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You're simply the best

Better than all the rest

Better than anyone

Anyone I ever met

I'm stuck on your heart...

She was born Anna Mae Bullock, 79 years ago in Nutbush, Tennessee,

where she sang in church choirs and dreamed of being a nurse.

Instead, she became Tina Turner, one of the most successful

and best-loved performers of all time.

Her story is well documented, a tale of triumph over adversity,

perfect for both a Hollywood biopic and a hit musical,

with incredible highs balanced by violence, personal tragedy,

and illness.

I could be in no better place

You're simply the best Better then all the rest...

Now Tina's bringing that tale right up to date,

sharing with fans a story of how it all began

and where she finds herself now.

My life changed.

I had sicknesses, and I moved from America to Switzerland,

and retirement set in, and things changed. I met Tina recently at a hotel near her home in Switzerland,

to talk about her new autobiography, called My Love Story.

We started off with a discussion of the early years and Ike Turner,

who left Tina in a trance when she first saw him performing

in a St Louis nightclub in 1958.

She went from being one of Ike's backing singers, to lead singer,

to wife, but the relationship that set Tina on the path to stardom

also nearly destroyed her.

MUSIC: Till The Right Man Comes Along by Tina Turner

The creative partnership that was you and Ike, I mean,

how influential was he on what you eventually became?

Ike decided what songs were to be sung onstage,

but I did the choreography with the dancers.

I organised the dresses for the dancers and myself.

I had no say other than that.

Ike was trying to get me then to write songs,

which was very uncomfortable for me because that takes

another training, to write songs.

And so it stayed like that for quite a while.

I did my best with the clothes and with the dancing, but then,

you know, that gets a little bit old.

And then he went on to trying to get me to write the songs

and all of that.

It just went from one thing to the next. Yeah.

Actually, the first song was A Fool in Love, was the first hit,

and it was written for a male singer, Art Lassiter, that was

singing with the band at the time.

And so I said to Ike, like in the musical,

"I know the song. I can sing it.

So he said, "OK, just do the demo", because he had paid for

the studio, and there was no-one to sing it.

So when I did it and he did the song, recorded the song, he took it

to New York, to Juggy Murray, Sue Records, and he said,

Well, why not keep it with the girl's voice, Ike?

I like the female voice.

And Ike thought "Ah", I'm sure. Good idea.

Then I'll become Ike, and I think that was how that came about.

A Fool In Love by Ike and Tina Turner

Am I a fool for being in love?

I want to know

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!

What does it take to understand this man?

Sure enough, I...

I know I love him, and I don't know why

Tell me!

Why every time he leaves me I break down and cry

Listen...

And did he get a performance out of you you didn't know you had in you?

Was he helpful, in that regard?

No, I heard Art sing it, I knew how it was sung.

I was there

And it was, like, how do you say it? A way of life.

The singers around, and everyone, Ike, was constantly always trying to

get a hit record, always trying to get..

But he wanted to be apart.

Ike couldn't sing.

He could do it with the music, make the songwriting,

but to do a performance, to try to perform,

he couldn't. Yeah.

No, so he created you.

Yes.He created Tina Turner.

Yes, yes. Yeah.

So you were like his muse.

I was. I was his muse.

Yeah

And that was when he went to New York for...

to get the record deal, and he came back and he says,

Here's the record.

I said, "Who is Ike and Tina...?

He says, "You're Tina.

And I didn't know...

And you were Anna Mae at the time?

>I'm Anna Mae, little Anna Mae anything but Tina.

That was really foreign, and then..

But in those days you didn't talk back.

So then I realised, OK, so I'm Tina."

Very hard to say that for a long time, but I became Tina.

I know it's gonna work out fine

Everybody!

I keep a-tellin' ya

And I can feel it...

Just a year after that debut single, Ike and Tina were nominated

for a Grammy Award for the song It's Gonna Work Out Fine.

The title couldn't have been further from the truth.

And then a little later, you got married to Ike.

And just tell me about the wedding night, because it's unconventional.

Very.

The story is that when Ike was very young in Mississippi,

he had married a girl, and he'd never divorced her.

