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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,328 At the end of the 1800s a new art form flickered into live. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,620 It looked like our dreams. 3 00:00:15,546 --> 00:00:19,724 Movies are multi-billion dollar global entertainment industry now. 4 00:00:19,749 --> 00:00:24,574 But what drives them isn't box-office or showbiz. 5 00:00:24,598 --> 00:00:27,477 It's passion, innovation! 6 00:00:28,618 --> 00:00:34,906 So let's travel the world to find this innovation for ourselves. 7 00:00:34,930 --> 00:00:37,930 To discover it in this man, Stanley Donen, 8 00:00:37,954 --> 00:00:40,432 who made Singing in the Rain. 9 00:00:40,456 --> 00:00:43,424 And in Jane Campion in Australia. 10 00:00:43,448 --> 00:00:45,473 And in the films of Ky�ko Kagawa 11 00:00:45,498 --> 00:00:49,087 who was in perhaps the greatest movie ever made. 12 00:00:49,885 --> 00:00:53,954 And Amitabh Bachchan, the most famous actor in the world. 13 00:00:53,978 --> 00:00:57,187 And in the movies of Martin Scorcese and Spike Lee, 14 00:00:57,212 --> 00:00:59,968 Lars Von Trier and Akira Kurosawa. 15 00:01:01,054 --> 00:01:04,532 Welcome to the story of film, an odyssey. 16 00:01:04,556 --> 00:01:08,517 An epic tale of innovation across twelve decades, 17 00:01:08,542 --> 00:01:12,458 six continents and a thousand films. 18 00:01:28,819 --> 00:01:32,013 In this chapter we explore the movies of the Coen brothers 19 00:01:32,038 --> 00:01:36,899 and Quentin Tarantino and discover Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet. 20 00:01:40,539 --> 00:01:43,752 Almost every film made during the first 100 years 21 00:01:43,776 --> 00:01:46,497 of the story of film was made like this. 22 00:01:47,434 --> 00:01:52,662 To get a shot to move through space, you put the camera on something that moved. 23 00:01:52,686 --> 00:01:56,045 To film a deer, as we do here, fleetingly, 24 00:01:56,070 --> 00:01:59,250 you had to find a real deer and photograph it. 25 00:01:59,274 --> 00:02:02,713 Unless, of course, you drew an animated deer like Bambi. 26 00:02:05,038 --> 00:02:07,897 But then came the first days of digital. 27 00:02:07,921 --> 00:02:09,292 Look at this shot. 28 00:02:09,316 --> 00:02:11,217 Smoke coming out of buildings. 29 00:02:11,241 --> 00:02:12,941 Sunlight from top right. 30 00:02:12,942 --> 00:02:15,554 It looks like the camera was on a helicopter. 31 00:02:15,578 --> 00:02:18,718 All attempts to make the shot look like a real city, 32 00:02:18,742 --> 00:02:20,797 photographed, but it isn't. 33 00:02:20,821 --> 00:02:25,525 These tiny horses kicking up dust, look like the deer in the previous shot, 34 00:02:25,550 --> 00:02:27,313 but they're not. 35 00:02:28,086 --> 00:02:31,111 A place like this is where this shot was made. 36 00:02:31,135 --> 00:02:36,835 Almost everything in the shot was drawn on a computer, like this one. 37 00:02:36,859 --> 00:02:40,019 D.W. Griffith had to put a camera on a giant crane 38 00:02:40,043 --> 00:02:43,304 to create this gliding shot of an ancient city. 39 00:02:46,072 --> 00:02:49,436 Here, in the first days of digital, director Ridley Scott 40 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:52,906 wanted to create a gliding, epic shot of an ancient city 41 00:02:52,930 --> 00:02:56,244 with tiny people, like ants, too. 42 00:03:00,255 --> 00:03:04,200 Computers became central to cinema in the 1990s. 43 00:03:04,224 --> 00:03:09,757 Instead of film imagery being made up of tiny grains of silver halide on celluloid, 44 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:14,951 it became tiny rows of digital information: ones and zeros. 45 00:03:15,459 --> 00:03:21,156 In 1921, a boy electrician called Philo Farnsworth, was plowing a field. 46 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:25,757 He looked at the rows of earth and realized that imagery could be made 47 00:03:25,781 --> 00:03:31,598 of tiny rows of picture information too, scanned at incredible speeds. 48 00:03:31,622 --> 00:03:34,506 Jump 70 years, and you get this. 49 00:03:39,424 --> 00:03:45,843 A liquid-metal representation of a person turns into a photographed actor. 50 00:03:47,975 --> 00:03:51,415 Director James Cameron, had his design and technical teams 51 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:54,985 scan the photographed image into the computer. 52 00:03:55,009 --> 00:03:59,081 Then they drew shiny surfaces, movements, and reflections 53 00:03:59,105 --> 00:04:02,352 to make it look like the man had become Mercury. 54 00:04:04,382 --> 00:04:09,680 The technique became known as computer generated imagery, CGI. 55 00:04:09,704 --> 00:04:12,977 Live action and animation had been combined before, 56 00:04:13,001 --> 00:04:17,627 as far back as Gene Kelly dancing with Jerry mouse in Anchors Aweigh. 57 00:04:19,105 --> 00:04:23,824 But this was crucially different, Jerry looked 2-dimensional. 58 00:04:23,848 --> 00:04:26,531 The light on him doesn't change. 59 00:04:26,555 --> 00:04:28,860 He looked like he'd been drawn. 60 00:04:31,196 --> 00:04:34,977 But the liquid-metal man looked like he'd been photographed. 61 00:04:35,002 --> 00:04:39,892 The metal seemed to have real substance, as if it was actually in the helicopter here, 62 00:04:39,917 --> 00:04:43,876 reflecting the light in the shot and the head of the pilot. 63 00:04:43,886 --> 00:04:45,310 Get out. 64 00:04:52,969 --> 00:04:55,568 The implications were astonishing. 65 00:04:56,372 --> 00:05:01,774 It was if cinema had been rewound and started again, from the olden days. 66 00:05:01,799 --> 00:05:06,449 The first animators tried to show a dinosaur. 67 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:11,594 The wobbly lines show that it was drawn with real human hands. 68 00:05:15,936 --> 00:05:20,867 Now, Steven Spielberg could do so with such hyper-realism 69 00:05:20,892 --> 00:05:24,016 that we could almost smell a dinosaur's breath. 70 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,644 Apprehend the texture of the dinosaur's skin. 71 00:05:27,668 --> 00:05:33,271 The shadows cast by the small one, the reflections on the floor 72 00:05:33,295 --> 00:05:35,837 of the feet of the T-Rex. 73 00:05:38,409 --> 00:05:42,317 This is the only surviving footage of the ocean liner, the Titanic. 74 00:05:42,341 --> 00:05:47,129 A flickering pan right that shows its massiveness, its hope. 75 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:53,202 As we watch we imagine the grand tragedy that befell it. 76 00:05:55,925 --> 00:06:01,494 Eighty years later, James Cameron shows us what we've long wanted to see, 77 00:06:01,518 --> 00:06:04,625 as if it had actually been photographed. 78 00:06:04,650 --> 00:06:08,408 The sinking liner, by the light of the silvery moon. 79 00:06:08,432 --> 00:06:12,125 Shots filmed in deep space to show the height of the boat 80 00:06:12,149 --> 00:06:14,313 and the length of the jump. 81 00:06:20,383 --> 00:06:23,681 Seventies cinema had been about what we wanted to see: 82 00:06:23,705 --> 00:06:26,708 Jaws, The Exorcist, Star Wars. 83 00:06:27,352 --> 00:06:31,711 Nineties cinema had become "can see." 84 00:06:31,734 --> 00:06:33,941 This was exciting. 85 00:06:33,966 --> 00:06:38,116 Movies had become spectacle again, about the thrill of seeing, 86 00:06:38,141 --> 00:06:40,026 as if for the first time. 87 00:06:40,774 --> 00:06:45,491 But once the thrill has passed, old questions remain. 88 00:06:45,515 --> 00:06:49,384 The first is about admiration or ethics. 89 00:06:49,408 --> 00:06:54,465 Real human courage and imagination goes into a shot like this. 90 00:06:54,489 --> 00:06:57,677 The camera and the guy are really strapped to the plane 91 00:06:57,702 --> 00:07:00,593 as it does a scary loop-the-loop. 92 00:07:05,992 --> 00:07:09,638 Hard work and long hours spent in relative comfort, 93 00:07:09,662 --> 00:07:13,554 eating pizza, go into a shot like this. 94 00:07:13,578 --> 00:07:18,339 Despite its bravura, has reality lost some of its realness? 95 00:07:21,037 --> 00:07:24,385 The second old question is a human question. 96 00:07:24,409 --> 00:07:27,317 It's the theme of the story of film. 97 00:07:27,341 --> 00:07:29,072 Innovation. 98 00:07:30,237 --> 00:07:34,678 All techniques, including CGI, should be used inventively. 99 00:07:36,067 --> 00:07:38,636 The first mainstream feature film to be made 100 00:07:38,660 --> 00:07:42,034 entirely with a computer was this inventive one. 101 00:07:42,059 --> 00:07:46,539 Director John Lassiter and his team use the new possibilities of CGI 102 00:07:46,564 --> 00:07:50,035 to render shadows, do dynamic deep staging, 103 00:07:50,060 --> 00:07:54,536 and see from positions that would be difficult for a real camera to shoot from. 104 00:08:03,948 --> 00:08:11,011 This was the pricey end of CGI but, as always, innovation doesn't need to be expensive. 105 00:08:18,744 --> 00:08:23,638 This film was not only shot mostly on low-tech digital video, 106 00:08:23,663 --> 00:08:25,930 but marketed on the Internet. 107 00:08:40,222 --> 00:08:43,929 It has the look and sound of camcorder video footage. 