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This programme contains
very strong language
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and allegations of domestic violence
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that some viewers
may find upsetting.
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You don't have to direct
Johnny Depp.
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Amber!
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Johnny Depp.
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He's one of Hollywood's biggest
and most successful stars.
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Actors Johnny Depp and
Amber Heard...
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Hundreds of miles away from the
glitz and glamour of Hollywood...
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Johnny Depp's defamation trial
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against his ex-wife, Amber Heard, is
set to start in Northern Virginia.
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Just in case you've got lost in
the soap opera,
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a $50 million claim by
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Johnny Depp that Amber Heard
defamed him.
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She wrote a 2018 op-ed in
The Washington Post referring
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to herself as a public figure
representing domestic abuse.
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Depp and his legal team say that
Heard is outright lying
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and that those lies have devastated
his career.
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Heard countersued for 100 million
in damages,
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alleging the actor's legal
team tried
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to defame her by calling her claims
a hoax.
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Neither Depp nor Heard live or work
here in Virginia, but
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because The Washington Post has
servers here
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and a printer here in Virginia,
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Fairfax County residents are gonna
decide their fate
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in this $50 million case.
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All right.
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Everybody.
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Right now, I am on my way
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to the Fairfax County courthouse
to get into line.
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Day one of the Johnny Depp trial.
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There's gonna be 100 spectators
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and it's gonna be a mix of media
and just civilians,
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you know, supporters, fans.
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Johnny Depp!
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I hear it's first come,
first served,
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so gotta be there bright and early.
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Oh, wait, I got a...
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Perfect.
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Oh, OK, I'm going for it.
I love you guys. Pass it along.
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Let's flip it up so you guys can
see. Good morning! Good morning!
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How are we feeling, line?
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You know what to do.
Hashtag #RespectForTheLine.
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Justice for the line.
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OK, so if you're like
official media, you have
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to be on that side of the street,
right?
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If you're like just a fan,
you can be over here.
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So I can kinda get like
a closer look at Johnny.
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Johnny Depp is suing his ex-wife,
Amber Heard,
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for $50 million in damages,
claiming she defamed him.
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Welcome back.
We're getting a closer look into
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the lives of Hollywood's elites
as part of
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the defamation lawsuit between
A-lister Johnny Depp
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and ex-wife Amber Heard.
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Here's what we've got so far.
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Depp is suing Heard in
a $50 million defamation suit,
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based on a Washington Post op-ed
written by Heard.
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I know lots of people are talking
about this,
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I know there's lots of live streams
happening, so...
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You can go watch the trial yourself
and make your own opinions of it.
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It's online, you can go to YouTube
right now and watch it.
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Johnny, we love you!
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Today is a different kind of show
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because we are going to be watching
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the opening statements in
the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard case,
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and going through them
with commentary.
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All right. So I got my spectator
pass and that is awesome.
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OK. So we're up here
on the fifth floor,
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that's where his trial's
taking place.
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Not supposed to be on our phones,
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definitely not supposed
to be recording up here.
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There's no Amber Heard fans,
it's only,
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it's only Johnny Depp fans.
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Nobody's there for Amber.
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What's up, guys?
Welcome to Lawsplaining,
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and I hope you are ready.
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This is one of
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the first high-profile Me Too
defamation cases that's
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making it into a courtroom.
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That is huge news.
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Hey, there we are.
There's the man himself.
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Johnny D. That's a nice tie!
I like that tie.
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All right. We're ready for the jury?
Yes, Ma'am. OK, great.
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So how is it that Court TV
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and other stations are even allowed
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to broadcast this trial?
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Why do we have such crazy
access into
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the Fairfax County courthouse?
In Virginia,
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that decision is solely up to
the judge
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and the judge in this case signed an
order permitting
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a pool camera to broadcast
the trial.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
we're going to go over
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the responsibilities you have as
jurors, OK, in this case.
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Right, so you're not to read, watch
or listen
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to anything about this case on any
social networking sites.
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What you learn about this case
is limited
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to what you learn in the four walls
of this courtroom, OK?
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Are we ready with
opening statements?
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The judge is asking for Johnny
Depp's attorney's opening statement.
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I'm going to cut to a full screen,
but I will chime in
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with some commentary if there are
some breaks.
