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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,701 . 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:37,237 --> 00:00:42,042 Applause 5 00:00:45,412 --> 00:00:48,248 ♪ In the movie plays of nowadays, 6 00:00:48,248 --> 00:00:51,184 ♪ A romance always must begin in June, 7 00:00:51,184 --> 00:00:54,454 ♪ Tales in magazines have all their scenes, 8 00:00:54,454 --> 00:00:57,157 ♪ Of love laid in a garden 'neath the moon, 9 00:00:57,524 --> 00:01:00,627 ♪ But we don't miss, that kind of bliss, 10 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:02,562 ♪ What we want is this, 11 00:01:02,562 --> 00:01:06,266 ♪ A cup of coffee, a sandwich and you, 12 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:08,768 ♪ A cozy corner, A table for two, 13 00:01:09,502 --> 00:01:11,871 ♪ A chance to whisper, to cuddle and coo, 14 00:01:12,605 --> 00:01:14,707 ♪ With lots of huggin ' and kissin' and you, 15 00:01:15,408 --> 00:01:17,944 ♪ We don't need music, lobster or wine, 16 00:01:18,211 --> 00:01:20,646 ♪ Whenever your eyes look into mine, 17 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:23,683 ♪ The things we long for are simple and new, 18 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:27,120 ♪ A cup of coffee, a sandwich and you. 19 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:30,223 ♪ We don't need music, lobster or wine, 20 00:01:30,223 --> 00:01:33,093 ♪ Whenever your eyes look into mine, 21 00:01:33,860 --> 00:01:35,527 ♪ The things we long for are simple and few, 22 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:43,970 ♪ A cup of coffee, a sandwich and you. 23 00:01:48,708 --> 00:01:52,178 Evening ladies and gentlemen may I present Mr. Bertram Ross 24 00:01:52,378 --> 00:01:56,015 Good evening ladies and gentlemen may I present Mr. John Wallowitch 25 00:01:56,015 --> 00:01:57,450 No. 26 00:01:58,418 --> 00:02:03,523 It was the 10th Anniversary of the Ballroom, the place was mobbed, 27 00:02:03,623 --> 00:02:08,661 Mayor Koch was there, I told John I wasn't gonna sing. He said you'll sing. 28 00:02:08,828 --> 00:02:11,297 I couldn't stand up and say no, no I'm not gonna sing. 29 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:16,169 John said I want you to say something before you sing 30 00:02:16,169 --> 00:02:19,706 so they don't think you speak that way all the time. 31 00:02:20,006 --> 00:02:27,046 So I said that this is a song written by Irving Berlin in 1914 32 00:02:28,715 --> 00:02:31,216 and it is a a song that my father did not sing to me. 33 00:02:34,654 --> 00:02:38,324 Old man Rosenthal lay sick in bed, 34 00:02:38,324 --> 00:02:41,161 Soon the Doctor came around and said, 35 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:46,466 There no use crying this man is dying he can't live very long, 36 00:02:46,466 --> 00:02:53,273 Send my son here to my side they heard the old man say, 37 00:02:53,273 --> 00:02:57,911 I've got something to tell him before I pass away, 38 00:02:59,312 --> 00:03:05,885 Soon his son was sitting by his bed ohhh what's the matter papa dear he said, 39 00:03:05,885 --> 00:03:15,695 The old man said my son before my days are done, I want to you to know, 40 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:22,869 Cohen owes me $97 and it's up to you to see that Cohen pays 41 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:28,107 When I finished it and I decided to go out through the audience I cannot tell you 42 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:32,845 how many people grabbed me and said do you do Bar Mitzvahs? Do you do weddings? 43 00:03:32,845 --> 00:03:38,451 And I said, do you do lawyers conventions? I said, I guess I could do anything 44 00:03:38,551 --> 00:03:40,920 I didn't know what they were talking about. 45 00:03:41,921 --> 00:03:43,656 So that was the beginning. 46 00:03:45,491 --> 00:03:50,863 Gregg Dawson called John and said, why don't you two put an act together. 47 00:03:51,331 --> 00:03:55,868 So I came home from school one afternoon 48 00:03:57,003 --> 00:04:00,473 and John said Ray Dawson says that we should put an act together, 49 00:04:00,707 --> 00:04:04,310 we open next Tuesday. I said open what? 50 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:09,349 He said we are getting an engagement with the Ballroom, opens Tuesday. 51 00:04:10,049 --> 00:04:14,853 I said what are we gonna do? He said well we have to work now and put some songs together. 52 00:04:14,853 --> 00:04:19,792 What we did to prepare for this particular occasion was to go through over 53 00:04:19,792 --> 00:04:24,030 12,500 pieces of sheet music, didn't we Bert? 54 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:24,864 Yes 55 00:04:24,864 --> 00:04:27,133 And we selected our 400 favorites 56 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:29,902 So lock the doors cause you're gonna be here till next week. 57 00:04:29,902 --> 00:04:30,903 Yeah you're gonna love it. 58 00:04:30,903 --> 00:04:35,408 Now some of the titles we are not doing, you may be very curious, some of the titles 59 00:04:35,408 --> 00:04:38,945 No Man with Endurance Like the Man Who Sells Insurance 60 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:43,283 That's one of the titles we're not doing, very long isn't it, that song? 61 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:46,352 Here Comes That Memory I'll Hit it With a Stick 62 00:04:46,352 --> 00:04:51,391 If I Thought I Could Live Without You, I'd Die 63 00:04:51,391 --> 00:04:55,295 If Your Phone's Not Ringing, It's Me Calling 64 00:04:55,561 --> 00:05:00,400 You have to think about that one too. How about If It Takes Two Hours to Make Philadelphia, 65 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,435 How Long Will It Take to Make You? 66 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:11,544 Joan of Arkansas, and the other was Swing Low Sweet Harriet 67 00:05:11,678 --> 00:05:14,681 Our friend Gerald Marks gave us a song title, how about this song title. 68 00:05:14,681 --> 00:05:17,717 I Wish I Had Died At the Alter 69 00:05:17,717 --> 00:05:19,118 I like it. Do you know it? 70 00:05:19,118 --> 00:05:23,456 I don't think they believe it, I don't think people believe this. Anyway Gerald Marks. 71 00:05:24,157 --> 00:05:25,992 He wrote this on his honeymoon. 72 00:05:26,025 --> 00:05:31,698 His wife told him, you're very clever why don't you write a Hillbilly song, called country music 73 00:05:31,731 --> 00:05:33,966 So he did, they were on a boat going to Nova Scotia. 74 00:05:34,534 --> 00:05:35,702 She wouldn't speak to him for 4 days. 75 00:05:35,702 --> 00:05:38,771 She wouldn't speak to him for 4 days on their honeymoon so you can imagine 76 00:05:38,771 --> 00:05:41,474 there was not much consummation occurring. 77 00:05:42,642 --> 00:05:43,643 Calm her down 78 00:05:43,643 --> 00:05:45,345 Anyway here it is, here is the song 79 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:55,488 I only made one mistake in my life, 80 00:05:55,488 --> 00:05:59,992 That was the day I said please be my wife, 81 00:05:59,992 --> 00:06:04,130 The moment after proposed, 82 00:06:04,130 --> 00:06:08,935 I knew I should have kept my big mouth closed, 83 00:06:08,935 --> 00:06:12,472 But like a fool I made you yes, 84 00:06:13,206 --> 00:06:20,380 And got myself into this awful mess, this awful mess, 85 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:31,957 I wish I had died at the alter on the day I married you, 86 00:06:31,957 --> 00:06:40,233 On the day I married you. 87 00:06:41,167 --> 00:06:45,138 These were clubs that people all over the country had read about in the New Yorker 88 00:06:45,204 --> 00:06:52,945 and were perceived as the place to go if you wanted to get a real taste of sophisticated New Yorkers did. 89 00:06:53,980 --> 00:07:00,319 And to sit in one of these little rooms with about 4o or 5o other people and feel a connection with those people 90 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:08,294 and with a person singing songs on stage who really does to use the old cliche 91 00:07:08,327 --> 00:07:14,901 "make you feel as if they are directing it all right to you" that's a very restorative experience 92 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:22,875 and uh I have experienced that repeatedly with John Wallowitch and with Bertram Ross. 93 00:07:22,875 --> 00:07:26,813 So the critic John Wilson gave us a great review but was intrigued 94 00:07:26,813 --> 00:07:32,284 and made an appointment with us to take us to dinner and interview us 95 00:07:33,186 --> 00:07:35,822 which he did and he said well if you have known each other for so long, 96 00:07:35,822 --> 00:07:41,260 how come you never did this before? I said well I was busy going on, 97 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:46,199 dancing worldwide tours and whatnot so it just never came about. 98 00:07:46,199 --> 00:08:56,636 ♪ 99 00:08:57,570 --> 00:09:02,108 Of course he had his career outside of Graham as well, as a terrific dancer, 100 00:09:02,108 --> 00:09:05,077 but for me he is associated with Martha Graham's, 101 00:09:05,077 --> 00:09:08,581 as Martha Graham's partner for 25 years, 102 00:09:08,581 --> 00:09:12,618 so that was from the time I was born which was in the 50's through the 70's when I was in school. 