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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:00,293 --> 00:02:04,579 In 1968 a new phase is now starting. 2 00:02:04,614 --> 00:02:10,670 We have reached an important point when the end begins to come into view. 3 00:02:18,716 --> 00:02:23,813 Tet, the Vietnamese New Year.A massive Vietcong 4 00:02:23,848 --> 00:02:27,397 and North Vietnamese offensive struck the cities of South Vietnam. 5 00:02:40,948 --> 00:02:44,828 The attacks spilled into the living rooms of America 6 00:02:44,828 --> 00:02:47,760 and split the White House staff. 7 00:02:49,090 --> 00:02:52,873 Yes, I was optimistic after the Tet offensive 8 00:02:52,908 --> 00:02:57,238 -- even more optimistic in a sense than before -- 9 00:02:57,347 --> 00:02:57,347 because it's one thing to have confidence 10 00:02:57,347 --> 00:03:01,110 that you're going to cope with this maximum effort. 11 00:03:01,145 --> 00:03:04,389 It's another thing to see that everyone was coping. 12 00:03:04,424 --> 00:03:08,692 You'll see that the cables from Saigon, from Ambassador Bunker, 13 00:03:08,727 --> 00:03:12,986 told us that the enemy was defeated on the ground very early. 14 00:03:13,021 --> 00:03:14,340 It would take time to mop up. 15 00:03:21,593 --> 00:03:25,813 For the rest of us who were not in the National Security Council staff 16 00:03:25,848 --> 00:03:30,044 even though we were reading many of those cables 17 00:03:30,079 --> 00:03:33,655 and going down there for such reassurance as we could get 18 00:03:33,690 --> 00:03:36,723 we were also watching the American television. 19 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:40,760 And American television was showing a different sight. 20 00:03:40,795 --> 00:03:46,337 That sense of the awfulness, the endlessness of the war. 21 00:03:46,372 --> 00:03:52,024 The unethical quality that did not recognize that when a man was taken prisoner, 22 00:03:52,059 --> 00:03:54,652 he was not to be shot at point blank range. 23 00:03:54,687 --> 00:03:59,891 The terrible sight of General Luan raising his revolver 24 00:03:59,926 --> 00:04:04,754 to the head of a captured Vietcong and killing him. 25 00:04:10,707 --> 00:04:15,380 They were awful contradictions -- the cables on the one side, 26 00:04:15,415 --> 00:04:18,369 the television on the other.It was very disturbing. 27 00:04:22,122 --> 00:04:25,293 Vietnam was history's first television war. 28 00:04:25,328 --> 00:04:28,307 Now as the fighting ripped into Saigon, 29 00:04:28,342 --> 00:04:33,208 millions of Americans watched the battle on the evening news. 30 00:04:33,243 --> 00:04:37,824 We've got another, two more alert forces that are trying to 31 00:04:37,859 --> 00:04:41,215 push him out this way but he's got -- he's heavily fortified. 32 00:04:41,250 --> 00:04:42,085 He's got a lot of ammo. 33 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,117 What's he got, small arms? 34 00:04:43,152 --> 00:04:45,915 Small arms, automatic fire, grenade launcher, and hand grenades. 35 00:04:45,950 --> 00:04:47,286 You lost any men here? 36 00:04:47,321 --> 00:04:51,066 Well, I've got, uh five, five, six, six people I've had wounded. 37 00:04:51,101 --> 00:04:56,077 Now CIA men and MPs have gone into the embassy 38 00:04:56,112 --> 00:05:01,716 and are trying to get the snipers out by themselves. 39 00:05:12,485 --> 00:05:17,507 Nothing dramatized the Vietcong's drive more vividly to Americans than 40 00:05:17,542 --> 00:05:20,653 the scene inside the U.S. Embassy compound in Saigon, 41 00:05:20,688 --> 00:05:22,552 the South Vietnamese capital. 42 00:05:22,587 --> 00:05:27,459 The center of American power in Vietnam had come under fire. 43 00:05:41,111 --> 00:05:45,834 General, how would you assess yesterday's activities and today's? 44 00:05:45,869 --> 00:05:48,768 What is the enemy doing? Are these major attacks or(explosion)... 45 00:05:50,346 --> 00:05:55,457 That's EOD setting off a couple of M-79 duds, I believe. 46 00:05:55,492 --> 00:06:01,093 General, how would you assess the enemy's purposes yesterday and today? 47 00:06:01,128 --> 00:06:07,854 The enemy, very deceitfully, has taken advantage of the Tet truce 48 00:06:07,889 --> 00:06:17,709 in order to create maximum consternation within South Vietnam, 49 00:06:17,744 --> 00:06:20,107 particularly in the populated areas. 50 00:06:23,148 --> 00:06:26,622 The consternation was indeed maximum. 51 00:06:29,518 --> 00:06:32,717 For years the North Vietnamese and Vietcong 52 00:06:32,752 --> 00:06:35,620 had fought mainly in the rice fields and jungles. 53 00:06:35,655 --> 00:06:40,063 Now, for the first time, they were fighting in the cities 54 00:06:40,098 --> 00:06:41,967 in their biggest offensive of the war. 55 00:06:47,342 --> 00:06:51,544 They hit nearly every province and district capital across South Vietnam. 56 00:06:51,579 --> 00:06:55,322 They hit Westmoreland's own headquarters near the Saigon airport. 57 00:06:55,357 --> 00:07:01,320 They hit key targets throughout Saigon, including the government radio station. 58 00:07:01,355 --> 00:07:05,258 This is the main Vietnamese language radio station in Saigon, 59 00:07:05,293 --> 00:07:09,493 and right now there are an undisclosed number of VC inside occupying the station. 60 00:07:09,528 --> 00:07:11,595 They're not broadcasting on the air 61 00:07:11,630 --> 00:07:14,160 and they're surrounded by South Vietnamese troops. 62 00:07:14,195 --> 00:07:16,004 And they're pinned down inside. 63 00:07:16,039 --> 00:07:22,463 We think they're going to be throwing,we think they're going to be throwing 64 00:07:22,498 --> 00:07:24,689 tear gas any moment now to try to get them out that way. 65 00:07:24,724 --> 00:07:28,574 There's been a lot of shooting out the windows from inside up on the second floor. 66 00:07:35,756 --> 00:07:41,116 A comrade inside the radio station had captured an enemy machine gun 67 00:07:41,151 --> 00:07:44,019 and had fought with it throughout the night. 68 00:07:44,054 --> 00:07:48,463 By nine o'clock in the morning, he had only 20 rounds left. 69 00:07:48,498 --> 00:07:54,651 He was wounded, his leg shattered. He asked me to go and find out 70 00:07:54,686 --> 00:07:58,235 whether he should try to hold the place or blow it up. 71 00:07:58,270 --> 00:08:01,388 At about ten o'clock in the morning, 72 00:08:01,423 --> 00:08:06,496 we had only eight men inside with a very large explosive. 73 00:08:06,531 --> 00:08:09,701 They detonated the explosive, 74 00:08:09,736 --> 00:08:15,100 destroying the entire radio station and sacrificed themselves in the blast. 75 00:08:57,984 --> 00:09:03,776 U.S. combat troops had been in Vietnam for nearly three years before Tet, 1968. 76 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:08,264 Yet all their superior power had failed to grind down the enemy. 77 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,754 The war was deadlocked. 