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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:07,530 Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, 2 00:02:07,565 --> 00:02:16,614 that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, 3 00:02:16,649 --> 00:02:21,665 support any friend, oppose any foe, 4 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:26,255 to assure the survival and the success of liberty... 5 00:02:37,192 --> 00:02:42,375 These people who say that we ought to withdraw from Vietnam are wholly wrong, 6 00:02:42,410 --> 00:02:45,816 because if we withdrew from Vietnam, the Communists would control Vietnam. 7 00:02:45,851 --> 00:02:51,208 Pretty soon Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Malaya would go, 8 00:02:51,243 --> 00:02:53,918 and all of Southeast Asia would be under the control of the Communists 9 00:02:53,953 --> 00:02:55,917 and under the domination of the Chinese... 10 00:03:01,029 --> 00:03:06,498 If this little nation goes down the drain and can't maintain her independence, 11 00:03:06,533 --> 00:03:10,069 ask yourself, what's going to happen to all the other little nations? 12 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:29,504 This is Roger 26 receiving fire 9:00, yellow smoke, 13 00:03:29,539 --> 00:03:33,087 200 meters, automatic weapons, over.This is 21... 14 00:03:33,088 --> 00:03:35,981 Lyndon Johnson inherited America's commitment to 15 00:03:36,016 --> 00:03:42,002 an anti-Communist government in South Vietnam, and 16,000 military advisers. 16 00:03:42,037 --> 00:03:45,254 Some were more than advisers in the war against 17 00:03:45,289 --> 00:03:47,991 the Communist-led insurgents, the Vietcong. 18 00:03:48,026 --> 00:03:52,560 Tigerlee, Tigerlee, Tiger 6, Tiger 6 .This is 26. 19 00:03:52,595 --> 00:03:54,883 This is 26. We have some people running along the dikes. 20 00:03:54,918 --> 00:03:59,601 Actually the canal is perpendicular to the one you're attacking now. 21 00:03:59,636 --> 00:04:03,472 They have on black uniforms, estimate approximately three zero. 22 00:04:03,507 --> 00:04:05,058 Do you have them in sight? Over. 23 00:04:05,093 --> 00:04:07,485 This is 23. Roger. We have them in sight. 24 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,958 We are engaging them at the present time.Roger. 25 00:04:09,993 --> 00:04:14,968 Good job. I saw you splatter one right in the back with a rocket. 26 00:04:15,003 --> 00:04:16,257 Roger. Got lucky I guess. 27 00:04:18,769 --> 00:04:23,396 Johnson's main concern at the time was not this growing war in Asia, 28 00:04:23,431 --> 00:04:26,209 but another war at home. 29 00:04:26,244 --> 00:04:33,871 And this administration today, here and now, 30 00:04:33,906 --> 00:04:39,859 declares unconditional war on poverty in America. 31 00:04:39,894 --> 00:04:43,855 Few American presidents have been as successful as Johnson 32 00:04:43,890 --> 00:04:46,104 in promoting their programs in Congress. 33 00:04:46,139 --> 00:04:49,791 He later called his "The Great Society." 34 00:04:49,826 --> 00:04:57,152 We are going to build a great society, 35 00:04:57,187 --> 00:05:08,105 where no man or woman are the victim of fear or poverty or hatred. 36 00:05:08,140 --> 00:05:12,502 Where every man and woman has a chance 37 00:05:12,537 --> 00:05:17,805 for fulfillment and prosperity and hope. 38 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,844 But there was Vietnam. 39 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:25,484 As Johnson took office, peasants,often helped by the Vietcong, 40 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:30,040 destroyed the strategic hamlets designed to isolate them from the Vietcong. 41 00:05:30,075 --> 00:05:36,268 President Diem had built them, but now Diem was dead. 42 00:05:36,303 --> 00:05:40,359 And the structure he had created with American support was being smashed. 43 00:05:46,376 --> 00:05:50,136 General Minh had ousted Diem with American approval. 44 00:05:50,171 --> 00:05:52,471 He lasted three months. 45 00:05:52,506 --> 00:05:57,337 General Khanh, with American blessing, took over in a bloodless coup. 46 00:05:57,372 --> 00:06:00,980 The political turmoil deepened. 47 00:06:04,203 --> 00:06:09,813 President Johnson offered America's full support to this new, untried leader. 48 00:06:09,848 --> 00:06:15,122 Good morning ladies and gentlemen.General Taylor and I 49 00:06:15,157 --> 00:06:19,830 have known General Khanh for a considerable period of time. 50 00:06:19,865 --> 00:06:28,121 He has our admiration, our respect and our complete support. 51 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:35,412 McNamara barnstormed South Vietnam with Khanh, 52 00:06:35,447 --> 00:06:37,669 trying to promote him to his own people. 53 00:06:37,704 --> 00:06:40,400 Privately McNamara was gloomy. 54 00:06:40,435 --> 00:06:45,017 He warned Johnson that the Vietcong controlled 40 percent of the countryside. 55 00:06:45,052 --> 00:06:49,116 We are here to emphasize that the United States 56 00:06:49,151 --> 00:06:53,508 will maintain its interest and its presence in your country. 57 00:06:53,543 --> 00:06:59,423 There is no question whatsoever of our abandoning that interest. 58 00:06:59,458 --> 00:07:03,424 We'll stay for as long as it takes. 59 00:07:03,459 --> 00:07:07,463 We shall provide whatever help is required 60 00:07:07,498 --> 00:07:11,269 to win the battle against the Communist insurgents. 61 00:07:11,304 --> 00:07:13,365 To the Communists in Hanoi, 62 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,642 America's presence in the South was yet another act of foreign aggression. 63 00:07:17,677 --> 00:07:22,161 They recalled 1,000 years of struggle against foreign invaders: 64 00:07:22,196 --> 00:07:28,828 Chinese, Japanese, French. And now they faced Americans. 65 00:07:28,863 --> 00:07:34,294 Ho Chi Minh stepped up his support for the Vietcong at the same time 66 00:07:34,329 --> 00:07:37,274 Johnson renewed the American commitment to defeat them. 67 00:07:37,309 --> 00:07:41,991 Each responded to the chaos in the South with new resolve. 68 00:07:42,026 --> 00:07:51,796 During the final months of 1963, Diem was shot and Kennedy was assassinated. 69 00:07:51,831 --> 00:07:57,465 So the situation in the South changed. 70 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:03,653 Just at that time, President Ho Chi Minh called on all Vietnamese 71 00:08:03,688 --> 00:08:07,240 to double their efforts to help the people in the South. 72 00:08:07,275 --> 00:08:13,695 The resistance forces in the South were still very weak and badly equipped. 73 00:08:13,730 --> 00:08:17,478 In certain areas, they had trouble recruiting troops. 74 00:08:21,414 --> 00:08:25,940 Therefore, we decided that well-equipped and larger forces 75 00:08:25,975 --> 00:08:27,777 had to be sent to the South. 76 00:08:30,845 --> 00:08:33,678 Hanoi decided to escalate the war. 77 00:08:33,713 --> 00:08:37,781 And the Vietcong stepped up their attacks in the countryside. 