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[ambient music playing]
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[news anchor] At night,
the brightest reflection in the skies
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over New York comes from the area
around Times Square and Broadway.
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[news anchor 2] Thousands
of pleasure-seekers, like moths,
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are lured to its light.
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[news anchor 3]
These sights and sounds are only a part
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of one of the most astonishing
and complicated areas in the world.
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[upbeat music playing]
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[man] The whole world
is attracted to Times Square.
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They're entranced
and a little bit drunk off all the lights
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and all of the show business.
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But tourists don't know
what was there 45 years ago.
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In the late '70s,
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Times Square was considered an atrocity.
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[woman] Times Square was
a very sexually-charged atmosphere.
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The whole scene was something to see
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because it was, like,
out of Dante's Inferno.
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[sirens wailing]
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There were guys walking around out there
that were pure predators.
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[man] The fear behind that was palpable.
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You could feel it.
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It's not easy to find a newscast
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with no reference
to violence and murder these days,
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but this week got off
to an unusually violent start
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right here in Midtown Manhattan.
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[man] I was in the 10th Precinct
in Manhattan covering Times Square,
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just, uh, a uniform cop on patrol.
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This was December of '79,
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and we're stopped at a light
at 42nd Street
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when we saw fire trucks parked
in front of the Travel Inn hotel.
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[tense music playing]
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[indistinct chattering]
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[man] When we pulled up,
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they excitedly said,
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"You better go up to the fourth floor."
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[sirens wailing]
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[man] There was a fire in room 417.
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Rescue Company 1 was told that
there were likely guests inside the room.
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So you had the smell from burning flesh,
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and the smoke was thick.
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They crawled into the room,
not being able to see.
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[fire crackling]
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[man] They made out the shape
of bodies on the twin beds.
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[muffled chattering]
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One of the firemen went to give CPR...
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but she had no head or hands.
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Knocked him back
against the wall, naturally.
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The sergeant turned to me, and he said,
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"A real sick bastard did this."
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[tense music playing]
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[sinister music playing]
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[fire truck sirens wailing]
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[fire truck horn blaring]
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[news anchor] Firemen were first to arrive
at the scene at about 9:30 this morning.
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They were responding to a report
of a fire in a West Side hotel room.
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They found much more
than they had anticipated.
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Two women were found decapitated,
their hands cut off as well.
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[female reporter] Did it seem
that the women had been killed recently
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when you arrived?
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I would say so, yeah,
within a couple hours.
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[female reporter] It seems the suspect
tried to cover his tracks
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by setting the two beds on fire.
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Two separate fires,
two separate mattresses,
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two separate beds.
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For how long?
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Five minutes, tops.
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[knocking on door]
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[man] I spent 31 and a half years
with the New York City Police Department.
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You wouldn't believe the things I've seen.
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And for something to stand out,
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it's gotta be really bad. It has to be
absolutely horrifying to stand out.
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And this case did stand out.
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It was pretty much
the hotel room from hell.
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[man 2] I saw the headlines before I got
the information from the NYPD,
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and the case immediately intrigued me.
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I'm a homicide and forensic expert
and consultant.
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I'm the former commander
of Bronx Homicide.
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At the time, I called up Jerry McQueen,
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who was the detective sergeant
who was in charge of the investigation,
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and he basically filled me in
what they had.
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[indistinct radio police chatter]
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[Geberth] The immediate problem
for the investigators was...
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"Who are these victims?"
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[projector whirring]
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The first thing
you look for is fingerprints,
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but in this case, you were deprived
of fingerprints 'cause there's no hands.
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Our first inclination is that
he wants to prevent identification.
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That's why the heads and hands are gone.
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We had nothing else.
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No wallet, no ID, no identification cards.
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And don't forget, it's... it's 1979.
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We don't have all this video surveillance
that we have today, okay?
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We don't have DNA technology.
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It won't... DNA technology won't come up
for another seven years.
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Very frustrating.
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[ominous music playing]
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[man] The firemen said that
they felt it was a poorly conceived fire,
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more likely to draw attention to the room
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than it was to do any damage.
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In fact, one detective said to me
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it was the cleanest crime scene
he's ever seen.
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It was totally devoid of evidence.
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[Reiman] Spatter, gore, puddles,
fingerprints, there was nothing.
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How... how can you behead two women,
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chop off the... the hands of two women,
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and not have gore
from one end to the other?
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[Riegel] I did see the clothing
from the victims
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was piled neatly in the bathtub.
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You know, it seemed strange
to me at the time.
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[female reporter] This killer went
to great lengths to destroy
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the women's identities.