78 00:09:26,198 --> 00:09:31,949 In July 1967, Communist planners in Hanoi debated their next move. 79 00:09:31,984 --> 00:09:35,628 Some wanted to continue their war of attrition. 80 00:09:35,663 --> 00:09:39,700 But Ho Chi Minh approved a bold offensive 81 00:09:39,735 --> 00:09:43,395 designed to break the deadlock and open the way to power. 82 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:48,594 The war in 1967 posed a different problem for Lyndon Johnson. 83 00:09:48,629 --> 00:09:54,257 He had to raise taxes to continue both the war and his social programs. 84 00:09:54,292 --> 00:09:59,992 To rally domestic support, he had to promise light at the end of the tunnel. 85 00:10:00,027 --> 00:10:04,360 How do you see it, General?Very very encouraged. 86 00:10:04,395 --> 00:10:06,962 I've never been more encouraged during my entire, 87 00:10:06,997 --> 00:10:11,213 almost four years in this country.I think we're making real progress. 88 00:10:11,248 --> 00:10:13,943 Everybody is very optimistic that I know of, 89 00:10:13,978 --> 00:10:17,047 who is intimately associated with our effort there. 90 00:10:17,082 --> 00:10:21,347 We feel that on the military side there has been substantial progress 91 00:10:21,382 --> 00:10:24,668 over the past two years, that in the last six months, 92 00:10:24,703 --> 00:10:30,379 the progress has been even more rapid than in the 18 months before that. 93 00:10:30,414 --> 00:10:35,121 All the challenges have been met. 94 00:10:35,156 --> 00:10:41,462 The enemy is not beaten but he knows that he has met his master in the field. 95 00:10:46,708 --> 00:10:52,163 Johnson had orchestrated this campaign of optimism only weeks before Tet. 96 00:10:52,198 --> 00:10:57,683 But he had reason to believe an enemy attack of some kind was coming. 97 00:11:00,031 --> 00:11:02,567 During the two previous years, 98 00:11:02,602 --> 00:11:07,338 the Communists had staged winter offensives along South Vietnam's borders. 99 00:11:07,373 --> 00:11:12,268 Now as U.S. intelligence detected large deployments moving south, 100 00:11:12,303 --> 00:11:15,364 Westmoreland expected similar assaults. 101 00:11:20,162 --> 00:11:24,364 He rushed 6,000 American Marines and South Vietnamese troops 102 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:28,999 to Khesanh, a remote frontier outpost near the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 103 00:11:29,034 --> 00:11:33,417 From here he had hoped to control North Vietnamese infiltration 104 00:11:33,452 --> 00:11:35,923 into South Vietnam's northern provinces. 105 00:11:47,230 --> 00:11:53,033 The North Vietnamese attacked Khesanh in January, several days before Tet. 106 00:12:00,983 --> 00:12:05,127 Westmoreland thought this would be a decisive engagement. 107 00:12:05,162 --> 00:12:12,200 I think his plans concerned a major effort 108 00:12:12,235 --> 00:12:19,388 to win a spectacular battlefield success on the eve of Tet, 109 00:12:19,423 --> 00:12:23,683 which is the Chinese New Year, which takes place at the end of this month. 110 00:12:23,718 --> 00:12:28,390 Johnson was so concerned that he kept a model of Khesanh in the White House. 111 00:12:28,425 --> 00:12:32,120 But neither he nor his generals then fully knew 112 00:12:32,155 --> 00:12:35,108 the Communists' real purpose in fighting there. 113 00:12:35,143 --> 00:12:42,743 I did feel it was a target that the enemy was very much interested in, 114 00:12:42,778 --> 00:12:47,233 that he would want to seize it.And I wanted to fight him 115 00:12:47,268 --> 00:12:51,033 in the hinterland rather than allow him to get down among the people, 116 00:12:51,068 --> 00:12:54,292 which would have been very costly in casualties. 117 00:12:54,327 --> 00:12:59,202 Our objective was to inflict casualties on the enemy of Khesanh, 118 00:12:59,237 --> 00:13:01,829 thus compelling him to shift more of his forces there 119 00:13:01,864 --> 00:13:03,621 from the southern part of the country. 120 00:13:03,656 --> 00:13:06,196 In that way, it would be possible for our people 121 00:13:06,231 --> 00:13:09,093 to organize in order to liberate the South. 122 00:13:09,128 --> 00:13:12,902 But because we drew larger enemy forces into Khesanh, 123 00:13:12,937 --> 00:13:16,079 and allowed them to supply and reinforce themselves, 124 00:13:16,114 --> 00:13:19,474 we could not turn the encounter into a final big battle. 125 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:25,845 Days after they began to shell Khesanh, the Communist commanders issued 126 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,150 final orders for their nationwide offensive against South Vietnam's cities. 127 00:13:31,984 --> 00:13:37,137 The longest battle was waged for Hue, the old imperial capital. 128 00:13:37,172 --> 00:13:40,841 Survivors of the battle tell different stories. 129 00:13:40,876 --> 00:13:44,858 One is a refugee with family still in Vietnam. 130 00:13:44,893 --> 00:13:51,882 The night of Tet, the lunar New Year, was different from other New Year's eves. 131 00:13:54,117 --> 00:13:58,317 Firecrackers went on longer. They came faster and faster. 132 00:13:58,352 --> 00:14:02,359 There were more -- many more -- than on other New Years. 133 00:14:02,394 --> 00:14:11,205 The sounds of firecrackers and gunfire interspersed.Nobody realized 134 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,975 that it was the gunfire of Communists who were overrunning the city of Hue. 135 00:14:25,193 --> 00:14:31,273 At that time, I was at the nursing school, now the secondary school for nurses. 136 00:14:31,308 --> 00:14:36,167 I was among the students there, and weapons were smuggled into us. 137 00:14:36,202 --> 00:14:40,970 At the nursing school we also managed to print a number of leaflets and tracts 138 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:46,481 for the National Liberation Front calling on the population to remain calm 139 00:14:46,516 --> 00:14:50,386 and not carry out reprisals when its forces entered the city. 140 00:14:50,421 --> 00:14:55,092 For example, when people arrested an enemy agent, 141 00:14:55,127 --> 00:14:57,470 they were to turn him over to the cadres. 142 00:15:08,498 --> 00:15:14,093 Communist soldiers came in and asked my father his occupation and his residence. 143 00:15:14,128 --> 00:15:17,351 They told my father to describe his background. 144 00:15:17,386 --> 00:15:22,781 My father replied that he was deputy district chief of Trieuphong and 145 00:15:22,816 --> 00:15:25,623 that he was already old and would retire in one year. 146 00:15:25,658 --> 00:15:31,410 They wrote down everything, then went on to other houses. 147 00:15:35,016 --> 00:15:39,576 The North Vietnamese and Vietcong dominated Hue for three days. 148 00:15:43,488 --> 00:15:47,966 They rounded up South Vietnamese officials and government sympathizers. 