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Okay. So in putting together my beta
group, I wanted to see what you thought
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about this, since I already have like a
group and a following and stuff of people
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who'd probably volunteer to be in it.
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What do you think of doing an application
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for your beta group and only accepting 10
people?
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And, like, being like, you know,
seriously only accepting 10 people?
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Because then you can kind of pick and
choose who you think are the most serious
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people that are actually going to take
action.
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And if they're filling out an
application, they're more likely to, you
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know, go through and actually do what you
tell them.
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Yeah, that could work.
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That could definitely work.
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And I think if you already have a decent
audience, a big audience like you and you
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do, that would be good, I think because.
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You would have a lot of people that would
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sign up and you would need to weed
through, whereas when you're just
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starting you might not have that luxury.
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You need to get who you can get and hope
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that they get through.
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I was thinking just email the people who
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filled out the survey and left their
email and then just offer it to those
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people through email for.
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Like 400 you can do a lot of things.
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The key here is to do one of them.
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Well, OK but yes, you could totally do
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that. Another thing you could do is you could
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offer it and you could just refund people
right away that you thought.
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You know, like maybe you could you could,
you could take them to the offer and the
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thank you page after the 1$ offer is an
application.
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You could do that.
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But really your idea to send people to an
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application is fine.
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A lot of people, when they do
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applications, are selling higher ticket
stuff, and I think people are used to
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that, so they may not fill it out because
they think you're going to sell them on
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something big.
Well, no.
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Like I'm they know, like when I say like,
I'm serious and I'm only letting 10.
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And like when you join the group, they'll
be nine other people.
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So, you know, like this isn't like a
sham.
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I don't think it's a bad idea.
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I think it could definitely work and it
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might, it might allow you to, how do I
put this, avoid some potential problems
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because you do have a larger audience, so
you are presented with some problems that
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people that are just starting out might
not have.
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I think it's a good idea.
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I think you should.
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I think you should try it.
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Then tell me what happened yeah because I
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feel like when you did it, like you
didn't get any Dick heads like everybody.
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All the first ten were pretty serious.
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I got one Dick head.
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I did.
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Yeah, I remember the Well, not Dick head.
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He was just.
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Yeah, JR He was.
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He just complained a lot.
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And it was he was very negative and he
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was very like, you remember yeah
something about insurance.
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And he No, he oh, I'm sure, yeah, he was
unsure about himself.
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He wasn't. He didn't know.
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He barely knew how to answer email I'm
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thinking, why are you signing up for
this?
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If you don't even know how to use a
computer, then he is.
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His card got declined when we he didn't
actually refund his card declined and
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then we emailed them and he was like, oh,
my car got stolen.
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I promised that I'm going to sign up and
whatever, you know, so like one guy and I
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think one other person might have
refunded just because they couldn't make
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it, which will happen.
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But everybody else bought.
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So yeah, does that answer your question?
Go for it, do it, do it.
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Seriously back and so.
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The beta group, when you actually have
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these people that you're trying to coach
so you can learn to sell a course, is
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there kind of a level of how transparent
you should be that you're actually trying
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to learn how to set up this course by the
experience that you're going through with
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them?
Does that make sense?
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You understand what I mean?
Yes, I do.
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Ok. So what you're asking is if I'm
understanding you correctly, is how
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transparent should you be about knowing
absolutely nothing about what you're
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trying to sell a course for?
Okay hold on now.
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Hold on.
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Now let's think about this for a second.
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I never said you should sell a course
that you know nothing about.
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I said you should do beta coaching so
that you can improve your ability to
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teach others.
So, for instance, I'm good at Facebook
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ads. That doesn't mean I'm good at teaching
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people Facebook ads.
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You are, Yes, because I did my beta
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coaching. I am now because I did my beta coaching
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and I figured out how.
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Look guys, this is not formal education.
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This is not college.
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You don't get training for this.
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A lot of the stuff you guys are going to
teach is stuff that people just don't
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teach on a regular basis, or at least the
way you're teaching it.
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So you literally, you know, you could
take a college course on how to be a
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teacher or you could go directly to the
source and get result and.
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Get in the in the trenches and get
results for your students.
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Keep in mind, guys that if you're an
expert on something or you have knowledge
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on something, you should reasonably be
reasonably be able to get somebody to
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teach somebody but that but I don't want
you to reasonably be able to teach
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somebody. I want you to be able to turn people in
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the rock stars and what you're teaching
them.
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And so this is how you do that.
