Original subtitles

In the criminal justice system,

detectives and prosecutors face daunting challenges

when money is the motive for murder.

[dramatic sting]

Here we have Kathie, Robert, and Susan Berman,

all in happier times.

Detectives hunt for writer Susan Berman's killer.

Who would want this woman dead?

Maybe she was murdered because of her connection

to the Las Vegas mob.

A link is uncovered

to one of the most notorious murderers

of the 21st century--

Robert Durst.

He comes from this billion-dollar

real-estate family in New York City.

Prosecutors seek justice in a long-awaited new trial.

We wanted to annihilate them from day one.

These men and women dedicate their lives to law and order.

I take great satisfaction

in convicting people who think they got away with it.

These are their true stories.

[dramatic sting]

[dramatic music]

[line beeps]

Okay.

♪ ♪

This is West L.A.--

a very expensive, exclusive neighborhood.

There are million-dollar homes out here.

♪ ♪

I was the senior man at the call.

So I said, all right, we're gonna go in,

do a search of the house.

I go in through the kitchen...

and don't hear anything-- quiet.

This is Christmas Eve.

So I remember thinking, you know what?

The person probably had to run and make it to LAX

and, you know, forgot to close the door all the way.

♪ ♪

I see a purse on the counter.

Then I proceed to my right,

and I see a desk with a computer.

And I think, okay, well, it's not a burglary or a robbery,

because they would have took the computer.

So as I go past the desk, I see legs,

and then I see a lady, dead,

arms spread out, and blood around her head.

♪ ♪

It looked like she'd been dead for about 24 to 36 hours.

Whoever the suspect was, after that amount of time,

they're out of here.

We didn't find any neighbors that knew anything.

The purse has ID, credit cards.

We see the name Susan Berman.

Once the coroner came, they rolled her over.

There was a bullet hole in the back of her head.

That's like a mob-type thing.

We later find out she was a daughter

of a guy that used to own a hotel in Vegas

back in the '40s or '50s.

♪ ♪

Her father was an individual by the name of Davie Berman,

who was the CFO, chief financial officer,

for the Jewish Mafia in Vegas.

Was she killed because she was connected to Vegas?

My cousin Susie always referred

to her father as a mogul.

Davie Berman was one of the pioneers of Las Vegas.

He erected the Flamingo and the Riviera.

And her mother was a showgirl.

Susan Berman was my second cousin,

but we were much more like sisters.

And our family was crazy and zany.

This was our family.

♪ ♪

She was a little girl when her dad died,

and then her mother died, like, a year later.

She had a trust fund set up

that should have taken her through her whole life,

and it would have.

Her trust fund, at the time of her mother's death,

was somewhere between $4 million and $5 million.

But Susie had a character flaw.

She was loyal, and she loved her friends.

And she was an orphan, and she would do anything

to create her own family of friends,

and people took advantage of it.

That money became a trap.

♪ ♪

She was always writing and telling stories.

She started typing on that typewriter

and didn't stop till she died.

Eventually, Susan's pursuit of writing

would lead her to Los Angeles,

where two failed relationships

would give her loving stepchildren.

But a lack of career success

would drain the last of her wealth.

And she started renting the house in Benedict Canyon,

a Beverly Hills-adjacent neighborhood.

At that point, everything was gone.

Everything was gone.

She was sleeping on a mattress on the floor.

So she was living very, very minimally.

On Christmas Day, December 25, 2000,

Deni was notified of Susan's tragic death.

I was just--

I did start bawling, and I got a little crazy,

and I cried, and I just was like, who would shoot Susie?

♪ ♪

I was a detective with the Los Angeles Police Department,

assigned to Robbery-Homicide Division.

The chief decided

Robbery-Homicide was going to handle the murder

of this Mafia princess.

Investigators immediately identified

three early possibilities

as to who could have motive or opportunity

to commit the crime.

Detectives thought this was mob related

because Susan had told some of her friends

that I've got a big story coming up.