78 00:08:43,207 --> 00:08:50,239 When Lyndon Johnson inherited the presidency, he inherited many things, 79 00:08:50,274 --> 00:08:53,096 but one of them was the legacy of the Vietnam War 80 00:08:53,131 --> 00:08:59,376 and the Democratic president's felt-need not to lose 81 00:08:59,411 --> 00:09:04,388 one square foot of territory to communism, particularly in Asia. 82 00:09:04,423 --> 00:09:10,828 To draw the line, to hold the line and to keep the presidency thereby, 83 00:09:10,863 --> 00:09:15,665 because if you lose, the final domino in the domino sequence 84 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:18,993 is not some Asian country, it's the presidency itself. 85 00:09:23,848 --> 00:09:27,554 In 1964 the pressure on Johnson to hold the line 86 00:09:27,589 --> 00:09:30,828 against communism came from Republican conservatives. 87 00:09:30,863 --> 00:09:34,517 In July they nominated Senator Barry Goldwater for president. 88 00:09:34,552 --> 00:09:37,364 He was an outspoken anti-Communist. 89 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:47,178 I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice... 90 00:09:51,386 --> 00:09:53,622 Johnson wanted a big victory. 91 00:09:53,918 --> 00:09:56,693 And he wanted to keep Vietnam out of the campaign. 92 00:09:56,728 --> 00:10:00,286 As early as May he had his aides draft a resolution of 93 00:10:00,321 --> 00:10:02,568 Congressional support for the war effort. 94 00:10:02,603 --> 00:10:06,120 It was discovered, however, in researching the Senate 95 00:10:06,155 --> 00:10:13,435 that the introduction of such a resolution would cause a very major filibuster 96 00:10:13,470 --> 00:10:16,972 by two or three strong opponents of the war at the time and, 97 00:10:17,007 --> 00:10:21,322 therefore,do more harm than good, create not consensus but conflict. 98 00:10:21,357 --> 00:10:29,036 Therefore, by June 15, 1964, the idea of a resolution had been shelved. 99 00:10:29,071 --> 00:10:34,262 In late July, the U.S.S. Maddox, a destroyer on an intelligence mission, 100 00:10:34,297 --> 00:10:37,546 sailed into the Gulf of Tonkin off North Vietnam. 101 00:10:40,301 --> 00:10:43,601 It was later joined by the U.S.S. Turner Joy. 102 00:10:43,636 --> 00:10:47,176 These two destroyers became involved in an incident 103 00:10:47,211 --> 00:10:50,341 which brought the Congressional resolution off the shelf. 104 00:10:50,376 --> 00:10:54,468 The Navy explained the incident this way: 105 00:10:56,105 --> 00:11:01,269 In international waters in the Gulf of Tonkin, destroyers of 106 00:11:01,304 --> 00:11:05,141 the United States Navy are assigned routine patrols from time to time. 107 00:11:05,176 --> 00:11:11,006 Sunday, August the 2, 1964, the destroyer Maddox was on such a patrol. 108 00:11:11,041 --> 00:11:16,135 Shortly after noon, the calm of the day is broken as general quarters sound. 109 00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:25,191 In a deliberate and unprovoked action, 110 00:11:25,226 --> 00:11:30,306 Three North Vietnam PT boats unleash a torpedo attack against the Maddox. 111 00:11:30,341 --> 00:11:34,501 At once, the enemy patrol boats are brought under fire by the destroyer. 112 00:11:34,536 --> 00:11:40,620 The film charged an unprovoked attack. But it left out crucial facts. 113 00:11:40,655 --> 00:11:46,553 Early in the morning of July 31,unmarked South Vietnamese patrol boats 114 00:11:46,588 --> 00:11:49,251 had attacked two North Vietnamese island bases 115 00:11:49,286 --> 00:11:52,639 -- part of a covert operation supported by the CIA. 116 00:11:52,674 --> 00:11:56,154 The next night the Maddox was cruising up the coast, 117 00:11:56,189 --> 00:12:00,765 at one point as close as five miles.It changed course. 118 00:12:02,229 --> 00:12:07,564 And early on August 2 was ten miles off one of the islands raided earlier. 119 00:12:07,599 --> 00:12:12,058 North Vietnam's patrol boats attacked the Maddox six hours later. 120 00:12:12,093 --> 00:12:15,943 Hanoi linked the Maddox to the South Vietnamese raids. 121 00:12:15,978 --> 00:12:19,169 At the time Secretary McNamara stressed that 122 00:12:19,204 --> 00:12:22,156 the Maddox was simply on a routine patrol. 123 00:12:22,191 --> 00:12:30,554 No, it has no special relationship to any operations in that area. 124 00:12:30,589 --> 00:12:34,962 We're carrying routine patrols of this kind on all over the world all the time. 125 00:12:34,997 --> 00:12:40,583 Following the Sunday attack, the Maddox is joined by the U.S.S. Turner Joy. 126 00:12:40,618 --> 00:12:43,475 As directed by the President of the United States, 127 00:12:43,510 --> 00:12:48,242 the Maddox and Turner Joy resume patrol operations in the Gulf of Tonkin. 128 00:12:48,277 --> 00:12:51,013 On the night of August the 4th, 129 00:12:51,048 --> 00:12:55,844 North Vietnamese patrol boats strike again, as filmed in this re-creation. 130 00:12:57,736 --> 00:13:04,101 The determination of all Americans to carry out our full commitments 131 00:13:04,136 --> 00:13:06,657 to the people and to the government of South Vietnam 132 00:13:06,692 --> 00:13:11,275 will be redoubled by this outrage. 133 00:13:11,310 --> 00:13:19,178 Yet our response, for the present, will be limited and fitting. 134 00:13:19,213 --> 00:13:24,964 We Americans know, although others appear to forget, 135 00:13:24,999 --> 00:13:32,726 the risk of spreading conflict. We still seek no wider war. 136 00:13:36,444 --> 00:13:41,007 For the first time, American aircraft bombed North Vietnam. 137 00:13:48,784 --> 00:13:52,147 The retaliation came after the second incident 138 00:13:52,182 --> 00:13:55,486 -- an incident Hanoi has always denied. 139 00:13:58,981 --> 00:14:03,611 On the night of August 4, the United States made public 140 00:14:03,646 --> 00:14:06,334 that so-called "Gulf of Tonkin incident." 141 00:14:06,369 --> 00:14:12,043 But the story was a fabrication, created by the U.S. National Security Council. 142 00:14:14,038 --> 00:14:17,534 Even as the National Security Council met, 143 00:14:17,569 --> 00:14:23,406 American aircraft were being sent to destroy several areas of our country. 144 00:14:23,441 --> 00:14:28,598 In reality, the second Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened. 145 00:14:28,633 --> 00:14:30,116 At that time, 146 00:14:30,151 --> 00:14:34,899 I felt it was questionable whether the second incident took place. 147 00:14:34,934 --> 00:14:36,619 I simply was not sure. 148 00:14:36,654 --> 00:14:42,818 It was not until after a number of days of collation of reports from 149 00:14:42,853 --> 00:14:46,745 the field had taken place that many of the reports 150 00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:48,722 which seemed to relate to the second incident 151 00:14:48,757 --> 00:14:52,882 were proved either to be unsound or to relate to the first incident. 