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Now when you're saying transparent, I'm
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always transparent that I'm saying
listen, I'm doing a beta program, the
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reason I'm teaching you guys for such a
low price.
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Is because of two reasons.
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One, I need your testimonial so I can
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sell more of this.
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I'm totally transparent about that and
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people respect that they do.
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Then I say a number two is listen, I know
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what I'm doing and I think I'm pretty
darn good at teaching it, but I want to
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make sure you have success.
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So when we do this, if you don't
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understand something, if you're having
trouble, I want you to tell me that I not
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only can help you, but i can help refine
my course and help future people.
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So that's what.
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That's how you should frame it.
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That's how you should say it.
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Don't say I don't know anything about
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what I'm teaching cuz that shouldn't be
true.
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You should know you get what I'm saying,
you know.
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Yes I do yeah what are you going to teach
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My I don't like your hesitation.
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I don't know.
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My goal with this is.
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And there's a personal story behind it,
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but I think student debt is criminal.
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I think that what the government that's
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doing and frankly a lot of the things
that you're teaching can help people
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avoid needing to take out student loans
or help people repay student loans at a
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much accelerated pace.
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I have friends that I graduated high
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school with and I graduated high school
in 1988 So before you were born, I
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graduated high school and they still have
student debt at my age.
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And it took me.
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I actually left a country.
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Is this being recorded?
I left the country at one point to try
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and avoid student debt collection.
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And it took me a lot of years to actually
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go back and rectify that stuff.
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And it was it was a horrible mess for a
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long time.
That's not why I thought I was coming
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here. But when I put that thing up this morning
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at 11:00 and so far I think I've had six
or seven people say yes to that.
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I know now that that's what I need to put
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I don't know yet.
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That's awesome.
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What that course is gonna be.
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Thank you for that.
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But honestly, you inspired me to action
through what I've learned here.
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But you took the action.
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You took the action.
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So thank you and I appreciate that.
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But my fear, and there's always gonna be
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fear as we take steps forward with this,
is that I'm gonna actually get to the
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point where I'm in this beta group.
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And I would love all like all the people
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that said yes, I have personal
relationships with and I would like to
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help them heal their finances through
helping them with this piece of their
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life that really can be crippling
financially and rob your quality of life.
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I want them to be in my beta group, but I
don't want to mess them up further.
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So there's Are you afraid you can't get
on the results?
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Is that what it is?
I'm afraid that when I launched a Beta
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coaching program.
I'm going to be doing most of the
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learning and I don't want to frame it so
that I'm taking from them.
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Does that make sense?
What are you trying to help them
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accomplish specifically?
Great I in my mind, i want them to be
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able to either have their kids learn ways
that they can earn money prior to going
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to college so they have money to spend on
their tuition if they intend to go to
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college. Or if they have outstanding student debt
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for years and years after, use the same
type of tactics to be able to pay down
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that student debt in a much accelerated
fashion.
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We're paying, you know, 137$ a month for
73 years.
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Let's condense that.
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You're going to help students, people
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with student loans, pay off their loans,
essentially.
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Yes, Okay.
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Said it better than I did.
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Thank you.
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I'm well that you just say, just say it.
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I mean that like we were talking about
earlier.
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Like remember the post, remember some
people got responses, some people didn't.
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I'm going to help people pay off their
loans, the Student Loans faster.
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So are you afraid that you won't be able
to help them pay it off?
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Do you know how to help them pay it off.
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I have a few ideas.
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I don't know yet that any of them are
going to work.
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But Google is going to be my friend.
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I'm going to give you a couple, a couple
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things to think about.
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Number one, listen, If you don't know how
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to do something, figure it out.
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Seriously, if you don't know how to do
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something, just go figure it out.
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It's as it really is, As simple as that.
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Number two, you're forgetting about
alpha.
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Do you remember alpha alpha comes before
beta?
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What did I say to do in the Alpha phase?
Just help your friends, Literally.
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Do you know someone that has student
debt?
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Forget beta coaching right now.
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Just talk to them.
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Give them some advice.
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If you can help them.
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Now we can start talking about beta
coaching because you can use those
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testimonials from Alpha.
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We're literally 5 minutes on the phone
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helping somebody take those testimonials
help you sell your beta testimonials help
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you sell your live, and so on.
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Does that make sense?
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Ok now as far as what you're talking
about with I want to help.
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So what you're kind of saying is, and
it's noble.
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But you're kind of saying I want to help
students pay off their student debt, so I
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better go learn how to make some money
and then teach them how to make that
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money. Is that kind of what you're saying?
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Not necessarily entirely.
