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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:06,291 --> 00:01:09,749 Anyone riding with Robert? 2 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:11,666 Yeah, uh... Got him walking away from me. 3 00:01:11,667 --> 00:01:13,792 He's got a knife in his hand. 4 00:01:16,291 --> 00:01:19,416 I had never met a police officer that 5 00:01:19,417 --> 00:01:21,749 woke up in the morning with the intentions of 6 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:24,834 "I'm gonna go out and have to shoot somebody today." 7 00:01:29,417 --> 00:01:31,666 Male caught breaking into 8 00:01:31,667 --> 00:01:33,541 a church and stealing radios. 9 00:01:33,542 --> 00:01:35,499 Armed with knife. 10 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,290 Chicago Police Department averages 11 00:01:38,291 --> 00:01:40,249 maybe 30 police shootings a year. 12 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:42,290 Do you know the vehicle? 13 00:01:42,291 --> 00:01:44,457 Zero dark thirty some time. 14 00:01:44,458 --> 00:01:47,416 - The wee hours of the morning. - Anybody close yet? 15 00:01:47,417 --> 00:01:49,457 You get the call, get up and get dressed, 16 00:01:49,458 --> 00:01:53,457 drive from here to 48th and Pulaski. 17 00:01:53,458 --> 00:01:55,082 Let's shut down all of Pulaski. 18 00:01:55,083 --> 00:01:57,624 Let's shut down all traffic. 19 00:01:57,625 --> 00:02:00,749 I'm a God-fearing person. I would say... prayer 20 00:02:00,750 --> 00:02:02,874 for the offender, 21 00:02:02,875 --> 00:02:05,834 but I'd also pray for the officer. 22 00:02:09,250 --> 00:02:11,000 - Five. - Fired by police! 23 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:20,999 16 shots! 16 shots! 16 shots! 16 shots! 24 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,375 16 shots! 25 00:02:36,667 --> 00:02:40,500 10-33. In the area. Be right over there. 26 00:02:50,875 --> 00:02:54,332 Sure, Pat Camden, sp... spokesperson, 27 00:02:54,333 --> 00:02:56,332 Fraternal Order of Police, Chicago, Lodge Seven. 28 00:02:56,333 --> 00:02:59,165 Uh, there was a call of a individual 29 00:02:59,166 --> 00:03:00,708 trying to break into some vehicles. 30 00:03:00,709 --> 00:03:03,582 Officers responded and there was an individual with a knife 31 00:03:03,583 --> 00:03:06,374 I don't know what his mental state was, 32 00:03:06,375 --> 00:03:08,207 but he wasn't dropping the knife and he was 33 00:03:08,208 --> 00:03:09,749 coming at the officer. 34 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:12,582 And the officers are responding to somebody with a knife 35 00:03:12,583 --> 00:03:14,874 in a... a crazed condition, 36 00:03:14,875 --> 00:03:17,082 you obviously aren't going to sit down and have 37 00:03:17,083 --> 00:03:21,165 a cup of coffee with him. He is a very serious threat 38 00:03:21,166 --> 00:03:24,040 to the officers and he leaves them 39 00:03:24,041 --> 00:03:28,375 no choice at that point but to defend themselves. 40 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:31,749 No, no. Just the... Just the offender. 41 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:32,874 Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. 42 00:03:32,875 --> 00:03:33,917 You're welcome, buddy. 43 00:03:37,417 --> 00:03:40,375 I always wanted to be the police. 44 00:03:41,583 --> 00:03:45,416 As a young kid, I wanted to be part of that thin blue line 45 00:03:45,417 --> 00:03:49,499 that separates normal life from chaos. 46 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:54,457 I still feel I'm part of the Chicago Police Department. 47 00:03:54,458 --> 00:03:56,332 Even though I'm retired, 48 00:03:56,333 --> 00:04:01,833 that loyalty that I have for the police department I-is... 49 00:04:01,834 --> 00:04:03,582 is... is very, very strong. 50 00:04:03,583 --> 00:04:06,749 I'll take it to my grave with me. 51 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:10,916 I was the spokesperson for the Fraternal Order of Police, 52 00:04:10,917 --> 00:04:12,958 for FOP. 53 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:17,458 I've covered well over 500 police-involved shootings. 54 00:04:19,333 --> 00:04:21,249 Pat, I understand we had a police shooting here tonight. 55 00:04:21,250 --> 00:04:22,624 Can you tell me what happened? 56 00:04:22,625 --> 00:04:26,708 Officers responded to a call of a suspicious person. 57 00:04:26,709 --> 00:04:28,582 The individual raised his gun, 58 00:04:28,583 --> 00:04:30,624 putting the officer into fear of his life. 59 00:04:30,625 --> 00:04:33,207 The offender raised a gun, putting both officers 60 00:04:33,208 --> 00:04:35,290 in fear of their life. In defense of his 61 00:04:35,291 --> 00:04:37,999 partner's life and his life, 62 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,040 the police had to shoot the offenders. 63 00:04:41,041 --> 00:04:42,416 I'm not even gonna get into that. 64 00:04:42,417 --> 00:04:44,625 You don't have any comment on that at all? 65 00:04:46,917 --> 00:04:50,124 A police department has to be first 66 00:04:50,125 --> 00:04:52,582 in the media. 67 00:04:52,583 --> 00:04:57,541 It is incumbent that they are the ones that are putting out 68 00:04:57,542 --> 00:04:59,250 the information. 69 00:05:00,417 --> 00:05:02,499 Breaking news from Chicago's Southwest side. 70 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:05,290 A 17-year-old boy is shot and killed by police. 71 00:05:05,291 --> 00:05:07,874 Chicago police say they had no choice 72 00:05:07,875 --> 00:05:10,082 but to shoot a 17-year-old boy 73 00:05:10,083 --> 00:05:11,666 who threatened them with a knife. 74 00:05:11,667 --> 00:05:13,499 The teen suffered a gunshot wound to the chest. 75 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,207 He was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in critical condition 76 00:05:16,208 --> 00:05:18,833 and that is where he died. Fraternal Order of Police 77 00:05:18,834 --> 00:05:22,332 spokesman Pat Camden says he lunged at one of them with the 78 00:05:22,333 --> 00:05:25,833 knife, and as soon as that happened, they shot him. 79 00:05:25,834 --> 00:05:27,958 Police say this was a clear-cut case 80 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:30,166 of self-defense. 81 00:05:39,041 --> 00:05:42,958 I think it's a level of people being desensitized 82 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:44,875 from the violence. 83 00:05:48,709 --> 00:05:51,332 That's what we've been seeing for so many years. 84 00:05:51,333 --> 00:05:53,499 Like, why protest? Nothing's gonna change. 85 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:56,709 Why go after this? Nothing's gonna change. 86 00:05:58,458 --> 00:06:00,666 The morning after, from my understanding, it was just 87 00:06:00,667 --> 00:06:03,624 a black man that lunged at the Chicago police 88 00:06:03,625 --> 00:06:05,542 and was shot and killed. 89 00:06:08,125 --> 00:06:11,709 I didn't even know his name was Laquan. 90 00:06:13,208 --> 00:06:16,499 Laquan was... 91 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:21,750 a young black child from the West side of Chicago... 92 00:06:22,667 --> 00:06:26,916 who ended up being murdered on the South side of Chicago. 93 00:06:26,917 --> 00:06:29,582 I come from the same background Laquan came from. 94 00:06:29,583 --> 00:06:31,374 I was a ward of the state, 95 00:06:31,375 --> 00:06:33,916 I was birthed by a 15-year-old mother, 96 00:06:33,917 --> 00:06:37,040 I was in and out the ID home as a juvenile. 97 00:06:37,041 --> 00:06:39,417 He had a troubled life. 98 00:06:41,542 --> 00:06:44,332 Never in a million years I would've thought 99 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:47,374 it would've had this type of effect 100 00:06:47,375 --> 00:06:50,583 on the city or on the country. 101 00:06:51,250 --> 00:06:52,750 Never. 102 00:07:04,667 --> 00:07:08,332 I'm sitting in my office... 103 00:07:08,333 --> 00:07:12,457 and my niece... 104 00:07:12,458 --> 00:07:14,792 knocks on this church door. 105 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:18,166 And she's crying. 106 00:07:19,208 --> 00:07:22,124 She says to me, "They killed my baby 107 00:07:22,125 --> 00:07:24,290 and it ain't right." 108 00:07:24,291 --> 00:07:26,207 My heart, you know, drops, of course, 109 00:07:26,208 --> 00:07:30,249 'cause, you know, I know who this kid is. 110 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:33,041 His name was Laquan McDonald. 111 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:43,165 Laquan was my great nephew. 112 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:46,624 He was a happy-go-lucky kid. 113 00:07:46,625 --> 00:07:49,124 Kind of kid that wanted to make everybody laugh. 114 00:07:49,125 --> 00:07:50,624 A jokester. 115 00:07:50,625 --> 00:07:53,332 I didn't spend a lot of time with him, 116 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:57,499 but my heart is broke because this mother's heart is broke, 117 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:00,583 and I just knew that there was something wrong. 118 00:08:02,083 --> 00:08:03,874 But at this point, in my mind, 119 00:08:03,875 --> 00:08:06,667 I'm thinking there ain't nothing that we can do. 120 00:08:09,166 --> 00:08:14,709 Finally, the coroner released the body to the funeral home. 121 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,583 After that, I get a phone call on my cell. 122 00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:22,874 What Mr. Camden had said on television, 123 00:08:22,875 --> 00:08:25,124 that ain't what happened. 124 00:08:25,125 --> 00:08:27,541 This boy been shot 125 00:08:27,542 --> 00:08:30,709 and it's a lot of bullet holes in him. 126 00:08:32,166 --> 00:08:33,499 I tell the funeral home, 127 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:36,290 "When you get the body, take pictures." 128 00:08:36,291 --> 00:08:39,041 So they took the pictures of the body. 129 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:43,249 The body tells a totally different story 130 00:08:43,250 --> 00:08:47,040 than what the local news had put out there: 131 00:08:47,041 --> 00:08:51,458 That he's shot one time in the chest. 132 00:08:54,709 --> 00:08:58,374 The family wanted privacy from the media 133 00:08:58,375 --> 00:09:01,250 and justice for Laquan. 134 00:09:13,917 --> 00:09:15,916 The initial meeting was more about. 135 00:09:15,917 --> 00:09:18,332 "Well, what... what happened here? Is there a case?" 136 00:09:18,333 --> 00:09:20,582 'Cause you never really know. 137 00:09:20,583 --> 00:09:23,082 Someone from the funeral home, 138 00:09:23,083 --> 00:09:25,332 at their request, took a bunch of photographs, 139 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:26,958 and they really weren't too clear. 140 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:31,124 But they knew he was shot multiple times. 141 00:09:31,125 --> 00:09:32,958 We agreed to take it to look into it 142 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:35,332 to see what really happened. 143 00:09:35,333 --> 00:09:37,749 We sent out probate subpoenas 144 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:40,750 and then we received police reports. 145 00:09:41,792 --> 00:09:43,916 So we have five units on the scene, 146 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:47,374 and there was only one officer that discharged his weapon. 147 00:09:47,375 --> 00:09:50,000 Nobody else fired a shot. 148 00:09:50,750 --> 00:09:52,791 And we also saw that there were three eye witnesses 149 00:09:52,792 --> 00:09:56,040 that were taken from the Burger King drive-thru 150 00:09:56,041 --> 00:09:57,749 to the police station. 151 00:09:57,750 --> 00:10:00,499 And according to the police reports, 152 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:02,958 they're questioned for hours. 153 00:10:02,959 --> 00:10:04,749 If this was a regular murder case, 154 00:10:04,750 --> 00:10:07,708 you would have eye witness statements 155 00:10:07,709 --> 00:10:12,959 that were either videotaped or written-out by a prosecutor. 156 00:10:15,709 --> 00:10:18,040 And instead, you had these little summaries that said, 157 00:10:18,041 --> 00:10:20,582 "Oh, I saw nothing." 158 00:10:20,583 --> 00:10:23,542 We thought, "This is very odd." 159 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:29,416 Initially, we thought the shooting happened 160 00:10:29,417 --> 00:10:31,374 in the drive-thru of the Burger King. 161 00:10:31,375 --> 00:10:34,082 So we sent this wave of probate subpoenas 162 00:10:34,083 --> 00:10:36,165 to the Burger King. 163 00:10:36,166 --> 00:10:39,749 And the Burger King people were very receptive. 164 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:43,457 They said, "Come on down, we'll show you what we have." 165 00:10:43,458 --> 00:10:44,999 But what was really odd 166 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,582 and what the Burger King people were upset about 167 00:10:47,583 --> 00:10:50,999 was the way the police came to their restaurant 168 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,834 and just demanded access to their video equipment. 169 00:10:56,333 --> 00:11:00,000 They didn't have a subpoena, they didn't have a warrant. 170 00:11:01,041 --> 00:11:04,874 And all I know for sure is that now there's 86 minutes 171 00:11:04,875 --> 00:11:07,166 that are missing. 172 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:15,833 And so that gets your radar up. 173 00:11:15,834 --> 00:11:18,040 But when you look at the police reports 174 00:11:18,041 --> 00:11:20,582 that were signed-off on, again, by lieutenants 175 00:11:20,583 --> 00:11:23,165 and sergeants and detectives, it's a justified shooting. 176 00:11:23,166 --> 00:11:25,125 It's justified. 177 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:42,249 I remember reading a story of a young man 178 00:11:42,250 --> 00:11:46,040 shot and killed on the Southwest side of Chicago. 179 00:11:46,041 --> 00:11:50,040 I, as a Chicagoan, somebody who... 180 00:11:50,041 --> 00:11:53,082 writes about these issues, is immersed in them, 181 00:11:53,083 --> 00:11:56,834 I did what everybody does: I turned the page. 182 00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:08,082 About a week after the incident, 183 00:12:08,083 --> 00:12:10,916 a close colleague of mine received a call 184 00:12:10,917 --> 00:12:15,290 from somebody close to the investigation who said, 185 00:12:15,291 --> 00:12:19,874 "There is video, police dash cam video," 186 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:23,416 that completely contradicts the official story 187 00:12:23,417 --> 00:12:25,083 of what happened. 188 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:27,916 "It's horrific." 189 00:12:27,917 --> 00:12:29,874 The implication of the call was. 190 00:12:29,875 --> 00:12:33,416 "This is gonna be deep-sixed, the video. 191 00:12:33,417 --> 00:12:35,791 Made disappear." 192 00:12:35,792 --> 00:12:38,792 So I began to investigate. 193 00:12:41,917 --> 00:12:44,958 But these investigations are long-shots. 194 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:46,708 They're huge long-shots, 195 00:12:46,709 --> 00:12:49,916 and you can just never get to the point where 196 00:12:49,917 --> 00:12:52,791 you have sufficient evidence to 197 00:12:52,792 --> 00:12:55,583 bring the story to the public. 198 00:13:09,291 --> 00:13:11,749 There's probably never been a more important time 199 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:14,999 in policing than right now. 200 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,958 Some people would say that, you know, 201 00:13:16,959 --> 00:13:19,165 now is not the time to be a police officer. 202 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:21,999 I say exactly the opposite. 