152 00:14:52,917 --> 00:14:57,819 This is what intelligence analysis is all about, and in a military situation, 153 00:14:57,854 --> 00:15:01,200 quite often the commanding officers -- in this case, 154 00:15:01,235 --> 00:15:05,579 the President of the United States -- don't wait for the details to be settled 155 00:15:05,614 --> 00:15:10,299 if they feel they are in a critical situation with a danger of military conflict. 156 00:15:10,334 --> 00:15:13,841 They make decisions without waiting for the intelligence detail. 157 00:15:13,876 --> 00:15:20,080 He felt that it represented, if not an escalation of the war on their part, 158 00:15:20,115 --> 00:15:24,268 at least a punch in the nose in a way 159 00:15:24,303 --> 00:15:27,749 that would humiliate a great power if it didn't respond. 160 00:15:27,784 --> 00:15:32,931 All of this went through his mind.And he also saw it as one dramatic way 161 00:15:32,966 --> 00:15:37,520 in which after weeks and months of seeming indecision, 162 00:15:37,555 --> 00:15:41,430 he could convey to Hanoi, to Saigon, 163 00:15:41,465 --> 00:15:43,784 and to the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, 164 00:15:43,819 --> 00:15:49,210 that you were not dealing with a softie. 165 00:15:49,245 --> 00:15:52,638 Well, I think that President Johnson has done the correct thing. 166 00:15:52,673 --> 00:15:53,358 I really do. 167 00:15:53,393 --> 00:15:57,352 I don't think that he could have done otherwise. 168 00:15:57,387 --> 00:16:01,825 Especially when they attacked the American flag, yeah. 169 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:06,450 I'm behind him on it. I'm not for Johnson. I'm for Goldwater. 170 00:16:06,485 --> 00:16:07,832 But I'm behind him on this. 171 00:16:07,867 --> 00:16:13,834 The minute incident number one happened, the attack on our ships, 172 00:16:13,869 --> 00:16:19,067 the resolution was brought right back off the shelf, 173 00:16:19,102 --> 00:16:24,759 put right to Congress and of course, after incident number two, 174 00:16:24,794 --> 00:16:30,563 sailed through with virtually no dissent. A blank check. 175 00:16:30,598 --> 00:16:35,388 Senator William Fulbright, persuaded that the second incident had occurred, 176 00:16:35,423 --> 00:16:38,646 whisked the resolution through Congress in two days. 177 00:16:38,681 --> 00:16:43,863 Well, I think it's a very clear demonstration of the unity of the country 178 00:16:43,898 --> 00:16:46,857 behind the policies that are being followed by 179 00:16:46,892 --> 00:16:50,772 the President in South Vietnam, and more specifically, 180 00:16:50,807 --> 00:16:55,427 of the action that was taken in response to the attack upon our destroyers. 181 00:16:55,462 --> 00:16:58,792 It shows a practically unanimous approval. 182 00:16:58,827 --> 00:17:03,900 It was unanimous in the House, and only two dissented in the Senate. 183 00:17:03,935 --> 00:17:07,041 Being in the minority never proves that you're wrong. 184 00:17:07,076 --> 00:17:12,449 In fact, history is going to record that Senator Greuning and I 185 00:17:12,484 --> 00:17:14,967 voted in the interest of the American people this morning 186 00:17:15,002 --> 00:17:17,044 when we voted against this resolution. 187 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:21,388 And I'd have the American people remember what this resolution really is. 188 00:17:21,423 --> 00:17:25,846 It's a resolution which seeks to give the President of the United States 189 00:17:25,881 --> 00:17:30,123 the power to make war without a declaration of war. 190 00:17:30,158 --> 00:17:35,119 Lyndon Johnson signed into law the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 191 00:17:35,154 --> 00:17:40,375 Congress gave the President full authority for military action in Southeast Asia. 192 00:17:51,215 --> 00:17:54,074 Backed by both political parties, 193 00:17:54,109 --> 00:17:57,561 Johnson had removed the war as an issue from the campaign. 194 00:18:03,877 --> 00:18:06,272 In the White House for the last 20 years, 195 00:18:06,307 --> 00:18:12,495 five Presidents from both parties have adopted a bi-partisan foreign policy. 196 00:18:12,530 --> 00:18:17,702 That bi-partisan foreign policy has kept us out of war 197 00:18:17,737 --> 00:18:21,159 and it's kept us at peace, and it's left your boy at home. 198 00:18:21,194 --> 00:18:23,343 And that's the way it ought to be... 199 00:18:26,313 --> 00:18:29,839 And that's the way it's going to be after November the 3rd. 200 00:18:29,874 --> 00:18:34,973 Johnson didn't seek a wider war. He didn't want a wider war. 201 00:18:35,008 --> 00:18:38,072 He knew the war would engulf everything 202 00:18:38,107 --> 00:18:40,101 that he wanted to do in this country. 203 00:18:40,136 --> 00:18:47,581 At the same time, he also knew that if he didn't fulfill what he thought 204 00:18:47,616 --> 00:18:50,316 was an honorable commitment from the United States to South Vietnam, 205 00:18:50,351 --> 00:18:53,784 his administration could be lost as well. 206 00:18:53,819 --> 00:18:57,853 Barry Goldwater began after the nomination to try to be 207 00:18:57,888 --> 00:19:02,556 Mr. Moderate, Mr. Respectable.He tried to stand more in the center 208 00:19:02,591 --> 00:19:04,819 of the Republican Party than on the far right. 209 00:19:04,854 --> 00:19:09,264 And the President said to me one day, "We've got to remind people of 210 00:19:09,299 --> 00:19:12,829 what Barry Goldwater was B.C. -- Before the Convention." 211 00:19:12,864 --> 00:19:25,778 Five, seven, six, six, eight, nine, nine. 212 00:19:25,813 --> 00:19:36,167 Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one, zero. 213 00:19:38,718 --> 00:19:41,248 These are the stakes. 214 00:19:41,283 --> 00:19:46,230 To make a world in which all of God's children can live. 215 00:19:46,265 --> 00:19:48,325 Or to go into the dark. 216 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:54,738 We must either love each other, or we must die. 217 00:19:54,773 --> 00:19:57,889 Vote for President Johnson on November 3. 218 00:19:57,924 --> 00:20:00,842 The stakes are too high for you to stay home. 219 00:20:00,877 --> 00:20:06,629 Thus Johnson portrayed Goldwater as irresponsible and himself 220 00:20:06,664 --> 00:20:10,483 as the candidate of restraint. He won a landslide victory. 221 00:20:11,849 --> 00:20:14,407 On the eve of the election, 222 00:20:14,442 --> 00:20:17,409 the Vietcong attacked an American airbase near Saigon. 223 00:20:17,444 --> 00:20:21,308 They destroyed aircraft used in operations against them. 224 00:20:21,343 --> 00:20:25,024 More planes had been sent after the Tonkin incidents. 225 00:20:25,059 --> 00:20:29,277 Escalation was breeding escalation. 226 00:20:29,312 --> 00:20:38,018 I recommended a retaliatory air strike for the bombing of Bienhoa airbase 227 00:20:38,053 --> 00:20:41,060 which was occupied largely by American aircraft, 228 00:20:41,095 --> 00:20:44,058 and the losses in personnel were all American. 229 00:20:44,093 --> 00:20:46,862 This was the first time the enemy had ever, 230 00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:51,644 had ever attacked a major military installation of the Americans. 