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So why would he leave behind
the women's clothing?
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Possibly they were his gimmicks,
planted there,
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like the little fire he started Sunday.
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[man] One of the maids
from the fourth floor,
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uh, discovered smoke
coming from under the door
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and, uh, trying to open the door
to, uh, get in there.
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[female reporter] Had anybody heard
any kind of a struggle?
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Any noise in that room?
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It was don't disturb.
Don't disturb. That's all.
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The don't disturb sign,
was that up all along?
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Yes.
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[bell ringing]
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[Geberth] The offender came in
on November 29th into that hotel,
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and he did not leave till December 2nd.
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A period of three days.
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He very cleverly signed in
as a Carl Wilson
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from Maryland, New Jersey,
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which was a fake name.
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The only time he was seen
was at registration.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Riegel] A woman stood behind him
as the subject was registering.
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He was alone. She was alone.
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But for whatever reason,
she paid attention...
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and they drew a composite
from her description.
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[female reporter] This is the sketch
of the man wanted for questioning.
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He's white, 35 years old,
about 5'10" tall,
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and weighing 175 pounds.
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They say he has brown hair,
which is blow-dried.
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By that, they told me they mean this man
is very meticulous about his appearance.
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[Reiman] In a case like this,
the police have an uphill battle
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because of the location
down in Times Square.
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Back then, it was rampant crime
of every description going on
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on every block,
on every corner, in every alleyway.
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[sirens wailing]
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[Reiman] This was a place
where someone could go unnoticed.
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When you're looking for a killer
in 1970s Times Square,
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you're looking for a needle in a haystack.
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[horns honking]
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There was more of a crowd in Times Square
than anywhere else in the city.
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There were tourists,
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countless businessmen...
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Yes, sir, what can I do for you, buddy?
What do you need today?
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...hustlers and three-card monte guys.
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Guys right out of Rikers Island.
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[horn blaring]
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[man] When you have the entire world
passing through,
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anybody could be in there.
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It's a hustle and bustle
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that's unparalleled
anywhere else in this country.
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[man] I spent my entire twenties
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in the 1970s and '80s in Times Square.
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I was a writer covering the neighborhood
for men's magazines.
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There's probably no "official"
official designation
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of exactly to the foot
which makes up Times Square...
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[upbeat music playing]
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...but because it's in my blood,
and I've spent so many years there
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between 42nd Street and 50th Street,
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between 8th Avenue and 6th Avenue.
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Those 13 blocks,
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that's my definition of Times Square.
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[man 2] "The Deuce" was a nickname
at the time.
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It really referred to 42nd Street itself,
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particularly between 7th and 8th Avenue,
which is really the heart of Times Square.
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At its peak, it was a meeting place.
It was a place of entertainment.
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It was part
of the central business district.
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Almost all subway lines
come to Times Square.
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The Port Authority Bus Terminal
brings people from New Jersey
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but also people from around the country.
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[man 3] For me,
it's always been a destination.
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I remember coming here and seeing
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the Camel ad where
the guy blows smoke rings.
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That was so cool.
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I mean, anything else
paled in comparison to that.
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[woman] There were Broadway shows,
and theaters were bustling,
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and it was like an element
of being in the Wild West.
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You know, where you didn't know
what was gonna happen,
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and you were going there
because you wanted to have an adventure.
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[man] Times Square 42nd Street
was a collecting point...
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for all sorts of people.
It was like a... like a drain, you know?
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Everything came there.
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[tense music playing]
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[woman] You have those
who are the denizens of the Deuce,
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who have lived there, they worked there,
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they partied there.
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But you have all these newcomers
who did not learn to be street-smart.
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And if you are not used
to being in a place
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where there are so many people
bumping up against you,
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so many lights, loud music,
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everything else,
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it's easy to become a victim
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because there were bad people out there.
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[sirens wailing]
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[news anchor] For the past two weeks,
we've told you about the hunt
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for whoever murdered and decapitated
two women in the Times Square hotel.
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Authorities are asking anyone
with information about this man
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to call a special number.
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[Geberth] The media put out
a composite sketch of a potential suspect,
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but at the time,
that sketch didn't help the investigation.
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Because nobody came forward.
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Very frustrating.
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[female reporter] Police have had
to resort to the barest of evidence
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as a means of tracking down
the victims' identities.
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Over at the 20th Precinct,
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we saw the sorry remains
of the two young women.
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A pair of Bonjour jeans size 7/8,
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a pair of patent leather boots,
a red sweater,
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a black fur jacket waist-length,
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a pair of white leotards,
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and a pair of black high-heeled shoes.
