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Anyone riding with Robert?
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Yeah, uh...
Got him walking away from me.
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He's got a knife in his hand.
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I had never met
a police officer that
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woke up in the morning
with the intentions of
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"I'm gonna go out and have
to shoot somebody today."
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Male caught breaking into
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a church and stealing radios.
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Armed with knife.
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Chicago Police
Department averages
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maybe 30 police shootings
a year.
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Do you know the vehicle?
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Zero dark thirty some time.
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- The wee hours of the morning.
- Anybody close yet?
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You get the call,
get up and get dressed,
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drive from here to
48th and Pulaski.
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Let's shut down all of Pulaski.
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Let's shut down all traffic.
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I'm a God-fearing
person. I would say... prayer
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for the offender,
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but I'd also pray
for the officer.
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- Five.
- Fired by police!
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16 shots! 16
shots! 16 shots! 16 shots!
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16 shots!
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10-33. In the
area. Be right over there.
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Sure, Pat Camden, sp... spokesperson,
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Fraternal Order of Police,
Chicago, Lodge Seven.
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Uh, there was a call of
a individual
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trying to break into
some vehicles.
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Officers responded and there
was an individual with a knife
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I don't know what his
mental state was,
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but he wasn't dropping
the knife and he was
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coming at the officer.
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And the officers are responding
to somebody with a knife
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in a... a crazed condition,
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you obviously aren't going
to sit down and have
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a cup of coffee with him.
He is a very serious threat
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to the officers and
he leaves them
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no choice at that point but to
defend themselves.
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No, no. Just the...
Just the offender.
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Thank you for your
time. Appreciate it.
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You're welcome, buddy.
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I always wanted
to be the police.
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As a young kid, I wanted to be
part of that thin blue line
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that separates normal life
from chaos.
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I still feel I'm part of the
Chicago Police Department.
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Even though I'm retired,
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that loyalty that I have for
the police department I-is...
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is... is very, very strong.
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I'll take it to my
grave with me.
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I was the spokesperson for the
Fraternal Order of Police,
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for FOP.
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I've covered well over
500 police-involved shootings.
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Pat, I understand we had a
police shooting here tonight.
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Can you tell me what happened?
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Officers responded to a call
of a suspicious person.
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The individual raised his gun,
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putting the officer
into fear of his life.
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The offender raised a gun,
putting both officers
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in fear of their life.
In defense of his
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partner's life and his life,
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the police had to shoot
the offenders.
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I'm not even gonna
get into that.
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You don't have any
comment on that at all?
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A police department
has to be first
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in the media.
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It is incumbent that they are
the ones that are putting out
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the information.
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Breaking news from
Chicago's Southwest side.
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A 17-year-old boy is shot
and killed by police.
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Chicago police say
they had no choice
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but to shoot a 17-year-old boy
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who threatened them
with a knife.
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The teen suffered a
gunshot wound to the chest.
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He was taken to Mount Sinai
Hospital in critical condition
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and that is where he died.
Fraternal Order of Police
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spokesman Pat Camden says he
lunged at one of them with the
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knife, and as soon as that
happened, they shot him.
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Police say this was a
clear-cut case
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of self-defense.
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I think it's a level
of people being desensitized
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from the violence.
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That's what we've been seeing
for so many years.
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Like, why protest?
Nothing's gonna change.
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Why go after this?
Nothing's gonna change.
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The morning after, from my
understanding, it was just
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a black man that lunged
at the Chicago police
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and was shot and killed.
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I didn't even know
his name was Laquan.
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Laquan was...
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a young black child from
the West side of Chicago...
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who ended up being murdered
on the South side of Chicago.
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I come from the same
background Laquan came from.
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I was a ward of the state,
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I was birthed by a
15-year-old mother,
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I was in and out the
ID home as a juvenile.
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He had a troubled life.
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Never in a million years
I would've thought
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it would've had this
type of effect
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on the city or on the country.
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Never.
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I'm sitting in my office...
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and my niece...
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knocks on this church door.
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And she's crying.
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She says to me,
"They killed my baby
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and it ain't right."
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My heart, you know,
drops, of course,
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'cause, you know, I know
who this kid is.
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His name was Laquan McDonald.
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Laquan was my great nephew.
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He was a happy-go-lucky kid.
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Kind of kid that wanted
to make everybody laugh.
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A jokester.
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I didn't spend a lot
of time with him,
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but my heart is broke because
this mother's heart is broke,
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and I just knew that there
was something wrong.
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But at this point, in my mind,
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I'm thinking there ain't
nothing that we can do.
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Finally, the coroner released
the body to the funeral home.
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After that, I get a phone
call on my cell.
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What Mr. Camden had
said on television,
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that ain't what happened.
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This boy been shot
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and it's a lot of bullet
holes in him.
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I tell the funeral home,
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"When you get the body,
take pictures."
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So they took the
pictures of the body.
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The body tells a totally
different story
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than what the local news
had put out there:
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That he's shot one
time in the chest.
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The family wanted privacy
from the media
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and justice for Laquan.
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The initial meeting
was more about.
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"Well, what... what happened
here? Is there a case?"
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'Cause you never really know.
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Someone from the funeral home,
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at their request, took a
bunch of photographs,
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and they really
weren't too clear.
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But they knew he was
shot multiple times.
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We agreed to take it
to look into it
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to see what really happened.
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We sent out probate subpoenas
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and then we received
police reports.
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So we have five units
on the scene,
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and there was only one officer
that discharged his weapon.
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Nobody else fired a shot.
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And we also saw that there
were three eye witnesses
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that were taken from the
Burger King drive-thru
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to the police station.
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And according to the
police reports,
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they're questioned for hours.
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If this was a regular
murder case,
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you would have eye
witness statements
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that were either videotaped
or written-out by a prosecutor.
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And instead, you had these
little summaries that said,
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"Oh, I saw nothing."
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We thought, "This is very odd."
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Initially, we thought the
shooting happened
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in the drive-thru of
the Burger King.
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So we sent this wave of
probate subpoenas
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to the Burger King.
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And the Burger King people
were very receptive.
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They said, "Come on down,
we'll show you what we have."
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But what was really odd
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and what the Burger King
people were upset about
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was the way the police
came to their restaurant
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and just demanded access
to their video equipment.
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They didn't have a subpoena,
they didn't have a warrant.
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And all I know for sure is
that now there's 86 minutes
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that are missing.
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And so that gets your radar up.
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But when you look at
the police reports
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that were signed-off on,
again, by lieutenants
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and sergeants and detectives,
it's a justified shooting.
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It's justified.
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I remember reading
a story of a young man
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shot and killed on the
Southwest side of Chicago.
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I, as a Chicagoan,
somebody who...
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writes about these issues,
is immersed in them,
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I did what everybody does:
I turned the page.
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About a week after the incident,
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a close colleague of
mine received a call
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from somebody close to the
investigation who said,
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"There is video,
police dash cam video,"
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that completely contradicts
the official story
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of what happened.
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"It's horrific."
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The implication of the call was.
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"This is gonna be
deep-sixed, the video.
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Made disappear."
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So I began to investigate.
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But these investigations
are long-shots.
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They're huge long-shots,
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and you can just never get
to the point where
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you have sufficient evidence to
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bring the story to the public.
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There's probably never
been a more important time
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in policing than right now.
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Some people would say
that, you know,
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now is not the time
to be a police officer.
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I say exactly the opposite.
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It's probably the most
fulfilling thing
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that you can do with your life.
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I've been a police
officer for 35 years.
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And my dad was a police
officer, so I have a...
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A little context going back
to 1947 in New York City.
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Things have changed
dramatically.
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Police departments are not
what they were years ago.
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Police officers are not what
they were years ago.
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I guess it was the day after
the shooting occurred.
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I had an in-depth, uh,
briefing on the case.
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I saw the video.
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I didn't say it was murder.
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Because I don't know what
officer Van Dyke saw,
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I don't know what
was in his mind.
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Those were questions that I
couldn't answer at the time.
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I took on Jason Van
Dyke's case, um,
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really from the early stages.
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It was just an
administrative case.
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After the shooting, the
video and the reports
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were reviewed by the top
command staff members
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and everybody, to a
man, concluded that
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this is a, um,
a proper shooting.
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It was essentially approved.
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Once we knew officer
Jason Van Dyke's name,
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we were able to piece
together his record.
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By the time Van Dyke
shot Laquan McDonald,
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he had already been the target
of more than 20 allegations
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of misconduct.
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But in the course
of his 13-year career,
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he had never once
been disciplined.
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There was little reason to
believe the McDonald case
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would end any differently.
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The police said the
shooting was justified,
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and McDonald's family wasn't
speaking to the press.
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I was all-in on the story,
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but at that point, I had one
source with information
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about the dash cam video,
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unwilling to be publicly named
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because of concerns about
retaliation.
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So I asked a source if
she could find out about
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the content of the autopsy.
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And I went out for a run
quite late in the evening
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and she pulled up
in her vehicle.
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She was visibly shaken.
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And almost immediately,
she said,
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"16 shots.
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Front and back."
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A total of 16
bullets struck the body.
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Two in the back, one in
the left upper back here,
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and one in the right lower back.
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Each wound gets a
detailed paragraph.
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Two wounds on
the anterior right leg.
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There's a graze on the head,
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a gunshot wound through the left
side of the front of the neck,
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which would be a serious
wound in that it
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went through the trachea.
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And then all the rest of the
wounds are through the arms.
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Autopsies are
extraordinary documents.
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They're the victim testifying.
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The closest we have to Laquan
McDonald giving an account
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of what happened to him
is the autopsy.
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Seven bullets were
recovered from the body,
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which means, uh, nine would've
passed through the body,
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including the graze.
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Small probable projectile
fragments
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recovered from the mouth,
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that could be from a
bullet which might have
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impacted on the ground
near the body
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and could've caused some
shrapnel, which could've
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gotten up into the mouth.
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Given the other things we knew,
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what the autopsy suggested
was the boy on the ground,
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rolling around in pain,
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and bullets entering at
different points
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from the same... from
the same shooter.
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The autopsy utterly impeached
the official narrative
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that the city had
been promoting.
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Young man with a
knife, aggressive,
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lunges a police officer,
policer officer shoots
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in self-defense.
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It simply couldn't be true.
284
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But the autopsy didn't provide
a counter-narrative.
285
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For that, it was
critical to talk to
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civilian witnesses to
the shooting.
287
00:18:34,625 --> 00:18:39,249
After a series of dead ends
and wrong addresses,
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I showed up at the doorstep
of Jose Torres
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and his son, Xavier.
290
00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:48,457
When Jamie came to my
door, I freaked out.
291
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I'm looking behind him, looking
around, to see if...
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I'm thinking it's the police
is here to get me.
293
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I don't wanna talk bad about
all police officers,
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'cause they're not all bad.
I have a lot of friends
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that are police officers.
But, um...
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you know, after seeing this,
297
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I lost pretty much the
trust in...
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In the police.
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We were traveling
North-bound on Pulaski.
300
00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:21,499
I was actually the first car
that pulled up at the scene.
301
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I had just barely come
off from from work.
302
00:19:23,208 --> 00:19:26,332
I was headed to Burger King.
303
00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:31,542
I see a guy running
next... on my window.
304
00:19:32,417 --> 00:19:34,999
He was getting chased
by the cops.
305
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,541
They were chasing him.
306
00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:38,124
We had the street light, so
we were able to, you know,
307
00:19:38,125 --> 00:19:40,374
get a good view of
what was going on.
308
00:19:40,375 --> 00:19:42,582
There were a lot
of police officers.
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And it just seemed like
he was just trying to
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get away from...
From what was going on.
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Those first shots came
in and he dropped.
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Shots and saw him drop.
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He literally dropped.
314
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And there was a small pause.
315
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I see Laquan McDonald move.
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I... It didn't seem like
he was getting up.
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It just seemed like
he was in pain.
318
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But that's when other
shots start coming in.
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He was on the ground, and still,
320
00:20:12,542 --> 00:20:13,624
more shots came at him.
321
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When the gunshots were going in,
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his just body kept jumping.
323
00:20:17,834 --> 00:20:19,416
It... You could tell it was...
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He didn't have no life
in there no more.
325
00:20:20,917 --> 00:20:23,249
And the next thing I remember
326
00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:25,457
is, um, yelling, "Stop shooting!"
327
00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:27,791
He's dead already!"
328
00:20:27,792 --> 00:20:28,958
I was kind of upset and I said,
329
00:20:28,959 --> 00:20:30,666
"Why the fuck are they
still shooting him?
330
00:20:30,667 --> 00:20:31,916
He's on the ground."
331
00:20:31,917 --> 00:20:35,417
From what we see, he wasn't
posing any type of threat.
332
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The detectives call me over
333
00:20:40,417 --> 00:20:44,375
and they took us to
the precinct.
334
00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:48,875
They separated us in
three different rooms.
335
00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:52,416
They brought me into a small
office and they started
336
00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:55,500
questioning me and asking
me what happened.
337
00:20:56,709 --> 00:20:59,499
I talked to several
detectives, not one.
338
00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,499
And they kept asking me
the qu... same questions
339
00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:03,165
over and over again.
340
00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:06,207
"What did you see? How many
gunshots did you hear?"
341
00:21:06,208 --> 00:21:08,874
And the more I kept
telling them of what I saw,
342
00:21:08,875 --> 00:21:10,791
they were trying to make me...
343
00:21:10,792 --> 00:21:12,624
They would... They would
tell me stuff like,
344
00:21:12,625 --> 00:21:14,290
"Well, we're watching the video
345
00:21:14,291 --> 00:21:16,916
and your story does not match."
346
00:21:16,917 --> 00:21:18,374
And, uh...
347
00:21:18,375 --> 00:21:20,999
and I said, "Well, if
it doesn't match, then..."
348
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,791
And you have a video,
what am I doing here?"
349
00:21:23,792 --> 00:21:27,416
And they said, "Well, you
know, it's not good to lie."
350
00:21:27,417 --> 00:21:29,207
They really wanted me
to change the story
351
00:21:29,208 --> 00:21:32,416
about how many shots
I had heard.
352
00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:33,833
If I didn't tell them what
they wanted to hear,
353
00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,833
I definitely thought I
was gonna go to jail.
354
00:21:36,834 --> 00:21:40,249
H... He kept pushing me to say
that he was trying to get up.
355
00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:42,290
I'm like, "No." I'm like,
"I'm not...