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But here we go live on
Popcorned Planet, here in Virginia.
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- Good morning.
- Good morning.
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This is a defamation case.
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It's a case about how devastating
words can be when they are false
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and uttered publicly.
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For nearly 30 years,
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Mr Depp built a reputation as one of
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the most talented actors
in Hollywood.
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Today his name is associated with
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a lie uttered by his former wife,
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the defendant, Amber Heard.
Specifically,
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the words that she used,
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published in The Washington Post
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in December 2018.
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Quote - "Two years ago,
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"I became a public figure
representing domestic abuse.
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"I had the rare vantage point
of seeing in real time
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"how institutions protect men
accused of abuse."
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Miss Heard did not use
Mr Depp's name in the op-ed.
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She didn't have to.
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Two years earlier,
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Miss Heard had publicly accused
Johnny Depp of domestic abuse.
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Amber, did Johnny give you that
bruise on your face?
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Johnny Depp, accused of domestic
abuse in his
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sudden split from actress
Amber Heard.
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Did Johnny brutalise you?
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In the wake of the Me Too movement,
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Amber Heard forever changed
Mr Depp's life
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and reputation.
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This trial is about clearing
Mr Depp's name of
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a terrible and false allegation.
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All right. Thank you.
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Mr Rottenborn.
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May I approach?
Yes, sir.
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- Good morning, everyone.
- Good morning.
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Mr Depp's team is gonna
try to turn this case into
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a soap opera.
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Why? I'm not really sure,
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because the evidence isn't pretty
for Mr Depp. It's not.
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You're gonna see who
the real Johnny Depp is.
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Behind the fame,
behind the pirate costume,
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the man who has described himself,
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the violent side of himself,
as the monster.
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The monster.
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You don't see The Washington Post
sitting here as
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the defendant in this courtroom.
He only sued Amber.
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He could have sued
The Washington Post,
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they published the article,
but he didn't.
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And he chose to bring Amber
to court here in Virginia,
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where she has no ties,
has never lived,
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he's never lived,
where they never spent any time.
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Because he wanted
to ruin her life.
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To haunt her.
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To wreck her career.
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It's not about
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the soap opera that Depp will turn
this case into.
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It's not about who you like better.
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It's not even about whether you
agree with
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the words that she wrote.
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It's about her right to speak them.
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Johnny Depp has one of
the most brilliant legal teams
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and if you need proof of that I've
got a word for you - Virginia.
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Why would two celebrities
from California,
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arguing about something written in
The Washington Post,
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file a case in Virginia? In the USA,
defamation laws vary state by state,
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and Virginia has some of the best
defamation laws
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for a matter like this.
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Just so we're on the same page,
this is not a divorce case.
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This is not a domestic
violence case.
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I would argue it's
a PR campaign disguised as
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a defamation case.
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I don't think Johnny's intention is
to win the case here.
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I think his intention is
to clear his name
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and to control his reputation.
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There is no PR campaign that has
a chance of making
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an impact as powerful as
this trial.
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Depp was the one who wanted
the cameras in the courtroom.
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Oh, really? She didn't.
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Your first witness. Your Honour,
we'd like to call
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Laura Amber Heard to the stand.
All right.
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Will you please state your name?
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Yes, it's Amber Laura Heard.
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OK. Now, why are you here?
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I am here because my ex-husband is
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suing me for an op-ed I wrote.
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And how do you feel about that?
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I, erm...
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I struggle to have the words.
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I struggle to find the words
to describe how,
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er, painful this is.
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Erm, this is horrible.
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OK? Yes, Ma'am. Good afternoon,
Mr Depp.
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Good afternoon.
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Can you please tell
the jury why you're here today?
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Erm, yes. Erm...
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..about six years ago,
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Miss Heard made some quite heinous
accusations against me that, er,
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that were not based in any
species of truth.
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The infamous People magazine cover
with Miss Heard with a...
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a dark bruise on her face.
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Nothing of the kind had
ever happened,
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though there were...
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erm, arguments.
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But never...did I myself reach
the point of, erm,
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striking Miss Heard in any way,
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nor have I ever struck,
erm, any woman.
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Please describe for the jury
your experience
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in auditioning for The Rum Diary.
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Well, I auditioned a few times,
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which is common in my work,
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and then I got a call saying that
Johnny wanted
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to meet me in person.