108 00:08:43,953 --> 00:08:48,176 His voice is close to the camera, recorded by its internal mic. 109 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,169 The whites in her face burn out, a very video effect. 110 00:08:56,224 --> 00:08:58,979 In the same year digital cinemas opened up 111 00:08:59,003 --> 00:09:02,925 in America, Korea, Spain, Germany, and Mexico. 112 00:09:03,615 --> 00:09:07,608 And, in 2001 to 2002, George Lucas shot 113 00:09:07,632 --> 00:09:12,114 Star Wars: Episode 2 entirely without using celluloid. 114 00:09:13,128 --> 00:09:16,682 And, as has often been the case in the story of film, 115 00:09:16,706 --> 00:09:20,460 Asian filmmakers were even more innovative. 116 00:09:20,484 --> 00:09:23,721 Here's Zhang Yimou's House of Flying Daggers." 117 00:09:23,745 --> 00:09:25,924 A blind dancer. 118 00:09:29,863 --> 00:09:37,292 To challenge her, a man flicks a bean against drums, to create sounds around her. 119 00:09:37,321 --> 00:09:41,231 The camera rushes forward with the bean, then swishes left. 120 00:09:41,256 --> 00:09:43,939 The bean's computer generated. 121 00:09:43,964 --> 00:09:48,134 Motion blur, again computer generated. 122 00:09:55,856 --> 00:09:59,653 Then her sleeve garment picks up a CGI sword. 123 00:10:09,436 --> 00:10:12,566 Then the man throws a CGI plate at her. 124 00:10:12,590 --> 00:10:16,900 She's seeing and not seeing, but so are we. 125 00:10:16,902 --> 00:10:19,972 Images doing things they could never do before, 126 00:10:19,997 --> 00:10:23,234 all with brilliant Chinese choreography and grace. 127 00:10:23,241 --> 00:10:25,016 Remarkable innovation. 128 00:10:25,041 --> 00:10:27,618 The theme of the story of film. 129 00:10:53,954 --> 00:10:56,898 But if what ran through the camera in the '90s, 130 00:10:56,937 --> 00:11:00,657 digital tape rather than celluloid, changed. 131 00:11:00,682 --> 00:11:05,161 What ran in front of the camera seemed to change too. 132 00:11:05,163 --> 00:11:08,314 Reality seemed to lose some of its realness. 133 00:11:08,339 --> 00:11:13,593 Life was no longer just modern, it became postmodern, playful. 134 00:11:15,515 --> 00:11:19,710 In the '90s, American films like Schindler's List, LA confidential, 135 00:11:19,734 --> 00:11:25,479 and The Silence of the Lambs were serious '40s genre pictures, 136 00:11:25,504 --> 00:11:27,379 in new guises. 137 00:11:28,541 --> 00:11:33,016 But the real flavors of the times were irony and postmodernism. 138 00:11:33,022 --> 00:11:37,992 The idea that there are no great truths and that everything's recycled. 139 00:11:38,017 --> 00:11:42,779 More than previously, filmmakers started playing games with old genres, 140 00:11:42,803 --> 00:11:47,054 quoting from previous films, making films about films. 141 00:11:48,113 --> 00:11:51,194 Even the master of new American cinema of the '70s, 142 00:11:51,219 --> 00:11:53,671 Martin Scorsese, started doing this. 143 00:11:53,696 --> 00:11:56,896 Look at the ending of Scorsese's film, Goodfellas. 144 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,083 Like several of his movies, it's about gangsters. 145 00:12:00,085 --> 00:12:02,296 But what's different is that this gangster 146 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,537 looks right into the camera, a very post-modern thing to do. 147 00:12:07,308 --> 00:12:09,576 I'm an average nobody. 148 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,821 I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook. 149 00:12:12,845 --> 00:12:17,943 And then, out of nowhere, Joe Pesci shoots right down the lens. 150 00:12:18,557 --> 00:12:22,339 A surprising shot, until we remember that one of the oldest films ever made, 151 00:12:22,363 --> 00:12:25,999 The Great Train Robbery, did the same thing. 152 00:12:29,365 --> 00:12:33,108 Scorsese knew this shot and repeated it. 153 00:12:33,132 --> 00:12:35,158 Film quoting film. 154 00:12:35,182 --> 00:12:37,692 A very '90s thing to do. 155 00:12:40,841 --> 00:12:45,565 American movies of the '90s were full of playful twists on old films. 156 00:12:45,571 --> 00:12:48,688 In this classic film noir from the '40s, for example, 157 00:12:48,713 --> 00:12:51,358 two killers are about to do a hit. 158 00:12:51,364 --> 00:12:55,119 The lighting's dark, the shadows are from German expressionism 159 00:12:55,144 --> 00:12:58,725 and, typically, the killers don't say much. 160 00:12:58,732 --> 00:13:00,870 There's little dialogue. 161 00:13:08,933 --> 00:13:12,428 Compare that to this scene of two killers about to do a hit 162 00:13:12,452 --> 00:13:17,369 in one of the most influential gangster pictures of the '90s, Pulp Fiction. 163 00:13:17,687 --> 00:13:20,962 The lighting's much brighter but what's more noticeable 164 00:13:20,987 --> 00:13:23,602 is that in Pulp Fiction, they talk. 165 00:13:23,608 --> 00:13:24,670 A lot. 166 00:13:35,157 --> 00:13:37,979 Talking about everyday stuff, like foot massages, 167 00:13:38,003 --> 00:13:41,598 isn't exactly something that Humphrey Bogart would have done. 168 00:13:41,622 --> 00:13:46,251 Scenes like this breathed new life into American screenplay writing. 169 00:13:46,276 --> 00:13:48,933 They stopped the story but opened up the discourse. 170 00:13:49,995 --> 00:13:52,200 They have no sense of humor about this shit! 171 00:13:52,225 --> 00:13:55,168 You know what I'm saying? 172 00:13:55,193 --> 00:13:57,343 It's an interesting point. 173 00:13:57,368 --> 00:13:59,705 Come on. Let's get into character. 174 00:13:59,729 --> 00:14:01,919 It's as if they'd been out of character. 175 00:14:01,944 --> 00:14:04,208 Like they forgot that they're in a movie. 176 00:14:05,469 --> 00:14:06,558 What's her name again? 177 00:14:06,583 --> 00:14:07,583 Mia. 178 00:14:07,608 --> 00:14:08,562 Mia. 179 00:14:08,674 --> 00:14:12,359 As if to emphasize the dialogue, the shot remains static, 180 00:14:12,383 --> 00:14:15,776 behind the two guys, so we listen rather than look. 181 00:14:15,973 --> 00:14:17,018 Take care of her? 182 00:14:17,042 --> 00:14:18,184 No, man. 183 00:14:18,208 --> 00:14:19,787 Just take her out, you know? 184 00:14:19,788 --> 00:14:22,920 Show her a good time. Make sure she don't get lonely. 185 00:14:22,921 --> 00:14:25,444 You gonna be taking Mia Wallace out on a date? 186 00:14:25,468 --> 00:14:27,558 It is not a date. 187 00:14:27,583 --> 00:14:29,502 You know, it's just... it's like if you were 188 00:14:29,526 --> 00:14:32,186 going to take your buddy's wife to a movie, or something. 189 00:14:32,210 --> 00:14:35,110 It's just good company, that's all. 190 00:14:39,349 --> 00:14:41,059 It's not a date. 191 00:14:41,083 --> 00:14:43,488 It's definitely not a date. 192 00:14:44,018 --> 00:14:46,529 This emphasis on the surrealism of everyday talk 193 00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:51,149 became known as Tarantino-esque, after the film's writer-director 194 00:14:51,173 --> 00:14:52,423 Quentin Tarantino. 195 00:14:54,729 --> 00:15:00,746 Tarantino-esque somehow meant both more real, and less real than life at the same time. 196 00:15:01,876 --> 00:15:05,296 And Tarantino wasn't only significant for his dialogue. 197 00:15:05,319 --> 00:15:09,798 Like Scorsese, he was a hyperlink to film history. 198 00:15:09,823 --> 00:15:15,425 For example he championed in America this Hong Kong director Wuen Woo-Ping, 199 00:15:15,450 --> 00:15:16,989 whom we've already met. 200 00:15:18,108 --> 00:15:23,123 Tarantino then hired master Yuen to choreograph the Kill Bill films. 201 00:15:24,448 --> 00:15:27,820 And look at this scene in Tarantino's film Reservoir Dogs. 202 00:15:32,495 --> 00:15:39,177 In long lens, wearing black glasses, Harvey Keitel shoots the police with two guns. 203 00:15:40,699 --> 00:15:45,741 Five years earlier, in Ringo Lam's Hong Kong film, City on Fire, 204 00:15:45,765 --> 00:15:51,225 Danny Lee, in black glasses, shoots the police with two guns. 205 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:54,566 And here's the climax of Reservoir Dogs. 206 00:15:54,568 --> 00:15:57,751 Three jewel thieves pull guns on each other. 207 00:15:57,753 --> 00:15:59,136 A death triangle. 208 00:15:59,138 --> 00:16:00,262 A warehouse. 209 00:16:00,264 --> 00:16:02,611 A police mole's bleeding. 210 00:16:02,613 --> 00:16:05,531 Wide shot then close-ups. 211 00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:12,525 The thieves have just done a failed heist. 212 00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:16,065 Joey, if you kill that man, you die next. 213 00:16:16,090 --> 00:16:16,674 Repeat. 214 00:16:16,699 --> 00:16:18,385 If you kill that man, you die next. 215 00:16:18,409 --> 00:16:20,822 Larry, we have been friends... 216 00:16:23,597 --> 00:16:26,096 And here's the climax of City on Fire. 217 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,361 Three Jewel thieves pull guns on each other. 218 00:16:29,385 --> 00:16:30,875 A death triangle. 219 00:16:30,899 --> 00:16:32,413 We're in a warehouse. 