231 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:55,642 It was a change of tactics. It shouldn't be shrugged off, I thought, 232 00:20:55,677 --> 00:20:57,583 as just another thing -- incident of the war. 233 00:20:57,618 --> 00:20:58,374 It was something new, 234 00:20:58,409 --> 00:21:03,815 and it was an excellent reason to have a retaliatory strike. 235 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:08,013 American carriers were poised.But President Johnson 236 00:21:08,048 --> 00:21:11,415 refused his ambassador's recommendation to bomb North Vietnam. 237 00:21:11,450 --> 00:21:14,561 The Vietcong attacked again. 238 00:21:17,389 --> 00:21:21,406 At the end of November, I was given the order to attack 239 00:21:21,441 --> 00:21:25,032 the Brink's Hotel which housed high American officers. 240 00:21:25,067 --> 00:21:29,424 All the crimes committed by the Americans 241 00:21:29,459 --> 00:21:31,632 were directed from this nerve center. 242 00:21:38,383 --> 00:21:42,164 I sat in a nearby cafe to wait for the explosion, 243 00:21:42,199 --> 00:21:49,610 which occurred at exactly five forty-five on the afternoon of December 24, 244 00:21:49,645 --> 00:21:54,103 the anniversary of the founding of the People's Army of Vietnam. 245 00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:58,402 Our commanders had ordered us to attack the place 246 00:21:58,437 --> 00:22:00,344 when the most Americans were there. 247 00:22:00,379 --> 00:22:04,644 And it was precisely as we had expected, since they were 248 00:22:04,679 --> 00:22:07,812 at the Brink's Hotel to plan their Christmas activities. 249 00:22:07,847 --> 00:22:11,918 Many Americans had also gone there from the Rex Hotel. 250 00:22:11,953 --> 00:22:18,465 As a result, the attack succeeded and we were never detected. 251 00:22:20,925 --> 00:22:24,342 The Christmas Eve attack was the second major assault 252 00:22:24,377 --> 00:22:28,174 on Americans in two months.Ambassador Taylor called once more 253 00:22:28,209 --> 00:22:32,986 for a bombing strike against the North.Again, Johnson refused. 254 00:22:33,021 --> 00:22:38,232 Again, recommended retaliation, got turned down. 255 00:22:38,267 --> 00:22:41,947 I felt reasonably sure, who wants to bomb Santy Claus? 256 00:22:45,769 --> 00:22:51,637 Four days after the Vietcong team blew up the Brink's Hotel, two Vietcong 257 00:22:51,672 --> 00:22:55,322 regiments prepared to strike the village of Binh Gia near Saigon. 258 00:23:09,078 --> 00:23:13,884 They inflicted the first of a series of devastating defeats on Saigon's army. 259 00:23:46,103 --> 00:23:51,195 This was the use of battalion sized units, 260 00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:55,623 reinforced battalion sized units, by the enemy, and the successful use 261 00:23:55,658 --> 00:24:03,033 that I feared would spread and was perhaps the beginning of a gradual movement 262 00:24:03,068 --> 00:24:09,932 toward a major effort, using not guerrillas, not small units, but large units. 263 00:24:09,967 --> 00:24:14,882 It was not until we were presented with a larger war that the decisions then 264 00:24:14,917 --> 00:24:19,068 had to be made as to whether we would let them get what they were after 265 00:24:19,103 --> 00:24:21,957 or whether we would make a greater effort ourselves. 266 00:24:21,992 --> 00:24:26,548 National Security Adviser McGeorge Bundy already favored a greater effort 267 00:24:26,583 --> 00:24:29,990 when he arrived in Saigon in early February 1965. 268 00:24:30,025 --> 00:24:34,471 He had recently urged the President to bomb North Vietnam. 269 00:24:34,506 --> 00:24:41,364 The President has asked me to extend the New Year's greeting to 270 00:24:41,399 --> 00:24:46,351 all the people of Vietnam and to express his conviction 271 00:24:46,386 --> 00:24:51,949 that the Year of the Snake can be one in which security 272 00:24:51,984 --> 00:24:55,684 and prosperity grow in Vietnam. 273 00:24:55,719 --> 00:24:58,372 While McGeorge Bundy was in Saigon, 274 00:24:58,407 --> 00:25:02,611 the Vietcong attacked an American outpost at Pleiku, in the Central Highlands. 275 00:25:02,646 --> 00:25:08,329 It was the third attack on Americans in three months. 276 00:25:08,364 --> 00:25:12,650 Eight died. One hundred twenty-six were wounded. 277 00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:16,529 We found our friends in Washington on the wire, 278 00:25:16,564 --> 00:25:22,361 and they wanted our recommendation. 279 00:25:22,396 --> 00:25:27,817 It took us a little while to concert a view 280 00:25:27,852 --> 00:25:33,261 which was that this episode did call for a reply. 281 00:25:37,755 --> 00:25:42,224 In the first raid, land-based planes were forced back by the weather, 282 00:25:42,259 --> 00:25:46,436 but the carrier jets completed their strike with the loss of one American plane. 283 00:25:46,471 --> 00:25:48,973 Later, photo-reconnaissance flights prove that 284 00:25:49,008 --> 00:25:51,640 much of the staging area had been completely destroyed. 285 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:54,434 The confrontation between the Reds and the West 286 00:25:54,469 --> 00:25:58,148 was the most critical since the Gulf of Tonkin incident last summer, 287 00:25:58,183 --> 00:26:03,282 when the U.S. replied just as swiftly to North Vietnam PT boat attacks. 288 00:26:08,409 --> 00:26:11,657 A few days later, Johnson gave the green light 289 00:26:11,692 --> 00:26:17,709 to sustained bombing in North Vietnam.He hoped to bolster Saigon's morale. 290 00:26:17,744 --> 00:26:21,856 But there was a coup attempt in Saigon on February 19. 291 00:26:21,891 --> 00:26:26,786 The bombing was to begin the next day coordinated with the Saigon government. 292 00:26:26,821 --> 00:26:31,439 Ambassador Taylor cancelled it. The government was in turmoil. 293 00:26:31,474 --> 00:26:35,471 In fact, it had been in turmoil for months. 294 00:26:35,506 --> 00:26:40,695 When Khanh took advantage of the Tonkin incidents 295 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:44,320 the previous August to tighten his grip, students had rioted. 296 00:26:44,355 --> 00:26:47,679 Buddhists also protested. 297 00:26:47,714 --> 00:26:51,215 But demonstrating Buddhists threatened the Catholics. 298 00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:54,905 They staged a sit-down strike. After ten days, 299 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:58,558 Khanh formed a triumvirate to try to rule South Vietnam. 300 00:26:58,593 --> 00:27:03,840 Four days later, Khanh resigned. He said he was ill. 301 00:27:03,875 --> 00:27:08,557 Who is the man who can lead Vietnam to victory? 302 00:27:08,592 --> 00:27:13,216 Well, I think you've got me there. 303 00:27:13,251 --> 00:27:17,680 Acting Prime Minister Nguyen Oanh, a Harvard-educated economist, 304 00:27:17,715 --> 00:27:20,749 lasted three days. Then Khanh returned. 