356
00:21:42,291 --> 00:21:44,499
Why would I change my story?"
357
00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:46,124
Later, a detective
comes in the room
358
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where we were all together.
359
00:21:48,166 --> 00:21:50,624
One of the other guys tells him,
360
00:21:50,625 --> 00:21:52,082
"We already told you,
361
00:21:52,083 --> 00:21:56,290
we saw a cop execute a guy."
362
00:21:56,291 --> 00:21:59,624
And the detective just
blew up like,
363
00:21:59,625 --> 00:22:02,624
"What? It's just another
scumbag out of the street."
364
00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:04,207
We did you a favor.
365
00:22:04,208 --> 00:22:06,124
"We did Chicago a favor."
366
00:22:06,125 --> 00:22:07,833
In that moment, I was like, "No."
367
00:22:07,834 --> 00:22:11,124
If I'm not being arrested, um,
I'm not gonna say another word
368
00:22:11,125 --> 00:22:14,457
"until I have a lawyer."
369
00:22:14,458 --> 00:22:17,959
Five minutes later, they told
us we were free to go.
370
00:22:18,375 --> 00:22:21,083
Four in the morning.
371
00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:45,999
The following day,
I get up in the morning
372
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,124
before I head to work,
373
00:22:47,125 --> 00:22:48,499
and I turn on the news
because I want to see
374
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,708
if there was anything
about the shooting.
375
00:22:51,709 --> 00:22:54,541
I see this spokesperson,
Pat Camden.
376
00:22:54,542 --> 00:22:56,374
I'm like, "No, this is wrong."
377
00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,249
I'm like, "What they're
saying is false."
378
00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:59,624
He did not lunge at him.
379
00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:02,791
"Um, he was turning away
from him at the time."
380
00:23:02,792 --> 00:23:05,791
It was eating away at me.
381
00:23:05,792 --> 00:23:09,165
What they were saying was a lie.
382
00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:11,165
I wanted to talk to somebody,
383
00:23:11,166 --> 00:23:12,916
but a few guys lived in
the neighborhood
384
00:23:12,917 --> 00:23:18,082
and I was worried about
retaliation from the police.
385
00:23:18,083 --> 00:23:21,582
As time went by, I...
I j... I couldn't sleep.
386
00:23:21,583 --> 00:23:23,541
I'm like, "What if that was
one of my boys that..."
387
00:23:23,542 --> 00:23:26,583
That the police
gunned-down like that?"
388
00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:32,625
And I... I said,
"I have to come forward."
389
00:23:47,125 --> 00:23:49,958
Once I had a
credible civilian witness,
390
00:23:49,959 --> 00:23:53,541
a precise description
of a dash cam video,
391
00:23:53,542 --> 00:23:58,041
and the autopsy,
I was ready to publish.
392
00:24:02,625 --> 00:24:04,791
Once the piece appears in Slate,
393
00:24:04,792 --> 00:24:07,542
pretty much the whole story
was in plain sight.
394
00:24:09,959 --> 00:24:13,499
At four AM, the general counsel
from the police department
395
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:17,375
sent a link to the piece to
the chief lawyer for the city.
396
00:24:22,125 --> 00:24:23,666
By the next morning,
397
00:24:23,667 --> 00:24:26,249
the entire text was in
the email boxes
398
00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:29,208
of the mayor's senior staff.
399
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:37,165
How did they respond?
400
00:24:37,166 --> 00:24:39,708
Silence.
401
00:24:39,709 --> 00:24:42,208
They don't respond.
402
00:24:51,583 --> 00:24:57,457
Jamie began clanging the
bell on Laquan McDonald.
403
00:24:57,458 --> 00:24:59,624
But...
404
00:24:59,625 --> 00:25:01,374
Not as a defense, but
these stories
405
00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,791
are hard to investigate.
406
00:25:02,792 --> 00:25:07,499
Autopsy reports can be subject
to some interpretation.
407
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,374
Eye witness statements
can be subject
408
00:25:10,375 --> 00:25:12,624
to questioning in
terms of accuracy
409
00:25:12,625 --> 00:25:16,374
or where they were from
their vantage point.
410
00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:22,709
And there are other stories
that people were working on.
411
00:25:23,709 --> 00:25:25,749
Police do get the
benefit of the doubt.
412
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:29,040
And, in most cases...
413
00:25:29,041 --> 00:25:32,541
properly so. They put their
lives on the line.
414
00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:36,582
We count on them to do
what we don't do.
415
00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:40,250
And it kind of went
by the wayside.
416
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,708
I wouldn't say the story died,
417
00:25:45,709 --> 00:25:48,040
but it was like a tree
falling in the forest.
418
00:25:48,041 --> 00:25:49,750
You know, who heard it?
419
00:25:53,542 --> 00:25:56,249
At every point in this process,
420
00:25:56,250 --> 00:26:01,291
everything works in support
of the official narrative.
421
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:07,582
The machinery is actually
continuing to function
422
00:26:07,583 --> 00:26:10,708
until dramatically,
423
00:26:10,709 --> 00:26:14,249
almost cataclysmically,
and mysteriously,
424
00:26:14,250 --> 00:26:16,750
it doesn't.
425
00:26:28,375 --> 00:26:31,416
Good afternoon,
Jeff Neslund's office.
426
00:26:31,417 --> 00:26:33,165
We had heard about it,
427
00:26:33,166 --> 00:26:36,541
Jamie Kalven had written
articles about it,
428
00:26:36,542 --> 00:26:39,374
so we sent probate subpoenas
to the department,
429
00:26:39,375 --> 00:26:43,082
saying "We want the
dash cam videos."
430
00:26:43,083 --> 00:26:47,749
And time had gone by and we
hadn't received anything yet.
431
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:50,124
And so we called and
the sergeant said,
432
00:26:50,125 --> 00:26:52,624
"You got to go through
Internal Affairs."
433
00:26:52,625 --> 00:26:54,165
So we called Internal Affairs
434
00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:56,499
and Internal Affairs
person said,
435
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,124
"We don't deal with subpoenas."
436
00:26:58,125 --> 00:27:00,124
And so we called the
subpoena sergeant back
437
00:27:00,125 --> 00:27:01,624
and said, "They don't
deal with it?"
438
00:27:01,625 --> 00:27:05,290
Okay, you know? Here it comes."
439
00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:09,374
You know, I think this kind
of went under the radar.
440
00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:11,749
If somebody higher-up
would've seen this,
441
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:13,958
they would've sent lawyers
to probate court trying
442
00:27:13,959 --> 00:27:16,083
to quash the subpoena.
443
00:27:16,834 --> 00:27:18,332
So whether that
person actually knew
444
00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:21,000
what he was sending?
I don't know.
445
00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:26,541
We popped it in in my computer
and we were shocked.
446
00:27:26,542 --> 00:27:28,541
A male we caught
breaking into church
447
00:27:28,542 --> 00:27:30,165
and stealing radios.
448
00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:32,457
And what we saw was,
in our opinion, uh,
449
00:27:32,458 --> 00:27:35,083
a first-degree murder.
450
00:27:37,792 --> 00:27:39,666
This video was accessible
and reviewed
451
00:27:39,667 --> 00:27:40,999
by the police the night
of the shooting,
452
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,290
so how do you justify this?
453
00:27:43,291 --> 00:27:45,290
You come up with a
bunch of excuses,
454
00:27:45,291 --> 00:27:47,624
a bunch of lies about
a young man,
455
00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:49,541
waving the knife aggressively,
456
00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:52,041
threatening us.
457
00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:57,165
We know from emails
that have been released
458
00:27:57,166 --> 00:28:00,582
that they were on the lookout
for somebody calling about
459
00:28:00,583 --> 00:28:03,999
the Laquan McDonald case.
460
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,040
And when we finally did
reach out to the city,
461
00:28:08,041 --> 00:28:12,333
they knew exactly what
case we were talking about.
462
00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:15,999
We told them, "We've
got the video."
463
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,165
And there was just stunned
silence on the other
464
00:28:18,166 --> 00:28:22,333
end of the phone that said
"How'd you get the video?"
465
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,541
At that point, the machinery
was, in some sense, working.
466
00:28:38,542 --> 00:28:41,417
But the pressure is building.
467
00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:46,959
It starts with the autopsy
impeaching the police narrative.
468
00:28:48,166 --> 00:28:52,041
It includes the civilian
witnesses.
469
00:28:52,875 --> 00:28:56,040
And finally, somewhat
improbably,
470
00:28:56,041 --> 00:29:00,875
the video is sent to the
lawyers for the family.
471
00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:07,833
At the same time, the national
context keeps intensifying.
472
00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:12,416
The shooting of Michael
Brown in Ferguson,
473
00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:16,374
Eric Garner in New York,
474
00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:18,332
Freddie Gray in Baltimore.
475
00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,165
Protests growing nationwide,
476
00:29:20,166 --> 00:29:23,499
from Oakland, California,
Philadelphia, Atlanta,
477
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,709
and Washington D.C.
478
00:29:27,291 --> 00:29:30,457
And, in response to
the popular protests,
479
00:29:30,458 --> 00:29:34,624
we have an increasingly active
Justice Department
480
00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:36,124
intervening.
481
00:29:36,125 --> 00:29:38,749
The Justice Department
has opened investigations
482
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:40,958
or is enforcing
court-ordered changes
483
00:29:40,959 --> 00:29:43,999
in 32 police departments
and sheriff's offices
484
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,166
in 18 states.
485
00:29:55,959 --> 00:29:57,999
The hope was that
the public outcry about
486
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,165
the Laquan McDonald case
would finally bring
487
00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:04,333
the Department of Justice to
intervene in Chicago.
488
00:30:12,625 --> 00:30:14,499
I came to the Department
of Justice
489
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:16,958
in the kind of Golden Era, um,
490
00:30:16,959 --> 00:30:20,749
and I worked with a really
amazing group of people
491
00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:23,749
I investigated departments
ranging from New Orleans
492
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:27,000
to Ferguson to
Newark, New Jersey.
493
00:30:31,542 --> 00:30:34,374
In Chicago, we opened
the formal investigation
494
00:30:34,375 --> 00:30:37,375
after Laquan McDonald
was killed.
495
00:30:43,583 --> 00:30:46,207
Chicago was the largest team
we've ever had,
496
00:30:46,208 --> 00:30:50,207
and we reviewed over 400
Use of Force investigations,
497
00:30:50,208 --> 00:30:52,833
and that included 170
investigations
498
00:30:52,834 --> 00:30:55,208
of officer-involved shootings.
499
00:30:56,959 --> 00:31:00,499
There's never been the
kind of wholesale change
500
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:02,999
and reform needed
from within Chicago,
501
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040
where you really have
such strong local politics
502
00:31:05,041 --> 00:31:08,165
and such a strong
police department.
503
00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:11,874
What we are looking at when we
do one of these investigations?
504
00:31:11,875 --> 00:31:14,499
"Is this behavior aberrational?
Or is it part of a normal
505
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,375
pattern or practice?"
506
00:31:20,917 --> 00:31:23,416
In Chicago, the police officers
507
00:31:23,417 --> 00:31:25,624
still control the
scene of a shooting
508
00:31:25,625 --> 00:31:29,083
and still conduct the
initial questioning.
509
00:31:31,792 --> 00:31:34,999
Officers were not separated
before they gave statements.
510
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,416
Um, officers were allowed to
speak to their union reps.
511
00:31:38,417 --> 00:31:40,290
They don't prohibit
officers, in any way,
512
00:31:40,291 --> 00:31:43,000
from cooking their stories.
513
00:31:48,125 --> 00:31:50,666
The FOP responded to
514
00:31:50,667 --> 00:31:52,874
the Laquan McDonald
shooting as they respond
515
00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:55,249
to all police-involved
shootings.
516
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:57,249
So what we try to do
is give the officers
517
00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,749
the benefit of the doubt
and allow them
518
00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:02,958
to de-escalate, more or less.
519
00:32:02,959 --> 00:32:05,582
And... And to get
some time away,
520
00:32:05,583 --> 00:32:08,040
collect your thoughts,
meet with counsel,
521
00:32:08,041 --> 00:32:11,291
and then go forward and
make their statement.
522
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:18,124
Morning after,
I get a phone call.
523
00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:20,541
I ask them, "How is everything?"
524
00:32:20,542 --> 00:32:22,290
Is everybody okay?"
525
00:32:22,291 --> 00:32:24,582
"Everybody's okay."
"Is it a good shoot?"
526
00:32:24,583 --> 00:32:26,207
"It's a good shoot."
527
00:32:26,208 --> 00:32:28,291
We're done.
528
00:32:32,458 --> 00:32:36,833
They ask officers
to risk their careers
529
00:32:36,834 --> 00:32:39,040
when they get them all
in a room together and say,
530
00:32:39,041 --> 00:32:43,332
"Hey, let's all make sure we
have our stories straight."
531
00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:46,332
We've got a pretty
good batting average.
532
00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:49,124
We would be the highest-paid
player in that league,
533
00:32:49,125 --> 00:32:55,166
if it was salary, it was
based on, uh, on wins.
534
00:33:02,083 --> 00:33:03,666
There were a lot
of issues we found
535
00:33:03,667 --> 00:33:07,999
with officer statements in
the Laquan McDonald case.
536
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,749
There's a saying in police work.
537
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:11,708
There's a saying in
crisis management
538
00:33:11,709 --> 00:33:13,624
that the first three
reports from the scene
539
00:33:13,625 --> 00:33:15,499
are generally wrong.
540
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:17,332
Did you know that?
541
00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:19,541
It is absolutely the
case that there may be
542
00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:22,165
different interpretations
or different...
543
00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:24,457
parts of a scenario were
remembered differently
544
00:33:24,458 --> 00:33:26,290
by different people.
545
00:33:26,291 --> 00:33:30,332
The problem is that not only
are all of these narratives
546
00:33:30,333 --> 00:33:32,290
remarkably similar to each
other but they're all
547
00:33:32,291 --> 00:33:35,333
inconsistent with the evidence
in the exact same ways.
548
00:33:35,792 --> 00:33:37,958
You could weave whatever
thread you want through this.
549
00:33:37,959 --> 00:33:41,040
You could say that Lee Harvey
Oswald was involved.
550
00:33:41,041 --> 00:33:44,207
But he wasn't here.
551
00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:47,750
The Laquan McDonald case
was not a cover-up.