220 00:16:32,437 --> 00:16:36,403 A police mole is sitting below them. 221 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,577 Wide shot then close ups. 222 00:16:44,601 --> 00:16:47,854 The thieves have just done a failed heist. 223 00:16:50,532 --> 00:16:52,245 Talk about d�j� vu. 224 00:16:52,269 --> 00:16:55,472 Movie making about the story of film. 225 00:16:57,152 --> 00:17:00,299 And it wasn't only action cinema that Tarantino admired. 226 00:17:00,323 --> 00:17:04,186 He loved this art movie, Jean Luc Godard's Bande � Part. 227 00:17:04,210 --> 00:17:05,980 This is its title sequence. 228 00:17:06,004 --> 00:17:08,637 Fast cut close ups of the main characters, 229 00:17:08,662 --> 00:17:11,454 the letters cutting graphically up on screen. 230 00:17:11,478 --> 00:17:15,329 Tarantino used this title for his own production company, 231 00:17:15,353 --> 00:17:16,961 a band apart. 232 00:17:16,985 --> 00:17:19,901 He was punning on film history. 233 00:17:19,925 --> 00:17:21,281 How '90s. 234 00:17:21,305 --> 00:17:25,157 His company logo appeared graphically, yellow on black, 235 00:17:25,181 --> 00:17:27,334 at the start of "Pulp Fiction." 236 00:17:31,655 --> 00:17:33,664 Tarantino's postmodernism was in his writing, 237 00:17:33,688 --> 00:17:37,273 but a look at Natural Born Killers, made by Oliver Stone 238 00:17:37,297 --> 00:17:43,035 from Tarantino's screenplay, shows that, visually, Tarantino was a traditionalist. 239 00:17:44,524 --> 00:17:47,019 A young couple is on a rampage. 240 00:17:47,052 --> 00:17:53,177 Stone has this scene shot on film, on a glide cam, and graded green. 241 00:18:02,936 --> 00:18:06,320 This P.O.V. shot is also on film, but in full color. 242 00:18:07,452 --> 00:18:10,241 Then we're on handheld video. 243 00:18:12,913 --> 00:18:17,232 This mash up of styles is almost a definition of postmodernism. 244 00:18:17,234 --> 00:18:20,387 No one type of image could capture the truth. 245 00:18:20,389 --> 00:18:24,150 Reality was multiple and fragmented. 246 00:18:26,921 --> 00:18:31,277 A fourth strain of '90s postmodernism was the kooky, technically brilliant, 247 00:18:31,302 --> 00:18:35,632 films of Minnesota born brothers Joel and Ethan Coen. 248 00:18:35,641 --> 00:18:38,772 They started the '90s with this great image. 249 00:18:38,796 --> 00:18:41,505 A hat falls into the foreground. 250 00:18:41,530 --> 00:18:43,397 Trees are out of focus. 251 00:18:45,618 --> 00:18:49,328 Then the wind blows the hat and the focus follows it. 252 00:18:49,352 --> 00:18:51,620 The forest comes into focus. 253 00:18:51,644 --> 00:18:53,894 Then the story begins. 254 00:18:54,144 --> 00:18:58,944 The Coen brothers became masters of visual and story precision. 255 00:18:58,969 --> 00:19:04,206 By the mid-'90s, the Coens had honed their comic-discrepant world view 256 00:19:04,231 --> 00:19:08,204 by focusing on what used to be called, in Frank Capra films, 257 00:19:08,228 --> 00:19:12,284 the "little man," caught up in events that he barely understands. 258 00:19:12,308 --> 00:19:15,449 Here the little man is a novice mailroom worker. 259 00:19:15,473 --> 00:19:19,318 But he becomes a chief executive with the big cigar to show it. 260 00:19:19,342 --> 00:19:22,031 The film's shot in blues and Navy's. 261 00:19:22,055 --> 00:19:25,094 The novice is pure Coen brothers. 262 00:19:25,118 --> 00:19:28,940 A gormless, rather asexual man, out of his depth, 263 00:19:28,964 --> 00:19:34,123 having strayed into the world of Capra, or Preston Sturges, or Howard Hawks. 264 00:19:44,011 --> 00:19:48,556 George Clooney played a similar trespasser in O Brother, where art thou? 265 00:20:08,607 --> 00:20:11,027 Clooney was wide eyed and clueless. 266 00:20:11,051 --> 00:20:14,201 The imagery this time was golden. 267 00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:18,007 And talk about wide eyed. 268 00:20:18,031 --> 00:20:21,917 Here's Jeff Bridges, high as a kite, in The big Leboswki. 269 00:20:21,941 --> 00:20:24,376 A tower of ten pin bowling shoes. 270 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,812 His are handed out by Saddam Hussein. 271 00:20:26,836 --> 00:20:30,377 The war on Iraq was on and the Coen's wanted to refer to it. 272 00:20:30,401 --> 00:20:34,618 And then we're in another '30s genre, the Busby Berkley musical. 273 00:20:48,211 --> 00:20:52,689 The big Leboswki brilliantly married slacker dude-ness with surreal design, 274 00:20:52,713 --> 00:20:56,418 a fondness for old Hollywood and '90s politics. 275 00:21:05,513 --> 00:21:10,447 The Coen's affection for their men gave their postmodernism heart. 276 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:31,674 The most daring American postmodernist of the '90s, 277 00:21:31,698 --> 00:21:37,337 and one of the country's greatest filmmakers, was this man: Gus Van Sant. 278 00:21:38,065 --> 00:21:42,172 He's influenced by a wide range of movies, styles and periods, 279 00:21:42,196 --> 00:21:44,460 and refers to them as he talks. 280 00:21:47,562 --> 00:21:53,535 Van Sant's film, My own private Idaho," was about this young narcoleptic hustler. 281 00:22:07,623 --> 00:22:10,587 To show what the hustler feels like when he has an orgasm, 282 00:22:10,611 --> 00:22:14,495 Van Sant used the image of a barn falling onto a road. 283 00:22:14,811 --> 00:22:18,585 Seldom had a sex scene been pictured so imaginatively. 284 00:22:18,804 --> 00:22:25,850 I think when I was a painter and I think by the time I stopped painting, 285 00:22:25,875 --> 00:22:29,118 the last thing I was painting were these landscapes. 286 00:22:29,142 --> 00:22:33,424 And definitely in My own private Idaho for instance, 287 00:22:33,448 --> 00:22:39,233 the whole barn crashing into the landscape was literally from one of the paintings. 288 00:22:41,978 --> 00:22:47,213 The film was full of empty landscape shots, golden light, the open road. 289 00:22:47,237 --> 00:22:50,129 Van Sant had intended to shoot other images, 290 00:22:50,153 --> 00:22:53,753 and use them to show what the hustler felt as he lost consciousness, 291 00:22:53,792 --> 00:22:56,368 but he didn't have time to film them. 292 00:22:56,750 --> 00:23:00,864 But we did have the one image of the barn falling. 293 00:23:00,888 --> 00:23:06,441 So, since I had this, like, singular image, which was somewhat like, 294 00:23:06,465 --> 00:23:11,952 I guess, the singular image in The Shining, of the blood coming out of the elevator. 295 00:23:19,128 --> 00:23:22,445 It was this one stand-alone special effect that was really beautiful. 296 00:23:22,469 --> 00:23:27,278 So, we tried it just right in the middle of his orgasm 297 00:23:27,303 --> 00:23:31,098 because it was another kind of falling, you know, I think. 298 00:23:33,237 --> 00:23:35,518 Van Sant's signature film, Elephant, 299 00:23:35,543 --> 00:23:38,906 was also about the fall from grace of young men. 300 00:23:38,931 --> 00:23:43,823 No movie of the '90s was more complexly connected to film history. 301 00:23:45,594 --> 00:23:51,062 Elephant was a response to the shootings at a school in Columbine. 302 00:23:55,796 --> 00:24:00,005 The film's shot in the unfashionable, 4x3 screen ratio. 303 00:24:00,029 --> 00:24:03,159 Van Sant follows young men with a steadicam. 304 00:24:03,183 --> 00:24:04,892 There's little dialogue. 305 00:24:04,916 --> 00:24:06,862 The violence is unexplained. 306 00:24:13,979 --> 00:24:17,427 Fourteen years earlier, the British director, Alan Clarke, 307 00:24:17,451 --> 00:24:21,308 made a film called Elephant, which used steadicam to show the driven, 308 00:24:21,333 --> 00:24:25,376 almost trance-like walking of gunmen in northern Ireland. 309 00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:41,215 HBO was the only company that was interested in not making 310 00:24:41,239 --> 00:24:44,477 Columbine, but they were interested in making Elephant 311 00:24:44,501 --> 00:24:46,620 and they were referring to the Alan Clarke film. 312 00:24:46,644 --> 00:24:51,660 So it became known to us as Elephant, 313 00:24:51,684 --> 00:24:57,847 because of that label and I think it was a sort of similar statement 314 00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:04,367 it was a very abstract statement about Columbine. 315 00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:10,598 The constant walking in Clarke's Elephant, 316 00:25:10,622 --> 00:25:14,686 influenced the forward walking in real time, without much cutting, 317 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:19,042 in Van Sant's Elephant, and in his earlier movie, Gerry. 318 00:25:19,066 --> 00:25:22,199 These films felt, in some way, like video games, 319 00:25:22,224 --> 00:25:25,209 which became a new influence on '90s cinema. 320 00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:28,790 This one, Tomb Raider, with its image tracking forward 321 00:25:28,814 --> 00:25:33,149 to follow the main character, from place to place, was particularly popular. 322 00:25:33,173 --> 00:25:38,251 Yeah, the videogame aspect is, including "Gerry" and "Last Days," 323 00:25:38,276 --> 00:25:40,929 is coming from video games. 