103 00:09:13,686 --> 00:09:19,258 I got a hold of this friend who knew dancers at the Graham Studio, 104 00:09:19,258 --> 00:09:22,695 who knew Martha's secretary, said call him up and make an appointment 105 00:09:22,728 --> 00:09:25,565 and go down and investigate classes so you can study. 106 00:09:26,966 --> 00:09:29,335 Well I would pick up the phone and dial the number and hang up 107 00:09:29,335 --> 00:09:37,577 I could not I did not have the, I couldn't believe it. I didn't have the nerve to make, to finish the contact. 108 00:09:37,610 --> 00:09:44,917 Finally I did I went down made and appointment and I had this long meeting with Eric and I took classes, 109 00:09:44,917 --> 00:09:50,890 I took, and they were looking for a dancer for the company but I didn't know that. So I got raced through. 110 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:55,895 Bertram this, Bertram that, Bert that's very good, Bertram do this, Bertram do that, Bertram. 111 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:59,365 Someone said, do you know somebody here, why are they doing that? I had no idea. 112 00:09:59,365 --> 00:10:03,703 The next thing I knew I was pushed into the intermediate class every Wednesday night there 113 00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:08,741 was a thing called coaching class so I took that too. So I was taking three classes in a row. 114 00:10:08,741 --> 00:10:14,347 Eric asked me to come in and help him once, do something, move some clothing racks through the streets. 115 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:20,419 I said I would do it and I came to school and he planned otherwise. He said, I won't do it today, 116 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:29,395 I'll do it some other time could you come back and do it. But Martha was sitting there, reading, looking very severe, serious 117 00:10:29,395 --> 00:10:34,967 and I said yes I could come back some other time, just let me know when you needed me. 118 00:10:36,168 --> 00:10:42,241 She said, Bertram, I said yes, she said, I think you can be a dancer. 119 00:10:43,409 --> 00:10:52,018 Well I almost died. I remember running all the way home and her face lit up when she said it. 120 00:10:54,887 --> 00:11:00,326 As Martha said she saw all her men in Bertram Ross, whether the role was created for him or not. 121 00:11:00,359 --> 00:11:02,328 So he became her proto-type. 122 00:11:02,795 --> 00:11:06,399 I used to be like Martha's safety gap or something, 123 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:10,436 she'd send everybody home if we had a lot, she's save it and say, 124 00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:15,908 I'll work with Bert over the weekend, you all can have a day or weekend off, 125 00:11:15,908 --> 00:11:19,278 do what you want and she felt secure. 126 00:11:20,913 --> 00:11:24,383 And he was phenomenally important in the Graham institution 127 00:11:24,383 --> 00:11:29,155 and you know he could not only help Martha with the movement choreographically 128 00:11:29,155 --> 00:11:34,026 but help her remember her own steps, if that isn't about trust I don't know what is. 129 00:11:34,026 --> 00:11:40,032 I think the most impressive thing for me was that in Clytemnestra Bertram comes on as 130 00:11:40,032 --> 00:11:45,337 Agamemnon with grey hair plays that role magnificently dashes back stage at intermission, 131 00:11:45,337 --> 00:11:51,544 washes the grey out of his hair comes back on at Oedipus in the same production, 132 00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:55,915 and only Bertram Ross could do that and make them both characters totally believable. 133 00:11:55,915 --> 00:12:01,454 I think that Bertram also had a great influence on Martha in that piece that she didn't believe in it 134 00:12:01,454 --> 00:12:07,093 and Bertram kept saying it is one of the best you've done Martha, stay with it, keep with it, keep with it, 135 00:12:07,093 --> 00:12:10,529 and it turned out to be the greatest dance theatre piece of the century. 136 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,364 The way Martha had choreographed it, 137 00:12:12,364 --> 00:12:21,373 it was like very rich tapestry and like spectacle, then less spectacle, less spectacle, 138 00:12:21,373 --> 00:12:27,747 until finally it dealt with 4 people. The composer called it, the family deadly portrait, 139 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:33,486 in which the whole family goes against the mother and finally do kill her. 140 00:12:36,222 --> 00:12:44,363 My mother said, I have never seen such hatred in my life, and then finally it came out that, she said, 141 00:12:44,363 --> 00:12:54,640 all I could see was the two of us. She projected herself onto that stage and that's what our life had been. 142 00:12:54,640 --> 00:13:02,047 So I thought that was wonderful that she got caught up in that. 143 00:13:09,321 --> 00:13:21,133 ♪ If You Don't Love Me, I think I'll kill myself, If you don't love me, 144 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,804 ♪ Maybe I'll kill you, 145 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:39,718 I'm walking beside you, isn't this fun now I'm stalking behind you, here's my gun 146 00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:57,236 ♪ I want my way love, You know I'm spoiled a bit, You must obey love, Or I'll throw a hissy fit, 147 00:13:58,537 --> 00:14:18,858 ♪ Always remember though your still my thrill, If I can't have you, Nobody will. 148 00:14:19,558 --> 00:14:21,660 See that's what you call important music. 149 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:35,040 So I made my debut, I had worked some years with Ethel Barrymore Colt, 150 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,512 Ethel Barrymore's daughter, we toured. She was gonna go for the state department in Europe. 151 00:14:40,579 --> 00:14:47,419 I got great reviews, so what happened was when the state department offered me to go to Europe too. 152 00:14:47,419 --> 00:14:57,029 I could play my own concerts but then I had to play for her too, no skin off my back. Sixteen cities in Europe. 153 00:14:57,029 --> 00:15:05,671 Right at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. That was scary because I was sitting in the Hotel Austioissersure 154 00:15:05,671 --> 00:15:19,485 off in South Borg when, we thought the missiles were gonna drop on NY, we thought, scary. 155 00:15:20,119 --> 00:15:26,058 I always think if John as a New Yorker, through and through. 156 00:15:26,058 --> 00:15:30,529 His songs are about New York, his songs are about people in New York, things that happen in New York. 157 00:15:30,529 --> 00:15:44,310 As a composer even when he writes some funny songs, some pattern songs he always has a very strong melodic touch to it. 158 00:15:44,576 --> 00:15:50,182 And very amazing because many times you're playing on the lyrics, you're playing on the funny part of the song 159 00:15:50,182 --> 00:15:57,756 and you don't pay too much attention to the music.But the music is always important with his songs, the way he structures them. 160 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:59,325 Do you have a favorite Wallowitch song? 161 00:15:59,758 --> 00:16:01,660 There Used to Be is one of them. 162 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:02,728 There Used to Be? 163 00:16:02,728 --> 00:16:06,732 I like that. I like all of them. 164 00:16:07,333 --> 00:16:09,435 I like There Used to Be. 165 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:19,311 ♪ There Used to Be words, There used to be music, There used to be music, 166 00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:26,752 ♪ There used to be melody, Melody, There used to be song, There used to be song, 167 00:16:26,785 --> 00:16:33,692 ♪ There used to be Moonlight, Remember that old thing, Stars up above, Remember those little things, 168 00:16:34,593 --> 00:16:44,837 ♪ There used to be romance, Remember that big thing, There used to be love, There used to be friends, 169 00:16:45,804 --> 00:16:55,814 ♪ There used to be family, But everything ends, You know that's not true, you know that's not true, 170 00:16:55,814 --> 00:17:05,824 ♪ With love in our hearts we'll keep it all going, Cause baby there's me, 171 00:17:05,824 --> 00:17:10,029 ♪ Baby there's me, and baby there's you, Baby there's you, 172 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:17,869 ♪ Cause baby there's me and you. 173 00:17:19,271 --> 00:17:25,077 I met him as a songwriter when I was a publishing early in the 60's. 174 00:17:25,077 --> 00:17:34,753 And I was very attracted to his songs, though even at the time music was changing quite a lot, 175 00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:41,960 in the rock and the folk and everything he was a sort of a a coming from another world. 176 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,266 Before lessons I was maybe 6 or 7 years old, 5 maybe even. 177 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:49,068 I was playing, 178 00:17:51,303 --> 00:17:52,304 ♪ 179 00:17:54,540 --> 00:18:01,180 by ear, a song called the Isle of Capri. I was so thrilled and I called my mother, we didn't have a piano. 180 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:02,748 My grandmother had a piano. 181 00:18:03,248 --> 00:18:06,118 We didn't have a piano, so I kept begging my mother to come hear me play the piano, 182 00:18:06,151 --> 00:18:10,856 so finally she came over and I was all ready to play this, and 183 00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:13,826 I started playing, and she started talking to my grandmother 184 00:18:14,259 --> 00:18:17,763 in Lithuanian and talked and never heard a note that I played. 