,560 Why didn't you think it could have been the dogs? 568 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,280 They're teacup Yorkies. They weigh about 4lbs each. 569 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,080 It was clear that did not come from a dog. 570 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,440 That's probably one of the first times that he really realised 571 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,720 the depths of how fucking insane that she was. 572 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000 It was shown on the record that Depp sent this text. 573 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Quote, "Will you squat in front of the door of the master bedroom 574 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160 "and leave a giant coil of dookie so that Amber steps in it 575 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,480 "and thinks that one of the dogs, primarily Boo has a major problem. 576 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,400 "It'll be funny." 577 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,360 On the 29th of October, 2014, 578 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,000 Miss Heard wrote in a text message 579 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,320 to Kevin Murphy that quote, "Last night, she..." as in Boo, 580 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,120 "shit on Johnny while he was sleeping, like all over him, 581 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,920 "not exaggerating." 582 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,640 Again, public record. 583 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,200 Mr Depp, why did you go over to the penthouses on May 21st, 2016? 584 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440 Miss Heard had requested 585 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,400 that I come over to have a talk. 586 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,840 I went over there with my security team, 587 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,920 Jerry Judge and Sean Bett, just in case anything went down. 588 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,640 Good morning, Mr Bett. 589 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,120 Good morning. 590 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,600 Do you see this on your screen, Mr Bett? 591 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,200 I do. 592 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:40,760 That's you in that black and white shirt, right? 593 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,960 That's me. 594 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,240 That's Mr Depp in the hat and that's Mr Judge to his left? 595 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,440 Correct. 596 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,200 This video is when you're entering the Eastern Columbia Building 597 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:53,320 to take him to Penthouse 3, correct? 598 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,840 That's correct. 599 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,880 Johnny and I had not seen each other for 600 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,640 the better part of a month. 601 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,080 I mean, I could tell he was inebriated 602 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,680 but it was peaceful. 603 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:08,200 And then he starts talking about the faeces again, 604 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:13,120 and this prank that he said one of my friends had left 605 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,520 for him in my bed. 606 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,440 Our marriage was falling apart in front of our eyes, 607 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,920 we hadn't seen each other for a month, 608 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,640 and I couldn't believe he wanted to talk about faeces. 609 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000 So, I call this friend, 610 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,720 thinking that we'll take care of it, and I say... 611 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,880 Tell us who that person is. Io. 612 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,000 She put me on speaker phone. 613 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:41,240 She said, "Johnny thinks that you and I, together, 614 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,160 "defecated on his pillow." 615 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,600 So I started laughing 616 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,080 and he got very agitated by the fact that she 617 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,800 and I thought it was funny. 618 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,520 And when I realised that he was serious, 619 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,400 I was like, "OK, look, 620 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,680 "you know, first of all I wasn't there that day." 621 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,120 It just made Johnny madder. He got more upset, 622 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,280 grabbed the phone 623 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,960 and started screaming expletives, insulting names. 624 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000 And I said to Io, "You can have her now, 625 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,880 "she's yours, she's all yours." Right? 626 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,280 He tosses the, the phone, you know, 627 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,880 down on the couch and heads upstairs. 628 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,680 And I pick up the phone, Io said, "Amber, 629 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,600 "get out of the house, get out of the house now, 630 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,120 "you're not safe." 631 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,040 Johnny came bolting down the stairs, 632 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,240 grabbed the phone from my hand, 633 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,120 just pulls his arm back with the phone 634 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,280 and throws it at my face. 635 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,080 Hit me right in my, it felt like my, my eye. 636 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,520 I was by the refrigerator at this point, I was 20 feet away. 637 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,000 Where was Miss Heard at that time? 638 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,840 She was still sitting on the couch. 639 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,800 He comes over to me, erm, as I'm crying, 640 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960 he says, "Oh, yeah, I hit you, huh? 641 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,800 "What if I pull your hair back? What if I pull your hair back?" 642 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,600 He said to her, 643 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,600 "Oh, you think I hit you? 644 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,760 "You think I fucking hit you? 645 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,480 "What if I peel your fucking hair back?" 646 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,480 And then I heard the phone drop again and then I heard her scream. 647 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,040 She's still got Io on the phone, 648 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,760 and that's when the screaming started. 649 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,480 "Stop hitting me, Johnny," she's screaming, 650 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,600 in, in her best, erm... 651 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,880 freaked out, upset voice, high-pitched. 652 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,960 We could hear this screaming 653 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,600 and shouting from Miss Heard, so I immediately opened up 654 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,200 the door and Mr Judge and I ran in there. 655 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,440 The next thing I hear is, "Boss. Boss." And I realise 656 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,000 that his two security guards had come into the, to the apartment. 657 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,920 She had this look of surprise on her face 658 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,840 and then she looked at Mr Depp and us 659 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,680 and she shouted out loud, 660 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,920 "This is the last time you do this to me." 661 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160 "That's the last time you'll ever hit me. 662 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,280 "That's the last time you'll ever do that to me." 663 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,400 And again, I'm, I'm a good 20 feet away, by the fridge. 664 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,480 At which point Mr Depp looked at her and said, 665 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,520 "What the hell are you talking about?" 