324 00:25:40,954 --> 00:25:45,146 Me playing video games was an effort for me to understand 325 00:25:45,171 --> 00:25:48,629 what was going on with the Columbine characters 326 00:25:48,653 --> 00:25:51,231 because it was said that they had played video games 327 00:25:51,255 --> 00:25:53,322 and so I didn't know what they were. 328 00:25:53,346 --> 00:25:56,544 And I had a computer and my assistant said, 329 00:25:56,568 --> 00:26:00,183 "oh, well you can download the first level of 'Tomb Raider, '" 330 00:26:00,207 --> 00:26:02,399 and I was like, "what's 'Tomb Raider?'" and he said, 331 00:26:02,423 --> 00:26:04,229 "oh, that's just like a game, you know? 332 00:26:04,253 --> 00:26:05,487 There's lots of different games." 333 00:26:05,511 --> 00:26:09,431 I said, "oh there's different ones?" Like, I didn't know anything about it. 334 00:26:09,455 --> 00:26:13,412 They were playing "Doom," which is a different game, 335 00:26:13,436 --> 00:26:15,913 but I guess you couldn't find "Doom" on the computer 336 00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:21,314 so I started playing "Tomb Raider" and became very, you know, amused by it, 337 00:26:20,184 --> 00:26:28,929 and occupied by it in the way people do become occupied by video games. 338 00:26:28,954 --> 00:26:33,070 And so the video games were also informing. 339 00:26:33,072 --> 00:26:36,566 Video games are often doing what we were doing in "Gerry." 340 00:26:36,591 --> 00:26:40,277 To get from point a to point b you have to actually travel there. 341 00:26:40,283 --> 00:26:42,701 You can't cut like in cinema. 342 00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:44,302 You cut to the new location. 343 00:26:44,304 --> 00:26:46,394 You actually, like, walk. 344 00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:49,485 Like in reality. 345 00:26:55,986 --> 00:27:01,019 Because of that I started thinking about like, cinema like that. 346 00:27:06,347 --> 00:27:09,929 And if the influences on Van Sant weren't already rich enough, 347 00:27:09,953 --> 00:27:13,634 he then saw the brilliant Hungarian films of B�la Tarr. 348 00:27:14,232 --> 00:27:17,497 Tarr's S�t�ntang� shows the beauty of walking too, 349 00:27:17,521 --> 00:27:22,066 the epic forward camera moves, and the expressionism of blowing litter. 350 00:27:27,023 --> 00:27:30,709 Compare this to Van Sant's film, Gerry. 351 00:27:38,485 --> 00:27:40,628 But this obsession with the beauty of walking, 352 00:27:40,653 --> 00:27:44,453 moving through space in real time, couldn't be applied to another 353 00:27:44,477 --> 00:27:47,062 Van Sant film, Last Days, 354 00:27:47,086 --> 00:27:50,663 which was inspired by the death of rock star Kurt Cobain. 355 00:27:50,687 --> 00:27:59,164 We had made "Elephant", which was very long, pensive, travelling shots 356 00:27:59,188 --> 00:28:05,355 down the hallways of the high-school, that recalled B�la's work. 357 00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:10,505 And we had... Now we're in a house which had no expansive hallways. 358 00:28:10,529 --> 00:28:14,488 And so our DP, sort of like thought of "Jeanne Dielman" and thought 359 00:28:14,512 --> 00:28:18,842 maybe we should think in terms of that rather than travelling shots. 360 00:28:18,867 --> 00:28:21,690 Maybe, you know, maybe more fixed shots which we did. 361 00:28:22,690 --> 00:28:25,808 Jeanne Dielman is full of such fixed shots. 362 00:28:25,831 --> 00:28:28,921 It's this Belgian film by Chantal Akerman. 363 00:28:28,946 --> 00:28:34,216 Akerman films square on, in kitchens and domestic settings. 364 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,041 Some of the shots of the rock star in Last Days are remarkably similar. 365 00:29:02,518 --> 00:29:05,159 - "Jeanne Dielman" is one of my favorite films 366 00:29:05,184 --> 00:29:07,291 and, in fact, in this documentary that we're making, in our section on Ozu... 367 00:29:07,315 --> 00:29:08,310 - Right, right. 368 00:29:08,335 --> 00:29:10,168 We put in a bit of Dielman because the camera is as low as in Ozu. 369 00:29:10,193 --> 00:29:10,569 Yeah. 370 00:29:10,594 --> 00:29:17,311 Ozu was also on our minds, and because of the... 371 00:29:17,335 --> 00:29:20,264 Where you have your camera now, I mean, it was, 372 00:29:20,288 --> 00:29:24,111 you know, however many... 30 inches off the ground. 373 00:29:24,135 --> 00:29:29,047 I think it was, like, a 40-millimeter lens, and so, yeah. 374 00:29:29,071 --> 00:29:32,683 We always had it like, you know, 36 inches off the ground 375 00:29:32,708 --> 00:29:37,108 and it was always a 35-millimeter lens. 376 00:29:37,132 --> 00:29:41,461 But not even Van Sant's close reworking of Ozu and European cinema 377 00:29:41,485 --> 00:29:46,407 prepared us for this shot for shot remake of Alfred Hitchcock's film, Psycho. 378 00:29:47,267 --> 00:29:49,671 The original was based on a true story. 379 00:29:49,695 --> 00:29:52,029 The remake was based on a film. 380 00:29:52,593 --> 00:29:55,945 Anne Heche was playing not so much a real person, 381 00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:58,777 as a movie star playing a real person. 382 00:29:58,801 --> 00:30:02,023 Welcome to the first days of digital. 383 00:30:23,674 --> 00:30:28,936 Van Sant's movie departed from the original only in tiny details, such as here, 384 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,400 where he inserts unexpected shots of clouds into the famous shower sequence. 385 00:30:41,375 --> 00:30:47,523 At the moment of death, Van Sant's woman's pupil dilates. 386 00:31:07,646 --> 00:31:10,777 And in the '90s you could show more nudity. 387 00:31:35,948 --> 00:31:40,017 Van Sant couldn't quite keep his instinctive surrealism in check 388 00:31:40,042 --> 00:31:44,273 but, strangely, thinks his film is very different from Hitchcock's. 389 00:31:44,283 --> 00:31:46,881 The intentions of the movie was to see what would happen 390 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,539 if you tried to, you know, literally do the same thing. 391 00:31:49,657 --> 00:31:52,144 What did happen, and, what I learned from it, 392 00:31:52,169 --> 00:31:56,487 was that even though your camera angles are actually the same, 393 00:31:56,512 --> 00:32:02,055 the performances are close, but the kind of intentions of the filmmaker 394 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,767 and the soul of the filmmaker is different. 395 00:32:04,792 --> 00:32:07,172 My "Psycho" became devoid of 396 00:32:07,197 --> 00:32:10,055 like some of the most important things that were in the original 397 00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:16,167 which were these sort of dark, underlying tensions. 398 00:32:16,192 --> 00:32:18,351 You know, in mine, it's... 399 00:32:18,376 --> 00:32:20,927 the dark underlying tensions are kind of, like, not there. 400 00:32:20,952 --> 00:32:24,343 There's something else there that doesn't really fit 401 00:32:24,367 --> 00:32:28,196 with what "Psycho" is, so it kind of became a, you know, 402 00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:32,452 an example of like how you can't really copy something. 403 00:32:32,476 --> 00:32:38,718 I think that... I think it's just the way that I've been, 404 00:32:38,742 --> 00:32:45,113 you know, creating and relating to film, structurally. 405 00:32:45,137 --> 00:32:51,832 As being a language all its own 406 00:32:51,857 --> 00:32:59,209 and being basically, the language itself, being what the film is about, you know. 407 00:32:59,234 --> 00:33:01,188 What films are generally about. 408 00:33:01,212 --> 00:33:08,829 They can have subjects but in the end it's the language that's the true subject. 409 00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:15,632 Jump from Gus Van Sant to this man in the first days of digital, 410 00:33:15,656 --> 00:33:20,889 and you find someone pushing cinema even further in the direction of art and ideas. 411 00:33:20,913 --> 00:33:24,705 The New York times called him, "the greatest artist of his generation." 412 00:33:25,008 --> 00:33:27,179 Matthew Barney used to be a sportsman. 413 00:33:27,203 --> 00:33:29,474 And just like sportsmen work up a sweat, 414 00:33:29,498 --> 00:33:34,399 building their bodies, so Barney works up a sweat making his films. 415 00:33:34,423 --> 00:33:37,523 Here he is doing something like indoor rock climbing. 416 00:33:37,525 --> 00:33:39,416 But this is no ordinary scene. 417 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,390 Barney's playing a character. 418 00:33:41,414 --> 00:33:44,724 An apprentice-artist, working hard at his art. 419 00:33:44,748 --> 00:33:47,928 The film's called Cremaster, after the cremaster muscle 420 00:33:47,953 --> 00:33:51,214 that makes human testicles rise and fall. 421 00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:54,859 Barney rises, but other things fall. 422 00:33:57,821 --> 00:34:00,695 And we're in the Guggenheim museum in New York. 423 00:34:00,719 --> 00:34:04,123 In Barney's film, it represents a human vagina, 424 00:34:04,147 --> 00:34:08,018 and New York's Chrysler building represents a penis. 