149 00:15:48,001 --> 00:15:54,726 Some eluded arrest and fled with other civilians. Many did not. 150 00:15:54,761 --> 00:15:59,891 My father was ordered to attend a study session for ten days, 151 00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:02,874 and he was told that he would be released afterward. 152 00:16:02,909 --> 00:16:06,249 My mother and I accompanied him to the school. 153 00:16:06,284 --> 00:16:09,383 There were about 100 persons there. 154 00:16:09,418 --> 00:16:13,076 We stayed there until we saw my father leave. 155 00:16:13,111 --> 00:16:17,960 My mother and I were very worried because in 1946, 156 00:16:17,995 --> 00:16:22,217 my father's father had been arrested in the same way by the Communists. 157 00:16:22,252 --> 00:16:24,369 He never returned. 158 00:16:28,318 --> 00:16:32,756 The people so hated those who had tortured them in the past that, 159 00:16:32,791 --> 00:16:37,258 when the revolution came to Hue, they rooted out those despots 160 00:16:37,293 --> 00:16:41,667 to get rid of them -- just as they would poisonous snakes who, 161 00:16:41,702 --> 00:16:45,059 if allowed to live, would commit further crimes. 162 00:16:48,204 --> 00:16:51,866 Troops of South Vietnam's First Infantry Division joined 163 00:16:51,901 --> 00:16:54,918 U.S. Marines in the counter-attack against Hue. 164 00:16:59,815 --> 00:17:04,446 Many were fighting for their homes and for an historic city. 165 00:17:06,189 --> 00:17:09,928 The Nguyen emperors had built the Citadel, 166 00:17:09,963 --> 00:17:13,062 Hue's walled fortress, early in the nineteenth century. 167 00:17:13,097 --> 00:17:19,378 They modeled it on the impregnable Forbidden City in Peking, the Chinese capital. 168 00:17:19,413 --> 00:17:25,142 The North Vietnamese army set up a command post next to the throne, 169 00:17:25,177 --> 00:17:27,882 in the Palace of Perfect Peace. 170 00:17:27,917 --> 00:17:35,088 Delta Company, First Battalion, Fifth Regiment, U.S. Marines headed for the Citadel. 171 00:17:35,123 --> 00:17:40,835 I think my most vivid memory as I went in was in talking with 172 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:44,562 one of the other company commanders who had already been participating there 173 00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:46,904 in the action for a couple of days, 174 00:17:46,939 --> 00:17:52,401 and in a very matter-of-fact way without a great deal of embellishment 175 00:17:52,436 --> 00:17:59,084 on his part he just frightened the hell out of me in telling me how bad it was. 176 00:18:04,655 --> 00:18:08,352 And I thought in my mind right then and there that, you know, hey, 177 00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:12,783 here I am with a fresh company and I knew without having to be told 178 00:18:12,818 --> 00:18:16,735 that what my mission was going to be the next day, was going to be 179 00:18:16,770 --> 00:18:21,535 to go try to take this fortified tower position along the east wall. 180 00:18:26,358 --> 00:18:29,939 And, sure enough, that evening when I went in to be briefed, 181 00:18:29,974 --> 00:18:32,786 Major Thompson, he just said,"Delta Company, 182 00:18:32,821 --> 00:18:35,848 tomorrow you're going to take that east wall." 183 00:18:35,883 --> 00:18:39,408 And I said, "Aye, aye, sir" and went at it. 184 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:26,259 What's the hardest part of it? 185 00:19:26,294 --> 00:19:29,814 Not knowing where they are -- that's the worst thing. 186 00:19:29,849 --> 00:19:32,652 Riding around, running in the sewers, the gutters, anywhere. 187 00:19:32,687 --> 00:19:36,441 Could be anywhere. Just hope you can stay alive, day to day. 188 00:19:36,476 --> 00:19:39,872 Everybody just wants to go back home and go to school. That's about it. 189 00:19:39,907 --> 00:19:41,176 Have you lost any friends? 190 00:19:41,211 --> 00:19:46,062 Quite a few. We lost one the other day. The whole thing stinks, really. 191 00:19:55,796 --> 00:19:58,761 Two days later, on February 14, 192 00:19:58,796 --> 00:20:04,541 Delta Company took the fortified tower, then moved on. 193 00:20:07,860 --> 00:20:12,864 We tried our best to avoid malicious damage, if you would. 194 00:20:12,899 --> 00:20:15,517 We just didn't shoot at walls just to blow them down. 195 00:20:15,552 --> 00:20:19,868 But when we had to shoot at a house, we shot at a house. 196 00:20:19,903 --> 00:20:22,870 When we had to destroy a house, we destroyed it. 197 00:20:27,931 --> 00:20:31,690 But we didn't go in there with the express purpose 198 00:20:31,725 --> 00:20:37,343 that this is a wonderful opportunity to show how great our weapons are 199 00:20:37,378 --> 00:20:39,845 and how much destructive power they possess. 200 00:20:45,434 --> 00:20:51,092 As a result of their being so entrenched, it required for us 201 00:20:51,127 --> 00:20:55,724 to bring maximum fire power at our disposal to eliminate them. 202 00:21:08,393 --> 00:21:11,762 But we were fortunate in that we did have the weapons that were capable 203 00:21:11,797 --> 00:21:15,945 of routing the NVA and the Vietcong out of their positions. 204 00:21:21,354 --> 00:21:25,233 They directed artillery fire into the area where I lived. 205 00:21:29,476 --> 00:21:39,724 All the houses and trees were destroyed. They also directed rocket fire 206 00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:42,600 against the homes of the people in my neighborhood. 207 00:21:45,583 --> 00:21:49,290 The people here use kerosene and gasoline, and so their homes 208 00:21:49,325 --> 00:21:52,268 burst into flames when they were hit by the rockets. 209 00:22:00,049 --> 00:22:03,782 Old folks -- children and pregnant women who could not flee 210 00:22:03,817 --> 00:22:05,638 were burned alive in their homes. 211 00:22:25,975 --> 00:22:31,223 And throughout all of this, you constantly had this fear. 212 00:22:31,258 --> 00:22:34,804 Not so much that you were going to die, 213 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:37,025 because I think to a certain degree that was a given. 214 00:22:37,060 --> 00:22:43,055 This was combined with the semi-darkness type of environment 215 00:22:43,090 --> 00:22:45,885 that we were fighting in because of the low overcast -- 216 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,459 the fact that we didn't see the sun -- gave it a very eerie, spooky look. 217 00:22:54,486 --> 00:22:57,509 You had this utter devastation all around you. 218 00:23:02,306 --> 00:23:04,619 You had this horrible smell. 219 00:23:04,654 --> 00:23:07,789 I mean you just cannot describe the smell of death 220 00:23:07,824 --> 00:23:11,240 especially when you're looking at it a couple of weeks along. 221 00:23:11,275 --> 00:23:17,463 It's horrible. It was there when you ate your rations. 