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[phone ringing in distance]
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[Geberth] Now, in order
to try to identify the victims,
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the investigators came up with the idea
of why don't we take these clothes
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that had been left behind
in the hotel room
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and see if we get some feedback
from the general public?
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One of the detectives said,
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"Listen, in Midtown,
we have all these department stores."
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"Why don't we get mannequins
from the department store
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and dress the mannequin in the clothing
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to see if anyone could identify these gals
based on the clothing?"
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[female reporter] Police tell us
they'll call a press conference tomorrow.
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The purpose is to dress up some mannequins
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with the same clothes
they showed us last week.
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[tense music playing]
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[shutter clicking]
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[Geberth] So the mannequins were dressed,
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photographed,
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and circulars went up all over the place.
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They were in the newspaper.
They were on television.
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They were at 42nd Street.
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They were on light poles.
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Wherever you could stick
a poster with that, they were there.
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[reporter] If you recognize
the victim's clothing,
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or if you have any information
that might help the police,
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the number to call is 477-74...
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[voice distorts]
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[typewriter clacking]
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[indistinct chattering]
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[man] In 1979,
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I was a crime reporter.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[man] I had covered crime,
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but I had never covered crime
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as salacious and as evil
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and as, uh...
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brutal, really.
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I got to know the detectives on this case
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and took a lot of interest
in what they were doing.
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[phone ringing]
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[Rod] And finally, they were given a tip
about one of the victims.
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[phone ringing]
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[woman] A woman named Rose
called the police
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and said, "I recognize the outfit
that you have put on the television
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in regards to this woman."
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"These were my friend's clothes."
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She said it was the outfit and shoes
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her friend left the house in.
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Although police apparently aren't close
to making any arrests,
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they had a major break today
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when they managed to identify
one of the victims.
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[reporter] Police called on
the public for assistance
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and received numerous phone calls.
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One of these calls was part of the process
which led to identification.
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Medical records were checked,
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and identification
came from distinguishing characteristics
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of certain bones and scars on the body.
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If you feel the back of your neck,
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uh, there are bony prominences
that can be noted,
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and those had
a very characteristic, uh, shape.
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It's on that basis
that the identification was made.
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[dramatic music builds up, ends]
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One of the victims from the Travel Inn
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was identified as Deedeh Goodarzi,
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who... was my birth mother.
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[tense music playing]
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[woman] I was adopted...
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at ten weeks.
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When I was a child,
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being adopted
was difficult for me to understand.
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I was an unknown.
I don't know where I came from.
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I wanted to find my biological mother.
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When I turned 26,
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I found the orphanage that I came from.
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And they said,
"We would love it if you came to see us."
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"We have a file for you to look through."
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I was expecting a Lifetime movie
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where I would get to meet, possibly,
the woman who gave birth to me.
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But they gave me
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these terrible newspaper articles
about how she was killed.
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There was a gorgeous picture
of my mother. [chokes up]
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So...
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half of me is so excited
to see my mother's face,
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and then feeling angry...
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[inhales deeply]
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...because her life was taken
in such a horrific manner.
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It's just, uh, inconceivable.
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[Jennifer] Deedeh's life started in Iran.
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[somber music playing]
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She came to America when she was
around eight or nine, and she
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went to Holy Family School in Brooklyn,
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but she never finished high school.
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She had run away a couple times.
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When she became a young adult,
she moved to Trenton, New Jersey,
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and I came to find out
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that she would take the train
on the weekends to New York City...
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[inhales deeply]
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...and she was a sex worker there.
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[Jennifer] Deedeh was considered
a high-priced escort.
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She was working in bars,
working at massage parlors.
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She was the type of sex worker
that only had a couple clients in one day.
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The last time anyone
but her killer saw her alive
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was when she was in Trenton
getting on a train for New York
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just two days before
she was found murdered.
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[female reporter] Police are still looking
for information about the other victim.
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Is it your impression that these two women
might have worked together?
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I feel that she did, uh,
meet with the unidentified girl
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here in the New York City area.
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[man] It's still a mystery
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how Deedeh Goodarzi ended up
in that room with the other girl.
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The other girl we know nothing about.
Not a thing.
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[Reiman] She remained a Jane Doe.
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But based on Deedeh being a prostitute,
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these detectives thought the other victim
was likely a prostitute as well.
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[projector whirring]
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[Rod] The area of Times Square
near the Travel Inn
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had become known for sex workers...
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who worked the streets,
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who worked the hotels,
who worked the bars.
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[Josh] Times Square was thick
with prostitution.