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I thought I would be going
for maybe an audition,
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but it was just a meeting.
I went to his office
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and, and met with him for
a few hours.
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She came to my office,
I took one look at her,
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and I thought,
"Yep, that's the one."
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That's when I first met Miss Heard.
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We talked about books and
music, poetry.
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We like a lot of the same...
We liked a lot of the same stuff.
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I was so surprised that
somebody, you know,
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I'm a no-name actor,
I was 22, I think,
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and he was twice my age
and he's this world-famous actor
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and here we are getting along about
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old blues and I thought it was
unusual and remarkable.
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I left there just feeling like, wow.
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I remember there was a scene where
I was taking a shower
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and then she comes into the room
and she walks,
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opens the shower and we kiss.
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It felt like something that
I shouldn't be feeling.
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There are certain things that you do
in the job to,
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erm, be professional,
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like when you have
to do that sort of scene.
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And you don't, like...
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you don't use your tongue, if you
can, if you can avoid it.
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There are certain things that you do
to just maintain a certain line
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and it just felt like those lines
were blurred.
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I mean, he grabbed my face
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and pulled me into him
and really kissed me.
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Did he use his tongue?
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Yes.
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That day after...
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work, Miss Heard had
come to my trailer.
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He kind of playfully kind of pushed
me down on this like bed/sofa
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that was in his trailer.
Just playful,
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erm, and flirtatious,
and he said, "Yum!"
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Meeting an actress like Amber Heard,
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she's of another era, you know.
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I mean, it's like
walking into a room
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and meeting Veronica Lake
or Bette Davis or,
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you know, Lauren Bacall.
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I called her Slim.
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I called her Slim
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and she called me Steve.
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What do you think you're gonna do?
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I'm gonna get that wallet, Slim.
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You know, Steve,
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I wouldn't put it past you.
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My God, when Humphrey Bogart
and Lauren Bacall,
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that's when they met on that film,
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he was 45 years old,
and she was 19.
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What did you do that for?
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I've been wondering whether
I'd like it.
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What's the decision?
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I don't know yet.
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They stayed together until
Bogart passed away.
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So, I acknowledged the,
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the fact that I was
the old craggy Bogie,
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and she was this...
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beautiful creature.
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Just this stunning creature.
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It was a beautiful place,
a beautiful time.
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And...
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I fell head over heels in love
with this man.
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She seemed to be
the perfect partner.
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Literate, sweet, funny.
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She was, she was wonderful.
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Hello, everybody.
Welcome to Darth News.
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This is gonna be a Day 1 recap.
I was in the courtroom,
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I was sitting there, live in person,
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so I'm just gonna give you
my first-hand account.
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I'm not a legal scholar, I'm not
a lawyer, I do this for fun,
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but I have like a dog in the fight
because I actually give
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a fuck about Johnny Depp...
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and men's rights.
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Amber! Amber! Amber!
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Johnny! Johnny!
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Can you describe your relationship
with Mr Depp?
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Do you remember the first time that
he physically hit you?
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Yes. Please tell the jury about it.
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I will never forget it.
It changed my life.
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I was sitting on the couch,
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and I ask him about
the tattoo he has on his arm.
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I didn't know what it said,
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it just looked like a muddled,
faded tattoo that was hard to read.
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Well, the, erm...
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what... A tattoo which used to say,
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"Winona Forever," who was
a former girlfriend,
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Winona Ryder, and, er,
when we broke up,
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I took off the last two letters
and had it say, "Wino Forever."
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I didn't see that,
I thought he was joking,
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because it didn't look like it said
that at all and I laughed.
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And he slapped me across the face.
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I just stared at him,
kind of laughing still,
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thinking that he was gonna start
laughing too
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to tell me it was a joke.
But he didn't.
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He said, "You think it's so funny.
You think it's funny, bitch.
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"You think you're a funny bitch."
And he slapped me again.
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Hard.
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I was just sitting there
looking at the dirty carpet,
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wondering why I never noticed that
the carpet was so filthy before
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and I just didn't know what else
to do. I didn't know what to say,
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I didn't know how to react,
because, God, did he just hit me?
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Mr Depp, what is your response
to that?
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It...
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It didn't... It didn't happen. I...