222 00:23:17,498 --> 00:23:21,898 It was almost like you were eating death. You couldn't escape it. 223 00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:27,922 After 24 days of fierce fighting, South Vietnamese army units 224 00:23:27,957 --> 00:23:31,168 entered the Citadel and raised the flag of South Vietnam. 225 00:23:31,203 --> 00:23:35,907 Hue had been saved but destroyed. 226 00:23:42,478 --> 00:23:45,610 Seventy-five percent of its people were homeless. 227 00:23:45,645 --> 00:23:50,817 Eight thousand soldiers and civilians on both sides had been killed in the fighting. 228 00:23:50,852 --> 00:23:54,219 But the final toll was higher. 229 00:23:57,730 --> 00:24:03,292 In 1969, a Communist defected and told the chief of Thua Thien province 230 00:24:03,327 --> 00:24:05,641 that the Communists had buried a number of people 231 00:24:05,676 --> 00:24:08,182 in the Xuan O and Xuan Doi areas. 232 00:24:08,217 --> 00:24:14,462 The province chief ordered the bodies dug up, to exhume the remains 233 00:24:14,497 --> 00:24:17,018 those who had been arrested during the Tet offensive. 234 00:24:17,053 --> 00:24:24,222 I, along with others whose relatives had been killed, inspected the remains. 235 00:24:24,257 --> 00:24:31,927 The smell was terrible, but we had loved and missed our relatives, 236 00:24:31,962 --> 00:24:34,859 and it was our duty to search for them. 237 00:24:34,894 --> 00:24:40,248 Those who found the remains of their relatives were gratified, 238 00:24:40,283 --> 00:24:48,315 and those who could not were sad. I continued looking along with others. 239 00:24:51,172 --> 00:24:54,279 At Phu Tu, eight more tunnels were dug up. 240 00:24:56,278 --> 00:25:00,183 Strangely, all the skulls of the skeletons were smashed. 241 00:25:00,218 --> 00:25:06,194 Their arms were tied, and their positions indicated that they died kneeling. 242 00:25:06,229 --> 00:25:11,909 The skeletons were not stretched out.They were bundled up or huddled. 243 00:25:11,944 --> 00:25:17,873 I went on following the search party up until September 1969, 244 00:25:17,908 --> 00:25:21,209 but I never found my father's remains. 245 00:25:31,232 --> 00:25:35,339 The bodies found in the mass graves were solemnly buried by the 246 00:25:35,374 --> 00:25:43,492 South Vietnamese government-bodies of officials, army officers, priests, students. 247 00:25:43,527 --> 00:25:49,058 Some, who bore no visible marks of violence, had presumably been buried alive. 248 00:25:54,586 --> 00:25:59,126 Twenty-eight hundred bodies were eventually found, 249 00:25:59,161 --> 00:26:02,956 and the massacre prompted U.S. and South Vietnamese officials 250 00:26:02,991 --> 00:26:05,943 to predict a bloodbath if the Communists won the war. 251 00:26:09,785 --> 00:26:14,621 For the Communists, however, the Tet offensive fell short of their expectations. 252 00:26:20,853 --> 00:26:24,514 At that time, in the North, we had devoted our resources and our energy 253 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:27,921 to the liberation of the South in 1968, 254 00:26:33,111 --> 00:26:40,981 and when this could not be achieved we certainly felt a little let down. 255 00:26:47,591 --> 00:26:52,072 Looking back at it now, it is clear that the first objective 256 00:26:52,107 --> 00:26:55,330 -- the liberation of the South -- was not accomplished. 257 00:26:55,365 --> 00:27:00,933 But at that time we did attack the command centers of the American forces 258 00:27:00,968 --> 00:27:05,647 and the puppet regime in the urban areas as well as in the provinces. 259 00:27:05,682 --> 00:27:11,007 We attacked the provincial headquarters, the Saigon presidential palace, 260 00:27:11,042 --> 00:27:15,107 the various secret police headquarters and the radio stations. 261 00:27:15,142 --> 00:27:19,229 And in Saigon we fought our way into the American embassy, 262 00:27:19,264 --> 00:27:22,944 which was the most important American headquarters in the South. 263 00:27:22,979 --> 00:27:29,917 We were able to occupy all these places, but we could not hold them. 264 00:27:29,952 --> 00:27:33,421 There-fore, we did not gain enough time for the people 265 00:27:33,456 --> 00:27:35,318 to stage their general uprising. 266 00:27:39,854 --> 00:27:43,474 For us, you know, strategy is never purely military. 267 00:27:43,509 --> 00:27:50,204 Our strategy is always a general, an integrated strategy: 268 00:27:50,239 --> 00:27:55,173 simultaneously military, political and diplomatic. 269 00:27:59,037 --> 00:28:04,889 Thus the Tet offensive of 1968 obviously had an objective 270 00:28:04,924 --> 00:28:07,713 that was both military and political. 271 00:28:20,929 --> 00:28:24,676 As a military operation, the offensive had failed. 272 00:28:25,089 --> 00:28:29,241 The southern Vietcong guerrilla forces had surfaced, 273 00:28:29,276 --> 00:28:32,148 to be killed or captured in large numbers. 274 00:28:32,183 --> 00:28:36,069 After 1968, the war was increasingly 275 00:28:36,104 --> 00:28:39,815 fought by North Vietnamese as a conventional conflict. 276 00:28:39,850 --> 00:28:43,236 The political goal of forcing President Thieu 277 00:28:43,236 --> 00:28:46,122 to accept a coalition government also failed. 278 00:28:46,312 --> 00:28:52,814 What they have realized in the city that the people was against them. 279 00:28:52,849 --> 00:28:58,327 So I believe that the general uprising that they had hoped have not happened. 280 00:28:58,362 --> 00:29:03,376 They have met with the anti-Communist sentiment from the people in the city, 281 00:29:03,411 --> 00:29:06,672 so they failed in both countryside and city. 282 00:29:06,707 --> 00:29:10,573 But even though it was a considerable military set-back 283 00:29:10,608 --> 00:29:15,872 for the North Vietnamese and Vietcong out there on the ground, 284 00:29:15,907 --> 00:29:20,820 it was,in effect,a brilliant political victory for them here in the United States. 285 00:29:20,855 --> 00:29:27,268 I'm not sure I fully understand the reasons why that should have occurred, 286 00:29:27,303 --> 00:29:32,856 but it became very clear after the Tet offensive 287 00:29:32,891 --> 00:29:39,213 that many people at the grass roots,such as my cousins in Cherokee County, 288 00:29:39,248 --> 00:29:43,150 finally came to the conclusion that if we could not tell them 289 00:29:43,185 --> 00:29:47,093 when this war was going to end, and we couldn't in any good faith, 290 00:29:47,128 --> 00:29:49,606 that we might as well chuck it. 291 00:29:49,641 --> 00:29:55,349 The Tet offensive came as a brutal surprise to President Johnson 292 00:29:55,384 --> 00:29:56,755 and all of his advisers. 293 00:29:56,790 --> 00:30:01,788 We had been led to believe that the Vietcong 294 00:30:01,823 --> 00:30:08,620 were pretty well defanged by that period, 295 00:30:08,655 --> 00:30:13,901 that the pacification program had worked very well, 296 00:30:13,936 --> 00:30:19,184 that most of the villages in South Vietnam were secure 297 00:30:19,219 --> 00:30:22,772 and that it was virtually impossible for the Vietcong 298 00:30:22,807 --> 00:30:27,404 to rise to the heights that they did in 1968. 