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I mean, there were upwards
of 1,200 prostitutes a night.
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[Dr. Chateauvert] There were women
and men working.
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There might be trans women on one block.
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There might be gay hustlers on another.
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In the late 1970s,
the operative term for being a sex worker
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was "prostitute."
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The problem with using
the word "prostitute"
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is it is so combined
with the notion of sexual shame.
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She's nothing but a slut.
She's a prostitute. She's a whore.
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All of those terms
would later be challenged,
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and they coined the term "sex worker."
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[tense music playing]
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[Reiman] In the 1970s, Times Square became
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a sort of epicenter for the sex trade.
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It was a sex carnival.
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Times Square offered
what you couldn't find anywhere else.
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[woman] One silver dollar,
we'll make you cum, cum, cum.
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[Reiman] It was a place where
you could fulfill forbidden fantasies
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in all sorts of different ways.
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[Veronica] There were the book stores,
the peep shows,
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burlesque clubs,
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and the sex emporiums,
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with barkers whose main cry was,
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"Wall-to-wall pussy."
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[chuckles] That was one
of the favorite cries.
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[woman] Work my body, baby. Ah, yeah.
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There was the illusion
that, yes, anything goes,
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because that is what brings people in.
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[man] People in this country
want to see sex.
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You know,
it's like a Chinese proverb that says,
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you know, "That which is
the least obtainable is the most desired."
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"That which is the most obtainable
is the least desired."
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[interviewer] Nothing as sweet as
a stolen cookie.
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Yeah, basically.
That's about the size of it.
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42nd Street got to be what it was
because of my father,
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Martin Hodas,
the porno king of New York City.
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He was in the right place
at the right time
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and saying,
"Oh my God, do I got a good idea."
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[upbeat music playing]
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[Anthony] In the beginning,
before XXX Times Square emerged,
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there were dirty bookstores
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where you could get girly magazines,
as they were called at the time.
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Very tame stuff by today's standard.
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But then in 1967,
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Marty Hodas invented the peep show
in Times Square.
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[Romola] The first peep shows
that my father had,
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they were the peep machines,
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and you'd put a quarter in,
and you'd be watching porno films.
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[Larry] White-collar workers
could sneak off there on their lunch break
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and take in something X-rated.
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It had a certain appeal to certain people
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because of the feeling
of they're doing something naughty.
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They're doing something dirty, you know?
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They're doing something
they're not supposed to be doing.
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That was the appeal.
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[rock music playing]
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[Romola] But then people wanted more,
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and my dad loved pushing the envelope.
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Any man has the right to view
whatever he feels like viewing,
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which is a wonderful thing.
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[Romola] So my father expanded
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and expanded and expanded.
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He started to make his own films...
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and they were hard-core films.
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[Larry] I started making films for him.
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I tried to make, you know,
little stories and all this stuff.
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Didn't matter.
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The viewers, they were in it for the sex.
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And once Marty opened the floodgates,
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porn had gone from being
this underground thing
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to very overtly overground.
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X-rated theaters started popping up
all over the place.
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Then he started doing the live peep shows.
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[woman] Come on, check it out.
It's all live.
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And it's all happening right here
at Show World Center.
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[Romola] You'd go into a booth,
and you'd put a quarter in,
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and the slot went up,
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where you'd watch five girls, about,
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dancing, stripping, whatnot.
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The idea was to keep teasing the patron
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so that the patron would keep
popping those tokens into the machine.
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[Veronica] At that time, I was a porn star
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and a writer for Penthouse.
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I covered the sex scene in Times Square,
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and I would interview
all of the people who worked there.
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Everybody was, you know,
open about being horny.
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It was a place
where you could lose yourself.
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[Dr. Vronsky] With every year,
it would get... more transgressive,
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more radicalized,
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more sexualized.
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And then they took the glass
out of the peep shows
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so you could interact with...
with the model.
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[Veronica] Men could put their hands
through that hole,
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and he could touch the girls.
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Or he could put his body part in there,
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and the girls could give them
hand jobs and blow jobs.
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00:27:06,499 --> 00:27:10,545
Everybody was really fascinated with sex
and the availability of sex.
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People pushed the limits.
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The barriers were down, anything went.
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00:27:15,383 --> 00:27:17,218
And so these businesses,
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which seemed to be
about pleasure on one side,
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definitely have a much darker side.
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[Romola] There was something...
more than sleazy.
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There was something like...
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like a little dangerous.
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00:27:31,274 --> 00:27:36,029
A lot of bad things
just came along with the... business.