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have never struck Miss Heard.
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I wish I could sit here
and say I stood up
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and I walked out of that house
and I drew a line
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and I stood up for myself.
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I was just looking at
the...dirty carpet,
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trying to will myself to get up.
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I was...heartbroken.
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She's acting.
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She's lying.
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Will you please state your name
for the record?
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Whitney Henriquez.
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And you're Amber's sister?
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I am.
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Describe your relationship
with Mr Depp in the early stages.
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We got along really well
at first. Erm,
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he was sober at the time and
Johnny, when he's sober,
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is very bright and beautiful
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and lovely and kind and generous,
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and he was very easy to get to know
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and frankly, we all fell in love
with him...at first.
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But very quickly this
pattern emerged
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as their relationship went on,
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that if Johnny was using
or if he was drinking
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there was almost always a fight.
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Johnny, when sober, was lovely
and magical and very funny.
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Cocaine and any kind of alcohol...
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would bring out a very,
very ugly side of him.
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Erm, very misogynistic and cruel.
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He was almost unrecognisable when he
was drinking
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and using to an excess.
He would just get very angry,
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and he would just say really
horrible things about her.
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He would weave these elaborate
situations in which
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Amber was having affairs
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with every man that she ever
worked with
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and every woman she ever came in
contact with.
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He became very demeaning. You know,
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she has no talent
and when her tits start to sag,
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and her face gets wrinkly nobody
is gonna be interested in her.
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He called her a fucking used-up
trash bag.
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Er, slimy whore, saggy whore.
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You know, "fucking cunt,"
was thrown out a bunch.
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Just horrible things like that.
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Ah!
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Motherfucker! Motherfucker!
What happened?
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Nothing happened this morning,
you know that?
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All I did was say sorry.
Did something happen
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to you...
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..this morning? I don't think so.
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No. That's the thing.
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You wanna see crazy?
I'll give you fucking crazy.
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Here's crazy.
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Oh, you're crazy. You're crazy.
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Have you drunk this whole thing
this morning?
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Oh, you've got this going.
You've got this going?!
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I just started it.
Oh, really? Really?
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So she's trying to record him
without him even knowing that.
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Why did you videotape this, Amber?
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Yeah, good question.
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Cos I knew he...wouldn't remember.
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Objection. Cause for speculation.
Sustained.
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When somebody breaks something in
anger in your presence,
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that is legally an act of abuse.
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And he is, he's... Look at him,
I mean, he's kicking stuff,
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he's slamming stuff,
he's breaking stuff.
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She's like, "Hey, what's going on?"
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And here, I know he wasn't
hitting her,
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but he was doing some very
aggressive things
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and directly in her presence.
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And if she's coming in
and saying like "Well, hey,
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"here's this confrontation
that happened.
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"I was intimidated by it, I felt
this was an act of abuse,"
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then she can give her opinion that,
"I was in an abusive relationship."
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I'm not, you know, trying to defend
her and say it,
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but I'm just saying, you know,
it's, it's a huge problem for him.
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Morning, Mr Depp.
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Morning, Mr Rottenborn.
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Mr Depp, we've talked about
this a little bit,
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but you've testified that abuse can
come in many forms.
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Correct?
Physical being one of them.
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Indeed.
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Verbal. Indeed.
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Psychological abuse. Indeed.
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And you would agree that you were
violent in that clip. Correct?
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Erm, clearly,
I was having a bad time.
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I felt what was most interesting is
that she tried
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to hide it from me
and then that she laughed
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and smiled at the end.
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I thought that was the most
interesting part, myself.
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So, yes, I, I did assault,
erm, a couple of cabinets,
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but I did not touch Miss Heard.
As you can see, I think, you know.
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And you may have been drunk in that
video, correct?
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There's a possibility of that,
yes, sir.
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You, you, you poured yourself a,
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erm, a megapint of red wine.
Correct?
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A megapint?
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Yeah.
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I poured myself
a large glass of wine.
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Right. I thought it necessary.
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Wait for it.
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A megapint?
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I poured myself
a large glass of wine.
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A megapint?
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The lawyer conducting Johnny
Depp's cross-examination said,
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"We saw you pour a, sort of..."
Johnny Depp says, "A megapint."
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The lawyer says, "A megapint
of red wine,
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"which is not everybody's choice
for breakfast, is it?"