305 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:26,094 Although I have not yet quite recovered from my illness, 306 00:27:26,129 --> 00:27:31,668 I do my best to return today to assume the responsibility 307 00:27:31,703 --> 00:27:35,633 of leading the government in these critical times. 308 00:27:35,668 --> 00:27:40,050 A week later, in mid-September, there was a coup attempt. 309 00:27:40,085 --> 00:27:44,802 The thing that worried Johnson -- and constantly worried him 310 00:27:44,837 --> 00:27:48,683 -- was the instability of the South Vietnamese government. 311 00:27:48,718 --> 00:27:50,329 I guess you might call -- 312 00:27:50,364 --> 00:27:53,873 the coat of arms of the Vietnamese government was a turnstile,for God's sake. 313 00:27:53,908 --> 00:27:57,448 And, and I remember very vividly 314 00:27:57,483 --> 00:27:59,794 somebody would come in his office and say, 315 00:27:59,829 --> 00:28:03,498 "Looks like there's a coup beginning in Vietnam." There'd be another coup. 316 00:28:03,533 --> 00:28:08,627 You know, coups were like fleas on a dog, and Johnson said, 317 00:28:08,662 --> 00:28:10,572 "I don't want to hear any more about this coup shit. 318 00:28:10,607 --> 00:28:12,426 I've had enough of it, 319 00:28:12,461 --> 00:28:15,466 and we've got to find a way to stabilize those people out there." 320 00:28:16,582 --> 00:28:18,444 That proved difficult. 321 00:28:18,479 --> 00:28:21,977 Khanh turned the government over to civilians in the fall, 322 00:28:22,012 --> 00:28:24,962 but continued to intrigue as head of the armed forces. 323 00:28:30,111 --> 00:28:32,321 The political turmoil intensified. 324 00:28:40,313 --> 00:28:44,194 In February, with Ambassador Taylor's approval, 325 00:28:44,229 --> 00:28:47,363 Khanh's own military colleagues rebelled against him 326 00:28:47,398 --> 00:28:49,314 and banished him to the United Nations. 327 00:28:49,349 --> 00:28:53,371 Though a stable government remained elusive, 328 00:28:53,406 --> 00:28:56,177 the campaign of bombing North Vietnam began. 329 00:29:01,614 --> 00:29:04,743 It was called "Rolling Thunder." 330 00:29:08,482 --> 00:29:12,144 We thought that at a certain point 331 00:29:12,179 --> 00:29:16,856 and in conjunction with a situation within the South that was turned around 332 00:29:16,891 --> 00:29:20,718 it would be a decisive thing in getting Hanoi to say, 333 00:29:20,753 --> 00:29:25,571 "All right, we can't get there now, we will fall back,not abandon 334 00:29:25,606 --> 00:29:29,744 the objective of taking over the South, but drop it for now." 335 00:29:29,779 --> 00:29:36,350 We never had the view that bombing would bring about quick results; 336 00:29:36,385 --> 00:29:41,581 certainly not on the essentially measured scale that was actually carried out. 337 00:29:41,616 --> 00:29:44,936 We thought it would cut down the amount of the infiltration 338 00:29:44,971 --> 00:29:48,380 that by hitting the supply lines, you'd make it much more difficult. 339 00:29:48,415 --> 00:29:55,774 I had been a director of the United States Strategic Bombing Survey at the, 340 00:29:55,809 --> 00:29:58,160 toward the end of the Second World War. 341 00:29:58,195 --> 00:30:03,048 And we'd made a detailed study of the effects of strategic bombing 342 00:30:03,083 --> 00:30:06,258 on not only the German war economy, 343 00:30:06,293 --> 00:30:09,100 but on the psychology of the German people. 344 00:30:09,135 --> 00:30:10,920 I was convinced that 345 00:30:10,955 --> 00:30:14,476 we were not going to achieve our will by bombing the North; 346 00:30:14,511 --> 00:30:20,418 that in the first place, it was a fairly primitive industrial society, 347 00:30:20,453 --> 00:30:22,658 and that there weren't the kind of targets 348 00:30:22,693 --> 00:30:25,798 that were adapted for strategic bombing. 349 00:30:25,833 --> 00:30:28,590 And secondly, I was convinced that 350 00:30:28,625 --> 00:30:32,240 we would never break the will of a determined people by simply bombing; 351 00:30:32,275 --> 00:30:36,091 and in fact, we would probably tend to unite them more than ever. 352 00:30:40,536 --> 00:30:44,434 The Thanh Hoa Bridge, 80 miles from Hanoi, 353 00:30:44,469 --> 00:30:47,308 was an important target in the spring of 1965. 354 00:30:52,963 --> 00:30:57,183 It was bombed and repaired, year after year. 355 00:31:12,372 --> 00:31:16,159 When the bombing program started, I realized that the airfields 356 00:31:16,194 --> 00:31:19,411 and we had three jet-capable airfields -- were extremely vulnerable. 357 00:31:19,446 --> 00:31:27,100 If that strategy was to be a viable one, we had to protect those airfields. 358 00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:32,950 I feared that the Vietnamese did not have the capability of protecting 359 00:31:32,985 --> 00:31:37,062 the American aircraft on those airfields, and therefore, 360 00:31:37,097 --> 00:31:42,984 my first request for troops was associated with protecting the airfields. 361 00:31:44,355 --> 00:31:48,403 The President granted Westmoreland's request with little debate. 362 00:31:48,404 --> 00:31:51,791 On March 8, 1965, 363 00:31:51,826 --> 00:31:56,890 3,500 U.S. Marines landed to protect the air base at Danang. 364 00:31:56,925 --> 00:32:02,680 The decision to deploy these first Marines was not part of a plan 365 00:32:02,715 --> 00:32:04,591 for a massive troop buildup. 366 00:32:04,626 --> 00:32:09,103 But 200,000 troops would be committed by the end of the year. 367 00:32:09,138 --> 00:32:14,810 My opinion was:Let's not bring any ground forces in until we have to. 368 00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:19,737 Once you get into this business, how do you turn back?" 369 00:32:19,772 --> 00:32:24,741 No one was blind about the danger of that first soldier, marine coming ashore. 370 00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:26,532 I certainly wasn't. 371 00:32:26,567 --> 00:32:29,455 Once that decision was made and the Marines started coming ashore, 372 00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:31,241 as far as I was concerned, that's that. 373 00:32:31,276 --> 00:32:35,656 Let's go, boys, as fast as we can receive these troops logistically 374 00:32:35,691 --> 00:32:37,153 and have a real mission for them. 375 00:32:42,182 --> 00:32:45,049 Three weeks after the Marines landed, 376 00:32:45,084 --> 00:32:48,278 the Vietcong attacked the American Embassy in Saigon. 377 00:32:48,313 --> 00:32:50,617 We need a stretcher over here!Stretcher? 378 00:32:50,652 --> 00:33:00,734 Right over here is one! I want some help over here! 379 00:33:00,769 --> 00:33:02,971 Mr. Secretary...more Americans? 380 00:33:03,006 --> 00:33:08,027 No, principally logistical support, arms, munitions, training assistance. 381 00:33:08,062 --> 00:33:10,705 As many as 5,000 sir? We've heard this report... 382 00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:14,457 No, I'm not discussing primarily additional personnel. 