So when River Deep - Mountain High became a hit,

Ike was afraid that she would come for money.

So he asked me to marry, me, so that he wouldn't have to give her money.

He paid her off, and then that was it, and the song became huge,

and then I became married.

And then what happened on the wedding night?

It was really...oh, oh, oh!

Yeah, that was really bad.

When he asked, Do you want to marry me?

I remember when I answered, Yeah." You don't ask

you're not even asked...you don't ask someone to marry you

in that way, but of course it was a control...

He was a control freak.

So I got dressed. I knew I didn't want to marry - I just didn't

And then we went to Tijuana.

Dusty roads. Oh, it was really bad then.

And we went into this area I'm sure Ike found it

It was a lot of dirt. It wasn't clean.

And I was raised a different way from how Ike was. Ike was..

I have to say, I think that he was..

You might have another word.

Ike was crooked, from day one to day two, to the end of one day...

Everything he did was conniving,

and I was different.

I thought the wedding I was fairy tale-ish

I thought, you know, someone would ask you to marry, and you'd

wear the white dress.

And this was my wedding. A piece of paper pushed across,

and we signed, and after that we went to a brothel

and watched sex.

It was really...

That's even hard to really think about. So, as far as I was concerned, nothing had changed.

I was still with Ike.

I wasn't married, as far as I was concerned - my thinking.

I was the same, what I was to him, which was...

He knew already that I no longer cared about him,

and was paranoid about me leaving.

He had already sensed that I was thinking of leaving.

Hm

So that was the beginning of the end.Yeah.

The beginning of...

..that violence, and how evil he was.

It was every day, every moment.

Every now and then, it was some fun.

Sometimes it was, but I don't remember what it was,

but I remember there were days that were lighter and nicer.

But, mostly, he was just a really..

Always angry with me.

He treated me... like I was a prisoner and he was the guard.

Right, right.

It was always like that.

Terrifying

A prisoner of your love

Entangled in your web

Hot whispers in the night

I'm captured by your spell

Oh, yes, I'm touched by this show of emotion

Should I be fractured by your lack of devotion?

Should I?

Should I?

You better be good to me

That's how it's gotta be now

Cos I don't have no use

For what you loosely call the truth

And you better be good to me

Come on

Come on, be good to me

I think it's also right

That we don't need to fight

We stand face to face

And you present your case

Yes, I know you keep telling me that you love me...

You say in the book, in 1968 you tried to take your own life.

Right.

I was terribly unhappy, extremely unhappy,

continuously, day in, day out.

I didn't have a way out.

I didn't know that the way out was through the door,

but that didn't come at the time.

I just thought...totally helpless.

Yeah. And when I was really, really, really fed up,

that's when I just took a chance and said, "Come what may", and left.

I was just really tired of my life and the situation I was in with Ike.

And you took, what, 50 pills, you said?

You know, I didn't count them. I asked the doctor for some medicine for something,

and he said, "Well, you only take these when you're..." blah, blah,

blah, blah - whatever that was, he decided - and I remember I had

gotten some pills for Ike because from time to time he was sick.

And so I think I made up some kind of excuse to be able to get

the medicine. And I just took the pills,

whooped them all down, and by the time I got to the job I was...

This was a gig that night?

Yes.Right.

And then the next thing you knew?

I was...I was out. I was...

They were trying to revive me in the car.

They got to the hospital, and he said, "No, I can't..

I'm not getting anything."

I was totally unconscious from that many pills.

And so they said to Ike this is what they said they said to Ike, We're not getting anything.

He said, "Well, let me talk to her.

And so I don't know what Ike said, but they said, "Keep talking,

"we're getting a response.

I think I was so fed up with that life that I would've known his voice

even in the unconscious state.

I don't know what he said.

But they brought me back to consciousness,

and the next day, when I woke up, the nurses were saying,

Sing something for me.

That was to get me functioning. Right.

And I sung River Deep - Mountain High.

When I was a little girl..

Wow.

And then, that evening, I woke up and turned my head

and there was Ike.

I turned my head the other way.

No way out.