552
00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:53,332
The officers say that
they saw the victim lunge.
553
00:33:53,333 --> 00:33:56,708
Other officers say that Laquan
McDonald was behaving
554
00:33:56,709 --> 00:33:59,542
in a threatening manner.
555
00:34:01,208 --> 00:34:03,416
They lied. They lied
from day one.
556
00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:05,666
They lied about something of
557
00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:08,208
fundamental human importance.
558
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,666
There are certain things
that were put in the reports
559
00:34:14,667 --> 00:34:18,166
that may not appear in
all the evidence.
560
00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,958
I would certainly
acknowledge that.
561
00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:23,165
There's always an effort to,
you know, make the case
562
00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:27,249
as good as it can be
going forward to trial.
563
00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:30,207
And I know that the
reports were drafted
564
00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:34,000
and reviewed by the
command staff.
565
00:34:35,834 --> 00:34:38,833
It was really the pattern
and practice of...
566
00:34:38,834 --> 00:34:41,917
Of the police department.
567
00:34:46,458 --> 00:34:49,457
The investigation
involved, arguably,
568
00:34:49,458 --> 00:34:51,874
the destruction of
evidence as in the...
569
00:34:51,875 --> 00:34:54,791
The case of the Burger King,
the falsification of reports
570
00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:56,874
by multiple officers,
571
00:34:56,875 --> 00:34:59,457
the intimidation of witnesses,
572
00:34:59,458 --> 00:35:03,834
and the falsification
of their stories.
573
00:35:05,417 --> 00:35:10,625
And then, the findings go to
the State's Attorney's office.
574
00:35:14,625 --> 00:35:17,040
Being, uh, Cook County
State's Attorney,
575
00:35:17,041 --> 00:35:19,249
this is the second-largest
office in the nation,
576
00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:22,499
so it's... it's quite
a... a big job.
577
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,999
The number one goal for
a State's Attorney,
578
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,165
as a prosecutor, either here or
anywhere in the country,
579
00:35:28,166 --> 00:35:30,833
is public safety.
580
00:35:30,834 --> 00:35:32,165
It's not easy.
581
00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:34,582
Right now, police
are under attack
582
00:35:34,583 --> 00:35:36,499
and I think right now,
583
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:39,457
probably the most difficult
job you can have
584
00:35:39,458 --> 00:35:41,833
is to be a police officer.
585
00:35:41,834 --> 00:35:45,332
And so, police officer shootings
have to be handled differently,
586
00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:47,165
because they're police officers
587
00:35:47,166 --> 00:35:49,499
and it's not the same
as one gangbanger
588
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:53,165
shooting another.
It'll never be.
589
00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:55,165
Here's the other reality:
590
00:35:55,166 --> 00:35:57,666
It's extremely hard to
convict police officers.
591
00:35:57,667 --> 00:36:01,124
And if you look at the
results across the nation,
592
00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:05,500
it... it's rare that
we're successful.
593
00:36:07,917 --> 00:36:09,666
When did you see the video?
594
00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:12,040
I... Two weeks after the...
It happened,
595
00:36:12,041 --> 00:36:14,917
back in November of 2014.
596
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:21,208
And when did the mayor see it?
597
00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:27,709
I would guess he
saw it before I did.
598
00:36:37,959 --> 00:36:40,165
Are you a registered
voter in this neighborhood?
599
00:36:40,166 --> 00:36:41,207
All right, have a blessed day.
600
00:36:41,208 --> 00:36:42,416
What about you, brother?
601
00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:45,208
- Not this neighborhood, sir.
- Oh, okay.
602
00:36:56,917 --> 00:36:59,207
With Laquan, it just seemed like
603
00:36:59,208 --> 00:37:02,582
here's another black youth shot
604
00:37:02,583 --> 00:37:06,417
by Chicago Police
Department. No justice.
605
00:37:07,417 --> 00:37:09,834
Yeah, you can sign right here.
606
00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:13,749
Thank you so much.
607
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:18,207
But when Jamie Kelven came
out with his investigation,
608
00:37:18,208 --> 00:37:21,416
I found out that the
video existed.
609
00:37:21,417 --> 00:37:23,374
For so long, across the nation,
610
00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:25,374
we never had video evidence,
you know what I mean?
611
00:37:25,375 --> 00:37:28,207
Like, with Trayvon Martin,
with Mike Brown,
612
00:37:28,208 --> 00:37:31,666
we never had real
video evidence.
613
00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:33,958
But now, here we are.
614
00:37:33,959 --> 00:37:36,457
Video evidence.
615
00:37:36,458 --> 00:37:38,749
And so I just got to
researching about
616
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:42,917
how to get information released
from the police department.
617
00:37:43,583 --> 00:37:47,874
I had a... a friend, he
told me about FOIA.
618
00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:49,124
And I didn't know at the time,
619
00:37:49,125 --> 00:37:51,082
I wasn't educated on
what FOIA was,
620
00:37:51,083 --> 00:37:52,958
the Freedom of Information Act.
621
00:37:52,959 --> 00:37:55,625
We FOIA'd for the tape, right?
622
00:37:56,375 --> 00:38:00,207
Of course, the Chicago Police
Department denied us,
623
00:38:00,208 --> 00:38:05,458
and we filed a lawsuit,
and we hired a attorney.
624
00:38:06,458 --> 00:38:10,374
Part of the police
department's and city's
625
00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:14,457
strategy and success in
maintaining a system
626
00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:18,000
of impunity involves
official secrecy.
627
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,124
The standard operating procedure
of keeping things secret was.
628
00:38:22,125 --> 00:38:24,040
"It's under investigation."
629
00:38:24,041 --> 00:38:26,958
The three words "It's
under investigation"
630
00:38:26,959 --> 00:38:28,582
just end all inquiry.
631
00:38:28,583 --> 00:38:30,541
It's like...
632
00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:33,417
It was like running
into a brick wall.
633
00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:40,499
I don't... I don't really
have an opposition
634
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,708
to the video being released.
635
00:38:43,709 --> 00:38:46,290
My concern is I don't want
636
00:38:46,291 --> 00:38:49,457
the case to somehow
be jeopardized.
637
00:38:49,458 --> 00:38:51,499
I think if you ask
any prosecutor,
638
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,958
we don't like when
all of our evidence
639
00:38:53,959 --> 00:38:55,667
is out there.
640
00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:01,499
So, the city and the
prosecutors, um...
641
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:05,165
They knew the facts
of this case, um...
642
00:39:05,166 --> 00:39:08,124
From a very early-on stage.
643
00:39:08,125 --> 00:39:10,582
They knew the contents
of the video.
644
00:39:10,583 --> 00:39:15,875
But we had a political
storm that was brewing.
645
00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:19,416
President Obama's former
Chief of Staff,
646
00:39:19,417 --> 00:39:21,582
current-Mayor Rahm Emanuel,
647
00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:24,040
is in a race against Cook
County Commissioner
648
00:39:24,041 --> 00:39:25,874
Jesus "Chewy" Garcia.
649
00:39:25,875 --> 00:39:28,207
That Emanuel
even has a competitor
650
00:39:28,208 --> 00:39:31,624
is a stunning setback, but his
failure to win a majority
651
00:39:31,625 --> 00:39:35,667
in the February election
forced him into a run-off.
652
00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:40,749
The run-off election was
absolutely a factor in
653
00:39:40,750 --> 00:39:44,165
the city's suppression
of this tape.
654
00:39:44,166 --> 00:39:46,374
I was... I was ready
to, you know,
655
00:39:46,375 --> 00:39:48,249
"Fuck the city. Let's
file this lawsuit.
656
00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:50,541
Let's release this video."
657
00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:53,040
But then the city called
us back and said,
658
00:39:53,041 --> 00:39:55,249
"We want to discuss
settling it."
659
00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:57,916
And so we had many meetings with.
660
00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:01,834
Laquan's family about what was
the best way to proceed.
661
00:40:02,583 --> 00:40:05,541
And that was something
we agonized about.
662
00:40:05,542 --> 00:40:07,499
The family, of course, has
lost someone,
663
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,124
and they went, "Why can't
this person be charged?"
664
00:40:10,125 --> 00:40:11,833
What's gonna... I want him
kicked off the force.
665
00:40:11,834 --> 00:40:13,374
"I want him in jail."
666
00:40:13,375 --> 00:40:15,582
And you tell them,
"We don't have the power"
667
00:40:15,583 --> 00:40:18,207
to charge somebody
and lock somebody up
668
00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:20,583
or cost them their job.
669
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:23,374
All we can do is ask the city
670
00:40:23,375 --> 00:40:27,166
"to compensate you
for your loss."
671
00:40:27,959 --> 00:40:32,959
And so, since we may not
get him to go to jail...
672
00:40:34,125 --> 00:40:37,749
that settlement became one of
the tools that the family had
673
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:40,458
to fight this Goliath.
674
00:40:41,125 --> 00:40:44,542
We had to throw the hardest
blows that we could throw.
675
00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:06,249
15. Standby.
676
00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:11,333
In five, four, three,
ready int? Two...
677
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,833
Tonight, NBC 5 Investigates, a
Carol Marin exclusive.
678
00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:18,332
Laquan McDonald died
on October 20th
679
00:41:18,333 --> 00:41:22,958
after being shot 16 times by
one Chicago police officer.
680
00:41:22,959 --> 00:41:26,582
Just six months later, the
family of Laquan McDonald
681
00:41:26,583 --> 00:41:30,249
agreed to a $5 million
settlement with the city
682
00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:32,833
prior to any lawsuit
being filed.
683
00:41:32,834 --> 00:41:35,833
There is a huge flag
when the city,
684
00:41:35,834 --> 00:41:39,499
without much argument,
without much discussion,
685
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:43,624
with very little time,
offers $5 million.
686
00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:46,124
We've dealt with any
number of city lawsuits
687
00:41:46,125 --> 00:41:48,541
that linger forever.
688
00:41:48,542 --> 00:41:50,916
So why this and why that fast?
689
00:41:50,917 --> 00:41:55,875
That was... That was the
reddest of red flags.
690
00:41:57,041 --> 00:42:00,040
The City of Chicago denies,
according to the settlement
691
00:42:00,041 --> 00:42:03,833
agreement, allegations
of wrongdoing.
692
00:42:03,834 --> 00:42:09,041
The dash cam video has not
been released by the city.
693
00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:12,207
What happened with the
Laquan McDonald settlement
694
00:42:12,208 --> 00:42:15,207
is that the family or the
lawyers could not release
695
00:42:15,208 --> 00:42:18,499
the video evidence to show us,
in the general public,
696
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:20,625
what really happened that night.
697
00:42:21,709 --> 00:42:24,457
I think Rahm Emanuel, the Mayor,
698
00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:28,833
suppressed this video
to be re-elected in 2015.
699
00:42:28,834 --> 00:42:30,667
Without a doubt.
700
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,582
If this tape would've came out
701
00:42:33,583 --> 00:42:35,416
when he was running
for re-election,
702
00:42:35,417 --> 00:42:37,625
he would've never been elected.
703
00:42:46,583 --> 00:42:49,208
Thank you, Chicago!
704
00:42:57,083 --> 00:43:00,667
Was this a cover-up? I think
it was a cover-up.
705
00:43:02,125 --> 00:43:04,332
- What do we do?
- Stand up, fight back!
706
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:07,582
When black lives are
under attack! What do you do?
707
00:43:07,583 --> 00:43:09,624
- Rise up, fight back!
- What do you do?
708
00:43:09,625 --> 00:43:11,374
Rise up, fight back!
709
00:43:11,375 --> 00:43:13,457
I don't need to see a
video to know that
710
00:43:13,458 --> 00:43:16,332
the Chicago Police Department
consistently lie about things,
711
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:17,916
because that's how the
department is set up.
712
00:43:17,917 --> 00:43:20,750
We must love each other
and protect each other.
713
00:43:21,333 --> 00:43:23,916
I wasn't surprised that
the City of Chicago
714
00:43:23,917 --> 00:43:26,457
and Anita Alvarez, Cook
County's State's Attorney,
715
00:43:26,458 --> 00:43:28,749
was sitting on the video,
716
00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:30,499
the Chicago Police
Department was sitting
717
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:33,958
on the video, because there
was a movement going on
718
00:43:33,959 --> 00:43:36,582
at that time that was
ready to respond.
719
00:43:36,583 --> 00:43:38,708
- Who can you trust?
- Not the police!
720
00:43:38,709 --> 00:43:40,916
Wild afternoon on the
streets here in Chicago,
721
00:43:40,917 --> 00:43:43,541
and the protest ended
in several arrests.
722
00:43:43,542 --> 00:43:45,332
We want people
to demand justice.
723
00:43:45,333 --> 00:43:47,542
We want people to
take to the streets.
724
00:43:49,667 --> 00:43:52,791
At the time, the news
about whether or not the video
725
00:43:52,792 --> 00:43:55,833
would be released, it was
starting to amp up.
726
00:43:55,834 --> 00:43:58,749
And so, there's an
escalation of...
727
00:43:58,750 --> 00:44:01,624
Of both tactics and an
escalation of involvement
728
00:44:01,625 --> 00:44:03,708
from people across the city.
729
00:44:03,709 --> 00:44:05,249
- What do we want?
- Justice!
730
00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:06,708
- When do we want it?
- Now!
731
00:44:06,709 --> 00:44:08,249
- What do we want?
- Justice!
732
00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:09,749
- When do we want it?
- Now!
733
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:12,541
We're in a tough time
for policing right now.
734
00:44:12,542 --> 00:44:15,749
I don't think this climate has
ever existed in the history
735
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:17,374
of American policing.
736
00:44:17,375 --> 00:44:18,958
And so we were being asked,
737
00:44:18,959 --> 00:44:21,249
"What are your demands?"
738
00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:23,457
"Fire the Superintendent,."
739
00:44:23,458 --> 00:44:25,958
Rahm Emanuel resign,
740
00:44:25,959 --> 00:44:30,417
"Anita Alvarez, we will vote
you out of office."
741
00:44:41,667 --> 00:44:44,208
Have you herd o...
Of Kim... Foxx?
742
00:44:47,834 --> 00:44:51,624
If it don't say "Foxx," it
ain't the right box.
743
00:44:51,625 --> 00:44:53,624
Prior to the campaign,
I served 12 years
744
00:44:53,625 --> 00:44:55,999
as an Assistant State's Attorney
here in Cook County.