This is going to break everything.

Maybe she was ruffling some feathers,

and somebody got hit.

Most of us went for the landlady connection.

We thought they were fighting.

She wasn't paying the rent on time.

We were all helping with the rent.

We were doing the best we could.

Susan had a longtime manager.

I never did understand that relationship,

because she didn't pay him.

I think he was waiting for that one big payday

that would come in.

He was of interest to the police

because he took it upon himself after she was murdered

to go over to the house and just start walking around

and looking around.

And that just doesn't sound right for anybody.

Investigators needed more information

to be able to move any of the three leads

towards a prime suspect.

As the investigation continued,

Coulter was notified of a peculiar development.

Beverly Hills PD received a letter.

It said that there is a cadaver

at 1527 Benedict Canyon.

This was the cadaver letter that went to Beverly Hills PD.

The cadaver letter was postmarked

the day after the murder.

We have the envelope and the note

all chemically treated, hoping to get fingerprints,

to which we don't get anything.

But, okay, could we get DNA off of the flap of the envelope,

or can we get DNA off of the stamp?

We don't get anything.

So we're just striking out on all of that stuff.

But we do have the writing.

You know, we're looking and go,

okay, well, they spelled Beverly wrong.

It's printed like a second grader.

It was like, who the hell uses the word "cadaver"?

That might lead us to the killer.

♪ ♪

Seeking more evidence,

Coulter revisited the crime scene.

There, an unexpected encounter

marked a major turn in the case.

New York State Police were there--

Joe Becerra and a D.A. investigator

from Westchester County.

We learn Susan Berman was an individual

that they wanted to interview

because of her close relationship

with the suspect of another murder investigation

by the name of Robert Durst.

♪ ♪

I came out to L.A. and met

with the Los Angeles Police Robbery-Homicide detectives

and basically share the information we had--

how Robert Durst is a suspect in a decades-old murder case

that we're investigating.

We were looking at Bob for his wife's murder,

and Susan was a potential witness for us.

They were incredibly close.

[airplane engine whirring]

The plan of law enforcement was to go out to Los Angeles

and basically do a surprise interview of Susan Berman

in 2001 at the beginning of the year.

And then I received a phone call from one of her friends

screaming at me, saying,

"Susan's dead. Susan's dead. She's been murdered."

♪ ♪

Susan and Bobby had an almost instant connection.

Susan ends up helping Bob,

and she now has Bob under her control.

That's when we found the check from Robert Durst

to her for 25,000.

Susan Berman was probably our main witness

in our ongoing murder investigation,

and here she is, murdered.

[dramatic music]

[train rattling]

♪ ♪

A year before Susan's death,

Investigator Becerra reopened

the unsolved 20-year-old missing-persons case

of Kathie Durst.

There was a theory that Kathie was murdered

by her husband, Robert Durst, in South Salem back in 1982

and that her body has never been found.

♪ ♪

There was no concrete evidence that she was murdered,

but it really piqued my interest.

I had no idea who the Durst family was.

[upbeat music]

It was once I started looking into Kathie's disappearance

and doing some background

that I realized that Robert Durst

comes from this billion-dollar real-estate family

in New York City.

That's the lake house in South Salem.

This is the Upper West Side penthouse.

Early on in my investigation,

I learned that Susan Berman and Bobby were extremely close.

♪ ♪

Here we have Kathie, Robert, and Susan Berman,

all in happier times.

Susie met Bobby Durst

when she was living at Rieber Hall in UCLA.

Susan and Bobby had an almost instant connection.

She found out that Bobby Durst was wealthy,

and Susan herself came from money.

The one key thing was,

Susan lost her parents at age 12,

and Robert Durst lost his mother at age seven.

So there is an instant bond with them.

[dramatic music]

After she got her master's degree,

Susan decided to follow Bobby to New York.

And he and his new wife, Kathie,

had a penthouse.