185 00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:19,198 I was absolutely destroyed. 186 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:26,105 But somehow I am laughing, I'm trying to laugh, I'm laughing 187 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:28,774 because if I go with the emotion that was there, 188 00:18:28,874 --> 00:18:32,644 I won't talk another word. 189 00:18:32,644 --> 00:18:34,012 Because it was so devastating. 190 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:38,851 Although she didn't, I don't think she meant that. 191 00:18:39,384 --> 00:18:46,225 Somebody, other people have said, when I tell them the story they say, oh yes she did, what kind of mother is that. 192 00:18:47,926 --> 00:18:51,163 But I also understand the kind of situation they were in. 193 00:18:51,563 --> 00:18:54,766 A little store, which my grandmother had had before. 194 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,602 I mean we are talking about a little store. 195 00:18:56,602 --> 00:19:00,939 It had one gas heater, the house we had, lived in, had a coal stove. 196 00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:05,277 one gas heater in the store period. End of story. 197 00:19:05,644 --> 00:19:10,015 I wouldn't mind singing one more song, The Runaway, the one that you wrote when you were how old? 198 00:19:10,048 --> 00:19:11,316 Thirteen. 199 00:19:11,316 --> 00:19:12,351 Thirteen. 200 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:15,154 My big hit. 201 00:19:15,354 --> 00:19:19,158 When you were 13 I think it is an incredible song for 30 202 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:22,161 That's only 14 years ago, when I was 13. 203 00:19:23,362 --> 00:19:24,530 Do you remember it? 204 00:19:24,596 --> 00:19:25,464 Yeah. 205 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:40,412 ♪ Runaway as far as your heart will go. Runaway pretend that it isn't so, 206 00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:57,196 ♪ Runaway don't let the heartache set in. Runaway don't let the teardrops begin, 207 00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:16,582 ♪ Tell yourself tomorrows another day. Tell yourself your love is along the way, 208 00:20:17,716 --> 00:20:36,001 ♪ Runaway that's all my poor heart can say. I'll runaway far away from you. 209 00:20:43,508 --> 00:20:47,312 Thirteen, God, who were you running from at 13? 210 00:20:47,312 --> 00:20:51,717 Oh, I was in love all the time, when I was a teenager, sure. 211 00:20:52,884 --> 00:20:54,019 Thirteen I mean to write that song. 212 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,486 Adele Oronio 213 00:20:54,486 --> 00:20:56,455 How do you know that when you are 13? Who? 214 00:20:56,455 --> 00:20:58,690 Adele Oronio. 215 00:20:58,690 --> 00:21:01,860 Is that a woman or a man? 216 00:21:02,761 --> 00:21:04,696 A woman of course you're sick. 217 00:21:04,696 --> 00:21:08,333 I thought you were always supposed to know from the beginning when you are gay. 218 00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:13,472 Well, when did you find out you were gay? 219 00:21:13,472 --> 00:21:14,906 Bertram's in this movie or whatever it is. 220 00:21:14,906 --> 00:21:16,108 When did you find out that you were gay? 221 00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:17,476 I haven't come out yet. I don't know. 222 00:21:17,476 --> 00:21:19,278 You will. 223 00:21:20,145 --> 00:21:22,281 I never asked about that stuff before. 224 00:21:22,314 --> 00:21:23,282 Yes you did. 225 00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,050 But Runaway. Runaway's good. 226 00:21:25,083 --> 00:21:27,286 So Runaway was about Adele. 227 00:21:27,686 --> 00:21:29,187 Not really, it was about 228 00:21:29,187 --> 00:21:33,792 That's pretty articulate for a 13 year old 229 00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:37,929 It was about, I think the lyric needed improvement myself. 230 00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:40,198 Oh I don't think so, I think it was a perfect song. 231 00:21:40,198 --> 00:21:41,199 ♪ 232 00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:54,379 I remember when I first wrote it I went up like that, which is wrong. 233 00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:55,647 Yeah. 234 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:58,317 Well maybe it's not. 235 00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:03,355 Tell yourself tomorrows another day 236 00:22:03,355 --> 00:22:07,759 How did you know to tell yourself that at 13? I never knew that. 237 00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:10,996 It might have been even a little younger then 13. 238 00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:13,832 Tell yourself your love is along the way, when your 13. 239 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,402 Since you couldn't tell anybody else who was gonna give you advice. 240 00:22:17,402 --> 00:22:21,340 Yeah but it is about convincing yourself that you are gonna be OK. 241 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:25,410 I guess that is what I did but I just didn't know how to write a song about it. 242 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:33,819 I studied piano I guess since I was five. I never wanted to be concert pianist. 243 00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:38,357 My mother was trained to be a concert pianist. 244 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:41,026 I never did hear the end of that, 245 00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:45,063 because she said she had to give up her career to take care of me. 246 00:22:45,597 --> 00:22:50,168 My mother was very competitive. She had very little patience with me. 247 00:22:50,168 --> 00:22:54,706 So that I pretended I was reading music but had already set it to memory, 248 00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:58,910 because if I ever made a mistake in front of her sometimes she would lose her temper 249 00:23:00,011 --> 00:23:03,382 and slap me and claw me and scratch me. 250 00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:06,151 I used to think certain people weren't cut out to be mothers, 251 00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:08,120 she was one of them I felt. 252 00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:12,424 But as far as my love of music was, she took me to the Philharmonic, 253 00:23:13,425 --> 00:23:18,563 she also belonged to many groups for the Brooklyn Academy of Music. 254 00:23:18,597 --> 00:23:22,234 She did believe, I must say I give her credit for that, 255 00:23:22,934 --> 00:23:29,408 that is was a mother's duty to watch and to give the if the child showed any talent in any field 256 00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:32,711 to be given the opportunity to express it and develop in it 257 00:23:34,913 --> 00:23:40,419 I can remember as a small child and saying I know why I draw, 258 00:23:40,752 --> 00:23:45,657 I said that's the one thing you don't know anything about, that's completely mine. 259 00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:53,165 So right away she got in touch with Pratt Institute, my mother enlisted me in a drawing class. 260 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,540 I was saying earlier, I used to go over to my grandmothers house and I would play, whatever I would play, 261 00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:06,478 It Looks Like Rain in Cherry Blossom Lane, that big hit. 262 00:24:07,746 --> 00:24:11,283 My grandmother said, she was a woman of few words, 263 00:24:11,516 --> 00:24:15,120 she said, "do dat". 264 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:21,293 In other words, with your life, she was saying do that, so I did have encouragement. 265 00:24:21,493 --> 00:24:27,365 I had taken lessons from the lady the Lithuanian piano teacher, her name was Francis O'Savage, 266 00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:37,042 and I thought she was very glamorous. She used to drive, ride around in a 1937 Ford V-8 or 267 00:24:37,042 --> 00:24:43,515 Ford is that V-8 or a V-8 is a juice or something. Anyway she would do that and she was very tall, 268 00:24:43,615 --> 00:24:51,490 I thought she was beautiful but actually in a way wasn't I guess, but she was my 1st piano teacher. 269 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:59,931 And I never studied until I was 11 which is late. I studied with her for some years, 270 00:24:59,931 --> 00:25:02,634 it was so painful for me to learn to read music 271 00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:06,771 I used to sit there and literally cry. But I was determined. I was determined. 