203 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,791 It's probably the most fulfilling thing 204 00:13:23,792 --> 00:13:26,332 that you can do with your life. 205 00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:29,165 I've been a police officer for 35 years. 206 00:13:29,166 --> 00:13:31,708 And my dad was a police officer, so I have a... 207 00:13:31,709 --> 00:13:36,040 A little context going back to 1947 in New York City. 208 00:13:36,041 --> 00:13:38,625 Things have changed dramatically. 209 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:42,207 Police departments are not what they were years ago. 210 00:13:42,208 --> 00:13:45,750 Police officers are not what they were years ago. 211 00:13:48,166 --> 00:13:51,416 I guess it was the day after the shooting occurred. 212 00:13:51,417 --> 00:13:54,833 I had an in-depth, uh, briefing on the case. 213 00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:56,750 I saw the video. 214 00:13:57,041 --> 00:13:59,207 I didn't say it was murder. 215 00:13:59,208 --> 00:14:02,874 Because I don't know what officer Van Dyke saw, 216 00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:05,541 I don't know what was in his mind. 217 00:14:05,542 --> 00:14:09,583 Those were questions that I couldn't answer at the time. 218 00:14:12,417 --> 00:14:15,040 I took on Jason Van Dyke's case, um, 219 00:14:15,041 --> 00:14:17,040 really from the early stages. 220 00:14:17,041 --> 00:14:20,165 It was just an administrative case. 221 00:14:20,166 --> 00:14:25,207 After the shooting, the video and the reports 222 00:14:25,208 --> 00:14:28,833 were reviewed by the top command staff members 223 00:14:28,834 --> 00:14:34,040 and everybody, to a man, concluded that 224 00:14:34,041 --> 00:14:37,708 this is a, um, a proper shooting. 225 00:14:37,709 --> 00:14:40,750 It was essentially approved. 226 00:14:55,667 --> 00:14:58,207 Once we knew officer Jason Van Dyke's name, 227 00:14:58,208 --> 00:15:01,000 we were able to piece together his record. 228 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,749 By the time Van Dyke shot Laquan McDonald, 229 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:11,582 he had already been the target of more than 20 allegations 230 00:15:11,583 --> 00:15:13,083 of misconduct. 231 00:15:16,417 --> 00:15:19,082 But in the course of his 13-year career, 232 00:15:19,083 --> 00:15:21,875 he had never once been disciplined. 233 00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:28,708 There was little reason to believe the McDonald case 234 00:15:28,709 --> 00:15:30,792 would end any differently. 235 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:35,040 The police said the shooting was justified, 236 00:15:35,041 --> 00:15:38,667 and McDonald's family wasn't speaking to the press. 237 00:15:40,625 --> 00:15:43,290 I was all-in on the story, 238 00:15:43,291 --> 00:15:46,249 but at that point, I had one source with information 239 00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:48,749 about the dash cam video, 240 00:15:48,750 --> 00:15:50,958 unwilling to be publicly named 241 00:15:50,959 --> 00:15:54,667 because of concerns about retaliation. 242 00:15:55,959 --> 00:15:59,332 So I asked a source if she could find out about 243 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:02,000 the content of the autopsy. 244 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:12,332 And I went out for a run quite late in the evening 245 00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:15,666 and she pulled up in her vehicle. 246 00:16:15,667 --> 00:16:18,666 She was visibly shaken. 247 00:16:18,667 --> 00:16:21,624 And almost immediately, she said, 248 00:16:21,625 --> 00:16:23,666 "16 shots. 249 00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:25,667 Front and back." 250 00:16:34,709 --> 00:16:38,374 A total of 16 bullets struck the body. 251 00:16:38,375 --> 00:16:40,791 Two in the back, one in the left upper back here, 252 00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:42,374 and one in the right lower back. 253 00:16:42,375 --> 00:16:45,332 Each wound gets a detailed paragraph. 254 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:47,708 Two wounds on the anterior right leg. 255 00:16:47,709 --> 00:16:49,541 There's a graze on the head, 256 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:51,999 a gunshot wound through the left side of the front of the neck, 257 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,666 which would be a serious wound in that it 258 00:16:53,667 --> 00:16:55,332 went through the trachea. 259 00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:58,542 And then all the rest of the wounds are through the arms. 260 00:17:03,333 --> 00:17:06,624 Autopsies are extraordinary documents. 261 00:17:06,625 --> 00:17:09,499 They're the victim testifying. 262 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:14,374 The closest we have to Laquan McDonald giving an account 263 00:17:14,375 --> 00:17:18,332 of what happened to him is the autopsy. 264 00:17:18,333 --> 00:17:20,499 Seven bullets were recovered from the body, 265 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:23,290 which means, uh, nine would've passed through the body, 266 00:17:23,291 --> 00:17:25,166 including the graze. 267 00:17:28,250 --> 00:17:31,082 Small probable projectile fragments 268 00:17:31,083 --> 00:17:32,666 recovered from the mouth, 269 00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:34,416 that could be from a bullet which might have 270 00:17:34,417 --> 00:17:36,165 impacted on the ground near the body 271 00:17:36,166 --> 00:17:37,916 and could've caused some shrapnel, which could've 272 00:17:37,917 --> 00:17:40,416 gotten up into the mouth. 273 00:17:40,417 --> 00:17:42,416 Given the other things we knew, 274 00:17:42,417 --> 00:17:45,874 what the autopsy suggested was the boy on the ground, 275 00:17:45,875 --> 00:17:47,582 rolling around in pain, 276 00:17:47,583 --> 00:17:50,207 and bullets entering at different points 277 00:17:50,208 --> 00:17:54,250 from the same... from the same shooter. 278 00:17:56,750 --> 00:18:00,624 The autopsy utterly impeached the official narrative 279 00:18:00,625 --> 00:18:03,082 that the city had been promoting. 280 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,791 Young man with a knife, aggressive, 281 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:07,124 lunges a police officer, policer officer shoots 282 00:18:07,125 --> 00:18:09,291 in self-defense. 283 00:18:10,375 --> 00:18:12,834 It simply couldn't be true. 284 00:18:15,792 --> 00:18:19,874 But the autopsy didn't provide a counter-narrative. 285 00:18:19,875 --> 00:18:22,624 For that, it was critical to talk to 286 00:18:22,625 --> 00:18:25,208 civilian witnesses to the shooting. 287 00:18:34,625 --> 00:18:39,249 After a series of dead ends and wrong addresses, 288 00:18:39,250 --> 00:18:42,332 I showed up at the doorstep of Jose Torres 289 00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:45,249 and his son, Xavier. 290 00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:48,457 When Jamie came to my door, I freaked out. 291 00:18:48,458 --> 00:18:50,666 I'm looking behind him, looking around, to see if... 292 00:18:50,667 --> 00:18:54,500 I'm thinking it's the police is here to get me. 293 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:58,457 I don't wanna talk bad about all police officers, 294 00:18:58,458 --> 00:19:00,082 'cause they're not all bad. I have a lot of friends 295 00:19:00,083 --> 00:19:02,958 that are police officers. But, um... 296 00:19:02,959 --> 00:19:05,165 you know, after seeing this, 297 00:19:05,166 --> 00:19:07,833 I lost pretty much the trust in... 298 00:19:07,834 --> 00:19:10,083 In the police. 299 00:19:11,458 --> 00:19:15,375 We were traveling North-bound on Pulaski. 300 00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:21,499 I was actually the first car that pulled up at the scene. 301 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:23,207 I had just barely come off from from work. 302 00:19:23,208 --> 00:19:26,332 I was headed to Burger King. 303 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:31,542 I see a guy running next... on my window. 304 00:19:32,417 --> 00:19:34,999 He was getting chased by the cops. 305 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,541 They were chasing him. 306 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:38,124 We had the street light, so we were able to, you know, 307 00:19:38,125 --> 00:19:40,374 get a good view of what was going on. 308 00:19:40,375 --> 00:19:42,582 There were a lot of police officers. 309 00:19:42,583 --> 00:19:44,207 And it just seemed like he was just trying to 310 00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:46,624 get away from... From what was going on. 311 00:19:46,625 --> 00:19:49,207 Those first shots came in and he dropped. 312 00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:51,499 Shots and saw him drop. 313 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:53,207 He literally dropped. 314 00:19:53,208 --> 00:19:55,583 And there was a small pause. 315 00:19:56,583 --> 00:20:00,374 I see Laquan McDonald move. 316 00:20:00,375 --> 00:20:02,541 I... It didn't seem like he was getting up. 317 00:20:02,542 --> 00:20:05,499 It just seemed like he was in pain. 318 00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:08,583 But that's when other shots start coming in. 319 00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:12,541 He was on the ground, and still, 320 00:20:12,542 --> 00:20:13,624 more shots came at him. 321 00:20:13,625 --> 00:20:15,833 When the gunshots were going in, 322 00:20:15,834 --> 00:20:17,833 his just body kept jumping. 323 00:20:17,834 --> 00:20:19,416 It... You could tell it was... 324 00:20:19,417 --> 00:20:20,916 He didn't have no life in there no more. 325 00:20:20,917 --> 00:20:23,249 And the next thing I remember 326 00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:25,457 is, um, yelling, "Stop shooting!" 327 00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:27,791 He's dead already!" 328 00:20:27,792 --> 00:20:28,958 I was kind of upset and I said, 329 00:20:28,959 --> 00:20:30,666 "Why the fuck are they still shooting him? 330 00:20:30,667 --> 00:20:31,916 He's on the ground." 331 00:20:31,917 --> 00:20:35,417 From what we see, he wasn't posing any type of threat. 332 00:20:38,041 --> 00:20:40,416 The detectives call me over 333 00:20:40,417 --> 00:20:44,375 and they took us to the precinct. 334 00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:48,875 They separated us in three different rooms. 335 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:52,416 They brought me into a small office and they started 336 00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:55,500 questioning me and asking me what happened. 337 00:20:56,709 --> 00:20:59,499 I talked to several detectives, not one. 338 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,499 And they kept asking me the qu... same questions 339 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:03,165 over and over again. 340 00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:06,207 "What did you see? How many gunshots did you hear?" 341 00:21:06,208 --> 00:21:08,874 And the more I kept telling them of what I saw, 342 00:21:08,875 --> 00:21:10,791 they were trying to make me... 343 00:21:10,792 --> 00:21:12,624 They would... They would tell me stuff like, 344 00:21:12,625 --> 00:21:14,290 "Well, we're watching the video 345 00:21:14,291 --> 00:21:16,916 and your story does not match." 346 00:21:16,917 --> 00:21:18,374 And, uh... 347 00:21:18,375 --> 00:21:20,999 and I said, "Well, if it doesn't match, then..." 348 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,791 And you have a video, what am I doing here?" 349 00:21:23,792 --> 00:21:27,416 And they said, "Well, you know, it's not good to lie." 350 00:21:27,417 --> 00:21:29,207 They really wanted me to change the story 351 00:21:29,208 --> 00:21:32,416 about how many shots I had heard. 352 00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:33,833 If I didn't tell them what they wanted to hear, 353 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,833 I definitely thought I was gonna go to jail. 354 00:21:36,834 --> 00:21:40,249 H... He kept pushing me to say that he was trying to get up. 355 00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:42,290 I'm like, "No." I'm like, "I'm not... 356 00:21:42,291 --> 00:21:44,499 Why would I change my story?" 357 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:46,124 Later, a detective comes in the room 358 00:21:46,125 --> 00:21:48,165 where we were all together. 359 00:21:48,166 --> 00:21:50,624 One of the other guys tells him, 360 00:21:50,625 --> 00:21:52,082 "We already told you, 361 00:21:52,083 --> 00:21:56,290 we saw a cop execute a guy." 362 00:21:56,291 --> 00:21:59,624 And the detective just blew up like, 363 00:21:59,625 --> 00:22:02,624 "What? It's just another scumbag out of the street." 364 00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:04,207 We did you a favor. 365 00:22:04,208 --> 00:22:06,124 "We did Chicago a favor." 366 00:22:06,125 --> 00:22:07,833 In that moment, I was like, "No." 367 00:22:07,834 --> 00:22:11,124 If I'm not being arrested, um, I'm not gonna say another word 368 00:22:11,125 --> 00:22:14,457 "until I have a lawyer." 369 00:22:14,458 --> 00:22:17,959 Five minutes later, they told us we were free to go. 370 00:22:18,375 --> 00:22:21,083 Four in the morning. 371 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:45,999 The following day, I get up in the morning 372 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,124 before I head to work, 373 00:22:47,125 --> 00:22:48,499 and I turn on the news because I want to see 374 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,708 if there was anything about the shooting. 375 00:22:51,709 --> 00:22:54,541 I see this spokesperson, Pat Camden. 376 00:22:54,542 --> 00:22:56,374 I'm like, "No, this is wrong." 377 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,249 I'm like, "What they're saying is false." 378 00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:59,624 He did not lunge at him. 379 00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:02,791 "Um, he was turning away from him at the time." 380 00:23:02,792 --> 00:23:05,791 It was eating away at me. 381 00:23:05,792 --> 00:23:09,165 What they were saying was a lie. 382 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:11,165 I wanted to talk to somebody, 383 00:23:11,166 --> 00:23:12,916 but a few guys lived in the neighborhood 384 00:23:12,917 --> 00:23:18,082 and I was worried about retaliation from the police. 385 00:23:18,083 --> 00:23:21,582 As time went by, I... I j... I couldn't sleep. 386 00:23:21,583 --> 00:23:23,541 I'm like, "What if that was one of my boys that..." 387 00:23:23,542 --> 00:23:26,583 That the police gunned-down like that?" 388 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:32,625 And I... I said, "I have to come forward." 389 00:23:47,125 --> 00:23:49,958 Once I had a credible civilian witness, 390 00:23:49,959 --> 00:23:53,541 a precise description of a dash cam video, 391 00:23:53,542 --> 00:23:58,041 and the autopsy, I was ready to publish. 392 00:24:02,625 --> 00:24:04,791 Once the piece appears in Slate, 393 00:24:04,792 --> 00:24:07,542 pretty much the whole story was in plain sight. 394 00:24:09,959 --> 00:24:13,499 At four AM, the general counsel from the police department 395 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:17,375 sent a link to the piece to the chief lawyer for the city. 396 00:24:22,125 --> 00:24:23,666 By the next morning, 397 00:24:23,667 --> 00:24:26,249 the entire text was in the email boxes 398 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:29,208 of the mayor's senior staff. 399 00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:37,165 How did they respond? 