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That's Amber.
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All she needs to prove
is that he abused her.
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I say "all" but either
she's making everything up
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or there's been abuse.
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It's not only social media,
but when his SUV pulls up at court,
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no matter what Amber Heard alleges,
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there's a crowd out there who
are just gobsmacked by Johnny Depp.
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Johnny! Johnny!
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Remember, none of us were there.
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With us, it's who do we believe?
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But never, ever forget,
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we were not there.
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Good morning, Mr Depp.
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00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Good morning.
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Mr Depp, I'd like to discuss
April 2016 now. Erm...
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Hmm.
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Well, take a look at this gem in
the historic core of Downtown LA,
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this is the Eastern
Columbia Building,
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one of the most prestigious places
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to live in Downtown Los Angeles.
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Johnny Depp owned five
penthouses here,
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this Art Deco gem at
the corner of Broadway and 9th.
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My birthday was coming up
and we had a dinner planned
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at our penthouse.
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00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:49,320
He told me at some point that day
that he had scheduled
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a business meeting,
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or a money meeting,
I think he said, maybe.
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I was about an hour and 40 minutes
late maybe, something like that.
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00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,880
Mr Depp, when you arrived at
the party,
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how did Miss Heard greet you,
if at all?
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Very cold.
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00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,440
It was a big deal to you that
Mr Depp was late
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to your birthday dinner, wasn't it?
457
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,160
Yeah. Yeah, it did matter to me.
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And you were upset he was late?
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I was. I was hurt.
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00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,520
She squared off at me in
the doorway of our bedroom.
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I, I remember him blocking the door,
blocking me to get out,
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kind of shoving me down
and we had a,
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you know, a verbal argument,
and then that became
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a shoving match.
I tried to shove him back.
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And I said, "Go ahead, hit me."
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Bam.
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Movie scene.
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And I just said,
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"Is that what you wanted?
Would you like another?"
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I wanna hug this man.
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Bam.
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There's the second one.
And I said, "Good.
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"Now you're done."
Grabbed her by the shoulders,
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walked her to the bed,
sat her down and said...
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"Don't follow me, leave me alone.
I'm out, I'm gone."
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00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,480
Johnny wrestled me down on the bed.
477
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520
I remember I got up once or twice
before I ended up on
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the bed and he grabbed me, erm,
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did this thing that he did sometimes
when he would taunt me.
480
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,880
He grabbed me by the...
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erm, the pubic...bone,
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just pushed me down,
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held me down by it and kind of
pulled me into it and,
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erm, was kind of taunting me,
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asking me if I thought I was
so fucking tough.
486
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,200
"You think you're such a fucking
tough guy, huh?
487
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,040
"Are you so tough now? Look who's so
tough. You wanna be a man?"
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00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600
It's insane...
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to hear heinous accusations
of violence,
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sexual violence,
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that she's attributed to me,
that she's accused me of.
492
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But he's saying,
"We're fucking done here.
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00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,280
"We're divorcing, this is over."
And then at 4.30am, on April 22nd,
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which is Amber's birthday,
he left Amber.
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00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040
Yes, he leaves Amber like
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for "good" quote, unquote,
on her birthday.
497
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,080
What a savage.
498
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,400
# Go, go
499
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,760
# Go, Johnny, go, go... #
500
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560
My friends, this is the
patriarchy at work.
501
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,680
Heard's being called a whore,
a gold digger,
502
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480
a crazy bitch, manipulative,
a monster.
503
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,760
He is being given empathy
504
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,840
and forgiveness
for his transgressions
505
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,200
in a way Heard is not.
506
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,520
It's victim blaming at its finest.
507
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960
This is why people don't
report abuse.
508
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,760
So far, who do you believe in this
story here?
509
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,400
I kind of believe both of 'em.
510
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,480
OK. They're on the stand,
they're under oath. Yeah.
511
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,600
They're not allowed to lie
512
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480
and if they caught in a lie,
it's big trouble.
513
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,560
In terms of it being public,
514
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280
well, that's, er, that's showbiz,
isn't it?
515
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
The day after your birthday dinner,
you and your friends went
to Coachella
516
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,000
to celebrate your birthday.
Is that correct?
517
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,160
That is correct.