666 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,960 I remember her screaming. 667 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,520 And I hung up the phone, and I called 911. 668 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,480 Officers, how you doing? 669 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,400 We're just coming in to check. 670 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160 We need to make sure everybody in here is OK. 671 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,760 Why didn't you want to cooperate with the police? 672 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,280 Because I, I... 673 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,320 I wanted to protect Johnny. 674 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,400 I didn't want him to be arrested. 675 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,160 She's out back. 676 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,560 All right. 677 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,600 My best friend took pictures of me. 678 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:32,560 This is my face after the phone incident. 679 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,680 Did you have a clear view of Miss Heard? 680 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,440 I did. Did you have a clear view of her face? I did. 681 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,680 Did you observe any injuries on Miss Heard's face? 682 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:42,880 None. 683 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,840 Johnny Depp's soon-to-be ex-wife has received 684 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,360 a domestic violence restraining order against the movie star. 685 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,080 Amber Heard presented this photograph in court as evidence of 686 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,520 the alleged domestic violence. 687 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,200 Hey, Amber. 688 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,080 Amber, did Johnny give you that bruise on your face? 689 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Did Johnny beat you up? 690 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,480 I saw that she had gone to a court 691 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,040 and there were paparazzi everywhere and her... 692 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,200 a...erm, a mark on her face. 693 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,520 Have you ever been accused of physically abusing 694 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,840 a woman before this point? 695 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,000 No. 696 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,440 No. 697 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480 The fact that she's on tape admitting 698 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,360 to hitting Johnny Depp, 699 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,880 for her to have written this op-ed 700 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,920 for The Washington Post and 701 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,320 essentially propped herself up 702 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,680 as a figurehead in 703 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,720 the Me Too movement so to speak. Right. 704 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,200 Yeah, it...I think you, you just feel really betrayed. 705 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,600 It's so triggering to so many people. 706 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,760 As a victim and a survivor of domestic violence, 707 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,240 even though it's sexist, you do wanna kind of back the female. 708 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,000 But so far, I feel like she was more the aggressor. 709 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Look, they can both be wrong. Amber can be awful, 710 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,840 you can totally believe that, 711 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,280 but we can't use that as a reason for Johnny Depp 712 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,600 to be absolved of the clearly awful things 713 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,760 that he has done. 714 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,360 All right. Cross examination. 715 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,160 Cross examination. Here we go. 716 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,840 Good afternoon, Miss Heard. 717 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,080 Good afternoon. Starting out respectful. 718 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,160 Mr Depp hasn't looked at you once this entire trial, has he? 719 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,000 Ooh! No, he has not. 720 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,200 Not that I've noticed, no. 721 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:30,320 You know exactly why Mr Depp won't look back at you, don't you? 722 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,440 I do. 723 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,560 One of the last times you ever saw Mr Depp was when you met him in 724 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,480 San Francisco in July of 2016. 725 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,120 And this is after you had obtained 726 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,720 the domestic violence restraining order against him. 727 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,880 That's correct. 728 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,680 Oh, right into audio. 729 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,920 That's you and Mr Depp in that recording. 730 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,880 That is. And he kept that promise, hasn't he? 731 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,240 As far as I know, he cannot look at me. 732 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,320 He cannot. 733 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,240 He won't look at you, right, Miss Heard? He can't. 734 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,400 Let's please play Plaintiff's Exhibit 357A, 735 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,800 which is already in evidence, Your Honour. 736 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,800 That's your voice on that recording right? 737 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,480 Yes, it is. You didn't think he would tell the world he was 738 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,920 a victim of domestic violence, did you? 739 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,600 I thought it would be crazy for him to do so, 740 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,480 knowing what I know we lived through. 741 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000 What did you say in response when Miss Heard said, 742 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,120 "Tell the world, Johnny. Tell them, Johnny Depp, 743 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,640 "I'm a victim too of domestic violence"? 744 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,800 I said, "Yes. I am." 745 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,920 Miss Heard, Mr Depp is your victim, isn't he? 746 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,400 No, Ma'am. 747 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,000 And once he left you, 748 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,640 you continued to abuse him publicly by calling him 749 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,200 an abuser, didn't you? 750 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:35,480 He is an abuser 751 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040 and you can look either of us up online 752 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,640 and figure out who's being abused online. 753 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,040 Amber Turd! Amber Turd! 754 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,880 This is a battle of optics. 755 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,480 This is not so much about 756 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,720 the legal merits but rather what the public perception is. 757 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:14,120 If you just look at public opinion, no-one really believes Amber Heard. 758 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,680 I don't buy it for a... Do you buy this?! 759 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:21,880 The hashtag #JusticeForJohnnyDepp has more than 4 billion views 760 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,640 on TikTok. It seems the internet has made up 761 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,840 its mind without this court case even coming to a close. Wow. 762 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,320 Ah. 763 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400 Yeah. Amber's fucked. 764 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,840 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 59617

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