745
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040
And yes, I do believe that
there's been an issue
746
00:44:59,041 --> 00:45:02,374
of accountability with law
enforcement here in Chicago.
747
00:45:02,375 --> 00:45:03,874
How you doing, sir?
748
00:45:03,875 --> 00:45:05,165
Kim Foxx, running for State's...
749
00:45:05,166 --> 00:45:07,332
- I'm on my way right now.
- All right. I need that vote.
750
00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,874
I need that vote.
751
00:45:08,875 --> 00:45:12,499
- God bless.
- God bless you!
752
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:14,082
- How are you, ma'am?
- How you doin'?
753
00:45:14,083 --> 00:45:16,541
Do the right thing.
Thank you, sir.
754
00:45:16,542 --> 00:45:18,666
- Love you, sis.
- Love you, too.
755
00:45:18,667 --> 00:45:20,791
Thank you.
756
00:45:20,792 --> 00:45:23,667
Chicago...
757
00:45:26,291 --> 00:45:29,708
has not had to reckon
with what happens
758
00:45:29,709 --> 00:45:31,708
when you don't hold folks
in law enforcement
759
00:45:31,709 --> 00:45:35,290
accountable for their misdeeds.
760
00:45:35,291 --> 00:45:37,499
Parts of the force have
acted in a way
761
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,958
where they're immune from
any accountability
762
00:45:40,959 --> 00:45:43,458
for what's happened.
763
00:45:45,083 --> 00:45:48,082
My mother, when I had
my children...
764
00:45:48,083 --> 00:45:52,165
I have two daughters,
uh... was so grateful
765
00:45:52,166 --> 00:45:54,082
that I didn't have sons.
766
00:45:54,083 --> 00:45:57,499
And I thought, "Oh, you're
grateful because you get"
767
00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:59,708
more children that look like me?
768
00:45:59,709 --> 00:46:03,207
"And you get to re-live having...
Having a daughter?"
769
00:46:03,208 --> 00:46:04,666
And she said, "No",
770
00:46:04,667 --> 00:46:07,958
because I don't want you to
feel what it feels like
771
00:46:07,959 --> 00:46:11,541
"to worry about your
son in this city."
772
00:46:11,542 --> 00:46:14,124
And then for so many
in our communities,
773
00:46:14,125 --> 00:46:18,541
that that is a real and
ever-present concern
774
00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,708
about the safety
of their children,
775
00:46:20,709 --> 00:46:23,040
not just by random
violence but also
776
00:46:23,041 --> 00:46:27,125
by the systems that are supposed
to be there to protect them.
777
00:46:31,875 --> 00:46:35,499
A judge is expected to
decide if dash cam video
778
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:38,165
of a teenager being shot and
killed by a Chicago police
779
00:46:38,166 --> 00:46:42,208
officer will be released
to the public.
780
00:46:44,834 --> 00:46:47,791
We got together, we prayed...
781
00:46:47,792 --> 00:46:50,999
and we went in, and we sat down.
782
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,791
I got those jitters. You know,
783
00:46:52,792 --> 00:46:55,959
"We've come this far,
we might lose."
784
00:46:56,917 --> 00:47:00,791
The judge, he began going
through his decision letter.
785
00:47:00,792 --> 00:47:03,333
I think it was about
seven pages.
786
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:06,583
And...
787
00:47:07,208 --> 00:47:10,166
I just was really shocked.
788
00:47:12,083 --> 00:47:16,374
The judge finds,
789
00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:18,040
as we had argued and
as we had showed,
790
00:47:18,041 --> 00:47:22,582
that there was no
legitimate or lawful basis
791
00:47:22,583 --> 00:47:26,833
for the police department
to withhold this video
792
00:47:26,834 --> 00:47:29,332
of a state-killing of
a 17-year-old boy
793
00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:31,333
from the public.
794
00:47:31,959 --> 00:47:35,082
Even though this is
what the law required,
795
00:47:35,083 --> 00:47:38,124
even though this is
the right thing to do,
796
00:47:38,125 --> 00:47:40,457
I don't know that I even
believed that it was happening
797
00:47:40,458 --> 00:47:43,541
as it was happening.
798
00:47:43,542 --> 00:47:45,125
This was historic.
799
00:47:46,291 --> 00:47:48,207
The videotape
will be released and seen
800
00:47:48,208 --> 00:47:50,624
by the public in a
matter of days.
801
00:47:50,625 --> 00:47:52,249
I can't wait any longer,
802
00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:54,040
'cause this video's
gonna be released
803
00:47:54,041 --> 00:47:56,333
and we're all gonna react.
804
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,416
It was a tsunami that I
certainly couldn't stop.
805
00:48:00,417 --> 00:48:03,749
I know that the state would
never have brought
806
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:06,082
murder charges in this case
807
00:48:06,083 --> 00:48:08,082
but for the release
of the video.
808
00:48:08,083 --> 00:48:09,874
There's not a doubt in my mind.
809
00:48:09,875 --> 00:48:12,666
I make my... my... my, um,
810
00:48:12,667 --> 00:48:14,874
decisions based on
facts and evidence.
811
00:48:14,875 --> 00:48:16,833
And so attorneys who are
out there, you know,
812
00:48:16,834 --> 00:48:19,249
making money are
going to, you know,
813
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:21,082
say whatever.
814
00:48:21,083 --> 00:48:22,833
It is my determination
815
00:48:22,834 --> 00:48:25,666
that this police
officer's actions
816
00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:27,749
were not justified
and they were not
817
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:31,082
a proper use of deadly force.
818
00:48:31,083 --> 00:48:33,708
Why did you shoot 16 times?
819
00:48:33,709 --> 00:48:36,249
Mr. Van Dyke, anxiety?
820
00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:39,582
Until the video of this
horrific shooting
821
00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:41,792
was released...
822
00:48:44,041 --> 00:48:46,666
there was a zero chance of...
Of police accountability.
823
00:48:46,667 --> 00:48:49,290
That was the very first
time in our history
824
00:48:49,291 --> 00:48:51,999
that an on-duty Chicago
police officer
825
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,958
had ever been charged
with killing
826
00:48:54,959 --> 00:48:58,166
a black man, woman, or child.
827
00:49:15,375 --> 00:49:17,791
I saw the video...
828
00:49:17,792 --> 00:49:22,166
the day it was released
to the public.
829
00:49:23,166 --> 00:49:28,040
I... I paused initially, um...
830
00:49:28,041 --> 00:49:32,083
because it f...
Something felt really...
831
00:49:33,208 --> 00:49:38,791
perverse about a city
waiting to watch
832
00:49:38,792 --> 00:49:42,374
a video of a boy being killed.
833
00:49:42,375 --> 00:49:46,333
And yet, you felt like
you had to see it.
834
00:50:06,458 --> 00:50:10,208
It wasn't about politics.
835
00:50:12,875 --> 00:50:14,666
As a life-long Chicagoan,
836
00:50:14,667 --> 00:50:17,207
not a candidate, not a...
837
00:50:17,208 --> 00:50:22,541
I thought of my brother, I
thought of my husband.
838
00:50:22,542 --> 00:50:24,374
Um...
839
00:50:24,375 --> 00:50:28,542
And I understood my
mother's angst.
840
00:50:41,709 --> 00:50:44,041
10-4. Anybody close?
841
00:50:51,583 --> 00:50:54,250
Let me know
when he's in custody, guys.
842
00:50:59,542 --> 00:51:01,500
Shots fired by the police.
843
00:51:03,625 --> 00:51:06,417
Get the ambulance over here.
844
00:51:27,417 --> 00:51:31,208
What were your
thoughts when you watched it?
845
00:51:33,709 --> 00:51:37,834
It... It... it was...
846
00:51:39,125 --> 00:51:42,041
That's a good question. Uh...
847
00:51:44,458 --> 00:51:48,040
As... As you look at
something frame-by-frame,
848
00:51:48,041 --> 00:51:51,416
again, without the emotions
that are involved,
849
00:51:51,417 --> 00:51:53,290
you can draw a conclusion.
850
00:51:53,291 --> 00:51:56,666
My conclusion was, you know,
851
00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:59,749
the officer did what
he had to do
852
00:51:59,750 --> 00:52:02,125
to protect himself.
853
00:52:04,792 --> 00:52:09,083
I see a situation that is...
854
00:52:09,583 --> 00:52:12,165
gotten away.
855
00:52:12,166 --> 00:52:15,083
I don't know...
856
00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:19,999
where everybody's head is at
857
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,833
in that situation.
858
00:52:21,834 --> 00:52:23,749
There's a knife.
859
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:25,749
I'm sorry, but that's a threat.
860
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:29,165
If somebody gets near you,
within 21 feet of you,
861
00:52:29,166 --> 00:52:31,833
with an open knife,
862
00:52:31,834 --> 00:52:33,165
you could die.
863
00:52:33,166 --> 00:52:36,958
As you saw, and I've seen,
864
00:52:36,959 --> 00:52:39,624
Laquan McDonald was murdered.
865
00:52:39,625 --> 00:52:43,290
This family wants justice to
be served, and justice for us
866
00:52:43,291 --> 00:52:46,791
is Jason Van Dyke being
convicted of the murder
867
00:52:46,792 --> 00:52:49,333
of Laquan McDonald.
868
00:52:51,333 --> 00:52:53,791
Officer Jason Van
Dyke started shooting
869
00:52:53,792 --> 00:52:56,332
six seconds after he got
out of his vehicle.
870
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:58,374
McDonald was walking
away from the arriving
871
00:52:58,375 --> 00:53:00,874
police vehicles when the
shooting happened.
872
00:53:00,875 --> 00:53:04,499
The officer fired 16
shots in just 15 seconds.
873
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:06,749
The city and
the unions did not tell
874
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:08,332
the truth about what happened.
875
00:53:08,333 --> 00:53:10,833
The Mayor's Office
lied for months about
876
00:53:10,834 --> 00:53:13,375
what's in the video.
877
00:53:15,709 --> 00:53:17,416
At this point, we saw
the utter breakdown
878
00:53:17,417 --> 00:53:19,165
of the machinery.
879
00:53:19,166 --> 00:53:21,958
They don't have control
of the narrative,
880
00:53:21,959 --> 00:53:25,541
and so sources within the city
and the police department,
881
00:53:25,542 --> 00:53:30,040
who have stonewalled the press
in response to every single
882
00:53:30,041 --> 00:53:32,916
question about this case,
883
00:53:32,917 --> 00:53:35,582
start leaking information
884
00:53:35,583 --> 00:53:38,916
that is derogatory towards
the victim.
885
00:53:38,917 --> 00:53:41,332
McDonald was known to
have been carrying knife.
886
00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:43,457
This was a troubled,
troubled boy.
887
00:53:43,458 --> 00:53:45,582
- A ward of the state.
- The tragedy of this
888
00:53:45,583 --> 00:53:48,499
young man's life led to him
making these bad decisions.
889
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:51,416
- It's truly not a murder case.
- PCP in his system.
890
00:53:51,417 --> 00:53:54,416
- PCP in his system.
- PCP, which, is a
891
00:53:54,417 --> 00:53:56,958
psychotic drug, whi-
makes you go crazy.
892
00:53:56,959 --> 00:54:01,165
You don't see anybody
willing to admit that
893
00:54:01,166 --> 00:54:05,374
what we have to do is
go after that monster,
894
00:54:05,375 --> 00:54:08,040
the guy that doesn't belong
on the street with you,
895
00:54:08,041 --> 00:54:11,833
with my wife, with my daughter.
896
00:54:11,834 --> 00:54:16,249
This isn't an Ivy League
college kid we're talkin'.
897
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:19,958
We're not talking to
an Oxford Scholar.
898
00:54:19,959 --> 00:54:22,999
Laquan McDonald could've
had a Oxford sweatshirt on
899
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,249
and it wouldn't have made
a difference whatsoever.
900
00:54:26,250 --> 00:54:28,582
I don't care if he was on PCP.
901
00:54:28,583 --> 00:54:32,457
I don't... I don't care if
Laquan McDonald was high,
902
00:54:32,458 --> 00:54:36,124
if he, um, was aggitational.
903
00:54:36,125 --> 00:54:38,332
He was shot 16 times.
904
00:54:38,333 --> 00:54:40,125
One...
905
00:54:43,291 --> 00:54:46,208
two, three...
906
00:54:47,333 --> 00:54:49,667
four...
907
00:54:53,125 --> 00:54:55,542
five...
908
00:54:56,166 --> 00:54:58,250
six, seven...
909
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,666
eight, nine...
910
00:55:02,667 --> 00:55:06,500
ten, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.
911
00:55:07,333 --> 00:55:11,040
He was shot 16 times.
912
00:55:11,041 --> 00:55:14,374
16 shots - Shut it down!
913
00:55:14,375 --> 00:55:17,833
For some, he was their son,
914
00:55:17,834 --> 00:55:19,582
he was their brother,
915
00:55:19,583 --> 00:55:21,249
he was them.
916
00:55:21,250 --> 00:55:23,874
16 shots! 16 shots!
917
00:55:23,875 --> 00:55:25,165
You know how many
times I ran from
918
00:55:25,166 --> 00:55:28,457
the police growing up?
In this city?
919
00:55:28,458 --> 00:55:30,290
How many times that I was
put in the position where
920
00:55:30,291 --> 00:55:32,499
Chicago police pull guns on me?
921
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:35,082
So when I saw Laquan, I saw me.
922
00:55:35,083 --> 00:55:37,999
- They're still shopping!
- Shut it down!
923
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,833
Shut the stores down!
924
00:55:39,834 --> 00:55:41,708
- Block the store!
- Shut it down!
925
00:55:41,709 --> 00:55:44,290
- Go to the store!
- Protests paralyzing.
926
00:55:44,291 --> 00:55:46,290
- Black Friday shopping.
- One of the busiest,
927
00:55:46,291 --> 00:55:48,708
if not the busiest shopping
day of the year.
928
00:55:48,709 --> 00:55:51,332
We hit the streets hard.
Very hard.
929
00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,457
And we stop their money.
930
00:55:53,458 --> 00:55:56,207
If we disrupt their money,
we disrupt their politics.
931
00:55:56,208 --> 00:55:58,290
We had probably one of
the most powerful economic
932
00:55:58,291 --> 00:56:01,708
protests this city
has ever seen.
933
00:56:01,709 --> 00:56:03,374
The county of Cook
came together,
934
00:56:03,375 --> 00:56:04,958
and they stood with this
family. And they said
935
00:56:04,959 --> 00:56:06,833
that this is wrong.