It was a no-win situation too, that I didn't know how to leave

to leave and go to a friend I didn't have a friend.

Actually, when I left I called a lawyer,

a friend of ours that realised the situation.

And then he sent money, and I flew back to California

from Texas, went to his house, and...

So what changed between Tina Turner in '68, who tried to take her

own life because she was trapped in this abusive relationship,

and Tina Turner a few years later who was able to go through the door?

What was the difference in that person?

The mind changed, strength, believing in myself,

determination - determined to get away from that, because that was

no life.

Either die, or move on to whatever is next,

and to believe that there is something better. And to believe that there is help for you, but you have to

believe in yourself, deal with whatever is thrown at you.

And that meant no money, no place to live, and so asking

people if you can live with them, if you can help them,

until a time came where you had to confront Ike, basically...Yes.

..and that was then when he found out that I was really

determined to leave

And he sent the children and all of that, and he got rolling then.

There's a pale moon in the sky

The kind you make your wishes on

Oh, like the light in your eyes

The one I built my dreams upon

It's not there any longer

Something happened somewhere and we both know why

But me, I'm getting stronger

We must stop pretending

I can't live this life

I don't care who's wrong or right

I don't really want to fight no more

Too much talking, babe

Let's sleep on it tonight

I don't really want to fight no more

This is time for letting go.

These things, though, they're insidious, because it

starts off that his gateway into..

Yes.

finding your talent, and he helps you find your talent,

and the abuse only creeps in, slowly but surely...

Slowly but surely, control. .and then it's embedded. Yeah.

But I want to go back to that question of you, now an experienced

person who has seen and heard all these things.

At what point, if you were advising young Tina, should you have said

to Ike, "I'm not having it"

Well, first of all, she would have had to manage a way

to leave because of his violence... Yeah.

.which I did try - to leave, a couple of times, that wasn't

written in the books.

And the first time was when I had the experience

of being whipped with a wire hanger.

Wow. And then another time was something else,

and I realised, Well, you don't go back.

The experience is once you leave, don't go back.

MUSIC: River Deep - Mountain High by Ike and Tina Turner

Someone who had spotted Tina's problems with Ike before she left

was the legendary producer Phil Spector,

creator of the famous "Wall of Sound".

Aware of Ike's controlling behaviour, Spector actually paid him

to stay away from the recording sessions for what would become one

of Tina's most enduring hits, River Deep - Mountain High.

Oh, how I love you, baby, baby, baby, baby...

I mean, Phil Spector, as we now know, is a fairly strange character,

but what could he do for you, as a producer?

What Tina Turner did he find?

He wanted me to sing, not deliver.

Ike had me singing...more of a gospel way.

When I was a little girl I had a rag doll..

The melody of that song was.

When I was a little girl... Da-do, da-do..

And the production - the real production of that song

was what Phil wanted.

And so when I went to actually audition with Phil, he said,

No, no, no. Just the melody.

And he would "dum, dum, dum with the piano.

And then I thought, Oh, well, that's easy.

You know, I can sing anything if you tell me how to sing it.

Give me the melody, which is what I said to Ike often,

but Ike didn't know himself

That's why he wanted me to do it, and I wasn't that person,

so the relationship became worse.

Yes, but with Phil Spector, it worked?

It worked because I did exactly as I was told.

And, "You know?" "No, I don't know, you know" - it was simple,

until the day of the studio when the room was full of all kinds of

musicians, that Wall of Sound...

The famous Wall of Sound. That famous Wall of Sound.

How you get that is with the instrument here,

and another kind of instrument, and four or five instruments

the room was full of an orchestra!

And never before - you'd never seen anything like that?

Never. Never.

And when that da-dum, da-dum, dum, dum... I chill now.

I mean, it was...it was another feeling to sing to that.

When I was a little...

You know, really to sing into that "da-dum, da-dum...

I saw exactly what Phil was producing.

And you're not just a singer in that context - you're an instrument, aren't you? That's right.

Yeah. Yeah, actually, yes.

You know, he's just playing you like...

It was totally two different ways of singing

And it gets stronger in every way

And it gets deeper, baby, let me say

And it gets higher day by day...