Susan moved into their spare room for a few months.

And five years later, Kathie Durst disappeared.

This is Kathie's missing-person flyer.

Robert's story to law enforcement at the time

was that Kathie came back from a party,

and she wanted to drive to the city

because she had classes the next day.

He didn't want her to drive,

and he wanted to stay up at the lakeside house.

He then drove her to the Katonah train station,

and she boarded a train from Katonah to New York City.

And then he called Kathie to check in on her,

and he said that she was safely at home in the city.

♪ ♪

Also, which was interesting, there was a phone call

that a dean at Albert Einstein received

from a woman purporting to be Kathie,

saying she was not going to be coming in for her studies

because she was sick.

And that was on Monday, the 1st of February.

I learned that Kathie was going through this divorce

with Robert.

Bob wasn't accepting any terms of the divorce settlement.

Susan said Robert Durst was very, very cheap.

He kind of just wanted to, like, avoid

taking that deal no matter what.

Investigators theorized that conflict had escalated

between Robert and Kathie, and he had murdered her

to avoid a massive payout.

Becerra expected that if Durst confided in anyone,

it would have been Susan.

The fact that shortly before we're going to interview her,

she's found dead in her home,

I could not help but think it was him.

♪ ♪

While I was out in California,

I was interviewing friends of Susan.

Friends of Susan Berman spoke very highly of Bob,

because, basically, Susan gushed over him,

you know, how he was always there for her,

how tight they were.

Detective Coulter immediately asked me

if I thought that Bobby Durst could be a person of interest.

And I'm like, what are you saying?

They're best friends. What are you talking about?

It never even occurred to me.

♪ ♪

In 1981,

the book "Easy Street" by Susan came out.

"Easy Street" was Susan's version

of growing up in Las Vegas.

It was a best seller.

Bobby Durst came to the "Easy Street" book parties.

She always included Bobby because he was like family.

He was a brother from another mother.

He was very happy for her.

And then it was going to be turned into a movie.

She moved to Los Angeles,

but Susan became kind of controlling

on how the movie would be, and the deal was killed.

And she was hitting up people for money.

She was behind in her rent, like, 13 months.

It was unbelievable.

When we looked at her bank records,

the figure that stuck out was a $25,000 deposit.

That's when we found the check

from Robert Durst to her for 25,000...

deposited into her account in November of 2000.

Eventually there'd been two checks, totaling 50,000.

For Bobby, that was quite generous--

helping pay the rent and buy groceries and whatnot.

He didn't want Susie to starve.

Although the timing of Susan's death

seemed to coincide with the Durst investigation,

by all accounts, he was a great friend to her

and was supporting her financially.

Investigators revisited their other leads--

a possible Mob hit, Susan's landlady,

and Susan's manager.

Old-time mobsters--

most of those guys are dead, or they're in their 80s,

and they were immediately saying

there would be no reason to kill Davie Berman's daughter.

It wasn't like she was onto something.

She was researching to write a book

about the women behind the big players in Vegas.

That's not something that's going to get you killed.

There was nothing of value

from the Mafia background.

Detectives obtained a warrant

for the landlady's home, and a search yielded a gun.

But it did not match the 9-millimeter weapon

that had killed Susan Berman.

And she was in her late 70s, early 80s.

This lady has nothing to do with it.

Meanwhile, Susan's manager

emerged at the top of a short list of leads.

Investigators brought him in for an interview.

We gave him a polygraph.

It was inconclusive.

We did handwriting,

which although not exactly like the cadaver note,

there were similarities.

So you can't strike him off.

As the other leads lost traction or were eliminated,

investigators turn their attention

back to Robert Durst.

We had tried to set up interviews with Robert.

And then one day, we get a letter from his attorney

about not contacting him.

He doesn't want to be interviewed.

He was in San Francisco when she was killed.

They have an alibi for Durst

that he was not in Los Angeles at the time.

Los Angeles Police had their work cut out for them.