299 00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:36,726 The shock of the Tet attacks forced Johnson, the commander-in-chief, 300 00:30:36,761 --> 00:30:38,683 to seek refuge in the military. 301 00:30:42,963 --> 00:30:46,068 Johnson, the president, said nothing to the nation. 302 00:30:49,203 --> 00:30:54,628 Tet had crystallized the dilemma of the war.Johnson wanted victory. 303 00:30:54,663 --> 00:30:58,535 But his enemy, though rebuffed, was still not defeated. 304 00:30:58,570 --> 00:31:03,540 Could he win now without expanding the war and committing more troops? 305 00:31:03,575 --> 00:31:09,225 At the time of the Tet offensive, I asked for only those troops 306 00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:15,067 that were on the way to me anyway, that had been promised, 307 00:31:15,102 --> 00:31:20,086 and had been organized.And I asked that they be accelerated. 308 00:31:20,121 --> 00:31:26,348 Johnson approved this request and sent off an airborne unit. 309 00:31:26,383 --> 00:31:32,068 But by now, Vietnam was draining America's overall military force. 310 00:31:32,103 --> 00:31:36,924 Johnson's generals pressed him to take a step he had always resisted: 311 00:31:36,959 --> 00:31:41,621 to call up the reserves, to gird the nation for a bigger war. 312 00:31:43,766 --> 00:31:46,212 Mr. Johnson then sent a message, 313 00:31:46,247 --> 00:31:49,208 "If you need further reinforcements, please call for them." 314 00:31:49,243 --> 00:31:54,938 I took no steps in that regard, until General Wheeler came over. 315 00:31:54,973 --> 00:31:57,321 He was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. 316 00:31:57,356 --> 00:32:00,612 And Wheeler told me that it was a good prospect 317 00:32:00,647 --> 00:32:04,057 that the reserves would be mobilized,that the strategy would be changed. 318 00:32:04,092 --> 00:32:06,302 And if reserves are mobilized and 319 00:32:06,337 --> 00:32:10,901 our strategy was changed to be an offensive strategy 320 00:32:10,936 --> 00:32:14,638 that would break down some of the geo-graphical barriers of Laos and Cambodia 321 00:32:14,673 --> 00:32:18,711 and allow us to take the war to the enemy in a more effective way 322 00:32:18,746 --> 00:32:20,236 through the bombing campaign -- 323 00:32:20,271 --> 00:32:24,161 what would I want to bring the war to an end? 324 00:32:24,196 --> 00:32:29,678 It was in the context, then, of a contingency plan 325 00:32:29,713 --> 00:32:34,311 based on an assumption of a decision. And it was not request per se. 326 00:32:34,346 --> 00:32:40,801 But it was presented as Westmoreland's request for 206,000 troops for Vietnam. 327 00:32:40,836 --> 00:32:44,855 General Earle Wheeler said they were needed to stop another attack. 328 00:32:44,890 --> 00:32:48,736 In fact, Wheeler planned to keep half the troops at home 329 00:32:48,771 --> 00:32:51,034 to replenish the depleted reserves. 330 00:32:51,069 --> 00:32:55,422 Another adviser wanted to use the troops to invade North Vietnam. 331 00:32:55,457 --> 00:32:58,746 I thought that the extra troops would be justified, 332 00:32:58,781 --> 00:33:06,139 only if we used them in a very active policy to force an end to the war 333 00:33:06,174 --> 00:33:10,817 on the ground, through putting forces into North Vietnam as far north as Vien, 334 00:33:10,852 --> 00:33:16,593 and blocking off on the ground with U.S. forces the multiple trails in Laos. 335 00:33:16,628 --> 00:33:21,332 Johnson turned the troop request over to Clark Clifford, 336 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:25,034 his new secretary of defense,a trusted adviser 337 00:33:25,069 --> 00:33:27,621 and supporter of the war from the beginning. 338 00:33:27,656 --> 00:33:32,877 President Johnson appointed a task force as soon as 339 00:33:32,912 --> 00:33:36,439 I went into the Pentagon and named me chairman of the task force. 340 00:33:36,474 --> 00:33:40,660 The reason was that the military had specifically requested 341 00:33:40,695 --> 00:33:45,175 206,000 more troops to be sent to Vietnam. 342 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:49,001 He wanted that analyzed, he wanted us to determine 343 00:33:49,036 --> 00:33:51,432 how the troops could be gathered and sent, 344 00:33:51,467 --> 00:33:56,565 what the social, political, economic impact might be on the United States. 345 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:02,721 The troop request came at a time when Johnson was concerned about Khesanh, 346 00:34:02,756 --> 00:34:05,734 where the Marine garrison was still besieged. 347 00:34:18,489 --> 00:34:23,803 Johnson believed the North Vietnamese still planned a major assault against Khesanh. 348 00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:49,908 The Marines, surrounded and outnumbered, were enduring deadly artillery barrages 349 00:34:50,424 --> 00:34:53,308 as they waited for the North Vietnamese to storm the base. 350 00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:17,711 Now to meet the needs of these fighting men, we shall do whatever is required. 351 00:35:17,746 --> 00:35:20,477 Make no mistake about it. 352 00:35:20,512 --> 00:35:27,405 I don't want a man in here to go back home thinking otherwise. 353 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,352 We are going to win! 354 00:35:37,606 --> 00:35:40,561 Johnson did meet the needs of his men at Khesanh. 355 00:35:43,366 --> 00:35:47,930 He unleashed the Air Force against the North Vietnamese encircling the base 356 00:35:47,965 --> 00:35:52,016 in one of the most intensive bombing campaigns in history. 357 00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:17,888 By early March, 358 00:36:17,923 --> 00:36:21,127 assured that Khesanh was safe and the Tet offensive repelled, 359 00:36:21,162 --> 00:36:25,890 Johnson quietly shelved the request for 206,000 troops. 360 00:36:28,556 --> 00:36:33,700 But the troop request had deeply influenced his new secretary of defense. 361 00:36:33,735 --> 00:36:38,901 I know for three full days I spent down in the tank 362 00:36:38,936 --> 00:36:40,851 with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 363 00:36:40,886 --> 00:36:46,258 where you sit with all of the communications devices that go all over the world. 364 00:36:46,293 --> 00:36:50,285 We had long talks. How long would it take? They didn't know. 365 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,923 How many more troops would it take? They didn't know. 366 00:36:52,958 --> 00:36:57,537 Would 206,000 answer the demand? They didn't know. 367 00:36:57,572 --> 00:37:00,025 Might there be more? Yes, there might be more. 368 00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:04,741 So, when it was all over, I said, "What is the plan to win the war in Vietnam?" 