518
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,360
You featured in that
video, driving.
519
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,560
That's correct.
520
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,040
I had gone to one of my
security team and said,
521
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,360
"She's in Coachella.
522
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,840
"I think it's a good time
to go Downtown
523
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040
"so that I can get some of my
things, you know."
524
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,800
And he said, "I don't think now's
a good time to go."
525
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,040
Ah. And I thought,
"It's the perfect time,
526
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,960
"she's not gonna be home
for two days."
527
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,440
And then he showed me
a photograph on his telephone.
528
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,520
What was the photograph of, Mr Depp?
529
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,040
Poop! Say it. Poop!
530
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840
It was a... It was, err...
531
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,920
It was a photograph of the bed
532
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,560
and on my side of the bed...
533
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200
..erm...
534
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680
was human faecal matter.
535
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,960
He knows how fucking stupid it is.
536
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,960
My initial response to that,
537
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,360
that some human being had actually
538
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,560
dropped a, erm...
539
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,440
..grumpy onto the bed...
540
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,240
..it was so bizarre.
541
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,040
..and so grotesque...
542
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,160
..that I could only laugh.
543
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,160
If you raise your right hand for me.
544
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760
Do you swear firm to tell
the truth under penalty of law?
545
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,680
I do. Right. Thank you sir.
546
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,920
Mr Jenkins,
547
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,560
do you know the plaintiff in this
case, Johnny Depp?
548
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Yes, I do. Were you also going to
Coachella with Miss Heard?
549
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Yes, I was. I was the
transportation for Amber
550
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760
and her friends while she was
at Coachella.
551
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080
And did you have any discussions
with Miss Heard on
552
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,080
the way to Coachella that evening?
553
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520
We had a conversation pertaining to
the surprise she left in
554
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,160
the boss's bed prior to leaving
the apartment.
555
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,640
And what did Miss Heard say about
the defecation in Mr Depp's bed?
556
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200
A horrible practical joke
gone wrong.
557
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,120
Did you commit any kind of prank?
558
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,720
Absolutely not.
559
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,560
First of all, I don't think
that's funny.
560
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Period. That's disgusting.
561
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,760
Er, and she tried
to blame it on the dogs.
562
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,000
What, if any, issues did Boo have
563
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,320
with her bathroom problems,
if you will? Oh, they're
disparaging the dog.
564
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Johnny's dog, at, at the time, Boo,
565
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,000
she had eaten Johnny's weed
when she was
566
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,080
a puppy and had
bowel control issues.
567
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,560
Why didn't you think it could
have been the dogs?
568
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,280
They're teacup Yorkies.
They weigh about 4lbs each.
569
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,080
It was clear that did not
come from a dog.
570
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,440
That's probably one of the first
times that he really realised
571
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,720
the depths of how fucking
insane that she was.
572
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
It was shown on the record
that Depp sent this text.
573
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Quote, "Will you squat in front of
the door of the master bedroom
574
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160
"and leave a giant coil of dookie
so that Amber steps in it
575
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,480
"and thinks that one of the dogs,
primarily Boo has a major problem.
576
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,400
"It'll be funny."
577
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,360
On the 29th of October, 2014,
578
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,000
Miss Heard wrote in a text message
579
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,320
to Kevin Murphy that quote,
"Last night, she..." as in Boo,
580
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,120
"shit on Johnny while he
was sleeping, like all over him,
581
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,920
"not exaggerating."
582
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,640
Again, public record.
583
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Mr Depp, why did you go over to
the penthouses on May 21st, 2016?
584
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440
Miss Heard had requested
585
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,400
that I come over to have a talk.
586
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,840
I went over there
with my security team,
587
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Jerry Judge and Sean Bett,
just in case anything went down.
588
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,640
Good morning, Mr Bett.
589
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Good morning.
590
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,600
Do you see this on your screen,
Mr Bett?
591
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,200
I do.
592
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:40,760
That's you in that black
and white shirt, right?
593
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,960
That's me.
594
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,240
That's Mr Depp in the hat
and that's Mr Judge to his left?
595
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,440
Correct.
596
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,200
This video is when you're entering
the Eastern Columbia Building
597
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:53,320
to take him to Penthouse 3,
correct?
598
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,840
That's correct.
599
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,880
Johnny and I had not seen
each other for
600
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,640
the better part of a month.