400 00:24:37,166 --> 00:24:39,708 Silence. 401 00:24:39,709 --> 00:24:42,208 They don't respond. 402 00:24:51,583 --> 00:24:57,457 Jamie began clanging the bell on Laquan McDonald. 403 00:24:57,458 --> 00:24:59,624 But... 404 00:24:59,625 --> 00:25:01,374 Not as a defense, but these stories 405 00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,791 are hard to investigate. 406 00:25:02,792 --> 00:25:07,499 Autopsy reports can be subject to some interpretation. 407 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,374 Eye witness statements can be subject 408 00:25:10,375 --> 00:25:12,624 to questioning in terms of accuracy 409 00:25:12,625 --> 00:25:16,374 or where they were from their vantage point. 410 00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:22,709 And there are other stories that people were working on. 411 00:25:23,709 --> 00:25:25,749 Police do get the benefit of the doubt. 412 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:29,040 And, in most cases... 413 00:25:29,041 --> 00:25:32,541 properly so. They put their lives on the line. 414 00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:36,582 We count on them to do what we don't do. 415 00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:40,250 And it kind of went by the wayside. 416 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,708 I wouldn't say the story died, 417 00:25:45,709 --> 00:25:48,040 but it was like a tree falling in the forest. 418 00:25:48,041 --> 00:25:49,750 You know, who heard it? 419 00:25:53,542 --> 00:25:56,249 At every point in this process, 420 00:25:56,250 --> 00:26:01,291 everything works in support of the official narrative. 421 00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:07,582 The machinery is actually continuing to function 422 00:26:07,583 --> 00:26:10,708 until dramatically, 423 00:26:10,709 --> 00:26:14,249 almost cataclysmically, and mysteriously, 424 00:26:14,250 --> 00:26:16,750 it doesn't. 425 00:26:28,375 --> 00:26:31,416 Good afternoon, Jeff Neslund's office. 426 00:26:31,417 --> 00:26:33,165 We had heard about it, 427 00:26:33,166 --> 00:26:36,541 Jamie Kalven had written articles about it, 428 00:26:36,542 --> 00:26:39,374 so we sent probate subpoenas to the department, 429 00:26:39,375 --> 00:26:43,082 saying "We want the dash cam videos." 430 00:26:43,083 --> 00:26:47,749 And time had gone by and we hadn't received anything yet. 431 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:50,124 And so we called and the sergeant said, 432 00:26:50,125 --> 00:26:52,624 "You got to go through Internal Affairs." 433 00:26:52,625 --> 00:26:54,165 So we called Internal Affairs 434 00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:56,499 and Internal Affairs person said, 435 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,124 "We don't deal with subpoenas." 436 00:26:58,125 --> 00:27:00,124 And so we called the subpoena sergeant back 437 00:27:00,125 --> 00:27:01,624 and said, "They don't deal with it?" 438 00:27:01,625 --> 00:27:05,290 Okay, you know? Here it comes." 439 00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:09,374 You know, I think this kind of went under the radar. 440 00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:11,749 If somebody higher-up would've seen this, 441 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:13,958 they would've sent lawyers to probate court trying 442 00:27:13,959 --> 00:27:16,083 to quash the subpoena. 443 00:27:16,834 --> 00:27:18,332 So whether that person actually knew 444 00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:21,000 what he was sending? I don't know. 445 00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:26,541 We popped it in in my computer and we were shocked. 446 00:27:26,542 --> 00:27:28,541 A male we caught breaking into church 447 00:27:28,542 --> 00:27:30,165 and stealing radios. 448 00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:32,457 And what we saw was, in our opinion, uh, 449 00:27:32,458 --> 00:27:35,083 a first-degree murder. 450 00:27:37,792 --> 00:27:39,666 This video was accessible and reviewed 451 00:27:39,667 --> 00:27:40,999 by the police the night of the shooting, 452 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,290 so how do you justify this? 453 00:27:43,291 --> 00:27:45,290 You come up with a bunch of excuses, 454 00:27:45,291 --> 00:27:47,624 a bunch of lies about a young man, 455 00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:49,541 waving the knife aggressively, 456 00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:52,041 threatening us. 457 00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:57,165 We know from emails that have been released 458 00:27:57,166 --> 00:28:00,582 that they were on the lookout for somebody calling about 459 00:28:00,583 --> 00:28:03,999 the Laquan McDonald case. 460 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,040 And when we finally did reach out to the city, 461 00:28:08,041 --> 00:28:12,333 they knew exactly what case we were talking about. 462 00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:15,999 We told them, "We've got the video." 463 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,165 And there was just stunned silence on the other 464 00:28:18,166 --> 00:28:22,333 end of the phone that said "How'd you get the video?" 465 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,541 At that point, the machinery was, in some sense, working. 466 00:28:38,542 --> 00:28:41,417 But the pressure is building. 467 00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:46,959 It starts with the autopsy impeaching the police narrative. 468 00:28:48,166 --> 00:28:52,041 It includes the civilian witnesses. 469 00:28:52,875 --> 00:28:56,040 And finally, somewhat improbably, 470 00:28:56,041 --> 00:29:00,875 the video is sent to the lawyers for the family. 471 00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:07,833 At the same time, the national context keeps intensifying. 472 00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:12,416 The shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, 473 00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:16,374 Eric Garner in New York, 474 00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:18,332 Freddie Gray in Baltimore. 475 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,165 Protests growing nationwide, 476 00:29:20,166 --> 00:29:23,499 from Oakland, California, Philadelphia, Atlanta, 477 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,709 and Washington D.C. 478 00:29:27,291 --> 00:29:30,457 And, in response to the popular protests, 479 00:29:30,458 --> 00:29:34,624 we have an increasingly active Justice Department 480 00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:36,124 intervening. 481 00:29:36,125 --> 00:29:38,749 The Justice Department has opened investigations 482 00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:40,958 or is enforcing court-ordered changes 483 00:29:40,959 --> 00:29:43,999 in 32 police departments and sheriff's offices 484 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,166 in 18 states. 485 00:29:55,959 --> 00:29:57,999 The hope was that the public outcry about 486 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,165 the Laquan McDonald case would finally bring 487 00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:04,333 the Department of Justice to intervene in Chicago. 488 00:30:12,625 --> 00:30:14,499 I came to the Department of Justice 489 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:16,958 in the kind of Golden Era, um, 490 00:30:16,959 --> 00:30:20,749 and I worked with a really amazing group of people 491 00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:23,749 I investigated departments ranging from New Orleans 492 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:27,000 to Ferguson to Newark, New Jersey. 493 00:30:31,542 --> 00:30:34,374 In Chicago, we opened the formal investigation 494 00:30:34,375 --> 00:30:37,375 after Laquan McDonald was killed. 495 00:30:43,583 --> 00:30:46,207 Chicago was the largest team we've ever had, 496 00:30:46,208 --> 00:30:50,207 and we reviewed over 400 Use of Force investigations, 497 00:30:50,208 --> 00:30:52,833 and that included 170 investigations 498 00:30:52,834 --> 00:30:55,208 of officer-involved shootings. 499 00:30:56,959 --> 00:31:00,499 There's never been the kind of wholesale change 500 00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:02,999 and reform needed from within Chicago, 501 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040 where you really have such strong local politics 502 00:31:05,041 --> 00:31:08,165 and such a strong police department. 503 00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:11,874 What we are looking at when we do one of these investigations? 504 00:31:11,875 --> 00:31:14,499 "Is this behavior aberrational? Or is it part of a normal 505 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,375 pattern or practice?" 506 00:31:20,917 --> 00:31:23,416 In Chicago, the police officers 507 00:31:23,417 --> 00:31:25,624 still control the scene of a shooting 508 00:31:25,625 --> 00:31:29,083 and still conduct the initial questioning. 509 00:31:31,792 --> 00:31:34,999 Officers were not separated before they gave statements. 510 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,416 Um, officers were allowed to speak to their union reps. 511 00:31:38,417 --> 00:31:40,290 They don't prohibit officers, in any way, 512 00:31:40,291 --> 00:31:43,000 from cooking their stories. 513 00:31:48,125 --> 00:31:50,666 The FOP responded to 514 00:31:50,667 --> 00:31:52,874 the Laquan McDonald shooting as they respond 515 00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:55,249 to all police-involved shootings. 516 00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:57,249 So what we try to do is give the officers 517 00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,749 the benefit of the doubt and allow them 518 00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:02,958 to de-escalate, more or less. 519 00:32:02,959 --> 00:32:05,582 And... And to get some time away, 520 00:32:05,583 --> 00:32:08,040 collect your thoughts, meet with counsel, 521 00:32:08,041 --> 00:32:11,291 and then go forward and make their statement. 522 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:18,124 Morning after, I get a phone call. 523 00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:20,541 I ask them, "How is everything?" 524 00:32:20,542 --> 00:32:22,290 Is everybody okay?" 525 00:32:22,291 --> 00:32:24,582 "Everybody's okay." "Is it a good shoot?" 526 00:32:24,583 --> 00:32:26,207 "It's a good shoot." 527 00:32:26,208 --> 00:32:28,291 We're done. 528 00:32:32,458 --> 00:32:36,833 They ask officers to risk their careers 529 00:32:36,834 --> 00:32:39,040 when they get them all in a room together and say, 530 00:32:39,041 --> 00:32:43,332 "Hey, let's all make sure we have our stories straight." 531 00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:46,332 We've got a pretty good batting average. 532 00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:49,124 We would be the highest-paid player in that league, 533 00:32:49,125 --> 00:32:55,166 if it was salary, it was based on, uh, on wins. 534 00:33:02,083 --> 00:33:03,666 There were a lot of issues we found 535 00:33:03,667 --> 00:33:07,999 with officer statements in the Laquan McDonald case. 536 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,749 There's a saying in police work. 537 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:11,708 There's a saying in crisis management 538 00:33:11,709 --> 00:33:13,624 that the first three reports from the scene 539 00:33:13,625 --> 00:33:15,499 are generally wrong. 540 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:17,332 Did you know that? 541 00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:19,541 It is absolutely the case that there may be 542 00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:22,165 different interpretations or different... 543 00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:24,457 parts of a scenario were remembered differently 544 00:33:24,458 --> 00:33:26,290 by different people. 545 00:33:26,291 --> 00:33:30,332 The problem is that not only are all of these narratives 546 00:33:30,333 --> 00:33:32,290 remarkably similar to each other but they're all 547 00:33:32,291 --> 00:33:35,333 inconsistent with the evidence in the exact same ways. 548 00:33:35,792 --> 00:33:37,958 You could weave whatever thread you want through this. 549 00:33:37,959 --> 00:33:41,040 You could say that Lee Harvey Oswald was involved. 550 00:33:41,041 --> 00:33:44,207 But he wasn't here. 551 00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:47,750 The Laquan McDonald case was not a cover-up. 552 00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:53,332 The officers say that they saw the victim lunge. 553 00:33:53,333 --> 00:33:56,708 Other officers say that Laquan McDonald was behaving 554 00:33:56,709 --> 00:33:59,542 in a threatening manner. 555 00:34:01,208 --> 00:34:03,416 They lied. They lied from day one. 556 00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:05,666 They lied about something of 557 00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:08,208 fundamental human importance. 558 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,666 There are certain things that were put in the reports 559 00:34:14,667 --> 00:34:18,166 that may not appear in all the evidence. 560 00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,958 I would certainly acknowledge that. 561 00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:23,165 There's always an effort to, you know, make the case 562 00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:27,249 as good as it can be going forward to trial. 563 00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:30,207 And I know that the reports were drafted 564 00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:34,000 and reviewed by the command staff. 565 00:34:35,834 --> 00:34:38,833 It was really the pattern and practice of... 566 00:34:38,834 --> 00:34:41,917 Of the police department. 567 00:34:46,458 --> 00:34:49,457 The investigation involved, arguably, 568 00:34:49,458 --> 00:34:51,874 the destruction of evidence as in the... 569 00:34:51,875 --> 00:34:54,791 The case of the Burger King, the falsification of reports 570 00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:56,874 by multiple officers, 571 00:34:56,875 --> 00:34:59,457 the intimidation of witnesses, 572 00:34:59,458 --> 00:35:03,834 and the falsification of their stories. 573 00:35:05,417 --> 00:35:10,625 And then, the findings go to the State's Attorney's office. 574 00:35:14,625 --> 00:35:17,040 Being, uh, Cook County State's Attorney, 575 00:35:17,041 --> 00:35:19,249 this is the second-largest office in the nation, 576 00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:22,499 so it's... it's quite a... a big job. 577 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,999 The number one goal for a State's Attorney, 578 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,165 as a prosecutor, either here or anywhere in the country, 579 00:35:28,166 --> 00:35:30,833 is public safety. 580 00:35:30,834 --> 00:35:32,165 It's not easy. 581 00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:34,582 Right now, police are under attack 582 00:35:34,583 --> 00:35:36,499 and I think right now, 583 00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:39,457 probably the most difficult job you can have 584 00:35:39,458 --> 00:35:41,833 is to be a police officer. 