369 00:37:04,776 --> 00:37:09,049 Well, the only plan is that ultimately the attrition will 370 00:37:09,084 --> 00:37:12,340 wear down the North Vietnamese and they will have had enough. 371 00:37:12,375 --> 00:37:15,399 Is there any indication that we've reached that point? No, there isn't. 372 00:37:15,434 --> 00:37:20,103 As a result of that kind of interview, and that kind of information, 373 00:37:20,138 --> 00:37:25,770 before the final examination was over and we submitted our reports 374 00:37:25,805 --> 00:37:29,439 to President Johnson, I had turned against the war. 375 00:37:29,474 --> 00:37:34,003 Well, we don't plan to surrender either, and we don't plan to pull out either, 376 00:37:34,038 --> 00:37:38,760 and we don't plan to let people influence us,and pressure 377 00:37:38,795 --> 00:37:42,962 and force us to divide our nation in a time of national peril. 378 00:37:42,997 --> 00:37:45,753 The hour is here! 379 00:37:45,788 --> 00:37:52,549 I then decided that what I must do would be to get all of the strength 380 00:37:52,584 --> 00:37:54,982 that I could, because the mere fact that 381 00:37:55,017 --> 00:37:57,824 I had reached the conclusion was not very significant, 382 00:37:57,859 --> 00:38:01,033 because the decision really lay with President Johnson. 383 00:38:01,068 --> 00:38:06,503 Clifford said, "I noticed you this afternoon at the State Department 384 00:38:06,538 --> 00:38:09,740 and it seems to me you and I are on the same side. 385 00:38:09,775 --> 00:38:13,342 And I think we should form a partnership. 386 00:38:13,377 --> 00:38:16,592 You should be the partner in the White House 387 00:38:16,627 --> 00:38:18,599 and I'll be the partner in the Pentagon. 388 00:38:18,634 --> 00:38:22,219 You tell me what goes on over there that you hear, 389 00:38:22,254 --> 00:38:25,120 and I'll tell you what happens over here, 390 00:38:25,155 --> 00:38:31,653 and together we'll get this country and our president out of this mess." 391 00:38:31,688 --> 00:38:36,329 Harry was our "Secret Dove," Harry was very close to the President. 392 00:38:36,364 --> 00:38:39,038 Harry and I were close; 393 00:38:39,073 --> 00:38:41,095 Harry was close to other members of the White House staff. 394 00:38:41,130 --> 00:38:43,376 We began to develop a group, 395 00:38:43,411 --> 00:38:47,665 and I know that after a while the question would be very secretly, 396 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:52,783 "Is he with us?" That means, Is he a part of this group 397 00:38:52,818 --> 00:38:59,673 that is organized and dedicated to changing Lyndon Johnson's mind? 398 00:38:59,708 --> 00:39:04,436 It was almost like some very similar expression used in the French Revolution, 399 00:39:04,471 --> 00:39:06,455 "Is he with us?" 400 00:39:06,490 --> 00:39:11,597 Without his having to say so, getting us out of this mess did not mean 401 00:39:11,632 --> 00:39:16,519 putting in another two or 300,000 men in order to beat North Vietnam, 402 00:39:16,554 --> 00:39:23,693 the Vietcong; it meant to begin the process of de-escalation, 403 00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:29,473 as it was called -- disengagement of the United States. I was exhilarated. 404 00:39:29,508 --> 00:39:33,062 On March 10, The New York Times revealed 405 00:39:33,097 --> 00:39:35,913 the Pentagon's request for additional troops. 406 00:39:35,948 --> 00:39:39,463 The request had been a closely guarded secret. 407 00:39:39,498 --> 00:39:44,872 The disclosure stunned members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 408 00:39:44,907 --> 00:39:47,447 then holding hearings on Vietnam. 409 00:39:47,482 --> 00:39:54,304 Secretary of State Dean Rusk was grilled on live television for two days. 410 00:39:54,339 --> 00:39:59,362 There is incipient uprising in this country in opposition to this war 411 00:39:59,397 --> 00:40:00,599 and it's going to get worse. 412 00:40:00,634 --> 00:40:04,815 This talk about sending over 100,000, 200,000 more troops, 413 00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:08,247 you're going to create a very serious difficulty in this country 414 00:40:08,282 --> 00:40:10,384 if you people in the administration go through with that. 415 00:40:10,419 --> 00:40:14,378 Now, Mr. Secretary, for some years we have been bombing the North. 416 00:40:14,413 --> 00:40:18,442 As I understand it, this bombing of the North had three purposes: 417 00:40:18,477 --> 00:40:21,475 one, to hurt North Vietnam. That's been done. 418 00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:26,674 Secondly, to stop the infiltration of men down across the parallel 419 00:40:26,709 --> 00:40:29,967 and the Ho Chi Minh trails. Has that been done? 420 00:40:30,002 --> 00:40:34,347 It has not been stopped completely, Senator. 421 00:40:34,382 --> 00:40:38,329 We never supposed that it could stop it completely,but we do know 422 00:40:38,364 --> 00:40:44,100 that it has had some major impact upon the capacity of the other side 423 00:40:44,135 --> 00:40:49,641 to carry out this infiltration and has cost them very heavily. 424 00:40:49,676 --> 00:40:55,644 The rate of infiltration in 1965 was about 1,500 a month. 425 00:40:55,679 --> 00:41:03,281 In 1966 about 4,500 a month. In 1967 between 5,500 and 6,000 a month. 426 00:41:03,316 --> 00:41:07,338 And in 1968, it's my understanding that in January, 427 00:41:07,373 --> 00:41:11,639 20,000 men came down from North Vietnam into South Vietnam. 428 00:41:11,674 --> 00:41:13,886 Is that a correct figure or a correct estimate? 429 00:41:13,921 --> 00:41:16,858 I would accept those as approximately correct, Sir. 430 00:41:16,893 --> 00:41:22,421 Then, the third factor -- in addition to hurt, reducing infiltration -- 431 00:41:22,456 --> 00:41:27,132 the third factor was to bring Hanoi to the conference table. 432 00:41:27,167 --> 00:41:29,674 Are they any closer to the conference table now 433 00:41:29,709 --> 00:41:31,606 than they were when the bombing began? 434 00:41:31,641 --> 00:41:36,679 We have seen no evidence that they are prepared to undertake 435 00:41:36,714 --> 00:41:40,142 serious discussions toward a peaceful settlement of this situation. 436 00:41:40,177 --> 00:41:44,171 Senators Morse and Mansfield had long opposed the war. 437 00:41:44,206 --> 00:41:48,413 But after Tet, supporters like Senator Karl Mundt 438 00:41:48,448 --> 00:41:51,486 of South Dakota began to abandon Johnson. 439 00:41:51,521 --> 00:41:54,855 As one who has consistently supported the decision of the administration 440 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:58,372 to stay on and press on with this war, 441 00:41:58,407 --> 00:42:02,762 I am totally and sorrowfully disappointed by your answer. 442 00:42:02,797 --> 00:42:06,709 And I think this is one of the great causes for dissension in this country. 443 00:42:06,744 --> 00:42:12,700 Now Congress wanted a change -- either victory or withdrawal. 