601
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,080
I mean, I could tell he
was inebriated
602
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,680
but it was peaceful.
603
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:08,200
And then he starts talking about
the faeces again,
604
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:13,120
and this prank that he said
one of my friends had left
605
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,520
for him in my bed.
606
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,440
Our marriage was falling apart
in front of our eyes,
607
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,920
we hadn't seen each other for
a month,
608
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,640
and I couldn't believe he wanted
to talk about faeces.
609
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000
So, I call this friend,
610
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,720
thinking that we'll take care of it,
and I say...
611
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,880
Tell us who that person is. Io.
612
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,000
She put me on speaker phone.
613
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:41,240
She said, "Johnny thinks that you
and I, together,
614
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,160
"defecated on his pillow."
615
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,600
So I started laughing
616
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,080
and he got very agitated by
the fact that she
617
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,800
and I thought it was funny.
618
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,520
And when I realised that
he was serious,
619
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,400
I was like, "OK, look,
620
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,680
"you know, first of all I wasn't
there that day."
621
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,120
It just made Johnny madder.
He got more upset,
622
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,280
grabbed the phone
623
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,960
and started screaming expletives,
insulting names.
624
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
And I said to Io,
"You can have her now,
625
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,880
"she's yours, she's all yours."
Right?
626
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,280
He tosses the, the phone, you know,
627
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,880
down on the couch
and heads upstairs.
628
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,680
And I pick up the phone,
Io said, "Amber,
629
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,600
"get out of the house,
get out of the house now,
630
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,120
"you're not safe."
631
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,040
Johnny came bolting down the stairs,
632
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,240
grabbed the phone from my hand,
633
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,120
just pulls his arm back with
the phone
634
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,280
and throws it at my face.
635
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,080
Hit me right in my,
it felt like my, my eye.
636
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,520
I was by the refrigerator at this
point, I was 20 feet away.
637
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,000
Where was Miss Heard at that time?
638
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,840
She was still sitting on the couch.
639
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,800
He comes over to me,
erm, as I'm crying,
640
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960
he says, "Oh, yeah, I hit you, huh?
641
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,800
"What if I pull your hair back?
What if I pull your hair back?"
642
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,600
He said to her,
643
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,600
"Oh, you think I hit you?
644
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,760
"You think I fucking hit you?
645
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,480
"What if I peel your fucking
hair back?"
646
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,480
And then I heard the phone drop
again and then I heard her scream.
647
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,040
She's still got Io on the phone,
648
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,760
and that's when
the screaming started.
649
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,480
"Stop hitting me, Johnny,"
she's screaming,
650
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,600
in, in her best, erm...
651
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,880
freaked out, upset voice,
high-pitched.
652
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,960
We could hear this screaming
653
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,600
and shouting from Miss Heard,
so I immediately opened up
654
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,200
the door and Mr Judge
and I ran in there.
655
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,440
The next thing I hear is,
"Boss. Boss." And I realise
656
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,000
that his two security guards had
come into the, to the apartment.
657
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,920
She had this look
of surprise on her face
658
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,840
and then she looked at Mr Depp
and us
659
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,680
and she shouted out loud,
660
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,920
"This is the last time
you do this to me."
661
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
"That's the last time
you'll ever hit me.
662
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,280
"That's the last time you'll ever
do that to me."
663
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,400
And again, I'm, I'm a good
20 feet away, by the fridge.
664
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,480
At which point Mr Depp looked at her
and said,
665
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,520
"What the hell are you
talking about?"
666
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,960
I remember her screaming.
667
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,520
And I hung up the phone,
and I called 911.
668
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,480
Officers, how you doing?
669
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,400
We're just coming in to check.
670
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160
We need to make sure everybody
in here is OK.
671
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Why didn't you want to cooperate
with the police?
672
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,280
Because I, I...
673
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,320
I wanted to protect Johnny.
674
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,400
I didn't want him to be arrested.
675
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,160
She's out back.
676
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,560
All right.
677
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,600
My best friend took pictures of me.
678
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:32,560
This is my face after
the phone incident.
679
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,680
Did you have a clear view
of Miss Heard?
680
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,440
I did. Did you have a clear view
of her face? I did.
681
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Did you observe any injuries on
Miss Heard's face?