383 00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:19,742 In early April, Johnson tried to keep the troop deployments a secret. 384 00:33:19,777 --> 00:33:23,286 In fact, two additional Marine battalions had already 385 00:33:23,321 --> 00:33:25,887 hit the beach as Secretary McNamara spoke. 386 00:33:25,922 --> 00:33:30,145 Others followed, week by week, with little fanfare. 387 00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:33,637 Seventy-two thousand troops were committed that spring. 388 00:33:33,672 --> 00:33:40,310 One of the reasons for this gradualness in our buildup of resistance 389 00:33:40,345 --> 00:33:44,478 in South Vietnam was due to the fact that 390 00:33:44,513 --> 00:33:50,455 we did not want to present Moscow and Hanoi with a major new situation 391 00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:58,078 during any given week, which would require them to go through an orgasm 392 00:33:58,113 --> 00:34:01,770 of decision-making based upon worldwide strategic considerations. 393 00:34:01,805 --> 00:34:07,145 And so each week was not all that different than the week before. 394 00:34:07,180 --> 00:34:12,076 In early April, Johnson also changed the mission of troops. 395 00:34:12,111 --> 00:34:16,753 The passive defense of air bases lasted less than a month. 396 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:19,907 When the Marines were first landed at Danang, 397 00:34:19,942 --> 00:34:24,754 we were told that the objective was to defend the air base. 398 00:34:24,789 --> 00:34:28,042 How do you resolve that, sir, with your statements in Saigon 399 00:34:28,077 --> 00:34:32,105 that their objective is to kill the Vietcong --to seek them out and kill them? 400 00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:38,145 Well, I did say that; I think that goes along with our objective,our mission, 401 00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:46,256 our assignment to defend that big complex at Danang and Phu Bai. 402 00:34:46,291 --> 00:34:51,097 You can't defend a place like that by sitting on your ditty-box. 403 00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:54,524 You've got to get out and aggressively patrol. 404 00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:56,554 And that's what our people are doing. 405 00:34:56,589 --> 00:34:58,616 And the one thing I emphasized to them 406 00:34:58,651 --> 00:35:02,359 while I was out there was to find these Vietcong and kill them. 407 00:35:02,394 --> 00:35:06,164 A U.S. president, for the first time, 408 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:10,137 had authorized ground troops for offensive operations in Vietnam. 409 00:35:10,172 --> 00:35:15,039 Their patrols were limited to a 50-mile radius of coastal bases. 410 00:35:15,074 --> 00:35:17,032 Johnson was moving with caution. 411 00:35:17,067 --> 00:35:20,994 But these additional troops -- and their expanded role -- 412 00:35:21,029 --> 00:35:24,078 were also designed to show Ho Chi Minh his determination. 413 00:35:24,113 --> 00:35:28,430 Five days after he committed them, Johnson made Ho an offer. 414 00:35:28,465 --> 00:35:33,544 The vast Mekong River can provide food and water and power 415 00:35:33,579 --> 00:35:36,877 on a scale to dwarf even our own T.V.A. 416 00:35:36,912 --> 00:35:42,097 Johnson offered Ho a vast development project to benefit 417 00:35:42,132 --> 00:35:46,128 all of Southeast Asia if Ho would abandon his goals. 418 00:35:46,163 --> 00:35:55,577 And we remain ready with this purpose, for unconditional discussions. 419 00:35:55,612 --> 00:36:01,588 Coming back in the helicopter from that speech in 1965 420 00:36:01,623 --> 00:36:06,770 at Johns Hopkins University where he had promised a T.V.A. for the Mekong valley, 421 00:36:06,805 --> 00:36:10,673 if only Ho Chi Minh would be reasonable -- he leaned across to an assistant, 422 00:36:10,708 --> 00:36:16,020 put his hand on his knee, and said, "Old Ho can't turn that down. 423 00:36:16,055 --> 00:36:18,000 Old Ho can't turn that down." 424 00:36:18,035 --> 00:36:20,703 You see, if Ho Chi Minh had been George Meany, 425 00:36:20,738 --> 00:36:22,535 Lyndon Johnson would have had a deal. 426 00:36:22,570 --> 00:36:25,732 Mr. Secretary, what is your reaction to the announcement 427 00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:29,470 from the Communist side, rejecting our offer of negotiation? 428 00:36:29,505 --> 00:36:32,231 Well, we regret that. As President Johnson said Saturday, 429 00:36:32,266 --> 00:36:34,900 there've been many disappointments over the past week; that is one. 430 00:36:34,935 --> 00:36:39,670 We stand ready and willing to talk anytime, any place. 431 00:36:39,705 --> 00:36:44,128 Has our bombing attack really hurt the North Vietnamese? 432 00:36:44,163 --> 00:36:46,228 I don't think there's any question but what it has. 433 00:36:46,263 --> 00:36:50,683 In particular, during the past two weeks, we've concentrated on bridges 434 00:36:50,718 --> 00:36:53,553 and the routes of communication and destroyed many of these, 435 00:36:53,588 --> 00:36:55,788 and this can't help but delay the movement of men 436 00:36:55,823 --> 00:36:58,059 and material to the Communists in the South. 437 00:36:58,094 --> 00:37:03,568 This film was staged by the East Germans. But the message was true. 438 00:37:03,603 --> 00:37:06,522 The bombing campaign was not working. 439 00:37:06,557 --> 00:37:10,361 Supplies from North Vietnam were reaching far into the South. 440 00:37:12,851 --> 00:37:20,335 In the spring of 1965, every report -- the CIA, the military, the embassy, 441 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:22,169 independent observers who had been there 442 00:37:22,204 --> 00:37:27,714 were saying Vietnam is on the verge of collapse. And the President says, 443 00:37:27,749 --> 00:37:31,761 "I feel like a hitchhiker caught in a hailstorm on a Texas highway. 444 00:37:31,796 --> 00:37:37,239 I can't run, I can't hide, and I can't make it stop." 445 00:37:37,274 --> 00:37:42,221 By the spring of 1965, the war had changed. 446 00:37:42,256 --> 00:37:46,790 Large units of Vietcong replaced guerrillas as the main fighting force. 447 00:37:46,825 --> 00:37:51,514 In June they destroyed the military outpost of Dong Xoai. 448 00:37:51,549 --> 00:37:55,901 And much of the village. 449 00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:04,949 Saigon lost 800 of its best troops. 450 00:38:06,702 --> 00:38:10,383 The army of South Vietnam was near collapse. 451 00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:27,194 The civilian government did collapse at that time.And the military took over. 452 00:38:27,229 --> 00:38:32,335 I asked all of them -- 60 or 70 of them, you know, in the room. 453 00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:37,335 I said, "Okay -- ah, one more time. Anyone want to be prime minister?" 454 00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:43,492 And they said no. So Thieu said, "I propose Ky." 455 00:38:43,527 --> 00:38:54,777 And all of them just stood up and accept the offer. 