272 00:25:06,805 --> 00:25:10,876 I knew that that was going to be my salvation, I guess I thought that even then. 273 00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:14,379 ♪ 274 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:36,268 ♪ Tiny World of Mine, Persian rug and old piano, 275 00:25:36,268 --> 00:25:43,575 ♪ There's a faded photograph up there upon the wall, 276 00:25:45,143 --> 00:25:53,552 ♪ Write a song a day, Hear the notes and paint the pictures, 277 00:25:53,552 --> 00:26:00,725 ♪ Put your life on paper get it down and tell it all, 278 00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:11,836 ♪ Laughter in the Spring, Heartbreak in the fall, 279 00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:21,913 ♪ Speeding past the broken pieces, Slowing to a crawl, 280 00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:33,825 ♪ Don't forget a thing, Count your loves, Count your losses, 281 00:26:34,926 --> 00:26:47,906 ♪ Everything's OK if you can say today is fine, Sure you gotta try, 282 00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:58,917 ♪ Sure your gonna cry, But for the price I've paid, 283 00:26:59,918 --> 00:27:08,793 ♪ I'd never trade this tiny world of mine 284 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:32,150 ♪ Write a song a day, Hear the notes, Paint the pictures, 285 00:27:32,183 --> 00:27:39,324 ♪ Put your life on paper, Get it down and tell it all, 286 00:27:39,357 --> 00:27:49,267 ♪ Laughter in the Spring, Heartbreak in the fall, 287 00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:59,911 ♪ Speeding past the broken pieces, Slowing to a crawl, 288 00:28:04,382 --> 00:28:12,290 ♪ Don't forget a thing, Count your loves, Count your losses, 289 00:28:12,590 --> 00:28:26,071 ♪ Everything's OK if you can say today is fine, Sure you gotta try, 290 00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:48,960 ♪ Sure your gonna cry, but for the price I paid I'd never trade this tiny world of mine. 291 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,956 Up until that time I didn't know quite what I wanted to do, 292 00:29:17,989 --> 00:29:20,558 I was gonna teach French, I thought I would teach French in High School. 293 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,298 Or I was gonna go into the decorating business because all my aptitude tests in school, 294 00:29:27,298 --> 00:29:37,542 nothing mentioned music. It mentioned everything else, painting, English, it mentioned languages, 295 00:29:39,377 --> 00:29:44,783 design, interior design, decorating things like that, all kinds of stuff like that. No music. 296 00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:50,889 But the Army, I would fight in the USO for the piano, fight, I would push people away. I became violent. 297 00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:53,224 I play better than you, get off. 298 00:29:53,224 --> 00:29:59,397 I went to Oberlin to find myself because I was interested in painting 299 00:29:59,397 --> 00:30:05,603 I was interested in theatre, the one thing I would never admit to was dancing. 300 00:30:05,603 --> 00:30:14,612 A notice came through for the war effort they were trying to recruit artists to come to Washington, 301 00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:25,423 I had no idea what that would mean. But I thought being patriotic and I went to Washington. 302 00:30:25,423 --> 00:30:29,260 Well I had a very sensitive interviewer, he said, what do you want to do? 303 00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:35,533 I said I'd like to offer my knowledge, my painting knowledge for camouflage. 304 00:30:36,201 --> 00:30:40,071 He said on no no no, they don't do anything in camouflage. 305 00:30:40,071 --> 00:30:45,877 There is no designing, you have a certain amount of things, it is mainly ditch digging 306 00:30:45,877 --> 00:30:54,853 and putting up tents and flat things with those different designs on. He says that is not what you want. 307 00:30:54,853 --> 00:31:00,425 So I went into, oh I got into map reproduction, and I took the course and 308 00:31:00,425 --> 00:31:05,630 I never worked so hard in my life. Finally I got overseas. 309 00:31:07,665 --> 00:31:10,869 I was in the Army for 18 months, in the infantry; 310 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:14,205 you know the infantry was never the same since I've been in it. I'll tell you. 311 00:31:14,205 --> 00:31:20,245 Going into the Army was a blessing in a curious way, it got me out of South Philly for once 312 00:31:20,245 --> 00:31:24,983 and I met all these other people, and all kinds I mean all kinds of people. 313 00:31:24,983 --> 00:31:29,654 I mean some insane guy named Rick and I forget his last name, who had just come back from the, 314 00:31:29,654 --> 00:31:34,192 wearing wedgie shoes, and bleached blonde hair and plucked eyebrows. 315 00:31:34,192 --> 00:31:42,433 This is a mast---- sergeant right. He said yes I did everybody in Patton's Army, 316 00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:54,178 I mean you know what are we talking about, weird, I met everybody and I was really thrown into this, into this melange. 317 00:31:54,479 --> 00:32:02,053 That experience was so enormous that I came back from this other whole big world out there to little South Philly, 318 00:32:02,053 --> 00:32:06,057 and my mom and dad who had worked so hard all their lives, this little store. 319 00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:11,930 God, I can't even tell you how much I love those people. 320 00:32:13,031 --> 00:32:17,402 But how much I am sure I hurt them because children do, you grow up and you have to leave 321 00:32:17,402 --> 00:32:20,939 and that hurts them, and you fight too. There was a lot of stuff going on. 322 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:26,277 But they - salt of the earth, great. 323 00:32:27,845 --> 00:32:32,750 The architecture was so fanciful in these German cities and little towns, 324 00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:37,956 they would have these sweet little houses that looked like gingerbread houses and roses, 325 00:32:38,156 --> 00:32:44,362 I am just trying to put down what it looks like, not what it feels like. 326 00:32:45,363 --> 00:32:47,966 I did a WAAC review 327 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:52,971 and I choreographed it and of course people said, oh you are very talented 328 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:58,743 you should continue your dancing when you get out of the Army. I finished I wouldn't discuss it. 329 00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:06,985 And I wrote when I was in the Army to my sister-in-law June, and I said when I get back I'm gonna become a dancer. 330 00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:15,393 Absolutely no memory of that when I came home. Forgot that I ever wrote that and it didn't come up until analysis. 331 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:24,068 I found out that that is what I wanted but I was really blocked on it. I went back to the Art Students League 332 00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:35,346 and began studying painting again and the Graham company opened in NY and I stood online to get tickets 333 00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:44,455 and I get to the box office and they only had $3 that was very expensive for Broadway, $3.60 334 00:33:44,455 --> 00:33:52,830 and I get there the only seats they had left I have no right to spend that money, why I'll never know, 335 00:33:53,931 --> 00:34:04,375 I started tormenting myself and finally I would go. Later in analysis I learned that that was important to me, 336 00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:08,478 that was like food, so you give up something else, you don't give up what you really love doing. 337 00:34:08,478 --> 00:34:13,051 When I came back from the Army, I said I wanted to try out for Olga Samarov. 338 00:34:13,117 --> 00:34:18,656 Olga Samarov was the divorced wife of Leopold Stokowski and she taught piano. 339 00:34:18,755 --> 00:34:26,464 Olga Samarov was actually born in Oklahoma and her real name was Elsie Hickenlooper. 340 00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:35,106 Now she invented herself, she invented herself and people would take these 341 00:34:35,106 --> 00:34:38,376 Russian names because nobody would take an American pianist seriously. 342 00:34:38,376 --> 00:34:41,913 You are not gonna go hear a concert of Chopin by Elsie Hickenlooper. 343 00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:43,748 Nobody is gonna walk across the street. 344 00:34:46,684 --> 00:34:53,958 Hello my name is Elsie Hickenlooper, but you hear 345 00:34:55,927 --> 00:35:00,765 Hello my name is Olga Samorov, it's a whole different thing isn't it. 346 00:35:01,132 --> 00:35:05,236 I tried out a Julliard the next year cause I had gained my courage and 347 00:35:05,236 --> 00:35:11,342 I had studied with, well I had, my technique was really very good, I had a natural technique, 348 00:35:11,342 --> 00:35:19,851 which had evolved naturally, I mean from my body, I didn't have any kinks, any kinks in my technique anything, 349 00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:26,357 there was nothing I wouldn't be afraid of anything. The curious thing is that Julliard knocked it out of me. 350 00:35:26,357 --> 00:35:35,867 I studied with Lonny Epstein and secured my scholarship, secured a scholarship to Julliard,which I held for the next 7 years. 351 00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:40,705 I studied with her for 4 years and I thought that she had totally destroyed me by that time. 352 00:35:40,705 --> 00:35:45,443 So I was now suicidal after five years at Julliard all over again. 353 00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:49,614 I thought I would then switch teachers again because I didn't know any better. 