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I want to help people learn how to manage
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the financial capacity they have, OK,
That's sounding better.
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And also to expand the financial capacity
they have.
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So that part you don't want to go too far
down the rabbit hole.
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All right.
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Because if you think about it, you're
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learning to make money.
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You can use that money to pay for
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anything, and now this whole thing
becomes clouded and convoluted.
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What's more specific is, you know a plan.
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Don't like, make two businesses in one?
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Like, you know, make a plan.
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A way for them to manage their student
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debt. A system, Okay that works.
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That works for you.
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That works for your friends.
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And then teach you to them.
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I wouldn't say like, oh, here's how to
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start your own lemonade stand and make
money so that you can pay off your
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student debt.
You could start a lemonade stand and go
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to the strip club.
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You don't have to pay off your student
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debt. You know, like you could spend it on
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candy, you could spend it on alcohol, you
could spend it on a lot of things.
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So you're getting a little bit with that
concept.
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You're getting a little bit down.
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You know, you're going down the rabbit
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hole too much.
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Creating something specifically like OKI
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don't know and I'm making this up.
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I don't know if this is true or not, but
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let's say there was a program where if
you worked at a college as a tutor or
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something like that, they gave you
credits towards your student loans.
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Maybe a lot of people don't know about
that.
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So what you could teach is you could show
them that opportunity and then you could
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teach them process of how to land those
jobs and get the most out of those jobs
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to pay off their loan.
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See what I'm saying?
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Ok, that is much is that not much more
focused and clear for the goal.
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Ok. Does that, does that make sense on
the focus?
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Ok. So just think about those things.
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Ok, And try to really create something
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that specifically solves that problem.
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And don't go too far down the rabbit
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hole. Ok. Thank you.
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All right awesome.
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You know, I'm, it's late when I'm sitting
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down, so.
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Mine's an actual testimony.
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Is that okay?
Alright, so I attended AD Con.
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Get the camera closer.
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I attended AD Con and right before that
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Friday, right before i drove there.
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I bought 4 properties in Clearwater and I
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never really thought about teaching a
course on how to buy investment
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properties and flip them and all that
good stuff, right?
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sure.
And then you started talking about the
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course. It's like, shit, I can really excuse me.
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Oh yeah.
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I'm so offended.
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Oh camera.
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Sorry my virgin I can really teach a
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course on how to do this and you know met
Whitney who's funny.
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Awesome right.
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And so yeah so I went back the week later
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and so basically at I called you said you
know you could you can do you can sell
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people into your course even when it's
not completed.
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So the whole beta concept right so I went
back the next week and I had my
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contractor there and one of my good
friends and.
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I walked through the property and at the
end I said, you know what this is, this
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is so much fun.
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I'm making a lot of money.
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I should probably teach people how to do
this.
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If you're interested, just comment below.
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So I did that and I got over 50
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responses. Was that, was that when I said the
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curious expert on stage was that when you
did that, that's awesome.
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So how many responses did you get?
So I got over 5050 fifty and a lot of
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them are private messages because I think
they're that's fine people to know, but.
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So yeah, my thing was what I priced it
at, but you know, 500 came into my mind.
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So I got five, you know, five people at
500 bucks a pop right after that.
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So you made money yeah so basically
covers my expenses and that's really what
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I wanted to do.
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It's kind of tested.
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I think you mentioned that test tested
and I didn't do a survey, but I did the
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Facebook live, which is one of the
options you had up there.
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So yeah, so we're walking.
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I got 5 in, but because we want to walk
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them through it and recording them.
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So that was one of the requirements was I
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want to make sure they had money, sure.
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If they wanted to rehab, right.
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So I wanted to qualify them because I
want them to be successful.
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So I put a lot of requirements.
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So I kind of weeded out a lot.
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And yeah, so we have two people right
now.
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We work, we have 5, but we're only
working with two at a time.
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So they bought a property, we're walking
them through it and so we have like you
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know, I think I mentioned we have like 30
or 40 recordings.
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That we're working on slicing up and
uploading.
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So are you making sure to get these
testimonials?
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You know what I would do?
Could you ask your students when they buy
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a property or even ask them now to take
us a selfie video and do a walkthrough of
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the property they bought?
We did that.
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So we're going to do one.
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He bought the property and they sent it
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to you, right?
Yeah, I did a Facebook live with it, and
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then we're gonna do one at the end when
he closes on it.
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So you've got the makings of something
great.
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It's a good testimony yeah awesome, man.
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Well, thank you.
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And you're awesome for taking action
awesome fantastic.
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