936
00:56:06,834 --> 00:56:09,207
This is wrong.
937
00:56:09,208 --> 00:56:12,040
16 shots! 16 shots!
938
00:56:12,041 --> 00:56:15,249
16 shots!, 16 shots!,
939
00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:17,542
16 shots!, 16 shots!, 16 shots!
940
00:56:23,458 --> 00:56:25,916
We are here today
941
00:56:25,917 --> 00:56:29,249
because Chicago is facing
a defining moment
942
00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:32,290
on the issues of crime
943
00:56:32,291 --> 00:56:35,250
and policing.
944
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:38,999
The first line
of defense is denial.
945
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,916
The next thing is
"One bad apple."
946
00:56:42,917 --> 00:56:46,666
But now, the entire guts of
the department were exposed.
947
00:56:46,667 --> 00:56:51,874
Nothing can excuse what
happened to Laquan McDonald.
948
00:56:51,875 --> 00:56:57,249
Supervision and leadership
in the police department...
949
00:56:57,250 --> 00:56:59,082
failed.
950
00:56:59,083 --> 00:57:01,582
And that has to change.
951
00:57:01,583 --> 00:57:05,791
No officer should be
allowed to behave
952
00:57:05,792 --> 00:57:08,207
as if they are above the law
953
00:57:08,208 --> 00:57:10,624
just because they
are responsible
954
00:57:10,625 --> 00:57:13,207
for upholding the law.
955
00:57:13,208 --> 00:57:16,624
The problem is sometimes
referred to
956
00:57:16,625 --> 00:57:19,958
as "the Code of Silence."
957
00:57:19,959 --> 00:57:22,958
Mayor Emanuel has
acknowledged a code of silence
958
00:57:22,959 --> 00:57:25,207
exists in the Chicago
Police Department.
959
00:57:25,208 --> 00:57:26,874
- He acknowledged it.
- He acknowledges a problem
960
00:57:26,875 --> 00:57:28,958
that others have
vehemently denied.
961
00:57:28,959 --> 00:57:31,124
- We now have an admission...
- The Chief of the Police Union
962
00:57:31,125 --> 00:57:34,624
declared today, "There is no
'Code of Silence' in Chicago."
963
00:57:34,625 --> 00:57:39,624
After all," he said,
"this is not 1950."
964
00:57:39,625 --> 00:57:41,999
So you're saying that I'm a liar
965
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,791
because I got a police
patch on my shoulder.
966
00:57:45,792 --> 00:57:49,666
Or I can't be trusted when
I raise my hand in court.
967
00:57:49,667 --> 00:57:52,916
To ask for us to admit
968
00:57:52,917 --> 00:57:56,999
that we go out of our
way to conspire...
969
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,207
is... is an insult.
970
00:57:59,208 --> 00:58:00,791
If there is no
"Code of Silence,"
971
00:58:00,792 --> 00:58:03,582
why do all the officer
statements look the same?
972
00:58:03,583 --> 00:58:06,958
You got me. And I got to be
honest with you now,
973
00:58:06,959 --> 00:58:09,666
I do not like
974
00:58:09,667 --> 00:58:13,833
the way we're going
with this interview.
975
00:58:13,834 --> 00:58:16,332
The Mayor said, "The
'Code of Silence'"
976
00:58:16,333 --> 00:58:20,165
goes through the
police department."
977
00:58:20,166 --> 00:58:21,833
Nonsense.
978
00:58:21,834 --> 00:58:24,332
The Mayor controls
the police department.
979
00:58:24,333 --> 00:58:26,290
You tell me what it means.
980
00:58:26,291 --> 00:58:28,290
Will you resign?
Should you resign?
981
00:58:28,291 --> 00:58:30,874
I'm not gonna resign.
Um, and... and
982
00:58:30,875 --> 00:58:34,290
I go all day long with people
coming up to me and saying,
983
00:58:34,291 --> 00:58:36,207
"Stay strong.
We've got your back."
984
00:58:36,208 --> 00:58:39,499
Superintendent McCarthy
knows that a police officer
985
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:41,499
is only as effective
as when he has
986
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:44,040
the trust of those he serves.
987
00:58:44,041 --> 00:58:48,624
This morning, I formally
asked for his resignation.
988
00:58:48,625 --> 00:58:52,457
I become accountable for things
that I'm not in control of.
989
00:58:52,458 --> 00:58:56,250
And accountability without
authority is failure.
990
00:58:57,250 --> 00:59:03,374
16 years of really strong
executive leadership.
991
00:59:03,375 --> 00:59:05,749
I really thought that
I was going to be
992
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:08,207
one of the individuals
that helped...
993
00:59:08,208 --> 00:59:10,416
That would help take
policing through
994
00:59:10,417 --> 00:59:12,958
the most troubled
time in its history.
995
00:59:12,959 --> 00:59:16,207
Uh, and instead, here
I am on the sidelines,
996
00:59:16,208 --> 00:59:21,082
watching it. Watching it
spiral out of control.
997
00:59:21,083 --> 00:59:24,291
We're reaching mayhem.
998
00:59:39,667 --> 00:59:41,290
The Mayor
announced the formation
999
00:59:41,291 --> 00:59:43,708
- of a task force...
- To help restore public
1000
00:59:43,709 --> 00:59:46,416
trust and confidence
in the police,
1001
00:59:46,417 --> 00:59:49,333
that are now sorely lacking.
1002
01:00:05,792 --> 01:00:07,791
We believe that these meetings,
1003
01:00:07,792 --> 01:00:09,582
uh... serve a very
valuable purpose.
1004
01:00:09,583 --> 01:00:11,207
We've had them all
over the city,
1005
01:00:11,208 --> 01:00:13,124
the West side, the South side.
1006
01:00:13,125 --> 01:00:15,332
And we will call on
those who have signed up
1007
01:00:15,333 --> 01:00:18,124
in advance to speak
so that we can provide
1008
01:00:18,125 --> 01:00:22,249
as much time as possible
for public comment.
1009
01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:24,207
Janée.
1010
01:00:24,208 --> 01:00:26,542
Hi, Janée. How are you?
1011
01:00:33,250 --> 01:00:34,791
This didn't happen
1012
01:00:34,792 --> 01:00:37,624
because Laquan McDonald
was shot 16 times, right?
1013
01:00:37,625 --> 01:00:40,834
This only happened after
a year of a cover-up.
1014
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:05,917
Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!
1015
01:01:13,375 --> 01:01:15,958
You can never bring
Laquan McDonald back.
1016
01:01:15,959 --> 01:01:18,207
One of the things that we can
do, though, is hold people
1017
01:01:18,208 --> 01:01:21,165
that knew about this that
covered it up accountable.
1018
01:01:21,166 --> 01:01:25,040
The State's Attorney, who has
participated in the cover-up
1019
01:01:25,041 --> 01:01:27,667
of Laquan McDonald,
should be held accountable.
1020
01:01:49,166 --> 01:01:54,499
I, too, do not have confidence
in Ms. Anita Alvarez.
1021
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:56,416
I have it on extreme
good authority
1022
01:01:56,417 --> 01:02:01,249
that Mayor Emanuel's
strategic political advisors,
1023
01:02:01,250 --> 01:02:04,749
They met day... the next
day or two days after
1024
01:02:04,750 --> 01:02:07,916
I announced charges
to discuss the fact
1025
01:02:07,917 --> 01:02:11,290
that they were all
going to somehow
1026
01:02:11,291 --> 01:02:14,874
point the finger at
me to distract
1027
01:02:14,875 --> 01:02:18,416
any kind of criticism
of the Mayor.
1028
01:02:18,417 --> 01:02:22,040
David Axelrod, one of the
chief political strategists
1029
01:02:22,041 --> 01:02:24,416
in this country, coming
from the White House
1030
01:02:24,417 --> 01:02:29,749
and working with Rahm Emanuel,
starts tweeting about me.
1031
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:31,791
And it was so convenient now,
1032
01:02:31,792 --> 01:02:34,999
because he barely
won his re-election,
1033
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,958
they didn't want
him to be beat up,
1034
01:02:36,959 --> 01:02:39,374
they didn't want him to be
criticized, and suddenly,
1035
01:02:39,375 --> 01:02:42,290
I take the brunt of all of this,
1036
01:02:42,291 --> 01:02:46,165
and I get portrayed as
some kind of monster.
1037
01:02:46,166 --> 01:02:48,541
Anita Alvarez is still
leading in the polls.
1038
01:02:48,542 --> 01:02:50,999
I remember the election
day, just, like,
1039
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,959
wanting to throw up.
1040
01:03:01,291 --> 01:03:03,457
My daughters were
with me and my husband
1041
01:03:03,458 --> 01:03:08,541
and my brother was there.
1042
01:03:08,542 --> 01:03:13,125
And the room was packed,
and it was hot.
1043
01:03:25,917 --> 01:03:30,333
Kim Foxx! Kim
Foxx! Kim Foxx! Kim Foxx!
1044
01:03:33,208 --> 01:03:36,417
And my first thought was...
1045
01:03:38,291 --> 01:03:42,332
Dang it. My mother and my
grandmother would be so proud.
1046
01:03:42,333 --> 01:03:46,332
This race is not so much just
about saying "Goodbye."
1047
01:03:46,333 --> 01:03:48,999
It's about turning the page,
and I understand the
1048
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,999
excitement.
1049
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,624
I understand the excitement,
but let us not get lost
1050
01:03:53,625 --> 01:03:56,040
in the gravity of the
work that is ahead of us.
1051
01:03:56,041 --> 01:03:59,499
My second thought was...
1052
01:03:59,500 --> 01:04:02,541
"Don't fuck it up."
1053
01:04:02,542 --> 01:04:05,290
The Black Lives movement
and related protest groups
1054
01:04:05,291 --> 01:04:06,582
are claiming credit.
1055
01:04:06,583 --> 01:04:08,541
First, it was Superintendent
Garry McCarthy.
1056
01:04:08,542 --> 01:04:10,582
Last night, Anita Alvarez.
1057
01:04:10,583 --> 01:04:14,624
- Two down!
- One to go!
1058
01:04:14,625 --> 01:04:16,958
I will still hold
Kim Foxx accountable
1059
01:04:16,959 --> 01:04:21,709
if her actions don't align
with her rhetoric, for sure.
1060
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,666
Almost overnight, the
power and legitimacy
1061
01:04:25,667 --> 01:04:27,916
of city institutions...
1062
01:04:27,917 --> 01:04:29,332
cratered.
1063
01:04:29,333 --> 01:04:31,667
Utterly cratered.
1064
01:04:34,375 --> 01:04:37,791
And that creates this
unprecedented opportunity
1065
01:04:37,792 --> 01:04:42,457
in Chicago and nationally
for real police reform.
1066
01:04:42,458 --> 01:04:45,207
But a backlash was
also building.
1067
01:04:45,208 --> 01:04:47,249
Repeat after me.
1068
01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:49,082
I, having been appointed
to the office
1069
01:04:49,083 --> 01:04:51,457
- of the police officer...
- I, having been appointed
1070
01:04:51,458 --> 01:04:53,290
to the office of
the police officer...
1071
01:04:53,291 --> 01:04:55,499
- to the City of Chicago.
- To the City of Chicago.
1072
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:57,624
Police are the sheepdogs,
1073
01:04:57,625 --> 01:05:02,582
the protectors of the
flock from the wolves
1074
01:05:02,583 --> 01:05:05,040
that exist in society.
1075
01:05:05,041 --> 01:05:06,624
That I will
support the Constitution
1076
01:05:06,625 --> 01:05:08,582
- of the United States.
- And the Constitution
1077
01:05:08,583 --> 01:05:12,416
- of the State of Illinois.
- The problem becomes
1078
01:05:12,417 --> 01:05:16,916
the sheepdog looks
very much like a wolf.
1079
01:05:16,917 --> 01:05:19,582
They keep going
after the police.
1080
01:05:19,583 --> 01:05:21,499
The police are the bad guys.
1081
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:24,582
"Hey, we got a video.
He was wrong.
1082
01:05:24,583 --> 01:05:26,416
Charge him with murder."
1083
01:05:26,417 --> 01:05:27,708
Charge him with murder?
1084
01:05:27,709 --> 01:05:30,791
What are you talking about?
1085
01:05:30,792 --> 01:05:35,207
We can jump back to
Baltimore, Freddie Gray,
1086
01:05:35,208 --> 01:05:37,875
Ferguson...
1087
01:05:39,291 --> 01:05:42,792
Eric Garner in New York.
1088
01:05:43,959 --> 01:05:46,290
How many people were convicted?
1089
01:05:46,291 --> 01:05:48,791
The grand jury has just
decided not to indict
1090
01:05:48,792 --> 01:05:52,499
a New York City police officer
over the death of Eric Garner.
1091
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:54,916
All six Baltimore
police officers
1092
01:05:54,917 --> 01:05:56,249
charged in the death
of Freddie Gray
1093
01:05:56,250 --> 01:05:57,708
have been cleared.
1094
01:05:57,709 --> 01:06:01,166
There is going to be
no indictment.
1095
01:06:02,125 --> 01:06:06,709
I'm reminded of Rodney King.
1096
01:06:08,166 --> 01:06:10,958
What the country needs
to look at is
1097
01:06:10,959 --> 01:06:13,709
how it plays out in court.
1098
01:06:16,834 --> 01:06:18,958
Am I gonna win this case?
1099
01:06:18,959 --> 01:06:21,124
Come on, people. Make a hole!
1100
01:06:21,125 --> 01:06:23,624
I will tell you after
I pick the jury
1101
01:06:23,625 --> 01:06:26,083
what my odds are.
1102
01:06:42,291 --> 01:06:44,666
It was a tense time.
It was a tense time
1103
01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:47,208
while we was waiting.
1104
01:06:48,709 --> 01:06:53,249
All these cases where we've
seen African-Americans
1105
01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:56,833
killed o... on camera.
1106
01:06:56,834 --> 01:06:59,791
Alton Sterling, on-camera.
1107
01:06:59,792 --> 01:07:02,750
Eric Garner, on-camera.
1108
01:07:04,208 --> 01:07:09,208
So was I nervous?
Yeah, I was nervous.
1109
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:12,541
We want justice for all
the names and every...
1110
01:07:12,542 --> 01:07:16,165
Every life that was taken by
Chicago Police Department.