354 00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:57,021 I had heard from Vincent Jones back at Temple University about a woman named Abby Whiteside in New York City. 355 00:35:57,021 --> 00:36:01,325 But I thought well she's not main stream and she's not Julliard, 356 00:36:01,392 --> 00:36:03,728 Julliard is a big name, that's what attracts you, you know. 357 00:36:03,728 --> 00:36:08,866 They offered me a position at Julliard to be a teacher, like a fellowship thing, 358 00:36:10,368 --> 00:36:13,171 I was no more prepared to be a teacher, what would I teach? 359 00:36:13,271 --> 00:36:19,844 I was in pain, physical pain now which when I was a kid I never had any of that, before I came to the big school. 360 00:36:20,077 --> 00:36:25,016 Besides aging rapidly, my hair falling out in every single drain in New York, 361 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:32,123 clogging the drains of New York City. And being depressed as hell. 362 00:36:32,123 --> 00:36:33,724 Nothing, they weren't teaching me anything, 363 00:36:33,758 --> 00:36:44,202 they were not teaching me how to play the piano.So I finally after 8 years, gave up the ghost and rather than commit suicide 364 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:46,804 I searched out Abby Whiteside the lady Abby Whiteside. 365 00:36:47,872 --> 00:36:53,044 She changed my life in 5 lessons, after all those years, got me back. 366 00:36:53,144 --> 00:36:58,316 I still have to everyday have to I think we all do in whatever our crafts are, you have to. 367 00:36:58,983 --> 00:37:03,988 There were a lot of bad habits at one time that you were into. You have to be aware, you have to conscious, 368 00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:10,861 I have to be conscious that I am, that every, that my gesture, that my original gesture 369 00:37:10,861 --> 00:37:16,734 my approach to the piano is pelvic, it's got to be from that place. 370 00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:21,239 You cannot, it is not gonna come from here or from here or from the feet or whatever. 371 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:30,915 It's got to be from your center. Which is where all art comes from. I mean that is what it's about. 372 00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:42,560 So my approach to piano, I don't always think of it but, it has to come, all the big muscles in the back take it not the little babies. 373 00:37:43,127 --> 00:37:45,263 I have to think of it constantly still. 374 00:37:46,697 --> 00:37:50,001 I used to sit around with the company and listen to the company talk 375 00:37:50,001 --> 00:37:55,473 and hear stories about that Martha would never say to somebody you're out and fire them. 376 00:37:55,773 --> 00:38:02,179 What she would do is call somebody else in to learn your part at night with somebody else teaching you 377 00:38:02,179 --> 00:38:08,819 and then you would come to rehearsal and dance behind this person and they would be rehearsing 378 00:38:08,819 --> 00:38:14,058 and suddenly realize that there was a person behind them doing the same part 379 00:38:14,058 --> 00:38:20,331 and they would get so nervous they would quit and then Martha didn't have to face firing them. 380 00:38:20,331 --> 00:38:25,636 Martha asked me one night if I wanted to go into the company. 381 00:38:25,636 --> 00:38:33,311 She said, now Dale Senet is in analysis and his analyst feels they are very close to getting someplace with him 382 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:45,690 and this is not the time for him to go off on tour, so would you fill in for him.I said, being very shy, she must have just loved that. 383 00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:53,798 I said, ummhumm, that would be nice. She said you don't have to join the company if you don't want to. 384 00:38:53,798 --> 00:39:00,371 I said oh no that would be very nice. I can't imagine I said that but it was that scene, 385 00:39:00,371 --> 00:39:09,013 and she said I could think about it because Dale had to find a replacement so he could continue his analysis. 386 00:39:10,581 --> 00:39:17,355 So I came in and she said, Bob Cohan will teach you the part and I used to meet him at night 387 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:23,561 and we would go upstairs and study and he'd show me the dance and rehearse. 388 00:39:23,561 --> 00:39:31,736 Finally Martha said I think you are ready now to come into rehearsal, and I was mocking the dance in the corner behind Dale, 389 00:39:31,736 --> 00:39:35,773 just like they said she did. But I never thought since she made a such a convincing story 390 00:39:35,773 --> 00:39:44,715 and she said Bertram would you take Dale's part now and let Dale stand out and you go into this scene. 391 00:39:44,715 --> 00:39:49,086 So I did it and she said that was fine, this that and the other thing. Then I never saw him again 392 00:39:49,086 --> 00:39:55,393 and I went off on tour and then I was performing at Connecticut College, they have the summer course there. 393 00:39:55,393 --> 00:40:01,927 Martha was up there teaching and I shared a room with Dale Senet. Dale and I sat up chatting 394 00:40:01,927 --> 00:40:06,925 and reminiscing and he finally said, I was so hurt, he said, 395 00:40:06,925 --> 00:40:11,494 I had not a clue that Martha was displeased with my performing, my dancing. 396 00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:20,418 She never let on, then you came in and began doing. I said but you had analysis, he said, I never went in to analysis. 397 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:26,257 He just called me about a month ago. He said I read in a magazine or something where I mentioned that story about, 398 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:29,593 he said you are the only one who ever told the truth about that. 399 00:40:32,763 --> 00:41:26,951 ♪ 400 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,056 But I was a great admirer of the Martha Graham Company and of course I, 401 00:41:32,056 --> 00:41:37,561 Bertram Ross was one of the people. But I thought they were all so great, so tremendous. 402 00:41:37,561 --> 00:41:46,003 My friend, Neal Currer, we went backstage to meet Martha and Neal said,ooooh he said, she is weird, 403 00:41:46,003 --> 00:41:52,710 she is a weird woman. She was trying to be very folksy. She had this big piece of Noguchi sculpture 404 00:41:52,710 --> 00:42:00,217 which was from the Oedipus thing Night Journey and Bertram had played Oedipus we had just seen the performance that night. 405 00:42:00,217 --> 00:42:08,058 I was a great admirer of Bertram Ross, he's like a God way up there, completely unapproachable, you never saw him anywhere. 406 00:42:08,058 --> 00:42:12,663 Martha but Martha was the hostess after these concerts and she was saying, 407 00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:21,205 Oh yes, this Noguchi it reminds me of a piece of Swiss cheese, she was being adorable, a piece of granite, 408 00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:26,143 you know very folksy, I'll give her folksy. 409 00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:32,783 Anyway the curious thing was that I was a fan, I wasn't vociferous, 410 00:42:32,783 --> 00:42:39,757 I didn't pursue it constantly because I was music was my interest and I was playing a lot of clubs and stuff like that. 411 00:42:39,757 --> 00:42:46,297 Doors were opening for me, I was in analysis, had been in analysis and I made my debut, 412 00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:53,671 I confronted my Minotaur you know. Is that what you confront, I think that is what you confront is a Minotaur. 413 00:42:53,671 --> 00:43:06,383 I went to a record store and there was this strange record cover, first of all this was an eye catcher, this is John Wallowitch 414 00:43:07,418 --> 00:43:14,858 I was intrigued with that so I bought it then there was another one which was called this is the other side of John Wallowitch. 415 00:43:14,858 --> 00:43:22,600 So I made an album and Andy Warhol had done the covers you know for these to two albums, 416 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:28,839 first two piano albums and Bert Ross had picked them up and then he played them and he liked them 417 00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:36,614 So I called my friend Mary Hinkson who was also back from the tour, soaking in a tub for her muscles, 418 00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:43,287 and I said did you ever hear of John Wallowitch, she said no, who is he, 419 00:43:43,287 --> 00:43:47,791 I said he is a pianist I just bought these records and I'll play you one, 420 00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:51,662 So I put it on and she said play me another one, 421 00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:56,166 another song and she said they are like tone poems. 422 00:43:56,367 --> 00:44:00,904 Bert tells a story about how he played them for Mary Hinkson over the phone 423 00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:05,309 and they were like tone poems, you see I've heard these stories you know. 424 00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:14,852 And then the 3rd person I asked was my cousins' wife, my cousin Ross's wife if she knew. 425 00:44:14,852 --> 00:44:21,191 He talked to Maxine Hann and she said I've been trying to get you two together for yearsor something to that effect, and Maxine I adored. 