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[sirens wailing]
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00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:42,410
[Romola] There were pimps and drugs
all over the place,
448
00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:46,790
and the mob was really big back then,
Five Families.
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00:27:47,874 --> 00:27:50,377
[Josh] Gambino family ran pornography,
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but secretly behind the scenes,
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all the property and... and the financing
of just about every porn place,
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uh, they were mob-owned,
and they were mob-run.
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[Romola] The porn industry
breeded bad people coming in,
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and I think it caused more crime.
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00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:11,314
Yes, I do.
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It brought it like a magnet.
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00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:20,782
[Dr. Chateauvert] I think
some men saw women
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as people who could be purchased,
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00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:26,663
and once they said,
"Oh, I'll do anything,"
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those men took that to the limit.
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00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:32,252
[sinister music playing]
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[Veronica] There were predators.
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People who came
just to prey on the sex workers.
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To be rough with them,
to physically abuse them.
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00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:47,767
[Jennifer] These people are scary.
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They think that since no one
can see what they're doing,
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that no one's gonna care.
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00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:59,362
And the sex workers are the ones
that take the wrath.
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00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:00,697
[sirens wailing]
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[Jennifer] I think [inhales]
that whole world
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was the reason
why my mother lost her life,
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is because it was complete mayhem.
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00:29:11,291 --> 00:29:12,792
[police radio chatter]
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00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:16,546
[radio static]
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[police radio chatter]
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00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:21,468
[Dr. Vronsky] Once they identified
Deedeh Goodarzi,
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00:29:23,219 --> 00:29:25,513
that was the biggest break they had.
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00:29:26,806 --> 00:29:30,769
Then the police very much shook the bushes
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00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:35,190
on trying to find a motive
for Deedeh's murder
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and a perpetrator.
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00:29:38,401 --> 00:29:40,737
[Reiman] You're looking at the people
who are in her world,
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in her circle of existence.
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00:29:44,574 --> 00:29:47,535
Johns, pimps, drug dealers.
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00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:51,998
That's who you're looking at
and expanding your way outward.
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00:29:54,167 --> 00:29:59,547
[Dr. Vronsky] Deedeh had a pimp,
a guy called James Thomas.
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00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:02,008
She worked for him for years.
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00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:06,262
She also worked
out of some of the mob-owned bars.
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00:30:07,764 --> 00:30:12,227
She was familiar
with a number of Iranian drug dealers
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00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:13,853
that they had interviewed.
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00:30:16,064 --> 00:30:20,860
But after investigating
all these possible perpetrators...
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00:30:23,196 --> 00:30:24,614
it came to nothing.
492
00:30:26,741 --> 00:30:28,451
Nothing, nothing, nothing.
493
00:30:30,245 --> 00:30:32,247
[crowd cheering]
494
00:30:42,173 --> 00:30:43,967
[male reporter] Goodbye to the '70s.
495
00:30:44,050 --> 00:30:47,387
A decade of dreams.
A decade of nightmares.
496
00:30:47,470 --> 00:30:51,266
A decade to which
they said farewell here last night.
497
00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:53,351
[cheering continues]
498
00:30:59,065 --> 00:31:01,067
[tense music playing]
499
00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:06,331
[Geberth] I had just come back
from Quantico,
500
00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:09,450
and I basically came in
on the ground floor of criminal profiling,
501
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:11,870
which was new at the time.
502
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:16,124
Profiling, basically, is an understanding
503
00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:19,627
of the dynamics and behaviors
of offenders and crime scenes.
504
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,463
We look at victimology,
505
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:25,383
we look at signature, autopsy results,
506
00:31:25,466 --> 00:31:26,634
and we look at MO.
507
00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:31,306
[shutter clicking]
508
00:31:32,181 --> 00:31:33,057
[switch clicking]
509
00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:36,394
[Geberth] In this case,
the medical examiner was able to determine
510
00:31:36,477 --> 00:31:40,148
that the heads and hands had been removed...
after death, both of them.
511
00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:47,614
[Reiman] Oftentimes you'll find someone
who's not very experienced at cutting
512
00:31:47,697 --> 00:31:50,950
leaving something called hesitation marks.
513
00:31:51,034 --> 00:31:54,203
You'll see a slice
and then maybe a deeper slice.
514
00:31:54,287 --> 00:31:58,041
They're trying to get a feel
for how difficult it is.
515
00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:04,130
But the killer...
did not seem squeamish at all.
516
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:07,425
He cut right in and kept on cutting.
517
00:32:09,510 --> 00:32:13,056
[Geberth] This tells us
that this individual felt very confident
518
00:32:13,139 --> 00:32:14,766
about what he was doing.