They were at a loss.

Whenever time permitted, we'd compare notes

to see if we could help each other out.

We were getting a little frustrated

because our case was still a cold case.

Susan's was starting to get cold.

And then Galveston happens.

[dramatic sting]

[dramatic music]

I get a call saying, did you hear

that they just arrested Robert Durst

in Galveston, Texas, for murdering a neighbor?

And I'm like, are you kidding me?

What the hell is he doing in Galveston, Texas?

And a bunch of us flew right down to Galveston.

We met with detectives there,

and they told us that Robert Durst is living

in a $400-a-month--

almost like a rooming house,

dressed as a mute woman named Dorothy Ciner.

He supposedly killed

and chopped up his neighbor, Morris Black...

and threw him in Galveston Bay.

And they basically recovered

this person's whole body except the head.

♪ ♪

They had him basically dead to rights

with the forensic evidence at his apartment,

Morris's apartment, the bow saw, the gun,

the receipts, the body bag, you know, everything.

Galveston is the city where you go to hide,

where you don't want to be found.

We learned that Morris Black happened to live

across the hall from Bob in this rooming house.

The two of them became friendly,

and Bob basically revealed himself to Morris.

♪ ♪

If he could do this

to this old guy here in Galveston,

he could kill Susan Berman.

♪ ♪

One of the weapons they recovered down in Galveston

was a 9-millimeter, which was our casing.

So we really started delving into Robert Durst.

♪ ♪

Detective Coulter knew the gun recovered in Galveston

could be a vital piece of evidence in the Berman case.

So he coordinated a test fire with Galveston PD.

We have it test-fired...

and our people say,

nope, not your weapon.

The casing and bullets test negative.

Now we're back to square one.

When she was killed, he was in San Francisco.

So we're thinking,

well, okay, he gets his flight from San Francisco.

I verified that he was on that flight,

and I says, okay, good, I got him in California

but not in L.A.

And if you've ever driven L.A. to San Francisco,

it's about a six-, seven-hour drive.

So there would have been plenty of time

for him to be there the night before, kill her.

So I did search warrants on the phone numbers.

The cell phone that he had the days surrounding

before and after Susan's death,

it's like, there's no activity.

It's like the phone has been turned off.

♪ ♪

That's just another little red flag that goes up on the guy.

♪ ♪

Detective Coulter shifted focus to the cadaver note

that had been anonymously sent

to the Beverly Hills Police Department.

Our handwriting expert and I went down to Galveston

so that I could compare the cadaver note

to Robert Durst's handwriting.

♪ ♪

This stuff, obviously, is from the cadaver letter.

So he is told to write that over and over and over again.

Coulter presented the writing samples

from Durst and Susan's former manager

to experts at the California Department of Justice

to determine a possible match to the cadaver note.

Here you got these samples from this individual,

these samples from this individual,

the manager.

I said, here is my cadaver note.

You tell me who it is.

And they said, it's most likely Durst.

♪ ♪

But it wasn't enough to arrest and convict

for the murder of Susan Berman.

I'm confident it's him,

but I can't quite get over that hump to prove it yet.

We were still working the Kathie Durst case,

but we were also waiting on the Galveston case

to see how that played out.

♪ ♪

[indistinct chatter]

I really thought the prosecution

had a very good case.

The physical evidence was overwhelming.

If your last name is Durst,

you can hire the best defense attorney in Texas,

and that was Dick DeGuerin.

And Dick DeGuerin had an incredible reputation.

He basically claims that

he went into his room, and Morris is there

with his gun, and they started fighting for the gun,

and it was a struggle, and the gun accidentally went off,

shooting Morris.

We know that what the state is going to say

is dismembering the body

is evidence of guilt.

It could also indicate fear.

It could indicate panic.

Whatever he did after Morris Black was dead

cannot change the way Morris Black died.

♪ ♪

Will the defendant please rise?