426 00:44:21,191 --> 00:44:27,731 Do you know him, have you heard, she said, yes I had dinner with him last night, would you like to meet him and I said yes. 427 00:44:28,365 --> 00:44:36,940 He came to the Barbara Harris the Golden Apple Award something that Q magazine did. 428 00:44:36,940 --> 00:44:41,512 They got me a very good seat and during intermission I was introduced to him. 429 00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:45,816 I met Bertram and I said to Bertram, 430 00:44:49,753 --> 00:44:53,824 something to the effect, what are you doing these days and he said, 431 00:44:53,857 --> 00:45:01,732 well I'm working with Martha, oh Martha Ray I thought, you're working with Martha Ray, 432 00:45:01,732 --> 00:45:06,770 I thought you know they don't make much money with the Graham company, so he probably goes out to Vegas and does the, 433 00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:16,017 here this glorious epic figure working with Martha Ray but who knew. 434 00:45:16,017 --> 00:45:21,780 So he was oh no, Martha Graham, I know you're with Martha Graham, that I know, my God I've been, 435 00:45:23,412 --> 00:45:27,725 And he had bought these albums of mine he was crazy about the albums it was interesting. 436 00:45:27,725 --> 00:45:32,963 We went to Ross and Maxine's that night and we were talking and we left there and we said 437 00:45:32,963 --> 00:45:40,270 we would call each other and I didn't think anything of it. I thought nothing of it, and Tony and I were writing all these songs 438 00:45:40,270 --> 00:45:46,577 and all these songs about yearning for romance and I had given up on the whole thing, it was all over a thing of the past. 439 00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:53,617 And I was content, I thought well I now gonna get a pot belly, I 'm gonna get up in the morning I'll teach some piano lessons 440 00:45:53,617 --> 00:46:00,457 and then I'll play my Bach, I'll get the coffee going play a little Bach and become portly and venerable. 441 00:46:00,457 --> 00:46:11,201 I felt very apathetic to Bertram. Because I felt the vast loneliness, we were talking about being abused by people. 442 00:46:11,201 --> 00:46:16,640 And I guess I called him, I suppose I better call him I'm feeling guilty I better call him. 443 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:24,181 And that was I can't believe it over 30 years ago. 444 00:46:24,181 --> 00:46:34,224 And we were a, very happy with each other and decided to move in together and 445 00:46:34,224 --> 00:46:39,596 he went away to London and that's when this song was written, Tony and I were working on 446 00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:46,036 ♪ Thank the Lord I'm here at last, Now I've found London town, 447 00:46:46,170 --> 00:46:50,374 ♪ Never thought I'd live to see the city on the Thames, 448 00:46:50,374 --> 00:46:56,046 Where's that sky of gray, 449 00:46:56,046 --> 00:47:05,055 ♪ Where's that foggy day, The Gershwin's had their say but now I'm here to tell you, 450 00:47:05,055 --> 00:47:18,168 ♪ My love went to London, and left me behind, I'm going to London and I'll find him, 451 00:47:20,037 --> 00:47:34,184 ♪ Piccadilly Circus may be where I'll meet him, Oh I'll rush right up to him, lovingly I'll greet him. 452 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,422 So. 453 00:47:40,624 --> 00:47:47,464 I had to leave shortly after we met, I don't know how shortly, to go to London to perform 454 00:47:54,171 --> 00:47:58,108 and John wrote a song while I was gone called My Love Went to London. 455 00:47:58,775 --> 00:48:05,682 I had never had a song written for me so that was an experience. 456 00:48:06,683 --> 00:48:15,125 Tony Bennett just recorded it, how many years later? About 30 years later it was this new song. 457 00:48:16,793 --> 00:48:27,905 ♪ They all said we'd never would be happy, They laughed at us and how, But ho ho ho who's got the last laugh now, 458 00:48:28,272 --> 00:48:39,249 ♪ Nothing's impossible I have found but when my chin is on the ground, I pick myself up dust myself off start all over again, 459 00:48:39,283 --> 00:48:50,427 ♪ I can see the sun on high though we're caught in the storm, I can see where you and I could be cozy and warm, 460 00:48:50,427 --> 00:49:00,370 ♪ Let the rain pitter patter cause it really doesn't matter when the skies are grey, Long as I can be with you it's a lovely day, 461 00:49:00,370 --> 00:49:06,510 ♪ I'm putting all my eggs in one basket I'm betting everything I've got on you, 462 00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:15,886 ♪ You say tomatoes and I say tomatoes you say potatoes and I say potatoes, tomatoes tomatoes potatoes potatoes 463 00:49:15,886 --> 00:49:22,292 ♪ let's call the whole thing off let's call the whole thing off 464 00:49:28,532 --> 00:49:36,006 ♪ The glamour, the romance, the service, No need to be nervous Oprah darling at all, 465 00:49:36,006 --> 00:49:44,414 ♪ Cause we're having a fabulous ball, There's no train can compare to the show train, 466 00:49:44,915 --> 00:49:57,728 ♪ This gently a glow train, This dream that's come true, The train is a dream made just for you. 467 00:49:59,863 --> 00:50:03,166 This is a career, I'll tell you I've done a million things, I've played a million places 468 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:11,808 and loved almost every minute of it and shall continue to do so. 469 00:50:12,409 --> 00:50:20,183 Martha used to say and say it a lot in class, I love Bertram but I'm not in love with Bertram, something like that 470 00:50:20,183 --> 00:50:28,091 even if I hated him we have to get through something on stage I mean you can't allow that to stand in the way 471 00:50:28,091 --> 00:50:40,704 you have to overcome that. She used to say things to me like, when you learn to hate me, I said why should I hate you? 472 00:50:40,737 --> 00:50:52,516 She said you'll see. I know when the big blow-up came and I finally left, I forget who was interviewing me, 473 00:50:52,516 --> 00:51:02,059 somebody from either Time magazine, they said you sound like a jilted lover. I said well I guess it was like that. 474 00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:10,567 I think it is so poignant the way he ends his own chapter in my book, saying you must know this is the saddest day of my life 475 00:51:10,567 --> 00:51:12,836 when he resigned from Graham in '73. 476 00:51:12,836 --> 00:51:19,109 When Bertram resigned from Martha Graham horrible moment, horrible, horrible, 477 00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:25,115 painful and we have not recouped from it still because it is so painful. 478 00:51:25,115 --> 00:51:31,855 But it was like those moments if you're in analysis but it's like you kick in something you know 479 00:51:31,855 --> 00:51:37,627 that something is a kind a revelation and it's right you just feel 480 00:51:37,627 --> 00:51:44,901 I remember when you decided to do it, you knew it was right but it was like cutting off your leg 481 00:51:44,901 --> 00:51:48,480 There are so many joyous things that people have idealism, 482 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,899 you know I just thought Bertram should have stayed but that was my thing, 483 00:51:52,109 --> 00:51:58,582 I didn't tell him that at the time because I couldn't do it, he was too caught up with it, but what am I doing, 484 00:51:58,582 --> 00:52:00,750 I'm sitting her crinkling 485 00:52:00,884 --> 00:52:09,559 The practical thing is to have stayed, the practical thing was to have stayed but Bert couldn't stay against his 486 00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:11,728 Principals 487 00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:20,170 I didn't think he would say yes and I said Bertram would you like to come and teach at my studio and he said yes and he's been here ever since. 488 00:52:20,170 --> 00:52:30,947 Alright and go, one two three, two two three, three two three four, the accent and one and two 489 00:52:30,947 --> 00:52:45,795 and three four balance, shift through the waist, three four reach five six rotate seven and then around eight 490 00:52:45,795 --> 00:52:49,599 and then drag one, two and shift three 491 00:52:50,901 --> 00:52:57,207 Bertram wondered because he was a choreographer whether he had made a mistake by spending all that time 492 00:52:57,207 --> 00:53:04,047 with Martha Graham and I feel that he was destined to do that. That her works would not have been what they were 493 00:53:04,047 --> 00:53:09,419 if Bertram hadn't been there at her right hand always making, and he still is a choreographer 494 00:53:09,419 --> 00:53:14,191 and he's done a wonderful piece for my company called Nature Dancing which again is very very witty 495 00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:19,629 and I intend to revive it, but he is a choreographer and a painter and a musician 496 00:53:19,629 --> 00:53:24,601 and a writer you name it he is a Renaissance man. 497 00:53:24,601 --> 00:53:31,675 I think we are ready, it is actually a great honor and it's a great pleasure 498 00:53:31,675 --> 00:53:39,683 cause you know that for two years you have been hearing about the famous man, and so it gives me great pleasure 499 00:53:39,749 --> 00:53:42,686 to introduce Mr. Bertram Ross. 500 00:54:02,372 --> 00:54:14,417 Thank you, will you be seated please. One hip three four seesung seesung bella seesung seesung 501 00:54:14,417 --> 00:54:19,055 He is a great artist and someone who represents something that I love very much 502 00:54:19,055 --> 00:54:26,796 the Graham technique in it's finest, in it's most dignified classic beautiful way and it's very important 503 00:54:26,796 --> 00:54:34,271 that he be known to the world of dance because he is so special and so truthful 504 00:54:36,072 --> 00:54:37,540 To the hip. 505 00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:58,228 keep in in progression, right, let the elbow come up, hip hip 506 00:55:00,697 --> 00:55:06,336 and travel as fast as you can low to the ground 507 00:55:09,172 --> 00:55:11,341 Rectangular. Oh oh sorry. 