519
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:20,939
[female reporter] The one thing we've got
is plenty of questions.
520
00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:25,318
We asked one of the medical examiners
who conducted the autopsies.
521
00:32:25,401 --> 00:32:27,528
Was there any indication that this killer
522
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:30,949
may have inflicted sadistic injuries
before he killed them?
523
00:32:31,032 --> 00:32:37,080
Yes, there... there were linear abrasions,
scratches all over the body.
524
00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:40,083
No obvious signs of struggle, and, uh,
525
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:41,334
which appears strange.
526
00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:45,505
But there were... There are a lot
of scratch marks on the body.
527
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:52,136
[Geberth] There were puncture marks,
incise marks.
528
00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:56,224
One victim had been bound face down,
529
00:32:56,307 --> 00:33:00,561
and he had taken the blade
and gone up and down her back,
530
00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:03,314
elongated incised type wounds,
531
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:06,359
and the other victim has similar wounds.
532
00:33:07,443 --> 00:33:08,528
They were torture marks.
533
00:33:08,611 --> 00:33:12,323
They were designed to cause pain,
repeated pain.
534
00:33:12,407 --> 00:33:14,742
Can you imagine your whole body being cut?
535
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:18,746
And... and that's... that's what he was doing
over a period of three days.
536
00:33:21,499 --> 00:33:23,501
They had also been sexually assaulted.
537
00:33:25,336 --> 00:33:29,590
Deedeh Goodarzi was stabbed
through the back into the lung.
538
00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:35,096
The ME declares cause of death
as the stab wound.
539
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:40,601
[Reiman] What they determined in time
was these women died at different times.
540
00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:44,522
So one endured witnessing
what had happened to the other.
541
00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:46,607
[sinister music playing]
542
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:55,074
[Jennifer] I had awful visions
of what could have happened in that room.
543
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,619
Because the fire,
because the mutilation, the decapitation.
544
00:33:58,703 --> 00:34:00,621
All of it was...
545
00:34:01,622 --> 00:34:03,332
It was just awful.
546
00:34:06,836 --> 00:34:08,838
[sinister music playing]
547
00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:15,219
The behavior cried out that we're dealing
with a psychopathic sexual sadist.
548
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:20,433
These people have a tendency
549
00:34:20,516 --> 00:34:24,687
to want to hurt and cause pain
550
00:34:24,771 --> 00:34:26,981
in order to get sexually satisfied.
551
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:31,319
They're basically trying
to fulfill a fantasy.
552
00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:34,363
Usually, it goes back
to their early childhood.
553
00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:39,994
At first, they use pornography
to implement the fantasy.
554
00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:44,707
And like any other stimulant,
555
00:34:44,791 --> 00:34:46,584
what happens, it becomes addictive,
556
00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:48,878
and they want more of it.
557
00:34:49,712 --> 00:34:54,717
Ultimately, in the mind
of the psychopathic sexual sadist,
558
00:34:54,801 --> 00:34:59,472
at a certain point, you'll see these guys
they wanna actually get a real victim,
559
00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:03,267
but the victim is just a prop
to fulfill the fantasy.
560
00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:06,771
So there's no empathy.
All right, there's no remorse.
561
00:35:07,688 --> 00:35:11,025
There's no feeling. There's no connection
that there's another human being there.
562
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:19,784
[Dr. Vronsky] There is this struggle
to transform one's fantasy into reality
563
00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:25,248
and... do it in a way
that's as perfect as the fantasy.
564
00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:26,958
And it never is.
565
00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:30,503
[Geberth] You ever hear
of the psychology of evil?
566
00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:33,840
That's what we're talking about here.
The psychology of evil.
567
00:35:35,842 --> 00:35:38,678
But if you're a true
psychopathic sexual sadist,
568
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:40,972
you can fool people.
569
00:35:42,431 --> 00:35:44,392
They can present as "normal"
570
00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:48,521
to their neighbors, relatives,
and co-workers...
571
00:35:51,232 --> 00:35:54,527
because they've been able
to compartmentalize that evil.
572
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,822
[sinister music playing]
573
00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:09,041
[computer tape reels clacking]
574
00:36:10,751 --> 00:36:12,086
[phone ringing]
575
00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:18,384
[man] Back then,
I was working on 3rd Avenue...
576
00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:24,807
not far from the bright lights
of Times Square.
577
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:31,731
I worked at Blue Cross Blue Shield
on a Honeywell H8200 computer.
578
00:36:32,648 --> 00:36:37,111
H8200 is about the size
of one floor of an office building.