585 00:35:41,834 --> 00:35:45,332 And so, police officer shootings have to be handled differently, 586 00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:47,165 because they're police officers 587 00:35:47,166 --> 00:35:49,499 and it's not the same as one gangbanger 588 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:53,165 shooting another. It'll never be. 589 00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:55,165 Here's the other reality: 590 00:35:55,166 --> 00:35:57,666 It's extremely hard to convict police officers. 591 00:35:57,667 --> 00:36:01,124 And if you look at the results across the nation, 592 00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:05,500 it... it's rare that we're successful. 593 00:36:07,917 --> 00:36:09,666 When did you see the video? 594 00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:12,040 I... Two weeks after the... It happened, 595 00:36:12,041 --> 00:36:14,917 back in November of 2014. 596 00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:21,208 And when did the mayor see it? 597 00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:27,709 I would guess he saw it before I did. 598 00:36:37,959 --> 00:36:40,165 Are you a registered voter in this neighborhood? 599 00:36:40,166 --> 00:36:41,207 All right, have a blessed day. 600 00:36:41,208 --> 00:36:42,416 What about you, brother? 601 00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:45,208 - Not this neighborhood, sir. - Oh, okay. 602 00:36:56,917 --> 00:36:59,207 With Laquan, it just seemed like 603 00:36:59,208 --> 00:37:02,582 here's another black youth shot 604 00:37:02,583 --> 00:37:06,417 by Chicago Police Department. No justice. 605 00:37:07,417 --> 00:37:09,834 Yeah, you can sign right here. 606 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:13,749 Thank you so much. 607 00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:18,207 But when Jamie Kelven came out with his investigation, 608 00:37:18,208 --> 00:37:21,416 I found out that the video existed. 609 00:37:21,417 --> 00:37:23,374 For so long, across the nation, 610 00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:25,374 we never had video evidence, you know what I mean? 611 00:37:25,375 --> 00:37:28,207 Like, with Trayvon Martin, with Mike Brown, 612 00:37:28,208 --> 00:37:31,666 we never had real video evidence. 613 00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:33,958 But now, here we are. 614 00:37:33,959 --> 00:37:36,457 Video evidence. 615 00:37:36,458 --> 00:37:38,749 And so I just got to researching about 616 00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:42,917 how to get information released from the police department. 617 00:37:43,583 --> 00:37:47,874 I had a... a friend, he told me about FOIA. 618 00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:49,124 And I didn't know at the time, 619 00:37:49,125 --> 00:37:51,082 I wasn't educated on what FOIA was, 620 00:37:51,083 --> 00:37:52,958 the Freedom of Information Act. 621 00:37:52,959 --> 00:37:55,625 We FOIA'd for the tape, right? 622 00:37:56,375 --> 00:38:00,207 Of course, the Chicago Police Department denied us, 623 00:38:00,208 --> 00:38:05,458 and we filed a lawsuit, and we hired a attorney. 624 00:38:06,458 --> 00:38:10,374 Part of the police department's and city's 625 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:14,457 strategy and success in maintaining a system 626 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:18,000 of impunity involves official secrecy. 627 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,124 The standard operating procedure of keeping things secret was. 628 00:38:22,125 --> 00:38:24,040 "It's under investigation." 629 00:38:24,041 --> 00:38:26,958 The three words "It's under investigation" 630 00:38:26,959 --> 00:38:28,582 just end all inquiry. 631 00:38:28,583 --> 00:38:30,541 It's like... 632 00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:33,417 It was like running into a brick wall. 633 00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:40,499 I don't... I don't really have an opposition 634 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,708 to the video being released. 635 00:38:43,709 --> 00:38:46,290 My concern is I don't want 636 00:38:46,291 --> 00:38:49,457 the case to somehow be jeopardized. 637 00:38:49,458 --> 00:38:51,499 I think if you ask any prosecutor, 638 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,958 we don't like when all of our evidence 639 00:38:53,959 --> 00:38:55,667 is out there. 640 00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:01,499 So, the city and the prosecutors, um... 641 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:05,165 They knew the facts of this case, um... 642 00:39:05,166 --> 00:39:08,124 From a very early-on stage. 643 00:39:08,125 --> 00:39:10,582 They knew the contents of the video. 644 00:39:10,583 --> 00:39:15,875 But we had a political storm that was brewing. 645 00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:19,416 President Obama's former Chief of Staff, 646 00:39:19,417 --> 00:39:21,582 current-Mayor Rahm Emanuel, 647 00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:24,040 is in a race against Cook County Commissioner 648 00:39:24,041 --> 00:39:25,874 Jesus "Chewy" Garcia. 649 00:39:25,875 --> 00:39:28,207 That Emanuel even has a competitor 650 00:39:28,208 --> 00:39:31,624 is a stunning setback, but his failure to win a majority 651 00:39:31,625 --> 00:39:35,667 in the February election forced him into a run-off. 652 00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:40,749 The run-off election was absolutely a factor in 653 00:39:40,750 --> 00:39:44,165 the city's suppression of this tape. 654 00:39:44,166 --> 00:39:46,374 I was... I was ready to, you know, 655 00:39:46,375 --> 00:39:48,249 "Fuck the city. Let's file this lawsuit. 656 00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:50,541 Let's release this video." 657 00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:53,040 But then the city called us back and said, 658 00:39:53,041 --> 00:39:55,249 "We want to discuss settling it." 659 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:57,916 And so we had many meetings with. 660 00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:01,834 Laquan's family about what was the best way to proceed. 661 00:40:02,583 --> 00:40:05,541 And that was something we agonized about. 662 00:40:05,542 --> 00:40:07,499 The family, of course, has lost someone, 663 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,124 and they went, "Why can't this person be charged?" 664 00:40:10,125 --> 00:40:11,833 What's gonna... I want him kicked off the force. 665 00:40:11,834 --> 00:40:13,374 "I want him in jail." 666 00:40:13,375 --> 00:40:15,582 And you tell them, "We don't have the power" 667 00:40:15,583 --> 00:40:18,207 to charge somebody and lock somebody up 668 00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:20,583 or cost them their job. 669 00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:23,374 All we can do is ask the city 670 00:40:23,375 --> 00:40:27,166 "to compensate you for your loss." 671 00:40:27,959 --> 00:40:32,959 And so, since we may not get him to go to jail... 672 00:40:34,125 --> 00:40:37,749 that settlement became one of the tools that the family had 673 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:40,458 to fight this Goliath. 674 00:40:41,125 --> 00:40:44,542 We had to throw the hardest blows that we could throw. 675 00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:06,249 15. Standby. 676 00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:11,333 In five, four, three, ready int? Two... 677 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,833 Tonight, NBC 5 Investigates, a Carol Marin exclusive. 678 00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:18,332 Laquan McDonald died on October 20th 679 00:41:18,333 --> 00:41:22,958 after being shot 16 times by one Chicago police officer. 680 00:41:22,959 --> 00:41:26,582 Just six months later, the family of Laquan McDonald 681 00:41:26,583 --> 00:41:30,249 agreed to a $5 million settlement with the city 682 00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:32,833 prior to any lawsuit being filed. 683 00:41:32,834 --> 00:41:35,833 There is a huge flag when the city, 684 00:41:35,834 --> 00:41:39,499 without much argument, without much discussion, 685 00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:43,624 with very little time, offers $5 million. 686 00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:46,124 We've dealt with any number of city lawsuits 687 00:41:46,125 --> 00:41:48,541 that linger forever. 688 00:41:48,542 --> 00:41:50,916 So why this and why that fast? 689 00:41:50,917 --> 00:41:55,875 That was... That was the reddest of red flags. 690 00:41:57,041 --> 00:42:00,040 The City of Chicago denies, according to the settlement 691 00:42:00,041 --> 00:42:03,833 agreement, allegations of wrongdoing. 692 00:42:03,834 --> 00:42:09,041 The dash cam video has not been released by the city. 693 00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:12,207 What happened with the Laquan McDonald settlement 694 00:42:12,208 --> 00:42:15,207 is that the family or the lawyers could not release 695 00:42:15,208 --> 00:42:18,499 the video evidence to show us, in the general public, 696 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:20,625 what really happened that night. 697 00:42:21,709 --> 00:42:24,457 I think Rahm Emanuel, the Mayor, 698 00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:28,833 suppressed this video to be re-elected in 2015. 699 00:42:28,834 --> 00:42:30,667 Without a doubt. 700 00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,582 If this tape would've came out 701 00:42:33,583 --> 00:42:35,416 when he was running for re-election, 702 00:42:35,417 --> 00:42:37,625 he would've never been elected. 703 00:42:46,583 --> 00:42:49,208 Thank you, Chicago! 704 00:42:57,083 --> 00:43:00,667 Was this a cover-up? I think it was a cover-up. 705 00:43:02,125 --> 00:43:04,332 - What do we do? - Stand up, fight back! 706 00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:07,582 When black lives are under attack! What do you do? 707 00:43:07,583 --> 00:43:09,624 - Rise up, fight back! - What do you do? 708 00:43:09,625 --> 00:43:11,374 Rise up, fight back! 709 00:43:11,375 --> 00:43:13,457 I don't need to see a video to know that 710 00:43:13,458 --> 00:43:16,332 the Chicago Police Department consistently lie about things, 711 00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:17,916 because that's how the department is set up. 712 00:43:17,917 --> 00:43:20,750 We must love each other and protect each other. 713 00:43:21,333 --> 00:43:23,916 I wasn't surprised that the City of Chicago 714 00:43:23,917 --> 00:43:26,457 and Anita Alvarez, Cook County's State's Attorney, 715 00:43:26,458 --> 00:43:28,749 was sitting on the video, 716 00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:30,499 the Chicago Police Department was sitting 717 00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:33,958 on the video, because there was a movement going on 718 00:43:33,959 --> 00:43:36,582 at that time that was ready to respond. 719 00:43:36,583 --> 00:43:38,708 - Who can you trust? - Not the police! 720 00:43:38,709 --> 00:43:40,916 Wild afternoon on the streets here in Chicago, 721 00:43:40,917 --> 00:43:43,541 and the protest ended in several arrests. 722 00:43:43,542 --> 00:43:45,332 We want people to demand justice. 723 00:43:45,333 --> 00:43:47,542 We want people to take to the streets. 724 00:43:49,667 --> 00:43:52,791 At the time, the news about whether or not the video 725 00:43:52,792 --> 00:43:55,833 would be released, it was starting to amp up. 726 00:43:55,834 --> 00:43:58,749 And so, there's an escalation of... 727 00:43:58,750 --> 00:44:01,624 Of both tactics and an escalation of involvement 728 00:44:01,625 --> 00:44:03,708 from people across the city. 729 00:44:03,709 --> 00:44:05,249 - What do we want? - Justice! 730 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:06,708 - When do we want it? - Now! 731 00:44:06,709 --> 00:44:08,249 - What do we want? - Justice! 732 00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:09,749 - When do we want it? - Now! 733 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:12,541 We're in a tough time for policing right now. 734 00:44:12,542 --> 00:44:15,749 I don't think this climate has ever existed in the history 735 00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:17,374 of American policing. 736 00:44:17,375 --> 00:44:18,958 And so we were being asked, 737 00:44:18,959 --> 00:44:21,249 "What are your demands?" 738 00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:23,457 "Fire the Superintendent,." 739 00:44:23,458 --> 00:44:25,958 Rahm Emanuel resign, 740 00:44:25,959 --> 00:44:30,417 "Anita Alvarez, we will vote you out of office." 741 00:44:41,667 --> 00:44:44,208 Have you herd o... Of Kim... Foxx? 742 00:44:47,834 --> 00:44:51,624 If it don't say "Foxx," it ain't the right box. 743 00:44:51,625 --> 00:44:53,624 Prior to the campaign, I served 12 years 744 00:44:53,625 --> 00:44:55,999 as an Assistant State's Attorney here in Cook County. 745 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040 And yes, I do believe that there's been an issue 746 00:44:59,041 --> 00:45:02,374 of accountability with law enforcement here in Chicago. 747 00:45:02,375 --> 00:45:03,874 How you doing, sir? 748 00:45:03,875 --> 00:45:05,165 Kim Foxx, running for State's... 749 00:45:05,166 --> 00:45:07,332 - I'm on my way right now. - All right. I need that vote. 750 00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,874 I need that vote. 751 00:45:08,875 --> 00:45:12,499 - God bless. - God bless you! 752 00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:14,082 - How are you, ma'am? - How you doin'? 753 00:45:14,083 --> 00:45:16,541 Do the right thing. Thank you, sir. 754 00:45:16,542 --> 00:45:18,666 - Love you, sis. - Love you, too. 755 00:45:18,667 --> 00:45:20,791 Thank you. 756 00:45:20,792 --> 00:45:23,667 Chicago... 757 00:45:26,291 --> 00:45:29,708 has not had to reckon with what happens 758 00:45:29,709 --> 00:45:31,708 when you don't hold folks in law enforcement 759 00:45:31,709 --> 00:45:35,290 accountable for their misdeeds. 760 00:45:35,291 --> 00:45:37,499 Parts of the force have acted in a way 761 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,958 where they're immune from any accountability 762 00:45:40,959 --> 00:45:43,458 for what's happened. 763 00:45:45,083 --> 00:45:48,082 My mother, when I had my children... 764 00:45:48,083 --> 00:45:52,165 I have two daughters, uh... was so grateful 765 00:45:52,166 --> 00:45:54,082 that I didn't have sons. 766 00:45:54,083 --> 00:45:57,499 And I thought, "Oh, you're grateful because you get" 767 00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:59,708 more children that look like me? 768 00:45:59,709 --> 00:46:03,207 "And you get to re-live having... Having a daughter?" 769 00:46:03,208 --> 00:46:04,666 And she said, "No", 770 00:46:04,667 --> 00:46:07,958 because I don't want you to feel what it feels like 771 00:46:07,959 --> 00:46:11,541 "to worry about your son in this city." 772 00:46:11,542 --> 00:46:14,124 And then for so many in our communities, 773 00:46:14,125 --> 00:46:18,541 that that is a real and ever-present concern 774 00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,708 about the safety of their children, 775 00:46:20,709 --> 00:46:23,040 not just by random violence but also 776 00:46:23,041 --> 00:46:27,125 by the systems that are supposed to be there to protect them. 777 00:46:31,875 --> 00:46:35,499 A judge is expected to decide if dash cam video 778 00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:38,165 of a teenager being shot and killed by a Chicago police 779 00:46:38,166 --> 00:46:42,208 officer will be released to the public. 780 00:46:44,834 --> 00:46:47,791 We got together, we prayed... 781 00:46:47,792 --> 00:46:50,999 and we went in, and we sat down. 782 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,791 I got those jitters. You know, 783 00:46:52,792 --> 00:46:55,959 "We've come this far, we might lose." 784 00:46:56,917 --> 00:47:00,791 The judge, he began going through his decision letter. 