Tina finally divorced Ike in 1978.

She initially struggled to make an impact as a solo artist,

releasing two albums that failed to chart at all.

But regular touring meant she still had a reputation as one

of the most exciting live performers around.

And she was frequently invited to perform alongside some of

the biggest names of the day.

Is it you again, comin' back for more?

Oh, yeah

You can love me tonight if you want

But in the morning you had better get goin

I'm talkin' to you Hot legs, you're wearin' me out

Hot legs, make me scream and shout

Hot legs, are you back at school?

I love you honey...

Tina's return to the charts came in 1983,

thanks to an unlikely intervention from the UK

and the '80s electro band Heaven 17

Two members of the band, Martyn Ware and Craig Marsh, invited Tina

over to London to sing a version of the Temptations song,

Ball of Confusion.

When the song became a hit in Norway, Capitol Records

was impressed enough to ask for another '70s cover song,

and the result was Tina's big comeback single,

her version of Al Green's classic, Let's Stay Together.

Let's, let's stay together

Loving you whether, whether

Times are good or bad, happy or sad...

Let's Stay Together reawakened interest in Tina's career,

and introduced her to a whole new generation of fans who hadn't

been around in the '60s.

With the follow-up single, What's Love Got to Do With It,

and the smash hit album Private Dancer,

the comeback became a coronation.

Tina suddenly found herself one of the best-selling artists

of the decade, a bigger star than she'd ever been at home

in America, and especially popular in the countries across Europe.

What's love got to do, got to do with it?

What's love but a second-hand emotion?

What's love got to do, got to do with it?

Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken?

I was always treated a little bit different in those other countries

than in America, because in America a black singer, R&B singer,

is always a black singer, R&B singer.

That is what I was in America.

They saw me as an R&B singer, and that's why

River Deep - Mountain High was not pop enough to be pop in America,

and not black enough to be black, so it didn't have a home.

So that was the story there.

And why I felt so comfortable leaving America was because everyone

treated me not as a black person they treated me just as a star.

As a rock star?

As a rock star.

Yeah, in Britain in Holland, in Germany.

All over.

They welcomed me with open arms

And I felt really good and welcome.

Yeah.But I had to work other areas,

because America wasn't open arms to me at first until I had a huge

hit there, which was Private Dancer.

I'm your private dancer, a dancer for money

I'll do what you want me to do

I'm your private dancer, a dancer for money

And any old music will do...

The song Private Dancer was written by Mark Knopfler

of Dire Straits, but given to Tina because he felt the lyrics

were better suited to a woman.

And he wasn't the only rock star whose work Tina interpreted.

Bono gave you a song, >and you couldn't find a melody

in that at all.>

Bono said... I mean, when I received GoldenEye...

This is for Bond?

Yeah. I thought... He didn't make a proper demo, he just...

Someone just threw the music together, and he had just

written the song.

And when Roger, my manager, said, Tina, this is a song...", he told

me it was a big break, so he said, "It's a little bit rough."

And I thought, "What...how do I put this together?

It wasn't showing me what the melody was.

And so, yeah, I would have to say I created as close to what I thought

the melody was of that.

It was your melody, not Bono's?

It was my melody.

Close enough that he gave me a guideline, but not enough to sing,

just to sing it. I had to work really hard.

And I remember I really closed myself off - I had just moved here

when that happened to really find..

Goldeneye, no time...

That part was clear.Right.

But the verses, there was no guide.

He said, and I remember when he said, "I should have known."t>

I don't know what he should've known, except he should've written

the song, actually! But it was... he was very pleased with

the outcome of it.

He was in the studio when the song was being recorded and,

yeah, that was another feat.

That was hard.

Yeah, I knew then that I had talent to sing anything put before me.

You could make it live.

I could make it work. Yeah.

See reflections on the water

More than darkness in the depths

See him surface in every shadow

On the wind, I feel his breath

Goldeneye, I found his weakness

Goldeneye, he'll do what I please

Goldeneye, no time for sweetness

But a bitter kiss will bring him to his knees

You'll never know how I watched you from the shadows as a child

You'll never know how it feels to be the one who's left behind...