425 00:34:08,042 --> 00:34:12,063 Barney is dressed in Scottish tartan because in 1992, 426 00:34:12,087 --> 00:34:15,564 he did a drawing of a bagpipe with five pipes, 427 00:34:15,588 --> 00:34:19,045 each representing a place where he would film. 428 00:34:19,069 --> 00:34:21,133 One of the places was New York. 429 00:34:21,157 --> 00:34:23,896 That's why we're here. 430 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,322 Maybe this makes the film sound overloaded with symbolism 431 00:34:27,346 --> 00:34:31,541 but it has the beauty and determination of this silent comedy, 432 00:34:31,565 --> 00:34:34,462 in which Harold Lloyd climbs a building. 433 00:34:34,486 --> 00:34:37,079 Lloyd encounters obstacles too. 434 00:34:37,103 --> 00:34:42,605 His climb is a vertical storyline of little incidents, like Barney's. 435 00:34:52,656 --> 00:34:55,632 Now Barney's apprentice has reached the top of the Guggenheim, 436 00:34:55,656 --> 00:34:59,806 where we encounter his master, the sculptor, Richard Serra. 437 00:34:59,831 --> 00:35:02,103 In dark clothes here, 438 00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:04,386 who's melting vaseline which will trickle down 439 00:35:04,410 --> 00:35:06,214 the corkscrew of the building. 440 00:35:06,238 --> 00:35:08,134 Rise and fall. 441 00:35:08,158 --> 00:35:11,880 Barney the surrealist loves the texture of vaseline. 442 00:35:25,062 --> 00:35:30,742 On lower levels we glimpse a punk band who've impeded Barney's climb. 443 00:35:30,766 --> 00:35:35,472 The first days of digital were full of films referring to other movies and ideas, 444 00:35:35,497 --> 00:35:38,760 but few looked from such a great height as Barney's. 445 00:35:39,253 --> 00:35:41,407 There are five cremaster films. 446 00:35:41,409 --> 00:35:45,272 They're a movie world all of their own. 447 00:35:56,405 --> 00:35:58,852 The coming of digital and postmodernism in cinema 448 00:35:58,876 --> 00:36:03,116 made America in the '90s fizz like lemonade, 449 00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:06,363 but the movies of the times were innovative in another way. 450 00:36:06,387 --> 00:36:08,069 Through satire. 451 00:36:08,663 --> 00:36:11,766 Two of the ballsiest satires of the late '80s and '90s 452 00:36:11,790 --> 00:36:16,557 were directed by Paul Verhoeven and written by this man, Ed Neumeier, 453 00:36:16,581 --> 00:36:18,903 who's as hyperactive and as full of ideas 454 00:36:18,928 --> 00:36:21,479 as his films, and his times. 455 00:36:21,502 --> 00:36:24,366 Their first collaboration was Robocop. 456 00:36:24,391 --> 00:36:28,645 It was certainly a reaction to what was in the Reagan era, 457 00:36:28,647 --> 00:36:31,642 particularly though... it was a reaction to... 458 00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:35,520 There was in the '80s, there was a period where businessmen... 459 00:36:35,545 --> 00:36:39,626 Japan was on the rise, and businessmen started kind of reading 460 00:36:39,651 --> 00:36:42,732 those samurai books and talking about themselves as killers. 461 00:36:42,757 --> 00:36:46,892 And so there was this notion of trying to bring actual violence 462 00:36:46,917 --> 00:36:48,691 into the boardroom, as it were. 463 00:36:48,674 --> 00:36:51,110 That was part of the idea. 464 00:36:51,134 --> 00:36:55,258 You now have 15 seconds to comply. 465 00:36:55,282 --> 00:36:59,137 Businessmen want to make money by launching this new police robot. 466 00:36:59,161 --> 00:37:01,322 It roars like a lion. 467 00:37:01,346 --> 00:37:03,735 We're in a typical power boardroom. 468 00:37:03,759 --> 00:37:04,896 Fast cutting. 469 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,850 Steely blue colors. 470 00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:10,834 I am now authorized to use physical force. 471 00:37:23,604 --> 00:37:26,522 I had a theory, which is not an original theory, 472 00:37:26,546 --> 00:37:30,001 that if you did something very violent in a movie and then you told a joke, 473 00:37:30,025 --> 00:37:31,417 that you would use... 474 00:37:31,441 --> 00:37:34,400 The tension of the violence would come out in the laugh. 475 00:37:34,507 --> 00:37:37,421 Can you pull the plug on this thing? 476 00:37:37,445 --> 00:37:39,727 Don't touch him! 477 00:37:39,751 --> 00:37:41,963 Don't touch him! 478 00:37:41,987 --> 00:37:46,004 He didn't hear it! 479 00:37:46,028 --> 00:37:50,121 Dick, I'm very disappointed. 480 00:37:50,145 --> 00:37:51,727 I'm sure it's only a glitch. 481 00:37:51,751 --> 00:37:53,086 A temporary setback. 482 00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:55,240 You call this a glitch!? 483 00:37:55,821 --> 00:37:58,627 But the businessmen try again and come up 484 00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:01,526 with a more liberal policing machine this time, 485 00:38:01,550 --> 00:38:04,650 a dead cop brought back to life as Robocop. 486 00:38:04,674 --> 00:38:06,998 What their parents only read about in comic books. 487 00:38:07,022 --> 00:38:08,190 Robo! Excuse me, robo! 488 00:38:08,214 --> 00:38:12,593 Any special message for all the kids watching at home? 489 00:38:12,618 --> 00:38:13,820 Stay out of trouble. 490 00:38:13,845 --> 00:38:17,723 Neumeier wrote scenes that mocked the happy talk of TV news, 491 00:38:17,747 --> 00:38:20,392 the kind of satirical writing that we saw in films 492 00:38:20,416 --> 00:38:24,166 like The Graduate and Catch 22, written by Buck Henry. 493 00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:27,907 I think that people like Buck Henry were luckier because 494 00:38:27,932 --> 00:38:31,069 they were working at a time where you could be a little bit more free 495 00:38:31,093 --> 00:38:35,635 about making those kinds of comments and being overtly satirical. 496 00:38:36,685 --> 00:38:40,596 We've also moved into an era of marketing 497 00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:43,044 and sort of the corporate blockbuster era 498 00:38:43,068 --> 00:38:46,162 where they're really going for the widest possible audience. 499 00:38:46,163 --> 00:38:49,420 They want what they call "four quadrants," they want everybody to like the picture 500 00:38:49,445 --> 00:38:51,199 and they want them to like it all over the world, 501 00:38:51,223 --> 00:38:53,488 almost regardless of culture. 502 00:38:56,624 --> 00:38:58,539 Ten years after Robocop, 503 00:38:58,563 --> 00:39:02,523 Neumeier penned this even more satirical postmodern film, 504 00:39:02,548 --> 00:39:05,316 which was based on a rabidly right-wing novel 505 00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:08,959 about the threat to humans by alien bugs. 506 00:39:12,288 --> 00:39:15,451 The battle scenes were as exciting as Star Wars. 507 00:39:15,475 --> 00:39:18,563 The bugs were entirely computer generated. 508 00:39:22,468 --> 00:39:27,170 The look was bright and shiny, the sound track was explosive. 509 00:39:34,567 --> 00:39:37,925 That scene where Johnny walks in, Johnny Rico walks in 510 00:39:37,949 --> 00:39:43,970 to the brain bug cavern and confronts the brain bug, is, you know, 511 00:39:43,994 --> 00:39:48,322 that's every American, maybe not just American, 512 00:39:48,346 --> 00:39:51,328 but that's every soldier in the world coming in saying, 513 00:39:51,352 --> 00:39:54,565 "yeah, you may be smart, but I got a gun," you know? 514 00:39:54,589 --> 00:39:57,530 And "now who's smart?" 515 00:39:58,776 --> 00:40:02,823 Do you know what this is? 516 00:40:02,848 --> 00:40:04,832 Sure you do. 517 00:40:04,856 --> 00:40:10,284 You're some kind of big, fat, smart bug aren't you? 518 00:40:10,286 --> 00:40:12,461 But the politics of Starship Troopers 519 00:40:12,485 --> 00:40:15,424 went deeper than making fun of macho soldiers 520 00:40:15,448 --> 00:40:17,800 and came from a surprising source. 521 00:40:17,824 --> 00:40:22,239 Paul said, �oh I've always wanted to make this movie set 522 00:40:22,264 --> 00:40:26,537 in Germany in 1935 and it's about a bunch of teenagers. 523 00:40:26,561 --> 00:40:31,043 And they're all coming into their life, and its exciting time, 524 00:40:31,068 --> 00:40:34,639 and things are happening in the country, and everybody's joining the Nazi party.� 525 00:40:34,664 --> 00:40:38,112 And the thing that he thought, that what was amusing to him 526 00:40:38,137 --> 00:40:40,442 was he said, �and nobody knew it was wrong.� 527 00:40:40,466 --> 00:40:42,909 And I said to him, "oh, they'll never let us do that!" 528 00:40:42,933 --> 00:40:47,858 In Hollywood, a real story about 1935 Nazi Germany, you know. 529 00:40:47,883 --> 00:40:50,929 Young Nazi's who before they know they're bad. 530 00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:53,044 But that's where Starship came in. 531 00:40:53,069 --> 00:40:57,654 It's about, oh, I guess, it was about 5 years later I thought, 532 00:40:57,656 --> 00:40:59,806 �oh, you could do that with this.� 533 00:41:01,689 --> 00:41:03,062 Officer on deck. 534 00:41:03,064 --> 00:41:04,998 Carry on. 535 00:41:05,023 --> 00:41:06,954 Varial detail. 536 00:41:06,956 --> 00:41:07,474 Dismissed. 537 00:41:07,498 --> 00:41:09,421 I think some people consider it camp. 538 00:41:09,445 --> 00:41:12,400 And what Paul and I decided to do was 539 00:41:12,433 --> 00:41:14,570 we decided not to tell anybody what we were doing. 