785 00:47:00,792 --> 00:47:03,333 I think it was about seven pages. 786 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:06,583 And... 787 00:47:07,208 --> 00:47:10,166 I just was really shocked. 788 00:47:12,083 --> 00:47:16,374 The judge finds, 789 00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:18,040 as we had argued and as we had showed, 790 00:47:18,041 --> 00:47:22,582 that there was no legitimate or lawful basis 791 00:47:22,583 --> 00:47:26,833 for the police department to withhold this video 792 00:47:26,834 --> 00:47:29,332 of a state-killing of a 17-year-old boy 793 00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:31,333 from the public. 794 00:47:31,959 --> 00:47:35,082 Even though this is what the law required, 795 00:47:35,083 --> 00:47:38,124 even though this is the right thing to do, 796 00:47:38,125 --> 00:47:40,457 I don't know that I even believed that it was happening 797 00:47:40,458 --> 00:47:43,541 as it was happening. 798 00:47:43,542 --> 00:47:45,125 This was historic. 799 00:47:46,291 --> 00:47:48,207 The videotape will be released and seen 800 00:47:48,208 --> 00:47:50,624 by the public in a matter of days. 801 00:47:50,625 --> 00:47:52,249 I can't wait any longer, 802 00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:54,040 'cause this video's gonna be released 803 00:47:54,041 --> 00:47:56,333 and we're all gonna react. 804 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,416 It was a tsunami that I certainly couldn't stop. 805 00:48:00,417 --> 00:48:03,749 I know that the state would never have brought 806 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:06,082 murder charges in this case 807 00:48:06,083 --> 00:48:08,082 but for the release of the video. 808 00:48:08,083 --> 00:48:09,874 There's not a doubt in my mind. 809 00:48:09,875 --> 00:48:12,666 I make my... my... my, um, 810 00:48:12,667 --> 00:48:14,874 decisions based on facts and evidence. 811 00:48:14,875 --> 00:48:16,833 And so attorneys who are out there, you know, 812 00:48:16,834 --> 00:48:19,249 making money are going to, you know, 813 00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:21,082 say whatever. 814 00:48:21,083 --> 00:48:22,833 It is my determination 815 00:48:22,834 --> 00:48:25,666 that this police officer's actions 816 00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:27,749 were not justified and they were not 817 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:31,082 a proper use of deadly force. 818 00:48:31,083 --> 00:48:33,708 Why did you shoot 16 times? 819 00:48:33,709 --> 00:48:36,249 Mr. Van Dyke, anxiety? 820 00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:39,582 Until the video of this horrific shooting 821 00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:41,792 was released... 822 00:48:44,041 --> 00:48:46,666 there was a zero chance of... Of police accountability. 823 00:48:46,667 --> 00:48:49,290 That was the very first time in our history 824 00:48:49,291 --> 00:48:51,999 that an on-duty Chicago police officer 825 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,958 had ever been charged with killing 826 00:48:54,959 --> 00:48:58,166 a black man, woman, or child. 827 00:49:15,375 --> 00:49:17,791 I saw the video... 828 00:49:17,792 --> 00:49:22,166 the day it was released to the public. 829 00:49:23,166 --> 00:49:28,040 I... I paused initially, um... 830 00:49:28,041 --> 00:49:32,083 because it f... Something felt really... 831 00:49:33,208 --> 00:49:38,791 perverse about a city waiting to watch 832 00:49:38,792 --> 00:49:42,374 a video of a boy being killed. 833 00:49:42,375 --> 00:49:46,333 And yet, you felt like you had to see it. 834 00:50:06,458 --> 00:50:10,208 It wasn't about politics. 835 00:50:12,875 --> 00:50:14,666 As a life-long Chicagoan, 836 00:50:14,667 --> 00:50:17,207 not a candidate, not a... 837 00:50:17,208 --> 00:50:22,541 I thought of my brother, I thought of my husband. 838 00:50:22,542 --> 00:50:24,374 Um... 839 00:50:24,375 --> 00:50:28,542 And I understood my mother's angst. 840 00:50:41,709 --> 00:50:44,041 10-4. Anybody close? 841 00:50:51,583 --> 00:50:54,250 Let me know when he's in custody, guys. 842 00:50:59,542 --> 00:51:01,500 Shots fired by the police. 843 00:51:03,625 --> 00:51:06,417 Get the ambulance over here. 844 00:51:27,417 --> 00:51:31,208 What were your thoughts when you watched it? 845 00:51:33,709 --> 00:51:37,834 It... It... it was... 846 00:51:39,125 --> 00:51:42,041 That's a good question. Uh... 847 00:51:44,458 --> 00:51:48,040 As... As you look at something frame-by-frame, 848 00:51:48,041 --> 00:51:51,416 again, without the emotions that are involved, 849 00:51:51,417 --> 00:51:53,290 you can draw a conclusion. 850 00:51:53,291 --> 00:51:56,666 My conclusion was, you know, 851 00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:59,749 the officer did what he had to do 852 00:51:59,750 --> 00:52:02,125 to protect himself. 853 00:52:04,792 --> 00:52:09,083 I see a situation that is... 854 00:52:09,583 --> 00:52:12,165 gotten away. 855 00:52:12,166 --> 00:52:15,083 I don't know... 856 00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:19,999 where everybody's head is at 857 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,833 in that situation. 858 00:52:21,834 --> 00:52:23,749 There's a knife. 859 00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:25,749 I'm sorry, but that's a threat. 860 00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:29,165 If somebody gets near you, within 21 feet of you, 861 00:52:29,166 --> 00:52:31,833 with an open knife, 862 00:52:31,834 --> 00:52:33,165 you could die. 863 00:52:33,166 --> 00:52:36,958 As you saw, and I've seen, 864 00:52:36,959 --> 00:52:39,624 Laquan McDonald was murdered. 865 00:52:39,625 --> 00:52:43,290 This family wants justice to be served, and justice for us 866 00:52:43,291 --> 00:52:46,791 is Jason Van Dyke being convicted of the murder 867 00:52:46,792 --> 00:52:49,333 of Laquan McDonald. 868 00:52:51,333 --> 00:52:53,791 Officer Jason Van Dyke started shooting 869 00:52:53,792 --> 00:52:56,332 six seconds after he got out of his vehicle. 870 00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:58,374 McDonald was walking away from the arriving 871 00:52:58,375 --> 00:53:00,874 police vehicles when the shooting happened. 872 00:53:00,875 --> 00:53:04,499 The officer fired 16 shots in just 15 seconds. 873 00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:06,749 The city and the unions did not tell 874 00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:08,332 the truth about what happened. 875 00:53:08,333 --> 00:53:10,833 The Mayor's Office lied for months about 876 00:53:10,834 --> 00:53:13,375 what's in the video. 877 00:53:15,709 --> 00:53:17,416 At this point, we saw the utter breakdown 878 00:53:17,417 --> 00:53:19,165 of the machinery. 879 00:53:19,166 --> 00:53:21,958 They don't have control of the narrative, 880 00:53:21,959 --> 00:53:25,541 and so sources within the city and the police department, 881 00:53:25,542 --> 00:53:30,040 who have stonewalled the press in response to every single 882 00:53:30,041 --> 00:53:32,916 question about this case, 883 00:53:32,917 --> 00:53:35,582 start leaking information 884 00:53:35,583 --> 00:53:38,916 that is derogatory towards the victim. 885 00:53:38,917 --> 00:53:41,332 McDonald was known to have been carrying knife. 886 00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:43,457 This was a troubled, troubled boy. 887 00:53:43,458 --> 00:53:45,582 - A ward of the state. - The tragedy of this 888 00:53:45,583 --> 00:53:48,499 young man's life led to him making these bad decisions. 889 00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:51,416 - It's truly not a murder case. - PCP in his system. 890 00:53:51,417 --> 00:53:54,416 - PCP in his system. - PCP, which, is a 891 00:53:54,417 --> 00:53:56,958 psychotic drug, whi- makes you go crazy. 892 00:53:56,959 --> 00:54:01,165 You don't see anybody willing to admit that 893 00:54:01,166 --> 00:54:05,374 what we have to do is go after that monster, 894 00:54:05,375 --> 00:54:08,040 the guy that doesn't belong on the street with you, 895 00:54:08,041 --> 00:54:11,833 with my wife, with my daughter. 896 00:54:11,834 --> 00:54:16,249 This isn't an Ivy League college kid we're talkin'. 897 00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:19,958 We're not talking to an Oxford Scholar. 898 00:54:19,959 --> 00:54:22,999 Laquan McDonald could've had a Oxford sweatshirt on 899 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,249 and it wouldn't have made a difference whatsoever. 900 00:54:26,250 --> 00:54:28,582 I don't care if he was on PCP. 901 00:54:28,583 --> 00:54:32,457 I don't... I don't care if Laquan McDonald was high, 902 00:54:32,458 --> 00:54:36,124 if he, um, was aggitational. 903 00:54:36,125 --> 00:54:38,332 He was shot 16 times. 904 00:54:38,333 --> 00:54:40,125 One... 905 00:54:43,291 --> 00:54:46,208 two, three... 906 00:54:47,333 --> 00:54:49,667 four... 907 00:54:53,125 --> 00:54:55,542 five... 908 00:54:56,166 --> 00:54:58,250 six, seven... 909 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,666 eight, nine... 910 00:55:02,667 --> 00:55:06,500 ten, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. 911 00:55:07,333 --> 00:55:11,040 He was shot 16 times. 912 00:55:11,041 --> 00:55:14,374 16 shots - Shut it down! 913 00:55:14,375 --> 00:55:17,833 For some, he was their son, 914 00:55:17,834 --> 00:55:19,582 he was their brother, 915 00:55:19,583 --> 00:55:21,249 he was them. 916 00:55:21,250 --> 00:55:23,874 16 shots! 16 shots! 917 00:55:23,875 --> 00:55:25,165 You know how many times I ran from 918 00:55:25,166 --> 00:55:28,457 the police growing up? In this city? 919 00:55:28,458 --> 00:55:30,290 How many times that I was put in the position where 920 00:55:30,291 --> 00:55:32,499 Chicago police pull guns on me? 921 00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:35,082 So when I saw Laquan, I saw me. 922 00:55:35,083 --> 00:55:37,999 - They're still shopping! - Shut it down! 923 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,833 Shut the stores down! 924 00:55:39,834 --> 00:55:41,708 - Block the store! - Shut it down! 925 00:55:41,709 --> 00:55:44,290 - Go to the store! - Protests paralyzing. 926 00:55:44,291 --> 00:55:46,290 - Black Friday shopping. - One of the busiest, 927 00:55:46,291 --> 00:55:48,708 if not the busiest shopping day of the year. 928 00:55:48,709 --> 00:55:51,332 We hit the streets hard. Very hard. 929 00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,457 And we stop their money. 930 00:55:53,458 --> 00:55:56,207 If we disrupt their money, we disrupt their politics. 931 00:55:56,208 --> 00:55:58,290 We had probably one of the most powerful economic 932 00:55:58,291 --> 00:56:01,708 protests this city has ever seen. 933 00:56:01,709 --> 00:56:03,374 The county of Cook came together, 934 00:56:03,375 --> 00:56:04,958 and they stood with this family. And they said 935 00:56:04,959 --> 00:56:06,833 that this is wrong. 936 00:56:06,834 --> 00:56:09,207 This is wrong. 937 00:56:09,208 --> 00:56:12,040 16 shots! 16 shots! 938 00:56:12,041 --> 00:56:15,249 16 shots!, 16 shots!, 939 00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:17,542 16 shots!, 16 shots!, 16 shots! 940 00:56:23,458 --> 00:56:25,916 We are here today 941 00:56:25,917 --> 00:56:29,249 because Chicago is facing a defining moment 942 00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:32,290 on the issues of crime 943 00:56:32,291 --> 00:56:35,250 and policing. 944 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:38,999 The first line of defense is denial. 945 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,916 The next thing is "One bad apple." 946 00:56:42,917 --> 00:56:46,666 But now, the entire guts of the department were exposed. 947 00:56:46,667 --> 00:56:51,874 Nothing can excuse what happened to Laquan McDonald. 948 00:56:51,875 --> 00:56:57,249 Supervision and leadership in the police department... 949 00:56:57,250 --> 00:56:59,082 failed. 950 00:56:59,083 --> 00:57:01,582 And that has to change. 951 00:57:01,583 --> 00:57:05,791 No officer should be allowed to behave 952 00:57:05,792 --> 00:57:08,207 as if they are above the law 953 00:57:08,208 --> 00:57:10,624 just because they are responsible 954 00:57:10,625 --> 00:57:13,207 for upholding the law. 955 00:57:13,208 --> 00:57:16,624 The problem is sometimes referred to 956 00:57:16,625 --> 00:57:19,958 as "the Code of Silence." 957 00:57:19,959 --> 00:57:22,958 Mayor Emanuel has acknowledged a code of silence 958 00:57:22,959 --> 00:57:25,207 exists in the Chicago Police Department. 959 00:57:25,208 --> 00:57:26,874 - He acknowledged it. - He acknowledges a problem 960 00:57:26,875 --> 00:57:28,958 that others have vehemently denied. 961 00:57:28,959 --> 00:57:31,124 - We now have an admission... - The Chief of the Police Union 962 00:57:31,125 --> 00:57:34,624 declared today, "There is no 'Code of Silence' in Chicago." 963 00:57:34,625 --> 00:57:39,624 After all," he said, "this is not 1950." 964 00:57:39,625 --> 00:57:41,999 So you're saying that I'm a liar 965 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,791 because I got a police patch on my shoulder. 966 00:57:45,792 --> 00:57:49,666 Or I can't be trusted when I raise my hand in court. 967 00:57:49,667 --> 00:57:52,916 To ask for us to admit 968 00:57:52,917 --> 00:57:56,999 that we go out of our way to conspire... 969 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,207 is... is an insult. 970 00:57:59,208 --> 00:58:00,791 If there is no "Code of Silence," 971 00:58:00,792 --> 00:58:03,582 why do all the officer statements look the same? 972 00:58:03,583 --> 00:58:06,958 You got me. And I got to be honest with you now, 973 00:58:06,959 --> 00:58:09,666 I do not like 974 00:58:09,667 --> 00:58:13,833 the way we're going with this interview. 975 00:58:13,834 --> 00:58:16,332 The Mayor said, "The 'Code of Silence'" 976 00:58:16,333 --> 00:58:20,165 goes through the police department." 977 00:58:20,166 --> 00:58:21,833 Nonsense. 978 00:58:21,834 --> 00:58:24,332 The Mayor controls the police department. 979 00:58:24,333 --> 00:58:26,290 You tell me what it means. 980 00:58:26,291 --> 00:58:28,290 Will you resign? Should you resign? 981 00:58:28,291 --> 00:58:30,874 I'm not gonna resign. Um, and... and 982 00:58:30,875 --> 00:58:34,290 I go all day long with people coming up to me and saying, 983 00:58:34,291 --> 00:58:36,207 "Stay strong. We've got your back." 984 00:58:36,208 --> 00:58:39,499 Superintendent McCarthy knows that a police officer 985 00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:41,499 is only as effective as when he has 986 00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:44,040 the trust of those he serves. 987 00:58:44,041 --> 00:58:48,624 This morning, I formally asked for his resignation. 988 00:58:48,625 --> 00:58:52,457 I become accountable for things that I'm not in control of. 989 00:58:52,458 --> 00:58:56,250 And accountability without authority is failure. 990 00:58:57,250 --> 00:59:03,374 16 years of really strong executive leadership. 991 00:59:03,375 --> 00:59:05,749 I really thought that I was going to be 992 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:08,207 one of the individuals that helped... 993 00:59:08,208 --> 00:59:10,416 That would help take policing through 994 00:59:10,417 --> 00:59:12,958 the most troubled time in its history. 995 00:59:12,959 --> 00:59:16,207 Uh, and instead, here I am on the sidelines, 996 00:59:16,208 --> 00:59:21,082 watching it. Watching it spiral out of control. 997 00:59:21,083 --> 00:59:24,291 We're reaching mayhem. 