579
00:36:38,112 --> 00:36:41,115
- [projector whirring]
- I sat there with a bunch of engineers.
580
00:36:41,824 --> 00:36:44,911
They loved to brag about adventures
581
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:48,164
like most guys do at work.
582
00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:50,041
[phone ringing]
583
00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,127
[Dominick] There was one guy,
584
00:36:53,961 --> 00:36:56,172
most of the people called him Richie.
585
00:36:58,299 --> 00:36:59,926
His last name was Cottingham,
586
00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:03,638
so instead of saying that long word,
I used to call him "the Cott."
587
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:09,936
He talked a lot about prowling
the streets of Times Square,
588
00:37:10,686 --> 00:37:12,438
picking up prostitutes.
589
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:17,068
He had endless energy
when it came to that.
590
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:20,071
[horns honking]
591
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:24,867
I can't tell you
what I had for breakfast yesterday,
592
00:37:26,619 --> 00:37:28,955
but I could remember
everything about this man.
593
00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:37,880
Times Square
was attractive to Richie because
594
00:37:39,423 --> 00:37:44,428
all these extracurricular activities
was all in one place.
595
00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:49,475
His shift was from 4:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m.
596
00:37:51,227 --> 00:37:52,728
It was a skeleton crew,
597
00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:55,523
so no one cared about
what we did on our shift.
598
00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,986
If you wanted to take a hike,
599
00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:03,489
kill a couple hours
in all these massage parlors,
600
00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:08,160
or the film pornography,
live pornography peep show places,
601
00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:10,329
he could get away with it.
602
00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:13,791
[tense music playing]
603
00:38:15,418 --> 00:38:17,545
[Dominick] He would give you
a detailed map
604
00:38:17,628 --> 00:38:20,214
if you wanted to know
where the girls were.
605
00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:24,176
He was like a... a tour guide for hookers.
606
00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:30,683
The thing that'd draw
the women to him was C-A-S-H.
607
00:38:30,766 --> 00:38:32,935
Cash, lots of cash.
608
00:38:35,187 --> 00:38:40,234
Richard, at any time, would have two
or three thousand dollars in each pocket.
609
00:38:41,068 --> 00:38:42,361
And he waved it around.
610
00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:44,238
He made sure you... you saw it.
611
00:38:46,574 --> 00:38:48,200
He bought what he wanted.
612
00:38:50,369 --> 00:38:53,664
He said, "If I pay a girl,
she's gonna do anything I tell her to do."
613
00:38:57,043 --> 00:38:59,837
Richie talked a lot about Plato's Retreat,
614
00:39:00,963 --> 00:39:03,299
the swing club right off Times Square.
615
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:10,931
[Allen] So as a photographer,
as a journalist, there were places that
616
00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,310
I would go to on my own
617
00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:17,313
just because I was very curious.
618
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:21,692
[chuckling] I was there with a camera.
I... I got a lot of great photos.
619
00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:27,865
Plato's Retreat was a place
that, uh, couples could go
620
00:39:27,948 --> 00:39:29,825
and swap partners with other couples,
621
00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:33,954
or even engage in, uh, group sex
622
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,040
in what they called the orgy room.
623
00:39:36,791 --> 00:39:39,752
There were cubicles which were private.
624
00:39:39,835 --> 00:39:41,462
You know, lock the door.
625
00:39:41,545 --> 00:39:43,589
You don't know what people
are doing in there.
626
00:39:45,341 --> 00:39:48,427
Plato's Retreat is more than just a club.
It's an institution.
627
00:39:50,638 --> 00:39:52,473
It's a monument to sexual freedom.
628
00:39:54,975 --> 00:39:56,477
[Dominick] It was just, uh...
629
00:39:56,977 --> 00:40:00,731
a sewer of, uh... sexuality.
630
00:40:01,857 --> 00:40:07,405
Richard would talk about
how easy women were to get into bed.
631
00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:13,452
Everyone there
was fascinated with, uh, with sex.
632
00:40:14,578 --> 00:40:20,543
There was an open almost exchange
of, uh, sex acts and, uh, behavior.
633
00:40:22,169 --> 00:40:24,755
Plato's attracted a crowd,
634
00:40:25,631 --> 00:40:26,757
a lot of women...
635
00:40:29,552 --> 00:40:31,095
and a lot of sex workers.
636
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:37,643
This includes, uh, incidentally...
637
00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:41,397
Deedeh Goodarzi,
638
00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:45,109
one of the victims at the Travel Inn.