540 00:41:14,594 --> 00:41:17,089 We decided never, ever let on, "oh yeah, these are the bad guys, 541 00:41:17,114 --> 00:41:19,380 these are the good guys," whatever. 542 00:41:19,404 --> 00:41:21,634 We just played it straight down the middle. 543 00:41:21,658 --> 00:41:24,517 We sort of tip our hand in the third act 544 00:41:24,542 --> 00:41:27,467 where Neil Patrick Harris comes out in a Nazi uniform. 545 00:41:27,491 --> 00:41:30,435 And that was a bit of a controversial decision 546 00:41:30,459 --> 00:41:34,303 because originally you were supposed to understand that through his speech only. 547 00:41:34,327 --> 00:41:36,339 He makes a speech about numbers and this and that 548 00:41:36,364 --> 00:41:37,737 and "i have to kill people every day." 549 00:41:37,761 --> 00:41:39,339 It's a very fascistic idea. 550 00:41:40,609 --> 00:41:42,022 You don't approve? 551 00:41:42,046 --> 00:41:43,587 Well too bad. 552 00:41:43,611 --> 00:41:45,871 We're in this for the species, boys and girls. 553 00:41:45,895 --> 00:41:46,818 It's simple numbers. 554 00:41:46,842 --> 00:41:47,859 They have more. 555 00:41:47,883 --> 00:41:49,792 And every day I have to make decisions 556 00:41:49,816 --> 00:41:52,409 that send hundreds of people like you to their deaths. 557 00:41:52,433 --> 00:41:54,827 Didn't they tell you, colonel? 558 00:41:54,851 --> 00:41:56,681 That's what the mobile infantry's good for. 559 00:41:57,134 --> 00:41:59,962 Later I think we both decided that that was, 560 00:41:59,986 --> 00:42:03,056 to make sure you got it, that that was really the moment. 561 00:42:03,057 --> 00:42:05,154 And I think the audience doesn't like that moment. 562 00:42:05,179 --> 00:42:07,916 I remember being in a preview with... 563 00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:11,897 In the bathroom afterwards when all these young men were coming in, 564 00:42:11,921 --> 00:42:14,250 they'd seen the picture and they were kind of upset 565 00:42:14,273 --> 00:42:17,357 because this was a picture they wanted to embrace 566 00:42:17,382 --> 00:42:22,482 but something in that ending had said, no, maybe these aren't your heroes 567 00:42:22,506 --> 00:42:25,218 or maybe there's something... I think it put a little bit of doubt 568 00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:27,658 into them about it or something like that. I don't know. 569 00:42:27,979 --> 00:42:29,166 Whatcha thinking, colonel? 570 00:42:29,506 --> 00:42:33,774 This is the ending that Neumeier mentions, filmed in golden hues. 571 00:42:33,798 --> 00:42:35,568 The enemy is humiliated. 572 00:42:35,593 --> 00:42:36,842 Tied up. 573 00:42:36,844 --> 00:42:39,741 It has a doleful look. 574 00:42:46,795 --> 00:42:48,445 It's afraid. 575 00:42:49,521 --> 00:42:52,269 It's afraid! 576 00:42:52,742 --> 00:42:55,559 Triumphal music begins to play. 577 00:42:57,877 --> 00:43:00,861 Science fiction particularly allows you to do things politically 578 00:43:00,885 --> 00:43:01,800 that you wouldn't do... 579 00:43:01,824 --> 00:43:04,604 That might not be accepted as easily if you did them straight 580 00:43:04,627 --> 00:43:07,468 because it's not here, it's slightly over here. 581 00:43:07,493 --> 00:43:10,043 It's a little bit skewed and I think humor does the same thing. 582 00:43:10,068 --> 00:43:12,306 And if you add them together in the right way 583 00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:16,288 then you can probably get away with murder if you want. 584 00:43:17,107 --> 00:43:20,706 Neumeier and Verhoeven combine science fiction and politics 585 00:43:20,730 --> 00:43:25,324 to create the spiciest entertainment cinema of their times. 586 00:43:30,678 --> 00:43:33,826 On the other side of the world from America in the '90s, 587 00:43:33,850 --> 00:43:38,887 in Australia and New Zealand, at first it looks like the big trends of the time, 588 00:43:38,912 --> 00:43:44,400 digital, post modernism, and satire, were having no impact. 589 00:43:44,424 --> 00:43:46,944 This New Zealand director, Jane Campion, 590 00:43:46,968 --> 00:43:50,304 emphasizes one of the timeless themes in the story of film, 591 00:43:50,327 --> 00:43:55,427 that to make great movies you must get your unconscious juices flowing. 592 00:43:55,452 --> 00:43:59,502 The unconscious mind is a little bit like a quite shy pet. 593 00:43:59,526 --> 00:44:05,140 And you have to set conditions where it trusts 594 00:44:05,164 --> 00:44:08,751 that if it comes out and plays you'll feed it, you'll pay attention to it, 595 00:44:08,776 --> 00:44:11,975 you won't ignore it, you won't scare it. 596 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,250 So, like, when I first started writing, one of the things that I realized 597 00:44:17,275 --> 00:44:19,459 was that, you know, like, for the first, like, 598 00:44:19,483 --> 00:44:25,254 3 hours when you sit down to something, you know, nothing really happens. 599 00:44:25,278 --> 00:44:28,848 It's like it's testing you: Will you stay for that fourth hour? 600 00:44:28,872 --> 00:44:31,949 I always thought... I always think, you have to create 601 00:44:31,973 --> 00:44:34,628 a very safe environment, you know, personally for yourself. 602 00:44:34,653 --> 00:44:39,882 And also, I think, when you collaborate with actors and people like that too. 603 00:44:39,907 --> 00:44:42,950 Their unconscious selves, you know, which you want to get into play 604 00:44:42,975 --> 00:44:45,066 because that's where the genius is. 605 00:44:45,090 --> 00:44:49,330 It's also shy, it's when you know it's going to be safe. 606 00:44:49,354 --> 00:44:51,079 Once all the signs, you know? 607 00:44:51,103 --> 00:44:52,854 That, you can make mistakes, it doesn't matter, 608 00:44:52,878 --> 00:44:55,279 you can be a fool, it doesn't matter. 609 00:44:55,303 --> 00:44:58,463 We're here to play really. You know? 610 00:45:00,709 --> 00:45:03,272 Campion's great film An Angel at my Table, 611 00:45:03,296 --> 00:45:05,325 is about this very thing. 612 00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:08,587 A shy young woman with a lively unconscious mind, 613 00:45:08,611 --> 00:45:12,174 Janet Frame, doesn't feel safe in the world. 614 00:45:12,198 --> 00:45:14,311 Frame's training to be a teacher. 615 00:45:14,335 --> 00:45:18,520 The whole class is looking, and so is the training assessor. 616 00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:27,413 In this moment, Frame freezes, has a panic attack. 617 00:45:27,437 --> 00:45:32,557 Campion and actress, Kerry Fox, focused the scene on a piece of chalk. 618 00:45:32,581 --> 00:45:35,126 Campion has it filmed in close-up. 619 00:45:47,427 --> 00:45:50,301 I didn't know why, "that will work", that's what I thought, "that will work." 620 00:45:50,326 --> 00:45:51,833 I was looking for something, you know. 621 00:45:51,858 --> 00:45:53,586 I have to admit that when I was doing that I was going: 622 00:45:53,610 --> 00:45:55,391 "Well what's going to make her turn," you know? 623 00:45:55,415 --> 00:45:57,882 How can we visually kind of do something with it? 624 00:45:58,257 --> 00:46:04,714 And then just the idea that I guess her world 625 00:46:04,738 --> 00:46:08,152 kind of crunched into that piece of chalk. 626 00:46:14,091 --> 00:46:16,796 I like to be able to say, "look, I'm really, " 627 00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:21,487 if I need to, " I'm confused about what to do next." 628 00:46:21,511 --> 00:46:25,310 You know, I'm not really sure we've got this scene or I'm not feeling the drama. 629 00:46:25,335 --> 00:46:27,645 It's all about a feeling for me, again, you know. 630 00:46:27,669 --> 00:46:30,563 If I'm feeling it through my body, I can feel it if it's happening 631 00:46:30,587 --> 00:46:33,819 and if it's not you have to say something, because you can't pretend. 632 00:46:33,843 --> 00:46:34,431 You know? 633 00:46:34,456 --> 00:46:37,358 You've got to kind of explore it. 634 00:46:37,382 --> 00:46:41,484 I think one of the things I believe is that you have to be 635 00:46:41,509 --> 00:46:44,919 strong about vulnerability, you know, like, stand up for it. 636 00:46:44,943 --> 00:46:48,007 And stand up for gentleness and softness 637 00:46:48,031 --> 00:46:52,887 'cause I think they're really powerful qualities. 638 00:46:52,911 --> 00:46:57,321 And...'Cause I think, you know, the so called "bluff leadership" 639 00:46:57,345 --> 00:47:00,997 qualities of you know, megaphone type voice on set, 640 00:47:01,021 --> 00:47:06,363 isn't really helpful when it comes for, you know, actors feeling anxious and nervous 641 00:47:06,386 --> 00:47:11,236 and trying to make themselves vulnerable because they're trying to find their channel too. 642 00:47:11,261 --> 00:47:13,433 You know, trust their instrument and if they, 643 00:47:13,457 --> 00:47:16,690 "everybody! Okay! One, two, three. Off you go, argh, argh, argh." You know? 644 00:47:16,714 --> 00:47:18,575 It doesn't respond. 645 00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:26,802 So I always try to create a really relaxing and forgiving atmosphere. 