998 00:59:39,667 --> 00:59:41,290 The Mayor announced the formation 999 00:59:41,291 --> 00:59:43,708 - of a task force... - To help restore public 1000 00:59:43,709 --> 00:59:46,416 trust and confidence in the police, 1001 00:59:46,417 --> 00:59:49,333 that are now sorely lacking. 1002 01:00:05,792 --> 01:00:07,791 We believe that these meetings, 1003 01:00:07,792 --> 01:00:09,582 uh... serve a very valuable purpose. 1004 01:00:09,583 --> 01:00:11,207 We've had them all over the city, 1005 01:00:11,208 --> 01:00:13,124 the West side, the South side. 1006 01:00:13,125 --> 01:00:15,332 And we will call on those who have signed up 1007 01:00:15,333 --> 01:00:18,124 in advance to speak so that we can provide 1008 01:00:18,125 --> 01:00:22,249 as much time as possible for public comment. 1009 01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:24,207 Janée. 1010 01:00:24,208 --> 01:00:26,542 Hi, Janée. How are you? 1011 01:00:33,250 --> 01:00:34,791 This didn't happen 1012 01:00:34,792 --> 01:00:37,624 because Laquan McDonald was shot 16 times, right? 1013 01:00:37,625 --> 01:00:40,834 This only happened after a year of a cover-up. 1014 01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:05,917 Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! 1015 01:01:13,375 --> 01:01:15,958 You can never bring Laquan McDonald back. 1016 01:01:15,959 --> 01:01:18,207 One of the things that we can do, though, is hold people 1017 01:01:18,208 --> 01:01:21,165 that knew about this that covered it up accountable. 1018 01:01:21,166 --> 01:01:25,040 The State's Attorney, who has participated in the cover-up 1019 01:01:25,041 --> 01:01:27,667 of Laquan McDonald, should be held accountable. 1020 01:01:49,166 --> 01:01:54,499 I, too, do not have confidence in Ms. Anita Alvarez. 1021 01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:56,416 I have it on extreme good authority 1022 01:01:56,417 --> 01:02:01,249 that Mayor Emanuel's strategic political advisors, 1023 01:02:01,250 --> 01:02:04,749 They met day... the next day or two days after 1024 01:02:04,750 --> 01:02:07,916 I announced charges to discuss the fact 1025 01:02:07,917 --> 01:02:11,290 that they were all going to somehow 1026 01:02:11,291 --> 01:02:14,874 point the finger at me to distract 1027 01:02:14,875 --> 01:02:18,416 any kind of criticism of the Mayor. 1028 01:02:18,417 --> 01:02:22,040 David Axelrod, one of the chief political strategists 1029 01:02:22,041 --> 01:02:24,416 in this country, coming from the White House 1030 01:02:24,417 --> 01:02:29,749 and working with Rahm Emanuel, starts tweeting about me. 1031 01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:31,791 And it was so convenient now, 1032 01:02:31,792 --> 01:02:34,999 because he barely won his re-election, 1033 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,958 they didn't want him to be beat up, 1034 01:02:36,959 --> 01:02:39,374 they didn't want him to be criticized, and suddenly, 1035 01:02:39,375 --> 01:02:42,290 I take the brunt of all of this, 1036 01:02:42,291 --> 01:02:46,165 and I get portrayed as some kind of monster. 1037 01:02:46,166 --> 01:02:48,541 Anita Alvarez is still leading in the polls. 1038 01:02:48,542 --> 01:02:50,999 I remember the election day, just, like, 1039 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,959 wanting to throw up. 1040 01:03:01,291 --> 01:03:03,457 My daughters were with me and my husband 1041 01:03:03,458 --> 01:03:08,541 and my brother was there. 1042 01:03:08,542 --> 01:03:13,125 And the room was packed, and it was hot. 1043 01:03:25,917 --> 01:03:30,333 Kim Foxx! Kim Foxx! Kim Foxx! Kim Foxx! 1044 01:03:33,208 --> 01:03:36,417 And my first thought was... 1045 01:03:38,291 --> 01:03:42,332 Dang it. My mother and my grandmother would be so proud. 1046 01:03:42,333 --> 01:03:46,332 This race is not so much just about saying "Goodbye." 1047 01:03:46,333 --> 01:03:48,999 It's about turning the page, and I understand the 1048 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,999 excitement. 1049 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,624 I understand the excitement, but let us not get lost 1050 01:03:53,625 --> 01:03:56,040 in the gravity of the work that is ahead of us. 1051 01:03:56,041 --> 01:03:59,499 My second thought was... 1052 01:03:59,500 --> 01:04:02,541 "Don't fuck it up." 1053 01:04:02,542 --> 01:04:05,290 The Black Lives movement and related protest groups 1054 01:04:05,291 --> 01:04:06,582 are claiming credit. 1055 01:04:06,583 --> 01:04:08,541 First, it was Superintendent Garry McCarthy. 1056 01:04:08,542 --> 01:04:10,582 Last night, Anita Alvarez. 1057 01:04:10,583 --> 01:04:14,624 - Two down! - One to go! 1058 01:04:14,625 --> 01:04:16,958 I will still hold Kim Foxx accountable 1059 01:04:16,959 --> 01:04:21,709 if her actions don't align with her rhetoric, for sure. 1060 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,666 Almost overnight, the power and legitimacy 1061 01:04:25,667 --> 01:04:27,916 of city institutions... 1062 01:04:27,917 --> 01:04:29,332 cratered. 1063 01:04:29,333 --> 01:04:31,667 Utterly cratered. 1064 01:04:34,375 --> 01:04:37,791 And that creates this unprecedented opportunity 1065 01:04:37,792 --> 01:04:42,457 in Chicago and nationally for real police reform. 1066 01:04:42,458 --> 01:04:45,207 But a backlash was also building. 1067 01:04:45,208 --> 01:04:47,249 Repeat after me. 1068 01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:49,082 I, having been appointed to the office 1069 01:04:49,083 --> 01:04:51,457 - of the police officer... - I, having been appointed 1070 01:04:51,458 --> 01:04:53,290 to the office of the police officer... 1071 01:04:53,291 --> 01:04:55,499 - to the City of Chicago. - To the City of Chicago. 1072 01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:57,624 Police are the sheepdogs, 1073 01:04:57,625 --> 01:05:02,582 the protectors of the flock from the wolves 1074 01:05:02,583 --> 01:05:05,040 that exist in society. 1075 01:05:05,041 --> 01:05:06,624 That I will support the Constitution 1076 01:05:06,625 --> 01:05:08,582 - of the United States. - And the Constitution 1077 01:05:08,583 --> 01:05:12,416 - of the State of Illinois. - The problem becomes 1078 01:05:12,417 --> 01:05:16,916 the sheepdog looks very much like a wolf. 1079 01:05:16,917 --> 01:05:19,582 They keep going after the police. 1080 01:05:19,583 --> 01:05:21,499 The police are the bad guys. 1081 01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:24,582 "Hey, we got a video. He was wrong. 1082 01:05:24,583 --> 01:05:26,416 Charge him with murder." 1083 01:05:26,417 --> 01:05:27,708 Charge him with murder? 1084 01:05:27,709 --> 01:05:30,791 What are you talking about? 1085 01:05:30,792 --> 01:05:35,207 We can jump back to Baltimore, Freddie Gray, 1086 01:05:35,208 --> 01:05:37,875 Ferguson... 1087 01:05:39,291 --> 01:05:42,792 Eric Garner in New York. 1088 01:05:43,959 --> 01:05:46,290 How many people were convicted? 1089 01:05:46,291 --> 01:05:48,791 The grand jury has just decided not to indict 1090 01:05:48,792 --> 01:05:52,499 a New York City police officer over the death of Eric Garner. 1091 01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:54,916 All six Baltimore police officers 1092 01:05:54,917 --> 01:05:56,249 charged in the death of Freddie Gray 1093 01:05:56,250 --> 01:05:57,708 have been cleared. 1094 01:05:57,709 --> 01:06:01,166 There is going to be no indictment. 1095 01:06:02,125 --> 01:06:06,709 I'm reminded of Rodney King. 1096 01:06:08,166 --> 01:06:10,958 What the country needs to look at is 1097 01:06:10,959 --> 01:06:13,709 how it plays out in court. 1098 01:06:16,834 --> 01:06:18,958 Am I gonna win this case? 1099 01:06:18,959 --> 01:06:21,124 Come on, people. Make a hole! 1100 01:06:21,125 --> 01:06:23,624 I will tell you after I pick the jury 1101 01:06:23,625 --> 01:06:26,083 what my odds are. 1102 01:06:42,291 --> 01:06:44,666 It was a tense time. It was a tense time 1103 01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:47,208 while we was waiting. 1104 01:06:48,709 --> 01:06:53,249 All these cases where we've seen African-Americans 1105 01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:56,833 killed o... on camera. 1106 01:06:56,834 --> 01:06:59,791 Alton Sterling, on-camera. 1107 01:06:59,792 --> 01:07:02,750 Eric Garner, on-camera. 1108 01:07:04,208 --> 01:07:09,208 So was I nervous? Yeah, I was nervous. 1109 01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:12,541 We want justice for all the names and every... 1110 01:07:12,542 --> 01:07:16,165 Every life that was taken by Chicago Police Department. 1111 01:07:16,166 --> 01:07:18,749 This corruption runs deep. It runs deep. 1112 01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:21,541 It'll be four years since Laquan's been shot, man. 1113 01:07:21,542 --> 01:07:24,040 And we still haven't got any type of justice 1114 01:07:24,041 --> 01:07:25,374 for Laquan McDonald. 1115 01:07:25,375 --> 01:07:28,916 And I'm not gonna stop until we get justice. 1116 01:07:28,917 --> 01:07:31,416 - Say 16 shots! - 16 shots! 1117 01:07:31,417 --> 01:07:34,582 - 16 shots! - 16 shots! 1118 01:07:34,583 --> 01:07:36,833 - 16 shots and a cover-up! - What? 1119 01:07:36,834 --> 01:07:39,833 - 16 shots and a cover-up! - What? 1120 01:07:39,834 --> 01:07:43,207 Laquan McDonald was shot 16 times 1121 01:07:43,208 --> 01:07:46,708 by police officer Jason Van Dyke, and he died. 1122 01:07:46,709 --> 01:07:48,040 That... That happened. 1123 01:07:48,041 --> 01:07:51,416 Was he murdered? Or was he killed? 1124 01:07:51,417 --> 01:07:55,082 Did a child die? Or did a suspect die? 1125 01:07:55,083 --> 01:07:56,749 All of those things are dependent 1126 01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:58,792 on how we respond. 1127 01:08:05,166 --> 01:08:07,040 Going to jail, 1128 01:08:07,041 --> 01:08:10,666 the whole damn system is guilty as hell. 1129 01:08:10,667 --> 01:08:14,749 I braced myself for a "not guilty" verdict. 1130 01:08:14,750 --> 01:08:18,124 I didn't even think about the possibility 1131 01:08:18,125 --> 01:08:20,290 of any police officer being found guilty 1132 01:08:20,291 --> 01:08:23,125 in the killing of a black person. 1133 01:08:23,667 --> 01:08:27,249 We did a rally here the day before the trial. 1134 01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:30,416 One of the reporters had pulled me to the side. 1135 01:08:30,417 --> 01:08:33,290 "I want to ask you something but I want to get your 1136 01:08:33,291 --> 01:08:37,083 response while I ask you." 1137 01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:39,958 I remember just freezing. 1138 01:08:39,959 --> 01:08:41,374 Breaking news from City Hall, 1139 01:08:41,375 --> 01:08:44,290 and a bombshell announcement from Mayor Rahm Emanuel 1140 01:08:44,291 --> 01:08:46,916 during a news conference just moments ago. 1141 01:08:46,917 --> 01:08:48,791 As much as I love this job 1142 01:08:48,792 --> 01:08:52,124 and will always love this city and its residents, 1143 01:08:52,125 --> 01:08:54,332 I have decided not to seek re-election. 1144 01:08:54,333 --> 01:08:56,332 The announcement from Mayor Rahm Emanuel 1145 01:08:56,333 --> 01:08:58,165 that caught most of Chicago off-guard. 1146 01:08:58,166 --> 01:08:59,666 Sources close to the Mayor said they were 1147 01:08:59,667 --> 01:09:03,332 95% sure he would run for re-election. 1148 01:09:03,333 --> 01:09:05,165 Today, we saw the 5%. 1149 01:09:05,166 --> 01:09:06,958 Garry McCarthy gone, 1150 01:09:06,959 --> 01:09:09,040 Anita Alvarez gone, 1151 01:09:09,041 --> 01:09:11,332 now Rahm Emanuel gone. 1152 01:09:11,333 --> 01:09:13,874 This is the former Chief of Staff 1153 01:09:13,875 --> 01:09:17,791 for the 44th President of the United States. 1154 01:09:17,792 --> 01:09:20,499 I mean, that's heavy. 1155 01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:22,124 Emanuel made no mention 1156 01:09:22,125 --> 01:09:24,416 of the looming trial of Jason Van Dyke. 1157 01:09:24,417 --> 01:09:26,624 Van Dyke is charged with first-degree murder 1158 01:09:26,625 --> 01:09:30,249 and 16 counts of aggravated battery with a firearm, 1159 01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:33,583 a count for each time he shot McDonald. 1160 01:09:34,667 --> 01:09:38,708 There was quite a euphoric mood on the street. 1161 01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:42,332 The trial finally beginning and then the Mayor's announcement... 1162 01:09:42,333 --> 01:09:43,708 The judge and jury expected to hear 1163 01:09:43,709 --> 01:09:45,916 opening statements in the long-awaited trial 1164 01:09:45,917 --> 01:09:49,583 of Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke. 1165 01:09:51,291 --> 01:09:55,457 That first day, you could feel the tension in the room. 1166 01:09:55,458 --> 01:09:59,374 I just wanted to be there, um... as a means of support 1167 01:09:59,375 --> 01:10:01,999 and to demonstrate to the officers out there 1168 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,374 in the vehicles that somebody is 1169 01:10:04,375 --> 01:10:06,834 standing with this kid. 1170 01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:10,207 It was intense. You had one side that was. 1171 01:10:10,208 --> 01:10:14,624 Laquan's family, community members, and supporters. 1172 01:10:14,625 --> 01:10:17,249 And then, you had another side, which was 1173 01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:19,624 Jason Van Dyke's family 1174 01:10:19,625 --> 01:10:22,916 and Fraternal Order of Police union members, 1175 01:10:22,917 --> 01:10:25,166 and supporters. 1176 01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:29,749 The courtroom is the stage. 1177 01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:31,332 It's literally a stage. 1178 01:10:31,333 --> 01:10:35,750 The jury is a kind of silent Greek chorus. 1179 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,791 You knew it made history. 1180 01:10:37,792 --> 01:10:39,749 For a Chicago police to be on trial 1181 01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:42,749 in the first place for murder, number one. 1182 01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:45,541 And for murdering a black person, number two. 1183 01:10:45,542 --> 01:10:49,207 I was like, "Okay, how are they gonna perceive me?" 1184 01:10:49,208 --> 01:10:51,582 Since I was the only black. 1185 01:10:51,583 --> 01:10:53,249 It was like, oh my God... 1186 01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:55,666 They introduce you to the defense team, 1187 01:10:55,667 --> 01:10:57,457 and the prosecution team, 1188 01:10:57,458 --> 01:11:00,499 and you're going, "Wow, this is for real." 1189 01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:02,040 But it doesn't... It didn't feel real. 1190 01:11:02,041 --> 01:11:04,124 It felt surreal. So many times, 1191 01:11:04,125 --> 01:11:07,625 it felt surreal. 1192 01:11:16,625 --> 01:11:17,500 This branch of the Circuit Court 1193 01:11:17,501 --> 01:11:20,000 of Cook County is now in session. 1194 01:11:21,458 --> 01:11:24,457 This courtroom was packed. It was filled. 1195 01:11:24,458 --> 01:11:26,249 People were stuffed in there, 1196 01:11:26,250 --> 01:11:29,375 and you could've heard a pin drop. 1197 01:11:31,291 --> 01:11:34,290 The silence was deafening. 1198 01:11:34,291 --> 01:11:37,207 The story in this case 1199 01:11:37,208 --> 01:11:40,290 is a story written, 1200 01:11:40,291 --> 01:11:45,165 directed, and orchestrated by one person: 1201 01:11:45,166 --> 01:11:47,500 Laquan McDonald. 1202 01:11:48,667 --> 01:11:50,416 Think about it like a horror movie. 1203 01:11:50,417 --> 01:11:54,040 You see the villain walking down the street. 1204 01:11:54,041 --> 01:11:56,290 Not very fearful, but when he stops and he turns 1205 01:11:56,291 --> 01:12:00,290 and makes eye contact with the victim, 1206 01:12:00,291 --> 01:12:02,499 then that's when the music starts to play. 1207 01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:04,666 Well, that's what happened here. 1208 01:12:04,667 --> 01:12:06,666 We filed a motion, and actually, 1209 01:12:06,667 --> 01:12:10,040 that motion was granted, that the prosecution 1210 01:12:10,041 --> 01:12:13,332 cannot refer to Laquan McDonald as a "victim." 