It was in the mid-80s, when her career was at its peak,

in music and in Hollywood, that Tina first encountered Erwin Bach,

the man who has been her partner for over 30 years,

her husband since 2013, and who has nursed her through

several illnesses, and saved her life.

Tina was 46 and one of the most famous women on the planet

at the time.

Erwin was 16 years younger, a German executive at her record

label, and when they met Tina was instantly smitten

Feel his presence in the crowd...

What actually happened was actually I was doing a promotion,

and he came to take me to do the promotion in Germany because I was

coming from another country.

And I just saw him for the first time.

It was love at first sight.

And my body was reacting to that, so I was saying to myself,

Oh, my God, I've met someone, you know, after all this time and..

But he's young, and he's good-looking," and all of that stuff

was going on in the mind, because when you work as hard

as I was working at that time, you just think of what's happening

at the moment. Right.

You know, another television show, another aeroplane...The job.

The job, yes, so that left me... And I remember when I got

in my room, I was just like...

So something was real about it.

Right. But because you are so famous, do you worry about

the other side?

You know, do you think, Oh, does Erwin mean this?

Is he feeling the same thing?

Might he like me for other reasons?

No, because actually he wasn't ready for a relationship.

I was older - first of all, the record company doesn't allow

their people that work for the record company to get involved

with the acts.

And so I didn't know that, but I just thought I was older.

Sometimes I realised that I was older.

You're 16 years older?

I was 16 years older, yeah, at the time, but I didn't feel...

I didn't think about age.

I just thought about... "Oh, he really strikes me some kind of way.

Yeah, a beauty?

A real hunk, as they call it in America.

No, he was special, and he wasn't interested in me at all.

He was just a record company executive.

Me and my baby was just getting right

All systems on overload

Radio blasting in the front seat

Turning out the music fine

And we were snuggled up in the back seat

Making up for lost time

Steamy windows

Zero visibility

Steamy windows

Coming from the body heat

You can wine and dine with a man all night>

With good intent

But there is something about a confrontation on a back road

Breaks down the defence

Steamy windows

Zero visibility

Steamy windows

Coming from the body heat.

To spin forward, a couple of decades, and you're getting married.

Beautiful wedding.

Starts actually in this hotel, and you go back to your house

in Lake Zurich, not far from here,

and then a series of revelations happen.

You feel a bit weird on your wedding day.

A bit tired.

I have an old pain - which they still haven't found out what it is

in my chest.

I think what it is, it's...

.a cramp, the same one you get from the fingers and the toes

and the muscle.

And then you had a stroke

eah, it was a stroke that came, because...

And, actually, why...

The stroke was why? I don't know why the stroke was.

I think I had overdone something, some kind of way,

but I went to hospital to find out what this cramping sensation

was, and they put me on the table for an MRI, we called it,

and they said the blood pressure went up.

And I said "Oh, it's always up, you know, because I always

had high blood pressure.

And I think that's what caused it, because afterwards I felt not good.

After the treatment, they were trying to check me, saying,

I don't see anything except the blood pressure went up.

Yeah.And after that I went on the honeymoon, didn't come back.

After that, we came back and we were going to go to another

trip, one of those other trips with a group of friends, and I woke

up and I said to Erwin, I can't go, I can't talk.

Erwin called the doctor and he said, Bring her in, give her an aspirin,

and we'll see.

How scared were you?

Not scared at all

I just wondered why I couldn't talk.

Oh, right.

I just thought it would've come back, something, you know.

So he took me in, immediately they took me in, and say,

It's a mild stroke from the back of the head,

and then they took me down in the room and I didn't believe it,

and I said, "Oh, stroke, whatever.

Like that.

They left the room.

Blop! I hit the floor.

The whole right side was gone.

Oh, wow.

And I thought, "What have I done?

I really have had something, because I can't move.

It took me what really seemed like an hour to get up,

because then I learned how to get up, when you're down, and not

holding on to something.

So then when I got up, I sat in the chair,

and I thought, "Well, until I learn what this is,

this stroke that they say I have - obviously I do...