"For the verdict of the jury as such,

"we, the jury, find the defendant, Robert Durst,

not guilty."

[camera shutters clicking]

My jaw dropped. I just--I couldn't believe it.

♪ ♪

I said, you've got to be kidding me.

Well, if they'd found the head,

I'm guessing there would have been

a bullet in the back of it. [clicks tongue]

So that doesn't sound like self-defense to me.

When Bob got acquitted in the death of Morris Black,

things kind of went cold for a while.

The Durst family, I'm sure they were embarrassed

by Robert's antics.

They paid him what was due to him

just to wash their hands of everything Robert Durst.

There was frustration on Kathie's family and friends,

'cause I spoke regularly with them, and they're like,

he's getting away with it again.

It's happening again.

His money, his power, his privilege is getting him off.

Durst reportedly spent over $1.8 million

on his defense.

He did it, and he got away with it.

How much money has this ass---- got?

[dramatic sting]

[dramatic music]

My name is John Lewin.

I was the lead prosecutor on the case

of People vs. Robert Durst--

the murder of Susan Berman.

But we have to back up,

and this all ties together.

After Durst's acquittal in Galveston,

his story gained notoriety.

In 2010, Andrew Jarecki and Marc Smerling

introduced a film called "All Good Things,"

which was a fictionalized version

of the Robert Durst story.

Lily Rabe portrayed Susie's character.

And the film basically portrays

Bob Durst as responsible for the murder of three people.

It is not a flattering portrayal.

Most people who would see a movie like that,

that is allegedly depicting their life,

the next call would be to their lawyer,

saying, what can we do to sue these people?

How can we stop them?

If anything happens to me,

don't let them get away with it.

Bob's response was different.

♪ ♪

Robert got in touch

with Andrew Jarecki and Marc Smerling,

who did the movie.

He liked the way he was portrayed

and basically wanted to give his side of the story.

Andrew ends up taking that opportunity,

and he ran with it.

He, in essence, started reinvestigating

the entire Kathie/Susan/Morris story.

♪ ♪

Marc had reached out to Sareb Kaufman,

Susan Berman's stepson.

Sareb had been going through all of Susan's possessions

and had come across a document

that we call "the Sareb note."

It was an envelope with a letter inside

from Bob Durst

from March 3rd of 1999.

And when you look at the envelope

with the cadaver note,

not only is the handwriting of her address identical,

but in both the cadaver note and the Sareb note,

Beverly is spelled wrong.

So if you see them both together, you're going,

oh, okay, this is clearly written by the same person.

Now there's new evidence.

♪ ♪

I ended up being made aware of the Sareb note

by Andrew and Marc.

I had the cadaver note, and I also saw the footage

where Durst was confronted,

and it was extremely compelling.

So you wrote one of these,

but you didn't write the other one?

I wrote this one, but I did not write the cadaver one.

And can you tell me which one you didn't write?

No.

♪ ♪

The Sareb note and advanced footage from "The Jinx"

was finally enough evidence

for the Los Angeles District Attorney

to press charges against Robert Durst

for the murder of Susan Berman.

My goal was to try and file the case

prior to "The Jinx" coming out,

because my concern was that once "The Jinx" came out,

Bob was going to take off for Cuba and we'd never get him.

I don't know if Durst is a narcissist or what he is,

but he had to stick around and watch that last episode.

He could have long been out of the country.

♪ ♪

When "The Jinx" started,

we were trying to monitor where Bob was.

The FBI is up on him, and we knew--

I had the advantage that I knew what was coming.

So I knew that episode five was where Bob

was confronted with the Sareb note.

When episode five aired, he immediately ends up

leaving his place in Houston very suddenly,

taking off for parts unknown.

That turned out to be New Orleans.

FBI agents picked up the eccentric millionaire

at the JW Marriott Hotel in downtown New Orleans.

I was called Saturday, March 14th,

and I was told he's been arrested.