444 00:42:12,735 --> 00:42:15,709 Congress, also concerned about the cost of the war, 445 00:42:15,744 --> 00:42:18,534 forced Johnson to trim his domestic programs. 446 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:27,456 He could not spend more on a limited war, and he feared an expanded war. 447 00:42:27,491 --> 00:42:30,826 Johnson's greatest fear, as he once put it, 448 00:42:30,861 --> 00:42:36,783 was that an American pilot was going to miss his target in Hanoi 449 00:42:36,818 --> 00:42:40,121 or Haiphong harbor and put a bomb down the smoke stack of 450 00:42:40,129 --> 00:42:44,057 a Russian freighter with the Russian minister on board 451 00:42:44,092 --> 00:42:47,443 and that the pilot would be from Johnson City, Texas. 452 00:42:47,478 --> 00:42:53,533 He was, he was extremely disturbed that we might provoke the Russians, 453 00:42:53,568 --> 00:42:58,497 or earlier the Chinese, into coming to the aid of Vietnam. 454 00:42:58,532 --> 00:43:01,995 And that was one of the, that was one of the tremendous dilemmas 455 00:43:02,030 --> 00:43:05,342 he had throughout the war when a great many Americans 456 00:43:05,377 --> 00:43:09,006 wanted the United States to go ahead and finish it off. 457 00:43:09,041 --> 00:43:13,353 Johnson also had to consider the war at home. 458 00:43:13,388 --> 00:43:17,435 Until then, he had dismissed street demonstrations. 459 00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:21,674 But 1968 was a presidential election year, 460 00:43:21,709 --> 00:43:26,732 and out of the growing anti-war sentiment, there emerged a peace candidate, 461 00:43:26,767 --> 00:43:30,435 thrust into prominence by the shock of the Tet offensive. 462 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:36,743 I am a candidate for the nomination of the presidency on the Democratic ticket. 463 00:43:36,778 --> 00:43:42,092 And I run for that office against an incumbent leader of our party, 464 00:43:42,127 --> 00:43:46,933 because I believe as I find many people in this country do believe now, 465 00:43:46,968 --> 00:43:50,388 and have for the last five or six months, 466 00:43:50,423 --> 00:43:55,517 that we are involved in a very deep crisis of leadership, 467 00:43:55,552 --> 00:43:59,177 a crisis of direction and a crisis of national purpose. 468 00:43:59,212 --> 00:44:03,542 The entire history of this war in Vietnam -- no matter what we call it 469 00:44:03,577 --> 00:44:08,336 has been one of continued error and of misjudgment. 470 00:44:08,371 --> 00:44:12,904 Senator Eugene McCarthy nearly beat Johnson in the New Hampshire primary, 471 00:44:12,939 --> 00:44:15,621 and the close vote jolted Johnson. 472 00:44:17,677 --> 00:44:20,195 At the time, it looked like a vote for peace. 473 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:23,653 In fact, it was a vote against Johnson's conduct of the war. 474 00:44:23,688 --> 00:44:27,577 Many New Hampshire voters felt that he wasn't being tough enough. 475 00:44:27,612 --> 00:44:30,952 They favored getting out of a war he refused to win. 476 00:44:30,987 --> 00:44:36,850 Johnson was further rattled when Robert Kennedy joined the presidential race. 477 00:44:36,885 --> 00:44:40,247 The glamorous Kennedys had always worried him. 478 00:44:40,282 --> 00:44:42,916 Robert had switched to a peace platform, 479 00:44:42,951 --> 00:44:46,226 and Johnson smelled defeat in Wisconsin, the next primary. 480 00:44:46,261 --> 00:44:49,813 The faraway war was taking its toll at home. 481 00:44:51,562 --> 00:44:56,375 Johnson turned to a group of elder statesmen called the "wise men." 482 00:44:56,410 --> 00:45:00,222 They had consistently backed his war policies. 483 00:45:00,257 --> 00:45:03,298 He convened them on March 25. 484 00:45:03,333 --> 00:45:08,588 They included establishment figures like former Secretary of State Dean Acheson, 485 00:45:08,623 --> 00:45:12,170 former Ambassador to Vietnam Maxwell Taylor, 486 00:45:12,205 --> 00:45:16,154 and former National Security Adviser McGeorge Bundy. 487 00:45:16,189 --> 00:45:23,039 And our recommendation on the whole--not without dissent and disagreement 488 00:45:23,074 --> 00:45:31,086 was that there should not be an increase in force levels in South Vietnam, 489 00:45:31,121 --> 00:45:37,895 and that there should be a modification of the policy of bombing North Vietnam. 490 00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:42,662 Now here was a group saying, Mr. President, stop trying to win the war. 491 00:45:42,697 --> 00:45:46,220 Start cutting back. Don't send any more men. 492 00:45:46,255 --> 00:45:50,895 We think you ought to get out. It was a very bitter pill for him. 493 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,680 I think he had himself decided really, 494 00:45:57,715 --> 00:46:01,291 that he would not do the ground force reinforcement, 495 00:46:01,326 --> 00:46:08,982 so it was more our gloominess in a way than our specific recommendations 496 00:46:09,017 --> 00:46:11,151 that he may have found troubling. 497 00:46:11,186 --> 00:46:13,539 To meet price increases... 498 00:46:13,574 --> 00:46:17,429 On the afternoon of March 31, after two months of indecision, 499 00:46:17,464 --> 00:46:22,308 Johnson rehearsed an address to the nation scheduled for that evening. 500 00:46:22,343 --> 00:46:23,985 ...the estimate of those additional expenditures is, 501 00:46:24,020 --> 00:46:32,449 so get Clifford in to see what figures...this fiscal year... 502 00:46:32,484 --> 00:46:35,455 well you're going to have to get him in the next hour so you can mimeograph 503 00:46:35,490 --> 00:46:38,081 because George is going to want them, in that fiscal year. 504 00:46:38,116 --> 00:46:43,737 As late as March 28 his aides were still divided on Vietnam policy. 505 00:46:43,772 --> 00:46:49,057 It was a strong "we will be in there, we will be fighting, 506 00:46:49,092 --> 00:46:54,134 they will not drive us out, we will save Vietnam" speech. 507 00:46:54,169 --> 00:46:59,513 There was a meeting in Secretary Rusk's office. Rusk, Clifford, 508 00:46:59,548 --> 00:47:04,495 Bill Bundy, the assistant secretary for the Far East, Rostow and me. 509 00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:08,314 Clifford said, "The speech is a disaster." 510 00:47:08,349 --> 00:47:14,060 I thought the draft was dreadful. I thought that it was harsh. 511 00:47:14,095 --> 00:47:18,924 I thought that it talked about the continuation of the war. 512 00:47:18,959 --> 00:47:23,636 It talked about Tet, how Tet could be resolved. 513 00:47:23,671 --> 00:47:31,182 There was some suggestion about sending some of the men, not the whole 206,000. 514 00:47:31,183 --> 00:47:36,960 To me, it needed much changing and much amendment. 515 00:47:36,995 --> 00:47:39,680 The really, the really surprising thing was that Rusk and Rostow 516 00:47:39,715 --> 00:47:45,281 did not fight Clifford on that, but began to speak as if, all right, 517 00:47:45,316 --> 00:47:48,995 let's, what do we have to put in line to write a different kind of speech? 