646 00:47:34,195 --> 00:47:38,118 Campion's film, The Piano, used very subjective images and sounds 647 00:47:38,142 --> 00:47:41,741 to suggest the inner world of a girl who's growing up. 648 00:47:42,176 --> 00:47:44,460 Here the child is looking through her fingers. 649 00:47:44,462 --> 00:47:48,463 They look like red curtains about to open onto life. 650 00:47:51,058 --> 00:47:55,133 The voice you hear is not my speaking voice. 651 00:47:55,157 --> 00:47:57,854 But my mind's voice. 652 00:48:01,452 --> 00:48:04,252 I have not spoken since I was 6 years old. 653 00:48:05,956 --> 00:48:09,820 No one knows why. Not even me. 654 00:48:13,231 --> 00:48:15,731 The Piano is the only film directed by a woman 655 00:48:15,755 --> 00:48:18,827 to win the Palme d'Or at the Cannes film festival. 656 00:48:19,247 --> 00:48:23,150 The majority of, and the highest paid, screenwriters in early Hollywood 657 00:48:23,174 --> 00:48:27,323 were women, but then filmmaking became more male. 658 00:48:27,743 --> 00:48:32,344 Women make up about 50% of the whole world, 659 00:48:32,368 --> 00:48:40,080 but there's only about 3% of women who are directors 660 00:48:40,104 --> 00:48:44,619 or are actually probably selecting content. 661 00:48:44,643 --> 00:48:48,759 And, you know, it just seems to me really sad that... 662 00:48:48,783 --> 00:48:52,529 Because women's, I think, interests are a lot more, a lot different 663 00:48:52,553 --> 00:48:59,679 than male interests in large, you know, they're, I think, they're a lot more nurturing. 664 00:48:59,703 --> 00:49:02,381 They're much more orientated to connection. 665 00:49:02,405 --> 00:49:05,950 And male interests are much more interested in, sort of, building, 666 00:49:05,974 --> 00:49:09,222 identifying their, sort of, blustering egos or whatever. 667 00:49:09,246 --> 00:49:14,072 Bombing things, blowing things up, being strong men, Spiderman or whatever, you know? 668 00:49:14,096 --> 00:49:16,471 Which I don't think women do and I think, you know, 669 00:49:16,495 --> 00:49:19,264 what's important is to try and not change the guys. 670 00:49:19,288 --> 00:49:21,064 I mean, I think it's fun what they do but to, 671 00:49:21,088 --> 00:49:24,839 sort of, get the balance, you know, have what women do. 672 00:49:24,864 --> 00:49:28,777 But because most of the men run the business I think that's... 673 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,259 They understand or identify much better with what the male interests. 674 00:49:32,284 --> 00:49:38,841 But the audience is actually probably more identifiably female. 675 00:49:38,865 --> 00:49:41,504 Sometimes one of the great betrayals of the female 676 00:49:41,528 --> 00:49:44,979 is that they want to see themselves through male eyes. 677 00:49:45,003 --> 00:49:47,740 So they're very interested in what men do too. 678 00:49:54,605 --> 00:49:58,171 If Jane Campion was the Ingmar Bergman of Australasian cinema, 679 00:49:58,195 --> 00:50:00,932 making films about intense human psychology, 680 00:50:00,957 --> 00:50:05,181 this man, Baz Luhrmann was its flamboyant Vincent Minnelli. 681 00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:16,290 Campion's films could have been made in the 1920s 682 00:50:16,314 --> 00:50:20,832 but Luhrmann's bring us carousing back into the postmodern '90s. 683 00:50:21,051 --> 00:50:24,789 Baz Luhrmann defined the first days of digital. 684 00:50:24,813 --> 00:50:28,202 Like the man himself, his films are a meteor shower 685 00:50:28,227 --> 00:50:31,889 of references to everything from Shakespeare to Bollywood. 686 00:50:31,913 --> 00:50:35,188 Shakespeare and Bollywood cinema had something in common 687 00:50:35,212 --> 00:50:40,284 and what they had in common was the blindness to taste 688 00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:46,218 or style or any of those imposed... Posed ideals about art. 689 00:50:46,242 --> 00:50:50,199 What they were singularly focused on was the engagement 690 00:50:50,223 --> 00:50:55,712 of as many human beings as possible, from as many types of humanity, 691 00:50:55,736 --> 00:50:59,157 to be moved and touched by story. 692 00:50:59,181 --> 00:51:03,832 To deliver a big idea, a big idea through an emotional experience. 693 00:51:04,943 --> 00:51:07,491 Luhrmann used these all-encompassing ideas 694 00:51:07,515 --> 00:51:11,970 about emotion and art, what he called participatory cinema, 695 00:51:11,994 --> 00:51:14,646 to make one of the key films of the '90s, 696 00:51:14,670 --> 00:51:18,485 his hyperactive version of Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet." 697 00:51:18,509 --> 00:51:24,034 Captions, fireworks, splintered edits, flash forwards, choirs. 698 00:51:30,421 --> 00:51:32,768 A dog of the house of Capulet! 699 00:51:32,792 --> 00:51:36,928 Shakespeare starts "Romeo and Juliet' with very broad, high comedy. 700 00:51:36,952 --> 00:51:38,686 You know? Standup routine, really. 701 00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:40,782 You know? Almost addressed to camera. 702 00:51:40,805 --> 00:51:44,909 You know? But it had to be broad, it had to be fun, it had to be standup. 703 00:51:44,934 --> 00:51:47,132 Right? To engage the audience, to disarm all of them, 704 00:51:47,156 --> 00:51:50,805 before he suddenly goes: Enter the romantic lead. 705 00:51:51,388 --> 00:51:52,521 Romeo. 706 00:51:53,784 --> 00:51:58,572 Leonardo DiCaprio, back lit, at sunrise, long lens. 707 00:52:02,024 --> 00:52:05,039 In the text the boys meet in the town square. 708 00:52:05,064 --> 00:52:07,596 We're now transporting "Romeo and Juliet" 709 00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:10,327 to a contemporary world that is Miami life, 710 00:52:10,351 --> 00:52:12,548 where religion and politics are mixed up with each other. 711 00:52:12,573 --> 00:52:16,633 There is no town square in an American contemporary city. 712 00:52:16,635 --> 00:52:18,274 But there is a gas station. 713 00:52:18,276 --> 00:52:21,507 Because everybody, they don't ride horses, they drive in trucks and cars. 714 00:52:21,532 --> 00:52:23,390 Where do those cars meet? At the gas station. 715 00:52:23,392 --> 00:52:25,611 Where is the town square? The gas station. 716 00:52:25,613 --> 00:52:29,353 What if we ironically quote the world of cinema? 717 00:52:29,378 --> 00:52:33,361 What if it is like a Sergio Leone, you know, piece of cinema? 718 00:52:33,386 --> 00:52:35,410 And what if it's like a western? 719 00:52:35,435 --> 00:52:35,909 Right? 720 00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:37,518 That would be a good way of doing that. 721 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:45,141 Sergio Leone shootout meets the town square gas station in high comedy style. 722 00:52:45,165 --> 00:52:47,242 Whether you think we've done it well or not, 723 00:52:47,266 --> 00:52:50,016 if you look at that sequence I think you can see 724 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,058 that that set of choices has at least led to that result. 725 00:52:55,082 --> 00:52:57,821 Whether you agree with it or not, that's how we got there. 726 00:52:57,845 --> 00:53:02,426 I will bite my thumb at them which is a disgrace to them, if they bear it. 727 00:53:08,179 --> 00:53:10,948 Shakespeare's exact comic dialogue. 728 00:53:10,972 --> 00:53:13,867 But his swords are guns here. 729 00:53:19,924 --> 00:53:23,664 And knights have become street kids in Hawaiian shirts. 730 00:53:23,666 --> 00:53:24,630 I do bite my thumb, sir. 731 00:53:24,632 --> 00:53:27,086 Do you bite your thumb at us, sir? 732 00:53:27,110 --> 00:53:28,806 Is the law of our side, if I say aye? 733 00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:29,542 No. 734 00:53:29,566 --> 00:53:32,687 No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you, sir, but I bite my thumb, sir. 735 00:53:32,711 --> 00:53:33,543 Do you quarrel, sir? 736 00:53:33,567 --> 00:53:34,768 Quarrel, sir! 737 00:53:34,792 --> 00:53:35,578 No, sir. 738 00:53:35,602 --> 00:53:38,559 But if you do, sir, I am for you: I serve as good a man as you. 739 00:53:38,591 --> 00:53:39,468 No better? 740 00:53:40,226 --> 00:53:43,072 A Sergio Leone gunfight shot in close-up. 741 00:53:43,096 --> 00:53:45,352 A track in. 742 00:53:45,377 --> 00:53:47,313 Draw, if you be men! 743 00:53:49,969 --> 00:53:50,737 Part, fools! 744 00:53:50,762 --> 00:53:52,313 You know not what you do. 745 00:53:52,401 --> 00:53:57,377 A Leone widescreen composition and the pan pipe music from his films. 746 00:53:59,322 --> 00:54:02,429 One of Luhrmann's biggest challenges in the film was how to stage, 747 00:54:02,453 --> 00:54:04,885 in an innovative way, the famous scene 748 00:54:04,909 --> 00:54:07,938 where Romeo and Juliet meet for the first time. 749 00:54:09,011 --> 00:54:12,776 The audience know this is going to happen. 750 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:19,676 How can it happen a way in which their delicious expectation 751 00:54:19,701 --> 00:54:22,370 and enjoyment of, "it's going to happen," 752 00:54:22,394 --> 00:54:24,851 can be suspended so that, when it happens, 753 00:54:24,875 --> 00:54:29,122 it's a surprise that they knew was going to happen. 