Robert Durst's arrest this weekend

was the result of a lengthy investigation

by multiple agencies, including the FBI

and police in New York and Los Angeles.

And we're going to file the case.

Bob Durst didn't kill Susan Berman.

He's ready to end all the rumor and speculation

and have a trial.

My understanding was, his net worth

when he went to trial for Susan's death

was about 100 million.

His lawyers were paid, it's been reported,

somewhere between $10 million and $12 million for the case.

When you get a case like Durst,

there's nobody better to have on it than John Lewin.

If it was one of my family members,

I would want John Lewin on it.

I think Robert Durst thinks he's smarter than anybody,

but he never dealt with John Lewin before.

[dramatic sting]

[dramatic music]

They charged Durst with special circumstance murder,

meaning he killed a witness,

who was Susan Berman, who was going to be a witness

in my murder case in New York.

Lewin's team quickly recorded pretrial interviews

in a courtroom to protect from witness tampering.

So let's start with, as important witnesses,

Miriam Barnes.

Miriam Barnes is a woman who lived in the same area,

a very nice part of Manhattan,

as Susan Berman did.

Susan had bought a little place there,

and Miriam lived there, and they were friends.

When Kathie disappeared, Susan had come to Miriam.

♪ ♪

Linda Obst was also extremely important.

Linda was a producer in Hollywood.

I had known Susan Berman for many, many years,

as I was the producer

of her book called "Easy Street."

I was there for development

and to help get the movie sold.

She once told me that she called

Albert Einstein Medical Center and said she was Kathie.

[car horns honking]

Originally the NYPD

believed that Kathie had made that call

because it was reported

that Kathie had called the dean.

When we went back in 2013

and interviewed the dean, Al Cooperman,

it took us five minutes and basically two questions.

Dr. Cooperman, what made you think it was Kathie?

The person said it was Kathie.

Did you know what her voice sounded like?

No.

Other than the fact that the person said they were Kathie,

do you have any evidence, any information

that, in fact, it was Kathie on the phone?

No.

So Susan basically called, pretending to be Kathie

so that it would make it seem as if Kathie was alive,

had made it back to New York City,

when, in fact, she had been killed

in Westchester County the night before.

♪ ♪

Susan ends up helping Bob,

and she now has Bob under her control.

Susan made the mistake of telling Bob

that the police contacted her

and they were on their way to interview her.

I think she was trying to extort him a little bit

or get more money prior to her death.

I think that Bob understood, as did Susan's friends,

that Susan, with her mouth,

if she would have talked to investigators,

she would have ended up spilling the beans,

whether she wanted to or not.

Please be seated in the witness stand.

And then we get to Nick Chavin.

Susan said to me specifically

that Bob killed Kathie.

Now, the three of them-- Bob, Susan, and Nick--

were extremely close.

And Nick originally did not believe Susan.

Sometime in late 2014,

did you have a dinner

with Robert Durst?

Yes.

Bob said he wanted to talk to me about Susan.

The dinner concluded.

This is hard. We walked out the door.

And on the sidewalk...

I said, you wanted to talk about Susan?

And Bob said...

"I had to.

It was her or me. I had no choice."

♪ ♪

John Lewin-- he didn't promise anything.

He said, I'm going to do everything in my power.

I said, please do it.

Just do whatever you have to do.

I was very scared because the one thing I knew--

he had money and privilege.

Things could be bought.

♪ ♪

Justice requires that trials be conducted

in open court.

The plan that we had as a team

was that we were going to have a presentation

that laid out everything we had.

♪ ♪

We wanted to annihilate them from day one.

It all goes back

to his relationship with Kathie Durst.

Bob killed Kathie.

Whether it was murder or manslaughter,

he killed Kathie.

My personal opinion is, I feel that Bob

wasn't accepting any terms of the divorce settlement.

They got in a heated argument.

How he did it, I can't say 100%.

But he did end her life.

♪ ♪

Susan helped him cover it up by calling Albert Einstein.