508 00:55:12,375 --> 00:55:19,949 Since we stopped, see there is a thing of letting, like dropping the personality 509 00:55:20,283 --> 00:55:23,987 the performing personality for a moment just to make a point so you 510 00:55:24,888 --> 00:55:35,332 Yes the circle shape is quite renowned, sad to say it can be found in a dirty lowdown, 511 00:55:35,332 --> 00:55:37,467 you know what I mean? Just for that moment. 512 00:55:39,402 --> 00:55:40,403 Try it. 513 00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:41,538 Ok I did it a little bit 514 00:55:41,671 --> 00:55:42,505 But I want to hear it 515 00:55:42,505 --> 00:55:44,507 You want a lot 516 00:55:44,541 --> 00:55:49,245 You were thinking it, I want to hear it, I don't want you to just only think it. I want to hear it a little bit. 517 00:55:49,913 --> 00:55:52,682 A trickle of red 518 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:58,221 No it is not a big AHHH see 519 00:56:00,223 --> 00:56:01,291 Just a little item 520 00:56:01,725 --> 00:56:03,426 A trickle of red 521 00:56:04,461 --> 00:56:06,129 That is stretched of course 522 00:56:06,129 --> 00:56:08,131 That is stretched like the 1st one? 523 00:56:14,371 --> 00:56:16,373 A trickle of 524 00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:18,274 But AH is short 525 00:56:18,541 --> 00:56:29,652 You're alone going nowhere, first you rise then you fall, 526 00:56:31,421 --> 00:56:53,276 but certain dreams come true my life is always new, for it's filled with you after all 527 00:56:58,782 --> 00:56:59,883 I don't mind that 528 00:56:59,883 --> 00:57:00,850 I love that song 529 00:57:00,850 --> 00:57:05,155 I don't mind that, singing great, I love the way you sing darlin' you are singing better than ever 530 00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:24,841 A little closer than we are (if that's possible) Just a closer than we were before 531 00:57:32,382 --> 00:57:37,954 John undoubtedly deserves more stature than he has in a commercial sense 532 00:57:37,954 --> 00:57:48,131 because we don't have any other people writing the way he does in a style that Cole Porter 533 00:57:48,598 --> 00:57:52,368 and Noel Coward and their colleagues from a time past wrote in 534 00:57:54,537 --> 00:58:00,043 It's amazing that I haven't been successful, no no no but I mean, 535 00:58:00,176 --> 00:58:04,514 I should have had a Broadway show years ago, simply because of that but 536 00:58:04,814 --> 00:58:08,284 then I foolishly made my concert debut so they got all confused about me 537 00:58:17,327 --> 00:58:32,375 ♪ It takes a life to realize what life is all about and life is all about this moment, 538 00:58:35,178 --> 00:58:41,117 ♪ I'm here with you before we're through what secret will we tell, 539 00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:50,960 ♪ I learned to know you well this moment, 540 00:58:51,895 --> 00:58:55,098 ♪ How soon to soon the hours fly, 541 00:58:55,398 --> 00:59:05,208 ♪ I hear the clock go ticking by, I won't pretend that time has been my friend. 542 00:59:08,244 --> 00:59:19,455 ♪ I bring my song to sing my song, For you until the end and as I live my days, 543 00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:32,735 ♪ I count the wondrous ways, That brought me here to praise this moment, 544 00:59:34,370 --> 00:59:48,585 ♪ How soon too soon the hours fly. I see my life go rushing by, I only hope that time will be your friend, 545 00:59:52,488 --> 01:00:03,733 ♪ We live a life to give a life with love oh don't you see, So if you'll agree, 546 01:00:04,834 --> 01:00:18,181 ♪ Then come along with me, I only guarantee this moment 547 01:00:19,482 --> 01:00:26,155 I find that the songs have a very strong sentimental pull. And when I knew him, 548 01:00:26,422 --> 01:00:33,663 when first I knew him, he was much more bitter about what was not happening to his career as a song writer, 549 01:00:34,030 --> 01:00:39,235 I can understand it, because the music business is a very tough business and it can be very cruel, 550 01:00:39,669 --> 01:00:48,211 especially to someone who is not willing to change, also cannot change really, wants to be what it is. 551 01:00:48,444 --> 01:00:49,646 Did you ever do it like that before? 552 01:00:49,979 --> 01:00:57,487 Never did it like that. You have to, why do you like it that way? It's better than... 553 01:01:01,658 --> 01:01:02,659 ♪ 554 01:01:18,274 --> 01:01:26,749 With John and Bertram we used to go many years to sing in front of Irving Berlin's house 555 01:01:27,050 --> 01:01:35,491 on Christmas Eve which was really wonderful. That is something, his love for Irving Berlin and for his music, 556 01:01:35,591 --> 01:01:41,531 but it represents more than just a love for one composer. It is the love affair with the whole world of music. 557 01:01:42,231 --> 01:01:50,073 When I was a little boy I made my professional debut playing the piano on the Lithuanian Furniture Company radio hour. 558 01:01:52,742 --> 01:01:58,247 I played an Irving Berlin song, a song called So Help Me. Well that 1st Christmas Eve in 1967 559 01:01:58,281 --> 01:02:05,722 I was walking Bravo the weimaraner around the neighborhood and I stopped in front of Irving Berlin's door at 6 O'clock 560 01:02:05,722 --> 01:02:14,397 and intoned, inwardly White Christmas and I'll be Loving You Always, I started crying because I was just in awe 561 01:02:14,397 --> 01:02:19,635 that I was there and that I had moved into the Beekman Place area, I mean I couldn't believe it from South Philly to there you know. 562 01:02:19,802 --> 01:02:30,379 So I did that for 15 years, not every night, every Christmas Eve. Every Christmas Eve 6 O'clock I would to this dark old house. 563 01:02:30,513 --> 01:02:36,886 In 1982 I met Steve Elmore on the street, wonderful actor singer, and I asked what he was doing in the neighborhood, 564 01:02:36,886 --> 01:02:39,522 he said I was looking at Irving Berlin's house. So I said Steve, 565 01:02:39,522 --> 01:02:44,694 I told him about my experience of this inward private thing, private moment I was doing. 566 01:02:44,894 --> 01:02:51,801 He said gee that's great, can I join you? But eventually I relented, then he said 567 01:02:51,901 --> 01:02:57,006 OK John since you are gonna let me come and sing, can we sing out loud instead of inwardly. 568 01:02:57,507 --> 01:03:04,647 I also said yes and then we asked Bertram Ross and he said yes, and Mary Jane Miracle and Bob Dagny. 569 01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:09,452 We went around that Christmas Eve we sang I'll Be Loving You Always and White Christmas and burst into tears and left. 570 01:03:09,552 --> 01:03:14,724 It comes with the territory. Well word got out and next year there were 17 people that wanted to do this. 571 01:03:14,857 --> 01:03:19,896 So what better excuse as you know in Manhattan for a cocktail party. Well the place was in good shape, 572 01:03:20,062 --> 01:03:25,468 the apartment was in good shape, we had some good crystal in those days, before it all disappeared, 573 01:03:25,635 --> 01:03:32,675 and but you know how it is you're breaking glasses in the fireplace. The important thing was that it was 4-degree temperature that day, 574 01:03:32,842 --> 01:03:37,680 4-degrees with the wind whipping off the East River. Well 17 people came we rehearsed those two songs 575 01:03:38,915 --> 01:03:45,087 and then at 5 minutes to 6 we were there and I was about I was ready to ring the doorbell when 576 01:03:45,087 --> 01:03:50,493 Fiddle Veracola who happens to be here tonight. Fiddle Veracola said... 577 01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:53,062 Actually you weren't gonna ring the doorbell. 578 01:03:53,062 --> 01:03:56,632 Did I rush off, what did I do, what did I skip? 579 01:03:56,666 --> 01:03:58,734 Aren't you going to ring the doorbell is what she said. 580 01:03:58,768 --> 01:04:00,503 I was about to ring the doorbell... 581 01:04:00,503 --> 01:04:03,573 No you didn't want to ring the doorbell that is the whole point of it. 582 01:04:03,573 --> 01:04:11,647 Oh that's right, I got it mixed up. I did not want to ring the doorbell, that's it, that is the 1st time I made that mistake. 583 01:04:12,014 --> 01:04:14,016 Well you see there it is. 584 01:04:15,117 --> 01:04:18,888 And I was reluctant. Fiddle Veracola said to me... 585 01:04:18,921 --> 01:04:22,391 Aren't you gonna ring the doorbell? 586 01:04:22,725 --> 01:04:27,430 Didn't you Fiddle? And I said why would I ring the doorbell? 