1211 01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:15,833 Laquan McDonald was, uh, was an offender 1212 01:12:15,834 --> 01:12:19,708 in this case and was a dangerous person. 1213 01:12:19,709 --> 01:12:23,499 Laquan McDonald goes over to him... and attempts to stab. 1214 01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,207 I remember that Laquan was in and out of 1215 01:12:26,208 --> 01:12:29,374 juvenile detention, um... 1216 01:12:29,375 --> 01:12:31,999 Had several scrapes with the law. 1217 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,958 Um, so they were setting him up to... 1218 01:12:34,959 --> 01:12:37,082 To look like a... a bad guy, 1219 01:12:37,083 --> 01:12:39,290 a... a kid gone wrong. 1220 01:12:39,291 --> 01:12:43,833 Shows the story of a out-of-control individual 1221 01:12:43,834 --> 01:12:45,874 who didn't care about anyone. 1222 01:12:45,875 --> 01:12:48,958 It was classic putting the victim on trial. 1223 01:12:48,959 --> 01:12:50,541 That's all it was. It was jus... 1224 01:12:50,542 --> 01:12:54,541 It was classic. That's what they always do. 1225 01:12:54,542 --> 01:12:58,499 I didn't ever f... think of it that way, 1226 01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:00,207 that he's putting the victim on trial. 1227 01:13:00,208 --> 01:13:01,749 I didn't think of it that way. 1228 01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:03,999 I just thought of it as that he was 1229 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,541 raising serious questions and... 1230 01:13:06,542 --> 01:13:10,124 And hoping that maybe some of the jurors would think, 1231 01:13:10,125 --> 01:13:12,624 "You know, this kid was so rotten and bad," 1232 01:13:12,625 --> 01:13:15,249 of course he was about ready to, uh, 1233 01:13:15,250 --> 01:13:17,541 "run after Jason." 1234 01:13:17,542 --> 01:13:19,416 I don't care how you twist this thing around, 1235 01:13:19,417 --> 01:13:21,582 how you turn it around, 1236 01:13:21,583 --> 01:13:23,374 Van Dyke is not the victim. 1237 01:13:23,375 --> 01:13:25,624 The victim is in the cemetery. 1238 01:13:25,625 --> 01:13:27,417 That's the victim. 1239 01:13:45,250 --> 01:13:46,916 I sat on the right side. 1240 01:13:46,917 --> 01:13:52,332 So about two rows were full of F.O.P. union members, right? 1241 01:13:52,333 --> 01:13:55,124 Right when they was about to call Officer McElligott 1242 01:13:55,125 --> 01:13:59,249 names out, the whole two rows got up and walked out. 1243 01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:03,833 J-O-S-E-P-H M-C-E-L-L-I-G-O-T-T. 1244 01:14:03,834 --> 01:14:06,082 And by whom are you employed, sir? 1245 01:14:06,083 --> 01:14:08,791 Chicago Police Department. 1246 01:14:08,792 --> 01:14:11,958 He's called to the stand and he's clearly 1247 01:14:11,959 --> 01:14:14,332 not happy to be there. 1248 01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:17,916 He's the initial responder the night of the incident. 1249 01:14:17,917 --> 01:14:20,749 And when he takes the stand, it's the first time the public 1250 01:14:20,750 --> 01:14:23,290 has heard a police officer describe what happened 1251 01:14:23,291 --> 01:14:25,833 - that night. - On October 20th, 1252 01:14:25,834 --> 01:14:29,833 did you respond to a dispatch call? 1253 01:14:29,834 --> 01:14:32,000 Yes. 1254 01:14:36,417 --> 01:14:38,207 There was a 911 call that 1255 01:14:38,208 --> 01:14:40,165 someone's been trying to break into trucks 1256 01:14:40,166 --> 01:14:41,833 in a truck yard. 1257 01:14:41,834 --> 01:14:43,499 He took his hands out of his pockets 1258 01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:46,499 and he had a knife in his hand. 1259 01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:48,708 Did he do anything with that knife? 1260 01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:50,874 He just held it. 1261 01:14:50,875 --> 01:14:53,124 They ask the boy to drop the knife, 1262 01:14:53,125 --> 01:14:54,999 he doesn't respond. 1263 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,916 As opposed to ratcheting up the encounter, 1264 01:14:57,917 --> 01:15:00,166 they call for a taser. 1265 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,165 They don't ask for massive backup, they ask for a taser. 1266 01:15:05,166 --> 01:15:06,833 I just kept my distance. 1267 01:15:06,834 --> 01:15:09,708 I had my flashlight out and I had my gun out on him, 1268 01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:11,709 just watched his move. 1269 01:15:13,875 --> 01:15:16,124 There's a second video that 1270 01:15:16,125 --> 01:15:19,040 has not been widely seen. 1271 01:15:19,041 --> 01:15:21,374 It's surveillance video from a couple of blocks 1272 01:15:21,375 --> 01:15:25,457 from the site of the shooting. 1273 01:15:25,458 --> 01:15:28,249 McElligott's gotten out of the police vehicle 1274 01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:31,916 and is walking behind Laquan McDonald. 1275 01:15:31,917 --> 01:15:33,874 There's nobody else around, they're not 1276 01:15:33,875 --> 01:15:37,416 protecting anybody from him. 1277 01:15:37,417 --> 01:15:39,999 There's certainly no evidence of anything combative 1278 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,374 on the part of Laquan McDonald, 1279 01:15:42,375 --> 01:15:44,749 but nor is there anything provocative about 1280 01:15:44,750 --> 01:15:46,833 the behavior of the officers. 1281 01:15:46,834 --> 01:15:48,791 Did he threaten you with the knife? 1282 01:15:48,792 --> 01:15:51,582 No. Uh, we walked... 1283 01:15:51,583 --> 01:15:55,207 all the way to the car lot. 1284 01:15:55,208 --> 01:15:57,457 In fact, these officers are 1285 01:15:57,458 --> 01:16:00,958 accompanying Laquan McDonald towards his death. 1286 01:16:00,959 --> 01:16:05,083 They don't know it. He doesn't know it. 1287 01:16:07,583 --> 01:16:08,916 Moments later, 1288 01:16:08,917 --> 01:16:10,708 Van Dyke gets out of his car, 1289 01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:14,792 and within a matter of seconds, has shot the boy. 1290 01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:19,207 They're standing there witnessing 1291 01:16:19,208 --> 01:16:21,667 a gratuitous atrocity. 1292 01:16:26,083 --> 01:16:29,792 Why didn't you fire your weapon? 1293 01:16:31,792 --> 01:16:37,291 Um... He didn't make any direct movement at me, 1294 01:16:37,792 --> 01:16:40,624 and I felt like my partner was protected, 1295 01:16:40,625 --> 01:16:44,792 for the most part, inside the vehicle. 1296 01:16:51,792 --> 01:16:54,958 I mean, you're the police. 1297 01:16:54,959 --> 01:16:59,082 In my day, that kid never gets to Pulaski. 1298 01:16:59,083 --> 01:17:01,416 Never. You know? 1299 01:17:01,417 --> 01:17:04,791 You take him, somehow, 1300 01:17:04,792 --> 01:17:07,499 when he's leaving that truck yard. 1301 01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:09,749 He never gets that far. 1302 01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:11,666 So if McElligott had done his job, 1303 01:17:11,667 --> 01:17:14,416 none of this would have happened? 1304 01:17:14,417 --> 01:17:16,833 You know, what McElligott does or doesn't do 1305 01:17:16,834 --> 01:17:19,541 turns into what we have on Pulaski. 1306 01:17:19,542 --> 01:17:22,374 They look at them as a rat. 1307 01:17:22,375 --> 01:17:25,624 Or traitors, you know? 1308 01:17:25,625 --> 01:17:28,624 For not maintaining this Blue Code of Silence 1309 01:17:28,625 --> 01:17:31,958 inside the Chicago Police Department. 1310 01:17:31,959 --> 01:17:33,457 Were you surprised to see officers 1311 01:17:33,458 --> 01:17:36,165 breaking rank to testify? 1312 01:17:36,166 --> 01:17:39,332 Yeah, I was. 1313 01:17:39,333 --> 01:17:41,834 I was shocked. 1314 01:17:49,792 --> 01:17:51,374 The trial of a white police officer 1315 01:17:51,375 --> 01:17:52,999 charged with murdering a black teenager 1316 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,833 - resumes today. - Of course, there are a lot 1317 01:17:54,834 --> 01:17:56,874 a lot of crucial decisions that need to be made, 1318 01:17:56,875 --> 01:17:59,708 including whether Jason Van Dyke will testify 1319 01:17:59,709 --> 01:18:02,207 - on his own behalf. - The defense still has not said 1320 01:18:02,208 --> 01:18:04,374 whether Van Dyke himself will take the stand. 1321 01:18:04,375 --> 01:18:07,290 Jason Van Dyke, taking the stand in his own defense. 1322 01:18:07,291 --> 01:18:10,457 It doesn't happen very often. 1323 01:18:10,458 --> 01:18:12,874 I mean, I was a prosecutor. 1324 01:18:12,875 --> 01:18:15,624 You know, I recognize the significance of 1325 01:18:15,625 --> 01:18:19,666 a defendant taking a witness stand. 1326 01:18:19,667 --> 01:18:21,791 But we knew, at that point in time, 1327 01:18:21,792 --> 01:18:24,332 that jury had to hear from Jason Van Dyke. 1328 01:18:24,333 --> 01:18:26,833 And Jason Van Dyke had to convince them 1329 01:18:26,834 --> 01:18:30,207 that he was not guilty of first-degree murder. 1330 01:18:30,208 --> 01:18:34,416 Right before Jason testified, I literally 1331 01:18:34,417 --> 01:18:37,082 sweat through my shirt, 1332 01:18:37,083 --> 01:18:40,582 because I was so nervous about his testimony. 1333 01:18:40,583 --> 01:18:45,290 Jason Van Dyke. V-A-N D-Y-K-E. 1334 01:18:45,291 --> 01:18:46,874 How old are you, Jason? 1335 01:18:46,875 --> 01:18:49,458 I'm 40 years old. 1336 01:18:51,083 --> 01:18:53,541 We were staring at each other. 1337 01:18:53,542 --> 01:18:55,124 He told me, he says, "You know", 1338 01:18:55,125 --> 01:18:58,124 I was watching you, looking at you when I was testifying." 1339 01:18:58,125 --> 01:18:59,582 Which kind of gave me the... 1340 01:18:59,583 --> 01:19:00,708 I knew he was, 1341 01:19:00,709 --> 01:19:02,582 but he didn't have to tell me. 1342 01:19:02,583 --> 01:19:03,916 You know, we were making eye contact 1343 01:19:03,917 --> 01:19:06,040 and he was trying to relax. 1344 01:19:06,041 --> 01:19:07,582 Did you see Laquan McDonald when you got 1345 01:19:07,583 --> 01:19:09,082 - out of the car? - Yes. 1346 01:19:09,083 --> 01:19:11,916 And could you see him? His face? 1347 01:19:11,917 --> 01:19:14,999 His face had no expression. 1348 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,582 His eyes were just bugging out of his head. 1349 01:19:17,583 --> 01:19:20,541 He had just these huge... 1350 01:19:20,542 --> 01:19:24,792 wide eyes just staring right through me. 1351 01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:28,040 He turned his torso towards me. 1352 01:19:28,041 --> 01:19:32,083 And what, if anything, did he do with his arm? 1353 01:19:33,041 --> 01:19:37,290 He waved the knife from his lower right side upwards, 1354 01:19:37,291 --> 01:19:41,875 across his body towards my left shoulder. 1355 01:19:44,750 --> 01:19:47,457 And when he did that, what did you do, officer? 1356 01:19:47,458 --> 01:19:49,500 I shot him. 1357 01:19:54,375 --> 01:19:56,792 It's crocodile tears. 1358 01:19:57,792 --> 01:20:01,165 For me, it was like the audacity... 1359 01:20:01,166 --> 01:20:03,833 for you to get up there and act like you a victim. 1360 01:20:03,834 --> 01:20:06,290 For you to act like you the victim out of all of this, 1361 01:20:06,291 --> 01:20:08,207 the audacity. 1362 01:20:08,208 --> 01:20:10,666 You murdered this young man. 1363 01:20:10,667 --> 01:20:12,374 In cold blood. 1364 01:20:12,375 --> 01:20:15,666 And you have no remorse. He has no remorse. 1365 01:20:15,667 --> 01:20:17,457 I felt bad for him, you know? 1366 01:20:17,458 --> 01:20:19,582 I felt, uh, I could see him breaking up, 1367 01:20:19,583 --> 01:20:22,165 because he got confused a little bit. 1368 01:20:22,166 --> 01:20:23,666 During those six seconds, you're getting 1369 01:20:23,667 --> 01:20:27,040 closer to him, correct? 1370 01:20:27,041 --> 01:20:28,833 I now know that, yeah. I... I took a couple 1371 01:20:28,834 --> 01:20:31,332 steps towards him, yeah. 1372 01:20:31,333 --> 01:20:33,374 Well, you took more than a couple steps, 1373 01:20:33,375 --> 01:20:35,207 because you go all the way up past 1374 01:20:35,208 --> 01:20:37,833 your squad car, correct? 1375 01:20:37,834 --> 01:20:41,207 The end of your squad car? 1376 01:20:41,208 --> 01:20:42,958 I'm not sure. 1377 01:20:42,959 --> 01:20:45,457 I just killed somebody. 1378 01:20:45,458 --> 01:20:49,958 I'm from a suburb outside Chicago 1379 01:20:49,959 --> 01:20:54,207 in a very non-diverse environment I grew up in. 1380 01:20:54,208 --> 01:20:57,624 And I come into the middle of 1381 01:20:57,625 --> 01:20:59,708 the most violent city in one of the most 1382 01:20:59,709 --> 01:21:03,040 violent neighborhoods, and you're telling me 1383 01:21:03,041 --> 01:21:05,499 I should've realized I stepped 1384 01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:07,249 forward or backward? 1385 01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:10,249 I could see... 1386 01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:13,875 You know, I could s... 1387 01:21:20,083 --> 01:21:23,040 I could see him starting to push up with his left hand 1388 01:21:23,041 --> 01:21:26,040 off the ground. 1389 01:21:26,041 --> 01:21:28,416 And I see his left shoulder start to come up, 1390 01:21:28,417 --> 01:21:30,624 and I still see him holding that... that knife 1391 01:21:30,625 --> 01:21:35,082 with his right hand, not letting go of it. 1392 01:21:35,083 --> 01:21:37,040 And his eyes are still bugged out, 1393 01:21:37,041 --> 01:21:40,750 his face has got no expression on it. 1394 01:21:42,250 --> 01:21:46,749 What was so palpable with Jason Van Dyke was the... 1395 01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,874 The reality of his fear. 1396 01:21:48,875 --> 01:21:51,916 All he kind of had to stand on was his... 1397 01:21:51,917 --> 01:21:53,666 Was his fear. 1398 01:21:53,667 --> 01:21:57,416 All he could coherently say about what happened that night 1399 01:21:57,417 --> 01:22:01,250 was that he was terrified. 1400 01:22:02,583 --> 01:22:04,374 Four years after the shooting, 1401 01:22:04,375 --> 01:22:06,499 the trial and case have taken on 1402 01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:08,457 huge importance in Chicago. 1403 01:22:08,458 --> 01:22:10,624 One of the most closely-watched trials 1404 01:22:10,625 --> 01:22:12,249 in the city's history. 1405 01:22:12,250 --> 01:22:14,290 The trial of a generation threatens to set 1406 01:22:14,291 --> 01:22:16,624 a match to a racial tinderbox. 1407 01:22:16,625 --> 01:22:18,457 Now, everyone who's watching this testimony 1408 01:22:18,458 --> 01:22:21,249 kind of sees all this evidence through their own lens, 1409 01:22:21,250 --> 01:22:23,541 but really, what's going to matter is how the jurors 1410 01:22:23,542 --> 01:22:27,290 are viewing this evidence. 1411 01:22:27,291 --> 01:22:30,833 There's never been, at least in my awareness, 1412 01:22:30,834 --> 01:22:35,624 a case about which, in one sense, we knew so much. 1413 01:22:35,625 --> 01:22:38,791 But all of those facts are in 1414 01:22:38,792 --> 01:22:42,916 tension and competition with another story 1415 01:22:42,917 --> 01:22:45,499 that is extraordinarily strong, 1416 01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:49,165 seeps up from the groundwater in our society, 1417 01:22:49,166 --> 01:22:53,332 and is based less on evidence than on fear. 1418 01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:55,958 Remember? We talked about this in opening. 1419 01:22:55,959 --> 01:22:57,749 I said, "Think about a monster movie." 