456 00:38:57,650 --> 00:39:01,552 But then I, I didn't give them the answer. 457 00:39:01,587 --> 00:39:05,763 I said, "I have to go back and talk with my wife first." 458 00:39:05,798 --> 00:39:10,684 And when I told her about that offer, 459 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,998 you know, she was not excited. 460 00:39:14,033 --> 00:39:18,770 She said, "Oh no! Not that job! Not as a prime minister!" 461 00:39:18,805 --> 00:39:25,734 Ha, ha. I'm not a good politician. I'm not a good diplomat. 462 00:39:25,769 --> 00:39:31,548 You know, I think all I know, the only thing I can do well is, 463 00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:38,527 you know, flying the airplane. I said, "Well? What can I do now?" 464 00:39:50,166 --> 00:39:54,944 I feel it's important at this juncture that we prepare for the long pull. 465 00:39:54,979 --> 00:39:58,151 The situation was desperate. 466 00:39:58,186 --> 00:40:03,067 Westmoreland conferred in July with Secretary McNamara and General Wheeler, 467 00:40:03,102 --> 00:40:04,848 chairman of the Joint Chiefs. 468 00:40:04,883 --> 00:40:09,229 He had asked for an immediate troop increase to 125,000 men, 469 00:40:09,264 --> 00:40:11,630 200,000 by year's end. 470 00:40:11,665 --> 00:40:16,440 Johnson approved the request while McNamara was in Saigon. 471 00:40:16,441 --> 00:40:21,093 The President then had a series of high level meetings staged as 472 00:40:21,128 --> 00:40:25,841 a genuine debate, to seek consensus on the decision he had quietly made. 473 00:40:25,876 --> 00:40:29,731 I remember him turning to Wheeler, and he said to him, 474 00:40:29,766 --> 00:40:32,515 "You're asking for 200,000 more men now. 475 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:36,920 What happens if in two, three, four years you ask me for 500,000 men?" 476 00:40:36,955 --> 00:40:38,950 (A very prophetic statement.) 477 00:40:38,985 --> 00:40:41,695 "What do you expect me to do? How can I respond to it? 478 00:40:41,730 --> 00:40:45,836 What makes you think Ho Chi Minh won't match us for every man we send in?" 479 00:40:45,871 --> 00:40:48,524 And another time to the group he said, 480 00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:51,252 "We've got two questions that we've got to answer. 481 00:40:51,287 --> 00:40:57,640 Can Westerners fight a war in Asian jungles? 482 00:40:57,675 --> 00:41:01,006 And, number two, how on earth can we fight a war 483 00:41:01,041 --> 00:41:05,011 under the direction of others whose governments topple like bowling pins?" 484 00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:08,242 He said, "Now somebody answer those questions for me." 485 00:41:08,277 --> 00:41:13,726 In explaining to the President the concern that I felt about a mounting escalation, 486 00:41:13,761 --> 00:41:16,243 I said to him, "You know, once on the tiger's back, 487 00:41:16,278 --> 00:41:19,077 we can't pick the time to dismount. 488 00:41:19,112 --> 00:41:22,884 You're going to lose control of this situation, and this could be very serious." 489 00:41:22,919 --> 00:41:25,691 Secretary McNamara framed the three options. 490 00:41:25,726 --> 00:41:27,886 Option number one was to cut our losses and get out. 491 00:41:27,921 --> 00:41:29,744 Option number two was a middle course. 492 00:41:29,779 --> 00:41:33,110 Option number three was to give the military in Vietnam what it wanted. 493 00:41:33,145 --> 00:41:35,772 Listen to the way the first option was phrased: 494 00:41:35,807 --> 00:41:40,335 "cut our losses and withdraw under the best conditions that can be arranged. 495 00:41:40,370 --> 00:41:44,424 Almost certainly, conditions humiliating the United States 496 00:41:44,459 --> 00:41:48,338 and very damaging to our future effectiveness on the world scene." 497 00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:50,153 Now you're president, 498 00:41:50,188 --> 00:41:52,668 and you have this memorandum from the secretary of defense, 499 00:41:52,703 --> 00:41:56,695 and it says you can cut our losses and withdraw under the best conditions; 500 00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:58,920 however, it's going to make a fool of you in the world. 501 00:41:58,955 --> 00:42:03,854 I mean, that was an option the very framing of which presumed its rejection. 502 00:42:03,889 --> 00:42:07,267 Our reputation as a nation consisted of many things. 503 00:42:07,302 --> 00:42:11,392 Not the least of which was that we had some sense of perspective and, 504 00:42:11,427 --> 00:42:12,804 therefore, had some judgment. 505 00:42:12,839 --> 00:42:16,228 While many of our allied countries were beginning to think that we had, 506 00:42:16,263 --> 00:42:19,064 we were out of our minds to pursue such a futile war. 507 00:42:19,099 --> 00:42:21,437 Peace has been maintained because 508 00:42:21,472 --> 00:42:24,032 people in certain other capitals would say to themselves, 509 00:42:24,067 --> 00:42:26,167 "Now look, comrades, we'd better be a little careful here 510 00:42:26,202 --> 00:42:29,726 because those damn fool Americans just might do something about it." 511 00:42:29,761 --> 00:42:35,086 If that question in their minds got to be a sense of certainty 512 00:42:35,121 --> 00:42:36,806 that we would not do something about it, 513 00:42:36,841 --> 00:42:39,601 then I think we'd be exposed to very great dangers. 514 00:42:39,636 --> 00:42:45,142 I found him the most sympathetic of all of the people in the entourage. 515 00:42:45,177 --> 00:42:50,237 He was the one who seemed to take my cautionary views most seriously. 516 00:42:50,272 --> 00:42:55,854 He was the one who seemed to be probing more and more deeply for a way out. 517 00:42:55,889 --> 00:43:01,150 But he could never reconcile extrication with his personal commitment 518 00:43:01,185 --> 00:43:04,291 that he would not be the first president to lose a war. 519 00:43:05,606 --> 00:43:10,055 We do not want an expanding struggle with consequences 520 00:43:10,090 --> 00:43:17,963 that no one can foresee.Nor will we bluster or bully or flaunt our power. 521 00:43:17,998 --> 00:43:25,411 But we will not surrender. And we will not retreat. 522 00:43:25,446 --> 00:43:30,761 We intend to convince the Communists 523 00:43:30,796 --> 00:43:37,945 that we cannot be defeated by force of arms or by superior power. 524 00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:42,539 I have asked the commanding general, General Westmoreland, 525 00:43:42,574 --> 00:43:48,182 what more he needs to meet this mounting aggression. 526 00:43:48,217 --> 00:43:55,102 He has told me, and we will meet his needs. 527 00:43:55,137 --> 00:44:00,932 There was no major address before Congress. 528 00:44:00,967 --> 00:44:04,058 Johnson already had his Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 529 00:44:04,093 --> 00:44:08,865 And there was no major announcement on prime time television. 