587 01:04:27,496 --> 01:04:31,133 And she said, because he very well might want to hear what we are doing 588 01:04:31,267 --> 01:04:35,504 and he may be looking at television and he won't even know we are out here, she said. 589 01:04:35,771 --> 01:04:40,076 Well I never thought, she did say that. I never thought that Irving Berlin was there in the 1st place, 590 01:04:40,076 --> 01:04:44,380 this dark old house and here it is 4-degrees, he would be up in the Catskills with his family 591 01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:52,388 in front of a roaring fireplace at the age of 96, or in Bermuda, you know in the Bahamas somewhere enjoying himself. 592 01:04:52,555 --> 01:04:55,992 He had a couple of bucks, I knew that. 593 01:04:58,261 --> 01:05:03,065 Well I was overcome by you know that giant emotion called fear, 594 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,171 of the ringing the doorbell, my friends didn't want me to do it but I did it, I eventually did it. 595 01:05:09,404 --> 01:05:13,542 The door was flung open, the housekeeper said what can I do for you? 596 01:05:13,876 --> 01:05:18,047 And I said we are here to serenade Mr. Berlin on Christmas Eve. 597 01:05:18,047 --> 01:05:20,950 She said isn't that nice I'll go right upstairs and tell him. 598 01:05:22,852 --> 01:05:26,088 Well we didn't expect that, didn't expect that 599 01:05:26,322 --> 01:05:30,493 this was well we were agog, we started singing White Christmas, 600 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:32,395 there are several people here tonight who were there, 601 01:05:32,395 --> 01:05:36,499 Pat Nemser, Jacqueline Parker, and we are singing White Christmas 602 01:05:36,499 --> 01:05:37,400 Tears in our eyes 603 01:05:37,433 --> 01:05:38,467 And tears streaming, a lump 604 01:05:39,368 --> 01:05:45,207 Frogs in the throat, gagging, fortunately we all didn't gag at the same time. 605 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:50,880 And all the lights in this 5-story mansion were starting to come up, symbolism was rife, 606 01:05:51,747 --> 01:05:56,819 like the lighting of a giant Christmas Tree to me and Bertram pointed out on the 3rd floor that 607 01:05:56,819 --> 01:06:02,124 the shade was being drawn mysteriously, well we were thrilled, and we sang I'll Be Loving You Always 608 01:06:02,124 --> 01:06:05,928 which was written for as you know Ellen Mackay and then I thought the program was a little short 609 01:06:05,962 --> 01:06:11,701 so we repeated White Christmas and then we were going around Beekman Place. 610 01:06:12,468 --> 01:06:15,237 It was like a scene out of a movie cause just as we were turning the corner 611 01:06:15,471 --> 01:06:18,341 the door opened up and she waved something and she said 612 01:06:18,341 --> 01:06:21,711 come back, come back, so we ran back to his house 613 01:06:21,711 --> 01:06:24,981 And she said Mr. Berlin would to thank you, and I said we would like to thank Mr. Berlin 614 01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:29,885 for all the beauty that he brought into this world and for us especially 615 01:06:29,952 --> 01:06:33,990 and she said I don't mean that he wanted to come out on the sidewalk tonight to thank you 616 01:06:34,123 --> 01:06:37,660 but you know its 4 degrees, as if we didn't know. 617 01:06:39,195 --> 01:06:40,463 So in we went 618 01:06:40,563 --> 01:06:45,234 No so she said he would like you to come inside he will greet you personally in the house. So. 619 01:06:45,401 --> 01:06:54,377 In we went there he was in the kitchen in pajamas, slippers, bathrobe, 620 01:06:54,410 --> 01:06:58,681 bright bright eyes and he said, 621 01:06:59,081 --> 01:07:02,051 This is the nicest Christmas present I ever got. 622 01:07:04,387 --> 01:07:12,595 Bertram Ross is, Bertram Ross is let me just say it, I'll have to say it, 623 01:07:12,595 --> 01:07:19,001 he is my life, he's my life that is it, he is my life... 624 01:07:19,902 --> 01:07:25,574 My music is my life too but I mean, but he is an incredible human being, he just 625 01:07:26,375 --> 01:07:33,949 how he put up with Martha and elevated her and revered her and brought 626 01:07:34,083 --> 01:07:44,527 and worked with her and gave her all of that and did all of that, out of the sheer love of doing the art, 627 01:07:45,261 --> 01:07:48,998 without thinking about oh is my name gonna be there, am I getting this much money? 628 01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:53,736 Without thinking of that at all, I mean it is too otherworldly for me I'll tell you. 629 01:07:54,170 --> 01:07:57,306 When we did this in the Paiz in the Park in London 630 01:07:57,306 --> 01:08:00,543 Bertram invented a choreography for the 2nd of part of this. 631 01:08:00,876 --> 01:08:07,383 This is Irving Berlin's jungle song. Second part of this song and by the next morning London was agog. 632 01:08:07,516 --> 01:08:14,657 Rumor has it that the Queen Mother was seen on the lawn of Windsor Castle executing the steps 633 01:08:14,723 --> 01:08:21,163 that you will see Bertram do in the opening of the 2nd chorus of this wonderful jungle song by Irving Berlin, 634 01:08:21,229 --> 01:08:30,872 the year 1925 from the Coco Nuts. This song is so so politically incorrect that it was banned 635 01:08:30,872 --> 01:08:36,946 from the recent revival of the Coco Nuts, so there. 636 01:08:48,057 --> 01:08:57,832 Monkeys upon a tree never are very blue, they never seem to be under par that is true, 637 01:08:58,434 --> 01:09:09,944 Not like the ones you see on a bar in the zoo, Monkey's upon a tree do the monkey doodle doo, 638 01:09:10,679 --> 01:09:13,716 Oh oh oh oh among the mangos, 639 01:09:14,649 --> 01:09:17,051 Where the monkey gang goes, 640 01:09:17,386 --> 01:09:22,224 You can see them do, you can see them do, the little monkey doodle doo. 641 01:09:23,993 --> 01:09:33,335 Oh oh oh the little monkey playing on his one key gives them all the cue, Gives them all the cue, 642 01:09:33,702 --> 01:09:36,438 To do the monkey doodle doo, 643 01:09:37,238 --> 01:09:43,546 Let me take you by the hand, Over to the jungle band, I am the jungle band, 644 01:09:43,746 --> 01:09:51,953 If you're too old for dancing, Get yourself a monkey gland and then let's go, Oh then let's go, 645 01:09:52,121 --> 01:10:01,463 A little dearie there's the Darwin's Theory telling me and you, telling me and you, to do the monkey doodle doo. 646 01:10:14,376 --> 01:10:22,518 Do the monkey doodle doo, To do the monkey doodle doo, do do ta do. 647 01:10:26,255 --> 01:10:35,331 We met way beyond the time when people usually meet but I would love us to be, you know nubile and 27 648 01:10:35,864 --> 01:10:45,641 and racing across like two young zephyrs or stallions whatever those things are that race across things, 649 01:10:45,641 --> 01:10:58,587 Unicorns, beach and all that part of it, that would be nice, but that's another lifetime coming up somewhere, but this this will do. 650 01:11:00,389 --> 01:11:02,891 OK Bertie I guess we did it huh? 651 01:11:02,891 --> 01:11:06,228 I guess so. It's just the beginning. 652 01:11:07,529 --> 01:11:11,734 Only the beginning. I say I'm only beginning. 653 01:11:13,434 --> 01:11:14,903 If I can remember. 654 01:11:19,508 --> 01:11:29,985 You are my toad, I am your frog, Aren't you happy we met on this log, 655 01:11:30,653 --> 01:11:34,089 And we've been friends forever, 656 01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:46,769 Hiding from owls and hopping in heather, You are my toad I am your frog, 657 01:11:47,068 --> 01:11:51,440 You shine the silverware, I'll find the Spode, 658 01:11:51,874 --> 01:12:04,019 And we'll celebrate Christmas while we're trimming the tree, Toad, Frog and me, 659 01:12:04,019 --> 01:12:06,755 You have really think it's terrible isn't it. 660 01:12:07,756 --> 01:12:16,699 You are my frog I am your toad, Remember last winter it finally snowed, 661 01:12:17,866 --> 01:12:29,311 And Christmas was white and stormy, My friend the frog built a fire to warm me, 662 01:12:30,913 --> 01:12:35,718 I got the flu, I had a pain, 663 01:12:36,018 --> 01:12:44,893 I bought some (no you didn't you ordered, oh I ordered), I ordered some bubbly sparkling champagne, 664 01:12:45,494 --> 01:13:10,486 And by New Years Eve happily our health simply glowed, Frog and Toad, Frog and Toad. 665 01:13:15,324 --> 01:13:17,192 Take it again from the top. 666 01:13:18,827 --> 01:13:19,862 Boychik 667 01:13:20,596 --> 01:13:23,198 Boychik, then you have have to do this. 668 01:13:23,565 --> 01:13:26,869 I'm not doing that it hurts. 669 01:13:29,238 --> 01:15:04,233 ♪ 670 01:15:55,918 --> 01:16:02,324 It's never to late to become what you might have been, 671 01:16:02,357 --> 01:16:08,130 Don't trust how you feel, you can still grab that wheel and give it another spin, 672 01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:15,170 You are never too old to make up your mind to make a brand new start, 673 01:16:15,637 --> 01:16:22,611 Never too weak to forcefully speak to a world that seems to be falling apart, 674 01:16:25,314 --> 01:16:31,920 You gotta erase that old frown from your face if you can't get a lift, 675 01:16:31,987 --> 01:16:38,059 Your doctor will wipe all your sorrows away so you don't look constantly miffed, 676 01:16:38,493 --> 01:16:44,967 And once in while break out in a smile and watch your joy begin, 677 01:16:45,033 --> 01:16:51,974 Cause if it don't rise up to the challenge of life that's your ultimate sin, 678 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:58,513 And it's never too late to become, You'll be making the Universe hum, 679 01:16:58,747 --> 01:17:04,119 Oh it's never too late to become what you might have been. 71671

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