Eventually Susan is going to talk to the police.

She's got to go. He kills her.

He thinks he's about to get arrested and charged

at any time for Kathie's death, so he's hiding in Galveston.

♪ ♪

Nobody can connect Bob Durst

to where he is staying in Galveston.

The one person who can is Morris Black.

Morris Black now knows who he is

and is putting pressure on Bob

to end up getting a place together.

He wants Bob to contribute a large amount of money

to a local charity down there.

And eventually Morris has to go,

and Bob gets rid of him.

So everything was tied together.

We started testimony on March 11th of 2020,

and I was very concerned about COVID.

Los Angeles courts adjourned two days later

and delayed the trial of Robert Durst

for 14 months.

We picked up right where we left off.

Durst is not jinxed.

He is a three-time killer

who has managed to escape accountability.

A week and a half before we start trial,

the defense stipulated Bob wrote the cadaver note.

♪ ♪

What that meant was, Bob is saying,

I found the body,

because he couldn't have written the cadaver note

if he didn't find the body.

The only person who can explain that is Bob Durst.

That meant Bob Durst has to testify.

On August 9, 2021,

Robert Durst took the stand to testify

and attempt to build sympathy with the jury.

[dramatic sting]

[dramatic music]

The one thing I was concerned about

was that jurors would feel sorry for him

because he had lost his mother.

And that was real.

That's really, really sad. I mean, it's horrible.

So one of the things that really, I thought,

was powerful and direct

was Bob talking about how when he was little,

it was Daddy and Dougie and Mommy and Bobby.

And so, when his mother died, he basically lost his ally.

Well, as soon as I hear it, though,

I realize the Frisbee wasn't invented in 1950

and that Uno wasn't invented in 1950.

So he's----ing lying

literally about this compelling memory

to these jurors.

The Frisbee was not invented until 1957.

Uno was not invented until 1971.

Mr. Durst, can you explain

why it was that you testified

to what you've now said was a vivid memory?

You have a list of things you will lie about on this trial,

and then the rest of the things, you'll be truthful?

Okay.

I did not expect that Bob would admit

that literally during his testimony in this very case,

he had lied.

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So, on September 17, 2021,

the jurors came back with their verdict.

The clerk will please read the verdict.

"The people of the State of California vs. Robert Durst.

"We, the jury, find the defendant, Robert Durst,

"guilty of the crime of first-degree murder

of Susan Berman."

Bob was convicted of everything.

We won on everything. It was a clean sweep.

The sentence is life without the possibility of parole.

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And look at what it cost him.

Look at what it cost Bobby by not taking that deal

to divorce Kathie Durst.

Anybody else with this kind of resources

would have been living and laughing

and not been a pathetic loser in an orange jumpsuit

'cause they did something really stupid and unnecessary,

I'll tell you that.

This man robbed me and so many people

of the most magnanimous human being,

one of the most incredible characters

that ever walked the Earth.

I said, if there's any reason-- if she's smiling at all,

she's smiling today.

We're all set to have him brought to New York

and file the murder charge against him.

And then I got that phone call.

In January of 2022,

Bob Durst died while in the custody

of Department of Corrections.

He didn't die from COVID.

He had survived COVID.

He had lots of other health issues.

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I was surprised he didn't die before that, actually.

But I was glad that he got to hear his fate

and that he knew there was nowhere to go

and that he definitely wasn't getting out alive.

He died a convicted murderer.

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The biggest disappointment I have in this case

in the 22 years I've been working on it was,

I wasn't able to give Kathie's family

the closure they were looking for,

to let 'em know where she was.

And that's all I wanted out of that man,

but he insisted on taking that to the grave with him.

Her body has never been found.

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I take great satisfaction, particularly in cold cases,

in convicting people who think they got away with it...

particularly when they're

as arrogant as someone like Bob Durst was.

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Bob was held accountable for all three of those deaths.

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