530 00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:14,359 Johnson disclosed his decision in a press conference at midday. 531 00:44:14,394 --> 00:44:19,340 I think it's hard to avoid the conclusion that 532 00:44:19,375 --> 00:44:24,937 the President wanted as low-keyed an announcement as he could get, 533 00:44:24,972 --> 00:44:32,340 and as little energetic public debate as possible. 534 00:44:32,375 --> 00:44:38,229 We did make a deliberate decision not to create a war fever in this country. 535 00:44:38,264 --> 00:44:43,859 You didn't see members of the armed forces 536 00:44:43,894 --> 00:44:47,127 or units of the armed forces parading through American cities. 537 00:44:47,162 --> 00:44:51,739 You didn't see pretty movie stars out selling bonds in factories 538 00:44:51,774 --> 00:44:54,003 and things like that -- all the things we did during World War II 539 00:44:54,038 --> 00:45:00,332 because we felt that in this nuclear world, where thousands of megatons 540 00:45:00,367 --> 00:45:02,547 are lying around in the hands of frail human beings, 541 00:45:02,582 --> 00:45:06,811 it's just too dangerous for an entire people to become too angry. 542 00:45:06,846 --> 00:45:11,066 We are going to do everything we can with our left hand, 543 00:45:11,101 --> 00:45:21,506 to negotiate an agreement that will allow people to breathe free independently. 544 00:45:21,541 --> 00:45:28,837 Independent of any ideology of ours, or of anyone else's. 545 00:45:28,872 --> 00:45:33,570 Give them the right of choice. And if we do that, we'll come home tomorrow. 546 00:45:33,643 --> 00:45:37,643 As Lyndon Johnson spoke on the White House lawn, 547 00:45:37,678 --> 00:45:42,183 a Marine rifle company left Danang for a cluster of hamlets nearby. 548 00:45:48,304 --> 00:45:53,191 Vietcong from this area had recently hit Danang in a mortar attack. 549 00:45:53,226 --> 00:45:56,968 And they had shot seven marines on an earlier sweep. 550 00:45:57,003 --> 00:46:06,993 If I resist them, if I deter them,if we keep our commitment 551 00:46:07,028 --> 00:46:10,134 that three presidents have made -- President Eisenhower, 552 00:46:10,169 --> 00:46:14,608 President Kennedy and the present president -- then the people say, 553 00:46:14,643 --> 00:46:20,660 "Well, you should come on home. What happens there doesn't matter." 554 00:46:22,804 --> 00:46:24,961 If you stay there, there's some that say, 555 00:46:24,996 --> 00:46:26,822 "Well, you ought to get it over with in a hurry." 556 00:46:28,938 --> 00:46:31,982 So some want to go and blow up every-thing. 557 00:46:32,017 --> 00:46:35,999 Some want to come and blow up nothing and leave and get out and forget them. 558 00:46:38,025 --> 00:46:41,689 We're trying to do the reasonable thing, to say that 559 00:46:41,724 --> 00:46:48,691 power and brute force and aggression are not going to prevail. 560 00:46:48,726 --> 00:46:53,010 You can't do this thing by force.Now let's sit down and reason it out, 561 00:46:53,045 --> 00:46:56,317 and let's try to allow these people a choice. 562 00:46:56,352 --> 00:47:01,478 That's what I'm trying so hard to do, and that's what I need your help on. 563 00:47:28,865 --> 00:47:36,717 Why, oh why, oh why don't people concern themselves with a country 564 00:47:36,752 --> 00:47:44,710 that's trying to maintain her independence from aggression? 565 00:47:44,745 --> 00:47:48,453 That's being invaded? 566 00:47:48,488 --> 00:47:55,260 Johnson called it invasion. Hanoi called it liberation. 567 00:47:57,148 --> 00:48:00,143 In the fall of 1965, 568 00:48:00,178 --> 00:48:03,741 three North Vietnamese regiments massed in the Central Highlands. 569 00:48:03,776 --> 00:48:08,396 Nearly two years had passed 570 00:48:08,431 --> 00:48:11,894 since Johnson renewed the U.S. commitment to defend South Vietnam. 571 00:48:11,929 --> 00:48:14,142 Nearly two years had passed 572 00:48:14,177 --> 00:48:17,755 since Ho Chi Minh renewed his commitment to liberate the South. 573 00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:20,848 Now their two armies braced for battle. 574 00:48:20,883 --> 00:48:27,771 Westmoreland feared the North Vietnamese would cut South Vietnam in two. 575 00:48:27,806 --> 00:48:34,327 He would block them with his skytroopers, the First Air Cavalry. 576 00:48:34,362 --> 00:48:40,957 Now, America wins the wars that she undertakes; make no mistake about it. 577 00:48:40,992 --> 00:48:47,491 And we have declared war on ignorance and illiteracy. 578 00:48:47,526 --> 00:48:55,355 We have declared war on poverty. We have declared war on disease. 579 00:48:58,848 --> 00:49:03,985 And we have declared war on tyranny and aggression. 580 00:49:04,020 --> 00:49:08,981 And we not only stand for these things, 581 00:49:09,016 --> 00:49:13,315 but we're willing to stand up and die for these things. 582 00:49:16,303 --> 00:49:20,055 Westmoreland sent the Air Cavalry in search of Hanoi's army, 583 00:49:20,090 --> 00:49:25,510 poised in a river valley, at the foot of the Chu Pong Mountains. 584 00:49:34,162 --> 00:49:39,121 For the first time, in the Battle of the Ia Drang Valley, 585 00:49:39,156 --> 00:49:43,533 Americans fought the North Vietnamese -- face to face. 586 00:50:35,482 --> 00:50:40,957 For the first time, B-52s supported troops in the field. 587 00:51:28,747 --> 00:51:34,687 And for the first time, to Americans, Vietnam meant a major new war. 588 00:51:34,722 --> 00:51:41,835 How many men who listen to me tonight have served their nation in other wars? 589 00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:47,233 How very many are not here to listen? 590 00:51:47,268 --> 00:51:52,559 The war in Vietnam is not like these other wars. 591 00:51:52,594 --> 00:51:58,330 Yet, finally, war is always the same. 592 00:51:58,365 --> 00:52:04,858 It is young men dying in the fullness of their promise. 593 00:52:04,893 --> 00:52:12,024 It is trying to kill a man that you do not even know well enough to hate. 594 00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:27,612 Therefore, to know war is to know that there is still madness in this world. 595 00:52:36,133 --> 00:52:42,188 For we have children to teach, and we have sick to be cured, 596 00:52:42,223 --> 00:52:44,844 and we have men to be freed. 597 00:52:44,879 --> 00:52:49,507 There are poor to be lifted up, and there are cities to be built, 598 00:52:49,542 --> 00:52:55,735 and there is a world to be helped. Yet, we do what we must. 599 00:52:55,770 --> 00:53:04,795 I am hopeful, and I will try with the best I can,with every-thing I've got, 600 00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:10,733 to end this battle and to return our sons to their desires. 601 00:53:10,768 --> 00:53:17,140 Yet, as long as others will challenge America's security, 602 00:53:17,175 --> 00:53:22,575 and test the dearness of our beliefs with fire and steel, 603 00:53:22,610 --> 00:53:29,142 then we must stand, or see the promise of two centuries tremble. 57143

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