518 00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:53,698 I went back and wrote a different speech -- a very different speech. 519 00:47:53,733 --> 00:47:55,059 As a quick illustration, 520 00:47:55,094 --> 00:47:59,560 the first few sentences of that speech in the original draft said, 521 00:47:59,595 --> 00:48:04,816 "I wish to talk about the war in Vietnam." That was the first sentence. 522 00:48:04,851 --> 00:48:07,578 By the time the speech was written and rewritten 523 00:48:07,613 --> 00:48:11,933 -- we worked days on it before it was given -- the first sentence read: 524 00:48:11,968 --> 00:48:14,388 Good evening, my fellow Americans. 525 00:48:14,423 --> 00:48:21,329 Tonight I want to speak to you of peace in Vietnam and Southeast Asia. 526 00:48:21,364 --> 00:48:26,903 And that speech was almost a complete reversal of 527 00:48:26,938 --> 00:48:28,749 what the speech started out to be. 528 00:48:28,784 --> 00:48:32,203 Tonight, I have ordered our aircraft and our naval vessels 529 00:48:32,238 --> 00:48:34,361 to make no attacks on North Vietnam, 530 00:48:34,396 --> 00:48:39,271 except in the area north of the demilitarized zone 531 00:48:39,306 --> 00:48:45,584 where the continuing enemy buildup directly threatens allied forward positions 532 00:48:45,619 --> 00:48:49,187 and where the movement of their troops 533 00:48:49,222 --> 00:48:54,077 and supplies are clearly related to that threat. 534 00:48:54,112 --> 00:48:59,627 I had cut off the peroration, the ending of that speech, 535 00:48:59,662 --> 00:49:03,349 which was a kind of McPherson effort to write Churchillian. 536 00:49:03,384 --> 00:49:07,607 It had been on every draft of every speech from the beginning. 537 00:49:07,642 --> 00:49:11,154 Clifford called me just before we met on that Saturday and said, 538 00:49:11,189 --> 00:49:14,068 "You know that peroration doesn't belong there anymore. 539 00:49:14,103 --> 00:49:18,511 The speech has changed.You can't make the kind of speech we've now got 540 00:49:18,546 --> 00:49:22,345 and then end it with the sort of 'we will fight them in the... 541 00:49:22,380 --> 00:49:28,839 lanes and the villages and the beaches' language that is in that peroration." 542 00:49:28,874 --> 00:49:32,516 So I just cut it off. I didn't have time to write a new one. 543 00:49:32,551 --> 00:49:35,578 Johnson asked me, "Where was it? I liked that." 544 00:49:35,613 --> 00:49:39,821 And I said, "Well, I didn't like it, it doesn't really fit with the speech. 545 00:49:39,856 --> 00:49:41,483 I'll go upstairs and write a new one. 546 00:49:41,518 --> 00:49:44,847 And I'll make it short because the speech is already a very long one." 547 00:49:44,882 --> 00:49:48,325 He said, "You don't need to worry about time. 548 00:49:48,343 --> 00:49:50,726 I may have a little ending of my own." 549 00:49:50,761 --> 00:49:54,993 And he walked out of the room leaving me and Clifford. 550 00:49:55,028 --> 00:49:57,274 I turned around to Clifford and said, 551 00:49:57,309 --> 00:50:01,457 "Good Lord,is he going to say 'sayonara', is he going to quit?" 552 00:50:01,492 --> 00:50:05,871 And Clifford looked at me as if I were out of my mind. 553 00:50:05,906 --> 00:50:09,317 We'd all assumed of course that he would run. 554 00:50:09,352 --> 00:50:12,031 He loved the job. He reveled in it. 555 00:50:12,066 --> 00:50:14,956 About five in the afternoon I got back to my office 556 00:50:14,991 --> 00:50:19,783 and Johnson called me and asked me what I thought about the speech 557 00:50:19,818 --> 00:50:23,024 that he was about to deliver in two or three hours. 558 00:50:23,059 --> 00:50:27,140 And I said I thought it was pretty good -- I was really proud and glad 559 00:50:27,175 --> 00:50:30,319 that we had turned, changed the speech. 560 00:50:30,354 --> 00:50:34,503 He said, "I've got an ending." I said, "I've heard that." 561 00:50:34,538 --> 00:50:37,868 He said, "Do you know what's in it?" I said, "I think so." 562 00:50:37,903 --> 00:50:40,754 He said, "What do you think about it?" 563 00:50:40,789 --> 00:50:44,761 And I said, "I'm very sorry, Mr. President." 564 00:50:44,796 --> 00:50:49,712 And he said, "Okay. So long pardner." 565 00:50:51,784 --> 00:50:56,131 With America's sons in the fields far away, 566 00:50:56,166 --> 00:51:02,676 with America's future under challenge right here at home, 567 00:51:02,711 --> 00:51:09,924 with our hopes and the world's hopes for peace in the balance every day, 568 00:51:09,959 --> 00:51:16,782 I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of my time 569 00:51:16,817 --> 00:51:22,772 to any personal partisan causes or to any duties 570 00:51:22,807 --> 00:51:33,222 other than the awesome duties of this office--the presidency of your country. 571 00:51:33,257 --> 00:51:41,707 Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, 572 00:51:41,742 --> 00:51:46,647 the nomination of my party for another term as your president. 573 00:51:48,655 --> 00:51:53,495 As promptly as possible after he spoke, I had a press conference 574 00:51:53,530 --> 00:52:00,166 and announced formally that the 206,000 troops were not to be sent. 575 00:52:00,201 --> 00:52:06,491 This is part and parcel, I believe, of the President's decision to place a limitation 576 00:52:06,526 --> 00:52:13,274 at this time upon our troop level at a point not exceeding 550,000. 577 00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:18,756 It seemed appropriate that it should be said -- if that's what he meant 578 00:52:18,791 --> 00:52:21,467 and I assumed that that was what he meant 579 00:52:21,502 --> 00:52:24,456 from the tone of his speech on March the 31. 580 00:52:24,457 --> 00:52:27,548 There were still those who very much wanted to 581 00:52:27,583 --> 00:52:33,011 the military still thought the matter was hanging fire. That ended it. 582 00:52:33,046 --> 00:52:35,177 After that statement was made publicly, 583 00:52:35,212 --> 00:52:38,887 there was no further comment about the 206,000 troops. 584 00:52:44,570 --> 00:52:47,192 The Tet offensive had a further impact. 585 00:52:47,227 --> 00:52:50,483 In mid-May, North Vietnamese diplomats 586 00:52:50,518 --> 00:52:54,027 arrived in Paris to talk for the first time. 587 00:52:54,062 --> 00:52:59,127 That week the Vietcong launched a new offensive. 588 00:53:05,952 --> 00:53:12,810 Americans fought on, for the same objective: an independent South Vietnam. 589 00:53:17,533 --> 00:53:21,125 But after Tet the strategy changed. 590 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:27,411 There were peace talks and the slow withdrawal of American troops. 591 00:53:27,446 --> 00:53:33,186 The talking and fighting went on for the next five years. 56788

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