1111
01:07:16,166 --> 01:07:18,749
This corruption runs deep.
It runs deep.
1112
01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:21,541
It'll be four years since
Laquan's been shot, man.
1113
01:07:21,542 --> 01:07:24,040
And we still haven't
got any type of justice
1114
01:07:24,041 --> 01:07:25,374
for Laquan McDonald.
1115
01:07:25,375 --> 01:07:28,916
And I'm not gonna stop
until we get justice.
1116
01:07:28,917 --> 01:07:31,416
- Say 16 shots!
- 16 shots!
1117
01:07:31,417 --> 01:07:34,582
- 16 shots!
- 16 shots!
1118
01:07:34,583 --> 01:07:36,833
- 16 shots and a cover-up!
- What?
1119
01:07:36,834 --> 01:07:39,833
- 16 shots and a cover-up!
- What?
1120
01:07:39,834 --> 01:07:43,207
Laquan McDonald was
shot 16 times
1121
01:07:43,208 --> 01:07:46,708
by police officer Jason
Van Dyke, and he died.
1122
01:07:46,709 --> 01:07:48,040
That... That happened.
1123
01:07:48,041 --> 01:07:51,416
Was he murdered?
Or was he killed?
1124
01:07:51,417 --> 01:07:55,082
Did a child die?
Or did a suspect die?
1125
01:07:55,083 --> 01:07:56,749
All of those things
are dependent
1126
01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:58,792
on how we respond.
1127
01:08:05,166 --> 01:08:07,040
Going to jail,
1128
01:08:07,041 --> 01:08:10,666
the whole damn system
is guilty as hell.
1129
01:08:10,667 --> 01:08:14,749
I braced myself
for a "not guilty" verdict.
1130
01:08:14,750 --> 01:08:18,124
I didn't even think
about the possibility
1131
01:08:18,125 --> 01:08:20,290
of any police officer
being found guilty
1132
01:08:20,291 --> 01:08:23,125
in the killing of
a black person.
1133
01:08:23,667 --> 01:08:27,249
We did a rally here
the day before the trial.
1134
01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:30,416
One of the reporters had
pulled me to the side.
1135
01:08:30,417 --> 01:08:33,290
"I want to ask you something
but I want to get your
1136
01:08:33,291 --> 01:08:37,083
response while I ask you."
1137
01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:39,958
I remember just freezing.
1138
01:08:39,959 --> 01:08:41,374
Breaking news from City Hall,
1139
01:08:41,375 --> 01:08:44,290
and a bombshell announcement
from Mayor Rahm Emanuel
1140
01:08:44,291 --> 01:08:46,916
during a news conference
just moments ago.
1141
01:08:46,917 --> 01:08:48,791
As much as I love this job
1142
01:08:48,792 --> 01:08:52,124
and will always love this
city and its residents,
1143
01:08:52,125 --> 01:08:54,332
I have decided not
to seek re-election.
1144
01:08:54,333 --> 01:08:56,332
The announcement from
Mayor Rahm Emanuel
1145
01:08:56,333 --> 01:08:58,165
that caught most of
Chicago off-guard.
1146
01:08:58,166 --> 01:08:59,666
Sources close to the
Mayor said they were
1147
01:08:59,667 --> 01:09:03,332
95% sure he would
run for re-election.
1148
01:09:03,333 --> 01:09:05,165
Today, we saw the 5%.
1149
01:09:05,166 --> 01:09:06,958
Garry McCarthy gone,
1150
01:09:06,959 --> 01:09:09,040
Anita Alvarez gone,
1151
01:09:09,041 --> 01:09:11,332
now Rahm Emanuel gone.
1152
01:09:11,333 --> 01:09:13,874
This is the former
Chief of Staff
1153
01:09:13,875 --> 01:09:17,791
for the 44th President
of the United States.
1154
01:09:17,792 --> 01:09:20,499
I mean, that's heavy.
1155
01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:22,124
Emanuel made no mention
1156
01:09:22,125 --> 01:09:24,416
of the looming trial
of Jason Van Dyke.
1157
01:09:24,417 --> 01:09:26,624
Van Dyke is charged
with first-degree murder
1158
01:09:26,625 --> 01:09:30,249
and 16 counts of aggravated
battery with a firearm,
1159
01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:33,583
a count for each time
he shot McDonald.
1160
01:09:34,667 --> 01:09:38,708
There was quite a
euphoric mood on the street.
1161
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:42,332
The trial finally beginning and
then the Mayor's announcement...
1162
01:09:42,333 --> 01:09:43,708
The judge and
jury expected to hear
1163
01:09:43,709 --> 01:09:45,916
opening statements in
the long-awaited trial
1164
01:09:45,917 --> 01:09:49,583
of Chicago police
officer Jason Van Dyke.
1165
01:09:51,291 --> 01:09:55,457
That first day, you could feel
the tension in the room.
1166
01:09:55,458 --> 01:09:59,374
I just wanted to be there,
um... as a means of support
1167
01:09:59,375 --> 01:10:01,999
and to demonstrate to
the officers out there
1168
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,374
in the vehicles that somebody is
1169
01:10:04,375 --> 01:10:06,834
standing with this kid.
1170
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:10,207
It was intense.
You had one side that was.
1171
01:10:10,208 --> 01:10:14,624
Laquan's family, community
members, and supporters.
1172
01:10:14,625 --> 01:10:17,249
And then, you had another
side, which was
1173
01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:19,624
Jason Van Dyke's family
1174
01:10:19,625 --> 01:10:22,916
and Fraternal Order of
Police union members,
1175
01:10:22,917 --> 01:10:25,166
and supporters.
1176
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:29,749
The courtroom is the stage.
1177
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:31,332
It's literally a stage.
1178
01:10:31,333 --> 01:10:35,750
The jury is a kind of
silent Greek chorus.
1179
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,791
You knew it made history.
1180
01:10:37,792 --> 01:10:39,749
For a Chicago police
to be on trial
1181
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:42,749
in the first place for
murder, number one.
1182
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:45,541
And for murdering a black
person, number two.
1183
01:10:45,542 --> 01:10:49,207
I was like, "Okay, how are they
gonna perceive me?"
1184
01:10:49,208 --> 01:10:51,582
Since I was the only black.
1185
01:10:51,583 --> 01:10:53,249
It was like, oh my God...
1186
01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:55,666
They introduce you to
the defense team,
1187
01:10:55,667 --> 01:10:57,457
and the prosecution team,
1188
01:10:57,458 --> 01:11:00,499
and you're going, "Wow,
this is for real."
1189
01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:02,040
But it doesn't...
It didn't feel real.
1190
01:11:02,041 --> 01:11:04,124
It felt surreal. So many times,
1191
01:11:04,125 --> 01:11:07,625
it felt surreal.
1192
01:11:16,625 --> 01:11:17,500
This branch of the Circuit Court
1193
01:11:17,501 --> 01:11:20,000
of Cook County is
now in session.
1194
01:11:21,458 --> 01:11:24,457
This courtroom was
packed. It was filled.
1195
01:11:24,458 --> 01:11:26,249
People were stuffed in there,
1196
01:11:26,250 --> 01:11:29,375
and you could've
heard a pin drop.
1197
01:11:31,291 --> 01:11:34,290
The silence was deafening.
1198
01:11:34,291 --> 01:11:37,207
The story in this case
1199
01:11:37,208 --> 01:11:40,290
is a story written,
1200
01:11:40,291 --> 01:11:45,165
directed, and orchestrated
by one person:
1201
01:11:45,166 --> 01:11:47,500
Laquan McDonald.
1202
01:11:48,667 --> 01:11:50,416
Think about it like
a horror movie.
1203
01:11:50,417 --> 01:11:54,040
You see the villain walking
down the street.
1204
01:11:54,041 --> 01:11:56,290
Not very fearful, but when
he stops and he turns
1205
01:11:56,291 --> 01:12:00,290
and makes eye contact
with the victim,
1206
01:12:00,291 --> 01:12:02,499
then that's when the
music starts to play.
1207
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:04,666
Well, that's what happened here.
1208
01:12:04,667 --> 01:12:06,666
We filed a motion, and actually,
1209
01:12:06,667 --> 01:12:10,040
that motion was granted,
that the prosecution
1210
01:12:10,041 --> 01:12:13,332
cannot refer to Laquan
McDonald as a "victim."
1211
01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:15,833
Laquan McDonald was,
uh, was an offender
1212
01:12:15,834 --> 01:12:19,708
in this case and was
a dangerous person.
1213
01:12:19,709 --> 01:12:23,499
Laquan McDonald goes over to
him... and attempts to stab.
1214
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,207
I remember that Laquan
was in and out of
1215
01:12:26,208 --> 01:12:29,374
juvenile detention, um...
1216
01:12:29,375 --> 01:12:31,999
Had several scrapes
with the law.
1217
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,958
Um, so they were
setting him up to...
1218
01:12:34,959 --> 01:12:37,082
To look like a... a bad guy,
1219
01:12:37,083 --> 01:12:39,290
a... a kid gone wrong.
1220
01:12:39,291 --> 01:12:43,833
Shows the story of a
out-of-control individual
1221
01:12:43,834 --> 01:12:45,874
who didn't care about anyone.
1222
01:12:45,875 --> 01:12:48,958
It was classic putting
the victim on trial.
1223
01:12:48,959 --> 01:12:50,541
That's all it was. It was jus...
1224
01:12:50,542 --> 01:12:54,541
It was classic. That's
what they always do.
1225
01:12:54,542 --> 01:12:58,499
I didn't ever f... think
of it that way,
1226
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:00,207
that he's putting the
victim on trial.
1227
01:13:00,208 --> 01:13:01,749
I didn't think of it that way.
1228
01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:03,999
I just thought of it
as that he was
1229
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,541
raising serious questions and...
1230
01:13:06,542 --> 01:13:10,124
And hoping that maybe some
of the jurors would think,
1231
01:13:10,125 --> 01:13:12,624
"You know, this kid
was so rotten and bad,"
1232
01:13:12,625 --> 01:13:15,249
of course he was
about ready to, uh,
1233
01:13:15,250 --> 01:13:17,541
"run after Jason."
1234
01:13:17,542 --> 01:13:19,416
I don't care how you
twist this thing around,
1235
01:13:19,417 --> 01:13:21,582
how you turn it around,
1236
01:13:21,583 --> 01:13:23,374
Van Dyke is not the victim.
1237
01:13:23,375 --> 01:13:25,624
The victim is in the cemetery.
1238
01:13:25,625 --> 01:13:27,417
That's the victim.
1239
01:13:45,250 --> 01:13:46,916
I sat on the right side.
1240
01:13:46,917 --> 01:13:52,332
So about two rows were full
of F.O.P. union members, right?
1241
01:13:52,333 --> 01:13:55,124
Right when they was about to
call Officer McElligott
1242
01:13:55,125 --> 01:13:59,249
names out, the whole two
rows got up and walked out.
1243
01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:03,833
J-O-S-E-P-H M-C-E-L-L-I-G-O-T-T.
1244
01:14:03,834 --> 01:14:06,082
And by whom are
you employed, sir?
1245
01:14:06,083 --> 01:14:08,791
Chicago Police Department.
1246
01:14:08,792 --> 01:14:11,958
He's called to the
stand and he's clearly
1247
01:14:11,959 --> 01:14:14,332
not happy to be there.
1248
01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:17,916
He's the initial responder
the night of the incident.
1249
01:14:17,917 --> 01:14:20,749
And when he takes the stand,
it's the first time the public
1250
01:14:20,750 --> 01:14:23,290
has heard a police officer
describe what happened
1251
01:14:23,291 --> 01:14:25,833
- that night.
- On October 20th,
1252
01:14:25,834 --> 01:14:29,833
did you respond to
a dispatch call?
1253
01:14:29,834 --> 01:14:32,000
Yes.
1254
01:14:36,417 --> 01:14:38,207
There was a 911 call that
1255
01:14:38,208 --> 01:14:40,165
someone's been trying
to break into trucks
1256
01:14:40,166 --> 01:14:41,833
in a truck yard.
1257
01:14:41,834 --> 01:14:43,499
He took his
hands out of his pockets
1258
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:46,499
and he had a knife in his hand.
1259
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:48,708
Did he do anything
with that knife?
1260
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:50,874
He just held it.
1261
01:14:50,875 --> 01:14:53,124
They ask the
boy to drop the knife,
1262
01:14:53,125 --> 01:14:54,999
he doesn't respond.
1263
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,916
As opposed to ratcheting
up the encounter,
1264
01:14:57,917 --> 01:15:00,166
they call for a taser.
1265
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,165
They don't ask for massive
backup, they ask for a taser.
1266
01:15:05,166 --> 01:15:06,833
I just kept my distance.
1267
01:15:06,834 --> 01:15:09,708
I had my flashlight out and
I had my gun out on him,
1268
01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:11,709
just watched his move.
1269
01:15:13,875 --> 01:15:16,124
There's a second video that
1270
01:15:16,125 --> 01:15:19,040
has not been widely seen.
1271
01:15:19,041 --> 01:15:21,374
It's surveillance video
from a couple of blocks
1272
01:15:21,375 --> 01:15:25,457
from the site of the shooting.
1273
01:15:25,458 --> 01:15:28,249
McElligott's gotten out
of the police vehicle
1274
01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:31,916
and is walking behind
Laquan McDonald.
1275
01:15:31,917 --> 01:15:33,874
There's nobody else
around, they're not
1276
01:15:33,875 --> 01:15:37,416
protecting anybody from him.
1277
01:15:37,417 --> 01:15:39,999
There's certainly no evidence
of anything combative
1278
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,374
on the part of Laquan McDonald,
1279
01:15:42,375 --> 01:15:44,749
but nor is there anything
provocative about
1280
01:15:44,750 --> 01:15:46,833
the behavior of the officers.
1281
01:15:46,834 --> 01:15:48,791
Did he threaten
you with the knife?
1282
01:15:48,792 --> 01:15:51,582
No. Uh, we walked...
1283
01:15:51,583 --> 01:15:55,207
all the way to the car lot.
1284
01:15:55,208 --> 01:15:57,457
In fact, these officers are
1285
01:15:57,458 --> 01:16:00,958
accompanying Laquan
McDonald towards his death.
1286
01:16:00,959 --> 01:16:05,083
They don't know it.
He doesn't know it.