1420 01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:59,749 When they're walking down the street, 1421 01:22:59,750 --> 01:23:02,582 and let's say there's... the... the victim is 1422 01:23:02,583 --> 01:23:04,582 hiding in the bush, you know, 1423 01:23:04,583 --> 01:23:06,165 there's not much danger here. 1424 01:23:06,166 --> 01:23:08,499 But when that monster suddenly stops and turns 1425 01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:12,165 and looks right at that... That victim in the bush, 1426 01:23:12,166 --> 01:23:14,833 I... I think I said that's when the music starts to play. 1427 01:23:14,834 --> 01:23:16,124 That's when... 1428 01:23:16,125 --> 01:23:18,374 That's when the filmmakers are like, "Okay", 1429 01:23:18,375 --> 01:23:20,332 I got him right now." We knew that we would 1430 01:23:20,333 --> 01:23:22,958 never convince all the jurors. 1431 01:23:22,959 --> 01:23:26,165 Our plan was to strike up a rapport 1432 01:23:26,166 --> 01:23:29,040 with several jurors that could create a hung jury. 1433 01:23:29,041 --> 01:23:31,749 First-degree murder. 1434 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:34,541 It's unprecedented. 1435 01:23:34,542 --> 01:23:38,457 It's unprecedented for a police officer, 1436 01:23:38,458 --> 01:23:41,542 first-degree murder? 1437 01:23:42,458 --> 01:23:45,207 So I'm gonna ask ya, 1438 01:23:45,208 --> 01:23:49,207 when you go back to the jury room, 1439 01:23:49,208 --> 01:23:51,624 you owe it to yourself 1440 01:23:51,625 --> 01:23:55,207 to make the right decision here. 1441 01:23:55,208 --> 01:23:56,791 We also owe it to our... to our city, 1442 01:23:56,792 --> 01:24:00,999 our county, our country. 1443 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,499 You have a very important job here. 1444 01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:07,249 I was convinced by the defense, 1445 01:24:07,250 --> 01:24:10,874 yes, Jason thought his life was being... 1446 01:24:10,875 --> 01:24:13,791 Was being endangered so he shot. 1447 01:24:13,792 --> 01:24:17,583 The jury believed that he feared for his life. 1448 01:24:24,417 --> 01:24:26,791 Everyone is waiting for the verdict, 1449 01:24:26,792 --> 01:24:28,457 and right now, jurors are deciding the fate 1450 01:24:28,458 --> 01:24:30,374 - of Jason Van Dyke. - Police ramping up 1451 01:24:30,375 --> 01:24:32,416 for the Jason Van Dyke verdict. It could come 1452 01:24:32,417 --> 01:24:34,582 - any day now. - Chicago is on high alert 1453 01:24:34,583 --> 01:24:36,416 this morning, bracing for the possibility 1454 01:24:36,417 --> 01:24:39,792 of mass protest and demonstrations. 1455 01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:45,249 Okay. We're ready. 1456 01:24:45,250 --> 01:24:50,249 Jason Van Dyke needs to go to jail. He is a murderer. 1457 01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:54,290 That is a high hill to climb because at this point, 1458 01:24:54,291 --> 01:24:57,416 nothing has ever happened to a Chicago police officer 1459 01:24:57,417 --> 01:25:00,457 for anything that they've done to an African-American person. 1460 01:25:00,458 --> 01:25:04,874 The family wanted to officially say on-record 1461 01:25:04,875 --> 01:25:06,874 that we are people of faith. 1462 01:25:06,875 --> 01:25:08,374 I went in there with faith, 1463 01:25:08,375 --> 01:25:11,249 but I went in there angry, wanting something to happen. 1464 01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:14,290 We are conscious that Laquan McDonald represents 1465 01:25:14,291 --> 01:25:17,374 all of the victims of, uh... police violence 1466 01:25:17,375 --> 01:25:19,499 I wanted something to happen, 1467 01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:22,124 but I wanted it to happen within the confines of the law. 1468 01:25:22,125 --> 01:25:25,416 We're asking for complete peace. 1469 01:25:25,417 --> 01:25:29,791 We don't want any violence before, during, or after 1470 01:25:29,792 --> 01:25:33,250 the verdict in this trial. 1471 01:25:36,250 --> 01:25:39,165 I think that was the most intense time this city 1472 01:25:39,166 --> 01:25:42,583 has ever seen. Ever. 1473 01:25:43,375 --> 01:25:45,582 We was calling for a complete shut-down 1474 01:25:45,583 --> 01:25:47,499 of the city of Chicago 1475 01:25:47,500 --> 01:25:50,165 if Van Dyke was found not guilty. 1476 01:25:50,166 --> 01:25:52,332 Everything. 1477 01:25:52,333 --> 01:25:54,541 We wanted everybody to take to the streets 1478 01:25:54,542 --> 01:25:56,791 and shut the city completely down, and that's what we 1479 01:25:56,792 --> 01:25:58,332 was prepared to do. 1480 01:25:58,333 --> 01:26:00,791 And I'm sure others was com... was prepared to do 1481 01:26:00,792 --> 01:26:03,875 more than that, but... 1482 01:26:05,458 --> 01:26:09,332 This verdict is about to be read. If it is guilty, 1483 01:26:09,333 --> 01:26:11,291 then we're celebrating. 1484 01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:14,207 And if he is acquitted, 1485 01:26:14,208 --> 01:26:17,874 we will shut it down! 1486 01:26:17,875 --> 01:26:21,541 Shut it down! Shut it down! Shut it down! 1487 01:26:21,542 --> 01:26:25,582 - If we don't get it? - Shut it down! 1488 01:26:25,583 --> 01:26:27,833 If we don't get it?! 1489 01:26:27,834 --> 01:26:31,041 Shut it down! 1490 01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:37,541 A whole city is waiting for the verdict 1491 01:26:37,542 --> 01:26:39,958 in officer Jason Van Dyke's murder trial. 1492 01:26:39,959 --> 01:26:41,499 Basically said, "Have you reached a jury?" 1493 01:26:41,500 --> 01:26:44,416 And they said, "We have." A woman said, "We have." 1494 01:26:44,417 --> 01:26:45,833 Keep coming. 1495 01:26:45,834 --> 01:26:49,040 And now they're waiting. 1496 01:26:49,041 --> 01:26:51,624 The whole city is waiting. 1497 01:26:51,625 --> 01:26:54,249 People all over have their radios on 1498 01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:56,332 and their phones close. 1499 01:26:56,333 --> 01:26:58,374 We are about a little less than 30 minutes away 1500 01:26:58,375 --> 01:27:01,165 from the verdict being read aloud in open court. 1501 01:27:01,166 --> 01:27:03,249 The judge has summoned everybody back to 1502 01:27:03,250 --> 01:27:05,249 - the courtroom. - It looks like everyone's 1503 01:27:05,250 --> 01:27:07,332 in court by now, ready to go... 1504 01:27:07,333 --> 01:27:10,582 I had a full-on panic attack. 1505 01:27:10,583 --> 01:27:14,999 I was sitting in-between two people in tears. 1506 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,708 Here we go, y'all. 1507 01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:18,582 It is packed right now. All parties 1508 01:27:18,583 --> 01:27:22,082 are present. We are now at 1:48 in the afternoon. 1509 01:27:22,083 --> 01:27:25,582 The judge had said that the verdict will be read at 1:45, 1510 01:27:25,583 --> 01:27:30,083 so we are thinking that we are getting very close. 1511 01:27:30,917 --> 01:27:33,332 We was going back to the court room, and I couldn't stop 1512 01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:36,875 thinking, like, "Damn..." 1513 01:27:39,291 --> 01:27:41,249 Like, three and a half years, man, 1514 01:27:41,250 --> 01:27:44,874 for it to come down to this moment. 1515 01:27:44,875 --> 01:27:47,624 And I was just praying and praying and praying, 1516 01:27:47,625 --> 01:27:50,290 just walking back and forth and I was so... I just felt 1517 01:27:50,291 --> 01:27:52,082 my chest just... 1518 01:27:52,083 --> 01:27:55,457 My heart beating through my chest. 1519 01:27:55,458 --> 01:27:59,207 I can't front, I was so scared. 1520 01:27:59,208 --> 01:28:02,000 Will you please read the verdict? 1521 01:28:03,458 --> 01:28:08,416 We, the jury, find the defendant, Jason Van Dyke... 1522 01:28:08,417 --> 01:28:11,417 guilty of second-degree murder. 1523 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,417 Man... 1524 01:28:31,917 --> 01:28:35,041 Man, man, man... 1525 01:28:44,458 --> 01:28:46,833 I think when she said that, part of me, my soul, 1526 01:28:46,834 --> 01:28:49,499 sort of left my body. 1527 01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:50,958 It's like when you hear something 1528 01:28:50,959 --> 01:28:53,166 you can't believe it. 1529 01:28:54,959 --> 01:28:56,374 Quiet! 1530 01:28:56,375 --> 01:28:58,833 So after she read that, she began to read aloud 1531 01:28:58,834 --> 01:29:01,457 all the counts of aggravated battery. 1532 01:29:01,458 --> 01:29:04,207 We, the jury, find the defendant, Jason Van Dyke, 1533 01:29:04,208 --> 01:29:08,874 guilty of aggravated battery with a firearm, first shot. 1534 01:29:08,875 --> 01:29:11,457 Shot one, guilty. 1535 01:29:11,458 --> 01:29:13,791 Jason Van Dyke, guilty of aggravated battery. 1536 01:29:13,792 --> 01:29:16,582 Shot two, guilty. 1537 01:29:16,583 --> 01:29:18,124 Another aggravated batt. 1538 01:29:18,125 --> 01:29:21,040 Shot three, guilty. 1539 01:29:21,041 --> 01:29:23,207 Shot four, guilty. 1540 01:29:23,208 --> 01:29:26,291 Shot five, guilty. 1541 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,291 Shot six, guilty. 1542 01:29:31,250 --> 01:29:34,291 Shot seven, guilty. 1543 01:29:34,792 --> 01:29:38,208 Shot eight, guilty. 1544 01:29:39,333 --> 01:29:44,082 Shot nine, guilty. Shot ten, guilty. 1545 01:29:44,083 --> 01:29:49,082 Shot 11, guilty. Shot 12, guilty. 1546 01:29:49,083 --> 01:29:54,416 Shot 13, guilty. Shot 14, guilty. 1547 01:29:54,417 --> 01:29:57,874 Shot 15, guilty. 1548 01:29:57,875 --> 01:30:01,416 Shot 16... 1549 01:30:01,417 --> 01:30:04,250 guilty. 1550 01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:08,916 Everything we've been through was worth it. 1551 01:30:08,917 --> 01:30:10,542 Everything! 1552 01:30:22,333 --> 01:30:27,959 A officer was convicted for murder. 1553 01:30:29,417 --> 01:30:35,249 By a majority, almost all-white jury. 1554 01:30:35,250 --> 01:30:39,124 In front of the entire nation. 1555 01:30:39,125 --> 01:30:41,999 He was guilty of every count of aggravated battery 1556 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:47,124 with a firearm, which carries six to 30 years per count, 1557 01:30:47,125 --> 01:30:50,416 which means he can be cha... He can be given 30 years 1558 01:30:50,417 --> 01:30:52,833 times 16. Somebody do the math. 1559 01:30:52,834 --> 01:30:56,249 What's 30 years times 16? The rest of his life. 1560 01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:58,082 - We never get justice! - Yes! 1561 01:30:58,083 --> 01:30:59,457 Today, we got justice. 1562 01:30:59,458 --> 01:31:04,667 It gave me, being a black man, just... 1563 01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:09,374 You can't do that to us. You can't... 1564 01:31:09,375 --> 01:31:14,082 You can't do what you've been doing these past decades... 1565 01:31:14,083 --> 01:31:17,666 t... to my generation or the generations before me. 1566 01:31:17,667 --> 01:31:20,666 It's over. That time is over. 1567 01:31:20,667 --> 01:31:23,457 - Everything changes after today! - That's right. 1568 01:31:23,458 --> 01:31:24,999 - Everything changed today! - That's right! 1569 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,833 And it's not done. We want the rest of those officers, 1570 01:31:27,834 --> 01:31:29,708 we want them convicted as well. 1571 01:31:29,709 --> 01:31:30,999 Justice for Laquan! 1572 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,499 Justice for Laquan! Justice for Laquan! 1573 01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:35,791 Justice for Laquan! Justice for Laquan! 1574 01:31:35,792 --> 01:31:38,207 We love y'all! Power to the people! 1575 01:31:38,208 --> 01:31:39,666 God bless the family! 1576 01:31:39,667 --> 01:31:41,374 God bless the family. 1577 01:31:41,375 --> 01:31:47,000 My hope is that Laquan's family has some level of peace. 1578 01:31:50,834 --> 01:31:53,416 And if we talk about the movement for black lives, 1579 01:31:53,417 --> 01:31:56,833 this is undoubtedly one of the most important stories, 1580 01:31:56,834 --> 01:32:00,040 and the arc of it is... Is several years long. 1581 01:32:00,041 --> 01:32:02,040 Show me what Chicago looks like! 1582 01:32:02,041 --> 01:32:04,040 This is what Chicago looks like! 1583 01:32:04,041 --> 01:32:06,332 All the investigation that happened, 1584 01:32:06,333 --> 01:32:08,874 all the campaigns that were run around this, 1585 01:32:08,875 --> 01:32:11,040 the unseating of Anita Alvarez, 1586 01:32:11,041 --> 01:32:14,499 the decision of Rahm Emanuel to not run for re-election. 1587 01:32:14,500 --> 01:32:18,541 Heads rolled with this trial, 1588 01:32:18,542 --> 01:32:20,708 heads rolled with this verdict, 1589 01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:25,040 and they're continuing to roll. 1590 01:32:25,041 --> 01:32:29,500 We did that, so what else is possible now? 1591 01:32:38,083 --> 01:32:40,916 Yeah, I guess this case has kind of shaken me, 1592 01:32:40,917 --> 01:32:44,667 with respect to, you know, justice. 1593 01:32:48,083 --> 01:32:50,916 Not only was I representing Jason Van Dyke, 1594 01:32:50,917 --> 01:32:54,499 I was representing law enforcement in general. 1595 01:32:54,500 --> 01:32:57,332 I think a lot of officers see themselves 1596 01:32:57,333 --> 01:33:00,917 as being the victim that Jason Van Dyke is. 1597 01:33:02,750 --> 01:33:05,833 As far as circling the wagons and feeling like 1598 01:33:05,834 --> 01:33:08,541 it's us against them, yeah, I don't think it's ever been 1599 01:33:08,542 --> 01:33:12,542 more prominent, uh, than it is right now. 1600 01:33:20,834 --> 01:33:25,208 We got a problem, folks We got a problem. 1601 01:33:26,375 --> 01:33:28,416 There's no place in this city that we can say 1602 01:33:28,417 --> 01:33:30,917 we're safe anymore. 1603 01:33:31,375 --> 01:33:33,457 It kind of flipped a switch for me. 1604 01:33:33,458 --> 01:33:35,791 I said, "I can't stand by and watch this." 1605 01:33:35,792 --> 01:33:38,290 My public service DNA took over, 1606 01:33:38,291 --> 01:33:40,959 and I jumped into this thing. 1607 01:33:42,250 --> 01:33:44,416 Something has to change. 1608 01:33:44,417 --> 01:33:46,290 The police are under attack. 1609 01:33:46,291 --> 01:33:48,791 They're under attack by the press, they're under attack 1610 01:33:48,792 --> 01:33:50,833 by elected officials, they're under attack 1611 01:33:50,834 --> 01:33:52,624 by community leaders. 1612 01:33:52,625 --> 01:33:56,040 It's fashionable to attack the police now. 1613 01:33:56,041 --> 01:33:58,999 I want to tell you something that's really important to me, 1614 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,749 and I hope you guys felt it in CPD, 1615 01:34:01,750 --> 01:34:04,582 is... is there's nobody more important than the troops. 1616 01:34:04,583 --> 01:34:07,624 The fact that young people are being encouraged 1617 01:34:07,625 --> 01:34:10,207 to not comply with the police 1618 01:34:10,208 --> 01:34:14,166 is putting the Constitution in danger. 1619 01:34:20,041 --> 01:34:22,499 I'm not optimistic at all. 1620 01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:26,375 We're reaching anarchy. 1621 01:35:16,583 --> 01:35:18,082 Taken away. 1622 01:35:18,083 --> 01:35:21,249 As though it never happened. 1623 01:35:21,250 --> 01:35:25,708 The system is so... I'm sorry, it's jacked up. 1624 01:35:25,709 --> 01:35:30,458 I'm glad I did my job, but I feel betrayed. 1625 01:35:35,542 --> 01:35:40,249 The jury verdict was 16 counts, 1626 01:35:40,250 --> 01:35:41,916 16 shots. 1627 01:35:41,917 --> 01:35:44,124 Multiple shots fired. 1628 01:35:44,125 --> 01:35:48,457 It was a moment of moral clarity. 1629 01:35:48,458 --> 01:35:51,333 But short-lived. 1630 01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:56,917 We're still fighting over the story. 1631 01:35:57,875 --> 01:36:01,916 The struggle started the moment the shots were fired. 1632 01:36:01,917 --> 01:36:04,916 And it's the story at the center of 1633 01:36:04,917 --> 01:36:09,374 our racial nightmare in this country. 1634 01:36:09,375 --> 01:36:11,124 I would go so far as to say that 1635 01:36:11,125 --> 01:36:14,875 it's a matter of life and death.126020

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