682
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:42,880
None.
683
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,840
Johnny Depp's soon-to-be ex-wife
has received
684
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,360
a domestic violence restraining
order against the movie star.
685
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Amber Heard presented this
photograph in court as evidence of
686
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,520
the alleged domestic violence.
687
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Hey, Amber.
688
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,080
Amber, did Johnny give you that
bruise on your face?
689
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680
Did Johnny beat you up?
690
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,480
I saw that she had gone to a court
691
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,040
and there were paparazzi everywhere
and her...
692
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,200
a...erm, a mark on her face.
693
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,520
Have you ever been accused
of physically abusing
694
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,840
a woman before this point?
695
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,000
No.
696
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,440
No.
697
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480
The fact that she's on tape
admitting
698
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,360
to hitting Johnny Depp,
699
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,880
for her to have written this op-ed
700
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,920
for The Washington Post and
701
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,320
essentially propped herself up
702
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,680
as a figurehead in
703
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,720
the Me Too movement so to speak.
Right.
704
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,200
Yeah, it...I think you, you just
feel really betrayed.
705
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,600
It's so triggering to
so many people.
706
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,760
As a victim and a survivor of
domestic violence,
707
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,240
even though it's sexist, you do
wanna kind of back the female.
708
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,000
But so far, I feel like
she was more the aggressor.
709
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520
Look, they can both be wrong.
Amber can be awful,
710
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,840
you can totally believe that,
711
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,280
but we can't use that as
a reason for Johnny Depp
712
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,600
to be absolved of the
clearly awful things
713
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,760
that he has done.
714
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,360
All right. Cross examination.
715
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,160
Cross examination. Here we go.
716
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,840
Good afternoon, Miss Heard.
717
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,080
Good afternoon.
Starting out respectful.
718
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,160
Mr Depp hasn't looked at you once
this entire trial, has he?
719
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Ooh! No, he has not.
720
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,200
Not that I've noticed, no.
721
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:30,320
You know exactly why Mr Depp won't
look back at you, don't you?
722
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,440
I do.
723
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,560
One of the last times you ever saw
Mr Depp was when you met him in
724
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,480
San Francisco in July of 2016.
725
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,120
And this is after you had obtained
726
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,720
the domestic violence restraining
order against him.
727
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,880
That's correct.
728
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Oh, right into audio.
729
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,920
That's you and Mr Depp in
that recording.
730
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,880
That is. And he kept that promise,
hasn't he?
731
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,240
As far as I know,
he cannot look at me.
732
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,320
He cannot.
733
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,240
He won't look at you, right,
Miss Heard? He can't.
734
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,400
Let's please play
Plaintiff's Exhibit 357A,
735
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,800
which is already in evidence,
Your Honour.
736
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,800
That's your voice on that
recording right?
737
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,480
Yes, it is. You didn't think he
would tell the world he was
738
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,920
a victim of domestic violence,
did you?
739
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,600
I thought it would be crazy
for him to do so,
740
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,480
knowing what I know
we lived through.
741
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000
What did you say in response when
Miss Heard said,
742
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,120
"Tell the world, Johnny.
Tell them, Johnny Depp,
743
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,640
"I'm a victim too
of domestic violence"?
744
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,800
I said, "Yes. I am."
745
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,920
Miss Heard, Mr Depp is your victim,
isn't he?
746
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,400
No, Ma'am.
747
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,000
And once he left you,
748
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,640
you continued to abuse him publicly
by calling him
749
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,200
an abuser, didn't you?
750
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:35,480
He is an abuser
751
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040
and you can look either
of us up online
752
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,640
and figure out who's being
abused online.
753
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,040
Amber Turd! Amber Turd!
754
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,880
This is a battle of optics.
755
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,480
This is not so much about
756
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,720
the legal merits but rather what
the public perception is.
757
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:14,120
If you just look at public opinion,
no-one really believes Amber Heard.
758
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,680
I don't buy it for a...
Do you buy this?!
759
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:21,880
The hashtag #JusticeForJohnnyDepp
has more than 4 billion views
760
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,640
on TikTok. It seems the internet
has made up
761
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,840
its mind without this court case
even coming to a close. Wow.
762
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,320
Ah.
763
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Yeah. Amber's fucked.
764
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,840
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