1287
01:16:07,583 --> 01:16:08,916
Moments later,
1288
01:16:08,917 --> 01:16:10,708
Van Dyke gets out of his car,
1289
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:14,792
and within a matter of
seconds, has shot the boy.
1290
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:19,207
They're standing there
witnessing
1291
01:16:19,208 --> 01:16:21,667
a gratuitous atrocity.
1292
01:16:26,083 --> 01:16:29,792
Why didn't you fire your weapon?
1293
01:16:31,792 --> 01:16:37,291
Um... He didn't make any
direct movement at me,
1294
01:16:37,792 --> 01:16:40,624
and I felt like my partner
was protected,
1295
01:16:40,625 --> 01:16:44,792
for the most part,
inside the vehicle.
1296
01:16:51,792 --> 01:16:54,958
I mean, you're the police.
1297
01:16:54,959 --> 01:16:59,082
In my day, that kid
never gets to Pulaski.
1298
01:16:59,083 --> 01:17:01,416
Never. You know?
1299
01:17:01,417 --> 01:17:04,791
You take him, somehow,
1300
01:17:04,792 --> 01:17:07,499
when he's leaving
that truck yard.
1301
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:09,749
He never gets that far.
1302
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:11,666
So if McElligott
had done his job,
1303
01:17:11,667 --> 01:17:14,416
none of this would
have happened?
1304
01:17:14,417 --> 01:17:16,833
You know, what McElligott
does or doesn't do
1305
01:17:16,834 --> 01:17:19,541
turns into what we
have on Pulaski.
1306
01:17:19,542 --> 01:17:22,374
They look at them as a rat.
1307
01:17:22,375 --> 01:17:25,624
Or traitors, you know?
1308
01:17:25,625 --> 01:17:28,624
For not maintaining this
Blue Code of Silence
1309
01:17:28,625 --> 01:17:31,958
inside the Chicago
Police Department.
1310
01:17:31,959 --> 01:17:33,457
Were you surprised
to see officers
1311
01:17:33,458 --> 01:17:36,165
breaking rank to testify?
1312
01:17:36,166 --> 01:17:39,332
Yeah, I was.
1313
01:17:39,333 --> 01:17:41,834
I was shocked.
1314
01:17:49,792 --> 01:17:51,374
The trial of
a white police officer
1315
01:17:51,375 --> 01:17:52,999
charged with murdering
a black teenager
1316
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,833
- resumes today.
- Of course, there are a lot
1317
01:17:54,834 --> 01:17:56,874
a lot of crucial decisions
that need to be made,
1318
01:17:56,875 --> 01:17:59,708
including whether Jason
Van Dyke will testify
1319
01:17:59,709 --> 01:18:02,207
- on his own behalf.
- The defense still has not said
1320
01:18:02,208 --> 01:18:04,374
whether Van Dyke himself
will take the stand.
1321
01:18:04,375 --> 01:18:07,290
Jason Van Dyke, taking
the stand in his own defense.
1322
01:18:07,291 --> 01:18:10,457
It doesn't happen very often.
1323
01:18:10,458 --> 01:18:12,874
I mean, I was a prosecutor.
1324
01:18:12,875 --> 01:18:15,624
You know, I recognize
the significance of
1325
01:18:15,625 --> 01:18:19,666
a defendant taking
a witness stand.
1326
01:18:19,667 --> 01:18:21,791
But we knew, at that
point in time,
1327
01:18:21,792 --> 01:18:24,332
that jury had to hear
from Jason Van Dyke.
1328
01:18:24,333 --> 01:18:26,833
And Jason Van Dyke
had to convince them
1329
01:18:26,834 --> 01:18:30,207
that he was not guilty of
first-degree murder.
1330
01:18:30,208 --> 01:18:34,416
Right before Jason
testified, I literally
1331
01:18:34,417 --> 01:18:37,082
sweat through my shirt,
1332
01:18:37,083 --> 01:18:40,582
because I was so nervous
about his testimony.
1333
01:18:40,583 --> 01:18:45,290
Jason Van Dyke. V-A-N D-Y-K-E.
1334
01:18:45,291 --> 01:18:46,874
How old are you, Jason?
1335
01:18:46,875 --> 01:18:49,458
I'm 40 years old.
1336
01:18:51,083 --> 01:18:53,541
We were staring at each other.
1337
01:18:53,542 --> 01:18:55,124
He told me, he says, "You know",
1338
01:18:55,125 --> 01:18:58,124
I was watching you, looking at
you when I was testifying."
1339
01:18:58,125 --> 01:18:59,582
Which kind of gave me the...
1340
01:18:59,583 --> 01:19:00,708
I knew he was,
1341
01:19:00,709 --> 01:19:02,582
but he didn't have to tell me.
1342
01:19:02,583 --> 01:19:03,916
You know, we were
making eye contact
1343
01:19:03,917 --> 01:19:06,040
and he was trying to relax.
1344
01:19:06,041 --> 01:19:07,582
Did you see Laquan
McDonald when you got
1345
01:19:07,583 --> 01:19:09,082
- out of the car?
- Yes.
1346
01:19:09,083 --> 01:19:11,916
And could you see him? His face?
1347
01:19:11,917 --> 01:19:14,999
His face had no expression.
1348
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,582
His eyes were just bugging
out of his head.
1349
01:19:17,583 --> 01:19:20,541
He had just these huge...
1350
01:19:20,542 --> 01:19:24,792
wide eyes just staring
right through me.
1351
01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:28,040
He turned his torso towards me.
1352
01:19:28,041 --> 01:19:32,083
And what, if anything,
did he do with his arm?
1353
01:19:33,041 --> 01:19:37,290
He waved the knife from his
lower right side upwards,
1354
01:19:37,291 --> 01:19:41,875
across his body towards
my left shoulder.
1355
01:19:44,750 --> 01:19:47,457
And when he did that,
what did you do, officer?
1356
01:19:47,458 --> 01:19:49,500
I shot him.
1357
01:19:54,375 --> 01:19:56,792
It's crocodile tears.
1358
01:19:57,792 --> 01:20:01,165
For me, it was like
the audacity...
1359
01:20:01,166 --> 01:20:03,833
for you to get up there
and act like you a victim.
1360
01:20:03,834 --> 01:20:06,290
For you to act like you the
victim out of all of this,
1361
01:20:06,291 --> 01:20:08,207
the audacity.
1362
01:20:08,208 --> 01:20:10,666
You murdered this young man.
1363
01:20:10,667 --> 01:20:12,374
In cold blood.
1364
01:20:12,375 --> 01:20:15,666
And you have no remorse.
He has no remorse.
1365
01:20:15,667 --> 01:20:17,457
I felt bad for him, you know?
1366
01:20:17,458 --> 01:20:19,582
I felt, uh, I could see
him breaking up,
1367
01:20:19,583 --> 01:20:22,165
because he got confused
a little bit.
1368
01:20:22,166 --> 01:20:23,666
During those six
seconds, you're getting
1369
01:20:23,667 --> 01:20:27,040
closer to him, correct?
1370
01:20:27,041 --> 01:20:28,833
I now know that, yeah.
I... I took a couple
1371
01:20:28,834 --> 01:20:31,332
steps towards him, yeah.
1372
01:20:31,333 --> 01:20:33,374
Well, you took
more than a couple steps,
1373
01:20:33,375 --> 01:20:35,207
because you go all
the way up past
1374
01:20:35,208 --> 01:20:37,833
your squad car, correct?
1375
01:20:37,834 --> 01:20:41,207
The end of your squad car?
1376
01:20:41,208 --> 01:20:42,958
I'm not sure.
1377
01:20:42,959 --> 01:20:45,457
I just killed somebody.
1378
01:20:45,458 --> 01:20:49,958
I'm from a suburb
outside Chicago
1379
01:20:49,959 --> 01:20:54,207
in a very non-diverse
environment I grew up in.
1380
01:20:54,208 --> 01:20:57,624
And I come into the middle of
1381
01:20:57,625 --> 01:20:59,708
the most violent city
in one of the most
1382
01:20:59,709 --> 01:21:03,040
violent neighborhoods,
and you're telling me
1383
01:21:03,041 --> 01:21:05,499
I should've realized I stepped
1384
01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:07,249
forward or backward?
1385
01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:10,249
I could see...
1386
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:13,875
You know, I could s...
1387
01:21:20,083 --> 01:21:23,040
I could see him starting to
push up with his left hand
1388
01:21:23,041 --> 01:21:26,040
off the ground.
1389
01:21:26,041 --> 01:21:28,416
And I see his left shoulder
start to come up,
1390
01:21:28,417 --> 01:21:30,624
and I still see him holding
that... that knife
1391
01:21:30,625 --> 01:21:35,082
with his right hand,
not letting go of it.
1392
01:21:35,083 --> 01:21:37,040
And his eyes are
still bugged out,
1393
01:21:37,041 --> 01:21:40,750
his face has got no
expression on it.
1394
01:21:42,250 --> 01:21:46,749
What was so palpable with
Jason Van Dyke was the...
1395
01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,874
The reality of his fear.
1396
01:21:48,875 --> 01:21:51,916
All he kind of had to
stand on was his...
1397
01:21:51,917 --> 01:21:53,666
Was his fear.
1398
01:21:53,667 --> 01:21:57,416
All he could coherently say
about what happened that night
1399
01:21:57,417 --> 01:22:01,250
was that he was terrified.
1400
01:22:02,583 --> 01:22:04,374
Four years after the shooting,
1401
01:22:04,375 --> 01:22:06,499
the trial and case have taken on
1402
01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:08,457
huge importance in Chicago.
1403
01:22:08,458 --> 01:22:10,624
One of the most
closely-watched trials
1404
01:22:10,625 --> 01:22:12,249
in the city's history.
1405
01:22:12,250 --> 01:22:14,290
The trial of a generation
threatens to set
1406
01:22:14,291 --> 01:22:16,624
a match to a racial tinderbox.
1407
01:22:16,625 --> 01:22:18,457
Now, everyone who's
watching this testimony
1408
01:22:18,458 --> 01:22:21,249
kind of sees all this evidence
through their own lens,
1409
01:22:21,250 --> 01:22:23,541
but really, what's going to
matter is how the jurors
1410
01:22:23,542 --> 01:22:27,290
are viewing this evidence.
1411
01:22:27,291 --> 01:22:30,833
There's never been,
at least in my awareness,
1412
01:22:30,834 --> 01:22:35,624
a case about which, in one
sense, we knew so much.
1413
01:22:35,625 --> 01:22:38,791
But all of those facts are in
1414
01:22:38,792 --> 01:22:42,916
tension and competition
with another story
1415
01:22:42,917 --> 01:22:45,499
that is extraordinarily strong,
1416
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:49,165
seeps up from the groundwater
in our society,
1417
01:22:49,166 --> 01:22:53,332
and is based less on
evidence than on fear.
1418
01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:55,958
Remember? We talked
about this in opening.
1419
01:22:55,959 --> 01:22:57,749
I said, "Think about
a monster movie."
1420
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:59,749
When they're walking
down the street,
1421
01:22:59,750 --> 01:23:02,582
and let's say there's...
the... the victim is
1422
01:23:02,583 --> 01:23:04,582
hiding in the bush, you know,
1423
01:23:04,583 --> 01:23:06,165
there's not much danger here.
1424
01:23:06,166 --> 01:23:08,499
But when that monster
suddenly stops and turns
1425
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:12,165
and looks right at that...
That victim in the bush,
1426
01:23:12,166 --> 01:23:14,833
I... I think I said that's
when the music starts to play.
1427
01:23:14,834 --> 01:23:16,124
That's when...
1428
01:23:16,125 --> 01:23:18,374
That's when the filmmakers
are like, "Okay",
1429
01:23:18,375 --> 01:23:20,332
I got him right now."
We knew that we would
1430
01:23:20,333 --> 01:23:22,958
never convince all the jurors.
1431
01:23:22,959 --> 01:23:26,165
Our plan was to
strike up a rapport
1432
01:23:26,166 --> 01:23:29,040
with several jurors that
could create a hung jury.
1433
01:23:29,041 --> 01:23:31,749
First-degree murder.
1434
01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:34,541
It's unprecedented.
1435
01:23:34,542 --> 01:23:38,457
It's unprecedented
for a police officer,
1436
01:23:38,458 --> 01:23:41,542
first-degree murder?
1437
01:23:42,458 --> 01:23:45,207
So I'm gonna ask ya,
1438
01:23:45,208 --> 01:23:49,207
when you go back
to the jury room,
1439
01:23:49,208 --> 01:23:51,624
you owe it to yourself
1440
01:23:51,625 --> 01:23:55,207
to make the right decision here.
1441
01:23:55,208 --> 01:23:56,791
We also owe it to
our... to our city,
1442
01:23:56,792 --> 01:24:00,999
our county, our country.
1443
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,499
You have a very
important job here.
1444
01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:07,249
I was convinced by the defense,
1445
01:24:07,250 --> 01:24:10,874
yes, Jason thought
his life was being...
1446
01:24:10,875 --> 01:24:13,791
Was being endangered so he shot.
1447
01:24:13,792 --> 01:24:17,583
The jury believed that he
feared for his life.
1448
01:24:24,417 --> 01:24:26,791
Everyone is
waiting for the verdict,
1449
01:24:26,792 --> 01:24:28,457
and right now, jurors are
deciding the fate
1450
01:24:28,458 --> 01:24:30,374
- of Jason Van Dyke.
- Police ramping up
1451
01:24:30,375 --> 01:24:32,416
for the Jason Van Dyke
verdict. It could come
1452
01:24:32,417 --> 01:24:34,582
- any day now.
- Chicago is on high alert
1453
01:24:34,583 --> 01:24:36,416
this morning, bracing
for the possibility
1454
01:24:36,417 --> 01:24:39,792
of mass protest and
demonstrations.
1455
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:45,249
Okay. We're ready.
1456
01:24:45,250 --> 01:24:50,249
Jason Van Dyke needs to go to
jail. He is a murderer.
1457
01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:54,290
That is a high hill to climb
because at this point,
1458
01:24:54,291 --> 01:24:57,416
nothing has ever happened to a
Chicago police officer
1459
01:24:57,417 --> 01:25:00,457
for anything that they've done
to an African-American person.
1460
01:25:00,458 --> 01:25:04,874
The family wanted to
officially say on-record
1461
01:25:04,875 --> 01:25:06,874
that we are people of faith.