754 00:54:29,357 --> 00:54:30,750 It was so perplexing. 755 00:54:30,773 --> 00:54:33,933 We were in Miami and this is, I suppose, 756 00:54:33,958 --> 00:54:37,774 the spontaneous, artistic, creative bit of it. 757 00:54:40,006 --> 00:54:44,153 That night we went out to dinner and there was a nightclub. 758 00:54:44,177 --> 00:54:46,403 What happened was I went to the bathroom. 759 00:54:46,427 --> 00:54:48,228 And I was thinking about the problem. 760 00:54:48,252 --> 00:54:49,769 I go into the bathroom, I'm thinking about the problem, 761 00:54:49,793 --> 00:54:55,966 and as I am down washing my hands I look up and can see a girl's hair. 762 00:54:55,966 --> 00:55:00,124 And I look and I think, "this is the most brilliant thing." 763 00:55:00,148 --> 00:55:04,203 It's the anti-chamber of the girl's bathroom. 764 00:55:04,227 --> 00:55:06,947 And after you come out of the bathroom, like I was, you wash your hands, 765 00:55:06,971 --> 00:55:12,378 you comb your hair and there's a fish tank dividing the boy and the girl's anti-chamber. 766 00:55:13,982 --> 00:55:17,231 And it was as simple as going: "That's it! That's the moment." 767 00:55:17,255 --> 00:55:19,570 And that's where it came from. 768 00:55:42,304 --> 00:55:48,037 So it was a combination of extremely academic work, 769 00:55:48,061 --> 00:55:53,830 followed by methodology, just work, labor, process, and 770 00:55:53,854 --> 00:56:01,595 I think maybe being open to the world around us, and luck. 771 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,029 So that's how it happened, that was that one. 772 00:56:11,002 --> 00:56:16,158 Luhrmann's "Moulin Rouge" took his ideas about innovative cinema even further. 773 00:56:16,182 --> 00:56:18,622 At the start of the film, the camera sweeps 774 00:56:18,646 --> 00:56:23,814 through model and computer generated shots of the gray, dank alleyways of Paris, 775 00:56:23,838 --> 00:56:26,569 and then swoops up to the garret of a poet. 776 00:56:38,295 --> 00:56:42,349 His face tear stained because he has loved and lost 777 00:56:42,373 --> 00:56:44,302 a beautiful courtesan. 778 00:56:44,914 --> 00:56:48,517 Then we flash back to the famous nightclub, the Moulin Rouge, 779 00:56:48,542 --> 00:56:50,377 where the love story took place. 780 00:56:50,383 --> 00:56:56,811 It's a frenzied, red, Luhrmann world of wild postmodern song, and love, and space. 781 00:56:56,835 --> 00:57:00,270 At one point the girls sing "voulez-vous couchez avec moi?" 782 00:57:00,294 --> 00:57:03,977 from LaBelle's Lady Marmalade whilst the men crash into 783 00:57:04,001 --> 00:57:07,242 the chorus of nirvana's, "Smells like teen spirit." 784 00:57:47,742 --> 00:57:53,484 No-one in the world was mashing up Sergio Leone, MTV, Hispanic telenovelas, 785 00:57:53,508 --> 00:57:57,472 fashion, cross-dressing, and the kaleidoscopic cinema 786 00:57:57,495 --> 00:58:01,027 of '90s Hong Kong with such aplomb. 787 00:58:01,052 --> 00:58:04,186 Reality had lost its realness in Bazland. 788 00:58:04,187 --> 00:58:07,371 The very definition of the first days of digital. 789 00:58:21,049 --> 00:58:23,745 Luhrmann called Strictly Ballroom, Romeo + Juliet, 790 00:58:23,769 --> 00:58:26,551 and Moulin Rouge the red curtain trilogy. 791 00:58:27,356 --> 00:58:30,976 To make them he set himself rules, a kind of manifesto, 792 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,893 that were almost the opposite of Lars Von Trier's dogma rules, 793 00:58:34,917 --> 00:58:37,762 the other great '90s movie manifesto. 794 00:58:37,786 --> 00:58:42,961 The first of Luhrmann's rules was that we need to know the story upfront. 795 00:58:43,251 --> 00:58:43,913 You get the feeling... 796 00:58:43,937 --> 00:58:46,384 I mean, "Moulin Rouge" opens, I think, with the opening line, it's something like, 797 00:58:46,409 --> 00:58:50,283 "the woman I loved is dead. She was the star of the Moulin Rouge." 798 00:58:50,307 --> 00:58:52,715 "Romeo + Juliet" opens with something like, 799 00:58:52,739 --> 00:58:58,262 "doth with their death bury their parents strife." 800 00:58:58,286 --> 00:59:04,540 You are told right up front that the lovers or a lover is going to die. 801 00:59:04,572 --> 00:59:10,076 And by the way, a recent epic, sort of, participatory cinematic work 802 00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:14,001 in the beginning called, "Titanic," it's pretty clear in the beginning 803 00:59:14,025 --> 00:59:17,097 one of them's going to end up below the waters. 804 00:59:17,121 --> 00:59:20,107 So, you... That's one rule: You know where it's going to conclude. 805 00:59:20,132 --> 00:59:22,444 Two, in this red curtain trilogy, 806 00:59:22,468 --> 00:59:25,311 to keep the audience alive and, by the way, 807 00:59:25,335 --> 00:59:26,358 it's kind of after the fact. 808 00:59:26,383 --> 00:59:28,521 I say you've got to have a device, right? 809 00:59:28,545 --> 00:59:29,915 A distancing device. 810 00:59:29,939 --> 00:59:32,906 But really, why would you do a musical without music? 811 00:59:32,908 --> 00:59:37,869 But essentially there's got to be something that keeps the whole cinematic experience heightened. 812 00:59:37,893 --> 00:59:42,529 So you don't fall into, ever, a feeling that it's somehow "keyhole." 813 00:59:42,553 --> 00:59:44,097 That's it's psychological. 814 00:59:44,121 --> 00:59:46,592 You know? In the case of "Strictly Ballroom," you know? 815 00:59:46,617 --> 00:59:48,867 Even dramatic scenes are danced out, you know? 816 00:59:48,869 --> 00:59:51,477 "Wes, come here!" You know? It's dance. 817 00:59:51,501 --> 00:59:54,358 And "Romeo + Juliet" it's the language, you know? 818 00:59:54,382 --> 00:59:57,427 "Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?" 819 00:59:57,428 --> 01:00:00,327 And then "Moulin Rouge," of course, it's song, it's music. 820 01:00:00,352 --> 01:00:01,781 ? I was made ? 821 01:00:01,806 --> 01:00:03,188 ? for loving you, baby ? 822 01:00:03,189 --> 01:00:05,793 ? you were made for loving me ? 823 01:00:05,795 --> 01:00:07,629 ? the only way of lovin' me ? 824 01:00:07,631 --> 01:00:11,329 ? baby, is to pay a lovely fee ? 825 01:00:11,331 --> 01:00:13,292 ? just one night ? 826 01:00:13,294 --> 01:00:14,740 ? just one night ? 827 01:00:14,742 --> 01:00:16,574 ? there's no way ? 828 01:00:16,576 --> 01:00:18,217 ? 'cause you can't pay ? 829 01:00:18,218 --> 01:00:21,401 ? in the name of love ? 830 01:00:21,403 --> 01:00:22,497 ? one night ? 831 01:00:22,499 --> 01:00:24,635 ? in the name of love ? 832 01:00:24,660 --> 01:00:29,529 Visually this is pure romantic cinema: moonlight, a rooftop tryst, 833 01:00:29,553 --> 01:00:32,787 reverse angle editing, two shots. 834 01:00:32,811 --> 01:00:36,536 But the music is a wild '90s mash up of pop songs, 835 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:41,395 used almost like dialogue, as if reality had been remixed by a DJ. 836 01:00:42,037 --> 01:00:46,874 ? Don't leave me this way ? 837 01:00:46,898 --> 01:00:48,708 ? you think that people ? 838 01:00:48,732 --> 01:00:50,504 ? would have had enough ? 839 01:00:50,528 --> 01:00:53,530 ? of silly love songs ? 840 01:00:53,554 --> 01:00:55,011 ? I look around me ? 841 01:00:55,035 --> 01:00:58,330 ? and I see it isn't so ? 842 01:00:58,548 --> 01:01:01,416 In this participatory cinema, in particular, say, a musical, 843 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:07,326 you need to know where it's heading and you need the story to be extremely linear. 844 01:01:07,350 --> 01:01:10,998 One thing happens precisely after the other, like math, 845 01:01:11,023 --> 01:01:14,167 so that you can save time, so that you can take the human moment, 846 01:01:14,191 --> 01:01:19,205 "oh, I love you, I love you, I love you," which in a psychological scene might be, 847 01:01:19,229 --> 01:01:21,582 "you know, I really love you." 848 01:01:21,623 --> 01:01:28,256 And music, and the expression of that could take an extra 3 minutes. 849 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:35,851 And we could expand the emotional experience of that beyond the reality in life. 850 01:01:35,875 --> 01:01:38,807 And that's where the romanticism comes in is that we're making 851 01:01:38,831 --> 01:01:42,266 something that happens in life, better than it is in life. 852 01:01:42,290 --> 01:01:43,759 Bigger than it is in life. 853 01:01:47,544 --> 01:01:49,804 Better and bigger than life. 854 01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:52,213 Exactly what many movie makers aimed for 855 01:01:52,237 --> 01:01:55,382 in the last days of digital at the end of the old millennium. 856 01:01:55,882 --> 01:01:59,016 The story of film was full of the fizz and feedback 857 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,546 of those days, and the rapture of self-loss. 858 01:02:02,571 --> 01:02:06,337 But then came the 21st century. 859 01:02:07,276 --> 01:02:13,135 Synced and corrected by job0@whatkeepsmebusy.today 78645

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