And then they started the therapy of writing with the right hand

All of that was gone.

So all the right side was gone?

The whole right side,

but the talking was better than in the morning,

when I...

That went.

But then I had to force will myself to walk,

to make the leg walk, not...like that. Yeah, yeah.

So then I forced used all of my willpower.

I wanted to get back like I was.

I didn't believe, you know, I thought I was the ultimate person to fix things. Right.

So they said, "Well, how you do that, don't give into it.

It'll come back.

It was a mild stroke, it wasn't a heavy one.

And you were 73 at the time?

At the time, yes.

And did it affect your singing at all?

Well, I had... Obviously it meant you couldn't speak, but once

your speech came back did your.. Was your voice still there?

You know, actually I had retired.

I haven't actually tried to sing since,

but I'm sure I can

Ah...yes, it's still there

No, I think I can still sing, but it does affect the singing,

doesn't it?

I would've thought, yeah.

I would've thought. I'll have to check that

Tina, I've never been able to sing.

I was going to ask you next can you sing?

No, I think I can sing

The talking is the same except I think don't talk quite as quick.

Right, OK. I spoke quite quickly.

And you can't sign, you say you can't autograph now?

Yeah, the handwriting became better.

I can walk.

Sometimes I feel something on that side.

You might notice the face is a bit fuller on that side.

It's where it affected, mostly this side.

So the face became bigger.

The handwriting...

I corrected all of that.

So, with a little make-up, you don't notice the face change.

Right. You're supposed to say, Yes, Tina, you're right.

You don't! You look fantastic.

What can I tell you? Honestly

But that's the beginning of this story.

That was the beginning of this story.

So it starts with this high, high moment.

You're in love with this man, you couldn't believe it's

happened to you, you get married, you're in your early 70s,

you've stopped showbiz, you've retired,

you're about to enjoy yourself, you have a stroke, and then...

So then they said, Only one of your kidneys

are functioning," so I said, So what happens?

He said, "If you don't maintain, if you don't do what we recommend,

you will probably die.

>So I said, "Well, if it's time. know, I felt like...I'm late 70s,

my mother died at 84, my sister died at 74.

I thought maybe this was my time.

So he said, "No, no, no, no. We can do something about it.

He said, "There's a machine downstairs. I said, "Oh, no,

I'm not living on a machine!

Dialysis, right?

So we went downstairs - yes, and there was this machine standing

there, and I realised that I had to... I would have to use this

machine, if I decided to live.

And I said, "Oh, no, I'm not living on a machine.

That's not a quality of life.

They said, "No, no, no, no, no.

What it will do is provide you with a cleanser for the body

until we find a kidney for you."

Erwin said to the doctors, Can I give her one of mine?

Something similar to this I wasn't there.

And then he found out that he doesn't need two kidneys,

so then he came to me and said, Tina, you don't have to make

this decision now. I can >give you one of my kidneys.

And I said, "Oh, Erwin, you're young, I'm already older. It's OK.

You just get used to me not being here.

Oh no, he didn't want that.

So then he talked me into him taking on one kidney.

So I said, "Well, no, I have to talk to the doctors,

and then I talked to them about Erwin and what will happen to him,

>because he was still quite young.

And I did feel like I was older, I was already in my 70s.

So why should I take the kidneys from a young man and let him

finish his life?

That's what I felt like.

And he said, "No, no, no, my life is fine how it is.

I'll give you one of my kidneys And so...

Two people living on the edge of life

Are people running out of dreams and time

I can hear it when you tell me so

I can feel it but I can't let go

Two people gotta stick together

And love one another, save it for a rainy

Some people gotta stay whatever

And give one another shelter on a rainy day

Two people living in the way we do...

The operation was a success, allowing Tina to focus

on enjoying her marriage and her retirement.

But after years of stability, 2018 saw her having to deal

with a parent's worst nightmare.

On July the 3rd, her eldest son Craig took his own life

at his home in California.

He was 59 years old.

Two weeks later, Tina scattered Craig's ashes and a single red rose

at sea, off the California coast.

It's very hard to talk about.