1462
01:25:06,875 --> 01:25:08,374
I went in there with faith,
1463
01:25:08,375 --> 01:25:11,249
but I went in there angry,
wanting something to happen.
1464
01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:14,290
We are conscious that
Laquan McDonald represents
1465
01:25:14,291 --> 01:25:17,374
all of the victims of,
uh... police violence
1466
01:25:17,375 --> 01:25:19,499
I wanted something to happen,
1467
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:22,124
but I wanted it to happen within
the confines of the law.
1468
01:25:22,125 --> 01:25:25,416
We're asking for complete peace.
1469
01:25:25,417 --> 01:25:29,791
We don't want any violence
before, during, or after
1470
01:25:29,792 --> 01:25:33,250
the verdict in this trial.
1471
01:25:36,250 --> 01:25:39,165
I think that was the most
intense time this city
1472
01:25:39,166 --> 01:25:42,583
has ever seen. Ever.
1473
01:25:43,375 --> 01:25:45,582
We was calling for a
complete shut-down
1474
01:25:45,583 --> 01:25:47,499
of the city of Chicago
1475
01:25:47,500 --> 01:25:50,165
if Van Dyke was
found not guilty.
1476
01:25:50,166 --> 01:25:52,332
Everything.
1477
01:25:52,333 --> 01:25:54,541
We wanted everybody
to take to the streets
1478
01:25:54,542 --> 01:25:56,791
and shut the city completely
down, and that's what we
1479
01:25:56,792 --> 01:25:58,332
was prepared to do.
1480
01:25:58,333 --> 01:26:00,791
And I'm sure others was
com... was prepared to do
1481
01:26:00,792 --> 01:26:03,875
more than that, but...
1482
01:26:05,458 --> 01:26:09,332
This verdict is about to be
read. If it is guilty,
1483
01:26:09,333 --> 01:26:11,291
then we're celebrating.
1484
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:14,207
And if he is acquitted,
1485
01:26:14,208 --> 01:26:17,874
we will shut it down!
1486
01:26:17,875 --> 01:26:21,541
Shut it down!
Shut it down! Shut it down!
1487
01:26:21,542 --> 01:26:25,582
- If we don't get it?
- Shut it down!
1488
01:26:25,583 --> 01:26:27,833
If we don't get it?!
1489
01:26:27,834 --> 01:26:31,041
Shut it down!
1490
01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:37,541
A whole city is
waiting for the verdict
1491
01:26:37,542 --> 01:26:39,958
in officer Jason Van
Dyke's murder trial.
1492
01:26:39,959 --> 01:26:41,499
Basically said, "Have
you reached a jury?"
1493
01:26:41,500 --> 01:26:44,416
And they said, "We have." A
woman said, "We have."
1494
01:26:44,417 --> 01:26:45,833
Keep coming.
1495
01:26:45,834 --> 01:26:49,040
And now they're waiting.
1496
01:26:49,041 --> 01:26:51,624
The whole city is waiting.
1497
01:26:51,625 --> 01:26:54,249
People all over have
their radios on
1498
01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:56,332
and their phones close.
1499
01:26:56,333 --> 01:26:58,374
We are about a little
less than 30 minutes away
1500
01:26:58,375 --> 01:27:01,165
from the verdict being
read aloud in open court.
1501
01:27:01,166 --> 01:27:03,249
The judge has summoned
everybody back to
1502
01:27:03,250 --> 01:27:05,249
- the courtroom.
- It looks like everyone's
1503
01:27:05,250 --> 01:27:07,332
in court by now, ready to go...
1504
01:27:07,333 --> 01:27:10,582
I had a full-on panic attack.
1505
01:27:10,583 --> 01:27:14,999
I was sitting in-between
two people in tears.
1506
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,708
Here we go, y'all.
1507
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:18,582
It is
packed right now. All parties
1508
01:27:18,583 --> 01:27:22,082
are present. We are now at
1:48 in the afternoon.
1509
01:27:22,083 --> 01:27:25,582
The judge had said that the
verdict will be read at 1:45,
1510
01:27:25,583 --> 01:27:30,083
so we are thinking that we
are getting very close.
1511
01:27:30,917 --> 01:27:33,332
We was going back to the court
room, and I couldn't stop
1512
01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:36,875
thinking, like, "Damn..."
1513
01:27:39,291 --> 01:27:41,249
Like, three and a
half years, man,
1514
01:27:41,250 --> 01:27:44,874
for it to come down
to this moment.
1515
01:27:44,875 --> 01:27:47,624
And I was just praying and
praying and praying,
1516
01:27:47,625 --> 01:27:50,290
just walking back and forth
and I was so... I just felt
1517
01:27:50,291 --> 01:27:52,082
my chest just...
1518
01:27:52,083 --> 01:27:55,457
My heart beating
through my chest.
1519
01:27:55,458 --> 01:27:59,207
I can't front, I was so scared.
1520
01:27:59,208 --> 01:28:02,000
Will you please
read the verdict?
1521
01:28:03,458 --> 01:28:08,416
We, the jury, find the
defendant, Jason Van Dyke...
1522
01:28:08,417 --> 01:28:11,417
guilty of second-degree murder.
1523
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,417
Man...
1524
01:28:31,917 --> 01:28:35,041
Man, man, man...
1525
01:28:44,458 --> 01:28:46,833
I think when she said that,
part of me, my soul,
1526
01:28:46,834 --> 01:28:49,499
sort of left my body.
1527
01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:50,958
It's like when you hear
something
1528
01:28:50,959 --> 01:28:53,166
you can't believe it.
1529
01:28:54,959 --> 01:28:56,374
Quiet!
1530
01:28:56,375 --> 01:28:58,833
So after she read that,
she began to read aloud
1531
01:28:58,834 --> 01:29:01,457
all the counts of aggravated
battery.
1532
01:29:01,458 --> 01:29:04,207
We, the jury, find the
defendant, Jason Van Dyke,
1533
01:29:04,208 --> 01:29:08,874
guilty of aggravated battery
with a firearm, first shot.
1534
01:29:08,875 --> 01:29:11,457
Shot one, guilty.
1535
01:29:11,458 --> 01:29:13,791
Jason Van Dyke,
guilty of aggravated battery.
1536
01:29:13,792 --> 01:29:16,582
Shot two, guilty.
1537
01:29:16,583 --> 01:29:18,124
Another aggravated batt.
1538
01:29:18,125 --> 01:29:21,040
Shot three, guilty.
1539
01:29:21,041 --> 01:29:23,207
Shot four, guilty.
1540
01:29:23,208 --> 01:29:26,291
Shot five, guilty.
1541
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,291
Shot six, guilty.
1542
01:29:31,250 --> 01:29:34,291
Shot seven, guilty.
1543
01:29:34,792 --> 01:29:38,208
Shot eight, guilty.
1544
01:29:39,333 --> 01:29:44,082
Shot nine, guilty.
Shot ten, guilty.
1545
01:29:44,083 --> 01:29:49,082
Shot 11, guilty.
Shot 12, guilty.
1546
01:29:49,083 --> 01:29:54,416
Shot 13, guilty.
Shot 14, guilty.
1547
01:29:54,417 --> 01:29:57,874
Shot 15, guilty.
1548
01:29:57,875 --> 01:30:01,416
Shot 16...
1549
01:30:01,417 --> 01:30:04,250
guilty.
1550
01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:08,916
Everything we've been
through was worth it.
1551
01:30:08,917 --> 01:30:10,542
Everything!
1552
01:30:22,333 --> 01:30:27,959
A officer was convicted
for murder.
1553
01:30:29,417 --> 01:30:35,249
By a majority, almost
all-white jury.
1554
01:30:35,250 --> 01:30:39,124
In front of the entire nation.
1555
01:30:39,125 --> 01:30:41,999
He was guilty of every count
of aggravated battery
1556
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:47,124
with a firearm, which carries
six to 30 years per count,
1557
01:30:47,125 --> 01:30:50,416
which means he can be cha...
He can be given 30 years
1558
01:30:50,417 --> 01:30:52,833
times 16. Somebody do the math.
1559
01:30:52,834 --> 01:30:56,249
What's 30 years times 16?
The rest of his life.
1560
01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:58,082
- We never get justice!
- Yes!
1561
01:30:58,083 --> 01:30:59,457
Today, we got justice.
1562
01:30:59,458 --> 01:31:04,667
It gave me, being a
black man, just...
1563
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:09,374
You can't do that
to us. You can't...
1564
01:31:09,375 --> 01:31:14,082
You can't do what you've been
doing these past decades...
1565
01:31:14,083 --> 01:31:17,666
t... to my generation or
the generations before me.
1566
01:31:17,667 --> 01:31:20,666
It's over. That time is over.
1567
01:31:20,667 --> 01:31:23,457
- Everything changes after today!
- That's right.
1568
01:31:23,458 --> 01:31:24,999
- Everything changed today!
- That's right!
1569
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,833
And it's not done. We want
the rest of those officers,
1570
01:31:27,834 --> 01:31:29,708
we want them convicted as well.
1571
01:31:29,709 --> 01:31:30,999
Justice for Laquan!
1572
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,499
Justice for Laquan!
Justice for Laquan!
1573
01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:35,791
Justice for Laquan!
Justice for Laquan!
1574
01:31:35,792 --> 01:31:38,207
We love y'all!
Power to the people!
1575
01:31:38,208 --> 01:31:39,666
God bless the family!
1576
01:31:39,667 --> 01:31:41,374
God bless the family.
1577
01:31:41,375 --> 01:31:47,000
My hope is that Laquan's family
has some level of peace.
1578
01:31:50,834 --> 01:31:53,416
And if we talk about the
movement for black lives,
1579
01:31:53,417 --> 01:31:56,833
this is undoubtedly one of
the most important stories,
1580
01:31:56,834 --> 01:32:00,040
and the arc of it is...
Is several years long.
1581
01:32:00,041 --> 01:32:02,040
Show me what Chicago looks like!
1582
01:32:02,041 --> 01:32:04,040
This is what Chicago looks like!
1583
01:32:04,041 --> 01:32:06,332
All the investigation
that happened,
1584
01:32:06,333 --> 01:32:08,874
all the campaigns that
were run around this,
1585
01:32:08,875 --> 01:32:11,040
the unseating of Anita Alvarez,
1586
01:32:11,041 --> 01:32:14,499
the decision of Rahm Emanuel
to not run for re-election.
1587
01:32:14,500 --> 01:32:18,541
Heads rolled with this trial,
1588
01:32:18,542 --> 01:32:20,708
heads rolled with this verdict,
1589
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:25,040
and they're continuing to roll.
1590
01:32:25,041 --> 01:32:29,500
We did that, so what
else is possible now?
1591
01:32:38,083 --> 01:32:40,916
Yeah, I guess this case
has kind of shaken me,
1592
01:32:40,917 --> 01:32:44,667
with respect to, you
know, justice.
1593
01:32:48,083 --> 01:32:50,916
Not only was I representing
Jason Van Dyke,
1594
01:32:50,917 --> 01:32:54,499
I was representing law
enforcement in general.
1595
01:32:54,500 --> 01:32:57,332
I think a lot of officers
see themselves
1596
01:32:57,333 --> 01:33:00,917
as being the victim that
Jason Van Dyke is.
1597
01:33:02,750 --> 01:33:05,833
As far as circling the
wagons and feeling like
1598
01:33:05,834 --> 01:33:08,541
it's us against them, yeah,
I don't think it's ever been
1599
01:33:08,542 --> 01:33:12,542
more prominent, uh,
than it is right now.
1600
01:33:20,834 --> 01:33:25,208
We got a problem, folks
We got a problem.
1601
01:33:26,375 --> 01:33:28,416
There's no place in this
city that we can say
1602
01:33:28,417 --> 01:33:30,917
we're safe anymore.
1603
01:33:31,375 --> 01:33:33,457
It kind of flipped
a switch for me.
1604
01:33:33,458 --> 01:33:35,791
I said, "I can't stand
by and watch this."
1605
01:33:35,792 --> 01:33:38,290
My public service DNA took over,
1606
01:33:38,291 --> 01:33:40,959
and I jumped into this thing.
1607
01:33:42,250 --> 01:33:44,416
Something has to change.
1608
01:33:44,417 --> 01:33:46,290
The police are under attack.
1609
01:33:46,291 --> 01:33:48,791
They're under attack by the
press, they're under attack
1610
01:33:48,792 --> 01:33:50,833
by elected officials,
they're under attack
1611
01:33:50,834 --> 01:33:52,624
by community leaders.
1612
01:33:52,625 --> 01:33:56,040
It's fashionable to attack
the police now.
1613
01:33:56,041 --> 01:33:58,999
I want to tell you something
that's really important to me,
1614
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,749
and I hope you guys
felt it in CPD,
1615
01:34:01,750 --> 01:34:04,582
is... is there's nobody more
important than the troops.
1616
01:34:04,583 --> 01:34:07,624
The fact that young people
are being encouraged
1617
01:34:07,625 --> 01:34:10,207
to not comply with the police
1618
01:34:10,208 --> 01:34:14,166
is putting the
Constitution in danger.
1619
01:34:20,041 --> 01:34:22,499
I'm not optimistic at all.
1620
01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:26,375
We're reaching anarchy.
1621
01:35:16,583 --> 01:35:18,082
Taken away.
1622
01:35:18,083 --> 01:35:21,249
As though it never happened.
1623
01:35:21,250 --> 01:35:25,708
The system is so...
I'm sorry, it's jacked up.
1624
01:35:25,709 --> 01:35:30,458
I'm glad I did my job,
but I feel betrayed.
1625
01:35:35,542 --> 01:35:40,249
The jury verdict was 16 counts,
1626
01:35:40,250 --> 01:35:41,916
16 shots.
1627
01:35:41,917 --> 01:35:44,124
Multiple shots fired.
1628
01:35:44,125 --> 01:35:48,457
It was a moment
of moral clarity.
1629
01:35:48,458 --> 01:35:51,333
But short-lived.
1630
01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:56,917
We're still fighting
over the story.
1631
01:35:57,875 --> 01:36:01,916
The struggle started the
moment the shots were fired.
1632
01:36:01,917 --> 01:36:04,916
And it's the story at
the center of
1633
01:36:04,917 --> 01:36:09,374
our racial nightmare
in this country.
1634
01:36:09,375 --> 01:36:11,124
I would go so far as to say that
1635
01:36:11,125 --> 01:36:14,875
it's a matter of life and death.126020
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