639
00:40:45,192 --> 00:40:47,194
[dramatic music playing]
640
00:40:49,488 --> 00:40:51,657
[fire truck horn blaring]
641
00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:53,868
[sirens wailing]
642
00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:02,460
[Geberth] Now it's May 15th
in New York City,
643
00:41:02,543 --> 00:41:04,795
and the firefighters are once again called
644
00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:07,256
to a hotel, the Hotel Seville.
645
00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:12,386
It was right off Madison Avenue
and 29th Street,
646
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,138
which is east of Times Square.
647
00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:18,267
The police were called,
detectives responded,
648
00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:20,227
Manhattan South Homicide responded.
649
00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:22,313
[projector whirring]
650
00:41:24,523 --> 00:41:26,484
[Reiman] There was a room set on fire.
651
00:41:30,362 --> 00:41:32,448
And when they went inside...
652
00:41:36,243 --> 00:41:38,162
there's another mutilated woman.
653
00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:40,664
[dramatic music playing]
654
00:41:45,252 --> 00:41:46,795
[Reiman] She was found beaten...
655
00:41:48,672 --> 00:41:51,008
tortured, naked,
656
00:41:52,551 --> 00:41:53,886
sexually assaulted...
657
00:41:56,055 --> 00:41:57,389
strangled to death.
658
00:41:58,641 --> 00:42:00,643
[projector whirring]
659
00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:03,854
[Geberth] Once again,
660
00:42:04,813 --> 00:42:07,274
it looked like
a psychopathic sexual sadist.
661
00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:11,820
But in this case,
the heads and hands were not taken.
662
00:42:14,114 --> 00:42:16,534
But instead, he removed both her breasts
663
00:42:16,617 --> 00:42:18,744
and placed them on the headboard
664
00:42:19,453 --> 00:42:20,704
for shock value.
665
00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:22,331
[shutter clicking]
666
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,085
[Reiman] Once again,
looking at the crime scene,
667
00:42:26,835 --> 00:42:29,046
it was very neat.
668
00:42:30,422 --> 00:42:32,508
There was no evidence.
669
00:42:34,009 --> 00:42:36,512
But this time, the hands,
670
00:42:36,595 --> 00:42:38,180
they were left behind
671
00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:42,142
so they could be used for fingerprints.
672
00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:48,983
[Geberth] She was identified
as Jean Ann Reyner.
673
00:42:50,025 --> 00:42:52,027
She had been arrested for prostitution,
674
00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:55,030
ironically just a couple of weeks before.
675
00:42:59,493 --> 00:43:03,581
Jean Reyner was... a young mother.
676
00:43:03,664 --> 00:43:06,875
She was a daughter. She was a sister.
677
00:43:07,543 --> 00:43:13,507
She... was killed horrifically,
leaving behind a small boy.
678
00:43:15,884 --> 00:43:18,470
[Dr. Vronsky] She was working
as a sex worker
679
00:43:19,305 --> 00:43:23,851
essentially to finance
a custody suit she had
680
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,687
to retain custody of her son.
681
00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:29,189
That's about all we know about her.
682
00:43:32,192 --> 00:43:35,613
[Geberth] When you compare
the presentation of the crime scene
683
00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:36,822
to the Travel Inn,
684
00:43:36,905 --> 00:43:39,283
and the type of injuries to the body,
685
00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:42,995
you'd have no doubt
they were inflicted by the same person.
686
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:48,917
Also, the fact that you're looking
at another prostitute getting killed.
687
00:43:51,253 --> 00:43:54,465
As a profiler, that says one thing.
688
00:43:55,799 --> 00:43:57,885
I got a serial killer. That's it.
689
00:44:03,098 --> 00:44:06,685
[Dominick] The Hotel Seville
was not that far from work.
690
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,065
We called it "slaughter at the Seville."
691
00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,360
And that's exactly what it was.
692
00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:20,491
One morning,
Richard and I were sitting at the console,
693
00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:24,787
and Cottingham
was in his chair rocking away,
694
00:44:25,371 --> 00:44:29,041
and one of our peripheral operators
came in, Bob,
695
00:44:29,124 --> 00:44:32,670
with the newspaper in his hand,
and it was on the front page.
696
00:44:34,338 --> 00:44:37,007
And Bob threw it down
on the console and said,
697
00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:40,844
"What sick son of a bitch
could do something like this?"
698
00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:44,306
Cottingham's rocking back and forth
in his chair,
699
00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:47,601
and he looked up at Bob,
and he said, "Bob,
700
00:44:48,185 --> 00:44:50,396
could've been you, could've been me."
701
00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:55,693
[sinister music playing]
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