I still don't know what took him to the edge, because I have no idea

what pulled him down except something that followed him

with loneliness.

I think it was something with being alone,

but he was an introverted person. He was very shy

So I didn't know either, except now when I listen back to our last

conversations, I notice a change in his "Hi, dear!

And I said, "Oh, nobody calls their mother 'dear'.

You know, whenever he called me.

And the last few times we talked, he talked, the conversation

was different. And I didn't know that until after the suicide.

In what way was it different?

No "dear", no "Hi, dear.

You know, "I just want to hear your voice and that laugh of yours.

After the fact, I thought...

Hear your voice?

He never said that, and "that laugh of yours." Never.

Just always talked about coming, coming to see the musical.

sent him the book and all of that.

Everything was going good for Craig, every time he called me.

But that last, I would say, the last two times

that he talked to me, it was no "Hi, dear," no..

You can tell when the voice is up, when the voice is down.

Right. The voice was down, as if he's just relaxed

at his new apartment.

When we were together

Everything was so grand

Now that we've parted

There's just one sound

That I just can't stand

I can't stand the rain

Against my window

Bringing back sweet memories

I can't stand the rain...

She may seem the epitome of the feisty all-American lady,

but since the mid-1990s, Tina's home has been Switzerland.

She's now a fully-fledged European, giving up her American citizenship

and US passport five years ago, and swapping it for a Swiss one.

So you became a Swiss citizen, relinquishing your

American citizenship.

And here you are now, in 2018, looking back at your old country,

at America. What are you seeing?

Difference.

It's different than when I was there.

My attitude about being there is I had lived there the first 50 years

of my life, and now I'm moving to another country.

Part of that was because of my relationship with Erwin.

I have to be careful because there's a lot going on in America now.

I'm happy I'm not there because of what is going on.

I like the change in my life

I like where I am.

America is still home.

Two final and easy questions, Tina.

One, out of your entire canon of songs, which would you pick

as the one you most enjoy performing?

My songs?

Because I always covered.

Any song you've ever performed, the one

There were quite a few that I loved that wasn't mine,

because I was accustomed to covering.

And I heard Palmer, Robert Palmer's Addicted To Love.

The lights are on but you're not home

Your mind is not your own

our body sweats, your body shakes

Another kiss is what it takes

You can't eat you can't sleep...

And of course I changed it changed everything that I covered.

I like that one very much.

It still moves me when I hear it today.

I played it a bit faster, I changed some of the lines,

but I made it my own.

Addicted To Love, something was right about it being my song.

Addicted To Love was.. had a naughty edge to it

The lights are on, but you're not home.

It was - something was just very right about it every time I sung it.

Of course, I got faster and faster, because the show was

at an end, and I was tired,

and it was just time for the climax of the show.

But I always enjoyed it.

I always enjoyed it!

And are you Anna Mae or are you Tina Turner?

Both.

How do I say both?

Tina Turner is still on stage.

People still see me as Tina.

I will always be Tina to them, because they only see me on stage.

They're not in my home and in my private life.

I think even the people in my private life might see

a little bit of Anna Mae.

So Anna Mae is a quiet, reclusive type?

A little bit. Tina Turner is a show-woman.

Less, less than the show-woman.

Much less, I think. OK.

You know what I'm proud of?

Yes, go on.

That, at this age, there's still something happening with a career.

My music doesn't sound old-style.

There's a musical that's a hit.

So, aside of being really tired of talking about myself,

I'm really proud of what my future as a star became.

I feel proud that I hold that in my hand.

Tina Turner, thank you very much indeed.

Wonderful.Thank you.

You're simply the best

Better than all the rest

Better than anyone

Anyone I ever met

I'm stuck on your heart

I hang on every word you say

Tear us apart, no, no

Baby, I would rather be dead

Each time you leave me I start losing control

You're walking away with my heart and my soul

I can feel you even when I'm alone

Oh, baby, don't let go

You're the best

Better than all the rest

Better than anyone

Anyone I ever met

Ooh, I'm stuck on your heart

I hang on every word you say

Oh, tear us apart, no, no

Baby, I would rather be dead

Oh, you're the best.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE